BatmanvsCaptain America

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494 wins (62.1%)
Batman Bruce Wayne
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302 wins (37.9%)
Captain America Steve Rogers
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aidenscoool
Batman vs Captain America
Captain America cap is easily stronger than batman, but if batman has time to think it out bat wins
Platypus
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Captain America If it’s just a random encounter that breaks into a fight, Cap wins by a landslide. Batman is a fit guy obviously. Captain America is a legitimate superhero that trains essentially just as hard as Batman but in addition has significantly greater strength and reflexes. He’s Batman times three. Cap is gonna break the bat the same way Bane has. Sure, Bane has more strength than Captain America generally but Cap beats HIM out in every other physical aspect. Cap could assess any attack coming from Batman and adapt quickly enough to instantaneously change his strategy and best Batman. Not to mention Cap’s shield. One good trick shot or direct hit in any way to Bruce’s head and you’ve got a severely concussed Batman at minimum. Just because vibranium might not pierce Batman’s cowl that’s still a hell of a lot of force and basic physics says that that hit is gonna be severe. Batman isn’t made like Colossus. Cap wins.
Speedster_Shahm
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Batman i choose captain America by wrong and i want to update my vote and it sayes " Oops, couldn't update your vote."
why?
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Dhruv
Dhruv 23 d
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Captain America @Speedster_Shahm Click on captain america again to disable your vote. Then it will show that you didn't vote for this battle and then you can vote for batman. So first click on cap's vote to disable it and then vote for batman.
Speedster_Shahm
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Batman it worked thnx
Dhruv
Dhruv 23 d
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Captain America No problem. Glad to help.
Taurus
Taurus 21 d
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Captain America Don't know why it's like this as it certainly wasn't before.
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 11 d
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Captain America I Vote Cap just to even up the votes
Prophet
Prophet 1 mo 13 d
Batman vs Captain America
Batman Captain america cant beat Batman, Batman can near the combat level of cap but with gadgets and abitities Batman walks over cap without doubt.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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Captain America Gadgets aren't the answer to everything
u8
u8comfyp 1 mo 24 d
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Batman Bruce wins no problem cap may have good combat but Bruce has better and that is all he needs.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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Captain America Bruce wins because he "has better"?
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 2 mo 10 d
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Batman This is base versions
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Mrmos3013 2 mo 15 d
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not voted I'm gonna have to say Bruce on this one. Bruce is very intelligent and I think he'd stop for a second and think out each and every move he does, even in a random encounter. Bruce would probably win, I'd say, 76% of the time.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 3 mo 14 d
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Batman Here's my take on the fight (updated)
Batman fights his physical superiors all the time and still comes out on top.
If he can sneak around Superman's super hearing he could absolutely ambush or get the drop on Cap.

Batman knows how to use his environment to his advantage and is also more intelligent. Cap doesn't have many weapons of his own while Batman has a whole belt full of them, which could turn the tide such as electric gloves, explosive batarangs, and smoke bombs. Cap has his shield, but not something like an adamantium sword that could cut through Batman's armor.
These two characters both have some of the strongest will around, so this is no easy fight. Cap is Batman's physical superior no question, but Batman has the brains, superior h2h and weapon-based combat training, and gadgets that would give him the win.
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 14 d
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Batman Exactly how i see it
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 13 d
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Captain America @Mr_Incognito This is going to be a random encounter however and many people don't realise how extraordinarily fast CA's mind works. He can take 1 glace at his surroundings at analyse potential ways he'd be attacked. CA has taken explosions like that before and gotten over them.
@jong You've always argued against CA being Batman's physical superior.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 3 mo 13 d
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Batman @Jon You have been very adamant about Batman being on the same level as Cap physically. That isn't true. I'm glad you agree with me now, but I'm a little skeptical that you see it exactly how I do.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 13 d
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Captain America I will admit if things played out like @Mr_Incognito said then CA could lose but the circumstances have to play out exactly in his favour for that to work and more often than not it won't. Also most of the physically superior beings Batman's fought aren't anything like CA.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 12 d
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Batman Why did i get no notification? I currently think Cap is stronger but he is not 100 times stronger it's close
Galactus
Galactus 3 mo 12 d
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Batman @Jongensoden Because the original comment isn't yours, and the mention didn't have your full name.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 3 mo 8 d
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Batman @Mr_Incognito Your explanation is by far the best I've noticed today.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 6 d
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Captain America We've never said he's 100x stronger. He's not Iron Man
ThomasMHxDeaf
ThomasMHxDeaf 3 mo 15 d
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Captain America My bad. I think Captain America wins. He is strength, tough and agility.
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 15 d
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Batman So is batman
ThomasMHxDeaf
ThomasMHxDeaf 3 mo 15 d
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Captain America I know Batman have master martial artist. And Deathstroke (Slade Wilson) is stronger and master martial artist. I saw Deathstroke versus Green Arrow or Batman.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 15 d
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Batman Batman has beaten deathstroke before
ThomasMHxDeaf
ThomasMHxDeaf 3 mo 15 d
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Captain America I did change vote. People most vote to Batman. Good Games. @jongensoden
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 3 mo 15 d
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Captain America Cap is stronger, faster, more durable, more agile, and equally as good of a fighter.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 14 d
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Batman The Psychically advantages are slight Batman his gear combat and intelligence is to much
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 3 mo 14 d
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Captain America They are not slight. If you look at the feats, Cap takes the stat trio and it isn't even that close. Combat is basically equal. Tactical intelligence is definitely on the same tier. All Batman really has is gear and that's not enough to win.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 14 d
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Batman So far nobody showed something far above batman
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 14 d
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Captain America @jong Actually @Akhil and I have shown you repeatedly but you keep pretending we haven't.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 12 d
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Batman Most of the stuff was not far above or got debunked
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 6 d
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Captain America No it wasn't you just ignore it and repeat the same old stuff again and again. In the end we were able to change your mind though
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 6 d
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Batman When did you change my mind
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 6 d
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Captain America You denied CA being stronger and changed your vote to CA temporarily
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 15 d
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Batman Batman can use flashbangs or smoke bombs to distract Cap disarm him and beat him h2h
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 15 d
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Captain America CA would recover faster than Batman would realise leading to CA catching him and KO.
Dark_Wing
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Captain America What if he can't recover before Bruce gets close?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 6 d
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Captain America He can take a few hits given his physiology and punch back breaking Batman's ribs
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 6 d
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Batman He is not breaking his ribs Batman survived worse and came out without broken ribs
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 6 d
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Captain America CA has punched through stronger materials than his ribs. I didn't say it'd kill him though. Average humans in real life can survive that
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 6 d
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Batman And Batman survived hits from People who can destroy buildings
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 6 d
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Captain America I just said breaking ribs doesn't kill you
dog
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Captain America With prep time batman
Without prep time batman
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 3 mo 26 d
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Captain America This fight would be way closer than the votes show
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 26 d
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Batman The votes are already close tough
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 24 d
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Captain America Yes but they're skewed in the wrong direction.
Superboy1
Superboy1 4 mo 1 d
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Captain America Let's be honest, with prep, Batman all the way, but without prep, Cap is superior and will come out on top
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ThorMathews
ThorMathews 3 mo 28 d
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Captain America Agreed
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 3 mo 28 d
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Captain America Bats can take down anybody who is street level with prep
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 28 d
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Batman Batman is a way better fighter and has to much gadgets
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 28 d
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Captain America Batman can take out most heroes with prep
@jong They won't matter if he's physically outclassed
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 27 d
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Batman He has beaten his psychical superior before and People stronger then Cap current Batman is above deathstroke
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 27 d
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Captain America He hasn't consistantly beaten anyone who outclasses him physically.
He's still not above DS. He admitted he was distracted otherwise he wouldn't have lost.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 27 d
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Batman Rebirth Batman either stalemated deathstroke or beated him in every fight they had
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 27 d
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Captain America There's usually context as to why DS would lose.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 26 d
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Batman I Can send you all the scans on discord because they are alot
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 26 d
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Captain America If it's easier for you then yeah, send them my way.
ThorMathews
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Captain America Cap is physically superior in every way
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 4 mo 2 d
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Batman They are Psychically comparable with Batman being a better fighter and having more gear
NorrinRadd
NorrinRadd 3 mo 28 d
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Batman Well, they're both peak human so...
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 3 mo 28 d
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Captain America Batman is a slightly better fighter. Cap is beyond peak human, he has no fatigue toxin build up he can fight way longer than Batman. He can run 60 mph which is far beyond peak human lol.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 28 d
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Batman Uh batman Sees bullets in slow motion has Fought for 3 days peak human limit is higher in comics
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 28 d
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Captain America And if Batman can do that CA can definitely do that and then some. CA is now more than peak human
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 27 d
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Batman Im aware captain America can do that but that's not how it works because batman can do it don't mean captain America can so is batman who is now equal to deathstroke because of dionesium
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 27 d
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Captain America You said CA can do that but then it doesn't mean he can.
Dionesium isn't canon.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 27 d
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Batman I said he can but your logic was wrong dionesium is canon its mentioned multiple times in rebirth
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 27 d
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Captain America How is my logic wrong? I was talking about how you contradicted yourself.
The dionesium hasn't really shown to have changed him physically all that much.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 26 d
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Batman Dionesium actually changed him for example made him closer to deathstroke
Tyrannus
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Captain America He is improved now but from what I've seen still in the comics he's not quite on the same level yet physically. The difference hasn't been all that noticeable.
NorrinRadd
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Batman Numbers don't lie
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 6 d
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Captain America What numbers? You mean the feats CA's surpassed Batman in?
NorrinRadd
NorrinRadd 3 mo 28 d
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Batman No, the literal numbers...the votes
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 28 d
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Captain America Numbers aren't literal here and if you want to look at it that way then Iron Fist stomps Batman considering he has a much stronger lead over Batman in their votes.
NorrinRadd
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Batman Yeah, I agree...Iron Fist probably does beat Batman (unless Bruce is using one of his more powerful armors, which he would also curb-stomp Cap with)
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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Captain America What? But CA beat IF. So if CA>IF the CA>Batman.
MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 4 mo 6 d
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Batman I Think Bats WIns 6/10
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 4 mo 17 d
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Batman Lol at everyone saying cap is closer to deathstroke when rebirth deathstroke is equal to batman and stalemated him in multiple comics
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AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 17 d
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Captain America Stats. We're talking stats. Not skill.
Platypus
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Captain America The problem is you’re mentioning comics. Batman beats anyone the writer makes Batman beat. The writers could just as easily make deathstroke win or any other foe. As far as this battle goes, we are essentially the writer’s. We create the story. Captain America beats his foes in Captain America comics the same way that Batman beats his foes in Batman comics.
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Jongensoden
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Batman out of charachter if you bring that up batman could use his electricity from his suit to fry him or blow him up with explosives strong enough to destroy multiple city blocks
AkhilPDX
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Captain America The shield negates all of that. Cap is also much faster so if it's purely bloodlusted, then he can one-shot from the beginning.
Jongensoden
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Batman Shield wont negate electricity wich hits body
AkhilPDX
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Captain America It actually does.
Jongensoden
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Batman The shield is not as big as his whole body so how will the shield protect him from electricity coming from all of batman his suit frying his whole body
AkhilPDX
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Captain America 1) Cap can react quickly enough to avoid the electricity or block it.

2) He has taken electricity before and he's been fine.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 4 mo 19 d
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Batman 1 fair Point 2 how much volts?
NorrinRadd
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Batman Btw Batman was classified as a meta-human in 2017 after being exposed to dionesium metal (derived from Nth metal) for an extended period...he didn't gain "powers", but his abilities are now beyond human potential
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Tyrannus
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Captain America I think I know what comic that was but that's new 52
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 4 mo 20 d
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Batman he got regeneration powers
Tyrannus
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Captain America I know but that's no longer canon
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 4 mo 20 d
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Batman How is it not
Tyrannus
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Captain America Because New 52 isn't around anymore
NorrinRadd
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Batman Yes, you're both correct actually, he was able to regenerate to a greater degree than humans and it was from a previous storyline
ManofPower
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Captain America I used to think Batman until I became more fluent with the amazingly mind-blowing nature of comics.
NorrinRadd
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Batman Person A started strength training a few months ago and uses steroids. Person B has been training for years. Person A(merica) can now lift the same amount as person B(atman).
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Tyrannus
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Captain America Except CA didn't take steroids he took the SSS which makes you far beyond human capabilities.
Think of it this way, Batman's at 100% physical capacity that a human can achieve. CA is at 300%.
Dark_Wing
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Captain America False equivalents: Cap has been training in martial arts for years just like Bruce has. Before joining the army Steve went through what's basically comic book SEAL training and he went through multiple battles in WWII but his true training didn't start until after he joined the Avengers where he trained most of them in H2H combat. Point is Steve has been training arguably as long and as hard as Bruce.
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Jongensoden
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Batman There is no 300 100 is the max also no @Dark_Wing Batman has trained and studied in many things Cap did not he did not only master every Martial art on earth but also a few kryptonian and knows every pressure Point and nerve strike he also is trained in stealth interrogation techniques intimidation techniques he mastered every known weaponary he knows meditation Dim mak chi he has a bit knowledge on magic He has studied Biology,Technology, Mathematics, Physics, Mythology, Geography and History. Bruce gained degrees in Criminal Science, Forensic Sciences,computer Sciences,Chemistry,and Engineering by the time he was 21. He had mastered Diverse Environmental Training, Security Systems, and illusion/sleight of hand by the time he was 23. He gained even more degrees in Biology, Physics, Advanced Chemistry, and Technology by the time he was 25. He has also learned Medical Sciences and Expanded Computer and Engineering Science and way more so he had trained harder
Tyrannus
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Captain America @jong We've debunked that before. CA is beyond that. To say CA has not trained many things again shows a lack of knowledge on CA. Iron Fist is considered one of the best fighters in Marvel and CA threw him about when they fought.
Being academically smarter won't help too much in a fight.
Jongensoden
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Batman I just sayed batman is better trained Cap got the serum to get there he never trained
Tyrannus
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Captain America Saying he never trained just proved you don't know CA at all.
Jongensoden
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Batman Again putting words in my mouth i said batman had a harder training and trained more
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Captain America You said "Cap got the serum to get there he never trained"

I literally just proved he trained in the military.
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Captain America @jong You literally said "he never trained". @Dark_Wing just debunked that too
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Captain America @Tyr: when?
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Captain America You gave the link showing CA training. You literally just said you did before.
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Batman I was only referring to strength/physical abilities here...in the comic itself it said the SSS augmented him to the the peak of human abilities, so you're just making up the superhuman/300% thing...you can't argue with the original source material
Tyrannus
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Captain America Its not in the same sense to which Batman is. Your comparing it to steroids which is just wrong. The SSS was supposed to be more. A peak human wouldn't have been able to do the feats that CA has done
Jongensoden
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Batman a peak human also cant do the things batman does
AkhilPDX
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Captain America A comic book peak human can. Meanwhile, a peak human in comics can't do what Captain America does.
Jongensoden
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Batman Uh no i know multiple peak humans wich can also if he is no peak human in comics what is he ?
AkhilPDX
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Captain America Name them. Also, you know what Captain America is.
Jongensoden
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Batman He is not superhuman superhuman don't exist in comics like i proved before and even if you want to use it superhuman goes to charachters like captain britain or Spiderman who are 80 tonners Cap still falls under the peak human category
AkhilPDX
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Captain America Nice joke. You said it didn't exist and then you used it. You saying it doesn't exist doesn't make it non-existent. Cap is a superhuman. Not on the same level as Spider-Man or Captain Britain but he still is a superhuman and via his fights, his striking strength with that shield should be somewhat relative.
AkhilPDX
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Captain America You also didn't give me an answer to what I asked you to.
Jongensoden
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Batman Answer to what? Also no according to Marvel their definition he is peak human
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Captain America If that was the case then why can't normal trianed people beat CA
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Batman The steroids analogy is merely to say that a unique external factor was used. Bruce trained to get to peak human and Steve had an experiment performed on him to get to peak human, that's the only difference.

Batman's feats are just as impressive as Captain America's ...and are humanly impossible, but not according to the comics
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Captain America Completely wrong. Batman trained only. CA was boosted well beyond that and trained before and afterwards since improving himself further. If training can get you to SSS level then it defeats the purpose. It's not super.

All his feats have been rightfully surpassed by CA.
Jongensoden
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Batman It's not wrong Batman has litteraly comparable feats
Tyrannus
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Captain America All of which have been surpassed.
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Batman @ Jongensoden @norrinradd
I agree with you both.., Batman is clearly the better fighter..the only reason captain America is able to do what he does is the serum...it's like Bruce Lee vs someone triple his size on POWERFUL drugs...Bruce Lee would take him out quickly..Batman is like Bruce Lee but in the comics he's even better...
Tyrannus
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Captain America @Drmanhattan42 That's not a fair comparison because CA is also very well trained as well as being able to think faster. The h2h skill gap isn't that large.
ForJustice1324
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Batman Batman's got the advantage in intelligence and is a skilled fighter plus he's gadgets can help keep pace with Captain America.
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Jongensoden
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Batman Agreed
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NorrinRadd
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Batman That's more than really close, it's dead even
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Batman I agree with this site's classification/ranking... T'Challa > Bruce > Steve...but it's definitely close
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Tyrannus
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Captain America Steve is boosted and is generally accepted to be physically superior to Batman.
NorrinRadd
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Batman I consider them to be physically equal since they're both peak human. They've both been boosted at times.
Tyrannus
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Captain America Name the issue that Batman was boosted. CA is beyond that.
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Batman "Legends of the Dark Knight" issues # 15-20:
Took the original version of the Bane venom

"Superman & Batman: Generations" 1999:
Used the Lazarus pit

"Superman/Batman" #53-56 (2008):
Magically gained Superman's abilities in a fight with Banshee

"Trinity" (2008)
Bruce became a god called Atmahn the Night Judge

"Batman: The Dark Knight/ Knight Terrors" (2011):
Fear toxin gives him super strength, enough to hurt Superman in a fair fight

"Injustice: Gods Among Us Year Five" #25:
Batman takes synthesized version of Alex Luthor's 5-U-93-R drug and beats Superman into submission

"Justice League" #38:
Amazo virus

"Darkseid War" 2015:
Mobius chair makes him god of knowledge

Bruce has also been a green, yellow, and white lantern at different times
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Batman How can you say CA is beyond that, when you don't even know what "that" is?
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Batman Also in a Suicide Squad issue in 2017 he was classified as a meta-human
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Captain America None of those powers were permanent or part of continuity anymore. It was said by one person who didn't understand Batman. Many people get surprised when they realise Batman's just a guy in a suit.
I don't know why you brought up lanterns when this is base Batman
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Batman he is not just a guy in a suit he is more then that
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Captain America I know but I'm talking about how people see him in universe. Some of the thugs he faces don't know that.
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Batman Not only the thugs even many Heroes and villians who don't even fear superman fear him scarecrow who losed the emotion of fear because if overexposure of fear toxin lost his fear he is not even afraid of black lanterns but he is still afraid of batman even flash fears him Do criminals fear superman no they dont Because they know that all he will do is put them in prison and they would simply Break out again but they fear batman because he breaks their faces and leaves them paralyzed With punctured lungs After willpower his intimidation is what makes him batman
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Captain America Making Scarecrow be immune to all that but to then fear Batman is kind of fan pandering and is poor writing but its a minor point.
Batman would make a better yellow lantern than a green.
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Batman You said point out when he was boosted and I did. Storylines change all the time. Same goes for Cap, he could have been boosted in certain series, but who's to say it remains true in a new series. So if we're going with original main arcs they're both peak human.
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Captain America None of them were permanent or canon anymore so what's the point. That's like saying Spider-man wins because he had the power cosmic once.
If we go with base versions then CA is boosted more than a normal human
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Batman Base version Cap is peak human
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Captain America Did you miss the SUPER soldier part of the serum?
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Batman To say Cap is physically superior is one thing, (which I might be willing to concede and give him the slight edge), but to say he's as smart or smarter is so ridiculous. Batman is regularly considered to be in the top 10 or sometimes top 5 smartest people on earth in DC, & Cap is not even like top 30 in Marvel. Steve is definitely not smarter than Reed Richards, Valeria Richards, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Shuri, Professor X, Spider-Man, Ironheart, Hank Pym, Hank McCoy, Victor Von Doom, T'Challa, Amadeus Cho, Doctor Octopus, MODOK, Ultron, Norman Osborn, The High Evolutionary...to name a few
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Captain America They're not playing chess, they're fighting.
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Batman You mean the emblematic game of STRATEGY, to which you're implying Batman (the greatest tactician in the DC universe) would be better?
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Captain America In a straight fight it's not as helpful. CA has a very tactical mind and can make several plans a second as a result of his SSS.
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Batman SSS didn't affect his mind
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Batman How is strategy not helpful in a fight?
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Captain America See my other scans where I proved it did affect his mind. CA has the superior strategy. He may not be academically smart but he's still smart in a fight where it's important.
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Batman Batman has the greatest strategical mind in the DC universe
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Captain America Maybe he does but it's still not as good as CA
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Batman It's way better
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Captain America CA is probably second to none
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Batman Batman literally is second to none, and I think T'challa is a greater tactician than Cap, Cap is just more popular
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Captain America Batman's more popular than almost any hero except maybe Superman so that argument works against you.
CA's improved mind makes him a far better strategist than Batman ever could.
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Batman Another thing mastering is not knowing i can know how to do a backflip don't Mean i can do it i can know how to beat a part in a videogame don't mean i can do it Batman mastered every Martial art Captain America just knows them all
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Captain America You're just ignoring evidence at this point and that just makes it even harder to convince us.
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Batman @Akhil While i also disagree with many of his points, he is right on this one. Batman has perfected every modern fighting style. He is the superior fighter. It isn't by a landslide, but he is.
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Captain America It's not that. He's ignoring the fact that Captain America is almost, if not as good of a fighter as Batman is. Maybe not down to the fine details, but he keeps trying to find random excuses as to why Cap won't win this fight, even if those excuses have been debunked.
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Batman Can you show me something wich says captain America mastered every martial art?
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Captain America 1) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659944798081384449/713866243655991326/capisskilled2.jpg - Cap is adept (highly proficient / a master) with every single fighting style on the planet.

2) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659944798081384449/713866260206714880/capisskilled1.jpg, https://imgur.com/a/6b9UN#0 - Cache, who has cataloged and knows every fighting style on the planet (something you said was Cap's limits) got absolutely trashed by Cap who even stated he was better than just "knowing" every fighting style on Earth, however, the thing was that Cache simply didn't know every fighting skill on the planet. He knew everything there was to know about the fighting skills and knew how to use them to their utmost ability. He was the "keeper of all knowledge".

3) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659944798081384449/713866257291542548/capisveryskilled1.jpg Even if Cap doesn't know something that Batman does (which is unlikely), regardless of how smart Batman is... Cap's brain was engineered to be faster and superior to that of a normal human. He is one of the best tacticians, not just on Earth, but in the universe. Kang even stated that Captain America adapted to master a fighting style in a very short period of time (you can say it's seconds, minutes at max) better than a person who spent DECADES mastering that one fighting style.

Steve has also fought some of the best fighters on the planet like Daredevil, Black Widow, Wolverine, Deadpool, Taskmaster, Iron Fist, Shang Chi, and Black Panther with some of them mastering every single fighting style on the planet and even beyond the planet.
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Batman 1 the special word is adapt 2 first of is cache an android? If so fodder he is not trained knowledge is crap at that Point it would be more impressive for captain beating the punisher Second Captain America says he won because he is faster stronger and is way better trained wich would be obvious since they charachte looks like a android 3 Batman spend decades? Batman has mind is so good it's Eidetic he never trained decades for 1 martial art also yes these are good fighters batman also fought the best fighters
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Captain America 1) Too bad. When stacked up with everything else, it makes sense in this context.

2) Just because it's an android doesn't mean it's fodder. It can literally master any and all fighting styles and fighting counters just because of its superintelligence. Even if you make the argument that it only knows the martial arts, Cap would be much better than it and that stacks up to him fighting and beating some of the best martial artists in all of Marvel. He's at the very least, extremely close to Batman in skill, but more likely, he's equal. If you keep trying to find methods to try to make Cap seem weaker, it's just going to make it harder to convince anyone that Batman is better. I used to think this was a very, very, very close fight. I still find it debatable, but not that close. It's definitely easier than what I previously thought it to be.

3) Cap can understand and master fighting skills on the fly. Batman is smarter overall, but it wasn't only his physical body that was enhanced to superhuman levels via the serum. Cap's mind was too. He's smarter than a normal person and his brain is wired to think quickly and efficiently. Like I said, if there is something Cap doesn't know, he can learn it during the fight.

I don't really care if Batman fought the best fighters. I know he has, but on that note, he's kind of also lost to people who were physically superior to him if they had the intelligence to keep up or people who, frankly, were far better combatants than him. Deathstroke is an opponent Batman regularly struggles with. Captain America is closer to Deathstroke than he is to Batman. He's physically superior, exactly like Deathstroke, has the mind to think like Deathstroke, and he's at the very least, an equal but most likely, superior combatant to Deathstroke armed with an offensive and defensive weapon better than Deathstroke's suit. The only difference between them is that Deathstroke carries more lethal weaponry and could be argued to be slightly superior in stats (same could be said for Cap though)...
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Batman 1 he adapted to all martial arts not mastered them 2 Androids are Trash they have no experience in fighting atleast show me captain America beating the punisher or something Captain America has trained for years ofcourse he would win also again Cap says he is
faster stronger and better trained wich makes sense why do you think its easier now ? 3 so can Batman not as fast but he still can i don't know where you get it from that batman did need a decade for 1 martial art Cap is not superhuman the comics always mention him as peakhuman and superhuman by comic standards don't exists like i have already proven Batman has eiditic memory he never forgeys anything he Sees and remembers it 100 percent it's not as good as Cap his but still good 4 psychically superior? Batman consistently beats stronger charachters Solomon grundy Killer Croc Clayface etc and Bane who is even close to him in intelligence and is also a good fighter Batman lost to better combatants but he all gave them good fights before this is Post Crisis but if we are talking rebirth Deathstroke outright talks about how skilled of a fighter Batman is, how strong and serious of a fighter he is, and talks about how he cannot take him lightly hell deathstroke was even afraid of going to Gotham because of him Deathstroke has way faster reflexes and Senses he has kinda something like spiderman his spider Sense he also reacts as fast as he thinks he has also the strength of 100 men wich is 8 ton Cap is a better fighter then deathstroke but so is batman Deathstroke has way more powerfull gear so deathstroke>cap
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Batman Show me where it says the super soldier serum affected his brain, because I've never seen or heard that anywhere....& Batman is the greatest tactician in the DC universe, so...
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Batman IMO T'Challa (who has the knowledge of every Black Panther before him) is a better strategist than Captain America...Cap just appears in more comics so we've seen more on him
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Captain America Nick Fury was once "He's smart, relentless and learns new skills faster than a damn computer - we have to assume he knows everything". Nick Fury had been studying him and came to this conclusion.
He's shown to memorise pages and pages of nuclear codes instantly.

Batman's appeared way way more than CA has so that argument can be used against him.
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Batman To end this debate in a open area Cap mostly wins in a closed area Batman just has to much gadgets If Cap is to much in a straight up fight Batman throws.a smoke bomb and uses his Stealth and intelligence with his gadgets he could attack him from behind so he don't need to worry About the shield and Cap wont see him coming he has just to much gadgets and ways to win i just Cant see Cap winning except if batman has a bad day
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Captain America That's why we're saying CA wins. The environment is open
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Batman Where does it say that
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Captain America An open environment is neutral to both parties
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Batman Cap is definitely Bruce's physical superior, but i just wanna say that Bats is no pushover.

Punching through bazooka-proof glass


Chopping bricks and kicking down trees with his bare hands and feet


Hits Dr. Death through a door used to withstand missiles.
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Batman those are not even his best he made a plane change direction with his leg and holded up a building cap is slightly stronger tough
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Captain America He did not hold up a building! How many times will I need to debunk that before you stop using that feat?
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Captain America To post it again... if you look at the previous scans in the comic, you can see that a building was collapsing and large pieces of the rubble were falling down and some people were trapped underneath. That's what Batman went to go lift, and even then, he was struggling a lot. Batman CANNOT lift up an entire building.
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Batman I said a part
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Captain America That still sounds wanked. It was only a giant piece of rubble.
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Batman Cap also never holded a normal Building
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Captain America Prove it. I proved that Batman never held up an entire building, so you now need to prove to Tyrannus that Cap never held up a normal building. And even if he-- oh wait. I can't refute it yet.
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Batman Tyrannus showed a scan of a broken building so
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Captain America I showed a skyscraper and you know it.
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Batman Yeah so ? It was broken
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Captain America It was broken because it fell on him. You said it was just a broken building.
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Batman So he did not even lift it he used the shield to protect himself from it
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Captain America Know he actually lifted it up because it fell on him.
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Batman People saying batman Cant disarm him yet beast has before
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Captain America That's not consistent. If that's what your relying on then it shows a lack of knowledge on CA
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Batman Keep dreaming
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Captain America So your explanation is to keep dreaming. No wonder CA wins
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Batman Everything i give you call pis
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Captain America I didn't say PIS
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Captain America Beast is one of the fastest and most agile people on the planet, comparable to someone like Spider-Man. He's also extremely strong, extremely durable, and has one of the most intelligent minds on Earth. He's much more powerful than Batman, and just because he disarmed Cap doesn't mean Bruce can. Plus I've seen scans where Captain America fought Beast and he seemed to be winning...
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Batman Anyone who says Cap is superhuman is just making an assumption based on the fact that an external factor was used to give him his abilities and "super" is in the name of the serum and is ignoring that fact that marvel stated this is not the case and he is peak human...yes he has been enhanced to superhuman AT TIMES, but this is not usually the case
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Captain America People say that he's superhuman because that's what his feats show?
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Batman Both got superhuman feats don't make him superhuman superhuman is a made up term tbh superhuman don't exist so explain me what it is if superhuman exists
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Captain America Could you please stop replying to me with the exact same points that I've refuted before? Thanks.
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Batman Until you tell me what superhuman is
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Captain America Then you're just spamming the same thing over and over.
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Captain America He can be considered super human because he has peak human strength, speed, reflexes, agility, endurance, and durability to the greatest degree of human evolution IN THE SAME BODY which would be impossible. The strongest human ever would have to have a completely different body than the fastest human ever, that's what the serum made possible. Technically he is enhanced but none of his physical attributes are beyond human potential. Batman on the other hand is peak human in all those same area's for a man his height and weight. That's the difference and Steve Rogers is physically superior. In fact to be stronger or faster than him would classify you as superhuman!
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Batman Captain america just made the human limit higher therefore stil peak human and Batman has feats far above any human so...
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Captain America You really don't understand how CA works. What happened to him would affect everyone else's limit, it just made him far better than any human can achieve which is what Batman is.
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Captain America @jongensoden That just means peak humans in Marvel are much stronger than peak humans in DC. It doesn't really help your case.
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Batman No Dc has stronger peak Batman also trained far better then any human can achieve
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Captain America Now you're just being contradictory. And Batman did achieve it so...
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Batman I get that people base their opinion of attributes on feats, but by definition, peak human can literally mean only one thing and would be the same in both DC and Marvel
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Captain America Yes and CA is beyond peak
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Batman Cap is peak human, you're inferring something different that what Marvel directly stated
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Captain America The whole point of the serum was to make you a Super Soldier. Being peak human isn't super. His feats show he's clearly more than peak.
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Batman Peak human is more super than any of us will ever be...they both have feats that we would consider to be impossible or above human potential, but the comics are stating that those feats ARE the maximum human potential
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Captain America Your missing the point. If someone with training like Batman can reach that level then it isn't really a SUPER soldier serum its just steroids. It was made to be more.
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Batman No it's made so there is no need to train for Steve it's bassicly a Fastest way to het to peak human outside training
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Captain America Not at all. If that was the case then anyone with training could beat CA. Your making false assumptions. Your constantly ignore that CA trains anyway. The SSS was to make him far better than human
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Batman Not everyone but some people can yeah captain America trains so what? Batman trained harder
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Captain America You've once again just proven you don't know CA then. Your owns points can be used against you. Batman trains, so what. CA trains harder.
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Batman captain does have a power and endurance advantage and Batman has admitted he could lose a hand-to-hand fight against him. Batman is more than just a boxer like cap. his stealth and disarming skills would allow him to turn the fight into his favor. Just because cap has the super soldier serum and can "see faster" , that doesnt mean he could see batman through a smoke bomb if he threw one. Also, batman regularly battles and sneaks around super beings far above your average goon. if he could ninja around superman's super-hearing, there's no reason he can't do the same to cap and of course, batman has more knowledge about pressure points and fighting styles because he's mastered all of them rather than simply being adept, which would help him beat captain america
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Batman Wow, another exact copy of death battle!
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Batman Well said, agreed but Batman would. Do exactly what THANOS did to Hulk in avengers infinity war.. and Hulk is known for his incredible strength..like Thanos, Batman is extremely experienced in fighting , that's all he does
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Captain America The only way Batman wins is if he takes Cap out from the shadows without giving him a chance.
If Steve becomes aware of the fight, then Batman loses.

Captain America is superior in every way physically.
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Batman @tyrannus
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Captain America
For that appears to be an outlier. He was struggling
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Batman He has done it more then once
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Captain America I debunked that.
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Batman Batman will throw bomb in captain face and fly from there in batwing
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Captain America CA would tank the bomb and laugh as Batman runs away
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Batman I was talking about atom bomb nice try
Prove that he can survive atomic bomb
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Captain America Do you honestly think Batman carries atom bombs in his pocket? The explosion would kill him too genius.
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Batman He has multi city block level explosives
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Captain America That would still kill him too
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Captain America Captain America is equal or near equal in fighting capabilities. That is enhanced by Captain Americas increased reflexes, vision and thinking speed during combat compared to Batman. Captain America is a lot stronger than Batman and so much more durable and fast too.
Captain America wins 8 out of 100. Give Batman preptime, Captain America wins 6 out of 10. Give both prep time, Captain America wins 7 out of 10.
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Batman Wow no with prep batman stomps 10/10 without prep batman his intelligence combat and gadgets are to much for cap
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Captain America They'll never be enough for CA
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Captain America great assesment!
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Batman Cap is superhuman with a shield.
Bats is a peak human with a genius-level intellect, a belt full of weapons, and a mastery of all fighting styles.
Call it plot armor if you like, but Batman has fought people just as superhuman and even metahuman and came out on top.
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Captain America Agreed.
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Captain America Captain America is also the leader of the Avengers and has fought characters vastly above his paygrade. He's mastered every single fighting style and has beaten some of the most skilled fighters in all of comics... plus that shield you were talking about? It took hits from Thor, Hulk, and Thanos before.
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Batman Batman is still a better fighter and studied more then captain America He has studied Biology Technology, Mathematics Physics Mythology Geography and History. Bruce gained degrees in Criminal Science, Forensic Sciences Computer Sciences Chemistry and Engineering by the time he was 21. He had mastered Diverse Environmental Training, Security Systems, and illusion/sleight of hand by the time he was 23. He gained even more degrees in Biology, Physics, Advanced Chemistry, and Technology by the time he was 25. He has also learned Medical Sciences and Expanded Computer and Engineering Sciences. he not only trained every Martial art on earth but also kryptonian he also knows every pressure Point and nerve strike and something over 400 ways to knock someone down and batman is trained in way more other things batman can disarm the shield
AkhilPDX
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Captain America Half of that paragraph is academic intelligence which I agree, Batman is easily smarter than Captain America. Tactically, they're both even. Cap knows his environment better than you think and he's good at math... calculating how to throw it shield and deflect it and all, so no. Batman can't easily disarm it. Even if he does... it turns into a hand to hand fight where Captain America can hold his own. They'd basically stalemate there unless Batman tries one of his tricks with his gadgets which again, isn't 100% effective as Cap has taken on people like Iron Man. He's also faster, stronger, and more durable and won't just give his shield up. Cap is also a master of every martial art on Earth and he's trained in some unearthly styles too or styles that aren't counted as styles from Earth as they're not public.
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Jongensoden
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Batman I never said he can easily disarm but during the fight he would propably throw a smoke bomb and uses his stealth to disarm him you realize iron man has Almost killed captain America ? I agree with him being Faster stronger and more durable but look at bane he is also Faster stronger and more durable and almost as smart and a good fighter but batman still beats him it would be a really even battle tough
Mr_Incognito
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Batman Ok, Cap is not a master of all fighting styles. Batman is. Cap is a very good h2h fighter, but he's adept in all fighting styles, while Batman has perfected every fighting style known to man. That may not sound like it matters, but it definitely does.
AkhilPDX
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Captain America Disarming the shield won't be that easy. Cap always knows how it to get it back, regardless of who tries to take it. On that note, Captain America has also beaten Iron Man before and Iron Man is better than Batman in every way (except for fighting skills). Bane doesn't have the same fighting style as Captain America. Cap is much more skilled and Bane has a notable weakness. His venom is as much of a weakness as it is a physical stat enhancer. I do agree with this being a good fight though.

And yes, Captain America knows every single martial art on the planet and is one of the most skilled fighters in all of Marvel Comics.
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Batman It won't be easy but batman would disarm it and in that time he would uses his electric gadgets iron man was not really fighting back against Cap and there was once a time iron man almost killed cap bane is still almost as good of a fighter like batman he is trained ln most martial arts and even created his.own batman has beaten bane amped with venom before without cutting his venom. Where is it stated captain America knows every Martial art? Even then batman also trained in kryptonian Martial arts and knows every pressure Point and nerve strike and over 400 ways to knock someone out without blood and 463 different ways to intimidate someone without harming them
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Captain America That's just wishful thinking. Even if he somehow does, it'd allow CA to knock him out.
Jongensoden
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Batman Until you come with a longer response ignore this
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Tyrannus
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Captain America I've responded to everything you've said before. I'm just not going to repeat myself over and over so you can ignore and lie about it.
Mr_Incognito
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Batman @Akhil
1. Scan? I need some proof that Cap knows all fighting styles on the planet.
2. Knowing a fighting style and mastering a fighting style are two very different things. Cap knowing all fighting styles is very different from him mastering them all (which Batman has). I'm not trying to downplay his fighting ability, but he's not as skilled in combat as Batman.
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Captain America Batman is a Normal Human, Captain America is a Skilled Supersoldier.
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Jongensoden
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Batman Batman is not a normal human
Tyrannus
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Captain America He is
Jongensoden
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Batman Until you show me a normal human keep fighting with bullets in his head make or make plane change direction with his legs he is not a normal human
Tyrannus
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Captain America He's not an AVERAGE human but he still human. Your so confused
Jongensoden
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Batman then captain america should also be a normal human
Tyrannus
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Captain America CA is boosted. But of course you'll ignore this as you've done before
AkhilPDX
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Captain America 1) When he has been shot in the head and kept fighting?
2) Scans of him changing a plane with his legs.
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Batman @tyrannus then what he is if he is no human a animal ?
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Batman i have more examples of you want
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Batman
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AkhilPDX
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Captain America That's called having a bulletproof COWL. The bullet never punctured his skull.
Jongensoden
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Batman Ok he also kept fighting with bullets in his legs
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Captain America I'm the one arguing Batman's human. Your the one saying he isn't
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Batman Batman is human but he is not a normal human
Tyrannus
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Captain America He is a normal human because he has no powers. He's just not like the AVERAGE human.
Jongensoden
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Batman He is metahuman
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Captain America He's not. The only proof you showed was an unverified statement which is from the new 52
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Batman The statement was correct
Tyrannus
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Captain America You don't know that and either way it's New 52
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Batman It's rebirth
Bodhi
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Batman In my opinion, Batman wins
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Batman I agree with you
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Batman Agreed
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Captain America Cap 6/10... close fight, especially without prep time.
Mr_Incognito
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Batman I'd hate for these two to even fight in the first place. This is a really tough one to call, I love them both.
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Tyrannus
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Captain America Me too but this leans to CA. Odds weight to heavily in his favour
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Batman bruh
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Captain America Yeah
BlotskyA
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Captain America Batman should win in a hard fought battle, I Would Say Cap wins 4/10 while Bruce wins 6/10, in my opinion I Would Say Batman wins
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Captain America Fight can play out like this before they stalemate
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Batman Batman would win
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Captain America Never been able to prove this. @BlotskyA's voted Batman anyway
booyah
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Batman Batman is more skilled, stronger, faster, more durable
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AkhilPDX
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Captain America He is not faster, stronger, or more durable.
Jongensoden
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Batman Better pain resistance and equal reflexes
Tyrannus
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Captain America @AkhilPDX is right
BlotskyA
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Captain America Cap is stronger, faster, and slightly more durable
Tyrannus
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Captain America So why did you vote Batman
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Captain America because of Intelligence, now captain america is smarter than People like Captain Atom but Batman is like the 2nd smartest,
HolyJoe
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Batman @Akhil No, but he is more skilled and smarter.
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Captain America @booyah Noob
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Batman
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Captain America And yet you've still voted Batman
Jongensoden
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Batman The scan says Cap is not even peak human
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Captain America It doesn't say that
Jongensoden
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Batman It says Rogers is not superhuman but he has become a nearly perfect human being
Tyrannus
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Captain America Yes because this serum didn't do what it did to the Sentry. Sentry become superhuman.
Jongensoden
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Batman Sentry got a way way way more powerfull version
Tyrannus
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Captain America No Sentry took several untested versions. He got turned into a superhuman
Jongensoden
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Batman Ok but Cap is not
AkhilPDX
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Captain America What WILL it take you to change your bias? That statement is nothing considering he just came out and they randomly put the statement in. The feats performed by Captain America are superhuman, even by comicbook standards. There's nothing you can do to change that Jon.
Jongensoden
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Batman Wich superhuman feats
Tyrannus
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Captain America We've shown so many it's not even funny. Batman is the inferior opponent here. Cap is better physically and tactically. You can't have a close mind when it comes to Batman, you need to accept he loses.
Jongensoden
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Batman You showed nothing superhuman
Tyrannus
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Captain America We have you just ignore it or excuse it
Jongensoden
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Batman All these feats i debunked and either way i told you comparable feats wich batman has so according to you either batman is also superhuman or both are not superhuman
Tyrannus
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Captain America Name feats you debunked because I know you didn't.
Until Batman gets boosted he will lose. It's why he's not superhuman
Jongensoden
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Batman Captain America holding up a building tanking ig thanos his hits etc
Tyrannus
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Captain America Already explained how it's Cap who lifts the skyscraper not the shield.
It was actually you who lied when you said IG Thanos never hit Cap. I said to you don't pretend to know but you insisted you did until I proved you wrong.
Is that it? 2 examples where it was me who debunked you and found you a liar.
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Batman I never did say the shield lifted it i did say the shield helped him without shield he could not lift that give batman the shield and he can Cap got knocked out in 1 hit i also debunked more like batman Being just a man captain America having better willpower
Tyrannus
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Captain America Where's you proof CA couldn't lift it without the shield?
Where's you proof Batman could lift it with the shield?
You claimed Thanos never hit him.
Batman is a man and still has less willpower than CA
Jongensoden
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Batman The shield gives him a wilder space going to batman has comparable strength feats i later told you he did so what's the problem batman is superhuman and has more will
Tyrannus
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Captain America I've already told you the shield's not wider than his arms. This is just another example of me debunking you but you just ignoring and repeating the same thing.
No proof batman's comparable strength.
Already shown he has less will than CA
Jongensoden
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Batman You realize if you make a circle with your hand there is a hole in the mid. Actually that is what you are doing. I Actually proved he has more will and comparable strength
Tyrannus
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Captain America You said the shield is wider, it's not. His arms are and your ignoring the main point. Only CA could have held that weight. That's a strength feat which you've always ignored.
You've never proven he has comparable will or strength.
Jongensoden
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Batman The shield closes the hole their arms make if Batman makes his arms wide everything goes trough them so he Cant make them wide ignoring everything i said i see
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Captain America Your missing what I'm saying. You said the shield is wider which it's not. His arms are wider and more importantly it needs power to hold that weight which you keep ignoring.
You failed to show proof Batman is stringer or has better will so you concede.
Jongensoden
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Batman I already proved that of batman has a random schield he would do the same
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Captain America You haven't, you just say so and leave it at that
Jongensoden
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Batman I Actually proved that
Tyrannus
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Captain America Nope. Haven't seen any.
Jongensoden
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Batman ...
Tyrannus
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Captain America Exactly
BlotskyA
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Captain America Just Imagine Captain America as a Batman Villain
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Tyrannus
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Captain America Cap's the furthest person from a villain
BlotskyA
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Captain America I'm just saying Imagine him as a villain
Mxyzptlk
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Batman Cap will get destroyed
booyah
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Batman Batman kills Cap
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Captain America @booyah Never seen something so wrong with only 3 words
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Batman Yeah batman don't kills
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Captain America Batman wouldn't kill cap but cap will kill batman,
Tyrannus
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Captain America Exactly. It's why CA will win
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Batman Cap also don't kill you don't understand cap
Tyrannus
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Captain America Lol what do you think he did in WWII? Don't embarrass yourself
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Batman He don't kills random Heroes only in a war he kills People
Tyrannus
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Captain America No he kills if he needs to.
BlotskyA
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Captain America Alright let's break it down now Captain America is Stronger, slightly Faster and Slightly More Durable, Now Cap has his Shield however this won't be a problem for bruce, as bruce has fought deathstroke and his Armor is just as tough as Cap's Shield, Now Captain America has fought People like Daredevil and Black Panther who are very similar to batman however Batman has fought Deathstroke who's Similar to slade, so they might have an understanding of who they're going up against, now Cap is more Experience as he's fought since World War 2 however Batman has fought people who are more Experience than him, Now Batman is smarter and a better fighter as he is considered to be the top 5 best fighters and ra's al ghul comment on how intelligent batman is, and that is probaly the x-factor, batman is just more intelligent, yes Captain America is smarter than people like Captain Atom but Batman should win in a hard fought battle, I Would Say Cap wins 4/10 while Bruce wins 6/10, in my opinion I Would Say Batman wins
Heroclix21
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Captain America Captain America.
These are my 2 favorite heroes. However, there is just no question here, Cap outclasses Batman. Cap is by far physically superior in every category. He also matches Batman in fighting skill but has better reflexes. Caps shield will also make up for the gap that Batman presents in versatility.
Cap 8 out of 10.

Batman could get those 2 out of 10 due to his brain not his braun.
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Jongensoden
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Batman You are so wrong
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Captain America Trust me he's right. It's really bad that you said he's so wrong
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Captain America I Disagree with you @Heroclix21 but I Like your Reasoning
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Captain America It's one of the best explanations I've ever seen why Cap wins
Jongensoden
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Batman Except it's wrong they are Psychically comparable except batman is a better fighter better gear more willpower smarter more pain resistance
Tyrannus
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Captain America No. You keep denying that the SSS makes Cap faster, stronger, durable and better tactician. Willpower should go to Cap too. Things that would cause pain to Batman would tickle Cap.
Jongensoden
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Batman Dionesium did the same to batman and batman trained first to peak human
AkhilPDX
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Captain America Where's the evidence he became a superhuman?
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Batman He Already is low superhuman dionesium boosted him further and gave him Regeneration factor
Tyrannus
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Captain America But he isn't physically on Caps level. Until he gets boosted he never will
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Batman I just told you he got boosted
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Captain America So @Heroclix21 wasn't that wrong
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Batman I meant batman got boosted
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Captain America Batman isn't really boosted. If anything that's a minor adjustment not boosting
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Batman He got boosted and is already comparable so...
Tyrannus
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Captain America He didn't get boosted get just got invigorated and that was new 52
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Batman He got boosted and batman never got retconned
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Captain America This isn't new 52 it's post crisis
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Captain America I agree. Captain America is just too much here.
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Captain America Agreed. Cap takes it.
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Batman It would be impossible for Cap to match Bats in fighting skill...Bruce mastered every fighting style on Earth, Cap was frozen for 75 years. How does the serum make him a better tactician? Makes no sense.
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Batman This is closer than most people think. BTW Cap is not superhuman, they are BOTH "PEAK HUMAN," and both have performed "superhuman" feats. Basically, one of them trained for decades and one of them took PEDs to arrive at the same level physically. However, it would not be crazy to say that Cap slightly edges him in durability and stamina because of this. Batman has superior combat skills having mastered ALL martial arts, but in my mind what wins is intelligence & ingenuity, which Batman also wins. To me, as a character Batman is more like Black Panther than Captain America.

Batman wins 6 or 7 out of 10 times
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Tyrannus
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Captain America @NorrinRadd The SSS makes Cap far beyond human. If it made him peak human there was in point in the SSS if anyone can reach his levels with training.
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Batman No the SSS made him peak human show me where it says he is superhuman both have superhuman feats either way so it's irrelevant
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Captain America It's not irrelevant because Cap is known for being boosted far beyond human abilities now. That was the whole point of the SSS. Training should't be able to reach those levels.
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Batman Batman his feats are also far beyond human abilites so yes it's irrelevant
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Captain America His feats aren't able to top Cap because he's not boosted
Jongensoden
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Batman Except their feats are comparable
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Captain America Never been shown to be the case
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Batman Batman won't win psychically so it's irrelevant to disccus either way
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Captain America That's what we've been trying to tell you this whole time. Cap is physically superior
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Batman They are still very close and Batman has better pain resistance
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Captain America They're not close until Batman gets boosted
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Batman Stop using the boosted argument it's stupid
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Captain America It's the reason why he wins. That's like saying Flash only beats people because of his speed.
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Batman Batman brings way more versatility to the table, he would definitely win in a all out battle!
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Batman @Remy welcome back!
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Captain America they're very even in speed and durability, with running speed, cap takes it, with agility, batman takes it, durability is almost the same, it's too hard to call, With Strength, Cap takes it, while Cap is stronger, Bats has the weapons to counter that
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Captain America In durability, Captain America has the edge by far. He even survived on him. He also takes endurance, having fought after cutting the Zola virus out of his chest. With agility, he has dodged lasers and gunfire at point blank range, often from multiple angles. I agree, Cap is stronger, but he has the shield in response to Batman's gadgets.
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Captain America I Think you don't really understand Batman's Speed and Durability
HeroicSacrifice123
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Captain America Batman tagging speedsters and evading Omega beams has been debunked and can often be deduced to plot armor. How does catching an arrow compare to blocking gunfire with a shield while falling from multiple angles? How does fighting for a long time compare to fighting for years in another dimension after cutting a hole in your self to remove a deadly virus?
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Batman Pain resistance goes to batman durability is fairly equal Batman got tortured for years by desaad and gas not giving up batman Sees bullets in slow motion so you can Argue batman Being Faster the thing is Batman his gadgets are to much batman just disarms Cap and then uses his gadgets batman can beat charachters Faster then him like impulse kid flash etc also stronger and as smart and skilled like bane
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Captain America The SSS makes Cap physically far beyond Batman it's not even a comparison. Anything Batman can do Cap does better.
You assume he can disarm Cap but he never will.
Batman can beat people faster than him but that doesn't mean he's as fast. Superman's also stopped Flash. Doesn't mean he's as fast.
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Batman The feats show them comparable what says he Cant disarm Cap when less skilled People then batman can do so im saying captain America Being Faster don't Mean anything either way the main reason Batman wins is because of his gear
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Captain America You need to stop underestimating Cap's shield. It can damage Iron Man's armor, which has taken 25 tonners like Spider-man to damage. It took the turret off a tank and one-shotted Namor. Batman doesn't have a reliable counter to his shield, and if he does, Cap is still physically stronger and as equally skilled.
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Batman You need to stop overrating it People less skilled then batman disarmed it His gadgets are to much Batman could throw multiple batarangs at the same time at his face which he will block using his shield leaving the rest of his body without defense which is where he uses electric gadgets or something else

his gadgets could oneshot An enhanced emperor penguin explosives wich can send superman flying back electric bombs wich Hurt zod drones with fear gas energy blasts wich can harm deathstroke he has to much versatilty
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Captain America You always claim feats are comparabile but they never are. You just want them to be.
Less skilled people don't disarm Cap's shiled.
If anything we're underrating the shield. All Cap needs to do is throw it at Batman and he'd die. He's blocked bullets in all directions. A few batterangs or bombs won't be much.

You made an interesting point though. You said Batman wins because of his gear. So you accept Cap is physically better than Batman?
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Batman Except i showed comparable feats. Daredevil winter soldier Spider man they all disarmed his shield Cap throwed his shield to red skull before and he did not die he throwed them to Hydra soldiers and they got knocked out but did not die stop overrating the shield like i said before he throws multiple batarangs Cap blocks them leaving the rest of his body without defense he has explosives wich can oneshot killer croc they won't take out Cap but they Will Hurt him also Cap's shield will be useless against electric weapons anyway.
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Captain America No you didn't. I topped them all which makes sense because of the SSS.
Those people are very different to Batman. He can't do the same.
He threw it slower those times because he doesn't kill unless he really needs to.
Cap would block all the batterangs like he's done to the hundreds of bullets that have come his way.
The shield doesn't become useless to electricity.
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Batman Either way it's irrelevant if you want to live in denial sure batman wont win psychically but by his gadgets Batman is superior to Daredevil and winter soldier in litteraly every category so why would Cap kill batman in this match ? Why Bring it up if batman throws a electric bomb it Will affect his body or a Sonic bomb the shield is also uselless against these they Will still affect Cap shield or not he has also magnetic batarangs 1 is strong enough for 10 People with armor to stick to each other
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Captain America Minus the shield, Cap still has the physical advantage while they are equally skilled combatants. Cap took a blast from Gambit at point blank range, so he could take Batman's tasers.
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Captain America @jong That is hilarious from the person who keeps assuming Batman will just find a way to win despite being outclassed here. You've been in denial that Batman wasn't weaker this whole time until now.
Your sentences don't make sense so I don't know what your saying.
Cap would kill him if he wanted.
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Batman @heroic Except batman is clearly a better Cap is barely psychically superior Electric volts wich can Hurt zod sure as hell Will damage cap @tyrannus you think that strength and psychically is the only way to win it's not even then Cap is not far better psychically and he Will disarm the shield because less skilled charachters like winter soldier and Daredevil did. The shield is uselless against Sonic bombs electric attacks wich can Hurt zod magnetic batarangs 1 of them is strong enough for 10 People with armor to stick to each other or stick People to a train Cap wont get past those gadgets
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Captain America Batman only has training. Cap has training and the SSS. If the SSS made you slightly better there'd be no point.
Marvel's official description on what the SSS did to Cap; "which induced greater-mutations than peak human capabilities". Batman is only peak which is why he says to Cap that he would win.
The shield blocks all gadgets. If it can stop the Hulk it will stop Batman. No one like Batman has been able to disarm the shield.
You said they were comparible psychically. Really Cap thinks far quicker and plans better because of the SSS so Cap has him beat physically and mentally.
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Batman Batman has training wich Brought him to the same level like Cap. Batman trained and is still training so what ? Batman is superhuman batman said Cap could win not would either way that's not canon and batman wont win psychically so why are we disccusing this hulk is dumb he just smashes Batman is a master tactician if charachters like winter soldier and Daredevil can disarm him batman can a Sonic grenade still would affect him it would stick to the shield and still affect Cap Magnetic batarangs still can disarm it after he is disarmed Batman beats him by energy blasts capapble of destroying robots
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Captain America Your not getting it. I literally gave you Marvels official description which said the SSS makes you beyond that. This is common knowledge though. Batman can never be on Cap's level. They both train the same but Cap is boosted. Stop denying this.
Batman is a very proud man so he wouldn't admit that unless it was fact. The writers wrote what Batman would say.
How else do you fight if not physically? Are they playing chess?
Batman is not Winter Soldier or Daredevil. They're different and if Cap doesn't want anyone taking his shield, Batman never will.
The shield's taken worse.
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Batman The feats show them still comparable blockbuster is boosted yet batman beats him Being boosted means nothing he admitted Cap could win not would win 2 different things batman Outsmarts his opponents and wins by stealth and combat/gadgets winter soldier and Daredevil are below batman in everything Except Cap got disarmed many times so batman can Also use magnetic batarangs strong enough to make 10 People stick to each other he wont destroy the shield he would throw Sonic bombs wich Will still affect Cap shield or not same for electric attacks he also has Electric handcuffs
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Captain America You've never shown feats to be comparable.
Cap is not Blockbuster. Being boosted means a lot though given Deathstroke beats him all the time. Taskmaster knows all h2h combat in Marvel yet he loses to Cap because he's stronger.
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Batman You ignored the fear part again even then i showed many comparable feats like batman making a plane change direction with his legs blockbuster is also boosted so are 50 percent of batman his villians yet batman beats them taskmaster lost to batman in the crossover i know it's not canon but even then batman should take him
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Captain America Batman had to get over his fears while Cap never had them.
I showed you every time that Cap changed a plane too but also surpasses him every time.
Blockbuster is not Cap at all. Neither are Batman's villains. Cap beat Taskmaster, Iron Fist and Wolverine. I'm guessing that means he beats Batman too then.
The fact that you tried to compare the villains to Cap shows a severe lack of understanding for Cap. Please research him first so you'll see he wins. Don't pretend to know him.
Batman doesn't know every move Taskmaster does so no Batman would lose again.
Even Batman disagrees with you.
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Batman You keep ignoring his gear so i think we are done. Yes so very close you was not able to find a strength feat batman Cant acomplish. I know blockbuster is not Cap but you say Cap beats batman because he is boosted Blockbuster is also boosted so? Taskmaster and iron Fist both would lose to Batman Cap never beated Wolverine until he got help from giant man. It is Stated multiple times Batman knows every fighting style and he is psychically superior to taskmaster with better gear and he can predict moves by air pressure so batman beats taskmaster
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Captain America Cap beat a prepared Taskmaster with all sorts of gear. Batman knows all the martial arts, but Cap fights smart and coordinated, which allows for him to beat opponents as or more skillful than Batman like Iron Fist and Cache. Batman has feats of strength but all of Cap's CONSISTENTLY hit higher than Batman's best feats of strength. And no, Iron Fist would not lose to Batman thanks to his superior skill, agility and striking power that allowed for him to one-shot a hellicarrier and destroy a fast traveling train armed with explosives.
Stop ignoring Cap's feats. They are more consistent and more 'realistic' than Batman's peak human feats. Batman is peak. Cap is enhanced.
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Batman Scans of taskmaster with prep vs captain? If Iron Fist lost to Cap he wont beat batman also im sure you hear of Morals iron Fist won't hit as hard as a mouintan to a human batman his feats are superhuman so are Cap they are close both their feats are consistent and close superhuman don't even exist tbh if Super means above the limits of a human But how can you be above the limits of a human For example someone lifts 500 kg Tommorow someone lifts 1 ton He Broke the record so he made the human limit higher he is not superhuman
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Captain America You keep ignoring the SSS makes Cap far better than training ever will. You just want to believe Batman will win because you can't stand to see him lose to someone you don't know.
I mentioned the skyscraper while Batman just lifted rubble many times.
Deathstroke's also boosted and wipes the floor with Batman. So by your logic Cap wins then right?
Cap has beaten Wolverine every time except in Wolverine: Origins so your lying again. Taskmaster and Iron Fist could beat Batman.
Again you lie because Karate Kid is the only person in DC who know every move in DC.
Your credibility is crumbling.
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Batman So far you have shown nothing what is far above batman also according to the crossovers they are equal Cap used the shield to hold the skyscraper like i debunked before and ? Batman has also beaten many boosted charachters nope wolverine beaten captain America many other times Avengers VS x men wolverine was outlasting Cap until giant man saved him and they had many more fights taskmaster loses to batman also you said on iron Fist VS batman batman beats him again karate kid knows every Martial art in the Galaxy batman knows ever Martial art on earth and some kryptonian taught by superman stop saying im lying when you don't know what you are talking about
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Captain America Lol so far I've shown nothing? I literally repeated a feat which has been repeated so many times. Read up man unless you don't want to see the truth or your just trolling.
According to the crossover Batman said he'd lose.
You never debunked the shield because I told you literally every time that the shield can't lift weight, Cap can.
Batman loses to Deathstroke who's boosted so that doesn't matter.
Did you even read AvX? They barely fight and the best thing Wolverine does is cut the straps on his shield before Cap beats him out of the plane.
Don't pretend Batman knows everything Taskmaster does. I said Iron Fist COULD beat Batman.
You claimed Batman knows every fighting style. If that was the case he shouldn't lose to Lady Shiva, Cass, Deathstoke, Bane and Prometheus.
You have been caught lying many times now and known to be severely biased.
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Batman You showed nothing far above batman his feats only comparable batman said he could lose not he would both are Cap different things and batman was not using his gadgets Cap lifted it but if you give batman the shield he would also it gives a wilder space. Boosted means nothing some boosted charachters beat batman some lose just because you are boosted don't Mean you win. Wolverine was outlasting Cap until he got help if captain America beats taskmaster by Being psychically superior batman can do the same don't forget batman also can predict moves he knows every fighting style on earth also batman has beaten Shiva before and Cass never beated batman she just has some statements wich are condraticted by the fact Thomas Wayne batman beat her while fighting the batfamily Thomas is below Bruce nightwing has also beaten her before Bane and batman are equal and deathstroke don't beats batman because of combat and Prometheus Well he is above batman
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Captain America I literally named the feats before in these very replies. Look.
It took a lot for Batman to admit he'd lose so that means it's likely.
Batman doesn't have the shield, Cap does. The shield isn't wider than his arms.
Deathsroke's boosted and so he consistently beats Batman. It is relevant, its the reason Cap wins.
Wolverine outlasted Cap once. He lost every other time.
Cap beats Batman the same way he beat Taskmaster. Batman certainly doesn't know everything Taskmaster did. Your wrong.


Your wrong again.
I have no idea what your saying. Improve your grammar.
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Batman None of these feats are way above batman. It's contradicted nightwing red hood and Thomas Wayne batman have beaten Cass so Batman sure also can batman thinks he can beat superman does that make him above superman does this Mean Cass>batman>superman it's irrelevant Cap lifts that because the shield is wide Enough to let it lift that Batman dont but he has the strength to do the sale joker is boosted Harley Quinn is boosted clayface is boosted to they beat batman? No so stop bringing it up. Lol every other time wolverine beated Cap 2 times Batman>taskmaster if Cap beats taskmaster by Being psychically superior so does batman
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Captain America @Jon, Cap did beat a prepped Taskmaster, but my link isn't working properly. @Tyrannus can probably show you. In addition to this, Cap beat Cache, who mastered every martial art, Wolverine, Lady Deathstrike, Nuke (who is bulletproof), took a blast from Gambit at point blank range and beat him after, beat Crossbone and without his serum and more. In strength, he has consistently shown to be higher. How does bench-pressing 1000 lbs compare to Cap pulling down a small hellicopter and supporting the weight of lots of rubble. Your airplane feat is either PIS, or Batman isn't supporting the whole weight of it. He would need Spider-man-level strength to do so, which he doesn't. Cap dodges bullets and lasers more regularily, even at point blank range, from multiple angles, and once he dodged after it was fired. Cap beat Taskmaster by mixing up fighting styles, and you have yet to prove batman is physically superior, which he isn't. Cap is stronger, faster and more durable, basically everybody but you agrees, even the other Batfans here.
@Tyrannus is right, you need to add periods, because I'm having a hard time understanding what you're writing.
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Batman Captain America beat cache by strength not combat is strength and combat so that wont work captain America never beat wolverine without help idk batman punched trough bulletproof glass Crossbones don't compare to batman he supported the rubble with his shield batman done the same but he struggled because he had no schield it's not pis batman consistently does things like that so nope batman Sees bullets in slow motion so he has Faster reflexes never said he is psychically superior they are Psychically comparable
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Captain America That's wrong again. Cap beat Wolverine almost every time. Your referring to an inconclusive battle.
You've never shown any strength feats that top Cap you just keep imagining Batman has the shield which he doesn't.
Don't know what you said towards the end because your not improving your grammar.
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Batman Show me when Cap beat wolverine i showed many comparable strength feats the only strength feat you showed he used his shield i did say batman Sees bullets in slow motion so he has Faster reflexes never said he is psychically superior they are Psychically comparable
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Captain America CA #405 and AvX. Cap also had an edge in Wolverine Origins #4. Cap destroys him in Wolverine Origins #20.
You didn't show many feats. You showed Batman lifting rubble while I showed Cap holding a skyscraper.
Cap is faster because of the SSS.
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Batman Avx Wolverine outlasted Cap until he got help in Origins Wolverine destroyed Cap i Will read the other comics you mentioned Cap did not lift the skyscraper he holded Broken pieces of it that is not lifting strength. That argument is stupid show some feats wich prove Cap is faster
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Captain America Wolverine still couldn't defeat Cap in #4. In #20 Logan describes this as the worst beating he'd ever received.
No it was the whole skyscraper that had fallen on him.
The SSS makes you faster than humanly possible.
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Batman I told you i Will look into that. Yes and the shield protected him that is not lifting strength so until you show captain America having greater lifting strength that is invalid. Batman is also Faster then any Human possible and that's invalid until you show me captain America Being Faster
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Captain America Cap literally lifts the weight up.
Cap is faster than Batman ever can be.
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Batman He used his shield that's not lifting strength. Also prove Cap is faster
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Captain America Using the shield doesn't take away the strength feat. How about you go and try to stop a collapsing building with a vibranium shield? We'll see how that turns out.
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Batman 1 batman his feats show that he can do the same we are talking lifting strength without something else the shield gave him a wilder space
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Captain America What feats?
Cap's arms are wider than the shield
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Batman Batman his are not wider
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Captain America So no feats.
No idea what you said
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Batman His arms are not wider
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Captain America Are you really telling me the shield is wider than 2 arms?
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Batman Yes there is hole in the arms so
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Captain America Arms don't have holes. Your completely ignoring the shield didn't do any lifting, Cap did. Could you do the same if you had the shield?
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Batman No but batman would
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Captain America No proof and makes no sense to say
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Batman You did not ask for proof
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Captain America You could have shown some.
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Batman They are equal in physicality, i give to batman due to better combat arsenal and gadgets
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Captain America Actually, Batman is a peak human, whereas the Super Soldier serum has boosted Cap beyond. Batman can bench press about 1000 lbs, whereas Cap can pull down a small helicopter, punch Wolverine through a car, KO Nuke, support about 1-2 tons of weight. He is also more agile, capable of dodging bullets and lasers at point blank range, and having more endurance and durability. He survived a building falling in, was shot and recovered quickly, and was infected with the Zola virus, which he cut out of his chest, and kept on fighting. They are around equal in skill, and his shield is superior to Batman's gadgets. It can one-shot Namor and take the turret off of a tank.
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Batman Both are superhuman batman made a plane change direction with his legs dragged a plabe of 3 tons batman Sees bullets in slow motion van tag Speedsters. Endurance is around equal both can fight for weeks batman has higher pain resistance everything you said about durability batman did also also he survived hits from wonder woman Lobo superman etc he got tortured by desaad for years and have not up batman can easily disarm the shield batman has to much gadgets he can use to beat cap
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Batman Stop underrating batman and overrating Cap
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Captain America @jong Your being biased here. @HeriocSacrifice123 told you straight facts which you cannot deny and yet somehow you still are because you don't want to see Batman lose.
Tagging speedsters has already been debunked.
Don't compare them physically when Cap is clearly superior. You thought the SSS brought Cap to Batman's levels at one point which is plain wrong.
Batman cannot disarm Cap's shield. He's weaker.
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Batman Except heroic is the biased here because he Hates batman and likes cap and no he can react to Speedsters except they are Psychically comparable your only argument is Cap got the serum batman is just a man also i said something different i said batman trained to the level Cap is and is still training Batman has comparable strength and way more gear after he disarmed him he uses his gadgets wich he has way to much he has almost everything in his belt he could oneshot An enhanced emperor penguin with it so Cap is going down batman has to much gear
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Captain America When has @Herioc said he hates Batman and loves Cap?
You ended up saying he can only sneak up on speedsters not actually react to them.
The SSS is the main one. I've told you more reasons before.
I've already told you it's not possible to train to Cap's level. You may want that to be the case but it can't happen. Cap has the SSS and trains.
Feats and facts still show Cap is superior.
Batman cannot disarm Cap. Many have tried and failed.
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Batman He said multiple times he Hates batman he could still react to Them except if everything Cap can do batman has also done batman trained where Cap is batman has trained to there and still trains feats show them comparable except in durability intelligence versatilty and combat wich goes to batman winter soldier disarmed Cap before Batman is better then bucky
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Captain America When has @Heroic said that? If you can't find it I can confirm with @Heroic himself.
No it's the other way round. If Batman can do it, Cap can do it better because he's boosted.
Batman didn't train in the army, learn the ways of Kun Lun or study and beat Shang-Chi.
Batman's feats are not comparable. They all go to Cap.
If Cap wanted to he would destroy Winter Soldier.
You need to put full stops or paragraphs. I'm struggling to understand what your saying. It doesn't make sense.
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Batman Least favorite charachters forum except looking at feats batman and Cap have the same batman trained every Martial art on earth knows every pressure Point and nerve strike and is trained in some kryptonian Martial arts im saying winter soldier can disarm him so batman also
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Captain America He said he's ok with Batman it's just the prep and PIS parts he don't like.
Name feats that Cap hasn't been able to surpass?
Batman doesn't know every martial art on earth. Only Karate Kid does.
Cap also knows these things. If Cap doesn't want you disarming him, you won't be able to disarm him.
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Batman How about you mention feats batman could not surpass it's mentioned 6 times batman knows every Martial art on earth karate kid knows every martial art across the Galaxy yeah sure why would he want himself disarmed
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Captain America I already have. Skyscraper, being thrown out of plane by War Machine, beating Crossbones without the SSS, getting shot in the head and recovering minutes later etc.
Only Karate Kid knows everything becasue he's from the future. If Batman knew everything he shouldn't ever lose fights.
I said Cap wouldn't let Batman disarm him. Where'd you get disarming himself from?
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Captain America I have stated I don't like Batman, but because of PIS and toxic fans rather than him as a character, but that doesn't make me biased. I can point out @Jon that you seem to be a hardcore Batman fan and can be biased in his favor, which facts hint you are, given from both me and @Tyrannus.
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Batman Batman wins in a good fight
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Batman Check this
https://images.app.goo.gl/Ssi8yHXpdWfDxMYT8
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Captain America I love that scene. It's actually from the same comic where Bane was fairly beating Batman until Catwoman had to save him.
It doesn't mean however that Batman can never lose. He was talking about common thugs who say that
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Captain America Captain America wins. He is stronger, faster, more durable, has greater striking power (his shield), slightly greater willpower and is equally skilled. Batman is only superior in intelligence and having a large arsenal and Shield>Batarangs.

Oh, and @Tyrannus thanks for being reasonable.
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Captain America Glad your here as the voice of logic. These are undeniable facts. The SSS makes Cap far better
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Batman Batman is comparable in strength speed is more durable and can easily disarm i also give willpower to batman also did you forget batman is a better fighter
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Captain America Never been shown to be the case. You said they have same willpower but now your backtracking. You don't know if Batman is the better fighter but what we do know is Cap is physically better securing his win
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Batman Nobody is physically superior they are around equal but i give it to batman and we know batman is the better fighter Cap adapted to fighting styles he never mastered them all also Batman has beaten the best fighters of the dc universe
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Captain America They are not equal physically and it's a stretch to even call them comparable. Cap is boosted so it makes sense why he's better. No idea why you think it's Batman apart from bias.
Cap's arguably the best fighter in Marvel. Assuming Batman is better h2h it wouldn't be by much and Batman wouldn't be able to land a hit. Cap is faster and even if he slipped up, he can tank everything Batman has. Saying Cap has mastered nothing is plain wrong.
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Batman They are Psychically equals like i keep proving captain America is not the best fighter in marvel black panther gamora etc to name a few are better Batman would tank a hit Batman Sees bullets in slow motion so he could react to Cap and if batman Cant Hurt Cap then Cap Cant Hurt batman
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Captain America You always claim they're equal but never top Cap's feats. Even so it makes no sense. Cap is boosted, Batman is not. Because of that Cap can just react to Batman and counter. Batman can't tank as much as Cap. Until you show Batman has been boosted in any way Cap is still better.
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Batman I gave many feats wich show them equal but you ignore them that is terrible logic batman beats boosted people all the time cap loses to non boosted people all the time and Batman has a better durability so he can tank more
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Captain America Name feats that I haven't been able to top? Batman's also lost to boosted people like he consistently loses to Deathstroke.
Name all the normal people who consistently beat Cap.
Feats and facts show Cap has better durability
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Batman Dude the feats whe gave are around comparable . Deathstroke is superior to cap Batman beats bane
cap lost to hawkeye kingpin crossbones etc nope feats show batman having greater durability and pain resistance
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Captain America Holding up a skyscraper is not comparable to lifting rubble nor is taking hits from IG Thanos comparable to being hit by Wonder Woman.
So you agree Deathstroke>Cap>Batman=Bane?
Cap doesn't lose to those guys consistently and he's beaten them back at some point.
No proof Batman's more durable given that Cap's boosted.
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Batman Cap holded up a skyscraper because if his shield if batman had the shield he could do the same again the shield protected him from ig thanos no it is deathstroke>>>batman=>Bane>Cap batman has better durability feats
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Captain America The shield is as part of who Cap is. Even so it takes power to actually hold it up. Batman has never shown he can do the same.
The shield broke. I don't think you know what happened. If the shield protected Cap how did Cap lose?
You've proven your bias again. Bane has beaten Batman fairly before and if Batman can barely beat Bane, Cap definitely do so.
More empty claims.
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Batman Take the shield away and Cap Cant lift it give the shield to batman and he can lift it the shield protected him from the blast then thanos swiped the shield away Batman beated bane fairly Cap definitely don't beat bane edit for some reason the pic don't show up click on the white
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Captain America The shield helped him hold a wider space but you need strength to hold the weight. Something Batman can never do because he's not boosted.
The shield is part of who Cap is. Batman doesn't have the shield.
The shield shattered, it didn't swipe away.
Yeah if Batman struggled to beat Bane Cap definitely will.
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Batman Since batman has shown similar strength feats i don't see why he Cant do that with the shield boosted or not don't matter Batman has dragged something of 2 tons before it don't matter of the shield is part of who he is you Cant use that as argument for his strength thanos shot a blast then moved his hand to the right to Break it Batman yeah no ABC logic don't work always
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Captain America When I asked for similar feats of strength all you showed was him lifting rubble. How can you think he can? Cap's boosted Batman isn't. Batman doesn't have the shield, Cap does. Another reason why Cap wins.
Not sure what you said with the rest.
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Batman Ignore that Cap had the shield go help if batman had it he can do the same just Cant hold a wilder space . Th shield is irrelevant we are talking strength not something else so you Cant Bring it up. Batman has dragged 2 tons before
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Captain America The shield wasn't lifting the weight Cap was. Batman doesn't have the strength or the shield to copy.
The shield is part of who Cap is so is relevant. It helps him win.
The skyscraper was far more than 2 tons
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Batman When we are disccusing strength the shield is irrelevant give batman the shield and he does the same
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Batman When we are disccusing strength the shield is irrelevant give batman the shield and he does the same
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Captain America @jon stop making stuff up! Cap is far stronger than Batman. It wasn't just the shield he was using to support the building's weight. Besides, he has pulled down a helicopter, punched Wolverine through a car, stopped an elevator with his shield, lifted a large tree and dragged a telephone poll. He knocked out Nuke, who is bulletproof and kicked somebody hard enough to dent a bus. He is more agile, dodging bullets and lasers at point blank range, including blocking gunfire with his shield from multiple angles, while falling. His endurance allowed for him to fight after cutting the Zola virus out his chest. Batman's best non-PIS feat of endurance is probably fighting for extensive periods of time without food, which is nowhere near.
Cap is physically superior!
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Batman I never said it was just the shield bit the shield helped him batman has Enough strength do you the same his arms are only not big enough batman made a plane change direction with his legs beat a venom amped bane dragged a plane of 4 tons made hal bleed batman Sees bullets in slow motion and he can tag Speedsters and beat some batman got tortured for years by desaad and gave not up he Fought in a war for 37 years etc
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Captain America Your pretending the shield did the lifting and that Batman can do the same when he's never been shown to do so and cannot because he's not boosted. Your outright lying now.
Year zero placed Batman's age at 35 so to say he's fought a war for 37 is wrong.
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Batman The shield helped hold a wilder space with a shield batman can do the same batman and Cap are the same level he Actually did
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Captain America The shield isn't wider than Cap's arms actually.
You've never shown that Batman can do the same.
Actually did what?
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Batman He did the war also the shield helped cap
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Captain America When did he join the army?
The shield doesn't lift things by itself. It needs someone to lift it. It's not alive.
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Batman Yes without the shield cap can not lift it
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Captain America Actually he did. The shield doesn't give any lifting power.By your logic anyone who uses the shield can suddenly lift skyscrapers.
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Batman If they have the strength yes
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Captain America And Batman doesn't
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Batman He does
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Captain America No proof
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Batman I have
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Captain America What proof?
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Captain America Batman has beaten characters who are just as strong as steve, (Ex: Bane, Killer Croc, Deathstroke, etc)
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Captain America None of them are like Cap though except for Deathstroke and he's consistently beat Batman.
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Captain America Batman has never beaten Deathstroke in a fair fight. Cap is much more agile and more skilled than Killer Croc or Bane.
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Batman Bane >Cap also deathstroke is afraid of batman lol but yeah deathstroke>batman>bane>Cap>croc
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Captain America Why do you hate Cap? If you prefer Batman that's fair but then vote for Cap because he wins.
What's Deathstroke supposedly fearing Batman got to do with anything.
Deathstroke>Cap>Bane>Batman
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Batman Batman consistently beats bane this proves your biased
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Captain America Your just saying that now becasue I've proven your biased to Batman. Batman has beaten Bane but in fair fights he either loses, needs help or loses.
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Batman Batman beated a whole gang with villians including bane in some seconds after knightfall Batman usually beats bane Bane rarely beats batman
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Captain America Bane beats Batman fairly. When Batman does so it's usually unfair
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Batman Its the other way
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Captain America Batman lost to a naked Bane. Catwoman had to help him.
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Batman rebirth also batman beat bane while fighting many other villians at the same time
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Captain America Are you denying main continuity? Batman had recovered since then. Also if what you say about Batman is true then that shouldn't have been a problem for Batman.
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Batman Rebirth is linked to new 52 not post crisis
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Captain America Then why is it more similar to post-crisis than new 52
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Batman Because many people liked post crisis more then new 52 so they mixed them
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Captain America What I said is still canon
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Captain America Remember this
https://imgur.com/t/batman/mqJjQ3n
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Captain America No but I remember this
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Batman batman done the same
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Captain America When?
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Batman Featwise batman should stomp
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Captain America According to feats it's Cap who stomps
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Batman No batman
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Captain America No evidence
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Batman well you have also not given evidence in this comment
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Captain America I have to you.
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Batman i also
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Captain America You've never topped Cap's feats
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Captain America Cap has the better feats when it comes to speed, strength, and durability.
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Batman Really you could make arguments for both they are around equal
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Captain America You could make those arguments, but looking at it from an unbiased point of view, it's quite clear who is superior.
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Batman Not really
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Captain America One is boosted beyond human, one isn't
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Batman Batman is trained beyond human
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Captain America But not beyond the SSS plus years of training
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Batman Yeah he is
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Captain America No proof
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Batman Batman has all the advantages against cap
Strength :- Batman
Durable :- Batman
Speed :- Batman
X-factor :- Batman
Combat :- Batman
Equipment :- Batman
Anybody has problem with it feel free to reply me
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Captain America We both know your trolling so there's no point
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Batman I barely troll , bt now im serious
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Batman So mordru>the presence isn't a troll?
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Batman That was said by ur favorite utuber , dont u agree with it?
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Batman No I just enjoy his videos, they have a lot of effort put into them, I don't exactly agree with every claim including that one, also because I've talked with parrot before and he's chill
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Captain America You've admitted to favour DC over Marvel and said that strength, durability and speed go to Batman. That's a troll thing to say considering Cap is boosted, trains and has far better feats
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Batman Lol in which comic captain America has tag being like reverse flash and defeated kid flash ? When kid flash was willing to kick batman, and when captain America has hurt and make bleed green lantern like being with his bare hand? When he has fought someone being like etrigan several times and give him a challenge ? Can u prove any near feats shown by captain America?
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Captain America Tagging speeders is PIS. If you seriously think he can do that normally then no wonder your biased. Cap can't do those things because he's Marvel.
If you want to look at strength Cap held a skyscraper. Batman can't do that.
If you want speed, he reacted to Hulk and Thor's attacks and avoided lightening.
If you want durability he's had his own suit explode on him and jumped out of a plane unharmed.
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Batman Reacting bto flash >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>reacting to thor whose attack was easily douch by spiderman , wonder woman, hurting green lantern bs his hand any strength shown by captain
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Captain America Like I said Batman reacting to speeders is PIS and it's only happened like once or twice. Thor is consistently fast. Your best feat for Batman is getting punched by GL. Wow
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Batman No that wasn't pis , he easily defeated kid flash , i said make a green lantern hurt and even bleed by his punch , fought against etrigan many times
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Batman Lol Thor is slow
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Captain America Prove that he's constantly slow!
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Batman He has slow reaction speed not travel speed
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Captain America Bruh,Did you know that reaction speed is always higher than travel speed? Think if Silver Surfer had faster travel speed then reaction speed, he would constantly be running into planets and stars because he wouldn't have the reaction speed to see them; same goes for Thor. Thor has also been able to consistently keep up with enemies who have dodged Mjolnir meaning that his reactions are greater than his hammer's speed and much greater than his flying speed. Now prove without outliers that he's slow!
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Captain America @mxy You've proven your biased. Your just voting for who you prefer not who'd actually win.
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Batman Yes his reacting speed is so much greater than cap he could possibly blitz him by his punch and knock him by pressure point and other attack
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Captain America If you think Batman can react to speeders them that's just bias I'm afraid. Superman himself can barely react to them and your telling me Batman can
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Batman He can react to slower Speedsters kid flash impulse etc
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Captain America If Batman can so can Cap but better
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Batman How ?
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Captain America Cap is boosted, Batman is not
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Batman Bane is boosted Batman still beats him
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Captain America Batman's beaten a non-boosted Bane and even then it was a struggle. When Bane boosts himself he doesn't become as smart. Cap is has the brains and brawn
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Batman he beated a boosted bane while fighting multiple other villians and won easily he also beated him multiple times on his own Lol bane with venom is still smart
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Captain America Like I said bane loses his intelligence and skill when he becomes boosted so it's a trade off. Batman usually loses or struggles against Bane in fair fights.
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Batman Bane is still smart with venom
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Captain America I said he loses intelligence which sometimes leads to his defeat
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Batman Only if he uses to much venom
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Captain America He usually does
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Batman You really an idiot
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Captain America Says the troll who can't vote Marvel
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Durable :- Captain America(DUH)
Speed :- Captain America (DUH)
X-factor :- Even
Combat :- Batman (Small margin if any)
Equipment :- Batman

Captain America is the full potential realized. Batman is just super advanced as opposed to other humans. You must be trolling.
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Captain America This is how the fight would go;
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Captain America Deathstroke was distracted in that fight. Even Batman admits he wouldn't usually lose like that.
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Batman First batman was holding back and even then deathstroke said batman his punches did Hurt him so much and deathstroke>>>cap
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Captain America Deathstroke is not that far above Cap. You need to stop underrating Cap.
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Batman You need to stop overrating cap
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Captain America Don't reflect just because I'm trying to tell you a boosted soldier who trains all the time and has a superior willpower beats a trained man
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Batman Batman trained himself to the level Cap is and is still training and batman his willpower is superior
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Captain America He's not though because he has no powers. Show me proof he could do what Cap did
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Batman Since when does Cap have Powers ? The serum just enhanced his strength to peak human batman trained to get there
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Captain America Cap is boosted by the SSS. It's just his strength that's improved
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Batman Batman trained to get to peak human captain America got a serum batman is not just a trained man he trained to the same level of captain America and batman has superior willpower
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Captain America Also your treating it like the SSS is just steroids. It's not. It boosted you far beyond normal human capabilities. That's why it was so sought after. Cap is known for his will. Batman isn't compared to Cap.
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Batman And ? Batman trained himself far beyond normal human capabilities
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Captain America He can't force himself to do more than his body will allow e.g. he can't break a planet
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Batman Can captain America destroy a planet ? No then why Bring it up
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Captain America Did I claim Cap could do that? You claimed Batman can go beyond human capabilities. That should mean Batman can break a planet if he keeps training right?
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Batman According to you captain America can do that you said he is beyond human capabilities Batman is beyond them but he Cant destroy a planet
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Captain America I still never said that. Batman is not beyond that because he has no powers. He never will be
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Batman Powers have nothing to do with this captain America also has no powers
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Captain America Cap is boosted. He kind of has powers
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Batman He don't captain America got enhanced to the same level batman is
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Captain America Stop comparing Batman to Cap like that. Cap is boosted, trains and can do things Batman physically can't do
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Batman Except Batman has the same feats and better
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Captain America He hasn't been able to top Cap's feats.
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Batman He did
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Captain America When?
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Batman @tyrannus if ur debating , cap is boosted and batman is not so he lose , plz stop debating then
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Captain America @mxy If you believe that then why don't you vote Cap? Why do you want me to stop?
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Batman @Tyrannus just because he is boosted doesn't make him wins, he should surpass the batman feats which he can't
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Captain America He has. If you read what happened before you'd see.
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Batman he has not surpassed them
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Captain America I've already shown you he has. Stop pretending that never happened
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Batman And i debunked them
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Captain America How did you debunk Cap being stronger, faster, more durable, better stamina and having a quicker mind because of the SSS? Don't claim Batman reached that because you've never shown that to be the case
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Batman Batman consistently beats stronger charachters and win also Batman changed a plane direction with his legs lifted something about 10 tons dit speed batman battled Speedsters and won stamina around equal 1 hour of sleep is equal to 9 for him he has Fought 4 days non stop before
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Captain America Batman usually has help, prep or PIS. I know about Croc and Grundy but Cap is not like them.
I've already told you Cap's also changed a plane's direction. He's also held a skyscraper while Batman just lifted rubble.
Speedsters is PIS. 100%
Cap survived being frozen for decades then broke himself out.
All this proves how much better Cap is. Cap is boosted. Batman is not.
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Batman That's all false he beats those charachters most times on his own and calling it pis is just you Bring biased to batman sure batman preps some times but not against everytime Batman also beat bane who is equal to cap Speedsters is not pis batman won by stealth and strength Cap survived Being frozen so long because the serum changed his blood
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Captain America Your again just calling me biased because I've shown you are.
Batman studies before going into a fight. I've never seen him go in without understanding is enemy first.
Saying Cap is equal to Bane shows a lack of understanding given Cap would beat down Bane.
Stealth is not the same as reacting to speedsters.
The SSS makes Cap better than human which is why he beats Batman
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Batman He has beaten many villians on random encounters so what you are saying false Cap wont beat Bane when Bane has more things over cap . I said he beat speedsters not react it means he can fight charachters faster the, him and win . Terrible logic Batman is not just a man
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Captain America You seriously believe Batman attacks his enemies blindly without a plan?
What things does Bane have over Cap?
Beating speedsters by stealth doesn't mean Batman's as fast as them.
He's not a meta human therefore he is just a man.
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Batman Sometimes he gets attacked randomly so yes there are times when like deadshot was hired to kill him and he beat him or times when he knows someone planned an attack but dont know who batman dont prepares always He thinks of a plan during the battle. I meant being faster then batman dont mean you can beat him batman can beat faster charachters then him. lol he is metahuman mentioned by the comics
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Captain America He doesn't attack people who are stronger than him without a plan. Reason why Batman wins so often is he uses brains not brawn. It's why without prep he's going to lose to Cap. In this fight Batman doesn't have time to plan as it's a random encounter.
Pretty sure that's been retconned. Many fans complained about that because it ruined Batman's character.
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Batman That is not true he has battled killer croc with his fists beaten many of the best fighters beated bane clayface all without prep it got not retconned
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Captain America He'd fought Croc before at that point. Croc doesn't really need much to be taken down.
Cap's also beaten the best fighters around and even those who were better lost because Cap is physically better.
When was it officially confirmed by DC that Batman's a metahuman? Amanda Waller doesn't count because she just made a claim that couldn't be backed up.
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Batman And ? That matters he Broke his leg with a kick can you name some of these fighters the claim can be backed up by dionesium and his feats
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Captain America Shangi Chi, Wolverine, Daredevil and Iron Fist have all fallen to Captain America. He's physically superior.
Most fans don't like the metahuman part so I'm sure that'll be retconned soon as it ruins Batman
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Batman Shang chi Daredevil and iron Fist fair Point altough batman is a better combatant Wolverine did almost Break captain America with 1 kick and in another fight wolverine was outlasting him until giant man helped Cap
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Captain America Cap has shown dominance over Wolverine almost every time despite Logan having been around far longer.
I believe Wolverine cut Cap deeply in the leg which is the only fight where Cap began to lose. However Batman is not Wolverine so can replicate that.
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Batman The thing is batman and cape are Psychically equals except batman is smarter a better fighter and has larger gear
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Captain America Psychically (or mentally) I suppose they are equal but Cap is better tactically in a fight. Batman being a slightly better fighter doesn't help because of how much better Cap is physically.
Shield>batterangs.
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Batman Batman has more then. Batarangs like knockout gas smoke bombs electric gadgets he has almost everything
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Captain America None have worked in the past
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Batman What? What are you talking about ? What past ?
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Captain America Cap's resisted them all in the past
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Batman Batman his gadgets can oneshot An enhanced emperor penguin and send superman flying back he never resisted those gadgets
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Captain America What did he use on EP and Superman?
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Batman Electricity on EP explosive on superman His electricity has also affected zod
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Captain America The shield absorbs all.
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Batman Again batman first disarms second he could try 5 batarangs on his head while Cap is trying to block them he he uses his gadgets below him batman has also drones with feargas he can use
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Captain America He can't disarm him. You've been shown to be wrong many times now. Cap would block all 5 and then block those below because of how fast he is. Cap's shown resistance to gas before because of the SSS.
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Batman He can disarm him this proves you are biased to cap many People disarmed him before feargas is different you Cant Resist that except if you are insane
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Captain America Stop calling me biased becasue you are to Batman.
Cap blocks bullets all the time. You really think some batterangs are going to give him some trouble.
Your acting like many people have disarmed him which they haven't.
You don't have to be insane to resist gas.
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Batman Many People disarmed him Daredevil winter soldier moon Knight joker Scarecrow and batman are the only person who resisted the fear gas for Scarecrow and batman it's because its been used many times on them the feargas affected superman before
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Captain America Joker and Scarecrow aren't Marvel so couldn't have and Cap wasn't really trying against Winter Soldier. Daredevil is very different to Batman.
The SSS makes you immune.
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Batman Daredevil is less superior to batman in everything so if he can so is batman that's not how the feargas works it affected superman who is also immune to toxins and gas
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Captain America Batman doesn't have his radar sense and his perspective on things. Saying he's inferior is wrong.
If Superman got affected then he's not immune.
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Batman Batman has better Senses then Daredevil so invalid. Superman is shown immune to toxins the feargas is different then a normal toxin
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Captain America Batman isn't blind and ddin't have chemicals in his face. Unless Batman becomes blind he'll never have the same sense.
He obviously wasn't immune because he got affected
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Batman Batman has better Senses are you saying blind People have better Senses then People who can see?
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Captain America Daredevil isn't just any blind person. He has more. Saying Batman has better sense is wrong because there are some things only blind people can experience or feels to a greater extent
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Batman Batman his Senses are far beyond human capabilities also the fear toxins works on everyone
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Captain America But there nothing like Daredevil's.
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Batman They are
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Captain America Batman's not blind. Stop assuming he has abilities he doesn't
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Batman Never said he was i only said he has peak/superhuman senses
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Captain America You keep saying his senses are like Daredevil which they can never be.
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Batman They are comparable batman can smell emotions
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Captain America Lol no he can't. He's not a shark
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Batman He Actually can
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Captain America No proof
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Captain America Cap is stronger, but bats is faster and more durable, bats also has more versatily than steve, bats can also takes hits from darkseid where Steve got his ass kicked by thanos
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Batman Batman is stronger
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Batman Batman made a plane Change direction with his legs dragged something about 3 tons
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Captain America Batman has never been shown to be stronger. Cap is boosted so can do far more than Batman ever could.
Cap held a collapsed building. Batman can't do that
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Batman So did Batman and?
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Captain America Show me a scan of that?
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Batman https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/5/5c/14656.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160616030600 and https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/4b/Guiytu.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160616030629 and https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/19/Dsyru.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160616030705
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Captain America He lifted up a large piece of rubble. Cap as expected does much better https://imgur.com/a/XOxiR#0
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Batman and show me captain america make a plane change direction by his legs
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Captain America @jong Holding a skyscraper is far better.
@booyah Says the person who's never given any evidence and just downvotes.
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Batman Yeah his shield was helping him so. ..
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Captain America No. If Cap wasn't there, the shield would absolutely not just stay there and take the weight. Captain America is simply stronger than Batman. It isn't a comparison.
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Captain America The shield is part of who Cap is.
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Batman No the shield helped him held it up
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Captain America The shield needs power to actually hold the building up. The average person can't do that including Batman
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Batman Batman is not An average man he could do that if he had the shield
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Captain America Prove it
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Batman How is batman An average man can a average man react to People Faster then light punch People trough walls survive explosions etc
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Captain America The last 2 examples make sense but not punching someone faster than lightspeed. That's PIS. If Batman could do that he should never struggle against other non-meta fighters
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Batman Batman is more stronger and durable
Changed my mind
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Captain America One has a Super Soldier Serum, trains and has far better feats, the other trains too but that's it. Who do you think wins?
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Batman Terrible logic batman has better feats
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Captain America It's terrible logic that Cap is clearly superior? You've never been able to top my feats.
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Batman Both are psychically in the same level i told you feats of Batman Being clearly superior
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Batman https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/GQIti160pFWug9RQvs9SRdckrxfNsEccceww49erM7I/https/i.imgur.com/4SOiOpK.jpg
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Batman Unless cap has did like this he will get one shot by batman
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Captain America @jong You've never surpassed my feats. You've only made claims.
@mxy Your links never work. Try putting [url] around it or actually sending the scan.
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Batman Why vibranium and abimantium is so overrated in this site ,they talking like people don't lose if they got any
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Captain America Who said that? They're the strongest metals but that shouldn't matter because it's who uses it that makes the difference.
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Captain America Mmm, your salt is delicious. Also you, of all people, have no right to call anyone a w a n k e r, lmao.
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Captain America You say that, yet you were the one that brought me up here when I haven't even been participating in any recent discussions here.
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Captain America @iFailedNNN Well clearly you do because you get triggered very quickly when called out on your nonsense
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Captain America Doesn't appear
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Batman What scan is working properly
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Captain America I said it doesn't work
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Batman Cap only has a shield and strength.Batman has that and he also has World Class bombs, vehicles, grapplers and many other things against which csp doesn't stand a chance. So to sum it up, stomp
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Captain America Cap only has a shield and strength? His shield one-shotted Namor, took the turret off a tank and more. None of Batman's gadgets can counter his shield. He has more than enhanced strength. He has enhanced speed, reflexes, durability, healing, intellect, is a brilliant strategist, highly trained soldier and skilled fighter and martial artist. He has defeated Cache, a man who mastered all the martial arts. He has beaten Wolverine and much more. He is an inspiring leader. Black Panther said that if you are on Cap's side, you can rest easy knowing that you are on the right side.
Captain America is far more than a shield and some good muscles.
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Batman What are you talking about Magnetic batarangs can counter the shield
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Captain America They would just attack themselves to the shield so Batman would end up disarming himself
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Batman the shield attaches to them
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Captain America The shield is far larger and barely magnetic if at all so the batterangs will go to the shield.
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Batman What about a magnetic exploding batarang wich blast the shield away
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Captain America The vibranium in the shield just absorbs it
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Batman Yes but Cap would get knocked back and lose the shield
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Captain America No that's not how it works. The shield absorbs kinetic energy so that Cap doesn't feel anything
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Batman He don't feel anything but the shield gets away
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Captain America Cap won't feel anything because the shield wouldn't move. That's how vibranium works.
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Batman Captain America would fly away and he would drop the shield
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Captain America Your not getting it. Vibranium absorbs kinetic energy meaning there is no pressure applied. Nothing is moving that shield unless Cap wants to.
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Batman Batman his gadgets have stopped An enhanced emperor penguin
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Captain America It wasn't made of vibranium/adamantium alloy though
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Batman His gadgets could also send Supes flying back
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Captain America Superman isn't made of Vibranium which absorbs kinetic energy
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Batman Don't matter such a blast could Knock Cap out
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Captain America No it wouldn't. You need to understand that because vibranium absorbs kinetic energy, no force is going to be placed on the shield or Cap.
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Batman If cap throws the shield batman catches it if Cap charges with his shield to him batman Jumps over his head and attacks him from behind letting his shield fall
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Captain America That shield has gone through tanks. If Batman tried to catch it it's go right through him.
If Cap for some reason blindly charges forward and let Batman attack him from behind, Cap wouldn't let go of the shield.
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Captain America @Jon stop making stuff up. You can't seriously believe that Batman could catch a shield that KOed Namor and went through a tank. Is Bruce more durable than either? He's not more durable than Cap, not stronger, and not faster, all the evidence points against these arguments of yours except for a few outlier, inconsistent and mostly PIS feats.
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Batman Many charachters have catched the shield without going through it and what makes you think he wont lose the shield you just call everything pis or outlie bit when captain America does it it's not your so biased
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Captain America People that catch his shield typically have superhuman strength and durability. Batman does not. You'd be biased to say Batman can withstand a weapon with the capacity to cut through tanks. It's true that many of the feats you are using to 'prove' that Batman is more durable are outliers.
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Batman You just said many wich makes it consistently and no outlier also according to you everything Cap does is no outlier but when batman does it is
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Captain America Because the feats of Batman fighting for extensive periods of time is just bad writting, as no human, not even peak human can do that, whereas Cap is low superhuman, and has more consistent feats of endurance that go hand in hand with his super soldier serum. You need to stop making stuff up. Cap is stronger, faster, more durable, and just as skilled.
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Captain America Now this is fact
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Batman Batman is also superhuman if it's consistently don't you Cant call it pis or outlier batman has as great feats as Cap it's a fact
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Captain America Batman isn't boosted nor has he surpassed Cap's feats. You claim he does but never show proof.
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Batman I gave some proof
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Captain America I've surpassed them all.
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Batman both feats we gave are around comparable just admit it both are very comparable except batman got the edge in combat intelligence and gear the rest is debateble
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Captain America It's unfair on Cap given he's feats and more importantly who he is. Cap is boosted to be beyond human meaning he'll always be physically superior and can think and plan faster than humanly possible.
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Batman the same can be said about batman
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Captain America No it can't because Batman has neither the feats nor the SSS to contend with Cap.
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Batman he has the feats are you trying to say everyone without the sss loses to cap
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Captain America His feats don't surpass Cap. Anyone without powers should lose to Cap
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Batman Are we doing this again many people without powers beat him
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Captain America You said that before but couldn't mention these "many" people.
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Batman i did crossbones red skull hawkeye etc
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Captain America You only mentioned Crossbones before. Red Skull is also changed like Cap and I've never seen Hawkeye
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Batman I showed you pictures of Crossbones also that was when red skull was not boosted and i can show Hawkeye
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Captain America Red Skull isn't like a normal human so it'd be unfair to compare him. These still aren't many people like you've claimed.
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Batman Hawkeye is not boosted
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Captain America Never said he was but he isn't many people. Your acting like Cap gets beaten by people with no powers on the regular. Otherwise Cap destroys Hawkeye.
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Batman Im just saying it's irrelevant if your boosted or not we need to look at feats that's what is important
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Captain America Do feats show Cap losing consistently to normal people?
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Batman yes but its irrelevant since he is not just a normal human
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Captain America What normal person who isn't affected by anything consistently beats Cap?
Is batman a metahuman?
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Batman I mentioned above . yes batman is metahuman
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Captain America Not anymore.
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Batman He still is
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Captain America Need confirmation by an official source. What's he's powers?
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Batman Regeneration factor
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Captain America All humans can heal
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Batman He heals way Faster a bit slower then deathstroke
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Captain America That's not too helpful then
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Batman Changed my mind batman is also stronger and faster
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Batman Batman is very fast dur to his very had traning and strength, will he can pick up more than 500 kgs
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Captain America Captain America is much stronger and faster than Batman.
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Batman Batman made a plane change direction with his legs and lifted something about 10 tons he also has tagged kid flash and reverse flash both speedsters
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Captain America That is PIS. He can't do that consistently. Cap can because he's boosted. Also don't claim Batman's boosted too just because he trains because Cap does that too and then some
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Batman its not pis he does it consistently Batman Trained harder then Captain america has ever done and if we are talking new 52 batman is boosted by dionesium but this is post crisis so dont matters
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Captain America Cap trains all the time and can push himself further than Batman could imagine. Batman's still limited by his own body. The new 52 point was irrelevant.
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Batman The point is Batman has trained way harder and we can see that by his feats who are superior
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Captain America I've already shown you before Cap's feats which Batman's been unable to replicate
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Batman I showed way better feats
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Captain America What feats have surpassed mine?
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Captain America @Tyrannus none. You are right. Jon is making stuff up by relying on a few feats that pale in comparison to Captain America's consistently superior feats of strength, speed and durability.
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Batman You said yourself before im using many outliers wich means inconsistent feats but that makes them consistently
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Captain America They make sense for Cap because he's boosted
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Batman Captain America is on the level of batman
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Captain America Batman isn't boosted
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Batman And ? Steve is boosted until the same level like batman
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Captain America No he's boosted far beyond Batman. The SSS isn't steroids
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Batman Why does it make that steroids ? And they are comparable in feats
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Captain America You make it out like the SSS makes you like a trained fighter. It doesn't, he's boosted far beyond that a normal human can now do meaning he can now do things Batman never could.
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Batman Batman trained himself far above a normal Human your underrating batman
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Captain America I'm not I'm being fair. Batman loses to a man who surpasses him in everything.
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Batman How does he surpass him in intelligence combat gear durability strength speed willpower stamina etc
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Captain America Cap may not be a genuis like Batman but in battle that doesn't matter. Cap can think much faster and plan better.
Cap's suit is almost as strong however he doesn't need it. He's far more durable, stronger and faster becasue of the serum with far better stamina.
Your missing the point. Because Cap is boosted, He's physically better than Batman ever will be. If Batman can do something, Cap can do it far better.
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Batman Batman is overall smarter Batman is more durable as strong and fast and stamina is also equal He got boosted to peak human wich batman also is
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Captain America You ignored what I said. Being smarter doesn't matter in battle. Cap can startegise far better and quicker.
You always claim Batman's more durable, stronger, faster and better stamina but never prove it despite facts showing that Cap is.
Do you know how the SSS works. I've told you so many times it's not steroids. It didn't make Cap like Batman it made him physically superior. Can do things Batman never can with all the training in the world. Once you understand that you'll realise why Cap would win.
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Captain America Cap is more durable, is faster, and has better stamina. Captain America is a low superhuman, even by comicbook standards. Batman can only be considered superhuman by REAL life standards, but under comic standards, he's still a peakhuman (although at the highest you can get).
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Batman Why does it always say the serum made him at the peak of human potential also batman has many Actual superhuman feats wich does Cap have ? Also batman is Stated metahuman Durability is close but i give it to batman speed and stamina around equal
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Batman @tyrannus Also it's mentioned multiple times the serum made him at peak human condition batman trained to get their Cap got the serum and if you say Cap is superhuman i can claim the same for batman
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Captain America 1) Statements aren't as valid as feats are.
2) Most of Batman's superhuman feats have heavy context behind it, and like I said, he'd be superhuman in our perspective, but from a comicbook standpoint, it's not.
3) Captain America has kept a building from balling, he's pulled a helicopter, lifted several tons, hurt Hulk, Spider-Man, and Iron Man with his punches, and several other feats.
4) "Metahuman" is a human with superhuman abilities. It's not the same thing as a superhuman. A metahuman can have the durability of a normal person.
5) Too bad Cap has better feats in those areas.
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Captain America @jong No Cap is beyond human capabilities now. He's far beyond was normal humans can do. A peak human wouldn't have survived being in ice for decades. Anything Batman can do Cap can do far better.
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Batman Except batman is not just a human by feats batman is superhuman him surviving hits from wonder woman hurted lashina tagging Speedsters batman dragged 10 tons made a plane change direction with his legs Fought for 3 days etc wich better feats ?
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Captain America Like I've said, anything Batman can do, Cap can do better. Cap took hits from Hulk, Thor and Thanos. Cap's also changed a plane's direction. Tagging speeders is PIS.
Batman pushed off rubble, Cap lifted a skyscraper.
Batman fought for 3 days, Cap survived getting thrown into an energy core for some time.
Yeah I'd still say Cap is better which makes sense give he has the SSS.
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Batman Batman survived hits from shazam darkseid doomsday superman lobo etrigan zoom mongul Tagging speedsters is not pis Batman can also react to deathstroke who consistently beats speedsters Batman was tortured by Desaad for years, feeling the combined pain of Apokalypse without giving up he is still alive after being stabbed in the neck, the back twice all the way through the lungs, having his face lit on fire, and being stabbed in the eye he has gone longer than 4 days without sleep before 1 hour sleep is like 8 for him Despite not sleeping for a week, being drugged and starved he ripped apart a metal duct the thing wich gives batman a better willpower is because he knows he tires but that dont mean he should give up he did last 7 weeks without food or water after a week of being drugged, with no food and then being stabbed and beaten, he gets hit through a marble wall and is still in shape to fight he survived having his heart stop completely for a few minutes he got buried alive and came back he can make 10 minutes of air last for an hour he Survives a cold blast from Killer Frost strong enough to freeze the entire Justice League etc
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Captain America Thanos had the IG when he hit Cap and it even broke his shield but Cap held firm. Speeders move faster than the human mind can even fathom. Batman should not be reacting to them.
I thought we agreed Cap and Batman have similar willpower, now your backtracking.
The human body can only go 3 days without food and water. I know this is only comics but given the extreme hardship Batman was going though, saying he went 7 weeks is definitely PIS.
Bare in mind given Cap is boosted far beyond Batman because of the SSS this means Cap can do all those things.
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Batman The shield protected him from the hit. If batman can react to deathstroke who consistently beats speedsters i dont see it as pis . I tought you think cap has more willpower but alright. Dodging a bullet is also impossible bullets go faster then a plane but batman still does it so real life logic should not be used also for the last time batman trained himself to the level cap is
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Captain America The shield broke instantly. It didn't save him and Cap still tanked those hits. Even so the shield is part of who he is. Deathstroke shouldn't be reacting to speedsters either. He's fast but not speedster fast.
I said I know this is comics but to go 7 weeks is stupid.
Your not getting it. Listern, the SSS makes you far beyond anything a human can ever do. Batman will never be able to reach base SSS levels. Stop ignoring that.
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Batman All the power did go to the shield destroying it so the shield saved him Deathstroke does it consistently like batman so.... he has more feats like that . Your not getting it Batman is far beyond what a normal human is
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Captain America Thanos beats him afterwards. The shiled didn't completely stop Thanos.
If you actually think Deathstroke and Batman can react to speedsters then that's really bad. You need to understand how fast they really are.
You still ignoring what I said. Batman can train all he wants, he'll never reach base SSS levels. Bare in mind Cap trains as well so he's beyond that.
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Batman The shield stopped most of the attack . Batman can react to slower speedster by stealth and suprise like kid flash impulse etc Deathstroke has beaten almost every speedster . no Batman trained himself to cap his level and still trains
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Captain America The shield cracked immediatly and shatters after that.

Surprising speeders is something else but reacting to them isn't possible. Deathstroke can get away with it because he's boosted and even then it's a stretch.
Batman can never be on Cap's level because he's not boosted. The SSS made Cap far beyond that of human capabilities. On top of that Cap trains so he's even better. You really need to understand that.
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Batman The shield absorbed the shock and Broke Batman has the same feats like Cap and comparable batman trained to that level and still trains
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Captain America Your assuming now even though Cap was pushed back. If the shield broke it couldn't have defended Cap.
You repeatedly claim Batman has similar feats but can never top Cap and never will because Cap is boosted. Batman is not.
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Batman The shield absorbed the shock and Broke without the shield cap would be dead that don't Mean anything when Cap losed to normal humans before and Batman beated boosted charachters before
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Batman The shield absorbed the shock and Broke without the shield cap would be dead that don't Mean anything when Cap losed to normal humans before and Batman beated boosted charachters before
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Captain America At best it absorbed Thanos slightly. Your ignoring that Thanos hits him again afterwards. Cap didn't die. Your assuming or lying now.
Name normal humans who can consistently beat Cap.
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Batman It absorbed most of the blast yes thanos hitted him but i mentioned charachters who hit as hard as thanos wich Bruce survived hits from
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Captain America If something shatters it can't save you. You keep ignoring Thanos repeatedly hit Cap even after he broke the shield. It makes sense for Cap because he's boosted
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Batman The shield Tanked the full hit and got destroyed . And batman surivived similar hits
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Captain America That's not how things work. If something breaks it means it couldn't withstand the force.
When has Batman withstood something as powerful as Thanos with the IG?
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Batman The shield absorbed the hit The first time thanos hit the shield it was not destroyed then he swiped the shield away Cap tanked nothing
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Captain America The shield cracked immediately. It didn't swipe away because it broke after the second hit. It doesn't matter, Thanos kept swiping at Cap.
Do you even know what happened?
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Batman In the picture i see thanos hitting the shield then smashing it away Cap tanked nothing
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Captain America The shield just shatters. Look at the last panel. Do you even know what happens next? Cap didn't end up beating IG Thanos you know.
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Batman The shield got destroyed when thanos swiped his hand
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Captain America That's what I've been trying to tell you. It didn't save him because Thanos hits him afterwards
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Batman No the first hit did not destroy the shield completely just a bit so thanos swiped his hand and destroyed it Cap tanked nothing
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Captain America Are you denying Thanos hit Cap?
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Batman The Gauntlet don't higher thanos his strength
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Captain America Actually it does because he had the power stone. Thanos did use the IG because if used the ground grap Cap's legs. Check the comic again
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Batman Send the scan again
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Captain America Check above.
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Batman He never hitted Cap
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Captain America
If you don't know what happened don't pretend to know
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Batman Cap got ohko
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Captain America Yeah because this is Thanos with the IG. This scene shows Cap's determination to win no matter to odds. He refuses to lose.
Also you denied Cap getting hit. You've been caught lying a few times now
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Batman Cap got hit and ohko the same can be said for batman he don't quit
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Captain America Except Batman's ran from lesser beings like Wonder Woman before.
You denied Cap got hit before
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Batman He never Ran away from them batman has the guts to threaten the Spectre fight darkseid slap Orion
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Captain America He did. Read Wonder Woman the Hiteteia. Also don't pretend to know when you've been shown you don't.
Batman couldn't threaten Spectre, Spectre burnt the victim in front of him.
Your grammars really bad. Put full stops or paragraphs.
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Batman He could not move anymore wonder woman got him batman threatened Spectre more then 2 times i can give the scans
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Captain America He gives up.
I've seen the scans. Spectre tells him there's nothing he can do and burns him anyway.
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Batman If Cap was there the same would happen he kept trying but could not move batman still has the courage to confront Spectre and he did multiple times
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Captain America Cap would never give up.
Speaking to Spectre meant nothing. Spectre ignored him and burnt the victim in front of Batman.
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Batman Then wonder woman would keep her leg on his head so he wont move forever about spectre im talking about something else
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Captain America Cap wouldn't have put himself in that position in the first place.
I don't know what you said at the end
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Batman Yeah wonder woman would do the same to him
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Captain America You've shown you don't know Cap so I don't believe that.
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Batman You don't know batman
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Captain America Your just saying that in retaliate again.
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Batman It's true
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Captain America Your the one who's shown a lack of understanding of Cap several times and overrates Batman massively. Everyone disagrees with you
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Batman Wrong more People voted batman then cap
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Captain America Because he's more popular and many people think he has prep. Everyone who comments has said Cap stomps Batman. He's just outclassed.
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Batman Oh so you admit captain America VS bane is also voted on populairity? Not everyone @jackcy @remy94 @breaker @ifailed @mrincongnito and i can name way more voted batman you seem to don't understand both charachters it's not a stomp it's a close fight
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Captain America I haven't seen those people defend Batman like you do and unfortunately you've shown you are biased to Batman. DS vs CA is a close fight not this
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Batman I think we are done these People have Also defended batman and you Also have debated them for a bit the only thing is they quit and im not quiting for defending my favorite charachter im not even close to biased to batman i think green goblin spiderman or black panther beat him even tough i don't like them deathstroke VS captain America is not close
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Captain America Haven't seen them do so in a while. @AkhilPDX, @Heroicsacrifice, @Heroclix etc have all explained how Cap is just better but you don't want to accept it and now we know why. Apart from @Mxy you are very biased to Batman. Saying Batman beats Cap is bad enough, saying Batman beats Flash is proof of bias.
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Batman They all made some interesting Point most of them are now inactive or got sick from hearing the same thing over and over again im not quiting for defending my favorite charachter i debunked all your claims but you keep saying the same things over and over batman vs captain America is very close it's not a stomp
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Captain America @ifailed made no points expect getting angry. @Mr_Incognito admitted I made very good points and was unsure. Haven't seen @Breaker but the rest haven't responded in so long and would probably change their mind.
It's not about quiting it's about accepting the truth. I love GL and Cyclops but I've voted against them mostly. Instead of denying it just accept Cap would win. Even Batman admitted it, why can't you?
You've literally debunked nothing. It's why I keep saying it because it's facts you ignore. Never said it's a stomp.
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Batman @mr_incognito made good Points and all those others still think batman win i messages some on discord and they still think batman there is still @mop @norinradd @galactus @holy_joe @scarlet_witch_stomps @soratoumiga even danco knows batman wins your the only biased here im not even close to Being biased to batman and can accept when he loses and im open to change my mind the crossovers made it clear both are equal in all the crossovers they had batman did say Cap COULD win not would win batman was not even his gadgets in that scan i debunked Actually many points you said before captain America stomps
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Captain America Which he later retracted after saying I made good points.
Everyone else since is saying your biased and that CA wins.
At this point your just defending Batman because you don't want to see him lose.
Stop calling me bias just because you are. @AkhilPDX, @Heroicscarifice, @Heroclix and I are all baffled how you keep denying Batman loses.
You said CA and Batman are comparable yet even with Daredevil you said Batman wins, you said the SSS only made CA equal to Batman when it surpassed him and worst of all you think Batman beats Flash. Yes you are definitely biased and the fact that you will not accept Batman's loss despite the evidence proves it all. You definitely do not have an open mind because you ignored all facts.
Danco actually said everything I said. Watch it.
Bare in mind crossovers favour the more popular hero so writers would never show Batman losing. Batman is very proud so for him to admit CA wins means CA really will win.
When did I say it's a stomp?
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Batman Incognito still thinks batman wind he just said you made good Points your the only one who says im biased for saying Cap wins i think green goblin beats batman even tough i don't like him im not biased wow 3 People who agree with you i showed you 20 and @hericlox got debunked horribly same for akhil who i debunked on discord stop acting like batman is fighting galactus they are comparable Daredevil is not that much to deal with the comics themselves show them both equal they have equal feats i also think captain America beats flash so what ? Im not ignoring anything your just Being salty i talked with danco on Instagram he changed his Mind i can show you. That is not An execuse you also showed things from crossovers before again batman said he could win could is not Would
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Captain America AkhilPDX, Heroclix and Heroicscarife have all said so too. Check the above comments.
It's be really bad if you voted against GG but you still voted for against Flash which is worse. You vote for Batman when you don't understand the other person and because you don't understand CA you voted Batman.
Name the 20 people you showed. If you don't then that's proof your a liar again. So many times you lie.
@Heroclix didn't get debunked because I showed you he's right. @Akhil still shows you your wrong too.
When have I said he's fighting Galactus? Your exaggerating now. DS is comparable, not Batman.
Daredevil is more comparable yes.
TBH your the only one who sounds salty because you refuse to have your mind changed.
Danco actually made indisputable facts in that video which I've been telling you all along. Everyone's trying to tell you (including Batman himself) CA will win. Why won't you listen? Only reason is bias.
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Batman Yeah and ? More People voted batman. Yeah that's not true captain America would also beat jay garrick and i understand captain America more then you he is the marvel charachter i read the most comics off @mr_incognito @danco @remy94 @mop @norrinradd @galactus @holy_joe @scarlet_witch_stomps @soratoumiga @jacky @breaker @ifailed @hawkinz @bodhi @batsheet @devy @drmanhattan42 @ Batman313 @emptyhand. @heroclix his response was then how does batman beat black panther after i debunked her she had no other claims i debunked @akhil many times don't Bring him up deathstroke is a team Buster until captain America can beat someone like te teen titans or justice league he wont give deathstroke a good fight Daredevil is a match for nightwing not Batman your the one who refuses to change his mind again in the crossover they where shown comparable batman said could win not would win and it was a h2h fight Danco told me changed his Mind on that fight and batman beats captain America your the biased person here
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Captain America You claimed it was only me so you've been caught lying again.
I've told you Batman's more popular and people assume he has prep. Don't ignore that again.
CA cannot beat a speedster. Jay beat Black Adam.
I've had to correct you on many things regarding CA so no you don't know more.
You said you listed 20 people before. Most of these people are people you've only mentioned now and even then you've just listed a bunch of names.
I'm not talking about BP.
Never seen you debunk @AkhilPDX. He speaks a lot of sense, why dismiss him?
If you knew CA you'd know he's taken out a whole stadium full of villains. Comparable to DS.
Stop reflecting. Calling me biased and saying I don't change my mind after I've shown it's you is making you look even worse.
If Batman admitted that, that means CA wins. Batman almost never admits stuff like that so that means CA will win.
Danco hasn't taken down the video becasue it's right.
Yo know you can end this by admitting CA wins. He's physically superior, everyone says it, so can you. You don't even have to change your vote, just admit the truth. We can even delete the comment afterwards if you don't want anyone to know.
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Batman I said only you and some others these People made claims for him without prep so no captain America beat Quicksilver it seems i do know more about captain America they are not just names stop thinking this is a complete stomp because it's not @heroclix was i debunked akhil on discord can you Tell me some of these villians comparable to deathstroke Batman admitting that means nothing he say Cap could win not would als batman Sayed Cass could beat him even tough Cass lost to Thomas Wayne batman nightwing red hood ravager etc batman thinks he beats superman is that true ? danco don't agree with you Being psychically superior means nothing it's completely irrelevant in this fight when batman consistently beats charachters psychically superior No you better Change your vote because you are wrong
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Captain America You said "your the only one who says im biased". Please stop lying and just accept the truth.
Never seen them defend Batman blindly like you do. At least Mr_Incognito accepted my points instead of ignoring it.
Quicksilver is not the Flash. Far from him.
Lol no you don't know much on CA. You'd lied or assumed many things about him.
Where did I say in my last reply CA stomps?
You couldn't debunk @Heroclix because I showed you he was right. You must have ignored it again because it makes your favourite look bad. Akhil hasn't changed his vote.
CA took out a stadium full of villains.
So your ignoring Batman himself. More proof you are definitely biased. That's really bad. Batman also admitted he'll lose to Cass and even @LordTracer proved this but once again your ignoring the facts. This is shocking. 100% biased.
Link didn't work. Being physically superior is why DS wins and it's why CA wins.
I noticed you did actually change your vote but changed it back for some reason. You saw the light for a time. In time you will again. I believe in you.
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Batman So im biased for thinking batman beats captain America? They Actually defended batman most are inactive now but i see them on discord incognito still thinks batman wins it seems like you think he stomps i debunked heroclix then you made Points and then heroclix so how does black panther beat batman then because akhil is biased wich of these villians are similar to deathstroke?
Ugh do you know the difference between would and could ? Batman saying that means nothing since batman beated her before and do did nightwing ravager red hood Thomas Wayne batman according to you Cass is above batman who is above superman since batman thinks he can beat superman i Changed my mind
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Captain America Again your ignoring the other reasons why which I've listed repeatedly.
Most active people here say CA wins and you've yet to show otherwise apart from bias.
Don't assume things. If you didn't do that you'd see why CA wins.
I defended @Herclix's points which still stands.
@AkhilPDX isn't biased. We see the truth.
Do you know Batman? He doesn't like to admit these things so he must have realised CA is just better. However ignoring Batman himself is stunning because even he disagrees with you. Batman beat a weakened Cass. If you scroll up you'll see he admits in a real fight he'll lose.
You've never shown Batman is superhuman so don't get ahead of yourself.
Again another link that doesn't work.
I've already changed your mind because you temporarily moved your vote from Batman. At this point you know CA wins your just in denial
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Batman does it work now im ignoring nothing someone who thinks red Robin beats batman is what we call biased why does it Actually even matter who votes what it's our debate heroclix debunked nothing you defended her Points feats disagree statements means nothing when the fears disagree except if you think batman beats superman i proved it so many times i did accidently
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Captain America The video still stands and he never actually countered anything said.
You said voting Batman against CA is the only reason your biased even though I've shown many other examples. By ignoring it you've once again proven your bias.
You ignored my comment on Red Robin. Stop being salty.
You've shown no feats that disagree.
"statements means nothing when the fears". Erm what?
You accidentally proved Batman beats Superman? Ok
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Captain America 1) You actually never ended up debunking my arguments. The closest you got was proving that Batman knew more than 127 styles of martial arts, which, jokes on you, I already knew. What I said was that Batman has mastered 127 styles of martial arts but he's proficient in many, many, more.

2) I have proven to you that Captain America is undeniably stronger, faster, and more durable. Your counter was "dionesium" but you never bothered to explain why that makes Batman even comparable. Statements cannot override decades and decades of feats. Unless it's someone like the One Above All or the Presence or someone with omniscience, TRY again.

3) DanCo never said he blatantly thinks Batman is above Captain America. He said he might "almost" lean towards Batman. He has always believed Cap wins and like @Tyrannus said, he never countered his old points. Don't go around trying to convince random people that Batman wins because you couldn't convince us. All that proves is that you unknowingly conceded because you have no rebuttal to why Batman can logically win.

4) @soratoumiga doesn't know who wins and @ManofPower actually changed his mind on this battle (or he's still at the stalemate conclusion) thanks to yours truly.

5) Also... Captain America has mastered every martial art on the planet (he at least knows every martial art), so that should put him on par with Batman's own fighting skills if not above.
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Captain America God bless @AkhilPDX!
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Batman Does it matter what other voted ? By logic both could win again stop thinking this is a stomp it's not Again when have i shown bias against batman thinking he beats some other street tier charachters ? Lol i think green goblin beat batman statements means nothing when the feat disagree
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Batman 1 we debated this many times you ended up going offline many times. 2 when did you prove that can you do it again i Brought up dionesium because tyrannus keeps making the boosted argument. Strength speed and durability are close and don't matter in this fight since batman consistently beats stronger faster and more durable characters if you say they are nothing like captain America batman his gear combat and intelligence let's him win batman is smarter a better fighter and has more gear then Cap he beated the bat bane without gadgets bane is almost as smart and as good as a fighter as him 4 i asked soratoumiga and mop and they both said batman also i can name more then 20 People who think batman and showed facts like Prodigy unknown etc 5 captain America don't relly much on his combat He usually beats his enemies because he is stronger batman has beaten or stalemated or gave a good fight to everyone from the top 10 best fighters not only that but batman is also trained in kryptonian Martial arts so not only earth martial arts he also knows every pressure Point Berger strike and 400 ways to knock someone out without drawings blood
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Captain America You keep ignoring several things said. 99% of what you said was just wrong and has been debunked. You repeatedly say wrong things and say it like it's fact. It's not so shocking now that we know your biased.
Your can either admit your biased or admit CA wins.
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Batman So you ignore everything and only talk about me Being biased instead of stating facts i think i won this debate
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Captain America No I've countered everything you said but you've repeatedly ignored it. You've also lied a few times. You did actually change your vote earlier so I did get through to you but your bias brought you back to Batman. You know CA wins at this point but bias won't let you admit it. It's ok, at least you know now why Batman loses.
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Batman Keep Dreaming i accidently clicked captain America and i see you are still not stating facts or debunking mine we are done i won this debate
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Captain America Nope I changed your mind but your biased to Batman so couldn't stay against him.
I've stated the facts several times which have debunked everything you said. It's why you ignored it. Scroll up to see.
I changed your mind but you couldn't do the same which is how I won. You can ignore it all you want but it's too late. I got you
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Batman Stop being salty how about you Change your vote the debate is done i won you have up you have not adressen my claims and instead was talking about how i biased i was
Tyrannus
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Captain America Yep here we go again. I showed you your biased, you retaliate by calling me biased. I say stop being salty, you say the same thing back.
I've already won because I got you to change your vote. You can never change that.
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Batman Your the only biased here the only thing you are doing is calling me biased instead of debating me my phone was lagging so i accidently clicked captain America
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Captain America Loads have people have shown your biased while you've only said it in retaliation. You've refused to read the evidence, use false equivalence and repeat the same thing.
Don't believe you given that you lie often.
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Batman You still have to prove im biased and if im so biased how about you debunking my claims instead of talking im biased i read all The evidence you posted i never used false equilvance and we both where repeating the same thing if you want to continue the actual debate reply if not don't respond
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Captain America We already have. The fact that your still denying it proves our point. Your known now
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Batman You can think what you want buddy
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Captain America Yeah that's why you changed your vote not me
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Batman again missclick
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Captain America Lies
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Batman Copy in your browser
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Captain America ?
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Captain America If you mean just typing in who wins even then it shows Cap winning
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Batman No nvm
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Captain America You do know even if you google this question it says Cap wins
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Captain America He was outnumbered and I think he was tired there too but if you want to look at anti-feats;
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Batman Batman wins, deal with it
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Captain America Wrong. Stop being in denial
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Batman Agreed batman wins
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Captain America Cap wins.
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Batman Comparable physicals, superior hand-to-hand skills and feats, more versatile equipment. Cap has no chance. Also you lost all your credibility when you said that Cap wins against Deathstroke when he is stronger, faster, more durable and his armor gives him regeneration and enhance his physicals to a higher degree. YOU are in denial my friend
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Tyrannus
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Captain America They're not comparable physically. Cap is boosted far beyond that of any human reach. Cap has just as good if not better feats that PIS. Batman isn't getting past that shield either. You lost your credibility in thinking Batman's comparable. See the truth, we're trying to help you.
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Batman I think we're done here, it's like talking to a wall.
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Captain America Because I have facts and you have bias. Agreed
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Batman Actually batman wins
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Captain America More empty statements with no evidence to back them
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Batman Batman has Fought in a war for 37 years and a did a gaunlet 28 hours without sleep every time he beats someone new comes in and Fought 3 days non stop
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Captain America He can't do that consistently, Cap can. Cap's been around for far longer. Batman according to Year Zero (or One) established that he's 35 years old and even then he wasn't Batman the day he was for born so it's impossible for him to have done this for 37 years.
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Batman Batman can do it consistently i gave many evidence read Batman (2016) #39)
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Captain America You haven't given many evidence. Don't name a comic show me a scan
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Batman I Cant send to much scans
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Batman Batman wins.

This is a very close fight and can go both ways but Batman edges out a victory when all is stacked and ready.

These are not the MCU and DCEU versions of the characters. In those universes, Captain America comfortably smashes Batman. This focuses on the comics.

Comparing their abilities;

Captain America was injected with a super soilder serum which gave him the abilities of a perfect peak human, and carries a nigh indestructible vibranium-adamantium alloy shield.
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Captain America You just described why Cap wins
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Batman Yeah but you voted for the right winner
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Captain America So you agree Cap wins?
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Batman No he voted batman
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Captain America I know that it's just that in his explanation he just described why Cap would win
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Batman Lol batman is way more durable he tanks headshots and bullets like nothing he survived a stab trough lungs while on fire Cap got almost killed by a gun batman has also better stamina smarter better fighter better gadgets
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Captain America Reality

Jongensoden
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Batman What does the first scan prove for the second Well green lantern is universal so you Cant really compare them for the third bane had prep and he Broke a mentally insane tired batman and bane is above Cap either way
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Batman How did you do that with the 3d scan
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Captain America Cap got shot in the head but recovered not too long after. Bane would beat Batman in a fair fight.
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Batman Batman got shot in the head he just got knocked back he is is also still alive after being stabbed in the neck the back twice all the way through the lungs having his face lit on fire and being stabbed in the eye he tanked attacks from wonder woman Lobo in base suit
Jongensoden
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Batman Also batman and bane are equal both have won against each other
Tyrannus
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Captain America Batman couldn't recover like Cap can. WW humiliated Batman. Cap's tanked hits from the Hulk. Batman can;t really beat Bane fairly. See City of Bane
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Batman Batman did not need to recover he did just get knocked back Batman could take hits from wonder woman in different comics and no.cap tanked hits from proffesor hulk not base also What about Lobo clayface and all the other feats i told city of Bane is new 52/rebirth not post crisis
Tyrannus
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Captain America When has he ever just get knocked back from those attacks. That's sounds very unlikely
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Batman I van show you
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Captain America Show me
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Captain America I meant scans of the examples you just listed like him tanking hits from WW, Lobo and having his face on fire
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Batman Let's be honest that comic shown,shows Batman getting hit by green lantern and that's worse than a bullet..his Enemies and friends are so much stronger than marvel universe..I agree with everyone voting for Batman.. Batman is no joke..
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Captain America Even Batman's admitted he's lose
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Batman Batman should win thanks to his gadgets and martial arts skills
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Captain America Batman has a much higher ceiling and is much more versatile as a team member but in a random encounter with standard gear I see Captain America winning more often than not. Steve is Stronger, faster, and has greater endurance with comparable skill. Both are tactical geniuses on the battle field. Bruce is slightly more skilled and with his armor has comparable durability. Batman will take some with gases, Sonics, ext... but Steve's peak evolution durability/endurance gets him through most. I see Captain America blocking everything thrown his way while he closes the gap and overpowers or outlast Batman. Captain America 6/10.
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Batman Batman has greater endurance
AkhilPDX
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Captain America Wrong @jongensoden.
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Batman It's equal or batman is better
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Captain America Cap has the SSS. Batman has nothing
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Batman Its bassicly irrelevant since batman trained himself to have 2 hour sleep and survive a week without sleep once batman kept fighting with Broken bones and bullets in him and he got knocked and he did just stand back up to continue the fight
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Captain America He's always being told by Alfred and the others to rest more. That's not feasible. Cap's done all of that and then some
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Batman And ?
Tyrannus
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Captain America Therefore Batman can't do all those things. He wants to but he can't
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Batman But still does them
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Captain America I'm pretty sure Alfred does force him to sleep. It doesn't sound plausible for Batman to do that.
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Batman Batman trained himself to sleep 2 hours in a week
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Captain America Show me scans of that.
AkhilPDX
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Captain America Just because Batman does that doesn't mean he doesn't feel the side effects. If he keeps doing that, Batman's lifespan will decrease over time and he'll fall to fatigue at one point. Alfred does have a point. He needs to get more sleep. Cap's healing abilities take some of that pain out but even he needs to sleep. The difference is that Cap can fight for a much longer period of time than Batman.
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Batman They can fight around the same periods if time and no batman trained himself to have good health while sleeping 2 hours and go into rem
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Captain America They can't. Batman isn't boosted like Cap is. 2 hours isn't enough. It makes him worse in the long run
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Batman batman trained himself to peak human condition and trained himself for 2 hours sleep so he can still fight if there.is crime in the night
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Captain America That's not possible. Where's the proof that he does that consistently?
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Batman It has been mentioned many times
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Captain America Scan?
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Batman Read Batman (1940) #682 Detective Comics (1937) #776 Detective Comics (1937) #598
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Captain America Scans?
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Batman I love both of these characters... my favorite marvel character vs one of my favorite DC characters. Here's my take on it:
Strength: Cap
Speed/Reflexes: Cap
Intelligence: Batman
Combat: Batman
Durability: I'll give Cap the edge, think it's close
Weapons/Gadgets: Batman
Just my opinion. I think this is a great fight, but that in the end Bruce would win more times than not due to his genius intellect, combat skill, and gadgets. He has fought people who have been his physical superior many times and has won several.
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Batman Agreed with you except i think batman is more durable
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Captain America Cap is way more durable. It's his SSS
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Batman Serum or not don't matter batman has better durability feats
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Captain America Has Batman been shot in the head and got up a few minutes later, survived being frozen for years or been thrown out of a plane and survive?
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Batman Batman survived without blood kept fighting with Broken bones and.after getting knocked out Waked back up and.kept fighting
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Captain America Intelligence? This ain't no spelling bee. lol. In a fight (random encounter) Batman is not more tactically adept than Cap.
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Captain America The human body cannot survive without blood so that was poor writing or magic was involved.
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Batman Stop bringing reality in this this is fiction not reality in fiction it's possible
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Captain America Batman is just a man without powers. All the training in the world doesn't change that. Humans in comics aren't different
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Batman Except it does do you know one punch man just by training he can beat almost everyone with 1 punch
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Captain America In DC comics humans aren't stated be be stronger than in real life. Batman has no powers therefore can be assumed to be limited by his humanity.
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Batman It don't need to be Stated it's shown in all his feats
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Captain America Even so Cap is just physically superior
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Batman Not that much
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Captain America The SSS boosts you very much so
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Batman Batman trained himself to there
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Captain America That doesn't make Batman better. Also, Batman isn't on Cap's strength level and he won't be. No matter how hard he trains.
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Batman Strength not but the rest is almost comparable
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Captain America Speed and durability aren't comparable. Fighting skill is very comparable, maybe Bruce takes the slight edge. Intelligence goes to Batman and so does gear. Cap is still more experienced, is physically superior, has fought more powerful opponents, and their fighting skill is almost even.... so yeah, Cap wins in a random encounter.
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Batman Durability is for batman speed barely Cap Batman Fought more powerfull opponents how is Cap more experienced he has been frozen for many years Batman consistently fights with stronger opponents and wins Cap is a 2 tonner batman consistently beats bane who without venom is a 2 tonner he also beat many other charachters stronger then him
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Captain America Cap is far more durable. He's boosted so he's physically better in every way. No amount of training will surpass that. Cap doesn't age as well so has been around far longer. Batman can't beat Bane fairly. Read City of Bane.
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Batman Except i proved batman is more durable you did not you only keep saying Cap got the serum batman is a man in post crisis they are around equal city of Bane is new 52/Rebirth
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Captain America You didn't. Batman hasn't been able to surpass Cap's feats. A man cannot do what a boosted man can do. Batman couldn't beat Bane in City of Bane
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Batman Batman is a man who who booster himself so he is a booster man and that is new 52 even then outside of Knightfall batman has beaten bane most times he once even beat him with 1 punch altough they are around equals bane is stil above cap
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Captain America Batman isn't a boosted man he's just trained. He's taken nothing special to make him boosted. Bane is not above Cap. Your really underestimating Cap now
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Batman Bane is way smarter stronger durable and debatable a better fighter Cap is boosted to peak human batman trained to peak human altough peak human is just a term both have superhuman feats
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Captain America Bane really isn't as smart as Cap at all as he's outsmarted all the time. Cap can react and think extremely fast while making plans and simulations in his head to see what to do next. Cap isn't boosted to peak human at all. He's far beyond that. I'm sorry but it seems as though you don't know much on Cap.
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Batman Bane is barely Outsmarted Ras al ghul one of Batman his smartest enemies Sayed he is very smart he also beated him in chess Bane also Found out Bruce Wayne is Batman and the location of the batcave both Batman and captain America are superhuman
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Captain America Batman is famous for not having powers. He's not superhuman. Cap is.
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Batman Superhuman has nothing to do with Powers do you think any human irl can punch People trough walls i don't think so peak human in dc is around superhuman Batman is even mentioned multiple times as metahuman and he consistently beat charachters like Solomon grundy killer croc venom enhanced bane deathstroke
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Captain America Your confusing superhuman with superhero. He doesn't having any unique powers, just training.
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Batman Again superhuman has nothing to do with Powers Batman can lunch People trough walls no human irl can do that peak human in fiction is most superhuman irl i just showed you examples if him consistently beating superhuman he also mentioned many times as metahuman and in the new 52 he kinda has Regeneration Powers bit this is post crisis
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Captain America So training makes you a superhuman? Batman's also loses to many metahumans and 9/10 he should lose if it weren't for prep and PIS
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Batman In fiction yes feats disagree he is not the strongest some Humans can beat him but he is around mid
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Captain America So why aren't body builders considered superhuman in DC? What non-powered humans are beating Cap?
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Batman Because bodybuilders Cant punch People trough walls of survive gunshots black panther can beat captain America and many other charachters
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Captain America Bodybuilders train all the time too. They don't punch threw walls because that would be PIS. Therefore Batman isn't superhuman. He's known for just being a man. Also where did Black Panther come from?
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Batman You are mixing real life and fiction Fiction is different Nothing about batman is realistic Batman is mentiones multiple times as metahuman /Superhuman and he has the feats to support it you said What non-powered humans are beating Cap? i answered you
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Captain America You said if you train your a superhuman in DC but that's not the case. Batman's a superhero not a superhuman. He's famous because he has no powers and still fights metahumans. Who are the many other non-powered humans who can beat Cap? BP is slightly boosted
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Batman Never said that i just said peak human is equal to superhuman and again superhuman has nothing to do with Powers and if you still say he is peak human then he is a peak human with superhuman feats but so is Cap then and in the new 52 dionesium gave him Powers either way this is post crisis so it's irrelevant to this discussion Baron zemo has also beaten cap
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Captain America "peak human is equal to superhuman" according to who? Cap has superhuman feats but that makes sense because he's boosted. I don't know why you keep bringing up new 52 then retracting it. Baron Zemo has been changed by Adhesive X.
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Batman Captain America also lost to red skull and crossbones peak human is equal to superhuman in dc according to feats and ? Batman his training was so hard he also got there
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Captain America Red Skull is also slightly changed. Crossbones doesn't really overpower Cap. Where is it established in DC that if you trained really hard your suddenly superhuman?
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Batman Red skull is still below batman Crossbones has destroyed Cap before the feats say you except if you think captain America is also no superhuman because did many things captain America has done and above
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Captain America You claimed normal humans beat him all the time but everyone you've mensioned it boosted in someway compared to a normal human. When did Crossbones destroy Cap? He's "beaten" Cap but not by outfighting him. Again when Batman exceeded Cap's feats?
Also I'm struggling to understand what your saying. You need to put full stops or paragraphs because I don't know what you said in the last part.
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Batman And ? Batman is also no normal human Crossbones. Has destroyed Cap with his fists i did say you can become superhuman by training in dc because the feats say so except if you think captain America is also no superhuman because Batman did many things captain America has done and above
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Captain America Are you saying Crossbones is like Batman? He never destroyed Cap by beating him physically. DC hasn't specified that having feats suddenly makes you superhuman. Tim Drake had feats before he even became Robin. You've still yet to show proof of Batman exceeding Cap's feats.
I'm still struggling to understand what your saying. Why do your reply in one long sentence?
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Batman Batman is more powerfull then Crossbones and yes Crossbones destroyed Cap by outfighting him. Irrelevant batman his feats are comparable to captain America and bane so except if both of those are no superhuman then batman is not i showed you batman fighting for weaks changing the direction of a plane with his legs surviving attacks from wonder woman tagging Speedsters beating kid flash and more
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Captain America When did Crossbones overpower Cap? You never actually showed any of those feats. Bane has shown he is able to beat Batman fairly before. A recent example is in City of Bane where Batman had to cheat to win.
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Batman Batman has litteraly beaten many villians easy on his own on the same time including bane city of Bane is rebirth/new 52 bane and batman are around equal in post crisis both had wins against each other i can show Crossbones destroying cap
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Captain America Batman couldn't beat Bane fairly. Bane is slightly different to Cap though. Show Crossbones
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Batman A serious Batman has knocked out bane with venom with 1 punch many time before Altough bane also had some wins
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Captain America Cap's beaten him many times before including without his SSS https://imgur.com/a/jImwO#0
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Batman Yeah but Crossbones still won once
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Captain America And Batman's lost to Robin. What's your point?
Cap beating him without the SSS erases that other PIS defeat
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Batman Batman never lost to Robin if he did he was holding back wich he always does against the batfamily also in the scan it seems he had the serum
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Captain America
I have sent this to you before. Stop denying facts. Robin and everyone else in the family also holds back.
In the title it says he doesn't
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Batman That is pre Crisis batman who is ******* weak he is just a man in a costume also the Robins don't hold back he got the serum the same like the suit or even a bit before maybe he lost it
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Captain America Robins always hold back against Batman because that's their mentor. Why wouldn't they?
No Cap had lost the SSS at that point. It shows what I've been trying to tell you for so long. Cap even without the SSS is physically strong becasue he trains. The SSS makes him far better.
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Batman He is above average human without the serum without the serum batman can ohko him
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Captain America This isn't Cap without the serum though this is Cap with it.
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Captain America Captain America could solo the entire justice league except for flash and Batman
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Captain America No, just no.
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Captain America Did you just forget Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, Aquaman, Hawkgirl and Martian Manhunter exist or something?
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Batman Captain America Cant even beat cyborg
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Captain America Cap beat down Iron Man. Cyborg wouldn't be hard. You need to stop downplaying Cap.
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Batman Except iron man almost killed cap
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Batman The only leaguer he has a chance of beating is Batman. The rest one shot him.
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Captain America Iron Man is better than Cyborg so if Cap has a chance against Iron Man he'd have a good chance against Cyborg.
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Batman Except Iron man almost killed cap
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Batman Ok i'll give you cyborg. But anyone other than those two turns Cap into roadkill.
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Captain America @jongensoden Iron Man is much better than Cyborg.
@Mr_Incognito I've never claimed Cap could beat the other League members
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Batman Yes iron man is more powerfull but he killed cap i don't see why cyborg cant
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Batman @Tyrannus Acknowledged. Don't know why I felt the need to add that last part lol
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Captain America A sniper killed Cap. It wasn't Stark's fault
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Batman Im reffering to something else Tony grabbed cap from his throat and was going to kill him but he changed his mind
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Batman Did he just say captain America can take in the whole entire justice league??haha
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Captain America Batman is not superhuman like Steve is. This is a major weakness. Batman is full of capable gadgets but to cap that's just another hydra soldier. Captain America beats Batman
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Batman Except batman is metahuman and fights with Solomon grundy killer croc all who are psychal superior to him yet beats them he even beat clayface who held his own with wonder woman supergirl and powergirl mister freeze who can freeze cityblock and Poison Ivy who has many cityblock level feats he has city block level gadgets he trained every Martial art on earth and kryptonian Martial arts and he created his own batman wind hard in durability they are equal batman survived without blood Fought with Broken bones got knocked out and Waked up 1 min later to Continue the fight batman is also smarter
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Captain America Batman's famous for not having powers. That's what makes him great. He does a lot of things which are PIS
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Batman Except it's not pis because he has so many of those feats so many it Cant be pis he trained himself to peakhuman
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Captain America Yes peak human but not surpassing it. Cap is boosted far beyond anything a human can do.
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Batman Batman is Peak human with superhuman feats he is mentioned as metahuman in the comics
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Captain America Cap can do everything Batman has but much better. He's fast enough to hit Spider-man 3 times, could react to the Hulk and Thor for a time, ripped metal alloys apart, benched 1100 pounds and pulled a helicopter down. Batman is outclassed here
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Batman I don't think many people are debating that Cap is Batman's physical superior at least in speed and strength. However, Batman fights people like that all the time and wins a good majority of those fights. Batman is a genius and the best strategist on earth. He also has mastered every single modern fighting style and has studied every martial art known to mankind. Cap is a great fighter, but Batman has him outclassed in h2h combat. Also, Batman's gadgets give him an advantage. His sonic weapons, explosive batarangs, smoke pellets, etc. also give him an advantage.
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Batman @Incognito agreed
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Captain America The thing is while he's a better h2h fighter, it's not that far. Cap can take as many hits from Batman and it wouldn't be a problem. Cap hits Batman and it's going to hurt more. This is likely as Cap is faster
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Batman Except it is batman knows 127 Martial arts plus created his own plus knows kryptonian Martial arts his punches barely Have affect on batman
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Captain America Cap beat Taskmaster who knows almost every move in Marvel. That and Cap can do it faster and more powerfully
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Batman Tasksmaster is not that good of a fighter because he packs experience
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Captain America You don't need experience when you learn instantly
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Batman Except tasksmaster lost to Deadpool and moonknight
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Captain America He lost to them because they're both crazy and fight randomly
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Batman Batman is harder to predict then both
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Captain America Batman isn't crazy like they were. He has a style and position.
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Batman He is still smart and if he would know tasksmaster his ability he would find a way to beat him
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Captain America But he doesn't. The more he fights Taskmaster he worse it becomes. Eventually he'll run out of tricks.
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Batman You are forgetting batman also can predict moves
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Captain America So can Taskmaster
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Batman Yes and ? Taskmaster wont win that way so batman wins by Being psychically superior
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Captain America Yeeeaaah...no. His standard gear has no gadgets that could reliably counter that shield.
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Batman He has
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Captain America Like what?
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Captain America How can Batman stop his shield shooting towards him? That has one-shotted Namor? That has taken the turret of a tank? Can Batman take it? No.
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Batman Batman can easily Dodge it and Grab it
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Captain America You think Batman can grab it? You think he is more durable than Namor and a tank? You think he is fast enough to dodge what Spider-man could only barely dodge (being 40 times more agile than a peak human)? Stop overestimating Batman! He is neither more durable than Cap and can't take the stronger hits from his shield. Even if he does take it away, Cap is still as skilled, and stronger and faster.
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Batman Captain America hurting namor is pis and batman can easily dodge depending where they fight and Grab it Batman is way more durable like i already proved somewhere else but you ignored you also seem to forget batman consistently fights stronger and faster characters and takes the win like bane killer croc Solomon grundy and more
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Captain America Not everything is PIS Jon.
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Captain America Batman usually had prep in those fights. He can't take them face on
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Batman What hell no Batman did solo some of his Rogue gallery without prep wich included Bane he also beated him in
multiple other comics without prep a serious Batman almost killed killer croc with his punches without prep again Batman also beated Solomon grundy with pressure Points and without prep
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Captain America If Batman can do it Cap definitely can given he's physically better
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Batman Except the feats disagree as i showed
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Captain America You haven't. I asked for scans of Batman tanking heavy hits and you didn't provide them. Meanwhile I should examples of Cap doing so.
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Captain America @Jon This is what you said that really annoyed me: "Batman is way more durable like i already proved somewhere else but you ignored..." Except you didn't prove anything. I already proved that Cap has fought opponents stronger than people like Bane. Cap is more durable, Batman fighting superhuman opponents doesn't compare to Cap doing the same, while also hosting many other feats of endurance and durability, and without the same amount of plot armor as Batman.
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Batman @Heroic so if Cap does something comparable it's not plot armor but if batman does it is you are heavily biased against batman @Tyrannus i Will show
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Captain America And you're biased in Batman's favor. I'm saying, Batman beating the JLA and Superman is not valid here as he had a lot of PIS and prep time. I'm saying that both fight superhuman foes much stronger than they an win, so just applying that to Batman ignores Captain America's feats. Batman takes hits from Bane and Killer Croc. Captain America takes hits from Spider-man, Iron Man, cuts the Zola virus from his chest and keeps fighting, gets shot then tackled by a monster and fights it off, survives a building falling on him and more. Batman has beaten Bane, Killer Croc and Solomon Grundy? Captain America KOed Nuke who is extremely durable, one-shotted Namor with his shield, (and he has consistently done things like this with his shield, so most likely not an outlier) took the turret off a tank with his shield, beat up Batroc, Machete and Zaran at once before the fight was interrupted and beat Cache who mastered every fighting style on the planet like Batman has. Hmmmm
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Captain America It makes sense for Cap because he's boosted by the SSS. Batman isn't.
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Batman When did i mention batman beating superman and the justice league stop making stuff up Namor has destroyed Cap every time except once so it's a big outlier batman tanked hits from clayface a 80 tonner and wonder woman when he was out his suit and Lobo he even survived without blood he survived a building falling on him Cap got almost killed by a gunshot batman tanked multiple headshots also van you explain me who cache is and his Powers work ?
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Captain America When has Batman tanked those hits and been fine? Surviving without blood may have been a magic ritual so not a consistent thing. I've already shown you Cap's survived a gunshot to the head and recovered soon after. Batman's never done that.
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Batman I showed you batman tanking headshots and no batman surviving without blood has nothing to do with magic
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Captain America You've never shown Batman surviving without blood
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Batman Statistically speaking, Captain America is faster, stronger, and tougher while Batman is smarter and more skilled in terms of combat. Captain America's shield may be unbreakable, but he's severely lacking in the arsenal department, and that would put him at a huge disadvantage in this fight considering Batman has a plethora of gadgets that could counter the shield.
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Batman Also Batman fights charachters stronger more durable and Faster then him and beats them trough skill Solomon grundy killer croc ( who Batman did almost kill) Bane etc also Batman knows 127 Martial arts plus created his own and knows kryptonian Martial arts he is also smarter
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Captain America Cap is nothing like Croc or Bane. He's smart and has one of the best willpower in comics. He's like Batman but better in almost every way
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Batman Bane is also smart and batman has a better willpower he trained himself to be the best Cap got a serum because he had not enough willpower to train himself batman Fought with Broken bones got knocked out and after 1 minute Waked up and continued the fight batman never gives up
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Captain America Bane isn't like Cap. Cap had the willpower before the serum not after. It's because of that willpower that he was chosen. Cap would do everything Batman did but better
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Batman Bane is smarter then Cap if he had the willpower he would not have need the serum except Batman had done Way better then him
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Captain America Bane is not smarter. Bane can be smart but also stupid. Cap is always smart and more tactical. The serum made him strong but it doesn't change his mind. Batman is still limited by his humanity.
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Captain America @jongensoden Lol, Captain America had the willpower to do the right thing, even at the cost of his own life. He only got the super soldier serum so that day wouldn't come because the world needs more people like him. Even with the super soldier serum, he fights people like Loki or Thanos, and he has the willpower to survive and take them on. He does it because it's the right thing to do.
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Captain America @AkhilPDX Finally
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Captain America @Tyrannus: remember Bane broke Batman's back the first time they fought with Batman needing to use his gadgets and skills just to beat him and even then he only beats him by targeting his venom tube otherwise Bane would just break his back again. The thing is Cap doesn't have a weakness like a steroid tube or anything like that nor is he a brawler like Bane which would make it harder for Batman to beat him. All in all Batman is a couple pegs more skillful and far more experienced than Cap but is skilled enough to keep up and is much faster and stronger than Bruce.
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Batman @Dark_Wing have you read Knightfall Bane did need prep to take batman down and even then he Broke a mentally weak tired batman
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Batman Also everything you said never happened from where did you got that @Dark_Wing
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Captain America @Jongesoden: what did I say that didn't happen?
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Batman Everything you said where did that happen
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Batman Batman has consistently destroyed bane only beat batman in Knightfall with prep he made batman tired and mentally insane the rematch was with azrael batman not Bruce and He never cut his tube azrael batman did
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Captain America Bane hasn't really been that smart since and Batman has used prep. The City of Bane is doing well. Haven't finished reading yet so not sure.
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Batman Oh you where talking about that comic
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Batman @Dark_Wing wich storyline where you reffering to
HeroicSacrifice123
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Captain America Another point one could make is that Captain America is similar to Deathstroke. And fights with Slade rarely go well for Batman.
(Deathstroke is stronger, better-armed and more ruthless than Cap, but the fact remains so.)
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Captain America Deathstroke isn't similar to Captain America
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Batman Deathstroke is not similar
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Captain America They've both had SSS and military training.