Thor

"Experts" then.

That is surprising. Apart from @Dark_Wing I'm not sure who else knows Thor well enough and has the power.

Say that to Man-Thing, 71 🤷‍♂️

@Mr_Incognito Fate will be updated. Be patient please. Also, the number means very little. It can be bothersome but try your best to ignore it.

And... he's been updated to 100!

His speed durability and intelligence should all be 100. Other than that nice job.

That is because you're used to seeing his stats so low.

even higher lol

Or maybe it's the other way around

Thor is heavily overrated

He is overrated by some and underrated at the same time. I don't think so, because I saw that he had speed 90 and etc.

Thor is heavily overrated

i Agree Thor is too overrated

Agreed.

Okay. We get it, people. You all hate Thor. But let's try not to keep this comment section full of such statements.

Who knew Thor could be such a controversial character? Would you guys see me as a biased Thor supporter or hater?

Neither your not really biased to any charachter

Scarlet Witch

@Tyrannus It’s not the character, it’s the fans of the character. I’m sure you feel the same way about Batman or Saitama fans.

I changed it to 100, who-- oh my God.

I don't see his speed at 100.

Just updated it.

Thanks!

Oh I see. Thor's Mjolnir can fly Speed 100?

Who the--
hater.

Astral projection also. He's done it on multiple occasions

None of the powers got added :(

Everybody likes to low-ball Thor 🤷🏼‍♀️

Not really. People w*nk the crap out of him on this site.

Agreed with @Mr_Incognito

@Mr_Incognito Agreed.

Why you think that?

Thor is too fast but most of his speed comes from mjolnir almost ever

Alone, he moved 3 times faster the speed of light.

@Dusk_Pikachu Yeah, therefore I said ''ALMOST ever''

So? Thor doesn't use Godblast a lot. Does that mean he doesn't have it? He doesn't use magic a lot. Does that mean he doesn't have it?

But, I didn't understand what it meant. "-- -- comes from Mjolnir almost ever"? That line makes no sense. Closest meaning is he almost always uses Mjolnir as his main speed.

They're not similar.

Agree

?

I said I agree

I know. The question mark was because I didn't understand why you both thought he was "ewwww"

Because he stomps Scarlet Witch and they hate that fact.

No Wanda stomps him

Wanda is more unique and powerful.

I know how you could learn.

By reading all of Thor's comics starting from Journey into Mystery which has a bunch of minor villains but even those guys count.

And then see if you were wrong about Thor.

@mxy You do not read Marvel.

No. GL can't beat him with ease. You must not know that much about Thor. Thor=Superman in a fight. That means he would probably defeat GL 6/10.

Green lantern beats Thor hard fight

I think it is the other way around. But I agree that it is a hard fight.

Agreed.

Guys, Thor has matched Silver Surfer, Sentry, Hulk, Hela, Quicksilver, And numerous other quick people

All of that is either PIS or because Thor only uses a third of his power at MOST while in Earth.

That's an infinite multiverse of PIS! And the author of that book was likely drunk because he said a hypersonic Wolverine is faster than a MFTL+ god. If you want to use Wolverine vs Thor you're either arguing that Logan is galaxy level or that Thor isn't even shack level.

Aye, it's either that or PIS

When?

Okay...let me know when you find an actual argument for Thor not being faster than light.

Actually I don't think he's faster than light

@BlotskyA yeah all of that is PIS unless you can give at least 5 other MFTL feats for those characters. And DanCo did Thor struggle in speed training?

@Bane333 then you go against what the comics say and what the authors want.

Thor is so much faster than light.

Agreed. #WeWantTheTrueThor #WWTTT

We removed Odin Force, which he shouldn't have because that Thor has its own page

@DarkProdigy i think 31 is fine

Agree, and omnilingualism

He needs all of those.

@DarkProdigy can you add those powers to Thor

I added them and some others, not Darkforce Manipulation though.

Thank You.

@Sirspidey do you have a answer for this?

@Sirspidey come on bro I know you have seen this
Thor's "opposite" feats shown here are proof that Superman can defeat Thor

Oh no. The Thing knocked Thor out! Damn that's the lowest of the low

Ikr ! Thing is vastly weaker than Hulk , Superman and Goku

@MOP, relax and wait, from what I hear he is on Discord arguing with some dude about Thor V.S. Sentry so he hasn't had time to look for stuff on here, he'll see it just give it a minute.

Ok [takes deep breath] I'm calm now xD
But seriously what's your thoughts about these "opposite" feats

And most of those feats are outlier and one time feats anyway and high end feats for fodder tier characters. For example an AMPED Surfer defeating a Thor holding back, that's a one time thing and shouldn't be counted because Thor has defeated Surfer more than 50% of the time and during the Annihilation event Surfer got a huge power boost from Galactus himself and Thor casually took him out with no amps at all. Mantis, PIS for very obvious reasons, Thing knocking him out a very, very ,very high end feat for Thing because Thing has lost to a standard Hulk MANY times and Thor has beaten Hulk more than Hulk has beaten Thor so while they've traded wins, Thor comes out victorious most of the time. Beta Ray Bill makes sense because he is Thor's equal, Hercules defeated him in a wrestling match basically, if it was an actual fight and Thor was allowed his hammer it's a gg Red Skull clearly didn't do that with his own power alone because Red Skull get's slapped by Captain America every time and Captain America is street level so yeah that's a no contest, Adam Warlock has an infinity stone my guy, not fair for anybody. You only gave 15 instances of Thor losing and most of which I proved illogical to use just now and from what I can tell Thor has been around for 56 years and the fact you could only come up with a measly little 15, you realize you made Thor look even stronger right, I'm not even a Thor fan but come on @MOP using outlier easily debunkable feats to try and prove your point, really?

I'm not trying to be harsh, I'm trying to show you your mistakes so you can improve apon them, if an non Thor fan like myself can debunk them imagine a super fan like @Spidey.

True ...True
If we can't use High outlier feats for characters like thing etc How come Goku , Thor , Hulk , Superman etc etc are allowed their outlier feats
Reason I could only come up with 15 is three reasons
1. I'm not a Thor fan so I don't read most of his comics
2. I got half of them on a website
3. I only searched for like a half hour

And @Soul I would like to thank you for all the help you have given me . I am vastly better than I was 4 months ago

Well most good debaters don't use outlier feats at all, the feats commonly used for Thor, Goku, Super Man, etc. all those characters have show that level of power on a consistent bases. And none of Goku's feats are outlier feats (except stupid **** like getting hit by a bullet and it hurting him) because he is written by only ONE person which separates him from the others and he only has one continuity so all his feats can be used because all his feats are consistent. Superman has consistently shown being capable of defeating the other Justice League members regularly and has multiple consistant lifting feats and speed feats which is why the are NOT outlier feats. The very same can be said for Hulk, Thor and all those other folk.

Should I delete this before @Spidey sees?

And you're welcome, I like helping others improve that way I have more tough advisories, so again you're welcome, glad I could help.

You don't need to delete it, he'll see I debunked all of it and will be perfectly fine.

Wait... So you're fattening us up just to eat us? LOL
But fr You are one of the coolest members on this site . I would possibly still be at the bottom of the food chain if it wasn't for you
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P.s how was your Halloween?

Ok .
Also I just realized you and @Spidey haven't ever debated before . You think that's going to happen anytime soon ?

Thank You, I really do try, and I didn't do anything for Halloween but it's been pretty alright.

*Haven't debated

We have on "The End All be All" forum, but for the most part we agree on a lot of things, hard to debate with someone you agree with.

Yeah Thor is fodder

Periodt.

Period

Accurate list, but I don't know about zatanna

I know, but he doesn't have it on his powers list.