GokuvsSuperman

Created by Ayoung23

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437 wins (64.6%)
Superman (Kal-El) 28
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superherorumble
Goku vs Superman
Goku Couldn't Goku just teleport Supes to a krytonite planet or something, because teleporting is one of Goku's powers. Also, Goku is strong enough to win in a battle against Captain Marvel, well, I think at least.
Eh
Goku vs Superman
not voted I can't vote on this one! It's too close!

Goku fighting Beerus was destroying the Universe, and Beerus is stated above Vegeta, who stopped Buuhan's Universal collapse. He then absorbed SSJ God into base. He was even able to match Jiren while in CUI, who is repeatedly stated above any other villain, including Infinite Zamasu, a Universe/Space-Time Continuum. He also scales above Beerus now, who is stated to be able to destroy 2 Universes by accident if he fought Champa. I don't find the World of Void impressive, as it was infinite nothing.

However, Superman fighting Golden Age Superman was breaking Space-Time. He blitzed partial Big Bang Level Imperiex Probes, gave 1/4th the Energy that Parralax needed to make a new Universe, smashed Neron's and Dominus' realities and broke Highfather's staff off the Source Wall. He survived the explosion of Reality Blitzing Missiles as well as Aztek's 4D explosion. As well as this, he's fractured, shook and stated he could destroy the Phantom Zone, which ranges from Universal to Multiversal in size.

Goku is faster than Piccolo, who fired a Sub-Relativistic attack at the Moon in Z. He also crossed Namek at similar speeds. We saw Vegeta's Final Flash travel to what seemed like a Solar System in Z, as well as Buu traveling throughout a Galaxy. DBS gave Speed feats too, like Goku's attacks crossing the Universes, Manga Goku moving in a destroyed Universe and attacks crossing an infinite realm.

Superman has dodged light speed blasts pretty casually. He scales to Karate Kid, who threw Mon-El into another Solar System, flew to the Sun and Back, traveled from Vega to Earth, a separate Star System, as well as scaling to Green Lanterns who crossed the Universe. He himself crossed Universes in Final Crisis and can swap hands with Wonder Woman, who blocked the Shattered God, trillions of shards that crossed the Universe. He's crossed Hypertime and moved when time is stopped as well.

So yeah, imma vote for a draw. Goku has the Attack Potency advantage, while Superman has Speed locked in. It can really go either way. In my opinion, DBS Goku vs Rebirth Superman is the most fair match. Both have Universal+ to Multi-Universal feats, as well as MFTL+ to Infinite for Speed. As a fan of both characters, it's way closer than most think. Either really can take it, so I'll go with Draw. I know voting for a draw is lame. I just can't help it.
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 4 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Actually the Ultra Instinct would split Sups
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migz925 1 mo 11 d
Goku vs Superman
4 year member
not voted Not even sure this fight would be close, Goku would mop the floor with Superman! If you don't understand why, its because you dont understand the DBZ Universe.
ForJustice1324
ForJustice1324 1 mo 11 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Stomp!
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Animememegodz 1 mo 27 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman indeed, superman may not be as tenacious as goku, but sometimes tenacity only prolongs the inevitable. Superman's powers are insane, he can patch up holes in reality just with his own static electricity and knowing goku, he would probably not know superman's connection to the sun and would not think to teleport him to a red star and even if he did figure it out, he could risk teleporting him to a blue star which increases superman's power, and if goku destroyed the sun, the supernova would blast all the way past Mars and incinerate him. So it ultimately, comes down to who is stronger, faster, and tougher.
strength: superman
superman pulled the earth which weighs about just under 6.6 sextillion tons, but since his solar power can rise infinitely, this is nowhere near his maximum strength
speed: superman
while being timed by Max Lord, Superman flew to the sun and back in less than 2 minutes, thats 9.4 billion kilometers an hour, not to mention he was fighting wonder woman the whole time, this is not his full speed, as according to batman, he can fly at least 17 billion kilos per hour.
durability: superman
the man of steel can survive the impact of multiple supernovas
a man who has to the power to break any limits vs a man who has no limits in the first place
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Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 27 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Stop copying death battle, this is plagiarism.
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Animememegodz 1 mo 27 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman why are you pressed dude, what do you want
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 27 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman All your doing is copying death battle's analysis word for word and then passing it off as your own. Stop
Alien_X
Alien_X 2 mo 9 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman I'm assuming that this version of Goku doesn't have Omni God or Ultra Instinct, as those have separate profiles.
This battle has two possibilities the way I see it.
1: Superman and Goku have an all-out brawl, in which Superman wins.
2: They fight so hard that the planet they are fighting on explodes, and Goku cannot breathe in space.
Wic23
Wic23 2 mo 10 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Goku would want to fight superman at his strongest and at his strongest as you can see with people like Superboy Prime, thos would mean that goku would have to beat someone who could punch there way out of the phantom zone which is an immaterial plane. Also because of kryptonian physiology superman would be able to absorb any energy goku throws at him
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ValdimirPaler 2 mo 21 d
Goku vs Superman
Goku So let me get this straight, people on this site think that Thor and superman is a closer fight than Goku and superman by a massive margin. Also, people massively lowball Dragonball characters when scaling. Nearly every DBZ character is at least a planet buster and Goku is the strongest of the Z fighters.
Heroclix21
Heroclix21 3 mo 5 d
Goku vs Superman
Goku The 2 dumbest characters ever written.
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jongensoden
jongensoden 2 mo 26 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Goku Uh superman is one of the best heroes
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 mo 29 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman Goku is a dumb character but he's powerful. Which is why I hate DBZ. It's just yelling and screaming to power up.
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Fletchy69420 3 mo 16 d
Goku vs Superman
Goku Goku because in the Manga he can pull off a imperfect hakai, which can erase any being even ghosts so add MUI with that (which clashes with fists shake the void that is an infinite dimension of nothing and reflexes are godly) I'd say Goku. Also is Doomsday can just beat him near enough by brute strength I'm sure Goku could.
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Watch these videos




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DevyEZ
DevyEZ 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Those videos are not relevant at all.
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman @devy watch the videos
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman No one gives a crap
DB_hustler
DB_hustler 3 mo 2 d
Goku vs Superman
Goku BlotskyA its post crisis superman

https://youtu.be/Xb5Y97Wtm9g
Si
SilverSisu 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IYmJ9sRq_zo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HO-mtDxB7cc
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman @SilverSisu & @DB_hustler



LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku Yikes, imagine using YouTube videos as evidence instead of getting scans yourself...
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman Ironic coming from you.
LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku I don't use YouTube videos unless I'm showing a scene from an anime, in which case there is literally no other option. And I haven't tried to pass of fan made videos as "evidence." So...
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman I'm sorry. That's both ironic and hypocritical.
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LordTracer
LordTracer 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku He says, yet decided to reply, showing that he does indeed care that I dismantled whatever "point" he thought he had.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 1 mo 28 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman Yikes! And imagine getting involved in a conversation that literally had nothing to do with you! Jesus. So you can hop off my d*ck, @Tracer.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 28 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman @HolyJoe those feats you listed out also put superman above silver surfer
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Otisplays 4 mo 7 h 43 m
Goku vs Superman
Goku Goku
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Ze
Zezzy 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Superman
DRAH
DRAH 4 mo 19 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Superman would own Goku anytime of the day. I'm assuming they fight without the use of Kryptonite or anything, and that is logical because Goku loves to fight his opponents at their strongest without the use of their weakness.

Invulnerability

Now, Superman is pretty much invulnerable to external hurts and attacks. Except when they are from someone who is as strong as he is or some form of magic attack. He is able to withstand blasts from explosions, guns etc without a single scratch on him. When you see Batman V Superman, the court explosion scene, he just stood there and the blast engulfed the whole place

Now, Goku, isn't invulnerable. When he was battling Frieza on planet Namek, he was panicking because the planet was on the verge of destruction- in other words, it was about to explode, and he had to run and scramble to a space ship to transport him out of there. What would Superman have done if he were in this situation? He would have taken the blast without a single scratch.
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Atomic_lantern
Atomic_lantern 4 mo 6 d
Goku vs Superman
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Goku So your saying the force of a court explosion is =planetary destruction


Not only that but you realize that that was back in the namek saga which is completely irrelevant to current goku who is 5th dimensional
Ze
Zezzy 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Goku is not 5th dimensional.
Atomic_lantern
Atomic_lantern 3 mo 9 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Goku https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDASnzvv7U0


Jiren was stated to have surpass time itself



Here we see a super sayian blue goku holding his own against jiren

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt40Jfd41Uk
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 9 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Supermans speed is much faster than people who transcend the concept of speed itself, and it can warp time and space when going max speed
Atomic_lantern
Atomic_lantern 3 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Goku Yeah but even a buu saga ssj3 goku was able to warp dimensions by powering up

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY2IBPzJhI

And current goku is literally infinitely above buu saga goku
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Si
SilverSisu 5 mo 9 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku Lifting strength = Superman.
Striking strength = Goku.
Travel speed = Superman.
Combat speed = Goku.
Durability = Goku.
Combat intelligence = Goku.
Overall intelligence = Superman.
Power = Goku.

Winner = Goku.
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Ze
Zezzy 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Haha no. Superman wins in those categories.
Si
SilverSisu 2 mo 7 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku Nope. Goku's base form is universe buster. Post crisis Superman is a Solar system buster. Goku > Superman.
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Post-Crisis Superman's latest feat in Detective Comics makes the entire Dragon Ball Heroes cast a baby in comparison.
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 5 mo 19 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman And what feat would that be?
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Knocking out The World Forger and destroying his creation.
LordTracer
LordTracer 4 mo 8 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku That's Rebirth Superman, and he was amped when he did that.
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman You do realize that DC Rebirth Superman is technically Post-Crisis Superman, correctly? Also he wasn't really amped, yeah not really, all he did was sundipped under on at least half a dozen stars.
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LordTracer
LordTracer 4 mo 2 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Goku You do realize they're still different and have separate profiles here, right? And yes he absolutely was amped, are you kidding me? Sundipping amps Superman.
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman "Sundipping amps Superman." So why is Goku allowed to transform into Super Saiyan since that is considered amped by your definition? Make this base Goku from Dragon Ball GT or Dragon Ball Z and then we will get a fair fight.
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Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 6 mo 14 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman What i think could go either way but Superman has better feats
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 6 mo 14 d
Goku vs Superman
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Superman Superman's been around longer than Goku even has, so of course, he has a longer list of feats.
Im
Imxander 6 mo 18 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Goku I'd just like to say, goku is more durable than you think. Superman can go inside a sun and won't be damaged yes but, once upon a time goku was struck by a Lightning Attack by master roshi. Lightning is hotter than the SUN AT 53,000 degrees Fahrenheit vs the suns measly 10,000. AS A CHILD. Now what kind of beating does goku take regularly? Well let's be real, the fights easily take it up to if not as fast as the speed of light. If someone were to punch someone at idk 670,000,000 mph (speed of light rounded down) with the average arm size of about 12 lbs. the force of one punch equals 8,000,000,000 lbs of force exerted into his face multiple times a day. I'm sure Superman can take it as well as goku can but let's be real here. Goku is more experienced. Superman is not more durable than goku. Superman is stronger and faster than goku. Goku is more experienced and has martial arts training on top of ssgss kioken x20 which amplifies his powers by Freakin 20 and ON TOP OF THAT HAS ULTRA INSTINCT WHICH DODGES FOR HIM. Of course ultra instinct won't always come out but I believe he is fast enough and experienced enough to keep up with and beat Superman.
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DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 6 mo 18 d
Goku vs Superman
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Superman Ha. I'm sorry, but you must not know that much about Superman. Lighting is 8 times hotter than the SURFACE of the sun. The core is much, much hotter than lightning. And if you think Superman going into the sun as a feat, you must not know much about him. Going to the sun will just make him stronger. Plus Superman and Goku are fairly even in strength, speed, and durability, but I would give an edge to Superman on those. Superman is also incredibly smart.
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 6 mo 26 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Goku and Supes ARE VERY Different characters because is their Power level is like a big gap. after learning little about goku (Watching Death Battle/ScrewAttacks's Verisons) i realize both goku and kal have limits
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Ze
Zezzy 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Sups don't
Ja
Goku vs Superman
Goku Easily Goku Why are you voting for superman????
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DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 6 mo 26 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman Because Superman does win in a good fight. He is stronger, faster, and much smarter. This is base goku vs base post crisis Superman.
djeec
djeec 7 mo 8 d
Goku vs Superman
6 year member
not voted Ageless icon vs. anime bullshit.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 26 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman ^^^
Ja
Goku vs Superman
Goku LMAO AGELESS ICON
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Classic ageless icon vs Anime bullshit
Lo
Loux61 7 mo 9 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Superman wins due to his hax/speed/intelligence/resistances/durability. Superman has consistently been Universal. While Goku takes it in raw power and AP being Multiversal, other than that Goku just loses.
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TsukuneAnon 8 mo 28 d
Goku vs Superman
Goku Goku has been classified as low universal destroyer by Akira Toriyama and has been said that in SSG form alone in his fight with Berrus that the entire Universe including Heaven and Hell were at risk each of which are of universal scale. Superman Prime one million is verifiyed to only be multi solar system buster not only that but after bringing out his full extent of power he can barely even walk straight for a total of twenty-four hours Goku on the other hand would be able to take the blast and still get up even if he is very wounded and useing base form alone would destroy superman not that Goku would not most likely be heavily injuried after the battle and would probably need time to heal. In the end though Goku would win.
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Ze
Zezzy 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Goku wouldn't win and so what if he's a universal destroyer? Superman already got feats that make him universal as well. Superman prime one million ain't only multi solar system and he doesn't barley walk straight for a total of twenty four hours Also agony haf a lot of strain in his body and he has limits that makes him who he is. Amira Toriyama didn't clarify that Goku was a universal destroyer. There's no proof. And using baseform wouldn't kill Superman. In the end, Superman wins.
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qsym_roksaton 1 mo 16 d
Goku vs Superman
not voted @Zezzy we aren't talking SPOM. we're talking superman.
IGLxAresx
IGLxAresx 9 mo 9 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman superman easy.
A_
Goku vs Superman
Goku Goku can literally turn the galaxy into dust.
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Ze
Zezzy 3 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Superman can turn the universe into grain
Breaker
Breaker 10 mo 1 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman Superman will take this .and a stomps
PhoenixForce5
PhoenixForce5 10 mo 1 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Superman stomps!!!!
Ja
JamieO36 11 mo 6 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman Please pick a winner for my new battle, 2B versus Green Arrow, not cw.
CsBat01
CsBat01 11 mo 14 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman Which versions of the characters are being used?
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 11 mo 14 d
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman DBZ and DB Super Goku vs Post Crisis/New 52/Rebirth composite
Phenomocomics
Phenomocomics 11 mo 14 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman I want to say a few things before I answer yes Superman can be hurt without kryptonite
But still doesn't mean goku recks I mean I'm both a dbz and Superman fan so I know both limits and saying who wins isn't easy it depends like if Superman does eye beams and solar flare he might win but so could goku if he goes ssgss or ultra instinct mastered and kami hami has with that but Superman could go inside the sun but with there base forms I'm going to going with sups
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Sq
Squish 8 mo 1 d
Goku vs Superman
Goku You definitely don't know anything about this battle then. Superman can't destroy a planet with that weak ass heat vision lol. We know what Goku can do seriously. Plus Google Superman's defeats it's a lot of them. Plus you can't even compared them,Dragonball Z,Super characters are way more powerful. Superman has been defeated by Lex Luthor,firestorm,wonder woman,sinestro,etc.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 11 mo 27 d
Goku vs Superman
2 year member
Superman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C1Cv7H6oyA
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Kathy_Strange
Kathy_Strange 11 mo 20 d
Goku vs Superman
Superman exactly what I thought when I saw this
Micahiel
Micahiel 11 mo 27 d
Goku vs Superman
3 year member
Superman I just want to point out that in base form Goku wouldn't have a chance fighting base form Superman. Now if by chance Goku could start the fight in his highest form vs base form Superman yes Superman loses but that doesn't balance it as if Goku starts amped so must Superman. Now starting at base form Goku is a force to be reckoned with but he is also very much childish but also a pacifist. He often helps his opponents out which would be his downfall. Now most of base form Goku's attacks would be an annoyance for Superman but not do much to him. He would then start channeling to become Super Saiyan which takes time. Superman would see his cellular structure gaining in power and most likely stop him before he could finish the transformation. I am not saying it is a clear win for either person here but if you take the most powerful form of Goku and compare it to Superman's most powerful form then Superman wins. Mostly due to him being designed that way. On the show Goku in base form was forced into the water where he ended up drowning. That couldn't happen to Superman as even with Kryptonite present which it wouldn't be... He has a sealed system and has no need to breathe. It is true in certain versions of him he wore a suit to breath in space and water. There were reasons for it that are not present here. All in all I think Superman in his base form beats Goku in his base form about 52% of the time as the fight could go either way and yes some would argue Goku's ki attacks are akin to magic... Superman has been able to overcome both Magic and Kryptonite as he is as powerful as he needs to be. Both are very broken characters and I wish them both well but I hope people think about the logic here. Many of Goku's attacks are things like Solar Flare and Sun Bomb which would if anything fuel Superman's Kryptonian cells. Unless the fight took place on neutral ground where Superman had no Yellow Sun to power him. In which case the fight would still be over before he depletes himself of his stored energy. I end this by saying Anime characters should only go against Anime characters as their abilities make no sense outside of their fandom.
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Ze
Zezzy 11 mo 11 d
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Superman Actually Supes would still win. If he loses he would give Goku VERY a high difficulty
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman New 52 was the reboot right
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Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman @lordtracer what happen to new 52 superman in the new 52
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
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Goku You've literally said what happens in it already.
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
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Superman he dies right
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
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Superman main-qimg-d774e73a3aae5aceac8e4c4e1d6a10ea-c so who is the suited superman in this pic
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
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Goku The hell are you even arguing right now, literally nobody said that Superman in the comics isn't Post-Crisis. But the facts is that the Superman profile ON THIS SITE is exclusively Post-Crisis, not Rebirth. Rebirth Superman can use feats from both Post-Crisis and Post-Flashpoint. This Superman profile, on this site, cannot use Post-Flashpoint feats, because it is exclusively Post-Crisis Superman.
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
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Superman http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Superman-52-spoilers-DC-Comics-Rebirth-3.jpg so lordtracer if new 52 is dead who he fighting in this pic the black suited superman
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
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Goku You are still arguing literally nothing.
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
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Superman you know what im going to leave you in your happy magical fun land
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
Goku vs Superman
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Goku You are literally arguing nothing, nobody said current Superman in the comics isn't Rebirth Superman. The Superman IN THIS BATTLE is not Rebirth Superman, and you have not proven that it is.
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Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
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Superman im sorry i really don't care for people living in happy magical fun land
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
1 year member
Superman you haven't even proven that this post crisis
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
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Goku Still haven't proven that the Superman in this battle is supposed to be Rebirth Superman.
Crimsonassassin
Goku vs Superman
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Superman i guess will never know
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 5 d
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Superman Don't worry 😉 @Crimson I've got your back. @LordTracer I've looked at everything on Superman's profile and there is nothing that directly says that it's not Rebirth Superman, meaning that that Superman profile is probably composite Superman. @Galactus can edit the Superman profile so it can be Rebirth, but I'm pretty sure that that won't happen since DC Rebirth is an extension of the New 52, there is literally NO REASON for him to be a separate profile, if anything Rebirth Superman IS New 52 Superman who has his own profile.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
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Goku Uh, so you clearly don't know what Rebirth is. Rebirth Superman is Post-Crisis + New 52, not just an extension of the New 52. There are numerous reasons for it to be an alternate profile. Namely, Rebirth Superman's feats don't apply to either Post-Crisis or New 52 individually. And nothing on the profile even implies that it's Rebirth Superman, nothing in the history mentions anything about Rebirth, and it clearly isn't a composite of Superman when the other incarnations of Superman, Pre-Crisis and New 52, have separate profiles. So your point of it not directly stating it isn't Rebirth Superman is invalid, you'd have to prove that it is Rebirth Superman first.
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 y 5 d
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Superman Yeah that's fine @Dark_Wing. @Galactus has taken pretty much care of this and might add Rebirth.
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 y 5 d
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Superman @Galactus favorite character is Superman so he will decide :)
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 5 d
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Superman What? I do know what DC Rebirth is, almost all of the DC comics I've read are New 52 and Rebirth, when I said "Rebirth is an extension of the New 52" I was referring to how many storylines from the New 52 were wrapped up in Rebirth. And Rebirth was basically an extension of the New 52 at least until the Watchmen returned. How dose Rebirth Superman's feats Rebirth Superman's feats not apply to New 52? I didn't see too many inconsistencies between New 52 and Rebirth. Now for the final point you made, Pre Crisis Superman is so ridiculously overpowered that he needs his own profile and the New 52 characters are meant to be separate from there original counterpart, this profile is pretty much composite Superman (for the most part).
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 5 d
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Superman @Jakcj how do you know that Superman is @Galactus's favorite character?
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 y 5 d
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Superman Great Memory
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 5 d
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Superman But that doesn't answer my question, how do you know that Superman is @Galactus's favorite character?
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 y 5 d
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Superman https://www.superherodb.com/who-is-your-1-favorite-character-/100-2852/
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
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Goku Rebirth Superman is Post-Crisis + New 52. It's not solely New 52, so it's feats cannot apply. It's very simple. You saying New 52 characters are meant to be separate just proves my point that Rebirth should be separate profiles as well. And absolutely nothing you said proves that the Superman in this battle is Rebirth Superman.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 1 y 5 d
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Goku Goku in base destroys.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 y 5 d
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Superman Agreeded
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 d
Goku vs Superman
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Goku Fax
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 1 y 2 d
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Superman *Goku in base GETS destroyed. Fax.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 2 d
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Goku Prove it, please.
HolyJoe
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Superman @LordTracer No, you prove it. And by "it", I mean prove:

1. Goku's got the mental capacity to process info faster than a supercomputer: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-4187192/
2. Can escape a double black hole: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111128444/3588808-1340779-154613_lightspeed2vm5_super.jpg
3. Can do something in a microsecond: http://i.imgur.com/mnK6Ppj.jpg
4. Get unfazed by a magical beatdown: https://imgur.com/a/ZwrYr
5. Is able to remove Highfather's staff from the Source Wall: http://i.imgur.com/DhWvqM0.jpg
LordTracer
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Goku 1. And that's relevant to a fighting setting how?
2.
Goku fell into a black hole created by the Universe 7 Spirit Bomb, and he was not only able to survive and destroy it, but he emerged from it in Ultra Instinct Omen.
Also a heavily fatigued SSB Goku destroyed a black hole with a single Kamehameha.

3. SSB Goku can keep up in combat with Jiren
, who transcends time itself.

4. Majin Buu is a magic wielder. SSJ3 Goku in the Buu Saga was pounding him.
(Start at 6:50)
5. Unquantifiable feat, and there's literally zero way for Goku to replicate that since the Source Wall doesn't exist in Dragon Ball.
Now, how about you actually prove your claim? Oh, and please explain what you think Superman's destructive capacity and speed are.
HolyJoe
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Superman 1. Intellect is the most important aspect of fighting. The fact that Goku's some kind of mastered martial artist doesn't mean he's got the capacity to think like Supes that since shown to be a dumb-ass throughout the entire DB series outside of fights.
2. Okay, so what? Where's the "double black hole" I've been looking for? I'm talking in terms of speed here, not durability. I've got no doubt that Goku can survive a black hole, but can he outspeed it?
3. Transcending time doesn't prove to me that Goku can move faster than that. I don't give enough of a rat's ass if Jiren can break a time barrier. Supes tagged Zoom who's got the speed of Flash who's got reaction time leagues above any of the Dragon Ball characters: http://i.imgur.com/VQuZn8z.jpg and tagged and flew Darkesid to the sun: https://imgur.com/a/hPFTu
4. Read my comment again. I said "unfazed by a magical beatdown", not "give a magical being a beatdown". How the hell do you think it went down for Goku in that fight here?

5. Gimme something you think is "quantifiable" in the Dragon Ball franchise is.
There, I proved my claim for ya. Now how about you enlighten me?
HolyJoe
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Superman I'm wrappin' this up. G'night and have a happy 4th tomorrow.
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LordTracer
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Goku 1. The speed at which one can process info is not intelligence. That's reaction speed, and Goku's reaction speed is faster than time. So that's far faster than Superman.
2. Again, Goku's faster than time. A black hole is not. Goku can outspeed a black hole.
3. You clearly didn't pay attention. Jiren didn't simply break a time barrier, he is explicitly stated to transcend the entire concept of time. Transcending time means one is unbound by it and faster than it. SSB Goku scales to heavily suppressed Jiren, who transcends time. SSB Goku's combat, movement and reaction speeds are all faster than time, which is faster than any feats you've given. You'll have to prove Flash is faster with actual feats, not just assumptions.
4. Yes, Buutenks/Buuccolo were more powerful than Goku. At that point in time. Goku is currently vastly stronger than them both. Also Fat Buu's magic didn't do anything to Goku, so...
5. How about something like, I don't know, destroying a universe? Nothing something so specific as plucking a staff out of the Source Wall. At least try to quantify the feat.

You didn't give Superman's destructive capacity or speed, like I asked. And no, you didn't prove Superman destroys Goku, you just gave feats that Goku can not only replicate, but one up.
HolyJoe
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Superman @LordTracer

1. Perhaps it is, but Goku's still not as smart as Superman. For all I know, Superman could use his vision powers to easily exploit Goku's weaknesses or throw something so unpredictable at him.
2. Okay, Goku's faster than time. So what? Do you have any evidence showing me he can outspeed a black hole rather than just using your scans?
3. Yeah, I'm well aware of what he did. But, on a regular basis, Goku's still not as fast.
4. Okay, maybe that wasn't a good example, but what I'm saying is that even with his Power Pole, Goku wouldn't really be giving Superman a hard time.
5. You got me there. But, that doesn't go to saying Goku can destroy a universe.

Unless you're looking for the exact coordinates from a specific Superman profile, I doubt I'll be able to provide that.
LordTracer
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Goku 1. Goku doesn't have visible weaknesses like that for Superman to exploit.
2. Black holes are bound by time, Goku isn't. That means he's faster. Unless you think a black hole can somehow trap a being so fast that time itself has no meaning to them.
3. Uh, you're gonna have to give feats proving that Superman is faster than time before you can say he's faster than Goku.
4. Goku doesn't even use the Power Pole anymore. And based on Goku's feats, he would obliterate Superman with honestly no difficulty.
5. Even though Goku is easily capable of wiping out several universes, as proven by several feats and scaling.

I don't really see why, Post-Crisis Superman's feats should tell you how fast he is or how much he can destroy.
SpiderBitten
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Superman Ultra Instinct this, Ultra Instinct that! Goku only mastered UI by Accident the first few times, and Dragon Ball Heroes isn't canon, so don't give me any scenes from the promotional anime, or whatever. Even with Ultra Instinct, Goku couldn't sustain it for long. Superman can get to the pace of the Flash and beat him easily, He broke Green Lantern Energy Constructs, Held a BLACK HOLE in his hand, Moved the earth around many times, bench-pressed the entire earth for five days, and fought his way through the big bang! What kinda feats have Goku done? Are they at THAT level? With Ultra Instinct? Hahaha! Don't make me laugh! C:
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LordTracer
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Goku Okay, you want Goku's feats? How about SSG Goku in Battle of Gods going to destroy the entirety of Universe 7, which is composed of at least two universes, and then surpassing that level in base form? How about ToP Base Vegeta, who current base Goku is far stronger than, casually destroying the Room of Spirit and Time, which is an entire space-time continuum? Base Goku surpassed Buuhan, who was going to wipe out the universe simply by screaming. Super Saiyan Blue Goku, after his fight with Kefla, had surpassed his first showing of Ultra Instinct Omen, which was able to fight on par with a heavily suppressed Jiren that had surpassed the power of time itself. None of the Superman feats you gave come even close to Goku's.
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Oblivion
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Superman Lol Base superman with a little amp destroyed the dark multiverse with a fist
@LordTracer
LordTracer
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Goku I assume you refer to the recent event. Superman needed a **** load of sundips in quick succession to do that, so not base Superman and not a little amp, and Superman only wiped out the World Forger's miniature multiverse that only had fifty-two universes in it. Base Goku at this point is easily capable of wiping more than that.
Oblivion
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Superman He one shotted outerversal world forger
LordTracer
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Goku No, he did not. I just explained all the context of the feat. World Forger isn't outerversal, and even if he was, that would be a massive outlier for Superman and it still wouldn't apply to base Superman.
Oblivion
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Superman World forger is outerversal he was created on primal monitor (beyond dimentional place) he survived in the void so he is outerversal second outlier really i am hearing this dumb arguement a lot nowadays superman represents the Most powerful emotion in whole dc (spectre Said this btw) how can feats of a charecter who represent hope can be outlier or pis?
LordTracer
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Goku Literally everything in DC was created on that thing, that doesn't prove its outerversal. And every character can be affected by outliers or PIS, and Superman is notorious for this. Thinking he can't be affected by either of them is the dumb argument. Superman is most consistently universal, in Post-Crisis, which is the one in this battle. Once again, REBIRTH Superman (aka not the one in this battle) needed numerous sun dips (a major amp) just to destroy The World Forger's miniature universe that only had fifty-two universes in it. That's a multi-universal feat, and only for a heavily amped Rebirth Superman. Not base Post-Crisis Superman, which is the one in this battle. And Goku can easily destroy far more than fifty-two universes, current base Goku can easily destroy over a thousand and current Goku's maximum power is easily fifth-dimensional.
Oblivion
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Superman Charecters who are created on void is outerversal
Crimsonassassin
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Superman No this is rebirth superman who's a mix of new 52/ post- crisis
LordTracer
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Goku @Oblivion That would make literally everything in DC outerversal, that is not even close to the case.

@Crimson No, it's Post-Crisis. It's always been Post-Crisis. If you want Rebirth Superman, you can add him.
Oblivion
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Superman Can you name me 5 charecters who were created on void lol
LordTracer
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Goku Literally... everyone... in... DC... I have said this three times now. You do understand that the Primal Monitor is literally just the paper that The Writer draws DC on, right? Literally everything in DC is drawn on the Primal Monitor.
Crimsonassassin
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Superman No @lordtracer here the article that proves it and the comic issues Action comics 976 and superman rebirth 2016 issue number 18 & 19 going into Action comics 976. https://screenrant.com/superman-new-52-comic-rebirth/ Now prove me wrong
LordTracer
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Goku That has literally no correlation with this site. The Superman currently in this battle has always been Post-Crisis Superman. Once again, if you want Rebirth Superman, you can go to the requests page and add him.
Crimsonassassin
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Superman Like I said rebirth is post- crisis
Crimsonassassin
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Superman And why would I ask if he's the same person last I checked if this post-crisis should he be called post crisis superman not superman
LordTracer
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Goku Rebirth is Post-Crisis + New 52. This is solely Post-Crisis.
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Crimsonassassin
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Superman So you agree that this rebirth superman
Crimsonassassin
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Superman I gave the comic issues if you think I'm lying read them and prove me wrongs also like I said before if this post-crisis superman it wouold say post crisis and last I check post crises is rebirth superman from the comics
LordTracer
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Goku I literally said; "This is solely Post-Crisis." It is not Rebirth, it is exclusively Post-Crisis.
LordTracer
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Goku And no, just because it doesn't say "Superman (Post-Crisis)" doesn't mean it's not Post-Crisis Superman. Hell, Superman's page on this site existed before DC Rebirth was even a thing. It's completely illogical to assume it's Rebirth on that alone.
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Crimsonassassin
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Superman Then why isn't he called post- crisis superman on this site he called superman if he was post crisis like you say he is then he be called that instead he called superman and last I checked rebirth superman was never added why because he's post - crisis superman in the new 52 universe the comics don't lie you just refuse to believe that this is rebirth superman
Jakcj
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Superman I agree with you on one thing. That there are so many superman characters, That i'd like just for one to have both of the traits.
Crimsonassassin
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Superman Yeah because new 52 came out rebirth just continues we're new 52 left off new 52 superman died and post crises took his place and now post crisis is ( rebirth) superman
LordTracer
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Goku You do realize that there are numerous characters where it's not specified what variation of the character it is, right? For example, Hulk is not called "Hulk (Earth-616)" or something like that, he's just "Hulk," and it is 616 Hulk. Goku is not "Goku (Dragon Ball Super)," it's just "Goku" and it's Dragon Ball Super Goku. This literally cannot be Rebirth Superman because the page was created before Rebirth even existed and Rebirth is an entirely different continuity to Post-Crisis. Giving comics doesn't prove that this Superman profile on this site is Rebirth Superman. This is Post-Crisis Superman, common logic and simple logic would tell you that. Once again, you want Rebirth Superman, add him yourself.
Crimsonassassin
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Superman yeah i do old man Logan is in earth616 because young Logan died and old man Logan took his place in 616 like i said new 52 superman died,post-crisis superman took his place so in general post-crisis is in the new 52 universe and DC rebirth continues where new 52 left off. Dc comics confirmed this also on this site there are multiple goku's this is base goku not ssj1 or ssj2 or god its base form goku im also pretty sure your going to the same answer that this superman is post-crisis/new 52/rebirth superman
LordTracer
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Goku You completely overlooked the fact that it's impossible for this Superman to be Rebirth Superman due to the profile existing prior to DC Rebirth and Rebirth being an entirely separate continuity from Post-Crisis, which is what the Superman profile has always been. And you're incorrect on Goku, he is allowed to use any of his canon transformations, excluding Ultra Instinct. It's not just base Goku. This Superman is Post-Crisis and Post-Crisis alone, you're going against simple logic.
Phenomocomics
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Superman Stop fanboying goku to be true Superman can make a black hole with his fist killing goku and if that doesn't since Superman's strength is infinite he'll always be strong enough to destroy goku
Oblivion
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Superman I dont know about dbz universe can goku win this
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HolyJoe
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Superman Nope.
Clint_Barton
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Superman Stop debating anime lovers. Goku can't win. Superman is too strong for him. His attacks are nothing for superman.
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Dark_Wing
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Superman Dude, I do agree that Superman wins but it's not the stomp that you think it is. Goku is the better fighter, more versatile and his staff counts as magic which is one of Superman's weaknesses (even though he's only we could do it the same way a normal person be). Goku is tough and someone that you would NOT want to mess with and he would give Superman a long and beautiful fight which could end in either one taking the victory, in my humble opinion Superman wins 6/10
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Clint_Barton
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Superman Goku is good combatant, but superman's durability is much better and superman is much faster, as fast as flash. So I don't think Goku will see that coming. Cmon dude!!!
Dark_Wing
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Superman Superman is not as fast as the Flash, Goku can to MFTL attacks as well. Prove that Kal's durability is too much for Goku, and I know you didn't just say Superman will blitz Goku.
LordTracer
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Goku *actually Goku has immeasurable speed at this point*
Dark_Wing
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Superman @LordTracer prove it
LordTracer
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Goku Ultra Instinct Omen Goku was able to fight evenly with a heavily suppressed Jiren.

Jiren, while still heavily suppressed, has power that transcends time itself (cough cough fifth-dimensional cough cough).

After breaking his limits twice, Goku was able to fight against heavily suppressed Jiren as a Super Saiyan Blue.

And Goku became even stronger.
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Dark_Wing
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Superman First off: UI has it's own profile. Second: I'm gonna need proof that Jiren is 5th dimensional. Third: when you're heavily suppressed that means you're not using the full extent of your abilities which means he's probably not using his immeasurable speed.
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LordTracer
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Goku 1. You completely ignored where I showed how SSB Goku is at least equal to UIO1 at that point.
2. Literally just gave it, his power surpasses time itself.
3. He literally showed immeasurable speed WHILE HE WAS SUPPRESSED.
Dark_Wing
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Superman Oh, sorry bout that. But one question: that version of SSJB Goku struggled against Krillan and Android 17, so how is it equal to UI?
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LordTracer
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Goku 1. That was SSB Goku before the Tournament of Power. The one that equals UIO is Goku after breaking his limits twice during the Tournament of Power. He got vastly stronger.
2. Goku will sometimes go Blue to test his opponents, Krillin and 18 are nowhere near SSB tier. Goku was simply testing their strength. And their feats afterwards prove Goku wasn't going all out against them, 18 was around the same level as a fully powered Ribrianne, who was simply unquantifiably superior to base Goku. 18 is an Pre-ToP SSJ2 Goku level opponent at the most and Krillin is inferior to 18, neither are Blue level.
Dark_Wing
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Superman 1: How did he get "vastly stronger?"
2: please note how I said Android 17 not 18 and I was referring it this https://youtu.be/5U82GtbfaSk. why why would he go SSJB to "test someone" if SSJB is stronger than most of his other forms?
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LordTracer
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Goku 1. Because... he broke his limits... and he is clearly shown to have gotten stronger... because he's now capable of throwing hands with Jiren... while before breaking his limits he needed UIO for that...
2. Android 17 is just Super Saiyan Blue tier. And Goku uses SSB to test his opponents, despite it being his second strongest form (that he can use at any moment) because he's an idiot. There's no logical reason for why he does it, he just does.
Dark_Wing
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Superman 1: Breaking your limits just means that you've surpassed your current limits meaning that if I could lift one pound more than I could yesterday and that technically means I surpassed my limits, still not proof that he got "MUCH stronger"
2: what do you mean it's the second strongest form they can access at will? I thought it was the strongest form he could access at will at that point. Oh man another person saying that Goku is dumb, Goku doesn't have much book knowledge which is proven when it takes them forever to learn how to drive but in terms of his fighting ability and tactical abilities he's super underrated in those categories (please note how I'm not say he's smart, he's just not the idiot people make them out to be especially when it comes to his fighting ability)
LordTracer
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Goku 1. Breaking limits in Dragon Ball always means someone gets vastly stronger. This is made very clear in Super. And again, SSB Goku went from getting casually bodied by Jiren to fighting evenly with him after two limit breaks, he very clearly got vastly stronger. And it again proves that Post-UIO2 SSB Goku is comparable to UIO1 Goku.
2. Nobody said Goku was an idiot in fighting. He's a dumbass in literally everything else.
Dark_Wing
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Superman 1: okay I got it, but how much did he grow in power between his fights with Krillan, Android 17, and Jiren?
2: this is just my personal personal opinion but I think that Goku's intelligence is the most underrated thing about him. I mean Goku's Telogen's is the most underrated thing about him. He was able to plan one step ahead of Hit this is best shown when he was able to counter Hit's attacks like reviving himself with a Ki blast (please remember that Goku hasn't seem many of the attacks that Hit was using yet he was able to adapt to them i'm not sure if you're aware that that takes intelligence or not), Goku is comparable to Piccolo and Vegeta as a martial artist and tactical fighter, Goku was able to decipher what Wis was getting at while he speculated on how Goku Black came to be. And remember he never had an actual education so imagine him with an education.
LordTracer
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Goku 1. He was extraordinarily suppressed against Krillin, so that's not important. From his fights with 17 and Jiren to his fight with Jiren after breaking his limits twice, Goku became literally infinitely stronger, as he went from being fourth-dimensional to being fifth-dimensional in his SSB form.
2. All of that is fighting based though. When it comes to almost everything outside of fighting, Goku's an absolute moron.
Dark_Wing
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Superman 1: can't argue with that, I concede to that point.
2: how is being able to decipher what Wis was getting at while he speculated on how Goku Black was created "fighting based?"
LordTracer
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Goku Okay, that's literally only one example (and really anybody could have figured that Zamasu had used the Super Dragon Balls). The fact that Goku is consistently an idiot when it comes to things outside of fighting still stands.
Ze
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Superman That isn't one example and Goku doesn't have immeasurable speed, I'm done talking with you dude, Superman beats Goku and Goku isn't a powerful fighter. Superman wins 9/10
Sq
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Goku Superman is a overrated superhero that has gotten his ass kick countless times. Google all of his defeats it's over 50,and stop comparing him to Goku. Goku is on levels superman will never be. Heat vision can't blow up a planet,none of his powers can. When Superman fights his speed is extremely slow to Goku. Plus that dumb comment,Superman can just throw Goku in space lol. Goku fought Beerus out of space smh. Typical DC fans lmao.
DeanDinosaur6
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Superman Superman can just throw goku into space and win easy at the beginning.
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LordTracer
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Goku That is completely out of character for Superman, and even if it wasn't, he'd have to actually get a hold of Goku first, which wouldn't happen, and Goku would just have to stand there like an idiot and not do anything, which also wouldn't happen.
HolyJoe
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Superman Because he IS an idiot. Goku can't survive the vacuum of space, but Superman can.
LordTracer
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Goku Goku is an idiot in nearly everything OUTSIDE OF FIGHTING. Goku is not just going to let Superman grab him and throw him into space, that's completely out of character for Goku. Similarly, throwing Goku into space would be out of character for Superman. Also Goku was fighting Beerus in space, and he was perfectly fine. There's also several other examples of Saiyans surviving in space.
Ze
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Superman Buddy Goku would let Superman chill in the sun and then when Supes gets lowered up, he would knock Goku out. Also saiyans fighting in space can be either outliers or inconsistencies. Things that dragonball and Goku have.
DeanDinosaur6
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Superman Is this post-crisis superman
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LordTracer
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Goku Yes.
Ja
Jack444 1 y 20 d
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not voted Same I see goku winning unless it's pre crisis superman
Crimsonassassin
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Superman New 52/ post-crisis this rebirth
Ze
Zezzy 11 mo 11 d
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Superman Not really a win for Goku considering Superman has universal feats
Ko
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Goku I'm more of a person who likes to watch these kinds of debates than to participate in these kinds of battles but I believe Goku would take this fight.

Reason 1. Superman has always been shown to be a brawler even though he's learned some forms of martial Arts and fighting techniques he always falls back on brawling because that is what he is a brawler. He has also been consistently shown to struggle against actual fighters.

Reason 2. Though he has shown great strength and power throughout the years his strength is inconsistent not to any fault of his own but he can go from moving planet to struggling to hold up buildings or even spacecraft's also he can go from taking multiple sun explosions to the face to being hurts by Ray guns to some extent (not saying Goku isn't either but that is more from holding back or being out of shape or dropping his guard.)

Reason 3. A drawn out fight can actually drain Superman or extended feats of strength what everyone seems to forget is Superman's powers are given to him by the earth's yellow sun making him a solar battery but like all batteries when it uses energy or does something that is taxing on the battery it loses energy Superman can lose more energy then he can absorb to the point he can't do anything, his solar levels are also never consistent making him weaker or stronger.

But this is just my opinion and I enjoy seeing other people's opinion tbh both these characters are my favorite but I think Goku might take it but I don't think he could **** on Superman if he did win it would be barely.
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Ze
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Superman Not really. All of your reasons aren't that good. But I respect them if they are your opinions. I say Supes crapstomps goku
TO
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Goku Aham miggate no gokui
All_Spawn
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Goku All I need to say is Kamahamaha
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Dark_Wing
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Superman Kamahmaha would just make Kal stronger.
LordTracer
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Goku In what world is that even close to the case?
HolyJoe
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Superman @LordTracer Every world. And a Kamehameha isn't a magic based attack, it's ki based.
LordTracer
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Goku Prove that a Kamehameha would only make Superman stronger. And literally nobody said it was magic based.
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HolyJoe
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Superman @LordTracer Lol, I never said anything about it making Supes stronger. On a regular basis, it wouldn't even lay a scratch on him. When I saw the original comment, I assumed you all thought it was a magic based-attack.
LordTracer
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Goku My response of "In what world is that even close to the case?" is to Dark_Wing's comment claiming a Kamehameha would make Superman stronger. And you then replied; "Every world," implying you agreed with him saying it would make him stronger. And can you prove a Kamehameha wouldn't harm Superman? Because feats and scaling say otherwise. And again, literally nobody mentioned magic, no idea where you're getting that from.
Ze
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Superman Feats and scaling doesn't say otherwise when it comes to the fact ki energy waves will only make Superman stronger
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 5 m
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Superman
"And no, Superman isn't consistently on the universal level in Post-Crisis, his most consistent mid-end level is solar system - multi-solar system. "

Lol the **** are you smoking? Superman is easily on a consistent universal level in post crisis, you keep downplaying him like it's hard truth when it isn't
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LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 2 h 20 m
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Goku You completely missed the part where I said MID-END.
Ze
Zezzy 11 mo 11 d
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Superman And you missed the part where you made bullcrap evidence
Kluba577
Kluba577 1 y 3 mo 10 h 31 m
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Goku @Zezzy: If u begin fight with LordTracer he will never give up. Always will argue to end
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Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 10 m
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Superman I can see that. **** him tho.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 2 h 21 m
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Goku You need to calm down. You just got on the site and you're already breaking rules.
Ze
Zezzy 11 mo 11 d
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Superman Lemme stop you right there, how are you going to tell me to calm down when you are over here getting mad because I made a point?
TheNemianLion
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Superman @Tracer Let's continue here.

The high balls of a base Superman are Multi-Universal - Multiversal, and his low balls are Moon - Planetary level, therefore the middle value or the median is Multi-Galactic - Universal, so that's the levels we will be using in this battle as Superman's middle-value area is around there, now, the sun dipping amp, Superman has used it enough, more than needed for it to be considered part of his arsenal, that's like saying Goku can't use his SSG or Ultra Instinct due to the fact he's only used those forms a few times, that's completely nonsensical, so allowing Superman the ability to sundip is completely reasonable, you just don't like that because that guarantees Superman the winner.
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LordTracer
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Goku No, I don't like sundipping because it's an outside amp that he doesn't use that much. If he were able to sundip on the fly, then I'd have no problems with letting him use it. And I think it makes more logical sense to say he is solar system - multi-solar system, as that level is the most consistently shown, and Superman has been consistently shown to struggle against, be damaged by and output solar systemic amounts of force.
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 11 h 19 m
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Superman Sundipping isn't an outside amp. Btw Superman has been consistently multi universal to multiversal. Goku has inconsistencies before yet people don't meantion them. Supes wins.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 11 h 14 m
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Goku Excuse me, what? Superman cannot just call upon the power he has while sundipped whenever he wants. Ergo, it's an outside amp. And no, Superman is not consistently universal - multi-universal with his mid-end feats in Post-Crisis. Pre-Crisis, yes. Post-Crisis, no. And Goku's "inconsistencies" are all due to him either holding back, or being off guard.
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 11 h 11 s
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Superman Sundipping isn't an outside amp. Btw Superman has been consistently multi universal to multiversal. Goku has inconsistencies before yet people don't meantion them. Supes wins.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 10 h 57 m
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Goku Why did you repost the exact same comment...?
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 10 h 56 m
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Superman Uh yes he can. He gets stronger and stronger depending how much sun radiation he gets. Plus if we use a blue sun, it increases his power tremendously. And no, Superman IS consistently multi universal, and Goku wasn't holding back or being off guard, most of his fights were consistent. Post crisis is multi universal. Btw Goku is universal only in MUI form. Not in base form.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 10 h 34 m
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Goku That's not sundipping, and we aren't using a blue sun, it's the standard yellow sun. And no, Superman isn't consistently on the universal level in Post-Crisis, his most consistent mid-end level is solar system - multi-solar system. And every single time Goku has shown a low-end (getting scratched by a bullet, getting harmed by a laser, being matched by Buu Saga level people, etc.) all of those times were due to him holding back or being off-guard. Anyone who actually watches Dragon Ball or does some research would know this. And Goku is easily universal in his base form. He absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God into his Super Saiyan form. SSG Goku's clash with Beerus was going to eliminate Universe 7, a feat calculated at 110x universal. That's multi-universal, already. Goku absorbed that into SSJ, then surpassed that in his base form after breaking his limits. Goku's multi-universal in his base form, and that's only by the time of Resurrection F.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 10 h 32 m
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Goku Oh, and show me when Superman has ever just used his sundipping power without actually sundipping, since you apparently think he can do that.
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 7 m
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Superman "That's not sundipping, and we aren't using a blue sun, it's the standard yellow sun."

Why? It's a common fact that the blue sun tremendously increases Superman's power.
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Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 4 m
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Superman
"And every single time Goku has shown a low-end (getting scratched by a bullet, getting harmed by a laser, being matched by Buu Saga level people, etc.) all of those times were due to him holding back or being off-guard."

How were all of those times was just him holding back or being off guard? That is the most stupidest **** I've ever heard, not once have we ever heard Goku was holding back in a fight against a stronger opponent nor was he off guard and even in his base form he still gets hurt by normal means necessary, reason why because is possibly because of ki but there are people who explains it more better than you do.
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 3 m
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Superman
"Anyone who actually watches Dragon Ball or does some research would know this."

Anyone who watches Dragon Ball it does research will actually know you are bullshitting.
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 3 m
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Superman "And Goku is easily universal in his base form. He absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God into his Super Saiyan form. SSG Goku's clash with Beerus was going to eliminate Universe 7, a feat calculated at 110x universal. That's multi-universal, already. "

Goku and Beerus's feet isn't universal, the only person who was universal at that time was Beerus who is a universal being, Goku's feat was only a multi galaxy level feat because it was just a shockwave that blinded the world and didn't even hurt any fractions of the universe. That isn't universal, and Goku absorbing his SSG form into his super Saiyan form is only to multi galaxy level. Goku is not universal in base form. Your calculations are bullshit.
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 2 m
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Superman "And no, Superman isn't consistently on the universal level in Post-Crisis, his most consistent mid-end level is solar system - multi-solar system. "

Lol the **** are you smoking? Superman is easily on a consistent universal level in post crisis, you keep downplaying him like it's hard truth when it isn't
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 1 m
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Superman "Goku absorbed that into SSJ, then surpassed that in his base form after breaking his limits. Goku's multi-universal in his base form, and that's only by the time of Resurrection F."

Goku is not multi universal in his base form and there are already people who debunked that bullshit already. Breaking his limits isn't going to do **** for a person who is still stronger.

"Oh, and show me when Superman has ever just used his sundipping power without actually sundipping, since you apparently think he can do that."

Lol dude if you actually read a comic or better yet, how about you look at All Sunday, Tablesidebeast and Dave Valor's videos and you would realize how much of a punk ass ***** you are. You just proven yourself that you didn't beat anyone in the comment section and the fact that you're a Dbz fanboy who can't accept facts that your Saiyan in orange gets shitstomped by many powerful characters. Learn your **** and stop being *****. If you want proof, go look up Manchester Black and his crew Vs Superman. Or any other battles that had Superman use his sundipping powers from many many comics. Have fun **** boy.
LordTracer
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Goku 1. You just gave the exact reason why we aren't using a blue sun. Why the hell would Superman be given a power amp for this fight?

2. If you don't think Goku was holding back against Buu Saga level fodder like the Trio De Dangers, you must think they're God tier as well. And unless you think ToP Saga Goku is BULLET LEVEL, then you have to accept the fact that he holds back.

3. Fantastic rebuttal, except the people who actually watch the show understands that Goku holds back all the goddamn time.

4. You need to stop swearing so much, first of all. That's against the rules. Second of all, the feat is not merely multi-galaxy level, it was explicitly stated several times, some of those times coming from the narrator himself, that it was going to destroy the universe and that SSJ Goku and Beerus were hitting each other with punches that could destroy the universe.

5. Goku is multi-universal in his base form, again, he absorbed SSG which was at the very least two times universal. And your little whatever about breaking his limits means literally nothing.

6. I love how you link people on YouTube to try and explain Superman's power instead of linking a comic or a scan to show your claim. Good job, you're proving everyone proud. Oh, and for your information, because I know you don't know, I don't even like Goku.

7. I would suggest you calm yourself, swearing at people and acting like a child who thinks he's tough because he uses swears just makes you look stupid. Articulate your points in a calm and collected manner, and you might be taken seriously. Don't fly off the handle over something as trivial as a debate over fictional characters.

8. Oh, and try to put all your replies in one comment, it looks much neater.
Dark_Wing
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Superman "Goku's inconsistencies are all due to him either holding back, or being off guard." Same could be said for Superman.
LordTracer
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Goku No. No, it really can't. Superman has been written by numerous writers who differ on their ideas of how strong he truly is, which results in him being hella inconsistent throughout his history.
Ze
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Superman 1. When did I ever give you a reason why we can't use a blue sun? Goku ses a Kamehameha wave that would just power up superman in instant, that ain't a smart move.
2. If you really think Goku was holding back you obviously don't know crap about dragon Ball. And if you really think that logic will apply to you, then you really need to do more research.
3. Except the fact the people who watch the show make misconceptions and take it as a fact when in reality there's more truth than there is tho the blinded eye. Goku doesn't hold back, he wasn't to fight people at their full strength.

4. Boy you ain't entitled to what I can and cannot say, if I want to curse I'll curse till my mouth starts gettin dry, second of all the frat WAS actually multi galaxy level, and saying that it was stated several times when it's actually far from the truth is an example of you denying facts and can't do basic research. Goku only canceled Beerus's Attack, they weren't destroying the universe
5. Again Goku isn't multiverdal in base form and absorbing ssg doesn't make you universal, it only makes you slightly stronger, he's still planet level in base. And my breaking his limits means a lot.
6. I love how you ignore my links of the people (who can debunk your claims easily) instead of manning up and watch the videos in the first place. Also dude judging from the way you're ******* Goku to the very extreme, it's pretty obvious you love Goku and have a hate ***** for Superman. I like Goku but he doesn't beat Superman.

7. And I suggest you get your fanboy d off of your butt, saying I'm a child while swearing doesn't give you any pointers and it just makes you seem retarded. Don't give people bullcrap and

8. Ooh ooh I got a better idea! How about you actually read superman's Comics and look at links I show you so you can realize your mistakes? That's a good idea! If you do that then I will take you seriously (probably) but if not then you're just a waste of my time, see ya loser!
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debayz 1 y 3 mo 20 d
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Goku Definitely Goku! Limitless power, can transform several times to boost up power and desire not to lose will be his advantage. Not a chance for Superman.
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Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 11 h 16 m
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Superman Goku doesn't have limitless power. And his desire not to lose isn't an advantage as he only fights to defeat himself, he prefers to have a fight with people of their full potential and if Superman takes a dip in the sun, he wins.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 11 h 13 m
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Goku Yet Superman isn't allowed to sundipped, so...
Ze
Zezzy 1 y 3 mo 3 h 1 m
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Superman Yet Goku isn't allowed to to SSG so.
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 3 mo 2 h 19 m
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Goku Except he is, as he can call upon that power whenever he wants without outside help.
Ze
Zezzy 11 mo 11 d
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Superman Except he isn't and even if he is he still would get his butt kicked by Superman. And Goku needed outside help for his fights
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 y 5 mo 11 d
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Superman Superman can probably beat up to a Super Saiyan 4 Goku. No where above that
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LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 4 mo 7 d
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Goku SSJ4 isn't even canon.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 y 4 mo 7 d
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Superman ?
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 4 mo 7 d
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Goku What? It's not canon. If you want a Goku that can use SSJ4, see this: https://www.superherodb.com/goku-dragon-ball-gt/10-15092/
Sq
Squish 8 mo 1 d
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Goku Lol Superman's fans are delusional as hell. Lex,shazam,Batman,venom,Muhammad Ali,doomsday,mongul,darkseid,etc.
The_Golden_Rage
The_Golden_Rage 1 y 5 mo 18 d
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Superman Superman For The Win
BayonettaFan
BayonettaFan 1 y 5 mo 20 d
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Goku Gokupotence>>>Screewattack Superman
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Ze
Zezzy 11 mo 11 d
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Superman Gokupotence isn't real
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 5 mo 26 d
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Superman One battle that Death Battle actually got right ;)
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 5 mo 26 d
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Goku Why are you rehashing a debate?
HolyJoe
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Superman @AkhilPDX The research was jacked up, but the outcome was correct.
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LordTracer
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Goku Um, first off, I don't know why you're bringing up Strange Visitor Superman. It's an entirely different version of Superman, while the one in this battle is the normal, canon Superman. Secondly, the "design" of the two doesn't mean anything in a versus match. Next, Goku and Superman are comparable in speed and Goku is stronger and more durable. Base Goku is several times greater than universe level, about ten times greater, while Superman is only about three to four times greater than universe level.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 y 6 mo 4 d
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Superman 1) Superman can lose fights
2) Goku is NOT universal
3) Superman is NOT universal
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 6 mo 4 d
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Goku Goku is universal, I've beaten you at that debate several times now. Superman is universal in Pre-Crisis.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y 6 mo 3 d
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Goku @LordTracer: "Several times greater than universe level." So what? Outermultinfinitynucleoembryoticplasmaticsupe riumversal level?
ManofPower
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Superman Lol!
Superman and Goku are both universal . Superman was able to beat the living **** out of Mongul . Nearly kill Wonder Woman and was able to vaporise a villain on his level with the solar flare . Imagine if he goes to the sun . A Kamehameha ain't doing anything . Superman is faster as he has crossed the bounds of infinity and has traveled from one end of the universe to Earth , the dc universe is much bigger than our normal universe . Superman is stronger as he was able to shatter reality , break highfathers staff out of the source wall which is considered infinitely powerful punch Death right in the jaw , Survive being thrown into a red star and actually destroying green lanterns constructs. Superman could simply lobotomize Goku , snap his neck and other ways . Martian Manhunter who is slightly inferior to Superman punched Superboy Prime and actually harmed him .
LordTracer
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Goku @Spidey Uh, no. Several times universe level is obviously just multi-universal.
@MoP A Kamehameha from base Goku would heavily damage Superman. Goku's power is already superior, and when Goku uses the Kamehameha, his power is multiplied by a little over two times, as seen in the Saiyan Saga, where base Goku had a power level of 416 and it increased to 924 when he used the Kamehameha. And both Goku and Superman have immeasurable speed, so there's little difference between them. And Superman isn't stronger because his best feats and scaling are universal - multi-universal, while base Goku's feats and scaling are on that level as well, and Goku can amp himself with the Super Saiyan forms.
Soulcollecter57
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Goku @Manofpower, that fact the you can still sit there and say Superman wins despite the fact that I have proven you wrong EVERYTIME we've discussed it is beyond me. I still like you, but the blind fanboyism is ridiculous, you've already admitted that Goku wins, so why do you persist on continuing with that false narrative?
Soulcollecter57
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Goku Also @Manofpower, traveling across the universe to Earth, that's only half of the universe and that still took him 9 days, Superman still has measurable speed, whereas Goku had irrelevant speed, meaning it transcends 4th dimensional based of scaling from Jiren who managed to walk within a time cage meaning he does not require time to move proving he is above the concept of time and has irrelevant speed meaning he is so fast it doesn't matter anymore, and that was Jiren while holding back, at most 50% of his power and Goku was able to keep up with him easily throughout the entire fight, meaning Goku also has irrelevant speed outclassing Superman's finite limits, as does his strength, he broke reality with a punch? Good job, Majin Buu did that all the way back in the Buu saga by simply yelling, so Superman is Buu Saga tier at the most, Ultimate Gohan **** stomped Buu who has an equivalent feat to Superman so Ultimate Gohan should logically be able to stomp Superman, the guy is outclassed in every facet except intelligence.
Dc
Dcmcu 1 y 6 mo 3 d
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Superman If Superman was out classed then why are you showing no facts or something saying he is we're your facts at
soulcollecter34
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not voted @Dcmcu, um where is your evidence, you didn't even provide any thing that I can argue, but since you asked here is my evidence of Goku and beerus almost destroying the entire universe in the FIRST SAGA of the entire series-
https://www.google.com/search?q=goku+and+beerus+destroy+the+universe&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja7ueho-LfAhWomuAKHf8rAVYQ_AUoAX
soulcollecter34
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not voted I showed facts every other sentence, maybe you should learn to read EVERYTHING and not just the first few words before you come at me rookie, you didn't debunk any of my claims, debunk means to prove wrong, because I have a feeling you didn't know that based on your lack of evidence in your statement, and now I gave you concrete evidence PROVING all of the facts I had showed previously.
ManofPower
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Superman 1. One I just don't like anime (Not saying Ihate them and they lose)
2. I just don't see GOku winning . I just go with the flow as t not cause drama
3. It's just a thing j do. Sorry
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
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Superman You do realize Goku can't physically hurt Superman since Superman has invulnerability correct?
LordTracer
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Goku If that was how things worked, Superman would never be physically harmed by anything at all. However, that's not how things work and he can be easily harmed by beings on or beyond his level. And considering that this is only Post-Crisis Superman, who is weaker than even Buu Saga Goku, it's quite clear that current Broly Saga Goku is more than capable of damaging and killing Superman.
TheNemianLion
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Superman Hold up fam, barely Galaxy Level SSJ3 Buu Saga Goku beating Multi-Galaxy - Universal tier Superman? Mmm, me no thinks you are correct, especially when Superman sun dips, where his power goes up to Low Multiversal tiers or beyond
LordTracer
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Goku Post-Crisis Supes being multi-galaxy, let alone universal is not consistent with most of his feats of strength and durability, he normally operates at around solar system to multi-solar system level. And sundipping is an amp that he rarely uses, so that wouldn't be allowed.
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
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Superman Who says this is Post-Crisis Superman? Regular Superman can range between Golden Age Superman to all the way to Modern Age Superman. Also name me one time Superman physically hurt by anyone without magic, kryptonite, red sun, etc.? The only time you can physically hurt him is if he is not absorbing any solar energy, those times he got physically hurt are due to plot induced stupidity and outlier, or he is fighting opponent beyond his league like a 5th dimension imp. There was one time in the comic book where Batman was fighting against a weakened Superman, instead of Superman getting hurt, Batman end up breaking his hand just by punching him.
LordTracer
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Goku Wow, w**k much? You're saying that nobody can harm Superman without any of his specific weaknesses or being stronger than him. Okay, so all those times where Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, Supergirl, Shazam, Black Adam, Darkseid and several other people have consistently harmed him were just PIS? If that's how you see things, then there's honestly just no help for you. That just makes it seem like you want Superman to win every single fight and you're letting your bias override what really matters, that being feats and scaling. By the way, this is Post-Crisis Superman because that's how it works on this site. You want to use Pre-Crisis Superman, or Post-Flashpoint Superman, they have separate profiles. This is Post-Crisis.
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
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Superman Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, Supergirl, Shazam, Black Adam, Darkseid? The same Wonder Woman who has magic due to being the daughter of Zeus? The same Jal Jordan who can also project kryptonite with his ring? The Supergirl who herself has invulnerability due to being a kryptonian? The same Shazam and Black Adam who are humans empowered by magic itself? The same Darkseid who has invulnerability due being a New God and can tap into Omega Effect?
LordTracer
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Goku 1. Wonder Woman, Shazam and Black Adam having magic is irrelevant. Fun fact, Superman is not actually weak to magic, he is simply as vulnerable to it as any normal being would be.
2. Hal Jordan can't project Kryptonite in Post-Crisis, try again. Also John Stewart was able to harm Superman without Kryptonite.
3. According to what you said, Supergirl should not be able to harm Superman. Since you think someone needs to have one of Superman's weaknesses to harm him, Supergirl shouldn't be able to harm him. Contradicting yourself.
4. That's not kryptonite, red sun radiation or any of Superman's weaknesses, so again, by your faulty logic, Darkseid shouldn't be able to hurt Superman.
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Iron12 1 y 6 mo 4 d
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Goku Scores still show people ignorant of Goku's power level, and just take Deathbattle's verdict as law....lol. Deathbattle's verdict was screwed up on purpose, it was purely a political move on their part to bring controversy to their video to draw in more views. Even as a more casual viewer of DBZ I knew their analysis was incorrect. Now with Ultra instinct Goku, Goku is certainly on another level than Supes, and deserves a power level well into the 30's and even 40's and 50's compared to other character's on here.
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Crimsonassassin
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Superman You think people choose superman over goku because of death battle you got the wrong idea ultra instinct ran out of energy goku lost to jiern had to had help beat him this superman is base rebirth Superman who's a mix of new 52 superman and post and if goku should get a power than superman should to.
Crimsonassassin
Crimsonassassin 1 y 6 mo 5 d
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Superman This video is something I use in fight because this fight needs to stop
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYE3LMHo1As
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 y 5 mo 29 d
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Superman This is base goku he doesn't have ultra instinct in this battle, if he did then it would be clear who would win
Na
Nanotech 1 y 6 mo 7 d
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Goku Ultra Instinct Goku will destroy Superman
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 y 2 mo 21 d
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Superman this isnt Ui goku
Crimsonassassin
Crimsonassassin 1 y 6 mo 8 d
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Superman Then why pick Goku I like your webiste on Goku vs Superman.
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nancysamuel104 1 y 6 mo 8 d
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Goku Before voting I recommend to read this goku vs superman who would win?
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ArthurCurry89
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Goku Screewattack Darkseid destroys Screewattack Superman now
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 15 d
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Superman Darkseid destroys what?
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 y 5 mo 29 d
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Superman Uhh what?
Mo
Morex23 1 y 8 mo 1 d
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Superman Superman sans hésitation
Lobo666
Lobo666 1 y 9 mo 12 d
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Superman Supes wins.
Dc
Dcfan123 1 y 9 mo 18 d
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Superman Is solar engry limitless
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AndreasVer
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Goku Yeah for some billion years where suns constantly project energy while being millions of times larger than your little planet.
AndreasVer
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Goku vs Superman
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Goku Goku and Superman have equal strength, energy and intelligence, with Superman being a bit more durable, and Goku being a bit faster. Goku's most powerful attacks are not punches or kicks, but rare long range energy blasts. So Superman has to understand that Goku is not dangerous when he is at his best in the blows he trades with Superman, but when he is not focused on the close strikes where Superman will put a ton of effort to prevail, and Goku will be charging Kamehameha. So Superman should use the unorthodox strategy to fly as if he is fleeing when he is not losing, instead of trying to finish off an extremely strong opponent as usual whenever he seems vulnerable. This will allow Superman to be prepared to avoid the Kamehameha that will damage him so much that Goku will seem invulnerable, although he is not. Then Goku will tire in a long fight until Superman will be able to beat him without using constant offense before his opponent could retalitate as in most cases, due to Goku's advantage in speed diminishing. Until Superman changes his tactics which were often effective against other foes that were slower than him, he will always lose, but Goku will not be able to kill him as he will flee with his flight. Goku is faster in attacks but not in movement. So Goku will beat Superman many times before Superman wins the final battle, and kill Goku.
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Squish 8 mo 1 d
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Goku They don't have equal nothing. Why do people even say stupid comments. First off superman can't destroy the earth or any planet with heat vision. We definitely know what goku can do smh. Different levels,Krillin would whip Superman.
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racoleman1 1 y 9 mo 20 d
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Superman Goku losses 7 times out of 10. Plus his intelligence needs to be lowered.
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 9 mo 19 d
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Goku Would you like to have a (friendly) debate about this?
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y 10 mo 8 d
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Superman Are we using DBS, DBZ or something else?
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LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 10 mo 8 d
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Goku Z and Super.
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y 10 mo 8 d
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Superman Ok, Goku wins
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 9 mo 22 d
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Goku I can't believe it... you both voted Goku... NANI!?
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Dcfan123 1 y 10 mo 27 d
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Superman Ive called this fight long age
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Dcfan123 1 y 10 mo 27 d
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Superman The canon is everthing you have alot of reading to do because everthing goku has done superman already did like i said everthing is canon so you have to from were it all started.
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Dcfan123 1 y 10 mo 27 d
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Superman Justice league #40 new 52 everything is canon I win
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 27 d
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Goku What does that have to do with you winning? No matter the canon Goku wins.
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Dcfan123 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Superman warped reality/ destroed the the boundaries of space and time with his earth 2 counter part and the same fight was shown through out the infinite multiveres and also there are two definition s of world.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Goku's greatest feats-
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Shaking the World of Void, which is infinite.
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http://imgur.com/exVVRn5
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The ability to destroy 1.5 universes in base, then with the additional multipliers from all of his forms, making him 2,160,000x universal, 3x that with the Kamehameha.
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He can fight Jiren who is 4D.
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http://imgur.com/rWPCh5U
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Tanked the Hakai, existence erasure.
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https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4e/02/7c/4e027c3f0a3414eb05cf8fd42c3a4cc4.jpg
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He can use the Hakai, once again, existence erasure
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCh1LcqXgAAL3d_.jpg
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Among other things
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman On your browser type in supermans greatest feats and in the first ten results is where I got my feats from .
And repairing the universe with his heat vision is maybe (Possibly not) means his lasers are universal in terms of Power . And Ultraman and Supes fought and damaged the multimeter (can't find the scan) sule r man has punched ..... PUN CHED through reality literally shattering it
https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
And this scan right here proves why superman beats gok u
https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku It doesn't matter what I type in my browser, I can guarantee that none of Superman's feats fall into the Multiversal range. Hell no, Superman repairs a SMALL crack in reality, it is not universal, it is unquantifiable. I'm pretty sure it was Superboy-Prime that shattered reality, and he is vastly more powerful than regular Superman. Also, please stop using Bing, none of the scans you send me from there work...
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku I mean, I can guarantee he doesn't have consistent feats that put him on the multiversal level, he has a few, damaging EJ and Soul Fire Darkseid are the two I know of, but that would be PIS, because NO other feats are on the level of that.
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Well since the bin g browser isn't working i guess I lose . I can't actually quite comics .
So until I can actually quite comics i won't be able to defeat this debate . Nice debate though .
But like I said super prime and man collided disturbances her the multiverse
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Wait, so you admit defeat? Also, if Superman and Superboy-Prime actually caused disturbances in the Multiverse, that still wouldn't be Multiversal levels of destruction.
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Yeah I admit minor defeat . If the scans would of worked impossibly would be won but yeah I admit defeat
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 1 y 10 mo 24 d
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Superman @ManofPower Why not just use google?
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ewwwppl 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman reading the comments and i wanna drop my 2 cents in. in my personal opinion i think superman would win. but to the superman fans. goku is not weak. and to the goku fans superman is not weak. i see a lot of people saying "goku would one shot supes in base form" or "superman kills goku in seconds" they wouldn't kill each other. they'd probably team up and become the new gods of destruction. honestly silver age superman stomps. cosmic armor is a mega stomp and superman prime one million is a mega stomp as well. as for new 52 and rebirth and some other iterations of supes. SSB would win after a long fight and UI stomps. SS1-SS4 is not enough to beat supes and SSB & UI are gonna be a lot for supes to handle. continue the battles i just wanted to pitch in and let y'all know that this isn't gonna be a stomp fest. there are forms of goku that stomp supes and there's iterations that stomp goku. hate to sound like i'm sucking superman but it really all boils down to which superman is going up against goku.
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku I'm glad that you are giving your opinions, more people need to, but I disagree with a few of your statements. First of them being that SA Superman stomps, he can't, he is highly overrated just because of the blowing away the Solar System feat, which is not impressive as Super Breath is one of his powers. SA is around the Multi-Universal levels of power, I would say he's the most power, but he gets cast aside by Goku, pretty handily. Next thing I disagree with is you saying SPOM stomps Goku, SPOM has no feats, until he gets feats Goku would win. Goku always has access to all of his forms, excluding Ultra Instinct. This is composite Superman, meaning all feats are allowed. (That are actually Superman, unlike Thought Robot, or that are canon and quantifiable, unlike All Star)
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Strength - Supes has collided fists with supesboy prime and shattered reality in infinite crisis .
His Reaction speed is much slower than his moving speed . Her was able to react to the Flash and Reverse Flash .
Reverse Flash -https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
The Flash - https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights.
His best vision is super hot being able to reignite a star -https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
and has sealed tears in the universe with his heat vision . Can't find the scan for that one .
He's and Diana slowed down the speed of spectre falling . Spectre is literally the embodiment of the universe . https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
Part one
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Could you give me a scan for the first one please, I was under the impression Superboy-Prime would f*ck regular Superman.
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Part two
Supes has destroyed a Destroyed ship (shop used by the monitors. They also shot reality warping missiles at him) https://m.imgur.com/a/voGE9
Thanks a blast from booster gold https://m.imgur.com/UFfcDoM
Withstands freaking DEATH https://m.imgur.com/a/WZjjT
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Scan for him repairing reality https://i.imgur.com/qa9CHtW.jpg
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Here is the scan for him colliding https://www.bing.com/images/detail/search?pc=FOWI&form=AMZNS1&iss=sbi#enterInsights
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
Goku vs Superman
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Superman Did i win?
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Damnit, the scan isn't working, either way, Superman, along with Power Girl And the Lantern Corps, got bitched by Superboy-Prime. Also, I will continue this debate in the morning, goodnight.
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Goodnight bruh . I'm unstoppable now 😈
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Hell no you didn't win! This debate is FAR from over. 😉
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Hehehe. Can't wait til @Daniel sees the new @MoP. I'm a way better debater . Maybe I can debate them or ....... Possibly not 😂
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Dude, tomorrow you're going to get recked! 😜
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Also, while I'm still here, all of your scans from "Bing" aren't working :/
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman Here is the website s i got the scans from
https://www.quora.com/DC-Comics-What-are-some-of-Supermans-greatest-feats-achievements
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku Spectre is not the embodiment of the Universe, he is the Spirit of Vengeance. And they not only couldn't stop him, but he obviously doesn't have Infinite weight, if he did he would go straight through the Earth, no matter how much they stop his descent. Booster Gold is not very powerful. Withstanding Death is not impressive, Goku has survived actual existence erasure, not just death. Repairing reality is unquantifiable. Also, that website isn't working.
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Superman @Spidey are any of my feats acceptable IYO
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku No. I want comics, not out of context scans
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Strength: Goku can shake 1.5 universe size dimensions in base. He can also swap hands with Jiren, who can physically overpower time, and punch through dimensions. Goku has 4D strength, whereas Superman has, ARGUABLY, Infinite 3D strength, Goku is infinitely stronger.
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Speed: He not only has instant teleportation, but he is 4D, meaning he transcends time, meaning he has infinite speed. Although, his best actual speed feat, is scaling to Beerus who can easily travel from his palace, in the middle of a nebula, which is possibly 24 light years across, then he travels to another galaxy, which is, based off of the Milky Way, 100,000 light years, then back, so he would be traveling 70,129,221.1111x the speed of light since he travels this distance in 1 minute and 30 seconds. While this being less impressive, Beerus did this casually while suppressed, simply because he was going to get food. Whis can also travel across universes and dimensions in seconds, who Goku LOOSELY scales to, although he is slower than him. Also, Goku and Beerus can clash fists and shake the entire universe instantaneously.
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Destructive Capability: I have already proven Goku is 2,160,000x universal, 3x that with the Kamehameha.
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Lol, whoops, forgot Durability.
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Durability: Goku has tanked complete existence erasure, meaning it doesn't just destroy your physical body, it destroys your soul too. He can also tank hits from Jiren who can overpower time, and punch through dimensions. (Iirc he did)
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 28 d
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Goku .... Hello?
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman Ok . Supes Has broken carmakers arm (can't find the comic . He's held a miniature black hole which even though small still courts ripped the earth apart . He has traveled to the end of the universe back to earth in around 6 months . That faster than Doctor rates helmet which done the exact same thing in a year . so shoes was going at around twice fates elm too speed . Which was around 5 decillion times the speed of light which means he was going around ten decillion times the speed of light . He survived being sucked into a hypersize black hole and even escaped it . He survived going into the center of one while holdingbrainiac . Sorry couldnt use comics . For some reason I guess I didn't save all of them into my document 😂
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Lol, wait, who the hell is Carmaker? "Miniature" being the key word, and he was shitting himself doing it, the black hole it self would have the gravitational pull of a small planet. From the end of the universe it would only be 46.6 billion light years, if Superman did it in half a year he would only be 93.2 billion times the speed of light. Where did you get the decillions? Black holes aren't close to universal, so that doesn't really contribute to his durability, especially when going up against Goku, who is millions of times past universal. (This is the first part of my comment, next comment will be me giving you Goku's feats 😉)
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman *Darkseids arm . Black holes are actually universal ! They are able to feed off space and trancesnd time. They (if big enough) could destroy a universe .Ingot the decillions from death battle . SO....... Also he survived Omega beams >>>>>>>>>>>God Blast😉
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku If they get big enough yes they can be, but the ones Superman survived were no where near that caliber. Smh, Screw Attack is constantly wrong 🙄. Uh.... any proof? Omega Beams can be survived by Wonder Woman, the Godblast can damage Galactus (and annihilate Superman thousands of times over) I think your getting Omega Beams, confused with the ACTUAL Omega Effect.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman ManOfPower! Wants to square dance with me! SirSpidey! Wants to square dance with me! LordTracer! Wants to square dance with me! Dark Prodigy! Wants to square dance with me! Soratoumiga! Wants to square dance with me! IMABATMAN42 Won't square dance with me! IMABATMAN42 Won't square dance with me! IMABUTTMAN42 don't want no part of me! THENEMIANLION! Wants to square dance with chu! YEEEEEHAAAAAR!
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IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku I... There's.... someone else.... I'm sorry 😭
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman Wha... When did this... Huh? *Remembers Jongensoden saying "He tasted like cherry"... NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku I... I should've told you sooner :(
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman First, you take out my son, then you turn my other son into a Dolphin! Now you do this? What did I ever do to you? I'm going to get you Shark Slayer!
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku I'M SORRY!! 😭
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Dcfan123 1 y 11 mo 17 h 7 m
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Superman Imabatmanfan42 there will never be a true answer this fight will go on for ever YouTube says goku wins the internet says Superman it only ends we're it begins so this fight is pointless until some fine a one true answer.
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ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman Alright bro I'm leaving see you in a few (maybe more) hours
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Alright? But this debate is not over.... 👋
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 11 mo 1 d
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Goku I want to end this once and for all, someone debate me, pls.
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ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman I've researched shoes a lot and I'm ready @Bats
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Finally! Fite me!
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku You must've found a lot of info on "shoes" XD
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman Yes . Also I'm moving around my house so I'll be off an on . But you first
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Wait, we need to make a few rules:
1. The anger that we get here can't be taken to real life or other places on this site
2. First to admit defeat loses
3. Whoever loses must vote for the actual winner (Goku/Superman)
4. Morals off
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Do you agree with these?
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman I want to fight you irl... XD
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku I'm a pacifist... I'LL VERBALLY DESTROY YOU, THOUGH
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman Ok bro . I agree with everyone except Morals off . Supes will literally kill goku in a matter of seconds
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku I disagree. Superman is both not fast enough and not powerful enough to one-shot Goku.
ManofPower
ManofPower 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Superman No.... Definitely not a one shot . But if they are both blood listed supes wins rather easily . But not a stomp
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku No possible way, Superman isn't capable of doing that to a Multiverse buster, jut to get this out of the way, I'll do it now. Goku with his God Form, is roughly 1.5x universal as he and Beerus threatened to destroy 3 universe size dimensions, then he absorbs that power into his base, then after training he gets roughly 3x stronger, making him 4.5x universal. After that the multipliers of SS1, 2, and 3, add up to 400x that, which is 1,800x universal. Then SSB, which makes him unquantifiably stronger, but let's say 10x to low ball, so that would make him 18,000x universal, then with Kaioken x20 it makes him 20x stronger, so 360,000x universal. Last but not least Ultra Instinct, which is probably a 6x multiplier, he was getting fondeled by a suppressed Jiren, then he fondled Jiren, so at least 6x, so, 2,160,000x universal. (3x that with the Kamehameha)
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Uh, hello?
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 1 y 10 mo 29 d
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Goku Ready?
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racoleman1 1 y 11 mo 9 d
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Superman Superman would win. Also Goku's intelligence should be much lower.
Mohamed
Mohamed 1 y 11 mo 18 d
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Superman I Vote Superman.
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IAmNomad 1 y 11 mo 28 d
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not voted Goku - 23
Superman - 28
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Superman Wins
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Squish 8 mo 1 d
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Goku Lol superman doesn't have limits bunch of b.s. Google all of Superman's defeats and it's a lot of them. Plus you get to see his limits.

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