No Kill Rule?

Created by ThorMathews, 1 mo 17 d ago.

To kill or not to kill? Do you believe heroes should kill? Which no kill rules are most justified?

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Dusk_Pikachu
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Maybe, if you kill a villain, other villains will be afraid to strike. I'd say it depends.
Michealdem17
Michealdem17 1 mo 12 d
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No kill rule makes any hero better like batman but some villains need to die
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 11 d
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Maybe but that power shouldn't be in 1 man's hands.
Jongensoden
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The fact that the joker is one of batman his most heinous reprehensible enemies is precisely why Batman don't kills him and will sometimes even go to great lengths to keep him from dying by accident or misadventure the joker is far more then just a mere psychopatic clown or serial Killer he is a living embodiement of humanity their worst elements and most depraved excesses He is the evil of man given form a representation of everything horrible lurking In all of us and he knows this
Michealdem17
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Kinda make sense but I think joker is high level psychopath who needs to die and he got killed in injustice by hands of superman that was something he deserved
Jongensoden
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And what happened to superman after that? Part of the human wickedness that Joker exemplIfies is mans own tendency to despise one another for the flaws we all exhibit Joker hates mankind does not think it's worth saving and feels like we are Incapable of being anything better Vicious bloodthirsty animals and the mere fact that we even bother to try Is the most laughable force In the universe as far as he is concerned
Michealdem17
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It's a good point but joker's point of view on Mankind is not completely right this world is not only filled with evil there some goodness still remains but joker's blind judgement doesn't see that only thing he wants is destruction of humanity
Jongensoden
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Batman by contrast embodies man potential to rise above to accept our flaws and acknowledge our damage but nevertheless turn out misery and trauma to good use in the pursuit of justice and peace Batman killing is against this all
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 30 d
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Batman knows there is good and bad in everyone but his point is that most people are more inclined to do good than bad
Michealdem17
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@Tyrannus I think Batman is symbol of good side of humanity
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Jongensoden
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Bruce Wayne had witnessed the horror of killing in childhood when his parents where killed by Joe chill since Joe Is clearly the product of a broken and demoralized society rather then some Inscrutability depraved lunatic and seeing it traumatized him Left scars that will no never go away Bruce Wayne is horrified by the act of murder and the indifference to human life that causes so much misery Like the kind he personaly suffered at the end of the day when you remove his gadgets martial arts etc Batman is just someone who does not want to see anyone else die no matter how much Harm they Bring to others while being alive
Michealdem17
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You have good point but aside from that Batman don't kill cause he want to make adifference and believe in giving second chances and he is a kind person but at the same time he isn't someone who can be manipulated by emotions so easily
Jongensoden
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Yeah batman is a symbol of hope for the human race he represents The possibility that we can be good Despite our shortcomings That just because because whe have been made dirty By lifes filth does not Mean we are soiled forever we can be clean we can be good And decent to each other And while we might never fully recover from the wounds That where smashed across On our collective spirit That does not Mean we Cant stop hurting each other And instead try to move Forward in Solidarity and love That's what the Batman promises The example he tries to set Batman is the hope of rehabilitation of recovery and improvement despite his cynicism And brooding he has faith In our potential to cure the Sickness in all of us Or atleast our potential to isolate And contain it in a way That does not make us indistinguishable from the monsters we fear and loathe
Michealdem17
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Well explained!
Jongensoden
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Thx this is why Joker tries so hard to get Batman to kill him because he thinks hope is false That deep down we are all ugly and soiled as a man He has given up On the hope of redemption and recovery because he sincerely thinks He is unable to be fixed And thus not worth the wasted effort As an archetype Joker symbolizes The allure of giving up of abandoning our silly little morals and ethics and embracing the monstrous evil we hide inside ourselves of being resigned to our Immutable fate as nothing more then insane beasts just raping and killing Our way to a rapid extinction Batman by acting as a symbol of our capacity for growth and development is an obscenity to the Joker a mocking refusal to admit to the truth that we arent worth saving It's a perversion wich The ace of Knaves just cant abide and so he sets out to prove Batman a hypocrite and a charlatan by zealousy Trying to make him go back On his principle to never kill
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 12 d
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Joker challenges Batman his Morals and insanity Batman is so sane he is insane
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 11 d
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They're 2 sides of the same coin
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 13 d
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if one of the world greatest heroes of all time does not believe in the justice system then what is the point? Batman has to do it by the book or else he is no different from the people he is fighting against.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 16 d
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I understand why they don't but if it's a really really bad person like a comic version of Stalin then yes, they should take him out but not average criminals.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 15 d
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That's why lawless vigilantes shouldn't have the authority to kill. Soldiers, police or anyone else working for the government can be held accountable for their actions. If you want someone to die let the law do it's work.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 15 d
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Agreed that is also my point
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 16 d
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My question is if Batman was tied up but Joker gave him a gun and joker said you have to kill me or I'll kill this innocent person... would Batman kill him?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 16 d
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He'd probably do the same thing he did in Under the Red Hood.
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 16 d
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Doesn't have any weapons but the gun on him. Joker stripped him of them so he has to make a decision
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 16 d
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He can just refuse all together unless he can find a way to shoot Joker in a way that would incapacitate him
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 16 d
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It's kill or let an innocent die bottom line. What does Bruce choose?
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 16 d
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Joker's pain tolerance is ridiculous you can't incapacitate him with a bullet
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 16 d
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Gun would propably not even kill Joker
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 15 d
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Then he'd still just outright refuse to play his game. He's been put in these situations before. Also shooting Joker's hand doesn't need to hurt him just physically stop him from shooting the hostage.
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 15 d
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Okay so Batman would rather let an innocent die then kill. ******* coward
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 14 d
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Like are you new to Batman? That doesn't make him a coward, it's what makes him stronger than most weak willed men who would take the easy route instead.
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 14 d
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Refusing to kill and letting INNOCENTS die is ****** UP
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 14 d
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@ThorMathews Your argument is reasonable, the one who refuses to kill knowing that innocent people will die is a f*cking selfish man.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 14 d
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How is he selfish when he litteraly wants to kill joker but he knows it's not the right thing he has even saved many of his villians multiple times what does not killing having to do with being selfish either way
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 14 d
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What do you mean?
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 14 d
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@jongensoden killing Joker IS the right thing! It's saving countless lives by doing so! Not killing him is indeed selfish because it's putting Batmans own problems before innocent lives
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 14 d
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And why don't Gordon kills him or someone else why are you blaming Batman? Batman litteraly says he wants to kill the joker but knows it's not the right thing the only thing wich is different between Heroes and villians are Morals and yes some Heroes kill but they all know it's not the right thing and try avoiding it Batman actually follows this code wich makes him mentally strong also Because the Joker wins if Batman kills him. That's what the Joker wants. Everything he does is to taunt Batman into killing him. In fact, the interesting part of their relationship, the real conflict of each story, is not to see if Batman will stop him (he will), but to watch Batman struggle with not killing him, because anyone other than Batman would of course kill him. This self-control is Batman's superpower. Batman has done many good things so calling him a bad person means you know nothing about him he has a pure heart because he would litteraly even save criminals when they are in danger
Tyrannus
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@Mathews Why do you get to decide whether Joker should live or die? That's why we have the legal system.
@MrJaeger You do know in that situation he'd still have to kill someone to save someone which defeats the purpose.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 14 d
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There isn't always another way to stop Joker apart from killing him (in this case), I don't detract from the morality of Batman not to kill, from a point of view it is something differentiating and admirable, but I have seen countless occasions in which the Joker has put at risk the lives of SEVERAL people and Batman knowing that he has the possibility to stop him (killing him) doesn't do it, I can accept that he doesn't always kill, that he avoids it as much as he can, but that when it's necessary he doesn't limit himself to thinking that "The Joker will win" if he kills him. There's something I learned from Arrow (Netflix), refusing to kill in extreme cases is not a gift, it is a weakness for not having the strength enough to do what is needed when it should. What use is it to Bruce not to kill the Joker, if for every 10 people who die every time he refuses to do it, his conscience is equally stained?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 13 d
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That's the easy answer. Heroes like Batman believe there's always another way. Batman wants to kill him but he knows it's wrong. The Injustice comics exaplined how much of a slippery slope it is. Trust me, it won't ever stop with just Joker. Doing so proves Joker right all along and goes against law and order.
And besides that point, killing Joker prevents him from ever being redeemed. As crazy as this sounds, even he deserves a chance to be normal. The Killing Joke shows us how Joker does have to ability to be sane again but he's too scared to do so.
Batman cannot be held accountable for Joker's actions. Yes Batman could have killed him and prevented all of this but that blame game can be used on anyone who associated with the Joker.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 13 d
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How many lives cost keep trying to prove that Joker isn't right? Or at what cost does Batman insist on always doing the right? I wouldn't say "the easy answer" but rather I would say "the logical answer"
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 13 d
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@MrJaeger07 Exactly!
Jongensoden
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The Joker his ultimate victory is for the Batman a person who refuses no matter what to break down to his level to kill him he wants the Batman to kill him he can not wait for Batman to do it. It will prove his point: anyone can be broken into evil, just like him, if their pain or their reasons are strong enoughMeanwhile, the Batman is facing someone who is the epitome of cruelty and senseless crime. He HAS to beat the Joker according to his rules, to prove to himself that his rules even mean something, that they are absolute. Batman is a symbol of hope not of death Joker goes up against everything Batman stands for, which is what he wants to exploit the most. The Joker wants Batman to kill him because he perfectly embodies chaos and anarchy, and wants to prove a point to everyone that people are basically more chaotic than orderly. If he is right, then civilization is a ruse and we are all truly monsters inside. If the Joker can prove that Batman - the most orderly and logical and self-controlled of all of us - is a monster inside, then we are all monsters inside, and that is terrifying. The Joker is terrifying because we fear that we are like him deep down - that he is us. Batman is what we (any average person) could be at our absolute best, and the Joker is what we could be at our absolute worst. The Joker's claim is that we are all terrible deep down, and it is only the law and our misplaced sense of justice that keeps us in line. Since Batman isn't confined by the law, he is a perfect test case to try to get him to "break". The Joker wants Batman to kill a person, any person, but knows that the only person Batman might ever even remotely consider killing would have to be a terrible monster, so is willing to do this himself and sacrifice himself to prove this macabre point. Batman needs to prove that it is not just laws that keep us in line, but basic human decency and our natural instinct NOT to kill. If Batman can prove this, then others will be inspired by his example (the citizens of Gotham. He is the symbol that there is still hope even in a city as corrupt as Gotham
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 13 d
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@mrjaeger7 even if Batman kills joker batman will end in prison
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 11 d
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@jongensoden But he will not go to prison if he stops saving him (as he has sometimes done)
Tyrannus
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@MrJaeger Your missing the hypocrisy in your solution. Batman famously once said "if you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world stays the same". And if Batman is allowed to kill Joker why don't people all around the world kill the person tormenting them the same way Joker does to Batman. It incites violence. Murder is wrong full stop.
It is the easy answer because you'd rather do that than actually try cure Joker.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 11 d
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@Tyrannus If you kill a serial killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same, but the number of murders per day will drop, tell me, would you rather continue trying to cure a person at the cost of how many innocent lives? killing is wrong, but if it is for a greater good, no.
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ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 11 d
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^^^Exactly
Jongensoden
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Not really batman killed joker so why not two face next or killer croc or every criminal once he killed him it's easier to kill the others Batman is just another criminal if he starts doing that hell he becomes another batman who laughs and murders the whole universe
Tyrannus
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@MrJaeger The number of murderers won't change in the end because now that's you've crossed that line, it's much easier to justify killing more people. It invites more people to also do the same. It never ends with just 1.
@ThorMathews Your really not contributing much with your sideman comments. You've said "exactly" quite a few times now. If you agree just upvote.
ThorMathews
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I'm strongly agreeing lol. You making that comment is pointless you cuck
Tyrannus
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@ThorMathews Stop whining just because I made a good point. Its funny because most of your comments have been quite pointless with your "exactly" comments. Just upvote.
Jongensoden
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also if for example the joker dies more villians will starting working together and crime will get worse in Gotham
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 15 d
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Not necessarily. He's been a symbol of chaos to many people so his death would probably dissuade criminals
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 15 d
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Killing him would make another batman who laughs either way
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 15 d
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That's only if Batman kills him which he won't
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 16 d
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"Curing somebody" isn't worth the lives of countless others
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Jongensoden
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was that meant as reply ?
Jongensoden
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if so yes it is what you said dont make sense if that person is cured he wont kill anymore so its worth it
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 15 d
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It depends. There should always be hope
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 15 d
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Many Batman villians redeemed themselves before so it's possible
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 14 d
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Name 2
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 14 d
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Ok Man Bat and Catwoman
Wic23
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Well to go one way or the other is a slippery slope. On the one hand you get the fact that some people for example the Joker deserve to die but on the other hand when you make it ok to kill bad people the ones who do the justice blur the lines of who deserves to die or you get people abusing their power for their own selfish agendas much like the case of George Floyd. Also not every situation is the same. The joker very clearly deserves to die but how do you decide who does or doesn't? What lines do villians have to cross before we kill them? Should villians like the penguin be killed? How about the riddler? It's hard to decide.
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 16 d
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Joker is insane by the law he cant be killed
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 16 d
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@jongensoden there are some dumbass laws. The law isn't always the right thing. Justice usually isn't served
ThorMathews
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Simple, if a Villian kills innocent people they deserve to die. If they threaten an innocent life, killing is justified
Jongensoden
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wrong insane people deserve to be cured take killer croc for example got bullied his whole life and became a monster he deserves a cure not dead
Jongensoden
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in reality insane people also dont get killed someone who dont know the difference between good and right dont deserve to be killed
Jongensoden
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also thats not even how it works in reality if someone kills someone innocent that dont mean the police kills that person
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 1 mo 16 d
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Joker's insanity isn't curable. Is curing somebody worth the lives of countless others?
Jongensoden
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Joker not but Killer Croc Mr freeze Two face etc can be cured
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Wic23
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Joker is not insane
Jongensoden
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Joker is insane mmh litteraly tried making him sane and it worked for a second he was crying for what he did even the spectre cant navigate in his mind because of how insane he is
Jongensoden
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you could say he is Insane but knows he is Insane because one of his main goals is to drive Batman crazy and show him they are the same
Jongensoden
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@wic23 tbh you seem a cool person i added you on my favourites
Wic23
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Thanks bro, you too but Joker isn't insane. Insane or pleasing insanity is a legal term used in cases for people who do not understand right from wrong. The Joker does. Now the Joker definitely has mental problems but nothing that could be used to plead insanity in a court case. I think film theory talks about this in a video so go watch it he goes more in depth.
Wic23
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Also mmh didn't make him same he gave him a conscience
Jakcj
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I don't understand why Joker isn't insane. He laughs when he feels pain.
Tyrannus
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You can't execute someone's who's legally insane and Joker can been classed as very insane by most doctors. That's not a bad law, it's how it is even in the real world because the mentally unstable aren't fully aware of their actions the same way you can't prosecute a child or even animals for crimes. I know children can be jailed but they do so as minors.
@Wic23 That would class him as a psychopath. They know what they're doing is wrong but do it anyway. That's still a mental condition.
@Jakcj He laughs because he doesn't understand pain and joy in the same way we do. That's what makes him crazy.
Wic23
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Being a psychopath does not qualify you to plead insanity in a case. To plead insanity is to say this person does understand the action they did was wrong. Joker understands what he does wrong he just does it anyway. If he was put in a court case in our courts today unless he had the best lawyer ever, he isn't going to be able to plead insane
Wic23
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There are many psychopaths that live among us today and live regular lives. Some times they die at younger ages because they take big risks because they think they can handle anything. Joker makes plans designed to hurt people in certain ways that if he did not understand right from wrong or pain from joy he would be incapable of executing his plans.
Jongensoden
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Joker understands what he is doing but he don't know what is wrong
Tyrannus
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@Wic23 Are you seriously trying to say being a psychopath or the Joker isn't insane? He's the poster boy of what insanity is.
@jong What your describing is a sociopath.
Jongensoden
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He is crimminaly insane he don't know that what he is doing is bad but he knows he is doing it the Spectre says he won't judge him from this reason he once even got blasted go the moon and lost in his mind because of how insane he is
Tyrannus
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This proves he cannot really be held to the same standard as sane criminals. As vile as his crimes are, he needs help not death
Wic23
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The Joker possesses no mental illness which in court could be used to plead insanity. The mental health institution has certain mental illnesses that a can classify you as criminally insane and the Joker possesses none of them.
Tyrannus
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@Wic23 Schizophrenia, narcissism, multiple personality disorder, obsessive compulsion, sudden aggressive, self-harm, pathological liar as well as displaying all the symptoms of psychopath who shows no remorse for his violent tendencies. The court would be spoiled for choice in how to plead insanity. How in the world are you trying to say joker isn't insane?
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ThorMathews
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I honestly think Batmans reason for not killing is stupid. He could have saved countless lives if he had killed the joker by now. The most justified no kill rule is Daredevils because of his religion
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Tyrannus
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His point being is that it becomes all that more justifiable to take another life. And then the next, and then the next etc. The Injustice comics explain this brilliantly. No one complained when Superman killed Joker (except Batman and the Teen Titans) but then he went on to kill Martian Manhunter because he was attacking Wonder Woman, an army of Parademons, half the green lantern corp, hired Alfred's killer and then finally he killed Billy Batson. Just because he disagreed with him.
ThorMathews
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Yeah still an awful excuse. Have some damn self control bats, joker should be dead. The reason I think they write the no killing rule is so they keep Joker alive because he's easily Batmans best villian
Tyrannus
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He does have control by not killing him at all. Prevention is better than a cure.
I don't think that's the reason because if it weren't for his no killing rule there would be no Joker. Joker wants Batman to kill him.
ThorMathews
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So if Batman kills joker I guess he just starts killing everybody🙄
Tyrannus
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I didn't say that but once you kill Joker why not kill someone like Bane, or Killer Croc or someone holding civilians hostage. It becomes so much easier once you've crossed that line
Jongensoden
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why should batman kill he works with the law not against he has no authority to kill also batman believes everyone can redeem himself also Joker wants to prove batman is as insane as him because if someone like batman someone with the most self control can kill that means everyone is deep inside like the joker
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Jongensoden
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@thormatthews are you that guy on yt who commented on the red hood video because i debated someone why batman should not kill and he had the same picture like your old one on here
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But where do you draw the line? If Batman works with the law, why does he keep putting people (bad guys) in hospitals? Is that justified as long as he doesn't kill?
A sane government/police force doesn't work like that. Kill one crook to save multiple innocent lives will hold up.
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@jongensoden yeah I think I was😂😂
ThorMathews
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@Galactus you're agreeing with me correct?
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if he would kill them he would be not better then then all those villians also remember they are insane they cant do anything about it they have a sad backstory and they became insane Batman believes his villians can redeem themself Batman is allowed from the law what he is doing but as soon as he starts killing not
Galactus
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I'm not saying every villain needs to die. Probably almost none do. But at least have the option open for those who have committed murder. Batman maybe shouldn't be the judge and executioner (we have Judge Dredd for that), but he is there to make Gotham saver. What if you can save multiple people by killing one villain that has been murdering almost his entire life? I'd say; Go Batman!
ThorMathews
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@Galactus Exactly! Thank you!
Wic23
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But when you "have the option" whoever's making that decision could become corrupt much like the real world case of George Floyd
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@Galactus I believe Commissioner Gordon mentioned how vigilantism is the only law Batman bends. Otherwise he will not take the legal system into his own hands. You can't execute someone who's been deemed legally insane as they aren't fully aware of their actions.
@Wic23 @ThorMathews The difference is that police officer could be held accountable for his actions.
Wic23
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The fact that Joker is deemed legally insane is ridiculous. He constantly tries to get batman to kill him because he wants batman to break his code of ethics. When you don't understand right from wrong the concept of a code of ethics doesn't make sense.
ThorMathews
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@Wic23 Exactly! Joker deserves to be dead! The only problem is he's Batmans best villian so they can't afford to kill him😂😂
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No Kill Rule?
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@Wic23 That's what makes him insane. What sane person does that?
@ThorMathews If there's even a small chance he can be saved we must take that chance to save Joker.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 mo 14 d
No Kill Rule?
2 year member
When Black Mask disguised as batman and killed Stephanie Brown his mother Gordon believed it was actually Batman and did not allow vigiliantes anymore in Gotham