The state of Star Wars

Created by Tyrannus, 1 mo 6 d ago.

Opinions on how you Star Wars recently with the new movies and how they were before

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cw6334
cw6334 10 d
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Well here's my view, these movies that have just been released didn't take a ton of risks or anything or set up anything new. I love star wars and there is something I can appreciate in every movie even if I am not the biggest fan of that movie. I love the series we have gotten, The Clone Wars will forever be one of the best Star Wars media, The Mandalorian has been really good so far and has been paced very differently, and Rebels started out a little rough but ended fantastic as of recent. The video game scene has been really good as of recent as in arguably the best star wars game yet in Jedi: Fallen Order, seems like The Force Unleashed could be coming back, Star Wars 1313 is currently in talks to comeback. So every other media but the movies are absolutely fantastic because everyone is so back and forth with these movies. I will just express my opinions about each movie as short as I can. In released order, A New Hope was absolutely fantastic and absolutely changed what we thought about Sci-Fi movies and what we thought of space and fantasy, great story and characters, with some good space moments and decent action scenes minus the Obi Wan vs. Darth Vader battle. Empire Strikes Back is personally one of my favorite movies ever because we got EVERYTHING in that movie, space travel, great action moments, great characters/moments, the start to all lightsaber battles for the future, one of the greatest plot twists ever if you didn't already know it, also freaking Lando. Now Return of the Jedi, this is my second favorite of the originals and I think it is amazing, probably the best space battle we have ever seen, even Ewoks were fine even if they were unnecessary and a little OP lol, but the final emotion you feel during the Luke vs Vader fight whenever Luke is desperately trying to help his father break away from the evil but I believe that is the second best Star Wars movie as far as storytelling, symbolism, metaphor, ethos, and characters. Now to the prequels, say what you will about them and I will agree most of the time no matter what the criticism is, but there is some fantastic stuff in these movies, so starting with The Phantom Menace, the opening scene with Neeson and McGregor vs the droids draws you in right away and then it's a little weird from then on out, but it does stick to a main plotline until they end up landing on Tatooine where we get the podrace and stuff which don't get me wrong is pretty cool and it sets up the rest of the storyline with Anakin and creates a sense of mysteriousness within the film but it takes completely away from all the Trade Federation vs The Senate and the negotiations, but the battle and space battles are all pretty entertaining, and of course Darth Maul lightsaber fight which is my personal favorite. Overall Phantom Menace has some questioning things in the film and characters but some great parts too so it is entertaining. Attack of The Clones is where it gets a little iffy, I am not a big fan of this one as far as writing, there is like four different plots going on and a lot of the dialogue seems a little forced to me with Anakin and Padme and such. I like following Obi-Wan the most with the clone army. I like the one jedi battle enough to make me have some entertainment value in Attack of The Clones but it isn't the greatest film at all and I believe maybe the weakest of all the films. Now Revenge of the Sith, this one is a topsy turvy one with me but overall I really like it, great opening scene, great lightsaber action with Yoda and Palpatine and of course probably the second best lightsaber duel with Anakin and Obi-Wan, sometimes it seems like Padme and Anakin's story takes over the overarching story of Order 66 and the continuing war of Trade Federation vs the Republic, but there is some great stuff in Revenge of the Sith making it the strongest of the Prequels as far as character and everything. Then onto Rogue One and Solo, two really good independent films Solo is pretty weak as a film overall but I did like it enough to say it's entertaining. I loved Rogue One one of the best stories ever told in Star Wars media, despite Saw Gerrera. With the new movies Force Awakens is one of my favorites and I find to be the most rewatchable of the series. The Last Jedi is just weak to me and it tries it's best to subvert our expectations just to be different and it wasn't good. Rise of Skywalker was enjoyable enough even with a few flaws and some annoying parts that I thought were unnecesary or could've been great if they were just a little different. Overall the place of Star Wars is good and we have a lot to look forward to, and hopefully we will be able to get what we deserve from Disney. I think somethings need to be retconned like force healing and such but I think overall Star Wars is in a good place.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 10 d
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The prequels are actually really popular. Why did you pretend they weren't?
cw6334
cw6334 10 d
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I am not pretending anything, most general opinions and even fans of Star Wars all agree that the weakest of star wars media is the prequel movies. If you don't think that then fine but that is from most of what i heard.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 10 d
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They've actually always been really popular it's just the minority of people who didn't like them pretended to act on behalf of everyone. Nowadays it's the sequels that most people don't like.
cw6334
cw6334 10 d
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Well @Tyrannus I didn't say that they weren't popular as well, they are just a little weaker in quality comparitively cause if we are being honest, one sequel is really bad. Rise of Skywalker is okay, and Force Awakens is good. So personally I don't think the prequels are as bad because two of them aren't that great.
Tyrannus
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All of the prequels were great. AOTC is the only one that struggled but overall it was good. ROTS was perfection.
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
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Okay well fine, that's your opinion, if you think that then fine. I personally along with many people don't think TPM or AOTC is good, ROTS is pretty good in my opinion. If you like them that much then all the power to you and whoever else thinks that :)
Tyrannus
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I can respect that it's just that a good portion of the fan base did like the prequels and many people pretended that most didn't which is annoying
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
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I agree with that, my overall opinion is I don't love them and I don't particularly think they are very good but I do love some PARTS in the movies, and that's about it. I agree that it can be annoying if you haven't watched them but people try to criticise them.
DeanDinosaur6
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TFA and TROS are good. TLJ is bad. I would only put one of the Sequel Trilogy in the top 5 best Star Wars movies which is The Force Awakens.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 13 d
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TFA was a copy paste of ANH. Slightly inferior even
ForJustice1324
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Personally I like all the Star Wars movies and yes I said all nine The Prequel Trilogy, The Original Trilogy, and The Sequel Trilogy.
LordTracer
The state of Star Wars
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I haven't seen The Rise of Skywalker (though I have read spoilers of what happens, so I do not plan to watch it), so I can't give my opinion on that. But as for the other 2/3 of the trilogy:

The Force Awakens - Honestly, it wasn't that bad. Nowhere near as good as the OGs or prequels, but not bad. I'd give it a 5/10.

The Last Jedi - Ooooh boy, was this movie bad. Easily the worst Star Wars movie that I've seen, even worse than Attack of the Clones. There was almost nothing enjoyable about this movie. 1/10.

Current Star Wars is only struggling on the movie front though. The Mandalorian was fantastic, Star Wars: Rebels was a great series, and I'm sure Clone Wars: Season Seven will be great as well.
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Dark_Wing
The state of Star Wars
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Rey is a Keno... *gets shot Before being able to finish sentence*
LordTracer
The state of Star Wars
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I read the spoilers mate, I know she's a Palpatine.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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Attack of the Clones was good.
LordTracer
The state of Star Wars
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Eh. It was bad overall IMO, but it had some good moments like the Dooku fight.
Dark_Wing
The state of Star Wars
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And the Jango Fett vs Kenobi fight. And "I don't like sand" was the best part!
LordTracer
The state of Star Wars
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Jango. He was pretty cool too.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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I don't know why people make such a big deal about the "I don't like sand" part. It was just a small line that I wouldn't have remembered if it wasn't for the dead memes
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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Jango was far superior to Boba. Jango deserves the love Boba somehow gets.
Dark_Wing
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@Tracer: he's what Boba should have been in the OT
@Tyr: all the prequels were was just a giant meme, please except it.
LordTracer
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OT Boba is lame yes. EU Boba on the other hand...
Dark_Wing
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@LordTracer: in the comic Star Wars #5 by Jason Aaron Boba is defeated by a youngling level Luke Skywalker.
LordTracer
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And in Legacy of the Force, Boba trained Jaina Solo to the point that she was able to loosely contend with Darth Caedus, the strongest Sith Lord (up to that point in time).
Dark_Wing
The state of Star Wars
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He merely taught her Mandlorian fighting styles which she combined with her Jedi martial arts and beyond superhuman physicals to contend with him. Boba himself couldn't even beat RotJ Skywanked.
LordTracer
The state of Star Wars
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Did I say he could? EU Boba's still a badass regardless. And Boba before his prime briefly held his own against a bloodlusted Vader, so...
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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@Dark_Wing Boba is lame. Jango deserves the respect not his son. Even people who make prequel memes don't think the whole things a meme. Not everything's a joke in life.
Dark_Wing
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@Lord: you were implying he could. Where's your proof Vader was bloodlused just because he saw a lightsaber? By that logic was he bloodlusted any of the times he fought Luke (a decently trained Jedi)? And didn't Boba have prep to fight Vader?

@Tyr: I agree. I was being sarcastic when I said everything in those movies is a meme but there are way too many memes to come out of those movies.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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Memes are made from almost every movies nowadays
LordTracer
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No... I was not implying he was. Why're you making assumptions? And Vader was very clearly bloodlusted, it was not simply the fact that he saw a lightsaber. It was the fact that he saw a lightsaber being wielded by a lowly bounty hunter. Vader explicitly said; "You are not worthy to even hold such a blade!" And no, Fett didn't have prep, what made you come anywhere near that conclusion?
Dark_Wing
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@Tyrannus: I know but usually not nearly as many as were made from the prequels.

@LotdTracer: I quote directly from you: "Boba trained Jaina Solo to the point that she was able to loosely contend with Darth Caedus, the strongest Sith Lord (up to that point in time). How dose this not imply anything? If you weren't implying anything then why did you bring that up? In Star Wars #2 by Aaron Vader said to a completely untrained Luke "you hold that blade like an inexperienced child" implying he saw Luke as unworthy of wielding a lightsaber. Was he bloodlusted there? If he was bloodlusted against Boba then this is an isolated instance because he's been outmaneuvered by Han Solo and blitz by RotJ Luke the same Luke who was losing to and was forced to hide from a suppressed and weakened Vader while he himself was amped because the Force was literally on his side willing him to win (both Vader being weakened because he didn't have the same control over the Dark Side and Luke being amped because the Force was on his side are stated in the RotJ novel by the way).
LordTracer
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Because it literally doesn't. I brought it up because Caedus is a master duelist and the fact that Boba's training allowed Jaina to hold her own against him is a testament to how badass Boba is.

Aaron's run is Disney, I'm talking about EU, so... and why are you talking about this as if I'm scaling Boba? I'm just talking about how awesome he is in the EU, not everything is about powerscaling, mate.
Dark_Wing
The state of Star Wars
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Well that fails horribly since Jaina was also a masterful duelist who added Boba's training on to what she already knew and was still an inferior to Jacen.

Because you've used Boba matching Vader in a powerscaling debate before and I thought you were going to go for it again.

Oh, I have a question for thee: where the he'l have you been for the last and a half months?
LordTracer
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You're still missing the point but whatever.

This wasn't even a powerscaling discussion.

On Discord.
Dark_Wing
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Okay

Okay

Why did you feel the need to leave the site tho?
LordTracer
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A lot of the people here just... annoyed me. And Discord is just more inviting IMO.
Dark_Wing
The state of Star Wars
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Who was annoying you? And how's it more inviting?
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Jakcj
Jakcj 16 d
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Depends how you say it's more inviting. What server you join can be more annoying than on this website.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 13 d
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@Dark_Wing The whole of the MCU is full of memes, heck Infinity War has more memes than the prequels combined. Memes actually ruin the prequels, they're mostly not funny
Dark_Wing
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Each of the new movies get something right
TFA: gets Jedi not needing training right
TLJ: gets Luke being a wimp correct
TROS: they got Rey being stronger than her trained and experienced grandfather correct
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Tyrannus
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I thought you were trolling but I'm not sure now
Dark_Wing
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Why would you think I'm not trolling?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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You said they were right to make Luke a wimp but also make Kylo stronger than Rey?
Dark_Wing
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I don't know what I was on when I wrote that last part, what I should have said was

"TROS: they got Rey being stronger than her trained and experienced grandfather correct"
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 11 h 35 m
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I Hate Star Wars
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DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 mo 11 h 35 m
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Like all of it or just the new ones.
DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 mo 11 h 36 m
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Ranging the sequel trilogy
1. Force Awakens 8.5/10
2. Rise Of Skywalker 8/10
3. Last Jedi 3/10
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 16 d
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Your score for TLJ is generous
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 14 h 6 m
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If Palpatine crested Anakin https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Darth-Vader-2017/Issue-25?id=146470, and Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter... oh my Allfather 😲 😲 😲...
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 13 h 48 m
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https://youtu.be/umDr0mPuyQc

Forgive me God for spending countless hours looking at Reylo on DeviantArt... https://imgflip.com/i/3ki404
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 2 d
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They got Palpatine being so powerful that it took every dead Jedi just to defeat him correct.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 3 d
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I mean, I personally enjoy all the current movies, but they're not as good as some of the first ones
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 2 d
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Even The Last Jedi?
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 2 d
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Yeah to an extent, but there were flaws
Atomic_lantern
Atomic_lantern 1 mo 5 d
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The movie was absolutely horrible

They destroyed every other movie before the force awakens and ruined the chosen one prophecy as a whole

4/10 wouldn't recommend
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 4 d
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How did they destroy the PT and OT? While I've not liked Disney's Star Wars movies I thought this was an OK movie and ALMOST fixed the huge problems they created.
Atomic_lantern
Atomic_lantern 1 mo 4 d
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Anakin's sacrifice was for nothing and at the end of the day they claim that "aNyOnE cOulD bE tHe cHoSeN oNe"and later then Rey claimed she was a skywalker changing it to essentially just a title
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 3 d
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That's a very good point actually. That did actually really annoy me.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 6 d
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They got Kylo being stronger than Rey right!
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 6 d
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Has anyone seen The Rise of Skywalker yet? What did you think? I saw it as soon as it came out