The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification.
What it DOESN'T mean
This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight.
How is this calculated
( INT^1.3 + (STR*0.5 )^2 + (SPE*0.5)^2 + DUR^1.6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1.8 ) ^ TIER
Super Power Score and Level
Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation.
Speed : travel to iron man, combat and reaction to batman
Durability and AP : Batman (better feats in both)
IQ, BIQ : Batman (350+ > 180) and biq is obvious
combat, skill, exp : batman and no need to explain
tech and gadgets : tech is same and gadgets to batman (yellow lanter ring, helmet of fate and some more artifacts in batcave)
vehicles : obvious, iron man doesnt have any vehicles
cosmo and scaling : cosmo is both (Both marvel and dc scale immesurable layers into boundless) and scaling to batman
WINNER : Batman could literally oneshot, his AP is on multiversal lvl
Batman may have a higher IQ but its not by a lot.
They are not equal in tech at all. While Batman makes advanced tech all the time they pale compared to what IM achieves on a daily basis. Also those gadgets you mentioned, Batman doesn't have them anymore. Even if he did, this is base Batman. And again even if he did allow Batman access to that why not do the same for IM and let him use his Galactus Buster armour.
Lol why was vehicles even a stat you included.
What even is AP?
The fact that you said Batman one shots was the craziest part of it all.
@Dante Batgod has 350+ IQ and also this version uses lantern ring not base one.
Now your trying to say Batman is as fast as the speedforce. Erm what! Please tell me your joking.
Like I said this is base Batman. If you want to include all those things then lets give IM his best armour too. Actually you have to be skilled in order to beat people also skilled. IM beat CA.
Even in reflexes Batman isn't anywhere close. Only Superman can compete and even he struggles.
Batman can only defeat him in hand-to-hand combat when Iron Man is unarmoured.
If Tony wears the armour he will easily beat Batman (his gadgets are highly overrated.
Batman has the Batmobile
Tony has the Phoenix Buster
Prep: Iron Man
Unlike Batman, however, Iron Man could fly, shoot laser beams from his arc reactor and his hands, and push super heavy objects that he can’t without the armor. Does Iron Man need the gadgets that Batman uses in order to defeat his opponents? Nope. Also, Iron Man has beaten people over Batman’s level before which would also give him an advantage over him. Let’s say Iron Man found a way to quickly blast Batman or flew him to the air, dropped him, shot him with a missile, bringing Batman to the ground, and then ground pounded him with all his strength? Wouldn’t that be a way Iron Man could win? I think so
Cuz of their feats, it would be sensible to admit that the fight can go either way. Both combatants have advantages that the other lacks. Anyone who knows both characters well would agree that this can either be in Iron Man’s favor or it can be in Batman’s favor (unless they’re diehard Iron Man/Batman fans that think there’s no chance that the preferred superhero would lose)
Like I said if both had prep. Batman's going to win because Iron Man's intoxicated problem will reduce intelligence and that's what alcohol does. It makes you impulsive. I'm a 21 year old and you don't want to know what happens when you drink it.
No he would be taken down immediately by any of the justice league members..iron Man just has the tech also smart but Batman has all that too plus he's one tough fighter...and willpower.batman wins and it may be a close fight it all depends
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Yes they would make a good fight but ironman would just come out on top without prep.
what do you think?
Debate me, let's finish this this is only some of my knowledge on Iron Man and Batman
You think Spidey can beat Batman, and Tony is well above Peter, so how does Bruce beat him?
Spider-man does the same but Spider-man is a person with super powers while Iron man isn't. The Spider-sense, strength, and durability is what lets him win that fight but Iron has none of that except only his suit. Without Iron man's suit he's nothing except his intelligence.
So trust me Batman will have enough time to pull out his tech against Iron Man and he'd win the fight over KO because he has a no-kill rule.
The suit already have countermeasures for almost any type of attacks so Batman can't do absolutely nothing to Tony, even whit prep, he could simple scan batman and his gear and then proceeds to one shot him.
Lol it is a bad argument, Batman also is some freaking human whitout enhancement, at least Tony have access to Extremis Virus any time he want. But here is completely standard gear, no prep, and Batman standard gear are Batrangs, gas, and a lot of stuff that wouldn't do literally nothing to Iron Man.
Plus EMP wouldn't work on Iron Man, since his classic days he have countermeasures for that type of attacks. EMP him and is going to do absolutely nothing. His cave armour is enough to one shot him.
Once again you don't need prep to call in your tech. If it was Batman v Captain America or Spider-man he wouldn't need to call in his tech because they're not using any tech as well. But here is Iron Man using high tech. Without a doubt Batman is going to get his tech. Batman isn't stupid bro.
Why do I think Batman will win over his technology? It's because when Iron Man had prep he lost to Hulk, Thor and even more. But with Batman he can defeat Superman while holding back, also defeats the Flash and Darkseid as well with his preparation.
"And calls for his tech" and what his tech is going to do? Huh? He have something against the kinds like iron man?
Tony whit prep has do a lot more impressive stuff, he created a device that removes all powers in a short time, it even depowered the Sentry and would work on Thor as well. Iron Man has also some Anti Gamma gun that worked just perfectly fine on the immortal Hulk so what is that about "he lost to the Hulk"? He have a lots of countermeasures pal.
Wanna hear something funny? Thor, Hulk and Sentry have NO WEAKNESSES, and he defeated them. Superman have some super obvious weakness called KRIPTONITE that anyone can use to defeat or kill Superman, so how the hell is that impressive? I would love to see Batman defeating some Herald Tier whitout exploring some weaknesses, have any scan?
He never defeated Flash, and the Babel Tower comic is full of PIS, he never defeated Darkseid by his own, if you're talking about that time he "killed" Uxas whit some special Bullet, he no made that bullet.
Want me to continue?
It doesn't really matter how hard Iron Man tries to hurt him with his basic attacks. They won't do crap to Batman. He has better pain tolerance than Iron man. It'd be down to who can beat the other tech. And I believe that would lead to the fight to the Hellbat vs Iron with the Endoysm armor.
Why are you bringing Batman prep again lol? And that time where he defeated half of the justice league is full of PIS.
That Batman on your scan was on drugs lol, also how is impressive? Joker knives are strong as Iron Man punches? NO.
"It doesn't really matter how hard Iron Man tries to hurt him with his basic attacks. They won't do crap to Batman"
WHIT this message, you literally prove you know nothing of Iron Man dude, sorry for say it. But want to know what actually Iron Man basic attacks can do? Only whit the shockwaves of his punches he destroyed a mountain and after the mountain fell on him, but he was just fine, whit his basic attacks he consistently hurts Thor, or Hulk tier beings, his unibeams are way hotter than the sun and not in full power.
@Savage what do you think?
Batman can easily dodge a punch from Iron Man. He's evaded Nightwing where almost every attack from him he evaded. Here's proof https://imgur.com/gallery/L0ZoX6F
Nightwing is a better fighter than Iron Man and Batman is superior to both. So I don't know if Iron Man is going to even land a hit on him.
He fights people like that all the time? Lmao sorry but that's an big lie right there, he can't keep up whit characters like WW or GL, lol, unless is PIS involved. How in the hell he could fight WW or GL whitout prep, standard gear? Lol.
I mean if you're trolling just admit it, i won't get mad.
There other comments are irrelevant and i won't answer
He's also taken a hit from Wonder Woman as well. I'm not saying he can fight people who can destroy mountains. I'm saying he can keep going if he gets hit by it. Iron Man wouldn't try to kill Batman right away dude. Iron Man isn't a villain killing people.
I didn't say Iron Man would kill Batman, i just showed you the massive difference of power between those two.
I mean it'd still be hard for Iron Man to land a hit on Batman. Green Lantern was lucky to make that strike even though he can destroy mountains as well.
I think not
Tony Stark 100/100 curbstomps easy
Nope Batman is very smart he created the brother eye, also very good at investigating and an excellent strategist. I am not saying he is smarter than Iron man but his intelligence matches Iron mans overall.
It is called weight advantage
I am Team Iron Boi all da way
Iron Man Is Dead
Batman Is Alive.
And Batman has defeated much better opponents.
I've never disliked a comment more in my life.
So, you were saying?
ill show you the link. Stop comparing this Iron man to the movies.
This link is the movie version. Just highlight it and go to it.
Iron Man with Prep: Split the Phoenix into 5 parts when Thor could only land a hit on the Phoenix
Ironman easily beat batman with out preparation time and with preparation time winner is ironman and I have reason
Prep time: Batman
Bruce has suits (Outsider, Batwing, Beyond, Justice Buster, Hellbat, & Final Batsuit [which is more powerful than any suit Tony has] ) comparable to Tony’s, he just hardly uses them...and he probably wouldn’t even need them if he had prep time. Tony has a higher IQ and has a more advanced understanding of engineering and certain sciences, but Bruce is a better strategist and is an expert in more fields
With prep time: Iron Man
With prep time: Close but will still pick iron man
But, this is a random encounter, so Batman would not have time to devise a plan and strategy to beat down Iron Man and his highly durable armor. Iron Man wins this one
Even combat IM will win because his attacks are far stronger and more durable.
Without prep time iron man
Iron Man's strength is much greater than Batman.
Iron Man is much faster than Batman:
Iron Man is much more durable than Batman.
Iron Man is smarter than Batman.
Iron Man is richer than Batman.
Iron Man has more weapons capable of mass destruction than Batman.
Iron Man Has N-Tech, which changes in length, size, and Even Durability, Iron man has shown the ability to alter his armer into weapons. Batman mainly uses only gadgets.
Iron Man and Batman actually could have equal tactician, Batman made as suite strong enough to Fend of Superman, Like Iron man Did Hulk. Although if i remember correctly, (i could be wrong on this) Superman was still able to tear through Batmans suit. Hulk could not smash Iron mans suit. Both sides, took imense intellegence, and stradegy, To make this suite ahead a time.
Also I would say Iron Man is not as good as hand to hand combat as Batman is, so if they were out of suite, it would probably be Batman.
as for Speed, this varys on the suit of each character.
Over all intellegence, Tony is smarter than Bruce, Bruce owns his own company, but is he the one actually working in it? or does he have scientists? Tony created his own tech.
Batmans Automotives, like the batmobile, are ran by a computer, which Cyborg was able to Hack in seconds, Iron Mans suit can do similar things,
Plus iron man has been to other galaxies, and can fly in space, batman cant, Flash had to save him.
so with all this i'd say Iron man wins,
Iron Man is physically stronger than Batman.
Iron Man is much faster than Batman.
Iron Man is much more durable than Batman.
Iron Man is a lot faster than Batman.
Both of them are around equal in intelligence but Stark is slightly smarter I believe.
Batman is a better fighter but that won't matter because Iron Man can copy anyone's fighting style.
If a case arises where they have to go against each other(which would be exciting), Batman would already be prepared to take on Iron Man and would keep his weapons ready. But that preparation level wouldn't be enough to take him down because Tony keeps upgrading his suits. Some people mentioned that Bruce Wayne could "hack" into Tony's servers but that is highly improbable because J.A.R.V.I.S is always up and alert. It keeps improving the safety as it keeps learning.
When they actually face each other, Tony will be unarmed(not particularly skilled in martial arts without his suit of armor) while Bruce Wayne could easily defeat him. But Tony would not stay unarmed for long enough as he would summon his suit and almost instantly, he would have an edge.
Bruce, with his deception and stealth can manage to escape for a small duration. He will call upon the Batwing or Batmobile. Meanwhile J.A.R.V.I.S would hack into Wayne's computer and track Batman(assuming Batwing and Batmobile know where Batman is to come to him).
But if there's prep time, Batman has one important advantage - Iron Man's identity is public knowledge. Batman could immediately follow Tony Stark to find weaknesses and opportunities, while Tony would need to spend good time to figure out who Batman is. IMHO, Batman has the edge here.
Batman Held his Own Against Darkseid and Justice League, Batman's outsmarted Lex Luthor and EVEN Darkseid
Iron Man cannot do that
However, thanks for pointing this out, and I will try to sound less critical in the future.
Really? Your only argument is getting Iron Man out of his suit? What argument is that when it doesn't work? Magnetism? Same deal. BlotskyA here has pointed out Batman is more skilled and says that Iron Man is a bad prepper, which couldn't be farther from the truth. Even if Batman is more skilled, nothing he has can get past Iron Man's armor before he gets blasted.
You Batman fans need to look past his victories that are tainted with plot armor into realizing he isn't invincible, and no matter what excuse you make for him beating this person and that and that he can do this, we all know who really wins here.
(By the way, the winner is Iron Man, in a stomp.)
Iron Man wins 8/10.
With prep time for both, he wins 6/10
With a LOT of prep time for both, Batman wins 6/10.
(Tony could make a Batman buster though. Or search about his powers and stuff online on google/bing/Yahoo!)
a few missiles.
That's a link to show how loaded Batman really must be. Batman, we can all agree, is more skilled in combat techniques than iron man. Iron man is good, but not Batman good. Now the question is, how to even the odds. Simple, Batman uses an EMP. Now look, iron man has been hit with EMPs before, just look at him when he fought the winter soldier. But a Batman 2 billion dollar EMP? Iron man has made his basic armor quick and easy to get into, that's his downfall. You said this is a no prep time battle? That means both of them are in basic suits. If there is prep time, well we already know Batman's gonna win. Even if the B Man disables iron man's armor for 5 seconds, that'll be enough to do SOMETHING, whether it be tearing tony out of his armor, using his jet to shoot him while he's down, or anything else, really. Plus Batman can always dodge whatever iron man is throwing at him long enough to wait for Alfred to deliver him some package that would beat iron man.