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sometimes this guy can have infinite strength (supposedly):
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Neutral ok I admit sometimes my bias for particular characters / verses can get the better of me and cause me vote strangely (albeit it does not happen often)
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Neutral Charmed Ones have considerable Hax
Piper can probably just disable / freeze Darkseid in place, so he can't move.
Then the Charmed Ones can use a conquering potion or combine their witchcraft powers to win.
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not voted @Tigerking2020
by now I've read so many (thousands +) comics and manga , I'm convinced any character can beat any other character randomly and with no logic involved.
Battles end the way the authors want them to end.
I've seen instances of Mister Fantastic one-shotting Hulk, Spider-Man solo-stomping a team of 5 X-Men (including Storm, Wolverine, Nightcrawler etc), and a random little pocket wizard capturing Dream of the Endless for almost 100 years in a room of his house, and with nothing so-called nigh-omnipotent Dream could've done to change matters.
Even the strongest characters typically have so many anti-feats they can be lowballed to Street Tier, and ordinary Human / Street Level Characters sometimes accomplish Star Level / Universe Level or higher feats randomly if only they have the author's favor (or Kryptonite) on their side.
Fiction and especially battles in fiction are in fact meant to be somewhat unpredictable, because a story would otherwise be boring if readers could always foresee the battle results simply by comparing the "Tiers" of the fighters.
Here in debating forums , it's perfectly up to the imagination (and knowledge of a particular verse) of the voters / of the debaters, when we try to predict the most likely outcome of a battle.
Because nobody can possibly know every feat and every currently valid powerscaling for every character in every verse , naturally we vote according to our own very best knowledge .
Sometimes also with a bias for characters from a particular verse, but because this is something everybody does it's not worth criticism.
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People underestimate Zeno Sama
Zeno Sama is very powerful.
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Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon) unlike Maria, Sailor Moon would not only "become" a creator, but Sailor Moon already is a creator, considering she re-created all of existence from nothingness with her Lambda Powers (right after blowing up the Galactic Cauldron + Chaos + herself).
Eternal Sailor Moon is a being which can never be ultimately erased / removed from all planes of existence.
Even when she should no longer exist at all (blowing up the Cauldon should have erased her Star Seed, and thus on a conceptual level), Eternal Sailor Moon is still a being who can warp / restore all of reality + herself .
To me, Sailor Moon's obvious and accomplished feats will always speak louder and more convincingly than those dubious fan theories you have about Maria of what she "maybe" "could" or "might" "become" (e.g. a creator etc).
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Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon) Sailor Moon stomps because
she's got the Silver Crystal / Infinite + Immeasurable Powers
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Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon) Sailor Moon certainly wins with Lambda Powers
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Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon)
Sailor Moon / Her Future Self is defined as an Omnipotent Goddess.
I do not agree perfectly with this ofc, but she's got most of the properties and feats many other so-called omnipotents in fiction have:
e.g.
Timelessness (Eternal)
Conceptual Existence
Reality Warping
Omniversal (Re-) Creation
Infinite Power
etc etc
So I can agree that she is likely 99% Omnipotent
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Sailor Moon (Sailor Moon) actually not one of "them" has any feats which suggest they can counteract Lambda Usagi's God Level Regeneration (capable of withstanding and regenerating even from so-called Conceptual Erasure <-- there's a good reason for why Sailor Moon also goes by the name Eternal Sailor Moon ...)
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Team Pegasus Seiya (Saint Seiya) you're seriously underestimating Saint Seiya
Athena with Staff of Nike (Goddess of Victory) can warp probability / winning chances / fate in favor of her and her team
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Neutral Considering the " Three Storms " were completely unfazed by barrage of bullets and overpowered a horde of (estimated) 100+ tough-looking enemy fighters with ease, this one might be interesting.

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DCEU has the means to deal with Death Star.
Superman is strong enough to move tectonic plates, so he should be strong enough to move a construct the size of only Death Star, too.
Even IF Death Star manages to shoot first, before their beam hits earth DCEU Flash can always just run and rewind time however long is necessary to give DCEU Superman enough time + enough chances to fly up to Death Star and move it away from the planet with his Super Strength.
I agree though, without Flash / Superman DCEU would be in big trouble vs Star Wars.
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Neutral usually Superman would win / blitz because of speed advantage
but it's out-of-character for Superman to do this (blitz) vs female opponents
so Wanda has a chance too
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Neutral Charlie , though his physical strength is only average, has extremely overpowered Hax (Telekinesis, Transmutation, Existence Erasure, etc), which has the potential to let Charlie win vs opponents who are much stronger (physically).
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Marvel Comics , Top 50 Most Powerful
1. The One Above All
2. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)
3. Living Tribunal
4. Adam Warlock (Infinity Gauntlet)
5. Phoenix Force
6. Death
7. Eternity
8. Molecule Man
9. Dreaming Celestial
10. Arishem the Judge
11. Galactus
12. Odin
13. Surtur
14. Thanos
15. Thor
16. Silver Surfer
17. Loki
18. Beta Ray Bill
19. Hulk
20. Drax the Destroyer
21. Enchantress
22. Black Bolt
23. Magneto
24. Ultimo
25. Captain Marvel
26. Super Skrull
27. Havok
28. Scarlet Witch
29. Namor
30. Abomination
31. Doctor Doom
32. Invisible Woman
33. Iron Man
34. Human Torch
35. War Machine
36. Sandman
37. Titanium Man
38. Wendigo
39. Mandarin
40. Moondragon
41. Venom
42. Whiplash
43. Spider-Man
44. Mister Fantastic
45. Rhino
46. Beast
47. Black Cat
48. Kraven the Hunter
49. Daredevil
50. Black Widow
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Hao Asakura (Shaman King) (Shaman King) sorry I don't have much knowledge of Swirl of the Root, but for Hao / Shaman King I've got nigh-complete knowledge of all media.

Some examples for why I think there probably aren't all too many characters in fiction who can beat Hao.

Fist off, Shaman Kings are defined as omnipotent & co. in-verse:


They are All-Knowing, All-Seeing:


Hao can warp universes into existence only to have a place for a battle:


Hao is also complete ruler of all of Shaman King's cosmology, and already the Great Spirit alone contains uncountably infinite realities , including their timelines / timeloops, and the Shaman King also transcends all of it ofc.

Shaman Kings have some limitations, though, because former Shaman Kings can sometimes veto their decisions, but other than that they are indeed virtually omnipotent.

From all I know about Shaman King, I'm pretty sure Shaman King Hao Asakura stomps most or maybe all of Fate/stay night with ease.
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Leeloo (Fifth Element) Leeloo is at the very least Moon Level, considering she stopped the Great Evil / a cosmic body with 1200 miles diameter from crashing into earth.
She probably stomps most of MCU with the exception of their God Tiers.
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Kunzite is a powerful underling of Queen Beryl.
E.g. he can casually freeze all of Toyko:
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Hades created a parallel reality called Underworld:


... which contains multiple dimensions , including super-dimensional space :
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I think it's a good idea to collect a tiny handful of "Best of" Feats and / or Statements which are relevant for powerscaling main characters.
The idea is not so much to make a lengthy and "perfect" respectthread like those on reddit or comicvine, ofc.
Just maybe 4-5 of the "most convincing" and "most obvious" feats a character has.
If we use Comments for this, the scans are easily and quickly accessible also here on shdb.
I'm aware that with complicated (often also biased) fandom-maths it's possible to powerscale / speedscale Seiya much higher than what is shown only here, on these scans.
The scans here are also only meant to exist as a "safeguard" against malicious lowballing.
So Seiya definitely isn't slower / weaker / less durable than the minimum which is obvious already from the "handful of" scans here.

Most Relevant Feat #1:
For a quick reference, Seiya is capable of Light Speed Punches:
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I re-read the 1980s manga Saint Seiya recently, so their feats and statements are present in my mind.
Therefore, I'd like to add a handful of strong characters & profiles:
- Black Dragon
- Capricorn Shura
- Chrysaor Krishna
- Wyvern Rhadamanthys
- Leo Aioria
- Papillon Myu
- Kiki
- Siren Sorento
- Skylla Io

Also, from Fairy Tail:
- Silver Fullbuster
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Lucifer Morningstar those 16 insane ones of team 1 shouldn't be underestimated though, but otherwise I agree
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Enlil (Sumerian Mythology) Well, at least there really ARE a handful of myths in which Enlil plays the role of a Supreme Deity.
I don't know of "any" stories about The Axiom tbh.
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90. that's probably too much
Luffy's durability is ~ Country / possibly Continent Level, though. He tanked a headbutt from a guy who split an ice continent.
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Neutral Saga beats DBZ 17 , but not DBS 17. Therefore, "on average", it's a draw.
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Uryu Ishida (Bleach) & Renji Abarai (Bleach) End-of-Story Uryu would solo the Espada .
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I still think between 1 and 2 there should be an additional Tier.
Town / City Level.
Currently, the difference between 1 (Building) and 2 (Mountain) is so big.
Lots of characters have feats which fit right "in the middle between" these two.
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Goku (Ultra Instinct) (DB) at the alarming rate at which OPM has been improving recently it seems like only a matter of (not much) time until OPM will catch up also with Universe Level threats like Goku UI
currently OPM seems to be at least in the High Multi-Star / possibly Low Galaxy Tier
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Neutral some of Saitama's more recent feats are so strong I think he can win, or at least make a draw
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Candyman without Soul Manipulation + Non-Physical Interaction it's beyond hopeless to even challenge a ghost like Candyman.
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Neutral strength-wise Horohoro scales much higher
but Road Kamelot's Hax / Pocket Reality Warping is very powerful, too
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Reality Warping should be the last Catch-All Term for all cases, when we don't know a more exact mechanism (e.g. Causality Manipulation) by which the Reality Alteration was accomplished.
If we know for sure that Reality changed as a result of Causality Manipulation, then Causality Manipulation should be listed.
If we know Reality Changed because of (Mind / Imagation) Projection of a character , then use those terms.
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Maturin you probably just have no idea how ridiculously high Dark Tower Top Tiers scale
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The Truth (FMA) Omnipotence can never be "proven" no matter what amount of feats a character has,
and even less so can Omnipotece be "disproven" by the absence of feats.
Or would accept an argument like:
The Axiom is not omnipotent because it never performed a Rasen Shuriken Jutsu !
Guess what, since not even the very concept of Naruto-style Jutsu exists in The Axiom's setting, it's no big surprise we will never see such a feat by The Axiom, it cannot perform Rasen Shurikens, no matter how omnipotent you want it to be.
So we learn from this: The absence of any particular feat for sure does NOT disprove the author intent , which the author had when he created a fictional character (e.g. the Axiom) and gave him Omnipotence.
For the very same reason, Omnipotent characters who are from stories where there are no multiverses , and maybe not even the concept of multiverses, you will never see such characters do "any" actions which involve multiverses ("multiverse" is an undefined class for them, just like "jutsu" is an undefined class for the Axiom)
Absence of feats does NEVER disprove omnipotence which was given by an author to a character .
Only way to "beat" omnipotence is to find clear and obvious Anti-Feats or Anti-Statements from the work the character is from.
Example:
Hao Asakura, when he became Shaman King, was defined as Omnipotent. Later, he revealed that there are certain things he cannot do without the approval of former Shaman Kings. <-- That's how you "disprove" Omnipotence. By showing feats and statements from their own verse, which show limits to the Omnipotence a character was defined with.
No such thing happened in Fullmetal Alchemist.
Sure, part of Truth was absorbed by Father, but this fact alone does not disprove anything. It's a very common trope in many manga that an abstract omnipotent entity is absorbed by a physical 3-dimensional character to boost their powers temporarily, and never does it disprove omnipotence of the abstract entity.

Summary:
Omnipotence is always author-defined.
Omnipotence can never be "disproved" by absence of feats , but only with obvious anti-feats and anti-statements of a character in their own setting.
Omnipotence is not even the strongest power either btw. It gets beaten by Metapotence (== author stand-ins or the author himself, who can - at any time he chooses - RETCON a formerly omnipotent character and give this title to a new character.)
Transduality is the #2 strongest Hax / Property right after Omnipotence.
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The Truth (FMA) Let's see how Truth is defined:
You're either part of the Truth, or you do not exist (== are already defeated) to begin with.

Also, an implication of paradoxes like "being All" and "being One" simultaneously would be that the very fundamental Law of Identity goes bye-bye / is no longer applicable to beings like the Truth, so it defies logic itself beyond all doubts (aka Duality Transcendence).
And it's just logically impossible to beat Duality Transcendent beings such as the Truth.
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The Truth (FMA)
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The Supreme Maker (SWL) never heard of Supreme Maker in Star Wars, but if it's true he's so omnipotent he's even above George Lucas (RL Author) as stated in the description, ofc he's most powerful
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Ichibei (Bleach) but it's very difficult
Shunsui Bankai is very broken
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Team Aokiji (OP) sorry I have poor knowledge of Dies Irae
maybe team wins if Saber uses Avalon Powers to become invincible , or maybe Beerus can use Hakai
Itachi / Shunsui / Mewtwo have strong hax, too , which might work
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Yhwach (Bleach) team aizen / ichigo also requires help from Uryu and his silver arrow, otherwise Yhwach is still too strong
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Fantastic Four Fantastic Four as a team are stronger than only the sum of their parts.
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Neutral again a case of obviously stronger attack potency (Whitebeard), but it's probably pointless because InuYasha's Meido Zangetsuha / Void Blades ignore power difference and durability and they can just one-shot BFR whatever and whoever they hit
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Neutral obviously, Luffy is much stronger
but Lelouch's Geass is very overpowered Hax, so strength difference alone is no guarantee to beat Lelouch
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The Childlike Empress (TNES) & Bastian Balthasar Bux (TNES) Childlike Empress + Bastian defeated a similar primal void called "The Nothing" in their own story already.
They are therefore proven and accomplished specialists when it comes to overcoming a primal void.
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The Childlike Empress (TNES) & Bastian Balthasar Bux (TNES) Childlike Empress is a nigh-omnipotent Reality Warper in TNES
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Team Lucifer Morningstar yes, but with obvious anti-feats and retcons

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