The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification.
What it DOESN'T mean
This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight.
How is this calculated
( INT^1.3 + (STR*0.5 )^2 + (SPE*0.5)^2 + DUR^1.6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1.8 ) ^ TIER
Super Power Score and Level
Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation.
strength:thor(superman lifting the motherboxes does not make him planetary, WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT, it has the power to destroy planets but doesn't mean it takes planet level strength to pull them apart. Thor strength is large moon to small planet. so superman is probably the same or less than thor.
speed:thor. before yall kill me look, ok flash when travelling in snydercut is less faster than light, the trucks in the slowed down scene were still moving, so he is travelling 60 times faster than the trucks at least, for something to look frozen to you, your reflexes ae around sound to FTS. if we say the truck falls at 100mph, flash is moving at around mach 10, he is trying to save the girls life so hes probably at like 70% of his speed. so lets say flash using like 30- 50 % his power still that means him using 100% travels around mach 35~ so superman would be travelling mach 30~.Thor could travel as fast as lightning and that travels mach 300, boom thor is faster :) if we use the feat where superman travels to earths atmosphere in seconds that still puts his speed at like mach 10~.
Durability:thor, superman nuke feat is overused, so what if he was depowered by kryptonite? superman feat would put him at large town level while thors star feat would put him at large country which is thousands of times more impressive than a town feat.
Int:superman
AP:thor, he could penetrate thanos skin which is around planetary. superman can barely put down zod with all his punches who was not even country.
exp:thor
weapons:thor
biq:thor
agility:superman by a bit
travel speed:thor, this is beyond beliefs on how much thor destroys, he could travel millions of meters in seconds with bifrost while superman could barely keep up with a mach 40 flash.
abilities:superman
power:thor, superman power is around country to continent, ww is around 2 times weaker than stephen wolf while he shows small country feats, superman destroys him so he around continental which is as much as like 15 small countries. thors power tho is moon-small planetary which is way above continental.
conclusion? Thor wins mid diff
Thor definitely does better against superman when he is wielding stormbreaker and may land some good blows and take superman by surprise with his lighting, however superman is just too powerful and quick. In endgame, if superman was against Thanos instead of Thor I’m sure it would’ve been a different story!
Superman: mid diff 8/10
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I see a lot of comparisons between Thor and superman when it comes to speed and strength and there are always different answers. I personally prefer Thor as I don’t like how the character of superman is given every super power and is just too overpowered. He literally almost beat flash in a race and creates shock waves when he punches.
I still stand by superman winning and being OP.
Also when have we seen Thor travel at light speed?
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speed : superman is way faster than thor and kept up with flash
durability : superman survived being directly hit by a nuke that is 100 times hoter than neutron star and especially small blast from it. so supermans durability is at least 100 times greater than thor durability
weapons : obvious
skill : obvious
power : supermans heat vision easly cut true steppenwolfs skin and armour, he can easly lift tectonic plates
abilities : superman have super streingth, speed, durability, enchanted inteligence, heat vision, cold breath, microscopic vision, infinite stamina and some more (more than thor have)
how battle woud go : thor wont attack superman at least once bcs of his speed so winner shoud be obvious.
WINNER : SUPERMAN
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strength: superman: superman was ablesplit the motherbox
durabilty: 100000percent superman: all of you thor fanboys saying he "tanked" a dying star while superman survived a nuke with ease which is around 180 times stronger also superman was unhinged by the nuke while thor literaly died if it wasnt for groot
speed: superman obvious
weapons: thor obvious
battle iq: thor is a skilled warior that has had many battles
iq: superman (kryptonions can learn things in a matter of seconds)
reflexes: superman: superman reacted to the flash
experinece: thor has lived for 1500 years and was more battle experience
abbilties: superman has heat vision, super hearing, flight, ice breath, x ray vision etc
power: thor gets more powerfull the angrier he is
winner: superman: mid diff
superman actauly trying: no diff
As I guess your point is that Superman is more durable, because he tanked a nuke like it was nothing while Thor struggled tanking 30 Billion times larger explosion. So in the same logic you are more durable than Galactus, because nothing happens to you when a drop of water falls on you while And Galactus is hurt by some cosmic attacks 💀
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Iron man's and Jane's case is not related to this case, because there is another profile for Pre-awakened Thor
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it's true that Hela cut Thor's eye with knife while Steppenwolf did no damage to Superman with his axe, but we should assume that Hela's knife was enhanced by magic, because Bifröst did no damage to Thor but chopped dragon's head like it was nothing.
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Durability and Invulnerability are not the same, even more it is not even aspect of Durability.
For example Hulk is way more durable than Vision who is Invulnerable to punches, bullets ... etc
so pushing back does not depreciates character's durability.
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I think that Thor takes this battle, because he has larger destructive capacity and operates in higher tiers.
wake up to reality
truth : thor's reflexes are faster than light. superman's speed would only help him run from thor
2.DURABILITY THOR
3.SPEED SUPERMAN
4.WEAPONS THOR
5.ABILITY SUPERMAN
6.COMBAT THOR
7.POWERS SUPERMAN
8.EXPERIENCE THOR
9.IQ SUPERMAN
10.BATTLE IQ THOR
11.STAMINA SUPERMAN
12.POWERFUL THOR
13.HEALING ( BOTH HAVE HEALING FACTOR)
14.ENDURANCE THOR
15.FEATS THOR
16.ATTACK POTENTIAL THOR
10-7
THOR>SUPERMAN
HIGH DIFFFF
Speed: Superman, but considering Thor's lightning that emits out of Stormbreaker, which might catch up to Superman, but it won't damage Supes much. Don't take Thor for granted though, he reacted quick enough to Quicksilver in bullet time and he's only improved since then.
Durability: Well, it's Superman actually. Thor's feat of tanking a neutron star is good, but Superman would survive that and gain a crap ton more power. Jane Foster as a human slapped Thor and Thor was showing that he felt it. Superman didn't even flinch when Steppenwolf hit him.
Combat: Thor, around 1,000 years in training, that's saying something
Power: With Stormbreaker, I believe Thor takes a W in power, since he overpowered the IG (MCU)
Overall, I think Thor could beat Superman 4 or 5 out of 10 times if he can land a hit on Supes.
Striking strength hit hulk with a blast what caused an earthquake and made a shockwave as big as an house he's also sent people flying like when him and iron man fought and thor headbutt him and he went flying threw a forest or the time in age of ultron when he destroyed a city with one blow or the time he threw a ravenger millions of miles behind him winner thor
Durability thor has survived punches from hulk ultron thanos ironman and even survived full blast of a star also survived a city destroying explosion and the odin spear to chest with no scratches winner thor
Speed thor has dodged thanos even whilst being fat whilst the same thanos who can catch Carol who can fly at faster then light speeds winner superman by the tiniest bit
Skill thor by 1500 yrs of experience winner thor
Stop being stupid kid thor wins with ease
And for superman the world engine couldn't even destroy a tiny piece of the city whilst it was active for minutes world engine is fodder and that nuke did nothing to doomsday whilst superman died and in what iff? Thor tanked hits from Carol who had punch force of 10 nukes and didn't get a scratch and still clapped her with ease after sending her flying to a different continent with a punch and this is mcu Canon part of multiverse whilst superman can't hit zod past a house without multiple punches thor has also destroyed a meteor with a punch and jane foster said that in what iff so feats>>>ur fanboying he also helped destroy ultron infinity who destroyed watcher and destroyed multiverse with one bite he also lit up america with his lightning and superman has died 3 times 1st by doomsday second by nuke and the sun resurrected him 3rd snyder cut when boxes went off and thor hasn't died once superman is fodder thor is stronger it also took 4 kriptonians to destroy part of city whilst thor destroyed a city in his weakest form with one punch
I saw rotten corpses in a better state
Strength: Superman
Speed: Superman
Durability: Thor by a bit
Power: Thor close
Abilities: Superman
Skill: Thor
Experience: Thor
IQ:Superman
Battle IQ: Thor
In Conclusion Superman is just to quick for thor and stronger so he can use that to his advantage which makes it easy to beat thor IMO.
Durability: thor very close
Speed: Superman not very close
Power: thor close
Abilites: Superman
Skill: thor
Attack potency: thor
Experience: thor
Battle iq: thor
Scaling: thor
The handle is enhanced by magic. Thanos' uru helicopter blade could not damage it.
Thor more durable faster and stronger than superman
Thor react destroy beam in marvel beam equal speed of light means Thor reflexes faster than speed of light
1. Scaling is important, but not everything.
2. Both have city-mountain level destructive capacity, and planetary attack potency.
3. Thor is not star level 💀
Until Thor gets better speed feats, he’s getting statued by supes.
Superman wins 6/10
And if Thor does get speed feats in love and thunder, yes, he wins.
I am saying the 50 and the 35% energy wasn't a factor to him. The 15% of radiation got to him. It knocked out the solar energy in his body. This explanation is logical because we see no burn Marks on superman. A d radiation has far higher penetrative capabilities than regular heat.
Combat speed= superman 3-6x faster, because again, thor has blitzed hela multiple times, and hela dodges, and blocks lightning from point blank ranges
Thor:
The Russo's confirmed that Thor could only cut through the blast of the infinity stones because of Etri's magic allowed it so, we can still consider that a feat because it has that ability to negate the affects of the gauntlet. It could only scale however to a Planetary Blast at best. It is shaky to consider it. Also, this doesn't make Thor Planetary. Then comes Thor's best feat which is taking the full force of a neutron star which isn't really equal to the force of creating or destroying a star but, however the amount of energy has been calculated to be Small Country to Island level in durability, meaning he was getting hit with 855 gigatons of force from the star. However Thor did lift and move the rings of Nidavellir which is the size of a small moon. Again that doesn't make him Small Moon level. He did destroy a whole city and survive the blast but, he had the help of Iron Man to destroy the city with his repulsors. Thor mortally wounded Thanos will Strombreaker and Thanos can take hits from Captain Marvel, Enhanced Captain America, and can survive the stones combined. He did take a surge of the power stone but Thanos wasn't really trying to kill Thor so he was only applying only a little bit of force. To calculate the force this was I decided to divide the power of the stone and I came up with that this was at least Large Island level. P.S. you have to remember that Stormbreaker was made to negate the Gauntlets abilities and only the gauntlets so, it doesn't mean if Thor hits him with the mighty ax then Thor will win.
Superman:
Superman could move a tectonic plate in seconds and the measurement of strength you would need to move a tectonic plate is 24 quintillion tons aka country level strength. In order for his strength to be that his durability would also have to be that or greater so, Superman for durability ranks up to Country to Large Country in durability. Superman took a nuke to the face while out of the suns rays and managed to survive to see another day. Nukes have the power to destroy mountains (Just one alone). He did beat the JL and matched up to be MHS and actually faster than Flash in the JL movie even beating Wonder Women which was known to be Superman's equal before his resurrection.
So really Superman wins due to his amazing Speed, Durability, and Strength. Thor does have his abilities of Super Strength, Has good durability, can manipulate weeather, create himself a lightning cloak, and his weapon Stormbreaker which can summon the bifrost. However, Superman's abilities and feats of Strength, Speed, Durability, and his Powers such as Heat-Vision, Flight (Thor has as well), His Super Breath, and his Cryokinetic Breath are greater. Thor does have better striking strength but, Superman's durability counters that along with his speed. Stormbreaker was also meant to counter the Gauntlets abilities only and just the Gauntlets. You also have to remeber that when Flash is fighting Superman Flash and the lightning coming out of flash seem super slow to him so, even hitting him could be almost impossible for Thor, Hulk, or Captain Marvel. Someone like Doctor Strange or Wanda could beat him cuz Magic is his weakness after all. Also Celestial Powered Star-Lord can too due to his Molecular and Matter Manipulation.
So Superman is Victorious!!!
Superman has better lifting strength and speed
Striking and lifting strength are completely 2 different things
Thor also has better attack potency
Tanking the force of a neutron star
Lifting the forges of nidavellir
Destroying a whole city
Surviving the blast after destroying the city
Cutting through a fully powered infinity gauntlet blast
Easily changing the tide of the wakanda battle
Destroying the rainbow bridge with one lighting strike
Mortally wounding thanos
Defeating a being with the reality stone
Surging the power stone to His skull
Surviving the power stone blast
Superman’s feats:
Tanking a nuke to the face
Holding up an oil rig
Single Handedly beating the justice league
Holding/ shifting a tectonic plate
So fast that he escaped a black hole
Based off of feats,
Thor has better durability (not even debatable)
Superman has more lifting strength
Thor has more striking strength
Superman is faster (not even debatable)
If Thor can get a hit with stormbreaker, he can most likely win, but supermans speed is an excellent counter to that.
I don’t know who wins,l.
But other than that thor has stormbreaker which can mortally wound or kill superman. But thor has to be able to hit him. Which I believe he won't be. Seriously flash in the Canon JL wasn't able to touch him. How is thor going to do that??
Thor's neutron star feat is calc at Multi-continital - small country level
Supes only took a fraction of the nuke since DD was there he absorbed most of the nuke's KE/blast because DD can absorb energy it's why he got more powerful
"This thing seems to feed on energy" ~ WW
Saying their durability is comparable is just laughable
Neutron stars are the most extreme objects in the universe (besides black holes), but yellow stars (like our sun) are completely different and way less extreme.
That neutron star would kill superman because there was no yellow dwarf to see (near it) which automatically makes him weak.
Superman’s nuke feat is nothing compared to tanking a star, there’s no doubt in my mind about that.
But every other category is arguable (except speed) supermans stomps In speed
A neutron star is a solar system destroying object, that feat is at least multi planetary
And @ICVonDoom superman's face was still exposed to the nuke. He still had to endure the heats and the Force to his face. But we see no burn marks or wounds. Because the Force and heat was no factor to him. The radiation was as I said before. And thpr took the heat of the star for about a minute. Superman took the heat of the nuke for a few seconds. But the amount of heat superman took per seconds was far far higher than the heat thor took. Because of the details of the star.
getting hit by the nuke is a 1 second impact, whereas Thor survived the neutron star for 40 seconds (screen time)
And the one second impact is the reason nothing happened to superman. Think of it like lightning in real life. Getting struck by 300 million volts is supposed to kill a human being, but most people survive because the impact is only 1 second
Escaping a black hole would mean that you have to travel at ftl speeds.
And, even a black hole that it the size of 100 water molecules would eat up the earth in a matter of seconds.
That is a speed feat, and isn’t very impressive
Tanking the force of a neutron star
Lifting the forges of nidavellir
Destroying a whole city
Surviving the blast after destroying the city
Cutting through a fully powered infinity gauntlet blast
Easily changing the tide of the wakanda battle
Destroying the rainbow bridge with one lighting strike
Mortally wounding thanos
Defeating a being with the reality stone
Surging the power stone to His skull
Surviving the power stone blast
Superman’s feats:
Tanking a nuke to the face
Holding up an oil rig
Single Handedly beating the justice league
Holding/ shifting a tectonic plate
So fast that he escaped a black hole
Based off of feats,
Thor has better durability (not even debatable)
Superman has more lifting strength
Thor has more striking strength
Superman is faster (not even debatable)
I don’t know who wins.
>Then tanks the full force of neutron star for almost a minute. Greater durability feat than superman
>Stormbreaker will killSuperman.
>Thor is a magical being/magic user. One of superman's weakensse: Magic
>Strikes harder if he amps his striking with lightning.
>Pre-awkened Thor can keep with MHS Quicksilver after awekening his powers he can kee- up with lightning timer Hela.
> Supes is obvy faster but not by a huge margin
>Lightning armor counters superman's speed because if he gets close to Thor lightning will zap him back
Obviously stronger
More durable
Stormbreaker will kill superman.
Stormbreaker negates full Infinity gauntlet blast.
Superman is obviously faster. He can keep up with the flash who's MHS - relivestic
Thor's lightning/lightning clock is a good counter to superman's speed.
Loki survived the blast in the thor movie. So it is also not impressive.
Now in Loki series we found out the that classic loki survived the ship explosion in IW in his timeline. So that wasn't impressive as well.
And thor blowing up the outsider dropships is dwarfed by Superman blowing up the world engine. The atmosphere around the world engine was kryptonian and the central beam was putting immeasurable pressure on Superman. But superman still destroyed it. So World Engine>>>Outrider Dropship .
And superman shifted a tectonic plate. That dwarfes the rings of nedevallir. Superman is stronger.
And superman is way faster than Lightning. He can reach the speed of light.also thor lightning doesn't Home towards a target. Also don't be confused by flashes lightning. Those aren't normal lightning. Those are speed force lightning. They become as fast as Flash as seen in Snyder cut.
I am not denying Stormbreaker's power. But throwing it towards superman is useless. Superman can easily dodge it. Also you can't actually tell how powerful was the blast from the infinity gauntlet. And loki is definitely not as durable as thor. Loki's durability < Thor's durability
Iron man was under sokovia. He tanked a small portion of the blast
Thor was at the dead centre of the sokovia explosion
MEANING Iron man only tanked a portion of it.
I think you just can't cope with the fact that Thor is more durable than superman IMO.
You know who else survived that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEN3IIH2wek
Those weird sorcerers people dressed in black. They should be planet level too xDDD.
This neutron star blast did not contain any force? Not only because it was stated "full force of a star". But also because you can see a shockwave come off of it.
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smh
The neutron star blast created giant shockwave. So it must have contained force. You mean the same fodder engine that can only flatten cars & destroy several buildings? ok sure...
Lightning/ Lightning shield/clock will counter Thor's speed
Thor also has stormbreaker... It will slice superman in half.
and again I really dont beleive that you said thor is stronger than superman which really really made me laugh out loud, Supermans punches fling people back several meters including people like wonder woman,cyborg and more and wonder woman and cyborg have one of the best durabilites ever. and if you saw when superman fought the flash lightning was pretty slow and it touched superman and supes didnt even notice it. and no stormbreaker would not even put a scratch on superman including that superman didnt even flinch after being hit by stepphen wolfs gigantic axe, thor on the other hand got stabbed by a small dagger by loki.
Strength Thor >>> superman
Experience Thor >>> superman
Any thing Thor above superman but superman speed very op and faster than Thor superman speed around 3000 mach and thor speed 2000 mach Thor the dark world mjoiner only 3 second go in Space cnyder cut superman 3 go in Space so I think speed no advantage for superman and thor easily beat even mcu ironman can beat
Striking Strength: Thor > Superman
Durability: Thor > Superman
Speed: Superman > Thor
Experience: Thor > Superman
Thor CAn beat malekith with either and thor insult either 😂😂 this same either Odin say he infinite destruction
Experience ironman
Speed superman
Strength equal
Strike ironman so how superman can beat ironman
Experience: iron man, I guess
Speed: Superman by a lot
Strength: Superman. Superman has lifted a tectonic plate. Iron man has never showed any strength feats that are even close to that
Strike: Superman. Every time he punches, he creates shockwaves
How the fight will go: Superman speed blitz and kills iron man before iron man can even think
Thor have more feats than superman
I'm listing superman's
Superstrength
Superspeed
Flight
Invulnerability
Heat vision
Super hearing...
Thor has superstrength, invulnerability - to some extent and what... he can fly and use lightning when he's with mjolnir or stormbreaker... without these weapons what can Thor do exactly
1. Super strength.
2. Super Speed.
3. Heat Vision.
4. X-ray vision.
5. Freeze breath.
6. Super hearing.
7. Telescopic vision.
8. Super scream.
9. Invulnerability.
These appeared in the DCEU. There are some others that I didn't mention. Pick any of them. I can tell you where exactly he used those.
that was kinda funny ngl
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-always-try-to-justify-DCEU-Superman-dying-from-a-nuke-strike-but-bad-mouth-Thor-for-almost-dying-from-taking-the-full-power-of-a-star-which-is-highly-more-impressive-Supes-fought-Batman-while-Thor.
The neutron star was also an inaccurately made. Because the gravitational pull of a neutron star should be highest after black holes. But the that neutron star didn't have that strong gravity because rocket was quite okay around it. So thor only took on the heat. Which was actually way less than the nuke in BVS. And again supes endured the world engine. People underrate it. The world engine was changing the damn worlds mass,gravity and weather. And the central beam had incalculable pressure also the weather was like krypton and still superman flew against the beam and destroyed the engine.
I found out that a newly formed neutron star could be up to 1 trillion degrees, but as I recall the one in Nidavellir was rather old, which is when the temperature drops down to 1 million degrees, which is actually not as hot as the center of our sun (15 million degrees K). However, I think that at those temperatures, the light emitted is in the X-ray range, and therefore invisible to humans (the visible light we see from our sun is in the photosphere and is only around 10,000 degrees K.). And the light from the neutron star thor endure was not just visible but it was bright like the sun. So it is even less hotter.
https://www.quora.com/What-was-a-more-impressive-feat-Thor-surviving-a-blast-from-a-neutron-star-In-Avengers-Infinity-War-or-Superman-escaping-the-pull-of-a-black-hole-in-Man-of-Steel. And the neutron star was not just dying but also very small. So the energy emition was even lower.
And when he punches someone he pushes his entire body forward ,ig
You are saying it's dramatic. That totally unfair and illogical. Superman is supposed to the the most powerful being on planet earth.
Just because someone flys doesn't necessarily mean he would hit harder. Why do you think so??
Thor survived the Neutron star for more than a minute. Listen to Thor and Eitri's conversation in Infinity War.
"How long will it take to hold it open?"
"A few minutes. Maybe more. Why?"
"I'll hold it open."
"That's suicide."
And yes, if it has to do with the fact that Kurse has "ragdolled" Thor with that at there time he hadn't yet discovered his powers 100%, I explain you, the characters in the MCU have an, let's say evolution, So if Thor when he fought Kurse had had the same level that he demonstrated in ragnarok, right now you wouldn't be talking about it, would you? XD, ''what version of the Endgame did you watched? because this sounds like a porn'' I saw the version where when Thor and Thanos were with their respective weapons struggling and it was seen when Thor disarmed easily Thanos with the Stormbreaker, that was the porn r*pe we all saw... the Antony's quote It was only for the directors to get on well with the character, please, be more analytical than that, Thor was 5 damn years getting drunk and untrained, even Tony told him that he wasn't fit and that was more than clear, plus, Thor didn't "take" Thanos by surprise (you are just using the cheap excuse that many use to undo such feat), it was clearly seen that Thanos put on an expression of effort while literally attacking the Stormbreaker without success, no It wasn't a surprise, Thanos was simply humiliated. ''Thor gets hurt by Loki's dagger'' yes, this dagger was also made of Uru (it didn't come from Asgard!?), also Thor isn't that he was affected much by that stab, as you saw, he immediately got up completely healed. ''he bullrushed Doomsday in full speed causing a massive explosion'' also it saw how Superman put Doomsday in front of the nuclear bomb literally using him as a shield lol, and still ended up as a mummy later.
https://www.quora.com/Could-DCEU-Superman-withstand-punches-from-the-Hulk-and-a-blast-from-a-neutron-star-like-MCU-Thor-did
And here
https://www.quora.com/Could-a-neutron-star-kill-Superman
I have checked some other sites they say the same. Neutron will only make supes stronger. And kryptonian atmosphere just being a bit dense?? Are you srious dud you not see what kryptonian gravity did to metropolis combine than to the much harsh atmosphere. And about the axe . Thor is again ridiculously dependent on the axe yes it blocked the energy blasts from the gauntlet. But just because he hit thanos doesn't mean he could do the same to supes. He is too damn fast. He is even faster than lightning.
Superman>> Thor
Durability
Superman>>Thor
Speed
Superman>>>Thor(Undeniably)
Combat
Thor>>Superman(won't help much because of supes speed)
For a moment believing that thor is stronger than supes but why did he bother fighting with iron man in avengers, kurse in thpr dark world, ultron in age of ultron.
Ans Supes creates shockwaves in fights . Thor can't take supes punches. Supes can dodge thor axe and lightning and fly faster.
And almost forgot the size of the star has everything to do with power. Bigger the star the more energy,light,heat it emits. It basic knowledge
During the Silver Age, the answer is "doesn't happen absolutely nothing".
In "Action Comics" #376, the Anti-Superman Gang has a contest of sorts, initiating four attempts on Superman's life. One attempt involved an ultra-sonic attack on his superhearing. Superman's solution was definitely outside-the-box ... all the way to a white dwarf star.
This was what happened when Supes and a "neutron star" met, as you see Superman didn't get stronger (neither in comics nor in movies) and I show what I affirm with real evidence.
Also, Doomsday was the one who took most of the damage from the bomb, Superman was affected by collaterality and still he ended up like a mummy after x2.
Thor ragnarok was an absurd comedy, they shocked Thor with a high voltage device, made him look ridiculous many times... Thanos WANTED to get rid of the Thor's axe, keep an eye on his battle again please and you will notice when Thanos puts an expression of effort on his face as he shotting to the Stormbreaker and when he nearly died, he preferred to do the job once and for all so as not to risk him. If Loki's dagger came from Asgard it's most likely from Uru, it's the metal they use the most there and by the way, it was the same type of dagger with Loki was about to kill Thanos in IW, if not by Thanos' broad reflections. Yes, the Kryptonian atmosphere is devastating, I understand, but it was still ridiculous to say that Thor (god residing in Asgard, a higher dimension) wouldn't resist that. It's also ridiculous to think that after seeing what happened in Ragnarok Thor is "ridiculously dependent" on his weapons, I didn't expected you to tell that, the truth. Superman could be very fast but he isn't faster than the Stormbreaker or the Mjolnir, I assure you.
@Toreno Just look at 0:09 and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say ''Thor disarmed easily Thanos with the Stormbreaker'' lol, implorate to yourself rewatch the scene from the fight next time, be intertaining, but don't take it so literal either 🤣🤣.
Thor IW (+ Mjolnir) >> Superman.
Already said that white dwarf and all other stars give them different properties. Only the red sun makes them weak. If dwarf star can give them power a neutron star can also do that. Cause they aren't thst different.
The color of the star determine what they will do to supes. And the neutron star was bright. So supes gets amped. And the neutron star feat is vastly overrated. The full force of a star my foot. Taking the full force of a star would mean absorbing it all which thor didn't do. He only took part of it. The rest energy fired the forge.
So, Superman is faster than Thor, I don't deny that, but Superman will not be in constant movement, at some point he will have to stop to strike, right? It's not a race, it's a fight to death and speed is not all it takes to win, Thor was able to keep a equalized struggle with THANOS! that same Thanos who easily took himself the hands off a Hulk that lifted all the collapse of a building as it saw in Endgame!! And Superman hasn't demonstrated such a feat of strength that I can remember.
Resistance: Thor >> Superman
Strength: Thor > Superman
Speed: Superman >> Thor (big advantage)
Skill: Thor >>> Superman
Feats: Thor >> Superman.
@Toreno It's very stupid to invent that Thanos ''let fall'' the sword to handle Thor lol, clearly it was seen how Thor was leading the struggle taking him down and Thanos was making a great effort, Thor took the sword off from him but, Thanos took the advantage for his skill, Oh please, Thanos with one hand held against Thor while in another take Thanos was trying with all his might to kill Thor without success (using both hands, curious) 0:28 , not to mention that Thor was in an unfavorable position and still was able to hold his hand to hand long enough until Captain America helped him.
The Juan de Fuca Plate is the smallest of earth's tectonic plates. It is approximately 250,000 square kilometers . You are proving that thors durability maybe higher but not strength or speed. Superman could hold the star open for sure. And i know it isn't comics. But the star was shining yellowinsh white. It would definitely amp him. The russo brothers didn't make the star acurate. An neutron star doesn't glow like that. They almost made it like a regular star. Supermans strength feats are higher and speed feats are too. And durability is still arguable. And I am not trying to make Thor look like a loser . He is my favourite hero from MCU. And i don't conssider thanos and hulk close to Prime Thor and Supes. Thery both are far weaker than Prime Thor and Superman. I just saw the neutron star scenes. Superman could shift the rings and hold the the star open and even if the star doesn't amp him it would have no bad effect on him. Cause it isn't red. Amd Tyrell was refering to himself and supes. Cause he was from the same star system superman was from. He was talking about him supes in comics. The movies atleast try to keep the basic fiction details same.
Strength
Superman>>Thor
Resistence
Superman>>Thor
Skill
Thor>Superman
Feats
Superman>Thor
Combat
Thor>Superman
I may have used some bad language so i apologise for that
@RajinKabir I don't agree. First of all, Thor does have Super Speed. If you've been paying attention, Thor blocked a blast from Loki which reached the top of a mountain in less than a second. He was able to understand Quicksilver's movement and actually able to keep him off his feet. He also traveled far distances in Wakanda destroying ship-to-ship.
Combat, Experience, Skill:
Thor > x 1500 Superman | Thor is 1,500 years old. He has fought for a really long time and has more experience than Superman. I just wanted to point that out. I disagree with almost everything there.
Durability:
Thor >>> Superman | Neutron Star is far above a Nuclear bomb. Superman was near to death when hit from it. Although Thor was as well, he has Stormbreaker, which has the power to revive Thor.
And don't say because it was fat thor. Because even thor being fat won't make him less durable. His 5 year old bad diet and no training will only effect his strength and skill not his durability. Thats weird.
So first, what makes you think that neutron star was smaller than average? where was it said to be? I admit that it was dying and that was mentioned, but nowhere was it said that it was smaller, I agree with you in some things, but in others I have to refute it to you.
@Dusk_Pikachu is right, Thor didn't hold only 1 minute, minimum he did hold it +3 minutes!! remember what Eitri said (dwarf experienced in forging weapons and the same guy who forged Thanos' gauntlet) he said: it will take a few minutes, maybe more and those "a few minutes" were neither one nor two, they did some cuts on the scenes cuz they will not show the 3 minutes entire and that's obvious, so as Dusk said This means that Thor resisted the heat of the star at point-blank range for more than 3 minutes (minimum), even though Superman is resistant, he's not indestructible either and we will see if he doesn't bleed or flinch when he fights Darkseid (I hope he will enter the DCEU honestly), and Darkseid is more or less on the same level as Thanos.
Second, the special effects and collateral damage that the DCEU implements doesn't work the same as that of the MCU, that's a good thing about DC and a bad thing about the MCU that I have to highlight,
The MCU isn't very specialist working that aspect as much as DC but, Sups because he causes shock waves with his fists, does he have more force than Thanos just because Thanos doesn't have the same collateral effect? The Mad Titan is so strong that he broke the unbreakable Cap's shield made of Vibranium with his sword, with his fists he easily destroyed Tony's resistant nanotechnological armor and even wounded him before doing it, so don't talk about Thanos' blows making to bleed Thor as if that guy's attacks were little. Superman is faster than Thor and I recognized that, but I do not agree with you saying that Thor does not have super speed, when it was seen that he could fly at a great speed WITH NO WEAPON in IW when he was activating the star rings, it also showed in ragnarok, how he reached a surprising speed when he was being chased by a fire dragon, or when he was destroying ship by ship in IW, Thor is not slow and I am almost sure that in his next movie (Love and Thunder) Marvel will give Thor a nice speed feat as it should be.
Superman fights on Earth, it's normal to cause so much devastation when he fights, Thor has fought in more hostile and rigid environments than Earth (Asgard, Hell, Sakaar, Jotunheim...) and causes devastation too.
I also don't agree that Mjolnir is "slower" than Superman and that Sups easily dodges it, bro Odin when he banished Thor he sent the Mjolnir directly to Midgard and it just took a few seconds to arrive in! and it wasn't through the Byfrost, Odin threw the hammer and it pierced through space and dimension reaching Midgard, it means that Mjolnir can reach speeds much higher than that of light in the MCU, Super nor jokingly would reach that speed in the movies, I highly doubt it.
Thor defeated Surtur without much difficulty, defeating the Destroyer which the directors said they would do it as close to comics as possible, he almost killed Thanos, then he killed him ... Thor definitely beats Superman in feats, at least for now.
Superman is really powerful and his battles are incredible, I really love how this Superman is right now at the DCEU (although they exaggerated it a bit in The JL), but Thor has 1500 years of experience from all points of view, he said he has defeated enemies the DOUBLE of powerful than Thanos and in Endgame didn't end with him because Thor was in the worst possible condition, rivaled in strength with him on several occasions and already told you about the strength of the Mad Titan, broke the BYFROST...
There are so many feats that I will just keep putting my money on Thor over and over ...
Anyway, you know that I still admire you, if at any time you were offended by what I said, really sorry, this has been one of the best debates I have had in a long time and I thank you for that :)
This is my final verdict, it's not my intention to make you change your mind about the result because I know I will not achieve it, but at least I have already stated my reasons
Resistance: Thor >> Superman
Force: Thor > Superman (might still be debatable)
Speed: Superman >> Thor
Experience and Skill: Thor >>> Superman
Feats: Thor >> Superman (Sups is still young at DCEU, he yet has a long way to go).
https://www.quora.com/How-strong-is-DCEU-Superman
And we have google to know about the average radius or diameter of neutron stars. And honestly you don't have much proof that would make Tho more stronger or has more resistence. Only the durability is arguable. And i told you thor has traning but so did steppenwolf. But because of supes's superior speed and strength steppenwolf couldn't do anything. It would be same for thor
Strength
Superman>>Thor
Speed
Superman>>>Thor.
Durability
Superman>Thor
Skill and combat
Thor>>Superman
Resistence
And one more thing asguardians don't use Uru at random. Only the godly weapons like Thor's hammers or odin's staff like weapons are made of Uru. Normal weapons were made of usual metals. Again Thanos wasn't just able to break cap's shield because of his superior strength but because his sword was most probably made of Uru and it was a sharp blade.
Superman>>Thor
Why is the mention of all those Supermans? We are only talking about the DCEU Superman that I remember, also, shifting a tectonic plate is not a planetary level feat, at most it would be of a continental level.
Obviously there is no evidence that directly says that Thor has more durability or strength than Sups as well as there is no evidence to the contrary, but there are the facts and with that you can tie the dots until you reach a conclusion, even if a nuclear bomb has more range, it still would never equal the power of a neutron star, it is not necessary to investigate it when it's mere logic, not even if this is a small star, as simple as that.
Yes, Steppenwolf couldn't do much against the exaggerated JL Superman, the only difference is that Steppenwolf does not have the power of lightning nor does he have faithful weapons as powerful like the Mjolnir or the Stormbreaker.
I am very happy that you admire me too, that means a lot and now that you've given me your final verdict (which was what I waited) and I've given you my's I think we could end this debate, right? Anyway, it was a pleasure :).
Thor doesn't need to have more striking strength than Superman to win, in a fight it's worth using any factor that favors you and believe me that if Thor has the Stormbreaker and the Mjolnir he will not hesitate to use them against Sups and please don't say that they wouldn't do either nothing him.
Whether you like or not, moving a tectonic plate it's not on a planetary scale and Sups hasn't yet moved a planet, while containing the 6 stones with the Stormbreaker that Thor threw with great force is of a multi-planetary scale and even more, although it wasn't seen collateral damage while it was happening, don't deny that infinity gems are at a universal level in the MCU and Stormbreaker >> gems. I hope you don't use the same cheap excuse that ''Thor caught Thanos by surprise'' that been using Toreno.
Please friend, just as I don't argue that Superman is faster than Thor and I admit it, don't do it with Thor being more durable than Superman, that was already stayed clear enough and more when Thor not only survived the neutron star, but also to the explosion of his ship when Thanos destroyed it with the power gem in IW.
Like you, it's also like a reflex to keep answering you Zz.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Superman-DCEU-stronger-than-Thor-in-Ragnarok-MCU
And Zods punches did effect him. But he shaked those off like they were nothing. They fought in metropolis. Destroyed many thing. But none of that had any lasting effect on them. And the neutron star Thor endured was a way below avarage and it was dying. But even that only proves thor durability against blunt objects and energy. And he has be cut by many times. Superman was cut by kryptonite and doomsday nothing else. The nule only drained his energy. But there was no scratch on his face or hand. Because his face and hand were still exposed to the nuke. Again i am not comparing Steppenwolf to Zod. Zod is definitely more powerful. I know what you are saying. But just because the MCu got new villains every time doesn't mean the DCEU should too. And Steppenwolf isn't the real deal. He is just the pawn. Just like loki was in Avengers. Im comparing Steppenwolf to Thor. Thor is more powerful than Steppenwolf but not faster. And i said it before and i am going to say it again tThor was stabbed by loki. And it wasn't Uru. Not all asguardian metal is Uru. Uru was only used to make godly weapons like sword,axe,hammers not little knives and daggers. We saw many asguardian metal breaking and armours getting pirced by hela. And Uru is above hela's weapons (not Hela). And you can also ask this to @Tyrannes. He also agrees. They use a neutron star to fire the forge. And if they use make little knives and daggers dont you think its a bit overkill. Thor bled when Thanos punched him a few time in endgame.
The Stormbreaker although not above the infinity gems, at least they would be on a par or just a little lower, but for the Stormbreaker to have repelled the power of something that reaches the Universal scale it cannot be only on a solar level ( for example) it has to be a minimum level a little less than the Universal (being generous). Now, I asked you and even so you did, to say that Thor took Thanos by surprise yes it's a cheap excuse, even more when you tell me that you have heard it from many people but, I thought you were more analytical than those people, tell me, Did you see the expression of effort on Thanos' face when he was trying to get rid of the ax with ALL the power of the gems without success? don't say he didn't have time to think well, when Thanos is a master at all kinds of counterattack, taking him by surprise is not enough to justify such humiliation, maybe if Thanos had used the gems in another way, MAYBE, if he had disappeared it, or whatever, but the most important thing was already seen, without tricks, without inventions, in PURE power the gems they lost against the Stormbreaker and Thanos isn't so silly like to trust himself and let that happen under his will.
The page you sent me is not impressive at all, it only shows one more person who supports just like you the man of steel and only mentions the feats of Sups saying that he is much stronger, more durable ... than Thor, but he ignores what Thor has done and the humiliating things that Batman did to Sups, it's easy for anyone to say it when you do not have someone to debate the matter, of course, also, where did that person get the information that the ship that Superman was dragging was 6375 tons? It's an invention and I am 99% sure of that, I will not give even importance to what you sent me.
That you hadn't said that Steppenwolf was no rookie? Was he an invader and was he more powerful than Zeus? for you to now change your mind and say that he is just a ''pawn'', Zod is not more powerful than Steppenwolf, clearly the mother boxes amplified Sups and my statement makes a lot of sense if you see it from some neutral point.
Sups in MoS was not strong enough to prevent Zod from killing those people and therefore had to kill him, he had no other way to stop his head.
You are right, not any weapon in Asgard is made of Uru, only godly weapons, but you also failed to say that Loki was Odin's son, worthy of the throne after Thor, he wasn't any ordinary Asgardian and if he wanted to send the dwarves to forge him a ''simple'' dagger from Uru he could do it without problems, total, he was Loki and I wouldn't be surprised by the dagger that he brought with him was made by Uru, since if it wasn't, it would not make sense that there was even hurt Thor, just think about it. I already told you about the striking strength that Thanos has.
https://gfycat.com/amp/loneflippantbasil-dceu-faora-uls-powers-and-abilities-gif.
And yes don't you think Loki was just a pawn of Thanos. So yes Steppenwolf is a pawn of Darkseid. And superman overpowering to JL is nothing suprising. Superman always holds back. It is for sure in comics. And in movies too. And when he was resurrected he was confused and he did remember much from his life. So he didn't hold back. And hell to the f**k yes Steppenwolf was far less powerful than Zod and Supes. Superman was capable of doing all that he did in JL even before he died. Those were basic superman feats. And The it is known that Steppenwolf isn't more powerful than Supes even in comics. Batman wanted to bring supes back because he could easily defeat Steppenwolf.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-you-think-Superman-was-overpowered-in-the-Justice-League-movie
There was no slightest suggestion that supes of amped in the movie. The JL's only idea was to bring him back to life. Only the people who want MCU thor to win against him would say that. And even if if he was amped. Why not count that in. Thor gets to be his prime. But Supes don't. And i agree that the weight of the ship is invented. But if you think it normally. I just learned an average weight of a cargo ship is 100000 tons. Even if you consider a far less weight. You can think 50000 tons. Again there are far bigger ones weighing 200000tons. But lets consider. 100000 or 50000 tons. Still that is really high.
https://boatinggeeks.com/how-much-does-a-cargo-ship-weigh/.
Why do you think Zod would show super speed in the fight with Zor-El. That was on Krypton. They were like humans there. And in the fight of Zod and Superman they went to space and came back in moments. And also supes shifted a tectonic plate. And the most important reason they didn't show us superspeed before JL because they didn't need to. There were no speedsters. There was Flash in JL so they had to show supermans speed.
Thor isn't as fast as Superman but his weapons yes, and you have said it, they could even kill him if they reach him.
What forceful way does Superman have to kill Thor when Thor has a incredible resistance? it will not kill him with a clean fist, while Thor has methods to kill quickly the Kryptonian.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/4025-1981/forums/please-calculate-the-weight-of-this-ship-bvs-1778791/
But superman was doing it without any struggle. I said it before and ill say it again. It is very normal for the comics superman at his usual to beat Steppenwolf easy. Than why not
in movies. Its easy. if steppenwolf was so powerful how come he was overwelmed by a group of parademons at the end. Don't deny that. Even the gods of olympus didn't do much to defeat him. amd about supes holding back. He was still learning his true capabilities in MOS. In BVS he was shown powerful. But still his shifting a tectonic plate means his true capabilities are yet to be revealed. That was shown to us in JL. Superman keeping up to flash is not a surprise. Not saying he is faster than him but it has happend in comics to. And also he was said the most powerful man in the world. He should not have problems defeating steppenwolf. In comics things may be different but in movies steppenwolf was nerfed.
Did superman do things different in JL?
Yes
Could he do that before??
Hell to the f**k yes.
In summary, I don't deny that Superman is physically superior in some respects, but Thor has many hax, he is a MAGIC being and we already know the effect that magic has on Sups in comics and possibly also in movies, the lightnings coming from magic could mortally injure him and that would make Sups rely heavily on his speed to win this, since if Sups is hit by one of Thor's godly attacks, he is likely to die, Thor can also make twisters with the Mjolnir to handle more easily sups as he did it with the Destroyer, Thor has plenty of escape routes for me to lose this, so my money is still on Thor :).
I already mentioned you the speed that Mjolnir and Stormbreaker achieve in comics, right? So can you prove that the Mjolnir has already reached its maximum speed in the MCU or that the Stormbreaker was as fast as it could be in IW? You surely can't prove it and you have no basis to claim that such weapons are slower than Sups. As I said, the Stormbreaker meets many similarities to the Mjolnir, they're practically the same and I assure you that the speed of these weapons don't work the way you just said, the Mjolnir doesn't go slower when Thor launches it, nor it goes faster when it returns back to his hand, it doesn't make sense, the Mjolnir can go as fast as required and the speed it showed in A Dark World was really higher than it showed in ragnarok (for example), it was also seen in Thor 1 as the Mjolnir came from across the city to where Thor was in very few seconds and I am completely sure that it can reach speeds much higher than that if required, just like in the comics, the SB wouldn't be the exception or yes? The SB is still young in the MCU, they just got him in, there is still more to see about this incredible weapon in Thor: Love and Thunder.
You can be sure that Thor is a magical being, maybe not entirely, but he has several aspects that come from magic just like his godly weapons
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/thor-153/is-thors-lightning-magic-537837/
And as I said, any kind of magic could be deadly to Sups and even more considering that Thor's attacks themselves are extremely devastating, did you see what a Godblast did to the invincible Hela in Ragnarok? K.O left her for a few seconds and she isn't even vulnerable to magic, the opposite, so if a Godblast of the same magnitude reaches Superman, RIP the man of steel.
Check this.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-bad-would-mcu-thors-lightning-hurt-dceu-superm-1858650/
And i think superman being vulnerable to magic is misunderstood. He is just as regular person. Magic would affects him like a regular person but he has unimaginable strength,speed,powers. And its not like thor himself is magic proof. Doctor strange made that quiet clear in Ragnarok. And DCEU superman is quiet the same that way. At least he can Tank the lighning better than Hulk did. and the godblast on hela didn't actually do anything to hela except blowing her away. Thor himself said it did nothing. But that that isn't the case. The prosess in which thor summons lightning is magic but not the lightning
https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/crisis-infinite-earths-ezra-miller-flash-cameo-dceu-arrowverse-canon-justice-league/amp/?espv=1
. That easily prover how much faster he is than QS. He is totally aware of his potential. He already knows about speed force. Flash is damn faster than QS. QS is as fast as Shazam but not faster than Flash. Barry is just a scared guy. Thats all. There is no debate there . Didn't you see how fast he was in the underground scene in JL. Everything around him was almost as a statue. QS hasn't shown something like that. But thats not the topic. And about mjolnir. It has appeared in about 5 movies give or take a couple. Thor used it in countless ways in countless situations. But i guess all that doesn't mean anything to you. But i also said before thor with mjolnir couldn't outfly the dragon in Ragnarok. And mjolnir is way faster when it is called. But when it is thrown it isn't as fast. It didn't get faster any where in the mcu. Look my logic for that is that when it is called it needs to be with thor. It has a reason to get faster. But when it is thrown it doesn't get faster than it is thrown. Yes maybe thor could throw it slightly faster than in movies but it won't be enough. And this is SB not mjolnir. They have different properties. Thor threw it hardest at thanos in IW. But Thanos could have dodged it if he simply walked away from its path rather than trying to blast it. And that is freakin clear. There is no denying it.
And SIPERMAN SURVIVED THE NUCLEAR BOMB. Because you know why. If he had died the sun would only heal his cells but not bring him back to life. He could have floated for some time without dying and he did so. On the other hand thor is not stronger than odin. Odin only said that then to encourage thor. Don't take that comment literaly. And for batman defeating Superman , batman only won because superman was holding back at first. He didn't want to kill batman.
Dormammu,Hela(if on Asguard),Surtur(Eternal Flame),Doctor strange, Odin,Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet. I maybe a fan but i don't vote without logic
There is no logic in saying who the person would lose to.
That is like saying, "Thor would lose to the likes of Dormammu etc." There is no proof in that sentence that proves how Thor wins.
Fat Thor (a weaker version of Thor) took beatings from Thanos and survived.
Thor's durability is easily higher than Superman's.
If you eat badly for a long time, you lose most of your muscles. Maybe not with Thor, but he was still a lot weaker. He was also slower.
True, but if you think Thor's a god: shouldn't matter how he eats, gods don't really need to work out or eat healthy
If you think Thor's an alien: a superior race nonetheless, drank Asgardian beer which we see is way stronger and is still ripped af, doesn't watch what he eats really don't know if Midgard food can really mess him over, doesn't ever work out, but I guess since he's not fighting.
He shouldn't be that fat and weak, even if he that was his goal (why would he want to be fat, he names the place saint abbs)
He was slower but that's mainly due to the sheer amount of weight on him, lack of confidence and courage and spirit of rage, forgot how to fight a little, and was carrying bigger armor and an extra hammer, less that he was weaker.
It just confuses me how someone who ages so slow can get that fat that fast it doesn't really make sense. We know his tolerance/metabolism is insane. Heck, I bet if it was Chris Hemsworth and not Thor, he wouldn't even be able to get that fat.
Hulk slaps Thor until his Ragnarok upgrade. Which I'll remind you, Hulk was smashing Thor so hard he had hallucinations of his dead dad. Hulk was ready to go for more. Yes, Thor would probably have won at that point but he wouldn't certainly not stomp. Grandmaster only buzzed Thor because 1) Thor was making his champ look bad 2) Thor might've beaten him 3) He didn't want to risk it as Hulk was literately holding the Sakaar economy together
People forget something: Thor only goes full lightning when he's been charged up by loss and anger, similar to the Hulk. That's why we see Hulk doing WAY better against Thanos than Thor, who gets one-shotted. Then, when he's pissed and brings a weapon that's meant to kill Thanos with the IG, he does amazing against him. If Hulk catches Stormbreaker, even if he's not taught how to use it properly he'd chop most of the MCU in half like an uncooked noodle. Thanos is a Titan, Thor is an alien just like him. You said Thor would do better against Supes than Thanos, so how the hell does Supes beat Thanos? The only reason Thanos could tank Thor's lightning so well was because he had the infinity gauntlet. Contrary to popular belief, if you have one of the most powerful things in the universe in your hand, there is at least some passive effects. Supes is vulnerable to people like Shazam, aka magical lightning beings.
But honestly the main reason why i don't think thor is winning is because superman has done so much more on screen than thor allready. You can compare three of their best battles
Thor's battles
Thor vs Hulk
Last battle pf ragnarok
Ending of IW
Superman's battles
Superman vs zod
Superman vs Doomsday
Superman vs JL
After seeing these battles i don't really think thor can beat supes. Thor is a god yes but i think superman is more godly than thor. Well in ways of strength and speed and other abilities
MCU Thor = Norse hero played by an Australian actor; Norse ≠ Australian ???
-Superman can fly at supersonic speeds (more than 2000 miles per second). While in space, it is capable of moving at super luminal speeds (faster than light).
- Invulnerable (Superman's body is immune to various attacks / He has been shown to be able to withstand nuclear missile attacks, approaching the Sun's Earth without getting hurt, holding back the effects of star explosions and exploding 50 supernovas even after the previous red Sun weakened)
-Superman is able to produce heat rays from his eyes. It can make this ray invisible and reduce its scale to microscopic. His heat vision is able to burn and melt whatever he wants.
- Superman's body is able to absorb energy from sunlight. His body continually absorbs and saves which gives him various super powers, such as extraordinary physical strength, super five senses, and the ability to ward off gravity.
- Extraordinary Physical Strength
Superman is able to lift the heaviest burden that humans cannot imagine. The maximum load that is able to be lifted is not known until now, indicating that the alien from Krypton is almost able to lift objects of any weight (even known to be able to lift loads weighing 1 billion tons).
-Combination (strength, speed, endurance that won't run out, as long as there is still sun) , he will definitely win the fight against THOR!!
2. The crossovers were uncanon.
3. The writers were prepared to create two separate endings as Hulk knocked Superman out cold, the winners were decided on a vote based system by the fans and Superman won because he was more popular.
4. Thor has lived for thousands of years, he is far more intelligent than Superman.
There is a percentage of people saying Thor actually clears this gauntlet.
EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot that Thor no-sold more than 999,999,999,999 wankillion joules of energy from a neutron star which means he's invincible... and Stormbreaker overpowered a complete infinity gauntlet which makes him multiversal level.