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What is something you like or believe in which you know your in the minority or is hated
What say you?
Superman needs no explanation.
WW has no weaknesses and is on par with Superman.
Batman already has plans to take everyone out.
Green Lantern should be able to take out every JL member if he actually used his imagination and stopped holding back.
Flash would end everyone before they knew it.
Shazam is stronger than Superman and almost as fast as Flash.
batman doesnt need prep time bc he is always prepared for everything i also do believe he is amongst one of the most powerfull characters
deathstroke beats deadpool low diff
according to my (current) (unpopular) opinion :
Wonder Woman is part of the trinity for DC and was well famous even before her movies and TV shows. I'd also include Robin because of how famous Batman and Robin were together.
The X-Men were as popular as Spider-Man and Wolverine was seen as the face of the mutants.
Hulk was also seen as Marvel's big 3 (Spider-Man, Wolverine and Hulk). In fact Hulk was actually voted 27th most influential people on university students which included real life people too.
Spider-Man came 28th.
Captain America only became as popular as he is today because of the MCU but even then I wouldn't say he's smaller than the Thing.
On a side note I'm actually glad to see someone giving support to such an underrated character. I think there was a comic where the Champion held a tournament with all the strongest heroes in Marvel. And surprisingly I think the Thing won despite competing against people like Hulk, Thor and Hercules because Ben had heart.
I can't remember which comic it was from though
( Ultimate edition)
Since we're talking about Watchmen, some other things:
Nothing besides the original comic is cannon. Alan Moore only wanted that to be cannon, and so only that it.
Rorschach is not meant to be idolized. He's not a hero, or even a good person. You could argue about who's right all you want, but most importantly Rorschach is not a good person and not meant to be idolized. If you think Rorschach is a "cool" character, you need to wait a bit to grow up, and then reread the book.
This last thing is just my opinion, but Ozymandias was right.
About superman most fanboys say a simple sun dip allows him to defeat any opponent.
i thought cw made gotham but i guess i'm wrong.
the Almighty Potato> all memeverse, all memepotence characters, and Transfiction, impersonal fiction and all that exists.
Quicksilver's death was more sad than Iron Man's
Andrew Garfield > Tom Holland > Toby Macguire
At least the Toby Parker was smart, opposed to Holland. Parker is supposed to be a genius. Where's that in Holland's portrayal. He's great in his teen-role Parker, but we're three movies in,.. get smart already!
The idea of adamantium/vibranium and unstoppable healing factors is lazy, because they take away the idea of fights actually having stakes. Wonder Woman and Thor are literally gods, but their fights are much more entertaining and actually have stakes. But in fights with wolverine bp and deadpool? Nope! Here's an example: Put Deadpool against someone like Deathstroke who's the better fighter, has superior armor, is smarter, quicker to react, AND has superior feats. Deathstroke, despite all of these advantages, would still lose just because of Deadpool's healing factor. Blow his head off? He's fine. Run him over with a car? He's fine. Burn him alive until only his skeleton is left? He's fine. It takes all of the stakes out of fights since the writers can always fall back on the "you can't get past his healing factor" excuse. Same with Wolverine. Put him against someone about equal physically like Bane. Despite Bane being stronger and smarter, he can't even give Logan a fight at all. Why? Because of his healing factor and adamantium skeleton which you can't break. Bane could punch and pound and kick the crap out of Logan until he was a bloody pulp, and it wouldn't even matter. Also, take Black Panther. Put him against someone similar skill-wise like Batman or Captain America. The fight wouldn't have any stakes at all. Despite Bat and Cap being his equal skill-wise and tactically, his armor makes all of their skill irrelevant since they can't even touch him. Any character that has either an unbreakable suit/skeleton and a healing factor that literally can't be overpowered is not a good character.
He killed the titans Giyas and Garamas before they became Omnipotent.
Still stomps fodder Toaa
"and he doesn't blink fiction"
But still stomp Fodder Above Fodders
Well, then, when will be Paul Blart's movie: Mall Cop 3
Edit:I don't know which is this guy who downvoted my every comment
Personally I'm a very happy person :)
My personal cure is isolation. Time heals all wounds.
grey matter>brainstorm>T'challa>batman>M.O.D.O.K>bruce banner=tony>lex
He can’t hold a candle to this guy^
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I was a bit confused when reading your comment. Not trying to be a grammer n*zi this time. Just trying to help.
this scene alone is better than whole movie
The Elder scrolls > Cthulhu Mythos >> Umineko
That's a fact btw
- The creator
- Qlippoth & Sefiros
- SCP 3812
He doesn't deserve the Hate he gets
In terms of character
Griffith >>> Guts
DC >>>... Marvel
1 - Infinity War
2 - Captain America: Winter Soldier
3 - Thor Ragnarok
Winter Soldier is regarded as one of the better MCU movies.
Dormammu (MCU) >>> Thano (Infinity Gauntlet) (MCU) >>> Hela (MCU)
-Ooh! Another unpopular opinion! RoTS is overrated. Its a fine movie but people act like its a religious text.
-Oh! Another one! The Mandolorian is trash. Its a generic TV show that happens to be Star Wars. It's predictable and the characters are just okay.
He had the high ground
"Few survive an encounter with the most powerful Sith in the Galaxy.
Escape is the only chance of survival".
Aside from Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine and Jogo's Fire Meteor, JJK has not yet shown destructive feats en par with the higher tiers from HST.
JJK can only compete with them because of Gojo's completely broken Limitless ability, which is well-suited for NLF arguments.
it's more on the "gory" and "gritty" side in comparison to most other shonen / action manga I've read (and I've read ~ 40+).
Its art is among the best I've seen.
Its story , for now, seems pretty complicated and it's unpredictable what will happen.
All in all, I find JJK (the manga) is clearly one of the very best I've read, with a lot of potential.
Maybe it will stay with us for many years to come.
Trish theme >>> Giorno theme
• Thor is Universal in power and, when not holding back, can beat the likes of beings such as Galactus or even Death.
• There is no such thing as an "Outerverse." The comics make it very clear that the most destructive thing a character can do is destroy a Multiverse.
• Superman is fodder and way too overrated.
• Thor can solo the entire Justice League.
• Thor is one of, if not the most powerful heroes in all of comics.
• Many more that I cannot think of right now.
@Mr_Incognito: Those are arguments of my own. I am the one who argues them. I came up with them. Now, if I recall correctly, my influence spans but only a tiny, tiny portion of the entire internet, that being a little website called Superhero Database. That means if my arguments are considered popular, that only applies to the general public of the Superhero Database website. But, as a comic book community as a whole, that is, again, a very small portion of the community. So, maybe they are popular on this website, but when considering it's popularity as a whole, they are not very popular at all. Unless you are saying my influence has reached the majority of the comic book community, in which case, yeah, they are popular by definition, but I'm pretty sure that is not the case. Unless, of course, I've missed something for the past 7 months. But I highly doubt it. Anyways, in what way are they wrong?
@Taurus: What other part?
@Savage What did he do wrong? He may be onto something.
If you don't know then why lie?
@Sirspidey It doesn’t matter. It was still base Superman. Base Superman can use his power source. They were standing on a different planet too. If that doesn’t count because of him flying through the sun, then Thor making Galactus flee shouldn’t count because he was drawing extra power from Odin.
He stopped his punches with literally 1 finger and then sent him to the ground. This is why context is important.
Superman needs yellow suns to get amped. Thor can summon the god blast whenever he needs.
Darth Vader > Hulk
Yoda > Thanos and Hulk together
a Green Arrow Mockingbird Rivalry, what about that
5. The Teen Titans
4. The Avengers
3. The Justice League
2. The X-Men
1. The Fantastic Four
1. The 60's are considered a huge renaissance for superhero comics
2. This is because dialog improved, characters developed better, and comics suddenly became realistic depictions of humanity
3. The #1 pioneer of all those things and all the other things I've been talking about was the FF
Which of those points do you disagree with? The FF were #1 when comics were #1. You're right about the X-Men pretty much copying Doom Patrol. I see it in a similar light as Swamp Thing being a complete copy of Man-Thing though. Swamp-Thing might technically be kind of a rip-off, but he's also one of the greatest comic characters of all time, easily better than Man-Thing. The X-Men are still legendary. I don't think anything about the doom patrol takes away from that. You make a great point about the Justice League, and I think they're an amazing team for that reason, but they're still better as individual characters. At many times they seem akwardly forced together, operating more as clunky coworkers than anything else. Teams like the FF and the X-Men are characters literally designed to work well together, and that just makes for a better dynamic. The FF is a family, the JL is overall much less close. What's your point with the "they don't assemble, they unite" phrase? As for villains, it really depends how you measure it. They certainly have more well developed and iconic villains, but like with the Doom/Joker thing, the FF was essential to making some of the greatest villains of all time. Even characters like the Mole Man who are often laughed at were breakthrough characters. The Mole Man was a villain you felt bad for, characters like him changed how everyone saw villains. The FF comic changed villains immensely, making comic villains everywhere into characters as complicated as the heroes with the FF's influence. This was at a time where every JL villain was a dollar store criminal with one gig. Even characters who later became legends, like the Joker. These villains would later become amazing characters, only because of the FF's incredible influence. I could go back right now and reread the first JL comics from the early 60's at the same time as the FF ones, and the comparison in dialog and character development would be practically embarrassing. The FF was wayyy ahead of it's time. It's easily the more influential team. The only argument for the JL being better would have to be from decades later, when the JL and their villains were far better (due to FF influence). You say it's DC paving the way for Marvel, but the only argument you've made to that point is that DC is older. That doesn't mean they actually did things first. It seems to me like it's the other way around, especially in the 60's. Marvel was way ahead of DC, paving the way for them. I've given countless examples why, and I can relist them if you disagree with some of them. Your turn to name ways the JL paved the way.
I can definitely say that yes, the JL had influenced the avengers more than the F4, but the point I’m making is that without Martin Goodman realizing the profitability of superhero teams by seeing how well the public reacted to the Justice League, the F4 wouldn’t have been created by Stan Lee. Now we can argue until the end of time about who influenced characters and stories and blah blah blah but what I know for certain is who inspired who to be created. I also can say that I’m not really in agreement about them being better individually. The dynamic between Superman and Batman and also Barry and Hal are very complex and interesting to see. Even the relationship between WW and Aquaman. I mean hell, the heart and soul of the team is a Martian whose the last of his kind. The diversity of the team allows for so much depth in their relationships. I think seeing all of the JL coming together is a sight to behold. They may not be as emotionally layered as the F4 in your opinion, but I think that their larger than life and almost mythical quality to them is what makes them so great, along with their struggles and diversity of course. The biggest difference between DC and Marvel characters on the whole is that DC’s heroes generally are more mythological and larger than life. They’re inspirational figures. Marvel has always taken the more human and down to earth approach, which resonates with some people in a different way and I respect and understand that. For inspiration, think of it like this. A lot of teams have followed this formula the JL established. You have the leader and brains of the operation (Batman, Mr Fantastic, Iron Man) the figurehead and muscle (Superman, Cap, The thing) the hothead of the group who likes to joke around (Flash, Thor, Johnny Blaze) a more quiet but emotionally deep and powerful member (Martian Manhunter, Invisible woman). Stuff like that. For me I just think the JL are the best team because their characters have so much depth and overcome so much tragedy and are from so many different walks of life. I actually really like the F4, probably more than the X-Men or Avengers. I just personally find the team of such diverse beings in the league to be a better team than a group of humans.
@Mr Incognito yeah I really like both characters but at the end of the day Spider-Man is my favorite
There was a time when Daredevil was just as famous as the Avengers. I kind of miss those days.
DC have 52 univerees/multiverses
So that means Pre Retcon Beyonder solo all fiction cause he is more powerful than millions of multiverse combine.
I'm pretty sure there's nothing close to millions, including all fictional universe in entire world.
Also multiverse is the lowest floor in dc (im sure you dont know but nvm)
They said they have infinite universe lol marvel also said so many times they have infinite universes...
It's not about what they said it's about what revealed.
And tell me where DC revealed infinite universes ? XD
Infinite is just a concept of that can't be count, it doesn't really matter.
You can't count mean you need to give time for it to count.
Opinions can be anything
Do i need to tell you something like that ?
I know the concept of David Hilbert's 'The Grand Hotel'
That was 'thought excrement'
Infinity start with the things that we don't know, infinite is not concept of countless/uncountable it is concept of endless/unlimited
I know some mathematics shows the concept of Infinity by their thoughts experiment
But I'm going with physics where infinity doesn't exist, if there's infinite in your calculations that means your calculations is wrong or you made mistakes so every physicist afraid of 'infinite'
And real world's universe is omniverse i mean everything exist inside universe, everything is universe even void, and if you talking about real world's universe then there's a so many different opinion, different theories, believe, concepts
And not all people follow same.
What i believe is universe made by big bang (actually it was not a bang) before universe, there was nothing not even the void, there's whole different topic for nothingness...in 1915 a certain physicist made a connection between something and what appears to be nothing. In that year Albert Einstein published his general theory of relativity. According to this theory, the vacuum has a structure. Clocks placed in various locations in the vacuum run at different speeds, depending on their nearness to matter, and a rod suspended in space will appear to be of different lengths depending on where it and its observer are. According to Einstein, this structure, called space-time, is responsible for the phenomenon of gravity.
Gravity, then, is not a force pulling through nothingness, but an effect of the structure of that apparent nothingness. The vacuum, the apparent nothingness, by virtue of its structure is a field of energy. (By means of its structure, it bends the paths of light and other things that pass through it and therefore does work.) Einstein had already shown in the special theory of relativity that E=mc2, so the field of energy had to be a field of matter.
While general relativity was demonstrating that what might seem to be nothing is not nothing, a new branch of physics, quantum physics, which Einstein had helped found, was introducing other interesting ideas that turned out to bear on the relationship between nothing and something. Quantum physics studies quanta, the smallest particles that make up matter. In its early days, this form of physics made a truly disturbing discovery, which has since been confirmed time and time again. Particles are particles, but then they are not; they are waves. A particle is a particle only if you want it to be, if you insist on pinning it down. Otherwise, it is a wave. The whole point is the universe came from nothingness and it is still expanding, so it is not infinite.
And as i said before its not about what they said in their comic pages it's about what they revealed, if someone haven't shows you anything but they keep saying they have it then still you gonna believe it ? Not me.
And nobody can revealed infinite universes, and yes it is impossible, so many mathematics prove infinite only in theory thought experiment...but so many scientists also disagree and so many scientists agreed...
And multiverse in fiction is concept of parallel universe that means different timeliness based on different choices or circumstances...and possibilities
So it can be infinite because there's infinite possibilities, actually its not infinite it is just countless so see I'm not going against any theory of mathematics, neither i said concept of infinite is impossible.
Infinite end where it's started, so round.
If you know how human brains work then, you know you like to believe that our brain is so smarter than we think but it's not true.
Again, concepts of infinite shows that how small is our brain, how small our imagination/ thoughts
Even if you are the smartest guy in the universe and if you know everything about universe then concept of infinite shows that how much you don't know than you know, it also shows your knowledge is nothing.
Concept of infinite is beyond our imagination most people can't even understand it.
Sometimes writers uses words "infinite" just because it's sounds cool
Comic writers are not scientists, they writes whatever in their minds, they don't even uses clear logic because they can't and if comic is full of logic then it's not fun, it's gonna look like real world. But that doesn't mean they don't uses logic they uses basic logic like you can't be intangibles without superpowers or something like that.
Parallel universes can be uncountable but not infinite, fictional universe/ multiverse concept is little bit different, it's like there's multiverse inside universe... don't get it ? Marvel is a fictional universe... at least it is called as universe yes marvel universe DC universe, dark horse universe, dragon ball universe etc but DC universe have multiverses inside their universe and universe inside multiverse, maybe it's sounds confusing but it is logical, again don't forget multiverse in fiction is concept of parallel universe that mean your other versions exist in others universes, i don't think i need to explain parallel universe,
And there's main universe like earth prime, earth 616 etc rest are alternate universe/part of parallel universe and combination of all universes are multiverse, entire multiverse is a universe(like marvel,dc, image)
And i think beyonder's multiverse means what i explained. That means marvel is one multiverse...
marvel, DC, dark horse, image= 4 multiverse and so on so on
Combination of multiverse become omniverse (all fiction)
There can be millions, billions multiverse but not now.
4. Griever at The End of All Things
5. Molecule Man/Beyonders
4. HOI NYX
and I'm not talking about regular oblivion, I'm talking about true form of oblivion... who talked with readers directly and threatened
Batman is overrated and him having a no kill rule doesn't make sense. DC always tries to tell you he's not a good person inside, but there's no evidence of that. He has more Kantian morals than goddamn superman. It would be better if batman did kill, making him the dark superhero that DC pretends he is. Also, plenty of people have their parents die when they're young. This doesn't make them dress up as a bat and beat up strangers. His motives get consistently dated and it get's harder and harder not to read a batman comic and think "If these guys beating up clowns because he can't get over his parents dying when he was a kid he needs some serious mental help"
1. Martian Manhunter is more videos, more content
2. more People Know Martian Manhunter
3. Alchemy is really obscured
In the end, after everyone dies besides for Hulk.
Just a side point though, how is this an unpopular opinion? Also f the ungrateful people of the Marvel Universe.
But it's sad because most people don't even know who he is smh...
Edit: I think for a post here the more downvotes you get the more accurate it is.
Also that ranking by @Taurus was spot on. I haven't heard anything to debunk that.
@Dhruv That's true mainly for movies; in the comics Hulk barely lags behind the average of those.
@Taurus Thor tends to have the lead more often over Superman. And apart from this site, most people don't say WW beats Hulk.
Hulk will always get stronger so he beats everyone. Thor vs Superman is very close but magic and mjolnir edge him the win. WW has always been slightly less than Superman. Hulk>Thor>Superman>WW.
much better than avengers hulk
Coco is one of the worst Movies I've ever seen in my life
Inside out is one of the worst Movies I've ever seen in my life
Sing is one of the worst Movies I've ever seen in my life
Coco is the same CLiche we seen many times, you got our character who likes a topic that everyone else does not, the thing he loves gets destroyed, he runs away and gets into a problem
Inside out , i have no words
Big Hero 6 > Inside Out >= Zootopia > Average Movie >>> Emoji Movie = Sing = Coco
Hadou gods solo Marvel
Death note sucks after episode 25
Shounen animes are extremely overrated
FMAB isnt really better than fma 2003
Final Fantasy 7 isn't the best final fantasy game
Bloodborne is the best soulsborne game
İsekais other than re zero is absolute trash
fate heavens feel trilogy>fate zero
2. I think FMAB is better than fma
3. Yes, some shounen animes are overrated.
those characters will slap
2. Sakura is useless.
3. Naruto wasn't an underdog he was a chosen one from beginning.
4. Rock Lee and Might guy are true shinobi who achieved everything via hard work.
5. Pain is the best character in entire series.
6. Naruto shippuden sucked after pain's arc.
7. Akatsuki should've lasted Longer and Akatsuki is best villains group in fiction.
8. Naruto vs pain's fight was mess because of bad animation but it's perfect in manga.
This may be the single most popular and accepted opinion ever
Season 4 of Arrow was Not Bad
A. There's Doc Ock with tentacles that are far too strong for Peter to break, each one of them is nearly as fast as Peter is, there are 4 of them, and they are sentient, too. His arrogance and humanity are do him in, but they aren't easy to exploit for Spider-man(with those tentacles in the way). He might be easy for someone like Punisher(machine gun), Hulk(too strong for the tentacles), or Storm(weather or range), but not easy for Spidey at all.
B. The Green Goblin's tech(spinning, cutting things in the movie--whew) and bombs/superstrength/intelligence/insanity/willingness to do anything to cause Spider-man pain/suffering are incredible as far as facing Parker. And, he knows his secret identity. This has always put those he loves at serious risk as well as himself!
C.The symbiotes: Without supersonics or fire* or help, Spidey can't compete. *Just like kryptonite and magic for Superman. But, Peter never has those things readily available...Carnage was a genius invention by Marvel and they gave him blades, shields, and tendrils(stronger than Venom's webbing). And, he's an insane, wisecracking serial killer that is enraged by being funnier than him at a given moment(which is Spider-man can do). Then, Spider-Carnage takes Cassidy to the next logical step: a burning desire to kill everyone! Plus, they don't trigger his spidersense. THEY CAN BE VERY TOUGH FOR SPIDEY!
D. Sandman and Hydroman are more foes that Spider-man has few ways to defeat.
E. Electro might be dumb, but electricity is a great power to have and Peter is not exactly Hydro-man.
F. Other flying foes like Vulture/Hobgoblin: since Spider-man can't fly.
G. The Shocker has certainly been downgraded over the years, but he was more formidable at one time. His shield power/blast has mimicked Jean Grey's telekinesis.
H. The Spot could defeat lots of foes in any comic universes--without comic license. To be honest, I can see a way he beats Spider-man or Daredevil, too. Just surround them or box them in--shutting off movement. Then, enlarge them.
H. The Kingpin can hire any aspiring villain without a thirst for leadership.
I. Rhino has probably averaged out to be 2.5 to 5 times as strong(and he's at his strongest now).
J. There are other less common ones, too, like Pity, Poison, Black Tarantula, Stegron, etc. that are likely more devastating.
He is missing an Icy foe and a Speedster: I think. But, wouldn't it be cliche to have every kind of foe you can think of?
BUT, WHY ALL THE HATE? I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM EXCEPT MAYBE THAT THEY ARE INNOVATIVE REHASHES OF OTHER DC ONES. DC CAME FIRST, SO IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR(IF I WAS AN ASPIRING COMIC ENTREPRENEUR, THEN I'D BE INSPIRED BY WHAT'S HERE). PLUS, THEY ARE LARGELY DIFFERENT. BUT, I DEFER TO YOUR OPINION, THOUGH. I REITERATE THAT I AM NOT GOING AGAINST YOU OPINION--JUST WONDERING...
I'm sorry, but we're not supposed to discuss politics or religion on this site.
I do plan to watch it again. I might have been in the wrong mindset or mood.
UFO's are real. Again, many believe that aliens have visited Earth, but many refuse to accept such.
Moon Knight, Cheetah, Suicide Squad and Batman are underrated
Bendis' Daredevil > Miller's Daredevil - Year One > The Dark Knight Returns
Aqua: hold my purification
So, to make a long story short, Marvel and DC may have copied each other in the past but without each other's ideas they wouldn't have had some of the most popular superheroes people love to this day.
DC - Hal Jordan is easily comparable to Barry Allen in speed.
Star Wars - The top tiers (Vitiate, Yoda, Anakin, Caedus, Vader, Sidious, Sarasu, Luke, etc.) are easily multiversal.
Dragon Ball - I dislike Goku, Gohan would be a much better main character.
Naruto - Sakura is the best member of Team 7, excluding Kakashi-sensei.
Eh, most people I've seen believe Strange is more powerful than Odin.
What is something you like or believe in which you know your in the MINORITY or is HATED.
1. I think Wanda is underrated
2. Mantis is very underrated
3. I think Infinity War is better than Endgame
4. White Phoenix (Jean) has the potential to become hyperversal or even omniversal
May the speed force be with you⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
On that note, the Black Racer is someone who can beat Flash
Barry has also ran himself to the dream universe which is stated to be outside of the DC multiverse which means that even if black racer could access that universe he wouldn't be death in that universe.
Also, Kylo Ren is cool
Wonder Woman isn't Bulletproof.
Marvel: Jason Aaron's Jane Thor run was great. Thor has good reactions
DC: the New 52 was great
Star Wars: Rey being a "MOSTLY" valid character (not a Mary Sue). Luke being Vader's equal if not superior.
Sentry is easily one of if not the most powerful hero in the MU but he's held back by his own schizophrenia.
Both have a dog Both have solar based powers
Both are known as one of if not the most powerful hero in their universe
Both were reporters Both had reporter girlfriends and later wives
Both had a “fortress of solitude” The Sentry's is “The Watchtower”
Both had a villain who was super intelligent and named after the brain. Superman vs Brainiac and The Sentry vs Cranio. Both have died but not really Both have had a female take on part of their name. Sentress vs Supergirl.
Both have met their other earth version who had been around years earlier. 30 years earlier
The thing is their personalities and powers aren't all that similar.
Superman is very well loved both in and out of universe where as Sentry isn't.