None they’re all fodder 😂
Thor: Can’t even keep up with mongoose and got killed by Captain Marvel
Hulk: Killed by Wolverine and got pimp slapped by the Thing and he’s slow and dumb
Wanda: Can’t control her powers, total glass cannon
Dr Strange: Hella inconsistent
Allfather Thor,Dr.Strange and world breaker hulk .And no body even comes close..(If we ignore amped versions like,Black priest,Rkt,Hom scarlet witch Merged Sentry,Wanked Sentry,etc)
Odinforce is not an amp.
1)Its been mentioned in Thor's basic powerset in official marvel website
2)Thor is destined to weild and Thorforce,he was created to surpass Odin and Thor inherits Odinforce in his blood.
So,Odinforce cant be considered as an amp.
3)Sorry,i was wrong about Wb Hulk.Let me edit it
Comics: The truth could name characters like Doctor strange or Sentry before Thor, but considering that neither of them is permanently in the team I would leave Thor in the lead (Hulk could also fight for the position)
MCU: Thor without any discussion.
Well there's cosmic immortal hulk who is the most powerful being in multiverse(besides one above all), he killed franklin richards,galactus,metatron and mr immortal and ended all life in the multiverse. But many say its husk which is controlled by one below all (opposite counterpart of one above all).So it depends . i think he's still hulk and if he is ,he is by far the strongest avenger.
If in mcu it would be doctor strange or scarlett witch.
If Marvel wasn't so racist, then Blue Marvel. One drop of his power powers NYC for a day! He's an antimatter reactor. Plus, antimatter and matter can't coexist without exploding. He's supposed to have Gambit like effect on anything solid(living or not)--only he'd cause a titanic explosion as a result. His shields and blasts should not be comparable to anyone else's period!
That doesn't make Marvel racist. The writers made him to address racism slightly because he actually retired at first because of the racism he may have received but that's the IN universe explanation.
Tyrannus I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one, but I'll state my case. Who else in Marvel that's black and compares to Sentry, Phoenix, Silver Surfer, WWH, etc. Given Brashear's powers, he is supposed to. His potential is that matter blows up and like nuclear level explosions. For the foe, it's not about surviving/regeneration. The foe is molecularly manipulated as an explosion! Like Gambit on non-living matter, the object is the explosion. Antimatter changes matter completely! Plus, his shields, punches, and blasts could be the most powerful in comic history. But, what does Marvel do? They make him 2nd tier.
I get that you might say that It's about safety, but what about Sentry and Silver Surfer cutting loose? They don't even give Adam the option. He is an antimatter reactor, but is only given moon busting status. Really?! C'mon now! A GL has far more ability than that! This is Marvel's best black character, they limit what he can do greatly, and I am supposed to believe that that was not racially motivated?! BY THE WAY, THE RACE COVER STORY IS JUST SO YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED WHEN THEY SLIGHT HIM AS THEY HAVE! IT ALLOWS THEM TO OPERATE IN SILENCE AND WITH IMMUNITY...
Everyone you mentioned there is completely varied in there appearance. If anything that proves how diverse Marvel is. And Blue Marvel already is on their level. They've portrayed him very well too. He almost beat the Sentry himself after soloing the Avengers and he made Galactus into lifebringer. He's one of the few powerhouses to actually have brains as well as brawn.
The irony is if anything Marvel's seen as too fair. They've been bringing done well established heroes to promote minority groups. Blue Marvel is one of the few people they haven't forced down our throats. Many people on this site can vouch for me here in that they agree Blue Marvel is underrated.
Tyrrannus The perception they portray is a moonbuster. But, his powerset says that he's Gambit only far, far, far more powerful and he wouldn't need to touch what he is affecting, either. So, he should have molecular manipulation through explosion; he should be able to turn the being into an explosion(a massive explosion) that would have the potential to destroy the team. The person being turned couldn't recover, because they are an explosion. Maybe it's just me, but they didn't give him the power level that they claim he has. Why call it antimatter, if it's something else?! Depowering him made him below those characters...
I really can't see him as a moonbuster at best given how well he's done against other powerhouses. He beat King Hyperion himself and almost beat the Sentry. Those feats are almost as good as it gets. Even then I get the impression he's holding back so much.
Just wanted to clear up a few lies that @soratoumiga has been feeding y'all.
- Strange Tales Volume 1 #123: @soratoumiga claims Thor "got bodied by the weakest incarnation of Doctor Strange", but in actuality, that is not at all what happened. Firstly, there is no indication that that was a weaker version of Doctor Strange that we have seen in the past, so I don't know where she got that from. Secondly, Thor didn't get "bodied." What happened was, Loki tried to trick Doctor Strange into stealing Mjolnir away from Thor, but Doctor Strange had no way of doing so, literally saying, "My spells won't work against so alien an object! If only I had something made of the same material...." Lol, and she wants to talk about Thor being "fodder" compared to Doctor Strange. Anyways, Loki goes on to give Doctor Strange a sliver from the leather throng of Mjolnir so that Doctor Strange could use it to create a spell in order to steal Mjolnir. Doctor Strange goes on to call upon the power of not only Dormammu, but also that of the Vishanti and the Hosts of Hoggoth to create the spell. He literally needed all of that power in order to affect Mjolnir in any way, which isn't too surprising, considering it is said that no power save Odin's can affect Mjolnir. And so, Doctor Strange created a mystical hand that went to Thor while he was flying and stole Mjolnir from him, which caused Thor to start falling to the ground. I guess that is what @soratoumiga means when he says Doctor Strange "bodied" Thor. I don't see the correlation, but okay. Thor ends up perfectly fine anyways, because Doctor Strange figured out what Loki was doing and sent Mjolnir back to him before he hit the ground, but I found something even more hysterical than that, which brings me to my third point; LOKI was BODYING Doctor Strange. F**king LOKI. Even while he could only use a FRACTION of his true power due to being in his Spirit Form! Like, what the f**k? The battle starts out with Doctor Strange figuring out the evil scheme of Loki. Loki literally says, "Bah! Your power is nothing compared with Loki's!" and goes on to EASILY cast off Doctor Strange's imprisoning spell. Loki then casts his own imprisoning spell out of thin air to entrap Doctor Strange, but the only way Doctor Strange could escape it was to use the FULL extent of the power of the Eye of Agamotto. Then, Doctor Strange tries to entrap Loki in the Purple Dimension, but guess what? Loki, again, EASILY breaks out of it. Doctor Strange then says, "He's right! I was a fool! Despite my mastery of the Mystic arts, I'm still a mortal, while he, he is far, far more!" Loki then strikes Doctor Strange with a barrage of attacks that get evermore so stronger and the only defense Doctor Strange had was, again, the Eye of Agamotto, but even that proved not to be enough, as it was quickly beginning to crumble beneath the sheer force of Loki's attacks. Doctor Strange even says, "Can't hold out much longer! The edges of my protective shield are beginning to crack! Once it crumbles, I'm finished!" I know, I know. Talk about "fodder", am I right? And remember, this is Loki at only a FRACTION of his true power. Anyways, Loki begins to stop, because he sees his superior coming his way (Thor) and runs away, leaving Doctor Strange this close to eternal death. Lastly, read the thoughts of Doctor Strange as he ponders over what just happened, "It is over! But never before have I been so close to defeat; never have I faced an enemy who was so thoroughly ruthless, so incredibly powerful! (looking at Thor) And yet, some Omnipotent power has so arranged the Universe that good must always prevail! For every mighty villain, there is a mightier hero (Thor)! For every menacing enemy of Mankind, there is a fighting Avenger!" Doctor Strange literally acknowledges Thor as Loki's superior. The same Loki that b***hed himself.
I think the narrative of this comic is very clear; Thor > Loki > Doctor Strange. Funny that @soratoumiga used this comic as evidence that Doctor Strange is the superior to Thor. Just proves his inability to comprehend what a comic is trying to convey.
Damn! Looks like trash is back on the site, and is already spreading numerous lies and proving his lack of knowledge on anything unrelated to Thor. Guess I gotta debunk his bullsh*t as quick as possible. People might start believing him.
First off, let's look at his initial claim about Strange Tales #123. As I said before, it's painfully obvious how unknowledgeable SirSpidey is on Doctor Strange. (I mean, claiming Thor is superior to Doctor Strange is proof enough, but let's get that out of the way and ignore such absurd claims, for now). Now, Spidey claims that Strange being in his weaker incarnation during the events of ST#123 is not factual, which already proves absence of his brain cells. Strange, at the time, not only did not have his standard artifacts he has today and in modern times, he didn't even have the powers of Sorcerer Supreme nor the title, and it is worth to note that Strange, again, at that time, was inexperienced and unable to control magic as effectively as he does in the future. Now to continue the debunk, Strange (a noob Strange, by the way) said he can't affect MJOLNIR, not Thor. And Mjolnir is blessed by Odin, who is leagues and tiers above Thor, the two are not comparable, so basically he's saying his spells can't affect an artifact created by a Skyfather level being, Odin, who dwarfs Thor (literally, stomped him as if he was a dwarf a couple of times in comics). Yet funny how Strange actually succeeds in what he thought was impossible, and a weaker Strange nonetheless.
Now, to quote his bullshit, and debunk it, piece by piece.
"Strange goes on to call upon the power of not only Dormammu, but also that of the Vishanti and the Hosts of Hoggoth to create the spell. He literally needed all of that power in order to affect Mjolnir in any way, "
Well, thank you for proving that you don't know how magic works in Marvel. He didn't call upon their full power. Since you don't know how magic works, not that I'm surprised in any case, I'll explain it; there are mystical entities - principalities, like The Vishanti, or Dormammu, or Chthon etc. Spellcasters invoke their name and powers if necessary to use magic to achieve an affect. They don't invoke their powers directly and by no means do they use their full might to achieve those effects. Pity you don't read Doctor Strange and similar comics, otherwise you'd know this, and not get debunked like this. Oh, and it's not "Hosts of Hoggoth"; it's just Hoggoth, lol, you keep proving your lack of knowledge. Sad.
"which isn't too surprising, considering it is said that no power save Odin's can affect Mjolnir. "
Cut the bullshit, Silas. Molecule Man, in Avengers #215, was literally able to tear it up into pieces, Mephisto was able to turn it into jelly and reconstruct it without lifting a finger in Thor Annual #13, Mjolnir got broken by attacks a Celestial's head in Thor #388 etc etc. It was clearly affected by other entities than Odin, which is nothing surprising, considering Odin is weak compared to characters I named above.
"I guess that is what @soratoumiga means when he says Doctor Strange "bodied" Thor. "
Yes, I do.
"LOKI was BODYING Doctor Strange. "
No.
"F**king LOKI. Even while he could only use a FRACTION of his true power due to being in his Spirit Form! Like, what the f**k? The battle starts out with Doctor Strange figuring out the evil scheme of Loki. Loki literally says, "Bah! Your power is nothing compared with Loki's!" and goes on to EASILY cast off Doctor Strange's imprisoning spell. Loki then casts his own imprisoning spell out of thin air to entrap Doctor Strange, but the only way Doctor Strange could escape it was to use the FULL extent of the power of the Eye of Agamotto. "
You say "F**king LOKI", as if he is weak or unimpressive, when he was able to contend with Silver Surfer and Bor, both of whom are superior to Thor. And Eye of Agamotto is standard equipment for Strange, ******. It's like Thor w/ Mjolnir.
The rest of your post is just absurd and laughable claims that you spammed just to make your post look longer, so I won't bother addressing them.
However, I will say that I find it funny how you dodged another instance where Strange was shown to be superior to Thor, in Avengers #116, where he says he's no match for Strange, and I definitely wouldn't be surprised if you ducked this argument again, using my other paragraphs as concealment. In general, you'll probably duck this, like you ducked Soul, Isk, NIH and other Discord users a few months ago (even me, you still haven't responded to my thorough debunk, you conceded via burden of rejoinder on that one, but still I'm reminding you), mainly because you're scared. Hell, even GodSpeedNinja bodied you yesterday, so yeah, this way too easy.
Spidey... Honestly, at least give me a challenge. This is way too easy, I mean, I know you are not on my level, by your own concession and admission, but at least try. You can do it, Nemian taught you well, you just have to show it.
Probably Dr. Strange most of the time. I think the only characters that would have a chance to upset would be a high tier speedster who can get in an attack before he has a chance to put up a shield or whatever else. Otherwise he's probably just going to do some sort of space/ time reality warping business to end the fight right away. Wanda has tons of raw power, but her control and understanding of her powers is nowhere close to Dr. Strange.
Dr.Strange is a casual microsecond timer,has invisible shields present around him all the time,has mystical 6th sense/precognition,Eye of agomotto can react to mftl attacks,he can stop and slow down time,he can speed up himself to mftl levels by using spells like "Rings of Ragadorr" , "Secrets of Seraphim",etc.
He is on some of there lists. Did Strange use his full versatility against Hulk? Like soul manipulation, time manipulation, banish, reality warping, etc? And if he did then explain this: Hulk = Thor and Thor himself said that he was fodder to Strange.
Strange already clapped Thor a couple of times, while the latter also admitted to be his inferior. Not to mention feats, Strange is much more powerful than Thor.
@Breaker: A stronger version of Hulk admitted that Strange can blink him out of existence. And Strange did join the team and was briefly a part of it in 2015 and 2018.
Again, in Defenders (1972) #44, Strange one-shots Hulk with a simple blast. In World War Hulk #2 and #3, there are three instances, where Strange and Hulk themselves state that Strange is far superior to WORLD WAR Hulk, someone stronger than Savage Hulk. The writers goes so far to even say that Strange can erase Hulk with a SNAP OF HIS FINGERS. And Thor, someone relative to Hulk, roughly equal, or even superior, got bodied by the weakest incarnation of Strange in Strange Tales #123. Not only that, but Thor, someone who's literally enhanced with magical abilities stated, in Avengers #116 that he can do nothing to defend against Strange's magic. Hulk has no chance.
Also, what are you talking about? In that issue, Strange barely made an appearance, he didn't even confront Hulk. In fact, he was briefly matched by Red She-Hulk, lmao.
@soratoumiga and @EmptyHand Always is, eh? Do you mind explaining to me how Wanda beats Michael Demiurgos, Lucifer Morningstar, Elaine Belloc, or even any of the Endless for that case, Mr. Always Right, High, and Mighty?
Man, I am so curious as to why people would even think Thor is the most powerful Avenger in comics, when Thor HIMSELF has admitted that he's fodder to Doctor Strange.
Imagine thinking picking up a defenseless brick while amped is more impressive than overpowering a suppressed and caught off guard Infinity Gauntlet
>can't be me
Imagine thinking physically overpowering a brick, which none of the other Avengers were capable of doesn't count as proof of being strongest/most powerful
>can't be me
Imagine trying to use an anti feat from a drunk and morbidly obese Thor to lowball your least favorite character while saying your favorite overpowered Thanos when all she did was block a few attacks, was about to be crushed, and picked him up which is something he has absolutely no way of countering all that while amped by the death of Vision which is confirmed by the Russo Bros.
>can't be me
Imagine trying to justify Thor being a fodder to Thanos because of his physical condition, when it was made clear that Thor was never his superior, fit or not, while also thinking that Wanda didn't overpower Thanos physically, when it was, again, made clear that she was overpowering him by just pushing her one hand towards his sword, where he concentrated all of his force, yet still couldn't overpower her. Also imagine thinking a death of someone can amp you, and imagine thinking Wanda can't beat Thanos, when even Kevin Feige himself said she can
>can't be me
Ask literally anyone who has medical experience what obesity dose to your physical abilities and ask said medical experts what drunkenness dose to your body and mind. Before you say "that's not a fair compassions because Thor is a god while all of the people scientists study aren't" Thor ain't a god in the MCU the quote "your ancestors call it magic you call it science I come from a world where there one in the same thing" implies that Thor is an alien with highly advanced tech like he was in the 90s. Imagine ignoring the point in their fight right before Wanda smirked where it looked like Thanos was about to crush her with his sword in order to overrate a flashy display of TK powers and some weird faces from Elisabeth Olsen. Also imagine thinking the emotional trauma of losing a loved one (especially a husband figure) won't effect the victim's mental powers (assuming they had them) especially when said victim is literally an alternate version of the girl from House of M.
>can't be me
If you still don't like the fact that Wanda had an emotional amp then tell that to the Russo Brothers, not to me. Note that Kevin Fiege said Wanda "can" beat Thanos not she "will" beat Thanos every time they fight. Also not how the writers have implied that overweight Thor was created to nerf him so other heroes (like bloodlusted, emotionally amped, insane Wanda) could also have a share in taking down Thanos because even the writers know Thanos couldn't stand a chance against full power Thor.
Ask anyone, comic movie fan or not, obesity won't affect someone's abilities, especially if that someone is Asgardian. I'm not even trying to say he's god, because he's not, neither in movies or comics, he's an advanced alien with enhanced powers. Imagine on purposely avoiding that one scene where Thanos was so weak he couldn't even penetrate through Wanda's single force field even with his sword, and then imagine ignoring how she used one hand to literally overpower Thanos who was using both of his hands with full power/force, and then literally one-shot him and broke his sword, lmao. Now again imagine thinking that only a death of a loved one can trigger her powers to work, when she never before got the chance to face Thanos 1v1. Add Kevin's statements onto that, you get a solid, firm case that Wanda stomps Thanos with utmost ease, bloodlusted or not.
>can't be me
She "will" not beat him, because he's already dead/snapped lmao. She CAN beat him in a hypothetical fight, and SHE WAS ACTUALLY DOING IT. Had it not been for Thanos' entire army, she would have killed him, and the movie, as well as directors and screenwriters confirmed that.
But obesity and drunkenness will affect someone's physical and mental abilities. Asgardians can get drunk which is shown quite a few times in the source material ie the comics; even Odin the Allfather of Asgard can get drunk _Thor #10 2018. If the Allfather can get drunk imagine what would happen to his hopelessly depressed son. If Thor used his country level thunderstorm attacks from Infinity War he might have been able to take down Thanos and his army a second time and before you say "he had no time" I could name many instances during that battle where Thor had Stormbreaker in hand and wasn't fighting Thanos where he could have used what you like to call an AoE attack. But he conveniently you try to physically overpower him which backfired because of what obesity and drunkenness did to his physic and he probably didn't think to use said ability because of what five years of being drunk did to his mentality. "He's not a god in the comics" Jason Aaron will have to disagree with you. I'm not sure if you know who Jason Aaron is, all you need to know is that he retconed that 90s change to fix Thor's origin back to what Stan Lee first imagined it as. I'm not purposefully ignoring that scene I'm just reminding you of the moment where Thanos was about to crush her and her force field and you add to the fact everything he's been through within the last five minutes like battling Thor, Mjolnir Cap, and Captain Marvel and you realize that he would have literally stomped her into a bloody pulp (ignoring overwanked statements). Before you say "none of those heroes even bruised Thanos" remember Thanos was wearing armor so he might have had bones broken and we didn't see it. Isn't Kevin Fiege the same person who said 1: Avengers Endgame would be called Infinity War 2 and said Cap Marvel was the strongest character which should put her above Wanda and Thanos without the IG was able to pretty badly beat Carol up? And don't put words in my mouth, I never said "only a death of a loved one can trigger her powers to work" I said a death of a loved one triggered her power amp that's why her eyes were glowing red during her fight with Thanos in Endgame saying "only the death of a loved one could trigger psychic powers is like saying the only way to become a speedster is to get struck by lighting or the only way to become a green rage monster would be to get hit with a gamma bomb. And no mater how you try to twist it could is not the same as would and I've already debunked your claims with Kevin's most iconic statement (scroll up to see).
We are not talking about comics now, we are talking about movies, and all of them can get drunk, that's obvious and futile to actually emphasize. Thor could have taken out a small portion of the army, but definitely not all of them, but he still wouldn't be able to defeat Thanos, because Thanos completely no-sells the lightning strikes from either Stormbreaker or Mjolnir. It's not me who calls it AoE attack, everyone does that, and no he couldn't have. He was busy fighting Thanos for nearly entire movie, and just when Thanos went to seek the Infinity Gauntlet, to claim to himself, guess who showed up? Wanda. After she completely humiliated him, Thanos asked for an air strike, which took out a vast majority of his own army, so like only 15%, roughly, of the initial numbers stayed on the battlefield. So Thor could have taken out all of them if he used AoE attack, but you're forgetting that the army isn't just mindless Ravagers like in IW, they are actually physically stronger, more versatile and agile, so it would NLF to say he would be able to take out all of them. And as I said, these are the reasons he didn't use AoE attacks, which likely wouldn't work on all of Thanos' army, due to their durability and agility, not because he was fat or out of shape. The only thing that changed was his mindset, as I said before.
No, he's not really a god, he's an Asgardian, if he was truly a god, he wouldn't be defeated by various other characters who are not gods. He and Asgardians, as well as Olympians etc are just self-procclaimed gods. And don't mention Aaron, he ruined many characters from the Norse mythos in his Thor runs last few years.
If you're not ignoring that scene, you wouldn't have ignored the most crucial part about that scene; Thanos failed. He couldn't slice her open, because 1) She is fast enough to react and 2)She has abilities to defend herself. He never even came close to destroying her force field, in fact, her force field was already cutting his sword open, if you pay close attention, EVEN WITH ONE HAND. She then used her other hand, and it was all over, pretty much. And no, if you're trying to say that he was "tired" or "exhausted" from fighting Thor, Cap and Tony, don't bother lmao, he didn't have a single bruise and he completely fodderized them, not to mention that he has godly stamina which further proves my point of him not being bothered by that fight, physically. And he didn't fight Captain Marvel before he fought Wanda. Thanos would get shitstomped, be it in the end of the movie, the middle or the beginning. The directors and the president himself made it very clear that she can defeat him 1v1, he wouldn't beat her to a bloody pulp, that's just your fanfic. SOOO.... Her eyes were glowing red? And that's why she was amped? Lmao, no. She was just pissed off at him, and then fodderized him, she can do it again, and take the fight 10/10 times. Kevin said the first statement, yes, and it was about the movie, not the characters, so I don't see the correlation. And he never said CM would be strongest CHARACTER, but HERO. Quite debatable, but him saying and just confirming what happened in the movie itself; that is that Wanda can stomp Thanos with ease, is quantifiable and shouldn't be ignored as a valuable piece of evidence.
Let's stop this imagining. I think Thor (at his prime) is able to overpower six ISs. Which means he can overpower everyone who gets its powers from stone.
I said that bc youre comparing a dude to his superior in every way for examp mother night is also superior to endless does she has any feats? No but she is same with this battle
Both of you said that OKT wins, yet didn't provide feats, scans, evidence, issues, nothing. I'm not aware if you know how debates work, but when you make a claim and want people to believe you, you have to provide evidence. So far, neither one of you has even send a simple issue, let alone scans or more thorough explanation to support your arguments. So I'm clapping hard just by using logic.
@Soratoumiga dude, odin's powers are asgardian superhuman capacities and odin force. OKT's has both, and + thor powers. How Odin beats him? Do you think that's logical?
@soratoumiga and @EmptyHand Why do you or any of your other friends constantly downvote and flag my comments whenever they pertain to Scarlet Witch? Do you really take offense to what I have to say?
@EmptyHand And it's on average you being an intolerable, thin-skinned, simplistic, imbecilic, biased s**t-d**k and you and your friend failing to answer my questions on how Wanda beats someone. Ironic how your friend @sora hated Scarlet Witch before he started fanboying over her.
I am flattered. I truly am. Being the number one topic of many people and not being able to get my name out of their mouths is complimentary, but for the sake of other users, please don't mention my name unless neccessary or unless I'm there, online, to talk.
@Sora is ignorant. He didn't prove anything to me or @Oblivion here (OKT vs Odin). And can't answer @HolyJoe. You can't prove your opinion. I proved you wrong, you said I didn't prove anything. And we must stop talking about users, site is based on characters not users
Well for one, thank you for ignoring my request, you are childish, as if that's news to everyone. For two, you two made the claim, and I am not shocked that you don't know how a debate works, but when you make a claim, you have to defend it with evidence and proof. Neither you nor Oblivion actually proved that. Quit bickering about things, please, you just turn out as immature and ignorant, and you don't want people to see you as such.
@soratoumiga Completely ironic coming from you. Before I begin, I want to thank you so much for being stupid enough to not answer my previous question on how Wanda beats Michael Demiurgos, Lucifer Morningstar, Elaine Belloc, or even any of the Endless. To further add on, I'd like to thank you for failing to provide better evidence of Scalet Witch w/ Life Force doing anything better than Beyonder:
Erasing the concept of death:
https://imgur.com/RcpeRvw
https://imgur.com/qmVLvyz
https://imgur.com/mZnFG5U
https://imgur.com/Ohlr2BY
https://imgur.com/LxLScUt
altering the entire multiverse just with his sheer size:
https://imgur.com/5m5rFgs
https://imgur.com/34sxDde
destroying parallel dimensions just by standing there:
https://imgur.com/psU7xax
https://imgur.com/AONqi4d
defeating every hero and brought death to everything:
https://imgur.com/knFBFQz
https://imgur.com/1jcxH6M
https://imgur.com/eZ6rIdU
still being more powerful than the entire cosmic assembly which includes the Living Tribunal and Eternity: http://imgur.com/5J0XqgG
and millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse including the Tribunal: http://imgur.com/F4KYtNF
Your lack of comic experience there displays nothing but pitiful, infantile, cynical, immature, vapid, vacuous, prejudiced, ignorance. You or your friends can downvote and flag my comment all you want, but it's not gonna do you any good but add on to such ignorance you guys possess. The only evidence you offer to support your claims is just a bunch of feminist comments, links to images showing some sucky hyperboles rather than effort, and your BS claims of reality-warping. Well, lemme tell you something, there are a f**k-ton of other characters with reality-warping powers and abilities that are even better than your little witch-y heroine. You're acting all high and mighty by laughing at what people have to say and claiming to always be right when in reality, you leave the battle page with nothing left to say after literally get destroyed in every debate involving a fight between Scarlet Witch and a stupidly overpowered character.
It's time you woke up form your reality and got a glimpse of the real comic book world. Get mad, sora, cuz you earned the L.
@soratoumiga No, I actually don't. In fact, I stopped caring when you decided to b***h out on LF Scarlet Witch vs Beyonder after I posted evidence for you. With you posting sad comments like you just did now and either you or your friends upvoting your comments and downvoting mine just adds on to your cancerous level of ignorance. You can feel bad for me all you want, but I won't do the same for you, because we all know that you're upset from these burns I've been giving you.
@soratoumiga Specifically, I don't give a damn about you saying Wanda is underrated nor your BS endeavors to prove that she'd beat beings like Beyonder. Because you're a "fodder".
>says I can't prove sora wrong when he can't even provide actual evidence of Scarlet Witch beating Beyonder
>makes a battle of himself, Emptyhand, and sora beating me and still considers us friends
>claims sora can't give sora evidence even though he gave you the scan.
>won't get over a mere joke after I apologized and still has me on his favorite which implies we're still friends
>gives me the scan of a statement rather than something impressive like erasing the death concept, destroying dimensions by just standing, or causing multiversal destruction
@EmptyHand No, it's you who's ruining it. Wanna know why? It's because you keep constantly overrating Scarlet Witch and not giving all the other characters on this site the credit they deserve. Not even your friend LordTracer (who's a thousand times a better debater than you and @sora) would agree with you on saying Wanda can beat Goku nor that much of the attention you've been giving her You bring foul language and insults to every debate and constantly downvote whenever you're proved wrong. You don't even treat users with respect on this site. You just like to brag and laugh about being right all the time when you really aren't and you constantly downvote and flag people who post comments that don't agree with you. It's people like you that've divided this community.
I shouldn't even have you on my favorites. Not after your terrible misdemeanors towards others.
"We are not talking about comics now, we are talking about movies" agreed, I only brought up the comics because the MCU are entirely based on the comics.
"Thor could have taken out a small portion of the army, but definitely not all of them, but he still wouldn't be able to defeat Thanos, because Thanos completely no-sells the lightning strikes from either Stormbreaker or Mjolnir."
Where's your proof that he couldn't do what he did in Wakanda during all the time that he wasn't fighting Thanos?
"He was busy fighting Thanos for nearly entire movie"
You mean cut off Thanos' head in the first act then precede to get destroyed by time displaced Thanos within less than a minute twice then precede to fight in the final battle for like 8 minutes before Wanda went crazy on Thanos?
"Thor could have taken out a small portion of the army, but definitely not all of them"
He could have taken at LEAST half of them with Stormbreaker alone as shown in IF. Add Mjolnir and the cosmic storm within it on top of that and imagine what he could do.
"just when Thanos went to seek the Infinity Gauntlet, to claim to himself, guess who showed up? Wanda. After she completely humiliated him, Thanos asked for an air strike, which took out a vast majority of his own army, so like only 15%, roughly, of the initial numbers stayed on the battlefield"
Thanos spent a full minute at least chasing Black Panther (which was more than enough time for Thor to call an air strike) and then fought Wanda for 30 seconds (which was time for Thor to call in two air strikes) before being held in the air for 14 seconds, then he had his ship fire down on her. Their a bunch of instances where Thor could have called in the air strike if he wanted to but eerily didn't for some reason. And you have yet to prove that his army was "more durable"
"No, he's not really a god, he's an Asgardian"
*Asgardian god of thunder*
"if he was truly a god, he wouldn't be defeated by various other characters who are not gods. He and Asgardians, as well as Olympians etc are just self-procclaimed gods."
1: he only loses to those characters because he holds back against all mortals _Civil War. Including powerhouses like Hulk and Sentry _Incredible Hulk #440 and "god" is just a title like King or Emperor is Darkseid not a god because he's constantly being pushed by by the JL? 2: what do you mean by "are just self-procclaimed gods?"
"And don't mention Aaron he ruined many characters from the Norse mythos in his Thor runs last few years"
Yet you get to use facts from Kevin Feige and get to use the retcon if Wanda's powers to avoid saying Cuthon wills her out of existence. And I'm pretty sure Marvel already destroyed the Norse mythology by 1: Odin not being the war mongering Viking who ripped out his eye for magic and hung himself for runes 2: Thor being more interested in Jane than in Sif 3: Thor and Loki being adoptive brothers 4: Lady Sif not having her Rapunzel level hair 5: Thor becoming the king of Asgard after Odin's death 6: the Asgardians not being friends with the giants 7: Sif not being the goddess of anything while Norse Sif was the Goddess of Fertility 8: etc
"if you're trying to say that he was "tired" or "exhausted" from fighting Thor, Cap and Tony, don't bother lmao, he didn't have a single bruise"
So if I run a mile am I not tired? You're forgetting that he was fighting a 3v1 and fought in the battle for a good 10 minutes before fighting Wanda. So, he might have been a little tired. And he might have been bruised but we didn't see it because he was wearing a bunch of armor and if Ironman can damage Thanos who had five stones at the time then imagine what him, Thor with both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker who was physically equal to him in strength remember Thanos had to use H2H skill to get out of both blade locks with Thor, and Captain America who landed 9 solid hits on him not counting both times he was struck by lightning and all of those hits staggered him.
Oh, and according to the Russos Cap was killing thanks during his brief moment with Mjolnir.
"not to mention that he has godly stamina which further proves my point of him not being bothered by that fight, physically"
Prove that he has godly stamina in the MCU.
"He never even came close to destroying her force field, in fact, her force field was already cutting his sword open"
Oh, rewatch the scene: Thanos was about to crush her but thanks to the emotional amp (which I've proven she had) she could pick him up and rip off his armor.
"If you pay close attention, EVEN WITH ONE HAND. She then used her other hand, and it was all over, pretty much"
>Imagine thinking mental powers would need hand gestures period
>can't be me. The only reason psychic characters use hand gestures is because it looks cool,
"Her eyes were glowing red? And that's why she was amped? Lmao, no. She was just pissed off at him, and then fodderized him, she can do it again, and take the fight 10/10 times"
I said "that's why her eyes were glowing" PAY ATTENTION @SORA 1: no, the reason I say she was amped was A: common logic and B: the Russos say she was in the commentary. And no Thanos has already slapped her in IF despite the fact that she just destroyed and given what we know about the Infinity Stones that energy had to go somewhere. Where did it go? Into your emotionally unstable psychic Waifu. And in the begin of IF Wanda and Vision were defeated by Thanos' henchmen and had to be saved by Normad and Black Widow; otherwise they would have been toast. So no it factual: had she have not been amped like I'm about to prove Thanos WOULD have smashed her into oblivion.
"Kevin said the first statement, yes, and it was about the movie, not the characters, so I don't see the correlation"
Don't mind Kevin; he lies all the time and contradicts himself and the actual writers like the Russos.
"Wanda can stomp Thanos with ease"
You do have to love this guys crush on Elisabeth Olsen don't you?
Thor: Can’t even keep up with mongoose and got killed by Captain Marvel
Hulk: Killed by Wolverine and got pimp slapped by the Thing and he’s slow and dumb
Wanda: Can’t control her powers, total glass cannon
Dr Strange: Hella inconsistent
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Strongest: Hulk
Most powerful: Wanda
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Strongest: Hulk
Most powerful: Dr. Strange/Thor
1)Its been mentioned in Thor's basic powerset in official marvel website
2)Thor is destined to weild and Thorforce,he was created to surpass Odin and Thor inherits Odinforce in his blood.
So,Odinforce cant be considered as an amp.
3)Sorry,i was wrong about Wb Hulk.Let me edit it
MCU: Thor without any discussion.
If in mcu it would be doctor strange or scarlett witch.
MCU: Thor
I get that you might say that It's about safety, but what about Sentry and Silver Surfer cutting loose? They don't even give Adam the option. He is an antimatter reactor, but is only given moon busting status. Really?! C'mon now! A GL has far more ability than that! This is Marvel's best black character, they limit what he can do greatly, and I am supposed to believe that that was not racially motivated?! BY THE WAY, THE RACE COVER STORY IS JUST SO YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED WHEN THEY SLIGHT HIM AS THEY HAVE! IT ALLOWS THEM TO OPERATE IN SILENCE AND WITH IMMUNITY...
The irony is if anything Marvel's seen as too fair. They've been bringing done well established heroes to promote minority groups. Blue Marvel is one of the few people they haven't forced down our throats. Many people on this site can vouch for me here in that they agree Blue Marvel is underrated.
- Strange Tales Volume 1 #123: @soratoumiga claims Thor "got bodied by the weakest incarnation of Doctor Strange", but in actuality, that is not at all what happened. Firstly, there is no indication that that was a weaker version of Doctor Strange that we have seen in the past, so I don't know where she got that from. Secondly, Thor didn't get "bodied." What happened was, Loki tried to trick Doctor Strange into stealing Mjolnir away from Thor, but Doctor Strange had no way of doing so, literally saying, "My spells won't work against so alien an object! If only I had something made of the same material...." Lol, and she wants to talk about Thor being "fodder" compared to Doctor Strange. Anyways, Loki goes on to give Doctor Strange a sliver from the leather throng of Mjolnir so that Doctor Strange could use it to create a spell in order to steal Mjolnir. Doctor Strange goes on to call upon the power of not only Dormammu, but also that of the Vishanti and the Hosts of Hoggoth to create the spell. He literally needed all of that power in order to affect Mjolnir in any way, which isn't too surprising, considering it is said that no power save Odin's can affect Mjolnir. And so, Doctor Strange created a mystical hand that went to Thor while he was flying and stole Mjolnir from him, which caused Thor to start falling to the ground. I guess that is what @soratoumiga means when he says Doctor Strange "bodied" Thor. I don't see the correlation, but okay. Thor ends up perfectly fine anyways, because Doctor Strange figured out what Loki was doing and sent Mjolnir back to him before he hit the ground, but I found something even more hysterical than that, which brings me to my third point; LOKI was BODYING Doctor Strange. F**king LOKI. Even while he could only use a FRACTION of his true power due to being in his Spirit Form! Like, what the f**k? The battle starts out with Doctor Strange figuring out the evil scheme of Loki. Loki literally says, "Bah! Your power is nothing compared with Loki's!" and goes on to EASILY cast off Doctor Strange's imprisoning spell. Loki then casts his own imprisoning spell out of thin air to entrap Doctor Strange, but the only way Doctor Strange could escape it was to use the FULL extent of the power of the Eye of Agamotto. Then, Doctor Strange tries to entrap Loki in the Purple Dimension, but guess what? Loki, again, EASILY breaks out of it. Doctor Strange then says, "He's right! I was a fool! Despite my mastery of the Mystic arts, I'm still a mortal, while he, he is far, far more!" Loki then strikes Doctor Strange with a barrage of attacks that get evermore so stronger and the only defense Doctor Strange had was, again, the Eye of Agamotto, but even that proved not to be enough, as it was quickly beginning to crumble beneath the sheer force of Loki's attacks. Doctor Strange even says, "Can't hold out much longer! The edges of my protective shield are beginning to crack! Once it crumbles, I'm finished!" I know, I know. Talk about "fodder", am I right? And remember, this is Loki at only a FRACTION of his true power. Anyways, Loki begins to stop, because he sees his superior coming his way (Thor) and runs away, leaving Doctor Strange this close to eternal death. Lastly, read the thoughts of Doctor Strange as he ponders over what just happened, "It is over! But never before have I been so close to defeat; never have I faced an enemy who was so thoroughly ruthless, so incredibly powerful! (looking at Thor) And yet, some Omnipotent power has so arranged the Universe that good must always prevail! For every mighty villain, there is a mightier hero (Thor)! For every menacing enemy of Mankind, there is a fighting Avenger!" Doctor Strange literally acknowledges Thor as Loki's superior. The same Loki that b***hed himself.
First off, let's look at his initial claim about Strange Tales #123. As I said before, it's painfully obvious how unknowledgeable SirSpidey is on Doctor Strange. (I mean, claiming Thor is superior to Doctor Strange is proof enough, but let's get that out of the way and ignore such absurd claims, for now). Now, Spidey claims that Strange being in his weaker incarnation during the events of ST#123 is not factual, which already proves absence of his brain cells. Strange, at the time, not only did not have his standard artifacts he has today and in modern times, he didn't even have the powers of Sorcerer Supreme nor the title, and it is worth to note that Strange, again, at that time, was inexperienced and unable to control magic as effectively as he does in the future. Now to continue the debunk, Strange (a noob Strange, by the way) said he can't affect MJOLNIR, not Thor. And Mjolnir is blessed by Odin, who is leagues and tiers above Thor, the two are not comparable, so basically he's saying his spells can't affect an artifact created by a Skyfather level being, Odin, who dwarfs Thor (literally, stomped him as if he was a dwarf a couple of times in comics). Yet funny how Strange actually succeeds in what he thought was impossible, and a weaker Strange nonetheless.
"Strange goes on to call upon the power of not only Dormammu, but also that of the Vishanti and the Hosts of Hoggoth to create the spell. He literally needed all of that power in order to affect Mjolnir in any way, "
Well, thank you for proving that you don't know how magic works in Marvel. He didn't call upon their full power. Since you don't know how magic works, not that I'm surprised in any case, I'll explain it; there are mystical entities - principalities, like The Vishanti, or Dormammu, or Chthon etc. Spellcasters invoke their name and powers if necessary to use magic to achieve an affect. They don't invoke their powers directly and by no means do they use their full might to achieve those effects. Pity you don't read Doctor Strange and similar comics, otherwise you'd know this, and not get debunked like this. Oh, and it's not "Hosts of Hoggoth"; it's just Hoggoth, lol, you keep proving your lack of knowledge. Sad.
"which isn't too surprising, considering it is said that no power save Odin's can affect Mjolnir. "
Cut the bullshit, Silas. Molecule Man, in Avengers #215, was literally able to tear it up into pieces, Mephisto was able to turn it into jelly and reconstruct it without lifting a finger in Thor Annual #13, Mjolnir got broken by attacks a Celestial's head in Thor #388 etc etc. It was clearly affected by other entities than Odin, which is nothing surprising, considering Odin is weak compared to characters I named above.
"I guess that is what @soratoumiga means when he says Doctor Strange "bodied" Thor. "
Yes, I do.
"LOKI was BODYING Doctor Strange. "
No.
"F**king LOKI. Even while he could only use a FRACTION of his true power due to being in his Spirit Form! Like, what the f**k? The battle starts out with Doctor Strange figuring out the evil scheme of Loki. Loki literally says, "Bah! Your power is nothing compared with Loki's!" and goes on to EASILY cast off Doctor Strange's imprisoning spell. Loki then casts his own imprisoning spell out of thin air to entrap Doctor Strange, but the only way Doctor Strange could escape it was to use the FULL extent of the power of the Eye of Agamotto. "
You say "F**king LOKI", as if he is weak or unimpressive, when he was able to contend with Silver Surfer and Bor, both of whom are superior to Thor. And Eye of Agamotto is standard equipment for Strange, ******. It's like Thor w/ Mjolnir.
The rest of your post is just absurd and laughable claims that you spammed just to make your post look longer, so I won't bother addressing them.
However, I will say that I find it funny how you dodged another instance where Strange was shown to be superior to Thor, in Avengers #116, where he says he's no match for Strange, and I definitely wouldn't be surprised if you ducked this argument again, using my other paragraphs as concealment. In general, you'll probably duck this, like you ducked Soul, Isk, NIH and other Discord users a few months ago (even me, you still haven't responded to my thorough debunk, you conceded via burden of rejoinder on that one, but still I'm reminding you), mainly because you're scared. Hell, even GodSpeedNinja bodied you yesterday, so yeah, this way too easy.
Comics: Starbrand, Dr Strange, Captain Universe
Long enough to rip him in half
@Sora the reason I say she was amped was because the Russo Gods say she was.
Comics dr strange (forgot about him)
MCU Thor easily
Even if he in . He fail to stop hulk
Strange use all his magic power to stop hulk and he fail after that he ask sofia and amadues to help him to stop hulk
*note that I said Thor and Hulk were equals in order to avoid the legendary argument between the two*
He knows that he can't stop hulk so he ask amadues and sofia to help him . And yeah after that got anger from before and he destroyed much planets
In incredible hulks 2011 number 634#
Strange use all his magic power to stop hulk and he fail after that he ask sofia and amadues to help him to stop hulk
read incredible hulk 634# and say come and sat strange can touch hulk wtf
Comics:Strange
MCU: Scarlet Witch by a long shot.
>can't be me
>can't be me
>can't be me
>can't be me
>can't be me
If you still don't like the fact that Wanda had an emotional amp then tell that to the Russo Brothers, not to me. Note that Kevin Fiege said Wanda "can" beat Thanos not she "will" beat Thanos every time they fight. Also not how the writers have implied that overweight Thor was created to nerf him so other heroes (like bloodlusted, emotionally amped, insane Wanda) could also have a share in taking down Thanos because even the writers know Thanos couldn't stand a chance against full power Thor.
>can't be me
She "will" not beat him, because he's already dead/snapped lmao. She CAN beat him in a hypothetical fight, and SHE WAS ACTUALLY DOING IT. Had it not been for Thanos' entire army, she would have killed him, and the movie, as well as directors and screenwriters confirmed that.
No, he's not really a god, he's an Asgardian, if he was truly a god, he wouldn't be defeated by various other characters who are not gods. He and Asgardians, as well as Olympians etc are just self-procclaimed gods. And don't mention Aaron, he ruined many characters from the Norse mythos in his Thor runs last few years.
If you're not ignoring that scene, you wouldn't have ignored the most crucial part about that scene; Thanos failed. He couldn't slice her open, because 1) She is fast enough to react and 2)She has abilities to defend herself. He never even came close to destroying her force field, in fact, her force field was already cutting his sword open, if you pay close attention, EVEN WITH ONE HAND. She then used her other hand, and it was all over, pretty much. And no, if you're trying to say that he was "tired" or "exhausted" from fighting Thor, Cap and Tony, don't bother lmao, he didn't have a single bruise and he completely fodderized them, not to mention that he has godly stamina which further proves my point of him not being bothered by that fight, physically. And he didn't fight Captain Marvel before he fought Wanda. Thanos would get shitstomped, be it in the end of the movie, the middle or the beginning. The directors and the president himself made it very clear that she can defeat him 1v1, he wouldn't beat her to a bloody pulp, that's just your fanfic. SOOO.... Her eyes were glowing red? And that's why she was amped? Lmao, no. She was just pissed off at him, and then fodderized him, she can do it again, and take the fight 10/10 times. Kevin said the first statement, yes, and it was about the movie, not the characters, so I don't see the correlation. And he never said CM would be strongest CHARACTER, but HERO. Quite debatable, but him saying and just confirming what happened in the movie itself; that is that Wanda can stomp Thanos with ease, is quantifiable and shouldn't be ignored as a valuable piece of evidence.
@Clint nice job m8
@Oblivion thx bud
*Grabs some popcorn and a cup of tea*
Sora out here streamrolling through the 2 of them
@Clint ur right
Erasing the concept of death:
https://imgur.com/RcpeRvw
https://imgur.com/qmVLvyz
https://imgur.com/mZnFG5U
https://imgur.com/Ohlr2BY
https://imgur.com/LxLScUt
altering the entire multiverse just with his sheer size:
https://imgur.com/5m5rFgs
https://imgur.com/34sxDde
destroying parallel dimensions just by standing there:
https://imgur.com/psU7xax
https://imgur.com/AONqi4d
causing multiversal destruction:
https://imgur.com/yeB3lvv
https://imgur.com/0CnaoMP
https://imgur.com/EjPQQLC
defeating every hero and brought death to everything:
https://imgur.com/knFBFQz
https://imgur.com/1jcxH6M
https://imgur.com/eZ6rIdU
still being more powerful than the entire cosmic assembly which includes the Living Tribunal and Eternity: http://imgur.com/5J0XqgG
and millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse including the Tribunal: http://imgur.com/F4KYtNF
Your lack of comic experience there displays nothing but pitiful, infantile, cynical, immature, vapid, vacuous, prejudiced, ignorance. You or your friends can downvote and flag my comment all you want, but it's not gonna do you any good but add on to such ignorance you guys possess. The only evidence you offer to support your claims is just a bunch of feminist comments, links to images showing some sucky hyperboles rather than effort, and your BS claims of reality-warping. Well, lemme tell you something, there are a f**k-ton of other characters with reality-warping powers and abilities that are even better than your little witch-y heroine. You're acting all high and mighty by laughing at what people have to say and claiming to always be right when in reality, you leave the battle page with nothing left to say after literally get destroyed in every debate involving a fight between Scarlet Witch and a stupidly overpowered character.
It's time you woke up form your reality and got a glimpse of the real comic book world. Get mad, sora, cuz you earned the L.
>*Posts a long text about the subject he doesn't care about*
> can't disprove @sora
>makes a battle of himself, Emptyhand, and sora beating me and still considers us friends
>won't get over a mere joke after I apologized and still has me on his favorite which implies we're still friends
>still complains
>is actually testing my patience and is on the brink of being unfriended
I shouldn't even have you on my favorites. Not after your terrible misdemeanors towards others.
"Thor could have taken out a small portion of the army, but definitely not all of them, but he still wouldn't be able to defeat Thanos, because Thanos completely no-sells the lightning strikes from either Stormbreaker or Mjolnir."
Where's your proof that he couldn't do what he did in Wakanda during all the time that he wasn't fighting Thanos?
"He was busy fighting Thanos for nearly entire movie"
You mean cut off Thanos' head in the first act then precede to get destroyed by time displaced Thanos within less than a minute twice then precede to fight in the final battle for like 8 minutes before Wanda went crazy on Thanos?
"Thor could have taken out a small portion of the army, but definitely not all of them"
He could have taken at LEAST half of them with Stormbreaker alone as shown in IF. Add Mjolnir and the cosmic storm within it on top of that and imagine what he could do.
"just when Thanos went to seek the Infinity Gauntlet, to claim to himself, guess who showed up? Wanda. After she completely humiliated him, Thanos asked for an air strike, which took out a vast majority of his own army, so like only 15%, roughly, of the initial numbers stayed on the battlefield"
Thanos spent a full minute at least chasing Black Panther (which was more than enough time for Thor to call an air strike) and then fought Wanda for 30 seconds (which was time for Thor to call in two air strikes) before being held in the air for 14 seconds, then he had his ship fire down on her. Their a bunch of instances where Thor could have called in the air strike if he wanted to but eerily didn't for some reason. And you have yet to prove that his army was "more durable"
"No, he's not really a god, he's an Asgardian"
*Asgardian god of thunder*
"if he was truly a god, he wouldn't be defeated by various other characters who are not gods. He and Asgardians, as well as Olympians etc are just self-procclaimed gods."
1: he only loses to those characters because he holds back against all mortals _Civil War. Including powerhouses like Hulk and Sentry _Incredible Hulk #440 and "god" is just a title like King or Emperor is Darkseid not a god because he's constantly being pushed by by the JL? 2: what do you mean by "are just self-procclaimed gods?"
"And don't mention Aaron he ruined many characters from the Norse mythos in his Thor runs last few years"
Yet you get to use facts from Kevin Feige and get to use the retcon if Wanda's powers to avoid saying Cuthon wills her out of existence. And I'm pretty sure Marvel already destroyed the Norse mythology by 1: Odin not being the war mongering Viking who ripped out his eye for magic and hung himself for runes 2: Thor being more interested in Jane than in Sif 3: Thor and Loki being adoptive brothers 4: Lady Sif not having her Rapunzel level hair 5: Thor becoming the king of Asgard after Odin's death 6: the Asgardians not being friends with the giants 7: Sif not being the goddess of anything while Norse Sif was the Goddess of Fertility 8: etc
"if you're trying to say that he was "tired" or "exhausted" from fighting Thor, Cap and Tony, don't bother lmao, he didn't have a single bruise"
So if I run a mile am I not tired? You're forgetting that he was fighting a 3v1 and fought in the battle for a good 10 minutes before fighting Wanda. So, he might have been a little tired. And he might have been bruised but we didn't see it because he was wearing a bunch of armor and if Ironman can damage Thanos who had five stones at the time then imagine what him, Thor with both Mjolnir and Stormbreaker who was physically equal to him in strength remember Thanos had to use H2H skill to get out of both blade locks with Thor, and Captain America who landed 9 solid hits on him not counting both times he was struck by lightning and all of those hits staggered him.
"not to mention that he has godly stamina which further proves my point of him not being bothered by that fight, physically"
Prove that he has godly stamina in the MCU.
"He never even came close to destroying her force field, in fact, her force field was already cutting his sword open"
Oh, rewatch the scene: Thanos was about to crush her but thanks to the emotional amp (which I've proven she had) she could pick him up and rip off his armor.
"If you pay close attention, EVEN WITH ONE HAND. She then used her other hand, and it was all over, pretty much"
>Imagine thinking mental powers would need hand gestures period
>can't be me. The only reason psychic characters use hand gestures is because it looks cool,
"Her eyes were glowing red? And that's why she was amped? Lmao, no. She was just pissed off at him, and then fodderized him, she can do it again, and take the fight 10/10 times"
I said "that's why her eyes were glowing" PAY ATTENTION @SORA 1: no, the reason I say she was amped was A: common logic and B: the Russos say she was in the commentary. And no Thanos has already slapped her in IF despite the fact that she just destroyed and given what we know about the Infinity Stones that energy had to go somewhere. Where did it go? Into your emotionally unstable psychic Waifu. And in the begin of IF Wanda and Vision were defeated by Thanos' henchmen and had to be saved by Normad and Black Widow; otherwise they would have been toast. So no it factual: had she have not been amped like I'm about to prove Thanos WOULD have smashed her into oblivion.
"Kevin said the first statement, yes, and it was about the movie, not the characters, so I don't see the correlation"
Don't mind Kevin; he lies all the time and contradicts himself and the actual writers like the Russos.
"Wanda can stomp Thanos with ease"
You do have to love this guys crush on Elisabeth Olsen don't you?
2. MCU: Thor