Tiamut is Arguably the strongest Celestial, but as Logos said Celestials are weak and unnecessary. Even fulcrum is featless, but unlike Tiamut he is Kirby's embodiment
1 - Thor
2. rune king thor
3. pre retcon beyonder
4. any form of ghost rider
5.odin
6.Thanos
7.ultron
8.cosmic immortal hulk
9.elder godes of chaos
10.white phoenix of the crown
definitely Batman people act as if Batman can beat anybody including gods like the one above all and Galactus they use this stupid argument that he wins because his name is Batman that's a stupid reason for him to win and that's such a stupid argument for him to win a battle they also think that with prep time he has the ability to take out and beat anybody Batman with prep time can't beat anybody just because he has prep time doesn't automatically mean he has the ability to take out anybody so yeah in my opinion Batman is the most overrated character and he has one of the worst fanboys ever.
1.Dr Manhattan
2.Thanos with Astral regulator
3.Thanos heart of the universe
4.Doomsday
5.Fulcrum
6.Lucifer Morningstar
7.Cosmic immortal hulk
8.True form Darkseid
9.Living tribunal
10.Batman
Saitama is still overrated. His entire VERSE is fodder (oh no, this guy's planet tier, he's too strong)
Let's give a highball: Let's say Saitama was using 0.01% of his full power against the Star tier Boros, he would only be galaxy level at most, nowhere CLOSE to the Universal tier guys that people say he can beat (ex: Superman, Goku, etc)
1. Black cat
2. Dc itself is wanked and ovverated too much.
3. The writer
4. Mcu thanos.
5. Mcu thor
6. Dceu superman
7. Batman
8. The presence
9. Retconn corp tiers.
10. Overvoid
11. Mr. Mxyzpltk
On this site? Rune King Thor, TOBA, Nyx and Vision HOI, Scarlet Witch, Star Wars in general, Batman, Superman, Thor, Hulk, Goku, Odin, Galactus, and Doctor Manhattan.
def not star wars, star wars loses nearly every battle its in because the people on this site wank marvel so hard they worship the verse and start resorting to insults when they are given evidence that marvel gets stomped by star wars
Oh and the star wars characters too, this site oversuperrate those characters to ridiculous levels, like Darth Vader being Galactic.
funny thing is that i never see that kind of wank in any other site.
Saitama is overrated asf in many sites including the big ones like YouTube and Twitter, there is always people saying "heErp derP SaITAmA wOuLD One ShOT MaRvel AnD dC" so how is that character underrated? Lmao.
And no. Nobody in OPM is "Star" level there is no feats or at least statements.
Alucard (Hellsing) is wanked to Nil, where form and meaning surrender to the Overvoid. In other words, Alucard is overrated so badly that form and meaning conceptually cuck themselves into the Overvoid. It's pretty bad.
Azatoth fanboys downvoted this it's proving my point when everyone agrees on something means there are not much fanboys just people overreacting it are the downvotes wich prove if People are biased here
That's just the other way around, bud. The downvotes on your comment there don't agree with you at all while the upvotes on the previous comment that user posted do.
This proves my point. Some people say that the votes don’t matter, others say that they do. Which one is it?? If they don’t matter, then don’t use them as part of your argument. If they do, then stop trivializing them. It’s either one or the other not both.
Jongensoden is right, Rocket Raccoon is overrated especially when people think he or any member of the Guardians of the Galaxy can beat Star Wars characters.
I mean, someone like Groot could beat some Star Wars characters. Then there are some more....unique members like Nova or Adam Warlock. Rocket anyways, could beat someone like Boba Fett given the right situation.
@Dark_Wing and I are pretty chill now. You might still want to order some flowers though. I posted a bunch of stuff on the "Who can beat Thor" forum. SOMEONE BACK ME UP. I can't go on anymore insult sprees.
He is overrated. It is the people that try to put base Batman on the level of Thanos is when it gets bad. I've met many people that actually think he is that strong.
@Mxyzptlk Sometimes he is, cuz people heavily overestimate him for his intellect and preparation. There's really no other way he'd be able to hold his own against the likes of Superman or Wonder Woman if it weren't for those assets.
I've never seen anyone big up Cyclops in battles. To be fair Cyclops would beat Batman because his optic beams aren't just a thin laser anymore they can be as wide as mansions.
It is most interesting that some say Batman is underrated and others say that he is overrated. This debate reminds me of the tv fan battle decades ago between fans of the Lawrence Welk show and fans of The Monkees show.
Why is Empty Hand overrated? Why is Kratos overrated? And why is Featherine overrated? "Spider-Man and Wolverine are overrated" how could you even say that about two of the greatest characters in all of Marvel Comic?
There is literally no one in Marvel that can rival Featherine, neither by feats, hype or dimensional tiering. Her 4th wall breaking and metafiction feats put Mandrakk and Thought Robot to shame.
He is indeed salty. Superpower Beatdown just collected a bunch of votes from Logan fanboys, I do agree that people thinking he can beat Thor/Hulk are dumb but he can sure as heck take a hit from them. And I forgot about those Spider-Man fanboys, I just want everyone to know this: Spider-Man is NOT beating Jean Grey (Phoenix or not), Raven, Hope Summers, Franklin Richards, Starfire etc.
He's pretty close or leading against people like Phoenix, Doctor Strange and Thanos. The latter two have already shown their superiority, and Phoenix is even above them.
Especially the ones that the creators consider actual characters like @MoP and the Varosverse which is really just a game @MoP plays with his friends on discord. Here's something for all those OCs are actual literature characters people: ask any higher tier company like Marvel, DC, Image, Vertigo, etc and they all agree with my statement that it's just a game kids play on discord.
Goku (he's powerful but no where near the level that some idiots put him on, and he'll get utterly stopped by magic or cosmic level reality warpers)
Hulk (he's powerful but no where near the level that some idiots put him on, and he'll get utterly stopped by magic or cosmic level reality warpers)
The Flash (people say he stomps Superman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern, all of which have tagged him on multiple occasions)
Luke Skywalker (some people are dumb enough to think because he beat a very heavily suppressed Vader with a Dark Side amp he could beat Anakin, Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, or General Grievous)
Godzilla/Cthulhu/King Kong (people say they can beat characters like Galactus and Darkseid)
Saitama (he isn't even a solar system buster yet people say he can beat Superman or Goku)
Silver Surfer (people vote him over characters like Phoenix Jean Grey, Dr Strange, and Thor despite the fact that Thor beat Surfer in every fight they've had in Earth 616 canon)
Cosmic Armor Superman (they say he can adapt to literally ANYTHING)
TOAA (people continue thinking he's omnipotent despite being proven wrong)
The Presence (people continue thinking he's omnipotent despite being proven wrong)
Wolverine/Deadpool/Lobo (people overrate these three because they can't die despite the fact that you don't even have to kill your opponent to win a vs match)
@Dark_Wing I personally don't think Spidey and Black Panther are overrated, but I do agree with your list :), however, I think 80% of the people you listed are also HEAVILY underrated by a few. Hulk and Silver Surfer to be specific (even though they're also highly exaggerated, some saying Surfer can beat Thanos, Darkseid, or even his own master Galactus...smh).
2 - Rune King Thor
3 - Tiamut
2. Cosmic Armor Superman
3. Mandrakk
4. Rune King Thor
5. Beyonder
6. Lucifer Morningstar
7. Ghost Rider (all version)
8. TOBA Hulk
9. Thanos (AR, HOTU)
10. Darkseid (True Form, Infinite Frontier, Soulfire)
2. rune king thor
3. pre retcon beyonder
4. any form of ghost rider
5.odin
6.Thanos
7.ultron
8.cosmic immortal hulk
9.elder godes of chaos
10.white phoenix of the crown
Goku
Saitama
Lucifer morningstar
Goku
Anos voldigoad
Ar thanos
Cosmic armor Superman
2-Toba Hulk
3-Doctor Fate(Nabu)
4-Astral Regulator Thanos
5-PR Beyonder
6-Thor
7-Trigon
8-Godspawn
9-Batman with prep
10-Sentry(Merged with void)
2.Thanos with Astral regulator
3.Thanos heart of the universe
4.Doomsday
5.Fulcrum
6.Lucifer Morningstar
7.Cosmic immortal hulk
8.True form Darkseid
9.Living tribunal
10.Batman
2. Lucifer Morningstar
3 .Lucifer Morningstar
4. Lucifer Morningstar
5. OCs Original characters
No.
No.
No.
And Hell No.
>gets wanked to multiversal - outerversal
>dbz only consists of 12 universes/12 different timelines
Maybe.
Yes.
The Power Level is Too Much
Hoi
Black cat
agreed
agreed
No
Agree
Maybe.
I have no comment about her.
2. Odin
3. Flash
4. Lucifer Morningstar
5. Thor
Not at all
No
Yes a little bit
Nah
Maybe.
No.
No.
No.
2.the writer
3.lucifer Morningstar
Yes.
No.
Let's give a highball: Let's say Saitama was using 0.01% of his full power against the Star tier Boros, he would only be galaxy level at most, nowhere CLOSE to the Universal tier guys that people say he can beat (ex: Superman, Goku, etc)
2.Scarlet witch
3.Deadpool
4.Batman with prep
5.Doomsday
6.Mcu Captain marvel
7.Jane Foster
2. Dc itself is wanked and ovverated too much.
3. The writer
4. Mcu thanos.
5. Mcu thor
6. Dceu superman
7. Batman
8. The presence
9. Retconn corp tiers.
10. Overvoid
11. Mr. Mxyzpltk
funny thing is that i never see that kind of wank in any other site.
1-Saitama
2-Goku
3-Batman
4-Superman
5-Carol Danvers
Back in 2010: every DB character.
and it looks like current writers are wanking her too.
And no. Nobody in OPM is "Star" level there is no feats or at least statements.
2. Odin
3. Saitama
4. Doctor Fate
5. Thanos (Infinity Gauntlet)
And why Odin?
2) Iron Man
3) Thanos
4) Thor
5) Batman (People would probably consider Batman would beat Lucifer with PrEp TiMe
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Thor.
Also batman obviously.
Dio Over Wank
FodderSama
FodderLama
Fodder X
1) Superman/Scarlet Witch
The Flash
Scarlet Witch
Cosmic Armour Superman
Superman
comment has more upvotes than yours.
Luke Skywalker, Spider Man, Batman, Baby Yoda, Scarlet witch, MCU Iron Man (Before using the Infinity gauntlet), and Thanos.
Scarlet Witch
Cosmic Armour Superman
Superman/Thor
2. Saitama
3. Superman
4. Goku
5. Thor
6. Darkseid
7. Deadpool
8. Wolverine
9. Kratos
10. Sentry
Thanks for admitting he's not overrated!
2. Characters that get too much attention and credit than they actually deserve.
Klyntars (Marvel Universe) vs. all the Jedis from Star Wars, even the deceased ones. All fight at the same time.
Who wins?
2.) Hulk
3.) Captain Marvel
4.) Son Goku
2. Superman
3. Spider-Man
4. Wonder Woman
5. Deadpool
For elaine and wanda, No u
Also Joe: *downvotes*
Goku (he's powerful but no where near the level that some idiots put him on, and he'll get utterly stopped by magic or cosmic level reality warpers)
Hulk (he's powerful but no where near the level that some idiots put him on, and he'll get utterly stopped by magic or cosmic level reality warpers)
The Flash (people say he stomps Superman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern, all of which have tagged him on multiple occasions)
Luke Skywalker (some people are dumb enough to think because he beat a very heavily suppressed Vader with a Dark Side amp he could beat Anakin, Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, or General Grievous)
Godzilla/Cthulhu/King Kong (people say they can beat characters like Galactus and Darkseid)
Saitama (he isn't even a solar system buster yet people say he can beat Superman or Goku)
Silver Surfer (people vote him over characters like Phoenix Jean Grey, Dr Strange, and Thor despite the fact that Thor beat Surfer in every fight they've had in Earth 616 canon)
Cosmic Armor Superman (they say he can adapt to literally ANYTHING)
TOAA (people continue thinking he's omnipotent despite being proven wrong)
The Presence (people continue thinking he's omnipotent despite being proven wrong)
Wolverine/Deadpool/Lobo (people overrate these three because they can't die despite the fact that you don't even have to kill your opponent to win a vs match)