SupermanvsThor

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364 wins (51.3%)
Superman (Kal-El) 28
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345 wins (48.7%)
Thor (Thor Odinson) 30
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Kanine88
Superman vs Thor
Thor Thor gets the Power Stone, Supes gets the Ring of Hope.
Who gets it?
DeanDinosaur6
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Thor wins. it is a close fight, but he wins. Superman is a little stronger and faster. Thor is very fast. He caught up to Silver Surfer (who in my opinion is faster than Superman). Thor is so much better at combat and is much more experienced than Kal-El. Thor is a little more durable. He can God Blast him or just put the hammer on Superman.
Kanine88
Superman vs Thor
Thor Thor drops his hammer on Supes foot, and slaps the **** outta him. πŸ˜‚
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Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman sups is worthy u do know that right?
AkhilPDX
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor @Bane333
1. The crossover isn't canon.
2. Odin got rid of the enchantment then.
3. Superman is a worthy hero, but not the same worthy that is required to lift Mjolnir. He isn't a warrior and he doesn't rush into battle with the thought of killing at the back of his head. It only appears when he absolutely needs to.
Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman Ofc crossovers aren't cannon, I just realized I used it in that comment oops 😬
Us
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman is much stronger in terms of pure strength. Thor does have lightning, but it won't even hurt Supes.
To
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Thor's lightning is not magical people, he uses magic to summon the lightning but the lightning itself is more physical, thus, it is a tickle for MoS.

Durability= maybe thor is a little more durable but under a yellow sun superman is much more durable

Strength= Superman outclasses Thor in punching and lifting strength

Speed= I guess I don't have to speak about this ( Bifrost is different than speed, ut is used to move between realms or planets or galaxies, it is not counted as battle speed) superman can react in an attosecond and think faster, thor is slower than wolverine

Intelligence= Isn't clearly the field of thor, he has a hammer he uses it, that's it he doesn't think. Unlike superman who is very strategical and due to his powers he can analyze and come up with a new plan to defeat his foes

The only chance for thor here is to use superman's non killing rule against him which superman can ignore it if he gets mad enough due to killing someone he loves or if he feels there isn't other way to save the people.

Thor would be long gone in a fee seconds if supes lets go
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DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted Thor can casually cross universes in a very short amount of time
He is much faster than Wolvie
Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman Actually sups is more durable, I ain't saying Thor is weak just saying sups is more durable, sups is better in every attribute except power and combat.
AkhilPDX
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor @Bane333 Nope. Thor and Superman are equal in durability and strength. If anything, Thor is more durable and stronger. You also forgot that Thor has more versatility. Why are you underestimating the Odinson like this? So annoying.
Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman @akhilpxd this is post-crisis sups right?
AkhilPDX
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Yes.
Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman Well cbr.com admited that post-crisis sups is still a touch stronger.
Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman A touch stronger Thor.
Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman You guys should read it. It came out a day ago, it says who would really win in a fight Superman or Thor. I couldn't find the verdict.
Bane333
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman is stronger in lifting strength, sups can lift at maximum strain 4 to 5 times the earths weight, Thor on the other hand can lift at maximum strain 1 to 1 and a half times the earths weight while hulk is around half the weight of the earth to maybe 1 maybe.
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DeanDinosaur6
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor No, Thor has lifted the weight of 20 planets with one arm.
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Compare that to Superman Lifting the Earth without a sweat.
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted @Jakcj The Thor feat is just as good or even better considering he was using one arm
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marvel5 13 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman Darkwing
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Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor Care to explain why you mentioned my name?
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor Care to explain why you mentioned my name?
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor A: that's an outlier
B: Thor was holding back
C: Wolverine has tagged Speed Demon and contented with The Hulk on multiple occasions.
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Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor Can someone delete that comment?
Jakcj
Jakcj 21 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Holding back but while talking he got hit by Wolverine a lot.
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor Why wouldn't Thor be suppressing himself against a mortal? When Logan finally hit him, Thor just used a bit of lightning and beat Logan.
Jakcj
Jakcj 21 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Even though he beat him of course he would. Thor wouldn't even see Superman coming if he has bad combat reaction time. So we can assume that Thor would be defeated because Superman is way too fast for Thor to handle.
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor What are you talking about? "Thor having bad combat speed" Thor has beaten Silver Surfer, knocked out the Phoenix Force which travels at the speed of thought, tagged Quicksilver who can outrun a radio wave, and can dodge attacks from celestials. None of those sound like bad reaction feats to me.
Jakcj
Jakcj 21 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman I'm getting tiring of people saying he defeated Silver Surfer. I'm assuming that if Thor defeated the Silver Surfer he must have not used his combat he must have used his physical magicial Thunder whatever. I'm talking about combat where it's like hand to hand.
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor Thor beat him and physical combat, you obviously have not read that comic. I'll give you this youtu.be/FiSIutHBB-0. a video from one of my favorite YouTubers.
Jakcj
Jakcj 21 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman There's also a part where he didn't see Captain America's Shield coming.
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor A: that's another outlier
B: he wasn't expecting it.
Jakcj
Jakcj 21 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman "expecting" Get my point?
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor Get what point?
Jakcj
Jakcj 21 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Good Debate @Dark_Wing I win.
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor I ask you a question, I'm not done debating.
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor Other than admitting that captain America shield feat was an outlier, how else do you explain Thor keeping up with Silver Surfer and dodging attacks from celestials?
Jakcj
Jakcj 24 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Superman wins this isn't Thor from Avengers Endgame. This is a different Thor, Superman can beat this Thor. Thor has bad combat reaction time. Plus Superman can dodge his Godblast
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Jakcj
Jakcj 24 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman This isn't* I can't speak today.
LordTracer
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Thor has kept up with The Silver Surfer, how the hell does he have bad combat speed...
jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor This Thor beats endgame thor
Jakcj
Jakcj 21 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Search Thor V Wolverine and then you'll know what I mean't
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor A: that's an outlier
B: Thor was holding back
C: Wolverine has tagged Speed Demon and contented with The Hulk on multiple occasions.
Brendanpatterson911
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman is more intelligent, strength, speed, durability, power. Combat same. Superman can also lift Thor's hammer look at the Dc Marvel crossover comic Superman vs Thor. Thor can't tap into the Odinforce
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DeanDinosaur6
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Thor is WAY better at combat than superman and a little more durable, Thor said that odin made superman worthy, and Thor can use the god blast, use the elements of the Earth, or just put the hammer on him. Also, Thor is really fast, he has caught up to Quicksilver and Silver surfer before, superman is a little stronger and faster though.
Co
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman will defeat Thor without much effort and I don't even want to talk about the most powerful version of Superman. Rune King Thor will be nothing in front of cosmic armor superman.
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DeanDinosaur6
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor How can Kal beat him in a minute.
Kluba577
Kluba577 28 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman easily
ea
Superman vs Thor
Thor one of superman's greatest weaknesses is magic and what can thor do he does magic
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Jakcj
Jakcj 28 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Superman has speed. Thor's combat reaction time is slow. Superman could dodge some of his magic attacks
windshadow
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Thor is no means slow. He's kept up with Silver Surfer everytime they've fought, and has come out on top.
windshadow
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Also his reaction times are enough to dodge Silver Surfer, catch Hermes, and keep up with Makkari.
ea
Superman vs Thor
Thor one of superman's greatest weaknesses is magic and what can thor do he does magic
MuhammetJericho
Superman vs Thor
Superman I like Thor but he is not the one shooting laser beams from his eyes
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_Holy_Joe_
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor That won't be necessary.
ti
Superman vs Thor
Superman it depends in which universe this battle takes place in MCU superman destroys thor because there is no kryptonite in MCU therefore he is invincible. in DCEU thor can get his hands on kryptonite and win. only Superman has the willpower anyways.
ti
Superman vs Thor
Superman it depends in which universe this battle takes place in MCU superman destroys thor because there is no kryptonite in MCU therefore he is invincible. in DCEU thor can get his hands on kryptonite and win. only Superman has the willpower anyways.
Sb
Sbahhs 39 d
Superman vs Thor
not voted @lord tracer compare Superman speed with silver surfer speed is laughable since superman has shown infinity and instant speed many times
Jakcj
Jakcj 50 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Superman wins this. Thor can't even move as fast as Superman can. Superman can easily dodge almost all his attacks
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Jakcj
Jakcj 39 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman I forgot to say this, did you know Thor is slower than the Wolverine?
EmptyHand
Superman vs Thor
Superman Dam
LordTracer
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Did you know that's horribly incorrect and Thor has kept up in combat with the likes of The Silver Surfer?
Jakcj
Jakcj 39 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Actually their was a poll and it was correct that Thor was slower than Wolverine in combat if you want to be specific.
LordTracer
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor A poll is not factual, therefore it is irrelevant. Thor is not slower than Wolverine.
Jakcj
Jakcj 39 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Sure with speed like traveling when your walking and running Thor wins. But i'm talking about combat speed reaction time Thor is not faster than Wolverine dodging bullets.
Sb
Sbahhs 39 d
Superman vs Thor
not voted @lordtracer you are biased as **** don't talk about a character you don't know superman was able to achieve infinity speed and if you were able to travel that well you are able tO react the things coming to you at infinity speed and reaction speed is part of combat speed again you have been downplaying Superman the guy have destroyed universes just with simple punches and pass through infinity realities through soulfire Darkseid who is omniversal through Emperor joker a character that was with mxy powers who is able to put a ******* multiverse in his hands and through the phantom stranger that was stated being impossible to do that and also I am not even using his durability that has his best feats so shut up and don't talk about a character you don't know
Jakcj
Jakcj 39 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Why tf are you starting to cuss?
Sb
Sbahhs 39 d
Superman vs Thor
not voted @jack because I hate superman downplay and that guy clearly doesn't know about him
Jakcj
Jakcj 39 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman He didn't say anything about superman downplay in this comment section. So that doesn't make any sense for why you should be cussing.
Sb
Sbahhs 39 d
Superman vs Thor
not voted @jack he said ss > superman in speed also you are downplaying Superman and doesn't even know
Jakcj
Jakcj 39 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Well okay if that's what you think. I voted for superman and i'm downplaying it. Nice talk with you kiddo
DeanDinosaur6
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Thor is very underrated in speed. He has caught up to Quicksilver and Silver Surfer. Thor can probably manipulate elements of the Earth or God Blast Kal.
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jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor
1 the crossovers are not canon
2 this is not thor mcu
Marvel500
Superman vs Thor
Thor I agree @jongesoden on the comics Thor and mjolnir are MFTL+
So
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman can move more than the speed of light and mjolnir can move roughly at 770 miles per hour. So even if stormbreaker is sound speed, Thor can't defeat Thor in power and in JLA/Avengers crossover Superman defeated Thor easily. See:


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_Holy_Joe_
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor What part of "non-canon" do you just not get?
Dr
Superman vs Thor
Superman Some people said Thor is equal or stronger than Superman..I highly doubt that.although he's extremely powerful and strong Superman speed, durability and strength are on a whole different level .. Superman pretty much is so fast he can travel thru time and he can tow planets together and prettying mu ch fky directly into the sun and not even get a tan.
jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Superman may be omnipotent but so is mjolnir
Kluba577
Kluba577 76 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman Idk. Maybe Kal. I don't like both of them and i would like to see both them die
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman I have underestimated Thor before, and I respect him a lot more than I did, but I just don't see a way past Superman's speed, durability, and strength. As much as I like Stormbreaker Thor from the MCU, I still have to go with Superman.
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jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor this is regular thor
_Holy_Joe_
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Dude, you're still underestimating him.
AndreasVer
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Superman has a known vulnerability in magic, so even if he outclasses Thor in everything, he loses in a solo fight. Just the same with Wonder Woman almost beating him in fights, even if not only Supes, but also Thor, outclass her in everything. But I admit Thor could never beat Thanos, but Supes can.
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Da
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman can't beat Thanos.
Bane333
Bane333 84 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman Sups is smarter, faster, stronger, and more durable, Thor has better power, and combat,
Over all sups wins.
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jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor they are equal in strength power and durability
EmptyHand
Superman vs Thor
Superman No Superman is stronger
Bane333
Bane333 84 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman Sups wins,
(Medium fight)
ca
Superman vs Thor
Thor hold on,Thor has beaten silver surfer multiple times and silver surfer is stronger than superman.
aw
awsome 89 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor now supermans my favorite superhero but thor with that new axe from infinity war will probrably destroy superman
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jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor mjolnir is stronger then that weak axe
ti
Superman vs Thor
Superman it doesn't matter he is still invincible without kryptonite, it would only tickle him
Co
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman maybe your favorite character but you now know if you think that nerfed version of Thor in the MCU can defeat Superman. Superman will win this battle in less than a minute even if we're being generous to Thor.
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EmptyHand
Superman vs Thor
Superman **** fandom, **** all wikis
soratoumiga
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Intelligence - Superman
Strength - Roughly equal
Speed - Superman
Durability - Superman
Power - Thor
Combat - Thor
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Keep in mind I'm only counting Post-Crisis version of Superman, which would beat Thor 7-7.5/10 times, if I used Pre-Crisis, it would be a total stomp in Superman's favour, where not even Odin would be able to help him much.
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EmptyHand
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman is stronger then thor
Dark_Wing
Superman vs Thor
Thor I disagree

Intelligence - Thor (way older)

Speed - Superman all the way

Strength - I don't know really

Durability- Thor (survived a beating from three celestial)

Power -Thor

Combat- Thor
Bane333
Bane333 92 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman (Agreed), that's sound about right except,
Sups is stronger than Thor
By Like 3 times,
Sups max strength is
4 times the mass of the earth,
So he can lift 4 earths max,
I believe Thor wouldn't even get 1 earth,
Thor could probably get 75% of the earth lifted but not a full 100%.
jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor thor already destroyed earth
Bane333
Bane333 92 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman (Ps) I was replying to @soratoumiga
jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor thor is omnipotent
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EmptyHand
Superman vs Thor
Superman Nope
jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor except mjolnir is
EmptyHand
Superman vs Thor
Superman Nope
EmptyHand
Superman vs Thor
Superman Nope
Bane333
Bane333 100 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman @marspectorquoran wrong Superman is stronger in raw strength and more durable and faster
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Dr
Superman vs Thor
Superman I agree 100%,Superman can move close to speed of light and Thor won't see him coming also Superman's durability and strength way surpasses Thor's,even Thor is crazy strong and durable but not on Superman levels.. sorry Superman takes this in 30seconds
jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor superman maybe smarter
but they are almost equal in strength asgardians are stronger then kryptonians
superman maybe faster but not much faster
they are ALMOST equal in durability and power there is just i a bit more durable and powerfull
in combat thor easily stomps
overall this will be a hard battle wich thor wins and will not take 30 seconds
thor fought 4 days whitout giving up
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 92 d
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Thor can also fight at light-speed. Smh.
MarkSpectorQuoran
Superman vs Thor
Thor Superman is faster, Thor is marginally stronger and more durable, and a much better combatant. But none of that matters because Thor can drain radiation. Solar radiation. Which means he can depower good old supes. Of course even without depowering I still think Thor would win.
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LuciferTheSaint
Superman vs Thor
Superman @MarkSpectorQuoran you said thor is stronger, could you explain your reasoning?
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted Modern Superman - Thor
New 52 - Thor
Post-Crisis - Thor
Pre-Crisis - Superman
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LuciferTheSaint
Superman vs Thor
Superman current superman stomps thor lmao.
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted Rebirth? How?
BayonettaFan
Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman because i hate this ugly blond gender princess
Na
Nanotech 149 d
Superman vs Thor
not voted Thor will beat superman with the Storm breaker
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Ma
Superman vs Thor
not voted Then why haven't you voted!!!
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jongensoden
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor nope
St
Superman vs Thor
Superman Magic isn't a weakness of Superman. He's just vulnerable to it. Much like a plethora of other characters. Their strength is about even, but Superman is quicker, and faster. I'm taking Superman 6/10 times.
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Marvel500
Marvel500 161 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor Thor has superspeed too. And Thor can make superman vulnerable with magic. His lightning bolts will be able to strike superman down and if he put magic in it that could harm superman a bit. Then he can just put Mjolnir on his chest keeping Superman their. Now he can't do anything and Thor can take him out.
Da
Superman vs Thor
Superman I highly doubt that Thor is fast enough to do that to Superman. It's not like he's going to be standing still.
Marvel500
Marvel500 162 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor Thor has magic which is one of superman's weaknesses. Also he has Mjolnir which superman can't lift so if thor can get superman down to the ground all he has to do is put Mjolnir on his chest and then he won't be able to get up.
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted With Mjolnir - Thor stomps
Without Mjolnir - Superman barely wins
Da
Darklord 182 d
Superman vs Thor
Superman it's a really hard fight. Thor is super strong but superman can withstand his shots
Ri
Rizzo 189 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor A casual throw from Thor hurt Galactus. Imagine what that would do to Superman
Dr
Superman vs Thor
Superman Although Thor is one of the strongest superheroes he cannot beat Superman, Superman can pretty much take on ironman, captain America,hulk and Thor at once..he is just too powerful..I'm a huge hulk fan too more than Superman but he's too much for them
Brendanpatterson911
Superman vs Thor
Superman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTGk-pgTnw Superman has more super Strength, more durable, way more powerful, more intelligence, and he can just go near the sun to get stronger.
TeamEmerald
Superman vs Thor
Superman Oh dear. Either way, I'm going to upset 50 people...
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Bbq444
Bbq444 204 d
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Vote Superman.
TeamEmerald
Superman vs Thor
Superman Need feats for that though. All I know of now is that Superman is faster than Thor, but they are equals in strength and durability. Thor has the combat, experience, and versatility advantage.
TeamEmerald
Superman vs Thor
Superman Ok- @ManofPower's feats made me vote for Thor.
TeamEmerald
Superman vs Thor
Superman *Superman. Not Thor.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 215 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor I may seem biased here because thor is my favorite character but Superman is faster and stronger Thor is a better fighter has better armor and last time i checked Superman was weak to magic that if why thor has a 51 percent chance of winning in my opinion
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 215 d
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Thor has sat in the Core of a Sun without NO discomfort, so it is safe to say that he can handle twice the amount of heat. Plus, while Superman might win in front of a star, Thor will see how he gets stronger as he has divine wisdom, and BFR him to another dimension using Mjolnir. There, they can fight. Plus, Thor's lightning is tens of thousands of times deadlier than regular lightning, plus it is magical in nature, which can harm Superman. Plus, Thor has the God-Blast which can harm a weakened Galactus, so it can harm Superman. Superman is faster than Thor: That is true, but Thor has fought Silver Surfer, Hyperion, and even the Void, which are all close to Superman in speed. In fact, SS is faster than Supes, and Thor has held his own, so he won't lose because of speed. Superman cannot lift Mjolnir in canon because he is not willing to kill to gain an honorable victory in battle or war, so he is not worthy.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 219 d
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor It's kind of late, so this will be the last reply for today- However, this isn't Superman Prime One Million, and Base Thor has enough versatility to put down Superman. He can use his lightning to strike down Superman and imbue it with enough magic to seriously harm him. However, while Thor doesn't usually use the God-Blast, if he does, Superman will be incinerated. However, even if Thor doesn't use it, he can use the Thermoblast which can harm Superman, or use the Anti-Force which can knock the Man of Steel out. Or, Thor can use his elemental control to manipulate the fundamental forces or nature to defeat Superman. He can also transport him to other dimensions, such as Asgard where Thor has the home field advantage. Superman cannot speed-blitz either since Silver Surfer is faster than him, and Thor reacted to him. Plus, he can also fly faster than light, so he can keep up with Superman. Thor can also drain energy from beings, so, even though it is unlikely, Thor might be able to absorb the solar energy from Superman.
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Da
Superman vs Thor
Superman Another theory, in Marvel and DC's 1996 Crossover event, Superman did lift Thor's hammer and use it. It wasn't canon, but it would be pretty awesome to see Superman catch Moljnier in mid air, and use it against Thor. Honestly this fight could go anyway. Remember, Superman is a power harvester so he could in theory absorb all of Thor's powers, leaving him completely and utterly useless. You mentioned taking Superman to Asgard and I agree that if Thor has the home field advantage he will defeat Superman. Thor draws his powers from Asgard, and when exposed to Asgard, he draws a lot more powers that I understand Superman couldn't handle. Not to mention, Thor would have all his Asgardian buddies to help pummel Superman. Same for Supes. If Superman and Thor are fighting in front of a yellow star, who you suppose will win? Not to mention, Superman is much faster than Thor, and his heat vision can exceed to over 50,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit (27,777,760 degrees Celsius), making it capable of burning through Thor completely cutting him in half! In the end, I think without home advantages Base Superman wins.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 215 d
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Thor has sat in the Core of a Sun without NO discomfort, so it is safe to say that he can handle twice the amount of heat. Plus, while Superman might win in front of a star, Thor will see how he gets stronger as he has divine wisdom, and BFR him to another dimension using Mjolnir. There, they can fight. Plus, Thor's lightning is tens of thousands of times deadlier than regular lightning, plus it is magical in nature, which can harm Superman. Plus, Thor has the God-Blast which can harm a weakened Galactus, so it can harm Superman. Superman is faster than Thor: That is true, but Thor has fought Silver Surfer, Hyperion, and even the Void, which are all close to Superman in speed. In fact, SS is faster than Supes, and Thor has held his own, so he won't lose because of speed. Superman cannot lift Mjolnir in canon because he is not willing to kill to gain an honorable victory in battle or war, so he is not worthy. Plus, Thor can absorb the energy from Superman with Mjolnir, maybe even depowering him with it. Plus, Thor can withstand Superman's freeze breath as he has survived the Casket of Ancient Winters unleashing its frostbitten power upon him. Plus, Thor can also control the elements on a fundamental level, even transmuting them in any way he wants.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 219 d
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Thor Superman Prime 1 Million beats Thor- I agree, no way around that- but then, you need a more powerful version of Thor like Odin-Force or King Thor, and those guys beat SPOM- Not even including Old King Thor or Rune King Thor.
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Superman vs Thor
Superman @AkhilPDX, Go read "All-Star Superman" where in the story it tells us that Supe's power's triple every 15 minutes he spends in the sun. He spent around 15,000 years in our sun. So that's 4x24(365)x15,000=525,600,000. It would be N(3^525,600,000)= infinity which tells us every physical trait of Superman is boosted by infinity! Also, I agree that Superman is weakened by magic, but so is Thor. Supes has also gotten so powerful that kryptonite and magic doesn't even affect him. "Powers gleaned from the very edge of time and space. Powers beyond any HELD by ANY metahuman EVER". SPOM is immortal and is a "power harvester". This means he can harvest the powers of any living organism (including Rune King Thor) and use it against them. If his powers are growing, then there is no limit to his power. In theory, SPOM will someday be the strongest character in comic book history. Remember, take my words lightly, for it is just my opinion

-Dan
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Superman @AkhilPDX, Did I just win my first debate or should I still be waiting for a reply?
-Dan
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Thor It's kind of late, so this will be the last reply for today- However, this isn't Superman Prime One Million, and Base Thor has enough versatility to put down Superman. He can use his lightning to strike down Superman and imbue it with enough magic to seriously harm him. However, while Thor doesn't usually use the God-Blast, if he does, Superman will be incinerated. However, even if Thor doesn't use it, he can use the Thermoblast which can harm Superman, or use the Anti-Force which can knock the Man of Steel out. Or, Thor can use his elemental control to manipulate the fundamental forces or nature to defeat Superman. He can also transport him to other dimensions, such as Asgard where Thor has the home field advantage. Superman cannot speed-blitz either since Silver Surfer is faster than him, and Thor reacted to him. Plus, he can also fly faster than light, so he can keep up with Superman. Thor can also drain energy from beings, so, even though it is unlikely, Thor might be able to absorb the solar energy from Superman.
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AkhilPDX 220 d
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Thor @Dan_the-Man? Come on, Thor beats Superman. He is equally strong and durable, and with Mjolnir- he hits harder. Did you know that Thor can even transmute matter, manipulate the weather, absorb and manipulate energy, create force-fields, disrupt invisibility and intangibility, absorb magic, and transmute the elements on a subatomic level. Yeah, he can also use the God-Blast which can hurt Galactus and he has the Anti-Force which is Magical Energy which can take out multiple people at once and even devastate entire armies? Do you still think Supes beats Thor?
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Superman @AkhilPDX, There's a couple different ways to think about it. At base forms, Superman beats Thor, but you bring up Thor at his peak strength. Superman Prime 1 Million which can break planets with ease, can hold black holes in his hands, break light speed,and go much faster, (mach 9350)! Remember, it's just my opinion, while Thor does have a chance of winning, I do believe Superman has a better chance.

Chances of Winning
Superman 54%
Thor 46%
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Superman vs Thor
Superman Superman in Raw strength, speed, durability.
Thor has magic to call lightening but the lightening is not magical like Shazam, and even at that Superman has still won those fights..
This being rebirth Supes is a very powerful version
PlasmaticPlays
Superman vs Thor
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Thor I actually change my mind, I think I have overrated superman way too much... I think Thor would win cause he is an actual god, Superman is just a hero who has his weeknesses
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Superman "a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes." That's the definition of a god so technically isn't Superman also a god? You also bring up the fact Superman is just a hero with weaknesses, yet Thor is also a hero, and Thor also has weaknesses which proves that your argument is false, and from my understanding, you're very ignorant on the subject.
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AkhilPDX 220 d
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Thor He isn't really ignorant, but yeah, Superman CAN beat Thor, but I don't think it'll happen the majority of the times. Superman is just an alien, not the hybrid between a Skyfather and an Elder Goddess. Thor has some really good divine benefits from their traits, so I think he'll win because he can use his magic to use against the vulnerability of Kryptonians, which will work if used in the right way.
ManofPower
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Superman Final Crisis #7
Superman uses a super scram and destroys True Darjseid who is at least multiversal
Death of the new gods
Superman cuts soul fire darkseid in half . a being who scares the source. A outerversal being
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Rizzo 230 d
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Thor Final Crisis isn't canon. The Trinity died in that book
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Dcfan123 230 d
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Superman Justice league #40 new 52 Phil Jimenez everything is canon expect for injustice and elseworlds https://comicbook.com/2015/05/01/dc-comics-just-made-their-entire-history-officially-canon/
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Rizzo 230 d
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Thor This is a composite of Pre and Post-Crisis Superman. That is what everyone's been using. Not Final Crisis
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Dcfan123 230 d
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Superman It never specify Superman anywhere its talking about every crisis ever made if you think I'm I'm lying go readcomicsonline and look up the comic justice league new 52 #40
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Rizzo 230 d
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Thor I'm talking about the site. On this site, we use Post/Pre-Crisis Superman. Not Final Crisis
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Dcfan123 230 d
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Superman It not talking about superman it's every single event that happened and also final crisis superman is the same Superman which is pre crisis superman just depowered
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Rizzo 230 d
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Thor Every single event that happened in DC is canon I know whatever, point is, you can't use Final Crisis feats because that's not the version of Superman we're using. If we allowed Final Crisis feats we also have to allow any feat that Superman has ever done, which isn't how we've been doing it. Same for every character on the site
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Dcfan123 230 d
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Superman post crisis superman is final crisis superman the writers don't say it I've checked this website this is base Superman who also infinite crisis,identity crisis and final crisis this is the superman of all those crisis.
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Rizzo 230 d
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Thor 1. It's not specified on the site itself, but ask any debater on here. Everyone uses a composite of Pre/Post-Crisis
2. By Post-Crisis, we mean Crisis on Infinite Earths. Just because they have "Crisis" in their name does not mean that it is the same thing
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Dcfan123 230 d
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Superman http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_(Clark_Kent) 1.27 context final crisis this the wiki page now prove me wrong.
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Rizzo 229 d
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Thor What? OK, let me prove you wrong
1. DC Wikia is not run by DC themselves, it is nothing more than a VSBW page, which we all know is incorrect sometimes. So don't act like this is the official DC web page
2. I'm sorry what? What are you trying to say? Because it's on a DC wikia it's canon? Please explain
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Rizzo 221 d
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Thor So are you going to prove me wrong or what's happening here?
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Dcfan123 221 d
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Superman Phil jamerz says if everything is canon is canon argue with him.
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Rizzo 220 d
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Thor Omfg, we're going in circles here. THIS IS POST/PRE-CRISIS SUPERMAN! Or at least what people on the site consider canon. (And even Post-Flashpoint but the majority of heroes are weaker then so those feats are not required.) Get that through your head.
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Dcfan123 220 d
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Superman it doesn't say anything on this sight about what version of Superman this is it the new superman post/new 52/convergence/infinite crisis/final crisis/zero hour/pre crisis/and flashpoint this superman is the one we all know even from death of Superman this is that Superman stop saying he,s most powerful one he,s the main one from rebirth right now prove me wrong on this.
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Dcfan123 220 d
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Superman https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Justice-League/Issue-40?id=18510 This comic proves evething is canon read it even final crisis
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Rizzo 219 d
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Thor Omg. Seriously. If you are just going to keep repeating yourself just quit the debate. Now let me repeat for the 31st time. No, it is not specified on the site, however, if you actually got into debates, you would know that everyone uses the Pre/Post-Crisis versions. Superman beating True Form Darkseid would possibly put him above IG Thanos, which obviously isn't true. So not only is it not canon but even if it was canon, it would be PIS. " this superman is the one we all know even from death of Superman this is that Superman stop saying he,s most powerful one". Yes but no one on the site uses that Superman. We've moved on from the conversation of whether it's canon or not, and we're now talking about what people on the site use. Now, you said "stop saying he,s most powerful one" 1. Huh? What are you talking about? I never said anything even related to that. And 2. Please try to spell better so I can understand your sentences.
And as for the comic, I'm not reading the whole thing. Give me a scan or at least the page number
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Rizzo 219 d
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Thor Not that the comic matters anyway since we've moved on from whether it's canon or not
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Dcfan123 219 d
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Superman I never said he was the powerful version I said final crisis is canon that what said and that this main canon Superman since rebirth and everything is canon
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Rizzo 219 d
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Thor Nemian's comment on my profile sums up my reaction pretty well
ManofPower
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Superman I never said they can't have supes power . They can't becomevas power as he is . Man of Steel isn't apart of the canon DC Multiverse
Thor can track light speed opponents but Superman is much MUCH faster than light
Strength isn't even as close as you think .
Black Adam and Shazam's magic is much more powerful than Thor's Batman had prep and radion . Plus the Hellbat suit .
Superman won with pure poet
Show me the comic/scan of Thor facing Mangog and Thanos back to back
Thor blasting Galactus is (I believe) Non Canon it was in the 60's for crying out loud
Superman as I said destroyed Impetiex .
Had destroyed Green Lanterns constructs .
Survived Omega beams
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Red Sun and Magic are not his weaknesses . He is Vulnerable to it
Heck thor himself is vulnerable to magic .
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DiBart24 231 d
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Thor People please put your bias aside here. Superman is a Kryptonian, an alien race, he is not special. Any kryptonian could be superman. Thor is a God. Born of Odin the all father of Asgard and Gaea the elder earth goddess making him the strongest being in the universe. Thor alone shares many of superman traits matching his strength not matching his speed but is a 10x better combatant. This is shown when superman fought batman and while superman lost his powers temporarily from kryptonite he was getting wrecked. Superman just benefits from our sun. on krypton he like all kryptonians were as human as can be. Now add Mjolnir to the equation. It has the force to crack a celestials skull. Celestials are god like universal entities like galactus. Now Thor only uses 1/3 of his total power against mortals and superman is mortal because he has been killed before and even for fear of his own life would never use all his power against a mortal. BUT if Thor is enraged enough to enter into a state of warriors madness he would no longer be holding back at all and not only this but warriors madness increases Thors strength tenfold now Thor is twice as strong than superman in warriors madness but at Thors belt megingjord which Thor always wears and that doubles all of Thor strength and speed. Now you have plain old super and Thor enraged and quadrupling his total power level. Its complete annihilation of superman. And say Thor doesn't choose this route? Can summon a storm with cloud thick enough to black super precious sun and wreck him this way. What can super do to win? Speed isn't enough here and really isn't even a factor to begin with. If you possibly think superman wins this fight you're to selfish to put your feelings aside and wake up to reality.
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ManofPower
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Superman Dude do you know who supetman even is .
While Thor is a extremely powerful for he cannot defeat Superman
Saying any Kryptonian can become Superman is like saying any Asgardian could wield Mjolnir . Which is FALSE
Supes is faster and stronger than Thor .
Thor is not even close to the strongest being
Hulk , Hercules and Silver Surfer surpasses him
Cracking a celestials skull ha
Superman obliterated Imperiex
Superman has beaten Darkseid , Mongul and Parallax . All who equal (except Mongul) a Celestial in power
Thor and Superman are both able to be killed . Thor's "Immortality" is a form of Infinite Longevity .
Thor couldn't defeat the Sentry . A being weaker than Supes .
And block the sun really?
Superman can either absorb sunlight from the earth or just store his energy . Plus Superman can move the clouds
Thor and Superman are near equals but Superman takes the win
Thor would either stalemate or lose to the man of steel
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DiBart24 231 d
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Thor First yes any kryptonian can possess the powers of supes as seen in man of steel with zod hell even Ursa whipped supes. second faster yes but Thor can track objects at light speed and strength is pretty even if you look at each of their feats such as for Thor lifting the Midgard serpent which wraps around the earth. Third Thor has destroyed silver surfers force field and hell even dented his head, Thor defeated the sentry and killed bob Reynolds removing the threat of the void and Thor matched hulks strength for an hour before the battle ended in a stale mate. and Hercules and Thor threw a planet out of orbit while arm wrestling before that ended in a stalemate. As for super beating darkseid batman also shares this feat so lets dial back the gravity of that. Thor mortally wounded galactus with a god blast and sent him fleeing so why the hell would a god blast not take out supes. Thor defeated mangog and thanos back to back and also fought the entire frost giant army for 9 months straight without rest or sustenance. Thor knocked out the phoenix force, knocked out namor with a single punch and namor has even held his own against the hulk and sentry. But enough about feats. Thor possesses all of superman strength while lacking slightly in speed and while not having heat vision or freeze breathe give me mjolnir over those everyday except the ones that don't end in "Y" but superman is susceptible to magic. He has had trouble dealing with Shazam and has lost to black Adam. Thors attacks are all magic based obviously not the strikes but the lighting is summoned by magic. Thors only weakness is that he overlooks his opponent at times but he wouldn't overlook superman, well the avengers/jla crossover he did but that cant considered canon. Thor is almost tailored to be able to defeat superman in everyday. Especially since super has lost to doomsday from a stab wound and not any sort of kryptonite removing the fact that kryptonite isn't required to beat superman
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DiBart24 231 d
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Thor *superman did not lose to black adam i was told incorrect information. although he struggled against him
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Superman vs Thor
Superman Slowdinson gets speedblitzed⚑️
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LordTracer
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Thor Really? There's still people who believe that Slowdinson garbage? Thor is not slow in the slightest. Dude is thousands of times faster than light.
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Thor While I still believe Thor would win here, I have to give some props for "Slowdinson" because that is pure gold
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AkhilPDX 231 d
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Thor 1. Thor hasn't really lost to someone because of speed
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While I disagree with you and say that Thor is much faster than light, I got to give you credit for "Swinson"- it's hilarious ;)
LordTracer
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Thor You guys know he didn't come up with Slowdinson, right? It's been a thing on Comic Vine for years.
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Superman yes i heard of a God blast and i dont mean superman cannot be affected by he can,, so can everyone else just dat people always say it like its kryptonite and superman has survive a supernova whilst being weakened by a red sun.. but not sayin' he will tank it unharmed
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Rizzo 231 d
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Thor Dude, the God Blast harmed Galactus, who has Multi-Galaxy level durability. Superman has never accomplished anything on that level
LordTracer
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Thor Galactus has much more than multi-galaxy level durability. And Superman once destroyed a structure that withstood the Big Bang, which would give him universal levels of power, far more than multi-galaxy level.
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Dcfan123 231 d
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Superman Also too in comic 649 the final panel shows not just prime eart or earth 2 superman fighting its shows every other version fighting in the back ground It's every superman version in every reality fight to so it's the same fight.
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Thor It's a tough battle,but at the end the God of Thunder would destroy the kryptonian
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Superman i believe, irrespective of magic, superman wins,,i mean??? his faster, definitely stronger and has more endurance. and magic is not a weak ness, its a vulnerability!!! it just means he can be affected by it,,just like every one else. and its not as if Thor is pure magic,,he powers are mostly physical and he has used lightning on stark before but only normal damage was done,,and remember tony can be affected by magic,,even in the comics,,superman won,,,i mean,,all the odds are stacked against Thor...superman wins
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Rizzo 231 d
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Thor 1. Superman beating Thor was non-canon
2. I'm sorry? "It just means he can be affected by it" You're acting like that doesn't affect him at all
3. Ever heard of a God Blast?
Hurricano
Hurricano 241 d
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Superman close match it would last days but ima good with superman
ra
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Superman Superman has the advantage in strength, speed, intelligence, power. He wins 7 out of 10 times. The only thing Thor has is combat experience which is not enough of an advantage.
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Thor No, he really doesn't have the advantage in anything except for speed and intelligence.
AndreasVer
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Thor Superman has a known vulnerability in magic, so even if he outclasses Thor in everything, he loses in a solo fight. Just the same with Wonder Woman almost beating him in fights, even if not only Supes, but also Thor, outclass her in everything. But I admit Thor could never beat Thanos, but Supes can.
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Superman vs Thor
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Superman Superman has the advantage in strength, speed, intelligence, power. He wins 7 out of 10 times. The only thing Thor has is combat experience which is not enough of an advantage.
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Superman vs Thor
Thor Superman is an alien "man"! Thor is the "God of Thunder". But don't worry they will create "Superman 1 Billion" and "Superman Armor of Infinity" etc, etc until he is the most boring God of all Superheros.
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Superman vs Thor
Thor Thor is a God,Superman just an alien
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Any one? Want to debate this ?
ManofPower
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Superman Dang C R A P is a bad word ?
ManofPower
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Superman @SirSpidet even though I'm not even clos to done with my research do you want to do a warm up .(I want actual feats and not that beyonde **** bro)
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DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
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not voted What Beyonder ****?
ElectroSpino
Superman vs Thor
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Superman you don't know? RK Thor defeated a group of celestial beings that SirSpidey calls Beyonders (Those who site above in the Shadow)
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman No @electro it wasn't RKT it was Thor he said could defeat a group of beyonders
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
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not voted No I never got into Thor, or got in drama with him on the site
SirSpidey
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Thor @ManofPower: When have I ever said Thor defeated a group of Beyonders? And sure, let's debate
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 275 d
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Thor @ElectroSpino: In which comic is it said that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are Celestial beings?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 275 d
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Thor Umm, that is not a comic. I asked for a comic, not a website
windshadow
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Thor Yes but Marvel themselves said TWSAIS are Celestial Beings. I used to think they were Elder Gods but meh.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 275 d
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Thor Did you not read what it said on the bottom of the page?
"Take note, True Believer! This crowd-sourced content has not yet been verified for accuracy by our erudite editors!"

~ Marvel Editorial Staff
windshadow
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Oh. lol.
TheSuspect666
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Superman @SirSpidey are you just ok? In which comics does it says Thoese who sit above in Shadow are the Beyonders?
SirSpidey
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Thor Refer back to the Rune King Thor 'message' page
windshadow
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Thor @Spidey You edited TWSAIS wiki page right? https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Those_Who_Sit_Above_in_Shadow_(Earth-616)
TheSuspect666
Superman vs Thor
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Superman @SirSpidey and? Like you said every time I want comic book evidence! You can't prove nothing.RKT can be easy defeated by Eternity.And No were writers say TWSAIS are The Beyonders.
Hawkinz
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Thor Woah! When did this happen, I thought I'd never see the day Thor tops Supes since he was so far back in voting
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DarkProdigy
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not voted Happened a while ago actually
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Hadi 280 d
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Thor Thor
windshadow
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Thor @Spidey Want to compare feats? I mean Thor wins but lets compare feats anyway.
NorrinRadd
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Superman potentially has the advantage in speed, though I doubt it's vastly different than Thor's, Thor is just not often seen using it or relying on it. Thor is basically Marvel's Superman (of course there are other imitations like Sentry and Hyperion) and was created because Marvel needed someone who could rival the Hulk's strength. Between the two of them Superman has all of the disadvantages though (need to absorb electromagnetic radiation or photons from the yellow end of the spectrum from our white sun and weakness or loss of powers near other radiation [kryptonite, "red sunlight"], and not invulnerable to magic) so if I'm thinking of who would win anytime, anyplace it's Thor, because if Superman is away from our sun long enough eventually he'd lose his powers and even with his powers they're on the same level (we're not even talking about Odinforce Thor or Rune King Thor) . Also, Thor has more experience & is a better combatant...and he lives for the fight, he was bred to be a warrior king...and Supes?...they call him the Big Blue Boy Scout
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NorrinRadd
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Thor warrior god* king
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Thor How can people vote Superman?
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soratoumiga
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Superman It's a close battle.
SirSpidey
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Thor In what ways?
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blak_eeee 292 d
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Thor Hey, look over there! It's Thor knocking over Galactus! - http://i.imgur.com/WSKJMwx.jpg
He just did it again! - http://i.imgur.com/b7Cwf25.jpg
Oh, look... it's Superman moving some clouds... - http://i.imgur.com/n8xwbu5.jpg
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windshadow
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Thor Those were shockwaves from his punches.
SirSpidey
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Thor Hey, what is Thor doing over there? Really? He just defeated Galactus within one blast? Amazing! (https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oh13ASSw_Z4/VnpeYkHYT7I/AAAAAAAAPr4/QP74nFgKcLs/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg)
DarkProdigy
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not voted @windshadow He will was still moving clouds via shockwaves from HIS punches
IGLxAresx
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Superman I believe superman would win his strength is too high for Thor to match up against
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windshadow
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Thor His strength above Thor? HAHA.
SirSpidey
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Thor Can anyone prove, using the comics, that Superman would defeat Thor? I have yet to see one person do so. Or just give me a list of his greatest feats and we can compare them to Thor's
DeanDinosaur6
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Thor would beat Superman 5 times out of 10, but in one fight Thor would win.
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Superman Thor had trouble against chars like Wolverine, Cap. America and Black Panther over the years cuz of combat speed. And Superman is far far faster, responsive and precise all of those street levelers.
Thor's some attacks has FTL speeds but So Superman has too.
Eventually Modern Age Thor w/o Odin-Force cant injure Superman heavily also he is gonna has problems to tag Superman.
Superman can evade, counter attack or just phase into Thor's attempts.
Superman -> faster, stronger, smarter.
Thor -> More experienced, more endured and has magic.
I'll go with the Supe
windshadow
Superman vs Thor
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Thor After doing some research, this is a tough fight. Though thor has his magic and superior experience to Superman, Superman has fought Diana and Shazam, characters with magic and superior experience(not shazam). But thor is superior to these guys too.
So after a hard fight, Thor wins due to his greater versatility, magic and experience to Superman 6/10 times.
Ga
Superman vs Thor
Thor Over all I like Superman far better then Thor as a character but like should have nothing to do with deciding fight. So looking at both of them this is close. Superman has the speed advantage and Thor's main advantage is magic abilities. This is very close but I give to Thor. Main reasoning is he matches Superman in many areas since taking over as ruler of Asguard, also he is a better combatant with years more experience and has extremely powerful magic abilities.
ra
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Superman is faster then lightspeed to. Just depends on the writer. He has also beaten Thor in a cross over. Superman has the advantage in this.
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10earthquakes
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Thor The crossovers between DC and Marvel are non-canon.
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Superman Thats irrelevant. If you are talking feats then you pull what is considered fun, sells well and what people remember. The cannon argument does not work since this site literally has JL and Avenergers battle. But aside from that if you look at default Superman and Default Thor, Superman has the edge in every area. Honeslty I think a better match up would be Thor vs Wonder Woman, with Thor having the advantage.
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Superman vs Thor
Thor That cross over is before Thor took over as leader of Asguard and far less powerful. Thor now has held is own against Galactus and fought the likes of Silver Surfer. While I believe this would be very close I do think Thor takes this barely.
ra
Superman vs Thor
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Superman So you are saying its Thor once he became leader of Asgard. So we are not going default settings of these characters. Then a counter argument would be pre-52 Superman. He still has the advantage. This comes down to each characters limits and Thor clearly has more then Superman does.
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Superman vs Thor
Thor Thor fights Silver Surfer to stand still he has held his own for a time against Galactus. His magical capabilities or all at or neat cosmic levels and he has been fighting for centuries. Look I love Superman way better character then Thor but I to fan influences out and only looked at abilities. I do believe this could go either way fight is very very close but Thor would win. However I do also see your reasoning for Superman
SirSpidey
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Thor Thor has fought the Silver Surfer 6 times and won 4 and tied 2 due to outwardly intervention. He is vastly more superior to Silver Surfer. Silver Surfer even admitted that Thor's Magic is stronger than his Power Cosmic. And Thor didn't just hold his own against Galactus, Thor literally defeated Galactus within one blast
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Thor Thor would win 8/10 times, yes superman has speed but don't forget Thor has fought many people who where faster than than him and won, plus Mjornir is faster than light speed which would be a massive boost on Thor winning, and then again Thor has magic which is one of superman's main weakness, then gold blast would just be able to finish him, I like both characters but Thor would Just obliterate him
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Ga
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Thor I do not think Thor would win that easily and think 6/10 times is more likely. Superman would use his speed advantage and would not pull punches against Thor. But I believe Thor would win for reasons you listed combat experience and magic capabilities
ra
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Superman would win
Sn
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Superman has solo flare though it slowly kills him.
du
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Thor 30, superman 28
du
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Thor 30, superman 28
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Superman vs Thor
Thor 6 / 10 victory. The god blast is in Thor's favour.
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted We have gone from 20 votes away to 6. Come on people
Ne
Superman vs Thor
Thor Superman is without a doubt one of the strongest ever. Thor on the other hand just has the advantage. Thor has beaten Shazam in the DC Marvel Crossover and that was when Shazam was regarded as equal or stronger than Superman. Super also has a weakness to magic, and Thor's entire attack strategy is based on his magic lightning and his magic hammer, Mjornir. Supes can speed blitz but Thor has been recorded moving at light speed. Eventually they'd reach a red sun which is also a weakness of Superman. Yes, Superman could win. There's just a better chance for Thor.
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CaptainAmericaTakesAll
Superman vs Thor
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Superman In the crossover Superman beat Thor.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Stops the Brainiac Mothership from colliding with Earth, with the help of Martian Manhunter, which was huge
Bench-pressed the Earth's weight for five days with no access to sunlight, also stated he could toss the moon out of orbit
Pushes Warworld into the Phantom Zone, right after being exposed with kryptonite
Casually carries a submarine
Carries a large spaceship into orbit while weakened
Catching an aircraft carrier with Wonder Woman
Stop the watchtower from falling back to Earth
Lifts a ship
Hits Wraith with a large ship
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
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not voted That crossover was not canon
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
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not voted Lol, "casually carries a submarine". A submarine is NOTHING. Thor has reversed the world engine, which was moving Yggdrasil. the tree that connects the 9 worlds - http://i.imgur.com/NBmQa8j.jpg - Also, speaking of casually, a casual throw of Mjolnir hurt Galactus, who has around galaxy level durability. Now, what do you think is more impressive, harming Galactus who has galaxy level durability, or lifting a submarine, which would have been around 40,000 - 50,000 tons. As for your other feats, none of them equal to harming Galactus - http://i.imgur.com/1WpCk32.jpg
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IAmNomad 323 d
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Thor Superman - 28
Thor - 30
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Thor Wins
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DiBart24 332 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor People need to get over the popularity contest that people make this match out to be. One is a god for a reason. Thor lived in the center of the sun and fought the FROST GIANTS for 9 months straight so that virtually removes the advantages of supes heat vision and freeze breath. Thors hammer is the most devastating weapon from either dc or marvel universes. Its abilities alone outmatch supermans all together. Thor has also fought and defeated celestial beings before so superman wouldn't even be Thors toughest opponent he's ever faced. Thor has also fought the likes of silver surfer and has defeated him and he can move as fast or maybe even faster than superman so the speed difference between the two wouldn't be a huge factor. Finally and I don't think anyone has ever taken this into consideration is that Thors weather manipulation can block the sun with the clouds which is supes source of strength and I'm not even mentioning the possibility that thor gets his hands on kryptonite. Listen i love superman and his selflessness is awe inspiring but this is one match the man of steel doesn't walk away from.
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Kanine88
Kanine88 315 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor Exactly. Everyone who votes for superman just wants him to win. But deep down inside, they know the truth. They just can't get over it.
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Akria02 334 d
Superman vs Thor
Thor thor wins
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Okay that isn't really fair for you but I'm down if you're down!
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In
Superman vs Thor
Thor @Mop
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Alright why do you think Thor wins ? 😊
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor First off, Thor has been shown to move faster than FTL speeds. Being able to reguarly travel across the 9 realms without the bifrost in a short amount of time. Not to mention the 9 realms are totally separate universes, so that means he can move a lot faster than FTL speeds. He has godlike stamina, as he has fought an army of frost giants for 9 months without getting tired. He has thousands of year of experience, weapons training and has the ability to exploit his opponents weaknesses to his advantage. He has also headbutted the Silver Surfer which actually dented him. While Thor only had a bruise
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor He also has magic, one of Superman's biggest weaknesses
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Well superman has survived Darkseid s omega beams , he has held together a universe , he has sneease away a solar system , he has defeated the Jla and he's defeated shazam who is similar to thor
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Shazam is nowhere near on Thor's level. And also, I think fighting an army of frost giants for nine months is better than one blast of Darkseid's omega beams. Thor also has the Warrior Madness. An ability which he rarely uses but allows him to go berserk for a couple of minutes which would let him utterly destroy Thor. The god blast and the magic is enough for Superman
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Also, Superman barely lived Darkseid's beams
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman I admit defeat so quickly lol πŸ˜‚
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Well it's better than not admitting to defeat and denying facts / getting angry which was common on CV. Nice debate!
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Yeah yok are 😎
remy94
remy94 346 d
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Superman Sups surviving the Omega effect twice, is quite impressive considering it can shatter Wonder Woman's bracelets with ease.
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Swarm 346 d
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Superman Yeah CV can be pretty toxic at times and their formatting wasn't the greatest. The site also kind of looked dull in general. I drifted away from that site years ago.
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Darkseid's laser beams are not as powerful as the God Blast. So I think the god blast could kill him
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Actually @Remy94 it was Grails lasers that destroyed The bracelets
And on second thought please don't call me @Mop
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Haha sorry. Will try do avoid that
remy94
remy94 346 d
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Superman I would have to say that the two attacks are about equal in destructive power, although the Omega beams are capable of more things then the God blast. Superman not surviving the god blast would be correct, due to the fact that he is not invulnerable to Magic.
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Took the words right out my mouth @remy94
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Thanks bro
I thought @Mop would sound cooler but then I realized it was a cleaning utensil πŸ˜‚
Hawkinz
Hawkinz 346 d
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Thor @Swarm Comic Vine was the place I was about to get invested too but then I found this great discovery luckily lol.
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Thor @Hawkinz i got sucked into the storm!
Hawkinz
Hawkinz 346 d
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Thor Lol I'm glad I avoided it then, doesn't sound to appealing.
ManofPower
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Superman You mean the Star Storm! πŸ˜‚
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor The Omega Beams have been blocked before. The Godblast has not. How are the Omega Beams as powerful as the Godblast?
remy94
remy94 346 d
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Superman They have many of the same feats.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor Oh, like the Omega Beams being incapable of killing aliens like Superman, while the Godblast is shown being capable of defeating beings like Galactus?
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman @Spidey you are correct the Omega Beams are much much weaker than godblast
The Godblast has harmed galactus
(Even though this isn't canon) Darkseid has blasted galactus with the Omega Beams and they done absolutely nothing
Im
Superman vs Thor
Thor I can only laugh on those DC fan boys who think Superman will win bcz Superman cant even beat SHAZAM...
If you find a battle btwn Shaman and Thor on this site you will get Thor as a Winner
Thor is much more powerful than Shazam he is a God...
Superman can only give him a tough fight but at last Thor Will win...
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In
Superman vs Thor
Thor I wouldn't call them fanboys. It's their own opinion and everyone has a right to that
Si
Superman vs Thor
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Thor @InfiniteDestruction I can tell we are going to get along very well. I also read your profile, and I can near guarantee you that if that happens I will do my best to help you out. Welcome to the site :)
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Thanks man! But I wouldn't worry I've been on here before for about a week a year ago and I don't know why I just stayed other than have to deal with that crap on CV.
Si
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Sweet, it is always good to have another kind person on this site.
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Bro if your friends with him that means your friends with me welcome to the cool side 😎
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Thanks! Already a better community than CV
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor The website quality is much better to!
Si
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Hell yeah @ManofPower!
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Yeyah also y'all can call me @Mop so it shortens my name
With that being said
@Infinitedestruction do you want to join the varosverse
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor I only joined yesterday, so unfortunately not right now. Let me settle in, make some OC's and we'll see what happens!
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Take your time bro
Remember your with the cool kids 😎
In
Superman vs Thor
Thor Searched the website and found a New-52 Superman, soo I'm guessing this is Post-Crisis Superman? In that case, this battle is a tie
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LordTracer
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Thor It's never been officially determined, but I think the most fair way is to count Superman as a mix of Pre and Post-Crisis. Oh, and by the way, this is Odin Force Thor.
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Thor Sooo god blast?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor Thor has the Godblast even without the Thor Force
remy94
remy94 346 d
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Superman The cannon version of Superman is Pre-flash point/Rebirth
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor Prove it
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Superman vs Thor
Thor Just to clear up, is this Post or Pre-Crisis Superman?
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Superman vs Thor
Thor Sorry, stupid question of mine. What version of Superman is this?
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted That would be a question to ask anyone but me
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor This used to be Post-Flashpoint Superman, but now, since we added New 52 Superman, I'm guessing this is Pre-Flashpoint Superman
Bbq444
Bbq444 349 d
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Superman What if Thor destroys the Sun where Superman could get his energy?
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Si
Superman vs Thor
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Thor If Thor does that he will kill billions of people, and eventually Superman.
Hawkinz
Hawkinz 350 d
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Thor @SirSpidey If this battle were to actually take place, how would you truthfully see it going down? Do you think it'll last for awhile or do you believe Thor simply destroys him early? I'm genuinely curious since this seems to be the most popular battle on this site.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 350 d
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Thor It would be a complete and utter godstomp. That is if Thor wasn't holding back. If Thor were to hold back, It would take longer, but it would still be a stomp
remy94
remy94 349 d
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Superman No it would not be a godstomp, Thor has been overwhelmed multiple times by Beta Ray Bill, at the time Bill was no more powerful then Superman.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor Beta Ray Bill is vastly more powerful than Superman. While Superman can only shake a single planet with his punches, Beta Ray Bill completely destroys them in one go. As for Thor vs Beta Ray Bill, there first encounter was not fair as Thor was still in communion with his mortal form Donald Blake, so if Thor were to be separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds, he would turn into Donald Blake. Unfortunately, Thor did get separated from Mjolnir for more than 60 seconds which caused Thor to turn into Donald Blake, as previously mentioned, so Beta Ray Bill took advantage and knocked Donald Blake out. In there second encounter, Thor was without Mjolnir and Beta Ray Bill had the advantage because his body was more acclimated to the environment that they were fighting in
remy94
remy94 346 d
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Superman As I said at the time Beta Ray Bill was no more powerful than Superman, and I do believe it was only after Stormbreaker that Bill was capable of destroying planets.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor Yeah, you might be correct
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Superman Everyone saying Thor is a god is WRONG. Thor is a DEMI-GOD (HALF HUMAN, HALF GOD) Superman is Kryptonian. 0% Human. He is a superior life-form. Superman wins. Literally in strength, speed, combat, Abilities and in everything! Superman doesn't have a weakness against lightning and thunder. So....??? SUPEY WINS
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LordTracer
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Thor I don't know what Marvel comics you've been reading, but Thor is zero percent human. Thor is fifty percent Asgardian and fifty percent Elder God.
remy94
remy94 351 d
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Superman I do believe although I could be wrong, Thor is regarded as a demigod in ancient mythology.
IMABATMAN42
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Superman doesn't have a weakness to regular lightning, but he does have a weakness to magic. Thor's lightning IS magic. Superman is weak to it, therefore he would lose.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 351 d
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Thor Superman's weakness to magic is not the only reason he would lose
remy94
remy94 349 d
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Superman Actually it would be one few ways Thor could possibly win.
remy94
remy94 349 d
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Superman As long as Superman has sunlight, magic isn't going to be a factor.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor There are more than only three ways Thor could win. That is an ignorant statement @remy94. In which comic does it state that Superman is immune to magic if he has the Sun?
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Superman vs Thor
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Superman Literally Superman. Anyone can hold Mjolnir who is true of heart and Wonder Woman was one of the heroes who actually was able to carry it and Superman too on the DC x Marvel crossover. Plus thor's Weakness is piercing weapons. Superman wins.
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LordTracer
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Thor is not weak to piercing weapons. Wonder Woman is.
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
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not voted Thor wins 6.5 / 10
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windshadow
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor then y vote superman?
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted I change my mind on this battle all the time. I'm sure my mind will change to Thor in a couple days and i'm pretty sure I'll never have a definitive answer in a while
remy94
remy94 351 d
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Superman At Superman's maximum potential (sun dipped) he will defeat Thor.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 351 d
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Thor In that case, we would have to give Thor Rune King Thor as that is his maximum potential
remy94
remy94 349 d
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Superman That's not the same thing
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 346 d
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Thor How so?
TheDarkLord
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Thor is more versatile, has more abilities, with Mjolnir attacks stronger than Superman and his energy projection is far superior to Superman, but Superman's combat speed is higher.
Thor wins 6/10 or 7/10
Galactus
Galactus 360 d
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Superman We need someone that knows as much about Superman as @SirSpidey knows about Thor. Only then it will be a fair debate.
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batsheet
batsheet 360 d
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Superman Honestly, lol
Si
Superman vs Thor
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Thor I think the issue is DC just constantly reboots/ recons Superman, so @SirSpidey excuses most arguments that are made. Which isn't a bad thing. However if Pre-Crisis Superman was included/ cannon I am sure people could think of a lot more arguments for Superman.
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 360 d
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Thor Unfortunately Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster have passed on, so I'm not sure we're going to get that.
batsheet
batsheet 360 d
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Superman Not an expert here, correct me if I'm wrong. But they haven't really explored Superman's feats in Rebirth and didn't in 52.
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
ManofPower
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Yeah I'm not into rebirth of new 52 in my agreements i bring pre crisis supes if you go down below you'll see that's basically all I was talking about
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor Well in that case, expect most people to dismiss your arguments @ManofPower
remy94
remy94 360 d
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Superman Actually Rebirth brought back pre-flash point Superman, after New 52 Superman died.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 351 d
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Thor When did New 52 Superman die?
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman First I have come back for one purpose and one purpose only. To prove @SirSpidey wrong that Superman is weak. I respect Thor and I give him a lot of credit, like beating Galactus. I will use canon comic book references to give you a list of feats that will prove to all of you that Superman is not as weak as @SirSpidey makes out. I will start as soon as @SirSpidey replies to me.
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CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Don't think I have anything against @SirSpidey, he happens to be a pretty cool guy.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor It's not that Superman is weak, it's just that his strength isn't comparable to that of Thor's. Superman's greatest feat of strength is benching the weight of the mere Earth for five days straight. I have done the math and that would come out to be 2.6 octillion tons that Superman was lifting. So while you can actually calculate Superman's greatest feat of strength, there is no possible way to calculate Thor's greatest feat of strength as you would have to figure out how many planets are in the Universe and know how much they way
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor *weigh
TheSuspect666
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2 year member
Superman @SirSpidey Im not sure,but i think Superman also lift infinity.Later i will research :D
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Ok put strength on the side for now. I will start with durability.
Superman tanks the Big Bang and destroys an object that can withstand the Big Bang. (Yield: Low Universe Level)
www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/pc-superman-even-can-survival-big-bang-1456568/
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004635-enduresentirecreation.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004637-enduresentirecreation2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004636-enduresentirecreation1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004634-2908743-action553_22.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004639-survivesbigbang1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3004638-survivesbigbang.jpg
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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1 year member
Superman Superman fights Blackstarr, an extremely powerful cosmic reality warper, and tanks the force of a million galaxies. We can calculate the "force of a million galaxies" in many ways. When Blackstarr says the "force of a million galaxies", she most likely means force, in newtons, equivalent to the mass of 1 million galaxies. So we can use Work = Force x Distance to obtain a figure for the feat. (Yield: 2.0704806066321756E59 J, Galaxy Cluster Level+)
Mass of the Milky Way = 1.153359E42 kg.
Force of a galaxy = 1.153359E42 newtons
Force of a million galaxies = 1.153359E48 newtons
Distance that Superman was flung = 1.2 to 2.2 AU, as he was flung so far that he hit the asteroid belt from Earth.
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Precrisis/supermansupergirlvsblackstarr5.jpg.html
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/EndlessMike9/media/Precrisis/supermansupergirlvsblackstarr6.jpg.html
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor Um, those are not comic books
batsheet
batsheet 360 d
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Superman This right here, this is good.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor And, do you understand what canon Is? I'm not excepting any of those feats
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman Yes they are comic books, you just have to take some time and go through them.
SirSpidey
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Thor I would rather not waste my time on non-canon scans
Si
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Thor @SirSpidey how do you know someones evidence isn't cannon?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor Because of how old they are. And the forum that @CaptainAmericaTakesAll used to get his argument from even said that it was Pre-Crisis Superman
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted Floyd Spideyweather vs Conor McMerica
DarkProdigy
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted In my opinion Thor should be a 34 and Supes should be a 20
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TheNemianLion
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2 year member
Thor Superman is way closer to Thor than that.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor How?
Ma
Mattt 364 d
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Superman Superman stomps,thor sucks
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 364 d
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Thor Not what the comics dictate
windshadow
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1 year member
Thor fanboy detected(not you sirspidey)
batsheet
batsheet 361 d
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Superman @SirSpidey trust me he doesn't read comics. Though you don't need to read comics to know Superman wins.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor @batsheet: Lol, that is the most fanboy statement I have ever read
batsheet
batsheet 360 d
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Superman "I'm not a fanboy, I'm just stating the facts"
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor Prove that what you say is fact
batsheet
batsheet 360 d
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Superman Genuine question @SirSpidey, what is Thor best feat for all stats? Intelligence, Strength, Speed, etc.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor Let me do this whenever everything settles down. Also, do you want evidence?
batsheet
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Superman Would be helpful, sure. I would try to do the same but I have no clue how to find sources and I'm too cheap to buy comics.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 360 d
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Thor http://readcomiconline.to
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 18918 m
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Thor @Darth_Doom: Well for starters, you cannot use the Avengers/Justice League crossovers as evidence because those are not canon. As for the speed of Thor, a ton of people like to reference the time Thor had trouble with Wolverine because that is one of the very few low showings of Thor. It was indeed plot induced stupidity considering the fight took place in Thor vs Wolverine and the only way to please the audience (or Wolverine fanboys) was to make Thor extremely less powerful than he usually is. Lastly, Thor on foot can go faster than light. Thor with the help of Mjolnir can go at speeds that transcend time. That is my opinion on the matter, but I can back it up with comic book evidence if need be
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Da
Darth_Doom 1 y and 18897 m
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Thor Ok did you look at it on the site i have you if so I give up i can't win the debate I've been doing this for some days now first with @IMABATA N 42 THEN you I just can't win it also are we cool
No hard fellings
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 18874 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Yeah, I looked at it. The guy seemed very biased and only used the low showings of Thor. Yeah, we are cool
Da
Darth_Doom 1 y and 18866 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Oh and I'm not apologizing because your a moderator i put my pride aside and apologized
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 18862 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Don't worry, everything is fine between us
Da
Darth_Doom 1 y and 18855 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Ok and do you play last of us my dad might play with you I don't feel like playing it right now but he might also I'm trying to get him to join superherodb he's a giant Batman fanboy
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 18827 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Unfortunately I do not play The Last of Us. Is it any good? I might buy it if it is worth while
Sw
Swarm 1 y and 18820 m
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Superman It's absolutely incredible. One of the greatest gaming experiences I've ever had, I've played the story at least 7 times and it keeps getting better. I honestly envy you since you get to experience it for the first time whenever you play it.
Da
Darth_Doom 1 y and 18813 m
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1 year member
Thor Yeah and I haven't played story mode yet but I've played online and I'm a blog πŸ˜€ noob and What s y'all psn mind is DubK72
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y and 18809 m
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
not voted SirSpidey I have a question, even though I agree Thor would win what's the big difference between canon Thor and non canon Thor?
Sw
Swarm 1 y and 18809 m
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Superman Damn you're lucky too, I can't put into words how great 'The Last of Us', it easily is one of the best stories ever told in gaming.
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Thor I could have played it I've watched my dad play it numerous times I just don't like story mode but I m might try it and how excited are you about tlou 2 and do you know that lasts of us is one of the most popular games ever up their with a certain mari o game
SirSpidey
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Thor Nice! I just might consider buying it. My gamer tag is SirSpidey01
SirSpidey
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Thor @DarkProdigy: While canon Thor decimates beings like Galactus, the Void, a more powerful version of Odin, and even Thanos who was so amped he was equal to Death in power, non-canon Thor gets beat by mere aliens like Superman
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Superman @Darth_Doom Damn you have no idea excited I am for The Last of Us 2. Beyond excited, hell like I said I can't put it into words. I've been waiting 5 years for the sequel and yeah whenever you get the chance play the story it's a once in a lifetime experience.
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Superman @SirSpidey Alright I'll send you an invite tomorrow.
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Thor @Swarm do you have a problem with covert 3 my dad complains after complains about it what do you have to say about it
TheNemianLion
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Thor My favorite game is Minecraft
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Thor Oh and also can you start doing new comments i keep losing the comments you send trying to reply to them
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SirSpidey
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Thor Yeah, it gets pretty annoying
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Superman Yes there is no need to kick I'm off the site, he just needs to rethink his approach when he comments, and start respecting other people's opinions.
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SirSpidey
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Thor I'll start respecting others opinions whenever they start using facts
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Superman Sirspidey yeah good idea for my advice you can start not replying on the people that don't use facts about this battle but reply on the people who actually issue the comic for evidence.
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Thor That is a great idea, but not many people actually do reference comics as evidence for their arguments
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Thor Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
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Superman @Darth_Doom Why would Galactus kick him off? I'm not trying to get into this but I don't believe he should be kicked off the site just for debating. I mean this site is supposed to fun not sure why you want him off.
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Thor @SirSpidy is fine he didnt cuss you out and he isnt mean he just wants you to use facts and comics as a reference
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Thor By kick him off i mean straighten him off and he was to cussing @Remy94 out and talking about a second account t is not debating it's trying to get under his skin and I already said this he has no respect he always has to be right but I don't want him off the server i just want him to stop being disrespectful to us (not me)
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Thor Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
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Thor Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
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Thor I didn't meAn SPAM that I'm sorry
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Thor Superman/Shazam First Thunder issue 3
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Thor @SirSpidey i have a question who wins between sonic or the flash
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SirSpidey
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Thor The Flash
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Thor My brother wants to know why flash beats sonic i say it's because flash is better in all feats but can you say why so me a nd him don't start please thnks
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Thor I don't know. The Flash isn't my expertise
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Thor Ok thank you
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Thor Raven as shazam And Mr myxzptlk are except for shazam more powerful than thorn in magic And what what about ra iden dark Khan black ada m Zhao Khan and so on
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Thor Raven definitely doesn't have more powerful magic. Shazam has equal magic in base but Thor's hammer definitely gives him the edge. If Mr. Mxyzptlk was actually serious in a fight with Superman, Superman would stand no chance whatsoever, Mxy could literally think him away. Do you mean the Mortal Kombat characters, dude, that was a video game. Black Adam may be slightly more powerful than Shazam, but it still doesn't matter. Keep em coming, I can do this all day.
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Thor And I know she has defeated him before but what about wonder woman magic wonder woman defeated Thor and Diana has more magic and yeah I can keep going to @IMABATMAN42
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Thor *Screaming on the inside* Why do you keep mentioning Death Battle?!? They do not use even an ounce of factual evidence, literally all they do is say things and expect you to believe them. Look at this for example https://goo.gl/images/KtLsNE if you zoom in on Goku's base speed it is actually greater than it is in SS1, proof that Death Battle did their calculations wrong. Yeah Diana has magic, not projectile magic, like Thor's but she has a magic weapon, that can, wait for it, CUT THROUGH KRYPTONIAN'S. http://imgur.com/a/xOBXe
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Thor πŸ˜¦πŸ”« i have no other people left to try and stump you i give up but wait a second this match isn't about Canon this is about overall but your opinion is yours my opinion there hahahahahahaha i enjoyed debating with you my friend πŸ˜€πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜
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Thor Wait a second you just said something that means I win you said Diana atom sword cuts through kryptonians just like can barbarians and other beings that means superman can lobotomize Thor and win
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Thor Actually the sword didn't cut superman throat Diana's bracelet did and also I meant asgardians
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Superman Actually there is no noncannon Superman anymore, rebirth we get to see pre-flashpoint Clark Kent return.
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Thor 😀😰😣πŸ˜₯πŸ˜£πŸ˜§πŸ˜±πŸ˜²πŸ˜΅πŸ˜·πŸ‘» i give up this debate is driving me nuts i can't take it no more y'all no more than I in comic books and I just give upπŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜„πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜
remy94
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Superman Lol
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Thor Lmao I just can't keep debating I'm going so I don't know as much but come on I'm not stupid i know their common and uncommon known powers Thor has been seen dead by deadpool so I'm just done debating about this match
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Thor Ok you're not thinking about the time the heat vision would take to reach Thor, by then Thor would have moved, quite a bit actually. Superman will have no choice but to fight him head on, a fight that he will eventually lose. Also, when has Superman ever used this ability, other than that one movie.
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Thor I'm a couple comics actually but I don't remember the names but I remember reading them and also be has done this on doomsday and since superman has the strength advantage what if he holds Thor down to do it
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Thor On my God I just saw a comic book that ultrama n lifted the book by himself but still what about a black hole he's held one with his hands and black holes by my knowledge are infinit e density
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Thor @IMABATMAN already proved to you that the black hole Superman was holding was just a speck of a full sized one
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Thor Superman has lifted INFINITY AND ETERNITY HE HAS DESTROYED PLANETS BEFORE AND HAS HELD A BLACK HOLE BEFORE SUPERMAN HAS SURVIVED MAGIC ATTACKS FROM BEINGS WAY MORE POWERFUL THAN THOR
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IMABATMAN42
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Thor First off, the black hole Superman was holding was a SPECK, a SPECK that he was struggling to hold, a SPECK that only had the gravitational pull of a small planet, at most. Oh, look, here's Thor breaking out of a gravitational pull the same as a neutron star,
http://imgur.com/PnBvsUE.
He took magical attacks from beings more powerful than Thor, when exactly? The Eternity feat wasn't Infinite weight, as when Spectre fell, I believe it was Spectre, he did not destroy the Earth. This could've happened for two reasons that I can think of, one gravity doesn't affect Eternity the same as it does other things, or two Eternity's weight isn't Infinite, either way Superman did not lift Infinite weight. With the Infinite book you could say the exact same, as it was floating in the air, so you know gravity doesn't work the same on it.
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Thor Superman and Wonder Woman failed to stop Spectre from falling to the Earth and Superman DID NOT lift the Book of Infinite Pages. It was ULTRAMAN who lifted it
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Thor So I've been lied to cause variant comics and screwattack has said that so it was ultraman and shazam that lifted the book of infinite pages
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Thor No. The first attempt was indeed by Superman and Shazam who couldn't even budge the book. Fanboys just like to twist what the comic conveys to fit their fanboyistic desires. That is the only reason you hear people say Superman lifted an infinite amount of weight. However, the second attempt was by Ultraman who managed to actually carry the book to the Ultima Thule, a task Superman and Shazam were physically incapable of doing
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Thor K thought you guys were done but remember Imabatman superman can focus on the flash moving faster than light speed Thor normally can not to faster than light on earth
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Thor Superman has never hit the Flash with his heat vision, it's just not fast enough. And everyone keeps saying that Superman can dodge Thor's Godblast, but Thor can do the same to Superman's heat vision, as they are both a one direction beam. Superman also doesn't go faster than light on the Earth, as it would destroy it.
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Thor But he has and God blast against superman mega heat vision who's power is better also what about lobotomy wouldn't that harm the God of thunder
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Thor Of course that wouldn't harm Thor. Anyone with basic knowledge on Thor would know this
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Superman Anyone with actual knowledge of these characters, would know that attack would severely harm Thor.
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Thor Prove it
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Superman Okay, what comic is Thor able to heal any part of his brain?
SirSpidey
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Thor Thor has never needed to. Nothing has proven to be able to even harm his brain physically
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Superman Until now
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Thor Prove it
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Superman Prove me wrong
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Thor I asked you first
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Superman Superman can use this attack, now you need prove that it won't work on Thor
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Thor Okay, let me repeat myself, a theme that is very common with you @remy94, nothing has proven to be able to even harm Thor's brain physically. So try again
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Superman And I said until now, @SirSpidey because there is no reason this attack isn't going to harm Thor
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Thor Shall I repeat myself again? Unless Superman is more powerful than three Celestials combined, Superman's cute little lasers ain't gonna do shit to Thor. Lol, "there is no reason this attack wouldn't hurt Thor." Whatever kid
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Thor Remy Sirspidey shut up theirs no reason to arguing on here like this there kids on this site
Sirspider superman lasers do pierce beings like Thor and Thor is not as powerful as 3 celestial and stop being jerks to each other
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Thor Prove it
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Thor @SirSpidey just stop your going to get yourselves kicked off the server just stop
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Thor Why and how?
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Thor Imabatman not Jonathan
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remy94
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Superman This battle could very well be over before it began, Superman could just lobotomize Thor just by looking at him. "Heat vision focused through your pupil like a scalpel, instant lobotomy" -Superman
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Thor And I forgot about that Remy message Imabatman this he will go hysterical πŸ˜€
IMABATMAN42
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Thor Heat vision has never been shown to work on anyone with high durability, comparable to Superman, to my knowledge.
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Superman It doesn't really matter if the characters have high durability, Sups can still focus his heat vision through their pupils.
IMABATMAN42
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Thor Your basically forgetting that they'll both be zipping around the battle field, and Superman won't have time to focus his heat vision, if he's constantly getting pounded into the ground by Thor, at Mach speeds.
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Superman You're kinda selling Superman short here. The guy has dealt with characters who are Massively FTL+ in speed.
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Superman The fact that Superman is many times faster than Thor, means he won't be the one getting pounded into the ground.
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Thor I can agree I'm selling him a bit short, but what I meant is that Superman won't be able to concentrate with Thor fighting him, on near equal terms at very fast speeds. Labotomy would not work. So he would have to resort to a physical battle, one that, in time, he would lose thanks to his disadvantage, he is "weak" to magic.
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Superman I'm pretty sure during some point in the battle these two characters are going to make eye contact. Plus as long as Superman has sunlight, magic isn't going to effect him.
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Thor Actually magic does effect superman in day just not as much
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Thor Actually magic does effect superman in day just not as much
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Superman In the New 52 Shazam's magic had absolutely no effect on Superman, but even if Thor was able to harm Sups, he'll just heal instantly.
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Thor Dude, you're wanking Superman to oblivion, I mean the dude struggled to destroy the shadow moon, which is only a star level feat. Besides, and this is a major plot hole, Thor could just destroy the sun. Speaking of that, why have none of Superman's villains destroyed the sun, just to get rid of Superman?
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Superman Superman has a lot greater feats than destroying a moon, Clark has destroyed entire dimensions, and has held a black hole in his hands. Even if Thor was capable of destroying the sun (Which he wouldn't because that would be the end of earth) Sups could very well instantly fly to the first star he sees.
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Thor @IMABATMAN42 Are you seriously using Superman's Shadow Moon feat as his greatest feat? You're only trying to lowball Superman so you can suck off Goku.
But I still think Thor's more powerful, far stronger and almost as fast, Thor supported infinite weight, Superman has only done that due to misinterpretation of books, the infinite pages are not infinite because they take up a space, Eternity is a measure of time, no weight.
IMABATMAN42
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Thor Yeah, I know Shadow Moon isn't his best feat, it's actually one of his worst, and that's why I bring it up in my arguments, as the force of him doing that, KNOCKED HIM OUT. And he struggled, struggled, to do that, a star level feat, he struggled to accomplish a star level feat. While Thor is easily Solar System+, and Goku is easily universal+.
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Thor Tell me what rest has Thor lifted infinity and also superman has supported infinity an eternity superman beats hulk Thor goku saitama and avenger why would Thor be stronger than superman and he is no we're close superman has faced to a distant star and back i n about 10 b notes Thor has not Thor relies on teleportation so MMH can beat Thor keep it coming I can do this all day
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Thor Unless Superman is more powerful than three Celestials combined, Superman's cute little lazers ain't going to do shit to Thor. Also, @remy94, when did Superman destroy a dimension?
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Superman Actually I think it was time and space that Superman shattered, during the Infinity Crisis
SirSpidey
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Thor Which issue?
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Superman Not entirely sure, haven't read it in a while.
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Thor Oh, so you are just assuming. Thanks for proving your argument is solely your own opinion
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Superman I'm not assuming anything it did happen I'm just not entirely sure what comic it's in in.
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Thor "Not entirely sure, haven't read it in a while."
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Superman how does that mean I'm assuming everything?
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Thor You can't even provide for me the comic from where you got your argument. Therefore, how are you not assuming?
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Superman Do I need to repeat it again Infinity Crisis!
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Thor Do I need to repeat myself again!? Which issue?
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Thor Ok I guess Jonathan is offline so I'll debate with y'all and Remy superman won't lose to God blast because juggernaut just shook God blast off and superman durability is better than juggernauts and stas Thor has more experience superman has like 20 years while Thor ha s thousands of years thank you very much πŸ˜‰
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Thor Unless Superman is more durable than Galactus, Superman has zero chance of surviving the God Blast. Also, the only reason Juggernaut survived the God Blast was because he had a mystical barrier protecting him. Lastly, what is your evidence to suggest that Superman has more durability than Juggernaut?
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Thor He has survived darkseid lasers which surpass God blast by alot
SirSpidey
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Thor Prove it
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Thor For one darkseid lasers can erase God's can kill people instantaneously and also the only people to survive the omega be ams are superman and doomsday the only reason doomsday survived is because of his immortality darkseid has even blasted galactus so just stop prove it your really annoying me with you and @remy 94 fighting its just annoying so just stop alright this is meant for fun ok
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Thor While Darkseid's Omega Beams can be resisted by Superman, Doomsday, and immortals, the God Blast has only been resisted by one being, the Celestial named Exitar The Executioner. The God Blast also obliterates immortals, unlike the puny Omega Beams
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Thor Actually the omega beams do kill immortals i said doomsday because you know him he survived from nothing and also doomsday beats Thor darkseid beams has killed immortals before and hurt beings like that celestial like Galactus who easily is more powerful than a celestial Thor in the Thor vs darkseid battle his own brother the Highfather i think his name is his fellow old gods and he's laser beams shattered lantern barrier like it was nothing is laser beams are also faster than Thor s God blast they can hit the flash of it was little faster and also darkseid has shot anti monitor with the beams and severely hurt him even though he got killed omega force is better than Odin force
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Thor Lol, your logic is painful to deal with. I honestly don't even want to try and rebuke everything you said. It would be too much of a hassle considering how much of it is incredibly wrong
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Superman Well after seeing Superman tank one of Shazam's lightning bolts with little to no real pain, I'd wager Superman most likely has this one. Both are Solar-System level fighters, but Superman has edge in intelligence and experience, and his power kit is much more flexible than Thor. Thor's God Blast is potentially Multi-Solar System in power, but I won't count it since there is barely much info on its actual power.
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Stas
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Superman Not to mention the God Blast does leave Thor open for quite some time, and Superman can most definitely react to the God Blast in time.
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Thor Barely much information on the God Blast!? We have enough information to know that it easily destroys beings like Galactus, a more powerful version of Odin, Surtur, and hurts Celestials like Exitar The Executioner. If instant teleporters can't react to the God Blast, Superman of course can't
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Thor Ok thank you and go to the flash vs sonic page i have some more debating to do haha😁😁😁😁😁
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Thor Remy94 i forget you actually right but imabatman shazam has very powerful magic that's where his power comes from not form his physical power he has the magic of the gods i forg ot so I do not submit haha haha I still can win the debate πŸ˜‰
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Superman As I've said before, the only way Thor wins this fight is by using the god blast, and that's only if he manages to hit Superman.
SirSpidey
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Thor Thanks for confirming my suspicion that you and Spectre94 are one in the same person. Well done πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
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Superman We are not I probably just remember reading his comment, and thought I was the one who said it, I do agree with his comments though.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24338 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Yeah, okay. Whatever you say you fraud
remy94
remy94 1 y and 24301 m
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Superman Well think whatever you want, spectre94 was my brother
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24282 m
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Thor Whatever you say fraud
remy94
remy94 1 y and 24263 m
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Superman I don't mind if you disrespect me, because you do it all the time. But if you are going to disrespect my brother then you and I are going to have problems.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24254 m
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Thor You mean your second account, right?
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y and 24218 m
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not voted @SirSpidey Not saying remy94 is spectre94, (I don't wanna get involved) but is there really anything wrong with having a 2nd account? It's only a problem if they start using it to their advantage
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24201 m
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Thor Well, you get more votes, you can team up on people, and not to mention it is morally questionable especially when you claim it isn't your 2nd account
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y and 24192 m
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not voted I agree on that last part but it really doesn't bother me if he uses two accounts on big battles like this because it doesn't really make a difference, but if he started double voting on smaller battles or he has more than 2 accounts then I have a problem.
remy94
remy94 1 y and 24093 m
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Superman It's disrespectful
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 23093 m
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Thor Disrespectful my ass. You just can't take criticism to save your life
remy94
remy94 1 y and 22478 m
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Superman If you think he's not my brother then go right ahead and think that, it doesn't really matter to me either way.
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 22465 m
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Thor Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 22465 m
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Thor Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 22465 m
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Thor Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 22465 m
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Thor Yo @remy94 i know @Sirspidey is disrespecting your brother and all but before that what s your best with him maybe I can talk to him because he is really starting to annoy me
remy94
remy94 1 y and 22449 m
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Superman @Darth_Doom I wouldn't bother, I've been debating with this guy for quite some time, he has very little respect, it will just end up coming back at you.
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 22439 m
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Thor Alright I'm was only going to do that because I like the way you debate @SirSpidey is just one of those guys who think people don't know nothing maybe we can try talking to @Galactus try to get him to shut @SirSpidey up because I'm sick of him and I've seen the comments he's wrote to you he s just a spoiled brat
remy94
remy94 1 y and 22425 m
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Superman Well thanks for your support, I think once @Galactus starts to see that everyone is having a problem with him, he'll probably do something about it.
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SidebarTwist 1 y and 22422 m
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Thor @Darth_Doom thank you, I was waiting for someone to say that.
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SidebarTwist 1 y and 22417 m
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Thor @Darth_Doom I dont know if spoiled is the word I would use to describe him, but he definitely has questionable social skills too.
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 22410 m
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Thor Thank you I just got sick of him he is so disrespectful to people and someone has to put a stop to him I'm just sick of it so what if @remy94 has a second account it's not going to hur t nobody can you tell me how to talk to galactus please
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SidebarTwist 1 y and 22401 m
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Thor Exactly.
remy94
remy94 1 y and 22394 m
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Superman Forum, General conversation or you'll have to wait until he gets on, and then private message him. It was my brothers account, but even if it was me, which it wasn't, I'm obviously not using it to get ahead on anything.
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 22341 m
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Thor Yeah thank you and can @Galactus kick @SirSpidey off and I believe you I just don't understand this website was made for the fun of debating and learning not disrespecting people and cussing them out I mean I'm going and I've told people that @SirSpidey just doesn't care
jongensoden
jongensoden 1 y and 20190 m
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Thor disrespectfull my ass 😁 hahaha
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 19184 m
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Thor @jongensoden: I thought it was funny too. It is a shame most of these people take this site way too seriously
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 19141 m
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Thor @remy94: If it didn't really matter to you, you wouldn't be responding to my comments. The only reason it always comes back at you is because I am always in the right. If I wasn't always correct, there would be nothing to come back at you, but no, you always refuse to be wrong. It is one of your greatest downfalls. The only reason everyone has a problem with me is because I don't sugarcoat shit. So what if I cuss, it's not like it is wrong. It would only be wrong if I were to curse at people, something I try very hard not to do. Your not using your second account to get ahead on anything!? Are you serious? In the past, you have ganged up on me with your second account. So don't lie to us and say you haven't done anything wrong. Lastly, please explain to me how me accusing you of having a second account equates to me disrespecting you. It honestly makes zero sense to me
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 19118 m
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Thor @SirSpidey i would like to apologize me and @remy94 said stuff no better than you we disrespecting you as well trying to get you kicked off the server i am sorry
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 19108 m
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Thor @Darth_Doom: Really? You have been here for 13 days and already trying to kick someone off? I'm going to take it easy on you considering you are only 13, but you seriously need to watch yourself. Not only am I moderator, but I have been doing this same exact thing for 2 years and as of yet have had zero problems with @Galactus. The opinion of a little kid like you is not anywhere close to that of the creator of this entire website
Bbq444
Bbq444 1 y and 19099 m
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Superman Sirspidey have you ever had a problem in your life that was conflicting you while you was off this site and facing this problem in the real world?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 19097 m
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Thor @Darth_Doom: Apology accepted. I am sorry if I angered you in any way. It is just not my cup of tea to sugarcoat things
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 19085 m
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Thor @Bbq444: No. Why?
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 19080 m
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Thor Ok and I'm not really thirteen I'm 19 i just tell people that so they don't mess with me and no you didn't anger me I just didn't like you and remy94 fighting it was pretty annoying and also I wasn't really trying to get you kicked off the server i was trying to get you to be quiet but are we cool because I definitely don't want to get kicked off the server but truce
P.s do you want to debate some more I've done more research on the characters
Bbq444
Bbq444 1 y and 19078 m
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Superman Sometimes I meet with these people whether they have a reason why they have a conflict, I have a conflict for myself today everytime I go to school I would always have something that would be bothering me like people trying to stare at me while my head is down like I always do since I have autism-Aspergers and other times that happen to me is when there's a lot of noise everytime I go to a classroom and they would never be quiet it happens everyday to me and so sometimes I like to be mean to people that's why.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 19058 m
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Thor @Darth_Doom: What kind of research have you been doing? Comic book research or internet research?
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 19049 m
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Thor Internet but I'm not going to give you bull this time I'll make sure on the view comics website I'll try to be as accurate as possible
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 19024 m
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Thor @Bbq444: Hey man, you be you no matter what people may think. Yes, people are extremely annoying and even clueless at times, but they are still human. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes, but we as a human race need to try our hardest to love each other. As Jesus once said, "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." I think this verse from the Bible perfectly applies to your current situation. So that is my advise. Now it is up to you what you do with it
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TheCarnage 1 y and 19018 m
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Thor @SirSpidey, Very well said man I may not be religious but that was a nice quote.
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SidebarTwist 1 y and 19006 m
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Thor @SirSpidey That is probably the most bad ass thing I have ever seen you type on this site. I have a close friend with similar obstacles as @Bbq444 and he struggles with similar things. I am going to share your comment with my friend, because I think it sends a very powerful message.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 18987 m
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Thor @Darth_Doom: Alright, lets hear it
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 18977 m
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Thor @TheCarnage and @SidebarTwist: Thank you. I thought it was the appropriate thing to say. We all could benefit from what I said.......even me, lol
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TheCarnage 1 y and 18968 m
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Thor @SirSpidey Again very well said we all have our faults and can learn to become better as individuals each day.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 18961 m
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Thor Agreed
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 18946 m
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Thor Alright this is my last time trying i know this is probably bull but I'm going to try it anyway it said superman has pushed Thor s hammer back with Thor pushing on it and it said Thor with out the hammer is slower than wolverine with is little F TL and I'll send you the site i saw I t on https://www.quora.com/Who-would-win-in-a-fight-between-Thor-and-Superman
If you find a way to debunk that I have no way of getting around I'll just simply change my vote i should give up
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27382 m
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Thor Yeah but he took Trigon punches which like you said is multi galactic levels so Thor once again magic should not hurt superman as much as you think actually after you messAge I'll go see about thor s magic so I understand better cause I like Thor but I don't actually know a lot about him so I'll research him a bit more and also my fave hero is the flash also how wins flash of sonic the hedge hog
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27366 m
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Thor Was this in the movie? Because if so it's not canon, but I'll attempt to debunk it anyway. So, Trigon's power could reach multi-galactic scales, yes, but his physical strength, while being impressive, isn't comparable to blows from Thor's hammer, which has caused beings like The Hulk, who have comparable durability to Superman, under normal circumstances, that is, because of Superman's "weakness" to magic he is more susceptible to Thor, than say someone of equal durability, such as The Hulk.
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27365 m
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Thor Ok I done some more research it said that most of Thor magic comes from the belt and goe s to the hammer his other magic he has very hard time using it but I don't know how cause that research was of a post almost 8 years so I submit Thor can beat superman i can't get around any other corner apparently you t more into heroes than I am and that is way something because I watch imaginary axis variant comics and tons other comics stuff but you have to be right cause you actually have a reasonable point and I'm surprised normally I'm a very stubborn person but you are right my friend also is the r a way I can message you privately on this site
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27353 m
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Thor Superman would have a very good chance of winning, if magic hadn't been one of his "weaknesses", because they are near physical equals. Oh and yes you can message me, just go to my account, click on messages and type something. Note: I don't really check my messages that often, but I'll try and look at them more. πŸ‘
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24418 m
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Thor How does Superman even have somewhat of a chance against Thor?
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 24381 m
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Thor He doesn't, but if magic hadn't been one of Superman's weaknesses, well, there's a possibility, I'd actually say without the magic weakness it would go 50/50.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24317 m
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Thor How though? Thor is factually a smarter fighter, stronger, faster, vastly more durable, etc. Prove to me Superman would win even if Thor didn't have magic
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27398 m
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Thor He actually has have you watched justice league vs teen titans i mean superman didn't actually hurt Trigon but still Trigon dark magic is more powerful than thors and also darkseid actually does possess some magic it's just not well known and cosmic is another form of somewhat magiclike even though it isn't a weakness to superman
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27390 m
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Thor I haven't actually watched it yet, but either way Superman still gets completely stomped, because Trigon is like, multi-galaxy level, possibly higher.
remy94
remy94 1 y and 27378 m
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Superman Superman has taken the magical lighting blast from a very ticked off Shazam, and survived with no
Physical damage at all.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27362 m
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Thor Shazam, while being very powerful, is more of a physical based character, and isn't much of a "powerhouse", that is to say his magical prowess isn't very impressive.
remy94
remy94 1 y and 27347 m
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Superman Shazam's magical abilities all come from gods that are very comparable to Thor, Zeus for example. Plus Thor's magic are mostly for physical enhancement, he's not a spellcaster.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24422 m
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Thor @remy94: In which comic does Superman fight Shazam?
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27412 m
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Thor I'm sorry I meant Trigon not groton
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27412 m
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Thor I'm sorry I meant Trigon not groton
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27431 m
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Thor He has never faced anyone with magic as powerful as Thor's, to my knowledge. To debunk some of your statements, Darkseid no magic, and he still loses to him, Green Lantern no magic, Imperiex no magic, grant it, I don't know much about this character, and current Superman has never faced Anti-Monitor, but Anti-Monitor has no Magic either. Also to give you perspective on how powerful Thor's magic can be, taking a feat from @SirSpidey with this one, he has damaged Galactus before, who is easily galaxy level+. He has also knocked out the Hulk, who has comparable durability to Superman. Oh and thank you, I'm enjoying this too.
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27429 m
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Thor Whoops meant to make that a reply, but it doesn't really matter.
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27414 m
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Thor Ok I give you that but I don't know cause I don't read that many comics but doesn't Groton posses some sort of magic i mean he is a demon and what about shazam magic isn't that as powerful as Thor i know Thor wears his belt of magic but still superman can resist his magic some and I'll ask you this time king Thor or superman prime 1000000 and I don't know if you can but let me know what matches you vote on so I can debate you some more haha haha lolπŸ˜πŸ˜†πŸ˜†
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27405 m
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Thor As far as I know Superman has never fought Trigon, but I'm pretty sure he is a team threat, possibly higher. Lol, I will πŸ˜‚
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27453 m
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Thor I meant mongul
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27456 m
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Thor But still superman has face foes with magic of cosmic power he's faced darkseid shazam green lantern monthly imperiex antimonitor etc Thor magic is powerful i give you that but superman has some resistance to magic and keep coming i like debating with you my friend but tell me just how powerful th ors magic will be against superman please do
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24429 m
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Thor In which comics does Superman fight and defeat these characters?
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27479 m
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Thor Image than what do you mean death battle is not a reliable source and also I done research i was just doing a reference superman is stronger faster more durable and is way more power ful cause actually I like Thor better than superman it's just superman is more powe rful so if you want a debate I'll give you a debate also Thor is ma ybe 30% less popular than superman so tell how does Thor win superman strength is powerful enough to shatter planets punch through space and time so he should be able to wield the hammer or stormbreaker still this isn't about who is more popular it's about who is more powerful so I done research and superman has what it takes to take on Thor the god of thunder so debate if you wantonly just keep coming back at y'all there you go imabatman42
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27466 m
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Thor I mean that, at the time, Wonder Woman was more popular because of her movie, so to not disappoint their many subscribers, they highballed Wonder Woman to make her win. Strength, speed, power, doesn't matter either way, Superman is weak to magic, Thor uses magic, very powerful magic, at that.
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Darth_Doom 1 y and 27760 m
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Thor On people listen this match is putting a God of lightning against an nearly immortal powerful alien superman wins because superman brute strength dims those by a lot i mean Thor couldn't even beat wonder woman on death battle so how in the world is he suppose to beat superman a guy who can beat darkened single handed Thor can't even stand up against thano s so that's my opinion but Thor possibly could do a little bit of damage with his magic but still Superman>Silver surfer>wonder woman>thor>Martian manhunt it's simple so all those people do your research because I have its time for a good battle 😁
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 27529 m
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Thor Death Battle is not a reliable source of information, considering they lowball the character that is less popular and highball the one that is popular. Silver Surfer = Thor > Martian Manhunter > Wonder Woman = Superman, there is only a slight difference in power between all of them, being that they are all about mid/high herald tier.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24441 m
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Thor How is the Silver Surfer the equal to Thor? The closest thing Silver Surfer got to beating Thor was a stalemate. Thor on the other hand has beaten the Silver Surfer two or three times in the past
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banboy38 1 y and 48190 m
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Thor Thor has the Odin Force in his rune king form...he's omnipresent, destruction level is multi-universe scale and has rune magic (reality warping, dimension and energy manipulation etc) among many others ...the only one above him in RK form is the living tribunal....and as for any version of Superman, take away the yellow sun and power slowly starts fading away.... and if kept away from the sun for a considerable amount of time, he becomes like a normal kryptonian on krypton.....plus oh yeah, Kryptonite =P
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DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y and 40893 m
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not voted Most of the stuff you just said were wrong.
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y and 40892 m
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not voted This isn't RK Thor he has his own character
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24517 m
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Thor What he said isn't wrong, it just doesn't apply to this battle. However, the last part of his comment does apply to this battle
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Heep 1 y and 51985 m
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Superman @cw6334 Well... you should have learn this at school.
How old are you ?
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cw6334
cw6334 1 y and 51981 m
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Superman @Heep I'm just trolling dude because all teachers always say it isn't a good source lol
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Heep 1 y and 52021 m
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Superman Voted Sperman because hes faster.
Thor is too much muscles that slow him in a fight.
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TheCarnage 1 y and 52017 m
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Thor Could you a little more in depth? Don't really understand your argument.
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Heep 1 y and 52003 m
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Superman @theCarnage
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy
cw6334
cw6334 1 y and 52000 m
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Superman Um WIkipedia ain't a valid source
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TheCarnage 1 y and 51953 m
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Thor I wanted you to go more in depth about why you have Superman because he's fast and saying Thor is "slow", I wanted to hear your reasoning and I'm not saying you're wrong it's opinionated, I'm just curious.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24522 m
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Thor You aren't going to receive any evidence from someone who votes solely based on who has the better profile picture
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TheCarnage 1 y and 52068 m
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Thor I love this battle, hard to choose
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 24528 m
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Thor Ehh, not really
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Thesuperman 1 y and 53127 m
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Superman Thor's lightning is not a weakness to superman . Even though Thor is God superman can still beat him, he has beaten god's before
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 52660 m
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Thor In which comic?
batsheet
batsheet 1 y and 50740 m
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Superman Superman - Wonder Woman #2, Superman beat Apollo. Not sure if its canon but I'm sure you do.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 49561 m
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Thor Hmm, interesting. It is canon, but Apollo isnΒ΄t comparable to Thor
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Shazammmmm 1 y and 54012 m
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Superman Guys, SUPERMAN DOESN'T HAVE A WEAKNESS AGAINST LIGHTNING. Thor isn't a god, he is a DEMI-GOD. Superman wins this fight easily.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 52657 m
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Thor He does whenever it is magical lightning like ThorΒ΄s. Also, how in the hell is Thor a demi-god?
Creature99
Creature99 1 y and 52654 m
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Thor No Thor is for sure a God not a Demi-God Hercules is Demi-God
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banboy38 1 y and 48249 m
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Thor thor ain't a demi-god dude...he's a pure bred asgardian.... hercules is the one you're looking for, he's a demi-god.
jongensoden
jongensoden 1 y and 48193 m
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Thor and thor can survie fight
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TheTalentedMrWilson 1 y and 63513 m
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Thor Thor is a god
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 63504 m
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Thor Well said
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 66670 m
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Thor I'm surprised that the votes are getting closer and closer. I'm glad to see that people are coming to their senses
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Jakcj
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Superman Your going to have to wait a long time for Thor to be on the green line. Superman is way more popular than Thor that's why.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 66612 m
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Thor If it is going at the rate it is going at right now, I wouldn't have to wait too long
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Mali_Ron_Kenobi9 1 y and 68036 m
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Superman Superman has taken beating from magic users and still ends up beating the snot out of them, he's beaten people who've used kryptonite and red sun radiation which are bigger weaknesses than magic. The MCU has given Thor a lot of momentum recently so I get the hype and he's a great character, but if you think Thor's magic gives him advantage then you're dead wrong I'm sorry. I also saw someone say Thor has faster reflexes, I thought that was hilarious, he tagged quicksilver, so what? Superman has tagged the flash on multiple occasions and flash is significally faster than quicksilver.
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TheGrimLemur 1 y and 70558 m
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Thor what you superman voters are forgettin is thate superman is weak to magic wich thor can use therfor thor has the combat skill and one of supermans weaknesses
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Corvus_Glaive 1 y and 70669 m
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Superman Thor allowed him to lift the hammer but certainly Odin considers Superman worthy to use the hammer as has been seen in other circumstances anyhow. Superman only just barely beat Thor. It was a close fight and both admitted it could have gone either way. I see this as a VERY VERY close battle but imo Supes takes it
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 66701 m
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Thor That comic is not canon
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
CaptainAmericaTakesAll 1 y and 72704 m
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Superman They already fought, and the outcome is obvious. Superman tossed the goddess of thundering farts off his high horse and served him some humble pie.
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_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 1 y and 72684 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Where's your evidence for that? And don't even think about using that non-canon s**t as evidence! It may be canon in the DC verse, but it sure as hell isn't in the Marvel verse.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 66695 m
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Thor He has zero evidence to suggest Superman wins except a non-canon comic book. I bet he doesn't even know in which comic Thor and Superman fought
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
CaptainAmericaTakesAll 1 y and 72716 m
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Superman I am going to explode if someone doesn't tell me the "facts" @SirSpidey says their are, because in my opinion there are no "facts".
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_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 1 y and 72688 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Okay, Thor:
Lifted the Midgard Serpent.
Tagged Quicksilver.
KO'd the Phoenix Force.
Shattered planets.
Survived a planet busting bomb.
Endured 17 days of torture.
Destroyed a helicopter while depowered.
Defeated Juggernaut, Silver Surfer, Iron Man, & Hulk.
Escaped a Black Hole.
And btw, it's "says THERE are". Are you gonna explode or what?
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Just read almost every comment I have posted if you want evidence
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not voted I've noticed that most of the comments are supporting Thor, and not a lot are supporting Superman and this leads me to believe the fact the people that voted Superman are fanboys with 1-3 people with knowledge and proof that Superman would win.
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CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I honestly take this as an insult because me and @Durge1 have been defending Superman in this battle for a long time.
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Superman @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Tbh I have tons of respect for you and @Durge1 for defending your choice in this fight, but still @DarkProdigy has a point, there are few comic fans that know what they're talking about like you sticking up for Superman and lots for Thor
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Lol, you call referencing a non-canon comic book over and over again "defending Superman"? PATHETIC. If you would actually have a debate with me, maybe we could settle some things. Instead of saying the same thing over and over again
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Superman I'm surprised so many people voted for thor, I thought it'd be obvious, superman is a decent bit stronger, a decent bit more durable, has many different abilities, and is... better at flying? Idk, thor often needs his hammer to fly, superman can fly on his own. I'm talking about at their normal strength levels by the way.
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SirSpidey
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Thor The facts say differently
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Esh4N 1 y and 82057 m
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Thor Thor is a better fighter and his hammer is much stronger than superman punch can ever be. Thor's lightning is also much stronger than Superman's laser beams. Plus, Thor has taken hits from people much stronger than him, he can take a beating!
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Armani12 1 y and 94891 m
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Thor Thor has better combat.
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SirSpidey
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Thor Yes he does
IMABATMAN42
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Thor I always assume that Thor and Superman are about physical equals, but the reason Thor would win is because he can use magic, and has more power output.
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jongensoden
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Thor thor also has faster reflexes
SirSpidey
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Thor Thor is vastly physically superior to Superman
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Oh, vastly superior. You might want to check into an Asylum soon.
SirSpidey
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Thor Keep denying the facts
_Holy_Joe_
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Insults ain't gonna help ya, kid
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I don't see your point. They fought. Thor lost. Take your crying elsewhere.
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jongensoden
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Thor thor can heal from everything superman does
remy94
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Superman They can both heal from each others attacks.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman "His dense molecular structure will make virtually impenetrable, goodbye my little Kal." Gur El
jongensoden
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Thor round 1 is without using powers thir wins he is a better fighter
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Thor i mean thor and he is invincible to supermans punches
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Superman Superman is strong enough to severely harm Thor with his punches
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Thor thor can shock him electricity
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Superman Superman has taken magical lightning from Shazam and wasn't even fazed by it.
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Thor but thor controls stronger lighting
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Superman Shazam controls the lightning of Zeus
jongensoden
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Thor tho has asgardian senses he will winn
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Superman Asgardian senses being?
jongensoden
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Thor he can fly faster than superman can
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Superman Superman can react and move faster
jongensoden
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Thor superman has weakneseses thor not he has invulnerability
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Superman Yes Superman is vulnerable to Kryptonite but other than that he is virtually invulnerable, and Kryptonite won't be a factor in this fight.
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Thor thor is older and has more knowledge
remy94
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Superman Not arguing with you there, but Superman has genius level intelligence
jongensoden
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Thor supermans weakness is also magic and thor has a magic weapon
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Superman It isn't a big enough weakness to stop him
jongensoden
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Thor is this thor with odin force if this is thor wins in seconds
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: My point is you can't use the crossovers in a debate because they are not canon
SirSpidey
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Thor @remy94: Unless Superman has the combined power of three Celestials, Superman is not going to harm Thor with his punches
jongensoden
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Thor and thor is immune to everyhting superman does
jongensoden
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Thor and thor has a better stamina
_Holy_Joe_
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Thor @jongensoden Thor has god-like stamina! He fought an army of Frost Giants for 9 months without tiring, and an army of undead for 40 days and 40 nights straight, spent 9 months without ever sleeping after losing Mjolnir, and gave Malekith a beating after his liver got transmuted into a mangle of broken glass. It's far superior to any ordinary Asgardian, who can live for 5 minutes after losing their hearts.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I am sorry, but this battle has already been done. Clark beat the cocky, overrated goddess of thundering farts. Not to mention he also lifted the hammer, and used its power.
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SirSpidey
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Thor That is not canon, as I have said about a million times
_Holy_Joe_
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Don't even use that non-canon s**t as evidence! It may be canon in the DC verse, but it sure as hell isn't in the Marvel verse.
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Thor supes is weak against magic. thor 7-8/10 times
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windshadow
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Thor my bad. this has happened in the jla/avengers crossover. supes won. supes 6/10 times.
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Thor Really? You do know that crossovers aren't canon, if they were, Venom would be more powerful than Superman.
TheSuspect666
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Superman @CaptainAmericaTakesAll its question for Spidey or me?
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Superman I think superman will win because he has proven to be stronger and more powerful than Thor and he is more durable
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SirSpidey
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Thor When has Superman ever proven this?
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Fighting Darkseid.
SirSpidey
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Thor One, in which comic. Two, Darkseid is not that powerful, for Superman to draw against him is not that big of an accomplishment
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Superman Superman wins this. Superman is far stronger than thor, faster by light years and infinitely smarter. And for the record, marvel has stated that asgardians are an advanced race of being that have mastered both magic and science and have been able to combine the two. But are worshipped as gods. So they are no more godlike than superman who came from a world that was scientifically advanced. Superman would realize the threat the hammer poses and he would easily avoid its attacks. Unlike thor he is capable of faster than light combat speeds that would leave thor unable to touch him. Combine that with strength far greater than Thors, heat vision, and freeze breath and he wins, but not easily. Also thor's hammer is imbued with magic which allows it to summon attacks like lightning, portals.....etc. The hammer itself isn't magical, therefore the lightning it summons is just that, lightning. Which doesn't hurt superman. And for the record, everyone is susceptible to magic, unless they are magic resistant, lol. Super man is fast enough to track objects travelling at light speed, such as Mjolnir. which would give him the ability to dodge or catch it. The hulk has defeated thor despite thor wielding the hammer, and the hulk is just brute strength. Superman is far stronger than the hulk, smarter, faster and more versatile, I just don't see thor winning.
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Spiderguy257 1 y and 142740 m
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Superman Superman
Bbq444
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Superman Quitting Superherodatabase not logging back on ever again I think this base is just boring to me but it's just my opnion so see you guys whoever knew me.
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mirkojr147258369 1 y and 168348 m
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Thor yo
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Thor If you pick thor you actually read comics
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CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman If you pick Superman, you actually know what real superhero is.
SirSpidey
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Thor Thor isn't a mere superhero. Thor is a god
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Then Superman is a supergod.
SirSpidey
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Thor Superman's heritage says differently
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman What lineage, piwf.
SirSpidey
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Thor Superman's
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman PIWF!!!!!
SirSpidey
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Thor Deny it all you want, but those are the facts
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman What facts? The FACT is, this is never ending loop of debate. PIWF!!!!!
SirSpidey
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Thor The fact that Superman is a mere alien. This is not a debate. This is you being a fanboyistic retard
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Oooooooh! I think thats the term everyone uses when referring to you.
SirSpidey
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Thor I'm a fanboyistic retard because I use facts? What does that make you?
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman A super fanboyistic jock who surfs this website like, shaun white on a snowboard.
SirSpidey
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Thor Lol, way to roast yourself
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman And your a Fanboyistic serf, who crawls around like a lemming, yelling at everyone, saying PIWF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SirSpidey
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Thor WTF? That's a really good description of yourself
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Oh, me, I am much to cool to be debating a mere serf like you.
TheSuspect666
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Superman Superman is not a god but he defeat a god
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Before you insult me again, I have a friendly question.
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Yeah you, can you not read, you illiterate troll? Only a fanboy would say something like that
SirSpidey
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Thor @TheSuspect666: When has Superman ever defeated a god?
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman As I said, before you insult me again, I have a friendly question
TheSuspect666
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Superman @SirSpidey Darkseid
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman My question is what is more powerful, the Stormbreaker Axe or Mjolnir.
SirSpidey
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Thor One, Superman has never defeated Darkseid. Two, Darkseid is a mere alien
TheSuspect666
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Superman @SirSpidey mere alien??? I think you never read DC comics and you know nothing so stop writting bullshits
TheNemianLion
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Thor Darkseid is a new God, he is a legitimate God dude, more powerful than an old god such as Zeus or Thor, but Superman CAN NOT normally beat Darkseid alone with any enhancements or sun dips, etc.
SirSpidey
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Thor @TheSuspect666 and @TheNemianLion: Well clearly ya'll don't know the origin of Darkseid. The comics depict Darkseid as being a Mud-Grubber, or in other words, a freaking farmer. He was a mere alien from an unknown planet who stole the powers of some supposed gods and then became kinda powerful. He does not have a heritage as a true god like Thor does. So stop saying Darkseid is a god. He may be a New God, but that is not a god. New Gods are just a race of aliens
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: One, Stormbreaker is a hammer. Two, Mjolnir has proven to be much, much more powerful
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Thor My god, the both of you. Unlike what I see from both of you, I know both sides like the back of my hand. And I can say, Superman, isn't nearly as powerful as people claim to believe. And Thor, he's sometimes underestimated.
First: Darkseid is a 5th-dimensional god, who Superman would never be able to fight his true form (All he fights is Darkseid's avatars)
Second: Thor is a god, and Superman isn't. That doesn't mean much though, as Superman has fought and beaten gods before.
Third: Superman is only slightly physically stronger, but Thor is much more powerful and has far more experience when it comes to fighting. (did you say Thor is stupid? He's extremely intelligent, he may as well be a genius for humans, he's had thousands of years to learn)
Fourth: Speed, Slowdinson isn't a thing. Thor is AT LEAST the speed of light, he tends not to use this speed unless he needs it.
Fifth: @CaptainAmericaTakesAll If you can actually come up with a good argument, and not be a hypocrite than I can discuss this with you.
Sixth: @SirSpidey I understand that you like Thor, but to me, you've proven to me you don't know very much about DC (And you don't seem to know too much about Thor either)
Final: Thor's combination of magic, strength, power, and skill would outmatch Superman (Unless it's on Earth, cause Thor ALWAYS holds back on Earth, in fact, Thor almost killed Hulk with one blow when he forgot to hold back)
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Thor Edit: @SirSpidey Ahh, I was wrong about you not knowing about Thor, but I was right about DC. (Why can't they add an edit button to the comments?)
SirSpidey
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Thor Dude, shut up before you piss me off
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Thor @SirSpidey Are you talking to me? Or the Superman fanboy?
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Thor You, the person who thinks he knows his shit but obviously doesn't
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Thor @SirSpidey One question, how do I not know my stuff? Cause I know more than you do obviously.
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Thor You can say one thing, but actually doing the thing you say is what matters. So far you have proven to me that you are very ignorant
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Thor https://youtu.be/77bKf_fgR7U
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Superman Remove Superman limits. Also, that video used Man of Steel superman? If we're talking about late superman b4 prime, and the latest thor. My money is on Superman.
Thor lost to Red Hulk and was burned badly even at his prime. Summoned a devastating bolt of lighting and even crashed at the speed of lightning into red hulk and barely bruised him. Also, without his hammer, he becomes very weak. Screw that film, the Hammer is still a weapon and a key to dimensions. The red hulk, hulk, vision, shazam, Loki, Angela, Sentry and even Ghostrider either took the hammer or used it against him.
There was even Avengers vs Justice League and Superman won against Thor.
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Superman This battle would go either way, Superman tries to keep Thor's Hammer away from him as he is at a disadvantage. Thor would just use his combat experience on him until he gets his hammer back with his hands, I say this is a tie.
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Superman I am calling @TheOverlord,@Klappy, @SirSpidey, and @batsheet to read this. Guys, really, look around you. Why would you start calling each other names, just because someone doesn't agree with you over who would win in a battle composed of characters that will never make it past a comic book page or a movie, really? C'mon guys, lets have a friendly conversation about this, instead of being a bunch of jerks about it.
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Bbq444
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Superman Calm down there is no really any reason you guys need to start some dumb arguement just try to ignore kids sometimes so you don't have to get so frustrated about it and yeah I told him to shut up that was a mistake I should have ignored that but really if something is making you really mad just try to relax.
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Superman That has been my argument the whole time. I dont know about the rest of you, but i did actually read and listen to what SirSpidey said, and while i still think Superman would win...probably. I now respect Thor a lot more then before, and the battle isn't as one sided in my mind as it was before.
But when one stoops to insults and downplaying others for their own gain, that is too far. We all make mistakes, and slip up sometimes, but if we cant forgive and forget then we are no better then those who we seek to have a civil debate with.
I think most of us have said something that we probably wish we hadn't, but its when we continue to act in such an disrespectful manner that one honestly looses credibility.
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Superman ok so everyone i will explain all of this ok........first, texts can mean different things and depends on how you read it. second I'm not mad nor am i picking on others because i think superman will win .....i do respect thor i do indeed, but my opinion is fact . third in all fairness a little name calling isn't bad, its fun..... grow some, its not that bad..... but yeah we all have superheros in common and wish they were real and mean so much to us. that's why i say what i say....... i could cuss but i don't because that's wrong but i read some of sirspideys comments and it just triggered me because he had huge paragraphs saying false things about my third beloved superhero. this is fact and of course you can disagree (opinion) omg but superman is SHOWN to be stronger. FASTER THAN THOR maybe not his HAMMER, thor has experience but whats experience to Intelligence.
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Thor I will always agree with you about the name calling/insulting. I also think stooping to insults just weakens a persons argument.
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Superman @Bbq444 ...................im calling him out because he thinks he knows all..... i don't know all but i do know somethings like superman will beat thor.
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Superman @sirspidey IM NOT DONE lets talk about the character and what they stand for.......thor yes he is good and will save the day but he is arrogant and thinks he is better than most. superman, truth and justice. let's talk about the background. thor so called God from asgard (prince). Superman home planet destroyed, earth dad died protects a planet with people who criticize him.. with all that power he can chose to be bad but doesn't he lives among the people as one of them to fit in to be apart of them. I like thor but with this fight thor sucks... REALIZE that superman means much more... bro died and came back to life, bro has his own theme song, bro is somewhat limitless. what does thor have..... you like thor right? remember avengers.... yeah your homie got stabbed with a knife. hey did you see ragnarok, yeah the GOD OF THUNDER got smacked with a little lighting. all in all superman is better inside and out and even tho thats movies not comics the truth still stands....... superman has way stronger enemies and Sir SPIDEY Wonder woman can beat thor you goofy!!!!! the real god of thunder is zeus WW papa!!!
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Thor Yet again on SirSpidey's behalf until he arrives I will speak. Yeah they have different backgrounds and yes Superman was supposed to be the story of an immigrant trying to fit in. And Thor is the story of a god learning humility and learning that he isn't better then everyone else just because he is a god. Superman died and came back to life, but so did Thor so that means nothing. Thor's people are doomed to repeat a cycle of destruction and rebirth, so actually krypton was only destroyed once Asgard has been destroyed countless times so that's another point for Thor. They both choose to use their power for good so that also means nothing. Theme song also means nothing, that's mostly a DC thing. Both of them are somewhat limitless so that also means nothing. Thor has a one of the most powerful weapons in comic history, a godly warriors lineage, powerful magical attacks, and the knowledge of battle to easily defeat someone like Wonder Woman. SO nothing you have said proves anything, most of it is so irrelevant it doesn't even deserve to be commented on. Thor still wins you incompetent fool.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Wow, where did the name calling come from? Settle down.
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Thor I'm not usually one for name calling but the way this person talks just infuriates me. Especially since he clearly came here looking to pick a fight but failed to make any logical sense in his argument nor contribute to this debate in any way. So sorry for the name calling but seriously, the guy makes no sense.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Ok, I might agree with you, but thats his problem.
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Superman ok I agree I was just saying superman means more in my opinion. that paragraph was meant to mean nothing just a funny thing to say my bad you took it the wrong way.... " incompetent fool." is that all that's in your vocabulary you need to read more comics because the more you know will show and what i see is a little kid typing thor would win because he saw the avengers....
TheOverlord
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Thor Actually time can vary depending on a plethora of factors and also whichever theory of time you choose to believe in. Some theories state that time is like a river and it would be very hard to go back and fight the current if not impossible. Other theories state that time cannot be traveled back in, regardless of how many times the speed of light you go and yet still other theories state that one would simply have to travel faster then light to go back in time. It is therefore entirely possible that the DC universe and Marvel universe comply to different theories of time and therefore one cannot speculate that speed and time are related in both universes. As to Thor's speed I never stated Thor can move that fast(Unless of course he is holding the hammer when thrown and it drags him across the universe) but this isn't a race, it's a fight. And Thor can swing the hammer fast enough to tag both quicksilver and defeat the Silver Surfer, who is one of the fastest beings in comics. And finally strength. I'll be honest I don't read DC that often(I have read some Batman and some of the newer stuff they have because I honestly kind of enjoy the new 52) so I can't really argue that point of Superman's strength.
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Thor (Seems I commented on the wrong comment that was meant for the lower one my screen is lagging from the amount of responses on this page.) Now as to my insults I would like to apologize for that but still my vocabulary is quite large, however I try my hardest not to insult so forgive me if my insults are not par the course for the internet. And now my comic love. I have been reading the comics for longer then you have been alive, and I loved the Xmen and the Avengers far before Marvel started their cinematic universe. Thor is actually among my least favorite avengers to date, I personally Prefer Iron Man or Hulk. I have read hundreds of comics, so no I am quite well versed on the marvel side of things. Are you?
Kl
Klappy 1 y and 217848 m
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Superman @sirspidey if you still can't see that superman can beat thor then lets take it up a notch shall we.....Cosmic armour superman vs rune king thor.............Cosmic armour superman will kill rune king thor no doubt about that (PLOT DEVICE)
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Bbq444
Bbq444 1 y and 217845 m
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Superman Shut up and stop saying Sirspidey all the time he isn't even in you dumbo.
Kl
Klappy 1 y and 217860 m
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Superman @sirspidey im calling you out!
Thor vs superman
you said "Don't debate me unless you are prepared to reference comics as evidence for the things you say. My knowledge is mostly revolved around Thor and Captain America since they are the most interesting Superheros...." "reference comics as evidence" JLa vs avengers crossover..... Superman wins. DON"T YOU DARE SAY CROSSOVERS DON'T COUNT. THEY INDEED DO! IF BOTH SIDES CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS FACT EVEN IF WRITERS STRETCH SOMETHING IF IT IS PUBLISHED IT WILL INDEED BE CONSIDERED FACT!!!!! YOU ALSO SAID "Thor can throw Mjolnir at several times the speed of light and also swing Mjolnir at several times the speed of light while his strength was reduced in half. Mjolnir can also perform complicated maneuvers in the air and change course in mid-flight at the speed of thought. Not only that, but the speed of Thor's hammer transcends both time & space. So, in the "eyes" of Mjolnir, time has no meaning and is stopped completely" IF YOU ARE SO INTELLIGENT tell me what the time barrier is .....DON'T KNOW? well is 10 times the speed of light and super has done that and gone faster than that.... you are so bias about thor you cant see fact!!!!!!!!!!
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batsheet
batsheet 1 y and 217850 m
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Superman I think Spidey is banned or just on a hiatus. But he will LOVE this when he comes back. Thank you friend, you have made my day.
TheOverlord
TheOverlord 1 y and 217651 m
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Thor On SirSpideys behalf for the moment I will say this you incompetent and insufferable fool. I don't often agree with SirSpidey when it comes to Thor's powers, I think he trumps him up a lot and vastly overestimates him, but he isn't wrong in this fight. Yeah, the JLa vs Avengers comics aren't cannon, they were decided by fans and have the same meaning in a real fight as someones fan fiction battle. Believe it or not everything written in comics is not fact, if a company declares a comic not cannon that's it it no longer matters to the main characters storyline. So no, Thor has never actually lost to Superman because they have never fought in a cannon comic series, get over it. Secondly the time barrier in DC may be ten times the speed of light as you say but in marvel it may be different. The fact is time isn't related to speed, so to transcend time means that speed becomes irrelevent which is why Thor can throw his hammer across the entire universe in minutes, which by the way is HUNDREDS OF TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT.
Kl
Klappy 1 y and 217152 m
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Superman ok @theoverlord I agree about it not being cannon. I don't agree that the time barrier is different You are the incompetent and insufferable fool because time barrier is the same every where no matter what. all you said was thors HAMMER not thor his hammer can do that not him self. like I said superman can lift INFINTIY and Eternity has thor ever done that nooooooo. so that means superman is stronger and look this up "fastest superheros ever" will you see thor ....noooo will you see superman yes....
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 218091 m
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Thor Plasmatic and Klappy, you guys are going to have fun with SirSpidey if he comes back. (he's got a thing about the supes v thor topic)
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Kl
Klappy 1 y and 217892 m
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Superman sir spidey is ignorant because he said "Superman can only lift 2.6 octillion tons. Thor is infinitely times stronger than Superman" that it self proves he indeed knows nothing........."Thor is infinitely times stronger than Superman" Thor does not have infinite strength...........Superman Already beat thor just read the comic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thor cant fly without the hammer. thor is not FASTER THAN SUPERMAN SUPERMAN IS MEANT TO BE THE BEST, OVERPOWERED, IN A WAY A GOD. of course others can beat him im not saying that its just in this scenario superman will WINNNNNNN EVERYONE WATCH VARIANT COMICS ON WHY SUPERMAN IS THE MOST POWERFUL HERO!!!!!!!!
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Klappy 1 y and 217882 m
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Superman SUPERMAN CAN LIFT INFINITY AND ETERNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
batsheet
batsheet 1 y and 217866 m
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Superman @Klappy I like you already
PlasmaticPlays
PlasmaticPlays 1 y and 221411 m
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Thor Wow, a matchup between the god of thunder and a godlike alien! A lot of my real life friends would consider Thor to be the winner, and they have reasons that I agree with like the fact that Thor has Mjolnir which is one of the most powerful weapons in comics. Both characters are some of the strongest, in my opinion, Superman is stronger though, if he wanted to he could just punch the whole planet in 2, Thor still has Mjolnir which only Thor or many other Asgardians can lift, Superman, can't lift Mjolnir and Thor can, So that makes Superman have a lower chance of winning. Eventually, you have to come to come to a conclusion, I think Superman could win mainly because Thor doesn't use magic or have any kryptonite!
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Kl
Klappy 1 y and 220762 m
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Superman he does use magic
Kl
Klappy 1 y and 229008 m
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Superman Everyone is dumb.......Thor can't beat superman i don't care what anyone says. superman can lift infinity and eternity. The marvel fan boys always say JL or superman is "OVERPOWERED" which makes no sense because they then say avengers would win. If someone is overpowered THEY ARE OVERPOWERED. They also say thors a god well that doesn't mean he's the god like ToAA. Gods have been known to get killed like ares killed all the gods. and who beat ares......WONDER WOMAN....and who can beat wonder woman.........Superman. one last thing hercules is factually the physically strongest marvel character...and wonder woman has roughed him up before soooo my point exactly on superman is stronger he also is faster (fact), and smarter.......besides SUPERMAN HAS BEATEN THOR BEFORE IN A CROSSOVER AND BEATEN HULK. SUPS has wielded thors hammer and has had caps shield at the same time!!!
TheSuspect666
TheSuspect666 1 y and 234317 m
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Superman Superman rip off Thor in two pieces
Or trow him in black hole or sun
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234205 m
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Thor None of that would work
Martin
Martin 1 y and 237420 m
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Thor Knowledge: Thor
Strength: Superman/don't know much about Thot strength
Speed: Maybe equal
Durability: Thor
Power: Thor
Combat: Thor
Endurance: Thor
Brutality: Thor/warrior madness.
So winner is obviously Thor
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CaptainAmericaTakesAll
CaptainAmericaTakesAll 1 y and 236706 m
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Superman Power: Superman
Endurance: Superman
Speed: Superman
Durability: Superman
Strength: Superman
Combat: Thor
Thor only has one category, sorry but it's true. And I expect @SirSpidey to intervene.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234399 m
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Thor @Martin: Thor can lift the weight of the entire Universe. Superman can only lift 2.6 octillion tons. Thor is infinitely times stronger than Superman
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234326 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: How is Superman more powerful? How does Superman have more endurance? How does Superman have more speed? How does Superman have more durability? How does Superman have more strength?
TheSuspect666
TheSuspect666 1 y and 234322 m
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Superman Superman has more strenght power and speed!!!
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234318 m
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Thor Intelligence: Thor
Strength: Thor
Speed: Thor
Durability: Thor
Power: Thor
Combat: Thor
Endurance: Thor
Brutality: Thor
Versatility: Thor
Equipment: Thor
Experience: Thor
Strategic Mindset: Thor
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And so on
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
CaptainAmericaTakesAll 1 y and 233865 m
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Superman How can Thor fight an army of infinitely smaller Supermen.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 1 y and 72671 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Your logic is so flawed that there's nothing you said that's agreeable.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
CaptainAmericaTakesAll 1 y and 242194 m
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Superman Thor can't destroy galaxies, can't push the weight of the universe, can't run at the speed of light, and most of all, can't beat Superman.
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SirSpidey
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Thor Regular Thor can't destroy Galaxies, but Warriors Madness Thor can easily destroy Galaxies. I have already proved that Thor pushing the weight of the Universe is fact. Why are you denying the facts? I have already proved that Thor running at the speed of light is fact. Why are you denying the facts? I have already proved that Thor beating Superman is fact. Why are you denying the facts? It all come down to one word.....fanboyism
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
CaptainAmericaTakesAll 1 y and 236712 m
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Superman You have not proven any of the so called "facts". If you have proven them, stop being a lazy bum and type the the comic book in which he does these "facts". You have not proven Thor can beat Superman, you just keep saying that you do, and praise Thor. A very poor debating strategy if you ask me, and if my favorite superhero is Captain America, how can I be a fanboy. If anyone is a fanboy here, it is by all means you, @SirSpidey.
TheOverlord
TheOverlord 1 y and 236571 m
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Thor Cap here are some scans of Thor fighting inside the heart of a star, so SirSpidey is correct about Thor easily surviving being thrown into a sun. Supes would have to find some other way to beat Thor. Also Just to add my comment but Supes could never throw Thor into the Sun anyways, Thor can fly in space so if supes threw him he'd come straight back anyways. Anyhow, here are some scans.
https://i.imgur.com/JeqH4bq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HTcFYEV.jpg
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234361 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Since your simple mind cannot just scroll down in the comments section:
- What I Said: "I have already proved that Thor pushing the weight of the Universe is fact"
> Evidence: Thor Volume 1 #494
- What I Said: "I have already proved that Thor running at the speed of light is fact"
> Evidence: Mighty Avengers #34
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234354 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: I have already proven that Thor can beat Superman. Let me just type it all out again for your simple mind:
- First off, Thor has struck down a speeding Quicksilver (Quicksilver can run at light speed) and has claimed to have fought foes faster than him. Thor has been clocked flying at three times the speed of light and is capable of achieving speeds far greater than that. Thor can throw Mjolnir at several times the speed of light and also swing Mjolnir at several times the speed of light while his strength was reduced in half. Mjolnir can also perform complicated maneuvers in the air and change course in mid-flight at the speed of thought. Not only that, but the speed of Thor's hammer transcends both time & space. So, in the "eyes" of Mjolnir, time has no meaning and is stopped completely. In addition, Thor can appear anywhere across the universe or other dimensions in just seconds. Thor can visually detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire and when he saw the speeding god Hermes). Thor has microsecond reaction time. Thor's superhuman sense's allow him to see objects as far out as the edge of the Solar System, allow him to track objects traveling faster than light, and hear cries from the other side of the planet. So, Im pretty sure Thor could keep up with Superman very easily. Also the Marvel/DC crossovers are not canon. Plus the winners of the battles in those comics were dictated by who had more votes
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234352 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: For intelligence, Superman did not come from Krypton. All of his knowledge came from Earth. Just because you are a certain race does not mean you are smarter than other races, if that is what you are trying to imply. If anything, Thor is smarter because he is thousands upon thousands of years old. If you cant agree with that, let me ask you this. Would a 30 year old man be smarter than a several thousand plus year old man? Of course not, that just doesn't make any sense. For strength, Superman and Shazam, as seen in the comic, were not able to even budge the Book of Infinite pages. It was Ultraman who lifted it and Superman is no Ultraman. Thor is physically the strongest of the Asgardian gods and his strength has been called unlimited. Thor pushed the weight of Yggdrasil and all 10 worlds which is estimated to weigh close to 104.5 octillion tons. Thor pulled off the Midgard Serpent from the Earth which was coiled around Earth at least twice around. That would weigh 100 sextillion tons. The force of his punches shatter entire worlds. He physically held together the fissures of a badly damaged moon. He has effortlessly snapped adamantium alloy cables by simply flexing. His punch when met with the same amount of force has closed dimensional rifts. Wonder Man conceded Thor as his superior in strength. He has also resisted the gravity of a neutron star. He was able to break Silver Surfer's force field with a single blow. He has also stalemated Hercules and the Hulk in various contests of strength and nearly rendered the Juggernaut unconscious after negating his mystical defenses. He has also sent the Hulk-like Bodolf the Black right through the entire Earth with a single punch. Thor has greater feats of strength compared to Superman. For speed, Thor is much faster, he can be anywhere in seconds. That is greater of an accomplishment than Superman could ever dream of doing
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234351 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: For durability, There are many characters who have defeated Superman in a physical fight like Wonder Woman for instance. Thor has tanked being blasted by Celestials, some of the most powerful beings in all of comics, three times in a row and got back up to continue the fight easily. Thor is invulnerable to powerful energy blasts, weighted impacts, falls from great heights, explosions and various other opposing forces. Even without his godly power Thor is still physically the strongest and most durable of all the Asgardians. Being a god whose heritage is both half-Asgardian and half-Elder God affords Thor virtual invulnerability and immunity to any such human ailments as diseases, toxins, poisons, corrosives, fire, viruses, electrocution, and asphyxiation. He has an immunity to heat, subzero temperatures, lead, and radiation poisoning. Thor has flown through the heart of stars. He withstood the weight of a score of planets. Thor was able to survive direct multiple blasts from the Asgardian Destroyer. Thor once took a glancing hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of ravaging an entire planet and soon after that explosion he fell from space (leaving a crater miles wide) to a planet called Pangoria. He has withstood several blasts from Odin. Thor is truly extremely difficult to kill as his life force is stated to be augmented by his godlike heritage and Mjolnir. Also, with Thor using his other powers, he can regenerate missing limbs or organs. That is much more than what Superman has been proven to be capable of. Thor has fought and defeated Surtur, a being who trumps Doomsday in power and strength as if it were an ant, metaphorically and literally
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234349 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Oh yea. I almost forgot. Thor is capable of creating powerful barriers, force fields, and vortexes that are impenetrable. Not even Earth's most advanced weapons could weaken Thor's barrier field that shielded the U.N. headquarters. Thor stated that he could have contained a cosmic flash attack from Stellaris, this blast was strong enough to destroy the planet Earth. These vortexes and barriers are so immensely durable that Thor was able to completely contain the explosion generated by a life bomb, which is so powerful it would have completely destroyed a fifth of the Marvel Universe, without the vortex even faltering, meaning that Thor literally contained a blast that is capable of annihilating millions upon millions of galaxies. Superman would never get through something like that. Thor is vastly beyond what Superman could ever be in terms of durability
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234347 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Ooooo, wow. Superman took out a bunch of clones and destroyed a planet? Very impressive. LOL, Thor clearly is more powerful than Superman by a far margin if those are the best feats Superman has. Thor has energy manipulation powers that are on par with the Silver Surfer. He is armed with Mjolnir, the mystical warhammer that has been shown to be capable of opening passageways through space and time, blocking all sorts of energy blasts, and bending the elements to its master's will. He has complete mastery over the weather, he can open chasms in the Earth, and if worst comes to worst, use the dreaded Godblast, an attack that is so powerful that one time Mjolnir shattered from the amount of power Thor channeled into it. This Godblast has even caused a crack in the armor of the Celestial Exitar, the force of which created a shock wave which rocked the planet Pangoria to its foundations. Thor's immortal life-force is more powerful than the mystical properties of Mjolnir. Thor can use his breath to create hurricane force winds. He has the ability to control the Earth. He is able to create continental-spanning chasms and earthquakes, that are off the Richter Scale, in the Earth itself. He can control landslides and avalanches. When he was trapped in the Tesseract (a pocket universe prison) from the Collector, Thor determined the boundaries of the Tesseract and escaped. His natural powers surpass most Asgardian gods
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 234345 m
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: He can easily go toe to toe with Zeus's own extreme powers. During Ragnarok, Thor had seen his family and friends fall to Loki's army and he reached down into himself for strength he never realized before and projected an energy blast so powerful that he knocked out Durok the Demolisher, who was so powerful that Thor, even with Mjolnir, was barely able to hold his own against. He can always project omni-directional blasts. He is capable of discharging lightning bolts from his hands. He also summoned a lightning bolt from the sky without Mjolnir to strike Hogun to revive him from near death. He summoned a lightning bolt to strike Hercules (which brutally injured him) to break his grip on him. He once mended together a badly damaged moon with his lightning
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Thor can erase the memories of Superman's with the wave of his hand. Additional enchantments placed upon it by Odin made it virtually indestructible. It has survived heat as extreme as the heart of suns and blasts powerful enough to destroy planets. Almost nothing is capable of withstanding a blow from Mjolnir, not even the armor of the powerful Celestials. Mjolnir has countless of mystical attributes and powers such as manipulation of the fundamental forces of the universes, including the electromagnetic spectrum and gravity. The enchantment is so powerful that even with the hammer cut in half, it's still in effect. Mjolnir can pass through nearly any barrier to reach Thor should he so choose. Mjolnir will even carve its way through the very center of entire planets to get back to its master. Wielding Mjolnir grants its master the ability to control rain, wind, thunder, lightning and more (although Thor can control them by himself, it seems that Mjolnir boosts his ability of controlling the base elements of a storm)
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Thor can create giant raging electrical storms complete with thunder, lightning, hurricane-force winds, tornadoes, blizzards, tidal waves, exploding volcanoes, earthquakes and torrential rains across entire planets at a moment's notice. It can also create any of these phenomena individually. Mjolnirs user can create storms on a planetary wide scale or larger if needed, and is not limited to the normal limits of Mother Nature and can go beyond and defy what natural weather can do such as creating rain in space where there is no atmosphere. The ability of Thor to control and create storms extends to any and all storms as he has been shown to control and create raging temporal storms in time, create Solar Flares, powerful stellar winds in space, and so on. His godly energy is so vast and powerful, that even when reinforced with the Belt of Strength, which should double Mjolnir's fortification and durability, that when Thor channeled his godly energies into Mjolnir to destroy the Brain Dome of the mighty Celestial Exitar, the hammer shattered from the amount of power Thor channeled. The Godblast is so immensely powerful and destructive that it has proven capable of destroying beings as large and as powerful as Galactus, who was forced to flee for his life.
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Thor can send the Godblast to the core of Ego the Living Planet and Alter Ego and render both comatose. He has also used the Godblast to defeat immortals such as Surtur, Ymir, Juggernaut, and Zelia. Thor is capable of producing an indescribably powerful blast known as the Anti-Force Blast which is capable of annihilating entire planets. This blast is so powerful that with just a single emission, Thor was capable of putting down and killing the powerful entity Mangog himself. Thor has the ability to produce a universe shaking Thermo Blast capable of decimating even entire planets and beings as durable as Ego the Living Planet. Thor is able to use Mjolnir to absorb any energy blasts directed towards him as means of attack. Once the energy is absorbed, Thor can redirect it back amplified many times over towards the source and/or use it as a weapon of his own. Thor has used Mjolnir to reflect the vast and hazardous amounts of energy being emitted by the biological weapon implanted within the Wasp's body by the Skrulls back at her while all of Earth's other superheros were helpless. Thor used Mjolnir to absorb Ultron's entire energy source, the Silver Surfer's Power Cosmic, Sky-Walker's Cosmic Tempest, radio active energy, magnetism, such as Magneto's personal magnetic field, and a portion of Pangoria's planetary magnetic field.
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: Mjolnir's ability to absorb energy is so powerful he managed to absorb, contain and redirect the entire energy of the Null Bomb, which was powerful enough to destroy the entire galaxy, and absorb mystical energies such as Pluto's mystic flame. He was even able to absorb a portion of the mystical energies from every god pantheon and absorbed the electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mother-ship. Thor can channel energies for the purpose of Wormholes through means of a vortex and in this vortex time has no meaning, which means he and others can pass through it to their destinations instantaneously. Thor has used Mjolnir to rip the fabric of the universe to send Surtur and Ymir to the Death Dimension. He has sent an entire population to Limbo and Thor can also use Mjolnir to travel through portals anywhere within the same dimension. By spinning Mjolnir in a precise manner at cyclotronic speeds, Thor can manipulate matter from a molecular level to a vast scale, which allows him to create other configurations and even allows him to transmute the elements themselves. This ability was evident when he transmuted the Absorbing Man's wood and iron body to the gas helium. While channeling his power through Mjolnir, Thor was able to resurrect a man he had wrongly killed. Thor's hammer can harness Alpha Particles from the atmosphere and can use it to atomize any weaponry. He has the power to negate any form of mystical energy. He used this ability on the Juggernaut himself to negate the mystical energies that grant him his mystical invulnerability, allowing him to defeat Juggernaut in combat.
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: He was also able to stop Mephisto from taking human souls to the Dark Dimension. Thor can use Mjolnir to tap into the power of the Nether Worlds (dark dimensions). Mjolnir allows Thor to produce and control Cosmic Energy to an unknown limit for a variety of purposes. Thor was able to absorb and manipulate the electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mothership. Thor can turn himself or others completely intangible and/or invisible. An offshoot of this ability is that Thor can use Mjolnir to completely disrupt the phasing abilities of super humans such as the Vision, Shadowcat, and etc. Thor's hammer has the ability to manipulate souls. Thor can absorb the Life-Force of someone. Thor used this ability on the super villain the Presence, who was forced to surrender to prevent himself from being reduced to a lifeless husk. Mjolnir can distinguish images, holograms, and different illusions from reality. This is evident whenever Thor commanded his hammer to strike the demon lord Mephisto, who was hiding among false images of himself. Even without activating the powers of Mjolnir, Thor's hammer, enchanted by Odin, is impervious to all forms of change, as he himself claimed that no power in the universe but the All-Father's could affect Mjolnir. Shown when Amora's magical efforts during her first confrontation with Thor to change Mjolnir into a deadly serpent availed her naught. In spite of Immortus taking away Mjolnirs time travel abilities, Mjolnir is still capable of manipulating time to some extent. So, unless Superman has better feats than these, Thor obviously is the more powerful of the two by a faaaaaaaaar margin
SirSpidey
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Thor There. Does that satisfy you, or do you need to hear more of my endless argument?
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CharaDreemurr 1 y and 242790 m
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Thor Thor can wreck Superman with Mjolnier's striking force alone. But Thor's magic is the real threat.
IMABATMAN42
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Thor Ok, so I'm gonna list a few ways this battle could play out. If it's base to base then Thor wins with relative ease thanks to magic. If Superman makes it to the sun there's really nothing Thor can do. If it's bloodlusted then I think Thor would win, again thanks to magic.
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SpiderGwenIsTerrible 1 y and 262827 m
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Thor Wha you said except when Superman makes it to the sun Thor has held a casual conversation in the center of the sun so he would just follow him to the sun and use his god blast.
IMABATMAN42
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Thor But Superman becomes overpowered when he enters the sun.
SirSpidey
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Thor If Superman gets to be Sun empowered, Thor gets to go into Warriors Madness state. Thor would win without a doubt if he goes into Warriors Madness state
IMABATMAN42
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Thor How powerful is Warriors Madness state Thor?
SirSpidey
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Thor He can destroy Galaxies with ease
IMABATMAN42
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Thor Makes sense, when does he use this.
SirSpidey
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Thor When Thor gets very, very angry
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ThunderFlameOdinson 1 y and 247888 m
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Thor Oh and Thor can teleport superman into a dimension where there are no suns at all.
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Dlamini 1 y and 277447 m
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Superman no one is powerful than Superman.
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_Holy_Joe_
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Thor Wrong. There are so many characters that can beat Superman.
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Durge1 1 y and 287552 m
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Superman @CaptainAmericaTakesAll...... I think we got him.
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CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I believe you are correct.
_Holy_Joe_
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Thor You didn't.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Oh yes we did.
_Holy_Joe_
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Thor Haha, no.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman He hasn't responded to any comments soooo i think you are mistaken.
SirSpidey
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Thor Well, I have commented. We are now waiting on your fanboyistic opinion filled response that has no factual and logical reasoning
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman As you said " what logic".
SirSpidey
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Thor Exactly, you have no logic. Way to roast yourself
_Holy_Joe_
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll Your logic is so flawed that there's nothing you said that's agreeable.
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CaseyJones 1 y and 297597 m
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not voted I say the true winner is, me. Casey Jones!
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ThunderFlameOdinson 1 y and 247887 m
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Thor hahahgfhghaghaha your halarious
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Final nail in the coffin. Superman went toe to toe with the FLASH of all superheros in a RACE. So Thor is obviously not faster than superman.
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_Holy_Joe_
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Thor When wielding Mjolnir, Thor can travel at ludicrous speeds. In some versions, Thor's not only one of the strongest characters in the Marvel Universe, but also one of the fastest, which is clear by his ability to travel faster than the speed of light. Thor took down Quicksilver which is due to him being able to track objects moving at several times the speed of light. He also once said that, on Earth, he can travel at supersonic speeds, but in space, he could travel around the Sun and across the universe in a matter of seconds. That is all probably due to Mjolnir's power transcending both time and space. Yes, time - Thor once traveled through time. Also, he can regularly travel across the universe or between the 9 Realms without the aid of the Bifrost in a very short amount of time. The 9 Realms have sometimes been shown to be separated universes.
SirSpidey
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Thor Very good @_Holy_Joe_: IΒ΄m glad to see that someone has been listening to all I have been saying. _Holy_Joe_ is correct
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bananaman 1 y and 298668 m
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Thor after the last movie-and since superman is dead-thor is my pick
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Just melt Thor's hammer at a distance and then Thor's just back to floating trough space.
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_Holy_Joe_
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Thor You forgot about the Megingjord, the Jarnbjorn, the Uru Arm, and Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder.
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ThunderFlameOdinson 1 y and 247882 m
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Thor Your a complete foolish fanboy. SUPERMAN CANT MELT THOR'S HAMMER YOU FOOL! AND EVEN IF HE DOES SHOOT LASERS AT MJOLNIR, NO EFFECT WILL HAPPEN, OR THOR CAN ABSORB IT!
SirSpidey
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Thor And redirect the power back at Superman with tenfold the potency
SirSpidey
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Thor Why do ya'll think Superman wins? I mean Thor has better feats of strength, speed, durability, and power. Prove to me that Superman wins. Unless you are voting because you like Superman more. I guess that is okay?
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SirSpidey
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Thor Anyone?
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Strength, really, is Thor is stronger than the man who moved the earth?
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
CaptainAmericaTakesAll 1 y and 300846 m
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Superman And superman is also the person who flew around the earth at mach 584,173.
Bbq444
Bbq444 1 y and 300703 m
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Superman He was first DC Comics Character.
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Durge1 1 y and 300546 m
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Superman Well i like Superman more so......
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll: For strength, considering Thor pushed the weight of the entire Universe, I'm pretty sure he is stronger than Superman. For Speed, Thor can run at the speed of light
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Durge1 1 y and 300492 m
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Superman @SirSpidey How so?
SirSpidey
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Thor What do you mean?
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Durge1 1 y and 300446 m
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Superman Well, @SirSpidey. You say the comics depict a Thor victory? Well how so? Why do you say that? I will say, i dont know a whole lot about Thor, and i'm more of a DC guy. But i do try to keep an open mind about characters. So could you please inform me of why you believe Thor would beat Superman?
SirSpidey
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Thor Read my comments below
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Durge1 1 y and 300407 m
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Superman I have, i find them inconclusive. Though i would like to ask you a question. Some of the feats which you have stated for Thor. are they current? Or are they from a random comic twenty years ago? Or are they current "cannon" Thor abilities?
SirSpidey
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Thor How are they inconclusive? Every feat I have stated for Thor happened in Earth 616
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Durge1 1 y and 300381 m
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Superman I will take that as, "They *are* cannon." Thank you. The thing is, you have listed a number of rather impressive accomplishments by Thor. But its not like Superman hasn't done things like that. Now, i'm not an expert. Just a guy who likes super heroes, so i am probably somewhat ignorant in some areas. But i still believe that you have somewhat underestimated Superman.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Superman benched the earth for five days. According to comic vine, thats bench pressing 1 decillion 50 nonillion 14 octillion pounds for 250,000 reps. Don't tell me that Thor is stronger than Superman.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman By the the way, 1. Thor never moved the Universe and 2. just because Thor beat Quicksilver in a race doesn't mean he can run the sped of light. Quicksilvers max speed was as fast radio waves, which is not even close to the speed of light, and if I am wrong about Thor " lifting the Universe" tell me the series of comic books what number it is.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman Final nail in the coffin. Superman went toe to toe with the FLASH of all superheros in a RACE. So Thor is obviously not faster than superman.
SirSpidey
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Thor @Durge1: Yes, everything I say is canon. The thing is, Superman has never accomplished feats like the ones Thor has accomplished or at least the New 52 Superman. I am not underestimating Superman. Superman is just fighting someone who can beat Galactus in a fight
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Durge1 1 y and 297568 m
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Superman @SirSpidey i have thought about this topic somewhat, and i have decided that i am not qualified to debate you. You obviously are better versed in the comics aspect. While i still dont agree with you, i have decided to concede. I took your advise and read some of your debates with other members, and it is clear that i will be unable to change your mind.
And as for all of your information, i would like to inquire to something my associate @CaptainAmericaTakesAll, could you please specify when Thor "Moved the Universe" ? I'm personally just curious.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I was simply summing up one of SirSpidey's quite un-factual comments
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I will not concede like @Durge1, but I will call this a draw. If you want to continue this I will gladly defend the most powerful super hero of all time. Superman.
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Durge1 1 y and 294632 m
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Superman @CaptainAmericaTakesAll I only conceded the argument because i have no intention to continue a discussion with someone who has no respect for those he debates. (I read his other comments.) I also doubt the authenticity of his arguments. (I have been unable to find any proof of his statement that Thor "Moved the universe." Superman still wins, but i dont want to get into an insult-fest with a man who obviously is biased against DC.
I claim a moral victory.
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Durge1 1 y and 294624 m
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Superman I would like to add though, if @SirSpidey does offer solid evidence to his claim i will gladly retract my statement regarding the accountability of his word.
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Superman Like I said I will call this a draw at best, if @sirspidey can give solid evidence I believe I will call it a draw.
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll/Durge1: ComicVine is not reliable. Everything everyone says on ComicVine are their own personal opinions unless, of course, they prove their opinions fact. If you look at my analysis of Supermans feat of strength, nothing about it is questionable. It is all fact. I suggest you use my calculations. You can even try and debunk my calculations if you want, but I have it all backed up with facts. As for evidence that Thor lifted the weight of the Universe, refer back to my previous comments. As for the speed of Quicksilver, Radio Waves are as fast as light, look it up. As for Superman racing the Flash, the Flash was not moving as fast as he could, as stated in the comic. The Flash also goes on to beat Superman very casually.
SirSpidey
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Thor @CaptainAmericaTakesAll/Durge1: The only reason you are unable to change my mind is because you have no evidence to back up your claims. Until you do so, Thor factually wins. Also, what is so unfactual about Thor lifting the weight of the Universe? Did I not provide the comic? Explain to me how Superman is the most powerful superhero of all time. IΒ΄m dying to hear it. And I donΒ΄t want your opinion, prove it with facts. Lastly, what is so inauthentic about my arguments?
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman The word "super" is literally in his name, enough said.
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Durge1 1 y and 300863 m
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Superman I disagree, that is not a valid argument. Just because his name has the word "super" in it. Does not mean he wins..... though he does win. Sorry Thor fans, i know he is strong. But Super Man is just....too strong.
CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I believe the word is called a joke.
SirSpidey
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Thor @Durge1: Not what the comics dictate
_Holy_Joe_
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Thor That's not a reason.
Bbq444
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Superman The battle could go either way but it would take a lot of hours to end the fight, I only choose superman because he was born with his powers Thor was only gifted his hammer by his father Odin.
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Thor LOLLLLL ITS GETTING HEATED DOWN HERE! SIR SPIDEY IS RAPING ALL OF Y'ALL LMAO!!!! P.S He is correct, actually has FACTS and EVIDENCE!
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CaptainAmericaTakesAll
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Superman I would like to argue that you are wrong.
SirSpidey
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Thor What argument?
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ReverseG1 1 y and 358881 m
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Thor It would be super close but in the end, I think Thor's magic will end up killing Superman. It would be super close though. Thor would be left with like 20% health
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Superman Superman has beaten Shazam before. Shazam has the same manic capabilities as Thor. Let's not forget,didn't Superman bench press he weight of the Earth, WITHOUT Solar Energy for 5 days without breaking a sweat. This was New 52 Superman too...
SirSpidey
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Thor You cannot say that because Superman beat Shazam, Superman beats Thor. Shazam isn't anywhere close to the power of Thor. If you read my comment below about these two characters strength, you will see that Thor is 40 times stronger than Superman
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Thor Speed: Thor can officially run at light speed due to the fact that he has struck down a speeding Quicksilver. The speed of Thor's hammer transcends both time and space. So in the "eyes" of Mjolnir, time has no meaning and has stopped completely. This means that Superman would be dead, within no specified amount of time because Mjolnir transcends time, without Superman even knowing. As a result of Mjolnir transcending time, Thor can appear anywhere in the Universe in just seconds. So unless Superman transcends both time and space, Thor isn't going to break a sweat fighting him. Thor has also swung Mjolnir at several times the speed of light while his strength was reduced in half. He is also able to detect objects moving several times the speed of light. Thor is clearly the faster character unless, of course, Superman has better feats
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Evidence: The Mighty Avengers #34, Thor #393, Thor #337, Thor #166, Fantastic Four #339, and Journey Into Mystery #102
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BruceWayner 1 y and 345376 m
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Superman Homie, that wasn't canon. :D
SirSpidey
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Thor Everything I say and reference are canon
remy94
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Superman Many of the Thor comics you use are outdated.
SirSpidey
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Thor Just because a comic is old, does not mean it is not canon. For DC that is true, but Marvel isn't terrible like DC. These comics happened in Earth 616 so they are in the mainstream continuity
ag940000
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not voted So everything is canon? Even the comic where Thor works for Hitler? (Invaders Vol 1 #33)
remy94
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Superman Good point
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Thor And you're point is......? Because that comic is in Earth 616, it is canon. Marvel isn't awful as DC is. DC is so terrible that they had to erase 70 years worth of comic book continuity due to terrible and dreadful writing and disorganization
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Superman At least Dc didn't go bankrupt because their comics were bad like Marvel did.
SirSpidey
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Thor Marvel has never been bankrupt. If they ever have, which they haven't, they came back pretty quick. Also, being bankrupt is a much better situation to be in rather than having terrible comics
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Superman I suggest you do some research Marvel did go bankrupt in the 90s because their comics were bad, and had to sell a number of their characters to save the business.
SirSpidey
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Thor No, Marvel did not file bankruptcy because their comics were bad, that's a DC problem. They filed bankruptcy because comic books in general were dying off in the 90's and seven of Marvel's most influential writers just decided, with no reason, to leave Marvel and make their own comic book company called Image Comics
wolfdragon123
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Superman Ya, they did almost go bankrupt because their comics are horrible. And the guys that run Mavel are such losers that they decided to tell comic book shops to destroy "x" amount of DC comics, and in return Marvel would give the shops special edition copies of certain Marvel issues
SirSpidey
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Thor Lol, now you're just making things up. As I said, Marvel went bankrupt because seven of their writers left them and comics were dying in the 90's. Besides, Marvel came back extremely quick, they recovered in less than a year. And don't get me started on the time Marvel almost bought out DC
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Superman The fact they went bankrupt means neither business is perfect, they are both excellent and both bad at the same time. They both have the same ups and downs.
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Thor Ah, so at first you are saying that Marvel has bad comics and then you say that they both Marvel and DC are equal. You know nothing of what you talk about. You are a typical fanboy. Marvel's bankruptcy was not their fault, they had no say in the matter. DC almost got bought out by Marvel solely because Warner Bros. thought DC was dead weight and so they offered Marvel, whose management they believed to be superior since their comics were selling better, the opportunity to take over stewardship of DC's characters. Marvel would have continued to publish DC's seven most popular titles (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Justice League, Teen Titans, and Legion of Superheros) and would have room to expand the titles later if they so chose, but Marvel declined the offer because they thought the reason DC was failing was because of the characters and that DC would have unlikely been a profitable venture for Marvel. Marvel is clearly the better company
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Superman I never said that I thought Marvel comics were bad, they just were at the time.
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Thor You said quote on quote, "At least Dc didn't go bankrupt because their comics were bad like Marvel did" You screwed yourself, you can't lie to us now
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Thor Strength: Yes, Thor pulling the Midgard Serpent off of the Earth is a great feat, but defiantly not his best one. Thor's greatest feat that trumps anyone of Superman's feats is pushing Yggdrasil and all ten worlds connected to it which world weigh approximately 104,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (octillion) tons. Superman's greatest feat is bench pressing the weight of the Earth for 5 days straight. If Superman were to be doing 1 bench press per 1 second, that would be 86,400 bench presses per day. If we multiply 86,400 by 5, you get 432,000. If we multiply 432,000 by the weight of the Earth, you only get 2,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (octillion) tons. Thor is 40 times stronger than Superman
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SirSpidey
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Thor Evidence: Thor #494, Final Crisis: Superman Beyond #1 and 2
SirSpidey
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Thor Excuse me, the correct Superman comic is Superman #13
SirSpidey
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Thor Intelligence: Thor is several of thousands years old. Has learned and experienced several thousands of more and different things as Superman. He possesses and retains the intellect and knowledge of Donald Blake even as Thor. Donald Blake/Thor are so smart that they once built an android that had an IQ of 375 and durable enough to withstand blows from Mjolnir. That androids IQ is 183 points more than Batman's IQ. Thor's time with Tony Stark and the Avengers also gave him great knowledge of complex Earthly systems of electronics and the ability to modify the systems for his own purposes. He is shown to be an avid reader of books written by other deities when he needs to learn new information
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Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #111, Journey Into Mystery #95, Thor: God of Thunder #20
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*Note - For your evidence, please don't give me websites or speculations. Websites are not reliable sources. Only give me comics. Also, You cannot use Golden Age or Silver Age feats of Superman. Those Are not canon feats. DC fans can only use New 52 feats because that is DC's new canonical timeline
SirSpidey
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Thor @TheTrueSuperman: Lets cut out all of this bullshit and start anew. Lets exchange evidence and feats. Whoever has better feats and can prove there feats with evidence, wins the debate. The category's are Intelligence, Strength, Speed, Durability, Power, and Combat. Ill start first
JuggarNot
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Thor @SirSpidey Some interesting questions for you- Who do you think Thor barely beats? And who just barely beats him?
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Thor Thor barely beats Thanos and Legion barely beats Thor
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Thor Thanks for the answer!
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Superman @SirSpidey Is that Thanos with or without the Infinity Gauntlet? Because I thought that Thor could beat Thanos pretty easily
SirSpidey
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Thor without
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Thor I messed up quite a bit, I don't know what I was thinking. Thor barely beats Galactus and Odin barely beats Thor
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Superman @SirSpidey I'm just curious, how do you find the issues so quickly?
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SirSpidey
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Thor http://readcomiconline.to/
JuggarNot
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Thor It is a great site.
SirSpidey
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Thor Now, it is time for the fun stuff, now that I have proved my argument to be all true. I will debunk practically every statement of @TheTrueSuperman
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 394875 m
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Superman You already said you debunked it... and your debunking sucked. Also, who "proved" your argument (crappy argument) to be true?
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Thor No, I specifically said that I will provide my evidence for the debunks I made against @wolfdragon123. That evidence I provided were not my debunks made against you. Maybe if your simple mind would go back and read all my comments all over again you will figure it out. Also, how can comics suck? I used comics to prove every single feat of Thor's. The comics are what proved my argument to be true. Also, to see if you have been following along, what do you think my argument is? And I don't want a fanboy answer
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Thor @SirSpidey Why do you feel the need to call people fanboys all of the time? You can think they have bias towards a character, but do you really need to resort to name calling?
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Thor I don't see it as name calling. I see it as what they are. Being a fanboy and having bias towards a character is the exact same thing so stop trying to be politically correct
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Thor How is that politically correct? And how is it not name calling? You are calling them a fanboy (a name). And I know that it's the same thing. Saying 'you are clearly biased towards this character' is much more mature than saying 'you are a fanboy'.
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Superman First of all, I can still debate Superman. I just don't want to debate Superman V Thor with you because I see no end, and if there is no ending than what is the point? I thought someone who acts as "high and mighty" as you would think of this, but some people in this world just aren't gifted with an actual brain. Your facts, although you may have more doesn't mean they are better. If I took as much time as you I could find just as many or more facts and evidence for how Superman could do better feats than that, but since after that you could do the same it would never end. Then your little "fanboy" thing is such a joke and SO hypocritical. You call me a fanboy yet you can't stand it if your hero loses even if it is a logical and full sided loss against Thor. You know it deep down but you won't admit it because if you did, you wouldn't even have an argument anymore. Deny it all you want, we both know its true no matter how hard you try to hide it.
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Thor It is politically correct because saying, "you are a fanboy" means the exact same thing as, "you are biased towards that character." This is the problem with our society now a days. People think that saying something a way people want to hear it matters. It doesn't, just man up and get on with the argument. "Oh, he just called me a fanboy. Im going to hide in this corner so that people cant see me." Dude, its not a big deal
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Superman @SirSpidey Also I want to add that-- where did political correctness come into play? Nowhere is the correct answer.
Also, it is name calling because you are giving me a title/name, which is absolutely childish... are you too arrogant and dumb to realize this? For someone who knows a lot about Comics, you sure don't know a lot about other things like Common friggin' Sense. You are biased in every fight against Thor for how much you like him and for some reason, you seem to have a bias against Superman based off of many fights you have voted on. You also make fun of my debating yet you can't seem to actually structure a real argument. Listing evidence is a good start though. But don't worry, maybe someday when you are older you just might reach close to my level. You have shown that you wanted an argument when all I asked for was a debate, so here is what you asked for.
SirSpidey
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Thor @TheTrueSuperman: If you would scroll almost all the way down, you will see my argument against @wolfdragon123's reason Superman would win. I am proving my argument against @wolfdragon123 with this evidence
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Thor I'm not making a big deal about it. I am just asking a question. And I am not trying to be politically correct, hell, I'm the farthest thing from it.
SirSpidey
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Thor If its not a big deal to you, then why bother asking a question about it?
LordTracer
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Thor Does something have to be a big deal for me to question it?
SirSpidey
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Thor No, but questioning something that isn't really a big deal means that for some reason it is a big deal to you
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Thor That's... pretty much what I just asked. And it's not a big deal. I just wanted to know.
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Superman I still don't think that is being politically correct, like @LordTracer I am the furthest thing from politically correct. I think it is stupid and shows just how weak people have become. About the name calling, I don't give a crap that you call me a name, its funny. What I am saying is it makes you look like a loser and makes what should be a friendly debate into just a flat-out argument that doesn't even regard the point of this website. Looking at some of your "structured arguments" that you claim to have. Yes, they are more structured than what you were trying to throw at me in our debate, but they still seem weak. You also don't incorporate the evidence into them, you just kind of say stuff and act like it is real even if it is not or has never had any proof to be. So back to what I said, maybe someday you just might be close to my level. Then when you say "questioning something that isn't really a big deal means that for some reason it is a big deal to you" is false. You can question/ask what time it is from someone but not really care what time it is, or even care that much if you find out. You are just proving right to me that you just want to argue, not debate about superheroes, but just argue about random crap. You probably feel like if you argue and insult some other people it will make you better than them or more special. Sorry to break it to you pal, but you aren't. So suck up your problems and actually debate rather than just argue for no reason.
SirSpidey
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Thor @LordTracer: If it wasn't a big deal to you, you wouldn't want to know
LordTracer
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Thor That is not correct. Maybe it is for you, but not me.
SirSpidey
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Thor As for @TheTrueSuperman starting with your first comment:
Comment #1: There is an end to this debate......whenever someone wins. Lol, Everyone has a brain in this world, I don't get your point in that statement :). What your saying is that websites, created with the opinions of some random people, are a better source of evidence than actual comics written by the characters creator? Very smart and logical @TheTrueSuperman. Some advice, saying it is one thing, but actually doing the things you say is completely different. Take as much time as I did and find some feats of Superman that are better. The only reason you are saying this debate would never end is to cover up the fact that you have not opened up one comic so you are trying to hurry up and end the debate before you have to provide us with some factual evidence. Your arguments are illogical and pathetic. For some weird reason you think you are winning in this debate but yet, you have only given me some opinion based websites, 6 non-canon comics, and only 1 canon comic. I have given you a whole 128 canon comics for evidence of my feats for Thor. Your going to have to do a lot better than that to beat me. Again, as I have said before, I am not a fanboy if I use facts. I have yet to see one Superman fanboy, including you, debunk my factual evidence and feats, with factual evidence and feats. Its pitiful, you Superman fanboys
SirSpidey
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Thor For @TheTrueSuperman's second comment:
Comment #2: If you could actually effectively use your brain, you would know that political correctness came into play with @LordTracer's comment for why I say, "fanboy" instead of saying, "You are biased towards this character." For your next idiotic point, what you are saying is that you are offended by people calling you by your name? Well thats extremely logical. Don't talk to me about common sense whenever you say things like, "It is name calling because you are giving me a title/name." Boi, doesn't common sense dictate that your very own name is a "title/name." As I have stated before, I only use canonical factual evidence and logic for my reason for someone winning. Again, I want to know what you think my argument is. Also, I'm curious, what is your level? Lastly, common sense also dictates that in a debate, there are arguments, you dim wit
SirSpidey
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Thor For @TheTrueSuperman's third comment:
Comment #3: Says the one who gets offended by me, like a girl, calling him a fanboy. What else would you rather me call you other than what you are? First off, I want to get some things straight. This whole me "calling you names" (Boo-Hoo, we feel so sorry for you) all started when you came into @JuggarNot and I's discussion saying, quote on quote, "Sir Spidey... do you actually believe Thor can beat Superman, Silver Surfer, and Martian Manhunter at the same time? No offense, but I think you are too much of a Thor fanboy. I haven't seen you vote against Thor on any fight, even fights (like this one) that he obviously loses." So don't come at me saying that since I called you some names (Geez, this whole name calling thing is like I'm talking to 5 year old), it makes me look like a loser and makes what should be a friendly debate into just a flat-out argument that doesn't even regard the point of this website. News flash, your calling yourself a loser. Your the one who wanted to start an argument. Here is the link to the battle in which you said that if you want, https://www.superherodb.com/battle/thor-vs-team-superman/45-21809/. When did I ever say that my arguments are well structured? My god, how stupid can you get? If you weren't 5 years old, you could actually conceptualize what I'm trying to do. ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT I PROVIDED (all the comic books that I referenced), ARE ALL EVIDENCE TO WHAT I WAS SAYING TO @wolfdragon123 ALMOST ALL THE WAY DOWN IN THE COMMENTS SECTION. Its actually quite simple. As for your idiotic time statement, if it isn't a big deal to you, why even ask what time it is? Your logic is excruciatingly painful to deal with. Again, the only reason a debate can exist is if you have a well thought out and logical argument, of which you do not have
LordTracer
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Thor You went from name calling to straight up insulting. No offense, but it makes you look pretty childish.
SirSpidey
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Thor Again, you are the reason this society is so weak. @TheTrueSuperman asked for me to bash him and I did. All of this "name calling and insults" are all started by @TheTrueSuperman, not me
LordTracer
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Thor I am the reason? I'm the only reason. Because that makes sense. Look, I can take an insult. And I can dish them out. I just don't see the point of insulting someone you've never seen before over something so trivial as what fictional character would win against another fictional character.
SirSpidey
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Thor Why aren't you saying this to @TheTrueSuperman? He is the one who started it all. He is the one who wanted for me to bash him. I could be having a nice chill debate with TheTrueSuperman using feats and giving evidence for those feats, but no, TheTrueSuperman does not want that. So, if this is such a big deal to you, why give me crap for it?
LordTracer
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Thor When did he insult you, or call you childish names? And when did he ask you to bash him?
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Superman First of all SirSpidey, YOU started all this and you alone. Look at how many comments I commented trying to say that we should have a friendly debate, and you trashed all that and went straight for a fight. So don't pin your mistakes on me. Also, you said that I said I was offended by people calling me names... did you not read my comments? I said the complete opposite of that. I said it was a joke, and that it made them look childish. Your "Politically Correct" argument is still crap, I started to see what you were saying but the thing is it doesn't work. Phrasing things differently to give a more respectful tone in a debate is different than actually changing terms just so people feel "special." Then this is my favorite part. You say that I get all offended and act like a girl when you call me a fanboy and that is SO SO SO hypocritical. What are you? A friggin liberal? Then you act like a victim when @LordTracer tries to help me out (Thanks by the way LordTracer). This debate doesn't have an end because neither one of us is going to change our minds, no matter how many sources we each share with each other. Also, you say that you have "128 Canon Comics" for sources. Well good for you... I guess it doesn't matter then that half of them have little to do with anything.
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Superman Again, your arrogance amuses me. You claim how much of a good debater you are, but the thing is-- you aren't even a debater. Your style of "debate" is to make personal attacks against whoever opposes you and then try to argue about how much better you are than them. If Thor was real, he would be highly disappointed in you kid. You are a coward, dishonorable, and arrogant. All of which Thor is not. Thor also is respectful to others, and the main moral of many of his comics is to learn humility. You are the type of person who has turned what is usually something fun to talk about, into a useless fight because your pride punched you in the gut and you just let it. It is sad to see another human being like this. I hope someday you revaluate who you want to be, and that time I truly hope for your and everyone who comes to know you's sake, you choose the right way to go.
JuggarNot
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Thor I feel a couple comments I made helped to trigger this debate that devolved into a fight. Anytime there is a debate it is good to present evidence and point out flaws in the others evidence /arguments, but it is never productive to have personal attacks or call names. It isn't a political correctness thing, it just derails good debates and conversations. In one of my early comments an already frustrated SirSpidey grouped me in with "Superman fanboys". Had I just come back with an insult of my own we would have never started a dialog, which would have been regrettable, because I feel I have learned a lot. In my opinion it is also a little lazy to throw in a barb in the middle of a good argument/debate. It takes away from the quality of an good point and actually exposes an insecurity in yourself. This applies to an unprovoked insult or when responding to an insult with another insult. The best debaters are those that respond to an insult with calm and logic- they will inevitably make the other person look foolish for resorting to name-calling. Just wanted to throw in my two cents because I have enjoyed reading the posts from all those involved in this. I chose a goofy pic to go next to my name because I want to remember to keep this fun and light, I have to fight too much in my "real life", as many of us do. A debate or disagreement can be fun, a fight never is. If you read all this, thank you for your time and thoughts.
SirSpidey
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Thor @TheTrueSuperman and @LordTracer: https://www.superherodb.com/battle/thor-vs-team-superman/45-21809/ Read it and be humbled
LordTracer
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Thor I'm sorry, what does that have to do with literally anything?
SirSpidey
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Thor It has to do with literally everything this whole "fanboy" argument is derived from. Since you and TheTrueSuperman think that calling someone a fanboy is wrong and you should go to Hell for it, this is what started it all. TheTrueSuperman barging into other peoples discussions saying what a fanboy they are whenever they actually use facts
LordTracer
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Thor That is not what I said. I said it makes you seem childish. And honestly, that battle makes it seem like you have a large bias towards Thor. I'm not saying @TheTrueSuperman was in the right for calling you a fanboy, but saying Thor can defeat Martian Manhunter, Superman and Silver Surfer at the same time seems quit biased.
SirSpidey
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Thor That is exactly what you said. You did not say anything remotely close about me seeming childish. You said, "I'm sorry, what does that have to do with literally anything?" You are completely disregarding the point I was trying to make. Why give me crap about something that someone else started? Lol, Do you seriously hate me that much? As for that battle, I am not being a fanboy due to the fact that I used facts. If Thors hammer transcends time, time has no meaning in the "eyes" of Mjolnir. This means that the Silver Surfer, Martian Manhunter, and Superman would all be dead in no specified amount of time because Mjolnir transcends time. They would all be smashed to death by Mjolnir without any of them even knowing. So, please explain to me how exactly I am a fanboy if I use facts?
LordTracer
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Thor I do not hate you. Why would I have hatred for someone on the Internet I do not know? And please show me something where Mjolnir can transcend time, post-Secret Wars.
SirSpidey
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Thor Well, you definitely are biased towards @TheTrueSuperman. It doesnt matter if it is post Secret Wars or not. Everything before Secret Wars is still canon. What made you believe it wasn't? The comic is: Thor #393
LordTracer
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Thor No, you just act like a douche sometimes. And Secret Wars was a reboot, was it not? Has Thor done this any other time? Back when those comics were written, heroes gained whatever powers they needed to make the plot go in their favor. If Thor could still do this, why not do it against Thanos? Or some other threat that the Avengers have to face off against?
SirSpidey
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Thor Oooohhh, so now I'm the douche for barging into other peoples discussion calling them what a fanboy they are even though they have used facts to prove there argument. That seems logical and fair. TheTrueSuperman asked for it and I gave it back to him tenfold. Secret Wars was not a reboot. Marvel just decided to make a story arc where Earth-1610 and Earth-616 were conjoined. That is all Secret Wars was. Why do you think it was a reboot?
LordTracer
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Thor Alright, I was mistaken then. I heard it was a reboot. But still, has MjolnΓ―r ever transcended time and space outside of this one comic?
SirSpidey
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Thor Mjolnir did this again in Fantastic Four #339 and Thor #166
LordTracer
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Thor Again, back when those comics were written, heroes gained whatever powers they needed. Either way, as far as I see, the vortex only transports people, it doesn't damage them. That could give Thor a win due to BFR, but since he has to wind up MjolnΓ―r to make the vortex, that's more than enough time for Superman (someone who can move faster than an instant) to stop Thor from BFRing him.
SirSpidey
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Thor You can say that about any comic new or old. I don't see your point in that statement. Even if Mjolnir isn't capable of harming someone, Thor can still teleport Superman to a Red Sun at the blink of an eye, as the comic says, and kill him there
LordTracer
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Thor Not really now. Heroes have their powers set, they don't just gain and lose powers every comic because the plot says so. And the blink of an eye is slower than half an instant. So again, while Thor is winding up Mjolnir, Superman could attack him. And how would Thor know where a Red Sun is?
SirSpidey
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Thor First off, comics give and take away powers of characters all of the time. I thought you would know this since you seem to read comics. Why are you in denial? I'm pretty sure that if Mjolnir has done it 3 times before it isn't Plot Induced Stupidity. Secondly, the blink of an eye is commonly referenced when describing an "instant." Third, since you love for me to reference comic issues for some reason, I have decided to ask for you to return the favor and give me the comic issue in which Superman moves in half an instant, or whatever you said. And it better be New 52. Lastly, Thor would know where a Red Sun is because he always travels the universe doing some kind of mission. You just have to know who Thor is for that one
LordTracer
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Thor https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/superman-165/greatest-new-52-superman-feats-1592365/
Just scroll down a bit, you'll see the scan of Superman moving at half an instant. And for the third time, Superman can attack Thor while he is winding up Mjolnir. And a Red Sun is in the Prime Earth DC universe, not the 616 Mavel Universe. So Thor would not find it during his explorations.
SirSpidey
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Thor Why do ya'll always give me some websites and images to look at? Is it really that hard to just read one simple comic? It just proves how limited your knowledge is of the character you are talking about. If you use the internet to get all of your information from, you are being limited to only some pictures and some opinions of random people from the web. In your picture @LordTracer, I do not know if this is New 52 or not, so you cannot rely on that one PICTURE for your whole argument. Once I get some confirmation that it is New 52, I just might consider it. Until then, that picture is useless.
LordTracer
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Thor Dude, the link says Greatest New 52 Superman Feats.
SirSpidey
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Thor Just because the title says New 52, does not mean that the people used New 52 feats. Do you really trust people that much?
LordTracer
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Thor And how do you know it isn't? Most people on Comic Vine aren't trolls and they will post something related to the topic.
SirSpidey
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Thor Since nothing on the picture says New 52, I'm assuming it isn't New 52. Almost everyone on ComicVine are either trolls, don't know about anything, or are just fanboys. Either way its just the opinion of a random dude. It is not fact
LordTracer
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Thor The page of the comic wouldn't say New 52. And how is it someone's opinion when it is a page from an official comic in the New 52?
SirSpidey
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Thor Look, your lucky I'm even commenting back on you comments. How can I debate with someone who hasn't even read one comic book? He knows nothing of what he is talking about except the opinions of other people on the internet. Until you give me a comic book issue that has confirmation saying it is New 52, I am not considering it. Go read some comics and get back with me. Its as simple as that. I'll even help you out a little bit: http://readcomiconline.to/
wolfdragon123
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Superman Superman, Supergirl, and Wonder Woman are all in their New 52 costumes, so it would be safe to say that it is from the New 52
SirSpidey
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Thor That means nothing. Superman's costumes look almost exactly the same throughout all the years. Give me a New 52 comic for evidence
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Thor Okay, so first of all, holy crap SirSpidey! You went and pinned down all of those comics (or read all of them, which in that case, good job). That's impressive! Also, TheTrueSuperman, you did a good job too. I mean, I'm team Thor, but still, nice job.
Okay, so here's why I think Thor would win (I don't have comic evidence, so sorry). First of all, Mjolnir. Mjolnir is very strong. I mean, it's an enchanted hammer that only the worthy can lift. I know Superman has lifted the hammer in that crossover, but that was once, while he probably won't be able to do it again. Next, Thor has his lightning, which could be magic, but I'm not sure (SirSpidey, if you know this one, then please confirm or die). So IF Thor has magic, then Superman has a big disadvantage. As for Superman's stats: Intelligence, Strength, Speed, Durability, Power, and Combat, some are pretty even, which I will get to on my next comment (because I don't know how long it will be and I don't want this comment to be to long).
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Superman @BoobitsC, Thanks! Welcome to this debate : )
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Superman Holy crap... I just entered that comment and realized I had accidentally typed your name wrong... I am so sorry, this is awkward.
SirSpidey
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Thor @BobbitsC: Thank you. I actually try to provide y'all with good, logical, canonical, and factual evidence, unlike some people. Don't buy into anyone's argument if they say that Superman has lifted Thor's hammer. First off, Those crossovers are not canon at all. Which means they cannot use those crossovers in an argument. Secondly, the winners of those crossovers were all dictated by who got more up votes by fans. Yes, the whole Amalgam Universe (the crossovers) is based off of the votes of the fans. As for Thor's lightning, everything about Thor derives from his limitless supply of magical energy that flows through him. So yes, Thor's lightning is magical
LordTracer
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Thor Actually, @SirSpidey, if I may correct you, some of the battles were decided by fans. Most battles were decided by the writers of the comics themselves.
The battles that were decided by fans are these:
- Superman v. Hulk
- Spider-Man v. Superboy
- Batman v. Captain America
- Wolverine v. Lobo
- Storm v. Wonder Woman
All others were decided by the writers.
SirSpidey
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Thor Ah, yes. I was informed incorrectly. Either way though, the Marvel/DC crossovers are not canon so therefore can not be used as evidence for a character winning over the other
JuggarNot
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Thor @SirSpidey I just realized you changed your image, just for this argument. That's pretty funny. I'm pretty sure you and TheTrueSuperman will never agree on this one.
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Superman I have to do this in chunks because it wouldn't let me post due to the comment being too long. Also, this is nowhere near as good as my original comment but I am not taking the time to rewrite all that so consider this a long summary ; )
Why I believe Superman would beat Thor.
1. He IS faster. It is said on the official Marvel Comic's website --Marvel.com-- that Thor is able to travel at speeds a little over Mach 32 or 24,000MPH. Superman's top speed has never been calculated or seen but his fastest speed shown UNDER Earth's atmosphere was 7,200,000MPH which is Mach 9,350. It is also been said that Superman can travel far beyond the speed of light in the vacuum of space. Also it has been told that Superman can travel faster under Earth's atmosphere than previously stated, but he doesn't due to the damage it would cause.
2. Superman IS smarter, or at least uses his smarts in a much more efficient way. Thor is a highly intelligent being but has never shown impressive instances of intelligence. He has shown that he has a high intelligence in terms of strategy and street smarts, but there is a lack in the book smarts area. Superman is known to have "Super Intelligence" which is due to his braining also absorbing solar radiation constantly, in results to this he is able to remember/retain EVERY bit of knowledge he has learned. Superman learns many things due to his Earthly job, Heroic duties, Galaxy travels, and in some cases he has learned many things from Jor-El in his Fortress of Solitude. Superman has also shown high intelligence in the cases where he has beaten Mr. Mxyzptlk.
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Superman 3. Superman IS stronger. Superman has been shown to lift 200 Quintillion Tons, bench press the weight of the Earth for 5 days straight without breaking a sweat and while losing the solar radiation from his cells, move planets by himself, and literally hold a black hole in-between his hands so it wouldn't expand. I then went and researched Thor's most impressive strength feats. He has many but it is said by fans and other readers that his most impressive strength feat is when he lifted the Midgard Serpent which is said to be about half to the whole weight of the Earth. I looked for more impressive strength feats (strength in regards to pulling/lifting/pushing) for Thor but couldn't find any. So send me a link to greater strength feats if you know of any.
4. Superman is flat out more powerful. Thor is known for being a powerhouse, which he is. His God Blast is so powerful that Galactus has even said that it could kill him. Superman has a solar flare which is immensely powerful (but not even close to the God Blast). So why does Superman take this category? Well Superman (even though this is cheesy and flat out dumb) has sneezed so hard it destroyed a whole solar system, it's dumb but it happened. Thor's lightning I believe to be more powerful than Superman's heat vision, but then Superman also has his freeze breath which he frequently uses.
5. Combat: Thor takes it easy. Superman has learned boxing and some brawling tactics, but compared to Thor that is nothing.
Overall, Superman wins due to his greater speed, strength, overall power, and ability to use his smarts in a more significant way. It is also shown in a JLA+Avengers crossover that Superman and Thor fought and after a long well fought battle from each of them, Superman came out victorious. This is not as well put together as the original comment I had wrote, but I am not taking the time to re-write all of that again. So this I think is a good sized summary for the most part. Also here are some sources for information.
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Superman http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_complete_powers#axzz53515OSZq
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/80312/how-do-we-know-the-flash-is-faster-than-superman
http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman%27s_Powers_and_Abilities
https://moviepilot.com/posts/3784825
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8o3UJ_n9--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18ffkaj960gqqjpg.jpg
https://kotaku.com/superman-s-new-power-makes-him-a-little-less-super-a-l-1683782553
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Superman @SirSpidey
@JuggarNot
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Superman I also hope you guys enjoy what I put together, I spent more time on this than I probably should of =) || I have homework I should've been getting done lol. Also, I just want to put it out there that I absolutely LOVE Thor. I also do love Superman, but I am just stating my honest opinion on who I think would win. Ok, enjoy.
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Superman Also, instead of Superman and Thor fighting all the time here is a fight I want you guys to vote on.
https://www.superherodb.com/battle/superman-and-thor-vs-spectre/45-21865/
SirSpidey
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Thor Now it is my turn to ask you for evidence like you asked of me in the Hulk vs Superman battle. I cant trust anything you said in this comment if you don't reference the comic issues that you used to get your evidence. Once you do that, I will go on to debunk you statements and also give my evidence as well but only if you do what I asked. Links to websites are great and all, but if they don't reference comic books, they are just the OPINION of the person who edited the page on the website
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Superman The thing is these websites aren't opinions (most at least) a lot of them are referencing and taking their information from comics and just explaining it without making you read the whole comic. I'm doing my best to find which comics the sources were taken from, so here you go.
Flash v2, #220.
Superman v3, #13.
Action Comics v1, #273.
Superman v1 #5.
Superman v1 #38.
JLA v1 #77.
Superman: World of New Krypton v1 #3
Here are just a few references to his Speed, Strength, Intelligence, Power, & Combat skills.
SirSpidey
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Thor Since both your argument and evidence is so pathetic, Ill give you a pass because I truly believe you are hopeless. I will first give my evidence and then continue to debunk pretty much every statement you typed. I'm telling y'all. Its too easy with you fanboys
SirSpidey
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Thor @TheTrueSuperman: I suggest you take notes because this is how it is done.
Evidence for Debunk #1:
- What I said: "Thor has struck down a speeding Quicksilver"
> Evidence: Mighty Avengers #34
- What I said: "Quicksilver can run at light speed"
> Evidence: Son of M #5
- What I said: "has claimed to have fought foes faster than him"
> Evidence: Mighty Avengers #34
- What I said: "Thor has been clocked flying at three times the speed of light and is capable of achieving speeds far greater than that"
> Evidence: Thor #185
- What I said: "He can throw Mjolnir at several times the speed of light"
>Evidence: Thor #140 and Thor #274
- What I Said: "swing Mjolnir at several times the speed of light while his strength was reduced in half"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #102
- What I Said: "Mjolnir can also perform complicated maneuvers in the air"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #107
- What I Said: "change course in mid-flight at the speed of thought"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #120
- What I Said: "the speed of Thor's hammer transcends both time & space"
> Evidence: Thor #393
- What I Said: "Thor can appear anywhere across the universe or other dimensions in just seconds"
> Evidence: Fantastic Four #339 and Thor #166
- What I Said: "Thor can visually detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happened when Thor was the target of artillery fire and when he saw the speeding god Hermes)"
> Evidence: Invaders #33 and Avengers #281
- What I Said: "Thor has microsecond reaction time"
> Evidence: Thor #382
- What I Said: "Thor's superhuman sense's allow him to see objects as far out as the edge of the Solar System"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #85
- What I Said: "allow him to track objects traveling faster than light"
> Evidence: Thor #337
- What I Said: "and hear cries from the other side of the planet"
> Evidence: Thor #341-343
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ThunderFlameOdinson 1 y and 400185 m
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor About the Mach 24k. That's movie form lmao. If you read some comics you would know how fast Thor is. Superman is not faster than Silver Surfer, of course you probably know that. Thor has caught up to Silver Surfer and beat him down as well. So you're wrong about his speed. Thor has even gone faster than Ego. Thor has gone as fast as 4x speed of light before!
And about intelligence... well you're very very wrong about that lmao. Unless if your a complete fanboy, then you would know Thor is smarter in both combat and just knowledge in general. Thor has way more experience than Superman too, which actually does give him an edge... even though Thor's already had the edge... Magic, absorption, and when thor awakens warrior madness, strength too ;) P.S Superman IS weak against MAGIC! Its as if Thor is Tailored and made to defeat Superman lol.
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 398716 m
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor @TheTrueSuperman Thanks for taking the time to retype. I'll check out those links.
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 398697 m
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor Like SirSpidey, I think you changed your image. Both you guys crack me up. I admire the passion you both bring to the table.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 398321 m
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Superman Thanks, @JuggarNot, it is pretty funny. It seems @SirSpidey doesn't see it that way though. It seems his only true argument is calling me a Superman fanboy. He is arguing against Marvel's own facts themselves (not MCU, but actual Marvel Comics) to make Thor seem more powerful. Thor is very powerful, I am not denying that. I do believe in some cases he can beat Superman, but just on a regular day Supe's wins. Also SirSpidey, your arrogance amuses me. Your little "I suggest you take notes because this is how it is done," line makes me laugh. You call me hopeless yet you seem so desperate to find ways Thor might even have a chance that you literally put "and hear cries from the other side of the planet" for one of Thor's best feats. Superman does that every day just to make sure Lois is ok.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 398320 m
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Superman Also, @ThunderFlameOdinson welcome to this debate. Glad to have you. So I did read your comment and am going to say false, the Thor facts I stated were not MCU. They were from the official Marvel Comics website, not the Marvel Studios website. I also researched more into his speed, also taking into account some of SirSpidey's evidence. What I found was that Thor does have an insanely fast reaction time, has taken down Quicksilver, and has gone faster than the speed of light by about x3-4 (while being in space) like you guys were saying, yet it is never specifically stated. Thor took down Quicksilver which you said traveled at the speed of light which is false. Quicksilver eventually got to that speed, but in the issue you stated Mighty Avengers #34 when Thor does take him down, he is not yet able to travel at those speeds yet. Meaning he only took down a maybe slightly over the speed of sound Quicksilver making that feat useless in this battle. Looking more into his speed, he has shown to go faster than the speed of light, but his fastest speed shown is nothing compared to the calculated (thanks to The Imaginary Axis) top speed Superman has ever shown which is-- 273,750,000,000x the speed of light.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 398318 m
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Superman Now for intelligence, I am not saying Superman is smarter because I am a fanboy, but neither of you two have shown factual evidence showing Thor use his smarts like I did for Supes. I also researched for both of them, and while Thor is smart especially from his many years of life, Superman has just shown to use his smarts in situations way more often than Thor. Also look at the stats on this website for each character, of which the people voted on. Thor's intelligence is significantly lower than Clarks. You can't just shrug that off and say "Oh, all those 450 people who entered stats in for those characters don't know anything." Everything leans toward Superman when it comes to speed and intelligence. Then there is strength. Superman has shown many more feats than Thor involving strength, and I showed amazing feats for both heroes, but Superman has more and greater ones than Thor. SirSpidey didn't even show an argument or reference a comic where Thor did a better feat than that of which I stated for him. Then also again with the stats people voted on-- Supermans strength is higher. Again Thor stomps it in combat, but everything else just points to Superman. Also, many of your references SirSpidey just explain how Mjolnir is really fast and powerful when thrown, which is true. But Superman doesn't need to be thrown to travel faster than "several times the speed of light." Then there is the big one where actual Marvel and Dc creators sat down and talked about who would win a fight, and Superman won.
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 398219 m
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor SirSpidey is passionate about his heroes. Especially when he feels Thor is being grossly underestimated.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 398103 m
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Superman Which I highly respect. I try to stand up for my heroes too when I feel like they are being underestimated. What I don't like about SirSpidey's approach is that he isn't trying to make his hero look better, or even your hero worse. He just tells everyone that you as a person must be an un-credible, illogical, dumb, fanboy just because you believe someone other than Thor wins every fight. I think that is a person who doesn't want to have a fun debate (which is the reason for this website), that is the type of person who just wants to get in a fight. Legit I don't give a crap whether you think Superman or Thor wins, I just like seeing everybody's reasons why and then sharing my reasons back. That process doesn't work when the person is just trying to insult you as a person instead of talk about the characters. Make sense? I've even commented to SirSpidey that we should just have a friendly debate, not throw insults at each other for disagreeing views and the first thing he comments is "Since both your argument and evidence is so pathetic, Ill give you a pass because I truly believe you are hopeless. I will first give my evidence and then continue to debunk pretty much every statement you typed. I'm telling y'all. Its too easy with you fanboys." Funny thing is my evidence came from far more sources-- Official Websites, Fan Forums, Comics, Videos, etc. and he just says a few comic issues (which I did as well + more) and then calls my evidence weak. Then every comment has to be either how I am a fanboy or suck at debating which is also funny because all his argument is is how much of a fanboy I am and how bad I am at debating... apparently, that is how Thor wins a fight. I don't want to cause a fight with you SirSpidey, but it sure as heck seems like you do.
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 397897 m
Superman vs Thor
1 year member
Thor He does go at you hard. From his point of view, you saying Superman can beat Thor is like someone saying Spider-man could beat Superman. It drives him nuts. Both of you could run circles around me regarding comic book knowledge, but my humble advice would be that the two of you avoid each other in debate where Superman and Thor are involved.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 397725 m
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Superman Ha, you are probably right. Love the new profile pic by the way. @JuggarNot
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 397544 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Hold on, I'm not even close to being done with my evidence. Once I am done with my evidence, I will continue to debunk almost every statement of @TheTrueSuperman's. :-)
Evidence for Debunk #2.1:
- What I Said: "For strength, Superman and Shazam, as seen in the comic, were not able to even budge the Book of Infinite pages. It was Ultraman who lifted it and Superman is no Ultraman"
> Evidence: Final Crisis: Superman Beyond Issues 1 and 2
- What I Said: "Thor is physically the strongest of the Asgardian gods and his strength has been called unlimited"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #103, Thor #300, Thor #272, Thor #379, Thor #178, Silver Surfer #4, and Journey Into Mystery #94
- What I said: "Thor pushed the weight of Yggdrasil and all 10 worlds which is estimated to weigh close to 104.5 octillion tons"
> Evidence: Thor #494
- What I Said: "Thor pulled off the Midgard Serpent from the Earth which was coiled around Earth at least twice around. That would weigh 100 sextillion tons"
> Evidence: Thor #327
- What I Said: "The force of his punches shatter entire worlds"
> Evidence: Thor: God of Thunder #9
- What I Said: "He physically held together the fissures of a badly damaged moon"
> Evidence: Thor: God of Thunder #9
- What I Said: "He has effortlessly snapped adamantium alloy cables by simply flexing"
> Evidence: Thor #309
- What I Said: "His punch when met with the same amount of force has closed dimensional rifts"
> Evidence: Avengers #100
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 397544 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor - What I Said: "Wonder Man conceded Thor as his superior in strength"
> Evidence: Avengers #181
- What I Said: "He has also resisted the gravity of a neutron star"
> Evidence: Thor #281
- What I Said: "He was able to break Silver Surfer's force field with a single blow"
> Evidence: Silver Surfer #4
- What I Said: "He has also stalemated Hercules and the Hulk in various contests of strength and nearly rendered the Juggernaut unconscious after negating his mystical defenses"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #112, Defender #10, and Thor #429
- What I Said: "He has also sent the Hulk-like Bodolf the Black right through the entire Earth with a single punch"
> Evidence: Mighty Thor #7
- What I Said: "For speed, Thor is much faster, he can be anywhere in seconds"
> Evidence: Fantastic Four #339 and Thor #166
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 397488 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #2.2.
- What I Said: "Thor has tanked being blasted by Celestials, some of the most powerful beings in all of comics, three times in a row and got back up to continue the fight easily"
> Evidence: Thor #300
- What I Said: "Thor is invulnerable to powerful energy blasts, weighted impacts, falls from great heights, explosions and various other opposing forces"
> Evidence: Thor #145
- What I Said: "Even without Mjolnir, his godly power Thor is still physically the strongest and most durable of all the Asgardians"
> Evidence: Thor #145
- What I Said: "Being a god whose heritage is both half-Asgardian and half-Elder God affords Thor virtual invulnerability and immunity to any such human ailments as diseases, toxins, poisons, corrosives, fire, viruses, electrocution, and asphyxiation"
> Evidence: Thor Vikings #2
- What I Said: "He has an immunity to heat, subzero temperatures, lead, and radiation poisoning"
> Evidence: Thor Vikings #2, Avengers #14, Thor #282, Thor #309, and Thor #324
- What I Said: "Thor has flown through the heart of stars"
> Evidence: Marvel Graphic Novel #33
- What I Said: "He withstood the weight of a score of planets"
> Evidence: Thor Annual #9
- What I Said: "Thor was able to survive direct multiple blasts from the Asgardian Destroyer"
> Evidence: Thor #5
- What I Said: "Thor once took a glancing hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of ravaging an entire planet and soon after that explosion he fell from space (leaving a crater miles wide) to a planet called Pangoria"
> Evidence: Thor #387
- What I Said: "He has withstood several blasts from Odin"
> Evidence: Thor #241
- What I Said: "Thor is truly extremely difficult to kill as his life force is stated to be augmented by his godlike heritage and Mjolnir"
> Evidence: Thor #602
- What I Said: "Also, with Thor using his other powers, he can regenerate missing limbs or organs"
> Evidence: Thor: God of Thunder #17, Thor Vikings #2, and Thor Vikings #3
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 397456 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #2.3:
- What I Said: "Not even Earth's most advanced weapons could weaken Thor's barrier field that shielded the U.N. headquarters"
> Evidence: Thor #181
- What I Said: "Thor stated that he could have contained a cosmic flash attack from Stellaris, this blast was strong enough to destroy the planet Earth"
> Evidence: Thor #421
- What I Said: "These vortexes and barriers are so immensely durable that Thor was able to completely contain the explosion generated by a life bomb, which is so powerful it would have completely destroyed a fifth of the Marvel Universe, without the vortex even faltering, meaning that Thor literally contained a blast that is capable of annihilating millions upon millions of galaxies"
> Evidence: Avengers Annual #9
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 397447 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor I will continue my evidence for my third debunk tomorrow
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 395389 m
Superman vs Thor
2 year member
Superman No need, this "debate" is getting boring. Neither one of us is going to be able to convince the other that one hero can win, also we are just going to keep swapping evidence for who is better back and forth all day and all night and all over again. So what is the point? Am I giving up? Running away? No. I am legit just bored of this argument. You want to debate for a different set of heroes, let's do it. But this argument is getting old.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 395329 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #3.1:
- What I Said: "Thor has energy manipulation powers that are on par with the Silver Surfer"
> Evidence: Silver Surfer #4
- What I Said: "He is armed with Mjolnir, the mystical warhammer that has been shown to be capable of opening passageways through space and time, blocking all sorts of energy blasts, and bending the elements to its master's will"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #86
- What I Said: "He has complete mastery over the weather, he can open chasms in the Earth, and if worst comes to worst, use the dreaded Godblast, an attack that is so powerful that one time Mjolnir shattered from the amount of power Thor channeled into it"
> Evidence: Thor #4 and Thor #388
- What I Said: "This Godblast has even caused a crack in the armor of the Celestial Exitar, the force of which created a shock wave which rocked the planet Pangoria to its foundations"
> Evidence: Thor #388
- What I Said: "Thor's immortal life-force is more powerful than the mystical properties of Mjolnir"
> Evidence: Thor #388
- What I Said: "Thor can use his breath to create hurricane force winds"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #86
- What I Said: "He has the ability to control the Earth. He is able to create continental-spanning chasms and earthquakes, that are off the Richter Scale, in the Earth itself"
> Evidence: Thor #4
- What I Said: "He can control landslides and avalanches"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #94
- What I Said: "When he was trapped in the Tesseract (a pocket universe prison) from the Collector, Thor determined the boundaries of the Tesseract and escaped"
> Evidence: Astonishing Thor #3
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 395321 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor LOL, you are getting bored of debating your favorite character. Thats just sad. I thought Superman fanboys were suppose to have a little bit more grit than that
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 395297 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #3.2:
- What I Said: "During Ragnarok, Thor had seen his family and friends fall to Loki's army and he reached down into himself for strength he never realized before and projected an energy blast so powerful that he knocked out Durok the Demolisher, who was so powerful that Thor, even with Mjolnir, was barely able to hold his own against"
> Evidence: Thor #82
- What I Said: "He can always project omni-directional blasts"
> Evidence: Thor #82
- What I Said: "He is capable of discharging lightning bolts from his hands"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #93
- What I Said: "He also summoned a lightning bolt from the sky without Mjolnir to strike Hogun to revive him from near death"
> Evidence: Thor #29
- What I Said: "He summoned a lightning bolt to strike Hercules (which brutally injured him) to break his grip on him."
> Evidence: Thor Blood Oath #4
- What I Said: "He once mended together a badly damaged moon with his lightning"
> Evidence: Thor: God of Thunder #9
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 395261 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #3.3:
- What I Said: "Thor can erase the memories of Superman's with the wave of his hand"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #115 and Journey Into Mystery #123
- What I Said: "Additional enchantments placed upon Mjolnir by Odin made it virtually indestructible"
> Evidence: Thor #12
- What I Said: "Almost nothing is capable of withstanding a blow from Mjolnir, not even the armor of the powerful Celestials"
> Evidence: Thor #388
- What I Said: "Mjolnir has countless of mystical attributes and powers such as manipulation of the fundamental forces of the universes, including the electromagnetic spectrum and gravity"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #101-102 and Thor #440
- What I Said: "The enchantment is so powerful that even with the hammer cut in half, it's still in effect"
> Evidence: Thor #11
- What I Said: "Mjolnir can pass through nearly any barrier to reach Thor should he so choose"
> Evidence: Thor #4
- What I Said: "Mjolnir will even carve its way through the very center of entire planets to get back to its master"
> Evidence: Thor #4
- What I Said: "Wielding Mjolnir grants its master the ability to control rain, wind, thunder, lightning and more (although Thor can control them by himself, it seems that Mjolnir boosts his ability of controlling the base elements of a storm)"
> Evidence: Thor #29
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 395140 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #3.4:
- What I Said: "Thor can create giant raging electrical storms complete with thunder, lightning, hurricane-force winds, tornadoes, blizzards, tidal waves, exploding volcanoes, earthquakes and torrential rains across entire planets at a moment's notice"
> Evidence: Thor #321
- What I Said: "The ability of Thor to control and create storms extends to any and all storms as he has been shown to control and create raging temporal storms in time, create Solar Flares, powerful stellar winds in space, and so on"
> Evidence: Thor #280
- What I Said: "His godly energy is so vast and powerful, that even when reinforced with the Belt of Strength, which should double Mjolnir's fortification and durability, that when Thor channeled his godly energies into Mjolnir to destroy the Brain Dome of the mighty Celestial Exitar, the hammer shattered from the amount of power Thor channeled"
> Evidence: Thor #388
- What I Said: The Godblast is so immensely powerful and destructive that it has proven capable of destroying beings as large and as powerful as Galactus, who was forced to flee for his life"
> Evidence: Thor #161
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 395090 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Evidence For Debunk #3.5:
- What I Said: "Thor can send the God-Blast to the core of Ego the Living Planet and Alter Ego and render both comatose"
> Evidence: Astonishing Thor #4
- What I Said: "He has also used the Godblast to defeat immortals such as Surtur, Ymir, Juggernaut, and Zelia"
> Evidence: Thor #267
- What I Said: "Thor is capable of producing an indescribably powerful blast known as the Anti-Force Blast which is capable of annihilating entire planets"
> Evidence: Thor #12
- What I Said: "This blast is so powerful that with just a single emission, Thor was capable of putting down and killing the powerful entity Mangog himself"
> Evidence: Thor #25
- What I Said: "Thor has the ability to produce a universe shaking Thermo Blast capable of decimating even entire planets and beings as durable as Ego the Living Planet"
> Evidence: Thor #133
- What I Said: "Thor has used Mjolnir to reflect the vast and hazardous amounts of energy being emitted by the biological weapon implanted within the Wasp's body by the Skrulls back at her while all of Earth's other superheros were helpless"
> Evidence: Thor #200
- What I Said: "Thor used Mjolnir to absorb Ultron's entire energy source, the Silver Surfer's Power Cosmic, Sky-Walker's Cosmic Tempest, radio active energy, magnetism, such as Magneto's personal magnetic field, and a portion of Pangoria's planetary magnetic field"
> Evidence: Silver Surfer #4, Thor #304, Avengers #304, Thor #387, and Journey into Mystery #109
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 394979 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #3.6:
- What I Said, "Mjolnir's ability to absorb energy is so powerful he managed to absorb, contain and redirect the entire energy of the Null Bomb, which was powerful enough to destroy the entire galaxy"
> Evidence: Thor #407
- What I Said: "and absorb mystical energies such as Pluto's mystic flame"
> Evidence: Thor #223
- What I Said: "He was even able to absorb a portion of the mystical energies from every god pantheon"
> Evidence: Thor #301
- What I Said: "and absorbed the electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mother-ship"
> Evidence: Thor #288
- What I Said: "Thor can channel energies for the purpose of Wormholes through means of a vortex and in this vortex time has no meaning, which means he and others can pass through it to their destinations instantaneously"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #123
- What I Said: "Thor has used Mjolnir to rip the fabric of the universe to send Surtur and Ymir to the Death Dimension"
> Evidence: Thor #425
- What I Said: "He has sent an entire population to Limbo and Thor can also use Mjolnir to travel through portals anywhere within the same dimension"
> Evidence: Thor #192 and Journey Into Mystery #88
- What I Said: "By spinning Mjolnir in a precise manner at cyclotronic speeds, Thor can manipulate matter from a molecular level to a vast scale, which allows him to create other configurations and even allows him to transmute the elements themselves"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #115
- What I Said: "While channeling his power through Mjolnir, Thor was able to resurrect a man he had wrongly killed"
> Evidence: Invaders #33
- What I Said: "Thor's hammer can harness Alpha Particles from the atmosphere and can use it to atomize any weaponry"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #102
- What I Said: "He has the power to negate any form of mystical energy"
> Evidence: Thor #310
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 394937 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor Evidence For Debunk #3.7. This Is finally the last one:
- What I Said: "Thor can use Mjolnir to tap into the power of the Nether Worlds (dark dimensions)"
> Evidence: Journey Into Mystery #101
- What I Said: "Mjolnir allows Thor to produce and control Cosmic Energy to an unknown limit for a variety of purposes"
> Evidence: Avengers #5
- What I Said: "Thor was able to absorb and manipulate the electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mothership"
> Evidence: Thor #288
- What I Said: "Thor can turn himself or others completely intangible and/or invisible. An offshoot of this ability is that Thor can use Mjolnir to completely disrupt the phasing abilities of super humans such as the Vision, Shadowcat, and etc"
> Evidence: Avengers #300
- What I Said: "Thor's hammer has the ability to manipulate souls"
> Evidence: Thor #363
- What I Said: "Thor can absorb the Life-Force of someone. Thor used this ability on the super villain the Presence, who was forced to surrender to prevent himself from being reduced to a lifeless husk"
> Evidence: Avengers #44
- What I Said: "Mjolnir can distinguish images, holograms, and different illusions from reality"
> Evidence: Thor #310
- What I Said: "Even without activating the powers of Mjolnir, Thor's hammer, enchanted by Odin, is impervious to all forms of change, as he himself claimed that no power in the universe but the All-Father's could affect Mjolnir"
> Evidence: Thor #286
- What I Said: "In spite of Immortus taking away Mjolnirs time travel abilities, Mjolnir is still capable of manipulating time to some extent"
> Evidence: Avengers #300 and All New, All Different Avengers #5
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 389731 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor I find it odd that no one has said that Superman has better feats than the ones I listed for Thor. Whats the big deal?
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 403522 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor To be clear I'm not saying Superman is smarter than Thor. My argument is that Age does not always equal wisdom, I'll expand that more later , but more interesting, if you would play along, would be to test your "faith" in Thor. I'm going to set up a few battles if you would like to pick a winner and explain how Thor wins (or doesn't win), I think it would be interesting.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 403507 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Fair enough
wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 1 y and 404848 m
Superman vs Thor
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Superman @SirSpidey: I'm just going to respond to all your "debunks" with this. The God of Thunder was once very powerful and an excellent match for The Man of Steel, but he is currently at the weakest he has ever been. He is unworthy of Mjolnir and incapable of most of the things you have talked about. So if you want to talk about what is canon, Thor would clearly loose in his current state.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 404604 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor LOL, thats all you've got? That Thor is Unworthy right now? Okay, yes, Thor is currently Unworthy, but we are not talking about that version of Thor, we are talking about the canon Worthy Thor. Whats the point of pitting an Unworthy Thor against a full powered Superman. That wouldn't be fun or fair at all. You seem like you've given up on this debate. Respond to me with some notable feats that Superman has accomplished. Show me something that will convince me that Superman is more powerful. If you cant do that, you are officially a full blown fanboy and only voted for Superman because you like him more. There is no logical reasoning and well thought out arguments with you Superman fanboy, just stupidity
wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 1 y and 404581 m
Superman vs Thor
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Superman If you want to talk about that version of Thor then I guess we can talk about pre-crisis Superman
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 404209 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor No, you cannot. Pre-Crisis Superman in not canon. All of the feats he had accomplished then have been erased and forgotten about according to the new DC continuity and canonical timeline. If you really wanted to, you could create a forum over Pre-Crisis Superman vs Worthy Thor, but thats your problem. In this battle it is New 52 Superman vs Worthy Thor, as it has always been
wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 1 y and 400669 m
Superman vs Thor
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Superman I can't really say anything right now then since I haven't been following the New 52 Superman stuff, but I am starting to get into Rebirth, so I'll get back to you
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 400640 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor I completely understand. New comics just aren't as fascinating as the old ones
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 258540 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor So @wolfdragon123, how are your debunks comings?
wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 1 y and 258512 m
Superman vs Thor
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Superman Lol I haven't even begun reading any Superman stuff yet. I'm still trying to catch up with the DC Metal and Doomsday Clock issues
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 258369 m
Superman vs Thor
3 year member
Thor So you are voting for Superman because you like him more?
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amar4321 1 y and 425456 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor Thor win
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Justice17 1 y and 426366 m
Superman vs Thor
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Superman This shouldn't even be a fuckin question. Supes just breathes on Thor and he is flying into another universe.
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LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y and 426281 m
Superman vs Thor
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Thor You really don't understand how things work, do you? This would be a hard fought fight, and Superman would win, but not in the way you'd described. The way you described it is as if Superman is fighting a street-level character, of which Thor is very much not.
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 442468 m
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Thor I think Thor has an edge but many of you are using a faulty argument that age= intelligence. It does not. (And the truly original version of Thor is as dumb as a box of rocks)
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 442295 m
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Thor You cannot just sit there and tell us that if you were to be several thousand years old you would be stupider than a 30 year old man. Geez, I just challenge all of you Superman fanboys to at least come up with a half decent argument. Come up with something that at least has a tiny bit of logic to it
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 406652 m
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Thor Not a superman fan boy by any stretch, I'd give Thor the edge in this fight. If anything way more of a marvel fan boy. But again age does not equal wisdom. Sometimes, ideally (maybe even often, it does. But it isn't a blanket statement; is Thor smarter than Reed Richards or Lex Luthor or Hank Pym?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 405528 m
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Thor Age does equal wisdom. Age also equals experience. Experience, wisdom, and age all equal knowledge. Experience, wisdom, age, and knowledge all equal intelligence. This is called logical deduction. You should learn it. Please answer this question, is a several thousand plus year old man smarter, or is a 30 year old man smarter? Thor is actually smarter than Reed Richards, Lex Luthor, and Hank Pym, but only in his own way. Thor can easily out smart them in battle. Thor can easily out smart them in a general knowledge exam. Thor can easily out smart them in a History exam. Reed Richards, Lex Luthor, and Hank Pym may be smarter at science, but none of them could ever compare to Thor in general knowledge and on the battlefield
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 404565 m
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Thor Thank you for your well thought out response. We could probably go back and forth forever on this point, but I still stand by that while Thor may be, not every several hundred or thousand year old character is smarter or wiser or more skilled than "normal" aged characters. (Somewhat similar often big characters are stronger, but definitely not always) I 100% agree with you on the different types of intelligence, that is a point often ignored. And if I may SirSpidey, you make excellent points, have a fantastic depth of knowledge, you don't need to throw insults or personal attacks into you debates so quickly, at times I think it diminishes from your otherwise solid arguments. Have a great day.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 404141 m
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Thor Im sorry, I got a bit carried away. I just dont understand how a several thousand plus year old GOD is stupider than a 30 year old alien. Its just not logical
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Maja 1 y and 442563 m
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Thor I can't believe superman wins????
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plaidcoolflyer
plaidcoolflyer 1 y and 441967 m
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Thor Believe it my dude.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 400872 m
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Superman Good Answer @plaidcoolflyer
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Ac4 1 y and 446431 m
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Thor Thor is a fucking god
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plaidcoolflyer
plaidcoolflyer 1 y and 441964 m
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Thor That's still not enough.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y and 446449 m
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Thor Thor's magic is a trump card against supes
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Blue_Lantern 1 y and 462755 m
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Thor Superman is canonically weak to magic, and thor commands magic lightning
otherwise their stats are similar enough that the fact that thor has his magic is enough to tip it in his favor
Akephalos
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Superman From what i know Wolverine is faster than Thor and the God of Thunder has been described as slow as the clouds in the sky. Supes is faster than light and got reaction time good enough to catch bullets and talk with Flash (wich reaction time is an attosecond [thatΒ΄s a lot]) in Super Speed.
I saw a Black Panther comic in wich Thor was K.O.ed by a sniper shot. Superman is invunerable to bullets since always basically...
I can also remember Hulk grabing ThorΒ΄s Hammer from the ground and tossing it at ThorΒ΄s face knocking him out in The Supremes i think. I also saw in the internet how Hulk defeated Thor twice by holding his hand and smashing his hammer at ThorΒ΄s face.
Outside of this i only saw of what MCU Thor is capable. I also remember an old Hulk live action that Thor is pathethic as a fighter.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 442305 m
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Thor Well, Thors hammer transcends both time and space so Superman is not going to be able to see it. Mjolnir would be pounding Superman into a pulp without Superman even knowing. Not only that, but Mjolnir would be doing all of this in no specified amount of time since Mjolnir transcends time. So basically, Superman is dead once the battle begins because in the "eyes" of Mjolnir, time is stopped
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SuperBear 1 y and 475278 m
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Thor Easy. The only reason I say Thor is because he's a GOD. He's got all of Asgard at his disposal if he wants. Even in 1v1, Thor is as strong, plus can control LIGHTNING! How about that, Supes? ;)
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 400869 m
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Superman So you are saying all Thor needs to win is almost equal strength and lightning? Nope.
thehulk
thehulk 1 y and 482385 m
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Superman Kryptonian
thehulk
thehulk 1 y and 482386 m
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Superman A Thunder GOD vs Kryptonian?
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Ac4 1 y and 485347 m
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Thor thor would so win
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Steve011 1 y and 521690 m
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Thor THOR WINS!!!.
Reasons:1.Superman has been defeated by
shazam.
2.Thor has defeated Shazam.
THOR >SHAZAM>SUPERMAN
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wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 1 y and 521646 m
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Superman When did Thor defeat Shazam?
plaidcoolflyer
plaidcoolflyer 1 y and 441960 m
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Thor Superman kills Shazam in Injustice: Gods Among Us.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 398093 m
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Superman First of all, Superman has beaten Shazam, Shazam has beaten Superman. Second, when has Thor beaten Shazam? Third, if Thor has beaten Shazam then that means we are talking crossover comics in which case Superman beat Thor in a JLA+Avengers crossover comic and that ends the debate right there.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 389780 m
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Thor Except those Marvel/DC crossovers are not canon
thehulk
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Superman Well think about this, Superman has done countless things for the earth and don't you think he would be worthy? Superman can heat vision thor till thor is weakened and then Superman would lay the smackdown and thor would put up a good fight but Superman is just a better fighter and so much stronger. in one comic series Superman killed all of the justice league and the green lantern corps. The odds are just on Supermans side.
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LordTracer
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Thor I don't know what comic you're talking about, but it's clearly non-canon. Also, it wouldn't matter that Superman is worthy (he is, I won't disagree). He wouldn't be able to get the hammer away from Thor. And he can't "heat vision thor till thor is weakened" when he keeps battering it away with Mjolnir.
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Georgej2017 1 y and 536043 m
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Thor Everybody thinks Superman is so invincible so there needs to be somebody to beat him.
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plaidcoolflyer
plaidcoolflyer 1 y and 441962 m
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Thor Iron Man and Batman can take down Superman.
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ThunderFlameOdinson 1 y and 551140 m
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Thor There far too many fanboys for Superman. Think about it like this, Superman would get his ass handed to him 5x in a row, he would be defeated by Silver Surfer, with not much problem. Thor would do the same to Silver Surfer and already has... So imagine what Thor would do to Superman. Thor is a very underrated character smh.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 577317 m
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Superman To those who voted Thor, Superman isn't WEAK to magic but is just as vulnerable to it as pretty much everyone else. Thor is a magic based hero, but he doesn't really use magic when attacking. Superman would win because he is stronger, faster, more intelligent, and has a wider variety of powers. But everyone has to give the edge to Thor when it comes to combat.
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SirSpidey
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Thor If magic is a vulnerability, as you said, it is a weakness. If you dont think Thor uses magic in his attacks, you know nothing of Thor and have likely never read one Thor comic. Thor has better feats of strength and speed, as seen in the comics, so how can Superman be stronger and faster? How can a 30 year old, Earth raised alien be smarter than a god of thousands of years of age? Superman has solar radiation absorbtion, super strength, super speed, super agility, super reflexes, invulnerability, flight, heat vision, longevity, self-sustenance, super breath, super senses, and various visions. Thor has godlike strength, invulnerability, near infinite speed, super stamina, super senses, amazing regenerative healing factor (can too regenerate his clothing), longevity, super breath, flight, self-sustenance, control over Earth, transcends dimensions, vast energy manipulation, elektrokinesis, rain manipulation, memory alteration, and the all-tongue. So no, Suoerman does not have a wider variety if powers. Plus Thor has all the countless other powers that Mjolnir grants him.
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TheTrueSuperman 1 y and 400701 m
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Superman @SirSpidey I just wrote about a 600-word response to why I believe Superman would win, and when I clicked post it didn't go through and deleted all of my comment which sucks. Basically, in the comment, I proved with facts how Superman is faster than Thor. I also proved why he is smarter or rather uses his smarts better than Thor. I then went on and explained how Superman is also Stronger and flat out more Powerful than Thor. But then I explained how in combat Thor takes the cake easy. I then had a list of like 10 different websites for sources and finished it by explaining how in a JLA+Avengers crossover Thor and Superman fought, and Superman was barely victorious.
If you really want to see all of my explainings for each of these reasons just tell me and I will retype all of it, but until then I am just letting you know I actually do have some pretty darn good reasons for why I believe Superman would win.
JuggarNot
JuggarNot 1 y and 400679 m
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Thor I gotta say as someone who is watching you and SirSpidey battle here I wouldn't mind seeing that 600 word response (type it in word then cut and paste so you don't lose it again).
SirSpidey
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Thor @TheTrueSuperman: I agree with @JuggarNot. Anyone can say that they wrote a big, long, and elaborate response complete with facts (For all I know your just flat out lying to me because you don't have references to comic book issues so therefore you just think that making up excuses will work. Ya, I've got your number). Actually doing it is what counts
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BoyoWo1127 1 y and 596621 m
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Thor THOR WINS
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bananaman 1 y and 597067 m
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Thor uh dudes one thor has lost an eye two he has no hammer anymore and three he is more powerful than odin
#SPOILER FOR THOR RAGNAROCK
btw asgard also gets blown up
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SilverSisu 1 y and 612453 m
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Thor Current Superman vs thor = Thor easily
Post Crisis Superman vs Thor = Could go either way but i think Superman would win regular Thor after a good fight but loses to Rune King thor.
Pre Crisis Superman vs Thor = Superman quite easily.
Pre Crisis Superman vs Rune king Thor = 50/50. Propably Thor after long fight.
And This is coming from a longtime Superman fan but i don't let Fanboyism cloud my judgment like 90 % of those Superman fanboys. It annoys me when they claim that Superman does not have limits.
#Ready for the shitstorm
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SpiderGwenIsTerrible 1 y and 628124 m
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Thor Thor uses magic one superman weaknesses. They're similar in power Thor has a huge advantage because of magic
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JayDaThug27 1 y and 634392 m
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Thor Thor will take this in a good fight, his true power and abilites are rarely ever shown. Unlike supermans
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Thor Superman is already weak to magic. Superman is also only really strong in earth. Thor can, with ease change the whole earth by summoning a portal or summoning himself and superman to a kryptonite planet or red sun. And even if superman somehow weakens thor enough, thor will enter warriors madness and crush him, because his intent to kill is 10x stronger as is his actual strength. It's a good win for thor. Not too much of a hard battle for thor either.
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SpiderGwenIsTerrible 1 y and 628123 m
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Thor Exactly
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 681518 m
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Thor So, now that intelligence is out of the way, lets move onto strength. My vote is clearly with Thor because he has better feats of strength, as we all know, but what about y'all. Who do y'all think should have a better score in strength?
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 659585 m
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Thor Who do yall think?
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BoyWonder 1 y and 695113 m
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Thor Superman is extremely vulnerable to magic and Thor is basically the embodiment of magic. See Avengers vs JLA
jongensoden
jongensoden 1 y and 701162 m
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Thor thor has magic and electricity he win
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SpiderGwenIsTerrible 1 y and 711444 m
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Thor Speed door thor=100
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SpiderGwenIsTerrible 1 y and 711444 m
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Thor Speed door thor=100
wolfdragon123
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Superman @EMPBlondie0812: How would Thor get that knowledge? And I don't think even Odin has the level of knowledge that Batman has in the Mobius Chair.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 738102 m
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Thor What hes trying to say is that Thor is supposed to become more poerful than his father which would mean he would be smarter
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Spectre94 1 y and 779556 m
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Superman This entire debate just boils down to Thor fanboys wanting there favorite character to be better then the Man of Steel.
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SirSpidey
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Thor No, @Spectre94, youve got it all wrong. Were just trying to make the database a little bit better by making it more logical and accurate. It doesnt make sense why an alien who is 30 years old is smarter than a god who is thousands of years old and has knowledge of all 10 realms. Of course you wouldnt realize this because you are blinded by your fanboyesque mentality
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brucettewayne 1 y and 611123 m
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Superman i second tht
TheOverlord
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Thor @SirSpidey Thor only has that high of intelligence when he is another person. As himself in his usual form he is just a brute with extreme fighting skill and combat knowledge. He only displays intelligence when he is another person, so unless he is going to stop in the middle of a fight and turn in Blake so he can outsmart his opponent he doesn't deserve a 100 in intelligence. Because it isn't thor being intelligent, it is Donald Blake. That is why If I asked thor how many valence electrons are in a sunflower he'd say "I know not what a valinse elektron is" But Tony Stark would say "Depends on the size and molecular density of the sunflower as well as it's geographic location and what time of day it is."
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 765743 m
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Thor Even if Thor isnt in the form of Donald Blake, he is still much smarter than an alien who has been on Earth for only 30 years
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God_of_Thunder 1 y and 790203 m
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Thor I think in general his Intelligence and expirience is underrated, it should be a high score but not highest.
The highest scores are used to often and should be limited to less characters in my mind.
Writers often writs Thor looking a bit stupid using only brute strength not even his Versatility as a warrior God !
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God_of_Thunder 1 y and 790204 m
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Thor The God of Thunder is of course a warrior God first of all. The very purpose of his existence is to be his pantheons greatest warrior.
The protector of nine realms inclueding Midgard earth.
He is raised to become a king one day, to rule the plane etarnal. He knows a lot about magic and the nine realms. The very nature of Asgard and his existence is magical. A simple short explanation of his character is a magical warrior God !
Skilled in warfare tactics and also got expirience from several thousend years.
About more science based nature of knowledge i think the writing is more inconcistant. The God have used the knowledge of Blake even years after thisΒ  conection was ended. I would say that his knowledge about science is fair but not impressive.
remy94
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Superman Good @Overlord when he strikes his cane upon the floor Donald Blake becomes the god of thunder a warrior god with vast knowledge of combat and the nine realms. When in he is in is mortal form of Donald Blake (witch is no longer cannon) he has vast knowledge of medicine and science. Thor dose not retain Blakes intellect nor dose Donald retain Thors knowledge.
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SirSpidey
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Thor @remy94: I like how you piggy back off of other peoples comments. Why couldn't you say what @TheOverlord said before him? Because of your lack of knowledge of Thor, correct? Also, why is everything, "Oh, thats not canon" with you and your brother? Marvel isnt like DC where they had to erase 80 years worth of comic book continuity and make a complete different continuity. Marvels canon extends all the way back to its roots in 1939. Ya, there might have been some minor changes here and there but for the most part it has been the same since its origin. Of course you wouldnt know this because you solely read DC comics but now you know
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Superman @SirSpidey Thor dropped his dual identity as Donald Blake, this is why it isn't cannon. I do not agree that a warrior god with a mental instability, that has spent his entire life just learning how to fight monsters, is more intelligent then a super intelligent Alien that has spent his life studying the stars.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 765750 m
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Thor Marvel has not copletely erased the whole idea of Donald Blake like the writers of DC would have most likely done. It is still in the canon of the Marvel universe. Lol, if you think Thor has a mental instability and has spent his whole life fighting monsters, you clearly need to do more reading on Thor. Give me one instance where Superman has gone out of his way and studied the stars. Just one is what im asking for
TheOverlord
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Thor @SirSpidey in that issue Donald Blake becomes Thor because his walking stick is linked with mjolnir. Only because of that walking stick are they linked. Once they become unbound Thor retains his standard intelligence and does not keep Donald's intelligence because Donald is becoming Thor and Thor is becoming Donald. When Thor becomes Donald he gains Donalds knowledge while he is in that form, and when Donald becomes Thor he has Thor's knowledge and powers. When they are separate they only know what they know as themselves. That is true through the entire series as Loki outsmarts Thor while he is Thor but when Donald becomes Thor then he outsmarts Loki. (Issue 85)
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SirSpidey
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Thor @TheOverlord: That doesnt mean he cant learn from what Donald Blake is doing. I think your forgetting the whole purpose of Odin creating Donald Blake. He created Donald Blake to be the Earthly host for Thor so that Thor could see how insignificant and powerless the human being is. He wanted Thor to know, learn, and experience humility. Even if Thor didnt retain knowledge from the mind of Donald Blake, which he has, it doesnt matter because Thor can always switch back to Donald Blake and Donald Blake can do whatever scientific or medical deed Thor needs done. Its just like Firestorm.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y and 779725 m
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Thor This, I think, gives Thor a 100 in intelligence. Plus he has knowledge of all 10 realms, knowledge of complex Earthly systems of electronics that he can use for his own purposes, and thousands of years of experience. All of this should at least make him smarter than a 30 year old alien who was raised and gained all his knowledge from Earth, unlike a god who not only has extreme knowledge about Earth, but much knowledge of the other 9 realms. So, all in all, Supermans intellect should be dropped about 40 points or Thors intellect should be raised 30 points or if your @Spectre94, Thors intelligence should be raised 40 points
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Spectre94 1 y and 791060 m
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Superman @Galactus could you please give Thor 110 in intelligence for these Thor fanboys πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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SirSpidey
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Thor @Spectre: Please tell me why Thor shouldnt have a 110 in intellect
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EMPBlondie0812 1 y and 744228 m
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Thor And these Thor fanboys will have you know that Thor is the son of Odin, who can control time it's self and has vast knowledge. He even knows the meaning of life and death it's self. Thor will soon posses the knowlege of Odin and have the intelligence to rival Batman in the Morbeus chair.
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Superman @SirSpidey I've asked you several times to give me a reference to Thor having the intellect of Daniel Blake, that is up to date, but so far you have given me nothing. Thor is a magical based character but not the embodiment of magic, all of his magical capabilities come from objects (Mjolnir, the belt of strength) I do agree that Thor is vastly intelligent but with his mental instability means his intelligence is going to be lower about 70%. Warriors madness is also one of Thor's main abilities why are you trying to take that away?
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SirSpidey
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Thor @remy94: Here is your reference, which I have already given to you, Journey Into Mystery #83 through present day. Your right, hes not the embodiment of magic, I said hes "PRACTICALLY AN embodiment of magic". That doesnt mean he is. But every ability and every weapon he posseses is magic in nature, just like his godly energies. Even Asgard is magical in nature. But of course you wouldnt know this due to a lack of knowledge on Thor. And if ALL of Thors magical capabilities come from his weapons and equipment, then how did he create a blast with his bare hands more powerful than the likes of Mjolnir? Lol, your saying that Thor has mental instabilities? Yes, there is a VERSION of Thor where he goes practically insane and unleashes his true power, but that is not the same version of sane Thor. Im not trying to take away an ability from Thor, Im just saying Warriors Madness Thor is a completely different version of Thor. Thats why they made a name for when Thor goes into that state
SirSpidey
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Thor Also, if you are wanting to debate the intellect of Warriors Madness Thor you should create a forum for that debate but for right now we are talking about regular, sane Thor. I also think you should do some more reading on Thor before you start commenting things like Thor isnt magic or he doesnt know as much about magic as Loki. These are things someone would already know if he has read Thor comics. So, all in all, Thor deserves a 100 in intellect due to: β€’ 1 - Thousands of years of experience β€’ 2 - Knowledge of all 10 realms β€’ 3 - Knowledge of complex Earthly ststems of electronics that he can use to aid himself, much like Iron Man β€’ 4 - The intellect and experience given to him by Donald Blake who has built a robot with an IQ of 375 and is known as one of the best surgeons in the world who graduated from Med-School at Harvard University
SirSpidey
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Thor Thor has learned complex Earthly systems of electronics while he was with Tony Stark. Lol, now your swithing your opinions. In one comment your saying that Thor isnt magical and now your saying he is? Cmon, lets keep up a well thought out and logical debate. All Im trying to say is that Thor is a genius in the arts of war and he is also a genius in the arts of medicine, electronics, and science because of his gifted intellect given to him by Donald Blake. So yes, Thor is a science based character given that Thor has had the intellect of Donald Blake almost since his creation.
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Superman Please give me a reference to Thor using the genius level intellect of Daniel Blake witch is up to date. Thor is a warrior god and a magical based character, not a science based character as Iron man for example. All of Thor's magical powers come from Mjolnir, all of his other powers come from his godly life force. When insane and completely mindless you are not going to be using your intelligence, warriors madness brings down Thor's intelligence a bit don't you think? the point I'm trying to make is that compared to Odin, Loki, Read Richards, Doctor Strange, Thor is not that knowledgeable about the realms, magic or science as these characters.
SirSpidey
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Thor @wolfdragon123/remy94: Intelligence can be many things. I could argue that if someone is knowledgeable, he is intelligent. And Thor is wise which means he is knowledgeable. And like @God_of_Thunder said, Thor has the intelligence of Donald Blake who built an android that had an IQ of 375 (183 points more than Batmans IQ, it almost doubles Batmans IQ) and could withstand blows from Mjolnir. Also, the time spent with the Avengers, more specifically Tony Stark, gave him great knowledge of complex Earthly systems of electronics and the ability to modify the systems for his own purposes. Add all the knowledge of all 10 realms and thousands of years of experience, and you get someone who is one of the most knowledgeable and intelligent beings to ever exist on Earth
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CapricornX102igz 1 y and 795871 m
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Thor @SirSpidey perfect!
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Superman @SirSpidey yes he is wise and knowledgeable but there are characters more intelligent. Compared to many characters in his universe Thor is not that bright. And as I said before he is arrogant, unstable, and even insane at times, these are vulnerables other heroes don't have. Since Thor is a warrior god, most of his knowledge goes to combat, not science or magic.
SirSpidey
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Thor @remy94: If someone is intellectual, he knows a ton. The whole point of learning is to KNOW what you are trying to learn. If you dont KNOW what your trying to learn, your not learning. When were talking about intelligence, it all boils down to how much someone knows. The point Im trying to make is that Thor knows a ton which would in the end make Thor extremely intelligent. Plus he has the intelligence of Donald Blake which would make him all that much more intelligent in the realm of electronics, science, and medicine. What does arrogance and insanity (which every character is at times) have to do with intelligence? I dont understand, please explain. And considering Thor is practically an embodiment of magic, Im pretty sure he knows a vast amount of what and who he is, which is, of course, magic
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Superman Being insane means your mental state is low, but for Thor this makes him a more powerful warrior, witch is the point of the character to be a warrior god not a genius. He is not the embodiment of magic as you call him, all of his magical capabilities come from Mjolnir. Can you please tell me when Thor has used the intellect of Daniel Blake?
SirSpidey
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Thor I understand what insanity is, I just dont understand what it has to do with intelligence. Do you think that after Thor is done with his Warriors Madness state he isnt as smart? Thor is a genius in the arts of war and is a genius in the arts of medicine, electronics, and science because of the intelligence granted to him by Donald Blake. He also has knowledge of all 10 realms and has thousands of years of experience under his belt. Also, if Thor himself isnt an embodiment of magic and all his magic comes from Mjolnir, then how did Thor create a blast more powerful than Mjolnir with his bare hands? Thor has used the intelligence of Donald Blake beginning from Jouney Into Mystery #83 through prestent day. I dont know what your trying to poont out by that question
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Superman Yes I agree, but Thor is definitely not on the same level of loki or Odin in the knowledge of magic. As I said he is a warrior god first and foremost, not a sorcerer or scientists. And most if not all of Thor's magical powers and abilities were endowed upon him, and characters as Loki actually study and practiced in magic for thousands of years.
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Superman And Mjolnir grants Thor dimensional travel, it isn't a magical spell he learned to say or do, as the likes of Doctor Strange have done.
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remy94 1 y and 804562 m
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Superman Yes they can access information but that doesn't give Thor anymore intelligence dose it? The difference is that Superman actually sits down and studies the information here has, Thor uses it if needed.
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CapricornX102igz 1 y and 803762 m
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Thor Dude! The knowledge Thor and the Asgardians learn are 90% mostly magical stuff. Compare that to what Superman is learning and it's completely different things. Now the question is, which knowledge will help the combatant in the battlefield? I'll go for magic because magic is very very difficult to counter.
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CapricornX102igz 1 y and 804641 m
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Thor @remy94 You have a point, but then again the Asgardians don't need to memorize everything as they do have an information repository where they can just access information from. Kinda like Superman's crystal hard drives. I thought he knows some powerful magic like conjuring a gateway to other realms by his hammer and doing other stuff with it. That can be considered advanced magic, right?
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remy94 1 y and 804911 m
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Superman I think the stats of the god of thunder are accurate, Thor is above all else a warrior god, and spent his whole life training to be the greatest warrior of his people. he is not that knowledgeable of magic compared to his brother Loki, who spent his life training in this field, and is not even close to knowing as much about nine realms as his father Odin. Thor is also at times arrogant, rash, unstable, and even insane this seems to be a weakness of all gods in the Marvel universe. He is also never stated to have perfect recall. This I think puts his intelligence at 70 at most.
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God_of_Thunder 1 y and 805556 m
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Thor Even this sites is not concistent and realy accurate as Wolfdragon in some way explained. In the comics Thor is able to have have advantage of Dr Donald Blakes Intelligence who is a surgeon and have also built an android.
The expirience and knowledge of thousends of years he of course is very intelligent.
To note is that this inconcistant writing is of course not limited to Mighty Thor
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wolfdragon123 1 y and 805666 m
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Superman On the official Marvel website, Thor has a 2 out of 7 in intelligence. A 2 is equivalent to normal. I personally do not agree with this and think that it should be a 3 or a 4 (which is "learned" and "gifted") because he does have above average intelligence, but he doesn't really go out of his way to learn new things unless he has to.
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wolfdragon123 1 y and 805678 m
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Superman Intelligence is what you know and how easily you can learn new things, but wisdom is using your personal experiences to properly apply that intelligence.
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SirSpidey 1 y and 805798 m
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Thor @CapricornX102igz: Amen! Finally, someone who gets it. People always underrate the power of Thor and all the other Asgardians. If Thor has been around thousands of years, there is absolutely no way he cant be smarter then an alien who was raised and gained all his knowledge on Earth and has been on it for only 30 or 40 years. Lol, thats just ridiculous. Thor has knowledge of all 10 realms and has been around thousands of years. And like Capricorn said, if someone has wisdom, he has much knowledge
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CapricornX102igz 1 y and 806028 m
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Thor @thinkoutsidethebox LOL at you dude! What's wrong with you? Me being annoying? What makes Kryptonians more gifted than Asgardians? Wisdom comes from knowing things, or maybe you missed that in class, huh? That's why the Asgardians have the Odin Force and a whole lot of other magic that will make Kryptonians look like 5-year olds fighting a huge dinosaur. I have not heard any Kryptonian take on someone like Galactus before, have you? And Superman will literally die if he faced the Allfather. But Thor doesn't have to bring his family into this fight, he can just enter into warrior madness mode and amp his strength using the belt of strength Megingjord to bitchslap Superman like a bleeding little b*tch!
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thinkoutsidethebox 1 y and 813883 m
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Superman @CapricornX102igz honestly ur very annoying and very ignorant. pls stop ur baised towards marvel. kryptonians learn at a very very fast rate, he can reach the knowledge bat man has acquired in mere months if he actually tried and studied. thor even as old as he is, only gained wisdom not knowledge, some knowledge, but he would be the equivalent as a normal human in terms of intelligence, he's not that smart and doesn't think things through in a fight, superman actually tries to strategize fights. thor does have the will and worthiness to make up for it and the power as well.
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CapricornX102igz 1 y and 814811 m
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Thor Why is Superman more intelligent than Thor? Thor has acquired thousands of years worth of knowledge! He is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy above Superman in this area.
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mekkaxko 1 y and 853674 m
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Thor A mix between a elder god and a skyfather plus Having thousand of years of fighting experience versus a 30-40 year Old Alien?? Come on!
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Jordz808 1 y and 864796 m
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Thor Thor would smash superman. Thor is jus as strong if not stronger, has magic, is more durable and is A GOD. Superman get more vote because he's popular, that's it. If worst comes to worst, anyone can kill superman jus sprinkle some crytonite on him
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Caesar6994 1 y and 896406 m
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