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Can Superman break captain America shield??

Does Superman has enough strength?

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MakeMineMarvel
Can Superman break captain America shield??
6 year member
If Superman cannot break Cap's shield, then something is very wrong.
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Tyrannus
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Wrong
Mxyzptlk
Can Superman break captain America shield??
You all guys think captain America shield cant be break by physical attack?
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jongensoden
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
It can many charachters did
Tyrannus
Can Superman break captain America shield??
It can't. Magic really the only way
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Before we continue we need to establish the force it would take to destroy the shield. Like a nuke or something. But a super-nova is where we can all agree it would shatter
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Literally no one agrees
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
I'm just saying we should establish the force that would destroy it.
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
We need some sort of frame of reference
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
We have, magic and omnipotent users
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
And literally no one is just you
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
More people here agree with me so it's not just me
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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But since it has been broken through non omnipotent and non magical beings what would break it
Dark_Wing
Can Superman break captain America shield??
1 year member
@Tyrannus matter manipulation can destroy the shield meaning someone like Captain Atom or Silver Surfer could break it.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
@Wic23 No it won't. We've seen beings like Hulk and Thor try and fail. If they can't Superman definitely won't be able to
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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@Dark_Wing Good point but this is Superman
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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Ok you have said your self molecule man destroys it. He broke it down on the molecular level right @tyrannus?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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Right
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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ok then because I just did some research and I had forgotten about superman's infinite mass punch which breaks down anything he hits at a molecular level
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Still won't break it. If he's apply kinetic energy onto the shield it break. Molecule man pulls apart atoms without such energy or force.
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
It can break using kinetic energy.
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Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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http://geekandsundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/the-serpent.jpg
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 10 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
That's not how vibranium works. Add that to the fact that it's alloyed with adamantium and uru and you got yourself an unbreakable shield
Wic23
Wic23 9 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Did you see the link
Tyrannus
Can Superman break captain America shield??
I did. Serpant can damage the shield the same way Thor could. Superman cannot
Dark_Wing
Can Superman break captain America shield??
1 year member
Uh, @Tyr that was not Cul, that was a different serpent, let me fix the link for you http://geekandsundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/the-serpent.jpg
AkhilPDX
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
I don't think a supernova can destroy Captain America's shield.
Wic23
Wic23 9 d
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Thank you @darkwing
Wic23
Wic23 9 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Since it can be broken by sheer strength and superman can produce infinite strength with his infinite mass punch that means yes he can break it
Bane333
Can Superman break captain America shield??
@Wic agreed
Tyrannus
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Serpant's powers are still derived from magic. Sheer strength alone isn't enough
Wic23
Wic23 7 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
That is not the magic serpent
_Holy_Joe_
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
Uh, is the image you showed us not the Magic Serpent?
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Wic23
Wic23 6 d
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No that's Cul
Tyrannus
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Cul is Serpant
Dark_Wing
Can Superman break captain America shield??
1 year member
@Tyrannus: did you click the link?
Jakcj
Jakcj 13 d
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1 year member
I bet Superman could take Captain America's shield and put it in the sun where it would melt.
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Wic23
Wic23 13 d
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Then superman didn't break it the sun did
Jakcj
Jakcj 13 d
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1 year member
Still counts if Superman tosses it in the sun
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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No the question is whether superman can break it or not, not whether the sun can or not
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
I think he can break it but that's not how
ManofPower
Can Superman break captain America shield??
1 year member
Superman is in the same weight class as Hulk and Thor, who have failed to destroy the shield. Even with their full base potential
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Wic23
Wic23 13 d
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Ok the question is whether superman could break it not whether he is stronger or weaker than hulk and thor. If you want to argue that than I made a forum for it
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 13 d
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He didn't say they're stronger he said if they couldn't break the shield neither will Superman. Proof
Wic23
Wic23 13 d
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But he can still use any number of his powers and destroy it
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Like what? We've already debunked heat vision, freeze breath and brute strength
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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Ok the we you keep talking about is just you. And pre-remake superman could make up powers on the fly
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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And you didn't debunk anything. When it comes to heat vision you provided some evidence so I'll stay away from that one. But when it comes to strength you used physics to say that his shield absorbs energy but then you refused to except the actual physics that exist. Then with freeze breath along with a lot of other things you just said it wouldn't work without any sort of evidence
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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And then when you use fake evidence which I debunk. And you say that any evidence I use is fake without even checking
jongensoden
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
Hulk or Thor can Break the shield
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 12 d
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2 year member
They both have failed.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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I think you meant pre-crisis Superman and that's long been retconned. What physics have I denied? The Infinity stones?
Clint_Barton
Can Superman break captain America shield??
How much of heat tho? The uru metal is magical. You can't evaporate or melt it.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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@Clint_Barton Exactly
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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The physics of how energy absorption works. I clearly must have missed the physics class where they said hey guys these laws we've been talking about, the ones that if we were without no universe could fundamentally exist. They don't apply if some dude on a forum says they don't anymore
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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Lol I haven't broken science mate. It's because of physics that only magic and omnipotence and break it because they can defy science
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
No I just said that anyone with enough strength could destroy it. But no one but superman has that much strength
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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Also the fact that it can only be broken by magic and omnipotent beings is not true because non magical and non omnipotent beings have broken it.
jongensoden
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
Ultron Broke the shield hulk thor superman are stronger then Ultron also im sure the godblast would destroy the shield and hulk Will become angry enough to destroy it
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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thank you
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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The is plenty of people stronger than Superman. Hulk and Thor tried and failed
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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Ultron broke it because it wasn't canon. We don't know what the shield's made off.
Clint_Barton
Can Superman break captain America shield??
The. Shield. Ultron. Broke. Wasn't. His. Current. Shield.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 10 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Yes
ManofPower
Can Superman break captain America shield??
1 year member
Not. Even. Close
Wic23
Wic23 13 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
I would like to say that it has been amazing to argue this point. This is truly what makes a fandom and it's clear everyone on this forum has done their research. I don't care if I'm wrong or right it's just been amazing to argue alongside true believers
jongensoden
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
Yes he would destroy it
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 15 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
It's been debunked that he can't already
Wic23
Wic23 15 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
No you didn't I debunked that
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 15 d
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You still haven't replied to my original answered that debunked this question. You've just made empty claims since
Wic23
Wic23 14 d
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I decide to ignore it because everyone who has been through basic physics that any object that absorbs energy, if given too much, will break
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 14 d
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This is comics. Basic physics isn't always obeyed. If you refuse to look at the facts then that dismantles your whole point
Wic23
Wic23 14 d
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You just decided not to look at the facts
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 14 d
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I presented the facts when I made the original comment. You admitted you ignored it proving your wrong. Sorry
Wic23
Wic23 13 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
No I said the thing that makes captain America's shield breakable is impossible to be without in any universe
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 13 d
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You claimed just because the infinity stones can break the shield any strong person can which is way off
Wic23
Wic23 13 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
No I am saying that although yes in some universes you can change some parts but there are certain building blocks of the universe that if you removed them then the universe in question would crumble
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Which is why only magic and omnipotent beings can destroy the shield. The shield was made to be unbreakable so in order to break it you need to defy reality
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
It was not made unbreakable it was made to be strong it has been broken at least 15 different times and 4 of them not being omnipotent or magic
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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And the power stone does not define reality it works within the laws of the universe
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
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Vibranium is the perfect metal alloy in that in just absorbs kinetic energy. Adding adamantium makes it all the more better. I've already spoken about the non magic users. The Infinity stones make you omnipotent so that would allow the shield to break
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
No you haven't spoken about non magical beings you just said they weren't canon and that they didn't actually do it
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 10 d
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I've mentioned before how the Infinity stones and omnipotent being can. That's not magic.
Wic23
Wic23 27 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
And Superman can melt it. The question is whether he can break it not that he has to punch it or something. He could also freeze it then shatter it. Our he can fly faster than light with it and let it fade away from the speed
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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I can see Cap deflecting the heat vision rather than melt
Wic23
Wic23 15 d
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But you cant deflect freezing
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 15 d
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Even freezing it won't work. Something that strong won't simply break, even when frozen and shattered, the shield will remain
Wic23
Wic23 27 d
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The shield can be broken by sheer strength. Don't you remember when serpent ripped it appart
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 22 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Only magic users or infinity stones can break the shield
Wic23
Wic23 18 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
I just proved that wasn't true and nowhere in the comics or the movies does it say that
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Wic23
Wic23 18 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
And as I said above he can melt it or freeze it or do whatever he wants to with it
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Freezing or melting isn't breaking and even then The shield should resist extreme temperatures better than you'd think. Who's Serpent? When did that happen. Cap's shield has never been broken by anything other than magic or an infinity stone
Wic23
Wic23 15 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Number one the power stone is a cosmic power which means it works within the bounds of the universe so does molecule man so that means that the universe has conventional methods of destroying it. Number 2 of course melting or freezing count as breaking. I'm sure everyone else on this forum will agree
Number 3 I didn't want to originally bring this up because I thought everything I had said was enough but if you read some of the older comics, like bronze age, you will see that superman has every single power there is. And number 4 just look up marvel serpent and one of the first pictures is him breaking the shield with his bear hands
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 15 d
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The Infinity Stones make the user nigh-omnipotent so of course that would break the shield but just because it obeys the rules of science any strong person can break it. Hulk, Thor, Thanos and many others have tried and failed. Superman would hurt his hand if he tried
Wic23
Wic23 14 d
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Look at number 3 and you keep saying how the shield can't be broken with sheer strength but the power stone is sheer strength. Superman once punched his way out of the phantom zone. Let me remind you in the phantom zone you have no physical form.
Wic23
Wic23 14 d
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Also you neglected to acknowledge 2 3 and 4
Wic23
Wic23 14 d
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Also you only mention molecule man thanks and thor when it comes to breaking the shield but the sentinels have also broken it with their bear hands. So did hyperion and Gregory stark and ultron and namora
Galactus
Galactus 14 d
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14 year member
Dr Doom broke it, as far as I can recall.
jongensoden
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
Then superman sure can
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 14 d
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2 year member
Superman is not Doctor Doom.
jongensoden
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
Superman is more powerfull and stronger then doom
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 14 d
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Dr Doom is the master of science and magic. He'd have figured a way to break something that can't be broken by sheer force.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 14 d
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@Wic23 The power stone once made up a god that died and created the stones. Superman is not a god nor omnipotent. Also I have no idea what your on about 2,3 and 4.
EmptyHand
Can Superman break captain America shield??
he's physically stronger than doom
Wic23
Wic23 13 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
As I have said in another comment a sentinel also broke. And so did ultron
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 13 d
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No they didn't
Wic23
Wic23 13 d
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Yes they did go to screen rant and search 15 characters that broke captain America's shield
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
The sentinel's attack wasn't canon and it's not confirmed that Ultron broke the shield
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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Ok what you can't just say oh that's not canon and it works. It is perfectly canon it even provides the actual comic strip where it happens. Same with ultron
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
It was on another earth. We don't know what the shield was made off. In some instances the shield is just made of steel
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 10 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
616's vibranium, adamantium and uru alloyed shield
Bane333
Bane333 29 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Ya he can break it with sheer strength.
He's a lot stronger than Hulk, and Thor.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 28 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Not only has this been debunked that Superman can ever hope to destroy the shield, he's weaker than Hulk and Thor
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 mo 6 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
2 year member
Nope. The shield hasn't really been broken through physical means, only by magic or cosmic powers such as the Infinity Stones, Molecule Man, or Asgardian magic. Superman has access to none of these, and no matter how hard he hits, the vibranium will absorb the impact and it'll spread the kinetic energy outwards along the shield, so if anything, I believe it'll make it stronger. The vibranium is also mixed with proto adamantium which is THE strongest type of adamantium in the Marvel universe. Thanos has proved to be completely defenseless against it without the aid of something like the Reality or Power Stones. The shield has also taken full on attacks from Thor, Hulk, and Juggernaut and it doesn't even have a SCRATCH. Superman can put as much speed and power behind his punches as he wants, but the likeliness of him breaking the shield is basically zero.
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Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 1 mo 6 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Yaa may be he can't break
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 6 d
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@Akhil I think you forgot to mention it is also enjanced by uru metal.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 mo 5 d
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@Clint_Barton OMG, I forgot that. Shoot. Well, that is a really good point though.
Wic23
Wic23 18 d
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Yes the shield can absorb the impact but as we learn in basic physics that an object that absorbs energy takes some of the energy in. And since we know that his shield can be broken that means 20 quintillion tons of force could snap crackle pop that thing
Wic23
Wic23 18 d
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Also the infinity stone being cosmic doesn't mean that regular things can brake it. The power stone is all the energy in the universe but it does not brake the laws of the universe. This means it can be broken through conventional methods
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 15 d
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@Wic23 While objects do absorb some energy, vibranium is unique in that it absorbs close to 0% of that energy and instead converts it into something that can be repelled back. No one said the power stone defies the laws of physics which is why we said only magic and the Infinity Gauntlet can break the shield. Superman has neither
Wic23
Wic23 14 d
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I agree that the marvel universe works on different laws. How else would superman fly or hulk smash. But the laws that go into something like this are so fundamental if you left them out then the universe would crumble
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 14 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Yes and the shield was made to be unbreakable. Only magic and omnipotent beings can break something that shouldn't break
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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It was not made to made to be that way you just say it was. They just made it to be tough.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 12 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
It's famous for being the shield that never breaks. i know it has broken before but they're very rare
Wic23
Wic23 12 d
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So you can't say that it can only be broken by magical or omnipotent beings
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 10 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
In 616 it hasn't
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 6 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
No because if it can take hits from thor who's much stronger than superman and feel nothing well than supes couldn't
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Wic23
Wic23 13 d
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Superman is so much more powerful than thor
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 10 d
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@Wic23 he's not
Anti_Monitor
Anti_Monitor 1 mo 6 d
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@Tyrannus do you have the mental capacity of a frog? of course Superman can break vibranium... Is that some sort of sick joke? Superman has consistently wrecked multiversal Darkseid avatars and you think he'd be stopped by a puny little vibranium shield?
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AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 mo 6 d
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2 year member
Let's be nice to each other, okay?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 3 d
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@Anti_Monitor Starting off with insults eh. Always a sign someone doesn't know what they're talking about. Vibranium absorbs kinetic energy. The Adamantium only makes it that much stronger.
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 mo 7 d
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1 year member
Heck yes
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 7 d
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No he can't
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 7 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
@Tyrannus So someone without his peak strength could lift 200 Quintillion tons with 1 hand can't break a shield?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 3 d
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@EmptyHand Do you know what Cap's shield is made off. I've already debunked this in my first comment
Jakcj
Jakcj 1 mo 11 m
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1 year member
Oh trust me @Tyrannus. You don't want to see Superman's strength when he's pissed off
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 13 s
Can Superman break captain America shield??
Like I already said I debunked why Superman can't do anything to the shield. It's not a matter of punching the shield even stronger because vibranium absorbs kinetic energy. The adamantium only makes it that much stronger.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 29 d
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@Jakcj Superman could be crying, it wouldn't matter. He can't break the shield
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 7 d
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 7 d
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Cul and Thor are Norse gods and empowered by magic. Thanos was powered by the power stone from his infinity gauntlet
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 7 d
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Oops, I forgot that Thor had the Odinpower when he did that and Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 1 mo 6 d
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2 year member
@Dark_Wing Yeah. Thor had the Odin-Force (and he still only dented it) and Thanos used the Power Stone. Also, Cul used powerful magic to do so. Superman has none of those 3. He can't get past it.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 7 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
He can't break it at all no matter how hard he tried. It's not a matter of just hitting the shield hard enough, the vibranium just absorbs the kinetic energy and spreads it out. As if vibranium wasn't enough the shield's alloyed with adamantium, the strongest metal ever. Only magic can break the shield.
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Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 6 d
Can Superman break captain America shield??
also uru metal since fear itself