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Custom | Thor dose not have his hammer, both in character but going for the kill/KO, neither of them have any knowledge of the other, Random encounter in an open field, no prep |
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Also don't mean to interrupt but @MrJaeger, you seem to be bringing up a lot of things Thor might be superior in which don't really affect the fight (for ex. experience with weapons).
When did Sentry beat Thor still wanting to be beat? tf
And in regards to Hulk himself, he admitted to have always been holding back even in Worldbreaker form, right before he destroys the dark dimension in one hit. @dhruv @Tyrannus Any other instances?
The opposite is kind of true with Thor. Yes he holds back immensely too, but whenever he's fought Hulk he gets carried away which leads to collateral damage while Hulk ends up stopping the fight or leaving. Thor's pride on the other hand won't let him accept defeat.
"I..I can run the numbers. So I could see he was always pulling his punches, looking out for the little people." If your logic was true, he should have said "He was always pulling back his last punch to avoid killing everyone." But no amadeus said he pulled back his punches, and that counts for every punch, including his entire fight with black bolt, sentry, zom fused doctor strange and many others. And this scan I am using again
See what hulk says "Because if Banner loses all control.If the beast ever comes out and stays out..unleashing his own primal hatred...he could easily topple the planet off its foundation."
Banner always has to hold hulk back, if he loses control for even a millisecond, the planet would get destroyed. As hulk gets angrier, banner has to try harder to hold back hulk and that is why insanely angry versions of hulk have very high intelligence in them (wwh,wbh,hotm,ih) because of banner's best efforts to hold hulk back, and this leads to high presence of banner in hulk persona and gives him high intelligence. Thor has lost control several times against hulk, he gets carried off with his ego while hulk also tries to save people lives even when he is fighting someone. Thor when going into warrior madness, which odin has himself described when an asgardian has no control over himself was pretty easily handled by hulk. Just because hulk looks like a monster and goes on rampages and attacks teammates doesn't prove that he doesn't hold back. That's a common misconception among people, thinking since hulk is a monster and just wants to fight and smash things, why would he hold back?
@MrJaeger07 Even when Beyonder recognizes that the only finite thing inside the Hulk is Banner, he doesn't say because if not for Banner Hulk wouldn't hold back.
The Mighty Thor #385 and Incredible Hulk Annual 2001 showed Thor being the one who ends up endangering the civilians because he forgot about collateral damage. Both times Thor ends up reflecting that perhaps he judged the Hulk too quickly as it was himself who caused the damage not the "monster" himself who fled.
Thor himself has said he only holds back against mortals and that Hulk has always been far more.
Thor never beat Nul, he sent him away. He collapsed after.
This isn't a slight against Thor by the way. Hulk Annual 2001 is one of my favourite comics because it shows both characters very well in terms of power and personality.
1. Avengers # 3:
This is the first fight that took place where the Hulk ties Thor with a steel cable, Thor warns him that he could get out of it in no time, but the Hulk literally leaves on a train before Thor can, but then they meet, but the Hulk has Namor helping him and he throws Thor's hammer away from him, but Thor is released from the grip but the fight ends unexpectedly when the Hulk turns to Bruce Banner.
2. Journey into Mystery # 112:
This one retells the same story from a different perspective and reveals part of the fight that took place outside the panel, so in those early days Thor has to hold on to his hammer at all times and if he lets go for more than sixty seconds. lost his powers (silly weakness). But in this fight, he asks his father Odin if he could retain power even without his hammer, but both parties are equally strong, but the fight still ends without a clear victor.
3. Fantastic Four # 26:
I don't think I should tell it, although the Hulk mentions that Thor's hammer is one of the few things he fears and that's quite interesting, but Thor basically tries to hit the Hulk on the run and fails.
4. Submariner # 35:
The Hulk gets a slight advantage here by hitting Thor so hard that he drops his hammer (remember Thor loses power after dropping his hammer for 60 seconds) but Thor gets it back before time runs out and the fight stops. There's no winner
5. Defenders # 10:
Thor and Hulk are portrayed as apologies as equals in this fight, the pose on the cover of the comic keeps him for an hour (Hulk in theory became more and more enraged and they were equally matched in strength at all times ...)
This one is pretty brutal because the Hulk crushes Mjolnir with one hand and throws Thor like a rag doll, but it was all a dream so it doesn't count.
7. The Incredible Hulk # 255:
The Hulk and Thor appear to be fairly evenly matched again, but the fight ends when they break the sealing of a tunnel and Thor opts to save some nearby travelers, causing him to drop his hammer for too long and shut down and the Hulk doesn't seem to do it. Understand where Thor went.
8. The Incredible Hulk # 284:
The Avengers have been brainwashed and scattered over time. The Hulk goes to the Viking age to save Thor, but Thor thinks the Hulk is a demon and beats him up a bit before returning to normal. Again nothing definable.
9. The Incredible Hulk # 300:
A mystical villain has awakened pure savagery in the Hulk making him more destructive than ever and Thor intends to stop him, the fight gets quite messy with the Hulk even picking up an adamantium statue to defeat Thor, but the god of thunder is too fast and He hits the statue with his hammer almost deafening everyone in Central Park, the two are evenly matched until Dr. Strange appears and throws the Hulk into another dimension.
10. The mighty Thor # 385:
Thor seems to control the fight for the first half of the story, he hits the Hulk twice as many times as the Hulk hits him and even has the Hulk in one scene, the Hulk gets mad at the hammer and the Hulk threatens to kill him. When the woman makes Thor drop his hammer, Thor agrees and seems to fight much closer afterward, the advantage even shifting to the Hulk. The hammer returns to Thor unintentionally after a few minutes and the Hulk admits that he is afraid to fight Thor when he has it, Thor again throws his hammer and fights with his bare hands again, but the Hulk practically gives up. Here Thor's strength with the hammer is quite established and without it it is almost equal to that of The Hulk. Thor wins (fight for which I think even without hammer Thor is slightly superior to Hulk)
11. Infinity Crusade # 4:
So Thor brainwashed him and smashed 2 Quinjets with his hammer, endangering the lives of several heroes. Fortunately, the Hulk and Drax are there to stop him, but the Hulk cannot fly, so as soon as Thor damages his jetpack, he launches himself to Earth.
12. The mighty Thor # 489:
Thor is now the slave of Hella (Asgardian god of death), so when the Hulk wants to bring his friend back to the land of life, he has to drag him kicking and screaming. Throughout the fight, they both admit that they are stopping for various reasons, but in the end, hella only tells them to get lost as she found a better deal and fears that they will destroy the entire kingdom if the two of them continue. They reveal that that was the unspoken plan all along.
13. The Incredible Hulk # 440:
So this is weird, some of you might be familiar with the future imperfect story where a future version of the Hulk called Master became so powerful that he conquered the world, no I'm not covering that part because if you read the story it is revealed that Thor he actually died in a massive war before The Hulk kicked in and they never fought in that timeline. This comic highlights The Hulk because he starts to turn into that super powerful dictator version of himself and Thor sends him to oppose him on another fast side Thor has lost his powers around this time, but recently got them back for this specific fight and he's not unsure if he's weaker or equal, but the fight between the two was so intense that the avengers and the U.S. military can see from far, far away through advanced video feed radar and seismographs, eventually Thor gets so into the fight that he flies into Warrior Insanity (a mentality that he can get in, multiplying his strength and speed by 10) after seeing the insanity that the US government decides that Both Hulk and Thor are too big of a threat to put up with, so they drop a super nuke, but the Hulk sees the nuke coming and throws Thor out of the line of fire to save his life.
This is a short story that shows the Hulk defeating a practical army of enemies, including Thor, but it is revealed to be a dream that Dr. Strange put him in to help him let go of his aggression.
15. Wild Hulk: Vision-Quest:
This is a pretty short fight, Thor clearly doesn't want to fight, but Hulk throws some punches and rocks at Thor, knocks Hulk off a cliff destroying the cliff, and Iron Man flies to break things.
16. Heroes Reborn: The Return:
This battle is impossible to judge as all we see is a panel where the Hulk hit him with Thor and The Thing and then shows that the Hulk just escaped.
17. Avengers # 5:
This one begins with the Hulk taking advantage. Punch Thor on the butt and try to push his hammer away, then Thor takes advantage of his advantage that appears to knock the Hulk down with a powerful thunder strike, but in the end it is Hulk victorious over the unconscious Thor, but it was later revealed that this Thor was fake and also the Thor from the last comic.
18. The Incredible Hulk Annual 2001:
The Hulk and Thor trade a few blows before Thor decides that Earth is too fragile and takes their fight to another universe where the Hulk throws him off a mountain. Thor comes out of the rubble and resumes his fight, but it turns out that this dimension is also breakable and Thor doesn't like to cause wildfires. The Hulk decides to lash out at Thor while Thor turns his back on him, but Thor knocks out the Hulk with a thunderclap and prepares to carry the unconscious Hulk back home, but The Hulk wakes up during the return trip and lets go of his arm. of Thor throwing himself towards a planet with an atmosphere that hits the Hulk again and turns him into Bruce Banner. Thor decides to try again, but the Hulk wakes up again and knocks Thor to the ground and knocks him to the ground. Hulk is about to leave, but Thor is not KO, he's just stunned. Thor gets up and washes the Hulk with a flood. Hulk comes out but basically escapes at this point. Thor took the time to take the Hulk to different dimensions and also put out fires even hit the Hulk. Thor wins.
19. The mighty Thor # 73:
Thor has taken over the world and merged the culture, science, traditions, and people of Asgard with those of Earth. Several big-name heroes aren't happy about it, so they band together and decide to take the fight to Thor, but he beats them all. There is a brief moment where Dr. Strange strips Thor of the Odinforce, making him temporarily vulnerable and allowing The Hulk and The Thing to take some photos of him, but he kills them both. Thor wins.
20. Onslaught Reborn # 2 and # 3:
Onslaught has taken over Thor's body and decides that he has to kill the Hulk to cement his reign, beating the Hulk a bit and almost frying him with a thunderclap. When he is about to deliver the final blow, he realizes that he cannot lift the hammer, while distracted, the Hulk awakens but the attack jumps to the Hulks body. He then picks up Thor very confused and literally knocks him to the moon. But then it turned out to be the same fake Thor.
This one has a very short duration with Thor hitting the Hulk in the face 3-4 times before giving in pain. Thor thinks the fight is over but the Hulk surprises him by throwing himself back and grabbing Thor's hand and hitting the hammer in Thor's face several times, Thor didn't see it coming. Hulk wins
22. Avengers vs Atlas # 3:
The Hulk is angry and wants to crush the Avengers, Thor and the rest of the team are completely off guard, but as soon as Thor gets into the game he throws everyone to a safer battle location only for the Hulk to punch him in the face. as soon as they land. But so many Avengers fight alongside Thor and later a mermaid named Siren sings a soothing tune that turns the Hulk into Bruce Banner.
23. Breaking into The Marvel Way: Thor: Hammer and Sinew comics:
This one is really short, but in this story Thor and his Asgardian friends briefly discuss a recent unseen battle in which Thor lost his cool and nearly killed the Hulk. Hulk seemed totally wrecked at that. Thor wins (it seems that here Hulk did not know how to carry the Warrior Madness very well, right?)
24. Fear Itself # 5:
The Hulk and The Thing have been possessed by a pair of Asgardian gods who have a real problem with Thor, making both characters more powerful than ever. Thor takes care of The Thing fast enough, but does a few rounds with the Hulk. Then Thor uses a massive Thunder Strike that destroys everything around him, including the Hulk being thrown into space. Thor wins.
25. Hulk Smash Avengers # 1:
The Avengers track down the Hulk after he's been insane for a while (clearly he wasn't holding back this time). Thor along with other avengers tries to contain him, but he breaks free and escapes.
26. Avengers Assemble # 4:
Thor is about to make the first confrontation with Thanos when the Hulk suddenly grabs his hand to stop the attack. Thor looks at him confused and the Hulk smashes him to the ground with Thor's hammer rendering him unconscious for a moment. Thanos had taken control of the Hulk. Hulk wins.
27. Avengers # 1:
Another super villain takes control of the Hulk's mind and tells him to attack Thor. And that's no idea what happens after that.
28. Hulk # 9:
In this issue there is a segment in which the Master (Evil Hulk From Future) appears again. He punches every known Hero, including Thor, who later turns out to be a dream.
29. Avengers # 27:
So this fight takes place in an alternate reality where the Hulk appears and starts a fight with the regular Avengers, he takes a pretty good hit on Thor before Thor jumps in to give him a well-deserved reward, but Aim is watching from a distance. and capture everyone in temporary armor.
The above officially explains every Thor vs Hulk fight in canon where Thor won 5 times and Hulk won 2 breaks were not applicable.
Regardless of which hero you technically choose, Thor must always win, as he's much faster than the Hulk, he is generally much smarter than the Hulk, Mjolnir is basically an unbreakable knife filled with magic.
Of the previous non-Canon fights, Thor won 7 times and Hulk won 5 times, the rest were not applicable.
Result: Thor: 12 and Hulk: 7
Conclusion: Thor was quite even on many occasions against Hulk EVEN WITHOUT HAVING HIS HAMMER so, considering that these two are equal in strength but Thor is faster, powerful and intelligent, Thor would also win (in my opinion according to the mega analysis that I just did). I hope you guys read and don't take all this effort on my part lightly
Also BFR doesn't count.
And don't you think that, if the opponent takes you off the battlefield and you are not able to return back (BFR), it still counts as a victory? I know it sounds a bit unfair because you don't know how much more the rival could give and it's not that I say that as Nightwing is capable of teleporting Thing out of the battlefield it already means he's stronger but that would already be out of context XD, it would also be pretty boring that the only ways to defeat someone are knocking them out or killing them (in my opinion), not to mention that thor before that one-shotted Angrir and had a fairly even match with Nul and thanks to his hax he was able to send him away with his pure collateral damage so don't think that was BFR at all dude
The website from which you looked up this might have copied the info from this video, since exactly what he says word by word was in your answer, maybe the person who made the video copied from the website, but that is unlikely otherwise most would have said that in the comments section. Now, I won't object your opinion ,if you think what he says about the battles was true,then who am I to tell you what's right or wrong, in my opinion, yes, he was biased to thor, Fear Itself was not a win for thor, nor was The Mighty Thor 385, nor Incredible Hulk Annual 2001. I can make arguments, only if you want.
I agree that The Mighty Thor #385 wasn't a victory for Thor, but neither was it for the Hulk since Thor never stayed on the ground and sent Hulk away with Mjolnir, Hulk maybe hit more times but that's not what matters most, since despite that Thor also gave some good blows (without his hammer), but although it seemed that in some moments the Hulk won Thor simply continued fighting and at the end he ended up with some injuries and Hulk not due to the accelerated regeneration factor that Hulk has, which in theory healed his wounds faster, which would be completely logical, so I would leave this more in a draw.
Fear itself definitely counts and please don't continue arguing against this by saying that it was BFR, when clearly Nul was left unconscious in space and that also counts as a victory, if you look closely at the vignette of the drawing on that page you can see how Nul has his eyes closed and apparently does not say anything more, not to mention that before Thor was fighting at the same time against Angrir and that made things even more difficult for him, there is no other way to interpret it unless you are clearly against Thor.
And whether or not you count Incredible Hulk annual as Thor's victory, he would continue to have more victories in total, so I wouldn't mind leaving this part aside as long as it's in a draw since that battle clearly none won and they preferred to save civilians rather.
Like @Dhruv said, they made unfair passements in Thor's favour. Hulk performed much better in Thor #385 but as Thor was still standing I can accept it as a draw.
Fear Itself was defiantly not a victory, it was BFR. Nul was completely fine as he begins to speak again mid flight and continues his rampage in Dracula's domain. Thor admits he could never beat Hulk.
Incredible Hulk Annual was a clear draw. Both got knock downs on each other and the writer considered it a draw.
In HLTBB Thor wasn't trying to hurt Hulk with that, merely get his attention which is why the bolt did nothing. Notice Thor instantly tells Hulk to surrender rather than vaporizing him because he doesn't even want to fight him in the first place. He says "again I say to you surrender" because he told him to surrender beforehand and Hulk didn't hear it over the explosions and people screaming so Thor had to gently tap him. Saying that contradicts Hulk Annual 2001 is like saying my 6 pound puppy can survive my angriest punchers unharmed because I can gently tap her on the back and that doesn't do any harm. I've told you all this before, not sure why you're living in the Denial River.
But if you want to go down that road then Hulk's win in 2001 and AA 2012 was also fair then right because it doesn't affect durability. Obviously you'll deny it though because you have different rules for Hulk and Thor.
Wrong. If he wanted to get his attention he just needed to call out to Hulk like anyone else would. Striking him with lightening was an attack. Stop making excuses.
Lmao "gently tap him". Yeah and then Hulk "gently taps" Thor away with his own hammer so he can get away.
Thor stated he went all out and became blinded to win against hulk.
In Incredible Hulk Annual 26 thor put the humans in danger while hulk saved them. In the end, thor realises his mistake.
Unless him going all out would destroy the planet they're fighting on (which Thor and Hulk are strong enough to easily do). Remember Thor doesn't just suppress himself because he doesn't want to decimate his friend with a GodBlast, he also suppresses himself because 1: he doesn't want to lose control in Warriors Madness 2: he wants to limit the collateral damage 3: he prefers to take the time to enjoy fights rather than ending them quickly. Understand?
"He gone savage against Beta Ray Bill (for a weapon)"
What? You're going to have to use better grammar my friend.
"He didn't hold back in fear itself too."
Yuh, and that Hulk (also known as Nul the Breaker of Worlds) gave Thor injuries that even Odin couldn't fully heal while forcing Thor to say this. Oh and Thor had Mjolnir during that fight so it's completely irrelevant to this debate.