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Tier System?

Created by remy94, 7 mo 15 d ago.

This is where you can ask questions about SHDB's tier levels. Make requests for character tier changes, (with evidence of course.)

Tiers
0 Human
1 Athlete / Peak Human / Superhuman / Building
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Planetary / Star
5 Solar Systemic / Galactic
6 Multi-Galactic / Universal
7 Multi-Universal / Multiversal
8 Complex Multiversal / Hyperversal
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal

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RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Lost braincells while reading this
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 2 d
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Were you trolling with this?
Hulk at mountain level? Superman/Thor/Dr Strange at city level? WBH at planet level?
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 mo 2 d
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There is soo much wrong with this.
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Jonas
Jonas 1 mo 2 d
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Tier 8 - omniversal
tier 9 - hyperversal

what?
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 mo 2 d
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Literally everyone you mentioned with the exception of Batman, Spider-Man, and Deadpool are Tier 7 or higher.
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Jonas
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the best version of spiderman i know is the beyonder spiderman he just remade all creation in a moment. therefore making it a tier 10.

Jonas
Jonas 1 mo 2 d
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tier 10 is omniversal ''not outerversal''
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 1 mo 2 d
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^^That's a non-standard version of Spider-Man, not normal Spider-Man.
Mandos9452
Mandos9452 2 mo 13 h 46 m
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I feel like Omniversal tier was not nessesary. its to subjective. Theres some that describe as every verse in fiction(Which is blastomas) or just a set of megaverses/Multiverses within the verse.
MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 2 mo 10 d
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0 Human
Tier 1
1.0 Athlete/Superhuman/Street
1.1 peak Human/Wall/Small Building
1.2 Large Building/City Block
1.3 Town/City Level
Tier 2
2.0 Mountain level
2.1 Island
2.2 Large Island
2.3 Small Country
Tier 3
3.0 Country
3.1 Large Country
3.2 Continent
3.3 Multi-Continent
Tier 4
4.0 Moon Level
4.1 Small Planet/ like mercury
4.2 Planetary/like earth and mars
4.3 Large Planet/like Jupiter and Venus
Tier 5
5.0 Small Star/Dwarf Star
5.1 Star/Sun
5.2 Large Star/ like Proxima Centauri
5.3 Solar System
Tier 6
6.0 Galaxy
6.1 Multi-Galaxy
6.2 Universal
6.3 High Universal
Tier 7
7.1 Low Multiversal
7.2 Multiversal
7.3 High Multiversal
Tier 8
8.1 Low Complex Multiverse
8.2 Complex Multiverse
8.3 High Complex Multiverse
8.4 Hyperversal
8.5 High Hyperversal
Tier 9
9.1 Low Outerversal
9.2 Outerversal
9.3 High-Outerversal
Tier 10
Omniversal
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Galactus
Galactus 2 mo 10 d
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The decimal system made sense I see... :)
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 2 mo 10 d
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Hyperversal level comes after complex multiversal.
Danyel
Danyel 1 mo 2 d
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high-outerverse level > omniversal level.
vcowles77
vcowles77 6 mo 18 d
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Omniversal shouldn’t be removed and kept because tier 0 means boundless and boundless refers to omniversal feats. Just my opinion
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Doomsday
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well, what about Characters that are high 1-A/ outerversal tier? They outperform characters that are only baseline 1-A / Outerversal tier.
vcowles77
vcowles77 6 mo 17 d
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Outerversal is outerversal high mid low whatsoever that is the way it is going to work tier 9 is outerversal if you are tier 10 boundless then you are omniversal.
Danyel
Danyel 6 mo 17 d
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Characters like Lucifer who are near omnipotent at Tier 10/Omniversal. but in the various wiki sources of Fandom. his Tier: 1-A. according to wiki fandom's tiering system. that's because he didn't perform an omniversal feat level, nor an Outerversal.
vcowles77
vcowles77 6 mo 17 d
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No your right. I am just saying in general 1A is classified as outerversal whereas Tier 0 is classified as omniversal (boundless). Whereas 2A to 1-B is all tier 8 complex multiversal to hyperversal.
Danyel
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from my point of view, characters demonstrating an omniverse feat still doesn't make them boundless.

the omniversal is the ability to destroy infinite megaverses or things beyond endless levels of infinity. then we have

omniversal +, this power refers to characters/or beings that are capable of not only creating and/or destroying an omniverse, but also structures and planes of reality beyond it. and finally we have

absolute infinity (Ω): can be viewed roughly as a notion that transcends and encompasses all infinities. In Georg Cantor's transfinite set theory, not only are there are sets of infinite size (like the set of natural numbers) but there are sets (like the set of real numbers) whose infinite size is larger. Moreover, by Cantor's theorem, one can generate an infinite sequence of infinite sets whose infinite sizes are larger and larger infinities.

it should also be noted that the idea of infinity, in Cantor's set theory, the theorem that the cardinality (numerical size) of a set is strictly less than the cardinality of its power set, or collection of subsets. In symbols, a finite set S with n elements contains 2n subsets, so that the cardinality of the set S is n and its power set P(S) is 2n.
Galactus
Galactus 6 mo 18 d
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What if we split them up with decimals;
1.0 Human
1.1 Athlete
1.2 Peak Human
1.3 Superhuman
...
2.0 Island
2.1 Large Island
2.2 Mountain
...
etc.

Or maybe just have one 'half' Tier between each Tier; 1.0 - 1.5 - 2.0 - 2.5 ...etc.
This way the current system isn't necessarily wrong and we can slowly specify the (sub) Tier a character is on.

OR

Can we automatically set a Tier based on Stats and Powers?
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Ezio
Ezio 6 mo 18 d
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that half Tier between each Tier could be a good start for update.
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 18 d
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I wouldn't risk it with that change. If that happens we would have to relook almost every profile which would take a while and I'm afraid this will result in another stat loss. Exact 10 tiers are good enough, It's just the renaming and being specific that needs to change.
Ezio
Ezio 6 mo 18 d
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@Tigerking2020 How can we be more specific without splitting tiers?
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 18 d
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I already Posted my idea, Here it is again:
1 Athlete / Peak Human / Superhuman / Building
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Small Planet/Large Planet/Dwarf Star/Small Star/Large Star
5 Solar System/Multi-Solar System/Galaxy/Multi-Galaxy
6 Low Universal/High Universal/Universal+
7 Multi-Universal/Low Multiversal/Multiversal/Multiversal+
8 Low Complex Multiversal/Complex Multiversal/High Complex Multiversal/Low Hyperversal/Hyperversal/High Hyperversal.
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal
Galactus
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Wouldn't it be more clear to only name the 'starting point' of a Tier?
1. Athlete+
2. Island+
3. Country+
4. Planet+
...
Naming all different 'levels' within that Tier makes it confusing. Like a Small Planet AND a Large Star... that billions in difference.
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 18 d
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1 Athlete / Peak Human / Superhuman / Building
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Small Planet/Large Planet/Dwarf Star/Small Star/Large Star
5 Solar System/Multi-Solar System/Galaxy/Multi-Galaxy
6 Universal
7 Multi-Universal/Multiversal
8 Complex Multiversal/Hyperversal
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal
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ubslucky
ubslucky 6 mo 18 d
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Having more precise tiers in the lower tiers would be a great achievement, it would be possible to really be more accurate for once.
However, I still recommend to change Tier Omniverse back to outerversal. The reason I think Omniversal isn't a good term is, that it simply lacks definition, or is defined differently in various works of fiction. Just one example: if one actually takes Marvels definition into consideration which includes our real world it should be obvious that is impossible for any character to accomplish this.
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Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 18 d
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Idea for Tier System, thinking about renaming and being more specific with the terms. I also think 10 tiers are enough:
1 Athlete / Peak Human / Superhuman / Building
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Planet/Star
5 Solar System/Multi-Solar System/Galaxy/Multi-Galaxy
6 Low Universal/High Universal/Universal+
7 Multi-Universal/Low Multiversal/Multiversal/Multiversal+
8 Low Complex Multiversal/Complex Multiversal/High Complex Multiversal/Low Hyperversal/Hyperversal/High Hyperversal.
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal
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Galactus
Galactus 6 mo 18 d
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4 is just Planet or Star, right? Why specify 'all' sizes?
Tigerking2020
Tigerking2020 6 mo 18 d
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I mean just in case. But I'll be also fine with only using Planet and Star.
xrpl320
xrpl320 6 mo 20 d
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I still think between 1 and 2 there should be an additional Tier.
Town / City Level.
Currently, the difference between 1 (Building) and 2 (Mountain) is so big.
Lots of characters have feats which fit right "in the middle between" these two.
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Mandos9452
Mandos9452 6 mo 20 d
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Agree, in return of doing this get rid of The Omniversal tier
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Doomsday
Doomsday 7 mo 14 d
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characters that are almost omnipotent from tier 10, does that make a high Outerversal?
remy94
remy94 7 mo 15 d
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I would like all the tiers to be better defined.
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Jakcj
Jakcj 7 mo 15 d
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Very great idea @Remy94
This will fix some of the stats for the characters that are busted
remy94
remy94 7 mo 14 d
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Thanks
Galactus
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Do you have some ideas on how it would be better?
remy94
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@Galactus I don't know what the guide lines are? For example What do characters have to do to be considered universal or multiversal, how do you determine this? If I understand more I can make some suggestions.
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vcowles77
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The only confusion I guess is when Low 2-C is classified as universal+ or multiversal could go either way.