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Lucifer MorningstarvsBeyonder

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lucifermorningstar876
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Beyonder Change my choice
LadyGaladriel1212
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Beyonder Gonna change my vote

Also why do people downvote this battles? I find it stupid that people downvote battles just because they don't like the outcome of it.
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lucifermorningstar876
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Beyonder Yes, my nickname is like Lucifer, but without any fantasy fiction, I am sure that Lucifer will win beyonder
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Ot
OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder lol fangay
lucifermorningstar876
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Beyonder I'm taking a regular beyonder if it's a pre recton beyonder then it's a beyonder win
Darks
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Beyonder Prb is more powerful but lucifer wins thanks to his iq and cunning, Beyonder is like a child
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Ot
OtinDaku 1 mo 10 d
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Beyonder that child beyonder is post-retcon, not this one.
Darks
Darks 1 mo 9 d
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Beyonder @OtinDaku No both are the same
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder no they are no the same lol
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder Pre retcon Beyonder was the living embodiment of the beyond realm.
He was not related to the beyonders/Ivory kings in any way.
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder However, Post-retcon Beyonder AS OF RIGHT NOW is described as a ‘child unit’ to the Beyonders/ivory kings in New avengers #30 Jonathan Hickman.
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder So no, Pre retcon beyonder did not have any relations to the Ivory kings. However he was later retconned into being a child amongst them.
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder Get your facts straight
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Beyonder @OtinDaku Didn't the beyonder come about through the fault of the ivory kings?
Darks
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Beyonder and at the bottom you said beyonder is beyond the strongest toaa and even fictional lol
Darks
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Beyonder and beyonder will never be toaa level
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Darks
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Beyonder this is his most impressive feat
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Ezio
Ezio 1 mo 4 d
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Lucifer Morningstar This will be me if I see this picture one more time.
Darks
Darks 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder @Ezio Why :DD
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Beyonder @Ezio I dare you
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder "Didn't the beyonder come about through the fault of the ivory kings?"
The Beyonder is an infinite-dimensional, or beyond-dimensional, entity and was originally portrayed as the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe, and as the be-all and end-all of the "Beyond Realm"

A cosmic entity of immense power that embodied The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse. “God before Genesis”. He was said to be a million times more powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. He was everything outside of the Marvel Universe in a a realm beyond human comprehension. He was like the One Above All of his own realm.

The Beyonders (Pre-retcon):

The Beyonders (Ivory Kings) are a race of extra-dimensional entities powerful enough to collect planets. Their nature is so alien that they are unable to leave their own dimension and for millennia were never observed by any being of the Earth dimension.
Every now and then the Beyonders would impart a fraction of their energy into the universe, allowing sentient beings to use them to create Cosmic Cubes. They would eventually evolve into sentient beings able to warp reality and they would take a form to resemble the alien race they spawned from.

(Originally, The Classic Beyonder and the Beyonders were separate entities, it wouldn’t be till after the retcon they would become linked, each retcon got more and more screwed up and convoluted. The Beyonders were also revealed in physical form and were referred to by the name Ivory Kings).
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder "and at the bottom you said beyonder is beyond the strongest toaa and even fictional lol"
It really depends upon the situation, it's debateable but I won't argue with that.
Darks
Darks 1 mo 3 d
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Beyonder @OtinDaku Even the things you say are more than enough reason for him to be omnipotent
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Darks
Darks 1 mo 3 d
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Beyonder I changed my vote
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OtinDaku 2 mo 8 d
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Beyonder This feat alone is way above than any lucifer is capable of.
Imagine getting worshipped by your very own writers (Jim Shooter, Stan Lee and Al Milgrim)




Yes, He was made to be above and beyond everything around him. He entered Marvel representing everything that was outside of it. He was an unpolished Supreme God for all of fiction.

The original concept of PR Beyonder was made to be above and beyond everything around him. - ‘No force in existence can destroy him'. PR B had the full backing of Marvel's boss Jim Shooter to be limitless and infinite.

Quoted by Shooter as true omnipotient. The only limitations were the limitations he applied to himself to feel humanity and mortality. His knowledge of being mortal was extremely limited because he never had those concerns. Loneliness and boredom made him explore this. Death is a part of humanity.

Not to mention Beyonder is back and the defenders found him in the outside space, outside time and the void of nothing.
even the defenders stated that they heard the VOICE OF GOD and that is Beyonder.





therefore
Classic/Pre-retcon Beyonder > Lucifer
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Reaper
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not voted Big W
Xml
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Beyonder Beyonder is stronger than Lucifer
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TOBA
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Lucifer Morningstar This is not PRB.
MoNsTeR
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Neutral @TOBA this is pre-retcon beyonder
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Beyonder @MoNsTeR then why does it have the Post Retcon Beyonder photo hell everyone on internet uses this photo for PRB when this is from the comic where it was Post Retcon one
TOBA
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Lucifer Morningstar Pre-retcon beyonder was already retconned.
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OtinDaku 1 mo 4 d
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Beyonder facts
Sam_howell
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Beyonder only those who voted for beyonder. At least they read comics. for those who voted for Lucifer, I doubt it.
Atemporal
Atemporal 4 mo 14 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer blinks the verse.
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Aleazlllll
Aleazlllll 4 mo 14 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Hahahaha no
mouxiez
mouxiez 4 mo 14 d
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Beyonder Classic Beyonder slaps. If we are talking post-retcon Lucifer slaps
TOBA
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Lucifer Morningstar many @Users are deluded here to think that Lucifer will win.
TOBA
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Lucifer Morningstar A classic beyonder will win. he had no legitimate weaknesses, even when he himself limited his own strength, he was still able to overcome everything in his path, be it the contradiction and paradox of the said limitation. and in addition to that, he was Marvel's First TOAA.
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Juggenaut
Juggenaut 8 mo 5 d
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Beyonder You have fully convinced me
ThorTheThunderer
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer is almost as strong as presence himself. Beyonder is strong but no where near him.
SNK68
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Lucifer Morningstar So, since Lucifer is a participant in this battle, then by default there is a one true Infinite/Omnipotent God because you can't have one without having the other.
Lucifer is second only to the one true infinite Omnipotent God and therefore above all other existing beings across all of God's creations, the Beyonder being one of God's creation like all other existing characters in all of the infinite Omniverse.
Though I truly think that Lucifer's power levels are a joke, come on, 4240B for the second most powerful being in all of God's creations in all the infinite Omniverse is just 4240B? Lucifer's powers should be Nigh-Infinite. Anyways, bottom line is, the Beyonder is nothing more than a spec of dust under Lucifer's nail. This battle is a no brainer.
mkelley291
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Beyonder Stalemate or Lucifer with high difficulty.
Lucifer can only manipulate existing matter, as he needs needs Michael's Demiurgic power to make Megaverses. Beyonder can do whatever he wants, he just has the mind of a child and is prone to vanity. overall, Lucifer might win, but with Michael's help in doing so.
Trigon
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Beyonder I changed my voice, simply because Lucifer is just a manipulator while Beyonder is just omnipotent.
it is a source of unlimited power.
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wade
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Neutral How you take in the words 'unlimited power' or 'omnipotence' from a comic is completely subjective. If the Beyonder was omnipotent, then Molecule Man should be too. And, if you use the excuse "that's what the writer said, so you can go argue with the writer," I'm not going to waste my time by arguing that Odin is not omnipotent.
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Trigon
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Beyonder if lucifer is more powerful than Beyonder so it can definitely be said The Presence is more powerful than TOAA.
Lucifer_Morningstar_Prime
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Lucifer Morningstar The Beyonder would certainly put a good fight but still Lucifer would win
impulse785
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Lucifer Morningstar While I do think Lucifer would win

Beyonder would give him a good fight
Infinity
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Beyonder Classic Beyonder> Lucifer Morningstar> beyonder post retcon
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Ub
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Lucifer Morningstar no lucifer was stated by the writer of vertigo that lucifer was above the writer himself
wade
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Neutral @Ubermaster68 Show proof?
Doctor_Manhattan
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Lucifer Morningstar is there anyone here to say about 88% of Lucifer's votes are bots?
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Atemporal
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Lucifer Morningstar Why?
God_of_Humanity
God_of_Humanity 11 mo 24 d
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Lucifer Morningstar There are no bots
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DevilgGod9 8 mo 6 d
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Lucifer Morningstar No
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Rage444 1 y 1 mo 15 d
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Lucifer Morningstar If Lucifer was in Marvel, he would have been an aspect of TOAA.
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Lucifer Morningstar fr
Doctor_Manhattan
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Lucifer Morningstar Do you think Beyonder will beat Lucifer?
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Knull
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Lucifer Morningstar truth hurts so it is.
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Lucifer Morningstar people really voted for beyonder 😟
TashPuddle
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Lucifer Morningstar Stomp.
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LuciferGod 1 y 5 mo 5 d
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Lucifer Morningstar lucifer has already beaten omnipotent beings..so pre retcon beyonder got nothing
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Trillxgy
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Beyonder If they were Omnipotent, they wouldn’t lose.
Mind
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Lucifer Morningstar Agreed!
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LuciferGod 1 y 4 mo 16 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Fiction Dude
MoNsTeR
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Neutral nigh-omnipotence dudes
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Beyonder The Beyonder was retconned and Lucifer is still the 2nd most powerful DC higher up next to God. Yeeeeaahhhhhh GG Beyonder
RihoAEW
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Lucifer Morningstar Do not forget Mephisto tricked Beyonder in Secret Wars II
Meerrahmat
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Beyonder Hahaha 😂🤣😂 lucifer beat beyonder nice joke 😂😂😂 😂😂😂 I can't control my Lough
Pre recton beyonder is truly omnipotent and embodiment of beyond realm and lucifer beat
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DeanDinosaur6
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Lucifer Morningstar He is not truly omnipotent. Lucifer defeats him.
Meerrahmat
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Beyonder Nice joke 😂😂 lucifer beat nice joke brother 🤣 Even the presences can't beat maybe vertigo lucifer good battle with beyonder but beyonder in beyond realm no chance against
Meerrahmat
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Beyonder (R165) what lucifer powerful than beyonder and gwenpool what the hell bro are you serious you say lucifer powerful than beyonder 🤣🤣🤣
Meerrahmat
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Beyonder Tell me why you say lucifer powerful than beyonder
Meerrahmat
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Beyonder But lucifer can't close beyonder and you say he can beat
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RuneKing 1 y 5 mo 17 d
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not voted lucifer is the 2nd strongest being in the entire dc universe and yu are comparing him to beyonder bro yu lack knowledge
Meerrahmat
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Beyonder No way lucifer is 2 strong Even the presences is not 2

The writer
Milkman
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Parlay etc powerful than the presences and you compare to beyonder how
Meerrahmat
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Beyonder And beyonder 2 most powerful being in Marvel and jim shooter confirm beyonder above all writers and beyonder control writer mind
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Lucifer Morningstar So, is that including Stan Lee and Jack Kirby? Can a fictional character come out of a comic book and go inside the writer's brain? Oh wait, Beyonder is a fictional character and Stan Lee is a real person. Now I think your getting the idea here. Lucifer slaughterstomps Beyonder so hard the Marvel Universe breaks into infinite pieces.
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Meerrahmat
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Beyonder No Jim shooter confirm beyonder above writer mean beyonder above Jim shooter and beyonder will supreme being in marvel and you say lucifer can beat maybe lucifer can beat human form of beyonder but he can't beat true beyonder and beyonder embodiment beyond realm. And beyond realm million maybe trillions time bigger than marve and beyonder say marvel reality equal maybe all marvel create mean beyonder imagination create marvel reality and you compare lucifer lol the presence can't beat beyonder lucifer can equal marvel molecule man no beyonder
Trillxgy
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Beyonder Pre retcon beyonder stomps
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Meerrahmat
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Beyonder 100% agree
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LuciferGod 1 y 5 mo 5 d
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Lucifer Morningstar not even in his dream
ShadowMan983
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Lucifer Morningstar it would be a great fight but morningstar wins.He is omniscient nearly omnipresent and nearly boundless/true omnipotence he is the 2nd strongest being in the dc multiverse(debatable) has survived 3 big bangs has recreated the entire dc multiverse has survived attacks from his brother which were said to be able to destroy a universe each without a scratch defied the presence flew to the overvoid and became it.Has killed his brother who is arguably nigh omnipotent and taken his powers.When the multiverse had been recreated he said that he had already been to this version of the multiverse.Ripped casually pages of destiny's book who is said to have things about the future,past,present,all possibilities,all things that could happen,everything that has and hasnt happened and even things from the real world.I have to go with LM
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MoNsTeR
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Neutral i think elaine belloc and great evil beast are above lucifer
Enternity10
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Lucifer Morningstar
Lucifer Stomps
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BlotskyA
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not voted Just Add a Link in between and you will post an Image
Pedrof
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Lucifer Morningstar Yes but it has to be jpg
chidaambrose
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Beyonder What is going on how lucifer is powerful than beyonder. Pre retcon beyonder is powerful as TOAA.
So how could lucifer can defeat.
Dont say that lucifer killed presence when he is corrupted actually he didn't defeat him literally
And more over he is corrupted.
But beyonder can also do this.
So I would say fight will be stalemate or beyonder wins
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ta
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Neutral Lucifer stomps dummy.
spidey_akrj_24
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Lucifer Morningstar You said Beyonder is as powerful as TOAA. You also said that Lucifer killing the Presence is illogical. Congratulations, you played yourself.
LM
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Lucifer Morningstar They are both really powerful but lucifer just look more impressive
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not voted I think Lucifer can take this. However,both omnipotent,there are types of omnipotence. And Lucifer is among the ones with the Universe!
Dormammu10
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer basically outsmarts beyonder times infinity
AaronZeki
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer easily, and it looks like people still compared these two guys just because "They are equals" started by fanatics long ago
UNKNOWN_
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Beyonder They must be equal. Lucifer got overrated just by tv series?
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MoNsTeR
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Neutral Nah Man Comics >>> Tv series
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DevilgGod9 1 y 10 mo 12 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Who said that.. Tv series didn't show Nothing... Beyonder is nothing in front of Lucifer
Uzumaki_Naruto
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Beyonder @devilgGod9 Lucifer is nothing in front of Beyonder
chidaambrose
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Beyonder @DevilgGod9 then you don't know about beyonder in the comic . Pre retcon beyonder is actually marvel god before toaa introduced. So he is equal to him
But lucifer is always below presence.
So please don't say lucifer wins
And moreover beyonder can win this or else stalemate
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Beyonder Can someone tell me what feats does lucifer have that puts him above beyonder? The only was I see it is that Lucifer can possibly outsmart him but in a straight up fight I don’t see lucifer winning and I’m willing to listen to anyone as long as they don’t wank cause I’ve seen quite a few guys who wank dc characters to insane levels where they don’t actually belong. Feel free to debate me
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TH0R
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Lucifer Morningstar There are so many feats about lucifer that I'm confused which one to tell.LOL
Yatharth
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Beyonder @TH0R even one would be enough
Yatharth
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Beyonder Still waiting on feats for lucifer which puts him above Beyonder. All feats that I know about lucifer doesn’t even make him close to Beyonder so just trying to see does Lucifer have some more feats which makes him above or something?
Oblivion
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer blinks Beyonder,thats all you need to know.
Yatharth
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Beyonder @oblivion lol I think it’s the other way around. Show me proof what feats does lucifer have that makes him above Beyonder. Hell I can argue that Beyonder would clap the entire dc cosmology minus the overvoid
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Lucifer Morningstar Beyonder defeating Source and GEB?
Yatharth
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Beyonder @atemporal yes quite easily



The source was clapped by 3 sky father. Beyonder would pimp slap the source and Lucifer beat GEB/Corrupt presence which beyonder can do as well
Atemporal
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer never beat GEB haha
Yatharth
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Beyonder @atemporal
Yatharth
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Beyonder Geb is actually a part of lucifer
Atemporal
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Lucifer Morningstar That is another Lucifer, it is not connected to the Lucifer from the 2000 series.
Yatharth
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Beyonder Ok how about this?
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Lucifer Morningstar
Lucifer assembled a triumvirate in case GEB attacked, Dark Presence is not the same as GEB.
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Lucifer Morningstar Dark Presence isn't yahweh or Geb
Yahweh is dead and confirmed by author of holly black,author of Lucifer 2016

a random seraphim blinks beyonder,a fodder who isn't capable of directly affecting concepts,while Lucifer casually creates his own verse.
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Lucifer Morningstar The Presence is not dead ...
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Beyonder @oblivion “fodder who isn’t able to affect concepts” Beyonder literally erased the concept of death lol wtf are you on? And regarding that “beyonder needed to make death drink the poison” what do you think if Beyonder wanted he couldn’t have forced open Death’s mouth and erased her? Lol dude. Also Lucifer supposedly created a multiverse but later it turns out it’s just a universe and even if we assume that Lucifer created a multiverse he’d still get fodderized by Beyonder cause he’s omniversal
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Lucifer Morningstar İ am just posting what author says.
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Lucifer Morningstar He ereased the concept of death?
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He first needed to make a poison with a very large amount of his power THEN needed to make her drink it,fodder tier concept hax right there,Lucifer can erease endless who are more impressive than any concept in Marvel with little to no diff,Omniversal is a marvel fan bs which no one cares,ewing admitted omniverse is a synonym for multiverse,Beyonder is uncountable infinite d while Lucifer is multiple layers above outerversal.
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Beyonder Ohh the death of endless

The endless are above anything in marvel ahahahaa lololol

The death of endless which lucifer says that she has no claim on him is nothing impressive as as the humanoid form of death of endless is just universal beyonder would casually blink her out of existence
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Beyonder And as for Beyonder being infinite-d already debunked you before beyonder is not bound to any dimensional limit
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Lucifer Morningstar Bro perpetua got his power 20 billion years ago,Lucifer 2016 chronologically isn't that old,also world forger is dead as well but he is mentioned in death metal.
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Lucifer Morningstar You have no idea about dimensional scaling,transcending infinite d makes you uncountable infinite d,(Low outerverse level) go take your comicvine tier wank elsewhere.
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Lucifer Morningstar Did you see the link that I put? the author declares that he is not Presence, on top of that Presence appears in more recent comics. (We know you hate vertigo but leave your hate out)
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Beyonder @atemporal Perpetua is all claims and no feats

as she states in here that she needs time to destroy a universe after she destroyed one

And batman who laughs also confirmed this that Perpetua destroys universes one by one

Beyonder causally destroyed the multiverse several time Perpetua would be one-shotted
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Lucifer Morningstar Beyonder never destroyed a Multiverse.
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Beyonder And why are people bringing other characters feats in here I asked for lucifer feats not Perpetua or any other character
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Lucifer Morningstar He was telling Oblivion, who said the Presence was dead.
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Beyonder @atemporal



Beyonder destroyed the multiverse in here as stated by Molecule man that he repairs the multiverse wide destruction
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Lucifer Morningstar There is a significant difference between erasing and damaging the multiverse.
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Lucifer Morningstar I'm not saying that he is not infinitely above the Multiversal, but he never really erased or completely destroyed a multiverse.
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Beyonder Ok cool here’s one feat too he destroyed all of space till the end of infinity though it was repaired by molecule man later on.
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Beyonder Also I’m waiting for some Lucifer feats.
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Beyonder @oblivion dude I’ve seen you everywhere wanking the f out of DC characters why don’t you show some lucifer feats. And you use dimensional tiering from Vs battle wiki that shows that how bad a debater you are lol
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer sees creations rise and fall.


All those creations were destroyed by Silk Man.

This being with such immense power, is afraid to face Lucifer

Erase the Silk Man
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Beyonder Beyonder views all of Marvel as a drop in the ocean compared to him
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Lucifer Morningstar İn the next panel,Lucifer ereases silkman with a thought,Dream,whose power reaches beyond his infinite layered 1A archetypal domain where he stores lower fictions admitted he is nothing compared to Lucifer
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Lucifer Morningstar DC Cosmology makes marvel look like vatican
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Lucifer Morningstar The ocean declaration refers to a universe (or if you want the multiverse, it is not at the TOAA level)
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Lucifer Morningstar Universal DOTE LMAO
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Beyonder It refers to an entire cosmology as it’s stated Myriad dimensions in there
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Beyonder @oblivion he erased a being who created a multiverse or perhaps an omniverse still not quite on beyonders level who’s infinitely more powerful than all of marvel
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Lucifer Morningstar Silk Man did not create anything, those black dots are creations. destroyed by just appearing.
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Lucifer Morningstar Lol Silkman is outerversal like the rest of vertigo
Lucifer destroys logoz the tower of yahweh (outerversal superconstruct) with a touch

Lucifer destroys outerverse level realm,silence mansion via existing in it
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Beyonder Well then I assume that killing Silkman wasn’t all that great huh?
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Beyonder I just came hare to say that there's nothing like outerversal lvl realm LOL
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Lucifer Morningstar ?
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Beyonder he destroyed an outerversal tower [the word outerversal makes no sense] show me scan of that tower reaching throughout the creation then only lucifer destroying it would be a good feat. Also Beyonder has caused multiversal destruction several times so no bigge @oblivion you gotta try harder than this seems like your wank is getting weak huh lol
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Lucifer Morningstar Silk Men was an immortal being from a previous creation, a being that just by appearing destroyed creations.

Apart Slik Man explains that to reside in the void you have to have a certain power.

What is in fact true
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer folds the void,which lies beyond silver city
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Lucifer Morningstar Outerversal logic applies to dc
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Beyonder Realms are small parts of universe
Saying outerversal lvl realm is just like saying planet lvl house.
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Lucifer Morningstar Oblivion, Lucifer is not limited by the city of silver. the void is outside the Multiverse and where creations / Multiverses / megaverses rise and fall, Lucifer is directly in the Overvoid.
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Beyonder @oblivion destroying the silence mansion is no big deal either





Read the scan before you post it lol it’s clearly stated it *CONTAINED* infinite rejection universes as in past tense they used to contain failed universes the demons plan were to get them close to universes and bring them back to life by some magic mumbo jumbo

Lucifer destroying what is cosmic equivalent to dead fetuses isn’t that impressive
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Lucifer Morningstar The mirrors of the mansions of silence were destroyed by a ship, Mazikeen says they are fragile.
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Lucifer Morningstar I also want to explain something, the word "Universe" is used to refer to the Multiverse, just as Ultimates in Marvel uses the word Omniverse as a synonym for Multiverse.
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Lucifer Morningstar Beyond d isn't a size measrument,Lel lets just ignore Lucifer scaling to a higher cosmology and having better feats,such as being beyond sphere of gods which scales above any realm in marvel,being above dream,and scaling to yahweh,not to mention his godly concept hax which allows him to shape the meanings of platonic concepts,and he can erease the endless with ease,destroying a higher dimensional realm via existing,keeping up with michael who embodies infinite forms of existance and concepts,or stuff like Lucifer outsmarting god tiers of the verse,Beyonder multiversal destruction lel,ye cool logic.
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Beyonder @oblivion being above the godsphere is still considered being inside the multiverse he didn’t go beyond the overvoid. And Beyond realm lies beyond the marvel omniverse.

Scaling to yahweh, presence himself isn’t omnipotent as he says that I was shaped by forces external.

He can erase the platonic concepts.

“He can” And beyonder already did it

“He can erase the endless”

Already proved humanoid forms are only universal

“Keeping up with miachel” and Miachel has died before

and lucifer also stated he intends to survive this meaning he can be killed to

Already told that Lucifer can only outsmart beyonder in a fight beyonder would slap Lucifer
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Lucifer Morningstar
The union of Father and Mother Night made all versions of creation possible.

Glory established the laws of creation And for the endless
Lucifer is infinitely superior to these beings.
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Lucifer Morningstar https://imgur.com/a/YV5E5
^^lucifer's will can shape a superior cosmology
lucifer escapes god's plan
İn 2018 Lucifer reaches a realm stated to be beyond reach of yahweh


Logoz is the first world ever sung to existance
Destiny's book contains every story in existance


Lucifer casually burns it
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Lucifer Morningstar Michael didn't died duh,he got absorbed by elaine
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Lucifer Morningstar Oblivion, Are you using a Composite Lucifer?
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Lucifer Morningstar Yes,since prime earth version was considred as unnecessary by the mods,i assume this is comp Lucifer
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Beyonder @oblivion

“Lucifer will shaped a superior cosmology” and how exactly is it superior both cosmology in on omniversal level









Lucifer burning a book of destiny of endless

Even someone like RKT has done a feat similar to this and Beyonder is way powerful than him.

“Logoz is the first word which swung into existence”

So? Destroying it doesn’t mean destroying the entire creation bruh

“Escaping god’s plan”

Which proves presence to be even more vulnerable.

Presence himself admits that he is shaped by forces external which proves he isn’t omnipotent

Stop wanking I already mentioned in my post I’ll only debate those guys who don’t wank
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Beyonder And did I mention that lucifer has died before?

and it was implied that “he might survive” meaning even will can be killed. Beyonder had literally no issues in beating the shit out of everyone. And coming out unscathed he had to be transported to beyond realm as a kid otherwise he wouldn’t have been defeated
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Lucifer Morningstar Beyonder does not scale the Omniverse, he is only superior to the LT.

The Presence contains absolutely the entire DC Omniverse
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Lucifer Morningstar "It becomes tricky to negotiate if you start inviting real religion into it and we're not going to do that," Rucka added. "But the sort of unspoken rule in the DCU is that the Judeo-Christian God sits above all others. And then below that you can have your New Gods and your Greek gods and whoever else you want."
https://www.cbr.com/rucka-reveals-final-crisis-revelations/
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Lucifer Morningstar You are ignoring feats we posted,i see

^^Beyonder gets outsmarted and banished to another dimension by strange,while Lucifer convinces gods to kill themselves easily.
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Beyonder @atemporal you seem like a reasonable person. Let me explain it to you.

First of all Infinity Conflict is NON-CANNON that’s why TOAA is still omnipotent.

The living tribunal [Classic] is God’s judgement and guards the entirety of Marvel and I already proved above that Marvel has an omniverse which means He guards all of IT

So Beyonder being above Classic LT makes him omniversal by default. Then there’s also him viewing marvel as a drop in the ocean compared to him don’t get confused by “UNIVERSE” read the next word as well Myriad dimension which refers to entire cosmology or even if Downplayed at least a multiverse so being infinitely more powerful and bigger than Multiverse makes him Omniversal level.

And it seems like Lucifer has some feats which can be scaled to Omniversal level too.
Then the fight can go either way

And here are people saying utter bullshit like Lucifer blinks I mean wtf? Beyonder is no joke
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Beyonder @oblivion already agreed to that point in my first statement that Beyonder can be outsmarted so how am I ignoring scans? You were the one who’s delusional and said “LUCIFER BLINKS” sorry buddy but he doesn’t not in forever. Beyonder is no joke so saying words like fodder is also laughable cause he rivals the likes of Presence and Lucifer who are the top of cosmology also Beyonder said he had me in disadvantage “He might have trapped me in a dimension as I was drunk” note might have that means doctor strange couldn’t trap him.
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Beyonder So I didn’t knew some of lucifer’s feat and now I do agree that the fight can go either way
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LT is megaversal, the Omniverse includes absolutely everything in Marvel, because unless you are using it as a scale no one is Omniversal in Marvel except TOAA
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Beyonder @atemporal it’s written LT exists in every all multiverses note ALL MULTIVERSES meaning he guards the entire omniverse so that’s why he’s not megaversal.

But let’s just assume he’s megaversal even then as I said above Beyonder viewed a multiverse as a drop in the ocean [downplay* as a He viewed the entire marvel as a drop in the ocean which is the beyonder] but let’s assume that he just viewed the multiverse as a droplet which means he’s infinitely bigger than it and stronger as well.

How many multiverses are there in Marvel omniverse? Infinite so that makes beyonder omniversal hope this makes sense to you.
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer has the power of all the stars of creation.

"This place is above the real, it exists in the distant realms"

A mad star can rip all Creation apart

This is lesser power of Lucifer
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Lucifer Morningstar "First of all Infinity Conflict is NON-CANNON that’s why TOAA is still omnipotent."
Marvel fans who has no idea about multiversal debates...
Thatv isn't how we scale charecters here,omnipotence is paradoxcial and nonsense,Marvel 1As are pathetic bc of their crippling cosmology,anyways you have no feat puts Beyonder above uncountable infinite d(not like it matter since he gets blinked regardless) the comic stated beyonder as infinite d
Also lmao at Universal endless

DOTE will close the verse and lock behind her when its time,sounds universal.
And she is fodder to Lucifer

^^Silkman is a completely unique being,not bounded by yahweh,Lucifer blinked him

The Void (not overvoid) is infinite layered realm containing the stories,Lucifer casually ripped it and folded with ease.

^^Lucifer creates his own verse seperate from dc,creates his own adam and even,creates his own concept of death

Lucifer ignores Basanos,who is a replica of Destiny's book itself (which contains the verse)
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Lucifer Morningstar Proof that the void in vertigo contains the stories? (I have not read all of vertigo, actually almost nothing)
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Lucifer Morningstar That scan is from last issue of Lucifer 2000,those panels on void are events from earlier issues,void contains them all
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Lucifer Morningstar I know, but it doesn't say anything like that, and where do you get that Silk Man has his own verse?
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^Lucifer becomes void itself
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Lucifer Morningstar Silkman destroyed the creation,like you said above,i was thinking lucifer when writing that lmao,my fault
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Lucifer Morningstar He did not destroy creation, he destroyed entire creations something much more impressive.
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Lucifer Morningstar Bro comics doesn't have to say everything word by word,You can legit see past stories floating on void.
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Lucifer Morningstar Nor is it confirmed if Lucifer became the void or imposed his will, I think I read in a part that Carey said that Lucifer was imposing his will in the void.
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Lucifer Morningstar The way I see this fight is that both are similar in terms of power, but Lucifer is a master of manipulation. He would find a way to trick the Beyonder.
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Beyonder Beyonder won easily
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Lucifer Morningstar Not even in dreams lol
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Beyonder Way beyonder is more powerful all marvel multiverse and beyonder is truly omnipotent but marvel writer recton beyonder
Beyonder say all marvel multiverse create me and all marvel multiverse equal my imagen
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Beyonder The Beyonder is an infinite-dimensional,[26] or beyond-dimensional,[2] entity and was originally portrayed as the most powerful being in the Marvel Comics multiverse, and as the be-all and end-all of the "Beyond Realm",[27][28] that took human form to better understand the nature of human beings.[6]

The narration stated that he possessed power millions of times greater than the entire multiverse combined,[29] and that a regular universe was a drop of water in the ocean compared to the Beyond Realm.[30]

The Beyonder proved capable of destroying, and recreating, the abstract entity known as Death across the multiverse, although it extremely exerted and weakened him to do so. However, even in this state, he was capable of easily sending a horde of demons back to hell with a wave of his hand.[31]

Despite his power, the Beyonder has shown moments of vulnerability. He was overwhelmed when Rachel Summers returned the enormous powers that he had bestowed upon her along with the thoughts of the past and present beings in the universe, to the point that he collapsed on the ground,[32] and he was apparently slowed down in battle against the Molecule Man.[33] He also lost part, or all, of his power on various occasions, some of them engineered by himself.[29][30][34] He also stated that the Puma—when in perfect harmony with the Universe—was capable of killing him.[35] However, on another occasion, after trying to be a superhero by fighting a superpowered biker gang, the Beyonder stated that he limits his powers to keep them more in line with the world around him.[36]

After his creator, Jim Shooter, left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco re-tooled the Beyonder, diminishing his power greatly: He was no longer nearly omnipotent, and several of the cosmic beings who were previously established to be below him in power were vastly upgraded in conjunction.[18][37][38][39]

Nonetheless, the Beyonder retained his reality-warping powers, allowing him to control and manipulate matter, energy, and reality at a cosmic level beyond all but the strongest and most powerful of cosmic entities.

He repelled Galactus "like a bug",[40] and exceeded the collected energy of the latter's World-Ship.[41] He once destroyed a galaxy on a whim to meet his needs during the first Secret Wars,[40] and later created a universe out of his own being.[42] When the Molecule Man extracted the Beyonder from Kosmos, their battle took place in more than three spatial dimensions, and threatened to cause vast destruction across the multiverse.[18] In Kosmos' 'Maker' incarnation, she was stated as capable of reversing The Crunch itself, essentially collapsing the entire universe.[43] However, his scale of power was stated to be significantly below that of the Living Tribunal and Eternity,[42] the Celestials,[39] or the Molecule Man (when unfettered from his emotional weaknesses).[18]
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Beyonder There seems to be a lot of people projecting their religion or love of the show into their decision on this one. This is a case of "depends on the writer." Depending on what point you take from their respective comics, either one could win. I will vote at their most powerful for Beyonder.
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Beyonder thank U This page is full of lucifer tardheads...
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Lucifer Morningstar You are definitely correct, however even if there weren’t so many fanboys Lucifer would still be winning because he is just so much stronger and smarter than The Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar Beyonder is too powerful but Lucifer is much smarter so IQ > power, he will trick Beyonder
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Beyonder Lucifer lost to a bucket
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Neutral When?
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Beyonder I really wonder what the outcome of this would be if Lucifer didn't have his own show lol This farce is a popularity contest.
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Lucifer Morningstar @Verethragna I think outcome wouldn't be much different. I don't even watch that show which downplays Lucifer I prefer comics you should read too so you can learn more about Lucifer and his powers.
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Neutral @Oblivion That changes nothing.
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ThomasMHxDeaf 2 y 3 mo 18 d
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Lucifer Morningstar I think Lucifer wins. Lucifer was archangel. His father God. Lucifer fallen angel then he be a Devil is strongest and immortal. I know history Archangel Michael can defend Lucifer.
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Ak
Akash02 2 y 3 mo 7 h 49 m
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Beyonder at one point, the Beyonder was the god of the marvel universe until it was pre recton.
Beyonder = presence
ThomasMHxDeaf
ThomasMHxDeaf 2 y 3 mo 2 h 12 m
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Lucifer Morningstar I know Michael is Archangel. His brother Lucifer. Michael and Lucifer are strongest. I don't know Beyonder powers. Is he a archangel or angel?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 y 2 mo 29 d
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Lucifer Morningstar @Akash02 When did they say that?
DevyEZ
DevyEZ 2 y 2 mo 29 d
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Lucifer Morningstar That does not make you equal to The Presence, though..?
Ve
Verethragna 2 y 1 mo 9 d
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Beyonder What kind of tomfoolery answer is this...Are you mistaking Lucifer and Michael as historical figures? What difference does it make whether Beyonder is/isn't an angel? Michael isn't even apart of this match-up so leave him out of it. There are plenty of team matchups to go vote on for your weird obsession.
Ak
Akash02 2 y 4 mo 3 d
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Beyonder Beyonder wins Nuff saif
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DevilgGod9 1 y 10 mo 12 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Even Not in dreams lol
SuperSomebody
SuperSomebody 1 y 4 mo 26 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Nuff did not say that
InvertedQuantumSpectrum
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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not voted message
fo
forever8 2 y 5 mo 24 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer morningstar wins.. He can trick the beyonder
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 y 8 mo 3 d
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Lucifer Morningstar This sums up the fight
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 y 2 mo 5 d
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Lucifer Morningstar That's not Lucifer
Oblivion
Oblivion 1 y 11 mo 3 d
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Lucifer Morningstar @Tyrannus,that is Lucifer he wears that trenchcoat in dream arc of Lucifer 2016,that is him cracking the void
mkelley291
mkelley291 9 mo 23 d
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Beyonder @emptyhand, the picture is pretty cool, but in my opinion, the fight between lucifer and Beyonder would be a standstill.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 2 y 8 mo 3 d
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Lucifer Morningstar I also think this would be a stalemate.... kind of.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 y 8 mo 3 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Heck no
Laserblue
Laserblue 2 y 8 mo 14 d
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Beyonder Beyonder stomps, Lucifer got so much fanbase.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 y 8 mo 14 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Yeah no he doesn't lmfao
Ve
Verethragna 2 y 1 mo 9 d
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Beyonder @EmptyHand - You can not in all honesty sit there and tell me all these votes for Lucifer are not because pf the show xD This is a popularity contest and you know it.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 y 10 mo 7 d
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Lucifer Morningstar @HolyJoe what??
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 y 9 mo 12 d
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Neutral @EmptyHand I'm not entirely sure.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 y 10 mo 7 d
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Neutral Why is Lucifer slower than Beyonder?
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Galactus
Galactus 2 y 10 mo 7 d
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not voted He's drinking a martini and doesn't want to spoil it.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 y 10 mo 7 d
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Neutral That was actually kinda funny.
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 2 y 8 mo 10 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Because Lucifer stomp him completely
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 2 y 11 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer just slap for the win
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 3 y 4 d
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Lucifer Morningstar I think Lucifer wins. He is more impressive.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 4 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Yet you voted Beyonder
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 3 y 4 d
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Lucifer Morningstar (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 y 10 mo 7 d
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Neutral Cthulhu Outer Gods.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 2 y 8 mo 10 d
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Lucifer Morningstar A lot of people @BlotskyA.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 y 8 mo 3 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Not a lot of people
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 y 6 mo 5 d
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Neutral @Empty No, but Azathoth can.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 2 y 2 mo 29 d
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Beyonder Azatoth cant beat lucifer @Joe
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 2 mo 24 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer blinks
Oblivion
Oblivion 3 y 2 mo 24 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer is more powerful smarter and more durable
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 y 2 mo 24 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer one-shots.
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Oblivion
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Lucifer Morningstar Agreed
Breaker
Breaker 3 y 3 mo 9 d
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Beyonder -___-
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 3 mo 8 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer oneshots
Breaker
Breaker 3 y 2 mo 24 d
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Beyonder da f*** is this
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 4 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Feats and statements would suggest he would make the Beyonder his b*tch
Sb
Sbahhs 3 y 6 mo 11 d
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not voted Beyonder maybe
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 6 mo 11 d
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Lucifer Morningstar No Lucifer stomps
Sb
Sbahhs 3 y 6 mo 11 d
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not voted No lucifer has been depowered
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 6 mo 11 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Since when?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 y 2 mo 24 d
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Beyonder The House of Windowless Rooms arc.
Ak
Akash02 2 y 3 mo 7 h 47 m
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Beyonder Beyonder kicks
LuciferMorningstar
LuciferMorningstar 3 y 7 mo 17 h 12 m
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer Morningstar would make Beyonder eat his own pants.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 7 mo 17 h 8 m
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer would make beyonder his slave ;)
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 y 1 mo 23 d
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Neutral Lucifer would make Beyonder his b*tch.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 3 y 7 mo 19 h 10 m
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar Beyonder has power that Lucifer can only imagine.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 7 mo 18 h 49 m
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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SuperboyPrime
SuperboyPrime 3 y 2 mo 18 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar Wtf haha I can't stop laughing..
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 2 y 8 mo 10 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar U even think beyonder solo dc 🤣🤣
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DevilgGod9 1 y 10 mo 12 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar AkhikPDX u are funny😂
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jimmy1579 1 y 8 mo 22 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar @EmptyHand I completely agree with you all the stuff that Yatharth just said was nothing but B.S.
Am I right?
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 8 mo 27 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar Beyonder stomps lucifer
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 7 mo 29 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonder
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Lucifer Morningstar Nevermind, Lucifer stomps Beyonder, as ive learned more about Lucifer he really is a cut above the rest, including beings with nigh Omnipotent power such as Beyonder. For example, once he cracked the over monitor with his finger, so there for he claps over void with little effort, also most people say over void > presence but that is not the case, Grant Morrison admitted himself that the over void is just part of the presence(a very important and powerful part) but the over void won't with Against presence, nor will TOAA for that matter but let's leave Toaa out of context, Lucifer also clapped dark presence which isn't as powerful as normal presence but he still is comparable, and Lucifer absolutely destroyed dark presence, same with GEV, little to no effort win, he clapped the GEB as well, and Beyonder is not anywhere near any of those characters we just mentioned that Lucifer destroyed, Lucifer also weant out into the over void to create his own omniverse, so in conclusion, he wins this fight with absolutely no effort, the difference in power is basically a fly(pre retcon Beyonder) vs Beyonder (Lucifer) it's that big a gap. This is a stomp
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 y 7 mo 29 d
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Lucifer Morningstar *Geb & *Win. Some typos

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