Sticky We have Wildstorm as publisher, Earth-50 (Wildstorm Universe) part of DC and lots of Wildstorm characters in prime-DC universe. This has led to a lot of duplicate characters.
My suggestion is deleting Wildstorm as publisher and move all comic characters to Earth-50 (Wildstorm Universe), series characters (Supernatural) to new publisher (CW) and Games character (God of War) to Sony.
I know Wildstorm has comics for all those series and games but these characters are not originally belong to Wildstorm.
I think this is the best way.
Any idea? @Galactus This involves lots of characters and deleting and adding publishers. so I need your approval too.
I'm going to abbreviate universe with long name and add title for universes without title. So maybe the names of some universes will change when requesting characters.
Note that when you request a universe, fill in both the name and title fields, but use the abbreviation for the name.
This is the last chance for anyone want to contribute fixing transformers universes. After that if I change universe name or set lots of character for deleting, don't complain.
1- I want to fix publisher: between Hasbro and IDW. Comic version, Movie version and animation version should be in which one?
2- The main version should be which version?
1. Hasbro owns Transformers and had IDW make comics for them like Marvel before them. Ultimately Hasbro should always be the publisher, but you could also do shows/movies = Hasbro, comics = IDW (although I think this relationship is ending).
2. Generation One should be the main version, as that's the original.
Hasbro created in a attempt to streamlined ended up fusing the majority of previous iterations creating the Aligned continuity,however IDWs comics run separate from this and aren't considered with the Aligned multiverse.
@Ezio I would say we should keep both. The former should probably be in a universe entitled Transformers IDW or IDW Transformers as it is its own series that ran for 14 years.
I changed these universes name based on new DC naming:
DCeased to earth 55
DC vs. Vampires to earth 63
The Dakotaverse to earth 93
DC Super Hero Girls to earth 96
Dark Knights of Steel to earth 118
Super Friends to earth 1956
and @Galactus if you agree I want to combine Donnerverse and the Burtonverse as earth 789.
Which mod or editor upvoted "Shadowverse" on request list?
The description literally says " I created the universe and me OC's were created by me to go into the Shadowverse". and you upvoted this!!
Pay more attention before put your hand on "upvote" from the beginning to the end of the list.
I want to add characters from Rings of power, These characters are made for series, so they aren't made by J. R. R. Tolkien. I start with : Arondir, Bronwyn, Durin IV.
@Tigerking2020 This is just explaining how it is all calculated. Nothing has changed in this calculation for over 2 years or so. Can't remember exactly when it was introduced.
I am afraid this laudable undertaking is a Sisyphus task, and is the reason I suggested to remove stats and/or super powers altogether.
The moment you remove Data Manipulation and Information Manipulation (whatever the difference between this powers is), this super powers will be (automatically) assigned to countless other characers...
If you see a universe that did not have a title, especially when you request a character, but the name of that universe is not visible in front of it after the request, tell me so that I can add its title.
We have lots of elements control on the site, I think some of them overlap or are subsets of each other. In your opinion, which of the following three solutions is the most suitable?
1- Keep only 4 main element control: air, water, earth and fire + element control and delete others like wood, metal,...
2- Delete main element control: air, water, earth and fire and use more specific titles like wood, metal, wind, gas, acid, soil, rock, Magma, Steam, Flame, Ice...
3-The current system is good.
I'm fine with how the system is now. That being said, if I had to pick between 1 & 2, I'd pick 2. I'd rather have room for more nuance than go so broad as 1 is.
The general powers should be split up. Just like I did with 'Enhanced Senses' -> Enhanced Sight, Hearing, etc.
There is Element Control, that should be split up. It says 'Sand Control', yet Sandman doesn't have it, so in this case 'Sand Control' should be added. Also 'Terrakinesis' sounds just like the same thing.
@Galactus We have do something about Duplicate powers too. like Magma Manipulation and Lava Manipulation, air and wind control. Absorption and Energy Absorption or Absolute Condition and all Omni powers.
@Ezio It's all about how's approving the new powers (or items, etc.). They need to check if the power already exists.You seem to have approved Air Control while Wind Control had been in the DB from the start. Nothing against you personally, that just happens.
How can we make it so, this happens less often? Or not at all.
@Galactus As soon as I confirmed Air Control, I realized that it is a duplicate. I have requested to delete it several times by now. if you You provide a simpler way so that items other than characters can also be placed for deletion (of course, with stricter regulations than characters) we can reach a suitable situation and after that one voted approval of superpowers and universes can be removed even for heralds so that at least two votes be needed.
As soon as powers have characters connected to them, it was a bit of a pain to remove them. I do, now, have a nice way to remove them and add them to the 'duplicate' power.
I will move the afore mentioned characters' powers.
I rather have a better approval system than a better removal system. Any ideas on how that could work?
1 Athlete / Peak Human / Superhuman / Building
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Planetary / Star
5 Galactic / Multi-Galactic
6 Universal / Multi-Universal
7 Multiversal / Complex Multiversal
8 Hyperversal
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal
What do you think about this tiering?
-- This is what it is now (Galactus) --
0 Human
1 Athlete / Peak Human / Superhuman / Building
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Planetary / Star
5 Solar Systemic / Galactic
6 Multi-Galactic / Universal
7 Multi-Universal / Multiversal
8 Complex Multiversal / Hyperversal
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal
@Ezio Wanted to say you know how durability 40 is missing? Shouldn't the 40 be radiation resistance? Because after a nuclear explosion the radiation is the aftermath. Just a thought.
To be honest, I always found the tiers to be too vague. A country can be smaller than an Island, a Star can be bigger that a Star System, etc. And some of those names, what do they even mean? I get multiversal, but beyond that... no clue, really. What is the difference between Hyperversal and Outerversal?
I know I once approved this back in the day @DarkProdigy was still around, but I don't know enough about the matter to make a clear decission. As long as it gets clearer, and not too much work in editing a ton of characters again, I guess I'm ok with changing things.
I'm also open to completely replace the current Tiering system for something different. Something less open for interpretation.
I would change the tiering like this:
0 Human
1 Athlete / Peak Human
2 Superhuman / Building
3 Island / Mountain
4 Country / Continent
5 Planetary / Star
6 Galactic / Multi-Galactic
7 Universal
8 Multi-Universal / Multiversal
9 Complex-Multiverse / Hyperversal
10 Outerversal
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I think the difference between athlete / peak human and superhuman / building should be more relevant than the higher tierings which lack concrete definitions anyways.
There is another huge change I think about, Our DC's prime earth use for characters after Crisis on Infinite Earths but DC prime-earth universe start with new-52 to rebirth. We have separate universe for new-52, rebirth and Death Metal so all prime-earth universe already is covered. We have pre-crisis universe too. My suggestions is change Prime Earth name to New-Earth which use for after Crisis on Infinite Earths until Flashpoint.
I never really understood all those (newer) Universes of DC. It's a mess. Some only existed for a couple of years before it all got rebooted again.
I'll look into this later.
@Ezio I've been reading up on Wildstorm a bit. It's a complicated thing. I think we still need Wildstorm as a publisher for characters that are not part of a DC Comics verse. If I understand correctly, ThunderCats are not part of any DC universe.
All characters from the list below should be part of the Earth-50 universe:
WildC.A.T.s
Stormwatch
The Authority
Wetworks
Gen¹³
Dv8
Team 7
If the licensed titles (God of War, Friday the 13th, etc.) are a continuation of their orignals, there shouldn't be a separate profile for those characters, since it's the same character.
If they are separate works, then it should have its own universe, probably under the Wildstorm publisher.
'Publisher' isn't always the best way to group things. And also not always the correct naming (sometimes it's a creator). So, it could get a bit confusing.
This isn't how it SHOULD be, this is my thought on the matter. Let me know what you think.
I agree with you.
1- If you add CW as publisher we can have Supernatural and other CW series character there.
2- move all God of War character to Sony
3- I remove duplicate profile between Wildstorm publisher and Earth-50.
When I add the CW, are we going to put all shows (universes) under it? The Arrowverse now has DC as 'publisher' (again; not the correct term), that seems the most logical, right? It's a few seconds work to switch it, so it's not a huge deal.
I'm not sure about Arrowverse, because Lucifer is part of it too and it is originally from FOX and Netflix but Vampire Diaries and smallville can be part of it too.
It's called Super Hero Database, not Average Joe Database.
Joking aside; if Banner gets his own profile, we also need a Tony Stark, Clark Kent, etc. I don't see the point of those.
@Ezio and @MoNsTeR
I've added an option for you to add Verses to movies. (Deleting a Verse is not an option yet, just ask me if you made a mistake)
I will also explain in a private comment how to add movies.
@masterking3 Looking great, but all are already connected to the right Universe. @Ezio, what was the point? Or did you connect them all manually? In that case; awesome work!
If you have a collection that includes all the characters of a universe which that universe does not exist on the site or if there is a universe, those characters are not assigned to that universe, tell me to fix them.
He is a character from a sitcom. I don't think sitcom characters need to be here. Unless something Sci-fi or mystical stuff is involved in the story of that sitcom.
@Ezio yes bro this is the comic i was talking about superman batman didn't become vampires at all now next issue maybe they become vampires... Only 2 issues out now
There is two Gandalf Profile. They are based on film and gray and white versions. Some users think that the white version is related to before he came to Middle-earth. I do not know exactly how similar the two white versions are. Tell if anyone has an explanation or comment.
I believe They can be Publishers and Versions at the same time. If they created any original content for those they can be as publishers. But if they make content from books and games etc. In that case the characters of those content should have Netfilx, Amazon etc. As Version.
For instance amazon has made series Foundation , Wheel Of Time. Thses are based on novels. I don't think they should be publishers for them. Also Netfilx made Witcher. Also for that netfilx would be version.
Again they have content that they created and which didn't exist in any other media before. So i think we can actually have them and publishers.
But users need to be made aware about which characters/objects etc. can have them as publisher and which should have them as versions. It would matter while requesting items.
This is my opinion about this matter.
If anyone is completely familiar with the Transformers verse and can categorize its characters in existing universes and publishers, please make a collection for each one and send it to me so that I can arrange them all.
Yes @UnusOf2029 but it is a superhero database. Pesky blinders aren't exactly superheroes. Although there are some characters here that aren't superheroes. But scifi movies and show character should be here. Spies, vigilantes are allowed. Pesky blinders don't fall into that category. Also if we allow it then there are several other TV shows like it that we can add. With that being said we need more opinions from other people to come toa dicision.
from what I read they're gangsters & we have other people on the Db who are neither that you've listed & honestly I feel like this place has evolved into more of a fictional character database rather than solely superheros/villians
Fat and gladiator versions are quite popular. For me the unworthy version is the least popular. Not saying that we should delete that . I belive we should keep all the versions.
Gladiator version is straight up just an outfit. That should definitely be deleted. Personally I think Fat Thor should be deleted too. Besides appearance nothing is different about him.
Fat Thor is different, he's out of shape and wields both Stormbreaker and Mjolnir. Gladiator wields neither. I just think Pre-Ragnarok should just be base and the current Base Thor should be Thor (Stormbreaker).
My suggestion is deleting Wildstorm as publisher and move all comic characters to Earth-50 (Wildstorm Universe), series characters (Supernatural) to new publisher (CW) and Games character (God of War) to Sony.
I know Wildstorm has comics for all those series and games but these characters are not originally belong to Wildstorm.
I think this is the best way.
Any idea?
@Galactus This involves lots of characters and deleting and adding publishers. so I need your approval too.
if yes, should I add these
as characters or weapons?
Is this
Kenny, a Gatlian. He belongs to a race of living weapons that resemble talking guns.
A character or weapon?
it's about football i watched 2 episodes and soo far i really like it
@Ezio
i want your opinions
Maybe they can do more than just kick a ball?
Note that when you request a universe, fill in both the name and title fields, but use the abbreviation for the name.
1- I want to fix publisher: between Hasbro and IDW. Comic version, Movie version and animation version should be in which one?
2- The main version should be which version?
2. Generation One should be the main version, as that's the original.
Shockwave (Shockwave)
Shockwave (IDW)
Shockwave (Regenesis) (Shockwave)
DCeased to earth 55
DC vs. Vampires to earth 63
The Dakotaverse to earth 93
DC Super Hero Girls to earth 96
Dark Knights of Steel to earth 118
Super Friends to earth 1956
and @Galactus if you agree I want to combine Donnerverse and the Burtonverse as earth 789.
upvote yes/downvote no
Yes or No?
Rocky
G.I Joe Film
Addams Family
RoboCop
The Pink Panther movies
Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters
The Magnificent Seven
to
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
AI
The description literally says " I created the universe and me OC's were created by me to go into the Shadowverse". and you upvoted this!!
Pay more attention before put your hand on "upvote" from the beginning to the end of the list.
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I asked this because of this guy:
Pain and Panic from Hercules
The Class Tier system works as follows:
( INT^1.3 + (STR*0.5 )^2 + (SPE*0.5)^2 + DUR^1.6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1.8 ) ^ TIER
The Tier values are:
Tier 0: 1
Tier 1: 1.08
Tier 2: 1.166
Tier 3: 1.26
Tier 4: 1.361
Tier 5: 1.47
Tier 6: 1.587
Tier 7: 1.714
Tier 8: 1.851
Tier 9: 2
Tier 10: 2.15
The moment you remove Data Manipulation and Information Manipulation (whatever the difference between this powers is), this super powers will be (automatically) assigned to countless other characers...
Beyond Oasis Universe https://www.superherodb.com/beyond-oasis/900-2152/
Vicky the Viking Universe https://www.superherodb.com/vicky/900-2079/
Black Clover Universe https://www.superherodb.com/black-clover/900-1268/
Deadman Wonderland Universe https://www.superherodb.com/deadman-wonderland/900-1234/
Overlord Universe https://www.superherodb.com/overlord-universe/900-1227/
Alundra Universe https://www.superherodb.com/alundra-universe/900-1194/
D-Gray-man Universe https://www.superherodb.com/dgray-man-universe/900-1192/
Pandora Hearts Universe https://www.superherodb.com/pandora-hearts-universe/900-1190/
Ranma Universe https://www.superherodb.com/ranma-verse/900-1189/
Seraph of the End Universe https://www.superherodb.com/seraph-of-the-end-universe/900-1188/
Slayers Universe https://www.superherodb.com/slayers-universe/900-1186/
Seven Deadly Sins Universe https://www.superherodb.com/seven-deadly-sins-universe/900-1187/
Breath of Fire Universe https://www.superherodb.com/breath-of-fire-universe/900-1178/
Magi Universe https://www.superherodb.com/magi-universe/900-1177/
Suikoden Universe https://www.superherodb.com/suikoden-universe/900-1175/
Star Ocean Universe https://www.superherodb.com/star-ocean-universe/900-1176/
Fushigi YΕ«gi Universe https://www.superherodb.com/fushigi-ygi-universe/900-1173/
Flame of Recca Universe https://www.superherodb.com/flame-of-recca-universe/900-1172/
Diablo Universe https://www.superherodb.com/diablo/900-1170/
07-Ghost Universe https://www.superherodb.com/07-ghost-universe/900-1169/
Shaman King Universe https://www.superherodb.com/shaman-king-verse/900-1166/
Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac Universe https://www.superherodb.com/saint-seiya-verse/900-1165/
Nabari no Ε Universe https://www.superherodb.com/nabari-no-universe/900-1163/
Magic Knight Rayearth Universe https://www.superherodb.com/magic-knight-rayearth-universe/900-1162/
Inuyasha Universe https://www.superherodb.com/inuyashaverse/900-1161/
Fairy Tail Universe https://www.superherodb.com/fairy-tail-verse/900-1094/
Bleach is also missing the name: https://www.superherodb.com/bleach/900-1041/
I already informed @Shit, @PooP and @Poopybuttholeyyyyyy.
1- Keep only 4 main element control: air, water, earth and fire + element control and delete others like wood, metal,...
2- Delete main element control: air, water, earth and fire and use more specific titles like wood, metal, wind, gas, acid, soil, rock, Magma, Steam, Flame, Ice...
3-The current system is good.
There is Element Control, that should be split up. It says 'Sand Control', yet Sandman doesn't have it, so in this case 'Sand Control' should be added. Also 'Terrakinesis' sounds just like the same thing.
Splitting things up makes it more flexible.
How can we make it so, this happens less often? Or not at all.
I will move the afore mentioned characters' powers.
I rather have a better approval system than a better removal system. Any ideas on how that could work?
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Planetary / Star
5 Galactic / Multi-Galactic
6 Universal / Multi-Universal
7 Multiversal / Complex Multiversal
8 Hyperversal
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal
What do you think about this tiering?
-- This is what it is now (Galactus) --
0 Human
1 Athlete / Peak Human / Superhuman / Building
2 Island / Mountain
3 Country / Continent
4 Planetary / Star
5 Solar Systemic / Galactic
6 Multi-Galactic / Universal
7 Multi-Universal / Multiversal
8 Complex Multiversal / Hyperversal
9 Outerversal
10 Omniversal
I know I once approved this back in the day @DarkProdigy was still around, but I don't know enough about the matter to make a clear decission. As long as it gets clearer, and not too much work in editing a ton of characters again, I guess I'm ok with changing things.
I'm also open to completely replace the current Tiering system for something different. Something less open for interpretation.
0 Human
1 Athlete / Peak Human
2 Superhuman / Building
3 Island / Mountain
4 Country / Continent
5 Planetary / Star
6 Galactic / Multi-Galactic
7 Universal
8 Multi-Universal / Multiversal
9 Complex-Multiverse / Hyperversal
10 Outerversal
-
I think the difference between athlete / peak human and superhuman / building should be more relevant than the higher tierings which lack concrete definitions anyways.
Flubber
I'll look into this later.
All characters from the list below should be part of the Earth-50 universe:
WildC.A.T.s
Stormwatch
The Authority
Wetworks
Gen¹³
Dv8
Team 7
If the licensed titles (God of War, Friday the 13th, etc.) are a continuation of their orignals, there shouldn't be a separate profile for those characters, since it's the same character.
If they are separate works, then it should have its own universe, probably under the Wildstorm publisher.
'Publisher' isn't always the best way to group things. And also not always the correct naming (sometimes it's a creator). So, it could get a bit confusing.
This isn't how it SHOULD be, this is my thought on the matter. Let me know what you think.
1- If you add CW as publisher we can have Supernatural and other CW series character there.
2- move all God of War character to Sony
3- I remove duplicate profile between Wildstorm publisher and Earth-50.
π or π
Joking aside; if Banner gets his own profile, we also need a Tony Stark, Clark Kent, etc. I don't see the point of those.
π or π
His comic is much darker than the cartoon and movie.
I've added an option for you to add Verses to movies. (Deleting a Verse is not an option yet, just ask me if you made a mistake)
I will also explain in a private comment how to add movies.
yes: upvote
No: comment
πor π
apparently She has only one appearance in Harley Quinn Vol 1 10 2001.
Do we need her?
https://www.superherodb.com/iron-cat/10-46002/
Is he different from Lucifer Morningstar?
For instance amazon has made series Foundation , Wheel Of Time. Thses are based on novels. I don't think they should be publishers for them. Also Netfilx made Witcher. Also for that netfilx would be version.
Again they have content that they created and which didn't exist in any other media before. So i think we can actually have them and publishers.
But users need to be made aware about which characters/objects etc. can have them as publisher and which should have them as versions. It would matter while requesting items.
This is my opinion about this matter.
Optimus Prime
Optimus Prime (2.0)
Optimus Prime (Alternity)
Mickey Mouse
King Mickey
Super Mickey
king mickey is his king of hearts counterpart.
super mickey is a no though.
Already they are five:
Thor, Thor (Gladiator), Unworthy Thor, BThor (Pre-Ragnarok), Fat Thor
Opinion?
they're really unimportant