Who has the greatest willpower in comics?

How do any of these charachters have more willpower then ion who is the concept of willpower? Hal should also be higher then Captain America Hal created his own ring with his willpower he defeated Zod amped by 2 suns and oneshotted Krona Batman should also be higher or equal to Cap he overwhelmed the spectre with his willpower

The Thing has good willpower and heart but I wouldn't put him at #1

idk about Logan

Forgot about Ion

Don't forget Dr Doom

Agreed

Yeah i read that

Who Downvoted?

I upvoted but you don't need to keep asking that.

Why Batthor?

I'm a bit unsure about whether Hal would have more willpower than Captain America, and where Doom would place. You could say they're interchangeable... and yeah, I could have included other Green Lanterns like Kyle or John but then it would become redundant.

I think hal is above captain America and so is batman and where is superman?

Superman would be below them, but if you really want to place him somewhere, you could try to get him above Lobo. Hal and Captain America are interchangable. Batman is not.

Yeah batman is sure above captain America

But he doesn't have the EXACT feats to put him above.

And Batman is DEFINITELY not above Hal.

Read what Remy94 above said

That's a great feat. Not enough to place him above Captain America or Green Lantern.

Cap his serum enhanced his stamina batman don't need enhancements he never gives up batman trained himself to the best what batman experienced could have made People insane but not batman he has way better willpower feats batman could kill his villians but he don't someone like Cap would already have killed them all Batman his only mission is to stop crime for Gotham and leave the cowl

For the last time in the world. The serum has NOTHING to do with Steve's willpower. Stop using that as if it automatically means Batman is better. Just because you have the serum doesn't make you Captain America. Captain America is special, not because of the serum, but who he is. The serum does not make you Captain America. Steve Rogers is Captain America. He always was. It's not about the serum. For the last time. Killing is irrelevant. Honestly, Batman is an IDIOT for letting some people go every time. Captain America also wouldn't kill mentally insane people. He believes in a better justice system. Now, if it was a war... then yeah, he'll kill you if he absolutely needs to, but he believes there's always another way. Captain America wouldn't killed all of them. And you speak of killing as if it makes someone have less will. Hal Jordan has killed people and he has more willpower than Batman can ever hope to achieve. And if you want to look at street-tier characters, Punisher has a LOT of willpower and he'll go for the kill from the beginning.

The thing is the serum made captain America not tire batman has human problems he can tire but he still don't give up there are 2 forms of willpower the Will from preventing yourself of doing action or the Will of never giving up batman has both punisher cant stop himself from killing People

Captain America has both, and neither come from the serum. Punisher could. He chooses not to.

You ignored everything
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@jong You keep ignoring how the SSS works for some reason. Cap will never give up even in impossible odds. Batman's more likely to run away

Batman don't run away

He's ran away from Wonder Woman, Darkseid, Superman, BWL etc

Never happened

@Tyrannus: when did Batman run from those guys? Batman faced down Darkseid, has fought Superman despite by his own concession Clark could kill him at any time, and he has an entire contingency plan for Diana just like all the other JLA members.

Prep doesn't count. When Wonder Woman refused to give up a murderer under her protection she sent Batman running away. He gave up because the odds were against him.

If captain America was there the same would happen wonder woman had batman and he could not move anymore if Cap was there the same would happen

Also batman never Ran away from anyone you mentioned

Actually no he wouldn't because I've already shown you he stood up to IG Thanos. Batman did ran away from WOnder Woman. You keep making false statements to back to Batman. Stop this bias.

Batman stood up to darkseid so.. if Cap Cant move he Cant do anything so...

Not the same as what Cap did. He was willing to die. Batman left as soon as they got Kara back.

Maybe because that was his goal ? Batman has sacrificed himself many times

He leaves when he can.

When he wants or when his goal is someting else

No. @Tyrannus is right here. He leaves when he has the oppurtunity to leave, even if it's not the right thing to do. Cap puts the right thing to do above his own goals, and stands there even when no one refuses to side with him. That's what makes him have the better willpower.

that has nothing to do with willpower batman just don't cares about everything he just does what needs to be done batman is also Willing to die he sacrificed himself many times before

It does have to do with willpower because Cap will always do the honourable thing no matter the cost. Evert thing your saying for Batman cap has already done

technically Ion has the most willpower since it is the embodiment of all willpower.

Agreed @Aries

Ion>lucifer>Hal>>>everyone else

You forgot Batman

You don't have to bring up Batman everytime someone excludes Batman...

Batman>hal>cap

it takes a heck lot of willpower to even hold a Lantern ring much less pull it off someone who is wearing it look what hal says and batman

Also batman >superman

And doctor doom and Thor are also below

@jong All of that is just wrong and has been explained before.

@Tyrannus Hal gas greater willpower i changed my mind a time ago however Batman his willpower should be superior to cap his willpower overwhelmed the spectre twice

@Jongensoden When?

@Tyrannus

That wasn't him overwhelming Spectre. In the 1st scan Spectre grabs him immediately afterwards and in the 2nd, Hal left because that's what Batman asked for. Batman cannot overwhelm God's wraith

Batman is above captain America

Agreed with mxy

Never been shown to be the case. Know who Cap is first

I know who he is Batman has superior willpower

Clearly not because Cap is known for having the strongest willpower in comics. He never gives up in the face of impossible odds.

Batman is also known for that

He's not known like Cap is. People look up to Cap.

That's one of the reasons i like Batman his willpower

I look up to batman

I'm not saying you shouldn't but Cap is known for it far more. He's man among gods and monsters who fights with nothing but a shield

I could switch Captain America's position with Doctor Doom, and I might do that.

Batman’s will is strong enough to overwhelm the Spectre 😂😂😂 also you did not include Hal who made his own ring using willpower and survived a blast my mogo amped by the whole corps. Also where tf is ion? It should be 1 Ion 2 lucifer 3Hal Jordan 4 Batman 5 Superman/Thanos

Agreed

Hal did say batman has greater willpower

He was wrong because the ring chose him

Because otherwise there is no batman

No it's just because Hal's better

Except it's proven multiple times batman is better

Who wears the ring?

Dawnbreaker has solod the corps

Agreed

Who downvoted?

fanboys 😂

Agreed

Batman>Cap in willpower

Why do you keep trying to put Cap down in favour of Batman? Cap's just superior to Batman

Nope

No evidence

Have you given any evidence?

Yes. Many times. Cap is boosted. His feats are far better than Batman's

This is willpower has nothing to do with psychically feats even tough Batman is psychically superior it's irrelevant here batman his Mind is also superior

Well Batman has never topped Cap's feats. It's Cap who's known for his will, not Batman

Batman also

Read more on Cap

@Tyrannus Hal states that Batman’s will is something a Green Lantern would envy

I forgot about him. In a way in much easier to push yourself physically rather than mentally

batman has higher then cap

No he doesn't.

Yes

Cap has a stronger will. Batman would leave to fight another day, Cap would keep fighting to his last breath

Batman would not leave he would fight until the win it dont matter if his face is burned hiw whole body is broken he would keep fighting even if its someone like superman or thanos

He leaves all the time because he's smart and knows when he's outclassed

He don't leave lol

He left when WW humbled him when she was protecting a criminal

That doesn't explain how Batman has a better will than Cap.

Cap his serum enhanced his stamina batman don't need enhancements he never gives up batman trained himself to the best what batman experienced could have made People insane but not batman he has way better willpower feats batman could kill his villians but he don't someone like Cap would already have killed them all Batman his only mission is to stop crime for Gotham and leave the cowl

The serum didn't change Cap mentally. He's always had the will but since the serum he can go through and fight. Batman does need enhancements because he always has prep, gadgets and his suit. Cap doesn't kill unless necessary. Also Cap has done all that and more. Batman wouldn't leave the cowl. He knows they'll always be crime

The serum did not change him mentally but it changed his stamina to unlimited batman does and can tire but he don't give up those enhanchements don't change his stamina Again that proves Cap is mentally weaker do you know everything the joker did if Cap was there he would have give it up and killed him It's his mission

Batman may want to keep going but he physically can't. Cap can. Just because Cap can do things Batman can't does not make Cap mentally weaker. That makes the opposite true. You have absolutely no idea who Cap is. That reply proves it completely. Once you read up more on him you'll see Cap is actually better in every way.

I have readen many Cap comics i never saw.him having that great willpower Batman keeps going until the last breath

Batman ran away after WW humbled him. Cap stared Thanos in the face in the Infinity Gauntlet and told him he'd die stopping him despite him previously backhanding stronger beings beforehand

If Cap was there the same would happen batman could not move if cap was there the same Batman threatened the spectre to leave his city or he would make him Batman had courage to save Robin from darkseid Batman sacrificed himself multiple times

Cap faced far worse with Thanos and the IG. Cap would have done the very same things and then some

lets just say they are equals in courage and willpower

How?

Do I really need to explain this. Okay, I will. In Thor Worldengine by Stan Lee Thor literally pushes himself to his physically and mentally limits as described in his inner monologue https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-077df5d83c1569e23f33dc6e81d835ce https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4ddea5d6313e3e4f181bde6be23a4120 when he reversed the Worldengine. That's just the first example that comes to mind. How about the time where he flew right into Onslaught's true form after his armor was destroyed by the Hulk knowing that he'll not make it out, Thor's literally admitted he was fodder to Onslaught https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f13a1b2cffd950e82b3716b9adf1005d-c? How about in Chaos War Thor #1 where he continued to fight while his mind was being attacked by Glory? How about when he took Odin's place and set out to stop the Ragnorok cycle which happened in Thor issues 80 to 85? How about when he helped a bunch of other Avengers in an attempt to stop the Phoenix Force in Avengers #27 by Jonathan Hickman? Or in Fear Itself when he is pushed to his very limit throughout the event and literally collapses at the end of book 5?

Haters downvoted

I can see that. Smh.

Infinite willpower, what would happen if he got a green lantern ring?

How?

Batman has better

Batman has been through worse

He doesn't have the better will though

he does

Nothing to prove that

He has been trough worse Base Joker shot barbara gordon paralyzing her base Joker beat Jason Todd to death with a crowbar Joker leads the entire Bat family of sidekicks to believe Batman has failed them so epically that he allowed Joker to cut off their faces and have Alfred serve them to them on a platter and he still not killed the joker he is stronger mentally put captain America or spiderman there and they would already have killed him

Bringing Spider-man into this only hurts your case because he's even better. Batman refusing to kill doesn't necessarily mean he has a strong will. By that logic Joker has an equally strong will because he refuses to conform to order. Cap would kill Joker not because he lacks will but because it should have been done a long time ago. He has no rules about that.

There are 2 forms of Will preventing yourself from doing An action even if you really want to joker is not preventing himself from doing anything

Batman and Joker are 2 sides of the same coin. Batman wants to bring about order while Joker wants to maintain chaos. It's slightly different.

Joker has nothing to do with willpower he just brings chaos and wants to prover everyone is insane like him even batman so he does worse things in the hope of making batman insane or kill him batman is stronger mentally and dont break his rule spiderman or cap would have killed him