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Beyonder

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BadassMoFo
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He unretconned himself and escaped to reality

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Danyel
Danyel 22 d
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@MoNsTeR can you add an Omnilock ? since the Beyond Realm is considered an Omnilock location.
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MoNsTeR
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omnilock is a superpower not location
Danyel
Danyel 22 d
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@MoNsTeR. the beyonder is a user of this power. when beyonder is in the beyond realm, he literally exists beyond everything.
MoNsTeR
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nigh-omnipotence includes almost every superpower including omnilock
Danyel
Danyel 22 d
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hmm i don't think nigh-omnipotence includes almost every power like omnilock, there are beings that have omnilock and near omnipotence at the same time. there are also beings/characters who are nigh-omnipotent beings, but do not exist beyond everything at all.
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FrIoSrHy 1 mo 6 d
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Beyonder is a bit of an anomaly in this form as he is revealed to draw his power from the white hot room which Jean Grey as white phoenix has control over but in other ways he is more powerful
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Jonas
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hmm, probably in the defenders: beyond #3 stated that the true phoenix force was above the true beyonders, but that was hypothetical in #5 it was implied how Loki as a storyteller, also a Beyonder, had all the power of the hoi realm and they scaled higher than the phoenix also these true beyonders, the ivory kings are just the avatars of the beyonder. because beyonder confirmed that he is the only beyonder and not another.
Omega_Beyond868
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Jonas
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what?
Omega_Beyond868
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@Jonas - Look at it again?
Omega_Beyond868
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The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is Omnipotent, Nigh-Omniscient and Omniversal. If he was Omniscient instead of Nigh-Omniscient, then he would be unstoppable. But unfortunately he's Nigh-Omniscient.
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Darks
Darks 2 mo 2 d
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he is not omnipotent
yes
yes 2 mo 2 d
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@Omega_Beyond868 You can’t be omnipotent but only nigh omniscience bc omniscience and omnipresence comes with omnipotence. Now you can be nigh omnipotence and nigh omniscience but not nigh omniscience and full omnipotence
Omega_Beyond868
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@yes - Lucifer Morningstar has Omniscience and Omnipresence and he's Nigh-Omnipotent, so I don't think that's exactly necessary to be Omnipresent and Omnipresent with Nigh-Omniscience.
yes
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@Omega_Beyond868 I never said it was necessary I said omniscience and omnipresence automatically comes with omnipotence and that you can’t claim to be omnipotence but also he nigh omniscience
yes
yes 2 mo 2 d
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Be* not he.
Omega_Beyond868
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I just said that Lucifer has both Omniscience and Omnipresence and he's not even fully Omnipotent.
Tigerking2020
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@MoNsTeR Living Tribunal needs Tier 10 too.
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MoNsTeR
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nope tier 9 is more than enough
Tigerking2020
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Yeah But LT is on par with Beyonder, He's defeated and banished him before.
MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 2 mo 10 d
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How many times did LT lose
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 2 mo 9 d
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He got defeated by the BeyonderS, not Beyonder. Had to take multiple to kill him.
MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 2 mo 9 d
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The beyonder>beyonders
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 2 mo 9 d
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I still think LT deserves Tier 10 anyway even if he is weaker than Beyonder.
Jonas
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in secret wars II the storyline. the beyonder was believed to be an infinite-dimensional being that embodied a realm beyond the multiverse, and the molecule man was then considered the second most powerful being, far more powerful than eternity and the living tribunal. so I don't think that the living tribunal is up to the tier of Beyonder at all.
2099
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Deserved Tier 10. Lucifer should have 4.5T as well, because he isn't omniscient.
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yes
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You have to prove that or they won’t chance it
2099
2099 2 mo 5 d
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I already did. Any scan where Lucifer asks something and this isn't a rhetorical question proves that he isn't Omniscient.
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OtinDaku 1 mo 23 d
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@2099 can you give me those scan and narrative that you can prove it? Because I will use it to debunk my friend that lucifer isn't omniscient. lol
2099
2099 1 mo 23 d
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@OtinDaku I'll show you some scans tonight
2099
2099 1 mo 21 d
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@OtinDaku here is the proof

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Once Lucifer mentioned that he is omniscient and that's why people think that he knows every mystery, but he actually meant nigh-omniscience. Lucifer has never known the will of the presence.
kawhigoat
kawhigoat 1 mo 16 d
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@2099 That’s what I’ve been saying… not even Elaine Belloc is omniscient
2099
2099 1 mo 16 d
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Agreed
yes
yes 1 mo 16 d
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@kawhigoat Yes she is bc she is now omnipotent.
kawhigoat
kawhigoat 1 mo 14 d
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@yes She knows everything but what’s in the heart of other gods
Doomsday
Doomsday 6 mo 16 d
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Pre-retcon Beyonder's histoy is much more wrongly done.

this Pre-retcon beyonder's history:




This Post-retcon/cosmic cube beyonder' s history:

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vcowles77
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Doesn’t mean he gets upgraded to tier 10.
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Ot
OtinDaku 3 mo 14 d
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@vcowles77
He's always a tier 10 if we're talking to Pre-Retcon one.
Omega_Beyond868
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Lucifer Morningstar is Nigh-Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent and Outerversal.
Darks
Darks 6 mo 18 d
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@Galactus please change his picture
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BadassMoFo
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@Darks - Do you think images are the best to change his picture? Tell me what you think is best for it...



Galactus
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@BadassMoFo What is wrong with his current image? Did he change outfits/looks? (Looking at the images, he did, but I would still like to know the reason behind changing images)
Only the second image seems to be able to fit a 'profile'-image (with some cropping).
Darks
Darks 20 d
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@Galactus I only said that because this picture is post retcon beyonder
Darks
Darks 20 d
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But i don't care about this anymore
BadassMoFo
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@Galactus - In the new 'Defenders: Beyond (2022-23) #1-5' The Beyonder unretconned himself and all I'm saying is that the picture of the Beyonder is really outdated and I thought I would be generous enough to give out ideal recommendations on The Beyonder
LadyGaladriel1212
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I honestly think he should be tier 10. @Tigerking2020 what do you think
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Ot
OtinDaku 6 mo 18 d
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He's always has been tier 10 lol
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 18 d
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@LadyGaladriel1212 Not sure but if he gets tier 10 LT should as well.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 6 mo 16 d
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Tribunal is weak compared to beyonder. they need to be on different tiers.
LadyGaladriel1212
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Agreed
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 16 d
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Just because LT is weaker in comparison doesn't always mean he should be on a lower tier. Also Living Tribunal defeated The Beyonder before.
Ot
OtinDaku 6 mo 19 d
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@TigerKing2020
Pre-retcon Beyonder has never been defeated against anyone before when he didn't made himself a mortal.
No force in existence can destroy him.
The only weakness he had is when he apply mortality to himself.
I guess you're pointing the post retcon which is much weaker than Pre-retcon version of him.
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 19 d
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The Living Tribunal had defeated Pre-Retcon Beyonder before by banishing him.
vcowles77
vcowles77 6 mo 19 d
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I have a hard time seeing how both the beyonder and living tribunal can reach tier 10 let alone outerversal scaling.
Ot
OtinDaku 3 mo 14 d
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@Tigerking2020 Nah mate I guess you're talking to that panel when Beyonder fought protege and LT made an appearance in front of them. Beyonder was already retconned that time. Pre-retcon Beyonder was never defeated by The Living Tribunal

In this panel you can see the cosmic entities in the room including Living Tribunal, Eternity, Celestials and etc.


and dave stated "you must still be stronger than everybody else in this room combined"


Conclusion there is no chance Living Tribunal winning against Pre-retcon Beyonder and that's a fact.
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Darks
Darks 6 mo 23 d
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@Monster if this is prb the picture should be changed
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Aleazlllll
Aleazlllll 7 mo 11 d
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lowballer
beyonder solos you verse
masterking2
masterking2 7 mo 11 d
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He’s boring and repetitive just ignore him if we all pretend he doesn’t exist we’ll be going good.
Doomsday
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production- viewpoint: Classic beyonder originally was Created by: Jim Shooter; Mike Zeck as an all-powerful being but the other writers didn't accept that which is why the all-powerful being can silence all the cosmic power of the marvel hierarchy and thus understood as a wrong use with the editor position and ignoring a certain setting.

and so during Fantastic Four #317-319 Writers would retconing beyonder's character and origin as sentient cosmic cube. the Realm/universe of the Beyonders is where the power of the cosmic cubes comes from, and they tend to mature into sentient beings.

Multiversal Nigh-omnipotent forces as beyonder Ivory kings, and reality warpers as post-retcon beyonder/ Cosmic cube incomplete sentient being, kosmos, maker, inhuman mutant/ child unit of beyonders, are beyonder's experimental retcons/versions.
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Jonas
Jonas 4 mo 13 d
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if it's a PRB its stats should be tier 9 omnipotent/ Infinite It was Marvel's first TOAA Marvel 80s. ever. but it was retconned.
Jonas
Jonas 4 mo 13 d
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by the way, Beyonder was not omnipotent in Marvel multiverse at all, because that's how it is perceived hus understood as a wrong use with the editor position and ignoring a certain setting. and as omnipotent being can it silenced the entire cosmic power of the Marvel hierarchy. quite well said.

by jim shooter for his Marvel secret war-story pre-retcon beyonder was introduced in secret wars II 1985 and To explain his existence, and post-retcon beyonder appeared in secret wars I 1984 As a near-omnipotent villain of battleworld marvel.
Ot
OtinDaku 1 mo 23 d
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@Jonas he is totally omnipotent, he just want to limit his powers in order to feel humanity. and the guy you saw in the secret wars was just an avatar of beyonder.
Ot
OtinDaku 7 mo 22 d
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Classic/Pre-retcon beyonder should be scale as ∞ and Omnipotent.
This feat alone shown us that he's even beyond fiction



“The One Who Is All". In the above scan you can see Stan Lee, Jim Shooter, and Al Milgrim bowing in submission that is Pre Retcon Beyonder. Meta/4th wall breaking was the norm for this character as his Omnipotence transcended to nonfiction.
Stan Lee explained that Marvel in it's totality is a water drop πŸ’§ to the ocean 🌊 that is PR B. If Marvel is a drop then we have other drops representing the other franchises. There are countless drops in the ocean. A whole lotta drops and a whole lotta franchise verses make up PRB. That's why he is called God of Fiction, the probability of him encompassing all there is is extremely high. Thus his nickname “The One Who Is All".
unlike the other characters. The beyonder is Created to be "God. and A being who can treat our reality as fiction. which therefore decides to limit its power so that it can fit into it. yet he was still able to disturb the natural order everywhere. be it the contradiction and paradox of the said restriction. also a is Supreme expert on Reality Warping.
And guess what? He's back! he lives outside of cosmology. Even defenders think it was a voice of God in the void of nothing.





He should be omnipotent and ∞
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Di
DictatorDoom 6 mo 20 d
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@rajinkabir he’s right he needs to be ∞
Di
DictatorDoom 6 mo 19 d
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@monster
TOBA
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Classic beyonder is omnipotent, here's a statement from Jim Shooter, the beyonder' writer



https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/marvel-secret-wars-oral-history?amp
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Ot
OtinDaku 7 mo 22 d
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is this his real instagram? Because he had have only 70+ followers in this account.
Jonas
Jonas 4 mo 13 d
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PRB is generally not omnipotent in the Marvel Multiverse, but he does have powers that potentially make him omnipotent within his universe such as:

- Alpha Reality

- Authority Embodiment

- Omnificence

- Indeterminacy

- Cosmic Otherness
Ot
OtinDaku 2 mo 26 d
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@Jonas it was already stated the Pre-retcon beyonder was million times stronger than marvel itself, when he came to marvel universe he had to limit his power in order to feel humanity because he never had those concerns. He was the first TOAA
Xml
Xml 10 mo 25 d
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tier 10
RihoAEW
RihoAEW 10 mo 27 d
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I guess there's no stacking his Powers because he already has-Omnipotence, Nigh-Omniscience, and Omnipresence?
Doesn't he get Wishing, Reality Warping, Size Changing, Subjective Reality, Stamina, etc.?
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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 10 mo 27 d
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Omnipotence includes those abilities, so no point in adding them.
RihoAEW
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Thanks, I see that now.
Omega_Beyond868
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Omnipotence, Nigh-Omniscience and Omnipresence
TOBA
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Pre Retcon Beyonder's realm, more commonly known as the Beyond Realm, was basically all of fiction...
Trigon
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The Beyond realm'Information:

The Beyond Realm was originally a being known as the Beyonder it was an infinite realm beyond the Marvel Multiverse (or Omniverse), and was the sum of everything outside the multiverse and that the Marvel Multiverse (or Omniverse) was a drop in the sea compared to the Beyond-realm. Making it infinitely bigger than the known Marvel Multiverse (Or Omniverse) at this time it is believed Here, that the Beyonder (Originally) is/was the all-powerful God, Creator, Ruler, and Inhabitant. He is everything and everyone in this realm as everything is him. His mere thought became reality anything he dreamed of was his and his alone with him in this Plane of Existence it would be utterly nothing. Post-Retcon Beyond Realm was when the energy escaped to the Beyond Realm making a Infinite Universe here it was like the planet earth and having Beyonder as the absolute ruler until Kubik came in and shown that he isnt in control of this existence between it was revealed this Universe was a simple Gift from the Beyonders and where this retcon ended and a new take its place as the Beyond Realm is like a Giant Observing Room which they did many tests and experiences upon many races.


Pre-Retcon Beyonder's powers and abilities:

Omnipotence: Pre-Retcon Beyonder was basically infinite in power capable of doing anything with a thought, he can have any and all powers he willed himself to have at any given moment, his very thought was basically the fundamentals of reality.

Omniscience: Pre-Retcon Beyonder was shown to know things when he wanted to even when limiting himself he knew of events from past and future situations even still he knew of places, people, and other such things just by being in their presence.

Omnipresence: Pre-Retcon Beyonder was capable of being anywhere at any time at any moment even calling his name will cause him to appear.

Omnilock: Pre-Retcon Beyonder came from a separate "Multiverse" which he was it and it was him this realm was beyond and transcends all known identification of Reality, Space, Time, and the Myriad Dimensions in this plain of existence he is untouchable as only he can open a portal in and outside his realm.

Omniverse Embodiment: Being the anchor and the existence of the Beyond-realm a reality that was said to dwarf the Marvelverse by comparing the Beyond Realm to the Ocean and the Mavrvelverse being nothing but a single droplet.

Totally manipulation: Pre-retcon beyonder it can manipulate everything inside the Мarvel Omniverse and beyond.
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TOBA
TOBA 1 y 1 mo 16 d
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And why not, omnipotent here?
Trigon
Trigon 9 mo 27 d
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IDK.
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
RatnikNaSjeveru2005 1 y 2 mo 24 d
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Bestie got an update nice
Trigon
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he must be omnipotent. because Stan Lee and other Marvel writers confirmed that Beyonder possessed the power that writers have over comics.
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Trigon
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MoNsTeR
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writers also said odin, darkseid, hulk, galactus, omnipotent but they are not
TOBA
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Classic beyonder is actually is omnipotent. it has even been called by the Marvel writers themselves is a god-like omnipotent being or a Being with infinite power. or " beyonder is the personification of the supreme power" in the interviews and in the Marvel Comics Handbooks. and these titles are given to him by the employees themselves! and unlike Odin who said he was all-powerful but was defeated by a galactus, he was just a pathological liar and a fodder.
Omega_Beyond868
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The Beyonder only represents the writer Jim Shooter who created the Beyonder. Making the Beyonder technically ab.ove fiction, making him straight-up Omnipotent
Trigon
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beyonder must be ∞
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TOBA
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@Trigon it no longer has such a character, it was removed by Marvel editor Tom Defalco.
Omega_Beyond868
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I think his Strength, Power, Speed and Durability should be ∞
War_guy19
War_guy19 1 y 4 mo 25 d
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I wanna edit his stats because this is getting out of hand
War_guy19
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This guy is so underrated on this site
MaseTheFace
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Why he smilin like dat πŸ’€
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masterking2
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he never had puberty...
wait he's like a toddler mentally!!!
MaseTheFace
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well this is news
War_guy19
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Should be way higher than this
_God
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Beyonder should have a better Score than 300B, it should be around 600B or 700B. It is the full embodiment of Beyond Realm, a larger separate multiverse than the usual Marvel environment. its only weakness is that it makes it a slightly unstable character, not that it is affected by various forces.
MoNsTeR
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When you realize rkt have better score than beyonder
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Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 y 11 mo 3 d
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LOL
Pedrof
Pedrof 1 y 11 mo 3 d
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πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ RTK is omnipotent.
AkhilPDX
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That makes zero sense.
Pedrof
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Agreed
TonioCartonio
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If one is omnipotent he is also omniscient and omnipresent I would have created his own version as he is in his kingdom where he is omnipotent
Enternity10
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@Galactus, I was wondering if I could edit beyonder
MoNsTeR
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😁😁😁😁😁😁
MrJaeger07
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Is this supposed to be the pre-retcon Beyonder or just base?
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RajinKabir
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Pre-retcon. The post-retcon has another profile
TOBA
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NO...Pre-Retcon Beyonder is no longer a non-existent Marvel character.
BlotskyA
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his intelligence should 145 or 130
not sure for speed, durablity
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Omega_Beyond868
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He's Nigh-Omniscient, so yeah, that seems fair
BlotskyA
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is there a Modern Day Beyonder?
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HolyJoe
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Yeah, it's called "Post-Retcon".
Clint_Barton
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so, Odin will stomp him an in a fight... (don't try to prove me wrong, I am right)
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Tahsin
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Lol.
CosmicKingThor
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Lol 3
Clint_Barton
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Correct me If I am wrong, but he is nigh-omniscient and nigh-omnipresent
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Oblivion
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he's nigh omnipresent but he's not nigh omniscient he admitted that strange is wiser than him in sw2
Clint_Barton
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Isn't nigh omnipotent nigh omniscient too? Or doesn't being nigh omnipresent mean he is nigh omnisciet?
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Oblivion
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no
Dark_Wing
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Omnipotent = all powerful, nothing is more powerful than omnipotence.
Omniscient = all knowing, omniscience knows that their is to know.
Omnipresent = being everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

Learn the difference it could save your life.
Clint_Barton
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Nigh omnipresent means he is probably everywhere, and sees everything happening, being spoken or have been, so he is aware of most of (99,99%) things in multiverse.
Clint_Barton
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@Dark_Wing I know. Read my explanation
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And?
Oblivion
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there are things which can beat omnipoteence
Dark_Wing
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Like what?
Clint_Barton
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@Dark And it means he is nigh-omniscient
@Oblivion Then it isn't real omnipotence
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writer embodiement
Dark_Wing
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That's not a fair argument then because their is no true omnipotence in fiction.
Clint_Barton
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So, you guys accept he is nigh omniscient?
Oblivion
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writer is omniponent no one except writer can be true omniponent bc no one can beat writer and even if they do its pis (like mxy)
Oblivion
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he admitted that dr strange is wiser than him wf are you talking about?
Dark_Wing
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That is the sole reason that there is no omnipotence in fiction.
Clint_Barton
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WriterS are omnipotent. But not just one of them. There can be more writets
Dark_Wing
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Agreed
ManofPower
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Beyonder is only Nigh Omnipotent. He is not high omniscient or present
Dark_Wing
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We know
CosmicKingThor
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He isn't nigh omniscient bcz he have to learn things
Omega_Beyond868
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@Clint_Barton - He's fully Omnipotent and Omnipresent, except he's only Nigh-Omniscient.
Oblivion
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55? Kidding? Yes he is not omniponent but, 55 is really low for beyonder.
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Dark_Wing
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That's why I wanted them to keep omnipotence.
TonioCartonio
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Ala nera Was it omnipotent on this site?
Galactus
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Remove Omnipotence and add Nigh-Omnipotence, yes or no?
Vote please, up = yes, down = no. I'll check the results tonight.
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EmptyHand
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Yes
Oblivion
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Yes
Jongensoden
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Yes
Dark_Wing
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NOOO
Tyrannus
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Why not have both? The Presence is Omnipotent while Spectre is Nigh-Omnipotent
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@Tyrannus I meant to remove it for Beyonder, not from the database πŸ˜‰
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@Galactus please remember omnipotence, because there is no omnipotence in fiction.
TonioCartonio
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i would have put the versions as much as he is in his kingdom
Omega_Beyond868
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This is the Pre-Retcon Beyonder dude, he's fully Omnipotent. But technically the Admin did change his status to Nigh-Omnipotent by adding The Post-Retconned Beyonder. Here's the link if it makes you happy.

https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-post-retcon/10-14042/
Omega_Beyond868
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The Beyonder only represents the writer Jim Shooter who created the Beyonder. Making the Beyonder technically above fiction, so I'd say Omnipotent
Jongensoden
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@Galactus remove omnipotence and add nigh omnipotence
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EmptyHand
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Yes Jon is correct
Dark_Wing
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No, keep omnipotence.
EmptyHand
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@Darkwing No
Omega_Beyond868
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@Clint_Barton - They did, look up 'The Beyonder (Post-Retconed)' he's Nigh-Omnipotent.
https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-post-retcon/10-14042/
Breaker
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@Galactus
Bro Please Ustas Should Be 160
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DeanDinosaur6
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It is based on powers and stats. You do not choose the power level yourself. Some examples are Black Adam and Reign (CW).
EmptyHand
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He should have nigh Omnipotent not Omnipotent
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Jongensoden
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Yes @Galactus
Omega_Beyond868
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He's fully Omnipotent and Omnipresent. He's not fully Omniscient though. The Beyonder has Nigh-Omniscience