Divine SpawnvsBeerus

Created by EmptyHand

4 wins (57.1%)
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3 wins (42.9%)
Beerus (Beerus) 18
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soulcollecter34
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
not voted This is paraphrased from a while ago in a separate debate I said, but to prove that Dragon Ball has WAY more than just 12 universes, "There is all of the movies, GT, Xeno, and each of those follow the same exact thing and the main universe has more than just 2 timelines, in fact there is the main one, the one where Trunks saves the future, the one where Trunks and Krillin kill Cell before he can be created, and the timeline where Cell killed Trunks that's four right there and then you add on the movies which is 20 which is including Dragon Ball and Evolution and each one of those universes has the at least 4 Future Trunks time lines so 21 x 4 is 84 universes, you then take into account each has 3 universe sized realms in it, so 252 and then you spit that among GT and Xeno and that's 504, then you take into account how many timelines are within Xeno with all of the parallel quests within both Xenoverse games which each is it's own timeline so 78,624 and then that x 18 for the amount of universes and that would be 1,415,232 known universes within Dragon Ball actually it's 1,415,234"
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_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Clearly, you really haven't read the Spawn comics. If you did, you'd realize that Al's much stronger than you actually depict him to be. Spawn's able to take on 2 beings that can either create or destroy more than a single universe and yet he can't defeat a god who can't even create nor destroy at least 2 universes at the same time? Yeah, makes sense. You should probably stop typing right now before you lose all your thunder and take the time to read the respect threads I linked to.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus You should stop being so insufferably arrogant and do some actual research, and accept the fact that Beerus is not only universal. You've already been given the calculation putting the Battle of Gods feat alone at 110x universal. Saying Beerus is only capable of destroying a single universe is just downplay.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Oh, and really, you're going to say I haven't read all the Spawn comics? I'm sorry, I wasn't aware you were clairvoyant and know what I have or haven't done. Get out of here with that. Quit being such an arrogant ****.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Oh, and if we're making assumptions about what the other has or hasn't done, then you clearly haven't watched any of Dragon Ball Super or done any research on it whatsoever and are just going on assumptions and some caveman-level logic.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn So, you resort to insults now, assumptions & foul language just because you're wrong? And are you really gonna put everything you say in caps? Wow, you really have lost your thunder.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus I actually did not swear, the word I used was ****. And you cannot say anything about assumptions, you've been making assumptions since the beginning.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus The word was j*rk.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Sure, of course, it was that word. So you saying "I honestly feel like you just don't want to accept the fact that Beerus is far stronger than Divine Spawn, just because he comes from Dragon Ball" doesn't mean you're making an assumption too?
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus I didn't say that wasn't an assumption. But the fact is that you've been making assumptions since the start, and you've done it a lot more than I have.
EmptyHand
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
Divine Spawn D Spawn >= God >>> Beerus
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LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Wrong. Beerus >>> Divine Spawn >>> God.
EmptyHand
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
Divine Spawn Let me rephrase myself, Divine spawn >>> God = Satan >>> Beerus
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Until you find some feats that put both God and Satan above multi-universal, they're beneath Beerus.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn @LordTracer So basically two beings that created multiple universes are beneath someone who couldn't even create one?
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Oh my... I already showed that Beerus is 110x universal when suppressed. He is far beyond Image's God and Satan.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn For the last time, that's not a multiversal feat. Just because it's a multiplier doesn't mean he can actually destroy an entire multiverse. Beerus doesn't even come close to the Omni King's power and you should know that by now. There are only 13 universes in the entire ****ing franchise and that's 3 universes short of Satan and God's universes combined. Your reasoning in Team Beerus vs Team Old King Thor is just as flawed as your reasoning in this battle here and God Spawn vs Beerus. I honestly feel like you've been so obsessed in Dragon Ball that you completely forgot about how powerful Spawn actually is.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Beerus couldn't even come back from having his own self being erased from existence like Spawn did after being pierced by Angela's lance.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3238774-angela+vs+spawn+%239+%282%29.png
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn And need I remind you that Spawn created a new Eden and shook all of Hell as Hell King?
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Not to mention the fact that Spawn can just depower Beerus as he did with just a couple of demons. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3065502-spawn+ability+re+empower+magic+beings+%281%29.jpg
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn By the way, has Beerus shown any reality warping feats like this?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3244579-spawn+ability+magic+poisons+blood+%282%29.jpg
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn I don't even recall Beerus displaying any feats of telepathy just like Spawn did to this kid.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123441/3065489-spawn+ability+tp+personel+hell+%283%29.jpg
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Not even Beerus is without sin. One of the advantages that Spawn has is the ability to strengthen his power by feeding off the sin of other people. Do you see Beerus doing that?
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn The point that I'm trying to make is that Spawn doesn't at all need to be in his Divine state to beat Beerus. He's got plenty of feats with & without transformations that show he can hold his own. You, on the other hand, just showed some multipliers & claimed that God / Divine Spawn is the only version of Spawn that can take on Beerus. I showed you those respect threads to give you a refresher & prove to you that Divine Spawn isn't needed to beat Beerus.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Heck, you didn't even show me any feats of any other of Beerus' powers.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Do you even know who the Omni King is? He's a true example of a multiversal threat, alongside with Demigra. If you were to use any of those 2 characters against Spawn, then it would be a fight that Spawn would have trouble with.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Yes, the multiplier do make Beerus scale to multiversal levels, and it puts him far above anything God and Satan have ever done. And no, there are not only thirteen universes in the franchise, ANYBODY WHO ACTUALLY DOES RESEARCH ON THE SHOW SHOULD KNOW THIS. I honestly feel like you just don't want to accept the fact that Beerus is far stronger than Divine Spawn, just because he comes from Dragon Ball. And the fact that you said DEMIGRA is a multiversal threat and Beerus is not just shows how utterly limited your knowledge on Dragon Ball is and you have no authority to talk about it. You know why? BECAUSE DEMIGRA IS WEAKER THAN BEERUS. And you've still given no feats from God, Satan or Divine Spawn that are even on the level of God Goku, let alone Beerus himself. Meanwhile, your only refute against that is some caveman-level logic of "tHeRe'S oNlY 13 uNiVeRseS," when it's been shown and very clearly detailed that there are far more than that, you just need to do some actual research.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Oh, and all those hax you showed? Congratulations, Spawn has hax, I already knew that. If you actually knew how ki worked, you'd know that hax become more ineffective the stronger a character is. So none of that **** works on Beerus. By the way, your comment of "Beerus couldn't come back from having his own self being erased from existence," BEERUS WAS NEVER ERASED. BY ANYBODY. YOU'RE ACTUALLY JUST MAKING THINGS UP NOW.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Oh, now I get what you're saying: Beerus is not only a God of Destruction but also an Omni King that can erase all the universes in the Dragon Ball Super franchise if he wanted to. He's so absurdly strong that nobody with superior strength or more abilities can actually beat him. Tell you what, we're just gonna agree with your BS Anti-Logic Equation right there.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus *facepalm* Okay, your attitude is really irritating now, and frankly, it's unwarranted. No, I'm not saying not saying Beerus is Omni-King level. I am giving the FACT that Beerus is easily more powerful than God, Satan and Divine Spawn, and the FACT that ki users become resistant to hax the stronger they become. If you've actually watch Dragon Ball, you would know this.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Obviously, you didn't read my comment about existence erasure. I specifically meant I wanted to see Beerus come back from having his existence erased like Spawn did, and so far you haven't once shown me a single feat that displays such a thing.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn And clearly, you really haven't read the Spawn comics. If you did, you'd realize that Al's much stronger than you actually depict him to be. Spawn's able to take on 2 beings that can either create or destroy more than a single universe and yet he can't defeat a god who can't even create nor destroy at least 2 universes at the same time? Yeah, makes sense. You should probably stop typing right now before you lose all your thunder and take the time to read the respect threads I linked to.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus For the third time, if the hax is coming from someone inferior to the ki user, it is ineffective. For example, Buuhan is weaker than Vegito. Buuhan transmutated Vegito into candy. Except Vegito could continue to fight. His hax was less effective. Another example, Hit is weaker than Jiren. Jiren easily overpowered his Time Skip.

Also, I like you how skimmed over the fact that you actually just made something up with your statement of "Beerus couldn't even come back from having his own self being erased from existence," when Beerus has never been erased.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn You also don't seem to know who the Omni King is. Well, let me give you some knowledge about that. He's a being that rules over an entire multiverse and has casually wiped out more than one universe than Beerus has. Originally there were 18 universes, but he wiped out 5 or 6 of them, thus leaving only twelve or thirteen universes left in the Dragon Ball Super timeline. Not to mention the fact he's feared by Beerus and Champa who are only Gods of Destruction.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Yeah no ****, I know who Zeno is. And really, you're bringing up the destruction of Universes 13 - 18, the fact that I HAD TO TELL YOU?
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus And no, there are not only twelve universes remaining, because again, MULTIVERSE THEORY. There are infinite timelines in the canon Dragon Ball multiverse, and that is factual.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Yes, there are only 13 universes. Your multiverse theory doesn't have any evidence to prove otherwise.

https://tay.kinja.com/dragon-ball-supers-multiverse-explained-1795971478
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Are you serious? You're using a fan made article as evidence? Dude, at least try to do some research. If you know what multiverse theory actually is, you'd know that there is no numerical amount of timelines, it is either countless or infinite. There's not only twelve universes, again, that's caveman logic.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Okay, how many universes are there then? Don't just say infinite, cause I'm not buying it. And before you tell me, type the question into Google.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus I'm not about to use Google for my argument, that's so lame. There's countless universes to infinite, because that's how multiverse theory works. It's that simple. And if you want proof of multiverse theory applying in Dragon Ball, watch the Android Saga, where Trunks affecting the main timeline doesn't affect the future timeline, which is multiverse theory in action and Trunks himself confirming multiverse theory in the manga. If you need the scan for that, I'll bring it.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn And by the way, what Buu was doing was causing holes to form in the dimensional walls between universes to weaken. If this kept up they would have crumbled allowing other universes to rush through and completely crush their own universe into oblivion. This is in no way represents some raw power feat for Buu, he's not even the one causing the destruction, nothing more than a chain reaction at best on Buu''s part.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus What the hell, why are you bringing up Buuhan's Vice Shout? And that is a universal level feat for him, it was even stated in Daizenshuu 7 that it was Buu who was destroying the universe, and everything in the Daizenshuu is approved by series creator Akira Toriyama, so yeah, Buuhan's universal.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn So, Google, the most widely used search engine in the entire world, is lame? Where else do you think we get most of our research and information from, then?
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn Technically, you're the one who brought Buuhan up, so don't go asking me any questions, there.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn And yet again, you still haven't answered my question. I already told you that if you say there are infinite, then I wasn't buying it.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus The idea of just searching something up on Google and saying that's evidence is lame. Otherwise, one could just do something like look up who wins between Thor and Superman, read some misinformation and consider it fact.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus And I did answer your question. I said there were at least countless, which is not the same as infinite. Either way, it's more than any numerical amount, and certainly more than 12.
AndreasVer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus @_Holy_Joe mabye from going into a book store, buying a few thousand comic books, reading them dozens of times and memorizing them? Everyone can search any topic on google. There are even more information to discover about science than there are about comic books by searching stuff on google but no one can become a scientist by anything they learn from google, right? It's just not enough and especially not coherent, consisent and complete information when you get it primarily from google.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus And no, I didn't bring up Buuhan destroying the universe, which is what my question actually was. You brought up his universal feat, I brought him up as evidence to support the fact that hax becomes ineffective against a stronger opponent.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn @LordTracer You clearly said Buuhan's universal. Not only that, countless could mean, if not "does" mean infinite.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Yes, and I said it only after you brought up his universal feat. And countless can mean infinite, however most of the time it is not considered to be the same.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn On the contrary, you mentioned Buuhan before me.
LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus I know this, but I did not bring up his universal feat. That was you.
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
1 year member
Divine Spawn @LordTracer Okay, look, I apologize for the misunderstanding and the long unnecessary continuation of this debate. I respect your opinion. However, I don't agree with you on the multiverse theory. Having only watched the Dragon Ball Super anime, I've always accepted that there were just 13 universes, along with the other 5 destroyed universes. I don't read the manga as much as I watch the anime, so my reasoning is far different than yours. Again, I respect your opinion, but I don't agree with your multiverse theory. Do you respect my opinion?
AndreasVer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus No @_Holy_Joe than son of a b1tch @LordTracer doesn't respect anyone's opinion! He deleted my comments because he's sucking @Galactus' c0ck or more probably paying him a sh1t load of money from his rich momma who's a b1tch just like I said before in order to become a moderator and delete anyone's comments so that he's the best [email protected] debater by [email protected] each SHDB's @$$ in order to defend his paranoid bullsh1t ratings at almost half SHDB characters with his b1tchy editing upon them!
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LordTracer
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
2 year member
Beerus Yes, I respect your opinion. While I disagree with it, I do respect it.
EmptyHand
Divine Spawn vs Beerus
Divine Spawn @Lardtracer do you respect my opinion?

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Bane333
Beerus wins!
Dark_Wing
Divine Spawn wins!
TheSuspect666
Divine Spawn wins!
AndreasVer
Beerus wins!
_Holy_Joe_
Divine Spawn wins!
LordTracer
Beerus wins!
EmptyHand
Divine Spawn wins!