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Anti-Monitor (AU)vsGalactus

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ultron
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Anti-Monitor (AU) galactus eats planets while anit monitor eats universes.
I think its pretty clear who wins
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RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Galactus For 1,690,420th time eating planets doesn't mean he is planetary
Jongensoden
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Galactus All what what AM actually did under an unknown amount of time was send waves of Anti-Matter into Universes which took multiple pages to actually destroy them 🀣
Unicron
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti monitor easy beat Galactus
Meerrahmat
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Galactus Galactus
Ja
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Galactus destroys planets, Anti Monitor destroys the Universe
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RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Galactus Galactus is planetary because he eats planets πŸ€”
MoNsTeR
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Galactus I like this people logic am wins because he eats universes and galactus eats planets πŸ€“
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MoNsTeR
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Galactus Galactus is planetary because he eats planets πŸ€”
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Galactus Let's not forget Galactus absorbed Dormammu
Deathstroke_01
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti-monitor has omnipresence over universe.
vex69
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Anti-Monitor (AU) What can Galactus do to Antimonitor? In any random encounter, Antimonitor dusts Galactus. Antimonitor is simply too much for Galactus.
MoNsTeR
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Galactus fused galactus solo every anti-monitor
IAMlegend87069
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Galactus eats planets...anti-monitor eats universes...AM wins
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shaneherald
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Anti-Monitor (AU) anti-monitor had help because he couldnt kill him
ArshiaShahlaei
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Galactus Galactus >>> Darkseid = anti monitor
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Deathstroke_01
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti-monitor>>>Galactus>>Darkseid
ArshiaShahlaei
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Galactus i thought darkseid has beaten him
doesn't he ?
Deathstroke_01
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Anti-Monitor (AU) That was Godhead darkseid vs Anti-monitor w/Equation they both have different profile.
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Ezio
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Anti-Monitor (AU)
ArshiaShahlaei
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Galactus πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

i thought normal darkseid has beaten him
vcowles77
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not voted Bruh Darkseid = Anti Monitor who would've thought of that.
Deathstroke_01
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Only time darkseid actually killed anti-monitor when he was in Godhead Version.
Lucifer_Morningstar_Prime
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not voted Antimonitor eats universes bro
Doctor_Manhattan
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Neutral which of the two is the greater destroyer?
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brucewayne123
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Monitor ofc
YounesRX
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not voted Galactus
Rafeeqknockz
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti monitor burnsπŸ’₯
MaseTheFace
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Anti-Monitor (AU) *Stomp*
Savage
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Galactus Galactus has the potential to be equal to Eternity
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Ya
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Anti-Monitor (AU) The Anti Monitor eats universes and Galactus eats planets.
Savage
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Galactus Galactus once tried to consume all reality, and at full potential is an equal to eternity. Also, he's half of fused Galactus.
Savage
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Galactus Proof?
Chijb
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Anti-Monitor (AU) The Anti-Monitor devours entire universes. In his time, he has destroyed thousands of universes, whereas Galactus devours planets to satisfy his hunger and power himself. This cannot compare since what are a few planets compared to whole universes.
Taurus
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Hmm...thinking about changing my vote...
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Savage
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Galactus You should, Galactus for the win!
Taurus
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Why though?
Savage
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Galactus Gaactus is more powerful than a lot of people give him credit for, he has clashed with the likes of IG Thanos, who has almost unlimited power and snapped away trillions. Galactus was able to fight against him, and there's no way Anti-Monitor could do that, as he's been taken down by much less.
Taurus
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Anti-Monitor (AU) You think Batman with IG could beat him though.
Savage
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Galactus The IG can definitely beat Galactus, but it's amazingly impressive that he wouldn't just be one shoted, something that anti-monitor couldn't do
Taurus
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Anti-Monitor (AU) The IG can't beat anyone its just an item really.
Savage
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Galactus The IG is still a power level for reference though, so it works in the same way here
phamhungbao
phamhungbao 1 y 7 mo 14 d
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Neutral Please explain to me how Galactus can beat Anti Moniter ?
The only version of Galactus stomp Anti Moniter is Life Bringer Galactus
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Ba
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Anti-Monitor (AU) YES
Digital
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I think also galactus fused can beat lucifer too
Pedrof
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Anti-Monitor (AU) No he can't. Lucifer solos all Galactus together.
Savage
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Galactus @Pedrof Fused Galactus could beat Lucifer
Pedrof
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I don't think so.
Savage
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Galactus Why?
Pedrof
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Lucifer has 50% of The Presence's power, that would be more than enough to defeat all of 616 universe.
Savage
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Galactus Fused Galactus is far, far above earth 616
Hell, even base Galactus is
Dormammu10
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I dont know much about anti moniter are you sure he wins?
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MaseTheFace
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Anti-Monitor (AU) He was the cause of the "Crisis on Infinite Earths"
MoNsTeR
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Galactus Crisis on infinite earths have different profile
Poe
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Current Galactus beats current Monty Normal Galactus beats SCW Monty Coie Monty beats almost every Galactus mabye not Lifebringer . Base Monty which is somewhere in between SCW and COIE I think should be able to beat Galactus 6/10times
Michealdem17
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Changed my mind galactus will win with mid-level difficulty
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phamhungbao
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Neutral Please explain to me how Galactus beat Anti Moniter ? The only version of Galactus would stomp Anti Moniter is Life Bringer Galactus
Michealdem17
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Actually he doesn't.
Giugi76
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Galactus is LOWER!
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Tyrannus
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Galactus We've already debunked that.
Mr_Incognito
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Anti-Monitor (AU) What does that prove? Obviously galactus beats Darkseid avatars... what does that have to do with this fight?
Tyrannus
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Galactus I brought that up because @Guigi76 claimed that Darkseid=Galactus
Giugi76
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti-monitor = Multiversal +
Galactus = Universal
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Tyrannus
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Galactus I believe Galactus is multiversal too and that even starving Galactus can threaten the universe.
Giugi76
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Anti-Monitor (AU) in any case it can do nothing against the Anti-Monitor
Tyrannus
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Galactus Why not? I just told you he's multiversal while Anti-monitor struggled with Darkseid
Giugi76
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Anti-Monitor (AU) galactus was defeated by the King of Chaos who was declared inferior to Anti-Monitor
Tyrannus
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Galactus They're not even in the same universe so what are you talking about? Galactus>>>Darkseid=Anti-Monitor
Giugi76
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti-Monitor >>> Darkseid = Galactus
Tyrannus
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Galactus You didn't answer the first question and no Galactus would eat Apokolips while Darkseid watches.
MoNsTeR
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Galactus galactus >>> darkseid
MoNsTeR
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Galactus already one shotted darkseid
Savage
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Galactus @Giugi76 Terrible argument my guy, wrong in too many places to count
BatmanWithPreparation
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Anti-Monitor (AU) That Darkseid which Galactus one shots was just an avatar of the real One. The shadow from the fall (in the literal sense of the fall) of the real Darkseid almost destroyed the New Earth Universe in the Final Crisis. Galan could not destroy his universe even at the maximum of his powers.
MoNsTeR
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Galactus Universal lmfao
DivineBeast
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Why is Galactus getting so many votes, And don't you dare say that Galactus needs to have more votes!
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Tyrannus
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Galactus Its because Galactus is better. And whats wrong with Galactus getting votes? He's still losing
DivineBeast
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Anti-Monitor (AU) @Tyrannus what do you mean by better?
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Galactus Read @Mr_Incognito's comment.
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Galactus @DivineBeast I'm guessing you saw you got debunked so downvoted instead
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Galactus= Eats planets
Anti-Moniter= Eats universes
Why are people picking Galactus?
ThomasMHxDeaf
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I know Anti-Monitor wins
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DevyEZ
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Galactus Anti-Monitor is fodder, ngl.
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EmptyHand
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Galactus No he's not very powerful
DevyEZ
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Galactus You're right, he is powerful. But he is also very overrated and would get clapped by Galactus.
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Jongensoden
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Galactus His feats are not impressive he is fodder compared to his tier
Mr_Incognito
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I disagree. His hobby is consuming universes.
Mr_Incognito
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Guy who eats universes vs guy who eats planets
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Clint_Barton
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Anti-Monitor (AU) No offense, but your comparison is real dog sh it. Galactus is comparable has fought beings like Mephisto and Odin, and proved himself equal/superior to them. And when he was well-fed, he was able to kill a mad celestial, and mad celestial are stated to be equal to 616 celestials. Adding the fact that his fight against Scrier was gonna make all of space and time collapse. Enough multiversal+ feats for Galan.

I don't scale DC so I don't know where does the AM scale to, but scaling Galactus to planets and saying eating universes makes you above Galactus, is totally wrong.
AkhilPDX
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Anti-Monitor (AU) @Clint_Barton Exactly. Anti-Monitor in his base should be around multiversal+. You can get him higher, but you can also get him lower. He has a couple anti-feats but those were when he was weakened.
Mr_Incognito
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti-monitor is the character spectre needed help to beat. That should be pretty telling
Clint_Barton
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Spectre wasn't using his full potential, it is directly stated.
Tyrannus
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Galactus And this isn't COIE AM
Jongensoden
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Galactus Anti monitor aint Multiversal plus he is Universal without ****
stupdeb10
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Gotta say fifty fifty but anti-monitor barely takes it.
Mxyzptlk
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Anti-Monitor (AU) True form anti monitor is outerversal he one shot galactus
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shaneherald
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Anti-Monitor (AU) hes not outerversal at all
Aries
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti Monitor oneshots.
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Th
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Anti-Monitor (AU) well said
EmptyHand
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Galactus Galan one shots him
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booyah
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti Monitor One shots
EmptyHand
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Galactus if you wanna fanboy dc yes
BatmanWithPreparation
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Galan can’t even one shots Thanos in the 2004s β€œThanos” series...
EmptyHand
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Galactus Galactus one shot a multiverse before
booyah
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti monitor is the second strongest villian of dc after mr mxyzptlk and Galactus is not even in top 10
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DevyEZ
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Galactus Nah, Anti-Monitor probably isn't even in top 10 most powerful villains, let alone top 2.
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booyah
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Look at this link
https://www.cbr.com/dc-villains-most-powerful/
Aries
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Anti-Monitor (AU) nah, current versions of Anti Monitor are way above Mxy.
Aries
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Anti-Monitor (AU) yes easily, Mxy can't even comprehend the dimension where the Anti Monitor hails from. It's also pretty obvious since Mxy hails from the 5th dimension which is imagination, and Anti Monitor hails from the 6th dimension which is beyond imagination.
Aries
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Anti-Monitor (AU) what? are you saying Anti Monitor isn't 6D? the 6D alone is beyond the perception of Mxy.
Mxyzptlk
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Could go either way ,
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HolyJoe
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Maybe.
Jongensoden
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Galactus Not really
booyah
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I guess
EmptyHand
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Galactus No it really wont
EmptyHand
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Galactus Galactus beats planets

Antimonitor died from a planet



Poe
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Marvel fan boys go Galactus wins
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EmptyHand
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Galactus Uh huh
Poe
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Anti-Monitor (AU) AM stomps I just read CHOIE he destroys Galactus
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EmptyHand
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Galactus This is not coie Antimonitor
Breaker
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Galactus Change My Mind
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Oblivion
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Anti-Monitor (AU) anti monitor is outerversal and galactus is not
Breaker
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Galactus Galactus full power should win after a long hard bloody battle
Oblivion
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Anti-Monitor (AU) im saying anti monitor is outerversal wtf are you talking about even lbg cant beat him
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Galactus AM doesn't have multi-universal showings, that's nonsense right there. COIE AM was wanked too long, simply because people didn't read that comic properly.
Oblivion
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Anti-Monitor (AU) in jl new justice,mxy says that there is an creation controlling room in 6th dimention and he says only 3 people has enough power to enter that room the thing is source wall is beyond dimentional and its in creation and AM can control it so he's outerversal (that 3 is the children of perpetua)
Sb
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Anti-Monitor (AU) @breaker you should know that just anti monitor body is already able to change the multiverse
Jongensoden
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Galactus stomp
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EmptyHand
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Galactus Not exactly a stomp but Galactus argueably wins yes
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I dunno 'bout that.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Yeah no
EmptyHand
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Galactus Galactus wins and i stand by that claim
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Anti-Monitor (AU) No
Oblivion
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Δ°nfinite dimentional vs universal
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EmptyHand
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Galactus Galactus is multiversal, AM is multi-universal at best
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Anti-Monitor (AU) There is an creation controlling room in sixth dimension in that room everyrhing that is created by perpatua can be controlled sphere of Gods monitor sphere(infinite dimentional place) mxy Said only 3 people has enough power to enter that room and those 3 are the children of perpatua
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Oblivion
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Btw perpatua didn't created the multiverse her child world forger did
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti monitor is one of the 3 beings who has full control in dc (hell,heaven,orrery of worlds,monitor sphere etc) he stomps
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti-Monitor is so hated nowadays. People are saying Odin can beat him πŸ˜‚.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Lol πŸ˜‚ I don't know why I'm laughing?
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Galactus Antimonitor is fodder and ive explained already why its a piece of garbage
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Galactus Antimonitor struggled hard destroy planets and needed amps in order to fight a universal+ darkseid m-body with the help of many others, Antimonitor also even after amping up a lot nearly got obliterated by a multi-galaxy+ pre-crisis Supergirl, Antimonitor also is scared of krona a being who got bodied by base Green lantern Hal Jordan, @everyone Antimonitor is fodder
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not voted that is really Bad Scaling
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Anti monitor would win
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Never mind
Tyrannus
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Galactus How is anti-monitor better than Spectre? I think they fought before and Spectre stalemated but still prevented AM from doing what he wanted.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Dude, Spectre was amped when he fought Anti-Monitor. Base Spectre wasn't enough to beat Anti-Monitor.
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Galactus I did not know that. So why is Spectre depicted as the strongest character in DC after the Presence and Micheal? How is God's wraith not enough?
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Anti-Monitor (AU) He's not depicted like that, he's not even close. Parallax dominated Spectre twice, Zatanna in Seven Soldiers beat somebody on par with The Spectre, Lucifer Morningstar equals Michael and is far superior to Spectre, as is Elaine Belloc, and all of the Endless. Especially Death. Mister Mxyzptlk has defeated The Spectre before. He's nowhere near the third strongest.
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Galactus Antimonitor is not beating unbound spectre
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Galactus he beat jim corrigan spectre you **** not ******* unbound spectre
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Galactus Spectre is shown as one of DC's strongest characters. Whenever people talk about the storngest characters in DC Spectre is always there.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) That's because he is one of the strongest... when he's unbound. When Spectre has a host, he tends to get shown up a lot by other beings, such as the ones I listed. And even when he is unbound, he's still vastly inferior to the likes of The Endless, Michael Demiurgos, Lucifer Morningstar and a few others.
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Galactus So why does Spectre need a host if it makes him weak?
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I actually don't know why he takes a host, but the point is that Spectre definitely isn't the third strongest character in DC, bound or unbound.
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Galactus If you look it up almost every website has Spectre in the top 3 strongest DC characters ever
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Okay, and? That's not how he's actually portrayed. Even with unbound Spectre, there's far more than just two characters superior to him. The Presence, Elaine Belloc, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos (who defeated Spectre on panel), any of the seven Endless, Pralaya, Gabriel Hornblower, Mazikeen, The Basanos, and more. And if we were to talk about hosted Spectre, there's even more people stronger than him. Jim Corrigan, Spectre's strongest host, is weaker than Parallax, Nekron, Anti-Monitor, Seven Soldiers Zatanna, Mister Mxyzptlk and more. And there's numerous people that are on par with Hosted Spectre, such as The Phantom Stranger and Trigon. So again, Spectre is not portrayed as the third strongest DC character, he is not even close.
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Galactus ...And so that means he's in the top 3. Batman's portrayed to be able to beat many people in DC yet in a fight against Superman, my money's on Superman. Spectre is literally God's wraith. He has the power.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Dude, no. Just because random people think he's in the top three, that doesn't mean it's how he's actually portrayed. Because again, in the comics, Spectre is not shown to be that strong, Hosted Spectre gets his ass handed to him on the regular and both Hosted and Unbound Spectre are portrayed to be weaker than numerous beings. Your Batman example is not equivalent because Batman needs prep time (y'know, like Spectre needed to contend with The Anti-Monitor) to contend with anyone above street level. And okay, Spectre is God's Wrath. Lucifer and Michael are God's sons. Elaine took God's place. Spectre is bound by all of the Endless' concepts. Pralaya is the void beyond God's creation and can threaten him. Gabriel Hornblower and Mazikeen are on par with Lucifer and Michael, albeit slightly inferior. The Basanos are comparable to Destiny of the Endless. Spectre is not in the top three, there's so many people vastly superior to him.
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Galactus Hosted Spectre does not get beaten regulerly at all. DO you even read any cmics with Spectre. If that were true no one would have put him in the top 3. Almost everyone has. It doesn't matter how well he's portrayed. Batman's portrayed in a very good light but against most metahumans he should lose. I heard one argument that Spectre's even more powerful than Micheal because Micheal's bounded by the rules set by the Presence while Spectre isn't. Spectre gets his power from the Presence and the Presence has unlimited power.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Really, the question is if you read comics with Spectre. Hosted Spectre has been defeated by Parallax three separate times. Once in Zero Hour, twice in Blackest Night. Hosted Spectre needed to be amped by every single magic user in the DC multiverse just to stalemate Anti-Monitor during Crisis on Infinite Earths. Hosted Spectre himself admitted he couldn't even touch Nekron during Blackest Night. He literally said the words; "I cannot strike you down." In More Fun Comics #55, Zor was able to fight evenly with The Spectre. So again, on a regular basis, Hosted Spectre gets his ass handed to him. He is not anywhere near the top three strongest. Also that Michael argument is entirely invalidated by the fact that Michael, while holding back, was able to defeat Unbound Spectre. Also, just because Spectre gets his power from the Presence doesn't mean he's anywhere near him in power, so that certainly doesn't put him above Michael. Also Spectre is absolutely bound by The Presence's rules, considering that if he does anything Presence doesn't like, he can just take some of Spectre's power. Also Michael literally said Spectre is bound to obey, so... Also there's literally no way for Spectre to be the third strongest. Number one is The Writer, number two is a tie between The Presence and Elaine Belloc, number three is Lucifer Morningstar. There's absolutely no way you could put Spectre at third place.
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Galactus Not answering the question and just turning it around on me just makes you look guilty but at least we sort of know the answer now. I've never said hosted Spectre I just said Spectre. If Hosted Spectre could beat AM imagine his power without a host. I believe there was more context with what Hosted Spectre said about Nekron. Spectre's been prevented from killing Darkseid permanently before, not because he can't but because of the source. You literally listed no examples of Spectre losing so I'm not sure where you get "on a regular basis, Hosted Spectre gets his ass handed to him" from. When Spectre and Micheal confront the Presence, Micheal went down but Spectre was allowed to defy him. I haven't placed him third, others have. Considering more people have said that, I'm more inclined to believe them then just you.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I've shown that I read Spectre, you have not, especially considering how you didn't even know Spectre was amped against The Anti-Monitor. Also by the way, you did say Hosted Spectre. As quoted from your comment; "Hosted Spectre does not get beaten regulerly at all." I'm sorry, did you miss where I gave two separate comics where Parallax beat Spectre on three separate occasions? Did you miss where I gave the exact issue where Zor was able to contend with The Spectre? Oh, and something else to be noted, in Seven Soldiers, Zatanna defeated Zor. Which would make Seven Soldiers Zatanna superior to The Spectre. I gave several examples, I just had to list them again because apparently you didn't see them. Also you ignored the fact that Michael kicked The Spectre's ass, threw him out of Heaven and explicitly said Spectre was bound to obey The Presence's rules. I can give the scans for both of those if you would like. You've also refused to acknowledge the numerous people I listed that are superior to Spectre, such as Gabriel Hornblower, Mazikeen, The Endless, etc. Also if you don't think Spectre is the third strongest, why the hell are you arguing that he is? That makes zero sense.
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Galactus I didn't say Spectre wasn't amped. You assume too much. It still stands that Spectre doesn't get beaten regularly. That statement alone proves you don't know much about Spectre. I know Spectre lost once to Parallax but what were the others? Zor "contending" with Spectre doesn't mean Spectre loses regularly. That Seven Soldiers example doesn't mean much. Batman's beaten Superman before and Superman's beaten Darkseid. Can Batman confidently beat Darkseid? Apart from Parallax, none of your examples beat Spectre. None of those examples compared to God's wraith.

Think about it from my point of view. Everyone whose's spoken about Spectre says he's in the top 3 except you. Given that you like to assume a lot, I'm going to believe everyone else. Now that makes sense.
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Galactus Spectre (as Corrigen) has beaten Zor before and he easily tore Hal Jordan out of Parallax during the Blackest Night so that examples now invalid.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) And you're misconstruing what I said. I said you didn't KNOW Spectre was amped against Anti-Monitor, not that you said he wasn't amped. Not entirely sure how you didn't get that right, but okay.

Spectre lost THRICE to Parallax, not once. And yes, the Seven Soldiers example does work because it clearly shows Zatanna > Zor = Spectre. Your Batman example is not equivalent because Batman needed PREP TIME to defeat Superman. Base Batman cannot beat Superman. Meanwhile, Base Spectre was matched by Base Zor, who was weaker than SS Zatanna. SS Zatanna is superior to The Spectre. Give proof that none of my examples can defeat The Spectre, don't just say they can't without evidence. Also really, you think that Gabriel Hornblower and Mazikeen, both of whom are relative to MICHAEL DEMIURGOS AND LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR can't beat The Spectre? Even though Michael already beat Spectre's ass? And Death of the Endless is stronger than Michael? Also the only reason you've given to support that Spectre is superior to them is that he's God's Wrath, which is not a proper reason. Title doesn't mean anything, especially when there's characters such as Lucifer and Michael, who are God's SONS, there's Elaine who literally became God, etc.

Yeah, no. I know for a fact I am not the only person who knows that The Spectre is not the third strongest. And if you believe he's the third strongest, prove it. Give scans and feats that prove him being the third strongest is the case.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Yeah, read Blackest Night again. Black Lantern Spectre got absolutely torn apart by Parallax, and Spectre was only able to land a single blow on an off-guard and casual Parallax, who then proceeded to rip The Spectre's face off. STAR SAPPHIRE was the one who freed Hal from Parallax, and that was AFTER Parallax was going to kill The Spectre. Green Lantern #51, go read that again.
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Galactus I asked what were the other times Spectre lost to Parallax. Given that you couldn't give them I think we have our answer. There were no other times Spectre lost. Spectre beat Zor so. The Batman example proves my point. Beating someone doesn't always mean they're better because there's usually more to it. Trying to compare Zatanna to God's wraith really doesn't help your point. Do any of those other people you mentioned have the power of God's wraith (apart from Lucifier and Micheal who are understandably stronger)?

Shall I send you the links of the people who all disagree with you?
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Galactus I mean Tracer bodied here zero difficulty it seems, only thing is that Spectre was holding back against Anti Monitor. As shown also, it was stated Spectre could have ended Anti Monitor any time. As the rest I wanted to address, has already been addressed here. Thinking Spectre even touches the Endless or Lucifer/Michael is pretty retarded. I still would like to know how a slave of God, beats a son of god who does not follow anything God says and does wtf he wants to do...(Lucifer).
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Because apparently I have to give the examples again:
Black Lantern Spectre v. Parallax - Parallax casually bodied Spectre.
Spectre v. Parallax, immediately after the above fight - Parallax was causally overpowering Spectre and was about to kill him before the Lanterns had to help Spectre.

Batman example does not prove your point because you keep overlooking the fact that Batman had PREP TIME when he beat Superman. It was not base Batman, your point does not work. Comparing Zatanna to The Spectre does help because once again, Zor is comparable to The Spectre. Spectre did not body him, Zor is comparable. Zatanna clapped Zor. So once again, Zatanna > Zor = Spectre.

Yes, again. Mazikeen has Lucifer's Morningstar powers. Gabriel Hornblower is at least comparable to Mazikeen. That makes five people (Presence, Michael, Lucifer, Mazikeen and Gabriel) that are stronger than Spectre. Then there's Elaine, who took The Presence's place. That makes six. The Endless, all seven of them, are above creation. The Spectre serves within it. Oh yeah, and Death of the Endless exists beyond The Void, which Spectre's strongest amped form is only equal to. Destiny of the Endless' book holds all existence, and not even Michael Demiurgos can take it from him. So yes, Spectre gets bodied by every last one of those people.
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Galactus Strange that you have to bring up Black Lantern Spectre but not normal Spectre.

You just helped my point. I'm surprised you didn't see it. There's usually more to the fight when a weaker opponent beats a stronger one like with Batman. So obviously it does work. Spectre beat Zor, Zor couldn't beat Spectre so what you said didn't make sense.

https://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/top-15-most-powerful-characters-in-the-dc-universe/
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Black Lantern Spectre is still Spectre... he simply has a Black Lantern Ring. Also you ignored the fact that Parallax was bodying Base Spectre until Star Sapphire came in to help Spectre separate Hal Jordan from Parallax. Parallax was literally about to kill Spectre.

Stop overlooking the fact that Batman always needs PREPARATION. It is not ever BASE Batman beating Superman level beings, it is Batman, prepared with Superman level TECH AND GEAR that lets him do that. Your entire point is invalid because Batman cannot do anything on Superman's tier via his own raw power, he always needs PREP TIME. Zor did not need prep to contend with The Spectre (also Spectre literally didn't beat Zor, Zor literally said "Time has made me your superior," so...). Because you clearly don't understand that Batman with prep is different than Batman without, let me explain it to you. Superman is superior to Base Batman by a literal infinite degree. Batman with PREP TIME (Justice Buster suit, Kryptonite, etc, etc.) is what's able to contend with Superman. Meanwhile, Base Zor, with no prep time, is able to contend with The Spectre. See the difference? One cannot perform an action in their BASE FORM, the other can. So once again, your Batman example is not equivalent. And even if Zor had lost to Spectre (and he didn't), Zatanna still destroyed Zor, and would therefore at least be equal to Spectre. So again, Spectre is nowhere near as strong as you think he is.

Wow, you just completely ignored literally everything I said in my last paragraph. Do you have any actual rebuttal to Mazikeen, Gabriel Hornblower, Elaine Belloc and The Endless being stronger than The Spectre? Also, you already conceded Spectre isn't the third strongest. You acknowledged that both Lucifer and Michael are superior to Spectre. Presence > Lucifer >= Michael > Spectre. Spectre ain't in third place, even in your basic scale that ignores the multitude of characters that would body Spectre. And I know damn well you don't expect me to take a list seriously when it considers THE FLASH and SUPERMAN as the fifteenth and fourteenth strongest characters in the entirety of DC when there's a multitude of cosmic beings, abstracts and Gods that could annihilate infinite amounts of both of them. Hell, there's even other beings on the Justice League far stronger than them both like Hal Jordan. But yeah, sure, you should absolutely take this list that gives no scans or actual evidence to support its ranking as absolute fact. Because that's definitely not utter stupidity.
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Galactus That wouldn't happen to Spectre at his peak.

You still missed the point even though your helping prove my point. There's usually a reason why a weaker opponent beats a stronger opponent. In this case it's Batman's gear and prep time. Zor likes to troll Spectre so of course he's going to make claims like that. Abomination, Red Hulk and the Leader have all claimed to be superior to Hulk and Hulk's beaten them time and time again. Try and read carefully before replying, it might help. It doesn't look like you know Zor or Spectre from what it looks like though. For one thing Spectre has beaten Zor before and again Zatanna is nothing compared to God's wraith.

I did read your assumptions in the last paragraph and I gave the link which disproved everything you said. I never conceded Spectre wasn't the third strongest. I have more links if you want. They all put Spectre near the top. Hal Jordan is arguably my second favourite hero but even I know there are stronger members in the Justice League. A site like that isn't going to just lie like you have. They gave examples. Given that you haven't given any scans, I'm going to listen to those that actually know Spectre
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Yes, obviously Unbound Spectre would not get clapped by Parallax. Literally nobody said Parallax would defeat Unbound Spectre, the entire point is that Jim Corrigan Spectre has consistently gotten his ass kicked by Parallax.

You say Zatanna is nothing to Spectre, yet ignore the fact that Zor is comparable to Spectre and Zatanna destroyed Zor. Spectre being "God's Wrath" is a title, it doesn't mean anything. That's like saying because Thanos calls himself God, he's omnipotent now. Your "point" is irrelevant. Zor didn't beat Spectre via gear or prep. It was sheer power alone. And then SS Zatanna beat Zor, via sheer power alone. Even if Spectre has beaten Zor, that just shows they're comparable because both have defeated the other. The comics are saying SS Zatanna > Zor = Spectre.

Assumptions nothing, I gave actual feats and facts from the comics. The only person assuming things is you, because you have not once disproved the concrete fact that Mazikeen, Gabriel Hornblower, The Endless and Elaine Belloc are superior to The Spectre. Honestly, do you even know who these characters are? Because your only reasoning is just assuming Spectre is stronger, because he's "gOd's wRaTh." And if you do know these character, you should be perfectly capable of forming your own reasoning as to how The Spectre is superior to them, with feats and actual evidence. Because at this moment, you've done none of that. You absolutely did concede Spectre isn't the third strongest, you acknowledged that The Presence, Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos are superior to The Spectre. That's three people superior to The Spectre, meaning that The Spectre can at most be fourth place. That site is very clearly incorrect for numerous reasons such as:
1. Superman and The Flash are on the list, but superior beings such as Hal Jordan, Captain Atom and Shazam are not. All three that I just listed have better feats than both Superman and Flash.
2. There's literally only three characters from Vertigo, which factually has the strongest characters in DC. I hope you actually know what Vertigo is.
3. The rankings within the list are incorrect, and there is absolutely no evidence given to support them. No feats, no comic issues, no nothing.
Also I don't know what nonsense you're on, I've given the whole ass comic issues, which is better than a scan. You know who hasn't given any evidence at all though? You. You haven't once given a scan, you haven't once given a comic issue, you've simply assumed Spectre is superior to people that he is very much inferior to, and your only "reasoning" is some of the most neanderthalic and inane logic possible. So I'm going to ask, do you have any scans, comic issues, or actual evidence to prove your claims?
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Galactus meanwhile tried to deny Spectre beating Zor then tried to compare Zatanna to God's wraith. It looks like your the one who doesn't know who Spectre is mate. Something's wrong with the caps on your keyboard. Might want to get that checked. I did use my own reasoning but you predictably denied them because you don't like being proven wrong. I'll break it down for you then. You'd agree right that no one is superior to God. There's Lucifer and Micheal but then there's God's wraith. I never claimed Spectre is definitely in the top 3, anyway I said there have been arguments that Spectre is. Micheal isn't as free as Spectre is.

When it comes to the beginning of the list I too disagree but when it comes to the very top of the list that's when it becomes more consistent. You never gave any examples of Hal Jordan, Captain Atom and Shazam being better than Superman and Flash. You don't have to now because I agree but just saying. There's plenty of feats in there. It mentioned who Anti-Monitor's killed and in which comic, it mentioned Eclipso's involvement in the Noah's Ark and with Spectre himself it says how he killed the Lords and Agents of Order and Chaos without much effort, and he also de-powered Mr. Mxyzptlk. There's no scan. Meanwhile I sent a link that destroyed everything you said. Try and be careful before embarrassing yourself with statements like "I don't know what nonsense you're on". The irony can backfire on you.

Example (apart from the ones I included) are when he depowered Eclipso, as Jim Corrigen (cool name) he would eventually dominate Zor (Zor only stood a chance at first because Jim was still getting used to his powers), freeing Hal from Parallax and beating Anti-Monitor. Apart from 3 people no one is superior to Spectre in DC.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/spectre/4005-2361/forums/spectres-feats-571499/
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I literally acknowledged Spectre beating Zor, or did you miss that? Both have beaten the other, that says they're comparable. Meanwhile SS Zatanna has destroyed Zor. That at the very least puts her on the same level as Spectre and Zor, so your claims that she's nothing to Spectre are incorrect. You didn't use your own reasoning, you gave a list which you agree is at least partially inaccurate, so that doesn't even work. And your reasoning is faulty, you didn't acknowledge any of the characters I mentioned at all. But since you admit Lucifer and Michael are superior to The Spectre, let me break it down how everyone I listed is also superior to The Spectre.

First off, Mazikeen. She literally has Lucifer's power. Throughout the entirety of the 2016 Lucifer series, she has his power and is equal to him. Oh yeah, and even before getting Lucifer's powers, she was able to fight against a fully powered Michael Demiurgos alongside Gabriel Hornblower. Mazikeen = Lucifer > Spectre.

Next up, Gabriel Hornblower. Gabriel is comparable to both Lucifer and Michael. So that immediately puts him above The Spectre. Also for a time Gabriel wielded a weapon made by The Presence himself, and said weapon allowed him to damage The Presence.

Next, The Endless. Death of the Endless alone was stated in a guidebook to be more than a match for Lucifer in willpower.

Lucifer himself explicitly said she's inevitable.

And as Michael died, Death was able to claim him.



Ah, and she also claimed Destiny of the Endless.

Destiny's book can't be taken by Michael, btw, and all existence is in his book.


Destiny is also the source of The Basanos' power, and Mazikeen (who as said above equals Lucifer) considers them dangerous.

And last, but not least, Elaine Belloc. Elaine is God. Presence literally gave her his position as God.

Lucifer implied that Elaine could defeat the Dark Presence, who equals the original Presence.

And finally, she restored all of Lucifer's power. With ease.

So yeah. Mazikeen, Gabriel Hornblower, The Endless and Elaine Belloc are all vastly stronger than The Spectre.
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Galactus No your still wrong. It looks like your just making this up as you go along. Zor never defeated Spectre. The only reason why Spectre didn't destroy him at first was because Jim was still understanding his power and wanted to become human again. Jim would later go on to wipe the floor with him. It's still astounding that you think someone like Zatanna is comparable with God's wraith. What a joke.

Mazikeen was a mortal who was given those powers by Lucifer. If she sins, the Spectre will come for her. You called Gabriel comparable to Micheal and Lucifer but you've also said Zor and Zatanna are comparable with Spectre so I'll that point with a pinch of salt.
Death of the Endless is in a weird spot. She is inevitable but she doesn't go out and fight. Time will do that.
Elaine is someone who I suppose you could say is more powerful than Spectre. The only thing that makes me sceptical of her is that she struggles with her powers and she's died before.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Zor literally won in the comic I gave you, and he explicitly stated that he was superior to The Spectre in power. And you keep saying Spectre is God's Wrath as if that title is actually relevant. Being God's Wrath hasn't stopped him from being beaten by Parallax. Or being so much weaker than The Anti-Monitor that he needed all magicians in DC to amp his power so he could merely contend with Anti-Monitor. You seem to use naming fallacies a lot.

Your point there is irrelevant, Mazikeen still holds all of Lucifer's power. If Spectre came for her, he'd get obliterated because as you admitted, Lucifer > Spectre. And Mazikeen equals Lucifer. Unless you think Spectre can affect Lucifer, he's not going to affect Mazikeen. And she was able to wound Lucifer. Something Spectre isn't capable of doing.

Actually, it was Mike Carey who said Gabriel is comparable to Lucifer and Michael. I assume you're aware that Mike Carey wrote the entirety of the Lucifer comic run.

Whether she goes out and fights is irrelevant, she still very clearly has superior power to The Spectre, because she has claim over beings leagues beyond Spectre in strength, such as Michael Demiurgos. Also you completely ignored Destiny of the Endless.

You suppose Elaine is stronger? She literally became God. She literally became the thing that gives The Spectre his power. And Elaine's death happened before she became God, so that's irrelevant to the version of Elaine that actually matters. Similarly, she only struggled with the Dunamis Demiurgos that Michael gave her, not with the position of God.
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Galactus You didn't include Zor beating Spectre in any of the scans, check again. Do you deny that Spectre is God's wraith? This isn't a self-proclaimed title or a fallacy it's who he is. Spectre's beaten Zero Hour Parallax before and he didn't "merely contend with Anti-Monitor" he stopped him.

If Mazikeen sins the power of God would come after her. She's not more powerful than that.
Comparable doesn't mean stronger, especially when you say it.
By your (faulty) logic Death of the Endless is better than everyone except the Presence then.
Your lying or ignoring important evidence so that dismantles anything for Destiny of the Endless too.
When Elaine wasn't God she's weaker than Spectre. Is she still God?
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I literally gave the issue where Zor beat The Spectre, so... I have acknowledged the fact that Spectre is God's Wrath numerous times. The issue is that THE TITLE DOESN'T INSTANTLY MAKE HIM SUPERIOR TO EVERYONE. That is a naming fallacy, assuming a name or title instantly means a character is superior to another. Spectre did not beat Zero Hour Parallax, Parallax won that fight, hell, Kyle Rayner even thought Spectre DIED. And no, Spectre stalemated Anti-Monitor, and it was only after being amped in power by all the magicians in the DC multiverse. Base Spectre wasn't even strong enough to stalemate Anti-Monitor.

Spectre is not the power of God, he's the Wrath of God. And you completely ignored that Mazikeen equals Lucifer and can damage Lucifer, who you admitted is superior to The Spectre.

I literally never said comparable means stronger. The entire point is that Gabriel is on par with Lucifer and Michael, which therefore makes him superior to The Spectre.

Ignoring how my logic (which is factual) wouldn't put her above Lucifer, Death being above everyone who isn't Lucifer and The Presence makes complete sense. Because she has claim over Michael.

Wow, you accuse me of lying or ignoring evidence yet give absolutely nothing to support that, and you give no evidence to support how the evidence I gave for Destiny is incorrect. The only person who's been ignoring evidence here is you, man, considering that you've consistently ignored the facts of how strong the likes of Mazikeen and Gabriel are.

Can you prove that Elaine prior to becoming God is inferior to The Spectre? Or are you just assuming that she is? And she definitely isn't inferior with the Dunamis Demiurgos, as she gained all of Michael's power. And yes, Elaine is still God, because the entire reason I brought her up is because she became God. That's the only version that really matters right now.
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Galactus You literally didn't give the issue with Zor allegedly beating Spectre. I never said being God's wraith suddenly makes him superior to everyone. Don't assume (again). Parallax was amped up. During Blackest Night Cripus Allen Spectre easily tore Parallax out of Hal Jordan before Krona claimed it. Spectre stopped AM. He won. Aztar wouldn't had a problem.

And where does Spectre get his power from? Mazikeen doesn't have that power now.
Spectre's also comparable to Micheal and Lucifer so that doesn't automatically make Gabriel better.
Death is outside all this. She doesn't fight.
I've called you out on your lies before (e.g. no evidence for Zor winning). Re-read the replies if it helps.
Spectre is definitely going to beat a girl before she had the powers of God. How is that a question. If she sins the Spectre will come for her.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) You're actually the one lying there, I did give the issue Zor won. Once again, More Fun #55. You use Spectre being God Wrath as reasoning for him beating people and that's your only reasoning. Logic would say you think that instantly makes him stronger than most. Parallax was amped in Zero Hour alone, and he absolutely destroyed Spectre. In Blackest Night, Parallax (without amps) bodied Black Lantern Spectre and then almost killed Spectre. Read Green Lantern #51 again, because Spectre did not easily separate Hal Jordan and Parallax, Spectre was about to get killed before Star Sapphire had to help him separate Hal and Parallax. And even then, they had to struggle. Here's the scans, because you clearly need to see them again.


Spectre stalemated Anti-Monitor. He did not beat him. And once again, Spectre had to be amped by all magicians in the multiverse. Base Spectre couldn't do it.

Getting power from God is not the same as being the power of God, like you said Spectre is. And the Mazikeen I was referring to is the one who has Lucifer's power, so whether she currently has it or not is irrelevant.

Spectre is not comparable to either of them, you'd have to prove that he is. The comics themselves say Spectre is absolutely nothing to Michael, even when he doesn't use his true power of the Dunamis Demiurgos.

Death not fighting is irrelevant, she still has superior power to The Spectre, which is the entire point.

I proved how the only one lying is you, and all I'm seeing is that you don't have any rebuttal whatsoever to Destiny of the Endless being superior to The Spectre.

Prove it. Prove Spectre beats Elaine with actual comic book evidence instead of your assumptions. And Dunamis Demiurgos Elaine, who equals Michael, would casually put Spectre down, considering that again, Michael without the Dunamis Demiurgos already defeated Spectre.
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Galactus Zor never beat Spectre in that issue. He trolled Jim just as he was getting used to his powers. Jim later went on to beat Zor more easily from then on. I've already given you feats of Spectre. The fact that Spectre even challenged Micheal shows his strength. Those scans literally showed exactly what I said. Spectre helped remove Parallax from Hal Jordan. Spectre could have and would have destroyed it. I'm confused as to why you helped me though. Thanks I suppose. Spectre stopped AM. He won the day.

It is relevant whether she has the power now because you always use the current version.
Micheal and Lucifer are sons of God while Spectre (you guessed it) is God's wraith.
Death can claim Spectre if he dies but she isn't the cause. Spectre has nothing to fear from her. You keep calling important points irrelevant. No wonder your confused.

I haven't lied only you have (e.g. claiming Zor beat Spectre). Is Destiny of the Endless backed by the Presence? It looks like whenever your backed into a corner you tend to just turn it around on me and ask the same thing. Just because your losing credibility doesn't mean I have.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) You have given zero Spectre feats. You haven't given a single scan, nor any comic issues. You say Spectre's beaten Zor, prove it with scans and comic issues. Just challenging someone doesn't prove strength. Superman challenged The Spectre once, does that mean he's comparable to The Spectre now? No. And even if that was how things worked, Michael. Did. Not. Use. The. Dunamis. Demiurgos. He. Did. Not. Use. His. Full. Power. You said Spectre separated Parallax and Hal on his own, stop lying. And prove that Spectre could have destroyed Parallax on his own, because the comic itself disagrees. Spectre did not stop Anti-Monitor. Read Crisis on Infinite Earths #10 again. Spectre (who again, was amped by all magicians in the multiverse) briefly delayed Anti-Monitor. Then in issue 11, Anti-Monitor is still just going about his day and Spectre was rendered catatonic. Anti-Monitor won that.

You do not always use the current version, I can give so many examples on this site of that not being the case.
1. Thor - The current 2019 depowered Thor is not the one used.
2. Hulk - The current Immortal Hulk has a separate profile to base Hulk.
3. Superman - Rebirth Superman is not used, exclusively Post-Crisis Superman is used.
And you do realize that I was the one who brought up Mazikeen, and I was the one who decided what version was being used for this discussion, right? Now, do you concede the fact that Mazikeen with Lucifer's power is superior to The Spectre?

You didn't prove Spectre is comparable to either Lucifer or Michael, try again. Being related to God doesn't mean they're comparable, that is extremely neanderthalic logic. That's like saying because Zatanna and Mister Mxyzptlk use magic, they're comparable. Show actual scans proving that Spectre is comparable to Michael and Lucifer.

Yes, she can claim Spectre, she has power over him. Prove Spectre has nothing to fear from her with actual scans.

Zor beat Spectre in More Fun #55. That is factual. And yes, you have lied, you claimed I never gave evidence for Zor winning, I did so. And yes, Destiny of the Endless is backed by The Presence. I doubt that you're aware, but The Endless are primal aspects that control every single aspect of The Presence's creation. And the members of the Endless rule over a concept given by The Presence. Then there's also the fact that The Endless exist above creation while Spectre is made to serve within creation, as Michael said.

Nice, you didn't even respond to anything related to Elaine, I suppose you don't have any evidence to prove your claim that Spectre is superior to her.

Now, because I clearly have to ask this, do you have any... actual scans? Or comic book issues? Because you haven't provided any of those. All you've done is claim things without any actual backing.
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Galactus I literally said Spectre killed the Lords and Agents of Order and Chaos without much effort, he also de-powered Mr. Mxyzptlk and he went on to beat Zor.

I never said Spectre tore Parallax from Hal by himself. Like I've said, it helps if you re-read the replies since you have bad memory. Sinestro literally says "come to me Parallax. Before the Spectre destroys you". It looks like you haven't read it. The comic disagrees with you. Spectre was able to prevent Am from doing what he wanted. That's a win. Not sure how you thought AM won. Strange.

Thor Odinson has his powers again and Bruce Banner is the Hulk again. Superman hasn't changed majorly to make noticeable differences in battle.

If Mazikeen has Lucifer's powers then that means Spectre can now beat Lucifer. He either beats Lucifer or Mazikeen.
Death never beats those who die, she just claims them.

You literally said earlier that Zor was comparable to Spectre then changed it to him beating Spectre afterwards when you started losing. It's just you who lies.

I already debunked what you said about Elaine. Re-read the replies.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) You haven't proved that any of those things happened. Give scans to prove he's beaten the Lords of Order and Chaos. Give scans to prove he's depowered Mxyzptlk. Also, that's not a scan. That's a Google search, give me an actual scan proving that The Spectre is superior to Zor. Hell, one of the scans in that Google search has Spectre saying the words; "Once, you were stronger than I, your magic more potent than mine, but those days are long past." Spectre had to get stronger over time to become stronger than Zor, so once again, More Fun #55, Zor defeated Spectre and was more powerful than him. Thanks for proving that.

You actually did. As quoted from you; "Spectre easily tore Parallax out of Hal Jordan before Krona claimed it." This has been proven false, and you clearly didn't acknowledge that Spectre needed help from Star Sapphire to separate Hal and Parallax. The comic disagrees with you, clearly you can't see how Parallax was utterly bodying Spectre until Sinestro came in and restrained Parallax. Oh, and Sinestro's statement doesn't mean jack, because HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT PARALLAX. Now, Hal Jordan, someone who actually knows both Parallax and The Spectre, said; "He was scared of Parallax." And then Parallax (who was casual and toying with The Spectre), in the process of overpowering The Spectre said; "Save me, Carol? No. No, I'm not the one who needs to be saved. The Spectre will be destroyed!" Then there's the fact that Spectre only landed one hit on a casual and toying Parallax the entire fight. The comic shows Parallax > Spectre. Anti-Monitor left Spectre catatonic and was perfectly fine afterwards. Once again, re-read issues 10 and 11. Anti-Monitor came out of his conflict with Spectre, who still had the power of all magicians in the multiverse amping him, and was perfectly fine. Meanwhile Spectre was left catatonic and unconscious for the rest of the entire event. Issue 12 literally says Spectre is comatose. That's a win, for ANTI-MONITOR.

Thor is still drastically weaker than he once was, yet his profile on the site uses Thor at his prime consistent levels in the 616 universe. Current Hulk is still Immortal Hulk, yet his profile is base Savage Hulk. Superman's power level drastically differs between eras, I don't know how you aren't aware of that fact.

Or, HE DOESN'T BEAT EITHER. You cannot say Spectre can beat Mazikeen, because have not proved Spectre can beat Mazikeen. Mazikeen is equal to Lucifer Morningstar, who is superior to The Spectre. That is factual, and you've given no comic book evidence that says otherwise.

You didn't respond to anything related to Gabriel Hornblower, or Destiny of the Endless for that matter.

And again, Death claims them, which means she has power over them. Your logic says that one would have to actually beat another person to be more powerful than them, which is incorrect.

Or, if you could think with actual logic and powerscaling, one can beat another character and still be comparable to them. You seem to think that winning a fight instantly makes the victor more powerful, however that is not even close to the case. I haven't lied once, meanwhile you have lied several times. Also I love how you think you're winning when you haven't given any legitimate evidence for your claims (you've given one scan this entire debate, and even then it wasn't a scan it was you searching on Google), you've straight-up just made things up, and you use the most basic and neanderthalic logic possible.

You did not, your last reply didn't even mention Elaine Belloc, you never gave any scans or comic evidence proving your claim that Spectre is superior to even Elaine as an Angel, and you never gave any scans or comic evidence proving your claim that Spectre is superior to Elaine with the Dunamis Demiurgos.

You also didn't answer my question on if you have any actual scans or comic book issues to prove your points. Not sure if you're aware, but here, people like giving scans and/or comic book issues to prove their claims.
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Galactus https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/576107475434995735/593207003396964374/main-qimg-71bde75c4b70aaf31c92f4fa9436ce8e.webp Lucifer here without a will called Spectre nothing more than a bugger. Imagine what Lucifer 2000 thinks of him? Now I have many problems with this debate tbh, but I will ignore that for now. Lucifer is a being who has scaled the whole Void, folded it with one hand. Saw Creations in an eye blink which he didn't need to do because his Omniscience was well established.

Now Spectre is a being that is still inside the map, he can travel to higher realms, do insane feats, but he never ever was in the Void, outside of not only DC creation, but all creations. Never was inside darkness, never scaled Void, never beat Michael or tanked his Demiurgos blast while powerless, never was able to be stated when powerless, to erase Death and make her shut up which I got scans for. Tyrannus, seriously... What is Spectre gonna do? Lucifer has been stated to never lose, plus was shown above any being he encountered so far aka Endless, Angels, Michael, Spectre, Source, Gabriel which I ofc have all scans and proof for, if you could make a discord account it would be easier.

Elaine and Presence are a special case, they would be the only ones with actual proof above Lucifer. Michael is only a near contender, as shown. And he negged Spectre without Demiurgos power, which Lucifer tanked powerless. Nor did Michael really try, no scratches and then 2 hits and Spectre was down.

And Michael also weakened Spectre and put a limit on his power. Spectre also assumed the Source was only an aspect of Michael or any other Arch Angel.
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Galactus https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536655425152745482/593215547358052354/RCO002.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536655425152745482/593215734885122068/RCO006_1468877043.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536655425152745482/593216037244370947/Di12XVQW0AEd7NJ.jpg

There it shows Elaine sees dimensions and creation as nothing, plus that nobody but YahWeh could have pulled off the feat Lucifer did which is folding the Void with one hand.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534132164317544489/549350273286537237/main-qimg-4fc54e73e7384bf2805a4e7c23bf3380.jpg

Here it is stated by Morpheus that Lucifer is the 2nd strongest being after YahWeh.
Lucifer was shown to know of his death, and here warns her, as she agrees Lucifer is above her.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/AvbsEiRUBzNd69UP3jNErNe0hkuHTsi0BEHvrFU18mlaQXl1PQH_TntJGGUq8qMJKZT8a6jpJbR0=s0

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https://2.bp.blogspot.com/p2naSow4n_ZTrQDUo1fgGs9MmIJxWjwKLrMWOIThgLOxHc1T6ieu8MwLuK9XNtd7JdsPFNfjRxUk=s0

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As you see creation was gonna end and Michael wanted to prevent that from all costs, and it would have not effected him, Elaine nor Lucifer because he was only worried about it when his creation got involved too. So Michael dared Destiny who scaled above the map, Michael told Destiny he can take the book any time, and also the Endless know Michael fucks them as does Lucifer as proven. Destiny said if the book gets away from his hands, then creation ends immediately, and that is what Michael is trying to prevent. While Spectre would die if creation ends, unlike these chads.
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Galactus Zor never actually beat Spectre even in More Fun #55. Even you admitted that earlier but you've changed your mind which is why I have a hard time believing you. Do you deny the image as fact? If you do then I've won.

Still didn't say he tore parallax out himself. Try again. You've literally been disproved by your own scan when Sinestro admitted Spectre was going to kill Parallax. I don't really believe anything you say about Sinetro since you're known for lying especially since Sinestro is the founder of the Yellow lantern corps which uses fear. You didn't show Parallax "toying with The Spectre" you showed Spectre about to destroy Parallax. Parallax was at Spectre's mercy. If you read #10 and #11 you'd see Spectre stops AM even though AM was amped. AM wasn't allowed to complete his objective because of Spectre. Success.

Give Thor time he'll be back. Hulk and Superman aren't that noticeably different (e.g. Superman can still fly, use heat vision and all the other things that make him Superman and they're both still strong)

If Lucifer gave his powers away to Mazikeen he's now weaker than Spectre. Before he did so Mazikeen is weaker. Either way who've just proved yourself wrong.

Already answered Gabriel and Destiny of the Endless. Re-read replies.

Spectre has nothing to fear from Death. If he dies it wasn't because of her it would be becasue of something else. Your giving her too much credit.

You have lied (e.g. when you said Zor wins when you admitted earlier that he was just comparable). When you get caught out you try and turn it on me and fail. To be fair your scans are helping me just fine.

I didn't say read my last reply I said read my replies meaning I answered it earlier than that. Elaine as Elaine only is weaker then Spectre.

It's not "people here" it's just you because you can't accept when your wrong. Don't worry, your already helping me with the scans so it looks like your already seeing things my way.

Lol how many times to you say "once again" even after I've debunked what you said.
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Galactus @Lucifer He called him a bugger because Spectre didn't stay with him to watch the sunset. However I see your point. I believe you may be right. Thanks for the clarification
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Dude, are you unable of getting the specific scans or issues to prove your claims? Why do you keep sending Google searches instead of the actual scans? Also you never proved he depowered Mxyzptlk with either of those.

Zor did indeed beat Spectre in More Fun #55, and it was explicitly said he was more powerful than Spectre. I did not once say Zor never beat Spectre, stop lying.

You literally did. You said Spectre easily tore Hal from Parallax. Which is a lie because it wasn't easy, and Spectre needed help from Star Sapphire, a fact you overlooked. If you weren't saying Spectre did it alone, you would have acknowledged that Star Sapphire had to help him. You literally ignored the rest of the scan where Parallax was dominating The Spectre and was going to murder him before Sinestro restrained him. I've disproved you calling me a liar, Sinestro literally doesn't know **** about Parallax, he got his neck snapped in Zero Hour before Hal even became Parallax. Out of all the Lanterns there, only Hal has intimate knowledge of both Parallax and The Spectre. Parallax wasn't absolutely not at Spectre's mercy, there is literally nothing in the fight that even implies that. Anti-Monitor was perfectly fine in issue 11 and Spectre was comatose, that's not a win. And you keep overlooking that SPECTRE WAS AMPED.

Thor doesn't have his original power back yet, so again, his profile doesn't use the most current incarnation.

Hulk is drastically different, Immortal Hulk and Savage Hulk are two entirely different beasts.

Clearly you aren't aware of the massive power differences between Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis and New 52 Superman. Pre-Crisis Superman has consistently shown multiversal feats, such as his clash with Jaxon that reset all timelines, being stated to be capable of resetting the flow of time itself, countering the energy of an entire Green Lantern Corps that can match The Time Trapper, etc. Post-Crisis Superman has shown feats on a universal scale, namely shattering a space-time continuum in his fight with Golden Age Superman, fighting on par with Orion, who survived a weapon capable of annihilating a universe, fighting against Brainiac-13, who can ravage timelines, etc. New 52 Superman has shown large star level feats, such as statements from himself and Cyborg Superman that he could tank supernovas, fighting evenly with Orion, who destroyed half a star system. See the huge differences?
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Anti-Monitor (AU) What are you even on... the entire point of this matter is Mazikeen with the Morningstar power being superior to The Spectre. Base Lucifer without the Morningstar power (who you would still have to prove is inferior to The Spectre) is entirely irrelevant. Do you concede the fact that Mazikeen with Morningstar powers is equal to Lucifer with the Morningstar power and therefore superior to The Spectre?

You did not. You claimed Spectre is comparable to Lucifer and Michael, I asked you to prove it, you said they're comparable because they all relate to God (which is not how it works), I explained how that logic doesn't work, and asked you to provide scans proving Spectre is on par with Lucifer and Michael, you said nothing.

With Destiny of the Endless, you asked if the Endless were backed by The Presence. I explained how they are. You didn't respond to that.

Prove. That. He. Has. Nothing. To. Fear. From. Her. Give. Scans. Proving. That. If he dies, she claims him, plain and simple.

Once again, you can beat someone in a fight and still be comparable to them. I know you don't understand this simple fact, but at least try to keep up. Once again, I haven't lied once, but you have done so, several times.

You never proved that. I asked you to prove that, and you never did. You've only said Spectre is superior to base and Dunamis Demiurgos Elaine, but you've never given any comic book evidence to prove that.

Okay, so according to you, I'm the only person on this site who gives scans and evidence to support their claims. Would you like me to give the multitudes of examples proving you wrong there? All my scans do is prove you keep misconstruing the comics or blatantly ignoring feats.

You've debunked literally nothing, you just dodge things that you have no response for.
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Galactus You originally said More Fun #55 showed Zor as comparable now you've changed your mind and denying it. More lies. Your backtracking now.

I never said Spectre tore out Parallax alone. The scan started off with Spectre rejecting a Red Lantern ring so I'm not sure what your on about. Don't believe you at all with Sinestro given your history of lies. You keep overlooking that AM failed his objective and was also amped but there we go.

I said Thor, Superman and Hulk will return to normal soon. Be patient

Either Mazikeen has the power and Lucifer loses or Lucifer has the power and Mazikeen loses.

You didn't answer how she isn't the cause off death, she just claims them after they've died.

I've already agreed with Lucifer so the essay you sent was kind of redundant.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Yes, and it still shows that. I never once changed my mind on that. Once again, a character can beat another in a fight and still be comparable to them.

You never once acknowledged that Spectre needed help from Star Sapphire and only said Spectre tore Hal out of Parallax, you even said Spectre did it easily, which is not what happened. Again, your claims that I lie have been proven incorrect, and you also haven't proven that Sinestro would know anything about Parallax's strength, considering he never got to witness it in Zero Hour. Anti-Monitor had a brief inconvenience. He was immediately back at it again in issue 11 and Spectre was rendered comatose by the entire event. That's not a win for Spectre.

No, you said Thor will return to normal and only Thor. And that still doesn't change the fact that the current version is not always the one used. And you can't even say Superman will return to normal, New 52 Superman's large star level strength is normal for him. Yet it's not what's used for the main Superman profile.

You'd have to prove Spectre can beat base Mazikeen or base Lucifer before you can say Spectre wins. And you didn't answer the question, so I'll ask again. Do you concede that Mazikeen with the Morningstar power would beat Spectre?

You didn't reply to anything with Gabriel Hornblower, Destiny of the Endless or Elaine Belloc.

She claims them the moment they die (not after, btw), her not being the cause doesn't matter. If she can claim a being, she has power over them. You also didn't prove that Spectre has nothing to fear from Death.

Then you agree that Mazikeen with the Morningstar power beats Spectre as well, because she equals Lucifer with the Morningstar power.
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Galactus Zor was comparable but he never beat Spectre. Until you show me any evidence it's wrong.

I'm not sure what your so upset about this point. I never said Spectre was alone but your kicking up a fuss about something so small. Did AM achieve his goal then?

Now your just nitpicking about Thor and Superman. Did Mazikeen have the power of God's wraith? Try answering my questions before I answer yours.

Already answered those 3. Read the previous replies.

By that (faulty) logic Death has killed everyone who's ever died. Doomsday never killed Superman it was Death of the Endless then right? You've yet to prove she has power over Spectre.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Spectre didn't defeat Zor, Zor said he was more powerful than Spectre, and Spectre agrees with the sentiment that Zor was his superior at that moment. That's a win. And since you admitted Zor is comparable to Spectre, that brings this back to Seven Soldiers Zatanna, who defeated Zor, aka she defeated someone comparable to The Spectre. That means at the very least, Seven Soldiers Zatanna is comparable to The Spectre.

I don't know what makes you think I'm upset, but aight. You never acknowledged that Spectre needed Star Sapphire's help to separate Hal and Parallax, you only said that it was Spectre who separated them. That very clearly makes it seem like you think that it was only Spectre who did it, which is not the case. Anti-Monitor wiped out all the universes but one and caused the Post-Crisis retcon, so he pretty much did succeed. Meanwhile Spectre's off somewhere comatose.

That's not a nitpick, it's facts that Thor is nowhere near as strong as he used to be and N52 Superman is not as strong as the Superman used on this site, Post-Crisis Superman. You're the one who said the current version is always used, and that has been proven incorrect.

For the last time, having the title of God's Wrath doesn't equal instant superiority like you think it does. No, BASE Mazikeen isn't God's Wrath, but considering that God's Wrath has been beaten and contended with by beings that have literally zero relation to God whatsoever, his title doesn't mean jack. And Mazikeen Morningstar is equal to Lucifer Morningstar, who you conceded is superior to The Spectre, so I assume you concede Mazikeen Morningstar is superior to The Spectre.

You did not answer them, I asked for you to give evidence that you never provided. And with Destiny, I answered your question and then you said nothing. So I'll ask you again: Can you prove The Spectre is comparable to Lucifer and Michael and can you prove that The Spectre is superior to base Elaine and Dunamis Demiurgos Elaine?

That's not even close to what I said, but that is technically the truth. I have proved she has power over The Spectre, as she claimed Michael Demiurgos, is superior to Destiny of the Endless, who I already proved is beyond The Spectre, and Death's own feats such as being above The Void (which Spectre's absolute maximum power is equal to) put her above The Spectre. Now, you prove that Spectre is superior to Death, because you haven't proven that he is.
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Galactus Do you have to send an essay every time you reply. I know you upset but still. You conveniently ignored the part where I told you your replies are redundant now becasue I've come to an agreement with what Lucifer said.

Still no evidence that Zor was stronger so it's still wrong.

It's spelt "alright" not "aight". I never said Spectre alone removed Parallax. Check again. Spectre prevented AM's final goal so he failed like you are now.

Don't believe you with your history of lies.

Lol we both know you won't stop saying that for the last time. I kind of want you to say it again now. If Lucifer gave his powers away to Mazikeen the Lucifer loses. If Mazikeen hasn't got the power yet Mazikeen loses.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Again, don't know what would give you the idea that I'm upset, but okay. And okay, you agree that Lucifer bodies Spectre, you literally already said that. The problem is you not understanding that several other people would annihilate Spectre.

Uh, More Fun #55 literally says Zor is more powerful and Spectre himself says Zor was more powerful. Do you need to see the scan for that again?

You really can't be talking about misspellings, but if you want to be petty like that, okay. Also aight is a slang word, so you're incorrect about it being misspelled anyways. You literally said Spectre did it. You didn't once mention the fact that he had help. Logically, one would assume you think Spectre did it alone. Spectre didn't prevent Anti-Monitor's final goal, he was still at it in issues 11 and 12.

Something you haven't proven to exist, you're just dodging again. Honestly, all I'm seeing here is that you don't have any evidence to support any of your claims of Spectre being superior to Gabriel Hornblower, Death of the Endless, Destiny of the Endless or Elaine Belloc.

Prove it. You still haven't proved that to be the case. In fact, considering you just said you agree with Lucifer, you concede that base Lucifer sees Spectre as nothing, because he literally gave scans where Lucifer considered Spectre to be an annoying bugger. And once again I have to ask, do you concede that Mazikeen Morningstar is superior to The Spectre? That is the entire point I'm trying to get across here.
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Galactus They way you answer and the fact that you're replies are so much longer than they need to be shows agitated you are. It's ok though because you tend to calm down whenever I call you out on it. You obviously don't read all the replies like I told you. I meant the LuciferMorningStar who replied here.

Zor never actually beat Spectre and that's what you said.

Given that your the most petty person here that's hilarious to hear. You still make assumptions. I never said Spectre did so alone did I? You assume I did, which was wrong. Given that you now know you're wrong that should be the end of the matter. Spectre was hosted at the time. His host is still vulnerable.

Already answered all 4 of them before. You're just repeating a failed question now. Lucifer called him an "annoying bugger" because he didn't stay with him. Relax. To answer that, no Mazikeen without Lucifer's power is not stronger. That's clearly not your only point you're trying to get across considering how long you're replies are.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) That's just how I reply, my dude. You're just assuming that means I'm agitated.

More Fun #55. Zor beat Spectre and is stated more powerful than him.

Prove that I'm petty. And yes, it would be logical to assume you think Spectre did it alone because you never once mentioned the fact that he had help. Spectre was actually removed from his host, as explicitly shown in Issue 51, Parallax ripped away the Black Lantern Crispus Allen to free The Spectre.

You have not. You've refused to reply to them, or give evidence in relation to them is what you've done. But hey, you clearly think you have responded to them, so you should be perfectly capable of reiterating them, right? So, reiterate how Spectre is comparable to Lucifer and Michael with scans and comic book evidence. Reiterate how Spectre is superior to base Elaine and Dunamis Demiurgos Elaine with scans and comic book evidence. Reiterate how Spectre is superior to Death and Destiny of the Endless with scans and comic book evidence. My question was not Mazikeen without Lucifer's power. My question was Mazikeen WITH Lucifer's power, which is why I referred to her as "Mazikeen Morningstar." Do you concede that she is superior to The Spectre? And yes, my entire point in bringing up Mazikeen was specifically her with the Morningstar powers, I didn't say it was my only point across the entire comment.
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Galactus If that's normal for you you might want to take it down a notch. It's weird and a little bit funny.

Still no evidence of Zor winning so it's still wrong.

For one thing, you keep going on and one about Spectre not being alone when Parallax was removed even though I never said he was. Not sure what the big deal is.

If you're not reading properly that's you're problem not mine. I haven't edited or deleted my comments so they're still for you to read. Want more proof, here it is;
https://www.fortressofsolitude.co.za/12-most-powerful-characters-in-the-dc-universe/
So you admit Mazikeen without Lucifer's power is weaker then Spectre?
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I haven't gotten complaints from anyone but you, so I see no reason to change how I do things.

I literally just gave the entire issue, that's called evidence. More Fun #55.

Okay, let's start over then, because we're getting nowhere. Do you agree that Parallax is consistently superior to hosted Spectre?

That just seems like you ducking. Again. You should be capable of reiterating your points, no? That fanmade list isn't proof, I don't know how you still think stuff like that actually qualifies as evidence. Hell, this list is almost as bad as the last one, it has Superman Prime One-Million on it, and Prime One-Million is completely featless on his own.

Never said that, and not the point. Stop dodging and answer the damn question. Do you agree Mazikeen Morningstar is superior to The Spectre, yes or no?
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Galactus I'm not complaining either. It is funny how you reply sometimes. I just found it weird how you're replies tend to be so long over things so little.

You gave the name of a comic where Zor doesn't win. He trolls Spectre at best. Simply claiming he wins doesn't mean he wins.

Parallax has been so far. So you agree Spectre unbounded beats Parallax?

It's not like I'm hiding my replies. Who else knows but the fans (and the writers of comics)? Are you not a fan? So many people believe that way except you. Having X amount of feats doesn't mean anything. Superman and Batman have more feats than anyone else in DC but that doesn't suddenly make them better then someone like Spectre.

You didn't answer my last question so I feel no need to answer yours
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I enjoy debates, so I tend to get very into it and give long explanations.

Trolling him would still imply Zor won. It means he's so powerful that he can just toy around with Spectre and not take the fight seriously.

Okay, and you should be capable of reiterating your points, right? The amount of feats matters when a character has literally zero or very little feats on their own, such as Superman Prime One-Million. The only reason it's possible to even determine what his attack potency, speed, durability and etc. would be is scaling him from the main continuity Superman.

You haven't ever given me any evidence to support Spectre being superior to base Mazikeen, who can fight against Angels and Demons (while Spectre is prevented by Michael from entering Heaven), so no, I didn't admit Mazikeen is inferior to Spectre, I never said anything like that. Now, answer the question. Do you concede Mazikeen Morningstar is superior to The Spectre?
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Galactus OK then... Just remember they're not real.

He never beat Spectre though. Check again. All he does is annoy Jim Corrigan by kidnapping Clarice Winston.

You conveniently ignored my question which pretty much confirms from you that Aztar destroys Parallax. We got there in the end didn't we.

It doesn't matter in the case of Superman Prime One-Million. We all know he gets his powers from the sun and if he spent all that time in the sun we already know how OP he's going to be.

There's no shame in losing to Micheal who only major threat is Lucifer and the Presence himself. Is Mazikeen an aspect of God in the form of God wraith?
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Again, Zor trolling Spectre implies that he won. Trolling someone in a fight might as well be a victory.

Huh, I could have sworn I answered that. Weird. Anyways, yes, unbound Spectre beats Parallax.

No, we don't. The boost Superman gets from being in the Sun is unquantifiable. We have no idea how much stronger he got, how much faster he got, etc, etc. Again, the only reason he would have any values for those statistics is by scaling him from the main continuity Superman. And based on that, Superman Prime One-Million is nowhere near the level he is placed on the list, hell, he wouldn't even be stronger than Darkseid's emanations.

Ugh... Stop. Dodging. My. Question. Answer it already. Do you concede Mazikeen Morningstar is superior to The Spectre?
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Galactus Kidnapping Clarice Winston isn't winning at all. Spectre got her back no problem. That's like saying every time Joker annoys Batman he wins.

That's exactly the point though, you don't know how powerful he if so you can't say for certain he shouldn't be placed on that level. Normal Superman's been able to compete with Darkseid so Superman Prime One-Million should definitely do damage

Sure. If she has the power Lucifer doesn't so Spectre can go after him.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) I didn't say that was winning. I said being so powerful you can troll and toy with your opponent is essentially winning.

You can't say for certain he should be placed on that level either. And no, a casual Darkseid has one-shot Pre-Crisis Superman (Superman's most powerful canon incarnation) in the past, and Pre-Crisis Superman is superior to the highest level Superman Prime One-Million can be scaled to without headcanon.

Can you prove that to be the case with scans and comic book evidence?
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Galactus You said "Zor trolling Spectre implies that he won" which he could couldn't do.

Superman's been shown to beat Darkseid around before like when he thought Supergirl died. I personally believe that was bad writing but that fact that he was shown to do that shows how strong he was. Pre-Crisis Superman is good but he's nothing to Superman Prime One-Million. He never spent as much time as SPOM did in the sun which only multiplied he's powers.

When he gives his powers away Mazikeen has it now not him so he's vulnerable to God's wraith.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Wanna retry that sentence? You said "which he could couldn't do."

Pre-Crisis Superman's feats blow everything about Superman Prime One-Million out of the water. Pre-Crisis Superman reset infinite timelines. Superman Prime One-Million hasn't done anything on that level, and there's nothing that even implies he can do something on that level.

That's not scans or comic book evidence.
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Galactus We both know Zor could win so it's alright.

You are joking. SPOM can control over life and death (e.g. bring Lois back from death and created an indestructible body for her) and able to give powers to other Supermen. Pre-Crisis Superman was just a strong Superman, nothing special. You need to look into SPOM.

It's also the truth.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Okay then.

SPOM didn't bring Lois back on his own. He needed the help of a fifth-dimensional imp named Lzyxm Ltpkz to do that.

Also where are you getting that indestructible body stuff from? Nothing in the scan says that. And even if SPOM had done it alone, that doesn't put him above Pre-Crisis Superman. Pre-Crisis Superman reset the infinite timelines in the multiverse, and Superman's energy was able to counter that of the Future Green Lantern Corps, who could match the Time Trapper, who can wipe out all time in the multiverse. Pre-Crisis Superman has consistently shown multiversal levels of power, SPOM has not, so there's nothing that puts SPOM above Pre-Crisis Superman.

You haven't proven that to be the case.
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Galactus Number of feats doesn't help here. Superman gets his power from yellow suns. SPOM spent centuries in the Sun. You're telling me that Pre-Crisis Superman who had no where near that amount of exposure to the sun could ever compete with SPOM?

He no longer has the power to protect himself therefore the Spectre will could come after him.
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Superior feats do help though, and Pre-Crisis Superman has the superior feats. He would not only contend with SPOM, he would casually tear him apart, because SPOM isn't even shown to be a universe buster meanwhile Pre-Crisis Superman is shown to be a multiverse buster.

Can you prove that with comic book evidence? And just because Spectre comes after someone, it doesn't mean he's superior to them (cough cough Michael without the Dunamis Demiurgos cough cough).
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Galactus Just because SPOM doesn't have that many feats doesn't mean he's automatically weaker.

I can prove that. Spectre stopped AM didn't he?
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Anti-Monitor (AU) Ok All of that is true
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Anti-Monitor (AU) @Tyrannus You're pretty much right. Think of the Spectre of the Presence's diplomat who he sends to impose his will on others, the embodiment of his wrath. The more backing from the Presence Spectre has, the more powerful he becomes. It also depends whether he is bound to a host or unbound. Unbound and backed spectre, which is how he is depicted most of the time in battles, is second only to Presence and the Angels. He is weaker if he is bound or doing something outside of gods will.
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