Lucifer MorningstarvsThanos (Heart Of The Universe)

Created by TheDarkLord

24 wins (52.2%)
Lucifer Morningstar (Samael) 89
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22 wins (47.8%)
Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) (Thanos) 56
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soratoumiga
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer is MASSIVELY above Living Tribunal, especially the most recent one. No feat nor hype suggest HOTU can beat Lucifer.
DeanDinosaur6
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) HOTU Thanos defeated the Living Tribunal. He can defeat Lucifer.
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Dark_Wing
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) How dose defeating Living Tribunal prove that he can defeat Lucifer?
DeanDinosaur6
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) The Living Tribunal and Lucifer are very close in power, but Living Tribunal is barely more powerful. If he can defeat LT, he can defeat Lucifer.
Dark_Wing
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) How are they The same power level? Did the Living Tribunal help create the multiverse or create his own creation?
DeanDinosaur6
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) How does Lucifer win?
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Dark_Wing
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Well that's very simple, he doesn't
EmptyHand
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer stomps
LuciferMorningstar
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Disrespectful match, Lucifer without wings is enough.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Agreed
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer claps this universal threat.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Agreed
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar He is not only universal.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Yes, he is, the current retconed, non-canon version is only universal. Now, you can argue that it could go higher due to VSBW or other sites' scaling, but it only affected one alternate reality, not the entire Marvel Multiverse. I already explained why on Discord.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar @Lordtracer lucifer still wins if hes not universal or if he is
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar If it was only universal, it would be on the Skyfather level. So no. And considering that THOTU is not only made by TOAA and it absorbed The Living Tribunal, it is far more than universal.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar So is LM
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar You didn't understand what I was saying. It's far above Skyfather, but not on the level people think it is. It only affected one universe/reality, I think 1410 universe, and it absorbed the universal Living Tribunal, not multiversal. It scales slightly above Infinity Gauntlet due to few statements, which puts it at multiversal+ scale within that specific universe.
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar The Infinity Gauntlet is infinite dimensional, I've been over this. Infinity Gauntlet > Ultimate Nullifier > Multi-Eternity. It also scales above several infinite dimensional feats, such as WF Galactus' destruction of the Negative Zone and Crossroads of Infinity, the Ultimate Nullifier also was capable of destroying the Negative Zone, The In-Betweener being able to affect all levels of reality, Classic Doctor Strange also affecting all levels of reality, WF Galactus, Scrier and Other's fight would have destroyed all of creation and Oblivion thought it would be greater than the Chaos War in scale and The Celestials, who Roma (an infinite-dimensional being) referred to as all-powerful.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Not by feats, no. And Multi-Eternity > Infinity Gauntlet, by feats. And I misspoke, I didn't mean the Gauntlet, but Eternity. It's above Eternity (even though it's a featless Eternity from an alternate reality, but let's take it as a 616 Eternity). And more than half of those things are just statements.
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar I just gave several feats and scaling that put the Infinity Gauntlet on the infinite-dimensional level. And "Universal" Eternity scales to those infinite-dimensional feats as well, minus the Ultimate Nullifier ones. And the fact that they're "just statements" is irrelevant, considering that you frequently use statements in your arguments.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar No, I rarely do. And "universal" Eternity is multiversal+ (2-A), it can't be higher. And that's 616 Eternity. Eternity Thanos absorbed was an M-Body from a different reality, we can only assume it is 2-A.
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar No, you frequently do. In fact, one of your main arguments for Scarlet Witch are based is a statement of her affecting the "omniverse," which has already been disproven. And no, Eternity does not HAVE to be multiversal+, there is absolutely nothing limiting him to that. So again, he scales to those infinite-d feats. And there's no reason to assume he's not on the same level as 616 Eternity, that just seems like a flimsy argument to discount THOTU's power.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar False. It's not a statement, there are a couple of scans proving she performed such feats. No one has debunked it yet, I have no idea what you're talking about. Exactly, he could be lower than multiversal+, we don't know because that abstract was featless, as well as LT and Infinity Thanos had absorbed.
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar There are no scans showing that she destroyed an omniverse. Because she can't. It's literally impossible. And again, there's no reason to assume he's not on the level of normal Eternity. There's nothing that implied he was weaker.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar That's funny, because I'm assuming you define an "omniverse" as literally everything, including real life due to that handbook, but you don't acknowledge that Oblivion is Eternity's, Death's and Infinity's equal despite it being written in a handbook as well. Pick one, and an omniverse doesn't have to be defined as such either way. Okay, let's say he is equal to 616 Eternity (despite it still being unproven, but okay), how does that put him above Lucifer? And before the retcon Thanos W/ HOTU DID indeed absorb the multiversal Living Tribunal, and even then I think Lucifer slightly has the edge.
LordTracer
LordTracer 3 mo 19 d
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Lucifer Morningstar Oblivion used to be equal to those three, I acknowledge that. Except the problem is that it was very clearly retconned, considering that Mikaboshi, a part of Oblivion, was equal to Mutli-Eternity. And it's not that there's no reason to assume he's equal to normal Eternity, there's no reason to NOT assume he's equal to normal Eternity. And Lucifer wins, I just forgot to change my vote.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Oblivon>Eternity imo
Dark_Wing
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Base Thanos is at least universal
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Thanos with the HOTU is the closest thing to TOAA, even surpassing the Beyonder. Only the Fulcrum is stronger and that's because he's an aspect of TOAA. Thanos absorbs and kills Lucifer just like Living Tribunal.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 19 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Wtf nooo, Lucifer >= Michael > HOTU
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 4 mo 6 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer godstomps
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 7 mo 23 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar HOTU Thanos beat Living Tribunal, and Lucifer can do the same, only Lucifer has better feats.
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10earthquakes
10earthquakes 7 mo 23 d
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) There's no way that he has better feats.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 7 mo 23 d
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Lucifer Morningstar He has absolutely better feats. And more of them. Thanos has like 2.
Mo
Mohamed4737 7 mo 23 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer win
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10earthquakes
10earthquakes 7 mo 23 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) No, Thanos win.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 10 mo 9 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Thanos HOTU > Living Tribunal > Lucifer
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windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 9 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Thanos HOTU > Lucifer > Living Tribunal
LuciferMorningstar
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer Morningstar>>> PRB >>> both
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 26 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar Lucifer - outerversal
Thanos with HOTU - high hyperversal
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I think Lucifer wins
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TheSuspect666
TheSuspect666 10 mo 9 d
Lucifer Morningstar vs Thanos (Heart Of The Universe)
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Lucifer Morningstar Kind of. Maybe steltmate?
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 9 d
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Nah. Thanos wins. He's near equal to TOAA. Lucifer is not even close.
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 11 mo 26 d
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Thanos (Heart Of The Universe) Thanos absorbs Lucifer into him just like he did with the LT, eternity, and infinity.

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