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ManofPower
35 months member
The new users, the way the site is ran... It isn't how it was when I joined... As much as I hate to say it, SHDB has made a turn for the worst...
Mr_Incognito
19 months member
The Writer No he isn't. It's just how he chooses to act. He's only "bound" by them if he wants to write them that way, but even then he isn't actually bound to them.
Mr_Incognito
19 months member
The Writer If "traditional standards of evidence" means doing everything you possibly can to twist information to fit your own narrative, then sure. Ok, and there are plenty who agree with me. There isn't safety for you in numbers.

Uh, it is an actual thing. Look at the interview where it's clearly stated that the overvoid was written on against its will. The Writer just showed up in limbo, big deal. All of the supposed contradictions you've brought up are because the writer literally wrote them to happen. Him getting attacked by that werewolf? He wrote on his typewriter for it to happen first. Him being written by others? He wrote himself into a story that HE created, in which he was controlled.
AkhilPDX
52 months member
The One-Above-All And yet he's bound by his own stories.
AkhilPDX
52 months member
The One-Above-All "My standards of evidence" are actually built on traditional standards of evidence. Asking for noncontradictory yet feesible evidence that actually CONNECTS to the text isn't much. It's also not like I'm the only user in existence that disagrees with your stats for the Writer. There are several others and the logic used is quite similar.

"The Writer" that is responsible for all of DC isn't an actual thing referenced in DC stories. The Writer shown and referenced is Grant Morrison and no one else which he even says.
ManofPower
35 months member
I feel old as fck now... I was born in 2004 XD
ManofPower
35 months member
Thanos (Astral Regulator) I hate to say this but @SMPLegendary your statements are not argued properly... at all. You're using no limit fallacies, false omnipotence, name fallacies and are not completely understanding how powerscaling works in fictional verses.

You're trying to have "Infinity" as the cap of power A.K.A Omnipotence, or at least from what I read, you must not know that infinity is low-key garbage without context. It can be 3-D Infinity, 4-D Infinity, 5-D Infinity. Infinity is not how large you can go. Even real world math proves this as fact. https://www.science.org.au/curious/space-time/beyond-infinity
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System
Read the link above to help you out with dimensional scaling, so incidents like this does not happen again.
And @AkhilPDX's comment above is correct.
Omniverses is "ALL things existent in any dimension and universe in the entirety of what is."
You are confusing an Omniverse with a Multiverse, and even then. There are finite and infinite multiverses and universes. It's confusing, I know. But you just have to research dimensional scaling better. So you don't misunderstand these things anymore.
Ra
4 months member
1.One Above All
2.Heart of the universe Thanos
3.One Below All
4.Pre Retcon Beyonder
5.Beyonders/God Emperor Doom
6.Molecule Man
7.Protege
8.Living Tribunal
9.Phoenix
10.Galactus
Mr_Incognito
19 months member
The Writer He's the one who writes the stories on the overvoid, GM himself stated this in an interview. A writer is not limited by the stories they create.
Mr_Incognito
19 months member
The Writer In order for a character's stats to be changed, they shouldn't have to always be run by you or conform to your standards of evidence. You shouldn't have a stats monopoly on all of the characters.This character does not represent only Grant Morrison, but every writer in DC history, as "The Writer" was the entity responsible for the creation of DC Comics within Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, as shown in Final Crisis. Grant Morrison just happens to be the form taken by this being when he made his appearence in Animal Man.
ManofPower
35 months member
Thanos (Astral Regulator) So we have a wanker here... Christ...
AkhilPDX
52 months member
Orion I'm so confused.
AkhilPDX
52 months member
Thanos (Astral Regulator) It doesn't matter if YOU want to scale him to omnipotent. That would be wank.
1. Death of the Author
2. Hyperbole
3. Being a god doesn't make you omnipotent.

What words are you even talking about? Death of the Author?

Eru is not omnipotent simply because Tolkien believed in a higher power. That's not even how things work. They're unrelated.

Stop pinging me every message. I get a notification for a single ping. I don't need 3+ for a single refute.

Cosmology requires proof so it's not like you'd have no evidence if you use it. If you don't and rely on vague definitions, hyperbole, and fallacious arguments, well, that's on you. Your scaling isn't going to be accepted here or on any other site so you might as well stop now with that attitude.

"Infinite reality" can mean an infinite sized universe or an infinite multiverse. In order to differentiate, you need dimensional tiering. You need cosmology. If cosmology doesn't apply to that verse, I'm sorry but all that would prove is that it isn't as strong as you're making it out to be. "Beyond" the universe means very little without cosmology and dimensional tiering. Uni+? Multi+? We can't tell without it, can we now?
AkhilPDX
52 months member
Team Beyonder I'm not the only one who disagrees with your scaling. I merely edit the profiles I'm allowed to edit and if you can't meet the website's standards for a specific tier, it doesn't reflect on everyone else. However, your behavior does reflect back on you.

Some of my favorite characters sadly don't even reach planetary. That doesn't mean I'm out there wanking them to multiversal or something. Literally chill before you're muted.
vonKonigsberg
45 months member
Godzilla Earth MG can't even scratch Earth
SSpiderGwen
4 months member
Enough about Shrek it's getting tiring.
CosmicKingThor
4 months member
The One-Above-All & The One Below All Why not @R165 your scaling is beyond logics
CosmicKingThor
4 months member
Vision (House Of Ideas) Well someone downvote me and @Savage another time
CosmicKingThor
4 months member
Vision (House Of Ideas) Now for Presence
1.he killed by Gabriel
2.even Lucifer can escape from the plan of Presence
3.even Elaine can hide things from presence
4.he is limited by the overvoid
5.he is not omnipotent he is shaped by some external forces which is the believe of people
SMPLegendary
1 months member
Melkor (True Form) Melkor 1 shots without trying
Ti
13 months member
Prime Alien X is still nerfed on this site though, he should be farther away from this version as possible in terms of power. On his profile I did notice some powers missing and powers on there he doesn't have.
Alien_X
12 months member
Agreed. They absolutely nerfed everyone.
Ti
13 months member
Agreed, it's understandable why he was weak in this. If they used the classic version, he would've easily ended the reboot continuity the moment he would step foot there. It be good honestly because the reboot was a disappointment.
RandomName123
3 months member
Ghost Rider Umm..
Yea.. i mean..
Zarathos IS inside ghost rider so.. when he came out
Its over...
RandomName123
3 months member
Ghost Rider Wonder woman and Superman : You cant defeat us.
Johnny : No i know.. But he can
*Zarathos*
Last edited: 19 d ago.
Pe
0 months member
@r165 it's not even top 20
Alien_X
12 months member
Just like literally every character, the Reboot did Alien X dirty.
SMPLegendary
1 months member
Team Melkor (True Form) @Savage well its cuz Akhil's downgrading characters angering other people. He just can't accept the fact that there's a lot of people thinking that other universes beats all his favourite characters.
RandomName123
3 months member
Ghost Rider Superman : You can't defeat me.
Johnny Blaze : No I Know.. but he can..
*Zarathos*
SMPLegendary
1 months member
Melkor (True Form) @Savage even if omniverses are infinite in size as well, I still have proof that he beats TOAA.
SMPLegendary
1 months member
Melkor (True Form) @Savage LOTR is a verse that has no limits. Timeless halls and Eä(All that is) is infinite in size. Omniverses aren't tho, its just a lot of universes.
shaneherald
16 months member
not voted How he is the starbrand Supreme
UnusOf2029
2 months member
not voted Can Hermy react to bullets?
Pe
0 months member
and, my friend, if you are going to use her argument to exist in all Universes, you have to remember that these Yggdrasil are roots. Outside that the gods that are in each universe are avatars created by their true forms, which are covered by the tree.
Pe
0 months member
@savage There is no basis for you to place Yggdrasil as younger than the earth, not least because Yggdrasil encompasses Earthland / 616 / midgard, as it is said in Deadpool V Gambit.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/BxdoLaydyNC7WocM-yCTyUiU5-KD5V_RbWlavg0Gmqj3iauKnk-usem354yckZ9mNnc-uNermTRf=s0

Also this, the norns says that the gods exists in a time before time, and this time os when nothing exists, as they Said "the gods... Burst from the NON-BEING" the non-being (oblivion), as we know, is an oposite to the being (eternity) already the being is the existence, and non-being the inexistence (oblivion has Said this in Ice Man comic book, is not only association to the parmenidian thought), also the norns are the roots of the Yggdrasil according is said in king thor #4, and according is quoted, the norns started to exist starting the existence of gods. The norns itselfs writes the God stories.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/cAUQUA2vGTqiFlSfgsJ4WyVwOrqDdciDGOd02uC3p0nfqpptw2-AvDrVQ5xJfGlOtj1taaIx9jBiMw=s0

*Norns

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/GepLs9aljcrj_tRB049bdaWKM1uPVlDE8y4mPvUFkYAqgrJP34q8BuyTJ-IfkKuau0mXk-_Vqp8nsOXD_Ji5n17kF4YjDyIsoL3vsRCr2pXBjNSt1qTDWRdGKS8O8sBSVJ7rHQByyQ=s0

furthermore, in the mighty Thor comic book, it is again said that the Yggdrasil (seed) existed in a time before time, and as said in Thor season one, that time is oblivion. It makes no sense for you to state (probably based on Thor's first comics, more precisely in the Nordic tales, when odin sealing surtur and planting the Yggdrasil avatar on earth) because there are several, and several comics that prove what I say. In the same comic book it is said that the seed is the oldest thing in existence, and that when everything is destroyed, it recreates all existence. And also in the same comic book it says that Yggdrasil covers space-time, this alone proves that it cannot be younger than the earth.

* * Important detail: In the comic book HOTMU, what destroyed all existence was a collision with something that contained all matter and energy, this also proves that the seed existed before the 7th, 8th cosmos. Since odin mentions that the destruction of existence was by energy and matter.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/tdvXn2AI6fl9B13Vlhua881qdiAmWaNxNsnlkYJIDOQt98eJ64KwmTA5axSgr6wRe65hn4dfYrt_amc3jdDeY_sUEN_7cQvcF2plSsxftVJK-zIkTevGxsNwInVp0wMoKJYUyWtsbQ=s0

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/OZjxBOgvJgu_kR13hADZK2n6H8pew_cqR2QPYB3NfSIt0_epcHy4bGjN5GKVMWHX099rx_5i2X0t=s0

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/I-G7hEVyjlxrJt9yPlNs9npLgKwT3zvg7Lk0elKiAHOfXX_Z2gTGtsyhTD_ZKbI1OZfG7cFajgR7=s0

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/jG1fQdkT-QVydkmNeB-kdXeWx6WdcuxPgssYRakTFkoDaK70-6NLF2lnf4BzzSzX-pbegqABfdZB=s0

another thing that proves what I say, is Seth saying that Yggdrasil covers time itself, that alone proves (sorry for repeating it all the time) that it is not younger than the earth. Entering this merit, it is said that Yggdrasil itself is the factory of the Universe, the source of creation, the factory of the reality, and one thing that, when it was affected by enchantment, would destroy all creation. In addition, Yggdrasil encompasses the true form of the gods, which exists beyond the divine plan itself, and the Ragnarok is covered by Yggdrasil (true form of Baldur), and in this form the gods are archetypal beings, platonic beings. In fact, this Scan by asgard adds with Thor season one and the norns, since Yggdrasil covers the gods, and the gods exist first of all. another thing, this is for ALL GODS, since Yggdrasil is a Nordic vision for the same structure. For the Greeks, she is the axis mundi, for other pantheons, Silla and body Crown, for the horse, she is the Sephiroth. The goddess herself who says that the Yggdrasil / axis is the source of creation is a goddess of the Shinto pantheon.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NHJ0aRGmYSs/VnqSmey1_sI/AAAAAAAAgBA/eQjpP79alLk/s0-Ic42/RCO015.jpg

*Seth

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/SHfEjbN_YiRCszpV1h-NhLSgiKif-oKPjiwETqEGDQDpirr7GuorBM9dqN4PULi26mjNcR4W6nw3=s0

*Yggdrasil and gods

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/X-dclWpvN6un-8IB6pj3idxu5yNGCpJ8ETW8F29JBTYOqs65w62Sa0_HG1uqbSPWEQW7FqosZphB=s0

*Baldur ragnarok

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/uIGNXQQ029knyHoQBmhlB3ODgxCcc-Pkf3wG63fxJ7KbF7pdfJIjY5tAUWb0r3fEhnTa_N80OUi1=s0

*Universal fabric

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/bPsNJ8NCZqvINuj_ojcKML4di8-oWZjoR9UQHLYsxmR0m_z3pT9xcXkjIAt5R6hecSsrTTmhpj9L=s0

*entire creation affected

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/7NV_tPwVRyLUKUAJmi5N8tgi5RRcnXLWedtng8dWrOppqnNvsHpnu6l1zFrqhSYjfZ7epOFclyw1=s0

* Reality fabric

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/xo-2dZkbzDk_th9h2MUQhBQkAYfzTBWVTOQpJ7qVFIlB_GLKERGkuUEeSMjGsdOGvNMNVe_b0UFv=s0

*Source of creation

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/gyt5LaMkxFjK-CmdGiBZ-Rmi_BW3NlfUbILD-q7JX3PWI5kQ5uGSWutnD1UGfDiLdap29p0k7zMKrFLDuzDTTbfdYdNJIcOUY0d-coEe5H3IrnC9s3aoFRyzH7Xg2iuUyIfWMu4MSg=s0

*Yggdrasil axis mundi
SuperSomebody
1 months member
@UnusOf2029 You can do anything on both but one copies the other sometimes
cw6334
36 months member
Mortal Kombat Series vs Street Fighter Series
cw6334
36 months member
Marvel Ultimate Alliance vs Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
cw6334
36 months member
Jak and Daxter
UnusOf2029
2 months member
Erron Black (MK) @Alien_X @Masterking2 @Tigerking2020 @MemeGuy
Two gunslingers from some pretty popular games duke it out. Who out guns the other?
UnusOf2029
2 months member
Jak & Daxter vs Ratchet & Clank