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Created by MrJaeger07, 11 mo 19 d ago.

Well this forum is because Galactus and me would like to know the opinion of y'all about adding a new tier (Tier 10) for characters mostly high Outerversals but without being completely boundless/omnipotents.
This would serve to separate the level of some characters like Cosmic Armor Superman who is tier 9, from characters like The Presence or Nyx (House of Ideas) who are also tier 9 but whoses level are actually way higher than CAS's, so putting this Tier 10 to the latters would be the most accurate here, as it would be with many other characters who share the same tier 9 but between which there's a lot of power difference.

PS: From what y'all think in this forum it will be decided whether this item should be added to the site or not.

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Ezio
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Sticky Now we have tier 10, make a list for it
Joshn4
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To be honest, tiers and ratings could be removed all together. AFAIK, this site doesn't even have a tiering system that all members mutually agree on. IMO, create a method of tiering first, or choose an existing one, then discuss this. But IMO, there should be a range for each character depending on their lowest end interpretations vs the highest end interpretations of the character
R165
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@Ezio and @Galactus I'm going to list the characters that have to get to tier 10:

DC characters:
1.) The Presence (He is god in the DC verse)
2.) Elaine Belloc (Has the power of The Presence)
3.) Specter Oversoul (Gains the power of The Presence and merges with Overvoid)
4.) Overvoid (Embodiment of all DC verses)
5.) Great Evil Beast (The Presence's dark partner)

Marvel Characters:
1.) The One Above All (The author says that he is the same as the House of Ideas which is the embodiment of the Marvel company)
2.) Nyx (House of Ideas)
3.) Vision (House of Ideas)
4.) The One Below All (TOAA's dark partners)
5.) Fulcrum
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ubslucky
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I will be honest. Imo Tiers could be removed all together...they tend to cause pointless (almost religious) debates...
NiTrOMAMBA
NiTrOMAMBA 7 mo 17 d
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A tier 10 should be like immortal.
I dunno haha
SMPLegendary
SMPLegendary 7 mo 17 d
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Omnipotents should be tier 10. Eru, TOAA, maybe Presence, Writer, Azathoth, SCP-3812, The emperor beyond the sea, yog-soloth etc.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 7 mo 17 d
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Now that it's been added, I would say the absolute top tiers in fiction keep "omnipotence" while some of the rest are downgraded to "omniversal" (boundless would probably be a better name if we're sticking with VSBW's terminology @Galactus).
Galactus
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I've added Tier 10.
Have fun.
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Pedrof
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I like it!
UnusOf2029
UnusOf2029 7 mo 17 d
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You used my name idea! *Happy Noises*
UnusOf2029
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Yeah @MrJaeger07 That seems fair. It could be called Omniversal (y'know cuz that's the whole existence of everything & you can't [at least from what we know] go higher)
vcowles77
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Tier 10 would pretty much be The-One-Above-All, The Presence, Featherine Augustus, Aurora, The Divine Creator, and the Leviathan of Stories.
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Taurus
Taurus 11 mo 16 d
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A whole new tier just for 5 damn characters???
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 11 mo 15 d
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Not only those, there's many more characters that would qualify to be Tier 10, also I think TOAA, Featherine and Leviathan should remain as infinites.
Taurus
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If so, then CIH should be low tier 10
MrJaeger07
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That would be arguable if Tier 10 would be added for sure, but we don't know if @Galactus will eventually do it or not.
Oblivion
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I am back with facts, as usual.
LİSTEN KİDS, i have some opinions (facts) that will make this corrupted place a better place. REMOVE THE FUCKİNG TİERS AS WHOLE,we shdb,ranks charecters infinitely beyond mathematics with goddamn numbers,idk who came up with this shitty tiering sytem but he or she should be banned immediatly,tiering in this site shouldn't be a thing, we clearly lack experts and proper arguements while tiering charecters,even if we are going to give tiers when a charecter is added WE SHOULD DİSCUSS ABOUT İTS TİER RATHER THAN GİVİNG İT İN THE HANDS OF A STUPİD WANKER,and like i said we should remove numerical hogwash ASAP.
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Michealdem17
Michealdem17 11 mo 16 d
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True
Tyrannus
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Stop calling people kids. Your whole answer sounded like it came from one. And stay respectful
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 11 mo 15 d
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There's no need to insult or use that type of language, you could perfectly express your opinion in a much more respectful way, on the other hand, removing the entire tiering system that we currently have is somewhat hasty, I don't think the argument that we rank characters beyond mathematics (which is obvious) is a solid point since clearly, people do that in many other sites, also I don't think you should take fictional things that seriously, however, I respect your opinion, which may not seem so crazy in the the end of the day.
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Taurus
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@MrJaeger Agreed for the most part.
Taurus
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@MrJaeger Where would RKT be? What about CIH?
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 11 mo 16 d
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RKT would remain in Tier 9, so would CIH, the characters that in my mind would have the Tier 10 are those beings like: Lucifer Morningstar, Elaine Belloc, The Presence, maybe Oblivion (True Form), TOBA, House of Ideas characters, etc...)
Taurus
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Then I am against this idea. CIH is above some of those aforementioned that "belong" in Tier 10, and even if you disagree they are less superior to CIH than CIH is to RKT. Its a no from me.
MrJaeger07
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Well that's the point from this forum, knowing different opinions and if you think CIH is on Lucifer or House of Ideas level (which is absolutely not) that's okay, but we're not creating like 2 or 3 tiers to separate each character, also the only thing you get from all those Outer characters is CIH should priorly be in above tier than RKT? don't see that finally Presence or Lucifer will be in a higher tier than him? smh.
Taurus
Taurus 11 mo 16 d
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No, I changed my mind, its fine how it is. We don't need more tiers, nine is enough.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 11 mo 16 d
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I think it would be key to separate characters like Darkseid (great darkness) from characters like Elaine Belloc, normally the Outerversal scale is the most encompassing and complex level in fiction, so differences between a baseline Outer and high Outer character would be way more than between a baseline Multi and high Multi character for example.
Taurus
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Why? Who cares what tier a character is? It doesn't really matter that much if you think about it.
MrJaeger07
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Being as accurate as possible is not too much, also sadly there are many people who rely on the power number of the characters to vote for the higher, imagine that they think that RKT and Lucifer are on the same level because they both have 255B lol, that's the true point.
MrJaeger07
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There are several Outerversal characters between who there's a lot of difference in power, those characters should be separated by the Tier 10.
Taurus
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I don't care about votes really anymore regardless; unless they are someone I know it just shows that more people are ignorant on that point/desperate to prove their character with bots
Taurus
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in regards to your second comment, yup, if its done then CIH should be low tier 10
MrJaeger07
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Why do you focus sm on only CIH being ''insanely'' superior to RKT? in any case it's CIH >> RKT, although if you think CIH is the 2nd most powerful character from Marvel that'd explain why you think he beats RKT in a blink and no, CIH best showing was destroying the entire 9th cosmos, RKT is just above a lower cosmos (8th), they're not that far from each other.
Taurus
Taurus 11 mo 16 d
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Prove that TOBA is above CIH, who is Hulk + TOBA, and merged characters are almost always more powerful.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 11 mo 15 d
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Neither TOBA nor CIH are the 2nd most powerful beings from Marvel if that's your point, plus I don't think CIH is just Hulk + TOBA, but rather Hulk with TOBA's powers, it's not TOBA in his purest essence, beside TOBA is a lot to IH's body since as you saw, CIH ended up breaking itself.
Taurus
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Why would TOBA posses Hulk then? As the Beyonder acknowledged, Hulk's potential for power is infinite. You couldn't be more wrong.
MrJaeger07
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TOBA possessed the Hulk to destroy the Multiverse and it took billions of years to do so, Beyonder acknowledged that the Hulk had infinite strength, which isn't the same as power.
Taurus
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Taurus
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@MrJaeger ^
MrJaeger07
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If the Hulk had infinite power, he would be invincible and at the TOAA level, that statement is a kinda outlier.
Taurus
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I'm sorry my brother but there's no way in hell I am going to except that; you clearly didn't say this until you realized that you were wrong.
Taurus
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@MrJaeger ^^^
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 11 mo 17 d
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@Galactus What is your conclusion so far about what people think?
Michealdem17
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Tbh, I'd say entire tiering system need an update cause there's a very big difference between Hyperversal and complex multiversal, solar system and galaxy level, universal+ and high multiversal. And it's too unfair to put them on same tier.
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MrJaeger07
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It would be the most logical although it's not that serious, since it's not my plan to make SHDb seem have a tiering system ''copied'' from vs battles wiki, I want this website to have its own scales and power levels.
Michealdem17
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That's good thing but wouldn't it be Funny scaling of if you put finite dimensional characters and Infinite dimensional on same tier. So, change is required if you want to make shdb better.
MrJaeger07
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That from a point of view makes sense.
ManofPower
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Sounds like a good idea.
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MrJaeger07
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Yeah thx for agreeing, there's a lot of Outerversal characters between which there's a lot of power difference, so only one tier shouldn't encompass all that scale.
ManofPower
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Tbf we'd need like three or four different tiers, Baseline Outerversal, Outerversal, High Outerversal and Outerversal+
Oblivion
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İmagine creating a tier just bc CAS stomps your favorite charecters via flexing 🤡🤡🤡🤡
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AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 11 mo 17 d
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Why are you so aggressive?
ManofPower
ManofPower 11 mo 17 d
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He's reflecting upon himself 😂
MrJaeger07
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@Oblivion You should stop taking everything someone say in the wrong way and calm down a bit. In first place, I only took CAS as an example to compare him with other beings that are much more powerful than him and thus explain in a better way how the Tier 10 would work. And secondly, I took the most random characters possible as a reference precisely to avoid this kind of situation, I didn't even use characters I normally support like RKT (if that's what you meant) although apparently, that didn't help much, since there's always someone who throws toxicity no matter even how neutral I try to do the things, isn't it?
MrJaeger07
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Some more thoughts?
Pedrof
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I think that tier 9 should be Omniversal and 10 Outerversal+.
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MrJaeger07
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Yeah that's kinda what I mean.
ManofPower
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Omniversal>Outerversal. Tbh no character can be omniversal as it just defies everything. No matter how infinite your power, how many transcendence etc you simply cannot destroy everything. Well, you can destroy everything. But then what about the empty void that it leaves? You maybe can destroy that as well, but what about what's left after that? Things are extremely impossible to be honest. The only way a character can be "Omniversal" is if you believe in The Outside, which is the void that circles the Omniverse.
Pedrof
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Characters like The One-Above-All, The Chosen One, Azathoth etc. they can be omniversal level, they can destroy as many omniverses as they want and bring them back whenever they want.
ManofPower
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Don't get it miscontrued. What those characters can destroy are extreme high planes of existences or countless unquantibly infinite dimensions. These beings do not destroy Omniverses, "The Omniverse is the collection of every single universe, multiverse, megaverse, dimension (alternate or pocket) and realm."
Which would include the entirety of fiction, non-fiction, dreams, reality, thoughts, the real world etc etc etc etc. And these characters have no way to affect the real world. Also... The Chosen One... being Omniversal? Is just ew...
Pedrof
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Okay, I thought that Omniverse was everything that is inside a franchise, so no being can destroy the omniverse. And The Chosen One is Anakin with the entire power of the force, that is omnipotence.
ManofPower
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A megaverse would be the closest thing that resembles "everything in a single franchise", and I need proof that the force is omnipotent... because I don't believe that at all, plus there are tiers to "omnipotence"
AkhilPDX
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The Chosen One isn't even close to tier 9.
Pedrof
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In the movies, comics, series, games etc. all of the jedi, sith etc. say the force is everything, when I say every thing I really mean everything, the force is with everyone that leves, has lived and will live is in all things and all timelines and has knowledge about everything, not to mention that the Bedlam Spirits were declared omnipotent, but they are not because there can only be one omnipotent being and The Chosen One is above these. The Chosen has a feat, this one is defeating the Light Side and the Dark Side Of The Force together. Just to get a sense:
Dak Side (Bendu)> All Siths that have ever existed will exist and exist.
Light Side (Ashla)> all the Jedi that have ever existed, will exist and exist. These two sides individually are each nigh-omnipotent and have complete control over almost everything.
ManofPower
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Being declared omnipotent is not proof you're omnipotent, at most it means you're immensely powerful. What you said doesn't really prove anything except these guys are unquantibly powerful.
Pedrof
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Yes I know, they're not omnipotent but they are nigh-omnipotent
AkhilPDX
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So universal... multiversal+ at best.
ManofPower
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Nigh Omnipotence is very vague... That isn't a tier, Nigh Omnipotence can simply mean you're galactic level, all the way to being outerversal. It's too vague a term.
ThorMathews
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I think it makes sense
MrJaeger07
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Fun fact: Those who'd be Tier 10 and at the same time have nigh-omnipotence (which practically every Tier 10 will) would have a power number of 510B (twice 255B they have with tier 9)
MS643262
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I feel tier 9 would be enough, tier 10 would be Boundless, which belongs to characters that are omnipotent.
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MrJaeger07
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Actually, if Tier 10 is added it will only be for characters that scale to high Outerversal level and separate them from the others that are tier 9 baseline Outers or normal Outers, it wouldn't be the same as boundless as I explained in the description.
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