Agent 13vsLeatherface

Leatherface 10 families of highly trained assassins vs agents who only have martial skills such as athletes, how did Sharon win?

Agent 13 10 families? what are you talking about? It says he can ask the Sawyers which I would assume means the daily from the original movie. They are not highly trained what are you talking about? lol They are just people who lure people to their house and surprise them. Not once in that movie was someone over powered by Leatherface. The only person that could mainly help in the family is Nubbins, and he's not a fighter or powerful in anyway at all.

Agent 13 I think he meant 2003 movies

Agent 13 Can beat Super Soldier?

Leatherface Super soldier in what regard?

Agent 13 Because Sharon is Super Soldier like Black Widow

Leatherface As far as skills yes but not like Cap.

Agent 13 Well, she has the ability like Winter Soldier and how did Sawyer kill her?

Leatherface If she does, you should specify. She doesn't all the time.

Agent 13 I still don't understand how Sawyer won

Leatherface As I said. Perhaps she could, this is just my assessment. Nothing against those that think she could and if she did have the serum then most definitely she would win.

Agent 13 Debate?

Leatherface Yes, I would love to. If she doesnt have a gun and 10 dudes are cornering her, what is she doing? She takes down maybe 2 then gets jumped on.

Agent 13 Not all of the family members are male, three of them are women as well as there may be more than 10 members. Sharon is a trained soldier, she has a lot of experience to beat Sawyer because she often comes face to face with elite assassins who are far more dangerous than Sawyer. And would a girl who just wanted to take a vacation be happy if her vacation was interrupted?

Agent 13 Have people not read comics with Agent 13 in them? Of course she can take down 10 people, she does that all the time

Agent 13 Leatherface won't win because he annoys the girl who wants to take a vacation, Sawyer can't beat Sharon even though it is a tough fight but Sharon has high damage defense also she is a peak human like Black Widow.

Leatherface Being annoyed isn't going to make that much of a difference. She can't resist getting cut up

Agent 13 have you ever met an annoyed woman

Leatherface Unless this is a movie, it shouldn't really be relevant here

Agent 13 Sharon is a highly trained soldier, she has come face to face with elite assassins and has received many battle wounds. Even though her hand was cut off, Sharon was still able to fight with one hand because she had a lot of experience with such things.

Agent 13 Sorry I wrote wrong this should happen for one day like the film.

Agent 13 @Galactus You think Leatherface could win? Why?

Leatherface I fixed it, it's one day now.

Agent 13 @Galactus Thank you
@Savage perhaps because of a favorable scenario for Leatherface ...

Agent 13 @R165 Well I was curious about Galactus's opinion

Leatherface But this is 10 vs 1

Leatherface Even though his skills are much more skilled but how can he beat 10 family members who are experienced at killing?

Leatherface Sawyer is a family that contains all sadistic and intelligent killers, this is 10 vs 1 and in terms of conditions Sawyer must win, especially Sharon is still below Catwoman and Harley Quinn in martial arts skills.

Agent 13 Sharon still win

Leatherface @Alien_X What makes you Sharon to be 10 members of the family with experience of killing?

Agent 13 Agreed

Leatherface @R165 She has no resources in this battle, though. That was a condition. Plus, a chainsaw is a sword to him(he holds that as if a sword). Think of how easily a person wields a sword. And, she'd be fodder for the family before she even figured out what was going on. That's what they do. They manipulate like top serial killers(secretly and convincingly) and pass the buck until there is no way that you can win. A person wielding a chainsaw is no small matter. It's far easier to face a champion swordsman than to face a being that wields a chainsaw like a sword! The tiniest prick would be devastating. I'm from the American Southeast, so I know a little something about chainsaws. Also, he's a brick that is no dummy. Without resources, how is she supposed to get by a chainsaw sword?

Leatherface @aajayunlimited Agreed

Agent 13 Agreed

Agent 13 On second thought changing my vote to Sharon @R165 @Savage you guys convinced me.

Leatherface @Superguy251 what made you change your mind? Sawyer is still going to win, it's 10 assassins vs 1 trained agent.

Leatherface Hell no

Agent 13 Say that to @Aajayunlimited and @Superguy251

Leatherface Hewitt was not dumb, just crazed like the Joker. No straight, unintelligent brute would ever torture someone; they'd only kill or brute them out of their way. But, he actually hung a victim on a hook where he could not escape and in salt to torture him. Maybe until death. From the 2003 movie, I think he had a scientific mind in an evil kind of way. Having a scientific mind is in no way calling him a scientist, but he appears inquisitive and exploratory about the world around him that interests him. That's no dummy, as a dummy would not care about anything but satisfying his basest desires. They may have been actually trying to portray him as smart enough to be a scientist, but I can't go that far from what I saw. But, he did have a scientific disposition and that's no dummy by a long shot...

Agent 13 @aajayunlimited Doesn't even matter, Agent 13 is a wayyyyyyyy better fighter, and smarter as well. Stronger too. Literally, this is a stomp

Agent 13 @aajayunlimited Sharon has stab wound resistance, she is actually the Black Widow lite who will beat Sawyer in a bloody battle.

Agent 13 Agreed. also she have way better feats against more dangerous guys, in marvel.

Agent 13 @AaronZeki Very true

Leatherface @AaronZeki That's not true at all, she is still below Catwoman and Harley Quinn in martial arts skills.

I agree with @aajayunlimited because it is 10 serial killers against a girl who only has the skills of a top athlete.

Agent 13 @Lazada Lmao, clearly you don't know Agent 13. Please just don't vote if you don't know the characters.

Leatherface @Savage I know both of them, even though Sharon is very skilled but Jason and his family have a lot of advantage because this is 10 vs 1, also Sharon doesn't have a weapon to make matters worse.

Agent 13 @Lazada Sharon has take down much larger groups of actually skilled fighters that have guns, leatherface and his family don't stand a chance

Leatherface as @aajayunlimited said i couldn't see Sharon winning.

Leatherface @Savage You don't think a mob family figures out a way to take out Bruce Lee if they wanted to? Because I do. This whole family has an evil intelligence and they do not fight fair. They don't care about how trained you are or the art of fighting*. They are civil or even nice in dealing with potential victims; point is, how do you fight something if you don't know you have an enemy to fight? In all of this, she's not as good as Lee was...

*You wouldn't even see Hewitt until it was too late. He had a lair and you were at the wrong place at the wrong time to even face him. Then, he patiently waited for the signal--given by his dad(a noise)--then he runs out like a track star wielding a chainsaw like a sword all of a sudden; do you understand the gravity of that statement or the athleticism of that statement? Does she defeat Bane, if he had a chainsaw? Batman lost without that. She'd have to defeat a man-killing grizzly bear to even have a shot. DO YOU SAY SHE DOES THAT?! I DON'T. AND, EVEN THEN, A CHAINSAW IS MUCH BETTER THAN A GRIZZLY'S CLAWS AND HE'S MORE INTELLIGENT THAN A GRIZZLY!

Agent 13 You keep comparing her to other people that aren't her. The bottom line is that she can easily take out 10 people, and none of them are great fighters or superhuman.

Agent 13 Agent 13 is far stronger than Leatherface, and 100 times the fighter

Leatherface Sawyer should win

Leatherface @BatmanWithPreparation Problem is--it's never a straight fight with them. They are always passing the buck--until somebody is in prime position to kill or torture(then kill). Usually, that would be the armed sheriff or Leatherface. What happened in the 2003 movie(and there were previous versions as well) was the Hewitts and their kin were the "royal family" of an withered, unkept, almost ghost town. There was an elderly mom and dad that had two adult sons: one a sheriff and the other the deformed brute with a chainsaw(Thomas Hewitt). There were also at least a few more family members that were loyal to this core group. They were like a secret society: everyone kept the secrets and everyone played their part in the end goal of torture and death. It was a very, very odd place, but nowhere was criminal at face value. So, it's uber creepy, but--about all that you can pinpoint about this place is--you want to get out of there as quickly as possible. Now, in doing so, you may run into that sheriff or the mom at the local meat market. Once connected to the sheriff, you likely are pointed to the home of the Hewitts, where Leatherface's underground lair is, through the sheriff. Hewitt's dad gives Thomas the signal and he comes out like enraged lion. And, if you beat Thomas, you'll have to deal with the sheriff. Who is bonkers angry and armed.

Agent 13 @aajayunlimited You forgot that Sharon is much better trained than all of them, Leatherface is just an idiot while Sharon can beat Sawyer in various ways.

Leatherface @R165 Hewitt was no dummy. Dude was smart enough to torture someone. Dummies are only after their basest desires. He is crazed, mentally deformed, but not a dummy. Mentally deformed people can be savants, autistic, suffer from asphersers, or something else entirely. Hewitt was well rounded in a evil way...

Agent 13 @aajayunlimited It doesn't matter if Leatherface is smart but he won't be able to beat Sharon because Leatherface is too slow to take the punches on her.

Leatherface 10 vs 1 its not fair

Agent 13 peak woman dude she sure ain't regular

Leatherface @masterking2 Where is proof that she's peak human?

Agent 13 probably ain’t peak but she’s very tough)

Agent 13 basic field shield operative requirement

Leatherface @masterking2 I have read a few SHIELD comics in the past and never got the impression they were peak human. So, what have they done that is peak human?

Agent 13 Sharon is so well trained, she has beaten some Hydra members so easily how did the Sawyers win?

Leatherface @Masterking2 this is completely unbalanced, even though Sharon is a peak human but Leatherface and his family are also a peak human.

10 vs 1 = Sawyer wins.

Agent 13 in top condition Sharon will kill them

Leatherface @Flygirl Leatherface is a peak human that literally and amazingly runs like a track athlete with a chainsaw. His stamina may be inexhaustible; it's very high. He is also very durable, but you can hurt him or kill him at least with metal. And, the only other meaningful person in this battle is a sheriff that would be armed.

Leatherface @Flygirl Also, the Hewitt version isn't dumb--just both mentally deformed and insane. He experiments on dead bodies and creates masks for himself off of freshly killed victims. How does he have get new bodies? ANS. When people tour the almost one family town and stop or get stuck there.

Agent 13 @aajayunlimited Sharon is much smarter than Leatherface, she has the martial arts skills and experience to beat Sawyer.

Agent 13 Sharon should win

Leatherface No, Leatherface should win.

Agent 13 Leatherface is not very familiar with the Sawyers, unable to see how Leatherface and the Sawyers have defeated the highly skilled soldier.

Agent 13 How is he not?

Agent 13 because Sharon is well trained to beat them

Agent 13 I've been convinced.

Agent 13 What made you think Leatherface won before?

Agent 13 I voted neutral

Agent 13 but your comments are too supportive of Leatherface

Agent 13 Because it was like 4-5 v 1 he had like a ~54% chance of winning.

Agent 13 to be more precise it is 10v1

Leatherface Sawyer should win

Agent 13 how well do you know Sawyer?

Leatherface Yeah, Sawyer should win.

Leatherface Yes, but if the family is helping she won't win.

Agent 13 @Galactus What will the Sawyers do? they're just fodder for Street Levelers in DC and Marvel.

Leatherface Set traps, distract, slow her down. Enough for Leatherface to saw her in half.

Agent 13 @Galactus That's a good opinion but would a smart Soldier like Sharon be easy to trap?

Agent 13 What changed my mind was Sharon Carter she is a very good fighter and I'm pretty sure in the comics she has taken on multiple people that are better fighter than the Sawyers and with weapons.

Agent 13 You need to stop @ ing that many people at once. Superiors might not like it and your comment May get reported.

Agent 13 @RajinKabir okay, but What you neutral?

Agent 13 Well, I don't know about either. But I think characters like leatherface have certain luck. But Sharon is also very well trained person. Obviously she has several weird and difficult experiences. So even if I had to vote one person I'd vote Sharon.

Neutral I am also neutral 😑

Agent 13 Sharon would win. Even an ordinary girl Sally was able to kick the Sawyers' arses. I just decided not to break the balance here.

Agent 13 @RajinKabir Yes, you can vote Sharon.

@Pedrof what makes neutral?

Leatherface @BatmanWithPreparation @RajinKabir @Tahsin
Sally did that while they were off guard and I couldn't see how Sharon was winning, she had the martial arts skills below Catwoman and Harley Quinn.

Leatherface Leatherface is about as close to peak human as it gets--if he in fact isn't. While a hero from a group always beats the family in the end, that's to sell movies. However, when you think logically of anyone not having resources and having to deal with Thomas Hewitt and that crazy armed sheriff alone, I think the 2 villains win most of those scenarios(since neither knows about the other at first). She may in fact think the sheriff is good people. That's a trap they enjoy and it could kill the best of trained ops. They would need luck or plot to say that it wouldn't actually work on Sharon.

Agent 13 @aajayunlimited I agree that they use that trope to sell movies but in a real-life scenario 80% would die and 20% would live. If it was a movie version battle then I'd most likely be voting for Sharon Carter.

Agent 13 @Aajayunlimited @Superguy251 If it's an ordinary person, yes they win. But this is a highly trained Agent Shield.

@RajinKabir @Tahsin They don't know Sharon.

Leatherface The family would certainly look off or remedial to Sharon, but not enough to suspect them of anything. Until she fell into a trap or get to the wrong place at the wrong time. They don't fight fair; they sucker in and come in without warning. The family operates like a witch that casts spells in secret. They are nice or too civil to be suspected, but--like a witch's spells on unsuspecting people--the family's "arms" come to attack suddenly from out of nowhere. Leatherface isn't slow; he's a track athlete type.

Leatherface @aajayunlimited Agreed