Superman & BatmanvsTeam Captain America

Team Captain America Bfr doesn't count.

not voted Not sure.

Team Captain America That's a bit hypocritical for someone who thinks that it is outrageous to say that someone like Hulk or Thor has a shot at taking on the JL.

Team Captain America He can't bring himself to vote against Superman in favour of Hulk

not voted @Taurus Not at all. The Justice League is literally all super humans besides batman. Avengers are mainly human with a few super humans. It’s not hypocrisy. I do believe Superman could possibly take this with his superior speed.
@Tyrannus Stop trying to discredit me, you don’t know what your talking about.

Team Captain America Says the person who thinks Banner can be killed and Hulk can tire when angry

not voted Yeah, says that person. Banner won’t have time to transform against someone who can move 185000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000x light speed.
Yes, Hulk has incredible stamina, but it isn’t infinite.

Team Captain America You've just made up that number but I get your point. However as I've shown the speed of thought is faster than light.
If Hulk is angry he gets stronger not tired.

not voted I didn’t make up the number. Superman went 1.85 x 10^51 times the speed of light. Speed of thought isn’t even close to that.
Not forever though.

Team Captain America Prove that it isn't.
Prove that he can't.

not voted First of all, you haven’t told me how much faster thought is than light. Even if the speed of thought was a billion times faster, it’s still not even close to a sexdecillion. But all we can know for certain is that it’s ftl. It could be barely ftl or massively ftl. We don’t know. If you could quantify it, that would help. Even if you highball it it still isn’t close to Superman’s top speed.
Hulk pretty much always turns back into Banner, and not always because he’s calmed down. Hulk not getting tired won’t matter even if it’s true, because Superman fought in a war for 1000 years in Valhalla.

Team Captain America Banner is Hulk when the fight starts. Superman won't know to avoid him but regardless it doesn't matter. He doesn't have the strength to keep him down especially with the support he is receiving in this fight.

Also Banner always is fighting for control to transform back.

not voted Yeah, I know. Superman’s speed is what gives him the edge over everyone in the second team. And it isn’t by a small margin, it’s a significant advantage. That’s what is giving me pause here.

Yeah, that’s a weakness. Hulk is generally blind rage and not that intelligent. He’s also lacking in the speed department. Superman has a genius level intellect (I gave feats) and also is undeniably faster. You can’t hit what you can’t catch.

Team Captain America Instead of answering the question your just nitpicking the facts again. Also I'm not saying Hulk's going to beat him in a foot race but he can react to him as he's done several times to all the fastest beings that have attacked him.
There's usually context why Hulk reverts back to Banner, none of which Superman has access to. It doesn't matter how long Superman can fight for, he will tire eventually and against a growing force he'll tire much quicker.
Hulk isn't blind rage and unintelligent. That's a generalisation. Bruh I'm not saying you have to be a Hulk expert but don't pretend to know him then. If your shown things to the contrary just accept it rather than doubling down.

not voted Superman is faster than all of them. Also your forgetting that Iron man, Captain America, and even daredevil have landed hits on him without him reacting to them.
As long as they're under the sun, Superman won't fatigue.
Well, he is. Hulk is not that smart. Even you should know that.

Team Captain America Yup Hulk does hold back a lot. But he won't in this fight. Banner will fully unleash Hulk and he'll go Worldbreaker. "As long as they're under the sun..." nO lImIt FaLaCy?
No, he isn't. Are you trying to imply that you would know better than him? Hulk has outsmarted many alleged geniuses before. Should I bring scans?

(response to previous comment) vv
Superman vs Hulk, Thor, and Iron Man*** (shitstomp, magic and they charge each other up)
Batman vs Cap, Widow, and Hawkeye** (stomp)

Hulk outsmarted Superman lol. Canonically he's outsmarted many people meant to be smarter than him, while the reverse can be said for Supes. Whatever he is lacking will be made up quickly by his rage, the others are there to make sure he won't be taken out early and that's only IF that's possible. Hulk has reacted to faster than Superman before. I sincerely pity Team 1.

not voted Superman holds back too, just as much if not more. And no, it isn't a no limits fallacy, since i'm not claiming Superman is unbeatable under the sun. Superman is unquestionably smarter than Hulk. Savage Hulk is not smart. Bring the scans.

If Superman isn't holding back: Iron man instantly gets wiped out, Hulk gets blitzed and thrown into the sun before he can blink, Thor gets taken out due to lacking the adequate speed.
Agreed on Batman.

No, he didn't. Literally all he did was get in a hit Superman wasn't expecting it. That isn't outsmarting him. Superman's top speed is something Hulk couldn't come close to reacting to.

Team Captain America Are you seriously relying on anti-feats again? Don't forget Batman's been able to land hits on Superman several times. Also Hulk holds back against these lower street level heroes to avoid seriously hurting them.
He will if he uses up more energy than he gains.
Hulks not a super genius but he's not dumb either. That just proves you don't really know Hulk. On Planet Hulk he had to strategize battle tactics to win. Against the Red Hulk, Hulk was still able to learn and exploit his overheating weakness. Like @Taurus said he even outsmarted Superman and KO'd him.
The whole "throwing Hulk into the sun" is laughable at this point. Trying it is why Superman loses.
Also @Taurus has again brought up a very good point. You've just said Superman isn't unbeatable under the sun (even though you've been implying it) but we've never said the same about Hulk. Just because Hulk beats Superman doesn't mean Hulk beats everyone.

not voted Right, and the only reason Batman even stands the slightest hope against Superman is because he holds back and kryptonite exists.
Hulk couldn’t stop him from doing it, many people agree on that. Superman is too quick.
You imply that about Hulk. Hulk does not beat Superman, he is inferior in every single category besides strength, where he barely has an advantage.

Team Captain America So what hope did Iron man, Captain America, and Daredevil have against Hulk?
No one's saying that but you. In fact the people here have debunked that. Hulk reacts too fast.
Your just saying I've implied that about Hulk because I've said you do with Superman. Flash is inferior to most heroes in the number of powers yet he stomps most heroes. Like Hulk, Flash has an ace in the hole which secures the victory.

Team Captain America Alas, the best smartness scans were classic Hulk I believe, but as @Tyrannus has said, Hulk has outsmarted Red Hulk who is no slouch himself in that department. And Hulk has superior durability and healing, adaptability and power gain, and a couple other things. Also the sun thing is bfr I'm done proving it wrong at this point. In this fight, if Superman attacks one, the other will get one in one him, so on so forth. It ends when Worldbreaker Hulk, amped Thor, and amped Iron man (if he's not dead at this point, which is highly unlikely) KO Superman (IF he even makes it that far).

Team Captain America It's a 4v2, Hulk and Thor can definitely take out Superman working together, and Ironman and Captain America got Batman.

Team Captain America How do they have 1 vote?

Team Captain America captain america would stomp batman

Team Captain America lol why not throw a nuke in there for good measure.

Team Captain America No way. Hulk and Thor working together destroy Superman

not voted @qsym_roksaton You have only been a member for three days.How did you know about Sentry vs daredevil battle?

Team Captain America Now that's a very good point

Team Captain America Exposed. Lol.

Team Captain America Agreed

Team Captain America Except Superman can't beat Hulk or Thor and this is base Batman. Hulk has one of the fastest reaction speeds in comics and Thor can be one of the fastest beings in Marvel

Team Captain America Hulk and Thor would solo

Team Captain America There are other powerful versions of Superman that could take Thor and Hulk.

Team Captain America Funny guy

Team Captain America No he doesn't. Thor => Superman. Hulk can mak a great fight with Superman. Batman and Captain America are pretty even. But Stark defeats Batman by himself.

Team Captain America Superman>thor

Team Captain America Batman would get annihilated by iron man or hulk
And Thor would beat Superman

Team Captain America Batman beats cap but hulk> superman so...

Team Captain America Batman does not beat Cap.

Team Captain America Superior fighting Skil plus big Arsenal Batman claps

Team Captain America Cap and Batman are extremely close in terms of fighting skill. Captain America then is physically superior, has way more experience, and has taken on characters with big arsenals before and has come out fine. Also, Batman's "big" arsenal can't get past Cap's shield so...

Team Captain America Batman is smarter in the fight takes place in a closed area he could use his stealth they are close in fighting skills yes Batman consistently fights with physichally superior villians and wins his Arsenal don't need to he has smoke bombs or electric bombs etc he can also disarm him from his shield

Team Captain America He doesn't fight characters who have the perfect combination of speed, strength, durability, agility, tactical intelligence, and fighting skill like Cap.

Team Captain America Thor could one-shot superman

Superman & Batman PS ..THERE IS NO FAVORITISM AS I LIKE HULK PROBABLY AT THE BEST OUT OF EVERYBODY..BUT SUPERMAN IS WAY TOO MUCH FOR HULK

Team Captain America You do know Cap and Batman are pretty even in a fight and Thor and Superman are extremely even in a fight. So now add Stark to fight Batman. Iron Man would defeat Batman in a one on one. Hulk would make a great fight with Superman. So Thor and Hulk are way too much for Superman.

Team Captain America Cap or Iron Man would solo Batman and Hulk or Thor would solo Superman. You've massively overrated Batman and Superman

Team Captain America hulk and iron man would destroy batman batman would beat cap tough superman would beat thor but the hulk beats superman

Team Captain America Bruce can beat tony

Team Captain America Captain America is more than a match for Batman, Iron Man has too much firepower and Hulk is too strong, although Batman did beat him once with gas grenades and a kick to the stomach, but you've massively overestimated Batman.

Team Captain America @BlotskyA, only banner could beat stark.

Team Captain America no batman beats cap

Team Captain America Cap is faster, more durable, agiler, stronger, has way better reflexes, and superhuman. I've got nothing against Batman but don't overrate him. Cao knows many styles too, and has his own effective style

Team Captain America batman has to much gadgets and is more experienced

Superman & Batman Superman already beated Thor b4 in a crossover
Batman already bested Cap b4 in a crossover
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not voted agreed

Team Captain America @AkhilPDX If he has any of the following, then maybe:

- The Gift of Forgetfulness
- God Blast
- Anti-Force
- Thermo-Blast

Team Captain America Boi superman can't physically beat Hulk.Iron Man maybe. Cap would probably lose too but after giving a great fight. For Pete sake he freakin stopped a punch from thanos with the gauntlet I sure he can handle a couple punches from super man. Even then Thor and Hulk would destroy superman and batman both.