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Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)

Created by Soulcollecter57, 4 y 2 mo 15 d ago.

A debate using the Official list of debating rules.

Link: https://www.superherodb.com/forum/offical-list-of-debating-rules/100-3121/

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soulcollecter34
soulcollecter34 3 y 6 mo 9 d
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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Stan Lee also said that he created Thor to be the most powerful superhero, if that's the case how does he have multiple losses on his record, Stan Lee doesn't write every comic book ever he is only responsible for mostly the silver age comics, that kind of thing varies greatly. And if time means nothing to the Gods, why do theu age and die? I like how you used that to justify speed but no feats, Thor has combat speeds comparable to that of Surfer who transcends time, so let's say speed would cancel out, you still have not disproven that Jiren and Goku have power that is infinitely above 3rd dimensional, or base universal, and the only one of those feats that can be considered above universal is him fighting Mangog, but that was before the retcon that can slap Thor and Odin at the same time, that was a weaker version of Mangog and he only achieved that by a magical enchantment, in a form of BFR not on his own power, all the others are at most universal, and regardless of any of that Goku easily transcends universal bu scaling him from the BOG arc in the Beerus fight, that still has uet to be disproven by anyone. I gave you the scan containing the multipliers for the super saiyan forms, and after all of that Goku is bare minimum 60,000x universal or 60,000x where base Thor's greatest feat place him. And that is a statement, in no panel anywhere in that comic did Thor prove he was above time, just a small statement with no evidence, that's why I say it's irrelevant
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soulcollecter34
soulcollecter34 3 y 6 mo 9 d
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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And about your other point, what you're saying doesn't make sense, if you, yourself give some context about the scan than it is not out of context so it shouldn't matter, that's what doesn't make sense there
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 17 h 18 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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@SirSpidey, you chose to join the debate I didn't force you, but since you want call me a p****y let's finish our debate here, the one that you "forgot" about, let's finish it here, your turn.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 17 h 13 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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... did you just... copy what you just said... but only with a fewer words? You are just beyond me @Soulcollector57
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 17 h 6 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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It didn't show up the first time I had typed it, so I retyped it, my computer glitched.
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 17 h 22 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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@SirSpidey first of all you chose to participate I didn't force you to do it, but since you want to call me a *****, let's finish our debate here, since you seem to have "forgot" about this debate let's settle it here, your turn.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 17 h 14 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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Did I say you forced me to join it? There you go reading only what you want again
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 17 h 7 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
81 months member
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Yeah, I never forced you, you had questioned why you would join and phrased it as if it was somehow my fault that you decide to join, considering the fact you felt I was capable of running one in the first place is why you joined, as you have seen in the past that I have run clean fair debates and events such as your debate forum against @LordTracer, it's hard to keep track of all the things going on so god forbid I make a few mistakes here and there, I have a very impressive track record, this is really that was really the only one I had messed up on.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 16 h 54 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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I didn't phrase it to make it look like it was your fault that I joined. How did you come up with that? I was just simply stating that I don't know why I joined something of someone who doesn't even know or follow his own rules. The fact of the matter is, I exposed you at your own game. You came at me and my partner saying that we are cheap and breaking the rules, but I shut your s**t down quick. Regardless if it is "hard to keep up with", or any other excuse you want to use, you were in wrong. You had no right to attack me and my partner like that and now we are here, debating Thor vs Goku. All because you decided to disqualify all of us. Not one, not two, but ALL OF US. I'm excited. I have three debates going at once and you want to talk about how hard it is to keep track of things. Let's hurry up and get this over with. There are other s**theads who need to be put in their place
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 16 h 41 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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I originally wasn't going to disqualify any of us, it was merely only to point it out and I gave us some leeway, both of our teams, because I wanted to debate you, but then you attacked me personally, and technically I didn't violate any rules, @MOP did so he should be disqualified, I did nothing wrong, my teammate did though, I have not violated any of the rules myself, until after overruling my original statement, so technically I should still be in the tournament, and all of you should still be because I overruled myself, but you wanted to call me a ***** so I overruled that, we could have continued but you did this to yourself.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 16 h 21 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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No, YOU did this to all four of us. You have the order of the events that just took place messed up. I called you a p***y completely after you disqualified us. You disqualified us because you were mad that I exposed you. And I didn't even know I was breaking any rules considering nowhere in the rules does it say anything about a one day time limit. In fact, it says that "Each debate has a one week time limit." So you are most definitely in the wrong for accusing me of violating the rules. However, you, individually, violated 'Rule 3' whenever you posted two comments instead of only one. So don't act like you didn't do anything wrong. Quit pointing fingers at everyone else and point it at your own d**ned self
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 16 h 14 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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In the originally rules it said 1 week, but I had modify it, to only 3 days, so that the tournament didn't drag on too long, and then I has forfeited @AndreasVer for taking longer than 1 day to reply, so it's only fair that I do the same for others, honestly I fucked up when I forfeited @AndreasVer instantly, but didn't forfeit your team instantly, so if anything I was in the wrong for something else that you failed to mention, @Manofpower violated one rule, @Wolfdragon123 violated one rule, you had violated 1 rule, and I had violated one rule, so since everyone involved violated a rule it's only fair we are all forfeited because @AndreasVer was for a similar reason.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 15 h 58 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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WRONG. This is what you, yourself, said:

"Reiteration of the Rules-
1. Order will be decided randomly by me.
2. Each debater can only defend their character, but can attack either of the other users characters.
3. it has to be back and forth only one at a time and each user is limited to one comment per turn, so use your space wisely.
4. Even if one persons character loses then the debate is over.
5. EACH DEBATE HAS A ONE WEEK TIME LIMIT.
6. Each member of a team can only post one comment per turn.
7. Total number of battle votes will not be counted as a means of victory for multiple obvious reasons such as a votes pervious to the debates commencement and thouse who will vote with out looking at the debate, the page is only for a means to be organized.
8. Scoring system is the same as the Offical rules of debate.
9. The judge for the battles will be decided after the tournament is set up."

So I still HAVE NOT violated ANY rules. Neither did @AndreasVer, or @wolfdragon123. Only YOU and @ManofPower have violated any rules. So nice try, but no cigar. TRY AGAIN
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 15 h 49 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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Here is the schedule for the tournament, but before I would like to note that since it is a round robin instead of bracket style, I ***decreased the time limit it 3 days so that is doesn't drag out too long***, so here It is:
Day1: Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @AkhilPDX) vs Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer)
Day1: Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) Team 2=Bye
Day6: Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion) vs Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @@AkhilPDX)
Day6: Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) vs Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer) Team 3=Bye
Day9: Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion)
Day9: Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) vs Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @AkhilPDX) Team 1=Bye
Day12: Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer) vs Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion)
Day12: Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 5 (@Soratoumiga and @AkhilPDX) Team 4=Bye
Day15(Final): Team 4 (@Soulcollecter57 and @Manofpower) vs Team 2 (@Dellmamy45 and @TheNemianLion)
Day15(Final): Team 3 (@Wolfdragon123 and @SirSpidey) vs Team 1 (@ElectroSpino and @AndreasVer) Team 5=Bye
It's right there, you waited until the third day to post anything and it was at the end of it, I'll count the evidence you gave prior to that in your original statement towards @Manofpower but the second set would not have been counted, and my claims after would not have been counted either, and you said it yourself that @Manofpower acted out of turn, but now you say he did nothing wrong, nice way to contradict yourself.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 15 h 26 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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What the f**k does that have to do with literally ANYTHING? The fact of the matter is, NOWHERE in your rules does it say ANYTHING about a one day time limit for how long you can post a comment. Why the f**k wouldn't all my comments be counted? I am in no violation of any rules. If you would like to show me how I am violating ANY rules, that would be greatly appreciated, but for you to try and say that my comment won't be counted, without stating exactly why, is a d**k move. WHEN THE **** DID I SAY @ManofPower DID NOTHING WRONG? You obviously have an alternate personality reading and perceiving things that aren't even there or something. Is it that you are so desperate to catch me doing something contradictory like yourself that you just make up something that I clearly did not do? Huh, fry brain? Is that it? I know you are new to being debunked so much in one setting, but it doesn't justify you panicking and making s**t up just to have at least a tiny bit of dirt on somebody. Just admit that you are completely in the wrong and move on. It really isn't that hard
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 15 h 18 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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Well would you look at that, I was wrong after all, I guess now I own you an apology, my bad.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 15 h 15 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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Apology accepted. Now am I still disqualified or not?
Soulcollecter57
Soulcollecter57 3 y 9 mo 15 h 7 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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No, you are no longer disqualified and neither is @Wolfdragon123, so your team wins via disqualification.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 y 9 mo 14 h 50 m
Thor Earth 616(SirSpidey) vs Goku DBS(Soulcollecter57)
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I mean, I don't want to be cheap about this. I am totally fine with you and @ManofPower continuing to debate us