Wonder WomanvsThor

Thor What feats?

Wonder Woman Defeated True Form Nemesis a being more powerful than True Form Ares who scales to Highfather (Highfather has matched Darkseid), Defeats Nekron with the help of witch fire Nekron is an embodiment of Death in DC, She's beaten Zoom who has defeated Wally West Flash, beaten an Avatar of Ares (even Avatars scales to universal+), She shook the infinite heavens with her fight with Superman, she has taken attacks from the Quantum Zealot, Hurt a shattered God that can destroy and restart creation in a single move, evenly matched Superman (Batman states she's the only one that could fight an angry Supes), She has kept up with Flash and entered the Speed force under her own speed and matched Ares in speed who has at full power has the speed of Hermes, and she consistently beats Supergirl Who scales to Superman.

Thor They are actually close in speed. Thor is stronger and more experienced.

not voted Claiming others are wrong and then making nothing but wrong statements is great...

1. Traveling fast doesn't makes him as fast in combat, and it is absolutely not debatable that Wonder Woman is faster than Thor in combat.

2. Silver Surfer is much faster than Thor as well at his best so that is a moot point, and by the same token has Wonder Woman beaten Zoom in a fight who is much faster than Silver Surfer and Thor together.

3. Thor has barely more experince, has not the same abilities and can absolutely not counter everything she can do in vastly more powerful, and Wonder Woman has by the same token fought and beaten several opponents much stronger and faster than him.

All i've read was headcanon about why Thor would win and ignorance about Wonder Woman, because you obviously wanted him to win without making an actually neutral analysis and i very much doubt you even could.

Thor Was anything I said really wrong? I only stated that Wonder Woman's greater speed was debatable, as Thor has beaten faster opponents due to the great traveling speed of his hammer. You yourself said 'Thor only has barely more experience,' which basically is agreeing that Thor has more experience, even if it is slight. As for Silver Surfer being faster than Thor, you are right, but the whole point was that he was faster. You claim my statements are wrong, yet the only debatable thing I mentioned was about speed. Literally your entire argument was about speed! Except for experience, but you did basically admit Thor was more experienced.
All I read was a few points inflating a small imperfect word choice.

not voted Is this site full of Thor fanboys?

Thor Yes, a lot of Thor fanboys.

Thor @TheOneBetweenAll You always this cancerous?

Thor Yeah, I think so. I've found him bashing comments that have accurate points, evidence and good reasoning and blaming people of being biased Thor fanboys. I saw him do similar on some other battles.

not voted Yep, plenty of them.

Wonder Woman The point is that he doesn't read the comics , so he isn't aware that is a difference between both of them , which is clearly showed in Thor vs Wolverine.

not voted I'm confused, this is just my opinion

Thor What the he'l are you talking about Bernardo? I do know the difference but I also know the FACT that reaction speed is ALWAYS above travel speed! Think if Silver Surfer was faster than his own reaction speed then he'll always run into planets and stars because he literally wouldn't see it coming. And that Logan vs Thor thing is PIS unless you can prove otherwise.

Thor You do realize that's PIS, right? If you want to use that then we can also use the time when Deathstroke could keep up with Wonder Woman in a strictly melee fight.

Thor Deathstroke is way more powerfull then wolverine

not voted @Dark_wing Are mongoose and spider-man PIS too?

Thor @Mr_Incogito: aye...unless you can find 5 other feats in his 70 year long history of him being that slow.

not voted @Dark_Wing Well that's three examples right there... makes me wonder a bit.

Thor @Mr_Incognito: when were Spider-Man and Mongoose faster than Thor?

not voted @Dark_Wing They've both blitzed him before. He just has slower reaction times in my opinion.

Thor In which comics?

not voted @Dark_Wing
Mongoose: The Mighty Thor #391
Spider-man: Thor Issue #448

Thor I'll check those out since I feel like there's context involved, if there isn't then it's PIS; Thor has severely MFTL feats do I need to bring them up? Meanwhile all you can find is 3 Anti feats.

Wonder Woman Did you at least read this time both books ???? Seems that you didn't because the only time deathstroke was able to hit Wonder Woman was when she took her surprised , when she didn't expected . Way different from what happened between Thor and wolverine. I would like to hear why and what you mean with pis , explaining the purpose.

not voted @Dark_Wing Well you're talking about travel speed while i'm talking about reaction speed. Two different things. I know Thor is fast, just wanted to bring those scans up. Kinda torn on this fight anyway.

It seems a bit dishonest to just sweep three reaction feats under the rug as PIS. Three occurrences is one too many. Normally PIS occurs once.

Thor For that first one: that's not Odinson, it's Eric Masterson
For the second one: that's PIS

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If you don't want to call out PIS then we can use Thor always holding back while on Earth, In Thor #3 by J Michael Straczynski where he told Ironman just that and the Iron Avenger didn't even bother questioning it because he knew it was true. Yeah that's right, TONY STARK knew Thor was telling the truth, that he only used a third of his power while on Earth! Reaction speed must always be equal if not above travel speed think if Silver Surfer was faster than his own reaction speed then he'll always run into planets and stars because he literally wouldn't see it coming And no, PIS can happen more than three times, heck I usually ask for five anti feats before we can debate it's valid. If you want to use these then we can also use Wonder Woman being matched by Deathstroke and being unable to dodge a bullet fires at her. Next.

not voted Well the instance with Deathstroke only happened once as opposed to 2-3 times for Thor, so... Regardless if we accept the Deathstroke fight or not Thor has more slow reaction scans. You also have to take Thor at his word he's holding back. Let's agree to disagree.

Thor You're ignoring the time she wasn't fast enough to stop a mere bullet https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5408454e836770919aa98ff2a07ead33. Again the Wolverine vs Thor one is the biggest offense of the bunch, the holding back thing was meant to justify him being slower than Mongoose and Spider-Man. Though I do agree with you, agree to disagree then.

Wonder Woman @Wing, Not saying Thor is slow but can he react to billions of shards moving at billions time the speed of light? React to someone not only moving faster in speed but also in time, React to speedsters able to move across the entire universe in a day? React to Flash slowing down time? Etc. Now Thor is physically stronger but WW is faster. At least in my honest opinion.

Thor He'l yeah he can! Crossing universes in a day is fodder to the Silver Surfer who can do it in mere hours (days >>> hours). The godshard feat (which you've probably got from ScrewAttack) is not Quantifiable and it's fodder and it's outshined by Thor who can react to telepathic attacks which move at the speed of THOUGHT while he himself was dazed! And that Zoom thing was not her speed, she predicted where he'll be and caught him with the lasso; don't mind ScrewAttack, there almost as bad as Akhil is with Star Wars related content (no offense). Though I do agree Diana is faster than Thor, just not so fast Thor couldn't keep up.

Wonder Woman I didn't say cross, I said the entire universe. Every square inch. Also, the godshard feat... Billions of shards moving from the edges of the universe coming in at mere seconds. So let's low ball that to one billion shards moving all the way at the edge of the DC universe (Which has been proven to be infinite, watch WebCamParrot's DC Cosmology) but we'll just go with the 200 trillion light years across. One shard would be moving at around 423 Octillion miles per hour. Now let's assume they all came at the same time. She would have to of moved at 423,251,986,399,427,385,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per hour OR 631,138,519,168,484,277,000,000,000,000 times the speed of light. "Generally speaking, the speed of thought is a real concept in the Marvel Universe to the same extent it is in the real world Speed of Nerve Impulses. To put it simply the speed of thought depends on how fast your neurons can communicate. In 'real life' this is anywhere from 2 mph to 200 mph." Information travels at different speeds within different types of neurons (nerve cells). Signals can travel as slow as about 1 mph or as fast as about 268 mph. I don't know why everyone thinks the speed of thought is impressive, I don't wanna debate just needed to point out some flaws.

Thor Actually you said the fallowing "React to speedsters able to move across the entire universe in a day." Next. Okay, if you're trying to imply she has infinite speed (which is an outlier unless you have five other examples from her 80 year history of her being that fast) then we can use Thor's immeasurable outliers like his hammer being stated to transcend time (ask @ClintBarton for the scan) and how he's been able to fight on par with enemies like Hulk, Sentry, Hercules, and Silver Surfer who can dodge it. I am not watching a full length YouTube video for how your favorite universe is infinite so either prove the fact yourself or yield. WoW you're trying to lowball the speed of thought using real world physics! If you do that then I can also say the universe is only 13 billion light years across and since going faster than light world require infinite energy them those shards are only going at 20 MPH (this is just a troll). According to the Leader (a Hulk villain) the speed of thought is infinite https://imgflip.com/i/3j92yf. And people know it's impressive because they aren't deluded enough to use real world logic for FICTIONAL characters.

Wonder Woman I'm sorry that was my bad, No I wasn't trying to prove Wonder Woman has infinite speed. That would be ridiculous. But.... if you need proof, A friend of mine gave me some scans.
The regular universe in DC is undoubtedly larger than the observable universe.
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Even using just finite statements talking about the birth of the universe the regular universe expanded 60 trillion light-years of space and time
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There was once a man who took Superman 100 trillion light-years away from Earth and the Earth is in the center of the universe, so a finite low-ball would make the universe 200 trillion light-years
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1. She's tagged and struck Superman and Flash, Superman broke out of being frozen in time and Flash can simply time travel.

2. Has intercepted Omega Beams, which Superman and The Flash have trouble outpacing (If you use Batman dodging them I swear to God)

3 She was approaching the Speed Force and lassoed Jesse Quick, who was also about to enter the Speed Force

4. Batman states her reaction time is faster than Superman's, Superman has reacting to time slowing down if I can recall correctly.

5. MMH States she could be just as fast as The Flash.

Can I have 5 other scans showing that The Speed of Thought is Infinite?

Thor I thought you said you didn't want to debate?...

Good, I just want you to know I also don't think Thor has infinite speed either, nor do I think he's above time.

Now let's break down those non working links of yours

1: how dose this explain anything?

2: any proof that "endless reaches" is literal? It sounds like it's just being used As a poetic term. Think several heroes have not only flown to the edge of the universe but they flew to the Source Wall... do they all have infinite speed?

3: how dose this prove it's infinite? Heck all it dose is kill your argument that DC has an infinite multiverse by saying there are 52 earths.

4: (see point 2)

5: that link doesn't send me anywhere...

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And since you just sent statements of it being finite, you've kinda killed your own argument...

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Now let's break down your feats

1: in which comic? And if you try to use time travel as a speed feat i swear to the Allfather.

2: so she's Batman level in her reaction speed https://youtu.be/gNBTdLXk9JM? JK. Diana is more consistently equal if not beneath both Superman and the Flash so this is a very inconsistent thing. Also I've never once seen you clarify how fast those omega beams are.

3: you mean that feat that only requires you to be moving at the speed of light? And just because she was "ABOUT" to enter the Speed Force dose not mean she was moving fast enough to do so.

4 and 5: all you have are hyperbolic statements? Again she's more consistently beneath both of them.

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Why the he'l you need five statements? This was a matter that was only brought up once throughout Marvel's history, if you don't like it then prove it's not infinite through feats, statements, and scaling. Inb4 you claim "aNy pRoOf tHiS iS lItTeRaL" dose that statement even sound like a Poetic term? Yours on the other hand are more than likely just poetic terms. And in that issue Leader wants to send Hulk to a planet that a traveler couldn't reach in a LIFETIME because it was just that far away, so yeah that point still stands...

Wonder Woman OMFG I FREAKING WROTE AN ENTIRE FREAKING PARAGRAPH AND I ACCIDENTALLY CLOSED THE WRONG FREAKING TAB. I'm not doing that again, UGH I AM SO FREAKING MAD!!!

Thor So what dose that mean?...

Wonder Woman It means I am done, I spent 2-3 hours of research just to have it deleted!

Thor I'll proudly except another forfeit :D :)

not voted That is a stupid comment, and you are definitely a Thor fanboy.

Thor @TheOneBetweenAll you again? I myself agree that BlotskyA rarely uses evidence and Sentry vs Daredevil is a bad matchup, but calling him straight up stupid? That's kind of rude, among many other rude things you've said on this forum. If you're gonna be rude, leave and come back with evidence, and not shouting around rude comments.

not voted Thor faster than Wonder Woman, do people on this site even read comics?

Thor I didn't say agile, I said faster, which means traveling speed. In some fights, traveling speed doesn't matter, but considering that Thor could speedblizt her as he hit Silver Surfer, who is faster.
All I've seen you do is go around and call people Thor fanboys and try to bash our answers that provide evidence, claiming that we don't read comics (which we have) and providing no to little evidence on how WW would win.
Great job.

Thor Nope. ;-)

not voted A little contradictory

Thor @andiamironman You are immeasurably right.

not voted Neither claps, but Thor definitely isn't fast enough to win.

Thor Thor will bash in Diana's insides with Mjolnir.

Wonder Woman She is better fighter than Thor ,she will get chance to cut Thor into half

Thor He can block those. It is a close fight, but I think Thor wins because he is stronger and more durable. They are pretty even, but I think Thor wins.

Wonder Woman Yaa Thor can win this so as WW
WW is fast in combat her weapon can definitely give edge

not voted This site seems to be full of idiotic Thor fanboys who don't even read comics, and you are definitely on of them.

Thor Would you like to now provided evidence why Wonder Woman defeats Thor when she's consistently not even Star levels of destructive capability, while Thor is galactic consistently, perhaps multi-galactic.

Thor @Nightshade_ Are you really gonna use that outdated meme?

Wonder Woman Yeah no it isn't

Thor Yeah, but not Thor's cheeks. The only cheeks she'll be clapping are her own after Thor hands 'em to her.

Wonder Woman Lmao

Thor to be honest I Don't how this is even a Fight

Thor Yeah











But Thor has a really cool hammer ;_;

Thor Thor can lift 20 planets with one arm,so i don't give a damn about Wonder-Woman strength. Also Thor is capable of fighting with Silver Surfer who is faster than light and he can cross galaxies in seconds. And the most important thing,GodBlast who is so powerful that he hurt Galactus badly.

Thor Whose ***** is downvoting this ? Come and debate if you want

not voted Almost every single word you wrote is bullshit(but this whole thread is anyways more full of bullshit than any youtube comment section), that is why nobody wants to debate you.
To make the ridiculous claim that Wonder Woman would be just half the speed of light and Thor of all characters double as fast as her, is pretty much the equilant of saying that Hulk just can lift 100 tons and Namor is double as strong as him...

Thor @TheOneBetweenAll I'm not impressed. The Thor-supporters have all provided reasonable evidence, and you provide 'facts' or contradictions on another topic to try and bash us. If you disagree, come withe evidence. It is true that Thor has beaten Silver Surfer.
I wouldn't be surprised if you tried to contradict that.

Thor Stormbreaker is Beta Ray Bill's weapon.

Wonder Woman When you only watch mcu and know nothing about comics

Thor In the comics Thor's axe is called Ultimate Mjolnir not Stormbreaker.

Thor Wonder Woman is a little faster, but Thor would still win.

Thor "A little faster" she's much faster than Odinson as shown when she tags speedsters and reacts to omega beams, but that and superior technique are her only real advantages.

Thor @Dark was that omega beams as fast as SS?

Thor If they can tag the Flash and Pre Crisis Superman, then they're probably a bit faster than Silver Surfer.

Thor I don't know pre crisis supes well, but SS crosses galaxies in very little time

Thor Pre Crisis Superman has immeasurable speed (immeasurable speed is when you're so fast that you're not even bound by the laws of time)https://imgur.com/eWktZhG

Thor No way Wonder Woman is just normal level Asguardian. She has fought and defeated gods,her power level is almost as high as Superman and she was the god of war for a time. Please do some more research. I agree Thor wins but you are massively underestimating Wonder Woman.

Thor No way Wonser Woman is just normal asgardian. She's way faster than Thor,she is also a better fighter than Thor. Like I said Thor wins. Because of his greater Strength,durability and a more diverse power set. But it's far from a stomp from Thor.

Thor Let me fix that.Thor > Superman => Shazam > Wonder Woman >>> >>> >>>> Captain Marvel.

Thor Superman > Captain Marvel (DC) > Thor > Captain Marvel (Marvel) > Wonder Woman

Thor It's actually Shazam > Superman > Thor > WW > CM

Thor @akephalos how is Superman stronger than Shazam?

Thor Actually it's Shazam=Superman>Thor>Wonder Woman>Captain Marvel. Captian Marvel isn't even on the level of everyone else.
Edit Shazam=Superman=Thor>Wonder Woman>Captain Marvel

not voted I love it if people who don't read comics talk about characters they don't know, Billy was never more powerful than Wonder Woman at all, they were literally almost equally empowered in Post Crisis but he had no gear and was a worse fighter.
He is most of the time less powerful than Superman by feats, and neither Thor nor Hulk are more powerful than Wonder Woman.

But this site is apparently anyways just beyond good and evil.

Thor Actually Thor has been fighting for much longer than Diana has. Thor is not immortal, he has been killed on multiple occasions. Diana's The better fighter as Batman himself Ranks her aa one of the best fighters, Doomsday isn't and when she goes up against other gods, she usually has blessings and a magic sword neither of which are part of her normal arsenal. She has beaten Doomsday in the comics, bty DCEU Doomsday is weak and he would most certainly not give Thor a problem.

Thor Uh...no. Thor is 1500 years old, much older and more experienced than Diana, although she may be more skilled. He will still win.

Thor Wondy is more skilled...but experienced? No. You're very wrong there. Thor has been around for 1500 years.

Thor Thor has tagged and defeated Silver Surfer Who can cross galaxies in seconds.

Thor WRONH

Wonder Woman I whish I could agree with you

Thor @EmptyHand I don't.

Thor Death battle sucks

Thor @Kluba577 you don't know anything

Thor @Kluba is long gone and was dumb as a stump.

Thor I am glad that he's gone

Thor I am too; I kinda wish he'd come back so I can slap him again.

Wonder Woman Yep, so vote thor

Wonder Woman I love SA battle so much because i can drink more salty water from butthurt Thor fanboys. Yummy. Too tasty

Thor @BayonettaFan Debunked. Yummy your tears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R14DxF35_A

Wonder Woman @Dark_wing screwattacks video was stupid AF. At the end Thor smashes Diana like 50 times in the head. And then she apparently stabs him once and then KO. No Thor hands down takes the win

Thor Debunked big time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R14DxF35_A

Wonder Woman I have read both comics and to me is stalemate

Thor They do not have similar feats, Wonder Woman's feats are obsolete next to Thor's feats, when Wonder Woman defeats a Silver Surfer level being, four times let me know, when Wonder Woman constantly ties with Hulk level beings, let me know, also, I know Wonder Woman has never beaten anyone close to Hulk's level.

Thor has pushed the World Engine, which holds an infinite number of realms, which were all stated to be universes, which far surpasses Wonder Woman lifting Spectre, because Eternity, is a measure of time, not weight, so her feat was meaningless, Thor has far more weapons than anything Diana has, also, these days he has like twenty hamemrs, lol! That's not even mentioning Jyarnborn, his swords, etc.

Wonder Woman never has fought a Hulk, Silver Surfer, Galactus, Nova, Sentry level beings, Superman consistently bodies her, she only beat him once due to him being mind controlled as well as PIS.

I don't know why the last comment was even relevant, but yes, Death battle is very biased and not great at debating or scaling.

Thor The Death Battle Thor vs Wonder Woman has been debunked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R14DxF35_A

Thor @Dark_wing Same.

Wonder Woman And she is goddess of truth + truly immortal

Thor She has been killed before, how is she immortal? LOL! Also, Thunder > Telling the truth! You're funny man. XD

Wonder Woman Thor also was killed b4. So what is your point

Wonder Woman Btw Braselet off mode >>>> Warrior Madness

Thor My point never was Thro is Immortal, I was refuting your idiotic claim that Wonder Woman is immortal, how could she be if she's died before? Lol, nice try son, also, saying something doesn't make it true.

Base Thor's feats are far superior to anything Wonder Woman has ever done, son.

Thor Thor is actually immortal. He hung himself on a branch of Yggdrasil to achieve the magic of the Runes. Once he died and was approached by Hela, Thor summoned Odin soul who carried Thor away from Hela and was reborn. So Thor effectively transcended the death of an Asgardian, bound to be claimed by the Goddess of Death Hela.

Thor Thor is actually immortal. He hung himself on a branch of Yggdrasil to achieve the magic of the Runes. Once he died and was approached by Hela, Thor summoned Odin soul who carried Thor away from Hela and was reborn. So Thor effectively transcended the death of an Asgardian, bound to be claimed by the Goddess of Death Hela.

Wonder Woman crossover is not cannon but i agree.

Thor Your best argument is ____ wins because she's a female!

That's pathetic and annoying, If you're going to make those comments, **** off, this is a debating site, not a site for gender studies (Which isn't a real course)

Thor Apparently P.i.s.s is a swear word now?

Wonder Woman You're a hypocrite now. It's okay for you to say someone wins due to being male, and when I say someone wins due to being female (and I was clearly joking, even though Wonder Woman beats Thor), it's a crime. That doesn't make any sense.

Thor I'm being a hypocrite? No I've never said that, all I ever said was males are statistically and factually more powerful than females, that is FACT! Males on average have 50% more upper body strength than females.

Also you have no proof to suggest that a Multi Galactic - Universal level opponent, maybe Universal+ ON THE BEST DAY OF HER LIFE can beat a high Multiversal being.

Thor Also this isn't about me, this is about YOU.

Wonder Woman This is fiction, not real life. In fiction...
Strongest mutant - Female
Most Powerful Avenger - Female
Mutant Messiah - Female
Most Powerful Telepath (Marvel) - Female
Literal God (DC) - Female
etc.
Gender literally has nothing to do with this.
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Wonder Woman is smarter, better fighter, faster and stronger than Thor, so she does win.

Thor @soratoumiga You didn't seriously vote for WW because she's female did you? Come on now

Wonder Woman @Rizzo, Nah, I didn't vote because of that, but as you can see, it triggers people, for some reason. I voted for her because I think she would win, not easily though.

Thor People can take it the wrong way, that's all

Thor Brooo stoop! Human biology remains the same in DC Comics! That's why men are almost always coming out on top.

Strongest Mutant - Apocalypse, male, The Phoenix Force is a cosmic entity that takes control of a host, it is genderless, males have been the Phoenix too, so the strongest mutant is Apocalypse.

Most Powerful Avenger - Hulk

Second Most Powerful Avenger - Thor

Mutant Messiah - Stop being cringy

Most Powerful Telepath (Marvel) - Nate Grey

Literal God (DC) - Male for far longer than it's been female, also the Over Monitor is more powerful

Strongest X-Man - Male

Strongest Member of The Fantastic 4 - Male

Strongest Street Leveler - Male

Strongest Soldier - Male

Strongest Member of the JLA - Male

You're wrong Sora, you're mind is just polluted with feminist lies, you can seek treatment, Wonder Woman is not smarter, Greek Gods are violent and are all imbeciles, Norse Gods are above them in terms of intelligence, Thor is smarter, Thor has trained for many more thousands of years and is far superior of a fighter, Thor is multiversal bare minimum, Wonder Woman is Universal+ AT HER BEST.

Sora you are the worst debater on this site, Jon is honestly twice as good as you are, you haven't said anything logical thus far, you're a half wit and most likely a dork, who knows nothing and I really mean NOTHING about comic books, go home and give up, you haven't, and NEVER WILL beat me in a debate, go play with Akhill, at least he can admit when he's wrong and acknowledges the superior debater, I respect him.

Thor @Nemian actually strongest mutant is franklin richards i believe or even vulcan, apocalypse is close but not there, also quit being a keyboard warrior, especially if you dont know your comics that is, :)

Thor we can debate apocalypse vs franklin or vulcan if you choose to, or possibly tally a vote here on trusty ol shdb lol

Thor Keyboard Warrior - A person who makes abusive or aggressive posts on the Internet, typically one who conceals their true identity.a person who makes abusive or aggressive posts on the Internet, typically one who conceals their true identity.

So apparently I conceal my identity even though I've made it public and even shown what I look like and where I live? Bro, you're losing the fight you picked already and I haven't even responded, you less than average intellect fool! Kris, you are no one on this site, how dare you tell me I know nothing about comics when I've read ten times the comic books that you and Sora have read COMBINED? Look Kris, I know you got a ******* for me and that's why you're on my profile 24/7 trying to see where I comment so you can stalk me and make a smart alec comment, but son it could get very bad for you picking a fight with a moderator, it's none of your business what I say to Sora, so keep following me around and sticking your nose in stuff that isn't your business and there'll be repercussions, your whole comment is just a bunch of uneducated lies.

Franklin Richards is not STRONGER than Apocalypse, SURE! He's more powerful, but not physically stronger, don't you think I knew Franklin was more powerful?

Thor And no I only debate with people who have these three requirements.

1. They have a Profile Picture

2. They've made a name for themselves on this site.

3. They actually know something about comic books

You fit none of these requirements, sorry, I decline!

Wonder Woman @Kris don't feel bad bro . I haven't read a lot of comics in awhile and I'm top 15 for debating maybe top 10
You'll make your mark somehow bro just don't try and force your way . Mods like Me and Nemian have some Experience while your fairly new to this

Thor It's okay I'm not mad at kris, he's doing what I did when I started on this site, find the biggest and baddest and confront them, except kris isn't me though.

Thor oh im not trying to make a name, just looking to prove a point that everyone is wrong at some point, just like to see who admits it and who doesnt, it makes no difference to me personally, but richards and vulcan are superior to apocalypse, dont need a picture to know that much

Wonder Woman I knew you weren't mad . Just tryingtl to Explain to him to not do the mistakes that you and I done when we began .
Also now that @Andreasver guy is starting to get on my nerves . He won't stop with unne

Wonder Woman *Unnecessary Insults

Thor You see Kris, that's where I know you're lying, because for some reason, everytime you're online you comment on my stuff, so you're obviously going for the biggest and the baddest guy around to make a name if you weren't let it go and leave me alone.

Yeah, Andreas thinks Ryu is on Hulk's level, lol.

Wonder Woman Aand Cole McGrath onslaught level XD
But when my tabs fixed I have to convince Sora that Witch is not Multiversal o Omnicersal

Wonder Woman You are absolutely deluded if you think Apocalypse is the strongest mutant.
Most powerful Avenger is either Scarlet Witch or Doctor Strange, Thor and Hulk, come next.
Elaine Belloc is the supreme being, aka God of DC.
Strongest Telepath - Jean Grey, by far.
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As for my debating skills, you have no right to judge how good of a debater I am, and if you think I'm the worst on this website, you're absolutely wrong.

Wonder Woman And, to be honest, you're not such a good debater, you are biased towards Hulk, Thor and Superman, even though they would lose against superior opponents.

Wonder Woman And why you acting like an idiot right now? Just saying that you said that you read more comic books than me, doesn't prove anything. I've only seen knowledge about characters like Thor, Hulk and Superman. And, no, darling, you've never beat me in a debate, and never will.

Wonder Woman http://i.imgur.com/JfMeCq2.jpg

Superman says she's equal to him, and Superman would beat Thor. Easy.

Thor "You are absolutely deluded if you think Apocalypse is the strongest mutant."

Physically, yes! He is! He can lift the most and punch the hardest, strongest is different to most powerful, so I am still right

"Most powerful Avenger is either Scarlet Witch or Doctor Strange, Thor and Hulk, come next."

Scarlet Witch has never shaken an infinite number of universes, she's multiversal highballed, Hulk is High Multiversal highballed, bare minimum he is a whole tier above her, Thor is the same tier as Hulk, albeit a bit lower, due to Hulk always getting stronger, now, Hulk can go past High Multiversal with further forms, Immortal and World Breaker Hulk for example, and that's nowhere close to what he can handle.

"Elaine Belloc is the supreme being, aka God of DC."

Sure, but only recently, it was a man for trillions of years before her.

"Strongest Telepath - Jean Grey, by far."

Nate Grey makes her look like a toddler, without the Phoenix Force that is.

"As for my debating skills, you have no right to judge how good of a debater I am, and if you think I'm the worst on this website, you're absolutely wrong."

You have never beat a single person in a debate! You're lightweight! Stop riding your own erected member!

Thor "And, to be honest, you're not such a good debater, you are biased towards Hulk, Thor and Superman, even though they would lose against superior opponents."

Is that why I have run over literally anyone I have debated? The only person who can hold their own was Spidey and that's because he's improved! You and I are NOT ALIKE! Tracer! ManOfPower! Windshadow! EarthQuake! Akhill! Soulcollector! LINE EM UP I SPIT THEM OUT! I'm un-touch-a-ble! You will never beat me! And what hurts you more!? YOU WILL NEVER BE ME! And you hate that sooo much don't you? You dream of having half of the cred I do! You don't disrespect King's punk!

Thor "And why you acting like an idiot right now? Just saying that you said that you read more comic books than me, doesn't prove anything. I've only seen knowledge about characters like Thor, Hulk and Superman. And, no, darling, you've never beat me in a debate, and never will. "

Okay, you're backed so far into the corner that you're calling me an idiot now? Son, SON! PLEASE! Calm the hell down you little pretentious clown! Yes, it does! It proves I'm more familiar with comic books than you are! have you not seen my debate? I proved AQUAMAN would beat Green Lantern! Kid you ain't close to the tier below the tier I'm on top of! You're 10 tiers down son! Every time we've ever debated, I have shown stronger reasoning! Comic book examples! Feats! And FACTS! While you use misconstrued headcanon and false evidence! YOU ARE NOT A DEBATER! Go play with Flashii!

Thor A mere statement isn't going to prove your pathetic little fruitless argument, you've already lost! GIVE UP! You still haven't proven Wonder Woman would beat Thor, and besides, Superman has never performed anything close to moving an infinite number of universes of transcended time, so try harder.

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Thor @Sora
Most powerful avenger is Thor
Most powerful mutant is Legion
What the heck are you talking about? Oh no. I don't care, I know it won't make a difference to tell you whatever the hell I want, Female Fanboy

Wonder Woman Cranky, why'd so many people jump your case for that? Literally, its followed by facts. Besides the majority of "most" anything is female.

Wonder Woman Wonder Woman would beat Thor featwise

Thor I really don't care that she voted because ww is a woman even I'm a boy but Thor would win

Thor Yeah. In only those two.

Thor And fighting Skill

Thor They're probably relatively close in fighting skill, both at an incredibly high level, although given Thor has a tendency to brawl instead of use what he knows, I think it's fair to say she actually benefits much more from her elite level of combat skill. An elite skill only benefits you when you actually use it.

Wonder Woman No she dominates Thor in every category.

Thor What would happen if he god blasts her?

Thor She CAN block it with her shield or bracelets. But I doubt it.

Thor Has her shield or bracelets ever stopped something as powerful as the god blast?

Thor 1 god blast is all it will take for Thor to get the victory. And while Superman has survived Darkseid's omega beams, Thor has survived the explosion that killed Mjolnir.

Thor OFT Also has immortality and soul manipulation. Which is something WW cannot block

Wonder Woman Well I admit defeat . As I do not know much about wonder Woman
WHh is your favorite superhero/Villain

Thor My favorite superhero is Captain America and my favorite supervillain is Doctor Doom

Wonder Woman Wanna debate them against some of my Ocs

Thor Unfortunately I spend about 1 - 2 hours researching a character before debating them / using them in a video. Which I don't have the time to do.

Wonder Woman Ok 👌

Thor Wonder Woman is an Amazon. They're an obsolete race with predictable techniques.

Thor One of Diana's biggest weaknesses is sharp objects, so if Thor can somehow get that off of her (which would be easy with his speed) he will not kill her, but put her in pain until she admits to defeat. Also, Thor has dented the Silver Surfer and Mjolnir has only been blown up once to my knowledge, and that took an extremely huge amount of power, something far above WW. Thor also has the god blast, which would allow him to end the battle quick, and to my knowledge WW has nothing to defeat Thor.

Thor Thor's battle with Galactus effected multiple galaxies. Showing just how big his destructive capabilities are.

Thor That is true @TheNemianLion

Thor Sure

Thor It will be kind of tough because I've already stated why I think Thor wins here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAqgiq-a32Y

Wonder Woman Alright you to first

Thor Well since this is Odin Force Thor those are the feats i will be using. To disable to Odin Force from Thor Doctor Strange had to channel the power of the council elite of ALL pantheons on earth to only temporarily disable it. Why did Doctor Strange want to take it away from him you may ask? Because he knew Thor is way too powerful. He is also scaled from Odin in terms of speed and casually travels 9 universes like a walk in the park. (except that walk is a couple seconds long). He has multi galaxy durability also. Those are feats from Odin Force, but I still have some from Thor himself. (a less powerful version). He can throw his hammer multiple planets away to reach his opponent and has given Malekith a beating after his liver was transmuted in a broken piece of glass. Showing that Wonder Woman can do barely and damage to Thor.

Thor Thor has his Hammer which is stronger than her bracelets and Thor is definitely faster he can fly faster than the bifrost which is instantaneous Wonder Woman has not had any feats of speed that even compare.

Wonder Woman Uru cannot be compared with The Bracelets
THhors hammer has broke on many occasions
While Diana's bracelets has only been broken by Grail
Diana has been able to b lock multiple Godshards coming from different points of the universe moving at billions times the speed of light
She has tagged Reverse Flash who was not just moving faster in speed but also in time
How can Thor defeats her

Wonder Woman Hey bro people already said death battle isn't a valid argument
But what was your favorite episode

Wonder Woman Youtube sucks.
Zeus is not WW dad.
WW is mud infused with some gods powers.

Thor zeus is still stronger than her and my argument is valid

Thor Odin is stronger than Zeus.

Thor ManofPower, my favourite episode was Naruto vs Ichigo

Thor Actually you just broke another one of the laws on this website, only use canon evidence to support your winner. Marvel vs DC was not canon. Also you said it yourself Thor can fly. Also, god blast??

Thor Odin and zeus are on par . do research

Thor @Shazammmmm And?

Thor Thor is a god dude

Thor Oh my god. One of the laws of this website is use comics as evidence. Not some crappy video made by people who know nothing of comics and only use powerful evidence for who they want to win

Thor Death battles are scuffed

Thor It would not be that much of a stomp.

Wonder Woman Diana sword also cuts through atoms and has better villains to fight

Thor Thor hasn't been killed by nukes in anything canon.
He's taken heavier hits and has survived inside of a star.

Thor Define, "Hammering".

Thor @plaidcoolflyer he is just straight up pounding her with it hahah

Thor plaidcoolflyer: use your imagination....lol

Thor I know what it meant. I was just making sure.

Thor Thor is not weak to piercing weapons. Wonder Woman is.

Thor Also Wonder Woman has no solo strength feats other than beating Superman on occasion (a fight she'd also lose 6-7/10).
Finally speed isn't everything. Diana has lost to slower opponents like Darkseid who we know for all his power isn't known for his speed. She's also struggled against Doomsd who is also slower.
Thor as beaten people faster than him before and I doubt Wonder Woman is able to keep up beyond a cruising Flash certainly not his mass infinite punches. That said I doubt she has any kind of speed Thor can't handle.
Weapons are a moot point as well as if Thor hasn't faced swords and shields. Anything Wonder Woman has trained in Thor us familiar with. He just so happens has a mystical hammer as a weapon. The guy is an Asgardian who influenced Viking warfare. Wonder Woman uses Amazon warfare which is influenced by ancient Greek warfare. There isn't that much of a difference.
Finally, Thor is more durable. Having taken planet busting attacks and surviving in the heart of a star.

Thor What annoyed me about that answer so much is that you said "Read the comics people," when you yourself obviously have not. WW is not stronger than Thor. He has lifted incalculable amounts of weight that she hasn't. Also, his traveling speed has reached faster than light speed, and his hammer is much stronger.

Thor yes thor heals faster

Wonder Woman Wonder Woman has a similar form of Warrior's Madness when she takes off her bracelets. It pretty much does the same thing as Thor.

Thor Where in the comics does it say that when Wonder Woman takes off her bracelets, all attributes get increased tenfold?

Thor All you made us see is that you are a fanboy. Until you give us comics to prove everything you said is true, everything you just said is you're own opinion

Thor Superman is not much stronger than Thor dumbass.

Thor Look dude, if you're going to call people idiots or act like this, people get the hell off this site, you have no platform here to act that way, so either straighten the hell up or leave, you may have your opinions, they may be factual, but as soon as you insult someone, you just lost any and all standpoint you had, this is supposed to be a community, you don't just join the site and expect to be part of it, nah man, that's not how it works, you have to earn your stripes, with that attitude, news flash buddy, you're not getting them.

Thor @LeopoldSimmons WHERE'S THE PROOF?!

Thor We must take into account though that WW does not believe that there is honor in using Thor's weapon, as in battling Storm, she dropped the hammer and fought on her own. She still lost though. And due to the fact Thor has warrior madness, can control the weather, and is practically a god, I think Thor come out on top