From Marvel: 1. The one above all
2. God of stories loki
3. Scathan the approver
4. Fulcrum
5. Nyx at house of ideas/Vision at house of ideas
6. Above all others
7.True form of oblivion
From vertigo:1. The presence
2. Lucifer morning star
3. Ellain belloc
From Dc: 1. Overvoid
2. The writer (Grant Morrison)
@MrJaeger ^^^
I don't want to start anything but if you are being serious than you should know two things: 1) @Breaker was kidding 2) "CIH > RKT" is bias at it's finest
@MrJaeger
1) In context that makes little sense.
2) If you agree with @Atemporal that TOBA is superior to Hulk, then you think that CIH is just plain old Hulk, and that Hulk destroys Thor and is the 5th most powerful character in the entire marvel universe.
1) Why does it makes only ''little'' sense?
2) What should I agree on with @Atemporal and what do you mean by ''old Hulk''? Also CIH isn't the 5th most powerful character in all of Marvel, maybe the 7th, in any case it would be in this order: 1. TOAA, 2. HOI, 3. TOBA, 4. Fulcrum, 5. TF Oblivion, 6. Beyonder / MM (pre-retcon), 7. SOW / CIH.
1) You're right it makes no sense whatsoever, because you could easily tell that you weren't.
2) You agree that TOBA is more powerful than CIH. In my opinion CIH is the second most powerful character in the Marvel universe, but according to @Atemporal CIH is just Hulk, without TOBA, and that Hulk ("savage" "base" Hulk) is the 5th most powerful character.
1) So if you want to believe that I really agreed RKT beats TOAA when I've voted against him in several battles with beings far weaker than TOAA, that's fine.
2) That's right, TOBA is far superior to CIH and if you thought he was the second most powerful Marvel character, you are totally wrong whatever your scaling method, if you want I can debunk it. Also @Atemporal is incredibly wrong.
Okay, but who cares about a Marvel Fanboy who is saying things he doesn't even know?
Luke Skywalker look at thor and do he knows all the possible ways to defeat thor
As I'm telling you I don't have that time to hate something like rkt. Also I'm not the only one who thinks rkt is just complex multiversal at best and scans shown to prove him higher makes no sense. For now I'm logging out I wasted too much time.
@Oblivion Yeah that's my point and the reason I think such ignorants like u should educate themselves is because of what you just did (call him fodder lmao)
Oh, are you going to try to prove me wrong? Or will you continue to resort to insults and the typical thing that an immature person uses so as not to look so ridiculous?
The non Marvel, Dc characters.
Anti-spiral
Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Kami Tenchi
The counter actor
Choushins
Akuto sai
The Law of identity
Any Hadou god
Chronos (saint seiya)
Sinbad (magi)
1. No
2. No
3. Stomp
4. Stomp
5. Stomp
6. I don't know him, probably yes.
7. The same as the one above
8. I don't know them
9.I don't believe
1.0 I don't know anything about this character
EmptyHand doesn't win against RKT cuz he's not that powerful and much less after it was confirmed RKT as an outversal tier, you can even ask to @EmptyHand who surely knows more about Empty
Empty is a Multiverse destroyer, it's no small thing, but RKT scales higher and Loki GOS who literally rules the stories of AoA doesn't see Thor as that.
One above all
One below all
Cosmic immortal hulk
Presence
Lucifer Morningstar
Beyonder
Living Tribunal
Elaine Belloc
Michael Demiurgos
Regulator Thanos
Protege (sucks but is true)
I know regulator thanos is way overrated but he absorbed infinity,eternity,living tribunal's power and so on so he can absorb rune king thor's power also.
Okay so here's a less OP version
1.Scathan
2.MM (Pre-Retcon)
3.Loki GOS
4.Oblivion
5.Vision HOI
6.First Fermament
7.Franklin Richards (Adult)
8.Chaos King
9.HOTU Thanos
10.GED
1.Mandrakk
2.Empty Hand
3.Phantom Stranger
4.Spectre
5.Gabriel
6.CAS
7.Nekron
8.Perpetua
9.Milkman Man
10.Darkseid (Soulfire)
but i dont understand , i checked the statistics of both rune king thor and one -above-all and the beyonders, all of them have everything maxed but still how can rune king thor be defeated?
1 Lucifer
2 Michael
3 Presence
4 Elaine belloc
5 Gabriel
6 Toaa
7 Toba
8 Cosmic immortal hulk
9 Spectre oversoul
10 Beyonder
11 Living Tribunal
12 Oblivion
13 Those who sit above in shadows
14 Nyx
15 God Spawn
16 Molecule man
17 Protege
18 Empty Hand
19 Endless
20 Thanos heart of the Universe
How does a multivese destroyer lose to thor?? I am talking about Empty Hand. And don't you there are countless who can defeat thor. Like Elaine,Michael,Featherine,Azathoth etc.
Cosmic Armor Superman
Spectre
God Spawn
Lifebringer Galactus
Dormammu w/ Eternity's Power
Mother Of Existence
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgous
Gabriel Hornblower
@EmptyHand "Good one", as you two would always say. You didn't even provide many feats for Rune King Thor and not a lot of your scans or scalings had anything to do with him. What's so impressive about scaring off a bunch of gods and breaking their cycle compared to a being who resisted plot manipulation and destroyed everything during his fight with someone capable of wiping out all of existence? It's really no wonder you and your friend didn't "slap" me there as you so arrogantly claim. You didn't even convince many users on this site with all you offered.
Silver Age Dr Fate
Unbound Spectre
Thought Robot
God Emperor Doom
Pre-Retcon Beyonder
Milkman Man
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgos
Molecule Man
Life Entity
Nekron
Fulcrum
Multi-Eternity
In the Silver Age it was Fate, not Nabu. Even in the current timeline Fate has given Spectre a decent fight before being ultimately defeated. Nabu himself fought Spectre in a different comic and let the Spectre "kill" him (he came back) to force him to find a host.
What's your point of saying you didn't say they were beyonders in this conversation . If they aren't beyonders according to you in this conversation then what are they and how RKT beat god doom
And I don't lack reading comprehension I didn't care cause it was pointless and you haven't proved a single point just making up things
I cannot take you as a serious debater, I no longer think the same as before and it may have changed my opinion that TWSAIS are beyonders, therefore I was emphatic with "in THIS conversation", in any case, what I currently believe is TWSAIS> >> Beyonders without making up things. Emperor Doom was given empowered by Molecule Man, and it was seen to be only slightly higher than the Infinity Gauntlet level, RKT is miles away above that.
Now you're getting childish cause don't you think it's too soon to start a rough conversation. This is debate so, I can agree with you that RKT is above infinity gauntlet level but so is god doom and I think it maybe hard fight but still doom wins
En sus formas básicas, la pelea serÃa casi infinita, los poderes de manipulación de energÃa de Carol nunca podrÃan matar a Hulk y no tengo claro que Hulk, con su fuerza pudiera hacerle una herida de la que ella no pudiera recuperarse. En cualquier caso, porque Hulk no se llega a agotar nunca y ella si y además su fuerza sigue aumentando con la rabia deduzco que Hulk serÃa el ganador.
@jon Says the moron who constantly made battles putting my OCs against his own and his favorite characters and later states he's not biased after all the times he voted against my OCs in those battles. You got slapped by me in that Wolverine vs Deathstroke battle, people have debunked your claims more than once in those Batman vs Captain America threads, and ypu couldn't even prove how Wanda beats Azathoth.
You attacking me for no reason? Those battles where old i already stopped doing that i forgot about the wolverine VS deathstroke battle Nobody debunked anything on Batman vs captain America show me what was debunked also i beat you on Scarlet witch VS azatoth you have yet to reply otherwise you lose
You didn't even come close to beating me and you know it. I've shown you plenty of instances of Azathoth making appearances in Marvel and you blatantly ignored all of it. I don't need to reply because that battle was finished from the start and you didn't prove how Wanda would win. Also, if you really stopped doing that then you wouldn't have made this battle not too long ago.
It is, for next time, don't get into conversations where you haven't been called and whose answers won't like you, besides, I don't need you to be on my side.
@MrJaeger Anyone is allowed to join in on any conversation they like. I guarantee you if I'd taken your side here you wouldn't have insisted I not help you out.
It's unpleasant that third parties enter something that doesn't concern them and if you are a mature person you should think the same, also if you had been on my side, it would be completely the same.
It may be unpleasant for you sure because you were in the wrong and violated the rules on this site. And I actually commented not too long after you did so I didn't actually join in late like you want to believe.
I've never seen you tell someone who was agreeing with you to go away so that's rubbish.
Rune King Thor would one-shot Flash. A herald tier character that would struggle to beat Superman or Wonder Woman against an abstract being that would scale to the Celestials and Eternity? It doesn't sound very fair...
TOAA,
The Presence
Azathot,
2. God of stories loki
3. Scathan the approver
4. Fulcrum
5. Nyx at house of ideas/Vision at house of ideas
6. Above all others
7.True form of oblivion
From vertigo:1. The presence
2. Lucifer morning star
3. Ellain belloc
From Dc: 1. Overvoid
2. The writer (Grant Morrison)
I don't want to start anything but if you are being serious than you should know two things: 1) @Breaker was kidding 2) "CIH > RKT" is bias at it's finest
1) Me too
2) It's actually CIH >> RKT, those who would >>> to RKT must be characters like Lucifer, HOI tiers or TOBA.
1) In context that makes little sense.
2) If you agree with @Atemporal that TOBA is superior to Hulk, then you think that CIH is just plain old Hulk, and that Hulk destroys Thor and is the 5th most powerful character in the entire marvel universe.
2) What should I agree on with @Atemporal and what do you mean by ''old Hulk''? Also CIH isn't the 5th most powerful character in all of Marvel, maybe the 7th, in any case it would be in this order: 1. TOAA, 2. HOI, 3. TOBA, 4. Fulcrum, 5. TF Oblivion, 6. Beyonder / MM (pre-retcon), 7. SOW / CIH.
2) You agree that TOBA is more powerful than CIH. In my opinion CIH is the second most powerful character in the Marvel universe, but according to @Atemporal CIH is just Hulk, without TOBA, and that Hulk ("savage" "base" Hulk) is the 5th most powerful character.
2) That's right, TOBA is far superior to CIH and if you thought he was the second most powerful Marvel character, you are totally wrong whatever your scaling method, if you want I can debunk it. Also @Atemporal is incredibly wrong.
2) Prove that "TOBA is far superior to CIH", and that CIH is not the second most powerful Marvel character.
Luke Skywalker look at thor and do he knows all the possible ways to defeat thor
(Lucifer alone and the others overrated like Oblivion, Galactus etc.)
Anti-spiral
Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Kami Tenchi
The counter actor
Choushins
Akuto sai
The Law of identity
Any Hadou god
Chronos (saint seiya)
Sinbad (magi)
2. No
3. Stomp
4. Stomp
5. Stomp
6. I don't know him, probably yes.
7. The same as the one above
8. I don't know them
9.I don't believe
1.0 I don't know anything about this character
2. Yes
Do you even know them.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/348559042479652864/381284348185280512/RCO062_1467609671.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5He6laN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ke11u3K.jpg
1. Mr Mxyzptlk
2. Galactus w/Ultimate Nullifier
3. Coie Spectre
4. Multi-Eternity
5. Multi-Oblivion
6. Empty Hand
7. Cosmic Armor Superman
8. Mandrakk
9. First Firmament
10. Cosmic Immortal Hulk
2. Hell no
3. Idk
4. No
5. Yes
6. No
7. Maybe
8. Maybe
9. Yes
10. Yes
2. Hell no
3. No
4.Hell no
5.Maybe
6. Hell no
7.Hell no
8.No.
9. No.
10. Yes
One below all
Cosmic immortal hulk
Presence
Lucifer Morningstar
Beyonder
Living Tribunal
Elaine Belloc
Michael Demiurgos
Regulator Thanos
Protege (sucks but is true)
SPITE.
1.Scathan
2.MM (Pre-Retcon)
3.Loki GOS
4.Oblivion
5.Vision HOI
6.First Fermament
7.Franklin Richards (Adult)
8.Chaos King
9.HOTU Thanos
10.GED
1.Mandrakk
2.Empty Hand
3.Phantom Stranger
4.Spectre
5.Gabriel
6.CAS
7.Nekron
8.Perpetua
9.Milkman Man
10.Darkseid (Soulfire)
1. Idk
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Hell no
9. No
10. Yes
2nd list:
1. Maybe
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. Yes
6. Maybe
7. Idk
8. Hell no
9. Yes
10. Hell no
In that case RKT wins.
2 Michael
3 Presence
4 Elaine belloc
5 Gabriel
6 Toaa
7 Toba
8 Cosmic immortal hulk
9 Spectre oversoul
10 Beyonder
11 Living Tribunal
12 Oblivion
13 Those who sit above in shadows
14 Nyx
15 God Spawn
16 Molecule man
17 Protege
18 Empty Hand
19 Endless
20 Thanos heart of the Universe
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Maybe
6. Yes
7. Yes
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. No
11. No
12. Yes
13. Yes
14. Yes
15. No
16. Yes
17. No
18. No
19. Hell no
20. Hell no
Empty Hand.
Lucifer.
Mandrakk.
Cosmic Immortal Hulk.
God Emperor Doom.
Life Force Doctor Doom.
And many many others
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
No
Such as who?
Spectre
God Spawn
Lifebringer Galactus
Dormammu w/ Eternity's Power
Mother Of Existence
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgous
Gabriel Hornblower
No
No
No
No
No
Yes
Yes
Maybe
Unbound Spectre
Thought Robot
God Emperor Doom
Pre-Retcon Beyonder
Milkman Man
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgos
Molecule Man
Life Entity
Nekron
Fulcrum
Multi-Eternity
Chthon
Superman strange visitor
God emperor doom
Oblivion
Pralaya
Cosmic immortal hulk stomps
The fulcrum
God Doom doesn't even come close to their level
And I don't lack reading comprehension I didn't care cause it was pointless and you haven't proved a single point just making up things
https://images.app.goo.gl/ePU7jd7nH55fNQVcA
I've never seen you tell someone who was agreeing with you to go away so that's rubbish.
@Windshadow Thor is overrated, not Barry. Flash isn't trash.