Thor

He’s not

Bcs of his feats, we shoudnt scale characters based of their feats if they have much comics and are popular

@Dante my guy do you hear yourself ? Feats and statements is how you scale character and their popularity doesn’t change what they can and can’t do, Thor is not overrated

It was Galactus, he changed some of the superpower scores.

I did change a few 'Grand' powers.

Which ones?

Both of them have feats that slip into multi.

Almost every character in comics have ridiculous feats, that doesn't always put them consistently on that level.

Well Thor is a top-tier herald. Yes a lot of of characters have ridiculous feats, but Thor's higher end feats are consistent enough to put at Tier 7.

Idk, he has as much good feats as anti-feats just like Supes, I don't think they'd share tier with characters like Darkseid or Mangog who DO prove to deserve consistently that scale, but ok

Anti-Feats don't always automatically mean lower score. By that logic Supes would be Street level because he was harmed by Batman wearing a Kryptonite ring. Also Supes had stalemated Darkseid in power before.

Surely, what I meant was when we're scaling a character we have to see the whole picture, not only the good things, as well as Clark isn't street level by that anti-feat he's not either Multiversal by stalemating Darkseid or punching infinite, not counting those are mostly PIS feats.

Well looking at the big picture would mean considering Tier 7 feats for characters, Base Thor has enough feats at that range to qualify for this tier. I agree though that putting this profile at Tier 8 or above which would never happen soon is a huge outlier.

It's not about how many feats Thor has, it's all about how many times he can do that without being considered a feat, but something he'd do casually every day of the week.

7.8 million is ridiculous

I really wanna see thor's haters face right now

Yeah this is stupid

Tier 7

I think this changed because of spoiler alert
That pheonix connection was that she used her powers to revive thor in avengers 1000000 bc when he was frozen by lokis father and proved that thor was really Gia son

Thor with the fan force

Thor's competed with Sentry soo many times even at base.

He's Tier 7 and had some missing abilities.

Indeed. Black panther's stats also needs to upgrade

BP's stats are fine IMO, he would only get higher with prep and non-standard equpment.

@Tigerking2020 Now this your stat and your stat is considered to be accurate, I like to see some scan for Thor is a human or remove Peak Human Condition.

I forgot got to remove that

@Ezio could you unlock so I can remove that stat.

What about the multiple Universal level beings Thor has defeated in the past? Using anecdotal evidence in order to try and lowball Thor proves absolutely nothing.

25% of multiverse *
4 thors together hold the multiverse with their powers

Also there are certain characters that have higher stats than him that he would beat in a fight. Examples: Loki, Silver Surfer, Raven, Zatanna, Goku's transformations, Beerus, Jiren, Dio Over Heaven, etc.

Pretty much all of those characters beat Thor. Also, that’s not a good justification. Power levels are not the be all and end all.

@Mr_Incognito Thor obviously beats them, he's defeated stronger foes than them.

That’s a very poor justification. Silver Surfer, Goku, Zatanna, Beerus and Dio have all faced stronger foes than Thor too.

Thor defeated Silver Surfer before and other beings like Galactus, Surtur, Gorr, etc. He even has better feats than those characters I mentioned.

So what? That doesn’t mean you should make his power level so high. Superman has beaten beings who are multiverse busters but you don’t see his power level or tier getting upgraded. Don’t abuse your power of moderator.

@Mr_Incognito Superman deserves to be upgraded too since he's a herald an has those types of feats. I'm not abusing my power as a mod, I'm just doing my job. I can prove to you why I believe Thor should be higher and I can show you his feats.

You aren’t taking consistency into account. Just because Thor’s high end showings are universal+ doesn’t mean he should be that tier, since he isn’t consistently that strong. The character’s tiers on this site represent their power level most consistently demonstrated. You aren’t supposed to base someone’s stats off the highest feat you can find.

@Mr_Incognito Well with Thor he's been consistent and at least performed enough multiversal feats to be on this level.

Here's why I believe this profile should be higher:

Thor as a kid was able to lift a book of infinite pages



In his fight with Doctor Doom(Tier 7), he shattered a hole in 2 realities:


Due to his divinity thanks to being an Asgardian, he can transcend dimensions:


Thor was able to push the world engine of Yggdrasil


Yggdrasil contains a multiverse inside of it:


Thor shattered one of Yggdrasil's roots:


Thor with Mjolnir is strong enough to crack to skull of a Celestial which are at least multiversal in power:


Thor was able to harm the Phoenix Force soo badly that it had to consume a planet in order to regain its power:


Thor defeated Mephisto in his own realm where he is at his most powerful:



Thor Managed to Harm Galactus' helmet:


With his God-Blast which is standard to him he is able to do very OP things with it:

Harmed and nearly killed Galactus with it



KO'd Ego the Living Planet who is a Skyfather


Banished Ymir and Surtur to another dimension



With all of this, Thor's performed enough feats in order to be Tier 7

A lot of those feats aren’t multiversal in scale, they’re just dimensional.

@Mr_Incognito Still is enough to be Tier 7. For example, his fight with Doom was able to create a giant hole between 2 universes. This feat makes Thor at least higher than universal because it was able to affect more than 1 universe. He did that while he wasn't amped.

Dimensions are same size as universes

@MoNsTeR are you replying to me or @Mr_Incognito?

incognito

@Ezio What do you think?

currently I do not care about strength, speed, power , durability bars and tier, Because I try to explain to everyone how they work, in the end they do it in their own way.And there is no harmony between stats.
I just focus on the superpowers so they are not wrong.
As long as your view is that this character has defeated that character, then I have to find a way to increase his stat to more than the other one. Things will get worse.
Roderick Burgess captured Dream of the Endless with just one spell, Does this mean that he has more power than Dream?
For the thousandth time, When you see a character's victories, you must also see her defeats too and as far as I know main Thor has a lot of failure.

Well Base Thor does get stronger and makes up those failures, His record is still good. But I still think he should be higher but still below his more powerful counterparts. I already heard and understood what you think from you, Monster, and Mr_Incognito. I'd like to hear what other users think before we make a final decision.

@Tigerking2020: I can't think of a single feat from base Thor that would put him at Multiversal in power, though my criteria to determine if a character is Multiversal or not is probably a little more strict than most. I'm not sure how the moderators of this website did their scaling, but in my opinion, a character would have to have destroyed a Multiverse or defeated someone who destroyed a Multiverse, and base Thor has never done that. Almost no character has done that to my knowledge. And if they did, their power was either amplified, they were retconned, or they are literal comic book manifestations of actual writers of comics. I think Thor's tier is right where it should be. He is Universal in power, because he has multiple feats to suggest as much. Maybe, the tier of those characters that you mentioned above should be reduced. That sounds like a better solution than constantly moving characters power levels up.

@SirSpidey Well his score is lower than certain characters he's more powerful than, plus Tier 7 I think is still suitable. Even the feats I shown imply that he is on that level even at base and he's done them consistently.

@Ezio: What failure do you speak of? Because we also have to take into account that Thor almost always holds back, even in the most perilous situations. And if it is true that Thor almost always holds back, that would skew your perception of how powerful Thor actually is, because he would "lose" to lesser beings. I'd like to clarify this for you.

@Tigerking2020 His stats are already too high. 450k was plenty for Base Thor.

@Mr_Incognito Monster did say before that Tier 7 is more suitable for him than Tier 6. If we upgrade the stats, his more powerful forms would be still higher than him.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. If SirSpidey of all people says that Thor isn’t multiversal in his base form, then you know you’re overestimating him.

Why should it be only what SirSpidey thinks, why not ask what everyone thinks about the stats.

If the biggest Thor fanboy on this whole site is disagreeing with you, you need to admit defeat. Also, did you wait to hear everyone’s opinions before changing Thor to 600k+? I didn’t think so.

Such an angry little boy.

While this isn’t my fight,I think you should hear incognito out.

-outside opinion

@SirSpidey You're talking to me or Incognito?

@Mr_Incognito It doesn't matter if someone is the biggest fan of a character, I'm still waiting for everyone else to respond.

@SirSpidey Oh, don't even try it dude. Compared to all the outbursts you've had, mainly which involve cussing people out, i'd say I keep my composure pretty well.
@Tigerking2020 Obviously he's talking to me, he likes to goad me on.

@Mr_Incognito: What do you mean? All you ever do is cuss at me and say mean words at me.

Name a single time I’ve cussed at you. And you’re the one who’s mean to people. For example, you took a scan I gave out of context and I called you stupid for it, and then you called me stuff like “little f*ck” and “clueless dickhead.” And you tried to hide behind saying you were just retaliating. That’s like if you bumped into me and my response was to shoot you.

Tier 7 is excessive for Thor. Leave him the way he is.

@Mr_incognito the first time you came to this site you were insulting Blotskya and you called him stupid, so i mean calling sirspidey stupid just because he is using out of context scans is unacceptable. You could have just said something nicer.

Though Sirspidey I hope that you don't ever retaliate like that again my man. Like that's going to keep visitors from not coming to the site. Using words like that is going to reduce our community. Try to keep it more civil @Sirspidey you were in the military man.

@Jakcj He doesn’t deserve to be talked to nice with the stuff he says to other people. Also, that stuff with Blotsky was over 2 and a half years ago when I didn’t know he was mentally challenged. The stuff he was saying was dumb, but I didn’t know at the time. Can you get off my ass?

@Mr_Incognito so what your saying is violence is your answer? So if a down syndrome guy came to the site and said something stupid. You would literally insult the person because it annoyed you that much?

When in any part of my response did I say violence was the answer. Like I said, I didn’t know he had that at the time, and the stuff he was saying was pretty ridiculous.

When has Thor ever been invisible or intangible?

by using mjolnir he can be intangible and invisible
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Mjolnir#:~:text=Invisibility%20and%20Intangibility%3A%20Thor%20can,completely%20intangible%20and%2For%20invisible.

Can't you just be happy that Thor increased by over 100k like you wanted-🤨

Yeah,i was really happy with that!But,my intention is thor is not far below from sentry and silversurfer. Infact thor is stronger than both of them(not stable sentry) and almost as versatile as them..
Even,on that day,i argued u on the same intention.How can he be below surfer if he already statlemated surfer for almost 14 times and even beat him 2-3 times including even when surfer stopped holding back in Thor #470..

You should talk to Tigerking2020 about that, I believe he's the one that's updating all the characters.

 @MaseTheFace Oh,thank u!I will try to..

Yuh😌

Ezio edited him

Sentry >thor >silver surfe But the statistics has surfers are fine maybe increase them has sentry and thor would be good

agreed

People hate thor so much in this website thats why they downvote me and u but I would vote u

agree i have many arguments why thor is infinite dimensional lol :D and also hulk

On his max he is easily touched outerversal tier

agreed
he has even multiversal feats in his basic form
but i think 7 tier is suitable for him
however the policy of superhero database is keep thor and superman equal and on same tire to have both side of dc and marvel fans

What did you update?

@SirSpidey I didn't but you didn't notice he went up like 100k

He should be 1M at least

So basically like any other immortal.

No, the only way Base Thor can be immortal is if he eats a Golden Apple of Idunn.

Yes, but it doesn't mean you should fault the writers for being creative.

He's been eating those apples since childhood hasn't he?

The apples are from
Norse mythology and they don’t make him immortal, he already is, the apples just helps them maintain their youth, like look younger

Actualy stats are too high needs an update, he should be tier 5

I swear I see you everywhere trying to downgrade all of the Thors and actually thinking that you could.

Thor is overrated on this site. Prove that he is tier 6.

He is low multiversal. And show me how he is only galactic or universal

First this profile is the profile of the weakest Thor and the picture you sent is a Thor more powerful than this one. Second your picture does not prove anything.

He just says that he transcends dimensions.

If this is the best Thor's feat then even this Jedi is more powerful than him.

The picture I sent you was the exact same Thor. I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Secondly that wasn’t a power scale, you asked me how Thor was low multiversal and I showed you the scan. Thor escaped from alter ego who was in another dimension.

And that wasn’t his best feat, again you asked a question and that was my answer.

Lol 😂

You can tell that to those 22 users have given him uStats.

@Ezio uStats are a joke, every stats are 90-95 based on that smart 22 persons.

No they are not a joke. They at least cared enough to devoted their time to create a uStats. My suggestion to you and those who just complaining is that stop nagging and make Ustat. On my behalf and Galactus, I can say that we pay attention to the uStasts in our editing.

So with all due respect I would tell those people not to waste their time creating the uStat of a character they know little about, since a person who knows decently about Thor would never put 90 on his strength (for example) and surely many more will agree with my point. I just did my Ustat, however, I appreciate your work.

Agreed Combat Should Be 100

If anything combat should be lower

Wdym?

"Experts" then.

That is surprising. Apart from @Dark_Wing I'm not sure who else knows Thor well enough and has the power.

I know

Say that to Man-Thing, 71 🤷‍♂️

@Mr_Incognito Fate will be updated. Be patient please. Also, the number means very little. It can be bothersome but try your best to ignore it.

And... he's been updated to 100!

His speed durability and intelligence should all be 100. Other than that nice job.

That is because you're used to seeing his stats so low.

even higher lol

Or maybe it's the other way around

Thor is heavily overrated

He is overrated by some and underrated at the same time. I don't think so, because I saw that he had speed 90 and etc.

Thor is heavily overrated

i Agree Thor is too overrated

Agreed.

Okay. We get it, people. You all hate Thor. But let's try not to keep this comment section full of such statements.

Who knew Thor could be such a controversial character? Would you guys see me as a biased Thor supporter or hater?

Neither your not really biased to any charachter

Scarlet Witch

@Tyrannus It’s not the character, it’s the fans of the character. I’m sure you feel the same way about Batman or Saitama fans.

Lmao see Wanda's wankers saying ''Thor is heavily overrated'' just cuz he beats their favorite character 😂

I changed it to 100, who-- oh my God.

I don't see his speed at 100.

Just updated it.

Thanks!

Oh I see. Thor's Mjolnir can fly Speed 100?

Who the--
hater.

Speed would be 100

Astral projection also. He's done it on multiple occasions

None of the powers got added :(

Everybody likes to low-ball Thor 🤷🏼‍♀️

Not really. People w*nk the crap out of him on this site.

Agreed with @Mr_Incognito

@Mr_Incognito Agreed.

@Incognito @Jon @Lapis What you guys just said only makes what @ThorMathews said be confirmed 🤷‍♂️

We are in the minority, there are more people like you.

For Greek Thor

Why you think that?

Alone, he moved 3 times faster the speed of light.

So? Thor doesn't use Godblast a lot. Does that mean he doesn't have it? He doesn't use magic a lot. Does that mean he doesn't have it?

But, I didn't understand what it meant. "-- -- comes from Mjolnir almost ever"? That line makes no sense. Closest meaning is he almost always uses Mjolnir as his main speed.

They're not similar.

Agree

?

I said I agree

I know. The question mark was because I didn't understand why you both thought he was "ewwww"

Because he stomps Scarlet Witch and they hate that fact.

No Wanda stomps him

Wanda is more unique and powerful.

I know how you could learn.

By reading all of Thor's comics starting from Journey into Mystery which has a bunch of minor villains but even those guys count.

And then see if you were wrong about Thor.

@mxy You do not read Marvel.

No. GL can't beat him with ease. You must not know that much about Thor. Thor=Superman in a fight. That means he would probably defeat GL 6/10.

Green lantern beats Thor hard fight

I think it is the other way around. But I agree that it is a hard fight.

Agreed.

Guys, Thor has matched Silver Surfer, Sentry, Hulk, Hela, Quicksilver, And numerous other quick people

All of that is either PIS or because Thor only uses a third of his power at MOST while in Earth.

That's an infinite multiverse of PIS! And the author of that book was likely drunk because he said a hypersonic Wolverine is faster than a MFTL+ god. If you want to use Wolverine vs Thor you're either arguing that Logan is galaxy level or that Thor isn't even shack level.

Aye, it's either that or PIS

When?

Okay...let me know when you find an actual argument for Thor not being faster than light.

Actually I don't think he's faster than light

@BlotskyA yeah all of that is PIS unless you can give at least 5 other MFTL feats for those characters. And DanCo did Thor struggle in speed training?

@Bane333 then you go against what the comics say and what the authors want.

Thor is so much faster than light.

Agreed. #WeWantTheTrueThor #WWTTT

We removed Odin Force, which he shouldn't have because that Thor has its own page

@DarkProdigy i think 31 is fine

Agree, and omnilingualism

He needs all of those.

@DarkProdigy can you add those powers to Thor

I added them and some others, not Darkforce Manipulation though.

Thank You.