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Hi V,

Check out my new post in "General" - "Super-Hero Top-Trumps Game Project (now making it open source)"

Hope we can build upon it, let me know your thoughts :)
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Nice profile picture!
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vonKonigsberg
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TY! I absolutely love Avacyn.
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I am going you let you know about this now now but there is going to be massive changes in the FOTNS regarding stats I have to deal with I know that I have screwed up horribly on the stats and furthermore regret doing it again, but the stats will make much more sense since I have to remove tons of powers, anyways if you have any further questions or comments about the FOTNS verse let me know and I would be happy to help anytime.
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JLA1847
JLA1847 1 mo 3 d
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And back here we go.

But yea uhh, the state one makes more sense, as Brazil should give more then Ecuador as an example. Overall would also make them want to rush forming the union, which could be really fun to play if extra mechanics are added in to it, perhaps the Union being able to completely fall apart in case Argentina tries forming it too fast, giving us extra gameplay where we both want to be fast with it but also dont want to ruin the nation in the progress. I see i see, well thanks for the info.

Yes! Coach Volibear would be so good! Same with Anivia, the jobs would work almost perfectly with how they are and having a tiny story of just them interacting with Ornn and Voli always clashing and Anivia having to calm the situation down. And i mean hey a giant bird for a Head Mistress, absolutely hilarious to see Anivia in a suit plus considering Yuumi is already one wouldnt be "random" at all. Yea Udyr can more or less play the role of the dense protagonist, using the pointers and hints from the 3 of them as his forms while striving to become the number 1 student. Oh yea and when his ult is ending he puts the wig back on, would also have one of his ears oddly poke through it just to show how badly it really fits, overall an absolutely great skin idea.

Would also be really nice to see how the powers of the Black Mist and Void work when clashing against each other, maybe Bel'veth winning and sealing him inside would cause problems for her down the way too as she wouldnt be able to fully kill him? Making her constantly need to divert some attention to make sure he doesnt break free, just something that could also make Viego important throughout the event even after his defeat while also giving the heroes a bit of a leg up since, realistically i dont really see almost anyone that should be able to reliably stop/beat Bel'veth from the hero side.

Hmmm yea Janna would be a good addition. And Senna while technically similar, its a bit different since her story was already established in the lore itself so not completely the same, oh well either way hopefully they will release the 5th one in the game eventually. Abooout Yi, no idea if you saw him but here he is, overall i think he is, okay, i never really liked "Spell spam" decks so i doubt il be using him much myself.

Yea makes sense, i will start doing my leftover profiles now too since finally got some extra time (Plus also feel like it, just didnt feel like doing them much before tbf) But that aside, noticed you've also done Lulu and Neeko, honestly i think all 4 of them look great, i would only maybe increase Janna's experience by 5 purely because she is supposed to be a fairly veteran guardian so she likely has her fair share of experience. And yea, a bit unfortunate for Xayah and Rakan buuut cant really be helped.
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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 3 d
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Yes, I would imagine there would need to be decisions or some such for the newly incorporated countries to get their systems integrated with the Union's, which would take time and, if not completed under a certain amount of time, would result in revolts or the like. I'd also assume you could go about 3 ways of getting countries into the union: militarily, covertly/convincing the populace or by replacing the political leadership, all of which would have their pros and cons. I would also imagine that this would gain the ire of the European nations with territory in SA as well as the US, so that would add another factor. Could be a fun campaign to say the very least.

I'm liking this a lot more now! Have you per chance read Mashle? Because I am 100% imaging Udyr as this dude that does not understand magic at all but just has this innate talent to utilize it while being totally clueless all at the same time. And maybe there could be a line where he says the "How do you do, fellow students" becuase he doesn't fit in and he's normally also a middle-aged man. Maybe too for Susan Nasus they add a slight idle animation where he adjusts the wig? Might be a bit too much work for a joke skin, but it could also just be part of his recall.

I do wonder how Bel'Veth would regard such an inherently unnatural power the Mists are while they're also so similar to what she does. I'd expect she'd definitely want to analyze them too, which would give her a further reason to imprison rather than destroy Viego. And yes, I definitely like the idea of his constant attempts to break out to be a net benefit for the heroes. Yes, without some deus ex machina, there really aren't any Runeterra bound heroes that could stop her, seeing as how easily she dealt with Kai'sa. This is definitely when I would like to see Bard and/or Soraka to help, even if only indirectly, because they realise the threat Bel poses if she is allowed to consume Runeterra in it entirety.

Oh, I just meant that Senna got a card before being added into LoL proper. That was a good way to show her pre and post Thresh capturing her. I would say they'll release the 5th in LoR, see how people react and make changes in LoL based around that and then say the card was an older/weakened version, which I would not complain about. Yeah, I watched the video and, um, hard pass? I already hate Lee Sin decks and Yi just seems like that but somehow more annoying. Cool to get the artwork with the helmet off, though.

Cool, let me know when you start hitting them up. I've made the edits to Janna and released the rest. I'll get to work on getting the stats for the rest of the last batch. I think I forgot Poppy and Gwen, so I'll need to request them and I'm gonna be doing a lot of work on Magic stuff because oh boy did the last story update absolutely suck butt and just derail all of my expectations. Fun.
JLA1847
JLA1847 1 mo 2 d
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Yeap yeap, all that could work great for a communist path, the other ones though im not so sure, i mean i guess if the entire SA gets it there could be a tree added for Colombia and Venezuela to help restore Gran Colombia but, dunno besides that tbf.

Nope never really read it, only heard of the series a handful of times too so fully forgot about it before you mentioned it. That aside though that is more or less the exact idea i had in mind too, a guy who doesnt really understand much and is clearly not fitting but still somehow ends up winning and being the protagonist of the skinline, with all the other students being utterly suprised by both who he is and what he is doing. Maybe as his rival of sorts id add Kayn, kinda the complete opposite of him as he can be the overly prideful edgelord who was the previous number 1 in the school, his existance being completely thwarted by the random bearded guy appearing to the school. Rhaast could also be made to be a demon (or something of the like) that possessed him thinking he is the best option or whatnot, only feeding more into Kayn's ego as he would have a "typical shonen-esque" protagonist position making him truly believe he is the hero and whatnot, only for Rhaast to start complaining about how much better Udyr is at everything and that he should have picked him instead whenever Udyr accidentally trumps Kayn eitherr directly or through just dumb luck. Would bring in some more extra comedy to the skinline. For a recall should work, perhaps have Nasus try to adjust his voice too only to get mad after failing several times. (Another tiny thing i would add is legit just 1 special interaction whenever he meets Big Bad Warwick, saying something along the lines of "Warwick stealing his trick", i know it wouldnt fit much but i want to see Susan have an interaction with Grandma Warwick! Similar concept and all that, even if Warwick is more or less a little red riding hood joke)

Honestly yea Bard also not doing anything against Viego was, fairly odd considering he is more or less a protector of Runeterra by his own will. Either way he has been hyped to be very important in the coming void stuff so he better appear and give the heroes the chance they need! Soraka being there would only make sense too considering she has been trying to help humanity for a whiiiile now. Dont think either of them should fight directly (unless things get really bad) but, just having Bard empower them and maybe Soraka heal them in the time of need, with maybe her even being able to create sorts of talismans that can lessen the effects of the Void would be plenty for both. Combined with the Viego stuff could defintely even up the fighting ground for them.

Right right true, kinda misunderstood you, im also not sure because i have low info but, i am kind of worried they, might have 2 new Darkin in this LoR update with neither being the assassin one which... Wouldnt make any sense since that would make for 6 darkin instead of 5. But that is fully speculative because a card looks like it could be a Darkin with it even having a special name, and we know that card isnt the Darkin they were talking about since we got some vastly different looking concept art revelead, but well that is fully just a theory which i hope isnt true at all. Mhmm yea he looks nice, grew a moustache but i guess he is just a bit older now, dont really like that he got new Wuju disciples, feel like it lessens his bond with Wukong a bit plus it also doesnt make too much sense considering, Doran is dead and he is the only one who could "enchant" Wuju swords/weapons something which is extremely important to properly learning the Wuju style but ohh well. On other more concerning news, uhh besides Yi, the next champion might actually be Yuumi's master Norra... they dropped a short shoving us a couple yordle/bandle city cards along with hinting heavily at it by referencing Yuumi's lore, cant say im thrilled about that at all because it likely means we arent getting Aatrox and Varus.

I am done with Worldbreaker Nasus i think sooo feel free to check him out. And yea we did forget them seemingly, damn. Oh... that bad? Hopefully only from the "expectations" part rather than it also just being bad writing and whatnot?

Also uh just a heads up, seemingly both SG Rell profiles are being flagged for deletion and not just one.
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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 2 d
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Yes, a Gran Colombia run for non-Communist SA would make a lot of sense.

Well, I've been reading it and if you want just a goofy satire of the whole magic school genre, check out Mashle. But, yes, that is the exact idea I had for Academia Udyr. As per Kayn, maybe they could go about it like the whole Professor Quirrel thing with Rhaast wanting to infiltrate the academy to get something that'll let him do something. Yeeeees, I love Nasusan trying to get the voice right would be great. Honestly, a whole bunch of interactions between those two skins would be great. Maybe Nasus could ask who WW goes to for fittings.

Yeah, uh the Ruination was the exact kind of thing Bard is supposed to intervene in. You could make the argument that he knew the Sentinels would win out in the end, but that still feels like a cop out. I would say after Viego's defeat, Bard sees that there's no routes for Runeterra to survive, so he takes the least amount of action he can. This, as you said, takes the form of Bard melding a Meep with the chosen champions to give them an edge while Soraka heals them or uses her star fall ability to assist in the final battle or something. I will say, I hope future events are less world endy. I, like you, would like the regional narratives moved forward, even though I do like the big boom booms.

My only idea there would be that the sixth is a dead character, much like Jarvan III is. I will say Horazi really doesn't look that great, idk. But we'll see. It's not the first time they've altered long standing narratives on a whim. Yeah, I get that each champ needs some minions to support them, but it does lessen the relationship those two have. Maybe we'll get Wukong after or something? And he can get minions that are references to Journey to the West. Yeah, uh, I hope they're not doing Norra, but there's no one else I can think of that would fit the hints they've given out.

Only thing I would add to WB Susan is that they state he uses Hellfire on his first stage. Other than that, he looks great. Well, um, they revealed a character to be a sleeper agent despite there being no hints prior and the conversion not being possible within the time frame we've been given. Oh and they murdered a character very lamely and brought back some 1000% dead ones for no reason. Fan freaking tastic.

I had seen. Messaged Monster and he took care of it.
JLA1847
JLA1847 1 mo 1 d
vonKonigsberg
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Will keep it in mind, not really reading anything right now anyways since just recently finished re-reading some stuff. Oh yes that works even better yes, Kayn being tricked almost comically easy as all Rhaast told him was that he could finally best Udyr if he lead him inside the school, would also make the skin a bit different from others since the skin would start with their relationship still being really fresh compared to them already being "stuck" with each other for some time.

Hmmm, i guess if they do the void event maybe they could just add a line explaining Bard was busy closing void rifts or something during the ruination, hence his absence. (Although considering the ruination lasted, several weeks or longer according to the journals, thats not really the best excuse.) I do really agree on that, imo the "grand" world-affecting stories should have a few years spaced between then, we did wait for the ruination for, more than a couple years after all which is part of the problem since we went from having none of them to, Ruination coming around and then Void being "hyped up" almost immediatly after. Oh well, i would just much prefer if firstly, the Shurima Azir/Xerath conflict got resolved, then an update to Mage Rebellion in Demacia and third one id prefer the most would likely be an update between the Noxus/Ionia situation, either Noxus starting the 2nd invasion or Ionia deciding to try and fully push Noxus off Ionia. The last one mostly because, almost every Ionia's champion story focuses soooo much on Noxus, and yet nothing is actually happening with it at all, sooo overall i am getting quuuite fed up with it in a way, especially since Ionia has the most champions out of any region so we are being hammered with the "Noxian invasion" info a bit a lot. (Plus neither of the 2 regions have anything really happening with them right now, nor were they that important in the ruination like Bilgewater for example)

Hmmm yea that could be it huh, i didnt even think about that since i, fully forgot about Jarvan III actually being in the game. Well... as much as we hoped for it to not be her, it is Norra indeed... She does also seem to be, absolutely aids to play against at least for me because, i always dislike RNG which she very much is. But ugh more than that i just mind her being the one added as a champion, there are a lot better candidates to add as "champions" to LoR that arent champions in the main game, Norra is completely irrelevant to the story as a whole besides being there for Yuumi... whoooo shouldnt exist to begin with, if i was forced to remove 1 champion from the games+lore she would definetely be high on the priority list. Side rant aside yea uh, Norra feels like a terrible choice, nobody really cares about her especially compared to Aatrox, even Varus is a lot more popular, worst of all they said this expansion would focus on more "serious" characters which couldnt be further from the truth now.

Thanks for reminder, kinda slipped my mind i guess, gonna change that and ship him out i guess. Huuuuuuuh, yea no i absolutely hate "twists" like that, just feel forced as hell while also at times completely ruining a character for no reason other than shock value. I dont like ressurecting being present in stories overall, just always feels like it takes away from the story since death starts mattering less in a way, even worse when its done willy nilly like that
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Edit: Changed Rhaast and Kai'sa over to the LoR images, so do tell if i fit them properly or if you would change em around a bit more.
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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 18 h 19 m
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Yeeeesssss, it being so new would be a good change up for the skins and might allow them to have a little bit more freedom for the appearance of the shadow assassin form. I really do think Battle Academia needs the web comic treatment cause I would love to see these kinds of interactions between the students and how the teachers and what not react. Graves firing his gun into the air every single time he needs to get their attention would be funny.

The only reasons I can think for Bard not intervening is that he was dealing with something else far more important or he knew the Sentinels could pull it off... the latter is definitely not satisfactory. I will say the Void portals is a passable enough excuse, but they can do better than that. I would say following up on Shurima's story next just makes the most sense, as it would spring board off of the events of the Void event the best and might do well to set up the next regional conflict. I do kind of think the Mage rebellion might be better handled in LoR all things considered and I feel like a second invasion of Ionia could work, but some things would need to change in Noxus, which I think a resurgence of Shurima would help to push them in that direction. I would also take an Ionian civil war to make all of those champs have something to do, which could also help set the stage for another invasion.

I will say I like III and IV's interactions, but that's about it. Uh, yeah, super disappointed they went with Norra. Her mechanic seems problematic at best and I really would've preferred pretty much any in-game champ to her. And as important as she is to Yuumi, her suddenly showing up completely ruins what little reason Yuumi had for being around. And yeah, Yuumi can go and burn as far as I'm concerned. Cute idea, terrible execution. I really would've preferred we got another Darkin to justify adding in the sub type or someone like Urgot who could really use some new art and could make a fun aggressive discard strategy.

It happens to all of us. Yeah, the fan base is in an uproar. They keep killing/corrupting the few white (mana color not skin color) main characters we have and it just gets really frustrating. And everyone was really confused with Ertai's resurrection as he was vaporized in his last story appearance and really doesn't add anything to the new narrative. Magic's always been good at leaving characters dead once they die despite necromancy existing. And even then, a character brought back that way is drastically changed, which works for me. This latest story line has really sucked, but I gotta keep up with it.

They both look great to me. Kai'Sa especially. Also apologize for the late reply. My net went down last night until this morning.
JLA1847
JLA1847 1 mo 9 h 50 m
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For sure yea, Battle Academia is probably one of the skinlines who would get the most from a web comic anyways since it would be fairly easy to make one due to the nature of the skinline, it also does just need more attention given to it since it is fairly barebones as is. Mhm, and whenever firing the gun doesnt work he elects to threathen to call Yuumi. (Or threathens extra lessons with Coach Voli)

That is a pretty good point about the Mage Rebellion, LoR would be perfect for it since, it doesnt need too much story-wise, what we need now is establishing the sides a bit more with adding a few followers to Sylas' side and slowly setting up for the big conflict, just that much progression would be plenty imo. Hmmm yea maybe better than the Noxian invasion stuff just a civil war in Ionia could work better, it being more or less jumpstarted into action due to the Ruination and having Karma in specific get corrupted, people now doubting in The Spirit of Ionia and Karma more than even in sorts which could lead to some unrest or even outright conflict shattering Ionia into pieces.

Yea... everything you said alright. And Urgot would've been nice but, by looks of what they are hinting, and what my "leaks guy" is saying the next champion will be Jax, which, i dont mind at all, kinda like it since he is at least vaguely connected to Darkin/Ascended through his "endeavours" in Icathia. Plus i do just like Jax so i am a bit biased. (Not from a gameplay perspective, i think his gameplay pretty darn annoying more often than not) Aside from Jax there will also be another champion after him since this expansion will apparently have 5 champions added, fingers crossed for Aatrox at least in my case.

Hmmmm i see i see, have had series i like do similar stuff but none in the same ammount by looks of it. I guess all i can say is hope the next story updates try fixing things up.

Oh no worries at all, but aight thanks thanks, and yea id say kai'sa one works amazing, once the update fully gets released i might try finding a higher quality image for Rhaast but for now its definetely plenty good.
vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 9 h 13 m
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Okay, good, cause I really think they should be trying to put out web comics just in general, but especially for the skin lines. It'd be a good way to get people invested in buying those skins while giving us story content. Yeeeeesssss, I love the idea of the kitty being the true threat, although seeing Voli chasing BA Ez (who isn't allowed to teleport) around while tooting his whistle would be comedy gold. And all of this needs to take place in the background of vindictive Kayn who has declared Udyr as his arch rival, even though the latter keeps forgetting about him.

Yes, that's what I was thinking. We could finally see some of Sylas's lieutenants and maybe push Cithria's story along. Honestly, I'd like to see how Sylas plans to deal with Galio. Maybe recruiting some dragons or even making a pact with Voli or something (as unlikely as that is). Maybe Karma simply withdraws into her self with her guilt from what she did while under Viego's control, which creates a rift between Irelia's side and whoever takes up the side of Karma (Shen maybe? Not super up on Ionian politics) which leads to Zed's order doing something that forces it into open conflict. That way it can be a three way conflict that can turn into a more traditional good vs evil if they want it to. Or they could just have Ionia fall apart and go into factions, like you've said. Almost like the Three Kingdoms/Shogunate periods, which could be pretty cool for story telling purposes and liven the area up quite a bit.

I'm okay with Jax conceptually if not on the gameplay front, so I'm okay with him coming into LoR. I really hope they don't make him another stun champ, though. I agree that I would prefer Aatrox, though for the last spot to go alongside Kayn. My dream champs for LoR are Urgot, Nunu, Kayle, Nid and Malzahar all because I think they could have some fun gameplay opportunities.

Yeah, um, we'll see. They've dug themselves quite a hole and absolutely enraged a bunch of people. Like, a character that took an energy blast equivalent to a nuclear warhead died from falling off a cliff.

We'll likely get one once they release the patch at the end of the month. I do wonder too what skins they'll add. Oh! I think I have all of the guardian characters requested I was gonna do. Also I think SG Rakan and Xayah are finished. Let me know what you think.

Edit: Next Dev Diary. Nothing too exciting in this one.
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JLA1847
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Yep yep, perhaps to have both Kayn and Rhaast shine id also make it that rather than fully taking over Rhaast just temporarily takes control and transforms into well himself. Probably when he tries taking on Udyr himself after seeing Kayn fail two or three times, only for Rhaast to lose due to both underestimating Udyr at start AND because in a typical OP dense protag fashion Udyr would accidentaly channel the powers of Yuumi the Mighty Kitty Cat mid way through the fight!

Would also be interesting and possible that Sylas could figure out a way how to beat Galio without overpowering him, considering he probably knows the most about petricite compared to any other champion. Maybe he could also just try being smart about it, making sure to "borrow" the powers of any mage with magic strong enough to actually activate him, so that he can control himself when and how to advance. I think Shen could be the one to take the mantle BUT he could also very well leave things to go their natural way considering how much he believes in the Spirit of Ionia and balance, and if so i think that would lead to possibly very interesting progressions with people siding a lot more with Zed due to Shen and the entire orders inactivity and ofc the fracturing of Ionia we already mentioned. Would also make for a good point to add a new Ionian villain, my idea being someone who wants to almost forcefully unite the pieces of Ionia into a militaristic nation much more akin to Noxus, using the "incompetence" of Karma and Shen against both The Ruination and the Noxian invasion to get the masses on his/her side

It will be Jax and by some leaks when he is summoned he will "innovate", which basically gives him a choice between 3 random equipments, one being a frying pan (Something far more dangerous than a real weapon!) Soo if those leaks are true i think he will be a nice addition. Uhh yea all those would be good choices ASIDE from Kayle imo, purely cause i hate her gameplay in league and because releasing her without Morgana is a no go. Besides those you mentioned i would like to see Ivern, Voli or Ornn annnd weirdly enough Rammus, because we need a champ that finally makes Tough shine!

Huuuuuuuuuh, well yea that just doesnt make any sense whatsoever, and i know things lile that are not OVERLY important for the story but they always irked me a lot, i just really like attention being payed to stuff like that or any details really. Well cant think of anything id add or remove on Xayah or Rakan but i will say the stats are a bit messed up all around now after Galactus worked around with the powers, a lot of characters and especially in the main canon got too big upgrades (Fiddle, a lot of Shadow Isles champs, Soraka by a bit just as a few examples). Soooo while i do think both SG Rakan and Xayah look good things overall feel weird and i would say some adjustments could be needed.

Thanks thanks, i will read it later though since i first want to get back home to get to my pc dont really like reading long articles on a phone
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vonKonigsberg
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Honestly, I really do want this storyline. It's just too much fun and is the perfect kind of lampooning that a web comic could do well. Also the idea of super buff Udry channeling the power of a kitty to defeat a raging demonically possessed student would be priceless.

Oh, yes, that'd be a good way to demonstrate Syals's intelligence. Maybe he could also simply try to confront Demacia's forces on a broad enough front that there's no single expenditure of magic strong enough to awaken him. I was thinking Shen, but I wasn't completely sure what his role would be. I like the idea of the emergence of a new Ionian villain, perhaps along the lines of a fusion between Oda Nobunaga and Lu Bu that is very charismatic and a strong warrior, but has a terrible temper. Perhaps too we could add something in that makes him despise the kinkou and the order of shadows so he's a very distinct faction. This could be a really fun story ngl.

Yeah, I watched his trailer and he looks fine. Love his artwork, but he looks a bit unexciting. I do expect he'll be teamed with Kai'Sa quite a bit. I only put out Kayle because she could make a good heavy hitter for Demacia and she would definitely need to be released alongside Morgana for sure. Ivern could be a lot of fun, maybe have some kind of mechanic to disguise his units. Might be a bit troublesome, but as long as it's only one or two units at a time it wouldn't be too broken. Ooooo, I definitely want Rammus too if anything just so we get his super insightful dialogue! And yes, he'd need tough and probably challenger. I'd also say he'd be a good candidate for formidable, although I understand most people don't like it.

I'll go ahead and release Rakan and Xayah for now. I'll do some basic work on the others and release them too. We'll have to come back to them once Galactus is done reworking things and go back through all of the champs, although I do think most are fine for now. Bard will need edits for sure, as he should be higher by a decent margin over the Runeterra bound champs.
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Yea thats also a really smart idea, would make things more interesting for Lux too as she would have to pick between keeping her secret or activating Galio by using her magic, which could cause even more change in Demacia considering her position, and well a lot of changes for her in particular. More or less what you had in mind, he could just hate the Kinkou due to their inactivity and the order of shadows due to the "secretive" way they operate as he could hate indirect actions finding them cowardly or whatnot, maybe even using such ideas as his propaganda by promising the people they will always know where they stand if they side with him. Just someone who would be really different from any other leading forces in Ionia.

It did take a bit for me to start liking him because he just looked a bit too different at start but, even just after a day essentially, i do now think Jax looks amazing, gameplay wise he is okay, really nothing special but just a new gimmick i guess, doubt il be crafting copies of him on release. Hmmmm yea Demacia doesnt really have any of those aside from Galio so Kayle will probably be the right choice sometime into the future, after the other regions get more heavy hitters of their own. For minions i would definetely have Ivern use jungle monsters from league (Because his in-game interactions with them are truly adorable) and other spirits. At same time i do also think Ivern would need a special win-condition same way Soraka has her own with the fountain landmark and healing. Maybe Ivern could play an extremely defensive playstyle, his gimmick being that he can remove all the attack from his monsters, but if said monsters die the unit that attacked and killed them will also lose the same ammount of attack? (If thats confusing a practical example would be, Ivern can make his 3/3 unit into a 0/3, but in enchange if that monster is killed in combat, the enemy unit that killed it will also lose 3 attack) Saying all of this because imo, it would be cool if Ivern could win the game if he reduces the attack of units overall by 30 (or any number). Giving a completely new and unique playstyle and way of winning, especially fitting with his lore/personality because Ivern would quite literally not hurt a bug. Oh yes! Id love to hear what other lines full of wisdom Rammus could bestow upon us! And yea i think Formidable makes absolute sense in his scenario, while im mostly neutral myself on the mechanic it would work too perfectly with rammus.

Whelp saw you changed around the SG's and also updated any other leftover SG's who needed it, i think the only part i would change is remove "Nonexistant physiology" from Quinn and add "Non physica interaction" and "Transformation", besides that i think all of them look great! Well done! The only one i cant actually comment much on is Orianna since... i still havent looked into Wild Rift SG's, but i dont see anything that could be problematic or anything, still wanted to mentiion it tho ofc. Oh yea yea ofc, my bad if i worded myself poorly, imo most are completely fine and wont really need much changing but there are just some outliers who will definetely need them, Bard as you mentioned, and another great example being Vilemaw since yea i do think he got considerably more than he should've. But oh well all that can wait until Galactus does his thing ofc. Edit: I think im done with SG Syndra so do tell if there is anything you'd change or whatnot, oh and i also didnt include any of her dark star stuff, both cause its still kinda vague and because it will likely be a skin of its own in the future

Whelp after reading the Dev Diary there really wasnt much, but the war support changes are nice, and same goes to being able to look at the equipment status of our allies, just good QOL changes i suppose.
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It would also show him learning from his previous defeat at the hands of Galio in the Warrior video. I also do believe part of his plan would be to force Lux out to weaken Demacia's resolve, although I see Lux using it more as a chance to form her own side in the conflict seeking to end the blood shed. Although, Sylas and the Mageseekers would not want that to happen. Yes, those are two excellent points for him to despise the two orders. It'd also be fun to have a very bombastic Ionian that's very much in line with the warrior traditions of Ionia is not their spiritual side, as he views the latter as being the root cause of his homeland's peril.

I honestly think he looks really cool now. Wonder when he'll get an update in LoL to match... Yeah, there's Galio, but he doesn't really work with their Elite/6-cost strategies, so I feel like Kayle could do double duty there. Oh, yes, for sure, Ivern would need to have the Gromps and everything available to him. Maybe his win con could be reducing enemy power by 50 by any means and while he's in play his units reduce power instead of dealing damage? Like Enfeebling Strike in Path of Champions. I do like me some alternate win cons. Honestly, his IQ on the site should be 250 or even 300. Yeah, I'm not a super fan of the ability, but he's such a perfect fit and I would like for some more options for the playstyle.

Oh, that's a misclick on my behalf, I'll change that ASAP. I watched through all I could on SG Ori (thank god for Surrender) and that's about what I was able to suss out for her. I'll mark them in my collections as ones to look into once he's done. I'll also look at Syndra when I next get a chance, as I've run out of time. Edit: Looked over Syndra and she looks good, if a tad bit higher than expected. Only thing I might change is lowering her combat just a smidge, but that's no big deal either way.

Yes, I appreciate all the changes, just nothing mind blowing in there.
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Mhm yep, Lux would still get imprisoned but she should definetely create a new side in Demacia, supported by any other hidden mages since they surely exist and anyone else who isnt as paranoid, plus Garen would likely stand by her side since he did very clearly imply that he already knew she was a mage even at the start of the comic, so it would just be some nice progression for the region. Basically exactly that yea, and if we are to get another Ionian champion anytime soon which is... very likely considering we didnt get one this year, i would very much like something similar to what we just mentioned.

Whelp all i can say is that i would love to see a Jax update but dont think he will be getting one anytime soon. Would make Ivern quite good with Frostibite decks too which is nice since he was originally from Freljord, hmm Freljord could also work really well because it has a lot of high damage units which would make that 50 power that much easier to reach, of course Ivern himself should be Ionian but, Freljord could be his best combo region. Oh also on other news, we might ACTUALLY get Aatrox for the last champion because, they revealed some new Darkin Cards including the 5th Darkin "Taarosh", dont really overly like how he looks, feel like he looks neither human-esque or monstrous enough rather just sits somewhere in between, but oh well, he does use a shield and a "staff" so hey maybe our idea could pan out in the end? His region is Shadow Isles and so are half of the darkin cards BUT the other half are all Freljord soooooo, fingers crossed for the Trox!

I see i see, well yea she looks fine and ofc worst case scenario we can just look into the Wild Rift stuff after we finish all the other SG's. Whelp if you think i should lower her a bit overall do tell of course, love the input alright, i just put her there since Zoe did admit Syndra could beat her in their Twin Star fight, but main problem with all of that is that we dont know if its with the Dark Star powers or without them, still Syndra even normally seems to be weaker but at least in a vaguely similar ballpark to Zoe so ended up landing around there. Yeap sure sure, will lower the combat by 5-10 then, put it on 70 mostly cause she would be doing Star Guardians things longer than Nilah who has been doing it for several thousand years at least, saying that since Syndra and Zoe are first generation while Nilah is the 7th hence should be doing it for longer.

Edit: Seems "everyone" got a bit of a nudge up again, one thing i do kinda wish Galactus would work on a bit as well is adding more importance to the base stats, best example being Durability since the ratings make it seem like its pretty damn irrelevant whereas it should be among the more important stats, but oh well thats just a small pet peeve of mine, still glad to see abilities are getting their descriptions and whatnot
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Her imprisonment could lead to an interesting choice for Garen and especially Jarvan, hopefully with the latter finally listening to Xin about his father's wishes. That would be a good point to have a coup by the Mageseekers to install a new king that's still of the Lightshield line, but def a puppet. Obvs JIV escapes (possibly rescued by Shyv?), but that'd be a good way to add a new dynamic that the region really needs. Also be interesting to see how Galio reacts to all of this. Honestly, I really like the idea of Ionia being divided up too. It'd really help the region become a little bit more diverse and iirc it's the largest realm by far. Also I just really like the character concept we've created and how he contrasts the region while still feeling Ionian.

He honestly does look outdated in game, but yeah, he's def not a priority for a VU. Oh, I hadn't even thought about that, but that is some very good synergy both gameplay and lore wise. Huzzah! So, I'm not gonna lie, I kind of like the whole Draco-Centaur look, but yeah, he still doesn't look quite right. I'll also point out that it says he's the "Darkin Halberd," but all I see is a spear head, which would make him a pike/spear:
Weird for him to be the Shadow Isles, but aesthetically it works for him, I guess. Nope! The next champ is Ornn! "In lands torn to pieces by brotherly strife, in lava-made caverns he forges new life." I'm not gonna complain, lol. Guy's also at a forge.

Honestly, I didn't see much changed animation or otherwise from her base aside from things like her throwing energy blasts instead of gears and some effects left behind for her ult. Oh, no, I'm not doubting you at all and really I'm only saying to lower combat because once you start getting into the 70's+ is when you start looking at super martial artists and those that are hyper focused combatants. I trust you and your assessments and it's probably just all the changes happening that boosted her more than I expected.

Yeah... I also don't like things like Large Size getting nuked. I'm going to make a plea for it, as the kaiju characters already get screwed over in the power department. But, yeah, I really do wish durability was changed to a 200 point system (like intelligence) so there could be more nuance and it to actually do something for the score. And yes, 100% agree on descriptions, as they've been needing them.
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Yea either the puppet king or Eldred/Tianna could just take over as temporary regents of Demacia, prefering to lie to the public that Jarvan is terribly sick over de-escalating the situation with the mages. About him escaping hmm yea possibly with Shyvana, would be a nice callback to how he helped her and Demacia probably doesnt have too much of a way to deal with a Dragon (outside of Galio). Not that Shyvana would want to fight demacians but she would make the escape much easier. Hmmm, that is interesting yea, could be a nice twist if Galio himself started figuring out mages arent really bad since, he doesnt feel like someone who hates them or anyone much really, its just that the only times he can live is whenever there is a mage (or multiple) causing a big ruckus so it is kind of hard for him to get a good impression on things. (Honestly i would really just love seeing Galio finally be able to live more actively and normally if everything ends with mages not being prosecuted in the end, him hence being alive a lot more since magic is used a lot more freely, just want to see that since Galio deserves it, he is just a guy trying to be a hero after all)

Yea uh thats why i just said "staff" cause thats definetely not a halberd at least by the looks of it. And yes i did see! And dont get me wrong i love that its Ornn, one of my favourites after all, i just kinda was hoping for Aatrox, still im happy with this. They also did reveal what he does + his art/followers. Imo his gameplay will be really fun, just up my alley really since i like buffing my units to scale up. Art is nice too but his level up is really disappointing cause, its just him crafting a sword again... which we've seen already in the cinematic and in his recall, just a minor "rant" about wanting them to do something more creative, even just having us zoom into him crafting something only for Ornn to get distracted by a sound, the Hearthome turning into more flames alongside him as the sound is that of Volibear or whatnot, at the end Ornn grungily taking his hammer clearly intent on stopping the bear! Nothing really complicated but just more than him crafting a sword i guess...

True true yea, experience can only carry someone so far i suppose, especially when its indeterminate ammounts of experience so yea thanks for the heads up, good change for sure. And oh ofc ofc likewise, i just wanted to give all the info i could since i wasnt sure how up to date you are on the new SG stuff, but yea i do agree that the new changes are taking things a bit further than expected.

Yea uh it should definetely add at least some minimal points, Large Size that is ofc. I also dont really like that some powers are getting removed because they are "sub-powers", personally i think having them makes things a lot better since just having "element control" as an example doesnt really explain much at all, if anything id keep the "sub-powers" and remove the general ones if i had to pick that is, HOWEVER the best thing to do is leave both and only remove things which are truly too specific, or just too verse specific (Example being idk, Kamehameha being a power, that would be a verse specific sorta power i definetely wouldnt have around)
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Maybe Tianna and Eldred simply poison JIV or something to keep him in a catatonic state and then claim it's a wizard's fault or something. I do honestly prefer a dragon rescue that leads to Jarvan actually figuring out he's been a massive ass hole this whole time, but anything that moves that conflict forward is okay in my book. Yes, maybe there just being so much ambient magic around allows him to be awake and able to move, but he's still not at his max by any means. Might be interesting to see someone like Jayce or Heimer make a hexcore for him that allows him freedom of movement. Idk, guess I'm thinking another step ahead to see something of an alliance form between Piltover and Demacia while Zaun goes with Noxus.

I do like his card overall, as it's one part of our Mordekaiser idea, so I'm not going to complain too much. Yes, I wish they had released more than one Darkin champ and lost Norra, but Ornn has been sorely missed imo. I do like what they showed of his gameplay and, uh, yeah, that level up is weak. I would've preferred something along the lines of him getting into his battle attire, but alas. I do hope he gets some interactions with Braum as I think that would be a really fun deck. Also the idea of Ornn making tiny weapons and armor for Poros while Braum trains them is pure magic imo.

That's kind of why I generally set beings that are old but we have no real idea how good they are in a fight at 50. They surely know a thing or two, but I don't like to push the boundaries. Oh, you're fine, more information is always better. I've read through the wiki's synopsis of events, so I know the gist of what happened, but I do lack the specifics.

At least Galactus agreed with me on multi arms, so I'll take that as a win. And, yeah, I will always prefer nuance to broad strokes. I also think Element Control should be the Omni ability for that grouping and simply disable the rest. Getting rid of any of the component parts is absurd, especially when a lot of characters can only manipulate or generate one of those elements. I do think the elemental abilities should be split between Generate and Control abilities. Fire Force is a good series to represent this, as the Second Gen Pyros can control fire but can't generate their own flames while Third Generation can create their own flames but can't directly control them. It may sound pedantic, but it can make a huge difference. I do agree we have too many verse specific abilities like the Power Cosmic and the like that could be conglomerated into a single Cosmic Empowerment power while any specifics can be handled with other lesser abilities.
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Either blame it on mages or Sylas directly, public would probably believe if they blamed it on him since everyone thinks he killed J3 and everyone knows he had him imprisoned for a while, plus could just have "stress" as the excuse but yea generally same idea either way. Yea far from max or even being able to do most things he does normally but enough that he can still roam around freely, and jump to action when needed ofc!. Piltover would likely be quite willingly to get into an alliance to get their hands on some petricite and Demacia can most definetely use help right now considering the state their nation is in, doesnt help at all that the rebellion is led by a guy who might figure out how to go around petricite so getting some new convetional weaponry from Piltover could be very useful to edge out in the conflict.

I hope to hell now that Ornn is added to the path of champions with Braum being the mid-level boss, all of it happening due to Braum accidentally causing an avalanche to save some poros! All of them of course landing right ontop of Ornn, with poros surrounding him at all sides while Braum kindly asks him to make a sled or just helmets for his adorable friends, which results in the "fight" as Ornn just wants his peace and quiet from the very numerous poros and Braum. Other than that uh seemingly your "Kayle idea" migth actually come out sooner than expected because, this card was leaked

I guess only shame would be that it would mean Kayle is a Targon champ which, i mean yea technically but, i definetely would prefer Demacia. Then again it could also just be a random targon card that isnt affiliated at all to her, although i would say thats unlikely

Hmmm yea honestly il even lower to 55 then, i think your line of thought is pretty solid, gonna start using it quite a bit myself in the future for sure. I see i see, whelp il be sure to mention things if neccessary then, assuming they arent some of the main info that is but ye

Thankfully thankfully, although seemingly "tentacles" are putting that idea into question, which i dont think should be the case cause yet again, someone having tentacles is cool i guess but, having 10 tentacles sure is better than 2. Huge agree on the element control stuff. Hmmm i see i see had no idea but cool info, either way uh definetely agree on that too, sure some might see it as pedantic but personally i dont at all, if i was the one organizing thing would definetely be impleneted. (Along with a whole load of extra sub-powers being added)
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I mean, Sylas is the patsy that keeps on giving and seeing as he's essentially a terrorist at this point I doubt anyone would think he wasn't behind the beloved prince's disappearance from the public eye. Honestly, if Galio was able to move freely, I would love to see some comics of him and Lux (probably Ezreal and Garen too) travelling around Demacia so he can learn about the nation he protects. Also might be a way for him to get a canon meeting with Veigar. Yes, exactly what I was thinking. And despite everything Piltover likes to say about being the city of tomorrow, they are a very conservative political entity. Plus having such a large and powerful militant nation on their side would be good both for testing prototypes as well as having a conventional force to call on if they're under threat. Definitely would end up being a mutually beneficial arrangement while also pushing Zaun and Noxus together. Could lead to an interesting Valoran wide conflict after some Zaun tech is found with the Mage rebels or Rell has gotten her hands on some Piltover tech. That kind of event, while still massive, would be a nice change of pace from the world ending ones we've seen so far. Would also give a way to shake up the political order in Noxus or Demacia based on who's fairing the worst. I think it'd need to be a year long event, though.

I love that scenario! It'd be so precious and it could lead to Ornn also discovering that Braum's shield is Ornn's door. And Ornn's just like "But that's not what that's for?" Honestly, those two would be great companions and if the Demigods were ever to choose a representative/champion, Braum would have to be Ornn's. Welp, that card definitely looks like the swords that fall for Kayle's ult. I could see her being Targon/Demacia, but the latter is more important to her than the former. I would rather that be a random card than anything.

That works fine for me, shows she's competent but combat's not her focus. Yes, always fill me in on all the spicy tidbits you can. I did the same for you for Ruined King and honestly it really helps get characters feeling right.

I have made a pitch to save tentacles, but it's okay if we lose it as long as limbs stays. I'll pitch the idea of a seperation of control and generation, but I can perfectly well work with them being one power. And as long as they have good descriptions and/or names, I don't think it's unreasonable. I've made the case of reducing the "The ____" DC stuff to just "Elemental" to make that more general. I don't see a point in having those be distinct as you can just select Elemental and then add in the specific ability (like plant control for the green) and thus we've cut down the list considerably.
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Oh absolutely, Lux standing on his shoulder as he slowly flies around demacia with her using the light magic as a pointer to the next new thing the two of them need to see, all while the people below them are wondering what Galio is doing flying around with a mage. Id say Garen would have to be a very recurring side character for the comic, probably there makign sure to reprimind both of them whenever Galio accidentally destroys something by landing too fast, and of course telling Lux to be more careful since there is no way a guy like Garen doesnt mentiion it. Ezreal on other hand would be better to be added as another main character alongside Galio and Lux during an issue or two, probably Lux meeting him in a market or somewhere, because it would be funny if Ezreal was trying to find something really rare to try and impress Lux once they met again, but everything he found pales quite a bit in comparison once Lux introduces him to her giant flying rock colossus friend! It probably would be a year long event but honestly, it could even be a longer and i wouldnt mind that, rather than an alright conflict they could just escalate the situation and leave it there for a bit, as i doubt either side wants to go to war that badly, Demacia being in a civil war and Noxus still likely recovering from all of Darkwill's never ending conquests.

Oh yea most definetely, Braum's quite cheerful and almost bubbly personality would bounce off really funnily against Ornn's stoic but still caring one, i imagine he'd definetely like Braum just would ever admit it outloud. Likewise, but hey its just leaks and they could possibly be fake/false, so who knows we might never find out. Other than that, the next skinline for LoR will be Corrupted, which is essentially just "voidy" corrupted versions of Targonian aspects (Zoe, Diana, Leona, Taric and Pantheon) Personally i dont like them too much, i think Zoe's level 2 one looks cool but at the same time it looks too much like a Dark Star skin.

Dont like the other ones much at all really, some of them i really dislike too (Diana and Leona). If you want i can send the rest of them later on too, just in case you want an early preview that is and dont feel like searching yourself.

Yea limbs would be more important in the end but oh well we will see i guess. Thats pretty good cause "The ___" DC powers were probably among the more redundant ones at least imo. Seeing as the updates/changes are almost done id have to say it was a pretty good decision to go with it in the end, dont think anything that important got removed yet and a lt of things got upgraded sooo yea
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It would be so precious while also being a good way to explore Demacia. Alongside Garen, I think it would be good to meet other Demacian characters like Quinn and Fiora out on the job. Especially Quinn, because I've always liked her joke that insinuates she has a huge crush on JIV. Yes, I like that kind of interaction with Lux and Ez, especially with Galio just over shadowing everything he tries to do to impress her. Could also reference his interactions with her in the Path of Champions and maybe get in an interaction where Galio is like, I think that funny little man likes you with Lux blushing. I really like their dynamic both as characters and in gameplay terms for both LoL and LoR. Honestly, if they wanted to use the conflict to have focused content on smaller regions while the war goes on, I'd be all for it. And yeah, I think more than a year would be good, but I always worry about people getting too fatigued. Maybe breaking it up into 2 month mini-events focused on battles and sieges would help as then the cast that's involved would keep changing while also consistently increasing the scope at a reasonable pace.

And that's exactly what makes the two such a good pair. Braum comes to Ornn with problems and Ornn makes a solution, but Braum just uses it in a completely baffling, yet effective way. And afterwards Ornn is just flabbergasted, but secretly curious to see what else Braum will pull off. Also, gotta have him get some Forge Poros that assist him. Huh, intersting. The Leona one strongly reminds me of the Soul Edge possessed characters from Soul Caliber. The only one I don't really like is Diana and that's mainly because the pose is super lame. I will be interested to see what the lore for this line is. Maybe the void focused on the celestial realm first and is now spreading their corruption through the aspect process? (I found a link to the rest, but thanks for the offer!) Edit: Added to the Path of Champions are Ashe, Diana, Jax, Kayn, Leona, Yi, Ornn and Veigar.

I was hoping to do my pitch for the separation of control and creation now, but time won't allow it. I do hope Galactus decides to do the Elemental thing because there are a fair number of Magic characters that are Elementals and I just don't have a way to represent it.
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Mhm yea ofc, although aside from those 4 (Lux, Galio, Ez, Garen) id have more or less any other demacian appear very sparingly, a focus for one story or twow at most or whatnot sorta thing, still want most of the focus to be on them. Yep yep, pretty much all which i had in mind, maybe the story can end with them finally getting into a semi-real relationship of sorts, nothing too direct since both would probably have a pretty hard time asking the other out but something thats obviously existant in the background. Hmmm yea the mini events is much better, imo it would need to be very background heavy aside from those bi-monthly mini events we would have, only to actually have its own large event in the end after being built up for a few years.

Oh yes exactly, Leona and for me especially Pantheon remind me heavily of some SC characters, hell Pantheon looks extremely similar to Nightmares alternate appearance (The one where he wears less armor). As far as its lore goes im pretty sure its something just like that really, void corrupting aspects and whatnot but oh well, and np ofc anytime!

Gonna do the LoR stuff here cause YES! I was actually just about to tell you about the same thing, really excited to play Ornn, Kayn and Jax in path. But what i like a lot lot more are the new "Weekly Adventures" cause damn, thats quite literally the only thing LoR needed, because at times it can be a bit annoying/boring to repeat a mission that we have beaten plenty of times, the weekly system should help with that a whole lot. To say the least likely will spam a whole lot of LoR today.

Thats a shame, but oh well lets hope for the best. I did see the list of all the powers he plans to remove and honestly, i kinda disagree with a lot of them, will very likely post my opinions on that, at least on the ones i really think shouldnt be removed.
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Yeah, no Quinn and any others are purely one off characters that they meet for one issue just so that we can see those characters in action. It would be funny to see Galio trying to learn how to fence, though. Yeah, leave their relationship status kind of vague, but like they're exchanging letters at the very least. And like super wholesome letters too, because we can use a little wholesomeness in our super serious series. Bi monthly minievents definitely work and by doing them at that frequency and by utilizing player input, it can direct the course of the conflict and lead to that final large event that can finally unveil a true big bad, which could be Mordekaiser having needed this to truly return or someone else. It could be really cool and really get the entire player base involved.

Honestly I really like Taric's art as well as he seems to be the only one that realizes what's going on. I am super happy over all with the skin line, especially as it's original. Maybe it's hinting at things to come? There was a dev post I saw that they were talking about LoR skins coming to LoL...

Yes! The weekly adventures are such a good addition. It's gonna make grinding out the new characters much more satisfying imo. So, I unlocked Ornn with my wild essence and I do like his deck well enough. He seems to work quite well with Shyvanna imo. I'm gonna be working for Veigar next, as I love his voice lines.

I saved animation, so I'm fairly happy with that turn of events. If you have opinions on ones you think should stay, weigh in! Worse case scenario he says no and that's the end of it.
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Oh Galio would work for great comedy, learning fencing with Fiora, maybe having a race with Valor (and Quinn) only to completely outpace them in an almost comical manner, but most of all i would want him to meet Malphite! I know he isnt demacian in any stretch but i just want the two rock fellas to meet with each other, especially as i feel they would probably like each other quite a bit. Yea id absolutely love that, could be used to give at least minimal story advancments to champions who really need it, and i doubt anyone would mind Mordekaiser being the big bad of the longest event since im pretty sure Mordekaiser is amongst the most popular villains from a lore perspective, the only one that i think is on around a same level in the community is Aatrox. Which tbf i like both myself, Aatrox more cause i like Shurima lore more.

I like Taric's level 1, cant say the same about the level 2 one because idk, it feels like it loses that part of Taric you mentioned and replaces it with him just being more angry of sorts, which i guess could just be him lashing out due to what they've become or whatnot but i dont get that feel from the art at least. And yea uh i mean as far as the concept goes? HELL YEA, i absolutely adore any skinline which is just a "slight twist" on the main canon universe, and i mean having the aspects get corrupted is probably one of the best ideas around for that type of skinline, i just dont like the execution unfortunately. Could be the skinline that comes over tbf, none of the champions in it got a skin very recently (besides Ashen Knight Pantheon but thats a mythic exclusive) so i will just assume they might be testing the waters to see how they fare in LoR

Ive just unlocked Kayn for now since well, yea the free 30 fragments help a ton, cant wait to play Ornn myself, and while i would like to play Veigar personally i will likely first just upgrade Kayn to 2 stars, and get Ornn to the same. Cause oh damn, i went to beat Thresh with Garen, managed to get Kayn as my supporting champion and i absolutely adore using him, more specifically Rhaast, only went for Shadow Assasin once just to see how it is but, imo Rhaast is a lot better in Path of champions at least. Also gotta mention but the Shadow Isles map looks absolutely gorgeous, Thresh himself might be the easiest 3 star yet tho, the only fight which is really hard is the Yeti one, which i would highly advise against playing.

Whelp im gonna try with Afterimage Creation cause while i think its overused and overgiven, its also a real power but oh well we will see. Of course there are a lot more i wouldnt remove but well i can see some reasonings for them at least.
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I also want to see Galio trying to apply stealth and tracking skills her learned from Quinn. Oh, yes, they would be best buds for sure. I think they have some lines in LoR, but it wouldn't be that hard to make them meet, as Malphite roams the continent looking for void infections. I do think Morde would make the most sense, but Aatrox and the other Darkin could work as well. Maybe they're trying to get enough blood shed so they can reattain their presealing levels of power? Or something along those lines.

Oh, yeah, definitely prefer the first one, but I think the transformed artwork is also strikes me as Taric's not in control of his body anymore, but he's still aware and thus the blood tears. I really do like the concept as you said too, although I do think it needs some more work. I would still 1000% like to see explicitly evil aspect champs though and this is close to what I'd like. Honestly, I just hope they move the LoR exclusive Worldbreaker skins over first.

So you're liking Kayn well enough then? I got him unlocked but haven't gotten the chance to try him out yet. I hadn't gone to fight Thresh yet, so I'll give you my thoughts when I unleash Annie on him.

I think you made some good points on Afterimage Creation, although I can see people arguing to just simply use illusions... That being said, I think too many things are getting lumped into that one power.

New Dev Diary. Nothin too crazy, just some info on some new types of achievements and modding.

Sooooo, apparently Jun:

is the wielder of the Darkin Bloodletters:

And if she gives into them (against Yi's wishes), she becomes Xolaani:

Which is all very cool, especially as Xolaani was apparently a healer before becoming a Darkin, so she might end up becoming the Darkin supp?
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Worst case scenario they could just make it a very fairly random occurance where Lux and Ez go camping on some "mountain", but it just so happens that they ended up setting camp on Malphite's shoulder as he was deep in his slumber, him waking up just as Galio was flying while carrying all the camping trip supplies. Oh yea absolutely absolutely, i do like Darkin more and, there likely could be better built up with them, as the mini-events could be Varus freeing the leftover Darkin, or even just Aatrox finding a decent enough host. I imagine most of them would likely want to return to their prevous power and likely try and have revenge against Targon, although i can also see some of them seeing the futility of that.

Hmmmm, good point yea, well either way Taric is imo by far the best one and the only one i like of the skinline. Yea now that you mention it we dont actually have an evil aspect, or a real targon villain at all tbf? Ironically Kayle is probably the most evil of the aspects but even then its only cause she is, obssessed with Justice "a bit too much", but still even she isnt evil. And yea for sure, Worldbreaker ones are amazing.

Mhm, ive played with Kayn, Jax and Ornn, Jax only as supporting champion, and i gotta say, i actually really like all of them, havent gotten to play with Yi or Norra yet (and dont intend to play Norra) so no comments on them but those 3? Absolutely love them, i think Kayn is my favourite while Ornn and Jax come just behind, i kinda really like the equipment system as a whole too sooo i would say a pretty darn good expansion.

Absolutely agree on that, illusions should be saved just for abilities that actually make well, illusions, if something actually exists and is used as a trick (like afterimages as example) that should not be an illusion whatsoever.

Yea well short and simple, i do really like the addition of the Playthrough stats overview thingy, its just something that i always liked having around.

Could actually yea, which is pretty cool cause i didnt actually know how to make a Darkin Supp work but i guess, just having the Darkin be a healer in the past is far easier of a solution that i thought would be needed. Probably would have a single target heal ability that stores damage dealt as a charge, that can be then used to heal allies for more than the heal would do itself, something like Soraka W, just with the extra Damage Dealt part. (no self cause would be very annoying).

I guess kinda connected but also not too much, i dont actually like that they introduced 4 new darkin, because well, now its impossible for it to just be 5 darkin in total, the part i dislike more tho is that aside from Xolaani who is seemingly working against the other Darkin and returned through taking over Jun, the three other darkin "awakened" because, Aatrox (refered to as "general" but a writer confirmed its Aatrox) called for them which... First it doesnt make any sense at all because a Darkin cant break out of their weapon because they are the weapon, they dont have a physical body outside of it (without having a host). I guess that part could just be "somewhat explained" if they werent actually sealed but were just in hiding (although i dont like it too much, its possible considering Nasus could hide for same ammount of time himself). But secondly it kinda makes Varus a bit pointless no? Assuming Xolaani is the 4th of the five sealed Darkin, that would leave just the last one for Varus to free in a way.
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That would work well enough to set off that chain of events. Maybe throw in a a hive of voidlings for an action scene and we've got a fun issue. I honestly struggle to think of any known characters that would work for Aatrox better than Tryndamere and the only Noxian non-champ that strikes me as a potential host would be maybe Captain Farron? He's got the same berserker style as Tryn. Or they could always go nuts and have Sion seize the Darkin Blade... Plz no. Honestly, having the finale of the war be a battle between the Darkin and the Aspects would be pretty epic. Would be a cool way to have a temporary truce between the Solari and Lunari.

Yeah, I guess Kayle would be the closest thing. Could maybe argue that Zoe is antagonistic, but she's chaotic neutral at worst. I guess ASol is antagonistic too, but that doesn't count. The closest thing I can even argue for an evil celestial would be The Great Beyond because it might want to help free ASol. There's also the Scourge, but that's just Baron... IN SPACE.

I do really like Ornn, he just starts a little slow. I also did one of the missions and got Jax unlocked and I do indeed like him. He pairs really well with Ornn. I've played Yi and if I'm being honest, he just doesn't feel good to me. I feel like I'm playing a wizard deck and not a swordsman's deck. I too have no intention of touching Norra. Wasted champ slot imo. But, yes, equipment is pretty good and I hope they do more with it, maybe try to do some more outside the box thinking. I hope we get some of the items from League as equips too like BotRK.

Again, we're hitting up the nuance argument. I also think Deconstruction should stay, but the molecular stuff will do.

Oh yeah, I am not gonna complain. I just always hope they're gonna drop some tips for how to get secret play throughs going like they did with the HRE for Germany.

I definitely like the idea of an aggressive (yet hopefully frail) support that heals in the way you said. Maybe they could have her able to build up a gauge that when she uses an ability it drains one full bar to empower it. I can also see one of her abilities being an ankle slash to do a sweeping slow as well.

So, this is my theory (and it's probably wrong) but maybe the follower Darkin we' got are lesser Darkin like how there were Ascended like Nasus and Renekton, but also "common" ascended. That's the only way I can think to really justify it. From reading their flavor texts, it looks like Horazi/Lodestone seduced a Targonian while Naganeka appears to have attached to some kind of animal. Taarosh on the other hand... I really have no idea what his host is supposed to be. I was pretty thorough on Ruined King, but there's nothing that really fits with his body type outside of maybe one of the Spectral Riders... but that doesn't make sense either. I would guess too that maybe the Darkin have some kind of telepathy and Aatrox merely helped them awaken with his calls. This is where I really wish we would get some short stories to explain these kind of drastic changes. But, yeah, that'd leave only the Daggers for Varus to wake up.
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I wonder how that would even work considering Sion is technically dead but alive at the same time? Could Aatrox even take him over? And if so would Sion ever detoriate like all of Aatrox's other hosts or not? An interesting topic to think about really but, still probably just Tryndamere being the best one, and assuming they dont want to kill him of then Farron would work as well.

Yea i mean, kinda but, at the same time they are more "monstruous" by nature, and are technically "fake" celestials in a way since Aurelion was the one that created them rather than them being aspects or whatnot. I guess one could argue The Aspect of War was kinda evil as he didnt mind serving under Viego at all back in the Ruination, as long as he got to do his fighting that is.

Uhhh yeeeeea that is one thing, i only have Ornn at 1 star right now and honestly, i think his 1 star power is really underwhelming, very cool for Ornn and plays into his gameplay nicely but, he does essentially just get a 1 cost +1/+1 which is, pretty damn slow i guess? The part i mind a bit more about him tho is that he is a 7 cost but even after being summoned he still kinda requires 1 to 2 turns to actually start putting in a lot of work with the Ram and all that. Id also like if they added more Lore relevant items, BOTRK being best example and another being Serylda's grudge, a good candidate for a new one would be Sivir's/Setaka's chalicar, its probably among the most important weapons in the lore right now and a pretty unique one too.

Mhm that would work pretty well, assuming the E is the sweeping slow and the W is the heal, for Q it could just be her tossing her weapons with them returning back similarly to Ahri's Q or Sivir Q after reaching the max range, to make it a bit more unique id maybe add a new effect where insteal of it healing her directly or being just healing reduction, id have it apply an effect that steals healing from enemies, perhaps would steal 30% of heals for, 3 seconds after the enemy was hit? Hence if Soraka for example was to heal someone for 100 hp, Xolaani would steal 30hp of that heal for herself. Honestly that could be implemented as a whole playstyle for her, with even her passive and ult somehow playing into stealing the enemy healing and shielding, would fit a Darkin support from a design perspective in a way too, an ex-healer corrupted by becoming a darkin, now still having some healing herself through W but mostly healing and supporting through absorbing things from enemies.

Tbf i actually thought the same thing, they could just be some of the "lesse/weaker" Darkin hence they managed to slip past Targon's grasp so hey if you are wrong we are wrong together alright. Taarosh was, probably something we havent seen il imagine, the thing he most reminds me of is a Cloud Drinker but he should also be bigger if that was the case so, yea... I mean probably, especially as they treat Aatrox like their leader of sorts so it could just be a thing between them in specific rather than an all encompasing Darkin thing, not that its hard to believe the Darkin could have a connection like that, after all they do all share the same power source and the same type of magic, they probably all know each other too since they all had to fight against the void at some point at least. Either way im sure they will add at least some extra info on it as they are likely very aware the community loves Darkin stuff.
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Honestly, the only reason I think they could make Sion work is because of his soul furnace. Other than that, he's not workable, although it would be a cool image to say the least. Maybe to get Tryndamere to a point where he is forced to take up the blade, the Freljord could be pulled into the fighting with the Winter's Claw being some what unwilling allies of Noxus (maybe there was a LB false flag) and the Avarosan capital is besieged and the walls eventually breached. Thus Tryndamere has no other option than to accept Aatrox to help save his people. Obviously that would need a good deal of set up, but it could be a cool enough moment and maybe see the Nightmare Tryndamere skin updated and made canon. Other than that, yeah, I still think Farron's a good temporary host at least and I wouldn't put it as outside the realm of possibility for Swain to want to exploit the Darkin as weapons.

Yeah, they're not true Celestials. I would honestly argue The Warrior is antagonistic but not evil. He just wants to fight and Viego gave him that opportunity. More of a force of sentient nature than anything. God, now I just imagined a skin line of what if skins for other champs becoming the hosts for the aspects like Darius becoming the Aspect of War. Or Tryndamere could work too.

Yeah, uh, I wish it didn't summon the Forge too, as that hogs one of your deployment zones. If the power was just adding the card in hand each turn it would be okay, if slow. Yeah, him being a 7 cost 4/4 is rough, but I've found equipping him with the regen item from the start helps him out immensely. Those two are good. I'd also like Nashor's as maybe a rare improvise option and then Infinity Edge and maybe Zhonya's as well. The latter could be a fun "if the unit I'm equipped to would die, return me to the hand instead and set the follower's health to their previous value." Make it like a 5 cost too so you can't really exploit it. I definitely want the chalicar too, as we really need that story pushed forward.

Yes, I would say either do the Q as a normal-ish skill shot with the effects you suggested and maybe give it 2 charges so she can throw two in quick succession before going on a long cooldown. I do like the idea of the heal stealing, but I do wonder how effective it would be. As long as it's an additional effect kind of thing, it doesn't hurt in any way. And it does really fit the champion concept quite well.

I feel like that's just the answer that makes the most sense. And now that you mention the Cloud Drinker, the body shape does match. Are there people that ride those perhaps? And then the domesticated ones are thus smaller? But then why would they be in the Shadow Isles... hmmmm. But, yeah, them having some kind of telepathic link makes some degree of sense, especially as they should all be comrades from that war. I will say I'm kind of happy they ripped the bandage off like this instead of doing it in dips and drabs. I do imagine we'll eventually get a "lesser" Darkin for each region. The Balista also mentions them going to Icathia... perhaps that'll be how the Void event kicks off?
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That could work to force his hand, if not that they could just either make it a small void incursion causing him to take up the blade, or just the Ursine and Volibear causing troubles as they always do. One way or another the "hardest" part of it would be deciding to go through with it since it could be a bit of a risky progression for Tryndamere, dont really think Tryndamere fans would hate it or dislike it at all, but then again who knows. I do think in general it would be fine if champions got actual endings to their stories, either them completing their goals or just well dying in a battle or whatnot.

Ohhhh interesting skinline, Darius or Tryndamere would make a pretty good one, other candidate id have for the Aspect of War is Kayn, maybe changing out his dynamic so that he isnt in strugle for control with Rhaast but rather the aspect. (although removing Rhaast from a skin would be a shame it would still work really nicely i feel) Other than that the one champ that instantly comes to mind is Fizz being the host for The Aspect of Twilight, if anyone besides Zoe can pull it off its probably him, plus we havent ever gotten a non-human/vastayan host, which i guess makes kinda sense since there doesnt appear to be that many of them around Mt. Targon, but it still would be a neat thing.

Unfortunately i dont have Warmogs yet! So no regen for poor old Ornn for me... Still he is very fun but very very slow, i think he is for sure one of the weaker champions in Path, another change that could help is if his "time and dedication" costed 0 mana, assuming it comes from the free forge. Ohhh, yea that sounds good for Zhonyas, i would also have it be very weak in base stats, maybe only give +0/+1 purely because the effect itself is that strong, and pretty unique too so id prefer if it was balanced around that and was a 5 cost, than if it had good stats and had to be a 6 or a 7 cost.

If the cooldown is really long which (2 second between charges, and 20 seconds for each charge, 40 in total), it should be i would also add some way to lower it, to play into the darkin idea maybe the cooldown would get reduced by a second for each 50 damage Xolaani does? Which is roughly a second per auto which should well, be either kinda balanced or even a bit but thats just numbers, either way that addition would give more gameplay and skill expression for the really good players, while also fitting with the whole Darkin damage=healing thing. Hmmm, i imagine it could be pretty effective, i mean in an ideal situation she could just steal 30% of a Soraka's ult worth of healing but, that is an unlikely situation tbf, still, its an idea to be balanced around and would also give a new counterpick option against enchanters, so that people that dont like playing Blitzcrank or other similar hook champions can still deal with said enchanters effectively. And yea additional effect only ofc, dont want her to be an insta-win counterpick, just someone who is effective against them.

Hmmmmmm, none confirmed but it could be possible i guess. About him being a Shadow Isles unit... I have no idea, that doesnt really have an explanation considering, nobody really knew about the isles before Kalista and Viego, which would mean that the Darkin also couldnt know about it sooo it would be impossible for him to be well from Shadow isles... Eh, il just assume Taarosh was placed into Shadow Isles due to gameplay reasonings.

Also on other news, some new leaks dropped about the whole Ruination book and all that and we finally got a vague map of what the eastern continent could look like!



Valoran does look a bit different than it does on the world map we have but thats probably because this is just a map of what people from Camavor and The Eastern Continent know, which is supported because the Blessed/Shadow Isles arent noted down on the map at all. There are some other nice leaks too, some about who we could be seeing in there alongside some art for them, and we also get a view on Viego's family tree, small part of it but still nice.
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Either of those scenarios work as well. And I think it's just a natural progression of both character's stories. And it's not like it would be the end for Tryndamere, as I'm sure they could devise a way to free him if necessary. I think it'd be a good way to raise the stakes as well and maybe we could get an Ashe + Braum vs Aatrox/Tryndamere fight. And yes, I think it's fine for champs to have end points for their stories. It's not like if they were to die in the event you wouldn't be able to play them anymore.

Oh, yes, I do like the idea of Kayn being the host of the Warrior. IT'd be sad to not have Rhaast, but I feel like it would still be a very similar dynamic. Oh, I do like Fizz for Twilight or Lulu could work well in that role. I think Braum for Protector would make sense. I also think Nami could make a really good aspect of the Moon due to her lore.

Oh shoot! It's honestly one of the best common relics imo. Yes, unfortunately slow decks just aren't as good as the quicker decks in Path. I've found some success with Ornn by taking the power that gives you an extra mana gem, but it's not like that's always guaranteed. I have a feeling the time and dedication will become 0 cost at 3 stars, but yeah, that should've been that way from the start. It's too hard to use it reliably when it costs 1. Plus his mana curve is way too back loaded. Yeah, I was def thinking 0/1 or even 0/0 because that effect is so powerful. But, yeah weak stats with a powerful but niche effect for 5 would be worth it as a one off if anything, especially in a protect the castle deck.

Yes, I think that downside woould be good to make sure she's not a spammy champ while still allowing her to harrass in lane. I would say maybe keep the cooldown only associated with her AAs so that we don't get someone max APing her and getting infi re charges or something like that. I mean, I think the health stealing could be very strong but still very situational. And I'll never say no to a more varied repetoire of counters in bot lane.

I think the idea for Taarosh is that he was originally entombed there when it was the Blessed Isles and he got revived after the change? Kinda weak reasoning, but yeah, I think they're just trying to have a Darkin in each region.

Hmmm, yeah, the proportions look off to me, especially Valoran. It's just so tiny and the Serpent Isles look really far away. I think the Blessed Isles are just part of the chain for the Serpent Isles, but they still should be labelled. The Buhru are, after all. Oooo, I always want more info that pertains to world building. Hopefully now that we're getting the King Viego skin we'll get the human forms of the other Isles champs. Even Hecarim. And make it cursed AF.
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They could always just say that he survived the process due to being "immortal" for as long as he was, essentially making the power Aatrox gave him his own over the years. But yea exactly that, even if someone dies they shouldnt be removed from the game, i think that was also a big problem with the Ruination thing because... nobody died at all and, everything kinda just went back to how it was, including Viego being sealed who i think most so should've likely just died because well, he already had his story, finally passing on would be a good sendoff for him especially because Thresh is likely the one in control of the mist now? Not confirmed ofc but he did take control of "Viego's power" at the end so he really is in a weird situation where he is kept around but doesnt have much of a purpose.

I was trying to think of someone for the protector myself, couldnt think of anyone but Braum is actually such a good fit, same with Nami. It would maybe also be cool if Kayle and Morgana were hosts for the Sun and Moon aspects respectively since it would mirror their current lore a bit while keeping them different, although the only problem could be that they arent different enough from who/what they are rn.

Probably but even if it does become 0 cost at 3 stars, thats, quite a weak 3 stars upgrade compared to Darius for example. Although Darius' 3 star is too impactful imo but still just wanted to get my point across i guess, but oh well i guess he is just supposed to be good in "regular play" and not so much in path, still very enjoyable to play just harder than a lot of others.

It is probably just the region thing but at same time im more or less fine with that really, assuming he was in hiding The Blessed Isles are likely one of the best options, not too hard to get there too considering he can fly by looks of it.

Hmmm well actually not really, the Blessed Isles are a whole separate island group from the Serpant Isles, can even be seen in the world map that we already have

That aside tho yea uh proportions are VASTLY off, Ionia is too damn small and so is everything above Piltover/Zaun, Icathia is also far too big but, yea il just assume people from Camavor did not explore it well enough to make a completely accurate map.

Oh i would love those skins myself, honestly King Viego is one of my favourite skins of the year, obviously because i think it looks nice both in splash and game but especially because its a canon skin for how Viego used to be, with that in and because you do mention Hecarim and Co we did get some art leaked from the book for the rest of them back when they were humans, even got Thresh's full name revealed which is quite nice.



masterking2
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Have you seen Digimon frontier and if so opinions?
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I've actually been watching it and I do like it for the most part. I think the pacing gets stupid occasionally, but I like the gimmick of the digi-destined turning into the digimon.
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Great,wanted to know if I should give it a watch.
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Cool, let me know what you think. I was mainly watching it to do the profiles for the website and ended up enjoying myself, although Tommy is pretty annoying until he gets the Beast spirit.
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Welp bummer Mr_Inocgnito is gone. Wish this never would have happened again but it did.
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We'll see. I think he gets flustered too easily some times. I don't think it's impossible that he'll return.
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30 reached sooo back here we go.

Oh didnt know about the nukes, only knew about the assault rifles, the more you know. But yea no i think it can start off as a decision, and the an event system along with a new research breach being "revealed" would work for the best. Hell maybe id even make it a bit random at the start, so instead of needing to add a specific tech tree for Germany, maybe just a research slot would be lost to "secret projects" for some time, and while we could influence it, id make it so we cant truly pick what we get for the first project to sort of make it really seem like nobody really knows where things are going. Of course later on id make it so we can both choose and it is more efficient, BUT i would also make the secret projects take A LOT of resources, maybe even lower our overall research speed depending on how the war is going overall or just how much we are investing into it. Yeap absolutely same, even worse because, Rockets were never any good but now there is just so much more important and better stuff to use resourcess on. Oh no not at all, i like what you mentioned, imo, id say whether its a full civil war or not would depend on if we actually manage to assassinate Hitler, if we do i think your version of the civil war would work great but still if we fail id probably make it a full out thing, with the odds likely being very stacked against us.

Hmmm yea imo Kayle rework would fit among the fairly good ones, along the lines of Mordekaiser (great lore and looks but gameplay is kinda ass imo so just "fairly good). Nothing amazing but just good reworks for both. A bit off and on topic but my 3 favourite reworks would no doubt be Fiddle, Pantheon and (Ryze 14th one) Galio, i feel those 3 have got more or less perfect gameplay for what they should be along with everything else also being perfect.

Huh i didnt even think about that, yea that could be possible i guess. Yea i will change Kai'sa asap then, gonna first work on Rhaast since he got released and damn it was a long time coming, will make sure to tell you when i think im done. About Eve i guess i might try fitting one of the new ones in but worst case scenario i will just add them to her gallery. Oh damn we really did, kinda funny how a lot of things we mentioned are getting added into LoR, still tho he looks pretty flashy, could be decent as a late game card too.

Yea you dont need to hurry too much, the event lasts for 31 more days and each chapter is unlocked after a week so chapter 2 will only be around on the 21st, to go through a full chapter you only need to win 6 games (or play 9 and lose 9), not sure how many points are given for TFT but really shouldn't be a problem to go through it. Honestly i dont really think thats the case, more so i think she was just always working with Zoe, thinking that since for whatever reason her and Zoe do spend a lot of time together without any other guardians around, first them fighting in the park with neither seemingly being damaged and then later on Syndra trying to find Zoe among other planets, she also seems to cover her left eye which is an interesting detail considering Zoe's right eye is the "crazy looking one" so that could be a connection between them too, either way that combined with the chapter 2 art being them together and nobody really knowing how or when she became a SG i think it could be pretty possible her and Zoe have just been teammates all along. If anything i think Zoe and Syndra are a separate group of villains from Morgana and Fiddlesticks who do work together from what we've seen in the story as of now, i do think its possible that the two group could combine to fight the new SG's, or they could also fight amongst each other too but that part is far too speculative, still fun to think about tho. Nope Lux didnt get one, only the new 8 SG's got them unfortunately...

As much as i would absolutely adore seeing Battlecast get even a similar level of an event, i caant really see it, since even high noon didnt get one and High Noon is a lot more popular than Battlecast. No need to mention at all how much more popular SG is than Battlecast too : /
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Yeah, Hitler was really fickle with what he did and did not want to be developed. Actually, I do like the idea of you just having to lock in that tech tree slot and kind of hoping for the best. And yes, the secret projects absolutely have to take resources away from other very important things. Maybe one of the downsides to going down the SS path is that things do start to get less efficient for factory output due to the higher up stealing from vital wartime projects for their own goals. Yes, if Hitler dies, you get the mini civil war. If he survives the attempt you should then be able to go down the historic path and lose whatever generals you recruited and maybe get some SS crappy replacements or you could commit to doing the civil war. The benefit I see for doing the latter is maybe if you're already at war with the Soviets and the Allies, for example, you could make promises and concessions to get their aid. And by concessions I mean like the complete liberation of France and the like once the civil war is over. Of course, this likely wouldn't apply if the Yalta Conference has taken place. As per rockets I really don't know how to make them viable within the constraints of the game.

Morde's rework was fantastic from a lore and visual perspective, no doubt. Honestly just don't like his new ult and the rest was fine. Galio's rework was absolutely phenomenal. Loved his personality and look and everything. He went from an eh champ to one of my favorites. Ryze's was fine, but his gameplay has always felt off to me. Feels like he needs a quest system or something. Fiddle is one I've only ever seen in videos, but he is much creepier now, which I do appreciate. And he doesn't have the stupid stand still for a second to get a speed boost passive. When they first reworked Cass's passive to have the rabaddon's quest was one of my favorites. Made me play her more aggressively. And then they just gave her boots...

Eh, it's just a theory and if it's true it's a neat way to see Camavor. Oh yes, I saw Rhaast was unleashed! Looking forward to see how he turns out. Yeah, Eve's LoL splash is perfectly workable and represents her well, so not much to lose there. I'm gonna be real, I don't understand the whole half mask aesthetic of the mageseekers, but we are knocking it out of the park predicting cards. Eldred does look like a good card for the late game if things have turned into a slugging match. Might not be too bad with Illaoi.

Oh, that's a pretty generous amount of time. Worst case scenario if no points are awarded for TFT, I'll just go to my library and play on my lap top some. Huh, yeah, no that does make sense. I guess I'm used to these narratives only have two sides to them. I do wonder then how the two Nemesi are going to fit into the narrative, then. Oh, I meant I hadn't seen them post any art for a SG Lux skin in LoR. Looks like the rest of her time (except Janna for obvious reasons) are getting them, so I thought that was a little odd. We'll have to see when that actually drops, though.

I think it would be a good way to spark interest in the line by quite a good amount. And even if it wasn't to the same scale as this one and was just a couple weeks, I would be super stoked. I'd also settle for a LoR only event too like Pulsefire got. Just give me a few pages of story to go with it. I'd love one for High Noon too. And Odyssey!

I've started work on Sun Goddess Karma and Worldbreaker Trundle!
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Whew was hoping id hear that cause i think with both of our ideas combined the secret weapon system could be really reaally good. Oh the factory output stuff sounds great, honestly really hope at least some of these ideas make it eventually into the game, Germany is already extremely fun to play but thats more so because of their importance and position, rather than their "gimmicks" with these id even say they would be almost unrivaled in terms of how fun they could be. Yea yea the concessions should only work if you are still actually doing good in the war, and even then i imagine things could end up pretty bad, especially since i imagine most of the other Axis members wouldn't get as kind of a treatment, at least i imagine the soviets would demand some of the polish lands if not even Romania as a satellite state or whatnot. If anything i would like to see Paradox look into more of those concession peace deals, cause sometimes it would be nice to not death-war things, and it could also come in extremely handy for multiplayer, cause as is the surrender mechanic blows ass in multiplayer, you need to get half of your country destroyed to get to the peace deal which is too much imo.

Well yea basically just his ult is the problem but we already talked about that cause yea... Yeap yeap, before i only played Galio cause, his ult was an absolute meme, he was essentially an AP rammus after all, and seeing enemies get killed because they are forced to hit you always draws a few laughs from me. But after the rework Galio was just perfect, was given a literally perfect spot in the lore and his personality is brilliant, just an absolutely loveable guy. Yea more or less, poor Ryze probably needs 2-3 more reworks before he reaches his ideal spot. Hmm yea basically, they made him muuuch creepier, but also just kinda enhanced his gameplay, as you really now do play around striking from suprise for the giant ult, more so than ever before and i do really appreciate champions like that since, while extremely strong in ideal scenarios he is also really weak if you catch him out, basically any champion in the game will beat him in a raw 1v1 so you really need to play around your ult. Yeeea rip Cass, losses "rabadons" so she can buy a 6th item which isnt boots, i can understand why they did it but eh it was a waste imo.

I think i am about done with Rhaast, please do tell if you would change anything, especially history since its fully "custom made". I dont understand the aesthethic either but, we had it for... ever since LoR got released soooo, sure, doesnt make much sense but and while i dont think it looks great, it also isnt bad, its just fine really. Hmmm true yea, i mean he probably works in most decks, the only real problem is that getting him out could be a bit hard since 8 cost, and he also isnt amazing, he is however just solid all around though, probably wont ever carry a game but will also never really be useless.

Went ahead and checked, so 90 points are required to finish chapter 1, annnnd, each TFT win gives 9, and each loss gives 6, definetely slower but, at least its doable. I do have some ideas since they actually both appear already, but i dont want to spoil too much, either way for now the event is seemingly happening a year after the Twin Stars story that got released recently. Had no idea but if so that is kinda unfortunate, especially since Lux is well the original SG so her being the only one to not get it feels especially wrong.

Yea nah absolutely same, even just the pulsefire styled LoR one would be plenty. But yea uhh, i think High Noon might have a chance for it in the future but Odyssey especially, if any other two skinlines have a chance to get an event of their own i think it would be Odyssey and Battle Academia, since at least from what i noticed those two are the most popular aside from SG which is well the most popular.

I see i see, checked and for now Karma looks good, although a bit low, imagined she could even hit 100k+ but at least 70-80k
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Yeah, I like the super weapons idea quite a bit and I really do think each major country needs a gimmick, as right now I think Germany and the UK are really lacking them atm. For the concessions, I'd say there would be an option to either focus east or west. If you tried to peace out with the Soviets you'd have to give up all territory up to at least the Molotov Ribbentrop agreed spheres and likely have to surrender Romania, Finland and Bulgaria to Soviet influence. For a peace with the West, you'd likely have to give up every core territory you occupy of France, the Low Countries and in Scandinavia at the minimum. Also likely have to give up your naval units as well. Harsh, but reasonable offers imo. And yes, more wars need to be able to end in stalemates or white peaces. Not every conflict needs to be a war to the death.

Oh, yeah, the old ult was such a meme, but what we got in its replacement was a worthy change. He's also one of my favorite LoR champs due to just how positiv ehe is to every ally on your team. While I do appreciate champ's having strengths and weaknesses, Ryze just has never felt very satisfying to play imo. He's too boom or bust and kind of linear. I would say if they wanted to fix up Cass that adding in a kind of mini quest system for each of her abilities could help out. Like if you hit a champion 30 times with your q, its poison effect would last a little longer. And only 2-3 quests per ability so you're not so uber focuses on them. Speaking of reworks, did you see the video where they talk about the progress on ASol? I think I liked what I was seeing there.

Rhaast's bio looks good to me and the only ability I might think about adding is low morality manipulation. That being said, you already have corruption, which works fine enough on its own. So no complaints from me! Honestly wish the masks were full face masks to give them more of an air of mystery while also being able to visually tell us how important each character is due to how ornate they get. Yeah, Eldred is definitely a card you add in just in case you think the match is going to go long and then only as a one of. I can see decks like Galio stalwart really benefiting in specific cases, but he's by no means required. Did you see Gwen's gameplay reveal? I'm... not super stoked about it. She looks completely playable, just not very exciting.

Oh, that's very doable. I'll start working on catching up then. I highly doubt Lux gets left out due to her importance. And I mean, Caitlyn got her Pulsefire skin even though she's got the most skins in-game atm, so that can't be a consideration.

I think the only thing that might hold High Noon back in LoR is the fact that Mordekaiser isn't in the game yet. Might be a cool launch event for him (I'd probably make him a Noxus/Shadow Isles champ despite him not really belonging to the latter, but he works thematically with them). Odyssey suffers from a similar problem with Sona not being present, but I'd love to see them expand that universe as well. Love to see what they could do with say Odyssey Illaoi. I know Battle Academia already has skins in game, but they really need to get some updated art. And Ezreal too... Who didn't get a pulsefire skins now that I think about it...

I think I've got Karma in the right spot now, although I wanted your input before I finished her up. Couple powers I was thinking about, but I'm just not sure.
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Hmmm if Germany gets Super Weapons as their gimmick imo UK should get something with Commonwealth as a gimmick, i know they can already create the imperial federation later on but thats only really one focus more so than a gimmick, if anything id just expand on the entire system a lot.

Yea i like him there too granted havent personally played him in LoR cause, i dont like demacia decks much and the entire health=power thingy isnt too much up my alley, in terms of how i want to play LoR i mean. Kiiind of yea, they try making him the DPS hyperscaling mage but then they also give him the portal as an ult which doesnt fit too much with the rest of the kit, and the rest of his kit is just fairly old to say the least, i mean sure its been reworked plenty times but basically all of the abilities are pretty similar to how they were before. I do like the quest idea especially since it could fit with her still discovering her new "shuriman whatever" powers, i would say if that is a thing though i would remove some of the effects from her kit at the start, example her E healing, rather that part could just be added later on at a stronger effect than it is right now to compensate. I did i did, the idea of him being a super strong late game pick is how i always felt he should've been, and from what we saw for now the one ability seems to look good, kinda pretty curious how he gonna end up and when exactly he will be released.

Oh thanks for the suggestion, i will add it at a low level since, i kinda consider Corruption more of a physical thing than a mind affecting one although it is technically both tbf... Either way thanks, gonna try adding it in. Good point i guess yea, and tbf i wish they at least did the second part of what you mentioned, kinda showing us importance through how the masks look cause as is only Eldred has a different looking one by any meaningful ammount. Uhhhhuuh, personally ima just go out and say it, i think Gwen is kinda ass gameplay wise, the entire thing about her giving buffs to her team after she dies makes it really feel like she isnt a focus of a deck, and while sure she is important once she is evolved, damn do i not like that she just constantly drains your nexus hp in essence. I think i can confidently say i wouldnt like playing Gwen in my deck at all, and id also really hate playing against her.

Hmmmm yea no idea, maybe they are just saving Lux for a second batch of LoR SG skins? Although i do think we wont be getting any more after the most recent Wild Rift ones...

True yea, kinda dont see him getting added soon either, partly due to void being focus rn but partly cause idk, just feel like it, maybe its cause almost everyone likes Mordekaiser but he doesnt actually have a lot of fans, he is just someone most people think of as "Yea Morde is cool". Still yea uhh for sure Noxus/Shadow Isles, should be an 8 cost or so too cause, iirc we dont have a high cost champion for Noxus or Shadow Isles anyways and more importantly he would fit it. I do love Odyssey so yes absolutely do hope it does get a continuation. Hmmm true, which is kinda odd yet again, if anything really suprising Ez didnt get one for either of em.

Well feel free to ask about any of them, id love to give you an opinion about any power thats not completely certain right now but honestly im pretty short on time so i will probably do that later. Edit: Got some time so gonna go through the abilities, and after doing that the only ones that i am not sure about would be:
-Reactive Power Level
-kinda Cosmic Awareness
-Space Survivability/Flight (These are possible but we kinda, dont really have an idea if Karma survives in space afterwards or dies or anything really, but then again, at least some worldbreakers have this power, and so does the only other Worldweaver Maokai, sooo id say a very big 50/50 on them)

Edit2: First of all, really suprised almost everyone got accepted already cosidering the new system, started slowly working on them, havent added any stats yet but just images, will probably knock down Pulsefire Riven out first.
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Yes, I think the UK's decisions should have more ripple effects into the commonwealth for sure and be able to affect their politics. I'd also like to see their decisions be able to change the stability of governments like the Raj and sparks revolts and even full devolutions in power there. So, they dropped Swiss Part 2 and I like the idea for the neutral/republican route with building up the Alpine Federation. The fascist route also goes as expected, although I was expecting some way to join with Italy.

Yeah, it's an interesting mechanic to say the least. I always play him with Soraka, which I've found to be highly effective. Maybe what they need for Ryze is for his Ult to be one he chooses? So, like maybe he has an item like the Hexcore or something and once he upgrades it enough, he can modify his ult? Idk, I'm not a balance person. Yes, I would say start her kit off by being fairly basic and with each quest you complete they get better with maybe level 1 quest making it on par or a little worse than it currently is, level 2 making it a little stronger and level 3 (which has a very specific quest) makes it stronger like maybe the Q casting twice or something like that. Yes, that's how I'd always envisioned him as well and the idea of the abilities growing in scale as the match goes on it pretty intriguing. I assume they were showing the Q in the video.

Yeah, it's definitely got an over lap there. Oh, yeah, no, I think Gwen is just not gonna be the focus of any deck she gets put in. She very much feels like a splash champ and not one that dictates your whole play style. And, yeah, I already don't like drain and now a champ getting to do it every time they attack is gonna get super annoying super quickly.

Well, like I really feel like Morde missing from LoR is really really odd due to all the references to him in it. And, yeah, I'd say 8 cost would work well, but I'm not sure what his mechanic would be focused around. Maybe he'd get challenger to represent his ult? But, yes, Odyssey needs to happen in LoR, as I think we need to see what happened with Galaxy Slayer Zed's ascension to power. Oh, Ez got a Battle Academia skin... it just sucks:


So, my explanation for reactive is that essentially her power ascends and then begins to decrease as the cycle continues onwards (I lowered it to low). Cosmic Awareness is just because she's essentially the god of the universe and she's aware of most things going on in her own little cosmos. And yes, as you said we're not really sure what happens, but I would assume she can survive out there while the cosmos is rebooting. It honestly adds almost nothing to her score, so I'll knock off the space flight. She's a tad lower now with those changes.

MoNsTeR and Tigerking got to work, I think. And yeah, let me know how that goes and feel free to use the other Pulsefire champs as a guide if you'd like.
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Whew took me a bit but here i am, annnnd yea thats essentially what i had in mind, our events and focuses/decisions having far bigger effects on the commonwealth as a whole, especially Raj considering they are the one closest to breaking away alongside all of their internal problems. I dont actually have much time to read it now since i really do like reading the thing slowly, will edit in the opinion when i do tho.

For Ryze i kinda feel his passive and ult are what needs changes, rather than letting him pick an ulti, i would add a whole new objective on the game, think of it like a mixture between skarner passive and bard passive, essentially something would spawn on the map (randomly but never in either base, and it would prefer enemy team jungle) and Ryze would need to secure that objective (World rune as an example) however it would take time to collect, lets say 10 or so seconds of him standing near it, ofc if he collects it he gets permanent buffs throughout the game. I think thats something we dont have even as a collection concept as bard chimes cant really be denied by the enemy team, but more importantly it adds a whole new aspect to the game as now there is another objective aside from Dragons and Baron for the teams to fight over. Yea that works basically perfectly for Cass, maybe after all of her quests/upgrades are done her ult could also be changed to stun everyone in range, and ye i know its a medusa meme and all that but honestly its kinda one of the things keeping her from being strong (without being overly opressive through Q-E damage) since most high rank players and even i on my 60 ping can normally react and turn our backs to it in time.

Well Gwen might've been disappointing but, Evelynn got released too and she is... weird? I dont really know what else to say i do like it but at the same time i watched the video 3 times and i still dont FULLY grasp whats going on, another champ that works with Viktor though so thats always a plus in my books.

Challenger is a given for Morde yea, about what he himself would do, maybe he could have a pretty hard evolution to complete but also a very powerful one, essentially what i have in my head is "if more than 50 power worth of allies died, evolve", then when he evolves Mordekaiser could get an effect where he revives the 3 strongest ones on his evolution, and then at every round end he ressurects the next strongest unit. With that not only would it work great to show how he is more or less just preparing for his return by employing strong souls as his minions in the lore, but he would also synergize really well with Noxus and Shadow Isles since both have a lot of high power units, i guess technically could also be played with Leblanc pretty well ironically enough. Yea uhhhh i suppose Ezreal just might be cursed to have really bad LoR art, cause that is pretty bad yea.

Oh damn, yea thats actually really smart i didnt even think about that, Reactive is fine then especially as a low level, same with cosmic awareness and everything now really. Great job alright!

Uhuh from what i noticed it was indeed the two of them, saw them on i think every single one of my profiles that got approved soo yea huge props. And ye i will i will, those will be plenty helpful as guides for Riven, who i will likely handle later tonight, time again and all that but ye
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Something else I would like to see for the UK are Votes of No Confidence, so when you make mistakes or whatever, your leader changes to probably one of your already selected advisors. Oh, yeah, no take your time. It's pretty lengthy and they actually haven't talked about the Communist path yet either.

Oh, yes, I definitely like the collection mechanic and it works well into his lore. Maybe if the allied team denies it they get a small bonus like 25 gold or something. That way if your Ryze isn't great, the enemy team isn't fully rewarded at least. I would say too that maybe the spawn of the location for the first one or two is limited to either the river or jungle closest to him kind of like how Bard's chimes spawn radius increases as the game goes on. Yes, I would say making her ult stun regardless of orientation would be a good reward cause like you said it's kind of a wet blanket of an ult right now. I rarely used it when I played Cass because the rest of her kit works well with or without it.

So, yeah, it looks like we called some of the aspects of Evelynn's kit with the husks and her benefitting from allies dying, but she's definitely weird. Probably going to work best with Vlad, Viktor (like you said) or Thresh although I still think she's not where I would've liked her to be. If it weren't for the SG skins coming with the patch, I think I'd be overall disappointed here.

I would say to have his challenger effect synergize with the evolution that maybe the requirement would count the power of enemies he has killed in combat. Otherwise I really like the mechanic as it incentivizes you to play aggressively, which is something those two factions do exceedingly well. Maybe he could have regenerate or tough as well (but definitely not both)? He is gonna be hyper-expensive, so gotta make him worth it. This set up we've come up with would also make him work well with Eve as well. I love Ezreal's mechanic in LoR, but he is hard to play because of the art direction. Really hope he gets the Fizz/Teemo treatment.

Cool. Went ahead and released her. Gonna try to finish up the rest of the Titans before going to the Pulsefire guys. I think Trundle is done and I'm gonna work on Hec next. One thing I will note, I was going to give Sion Unholy manip instead of regular Holy because he and Malzahar are supposed to be corrupted perversions of the cycle. They're worth the same amount of points, so it's largely cosmetic.

They be doin their jobs alright. Cool, happy they can help make things a little easier.
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Yea id say that could be a pretty good system, especially if there would be quite big consequences if you fail too many times, maybe not only would we lose a lot of stability but perhaps we would start getting restrictions on what actions we can take in the war, maybe even the public calling for us to end the war even if it means abandoning France and other mainland allied nations. So after reading it honestly, i think its actually really good, imo the Alpine Federation part is definetely the one i will try the most since it feels like a really good mix of building up and going to war if neccessary, a bit RNG based due to not knowing if the other nations will pass along their territory but if anything i think that adds to the replayability. The fascist route as you said is pretty well expected, although yea lack of joining italy feels like a bit of a wasted chance, still, i think playing as Henne's path of fascism is actually gonna be really fun because, i dont recall us being able to play as someone's puppet in that way, the closest thing we have are commonwealth members and Manchukuo but neither of them willingly become a puppet and stay one as part of the game, rather the goal is kinda breaking away, which might be a thing here too in the end but not neccessarily. The Democratic paths themselves are fine, the espionage one sounds fun at least for a try or two, doubt il play it a lot but definetely will be a fun playthrough that said 1 time.

Yea id say if Ryze doesnt collect it in, lets say 2 minutes, not only does it disappear but the enemy team should also get the said gold advantage, 25 to100 per member sounds good, id make the gold value start at 25, moving to 100 over game lenght, since getting 100 in early game is a bit much but getting 25 in late game would be completely irrelevant, that way even if the Ryze player is behind or just bad there is an incentive to fight for the objecitve. And yea uhh, i would also make it have a similar spawning effect to one we had in some Nexus Blitz minigames, basically if Ryze's team is ahead in gold, then the runes will spawn closer to enemy base on average, never actually in their base though of course.

I do have to admit, overall i am, kindaaaa, 50/50 right now, i think Gwen is nasty as all hell and one of the worst LoR releases, Kai'sa is good, and Evelynn is... im not sure... Have to actually try out in game or play against to know, some concepts are good but cant tell yet. Soo overall very 50/50 while all the SG stuff is great, but i try to discount that from the rest of the patch tbf.

Oh yea yea for sure, that should also be a requirement since it would also make sense he would take and employ the souls of anyone he kills himself, works great as an addition both gameplay and lore wise so great job on that one! Oh really? Happy to hear that cause thought myself it would be about as good of a gameplay loop as a card could have for Mordekaiser. I think i would give him Tough and Spellshield, because well the biggest threat would be instant removals for him which would be, incredibly unfun considering he is the main point of a deck and the entire buildup would be just getting to him, and i do think Regeneration could make him a bit too oppressive against decks that dont have instant removals, so id just go with tough+spellshield, and true yea he would be a great combo with her. Kinda same yea, he is pretty fun to play but damn his art is among the worst if not the worst in LoR.

Trundle looks great for now! Hecarim looks perfect as is too after checking him out, very nice job on both. Yea that makes complete sense to me, i will make sure to remember to put unholy for Malzahar then, thanks for the heads up ofc. Ive gone and finished up Pulsefire Riven myself, will likely go to the Worldbreakers myself next.

Edit: So after playing around for a bit, i can say i actually really like Evelynn, i dont think she is that strong atm but is really fun, the lore of her cards is also pretty nice too with the husks and all of her other followers being lesser demons. Gwen is absolutely aids to play against tho, still overall id say the expansion is good in my eyes.
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Yes, definitely it would need to be a building negative against you before you're forced into a negotiated peace, which would be a good way to force the UK to actually confront their enemies and not be just turtles until America comes in. Yes, I really like the Alpine Federation path, especially with the chance to have the military coup. Looks like a good challenge if you do the set up to make every nation go their most extreme route. Wonder if there'll be an achievement for restoring democracy to Europe as the Alpine Federation. Yes, I think the puppet route is very interesting and a good choice for a coop multiplayer session if an experienced player plays Germany and the newb plays the Swiss. I do hope they do something to get a French and Italian fascist route due to the size of those populations. And maybe an event if the Swiss are doing crazy stuff that Italy, France and Germany can partition them. Yes, I think the Espionage route could be really fun in multiplayer, but maybe that's just me.

That all seems fair enough and would incentivize the Ryze player to pursue the objective without punishing them harshly for not being able to. And that seems fair enough for the spawn rate. I do wonder what could work for the runes themselves. Maybe in the late game if you've gotten all the upgrades that they become like the potions you can buy late game, giving you a good but temporary boost.

I am just now getting the update installed, although I am stoked to play the update. I looked through all the husks and I wish they were more than just a +0/+1 and keyword dispensers.

Okay, cool, I thought it sounded perfectly Morde and I'm happy you like it too. I like spellshield and tough on him, as it would make him tough to deal with, but not impossible. Maybe another way to limit him from being oppressive is that his summoned allies get obliterated when they die to represent their souls being destroyed. And yeah, regen would probably be too tough to deal with unless he had low power, which would be silly for someone like him.

Cool, thanks for checking them out! TZ Riven looks great! The only thing I might add is Paradox Manipulation because they can cause them in timelines when they enter them. It's not worth many points, so it's fine either way.

I'm getting in now to check things out. I will give my thoughts soon (tm).

*edit* Hoi4 dropped a video about the reworked stuff:
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Yes yes exactly, the Alpine Federation it gives a completely new unique way to play the game with the only similar thing kinda being the chinese warlord border conficts but at the same time also not really. And yea will definetely have to try setting up so Italy Germany and France go fascist (Or Monarchist for France). Hmmmmmm, i dont know about turning entire EU democratic but i can definetely see an achievement for creating the European Union, since right now thats an extremely rare formable nation with not that much flavor to it but an achievement would be nice and it would fit great with the alpine gameplay. Yea Espionage is extremely fun in MP, unless i am on the receiving friend of it, a guy in our "Hoi4 enjoyer" friend group always goes for the espionage shenanigans, completely ruined me with a civil war once when i was playing Anarchist Spain, a very memorable moment. But yea no i think Switzerland overall is extremely good which is, suprising, at least that i like them this much that is.

Hmmmmm yea yea, the potion idea could work really well, each time we pick a rune up the buff lasting longer and being stronger but once we use it we need to collect it again next time to use it, sorta like Corki passive but different.

I do actually really agree about that, even if the husks could also just block whenever Evelynn is evolved and alive on the board that would be plenty. Overall i think she has great execution on her followers but just, lacks that 1 part, still i do quite like her overall not the best release but a very good one. (Although that could just be my bias talking cause i like Evelynn and more or less anything to do with Demons in league)

Hmmm yea that could actually stop him from using some cheezy strats with other epheramal units, like idk having a Viego spam the ephemeral mysts to get to the 50 power fast, and then just using Mordekaiser as a lategame nuke rather than building a deck around him. So if anything i think obliterate would need to be added or else he might have a few too many cheezy decks. And yea no for an 8 cost i would give him either 6/8 or 7/8, anything lower than that would be a bit too underwhelming imo especially since he wouldnt do too much before evolving.

Thanks for the info, did indeed add it and thankfully didnt push her points almost at all, cause i do think Caitlyn needs to be the highest out of any "regular" pulsefire champions aside from Jhin who is likely on same level, so even if its a small difference i still like it being there to illustrate that.

Sure thing take your time ofc. On other news the entire Syndra and Zoe relationship has been explained in chapter 2 act 1, including what they want to do with Fiddle/Morgana, before revealing anything i would first like to ask if you are fine with that? Cause dont want to spoil the story for you if you want to find out yourself.

Okay sooo, peace conferneces, THANK GOD, i think they were one of parts of the game that sucked quite a lot, i have a feel the new system might be buggy too at start but at least it seems to be a lot more intriguing and in-depth. Air changes stuff honestly, i dont know if i would even call those reworks but, rather just quality of life stuff if anything. Navy is nice tho cause more options and all that
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Honestly, that could be a really fun challenge to make all of Europe go super extremist while Switzerland tries to hold the gates. And I more meant Switzerland liberating the rest of Europe and not necessarily form the EU. I've only ever played around with Espionage, but it's definitely a ton of fun. Oh! They dropped the next Ethiopia dev diary. I actually really like the collaborationist/resistance path. I'd kind of like to see that happen with the Czechs and French as well, even if it's just a tree for the Vichy regime. Also looks like the Communist path is exactly as we predicted, which I am not going to complain about. Also going to move the overhaul stuff up here. Yes, I am so happy for the Peace Conference changes. The current stuff kind of sucks if you're trying to play a junior partner in an alliance. And, yeah, I will not complain a QoL changes on the air side. I think based on the video we're actually going to be getting air commanders, which will be fantastic. Can't wait for Goering to personally lead the Luftwaffe.

Especially if they're temporary buffs, it really pushes Ryze to go for those relics with all their might. Maybe they get an enhanced buff if they get a second rune before the first expires. And Corki's an apt comparison, although I've always found that passive kind've lame.

Yeah, making them able to block would also tie into Eve's lore pretty well. And it's not like they'd be super effective in that role. So, I've mostly been playing in Path of Champions because of all of the updates and the Kai'Sa path is absolutely ridiculous. The fight with Kai'Sa herself is absolutely ridiculous because every turn every unit she has (even in her deck) gets a new keyword and +1/+1... Once they get lifesteal it's pretty much over.

Yeah, that'd definitely help keep that kind of degenerate combo from becoming too ridiculous and I would hope incentivize you to build around Morde instead of just using him as a game closer. I would say 6/8 for level 1 and 7/9 for evolved would be perfectly fair.

Yeah, Cait's definitely the top dog, although the rest are very close, as our stats have represented well. Yes, Jhin is def close to Cait, as even just the cinematics you get from their fight in Timeline 16 really illustrates the sheer power they're throwing around. I do think the PF version of Panth is going to be weaker than the normal Panth because he doesn't appear to have celestial powers from my reading of his limited lore. I do also think Shen is tier 4, as in his and PF Akshan's lore it's confirmed he can destroy the Runeterras he invades. He's still def not as strong as Thresh. What do you think of the rest of the Worldbreakers btw?

Oh, no, spoil away. I'm not going to get to that until this weekend and I've never been one to hate spoilers.
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Oh i see i see, yea just a small achievement for them where no nation in Europe can be anything aside from Democratic, could work. Gonna read the Dev Diary tommorow cause, its really really late over here, gonna go sleep as soon as i finish the reply soooo more on Ethiopia tommorow. I think what also sucks is that AI will sometimes take 1 province to absolutely border gore everything up in singleplayer, most infamous one for me personally would be Italy taking parts of UK like Scotland or Hull. Hmmmmm, wonder how that could work, i mean i guess just like regular commander for land/navy. I do wonder about that though cause, they didnt go too far into Air Groups, maybe it could just be a QoL sorta change? Thinking that because of the way they explained it, even not telling us what the limit on how big an air group could be. Still i do actually hope we get air commanders.

Rather than getting an enhanced buff what i had in mind is that, there are lets say 5 levels of said relics, the first one being level 1, and the 5th one and all subsequent ones being level 5 (assuming we collected all the previous ones, cause if the enemy team stops Ryze a level 1 relic should still be a level 1 relic when it respawns) This way imo it would differentiate it more from Corki and it also would play more into his late game style.

Oh you already managed to get Kai'sa huh? (Im only getting Illaoi shards i have 55 now, and i do not want to play her) Uhhhhhh, that sounds absolutely ridiculous actually, like damn that might be one of the strongest effects in path of champions (For champ passives)

Panth should be weaker yea, if anything id say he is also close but slightly below Caitlyn's level, ironically enough his Main Canon version is likely his strongest one (not counting Ruined). Yea tier 4 makes sense, below Thresh for sure but considering he can destroy Runeterras he should at least be considerably stronger than any other Pulsefire champions as of now. Worldbreakers all look great, basically nothing i would change on them, oh and i myself managed to finish Elise for now.

Sooo basically it did reveal a lot of stuff even in just act 1. Zoe and Syndra are actually working together and the two of them are the first and original Star Guardians while Fiddle is seemingly just as old but what he is himself hasnt been revealed yet. Just as importantly he is the one who captured/corrupted/killed (not really revealed) the rest of their team, with their goal now being seemingly to take him out 'again'.
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Yeah, just an achievement like that. It's a pretty interesting read, cause like if you go down one of the communist paths you get access to some Japanese Advisors. I hope the claim system will really help prevent silly scenarios like that from happening. I will admit when I do single player I rarely let majors into my alliance to prevent things like that from happening cause I one time got the UK annexing the Siberian provinces in the USSR. I would assume the air commanders will function much like field marshals do, providing buffs and maybe access to certain mission types. Honestly if it makes it to where you can just shift an entire air group to a front, that'd be super nice. Also excited for the interception stuff now, which I will assume you'll be able to tailor certain aircraft for. Now I'm wondering if altitude will be a consideration as well, because that was one of the ways bomber groups protected themselves.

Oh, that sounds like a pretty good system to me. I really do wish they had more champs that had quests and map related objectives as part of their gameplay. This may sound odd, but I wish for Corki's payload that you got to pick which of his 3 basic abilities got a buff because the W isn't always super useful.

Oh, no, I have not. I meant I played the campaign mission with her as the final boss. I've tried a few times with Annie, Yas and Jinx and got curb stomped every time. So, I will say I don't like Illaoi in normal play, but I think she's pretty fun in Path especially once you get her passive. Then every time you attack you get to spawn 1, which I almost legit think she needs something like that for the normal mode.

Yeah, there's nothing to suggest he's anything more than just a notable Remembrancer. I'm thinking PW Shen will probably fall into the low to mid 20k's as he's definitely capable of destroying planets, but he's not as strong as one of the Titans. Elise looks good, only thing I might add is venomous bite.

Huh, interesting. So Nemesis Fiddle is gonna be pretty stronk then if he did all of that, especially considering what all Zoe could do. Dang. I do like a narrative when two villain groups are pitted against each other too. Look forward to hearing more!
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Yea i saw that, personally i prefer the Soviet path purely because it seems more military focused. HOWEVER, one big problem with said Soviet path could be Italy refusing the ceasefire demands, because a war between Italy and USSR likely would not end till basically the end of ww2 which sucks imo (Considering neither really has the ability to properly invade the other). A similar 'complain' could be said about playing as a loyal Italian puppet cause, getting buffs is cool and nice but for the entire point of the campaign to be just getting Eritrea and potentially Somalia? I mean its not bad but i just feel it might be extraordinarily boring considering unlike with the Switzerland puppet path, we wont be seeing much important action in Africa, especially since our industry will already be hurt from losing half of our country to Italy. Sooooo, i do really like the communist paths AND the Fascist Path (indenpendace), I think the puppet one couuuuld be the worst one for Ethiopia by a significant margin. I do imagine thats probably how they will handle it yea, a smaller skill-tree but still a skill-tree sorta thing where we can invest into traits same way as we can for the land generals/Field Marshals. Yea yea that should be a thing, if attitude will ever be added as a factor then this DLC is probably the best time for it.

Hmmmm, that does sound interesting for Corki yea, especially since he is quite well, old by now to say the least, W would stay the same i suppose, Q could imo both deal more damage BUT, perhaps it would also linger on the ground for a bit after being used along with you getting 3 charges of it before, that way it can serve as more of a peeling tool while W is the engage one? E though im, not really sure, i mean stronger effects for the damage and the resistance shred but it should also have something besides that which is the part where i seem to be struggling.

Ah i see i see, havent reached her yet, still stuck on the 2.5 star Viktor cause, i havent gotten any Runeterra champions unlocked yet, does sound like one of the hardest ones for sure by now though. Still i think thats part of the fun, the adventures should be pretty challenging with us having to adapt items/champions and decisions in said adventures themselves to get the advantage. I think she would be fun in Path too but... ugh i just cant bring myself to play her, too opposite to the usual style i like playing as.

Sounds like a good point to leave him at yea, agreed alright. Oh... yea il add that for sure right now, thanks a lot for noticing, no idea how i managed to miss it. Edit 2: I also ended up editing regular Elise a lot since, damn a lot of stuff was either missing or kinda wrong, and her Bio was also very lacking, so please do tell me if there is anything you'd change or just arent sure about

Pretty pretty strong yea cause, it is kinda implied they might've beaten him in the past, but they do also confirm themselves that he has gotten too strong over time for even the two of them together to defeat him, hence they are kinda trying to recruit more SG in their "little quest". And yea same, i think overall the story is really interesting for now, wonder how the two of them will react if/when they find out Fiddle and Morgana are working together since, they dont seem to care about Morgana in specific but we also dont know whether they are aware of Fiddle and Morgana being a team. All that combined with Kai'sa and the new SG's trying their best to replace Lux's team (as they seemingly dissapeared after fight with Zoe) does leave a lot of room for the story to grow. Edit: Unlocked another act, didnt really have that much important stuff but it does reveal the original team was Zoe, Syndra, Akshan, Gwen and "Harp" (Who i would've assumed is Sona if we knew she isnt). The only other important thing is that we also found out Zoe has been "killing and ressurecting" guardians to save them from burning out since it technically makes the contract with the First Star null, dont really like that change tbf, kinda puts her in a weird limbo here she is still completely insane and evil but also tries "justifying" her actions which eh, at least in my eyes it kinda does just lessens her as a villain. (If they even keep her as one that is)
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Yes, I struggle to see how that kind of conflict could even go forward unless there's some plans to have Italy and the SU's plans for the Balkans also come into conflict. Could actually lead to an alt WW2 with perhaps the Germans and Hungarians siding with the SU for short term territorial gains while the Western Powers side with Italy to try to stop the spread of Communism. That's how I would at least frame it and it could be cool to see a WW2 that really starts with fighting in the Balkans. Yeah, it doesn't look super satisfying to me outside of being a way for the Ethiopian player to keep playing should they prove unable to kick Italy out the first time around. I also saw a lot of comments of people asking for Italian East Africa to get the tree if Italy releases it and I think that's a quite good idea as they were planning on adding the region to their Empire along the same lines as Manchukuo was for Japan. Yeah, they have a very solid system for the Field Marshalls and Admirals right now, so there's little reason to think that won't be how they go about it. I think the simplest way to add altitude is to just have the air frames themselves have limits and to divide it into maybe 5 levels of altitudes with things like pressurization of flight suits with life support allying the frame to go higher. I think it'd add a nice dimension to the game and would help bombers both be easier to protect and give heavy fighters more of a reason to be built. Actually hope they make the Heavy Fighter frames something you can turn into a true jack of all trades unit that would be good for countries that want a small and well rounded air force.

That's exactly what I was thinking for the Q and maybe if it didn't linger that maybe it could blind the enemies briefly. The e is definitely a bit harder to figure out.. Maybe the cone is extended and the overall DPS is improved? It'd be a better all purpose choice for expected team fights, but it might still be a little unsatisfying.

Oh, yeah that is a bit of a sticking point. I have to say I really like Bard in path and not so much Jhin. Bard's passive is also really cool, making it to where if you play a unit with increased stats, they spawn with a random keyword. I mean, I don't mind the challenge it's just that the rest of her campaign is really easy and she's like a brick wall. Gonna try leveling my peeps up some more and see if that helps a little. Oh, yeah, I understand that feeling. I normally don't like the protect the focus on 1/2 units game play, but I feel like she was almost designed to be played in the Path, which is weird.

No problem, that's why we check each other's work! Oh, I did want to say I think WB Malph is going to end up lower than Nasus purely because he's just got fewer abilities overall despite being "the strongest Titan" which could also just mean raw physical power.

I will be looking forward to the inevitable clash then! My prediction will be maybe that they engage Fiddle as a team and begin to overpower him and that's when Morg intervenes and turns the tides? Might be a little cliche, but that's a good way to raise the stakes for a round 2. Oh, I don't like Lux and the original gang disappearing! (also want to say it's BS that Lux didn't get a LoR skin) Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I don't mind giving a motive to why villainous characters act, but I'm just gonna leave this gif as my reaction to that "revelation."
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Yea i mean indirect conflict i can see for sure, but an all out confict would, likely just be all 3 of us waiting until ww2 itself starts which, sounds lame as hell. Unless of course what you are mentioning does end up being the case, it would be chaotic as all hell but, very different ww2 to say the least. Oh Italian East Africa wont have a tree? Thats kinda, really really damn suprisingly and even disappointing, at the very least they should have a focus tree similar to Vichy France. Okay yea that is actually a really good point because there is legitimately no reason to build Heavy Fighters over regular Fighters rn. And hmmm by jack of all trades something thats between a fighter and a CAS id presume? Well as long as its less effective than both at their specific jobs but still pretty good itself, almost like a fused plane that does each job 70% as good as the originals sorta thing.

Personally id rather have it slow than blind cause an AOE blind sounds really nasty, especially with an AOE bigger than Graves W, ofc if the blind was very brief like 0.75 seconds for example, then i do think it could work. Yea i mean that, obviously should be a part of it but at the same time the other 2 abilities would have a special effect of their own, perhaps Corki could get a temporary speedup when he activates it? With him being able to toggle it on and off, it sorta working like a mana-bar where he can manage lets say... 6 seconds worth of it? Oh and ofc he couldnt just spam click E to activate and deactive it, rather at best the ability would need to be active for at least as second before being turned off.

Havent played Bard but saw Jhin get used in Path and... yea i do agree, i really really hope i get either Bard or Evelynn as my 'Runeterran' Paths champion, got 0 shards on both but, collecting the wild fragments whenever i can. Mhm i mean havent gotten there but sure does sound harder, beating the 2.5 stars is essentially almost always a win with Yasuo or Jinx for me as long as my RNG isnt terrible but, just cant progress yet. Personally i think out of all Path champions Taliyah is my least liked gameplay wise cause... i really, REALLY hate using landmarks.

A bit off topic with the rest but could you check regular Elise? After editing the Worldbreaker one i kinda realized she had a lot of missing or even wrong stuff with a pretty bad bio too so, ended up editing her, please do tell if there is anything you would remove or arent sure on. Yea i suppose, because well tbf, its really hard for Malphite to almost ever get that high on points due to being well mostly focused on physical stats. As far as Nasus goes, i think he shoooould be somewhere between 80-100k, around the same level as others tier 5's (Aside from poor Malph)

A bit cliche yes but honestly i wouldnt mind it at all, although most members (especially Akali) dont really want to follow Kai'sa's lead and join up with Zoe and Syndra. Yea i dont really like it either? Hasnt been explained at all rather they just kinda "dissappeared" with us having little to no idea of what actually happened to them. Lol, but yeeap that does about sum up my reaction too.
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Maybe if there's a system in place to make at least the Balkan countries pick sides. I can see Yugoslavia being interested in joining on the Soviet side to gain istria and the like from Italy while I can see Romania wanting to gain Moldova with the assistance of Italy. Just can't have a dumb fizzle conflict. Yeah, they confirmed a released East Africa would have a generic tree and the forums just about had a revolt, essentially saying you have a perfect tree for it right there! Yes, I was thinking essentially a heavy fighter that carried a few 250 lb bombs and was armed with cannons and machine guns. Not nearly as good as either in the role, but something you could probably reliably produce where the skies aren't teaming with aircraft.

Slow is fine, and I was thinking a very shor blind of like 3/4 or 1/2 a second. Hmmm, I wonder if that might be a little over complicated. Perhaps the E just stays on but begins rapidly draining your mana after a while?

Yeah, I gave Jhin a couple tries, but it's just too hard to make him function properly as he just doesn't synergize with other champs super well. I don't have any of the new champs yet and I completely forgot Taliyah was even a thing. Have not unlocked her as I don't find the landmark play style engrossing in the slightest. Oh, Garen's personal missions are great. Just did the second one where he's running through Zaun crying because Kat broke up with him and he legit thinks Jinx is interested in him for a moment. Lol.

I just looked at her and she looks good to me. Had to think for a second about the explosion manip and then I was like... Oh, yeah, she do do that. Yeah, an unintended side effect of the system. Yeah, I would say Nasus'll be roughly comparable to Mao for sure. Side note, they really need to put WB Elise into LoL proper as I love the spiderlings.

I mean, I can understand that. They've just gotten this power and now their leader of sorts is all like, hey, let's go join up with the ladies that just tried to kill us. Hmmm, I wonder what the explanation is going to be, as I know they want to give the spot light to the new crew, but the ogs are too important to just disappear.
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Hmmmm, yea that would open a, very special sorta border between them, BUT i imagine that would be only the last case scenario. If anything i really hope that most often it doesnt come to any sort of open war between Italy and SU, even with the entire Balkan Idea it would be too chaotic if we are stuck playing in Ethiopia. Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, well thats pretty ass, maybe they add at least a very minimalistic tree for them due to the clear discontent from the community, Paradox is pretty good when it comes to adjusting based on feedback. (They just suck at DLC prices) Hmmmmm, yea Heavy Fighters would also maybe become pretty effective as volunteer air wings, since most of the minor nations likely wouldnt thave that big of an air force, so having planes that can both provide ground support and air superiority even at reduced rates would be pretty effective.

Eh maybe, especially since Corki isnt supposed to be a really hard champion. The last suggestion i would give for his E (alongside the duration-mana thing and the bigger cone) would be that rather than increasing E's base damage a lot, it would now do some %max health damage. I like that more purely because it makes E more of a anti-tank/juggernaut ability, giving it a special purpose same way how Q and W would have theirs, which in turn makes Corki have to actively think about which of the three would be the best option to take.

Out of "new" champs i only have Annie but, while i do find her kinda fun (middle of pack sorta thing), i dont think she is that good in Path, she doesnt really get her landmark and she really suffers hard against any high stat units which is mostly what the high levels are consisting off. Oh yes yes! I think Garen's personal missions are the best out of any ive played yet. Seeing Garen travel to Noxus while making bad excuses whenever he gets spotted was hilarious, same goes for the Jinx mission ofc. Cant wait to level him up again just to see his last one, plus he is my favourite in Path gameplay wise alongside Yasuo (as of now)

Thanks for checking! She ended up quite high and i was even thinking of possibly putting her as a tier 2 due to being well empowered by a god and even fighting some spirits but, i think her level would end up a bit too high so didnt go with it. Mhmmm the spiders are, very devoted to say the least, but that aside damn the universe page for her is terrible, half of her lore isnt even present there including imo her best story, unfortunately she also isnt the only one who suffers from this problem as ive noticed it on, quuuite a number of champions to say the least. Yeap basically had more or less the same expectations, roughly around Maokai level. But yea they really should, the spiderlings are quite great in LoR, granted... i wouldnt mind if all LoR exclusive skins got added because, aside from the "bootleg debonair" skinline we got ages ago, i think all of the LoR exclusive ones are pretty damn good, WB Elise is definetely among the best tho but that could just be my bias for skinline as a whole.

Mhm, i imagine more will be added onto that in act 3 of this chapter but ive yet to unlock it, didnt get to play much league today/yesterday, will make sure to mention anything important when i do get to it tho. Hmmmmmmm well, this event is happening a year after the Twin Star story but, really basically nothing is known about them, kinda even slightly implied they might be dead since Lux has a statue built as a memory of them stopping Zoe but, i have no idea. If i had to guess, maybe it has something to do with Morgana/Fiddle but... thats just a completely random assumption.
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Honestly the whole thing reminds me of a Cold War stand off, but it should almost never come to an actual conflict. If anything I feel like this is when hopefully the other great powers would try negotiations much like with Munich. Yeah, I highly doubt they won't cave here as it just makes too much sense to give EA the surrender tree. Yeah, they are kinda over priced and I wish they would do more to add value. Like, I wish they had made the 3d models for the vehicles modular to an extent so that it's a little more apparent what our designs are. Yes, something that's both good for large theaters you can be sent to secondary fronts where you have limited air base space or a good export vehicle, something like the P38.

Oh, yes, I like the % max hp. It could kind of signify he's loading some super powerful rounds while not making it an obvious pick for general purposes. Honestly like this system as it would make it to where Corki has more ability to adapt to what his team needs.

I actually like Annie quite a bit in Path, but she can get brick walled pretty hard. Honestly, all of the personal missions have been great imo. Really like Lux's second one where she goes up against Ez and he's the first person she's met that's not interested in her powers and more so her (although he is still a bit conceited about it). Illaoi's second one sees her going up against Viego, which I think is meant to explain why she wasn't in Bilgewater during the Runiation, as she's helping to drive Viego's influence out of Demacia. And yeah, Yas is super satisfying to play in Path as is Jinx. I really enjoy the Bard too, but I am a Bard fanboy.

Mid 300s seems a good level for her and puts her comparable to characters like Yorick. I honestly gave up on getting my info from the Universe pages as they are terrible, especially for older champs. I rely on the lol wiki, as they have all the stories and even comics linked to each character and is just generally super useful. Cool, happy we're on the same page there. Been working a bit on FB Veigar and I think he's going to end up in the same ballpark. Oh, yes, the Gilded skins... Cait's is okay? But, yeah, WB Elise needs to go in the main game as it's just absolutely amazing. I really do like the skin line too and I hope they return with the ASol and Brand skins we came up with. Hope they also give us a Anatu Ashe as a champion for ASol to represent him in that final conflict.

Still, I'd think that attempted murder isn't so easily forgive. So, my theory on their disappearance might be they've simply gone into deep space? Their art in LoR depicts them in ships and off fighting Void beasts in space. But, I am super interested in seeing what all ends up happening.

Edit: I think PF Shen, TF, Pantheon and Praetorian Graves are finished. What do you think?
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Mb for late reply, wifi kinda died yesterday for a while. Could be interesting if we see the new peace conference thing be used there, maybe if things truly do escalate into something more instead of a all out war we could have a peace conference where all willing major powers either side with Italy or Soviets/Ethiopia for support, each major giving more "points" to one of the sides to negotiate a better treaty. However i really doubt that to be a possibility, seems a bit too important of a thing to leave out of a dev diary, the only reason why i could see them leaving it out is to not spoil the reveal that peace conferences are getting a rework but eh.

The only thing i might also add is a, Gangplank-like system where he can buy special upgrades to his passive in the shop, examples being his passive having a shorter cooldown alltogether or just being general amps for his abilities (extra charge on Q, etc etc). But not entirely neccessary of course

Oh yea no that one is great too, and of course he is, the prodigal explorer must always be a bit flamboyant! Granted their dynamic is really nice and its cool to see Riot actually work more on it. Hmmm i see i see, cause yea the sentinels did go to Bilgewater and its weird she wasnt even mentioned there, let alone wanted to work with them, havent played any Illaoi yet eventho now i am sitting on 60 fragments (they really like giving me Illaoi fragments). If i do get Bard il be sure to inform you of my thoughts but honestly i imagine i will like him quite a bit, like using Bard regularly a lot and in general just like buff-style decks.

Aight thanks a lot for checking! And yea uh i try using the universe page since, when it works properly it does look more appealing than the wiki but thats... becoming more and more of a rare occurance with time. At this point if it wasnt for the wiki i think it would legitimately be impossible to read a lot of the lore properly. Cool cool, i will reply on FB Veigar in the bottom part as i see you've edited the thing in. Yeeea sure, Cait's is "okay", but thats about as much praise as its getting from me.

You might think that but well the rest of the guardians seemingly dont, cause in the final act of chapter 2 everyone does end up teaming up to fight Fiddle, honestly the jump is kinda jarring as we went from Kai'sa having a dispute with Akali about it to in act 2, to Zoe and Syndra facing Fiddle at start of act 3 only for every new SG's to arrive and help them fight and beat Fiddle, which is also a "unexpected twist", since not only was he defeated but so was the SG Familiar he had captured released (it was Harp's familiar and she is a completely original character too so nobody we know yet, she also dead now after being "freed" sooo thats about the extent of her importance i guess) So with that in mind im not even sure if he will be coming back? If he doesnt then, thats kinda lame, but at the same time due to how it was framed it would also be weird if he did come back. Hmmmm the deep space theory could be possible, they could also be where Nilah was since she was reffered to as an "outer guardian" in this last act. Oh and after defeating Fiddle, Zoe and Syndra both went on their own separate ways with Zoe once again being a villain and Syndra just leaving somewhere, Nilah was mentioned because she will be the one coming to train the new SG team. Aside from that nothing that important overall i guess, they did leave hints about Prestige Syndra being maybe canon? Since Zoe made a "big deal" about her taking off the eyepatch in the fight. Oh well either way uh act 3 was a bit of a letdown comparatively to rest but its still nice, just felt a bit rushed as an act. I imagine now that Fiddle got his part Morgana will get more importance in the coming chapters.

Okay so one by one, i think for Graves i would only add some level of endurance and natural armor because, as a super advanced murder bot he likely doesnt tire out much at all comparatively to humans and most at least and natural armor since he is well made of metal, i would also maybe add low level smoke manipulation purely cause he has smoke bombs but, entirely optional and only low level for it. PF Shen, Twisted Fate and Pantheon look great. For FB Veigar i would add Inorganic physiology cause he is made out of pixels or data i guess? Same thing either way. I would also add separation because all of his limbs are fully disconnected from him and he can also remotely control them, his right hand even to fly on it which could be pseudo-flight itself but, he doesnt really use it much only really an emote in his league skin (still could be added as low level). Uhh the only other thing i would maybe add is low-level transformation as he can turn himself into a more pixelated cutout in one of his emotes. All around i think they look great! Tried mentioning absolutely anything i could think of so its easier to pick whats makes sense and what doesnt.

Seemingly i let the 2 remaning worldbreakers and SG Syndra wait a bit too long as edits. Oh well i will get to them later today or tommorow, might leave SG Syndra a bit blank for now though as im not too sure where she should sit, i do think she should be among the strongest 4 yet (Fiddle, Morgana, Zoe and her) but i do also think she is the weakest of the 4, close but just behind Zoe, at least as far as the normal version is concerned.

Edit: Think im done with WB Malzahar
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You're fine, no need to worry about it. Yeah, no, I'm not sure how exactly it could even work as a peace conference with either the old or current system. Maybe there could be some kind of event chain that happens should the war be close enough to equilibrium that the other colonial powers have a chance to interfere and try to draw up something from there. Even if it was just options like Status Quo Antebellum, current borders or something else that could be interesting. I'm honestly also super interested to see what other countries give Haile Selasie will give.

That's not a bad idea, as it would be a good way to show Corki as a tinkerer for his own aircraft.

I will never understand why they decided to uncouple them. They make a good pair in both lore and gameplay for both games, so it really feels like a natural fit to me, even if Zoe would hate it. Yeah, Illaoi being in Demacia to aid them is definitely a bit of a retcon, but at least it makes her absence during the main event less nonsensical. I hadn't looked at my levels in a while and realized Illaoi's my highest level character in paths, lol. Oh yes, please do. Once you get his 1 star and the upgrade to Byrd his game plan roles out pretty well. I've also found he just works very well with a lot of the support champs you can pick.

Okay, then it's not just me that gets the random error messages whenever I log on there. But, yeah, the people that run the wiki are great at being absolutely on top of things, rarely ever have to double check them. I will never understand why they didn't just import the crime city skins into LoR. Same vibe to Gilded.

I mean, I guess you sometimes have to deal with the bigger threat, but that does feel super rushed to me. Kind of disappointed to hear Fiddles lost, even though it's quite clear it took a lot of effort to take him down. Has SG Sona been involved at all? Just thinking maybe Harp's familiar picks Sona as her new bonded companion, although I'm probably wrong there. I hope that's not the end of the Fiddles, though. Maybe what they fought was "just" one of his puppets or something and he operates more like a collective than an individual being. Just a theory there. Huh, I guess they really don't get the threat Nemesis Morgana poses then if they just break up. I mean, if Syndra's no longer really a SG, it'd make sense for her to adopt a new persona of sorts. Speaking of Nilah, do you want me to get her requested or would you prefer to tackle her? Also any of the other SG skins you want?

Added both of those suggestions and can't believe I forgot the smoke manipulation. It sits at 1.1k which is about right. Each Praetorian is meant to be a threat in and of itself, after all. Releasing those three. Added those to Veigar, but I still don't think he's quite where he needs to be yet. I'm considering whether or not to give him magic as what he's doing in the context of his game is magic, but not in the context of the rest of Arcadia. I also gave him low projection because during the Arcade event in LoR, him talking to you was meant to be through a projection of himself as it lacked any real combat ability. Oh, I was trying to think of naming conventions for the non-Boss Arcade characters, as there's the gamers that got transported into the game (Ahri, Ezreal, MF, Riven and Sona) and then the actual denizens of Arcadia (Anivia, Cait, Corki, Gnar, Hec and Kai'Sa). Not sure which Quinn falls under, but I would assume the former.

Oh, that's happened to me before. Yeah, feel free to wait on her until the event concludes so we can get a better bearing on where everyone ranks in the end, although based on the info you've given me I think your assumption is correct. Checked out Malz and he looks great to me!
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Essentially yea something like that would do the job great enough on its own. Know if any more Dev Diaries are gonna be dropped before the DLC itself is released?

Oh yea no absolutely they are amongst the best pairs in league, plus Nocturne revealing Zoe's biggest nightmare is Ezreal and Lux living happily together is one of the funniest lines in LoR. Just for that joke alone it deserves to be a thing. Oh damn huh, for me its Garen cause, i just like constantly amping units through striking really. Hmm i see i see, well 2 more days later still no shards for Bard, only 6 wild fragments away from getting him or Eve tho, hopefully get some shards for one or other before then tho.

Havent had any problems with the wiki basically ever myself either so yea, unironically the best site to look for info/lore when it comes to league. Hmmm i will just assume they wanted to test how the community would react to LoR having skins unique to themselves? Dont know, only reason i can see for Gilded being LoR exclusive

Yea basically took the entire new team + Zoe/Syndra teaming up, and yea SG Sona has been there, bullying her familiar whenever he mistranslates something. She was in the fight too but uhhh as far as Harp's familiar goes, the familiar seemingly disappeared too so i dont think thats possible, still that is an interesting idea tbf. It was the real Fiddle but tbf i doubt he is completely gone, after all eventhough he did "disappear" after having the familiar ripped out of him, he did also exist before he captured Harp, so he will likely come back a bit later, maybe a bit weaker but thats about it i imagine, worst case scenario maybe Morgana can just bring him back, she did seem like the leader of the two at least from what we know right now. She is technically a SG just, left somewhere no idea, could be brought back in later chapters cause of Prestige version but doubt it since her and Zoe got really a lot of focus in chapters 1-2, in 2 even more than the new SG's so i imagine they will likely be on the back burner for chapters 3-4 (and epilogue). Oh, yea nah you can take Nilah i still dont really like her, i dont dislike her anymore but i am, very indifferent. As far as the SG skins go uhhh, i do love both of the Star Nemesis skins so i would like to do one of the two, and out of the SG's Kai'sa and Ekko have grown on me a bit so if possible id like to do those too. Beyond that if there are any you dislike and dont feel like doing then feel free to mention them.

Yea yea around 1.1k or so fits pretty good for the praetorians id say. Hmmmm, maybe just low level magic? Since technically he does use magic based attacks, its just that he does it through manipulating data, so i think its fine, and yea i do think he should be a bit higher, 55-60k or so sounds about right. Had no idea but yea projection makes sense for that. Thats a good idea cause well, i do like the creative names over just slapping "Arcade" onto everything, dont really have much ideas how id call them myself but that could be cause its very late, if i get some ideas will be sure to mention them.

Ah great to hear we are on the same page, i will probably at least wait until im done with worldbreaker Nasus and some other profiles for other series i need to edit, after that gonna see. Thanks thanks, guess that just leaves one then.

Also also, it has been confirmed by Riot Reave that Udyr Rework SHOULD be dropping next month, so while really really late, thankfully finally coming along.
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So, they haven't set an exact release date, but there's going to be at least 2 more. We still need at least one dev diary on the aircraft designer and they usually do at least one on the new achievements and such. I'd expect a new diary on Wednesday, though because that's "World War Wednesday."

Honestly, LoR made me love Zoe even though I hate her guts in LoL. Just all of her interactions are great, especially when she shows up as a mid-boss just to essentially harass the player because she's bored. Also hearing ASol scream in annoyance/terror when she's played is pure gold. And her being friends with Lulu... There's so much to love. But, yeah, Illaoi in Paths just really clicked for me even though I still think her deck in the normal game is so awful and near unplayable. I think I only have one star Garen, so haven't played him too much. I still don't have Eve yet or enough Wild shards to unlock her. I've spent most of mine getting my mains to 3 stars to fight the Kai'Sa boss.

I've just been impressed the wiki has all of the comics on it free to read. Never knew Poppy got a one shot, which really helped illustrate just how strong she is. That makes enough sense and the Gilded skins are a safe enough bet in concept, although I do hope they use that platform to explore more interesting alternate universes of their own creation in the future. Like, I loved the new ones they added for Worldbreakers and Arcade, so I hope they can get creative and break away from the confines of LoL's movesets.

Oh, that's not very nice of Sona and very out of character for how she's usually represented. Oh well, I'm apparently striking out on all of my theories lately, but still fun to try to predict where the story is going to go. A diminished state after that defeat would make sense and would at least set up the power of Nemesis Morgana. Oh, no, I just meant Syndra's just not really part of the team and more of a lonewolf now. I'd imagine they'll have to bring her back to explain the Prestige version just because of how different it is from her normal form aesthetically. That's fine with me, you are welcome to Fids, Morg, Ekko and Kai'Sa. I was going to do a mass add of the guardians and wanted to know who you wanted before I did that. Honestly, SG is one of my favorite skin lines, so I'll never complain about doing them.

Okay, I gave him medium "dark magic" just to represent that he's still using it, but the data manipulation is his main thing. I also gave him the tech possession and technopath as he's certainly able to take over outside tech. Also added a couple other abilities at low that he at least attempted in the LoR run, like sealing Gnar unsuccessfully. Puts him at 64k, which is a little higher than estimated, but not hugely so. I like the sound of Arcade Hero, which is the name the wiki gives the entire faction, but I wasn't sure if there should be a distinction or not. Briefly thought of calling the humans "Gamer ____," but that literally sounds like the stupidest thing I've ever thought of.

That should hopefully give time for the event to conclude. Even then, worst case scenario you re-edit it.

Oh thank god. Poor Udyr's profile been sitting in limbo for so long. Can't wait to see what they do with him!
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Hmmm i see i see, thanks for the info, and yea it does make sense for a dev diary to drop then so, fingers crossed.

Oh yea same same, in League i only ever found her unexplainably annoying or "whatever" at best, but in LoR she really is great, imo one of the champions who got the biggest improvement, feels legitimately about as perfectly Zoe as one can be. Dont have any 3 start champions here, and just used my wild fragments to get Eve since lucked out and got 5 fragments for her, just gotta level her up, beat 2.5 star Draven and then off to seeing what Kai'sa is all about. I do expect to get clapped quite damn hard until i can get Garen to 3 stars, thankfully only need 10 fragments for that so, shouldn't be too hard.

Ye the poppy comic was, even one of first ones iirc? It got released earlier than any of the marvel affiliated ones as it happened with her rework... i think... Either way eventhough its really short its among the best imo. Mhm, the DnD skinline is a pretty funny one especially considering its for LoR, but preferably a pretty big/important original skinline can be made for it too, then if its really a success they can always add some extra ones to League/wild rift later on as you mentioned after all, much easier to apply crazier concepts due to not being confined by league models/movesets.

Uhuh yea she is, quite different as a SG, her familiar cant get almost any rest, granted it is a funny gag at this point, very unexpected tho. Ah mb, just a misunderstanding then but yea perhaps they do return, i imagine Zoe will at least since we can see her in the epilogue. Oh damn really? I mean thanks a whole bunch but you sure you dont want to take at least one of the two of them? I dont want to hog "all" the villains for myself after all. And hmmm, id say it is among my favourite skinlines too, due to lore more so than skins themselves as i do find a fair number of them just okay/decent, granted there are also skins which are amazing imo (Nemesis skins, Zoe is great, Lux too, fits too perfectly as a SG to not be included)

All seems good for him and 64k is still well within reasonable/good territory imo so all things considered i think he looks great! Yea uhh, those names would be... terrible to say the least but funnily enough that was one name i thought about, and then just as you had the same exact realization that it would make for maybe even the worst names on the entire site. But alas "gamers" aside i do think Arcade Hero sounds good, i still do think there should be a distinction between the two if possible though. Maybe just "Arcade Legend ____" could work since at least for MF, Riven and Sona they are kinda supposed to be that?

Yeap same same, along with that info, the Aurelion mini-rework will come out before Udyr, and then, the next champion will apparently be a Shuriman tank. And as a tank player i am quite excited since, its been a couple years since Ornn was released (And unfortunately Rell cant really be played as anything aside from support so i dont count her)
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They don't always hit that due date, but that's rare. I expect if we do get the air commanders that there'll be a dev diary for that too.

Yeah, the LoR team absolutely nailed her as I actually like playing with her on the field because she's funny and energetic. Oh, you gotta let me know what her bonus abilities are/how her deck works. I think I have 10 shards for Kai'Sa and I'm 5 away from Lee Sin, although I don't really want to play him. Ngl, I do find Garen's 3 star kind of underwhelming, but I haven't really clicked with him in Path.

Yeah, I'm not sure on the release order, but I do wish they would release more one shots like that, as it gives us a quick insight into the characters without overstaying their welcome. Oh, yeah, I love the DnD ones, especially discovering Darius is the uber nerd DM. Yeah, I think LoR's a really good place to experiment with the skin concepts because it's not as limited as the constraints of the League framework. Like Arcade Anivia would likely not work super well in LoL.

That's still kind've unnecessarily mean for the poor familiar, but as long as it's more of a joke than anything then it can slide. Yeah, I don't know how SG can even work without Twilight Zoe as she's just such a great villain for the team. Nah, man, if you want to tackle them I'm more than fine with that. I love so many of the skins and the champions associated with them that I'm never going to complain. Plus you'll have a better grasp of the capabilities of the Nemesis champs than I will.

Hmmm, maybe we just give the so-called trinity the Arcade Legend moniker and the rest are simply Arcade Heroes. That's a good amount of differentiation imo.

Hmmm, I wonder what they'll do for the Shuriman tank. Maybe they'll serve to push that narrative forward. Although I doubt it'll go this way, but I wonder if maybe they'll be a Baccai? It'll probably be a human, but I can dream of a tanky hyena boi. I like the concepts of Rell's kit, but I have a hard time seeing her as anything other than a supp.
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Well hopefully cause i am pretty interested to see what they have i store. You following any of the other paradox games btw, pretty curious tbf since usually anyone who plays any paradox games also plays the other ones, granted HOI4 is the biggest expection to that rule.

For most part she is really good at buffing others and well herself, especially after you get her ability that gives +1/+1 whenever you evolve a champion, and considering Eve almost always evolves on turn 4 or 5 at latest its really good, especially because the +1/+1 buff applies to Husks, overall makes for an extremely strong mid-late focus deck BUT, it is kinda bad on turn 1 since the deck doesnt have good 1 mana units, at least not yet (havent checked the upgrades yet). 0 on both here tbf, got a lot of champions sitting on 20 or 25, but dont really need anyone from other regions now that i have a Runeterran champion.

Honestly i think Arcade Anivia could only be possible at all only if its a legendary or ultimate skin, her model is far too old to just put her in a plane and be done with it, and even for a 1820 skin, i stiiiill cant really see it much due to her abilities (Anivia in game also feels too damn slow to be someone in a Jet)

From what ive seen people are a bit split on it, some think Sona is taking it a bit too far on the poor mouse and others just find it funny, im somewhere in middle (bit more to funny side...) Mhm, i do think that even after the Nemesis skins SG Zoe is still the best Star Guardian skin overall, however they are close contenders. Whelp all i can say then is thanks a lot again, and i do guess you are right about the second part yea. Oh one thing about this SG event i need to kinda criticize, they have added some animations for the chat sections and especially the fights which is really nice. HOWEVER, they are extremely buggy and at times its completely impossible to access some acts, the most prominent one being chapter 2 - act 3 which is the Fiddle fight one, it is partly due to me using an older pc and also having a not idea Wifi. But even other people have complained about it, in the end i do think its mostly just cause the client itself is old, and honestly, in one of the worst states its been in a while (as far as bugs/performance go)

Yeap that works for me, and ofc Battle Bosses and such get their own names.

No idea since, not much info was revealed at all besides the fact its gonna be a "high skill tank" and that the champion will come from Nazumah which is an Aztec-Cental American looking settlement in Shurima. Not 100% sure how i feel about that due to Shurima primarily being inspired by ancient egypt but, as long as its a sub-state of Shurima same way how Ixtal and Icathia were then its could be really good i reckon. Yea... she doesnt really have enough sustained damage to go to toplane, especially because her E is literally unusable without the jungler ganking or mid roaming, and her W only really works as a somewhat lackluster escape, since using W to engage into Darius for example is plain out suicide.
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So, the dev diary for today got delayed, although they confirmed it is about the aircraft designer. Said there was some polish they needed to do on some of the icons or something. I do also play EUIV, CK2/3 and Stellaris, but I haven't been keeping up with their updates. For whatever reason I find HoIIV's dev diaries more interesting to read, but that's due to me having a lot more knowledge on WW2.

Interesting... I do like mid-game decks, but I kind of hesitate when there's not a great foundation with early game stuff. Probably why I like Annie so much because I can usually close out a game by mid just because of the raw damage she can dish out early. I either have no fragments for the champs I'm missing or 10. Then everyone I do have is 2 or 3 stars. Weird distributions.

I think it'd be a cool skin, despite her model being decrepit, I just wonder how they would make the rocket and missile based weaponry she has in the skin work for in-game. Like plumes of flame or something? Idk. And maybe she's a VTOL?

I'd probably land in the middle too, but poor lil mouse. I guess they got a bit ambitious this year with the animations then. Surprised they didn't tap into the standard visual novel thing and make everything purely 2 images. Sad to hear it's laggy/buggy, though. I'm sure that puts a crimp in the fun of it all.

Yup, that faction came pre-packaged with quantifiable positions.

The only through line I can see there is that they both utilized pyramids. Honestly feel like Aztec inspired stuff is better left to the Worldbreaker skin line or as maybe an island continent that raids the mainland for sacrifices or something along those lines. I guess it being something of a conquered land works too, but I do wish we'd get more glimpses outside of Viego and Nilah for what lays outside of Valoran. Yeah, her damage output is definitely too low. I was trying to imagine how she could possibly work as a jungle and that thought didn't go anywhere. I don't mind champs that really only have one position they can go in, but they should at least be functional/playable in other lanes under certain circumstances.

Also, to be clear, the only remaining guardian characters you want are Fiddle, Ekko, Kai'Sa and Morgana? If so, I'll request the rest here soon (tm).
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Hmmm i see, well a bit of a bummer to wait but if anything im happy they are putting extra work into it when needed. Oh damn thats a lot, and yea no i actually agree, i do not read dev diaries for other ones either, for EU4 sometimes i go on youtube and listen to someone talk about the Dev Diaries in the background but thats about it really. I guess overall it would be cause, aside from CK2 which well is not getting upgrades anymore HOI4 is my favourite paradox game by, a fair ammout, i think EU4 is a bit too repetative and Stellaris is too slow. (And CK3 is just a worse versioin of ck2 rn)

Okay so lucked out and got her level 2 and damn uh even without it, just the 1 star ability of getting 1+/1+ is absolutely broken because it is applied whenever Evelynn evolves which you can do anywhere from 2 to 4 times basically every game unless you draw her too late, in end not only does every unit have +3/+3 but every turn you also get a husk that gives +3/+4 to whomever you spawn. So overall after testing more, Eve is a bit cheezy and gimmicky but really strong. OUTSIDE of Kaisa cause holy shit i finally got there and i am getting absolutely destroyed, i havent even been able to beat Irelia once yet, might have to go and get some 3 star champions before i actually have a chance at that, either that or i need her to not have defiant dance on turn 4, as my Evelynn or Garen always just end up getting recaled before they can do anything.

Hmmm, i mean for Anivia her E can be a rocket, R could b some form of a napalm and Q could be a timed bomb of sorts, ticking faster and faster as it reaches its max range? For W i would legit just leave it as the normal ice wall as a bit of a joke, since well it is still anivia inside a plane.

I am a bit suprised too but they have clearly worked to improve the system compared to how it was in the Sentinels event, which is really great even if it is a bit laggy. Either way uh for now in chapter 3 nothing really that important has happened, Quinn and Rell arrived and so did Nilah, none of them did anything that great yet but Nilah is probably pretty strong in SG universe too as Morgana wasnt overly willing to fight her, granted its also because it would go against her plans but its still made fairly clear Nilah is supposed to be above the new SG's, both cause of that and because the new SG's cant even transform while close to Morgana while Nilah can.

I do very much agree with that, and i will segway that into a bit of a complaint about the Ruination again, i think another big problem of it is that, eventhough it was hyped for a whole year no champions that were released in said time (Viego aside) expand on Camavor or much of anything from the eastern continent. Vex mostly handles Bandle City stuff while Gwen just roams around fighting the mist. And Akshan is just a shuriman sentinel. Nilah alone gives us vastly more information than those 3 combined BUT, thats part of the problem too because right now we are supposed to expand on the void stuff which Nilah does nothing for. It would've been vastly better if she was released during the sentinels event. Not only would her being a sentinel make far more sense over someone like Rengar, she would work great to show us that there are still alive people on the eastern continent because i will be honest, before they revealed otherwise i was under the impression basically almost everyone was dead after Viego's terrible rule crumbled Camavor. Her joining the fight against Viego would also be a great way to introduce her into the story without her just "searching for new opponents" on the other side as she clearly has a lot of animosity for him anyways, or well not really animosity because she cant feel it but more so its very clear she thinks he needs to be stopped no matter what. Overall i would both like the Ruination event and Nilah a lot more if she got released then instead of now but yeea thats just my "little" rant.

Yea yea i would only like those, sorry for the slow answer in case you've been waiting for an answer to request the others.

Edit: Allegedly, Udyr should be on PBE August 8th
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I was trying to keep up with the Victoria III ones, but they were just so boring. EU IV also gets really boring as well and I went to school to study that time period. Things are either way too meme-y in that game or you're just exploiting the system. I will say it's a very useful tool for making quick maps. And, yes, HoI IV is def the best of their current line up outside of CK2. It still has a long way to go, though, as I do wish they would update old trees with new stuff (like the Mussolini mechanics would work great for Hitler and they need the balance of power stuff for Japan's army vs navy). Maybe once they get to a more "complete" state they'll do that to make the complete edition before making HoI V.

Oooooo, that sounds like quite a bit of fun. Just got her recently, but I don't have any of her powers yet which are def sounding nasty now. Yeah, the Kai'Sa campaign is absolutely insane. Irelia is freaking brutal with all of the recall bs, but Kai'Sa herself is another level imo. I barely pulled off a win against her with Annie by absolutely abusing the disintegrate spell to auto kill her as soon as she came out. It was still stupid close and came down to top decking to finally pull off the win. I do not look forward to going through that again with Gwen whenever I get her because she's the only Shadow Isles champ atm.

Hmmm, those could work, although maybe the Ice Wall could be like digitized crystals or something. Maybe imply it's some type of missile type weapon she to trap flightless enemies.

Huh, that's an interesting enough twist. Just spit balling, but maybe Morgana emits some kind of aura that prevents the strong emotions that allow them to transform? I do hope they release the transcripts from the story this time too after the event is over. That would be super nice.

The only thing I will say that makes Nilah arriving now make sense is that Viego being trapped in Camavor is causing issues in her homeland. Otherwise, I completely agree with your assessment. Hopefully the Shuriman Tank will somehow connect better with the (hopefully) upcoming Void event. Maybe they'll be a survivor of Belveth (the city) or something along those lines... Although I still want a Hyena Baccai, which I know will not happen.

You're fine, I've been doing a ton of the Digimon stuff, so it is not an issue to have to wait.

I hope so! I wanna know what Sej's foster daddy has been up to!
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Yeeea definetely agree there, was honestly a lot more excited for Victoria III before we started getting info on it, because as old and clunky as Victoria II is, i do find it entertaining. Mhm yea HOI4 still does have a lot to improve on but honestly even as is, all of the base mechanics in the game are by far the best out of the paradox ones. Another way to kinda easily see that is that is to play the base game, imo at least its considerably the most fun game when all the games are played without DLCs whatsoever. Not even sure what they could change drastically enough for HOI V but i wouldnt complain at all, after all HOI III and HOI IV are probably my 3rd and 2nd favourite paradox games respectively. (Although Stellaris is a contender for 3rd spot alongside HOI III)

You managed to beat Kai'sa with Annie?? Damn... i have no idea how you managed to do that whatsoever but great job. I did finally manage to actually beat her with Yasuo after a few attempts with him... and around 15+ with Garen which all failed very miserably expect one where i managed to reach Kai'sa and even almost beat her but lost due to not having enough damage to take her out, she survived on 2 hp and then i died but hey thats when i tried Yasuo and it worked great. Another thing tho, played Galio too, he is pretty hard too but ive already beaten him with Garen and Yasuo and i would say he is a bit easier overall (eventho he is a 3.5 star), gonna need to level up Evelynn a bit more before then since, the first dauntless vanguard level always takes out a fair ammount of my health due to husks, and then the deck is also pretty bad when it comes to dealing with Zoe.

Hmm yea it could be just her firing a special rockets that creates the crystal wall, either way pretty sure the skin department would figure something out.

That is possible yea, it isnt quite specified why they cant transform in her presence at least not that i remember (gonna re-read everything once its over to catch back up on everything). Oh yes please that would be incredible because, checking back lore stuff for the sentinels event for example is pretty bad at times due to it only being possible by watching youtube playthroughs, which are really long and slow at times.

I would very much so like a bit of a monstrous Baccai to be the tank shuriman myself, we dont really have one but i guess maybe they dont want him to be "similar" to Warwick, although to be completely honest i think that would be a pretty bad excuse if it got used by someone. Still if new info does come along on the shuriman il be sure to keep you informed.

Ah i see, good to know i didnt really cause an inconvenience.
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Hey! How are you doing?
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Doin alright. Workin a lot lately, so I haven't been able to do as much on here as I'd like. Yourself?
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Oh you know been doing fine. Just finished my spring semester in college and have more time now than I did the past few months. Been a very busy year for me lately.
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Ah, I thought I had noticed you weren't as active as you used to be. Everything go well in school overall though?
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Yeah you know covid times have been very tough on me lately regarding schoolwork but recently did very well grade wise.
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Which lane are you?
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In League? If so, I usually play support. If otherwise, please clarify.
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League, but it's a game I never played but you always talk about it.
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Just wanted to be sure, as there are a few other MOBAs. League's not my favorite game ever, but I really like the lore and the champs, especially Braum.
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And back off to here we go.

Yea yea exactly exactly, that was just what had in mind too as well firstly, the entire Shurima/Xerath/Azir plotline is one of the oldest while also possibly being the first "Big" storyline we've had, and it hasnt gotten an update in, well, years. Having a payoff with the two brothers reuniting and the 3 leftover Asceded beating Xerath would be the favourite conclusion of any story we've had yet or could have in a while for me. Plus yes they could just have Xerath explode only for a piece of his energy to survive, with him then slowly rebuilding back, and if that doesnt work, they could make him possess one of the followers he has empowered.

As far as Star Guardian goes id only really like to do Syndra, aside from that you can take everyone and if there is anyone you just dont like/dont care about then ye feel free to pass them along. Worldbreaker wise aside from well Nasus i would like to do Malza and Elise, cause damn do i love their aesthethic, i generally love anything thats even vaguely Aztec looking and those two blow it out of the sky for me (Plus does help i like both normally anyways). But yea uhhh, giving Worldbreakers a very quick readthrough i do agree, those 4 (Karma, Maokai, Malphite and Susan) should be 5 while everyone else is seemingly 4.

As far as Event horizon goes you can take everyone, i dont really like the cosmic or dark star's appearances or lore for most part (of course there are some i like more than others but generally really not invested in the skinline)

Pulsefire/Praetorian wise i can do Riven since well, you hate her and id like to do Praetorian Fiddle if thats cool?

Yea that works for me completely, but just to confirm...
Me: (Ahri, Gnar, Kai'Sa, Sona, Bel, Brand, Nocturne, Riven, Qiqi, Anivia)

You:(Ez, Hecarim, Veigar, Yasuo, Quinn, Cait, Corki, MF, Blitz, Malz and Ziggs)
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I think that would just be the best way to pay off the story while still leaving it open for eventually revisiting when maybe Xerath comes back completely unbound. Could lead to a cool conflict between the nations and maybe they have to go to Thresh for aid or they even figure out how to use Galio to seal Xerath inside. I'd also like to see then too the Darkin seeing the Ascended coming back and maybe attempting to reclaim their own power. Also gotta get the geopolitical reaction to Shurima seemingly being united again under 3 demigods.

I have no trouble doin the rest of the Guardians as I just love the skinline. I'll mark down in my notes that you wanna do the 4th, 5th and 7th Titans. I just love the Worldbreaker lore, it's so cool and the skins were such good value!

Cool with me. Let me know if you decide you wanna give any of them a crack.

Oh yeah, if you wanna do Riven and Fiddles, that's fine with me. I was gonna do the Praetorians last for that line so I could get a feel for how everyone else was landing on the power scale.

Cool, super happy we're in agreement there. I think we should try to finish up the lines we're working on/have planned and then maybe we can move onto Odyssey and High Noon afterwards probably. I will say for the latter that I don't really consider Alistar, Cait, MF, Kog or Skarner part of the universe. They just don't really have any lore to them and are seemingly unrelated to the conflict.
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Yea thats something shurima is lacking extremely, others actually reacting to Shurima being reborn and well, all of a sudden four Ascended demi-gods appearing "out of nowhere" after centuries of not even one being around. Like sure Shurima did fall a while ago so most people likely wouldn't remember but any Darkin, Targon champs and specifically Swain should all be aware of what the Shuriman empire was like and how big of a deal them returning is, it would also be nice if Ixtal found out about it because considering how important Shurima was in their history they should all still know about it and the reactions could be pretty mixed with maybe some wanting to rejoin the empire to not risk being attacked and well the others wanting to stay even more isolated then before.

Oh yea well thanks a lot then! Will note down the things myself cause ye, memory is a bit bad at times for sure. Do quite agree there, Worldbreakers are an extremely minor skinline but one i do quite like, it has a special feeling to it kinda like Battlecast just more, "gods of doom reawakening" style.

Will do will do.

Yea Praetorians are fairly an enigma to me as well so will likely keep Fiddle for the end. Should i request Riven along with your next batch of Pulsefires?

Mhm for sure for sure, doing too many skinlines at the same time would be confusing anyways so for now i will focus on Battlecast first (btw if you want to doany resistance/battlecast skins just mention them ofc), and then secondarily Worldbreakers and my part of the SG/Pulsefire skins etc etc. Oh yea nah absolutely same, aint no way i am counting Alistar and MF in cowboy outfits as high noon, they dont fit the aesthethic of it nor do they have any lore for me to count em as such. (Although Alistar in a Cowboy outfit is a pretty good meme)

Whelp, Riot is really releasing new champs like crazy, although for this one i was kinda really hoping the leaks were fake cause, she really doesnt look like she fits in League, for example what region does she look like? The clothes could be vaguely Ionian (KINDA) but then she uses elemental magic so she likely has some connection to Ixtal and in the trailer at least she is clearly in Bilgewater so? And i dont really think she can pass for a Buhru either. I dont know i just think she looks more like a Valorant design than a league one but thats just my small rant... (Gameplay looks very annoying too due to the, seemingly invulnerability+buncha dashes)

Edit: I guess technically we are getting a, water "mage" bilgewater champion like we talked about eh...
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I would think Noxus's first move would be to try to grab as much territory as possible, especially if it would shorten their frontline overall with Shurima so they could prepare to invade or be invaded. Then I'd assume Swain would try to wind down any campaigns going on elsewhere and martial his forces. Maybe even see about recruiting the Darkin as a counterweight if he could. Targon would definitely be uneasy about the whole thing. Not enough to get the Lunari and Solari on speaking terms, but still. Also wonder how Pantheon would react to more living gods? I definitely can't see Ixtal willingly bowing to Azir, especially if QiQi has anything to say about it...

Notes are always helpful with long term projects. I also really like the Super Galaxy line even though it might've been better for it to be part of the Mecha universe or vice versa.

My gut on the Praetorians is they're high tier 3 or low tier 4. Enough to be a threat to most places, but not insurmountable. They also can't be in Thresh's league. I'll be requesting Lucy, Fiora and Ekko next, so yeah, feel free.

That all sounds like a plan. The only BC skin I might wanna do is Zac and that's just because I like the acronym his name has now. I'm honestly surprised they haven't updated the skins to fit better into the universe or just straight up made them High Noon skins and relegating the old ones to the vault. CowCowman Alistar is a pretty funny skin, ngl.

Yeah, I absolutely hate this chick on every front. She def doesn't fit anywhere aesthetically, her kit looks stupid broken and she looks like another champ that's just absolutely full of themselves. I agree on the Valorant front as well. I think she needs to go back on the drawing board so they can pretend this never happened. I do like the water whip idea, but that's the end of my praise.
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I do think he would definetely be open to accepting more or less anyone or everyone into service at least temporarily, i do also imagine he would try making some sort of an alliance/treaty with Piltover-Zaun considering they are the one land connection between Noxus and Shurima so it would be a very useful chokepoint to setup defenses. Ohhh, Pantheon likely wouldnt be very uh "overjoyed", maybe it could be used to "revive" his motivation to climb Targon again in an attempt to regain his powers, especially since well at least according to The Call he will do that one way or another. Oh yea nah the leadership of Ixtal and Qiqi especially wouldnt even think of it as a possibility, i just imagine some of the regular population could be a bit too scared to fight Ascended, and maybe even a bit mad at the leadership considering "most" believe everything outside of the Ixtali jungles is completely destroyed by the void.

Oh ye same, while i would like it being part of the mecha universe (same with mecha kingdoms) i guess the 3 aesthethics would be a bit too different? Well Warring Kingdoms and Mecha less so and Super Galaxy more so considering they are all pretty Gundam-esque in appearance. Still either way i do quite like the skinline, definetely one of my favourite out of the "minor" skinlines.

Oh yea nah nowhere even close to Thresh, i would say probably tier 3 or maybe even high tier 2 but only because, while they are supposed to be a great threat, from the Bio's its kinda implied to be both cause they are strong but also because there is a large number of them. Aight gonna add in Riven in a bit then.

Sure sure, feel free to take Zac. A bit yea, granted Riot doesnt do that too often with the skins, still Alistar being turned into some form of a cow demon could work well while MF could be the leader of the largest gang in the "wasteland", could also make her guns use demonic energy due to some contract she made with Tahm or Morde, pretty sure something better could be made up but those are at least decent baseline ideas for them imo.

Sooooooo about that, according to Riot Reave she is supposed to be someone from Camavor or well more specifically from "the eastern continent" which i mean sure, we dont really know that much about it but she still just doesn't fit appearance wise, same way how Seraphine doesnt even if she is "the idol singer of Zaun/Piltover" (Which shouldnt be a thing itself but oh well...)
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I can definitely see Swain wanting to get some of the tech those places can offer into his forces, although I would bet he'd find Zaun more willing to go along with his plans than Piltover. I wonder if/when Pantheon did reascend the summit if he would just get the Warrior's powers back or channel a different aspect instead? If he got empowered by another my best bets would be on the Destroyer due to it being something of a protector while also kind of fitting into Atreus's fighting style. Oh, those are definitely some good points... Maybe the leadership tries to frame the Ascended as creatures from the Void? I mean, no one's seen them in centuries, so it's not completely unbelievable if a bit of a stretch.

I feel like they could have easily framed the different lines as being each nation's take on how to deal with the Giant Enemy threat. The Kingdom ones are clearly a Chinese influenced civilization (for our purposes we'd probably call them Ionia), Mecha is more of the American influenced style (probably a mashup of Zaun, Noxus and Demacia) and Super Galaxy is the more straight Japanese style (Piltover+). It'd make enough sense, especially when you look at the sheer variety that mecha take on based on country of origin (and something Pacific Rim tried to show). Even if they wanted to spin off Super Galaxy as its own thing (maybe a part of Odyssey or Star Guardians), I can see the other two coexisting quite well.

The only reason I say high 3 to low 4 is that Fiddle's says he assimilates all tech and eradicates all life while Graves's talks about how complex his AI is. I think they'd be on-par (if maybe a little below) the Chrono-Enforcers because otherwise I don't think Thresh would want to bother with them.

I'll add him to my list. I definitely like the Cow Demon idea. I think MF staying as a bounty hunter that also leads a large gang of sort would definitely work for her character in that setting. Maybe Sheriff Cait could get a more clockwork angel inspired gun as well.

Yeah, she feels too SE Asian to be from Camavor, which was a very distinctly Wester European civ... I do want to know more about the Eastern continent, but she def just feels wrong. Seraphine is someone for me who feels like they added her in so she could be in K/DA...

So, it looks like they're being weirdly picky on request for right now, so I'd say we just hang back for a bit and leave what we have requested as is...

Did you see they're finally revamping the Italian focus tree in HoI IV?
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Hmmmm, considering the Aspect of War is dead, or well is he? We know that Viego revived him but i dont remember anything being told about what actually happened to him after the sentinels defeated Pantheon, i guess if we go by other Ruined Champs reverting back to their normal selves he would've probably disappeard since the Black Mist wasnt keeping him alive? Either way that aside the Destroyer could work yea, would also give nice lore to the other aspects. Could be possible could be yea.

True tbf, didnt really think about that but the different nation approach could work. It would also be a nice way to give all 3 skinlines something new cause honestly they have all kinda been "dead" for some time now. Honestly i think Super Galaxy could work really well with Odyssey, SG less so purely cause well, they are supposed to be the "hero group" in their universe, and while having two can often work well to build some connections between them, i feel they would be a bit too similar from one group to another.

Hmmmm, yea those are pretty good points tbf, should be 3/4 as you've said.

Really like the gun idea, could also make Cait and MF rivals then if so, cause well opposites and all that all that.

I also dont really like the theories of people thinking she is in a pact with a "Demon of Joy" purely cause, arent all demons and Azakana supposed to feed off fears and negative emotions more or less? Of course those are just theories people are making up for now but, i sure dont like em. Yes, whatever Seraphine is herself in lore the worst part about her is that i do believe she was made as a K/DA idea first and then a champion in league.

Yea sure that sounds good, tbf i was having a rough time making up a name for Pulsefire Riven anyways so, gives me a bit more i guess.

Yes yes yes i have and all i can say is finally, cause damn Estonia and all the other baltic states got focuses before Italy got the well deserved revamp, been only lightly following it for now though, waiting for the dev diaries to start getting released.
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I would assume there's some kind of reincarnation system for the Aspects perhaps? Cause they seem to exist outside of linear time or at least the Aspect of Twilight/Change does. I would assume Warrior is dead (tm), though. The Destroyer is really the only other one I can think of that would work for Pantheon, although maybe him ascending the Mountain heals the Warrior. Idk, it's unclear how that all works.

Yeah, I'm doubtful they'll ever expand those universes. Only thing I could see spurring them on would be if a mecha anime or something took off. Honestly surprised they didn't really capitalize on GvK, cause like Ape Sion needs to be a thing. True, Super Galaxy would definitely work better as a part of the Odyssey line.

I'm honestly surprised we haven't gotten more Praetorians. Just off the top of my head, but Renata could work well. A Praetorian Bard would be pretty cool and give him an evil skin. I'd say Praetorian Annie would be funny, but she's got enough skins.

I'm also thinking it could be cool if maybe Vi was one of MF's enforcers and then maybe GP or Illaoi could aid Cait in trying to protect civilians.

As far as I know, you're correct on the demons of Runeterra embodying negative emotions, but I've also read into some stuff on SE Asian cultures and how demon is used a little bit more broadly. Maybe this demon of joy could be part of another demon faction we don't know about yet. Just spit balling cause I think there's some cool ideas here, but that execution... Seraphine's just too close in ideation to Sona imo, but I do like the idea of trying to have more music/sound based champs in the game, as there's a lot to work with there.

I also requested some more of the dinos from JW: Dominion (because I saw that today). IDk, we'll just wait and see how long this mercurial streak lasts.

Tbf, the baltic countries kinda needed an overhaul if the SU was going to get one, although it's strange Finland didn't get one as well, what with the Winter War. I've read through the first dev diary on Italy and it looks solid enough and I like how part of their mechanics is trying to serve Mussolini's ego. Really hope they add that to Nazi Germany as well for Hitler. Only thing I'm iffy on is that if you go with the Stressa Front to ally with Austria against the Nazis that you're locked into trying to ally with the Entente/Allies. Feels weird to lock that path into that alliance. They are teasing Commie and Monarchist Italy, so I'm excited for that.
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Hmmm well probably, they should be "more immortal" than Darkin like Aatrox who is well, pretty hard to properly kill to say the least so, yea? Considering we've never had the same human climb the Mountain twice, no real concrete evidence but uhh, maybe? Its possible at least i guess. Although personally i would've prefered if Pantheon just was the same way he was before the Ruination, because well originally took hold of the power he got from the Warrior through sheer willpower and dedication to fight, having him kinda get his powers "just like that" feels a bit wrong.

Hmmmmm, yea but problem is that, besides some sequels to Gundam or Evangelion or whatnot, Mecha anime itself has been, quite "dead" for some time, which is a shame cause i do like it as a genre. Lol, monke Sion would indeed be quite a sight to see and yea it is a bit suprising, bit off topic but GvK was pretty enjoyable.

Bard really really need's and evil skin and Renata could work really well too due to the robot that follows her anyways. Among other champions id say Azir might be a really good one cause, turning his sand soldiers into praetorian murder bots is something id like to see, especially cause uh, the Praetorians could use a heavy-hitter of their own and he could be the one if they made him the head of the hive-mind sorta thing. Plus Azir really needs a skin he hasnt gotten any in ages.

Huh, yea that does sound like a funny swap-around of how things are normally, neat too, they could also go fully all out with a steampunk appearance for Vi, steam being shot out of her gauntlets with each Q-E, etc etc.

I think the concepts are cool on their own but just, ugh as a whole package, really not that intrigued, but well lets try to be fair and wait for her lore and full kit to be released first, still plenty of time for them to change things around at least in a minor way. What i would've prefered over Seraphine is a sound magic user that was actually a villain, because yea uh Seraphine and Sona are both very kind hearted musicians, who are also both enchanter supports with, a damn near exact same kit. No doubt in my mind someone over at Riot had to mention how similar they are during development but alas, a damage dealing sound mage would be a nice way to differentiate things, in lore could just be someone from Sylas' rebellion.

Oh really? You liked it? Cause i havent seen it yet. Mhm, oh well as long as at least some of the ones we are waiting on get approved waiting a week or two is gonna be completely fine.

Well yea they did need it and in an ideal world every nation should have at least a small focus tree. But yea uhh to say the least Finland was far more important than any of the baltic states, a really weird choice from Paradox to do nothing with them. Oh? That sounds good, really good, really like when they add specific country-based mechanics like that, another example would be Stalin's paranoia they added in the last DLC. Ehhh so no more Pact of Rome and building your own "axis" sorta deal? That is a bit disappointing i do gotta say. Oh thank god, finally some alternate paths to Italy out of the major nations i think i played them the least, only ones that come close is UK but mostly cause i really dont like dealing with Naval Warfare in HOI4.
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Yes, I would say for him to get his powers back he'd need to go through some types of trials. Maybe one in each region to kind of help him establish in himself what he's fighting for and that's what "revives" the Warrior because they're more concepts than anything.

I really enjoy mecha stuff as I find guys piloting giant robots to be more believable than someone just having super powers for some reason. And then if you throw some kaiju in there... Yes, Monke Sion would be so much fun, especially if all of his VO was replaced with just grunts and other ape noises. Then have his blood barrier thing be a banana barrier and we're set. I... have a lot of problems with GvK, but it was an enjoyable movie. When we actually got to see GZ and Kong fight was when it was at its best. I'll still always prefer King of the Monsters, though, because it had an amazing incarnation of King Ghidorah (my favorite kaiju).

Yes. Yes 10000x yes to Praetorian Azir! That is such a freakin cool idea. And if we're thinking like how League likes to think with having enough skins in a line to cover positions, just with that idea we have ADC, Mid and Jungle (Fiddle is still a jungle, right?) covered. I'd say Praetorian Bard for supp. Then if we're needing a tank, they need some bulk so maybe Ornn or Rek'Sai? The latter of which would be really cool, having her literally tunneling through time.

Oh, yes, I like the steam idea, especially if they play up that it's super heated or something. GP having a steampunk/clockwork arm would be pretty cool too, especially if he's the "slightly" corrupt deputy to Caitlyn that lets certain things slip by his notice.

Yeah, we'll definitely have to wait and see. Lord knows I love Bel'Veth's lore and not the game play. Oh, yes, definitely some kind of foil to Sona's place in Demacia would've been much better. And if she somehow sowed discord in Demacia with her abilities could be really cool too.

I did enjoy the movie. Dominion wasn't the best thing ever, but it was still a fun movie. Idk why everyone's been so hard on it. It'll happen eventually...

Only reason I can think why they didn't touch Finland is if they're planning on doing another region specific pack focused on Scandinavia. Oh, yes, the paranoia mechanic is good and really helps limit the effectiveness of the SU early on. Here's the dev diary if you want to check out the changes they've planned. Kinda disappointed they're keeping the new unit types to only Italy, Ethiopia and Switzserland. So, you still seem to get to have your own mini-axis, but you're kind of forced into playing second-fiddle to the Entente, which is uber lame. I really hope the Monarchist path lets you ally with Austria-Hungary and Imperial Germany. I will say Naval Warfare was much better after Man the Guns and they've said they're going to be doing a ton of balance changes to make warship builds more condition dependent. They've also confirmed Midget Subs!!!
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Hmmmm, yea perhaps especially with the entire "void invasion" we are presumably gonna be getting he could get his resolve and powers back in a way.

The only thing i would possibly include besides the ape noises for Sion would be some Planet of Apes references, but far more importantly, his E better be a very loud monke screech and having his ult be just a giant monke running at all 4's on someone would be an easy selling point. Mhm yea pretty much the same place i stand, the fight between them and all that jazz was pretty entertaining while the rest of the movie was more or less just okayish.

And yea Ornn could work but i feel he would maybe be a bit too bulky for it, i think Praetorians should be more on the uh, "sleek, slenderly, creepier" side than something like Mecha and Battlecast. I would've suggested Aatrox as a different top but he already has a mecha skin, perhaps Kayle could work though, no robot skin and she would have a truly evil skinline for it too, if only tanks are concerned though. If we are only looking for a tankier champion though im not sure cause most either already have a mecha/battlecast skin or wouldnt fit overly well imo.

Yea you dont need to say that twice, the more i play with/against her the less i like her, i dont think i will ever have her among the champions i dislike the most in gameplay buuuut, she is the level just above that, very annoying and disappointing. Could be used as a way to propel Sona's own story/character more, maybe she would finally need to learn to control her powers properly or whatnot to stop the other sound mage but alas, at least a way to involve her a bit more into the entire civil war thing.

Hmmmm i see i see, cause yea it has been getting absolutely bombarded with "commentary".

Oh, yea that is a pretty smart reasoning tbf cause doing one for only Denmark, Norway and Sweden would be kinda weird. Read around half of it for now, will do other half later on but yea uhh, i really like that they are adding new unit types but its always a shame when its only for specific nations, at least in case of Camelry (and somewhat Bicycle battalions) it makes sense cause they really werent that used but eh. Yea that is kinda lame, if we could choose whether to stick with Entente or stay on our own that would be completely fine but yea. Oh im sure they will go for it, wonder if they will revise the German side of the tree for it a bit cause of entire "Assassinate Mussolini" focus and all that. Good good, i want to spam Battleships just like i used to in HOI3! Ohhh nice nice, hopefully they will definetely have their niche especially i presume in the english channel or mediterranean sea.

Seemingly new batch of SG skins is coming along as a teaser came out just earlier today, didnt reveal too much really besides Katarina MAYBE being one of them (really hard for me to tell honestly cause they didnt include the eye scar obviously) but that aside the artstyle was absolutely gorgeous.
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I was actually thinking about an ultimate skin for Pantheon today and I came up with the idea of God Killer Pantheon where he severed ASol's connection to Mt. Targon and has gone on a crusade to eradicate all immortal creatures from the face of Runeterra. Obvs the idea is to just take him up to 11 and one where he's going around and killing any god he can get his hands on while being cloaked in essentially the corpses of the Celestials would be super cool.

Maybe his back could include him pounding a Statue of Liberty-esque object into the ground and only being happy once only its head is sticking up. I love the other ideas, especially him running on all fours with the ax on his back. I really wish GvK hadn't gone with the MechaG route. Much rather they used a more obscure character masquerading as the King and it only being revealed later, thinking either Biollante or Orga. The latter would be especially cool because his whole stick was being able to absorb DNA with his bite. Just imagining Kong getting the upper hand on him only to get bitten and Orga becoming more like the end form he was supposed to get:


Perhaps Rell then? Make her "human" self be like a wirey endoskeleton and the horse being her armor? I'm kinda sad we got Battlecast Urgot, even though it's a great skin, so we could get Praetorian Urgot. But, yeah, Kayle would work, although she just has so many skins.

I think I would've been more of a fan of Bel if they hadn't made her so slap happy. It just looks so silly. Honestly, there's so much Demacian lore they have failed to capitalize on. It's the region (right after Shurima) that desperately needs its narrative pushed forward. Literally anything would work!

Idk why everyone's so mad about the stupid dinosaur movie. At least it pretty much ends the franchise, thankfully.

I hope they do do a pack for Scandinavia, South America and at least the Middle East. Seeing the Golden Circle actually ally with the Axis and outflank the British could be really cool. I think they have a lot of cool ideas. I think Militias would make a lot of sense for a Commie USA to be able to field as their main unit. And the irregular forces would be good to add to nations like India and probably Turkey too. Yes, the Stressa Front really needs to be a ally with the Entente for concessions or build your own alliance in the Balkans to create more of a Roman Federation. I would say all they'd need to do is make the Assassinate Mussolini get bypassed if he's not in charge anymore. Might mess up timings, but oh well, we've got the boyz back together! I will say you can actually get quite a lot of utility out of Battleships just due to how you can make variants for different occasions, but I'll assume you'd want Heavy Cruisers for the Med. I'm assuming the Midget subs will mostly be useful for attacking ships in harbor, although that could be super annoying.

I saw!!! Super hyped, although I'm wondering who all the full cast will be. Kat seems likely, as you've said. My predictions for the other 4 would be Gwen, Kalista (because it'd be funny), Taric and maybe Senna with Lucian being a corrupted Guardian as a nice switch up of their standard dynamic.
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Oh hell yes, him having an appearance thats a bit more akin to The Warrior (in LoR) but with much darker colors, however, his cape should look even more "celestial" than it already does with all the stars in it and whatnot. Along with him keeping parts or being covered in the stuff from celestials i would also give him some battle damage that clearly reflected who he fought, idk an example could be having one of his shoulders be completely charred from sunlight due to his fight with Leona, amazing idea you thought, easily has potential to be the best skin in the game imo.

That would work too, perhaps he could also be fitted into the "prehistoric" skinline? Doubt they are ever getting a new skin but a Monke Sion could fit into it. Yea Orga would've been amazing, finally would get to see him on the big screen too which would be a rather big suprise, in a good way ofc.

Yea Battlecast Urgot is good but, i think he would work much better as a Praetorian myself, he did always have more of a creepy/scary appearance which works better with Praetorian as they are supposed to be far more unsettling than Battlcast on average, and ye Rell could work really well like that.

Oh yea for sure, Riot really went ahead and gave Demacia some of the biggest expansion in the lore with the whole mage revolution, only to... stop "midway" through? cause its been over 2 years since we got any significant progression in it no? If not 2 years its been more than a year for sure, because yea uh Shurima and Demacia suffer by far most so from having completely unresolved conflicts that are very important. Its as if Noxus invaded Ionia again and then things just paused with nothing happening for a while.

Id say at least Scandinavia and Middle east, South America idk what they would do, especially cause, giving them too many focuses could really mess up some of the Portugal (Monarchist path) and Spain focuses. Mhm i would also add Irregular units to the Soviets, they do need something thats in essence worse infantry that requires less equipment but the same manpower as a normal division, ofc much worse than a regular infantry division but a lot more spammable too. Eh, thats lame, hopefully it gets changed or at least slightly altered. Hmmm yea, especially if comboed with CAS, port striking could become extremely extremely annoying, but on the other hand it could also be a fair mechanic in a way? Cause presumably the midget subs will have really terrible range (comparatively) so in case of UK for example stationing the fleet outside of Dover or any of the closer ports to mainland europe would need to be something to think about, i guess adds a bit more gameplay and thinking to naval warfare so, i wouldnt even mind it that much.

According to what people are theorizing from some minor "possible" hints inside the video, they think it could be Seraphine/Sona, Quinn, Kai'sa and maybe Akali. If any of those would be the ones i hope it would be Seraphine or Sona, dont really think the other 3 would fit the skinline that well. In an ideal world tho, yea Gwen, Kalista and ESPECIALLY Taric would be amazing., i wouldnt go with Senna and Lucian since Rakan and Xayah kinda fill their role already but, wouldnt mind it either.

Edit: The theme for the SG event also just came out like, 10 mins ago, really nice to see an event be hyped up quite properly, granted SG always was one of the higher priority ones.
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Yes, that almost transcendent look about him. Love the battle damage idea, especially as I was thinking the main PoD is that the Aspects asserted themselves on their hosts, eliminating the original personality. That way too we can have Pantheon adding parts of the other hosts armory to himself like maybe Leona's sowrd is now the spear head and he has Taric's gems embedded in his shield. I think that ASol being freed from his bonds also allows him to get into a battle with Zoe that gets turned into a constellation behind Pantheon in the splash. It'd just be such a great Ultimate skin for him, both representing the apex of his power and a sorrowful potential future.

Oh, yes, that'd work out quite well. I do like that line too and it'd be cool to see him fight both Jurassic and Prehistoric Cho in another GvK ref. I've always liked Orga and was super disappointed how little he got to do in his film, although his game appearances might've slightly over compensated.

Tbf the skin was made before his update, but yeah, it works so much better for Praetorian, especially with his sadistic updated lore. I really do hope we get more Praetorians as that's my favorite skin for Graves. Really outstanding work imo. Honestly they could make Praetorian Alpha Bel'Veth and that'd just be epic.

Yeah, there really hasn't been anything new since what, Sylas? I wish they'd maybe do quarterly events that appear as special game modes that do faction vs faction stuff that they can use to determine where the stories are going. The Mage rebellion vs Demacia could be hard, but you could just frame it as Sylas recruited outside mercenary help or something and give like 15-20 champs as choices for each side. Extra points if it's not a standard lane based game mode.

I'm only really thinking for South America they do stuff for the ex-Spanish colonies like they did with China where each has a pretty similar tree but with some specific bits relevant to each nation. Only nations that need a true tree in SA are Argentina and Brazil, I'd argue. Yes, Soviets should 100% get Irregulars or I'd say the militias could work too. Just really anything to hammer home how relatively underequipped they were at the beginning of the war. As long as the M Subs are super fragile and have a short range, they'd be acceptable imo. At least then it'd be pretty obvious what ports to defend them with. Maybe there could be a module for a Capitol ship that allows them to transport M Subs? Cause I know the Japanese did that at Pearl Harbor. It'd be super niche, but potentially a nice surprise play. I think that all could work with the limited range and hopefully wouldn't be too annoying/ridiculous.

I like the idea of Quinn and Sona/Seraphine (would prefer the latter due to her lack of skins). Akali is one I kinda don't want, as she just has so much and Kai'Sa I want her to get a new pure Void skin or something. True about Senna and Lucian. I just like to see roles get reversed in the AUs.

I'll have to listen to it when I get home, as League always knocks those themes out of the park. Today has been absolutely rough, so I apologize for the long delay. Saw the response this morning and thought I had time to respond, but nope.
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Mhm mhm the whole collecting "trinkets" thing would work very great, the splash even more so i can definetely see it being an amazing ultimate. Maybe they could also make it so that after killing Zoe he finds out about the other universes due to Ezreal making a portal while passing through his own timeline. Considering it would be an ultimate it would be really nice to make him the extra threat villain/anti-hero of the skinlines at least temporarily plus we dont really have something like that atm anyways.

Hmmmmm, yea it is my favourite Graves skin too granted Snowday is really close cause i like all snowday skins. Didt think about Bel'veth at all but yea she would make an amazing Praetorian.

If it was a special gamemode id do it with something like Nexus Blitz or Twisted Treeline, OR, best option imo would be to bring back Dominion since its, capture the points style gameplay would really work well for it what its supposed to be, only thing i would also add is that id change the map aesthethically based on what Lore Regions were present, example for Sylas's rebelion id give the turrets a more distinctly Demacian appearance while some of the roads could also be paved in the "marbly rock" colors, nothing too fancy so its not too hard but, enough changes so its noticeable.

Oh, yea i didnt even consider them having the china-warlord focus tree's but that wouold be pretty good. And yea uh Brazil and Argentina, maybe at best Venezuela too purely because its the only fascist nation in the continent and because restoring Gran Colombia could make for some fun gameplay. Ohh yea perhaps a module for the Aircraft Carriers that sacrificed some of the deck slots for the M Subs, and honestly even if its kinda not worth it at all i love having it in the game, same way how Tank Destroyers were almost never really built in HOI4 before but damn did i like that they were included nonetheless!

The only reason why i dont think it will be Seraphine is that she just got the Ocean Song skin and a Prestige version of it, so i dont see Riot giving her SG too barely a month after that although yes i would prefer if it was Seraphine in this case too for same reason. And yea those do make sense as well. Edit 2: Sooo yea uh, we are getting, SG Kai'sa, SG Sona, SG Ekko and Star Nemesis Fiddle, some can already be seen on [email protected], quite like the Fiddle one for example, Sona one is just okay tho imo.

Oh please no need to worry at all, take as much time as neccesary, you just take things at your own pace and reply whenever you can, best of luck taking care of whatever is keeping you busy btw.

Speaking of Kai'sa tho, she has been confirmed to be added in the next LoR expansion here along with the next champions also being someone who "thrives in the darkness" and the other being "an unlikely hero whose power is unconventional". For the darkness one considering both Zed and Noc are in the game, i think Evelynn is likely the best assumption but it could also be Fiddle. For the hero one tho i kinda am really not sure, id say most likely tho it could either be Sona since she gets her powers from the Etwahl or Nunu and Willump. Other guess would be Ryze due to world runes but calling him a hero is a bit of a stretch perhaps (he also doesnt actually use world runes but yea...). I also really hope they arent reffering to Nilah with the whole hero thing, cause technically she uses "some" demon to fight and that is likely the closest anyone gets to Kai'sa using a void monster to fight.

Edit: Nilah's abilities and also Splash have been revealed here. Overall dont think i will find her entertaining to fight at all but more importantly, is it just me or does the splash feel like its done in a different art style compared to the normal one? Oh and ye her starting skin is confirmed to be SG so i guess thats 1.
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Oh man, that'd be super freaking cool, especially if we get a Dark Cosmic Jhin vs God Killer Pantheon. Def an epic confrontation.

Honestly, Graves has some pretty solid skins (I actually went to my local ComiCon as Pool Party Graves a few years ago). I just feel like she fits the theme very well, especially if her lore has her gaining sentience in a time-travel parallel to normal Bel. Plus lil Praetorians she'd spawn'd be cute.

Dominion would probably be the best option, but they'd need to do a lot of tweaking. I always liked it, but alas. Yes, 1000% at least make it snowy/sandy/whatever to fit the aesthetics of the region its taking place it. Honestly just changing the texture on the turrets to be white like Petricite for Demacia wouldn't even be that hard.

Venezuela getting a tree would be cool, but they just didn't really do much during the war period like the latter two did. I would legit love a tree for Paraguay that aimed to help them conquer Argentina and Brazil as a meme too. That's exactly what I was thinking and like it'd hold only a few of them. It'd make for maybe an interesting anti-navy turtle ship or just a meme option. I will say I like equipping my motorized divisions with TDs even though I know it's not 100% worth it over say just pulled AT or a Light Tank.

Oh damn. I should've seen Ekko coming and I legit kinda hate we're getting Kai'Sa, but she is very popular. I love that we're getting an actual legit villain though and Fiddle is the perfect choice alongside maybe Nocturne. Yeah, Sona's looks like a Sona skin. Coulda told me it was Space Groove and I would've believed you. Spotted that we're also getting Star Guardian Quinn, Rell(!), Taliyah, Akali and Star Nemesis Morgana. That latter one makes a lot of sense imo.

Oh, it's just standard understaffing BS. Nothing to worry about, just like to be prompt on responses.

Are they going to be adding Kai'Sa in as part of the Void faction maybe? Because I really want that faction. Evelynn seems like a good guess and I'd assume she'd be regionless. I would hope for Nunu because I can see a fun deck built around him, especially if it utilizes the Yetis already in game. I wouldn't mind Ryze though, especially if he's regionless and he could add most any spell but was super restricted on what followers he could have. I doubt they'd add Nilah, as I don't think they've added any fresh champs into the game before.

I'm not gonna lie, I think Nilah's gonna be straight up broken with a heal support. I know I don't want to fight her. Okay, good, I'm not the only one that thought that then. She just looks... off. I think she just has a slightly more Valorant art style. Ngl, I don't like her look as a SG, but I get why they chose it. Good tie in to the event and SG Nilah getting her power from her familiar nicely parallels the base version. Thanks for the links btw.
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True true (not jailbreak graves tho) but memes aside i would definetely say he is among the better champs as far as skins go, and in general as a character overall, him and TF are a killer combo, maybe even the funniest one as of yet.

Yea yea even just changing turrets alone would be fine enough. But yea uh something like dominion but not exactly the same, as much as i liked the gamemode it did definetely have its problems.

Yeeea you do be right, but still at least for a bit of a meme, same as Paraguay cause yea, maybe even make it so Paraguay can make the South American Commune or whatever the formable nation would be, could be a funny achievement and a way to make SA a superpower. Oh you did that too huh? Granted i mostly used motorized with SPGs as i well, used SPGs almost everywhere i could but yea... Variety is fun so, whatever adds onto it, same as how scout planes are in the game but i really barely use them. (And most other HOI players i know never do but alas)

Not only are we getting her but by looks of it she is the legendary skin, and yea uh, for how long she has been in the game, she is getting far too many skins and generally everything really, but well i guess it is what it is now, at least her skin looks good ingame granted it is a legendary so thats a given (havent seen splash yet). And yes i really love that we are getting villains too, Fiddle works so damn well too cause i feel he makes a really good "hysterical" villain, the skin almost feeling as if Suprise Party Fiddle was a villain, Morgana is a good choice too. Yea uhhh, Sona skin is whatever and from what ive seen of the other ones, Rell seems good but i really dont like Quinn, i think her mask looks stupid as all hell (havent seen almost any Taliyah or Akali yet so no comments besides saying i really dont like the idea of it being Akali)

Ah i see, well good luck either way, hopefully things get easier soon!

Hmmmm, idk i dont think they will since they havent made Rek'sai a part of it, and i vaguely remember them saying they would only do 10 regions, which is what we have right now. Yea not sure who her units would be, maybe some of her followers since she does seem to have a cult of sorts? Out of those yea definetely Nunu or Ryze, Nunu cause i think his deck could be the most fun and Ryze cause i just really want to see him get some love, and well i also like Ryze quite a bit. I think only exception to the new champ thing is Viego but, aside from him yea no one that i can recall.

Absolutely agree, with all the healing and shielding in her kit along with W making her get damage reduction against magic damage and immunity to auto attacks i can see her being just someone who is easily beyond frustrating due to being relatively tanky while having the DPS of an adc, terrible design overall imo.Yea i dont like how she looks either but, dont mind it too much due to what you mentioned.

Either way for now, id say this SG batch is definetely carried by Fiddle, and then to a lower degree Rell and Morgana.
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Oh yeah, no, the relationship between Graves and TF is nearly perfect. Only relationship I like better is probably Braum and Ilaoi because she wants him and he is completely oblivious.

I'd even just take a PvE mode that had a very small cast of champions that would lead to a boss fight against the main antagonist. Then have one mode for each side and have whichever side won the most gets their side of the story advanced.

Welp, looks like they dropped the first part of the Swiss and it looks... interesting. But, yes, the more meme options the better imo, but as long as it doesn't get too crazy or disruptive to mulitplayer. I personally like having a vehicle focused army. Ends up making it smaller overall, but I think it's more fun, especially now that you can designate what model each type of vehicle uses. I hope Scout Planes are made more useful with this update. Right now they're pretty worthless.

Yeah, I was reading she's the captain of this new team, although it seems that Nilah is some kind of solo agent that's the strongest... Don't like that, but whatever. I do really like Fiddle in this role as something of an It like character that is trying to essentially create doubts in the guardians so he can consume their power. Super messed up and perfectly on brand! I would assume now that Morgana's going to be the one turning the fallen guardians into the corrupted ones, although I do hope they keep the connection with Dark Cosmic Jhin intact. I do have to say I like all of the splash arts they've revealed so far.

Idk why they wouldn't include the Void, as that feels super weird to me due to just how unique their faction is. Maybe if we get a true invasion from Bel we'll get a Voidborn sub type like Dragon, Spider or Elite. I'd find that an acceptable compromise. Oh if Tahm has followers, Evelynn definitely does. Maybe they can establish she creates husks of her victims once they've been drained. Then they can kind of represent how far and wide her liasons have reached. Regardless of what they do with Nunu, I think he'll be a lot of fun. Honestly, I think the Freljord has the most consistent baseline usable champs. Ryze really needs love in both games. I feel like they've never quite gotten him right. (Now I want a Nick Fury Ryze assembling a team to take on a World Rune powered Brand) I did watch the video and he said specifically heroes, so I do think that precludes Bel.

Her kit is just so overloaded. I'd say they should've geared her towards taking on stronger champs due to her lore, but I also don't want another Vayne/Quinn situation where they turn top into hell. I think her lore is semi-interesting and her splash has grown on me. I do think the SG splash looks kind of awkward, mainly because of how she's holding her weapon.

Yeah, I can't wait to see all the splashes.
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Yea that one is pretty good, tbf the entire Ruined King Crew got a lot better with the game, havent even played the game yet but just seeing the interactions on youtube was plenty.

Yea uhh now about that, seemingly, according to PBE, we wont be getting a SG PVE event, we will be getting ultimate spellbook... With the ultimates of SG champions added to it... yea... Honestly thats my 2nd least liked gamemode, so to say the least i am immensely disappointed.

Thanks for the link and yea it does look interesting, one thing i would've wished to see is a possibility to play as a volunteer focused nation, think it could just be an extremely fun playstyle for Switzerland and well could fit as an alternative between joining the war and being fully neutral. Ah yea here, nooot really, i like having a lot of medium tanks but still prefer having really strong infantry overall with a lot of support companies, artillery etc etc.

Yea dont like it either but, we will see i guess, for now though i think they are definetely trying to push Nilah a bit too hard as the "overpowered hero", could be a bit early to say but i kinda really hope she isnt more of a key player to fighting against the void than Lissandra or Ryze. Yeap yeap, Fiddle just fits that role amazingly and Morgana could be interesting too if she goes for that, about DS Jhin, personally i never liked that skin at all if im gonna be honest sooo i wouldnt be that hit by it, however id still prefer if things stay as is because i dont really like retcons/changes that much. From what ive seen for now uhh, yea all are fine but Sona's is kinda whatever, mostly cause the skin feels incredibly bland imo.

Yea at the very least, i guess at least that way, we could get voidlings from various parts of runeterra, majority being from Shurima and Freljord ofc so while not ideal, i guess its at least something nice? Oh yea no for sure for sure, plus iirc it was confirmed in Vayne's lore that she has a sort of a cult. Really like the entire husk idea and depending on how dark they want to take it, they could even add human prisoners she has left in a half-alive state purely so she can always have access to some pain when needed. All around tho i would love if either she or Fiddle get added, love our league demons and would absolutely adore making a deck with Tahm/Fiddle/Eve.
Yea especially because he didnt even make an appearance in the ruination which was, an easy spot to at least give him a cameo, i mean Ryze has literally been running around the world for centuries trying to stop it from getting destroyed, surely he would at least try stopping the Black mist but, alas. Holy yes, i really want that Ryze and "avengers" vs Super Brand.

I still dont really like her splash or anything of that sort but, at least now that we know more her lore is indeed better and id even say nice. But besides that she aint getting any praise at all from me : /
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Even though I do have some niggles with Ruined King's combat and some progression issues, it absolutely nailed the characterization of everyone involved! Did you see the trailer for the book?!? Actual images of human Kalista and Grael (pre-Threshening)!!

I was wondering what that Ultimate Spellbook thing was... It looks super lame, although it's kind of a neat idea.

Maybe that'll be something in one of the trees we see later? I assume we'll get a look at Ethiopia's tree first, though. One thing I will say is that Switzerland feels kind've inherently limited to me. They never had any true territorial ambitions, so they're gonna have to making some true stretches to make that work. It does look like it could be a fun espionage focused country, though, especially if they do something with volunteers like you suggested. I try to be as semi-historical as I can be with my army compositions, mainly focusing on LTs as the main vehicle until mid 40 at which point I start phasing them out for medium vehicles while only really using HTs for very specific units and missions. Honestly, the tank designer has been amazing, as I like to make essentially an early Stug unit I attach to my infantry divisions to give them some much needed breakthrough (it's a turretless light chassis with an artillery piece and some machine guns). Really makes me feel like I'm designing vehicles to fit my doctrine as well.

I would assume she doesn't have much to do with the Void event unless she gets into a scrap with Cho or Baron. Liss definitely needs to be super involved, though. Morgana honestly works very well as the overarching antagonist for the SGs, as I assume they're going to base her design off of that Queen from the first or second arc of Sailor Moon. Oh, yeah, no I'm not a fan of that Jhin skin, either, but the concept of a galaxy+ level serial killer is really cool. Especially if he's doing some universe hopping. I liked that he kind of connected the stellar universes together.

I'd say the voidlings need to be like 90% Shurima/Freljord with only a few being in other regions to represent their range. Oh, damn, I like the idea of her keeping prisoners just to harvest their pain. I am wondering how much she's going to draw from the Noxian cards that injure themselves to do things... I do think Fiddle could be a fun fearsome/vulnerable deck if they were to add him. I hope they wouldn't give him a bunch of silence cards, though. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense for Ryze to not be at least contributing to the fight, even if it was just him teleporting people out of harm's way. I mean, he got to do that in Arcane. I'm not sure who I'd pick for Ryze's team, but I've been reading Fire Force and I think how they do super infernals (called devils) could work well for Brand, as they become super dark shades of black and sprout horns. I feel like Brand would need a couple of allies, although preferably not Annie. I don't like those vibes.

I'm honestly just excited for more SG lore at the end of the day. That reminds me, I think I've got SG Lux done and I'm working on Titan Nautilus. Kinda iffy on him and I'd appreciate any feed back you have.
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Oh yes i absolutely did, really liked when they do stuff like that and ive ever heard some leaks of there possibly being images of human Hecarim! Only thing i dont quite like is that they changed Grael's appearance, since we already saw how he looked in the "league of legends book".

Uh its, imo its super lame, especially depending on what ult you rng but my biggest problem is that its just another "URF type" gamemode where something is changed to just make the game more fast and action oriented which i never liked.

I do wonder what they will do with Ethiopia, the only thing i can think off the top of my head is having some focuses that help win the war either through temporary buffs or by calling for internation help in order to get supplies, aside from that i imagine they will have an opportunity to core the Italian colonial lands they take, no idea beyond that though. Yea i mean there really isnt much one can do with Switzerland, even if they really go into "alt history" scenarios they are still a landlocked nation thats surrounded by 3 of the major nations and Austria who is almost always annexed in first 18 months or so. Hmmm i do like playing with Infantry focused armies but that is also cause my most played nation is no doubt the Soviets, i do change things up similarly to you especially on germanny, starting the war off with more motorized/mechanized divisions with light or medium tanks for support, and then adding HT's later on. And ye i really like it too, i think its definetely the best part of that DLC, although the new supply system does come close imo, really like it too.

Yea dont really want Lissandra to team up directly with anyone but she should definetely be someone who is there first to try and stop the void, maybe she can stop a large part of the invasion on freljord just not all of it? Oh really? Thats a suprise cause usually people rank DS Jhin as one of the best skins around and i just dooont see it myself. The concept of it is very good tho yes as you've said.

Yea i didnt even think about that but she should definetely have synergy with them. Does give me a bit of an idea how she could work, maybe every time a unit survives damage she gets +1 attack for the turn and also heals for 1 health (Only heal not gain cause yea), i would also make her evolve work a bit like Gnar's where for example, if she gets +5 attack she will transform for that turn only, gaining elusive and fearsome as an effect, i think it would do a good job at incorporating both her Lore and League gameplay in as she would be someone who mostly lies around waiting for the ideal time to attack, but when she does its a really devastating high damage attack thats hard to stop due to the effects, plus i think the temporary level-up mechanic is really fun and could work really good on her. Fiddle hmmmm, yea i mean fearsome and vulnerable could work really well, dont want silence tho i think silence is a pretty annoying mechanic, maybe as his level up i would add a kinda fun but possibly broken mechanic where, if he is on the board, the opponent cannot see any unit that is summoned rather only seeing fiddle effigies, the effect would disappear the first time said unit defends or attacks though but that would be a really good way to incorporate "fear" into his gameplay without just slapping "fearsome" onto everyone. Oh Fire Force, i got into that series lightly a couple months ago myself just kinda stopped after a bit, its pretty fun but yea uhh i think that could work really well. As for his allies, not Annie, but i also cant think of anyone that fits that well, maybe Syndra cause they are kinda similar as both were "hated" due to their magic but, eh. Besides her maybe only Sylas since he was at freljord at one point of time and he would also definetely be the type of person to take a deal from Brand just to get more power?

As far as Lux goes everything looks great! Nautilus on other hand seems a bit low maybe? Was more so expecting 20-25k tbf. I mean everything for now seems completely accurate yea just, dont know what else to add really, maybe space survivablity purely cause we can see Nasus seemingly do it but then again that could be a bit of a stretch? And maybe at best ressurection due to well, Maokai "rebuilding" the world and then the cycle endlessly repeating, however we dont really know if they die im just assuming they do cause, Nasus/Malphite destroy the planet in its entirety in the end seemingly sooo?

Btw i think il uh, leave battlecast for the last series, all the resistance members and creator viktor got yanked off the requests too soo, il probably just request my part of the worldbreakers and pulsefire/sg champs for now.
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I'm very eager to read the novel and to see an actual map of the Eastern continent! I just love maps. It'll be the weirdest to see Hec as a human on a horse instead of just a centaur person... Okay, I though Grael looked a little off, but it's been a minute since I saw him in RK.

I do want to say I think it sounds like a fun enough idea... but URF is already the wacky and zany mode I need. I legitimately loved Twisted Treeline and got to gold a couple of times with my friends in it. Give us game modes like that with interesting changes to the core mechanics and some gimmicks. And if they don't work out, well, they're on rotation and you can fiddle with em some more while they're out.

Yes, I'll assume Ethiopia's first goal will be to get League of Nations assistance, as they did try to do that irl unsuccessfully. Yeah, there's not many annexation goals I can see Ethipia even wanting outside of the colonized land on the Horn. Maybe expanding into Kenya? But then if they got assistance from Britain to fight Italy that route wouldn't make a lot of sense. I could see a Communist route where they become an agitator for African independence and help support rebellions in the colonies. I'll be eager to see what they do with Switzerland, maybe they could even found their own Alliance of Neutrality or something with some of the other minors that could evolve into their version of the EU? I mostly play Germany or one of the Blakan nations, so I tend to try to have as high quality equipment as possible for short wars/decisive strikes to take down important targets before I rest and regroup. Oh yes, I love the supply system and the rail guns! Makes me kind've hope they release a standalone expansion type thing for WW1, although I doubt that'd ever happen.

Yes, I would see Lissandra trying to protect her own and probably holding up most of the Freljordian invasion while Ashe and Sej have to begrudgingly set aside their differences to halt the rest. Honestly, I think Ashe and Sej's armies united would be quite the effective force with the Avarosans having such a solid infantry/archer corps to base it around while the Winter's Claw provides the light infantry and mobile units. Don't get me wrong, I do love the aesthetics of the Event Horizon skins, but for Jhin I just prefer his blood moon get up. The color palette is superb and I love the intricacy of his mask and gun.

I would say maybe to make it easier for programming her abilitiy could work as "When a unit other than myself survives damage, give me +1/+0 until the round ends. If a damaged unit dies, heal me for 1." Something along those lines so she does get a benefit for stuff dying if her pain causing goes too far. Then her level up could be "I've seen X Damage done." Other than that, I like her getting fearsome and elusive and maybe what makes her fall out of it is if she has done a certain amount of damage? To show she's sated for now? Idk. I actually do like that effigy idea. It'd take a bit to get it balanced right, but it would give him his own solid gameplay gimmick. Maybe he could have some kind of effect that lowered attack to show how much fear he causes instead of just fearsome (although they'll probably just give him fearful). I've been having fun with FF. Felt I needed to fill out the mostly empty universe too. Asides from that, yeah, Syndra could work and I like Silas for the muscle role. Maybe their outfits in this guise could reference Loki (super duper lightly in the horns), the Enchantress and the Executioner?

Okay, good, I thought the naughty lass seemed on the low end. I added Space Survivability, low Precog (he knows what's going to happen), Rad immunity, aura (the titans are supposed to literally radiate fear), resurrection and high deconstruction (I debated between this and low death manipulation). I think that got him into the right region. And yeah, I have no idea if they survive once their mission is complete or not (this is where the lore is super vague). However, if we're going off of the Mesoamerican tradition, I would assume they do come back at some point.

OMG, that is so stupid. Maybe they just need to see me ass that universe variant first? I mean, that's super dumb, but whatever. I wish this wouldn't happen. Maybe on my next round of requests I'll request a member of each universe we planned on so they can see it's one I've deemed worthy of being included?

*Edit* I would like to reassess my opinion on the Praetorians after messing around with a Lucian deck on LoR. He utterly cleans hordes of Praetorian Fiddles without much effort in his level up animation. This could either be because he's essentially bloodlusted and maxing out the power on his suit or the Praetorians are individually much weaker. I will say I still believe a single Praetorian should be enough to take out a city bar minimum, so maybe high t2? I'm just now really watching Necrit videos and I do find his insight useful. Gonna see if he has one on them that'll help settle my opinion.
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Yea i do love maps myself, having Riot actually reveal and make the interactable map for league was really great. Yea uhh he does look a bit off, feel they made him look too "villanous", because well Thresh was always just supposed to be an extremely normal looking guy that would draw basically no suspicions, ofc before the entire ruination ordeal.

Yea basically exactly what you said, dont see the democratic path doing more or less anythin after the war but the entire communist Afriacan independance idea could be cool, maybe for the 3rd option there could be a fascist path where we submit to italy while still keeping our indenpendance just as a puppet? From there on we can try intergrating their cores and looking to expand into rest of africa with eventually us breaking free? Yea Germany and Balkans are really fun, after Soviets and Japan they are probably my most played. The only part i dont like about the no-step back dlc is that, the game is a lot more laggy now cause, my PC really aint up to par anymore so even in just 1940 things do start getting a bit slow. Oh yea for sure uh, a ww1 starting date would be amazing buuut i kinda really doubt that, especially because there are already a lot of great mods for it, which yea uh, HOI4 has amazing mods all around.

Yea for sure, especially due to their very natural terrain advantage, overall Freljord might even have the best chances to defend themselves from a void attacks compared to any of the major nations (Not counting Shurima before its collapse), especially cause Lissandra is one of the rare beings alive to know what the void is like which could help a lot. Yea more or less, blood moon is my favourite skin for him too, and honestly a pretty good skinline overall imo.

Oh wow, yea you basically just, said what i had in mind but explained it far better than me, coupled with some units new units that do damage to themselves she could be a pretty unique deck to play and a nice combo with Vlad. Hmmm the lower attack idea could work but, Nasus already has that as his exact effect so it would probably be a bit of an overlap, assuming the, board-effigy idea cant be implemented, maybe just having him empower "fearsome" as an effect could work? What i mean by that, instead of the defending units needing 3 attack to block, they could make it so they need to have equal or higher attack than the unit thats attacking? (And if thats too strong i guess just, change it to 4 or 5 base, depending on how hard Fiddle would be to evolve). Yeeea it really is extremely barren to say the least, but hey good luck with that ofc. Ohhhh i really like, well partly cause i like anything Asgard related but also because i think it could fit them pretty well all around, very good idea.

Yea uh he looks just about where he should be imo, soooo well done! And yea it is vague which, i dont mind from a lore perspective that much but, does make things a bit harder here but still.

It is pretty annoying yes but yea please do that, should help i reckon. But oh well for now i will go request the, other Titans and the SG Syndra and Pulsefire Riven ONCE i figure out what to call them. (For now i just have "Veteran Guardian Syndra" and nothing for Riven really)

Hmm i see i see, i wasnt quite aware of that either, for now i guess that would push them out of the possibility of being even low tier 4 but, do tell me if Necrit has something interesting to say, im fine with either 3 or high 2 as is.
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Usually fantasy maps are super lack luster, but I generally like League's. Yeah, Grael's supposed to be that unassuming manipulator. Hard to be unassuming while he was all ghosty, but not so much anymore.

Something along the lines of Manchukuo for Japan sounds good for one part of that tree. Maybe another one could be if they pull off the win with little or no support and use that as a launching board for renewed Ethiopian nationalism to reclaim the whole horn. There are some good options available, but I wonder how much it's really going to affect gameplay. I've honestly never really liked the Japanese campaign, although I only really ever played the pre-rework version. I'd always just end up steam rolling the Chinese and not having much else to do or I'd get stuck in a quagmire. I will say performance in the later years has improved over the course of the game with them doing a good job of making sure the ai doesn't just flood the field with 80 trillion 2 brigade divisions. There are some really good mods out there, especially Kaiserreich, but WW1 would just benefit from having those modeled uniforms and vehicles and such. And honestly the whole vehicle designer works really well for that setting due to how experimental aircraft and tank development was and how short the turn around time for new models was.

I do like how LoR's cards are written as the language is very clear. I do think that Evelynn could actually work in quite a few decks and make decks that utilize smaller cantrip-style cards to ping enemy units. Oh, yeah, I had forgotten that was Susan's effect. I only ever really use him in Labs and I like never draw him even then. The boost to Fearsome is something I quite like on Fiddle. The simple boost to a power 4 requirment would be impactful enough without being oppressive imo. I'm about halway through the series and keeping detailed notes. Really appreciate the explanations it gives on how powers work. Honestly, Syndra's design wouldn't need to be that altered and I think she could look good in green. Sylas looks good in armor imo and maybe his gauntlets could be made to resemble axes. Or they could make each link in the chains look like axes/bladed.

So, I do have a theory about the second destructive cycle... I think that Karma, the Titans and Mao were all part of a singular repeating cycle with them all fulfilling their duties and then returning to slumber. I also think the Titans didn't all awaken at once and were instead each individually triggered by an eclipse until Nasus ended everything. Now with this new cycle, I think something went wrong due to outside intereference (maybe Pulsefire Ez did something that created a paradox) and because of that a mortal soul retained its memories of the last cycle. This mortal was Malzahar, obviously, and he's seeking to once and for all end everything. It would also explain why Sion is essentially unnatural and how Elise was empowered, which had never happened before. I'm not sure how exactly Malphite works into this Theory, but that's what I think is happening.

I would say for Syndra that simply Guardian Syndra would suffice, as that's what I planned on calling the rest (aside from Nilah and Kaisa). Riven... is difficult. Maybe Temporal Purifier or Temporal Zealot? I know I'm going to call Pulsefire Shen 'Paradox Warlord Shen' (because that's what Ez calls him and that's pretty rad).

I'll have to search on my lunch break. I do like his insights even if I don't always 100% agree with his conclusions. Like, I think Nilah's probably going to be around Pantheon's power level after listening to him. I was also listening to her voice lines and when she kills Kindred, Nilah comments there's a third presence. This could either be construed as the original "Gray Man" Fiddle refers to or maybe the true Death. Idk.
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Yea perhaps that could work for the non-aligned path, granted main problem would be, after retaking the horn what do they do next? Hmmm i see i see, which is fair and admitedly, playing in Asia as a whole can be pretty annoying due to the supply/attrition problems but idk, for some reason i do just like playing with Japan eventho most of my campaigns end up being the same. Oh yea nah like Ai is VASTLY better now, its just that the supply system has kinda made things a lot harder to run id assume, since its a whole new part of the game, still uh since i mostly play in Multiplayer for the last year or so where going at speed 5 isnt a possibility anyways due to wifi, it doesnt really affect me that much. Yea Kaiserreich is amazing definetely the best ive played. And yea for sure would, thankfully the WW1 mod does actually bring in new models, its a really good mod too or at least it was, havent played it in a while since, didnt get to updating it.

I assume Fiddle's spell could a way to implement his ult, maybe he deals 1 damage to everyone else, and for any unit killed he deals an addition 1 damage to everyone aside from himself. Although i think that would be kinda similar to Katarina's so perhaps the spell could be giving 2 enemies vulnerable and dealing 1 damage to each? A 4 or 5 cost spell for that could probably be fair i assume. Yea more or less just light outfit changes would really be neccessary, orbs could look pretty good green too. I think the blade idea for the chains is better and with that i do think he would look great, Sylas's model is pretty great for bulkier looking skins anyways so i feel he'd fit right in.

Ohhhhhhh, thats a really good sounding theory, dont know if they intended anything like that but id sure like if they did cause it does add up pretty well. And hmm Malphite uhh, considering he does fulfill a role similar to Nasus but is just stronger, it could be that he has arrived to reset the entirety of the cycle or well has awakened due to the regular cycle being tempered with? Dunno just spitballing.

Yea works, i think il just go for Temporal Zealot as that does sound pretty good. It is pretty rad tbf ye, kinda weird to think that Shen mostly has evil skins though.

Watched over both the interactions and the Necrit video again just to make sure. As far as the 3rd presence, id say it could either be "Gray Man" or more likely it could be the Mask Mother as she is likely the being who created Kindred. ABout Nilah's power uhh, i mean she should be definetely tier 3 at least due to well apparently beating demi-gods, ancient dragons, demons and who knows what else, i will say though her being around Panths level does strike me as bit wrong purely cause, considering most of her power comes from the Demon of Joy it wouldnt make sense for her to be so much stronger than other demons we already have as they are treated as some of the strongest/most imporant ones. I mean i can see it, it just rubs me the wrong way if that makes sense?

Edit: Soooo, saw the Splash Arts for other guardians (Kai'sa, Ekko and Taliyah) and honestly, i dont really like any of them, on other news, Senna, Orianna and Seraphine are confirmed to be the Wild Rift's Star Guardians.
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I would say a non-aligned Ethiopia's (probably Haile Selassie) goal would be to establish either friendly relations with France and Britain so as to secure their position (likely what would've happened if they won the war). The other possibility, assuming this is an expansionist non-aligned Ethiopia would be to establish friendly nations around itself, almost like an African version of Mitteleuropa. I would also assume getting control of the Suez would be a major goal as that would be a huge boon economically. Maybe I just need to try Japan out again some time when I'm free. Probably what doesn't help are all of the trains running around the map. Perhaps they need more filters for turning off aesthetic elements? I didn't even know there was a WW1 mod... I'm gonna have to check this out!

I would say a 5 cost that dealt 1 to every unit and gave them vulnerable would be fair enough. And if that's somehow too weak, maybe the vulnerable could be traded out with can't block until the end of the turn, although that might be way too strong. Yeah, there doesn't have to be anything too crazy changed. Maybe there's some new patterns on their clothes and the like or Syndra's headcrest is changed slightly. Now I'm thinking too to make this a whole team to be fair, although we've got two mages. Hrmm.

Oh yes, maybe like Malphite is something of a fail safe for the system to completely reset should things go awry. Maybe that's what triggers Worldweaver ASol to arrive and remake his creation. And let's be real, a Quetzalcoatl skin for ASol would be so freaking epic.

Cool, happy you liked it! Eh, Shen really only has 3 evil skins and then 2 neutral ones and one good one. Which is kind've interesting seeing as all of Zed's skins are villainous. Oh, I just found this out while I was looking for info on Raum, but apparently Tyrant Swain is if Raum took over? I really like that kind of stuff, it's neat!

Hmmmm, I hadn't considered the Mask Mother... This is where I really wish we'd get some clarity. I feel I need to clarify that I just meant she's probably high tier 3 or low tier 4, more around Diana and Leona. Pantheon was a poor choice on my behalf and I 1000% understand your reasoning. I will say having read up on the 10 Kings and looking more deeply into the Demon hierarchy, I'd probably say the primordial demons are mid tier 4 at their peak? Ashlesh is undoubtedly weakened, though, due to being imprisoned for so long and everything probably having fallen to low 4/high 3. I think where we have the other non-primordial Demons right now is good, though. I'd probably say Noc could get moved up a tier, but he's so new and got beat by Lux sooooooooo. Idk if what I'm saying makes sense.

I honestly kinda liked Kaisa's, although I can see why one wouldn't like it. Ekko's is pretty meh and... dear god... What have they done to poor Taliyah??? It looks like she's constipated and trying to keep someone from barging into the restroom stall she's in. Horrific.
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I think the expansionist idea could work really well ESPECIALLY, if Ethiopia could have a special mechanic that could cause rebelions in african colonial states by using the entire spy thingy with new missions, oh and ofc plenty of focuses and decisions, and perhaps if the rebel state survives for long enough it will white peace UK and became a satellite, puppet or direct territory of Ethiopia depending on how much impact we had in helping them? Could be a bit hard to add but would definetely provide a unique playstyle. yea uhh, i could turn everything off but honestly, i keep the most important settings on cause with everything turned off, well... its not a very good thing to look at lets just say that. But yes iirc its called "The Great War mod", at least in the past it was very very good so would reccomend checking it out if you get some time.

Love the "can't block" idea from the lore aspect but, yeeeeea i think in game it would be a bit much, maybe it could just instead give fearsome to all of Fiddle's allies on the board for a turn? (And maybe any allies that already have fearsome would get the 4 attack empowered version Fiddle can give?). Yea maybe change the horns on her helmet and maybe also add a bit of a floating green fire between said horns, as anyone from skinline should all have something fire related in their outfits/themselves. Hmmm well that is true, but i would still like to keep both Sylas and Syndra however as i do think they fit quite well, no other mages should be added at all tho to compensate.

Holy yessir it would be, a giant green serpant-like ASol thats also got a mesoamerican looking crown? Might be one of the rare skins i couldn't resist but to buy, especially because looks aside if anyone rocks the role of the supreme god in a skinline then its Asol.

Oh really? Had no idea, i know back in the past it was supposed to just be a, much more evil version of Swain, but thats all the way before his rework when Raum didnt even exist. Really like that tho.

Yea i think she should be definetely in that area if not the strongest tier 3 for now, and well yea uhhh maybe when we get her story, even tier 4 i just think it would be a bit odd for now but yeee. Hmmmmm, id say at their peak, they probably are somewhere in tier 4 yea. And yea i do agree i think where we got the other non-primordial demons is rather perfect. About Noc though, i dont think he should get a full tier up for well reasons you mentioned and i do also believe he is definetely the weakest of the current champion demons, but maybe he could get a bit of a bump up into tier 2, perhaps reaching 1k-1.2k or so?

Kai'sa has grown on me a bit since the first time ive seen it, i still think its just okay, before i was "a bit too harsh" due to being a bit let down and all that. But yea uh Taliyah DEFINETELY got the short end of the stick, i think its easily her worst skin for now.
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Just having a monarchal/non-aligned anti-colonial faction would be really cool, especially as they could conceivably go about it in so many different ways. I do like the rebel state idea, maybe their victory condition would just be wresting control of the capital of their region. I mean, especially if the UK/France are at war they're super unlikely to have the will to move forces to defend that area. I think N-A Ethiopia would only really seek to directly annex the territories in the horn, but I like the idea of the status of the territory after being determined by your involvement. Idk how exactly that would be calculated, but it's still a good idea. I checked the mod out and it's def going in my downloads tray.

Yeah, it might be a bit strong unless it only affects one enemy. Either version of the fearsome could work for the ult. Ooo, I like the concept for Enchantress Syndra... Assuming we have jungle Loki Brand, Syndra mid and Executioner Sylas top, we need a adc and a supp. My first instinct for ADC is Varus, but he's kind've over done. Maybe Jhin? Those two are like the only two villainous adcs I could really think of.

Oh yeah and it has to look supremely glorious AF. The Red/Green/Blue color palate would look great on him especially if he has just so much gold accenting. If they want an opposite character to him, a Tezcatlipoca inspired Brand could be really cool too.

Yup, that's what the description on the skin reads now... I really need to find all of the examples of them doing that. So far I know there's Tyrant Swain and Nightmare Tryndamere. And the Thousand Pierced Bear skin for Voli is supposed to be how some tribes depict him.

Yeah, no, I 100% see where you're coming from. I do think tier 3 is probably the safest spot, but we'll see when she drops. I really wish they'd get around to releasing more about Bel'Veth tbh. I'll give Noc another pass when I finish up with the batch I'm working on atm. He's just in such a weird place on the power scale.

I think it might just be the kind've odd angle she's at. So, I'll give them credit on Ekko's prestige version having a different splash, but neither are that great. Honestly, I think Taliyah's skins have all been pretty sub-par... But now I want Ta-Bee-yah and her skating around on a honeycomb and throwing globs of honey around.
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Yea yea capital of the region works too, probably more so tbf. Hmmm, yea perhaps its better for those outside of the horn to not be annexed rather, just their level of being a subject changes (from Integrated Puppet to Satellite). Oh or maybe the actual highest one can be just a collaboration goverment since technically, that is better than an integrated puppet.

After thinking for a bit i do think Aatrox would be an absolutely amazing Surtur since well, his model and everything would work perfectly for it, only problem would be that it would be 2 toplaners so he probably cant work, regardless had to mention it tho cause god damn would he fit the style. Still for support id say Renata could make a pretty good Hela just not sure what her robot thingy would be, either way if not her then id put Zyra into her spot who could still work good imo. (Originally thought Morgana but imo her wings are a bit too important to not keep, and well giving Hela wings wouldnt be too "accurate" i guess). Got absolutely no ideas for adc myself either. Still the Executioner Sylas top, Loki Brand JG, Enchantress Syndra mid and Hela Renata/Zyra support could all work pretty damn good imo.

If riot does ever go back into Worldbreaker (Which i very much hope they do) i would take those two in a heartbeat.

Yea yea, Thousand Pierced Bear was originally also how he was supposed to look all around after his rework but majority of the people (me included) didnt like the change so it was scrapped into just a skin of that sort. Still very very good tho.

Yeeeeeeeea they kinda really havent released anything new for Bel'veth at all ever since she dropped, i really hope they arent waiting till the next void LoR expansion to start the void event cause, that would mean at least 2-3 more months of waiting at the absolute lowest, which is uhh, a bit much, any Bel'veth hype we do have will be kinda long gone by then i feel. Sure sure sounds good, feel free to hit me up when you are done with him if you want to.

Yea after getting used to it, i once again do believe its better than before, still far from a fan but i do think its the best splash (aside from Fiddle) yet. Yea that was a very nice suprise, even if as you mentioned neither are that great. I like Taliyah's pool party skin purely cause she now has a surfboard in her passive. Ohhh, and her ult could either be her making a lot of nests or maybe just stacking a lot of fat bee's next to each other if they want to make it adorable.
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Sooooo, they dropped the first teaser for the Ethiopian tree and I'm kinda meh on it? Like I feel like their starting factory allotment is a little too punishing. I do like that if you go into exile you get a different tree based on your host nation. That's such a cool idea. That being said, the whole Jamaican lordship focus is a little bit too memey and should have been a secret event or something. It does look like we're getting the anti-colonialist movement as an option, although the African Union name is kind've lame and lacks any kind of flavor.

Oh yeah, he'd make a great Surtur... Honestly this whole idea is too fun and I really don't understand how they didn't do a whole "Super" line of skins with the likes of Super Teemo. That being said, I'd probably lean more towards Zyra as her plants could be zombies she raises up. I think maybe a Malekith Varus could work pretty well, ngl. I also now want Captain Freljord Braum and Thunderer Pantheon.

Honestly having them be the final entires for the skin line would be so awesome. Like their battle could even legit end that universe and I would be 100% happy with that outcome.

I do like how Voli has always looked with the white fur, although I do like that skin. I hope they do realize that we in the player base usually prefer the VGUs to be refinements of the idea we're used to and not complete reinventions. I really don't want hex Skarner...

I'm honestly surprised they didn't utilize the momentum from the hype of her release because I really want more Void stuff... I guess I can wait for a LoR event, but I'd prefer it happen sooner... but then again I do want Star Guardian content. I'll let you know when I get to him. The champion level Digimon aren't too hard to do tbh.

Okay, true enough, the Pool Party skins are always fun. Yeeeeessssssss, so many fat lil bees! I want to see all of them being super happy and buzzy! Urban Taliyah could be fun too. She could be ridding around on concrete and such.
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Sooo after reading the entire thing... yeeea the factory "problems" along with the army debuffs could make surviving quite a bit hard, but bigger problem is that it might not feel that rewarding to do it considering a lot of the focuses will have to go onto fixing those issues and that smells a bit too similar to Turkey who imo has, a really really bad focus tree and is overall really not fun to play (Outside of communist volunteer spam playstyle every once in half a year or whatnot). And yea i love the host idea, wonder if there will be even more options than USA/Germany/Japan. And yea the name is kinda as basic as it goes but at least we managed to guess one path which is pretty cool.

Yea plus Varus doesnt have, too many skins, at least not recent ones outside of HN. But yea no both the Pantheon and Braum skins would be amazing, would definetely combo in "Hulk" Gnar cause, i mean his entire ordeal is getting angry and transforming, could be just a small change like giving Gnar some extra clothes in his mini form and his mega form can just be him being more green and with the semi-torn jeans.

If anything id like that to be the ending of the Worldbreaker skinline because well, not may skinlines have endings, and they could also make it a pretty good reference for a Pulsefire Ez story where he mentions going into a universe that was completely destroyed.

Yea nah nah same, i think the skin is very good too just... i dont want it being base Voli's design because it would feel a bit too different from Ornn, Anivia and what he used to be pre-rework. And yea uhhh, pretty sure not many would like if Skarner got completely blasted out of existance, which i am still quite worried about.

I mean yea same of course cause i really dont mind waiting but, ugh i just dont want another Sentinels of Light situation where it was supposed to be a year-long event only for it to be, done and dusted in 2 months in a very haphhazard manner. Very worried about the SG content too because, i am really hoping the PVE event comes with the second batch of SG skins because seemingly it is not coming with the first batch. Cool cool, and yea no hurry, i still gotta deal with Fiddle which, i kinda fully forgot until all the Nilah/Demon discussion got mentioned.

Well, almost always : /, kinda really dont thinkt he new "Ocean Song" skins are that good tbf, they kinda lack the "fun" aspect of where, Taliyah has a surfboard, Heimer is secretly ripped af or Draven having inflatable armbands for a pool but alas thats just me being a bit disappointed by them... The Urban idea could also maybe work as a Corporate skin for her where she is an up and coming but still fairly clumsy competitor against Mundo, she could even surf on a suitcase that keeps dropping small ammount of money behind it maybe.
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Its about that time yet again.

Hmmm, yea overall Warwick, Singed, and maybe Caitlyn but im really not sure, i guess overall Zaun and Piltover kinda really dont have that many possible good champs for the void event but eh...

Kinda yes, i really think she should be ranged with a playstyle similar but different to Malzahar, if she turned Melee in her ult form and just got her current kit there id be fine with it but, all of it just being her slapping 15 times a second is just, veeeery disappointing i guess.

Yea perhaps Tibbers can randomly attack 2 targets for 1 damage, a really really minor and kinda shit effect but a nod nonetheless.

For sure for sure, i do most definetely want the void to stay a threat after this void event. Lol, yea i mean his passive does already look pretty great as far as that DBZ look goes but, taking it even further would be nice

Absolutely agree, especially if you look at videos of where she is stacked to 90 attack speed, which ofc will never happen in a normal game but her just having even 4.0 attack speed which is pretty reasonable is just, plainly disgusting really, with some on-hit items she will just tear through anything and i will be honest, i really dislike autoattacks being extremely strong cause in general you cant really do much against them besides kill the the person first, which is fine but she gets tankier in her ult and has an ability that gives her damage reduction so, that dont work that well, especially not combined with the long range stun and "4" dashes. I am a bit let down too BUT, i will say, Battle Boss Bel'veth does look really good in game, imo the model is very very nice, but yea still a bit let down.

Yea works works, hopefully all of them get accepted very soon, especially cause i should be having more time myself very soon coincidentally enough
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Yeah, I think unfortunately Zaun and Piltover are just really really separate from the rest of Valoran's nations. I like the variety they bring, but they haven't done too great of a job having a diverse array of champs from Piltover at least.

Yeah, the ranged and more regal style in her normal form would work well as she is an Empress while in her true void form she's just a vicious beast that rips her opponents apart.

So, I've been playing around with Annie in AI matches and I 've enjoyed the play style a lot. The cards they added to support her are really fun and synergetic as well without making you absolutely devote yourself to a burn strategy. Lots of fun. I'm still thinking about who to pair her with, as I don't have Swain.

I mean, they could always make it to where there is a part of Valoran that is now permanently partially in the Void so that we can have that as an avenue as well. Yeah, that shield being more of a raging fire would be super cool. I love Malz and cannot wait to see if they finally unleash him upon Valoran.

Oh yeah, even that 4.0 with enough on hit effects is just gonna rip entire teams apart quite quickly. Yeah, no, I don't see how she's not going to be a huge problem. I feel like they really rushed her kit out and just overloaded it with ridiculous crap. And I agree overall of AA's being kind of lame to play around, as is known from my opinion on Udyr, and I really wish they hadn't gone that direction with her. I only briefly watched the [email protected] video and didn't like it, maybe I'll try watching again. Now that I'm thinking about her being Battlecast, wouldn't she be something of an infiltration unit? Like maybe she sets a traps and pretends to need help and draws resistance members in before jumping on them.

I'll see about reaching out to the heralds tomorrow, as I feel we've waited long enough...
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Now that you mention it yeea kinda true, perhaps an actual villain from Piltover would be whats needed, i mean i guess Viktor is technically one but, he is more zaunite nowadays, really not sure who they could even add as a piltover centric villain tbf, maybe a rather corrupt councilor but then again considering Renata was just recently released and she isnt too far from that idea dont think it would work.

Good to hear good to hear cause aside from Bard, she is likely the champ id most likely use out of this expasion, havent got to test any of them thought cause using any time i have to play regular League, considering the biggest patch in 2 years dropped just a few days ago, made everyone more durable so oneshots are less rare, i quite enjoy the patch for now.

Mhm perhaps a part of Freljord where the watchers are could be more or less completely "void settled", maybe make it so it cant spread only cause the demigods made a pact to stop it from ever spreading or something similar. Naturally naturally, both gameplay and lore are great for Malz, and ye his gameplay is really stupid and easy but that is the exact fun part.

From what ive seen myself yea uhh, i do think she will be really problematic, she will eventually be "balanced" but, more so in a way where particular comps and champs cant deal with her at all, while other types of champs just destroy her, something like Kassadin really but a bit less direct. Mhm maybe she can emulate a fairly normal human appearance to drag out resistance members after which she swarms them with a bunch of mini battlcast robots, man that would've been cool to see. (Especially if someone made a mod to make the battlecast voidlings look like very small versions of battlecast chogath/kog)

Yea sure thing, and thanks a lot ofc, hopefully all goes wlel.
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The chancellor ideas not bad, but maybe it could be their proxy they funded? Maybe they could go somewhere along the lines of a hextech powered defender that goes rogue/vigilante after they find that the peacekeeper's methods are too inefficient or something? Gameplay wise maybe they'd be some kind of counter assassin that's very good at taking out vulnerable targets but suffers against bulky enemies and teams?

I've only briefly messed with Bard, but he's fun enough and I like the chimes. I think Annie's gonna be a solid deck with a lot of variance, but I don't think she's anywhere close to broken. Oh, I don't blame you, it looks awesome. I'm going to try to get on and see if my ping can stay stable long enough to finish a match.

Yes, like a containment zone that the Demis have to work together to make. That way too it could be breached if the story needed it to, like with idk Thresh or someone wanting to start some chaos. I've always enjoyed Malz. Always been one to enjoy minionmancers and his kit is varied enough that he never feels completely helpless.

You're probably right, although that's my least favorite way to balance (as you know my philosophy there). Omg, what if her BC minions were just randomized of the other BC minions?!? I'm probably dreaming there, but lil floating Kogs that do the charge sound when they attack would be too cute.

And reaching out now.

*Edit* I updated Annie's profile pic (I hope you don't mind) to her LoR art. I can't decide which Jhin art I prefer, though...
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Okay now thats an actually good idea, especially cause we are really lacking that type of person for the regions. Hmmmm, yea a bruiser type champion thats really strong at 1v1's and against assassins, but kinda is bad when enemy has a lot of CC can see it work, something similar but also different to Vi as he could be more focused on disruption compared to her.

Well thats good, i dont particulary like playing stuff thats clearly broken because i know its gonna get changed fairly soon which i dont particularly enjoy, i just kinda want to play a couple things and become good with them if that makes sense.

Mhm, it would serve well to advance the lore of the demis and freljord itself, especially if Winter's claw or whonots territory was the one that got corrupted, that way everyone needs to sorta adjust and whatnot. Mhm worst case scenario Malzahar will be the best 2.5 second long stunbot he can be! (I adore his ult purely cause its just, so uh, "stupid", its fine to supress someone for 2.5 and slowly watch them die as neither of you can move)

Likewise ofc likewise, i know it cant be avoided completely but we can try to work around it in most cases which, doesnt seem to be case this time around : /. Yes yes, especially since her voildings are already different depending on what type of minion she corrupted, BC Kog could be the ranged minions, Cho can be cannon minions and Skarner could be the regular melee ones, and yes absolutely, seeing all of them work together would be something truly amazing too. If we ever did have that idea perhaps Bel'veth could've also been Viktor's first invention (aside from himself) and she could be somewhat of a living forge to massproduce the individuals Viktor transform, which could also work with the infiltration idea i suppose.

Oh, yea no i dont mind not at all, it looks a lot better than the cinematic art after all so hey thanks. About Jhin, im kinda torn between his splash and the evolved art in LoR, but not sure if that one would be too zoomed out tho.
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Maybe to make them more of a burst champion, they could have energy for their abilities and once depleted they have to fully recharge. And just enough of it that they can get through two combos before being depleted. But, yes, I'm seeing like some soft/hard cc with a silence and a stun and then something to close the distance. It'd just be cool to see a chaotic type personality running around Piltover that's very much an anti-hero/anti-villain.

Oh, no, that makes sense. Annie and Bard seem solid without being oppressive so far. Annie is very much a good at every stage of the game, but not necessarily great at any stage either. And Bard gets you to play almost cautiously? Just making the most out of every play because you really want to build up something in your hand for a big OTK. Haven't tried Illaoi or Jhin yet.

Oh, yeah, like maybe a prime chunk of their territory is the unfortunate ground zero and over the course of the war they have to become more sedentary in their life style. Ashe would clearly be in the dominant position then, which might open Sej up to some... assistance from Lissandra. Oh, I love Malz's ult. I like to think he and the target are having a very heartfelt conversation about their lord and savior Bel'Veth.

Yeah, outside of a complete overhaul, Bel's just way too overtuned and there's not many options to fix it. Oh my gosh, that'd just be too stinkin cute and I want it now! I think Skarner is supposed to be the "first" battlecast he made, but lore can always be changed. Now that you're mentioning the mass production thing, maybe she is his foundry we had discussed a while back and she has his helmet as her facade now? Although I still love her as an infiltrator as well...

So, here's what I was able to do with the evolved art:

How does that look to you?
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Could work yea, i would also add that, the energy doesnt regenerate normally, rather it would take lets say, 8 or 10 seconds maybe for it to start regening as long as the person hasnt used any abilities in those 8-10. And yea something akin to Jinx (not from arcane) but far more justice obssessed in its own special way.

Whelp i do really like slow decks so Bard will definetely be up my alley, annie likely noooot for some time cause ive got too many decks i want to try out first, started slowly getting back into the game to collect them wildcards cause havent been playing very actively for a little while. Seen any Jhin or Illaoi decks from opponents?

Eyyyy, plenty of new paths would open from Freljord that way, and oh what if some of the side-demigods also got corrupted by the void? That would also make them relevant at least for a little while and since seemingly Riot really does want to mostly focus on Ornn-Voli-Anivia it could be a good way to keep those 3 as a hard focus while still giving the other ones something, plus it would be cool to see a giant corrupted boar for example. Lol, yea he sits you both down for a small word about how great it is to be the prophet of Bel'veth, all while 10 of his voidlings are making sure you stay alert.

You can say that again, saw more of her pbe gameplay and god damn, the damage is absurd even when she goes with bruiser/tanky builds, the damage reduction she has also seems pretty high as she just outheals whatever starts damaging her pretty pretty quickly, definetely not looking very forward to having her in the game. Ohhhh, well first yes i love the infiltrator idea but the Viktor helmet idea? I mean just a giant Battlecast flying-base-foundry sounds so cool, her ult could be her transforming to the combat state of the foundry, which is really cool.

Looks pretty damn good tbf and great job, only thing i would maybe try playing around with is cutting off a slight more of the left side as Jhin isnt quite centered.
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Yes, that's what I was thinking, like a 5-10 second cooldown window before it refills. Enough that they can't just keep trading blows and spamming. Maybe their passive could give them a movement speed buff while recharging or something? Just enough so that they can get out of situations and so they're not completely helpless if things go south. And yes, I was thinking of someone personality wise like Azrael from Batman, but a little bit more on the fun side like Jinx.

Oh yeah, I like the long form/build up decks a lot myself. I've yet to see any Jhin, but I saw two Illaois. The first one's deck was def just an experiment and they scooped once Tybaulk came out in my Annie deck. The second was better put together, but was up against my Garen Elite deck and they just couldn't get a good foot hold. Makes me want to experiment with her, though.

Oh, that could be an interesting twist (and make some good Freljord/Void cards for LoR) and would really help push the siblings to act. I do wish we'd at least get to see the Boar and the Turtle that Udyr pulls power from, especially if the latter is more like a Glyptodon or something. I like to think the little voidlings are just really tryin to do their best so they can get a gold star at the end of the day from Void Mommy and make their prophet proud.

Oh lord, yup yup yup yup, she's gonna be a problem. Gonna have to do some hard nerfs on her to make it to where she's even allowed to see play. The infiltrator idea will have to go to another champ, cause, yeah, giant flying mecha fortress spewing out drones to wash the unevolved off the face of the planet is a story development we need for Battlecast. And I know Malphite has a ton of skins already, but either a resistance Malph/Galio that have been repaired/resurrected by Jayce to fight this fortress would be so freaking cool.

I moved it over a tad to get it more centered and put it up as his pic. Let me know if you think it looks centered or needs a little more adjustment!
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Hmmm, id say perhaps a bit of a decaying movespeed but only if they fully lose energy the normal way, dont think it would be fun if they had it the entire time they werent on 100% energy, perhaps that could be a way to do it because they could still control it by blowing all their abilites out if they need to escape, but they also wouldnt be permanently zooming. Oh, yea that sounds like could work, plus we dont have anyone thats similar to that rn at least.

Hmm i see i see, so for now havent seen much success from any of them? Or well Jhin or Illaoi? I guess maybe people just need a bit more time to figure out the optimal combo but hey i finally played a game of LoR myself today, i do miss the thing alright, getting them wildcards is gonna be a bit of a pain tho cause my decks rn suck.

Well ye same, at least we should know how all of the ones Udyr draws power from look but well, maybe with his rework, whenever thats coming considering Bel'veth is coming before it... Lol, yes same, and that sounds only better because just today i noticed the voidlings do the mc hammer dance together with Malzahar if they arent attacking anyone, played the game for so long and havent noticed till today but it was an absolutely amazing detail to see, im sure they just want to make the Prophet and Void Mommy proud.

Which is a shame because, besides gameplay i liked absolutely everything and now, i am not even excited about her release, if anything i am kinda "dreading" it, because i most definetely feel she will just be another champion that makes you wish there were more bans in the game. Yooooo, i really dig the malph/galio ideas, id say Galio maybe a bit more because i can really imagine a dope scene where Galio and Fortress Bel'veth are fighting each other in the air. About the infiltrator i guess maybe Warwick or Fizz could work? (Or if we go full meme route id suggest Teemo and Maokai cause tiny sapling spies)

Looks great now, definetely an upgrade for Jhin, great job!
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Oh, yeah, decaying for sure. Just a quick move speed buff so they can get out in a jam, but by no means do they get it for very long. Just something to simulate the suit or whatever being momentarily unburdened. I'm imagining a very serious character that is absolutely blinded by his pursuit of justice and everyone makes fun of him for being an edgelord.

So, I played a Jhin deck today and I did lose, but my Pantheon/Soraka deck just bricked hard. In my experimenting with Jhin, he feels a little clunky? But that could just be my card pool impacting that. I will say as long as you keep on the event track, you'll get a fair number of the new cards. I also recommend playing in the labs, as you can get a lot of cards from the XP you get from it.

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised Bel dropped first. I was really expecting Udyr's rework to play into Bel'Veth's awakening. I really wish they would do what Magic does and hire writers to write stories to flesh out the world like once a week or something. Oh, yes, I knew about that! They're just so freaking cute when they dance!

Yeah, I'm definitely more excited about the lore aspect than her actually being playable, but we'll have to see. I can't see her not being banned in Ranked, ngl. Okay, flying giant mecha vs flying giant reborn golem sounds way too awesome to not happen. Oooooooooooo, I love love love the idea of little mecha saplings! And a tree would be an excellent infiltration unit. I'd love BC Teemo, but he's just got so many skins.

Cool, happy I got it centered. It does look better.
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Yeap yeap that would work AND, honestly maybe id even try implementing back Garen's "Villain" mechanic into his kit somehow, of course not in Garen's way cause it was kind of nasty to get ulted for 1.5k true damage. More so perhaps he should be able to pick someone in specific to hunt similarly to Kindred, but instead of getting permanent stacks maybe he would get extra ability effects if the two of them are alone? Idk i just think the picking mechanic is neat and something along the lines could also fit with the personality very well. Oh and of course the person would know when they are picked.

Oh really? Well i will be sure to check them out, dont think i will use any of them (besides Bard) too much but its always nice to get more cards plus imo the events are pretty fun in LoR so props to riot for that, they did a pretty good job cause back in the days game did feel like it lacked something as the only gamemode was the well, regular 1v1 (and challenges but they suck ass so im not counting them)

I guess they will focus more so on the demigods and Udyr's earlier life in his rework than the Void, especially so cause Bel'veth should come out in Shurima considering Kai'sa was the first one she got her hands on. That would be really amazing BUUUUUT, i can never really see it happening, definetely would love if there was more lore though cause thats probably the main "problem" with league lore, due to there being so many champions to focus on the overall lore doesnt really progress that much (although that has improved vastly with the sentinels of light as an event, even if it wasnt that much for the better). Mhm, as someone who has started playing a lot of Malzahar again i am obligated to summon them before recalling just so i can see them dance.

Neither can i but Yone does somehow get through champ select so, she will too... Yep exactly, the splash art for them would be amazing, generally i dont really like "shared splash arts" too much but i think in this scenario it could work really well if its just the same fight scene from their perspectives sorta deal. Ye maybe instead of a "Tree" he is more so created out of a bunch of wires and whatnot, his W could be explained as him just assimilating into nearby tech, could work really well i think.
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Maybe for that mechanic they'd get some kind of damage boost against them? Or maybe something that would give them an indicator as to where they are on the map? And just something semi-vague, like they're in top lane or enemy blue side jungle. That way it's still useful info, but not anything too specific (maybe they have a tracking device?). I do like the extra ability effects, but maybe it could apply when the enemy is alone or only in proximity to one other team member, because otherwise I can see it getting cheesed to be pretty ineffective. And yeah, the person needs to know they've been selected. Could work it into the character's MO that they like to announce who they've targeted so it both displays their audacity, confidence and skill.

Yeah, I've picked up quite a few of the cards and I think even the free track is pretty good at getting you stuff. I am on the paid one (I had leftover from buying the Worldbreaker skins) so I am getting more. Yeah, real old LoR was kid of lack luster, but I really like the Labs and the vsAI for experimenting with decks, as the AI is usually pretty competent.

Oh, yes, for sure, I would expect them to focus on Udyr's early life and return to the fold. I more meant that his reintroduction would be some kind of trigger point that would activate the Freljord side of things. But, yes, for sure definitely starting in Shurima. Even if they weren't wanting to advance the lore, there's still stories they can tell that would help flesh characters out and especially side characters. Like, maybe we could see Garen and JIV out on a campaign of some sort or we could see one of Ezreal's expeditions. Just little things like that that can give us lore and some character interaction. My fried would spawn a ton of the Voidlings on URF just so he could have a little dance party outside the range of the enemy turrets when he recalled. Bard has a similar thing too with his meeps when he recalls or dances.

Oh, true, there's always someone that thinks they can beat the newest OP champ or the team straight up forgets. Yeah, usually shard splashes aren't my jam, but that one would just be so freaking epic. If they did an event for it, there could be a splash for the log in page that shows them coming to blows. Oh, I like that idea, like the wifi towers and such that are blended in to look like trees mixed with that wire Ultra Beast from Pokemon. And yes, that would be so tight for the W. I like the way you think.

Summoner's Rift is on the database now.
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Rather than just flat damage, i think it would maybe be more interesting if their energy costs were lower and abilities also had lowered cooldown, not by a lot but by a bit as most of the power should be on the energy costs imo. Oh and other really big thing about it, the effect should not be constant like Kindred mark but rather it should have a minute cooldown and then it could last 30 seconds or so, cause if its permanent the champion could be very annoying as a top/mid laner. Yea yea nah of course only when both of them are isolated, or at the very least the "Villain" is isolated both from their own teamates and turrets. Mhm just a very overconfident person in their own justice goals, announcing would work very well with that.

Ah i see i see, and yea i actually just started playing around with them earlier today, im getting good ammount, managed to even luck out and get an Azir from my golden shurima box so that makes my Azir/Irelia token deck get sped up quite a lot. True true, suprisingly competent for AI cause usually in card games from my experience, its more or less almost always an easy win unless the deck you are using is actually just ass.

Really really agree, new short stories like that would be beyond welcome especially for champions that arent too connected to uh, general lore of their factions, examples being someone like Gnar, Jhin or Rammus, since for most part none of them are connected to main storylines of their regions. Well your friend most definetely knew how to use URF to its fullest potential! And ye i knew about Bard cause, well, dancing with Bard is around half the stuff i do aside from collecting chimes across the map when i play him.

The thing i kinda mind the most about new champions is when people either, ban nobody while they could ban them or what i mind far more is when peopel first time completely new champs in ranked on the day of their release, that is probably the thing that tilts me more than anything else in league. Absolutely yea and, if we are lucky enough maybe even a LoR background with them clashing cause, just the Jhin evolved background in the game looks amazing, let alone what they could do with the Galio/Bel'veth thing. Hey i was quite a Maokai enjoyer back in the days, still is likely among the most played i just, dont quite play him anymore cause he is just played in support now... But hey my will to try and think of great skin ideas for him has never decreased!

I really like the description you gave it, even someone who has no idea about it or league as a whole can pretty easily figure out what its about soo great job! (Plus the fight was pretty good, Batman would be kinda broken in summoners rift)
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Maybe just lowering the cost by 1 or 10-20% (based on how large the energy pool is) could work quite well. Might get them to have one more ability or something like that off. Oh, yeah, it definitely can't be permanent. Maybe there could be something that acts as a bit of a punishment if they don't actually go in on the target, like the cooldown for the next is doubled? That way they're not just using it to ping champions and are using it more strategically. Yeah, I'd say they only get the benefits if they aren't in turret range and have one or fewer allies near them. Then having the skill have a defined period available to it could have a good effect on forcing the enemies to group up or be punished, which is also useful. I'd dream for them to have individual voice lines for every character, but maybe just generic-ish lines for regions while they have specific lines for Zaun/Piltover champions and a few others (like Graves).

Oh, damn, good pull! I still don't have Azir, but he's a lot of fun (gotten to use him in Labs). I really like the level up tracks and being able to choose one region to get stuff from, it's so good for deck building. Yeah, I've been pleasantly surprised, although there's one AI in the lab that is an absolute bastard and that's Karma in Ezreal's campaign. You both start with 10 mana, which instantly levels her up, and if you don't deal with her quickly...

Oh, yes, I would love some Gnar short stories of him just venturing around the rift making wildlife friends and getting into scraps. The stories don't need to be huge and in-depth, just something to let us get to know the characters better. Oh, yes, I love dancing with Malz as Snow Day Bard. So many happy little minions enjoying another wonderful day on the rift. On norms I used to see if people would do dance parties with me in the river and you would be surprised how often I could get 7 or 8 characters dancing in the river together. So wholesome!

Oh no, you cannot just take a new champ into ranked first try! Gotta at least put em through their paces in a training match or something so you can also try builds out. Absolutely the worst, 10000000% agree. I practiced all of my main champs for at least a few days before I would take them into Ranked... Oh, lord, I would love a LoR background as well and maybe a Battlecast event could accompany the introduction of the Void faction into the game. Their art is (for the most part) just so freaking good and I love getting to see minor characters get fleshed out like how we have named Meeps now! Mao was a champ I'd take if I was first pick so that I could lean into supp or top based on the enemy team's picks. I absolutely love the tree man and it was a delight to see him in Ruined King. But, yes, more skins for him! I feel like they've barely scratched the surface with his thematic possibilities, although I love the graveyard one. Throwing lil tombstones.

Oh, good, I'm happy you approve! πŸ˜„ I took some of the description from the universe page and then fleshed out the mechanics a bit because that was my goal; to make it as easy to understand as possible. I'm gonna try makin some more teams with universe v universe and heroes v villains and such. Gotta get my mileage out of the arena. And mentioning Batman, he was pretty dang strong in Infinite Crisis:

Only real differences I would see is the DCEU Batman would use the rifle at range and switch to fisticuffs in melee range. He'd also probably have the ult replace the cape and call in a strafing run from the Batwing or something for his ult.
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Yea yea agreed, should only be activated if they actually engage on the enemy. In an ideal world everyone has interactions for everyone but honestly, as long as people have just 1-2 quotes for everyone from the same region plus any others that have clear connections to said region im more than happy. Oh and of course a couple random ones akin to Sylas having quotes for other "imprisoned" champions, not exactly same but in the same vein where an interaction could make sense etc etc.

Mhm managed to actually get quite lucky in these last couple days too as ive gotten 2 free bards and Illaoi's, although i dont think il ever use Illaoi cause i just dont like her in LoR. Yes that Karma is absolutely annoying as all hell, was the first time i lost against anyone in labs so swapped to Lux and destroyed her cause, 10 mana. However i will say i MUCH more dislike playing against the 2 star Zed, basically every fight in his adventure is hard as hell, still havent beaten him after multiple attempts, mostly using Jinx and Lux.

Mhm yea just a legitimate short story, would also be fun if Gnar (or anyone else) got to interact with a different champion, like idk maybe for Gnar he could run into Tristana and others in his story, that could be a bit of a fun one and all that. Ye river dance parties are something that is thankfully still around quite a bit in league, not all games by any means but in norms it happens relatively often.

Absolutely love all of Bard's card and meeps myself, Byrd is favourite (besides Bard ofc) cause well, its Byrd, and he has a tiny Bard in the background, they really did fully hit the vibe of what Bard cards should be at least imo.Ah yea i mostly just played him first pick top cause he was a very safe pick that couldnt get countered too hard back in the days, plus i just like Maokai so that helped a lot. And yea it is pretty good alright, honestly a dark star Maokai could be good just cause the saplings could be black holes that trasform into tiny monsters when they get activated.

Yea its really really good, dare i say one of my favourite league of legends related pages. Mhm yea Batman is just really strong always in more or less stats equalized scenarios, but dam tho that "smokescreen" does seem like it could be pretty strong, definetely could se him being pretty good all things considered.

Yea yea like a Rumble ult hitbox where the Batwing causes damage as it passes through, besides that and well the rifle would likely be pretty similar
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I'm trying to imagine a kit for them, as I think we have a pretty good passive ideated upon. They definitely need some kind of ability that throws some kind of cantrip that's meant to prevent escape via a slow debuff. I would say for this champ we'd need interactions with anyone considered a criminal or law enforcement. Def needs lines for Shaco to further cement the pseudo batman link.

Oh dang, those are some good pulls. Yeah, I'm going to eventually make an Illaoi deck, but as of right now I don't think her or her support cards are good enough. Yeah, Karma absolutely shites upon any deck using mostly low cost cards. I've beaten her with Annie, Jinx and Yasuo by just absolutely focus firing on her the instant she comes into play, but I hadn't tried Lux yet (although I don't know if I have her unlocked). And yeah, that Zed is so stupid punishing and I hate Fiora too due to her alt win condition. That whole adventure needs to be tuned down a notch or two.

Yes, they did so good with Bard! I actually really like Esmus, as a Pix with Elusive is just such a good card, especially if you attack second. And Byrd is such a solid started. I don't know how I feel about Maduli, tbh. He feels a little clunky and not worth the mana investment unless you've been doing really good with Chiming it up. I guess he feels like a win more card. I could see both Dark Star and Cosmic Mao working really well, with (like you said) the saplings being little black holes or baby stars respectively. The ult could be really freaking epic too.

It's honestly one of the most useful areas for making a battle because it comes with preset rules. Yeah, normal Batman was a pain to fight if you were alone. Honestly, all of the core justice leaguers were super strong. Like Superman was essentially Vi on steroids and could ult you from an entirely different lane. They balanced it by others being able to intercept the path, but it was devastating when it landed.

So, I've tried putting the blurb bio and the full bio on Bel and Blitz's history. Do you think it reads well that way or..?
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Id say rather than just a slow, it could be a tiny slow (example 20%) while also having an additional effect like Poppy's W where it would stun someone in place if they tried dashing, essentially a variation of "grounded" just less annoying, id imagine that could be th E since E is usually where the CC abilities go. Ohhh yea yea, that would add a quotes to more random champions (For piltover) like Yasuo, Sylas, SHACO, or even Gangplank, tbf he would likely hate half of Bilgewater.

Omg yes, that entire map is nasty, Fiora is disgusting, the Cythria bossfight is one i always skip same with Ren Shadowblade, but even if all the easier ones are taken likely half of my runs were stopped by Fiora, let alone Zed. Trying to level up on Nautilus right now cause as is i can only maybe beat Zed if i get amazing luck for the cards/powers.

Yea Maduli is the only one i wouldnt run in a deck that often, unless i am specifically going for some cheezy strat where i want to have "infinite" chimes then he is likely just not worth it as a 6 cost, if he was 5 cost he would be pretty damn great tho. Yea personally i couldnt think of what the saplings would be in the Cosmic skin but yea just starts works great, could even make them have a sorta supernova styled explosion when they do blow up, ohh the ones placed in bushes really glow up when they are activated would be really cool to see.

Mhm no need to list of all of the requiremenets in the description every time. Lol, that sounds really funny, just imagining Superman ult someone from mid to top would be pretty funny, unless you were the one being ulted.

I think Bel'veth's looks great and reads great, Blitz's feels a bit awkward due to his first paragraph explaining what he does in Zaun and then 2nd starts explaining what Zaun is, or at least thats how id explain that the uh shift from the blurb bio and full bio seems a bit odd but maybe its just cause im used to reading it as different? Either way, Bel'veth's great, Blitz's is a bit odd for that 1 moment but completely fine afterwards. Oh and dont know if you are finished with editing Blitzy but for now he looks great!
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Oh, that could work really well, punishing them for trying to dash out of the situation. Really like that, so it's def gotta be the E, like you said. Maybe the Q could be a flurry of ~3 blows that apply on hit effects but deal a third of half AD damage to kind of play into the martial arts angle as well as the enhancement the suit is giving. I desperately want the Shaco interactions, ngl. I'd also imagine he'd have a pretty positive opinion of Pyke and maybe wants to compare notes.

Yeah, I just despise every fight I get into there. I've not had too much trouble with Ren, but the rest have been so punishing. And giving the alt win condition to the mid-adventure boss was totally uncalled for. Nautiluses is a lot easier as long as you can deal with big dudes. But that Poro fight... It must be the Poro Braum's been training...

I would definitely play him if he cost 5 or if they wanted to keep him as a 6 cost, maybe give him like spell shield or barrier? Maybe there could be a randomization effect for the stellar saplings where they could be blue, orange, red or yellow to reflect what kind of star they'll grow into. And yes, the bush ones would need to be absolutely bursting with flames from their raw awakened power!

It is nice. And oh, yeah, Superman was really great at initiating and breaking up teamfights as you know he has a generous range on that ult. I'm sad that game crashed and burned as mechanically it was pretty good. Only real issues were with the sounds not quite being punchy enough and server lag.

I left in only the first sentence of Blitz's short description and now I think it reads far better. What do you think? I was gonna ask you to look over the stats next, thanks for doing so! Once I hear back about the description, I'll release him out into the wild to wreak havoc.
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Yea the triple blow thing could work well, maybe however id give it more gameplay by perhaps it going anywhere from 2-5 blows, perhaps depending on how many abilities and autos were weaved in before the Q? That way it would still be same in essence but would also have more gameplay as the player would have to pick if he wants to use it early or late. I would have the Q be fairly low CD like 3 seconds that dont scale down with levels, but the stacking from other abilities and autos would only begin when its off cooldown otherwise the next Q would always be stacked up. Oh lol, Pyke and him both being crazy in their own ways about justice/retribution would be really fun to see, absolutely love that idea.

Yea just an hour ago i went for another attempt and i got a legendary power (First card thats used on a turn is used twice, absolutely disgustingly broken). But even with that power up Fiora was the only one that got close to beating me cause my Jinx deck relies a lot on spamming lots of minions, sooo, she was 3/4 on the wincon, besides her though that powerup made the run insanely easy tho. Lol, yea that fight is really really hard, and absolutely uh, with the frostbite powerup thingy its kinda fairly easy to beat most of the time. I always skip the poro fight, that thing is far too hard, plus one wants to play poro decks not play against them!

The effects would make him far better yea, i would say tho i would love if he had lifesteal purely because that might be least utilized effect, i see a lifesteal card maybe once in 20 games if even that and i dont really mind it at all as an effect (Especially compared to some...). The only thing i really wouldnt want in the cosmic/dark star skin for Maokai tho is, him having a giant dark-star/sun in the middle of his body like Malphite has it in his dark star skin, it kinda completely ruins the skin for me especially in game as it looks incredibly "wonky"

Hmmm i see i see, well that is a shame most definetely.

Yeap it does look far better, great job! And no problem of course

But eyyy seems finally everything besides the skin-universe page has been accepted, i suppose people are a bit apprehensive about it as it is a tad bit different compared to most verse pages maybe?
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Hmm, maybe it could work on a charge system of some kind that he could build up blows over time or by auto attacking up to a certain limit? And yes, 100% agree he only builds those up when its off CD, cause otherwise that'd be a little too broken, especially with CDR. Honestly could see the pair getting a long quite well and maybe they have some kind of rivalry?

Oh damn, that is broken af! And yeah, Jinx decks are gonna have a pretty tough time against Fiora pickin your dudes off at will. Yasuo does pretty well against her once you get his 1 star power, as she just gets stunned at the beginning of every turn. Oh, lord, yes that would make Naut pretty freakin toothless. I know it's a joke making the Poro fight so hard (I've tried it 4 times and lost so hard every time), but yeah, I don't want to hurt a poor lil Poro, even if it can kick my butt with ease.

Lifesteal might actually play well into Bard's play style. Now that I'm thinking about it, there's no card representing Bard's healy pads, which I find odd. Maybe it could heal an ally 1 and give them quick attack for the turn for 2 or something along those lines. But, yeah, lifesteal is exceedingly rare, although I understand why. Maybe he could have stars for his eyes? Or a single large star inside his head that shined out through his eyes? That'd still keep him aesthetically tied to the line and be a more unique take that is something of an organic Dyson Sphere... Actually, that should be the whole concept as that's a pretty cool idea.

Honestly, the character variants were really cool too. A Superman that had fused with the Phantom Zone, a magical knight Green Lantern, a decapitated and irradiated Joker that controlled a bane-like body... Sigh..

Cool, releasing the Crank. I'll let Bel out too set as tier 4 until we see more from her.

Well, let me know when you're finished up with the rest of the Sentinels/Ruined champs. I'll maybe explain the idea of the whole thing to MoNsTeR on wednesday or something. Oh, now that I'm thinking about it... Do you think Tibbers/Tybaulk should get his own profile now that we know more about him?
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Yea just, either auto's or abilities, id say he could stack it on monsters/minions too but they would fall off passively over time, similar to Tryndamere rage for example. Hmm, maybe the piltover one would see Pyke as a rival because he is considerably more edgy but Pyke would likely just go along with it for sake of it i feel.

Yea Yasuo is imo really good for either fiora or more or less the entire nautilus side BUT, i kinda just dislike playing him, dont really like stun decks much at all. Tried it only once, never again, the only fight i think could be even harder is the uhh, fleetfeather tracker fight on Zed's map, without the best buffs dont think i could beat it at all tbf

Hmmmm, id say it could be a, 3 cost burst spell that, maybe either heals target or nexus for 2 and it gives 1+/0 and quick attack for a turn, might be a bit on the weaker side if quick attack isnt permanent but, i feel it would be a bit too strong if it was.permanent. Ohhh i like the eye ideas, especially cause we dont really have any of those from what i remember at least.

Oh variants you say? Quite notable gameplay differences too i assume cause well, swole Joker after all.

I might start editing the stats/history of some of them rn but i doubt any will be finished today, did add the images tho sooo i guess any you'd change/alter? Yea sounds good, hopefully does just go through even before then but ye. Hmmmm, id say it could work yea, we probably have enough info to add him so feel free to do it ofc.
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Yeah, the stacks would definitely need to fall off over time. Explain it away as like the hydraulics lose pressure over time or something like that. Maybe it could give him a very short dash as well so it has a utility even when low on stacks (I'm thinking a little shorter than Vayne's roll). W's are usually defensive oriented abilities, correct? Maybe his could be like the outer armor plates getting electrified? Like it adds a damage reduction to him while its active and adds some ap damage to his auto? Yes, no, this dude definitely thinks of Pyke as a rival whereas the revenant just kinda tolerates him because he occasionally helps him take down a captain.

Yeah, not a huge fan of stun decks either, but I just keep getting shards for him and he's almost at 3 stars now. I just got a legendary that gives you ten random leveled up champs in your deck and lowers the costs of all of your champs by one. I'm on the fence on it...

Healing two and giving the buff would be worth 3 imo, whether it stays or not. Just as long as it's a fast spell. Maybe it could have a system that the heal builds up the longer it's in your hand? Like it starts as one and goes up by one each turn? Idk, just something to tie into the whole healy pads building up. I think we've def got a solid concept for a Event Horizon Mao now and I would definitely buy it.

Oh yes, they play quite differently. Supes had two, the Phantom and a Mecha version. Normal Supes was a fighter, Mecha was an outright support tank along the lines of Braum/Alistar and Phantom Supes was a bulky controller that was something of a mix between Thresh and Yorick. I really liked him because when he died you got to possess the guy who killed you and lower their defensive stats. If they were killed while possessed, you'd get to come back at half health.I really liked that variant if you can't tell.

All of the images looked really good to me, excellent job there. Just let me know as you finish up the stat blocks because I cannot wait to use the whole Ruined Team for invasions of other universes! I mean, I could create an individual universe for each, but I just feel like this saves space and seeing as some of the universes are fairly small, this just works out the best. Cool, I'll see about requesting him once I finish up the Tech-On Avengers universe, which was a really fun read.
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Yea the little dash is probably neccessary too because honestly, i do think the champion should be melee, and likely either a top laner or jungler so some form of mobility is definetely needed, i wouldnt let it go over walls tho. That could work for the W yea, i would maybe just also give it an extra function where it can be canceled early to remove some of the cooldown (like garen spin), but id also make it so it needs to ramp up for a second before it gets the full effects since it would be really unfun for it to be pressed to block a veigar ult for example and then instantly turned off to save cooldown. Lol yea an actually pretty good Pyke combo, would love to see the two of them try and take on some "criminal" champions like Sylas or whonot.

Damn really? I have yet to get even any 2 stars, somehow managed to split shards across a lot of the champions so most are just level 1 for now. Hmmm, id say that legendary is definetely on the weaker side (for a legendary) BUT, sounds quite fun, its like the better version of the howling abyss landmark, just a lot of fun to use.

Didnt think about that at all, i would put a cap on it but also give it an added effect, example after 5 turns in hand its a 5 heal, but its cost also gets lowered from 3 to 2, because well waiting 5 turns is quiet a long time, it should have a fairly powerful added effect especially since it would fit Bard's pads having a final buildup.

Honestly that sounds really fun the whole ability to affect the fight even death in a way that isnt just being able to deal damage like Kog or Karthus, would like to even see a similar ability in league implemeted.

Well thanks a lot, but yeai will focus on doing the ruined team first then and the sentinels after just to make the things faster. Absolutely agreed, especially since there could also be skins which could definetely get a profile of their own but dont belong to any skinline really, i guess best example would be a skin like Sea Dog Yasuo or some of the really old skins when riot really didnt do skinlines much.

Edit: Think i am done with Karma and Pantheon, anything you think needs changing? Oh also gonna handle Draven later today. (Side note, i removed Atreus' name from Ruined Pantheon since its technically the Aspect of War who is in control rather than Atreus himself)
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The fewer dashes that go over walls, the happier I will be ngl. Maybe it could be a toggle-able ability that drains your energy over time. That way when you activate it it only gives you the damage buff at first and then after like 2 seconds you get the damage reduction. And I wasn't imagining it as a huge reduction, maybe like 15-20% at max level. Ooo, that could be an interesting short story format, just seeing the new guy going around and trying to apprehend all the baddies. Maybe Pyke gives him something that acts as a calling card to call on Pyke because new guy did him a solid but he just over uses it. I do also wonder how Sylas would react to hextech... Like, it IS magic, but it also isn't...

I only have Annie, Jinx and Yas unlocked, everyone else is 5-10 shards away from being unlocked and it makes me so sad, because I really like those opening campaigns they get. My only problem is that a lot of the champs it gives me just didn't work particularly well with my Annie deck. Like I kept getting Jayce who isn't great in a deck built around 1-4 cost cards.

I honestly think League should steal the concept. The debuff was good, but not game breaking and it made the team really consider who they needed to deal with first in a fight cause you could 1) eliminate the crowd control guy first and risk losing a valuable teammate and rezing an enemy or 2) ignore the crowd control guy and leave them for last. There was actually some good discourse about which route was better and made it really matter who got the last hit in on him.

Cool! They're just one I think'll be fun to pit against teams of heroes. I think the Sea Dog line (if it becomes one) will be canon, as they're supposed to be the RK team with Naga's blessing, But, yes, I'm thinking like God Fist Lee Sin, Elementalist Lux, Gun Goddess MF...

I looked em over and they both look good. I kinda think Atreus should added back in, though, like when Venom possesses Cap or someone they're still linked to the og profile.
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Hmmmm yea yea cause honestly if its higher than 15-20%, if the champion is AD what i imagine the champ to be, buying a Death's dance would give a technical 50% damage reduction which would be quite absurd, either way do like the idea for the W, i guess that only leaves ult which i imagine could be some sort of a projectile in a rumble manner as i do feel he needs some proper way to engage and be of use in teamfights. Lol, yea a coin or something of the sorts. Hmmmmm. if i had to guess Sylas probably wouldnt like it at all as he does seem to think Mages are almost a sort of next evolution of humans, so hextech might be something he'd dislike, i imagine he would definetely try seeing if he can harness its magic though.

Yea the opening and 2 star lore campaigns are my favourite too cause well, having the slight lore aspect is always nice. Yeeea kinda same but also less of a problem since Jinx works with more champions than Annie, either way i do same basically all of my rerolls either for the first power, or the champion.

Yea the concept is definetely strong but also unique and not really that overbearing, and also far preffered over just slapping 5 new ways of dealing damage ontop of a new champion so id be all for them implementing the idea or at least a variation of it. (After all, it is just a much more healthy version of Yuumi, so it definetely wouldnt be "too far fetched")

Yea yea it should be canon i was just, struggling to think of those non-skinline skins, those you mentioned are vastly better examples, more or less exactly what i had on mind.

Okay thanks thanks, oh and fair point, i will go change it back and then release them out for now, Draven gonna be coming along tommorow.
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Maybe a flat armor/mr boost would be better so we don't get to crazy damage reduction numbers. Maybe he could turn himself into a missile of sorts. Like he does a brief charge up and then charges a certain distance forward and stops at the first champ/wall he hits (kind of imaging him crossing his arms in front of him) and when he makes contact he releases a a aoe electrical shock that damages and slows those caught in it and whoever got hit directly by him gets stunned. That way he's got some engage but he has to commit to it. I think it would be most interesting if Sylas couldn't harness power from it effectively. Maybe something to do with the synthetic nature of Hex/Chemtech.

I actually just lucked out and finally unlocked Darius. His campaign is literally him just stumbling around Demacia challenging everything he finds to fights. Freakin great. And yeah, it's pretty easy to fit anyone into Jinx's deck as she doesn't really have any specific mechanic attached to her outside of emptying your hand.

I would say if League did it, maybe doing a flat armor/mr reduction and maybe a 10% slow that lasts maybe 3 seconds. And yes, this is far more interesting than freaking Yuumi. GD cat. Now that I think about it, Heroes of the Storm had a champ that persisted after death and lowered his respawn timer by hitting enemies with his abilities (none of which dealt damage).

I think the demon Galio would fall into this thought line as well. And the skin that turns ASol in Ao Shin with a Lee Sin pupil.

I look forward to seeing our boisterous boy at his most powerful yet!
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Hmmm yea true, i would however add that maybe said MR/Armor cannot be reduced by lethality/magicpen or %armor/magic penetration so it doesnt turn into an ass ability later, although that might be a bit too much. Like the idea plus most definetely fits what a justice obsessed edgelord would do, plus we really dont have enough "hard commit" engages in the game nowadays i feel cause they always add a way to not get too punished too (cough yone cough). Hmmmm, yea maybe that could make him want to find out about the source of hex/chemtech and piltover/zaun as a whole?

Lol, sounds incredibly fun, still missing 5 fragments for him myself but im sure il love it once i get to him. Mhm, honestly most of the time my Jinx barely see's play, the other champion usually gets used far more while Jinx is picked purely cause her power and cards are really good at overwhelming the bots early on.

Hmmmmm, that could work, not really that strong but not weak either, if its a passive ability it could come of use especially in botlane 2v2's i imagine or late game teamfights, i could also see a possibility that its a skillshot similarly to old Zyra passive when she had to hit you with the thorn after she died, however if it was a skillshot id also increase the slow and resistance reductions. Ohhhhh?? Honestly that is easily my favourite implementation of a death passive, a possibly great reward for using it properly but the opponent also isnt punished by default for killing you.

Yea yea both of those, granted the Ao Shin skin does also have the, Purple Dragon thingy Brand skin? Still with him, Lee and Asol thats 3 skins which is, really minor.
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Yeah, it'd be a hard ability to balance, although there's always the route of it having a shield, which I would prefer not to have here. Maybe there could be some scaling to it, but I'm not sure what would best represent it. I mean, he would still have ways to disengage, although he's definitely not being built for that. Plus, I prefer a champion that goes hard brings a lot of risk to the table with such an impactful ability. Sylas going to Piltover might be one of the most fun/funny ideas I've heard in a while. Maybe he meets up with Blitz too!

When he gets to Garen is pretty great too. Yeah, I honestly just prefer Annie as she's got a lot of flexibility in how she plays and I just like dropping Tibbers on the enemy. But, yeah, that play/discard a card = 1 damage power is pretty freakin strong early game.

Making it a skill shot could work if they want some counter play for it, but then it would def need to be stronger. Ohh, yeah, that'd make a really effective dive support champ, although the ADC would still presumably need to follow through. Leoric was the guy with that ability. It is pretty similar to Karthus's, but I like the reduced respawn more than getting some damage in.

Looking into it, apparently the LoL wiki calls that the Dragonmancer universe. Actually has a fair number of skins attached to it. Dragonmancers
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Eh shield would feel wrong, perhaps it could just have itself scale based on champion level rather than ability level? That way there is no incredibly cheezy early max strats or anything while still hopefully being impactful late but alas. And yea same, i like when champions have clear strenghts and weaknesses rather than being just all arounders. Quite quite, having Vi and Cait also chase him through the city could be pretty good fun, especially if he helps himself by copying the magical abilites from bystanders or whonot. One thing i want with Blitz is for him to reunite with Viktor, i need a wholesome moment between the two of them!

I did actually build a Viego deck today and man, Viego might be my favourite champion to use, really strong on his own while also scaling pretty well into late game, more or less exactly the playstyle i like as generally i really dislike early cheese decks.

Yea yea of course of course, aint no botlane working without both the adc and support alright. Mhm ye same, Karthus' is likely stronger due to how impactful his ult is lategame but from a purely gameplay point i much prefer Leoric's.

Damn, that really is a lot huh, thoguht most of those were their own separate skinline. (Voli, Karma, Thresh etc etc)

Edit: Annnd the face of league himself has been updated, gonna transfer to the Sentinel champions now slowly.
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That'd be one way to address the issue for sure. Champs being able to have a couple of roles they can play, but they need to have very defined strengths and weaknesses. Ohhhh, a fist fight between Vi and Sylas could be pretty good. And maybe he could learn the power of the GUN. Yes, I imagine they both cry when finally reunited... That makes me wonder, though, where is Battlecast Blitz??

I don't think I have him unlocked, or if I do I only have one. I really enjoy my Braum Poro deck. It's just a lot of fun and I like those army decks quite a bit. And yeah, I prefer decks that try to scale into the late game.

They must truly become one. Thematically this champ idea would work well with Kalista. Maybe it could even be Ledros!!! He's all about dying and coming back. But, yeah, I'm interested in gameplay that ties well into the champion's identity and character. Karthus has always felt like a grab bag of ideas that don't really tie into his actual lore.

I did too, and was confused to also see it's a separate continuity from the dragon slayers. Feels weird to have two different dragon focused universes..

Ruined Draven looks great to me!

*edit* LoLAU is up!
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Since its kinda connected to the topic, have against Bel'veth and with her on my team, she does not seem fun at all to face, at a certain point she starts attacking far too much while being really hard to kill, oh and a single one of her ult reset things did 1.2k true damage to me, she wasnt fed either so yea overall, not really thrilled. Id expect nothing less BUT... yes that is a really good point since well, having Blitz be his first Battlecast unit would make a lot of sense, fit with current lore too, etc etc. I dont mind it not existing too much only cause Blitz already has a shitton of skins.

Mhm yea i like army decks too, tried playing, Irelia/Azir but, idk cant get it too work, PLUS, its really not a scaling deck at all soooo, did kinda waste a lot of my essence/wildcards but alas.

Ledros would be great yep yep, plus he could still be quite unique as we dont have a true knight type champion for Shadow Isles, Hecarim is the closest thing but well, he is a horse. Hmmmmm, yea i would have to agree there, feels like they added his abilities for sake of making a kit rather than making it fit with him, even if reworked though id never change his ult, its, too much of an iconic thing for Karthus (Plus i really love him "screaming/singing" before dropping it down)

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuh, yea, granted i guess different type of dragons but, alas.

Thanks a lot for checking him out, might start working on a sentinel or two now will see.

Great great! Any ones you want to do first? Of course after i finish the Sentinels and Kindred/Fiddle and you do the avengers thingy naturally.
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Whelp, 30 it is so here we are.

Mhm, id love to see more Thrawn and i do think he would work great in this scenario, perhaps over time he would maybe even fully remove Anakin from the picture. Dooku was always a bit of a gray jedi so i can see that for sure, i would also enjoy seeing Mace and Anakin fight each other. (Both cause of memes and cause i do believe it would actually be pretty good)

Hmmm, she is really fun tbf and as someone who has played Rell, i would say the reason why she isnt as popular is firstly cause she was bad for a little while, but more importantly compared to other engagers like Leona or Naut she is much more punished for messing up her engage, as she will almost always die if she misses her W due to the speed debuff she gets afterwards. She is also a lot less useful after her big engage since most of her power comes from the possible 5 man double stun, still though she is doing a lot better now in the meta so i do expect her to get a bit more popular, hopefully enough for any of those ideas to come around.

Yea, she is fairly low priority after all. Speaking of side characters, now that you finished Ruined King do you think Necrit has enough stuff to be added himself? After all it is Necrit so he most definetely deserves to be included if possible.

Alright cool cool. To say the least Taric is... dazzling. Memes aside though i do love the fabelous man, if he could be played in a way that didnt include his cheezy duo start i would definetely have him as my main support alongside Sona. Yeap, i loved both the comic and music video, both really made Varus fairly more interesting, especially considering i just saw him as "demon pants" before that. Oh yea if i could pick anyone to be released next it would definetely be the next two darkin, presumably one should be a midlaner and the other a support so that a full Darkin team is possible. Speaking of void mommy, her name is actually Bel'veth and you can even see her alleged leaked ingame appearance if you google it. If true she is seemingly the "moth" like character in the background of Battlecast Velkoz's splash.

Whelp, cant comment cause honestly i cant remember the last time i played against a Riven in LoR. For me however the two most annoying LoR champions are easily Ahri and Zed, i dont even think Zed is that good anymore but he is still just so infuriating.

Ziggs and Malph here cause, tank+mage player, ironically thought i got Odyssey jinx on a skin reroll shortly after the event, really good skin. Ah yea, i love all snowdown skins but Bard is definetely the best one, honestly a perfect Bard skin. (Bard has really really good skins tho, astronaut bard is also absolutely amazing for example)

Mhm yea, well we will just have to wait and see what they do with Asol, at least we dont need to worry about him being made even more unpopular cause, he is played less than even Skarner himself.

I always forget about extrasensory, gonna add both and thanks for the help. A bit off topic but is the site a bit laggy for you lately? Also just got finished with Orianna, she ended up a bit higher than i originally expected but hextech is hextech after all.
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I mean, Thrawn is crafty and duplicitous enough to pull it off, but he's also super loyal, so I'd think Anakin would at least stay in a figure head type position while Thrawn straightens out the pretenders. Quick aside, they super wasted Thrawn in Rebels. I would love to see Anakin and Mace actually fight due to them both having such aggressive styles. Might even be cool for Anakin to lose his arm or something in his first duel with him and come back to beat him the second time around because of some tricks he built into the arm or something.

Oh, yeah, I can see her having trouble establishing a niche for herself compared to Naut or Leona, especially with that mentioned slow down. I really think she's a cool design though and I'd love to see the art team play with her. I really think it'd help some champs that are floundering in popularity if they got a really sick skin or two.

Necrit, is unfortunately just a quest giver and doesn't really participate in anything. He gives you a lot of good info, but he just stands around at the Shadow Isles dock. Doesn't even get to do anything in the cut scenes. He's super useful and helps you along the way, but he mostly just talks.

Oh, I love Taric. He's def in my top 5 favorite supps. It really made Varus a lot cooler, and I used to play him as one of my top couple of ADCs. I really want to see what they do with the Darkin, especially when it comes to the weapon they're themed around. Naturally want a shield wielder so we can have someone other than Braum to consider a Captain America skin for. I watched the Bel'Veth image and, ngl, I don't like her humanoid form. The gold Manta is really cool and makes her look otherworldly.

I mostly experiment in the challenge modes, so I can only really talk about playing as them. And, yeah, Zed is just kind of a boring deck to play with or against.

They're all great and Jinx's is really good. Only one I don't super like is Yasuo because he's in every skin line... Oh, yeah, I love Astro Bard too. I pick which skin I use based on my partner and how team chat is going prior.

Yeah, I remember when ASol came out no one really tried him then either. He's such a good idea and the execution is just so disjointed. I couldn't even make him an effective support and I made Illaoi supp work. I hope they do good for our favorite crystal scorpion. I like the ideas behind him, especially being able to steal an enemy from a safe position.

No problem. Yeah, I've had a couple of weird server-ish issues pop up the last few days. Ori looks good to me, although I'd add weapon-based power to her. Other than that, looks great! I'm working on ice birb atm.
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True true, but would he be as loyal to Anakin? Considering in this scenario he would've technically unjustly killed and usurped Palpatine. Yea havent really watched much Rebels but, i heard the series overall is quite underwhelming, especially compared to Clone Wars which are amazing.

Oh absolutely as hell, an actually great skin can always make a big difference. Not as big as Arcane did for some champs though, Viktor went from one of the least played champs to the confident number 1 most popular champ for a while, even now he still has around twice the playrate he used to have.

Ah, unfortunate, still, really cool Riot actually gave him a fairly big and fitting role in the game.

The support darkin could be a shield user or maybe a sort of a mace/flail user since well, we did talk about the need of more of those and i do think it could be very fitting for a disruption type support, maybe since the support wouldnt deal much damage he would heal when he CC's opponents? For the mid one i would really prefer if it was a mage sort of champion, so rather than a weapon perhaps a necklace or something similar could work. (I would be extremely bummed out if it was an assassin, i need my mage darkin!). Yea kinda same opinion really, her golden manta form looks sick, kinda reminds me of the Ethereals from XCOM, as far as regular appearance goes, i really dont think she should even vaguely resemble anything humanlike so, not quite good.

Yeap yeap agreed, i do think the 2nd batch of Odyssey skins is VASTLY weaker tho, i think Aatrox is the best skin there (cause i love anything purple) but even that one is kinda eh compared to original Odyssey skins at least imo. Hehe, over here i mostly dont have plenty of skins, but for champs i do (Nasus,Viktor,Syndra,Sion) i usually just spam one skin for a while then change, currently it has been quite a bit of Pharaoh Nasus and Lumberjack Sion, cause both are great. (i actually unironically like the Nasus one but i do mostly play it cause its a meme)

Mhm, eventhough i tried playing ASol myself i just, never could for a while, he just feels a bit too off but hopefully riot can fix him up. Yea, i do hope they still keep him as the beefy "steal your adc/mid" pick that runs at you, i do think they could stray away from that and make him more of a bruiser, just a weird hunch really.

Ah okay okay, cause i was wondering if it was just my wifi or not. Annnd added, thanks. From a very quick glance she looks great, dont have much time right now though so gonna check again later just to make sure but ye great for now.
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Thrawn joined after the creation of the Empire, so it's possible he would've come into the fold after Anakin had come to power, so it could go either way as per his loyalty. Honestly, the only part of Rebels worth keeping is when Obi-Wan kills Maul. It was really well done despite the rest of the series being a dumpster fire.

Oh wow, that's quite a glow up for ol Vik. I remember when I'd break him out for when I got forced into mid lane (prior to the whole game deciding your position) and people would be questioning my sanity. I usually did okay. I remember when Omega Squads dropped and all of the champs jumped up in usage significantly. Although there being more Fizz in the world is a questionable change at best...

Yeah, no, Necrit was super important, but he just didn't really actively participate in the story. They really do need to give him a card in LoR as some kind of passive counter to last breath decks or something cause he's all about trying to put the dead to a final rest. Maybe he could disable the effects but be like a 1/3 or something for 4 or 5. Make him real niche but ultimately fairly simple to dispose of if necessary. Just spit ballin here.

Ooooo, yes or maybe even like a whip or lasso or something. A heal or shield could work, maybe made out of the blood of the enemies it hit? If we want to keep up with the blood magic angle. That could work or they could do some kind of staff as well? Make them an AD/AP mix mage of sorts that has some close range abilities (hopefully dealing with blooood)? And yes, now that you say that that is exactly what she looks like! The only reason I can think of her even remotely "needing" a humanoid form is if she has to have a host of some kind to be in this realm. I hope she's really cool, but I'm kinda worried just from what I've seen of her.

I will concur with that, although I kinda like Odyssey Kha despite that occupying a similar space to his Mecha skin. I used to not have a ton of hobbies, so most of my disposable income went into making sure all of my supps had all of their skins alongside the other champs I liked. I also usually got the Champ bundles when they came out. I think all of Susan's skins are fun, but agreed on the meme skins. I just like looking goofy some times. Draven Draven is my fave for that style, although I rarely played him.

I would say for Skarner that his ult's core identity needs to stay and I like its interaction with his Q. I hate his passive, so that can go, although I don't mind the idea of a champ that needs to care about map control. Maybe they could do something with Bracken crystals appearing at intermittent intervals that he needs to secure for a temporary buff? His w and e are meh too. I'm okay with him being a bruiser, but I just like kidnapping an ADC in a risky dive.

Yeah, things been a lil funky. I'll leave her in my edit queue for now until you get a chance to give her the once over. I really appreciate your input. I'll start up work on Voli as well.
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Hmm i see i see. Yea i watched that part in specific cause i mean, anything with Obi-Wan and Maul is bound to be good, granted that one was especially good, really was a great scene.

Oh boy i just suddenly got flashbacks of times when Draft Pick wasnt a thing, what a chaotic era, i was a mid player back then so getting my role was quite hard at times, still, whenever i was forced to play support it was Taric, MF for adc, Garen top and Shyvana jg. Yea true everyone loved those skins, especially due to how good teemo is, but hey yknow, nowadays uhhh, Fizz is something you see extremely rarely, ive maybe seen him in 3-4 games this entire year, courtesy of one of the new items really countering him.

Hmmm if so, i would either make him a, 3 cost 2-3 with an effect of "If he kills a unit with last breath the effect cannot activate", or i would make him a 4 cost 2/2 that makes it so last breath cannot activate for either player as long as he is on the board, that way he is really effective but also really squishy for any spells or anything of the like, a kind of a big risk big reward card, probably would go with the second idea myself but both are nice imo.

Yea yea, i think all Darkin champs must have good sustain and also be blood related, which i guess Varus kinda isnt rn but... he can pass cause he is technically 3 people (Stretching the rulebook quite a bit here, yes). Oh the staff idea sounds good, cause i mean for sure there was an ascended and by extension a darkin who was a mage more than a traditional fighter, they were probably more rare but for sure there were at least a few. Hmmm yea that could be possible but uh, kinda same? I dont expect her to be someone i will hate (for lore or gameplay reasons) but i feel she will just be someone that has really high potential in concept but will feel kinda meh all around, idk, i guess something like Akshan. He never really stuck to me as a "real champion" of sorts, just doesnt really feel like he has much of a presence or anything eventhough he was kinda important. in the biggest event we had in a while.

Odyssey kha is okay, just the, Sivir and especially TF skins suck, at least imo. I see i see, over here i just kinda waited for discount, and i can confirm that in the last 2 year almost every cheap nasus skin got quite a heavy discount, im 100% sure he is the champ ive bought most skins for, and have overall cause i also lucked out and got the more expensive ones for free. But yea i like almost all of his skins too, i dont like space groove at all purely cause i heavily dislike the voice changer they gave him. Oh yea, Draven Draven is a skin thats on another level compared to 99% of skins, if any champion would ever wear a giant bubblehead of themselves, it would be Draven.

Maybe to keep the map control aspect, but also make it so he isnt just kinda super reliant on being able to secure the spire's before a fight, it could be changed to where Skarner would still have spires around the map but instead of them being active the entire game, he could activate one of them for some ammount of time with a cooldown? Like idk example, every 2 minutes he can activate a spire for 30 seconds, with only one being possibly active on the map at the same time, and oh perhaps it could also have a "charge up" period so that it has a bit of a planning aspect, that would also stop him from invading the enemy and activating the spire on the spot to guarantee a win. But thats all if they really want to keep his map control parts rather than just completely nuke them which i think is completely fine too. And yea i mean, him being a bruiser is fine as long as he doesnt become as mobile as one, i dont want to see Skarner dashing around the map.

Whelp looked over again and she looks completely great to me. Edit: Just finished Jayce myself, also lowered Viktor's power a bit since i did put it a bit too high before.
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It's such a good scene! Idk why that was the only time they really seemed to get any inspiration. Well, except for when Vader kills Ahsoka, but that got retconned.

Oh yeah, it was super chaotic. Ngl, that's what kind of pushed me into being a support, I almost never had competition for the spot. So nice. I like all of those champs except for maybe Garen, he's just never clicked for me. Oh, the less Fizz the better. Hate that little bastitch.

I definitely like the latter suggestion. Makes him very good against specific decks, but also easily outable. Might add another ability to him as well like once a turn if he sees an enemy die you get some kind of small bonus like maybe a mana gem? They could also make it a you choose which ability when he's played. Just somethin to make sure he's still playable.

I mean, Varus is supposed to be using blood to form the arrows they use, so at least they are behind the scenes still blood related. The staff would just be a good way to imply a mage while still maintaining the weapon theme. I'd also hope they make them a melee mage. That'd be neat so they still feel like a fighter, but definitely rely on magic. Yeah, no Void Mommy is def gonna be interesting if anything just for the lore. I hope Riot goes ahead and releases a teaser for her kit cause we know her ult transforms her somehow. I haven't ever seen Akshan outside of LoR, but he seemed interesting there, but I can't really weigh in on his LoL gameplay, although he looks like a fusion of Vayne and Sivir with just a dash of Cait.

Oh, yeah, those two are freaking terrible. That is definitely the best way to do it, although I will admit I got lucky more than a few times with chest skins and the discount shop thingy. Susan is a hard one to mess up skins for. I especially like the Galactic skins because of the StarGate references. I love the exaggeration of Draven Draven. The whole Definitely Not line needs to be expanded. I always bought those up the instant they appeared.

Oh, that'd be a fair way to do it as well. It'd make him still care where he engages the enemy without it being annoying to constantly grabbing them. I'd honestly they get rid of the whole aspect. I find it annoying to do and it draws my attention away from actually helping my team. I will say movement speed skarner is freaking hilarious, especially when you can grab someone and pull them into the fountain.

Jayce looks great! I have no issues with him. Gonna try to finish Voli up so you can check him out. I thankfully have an approximate power level for him between Anivia and Janna.
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Yeeeeeeeeeaaaa, Ahsoka sure did seem alive in Boba Fett and Mando, which i mean, seeing her is nice cause she is fun, buuuuut i would prefer if her dying to Vader was where she was left off, cause i sincerely doubt they can give her an ending thats even remotely as good as it was. I will assume Vader will just kill here again but if that happens it kinda lost its value already.

I guess the same pushed me away from being a mid laner eventho its my favourite role, seasons 8-10 it was actually impossible to get Mid more than a third of the games or so, but Riot has VASTLY improved the matchmaking when it comes to getting your main/secondary role so i am slowly going back to it.Oh i just played Garen cause, i used to build trinity force ignite and all that jazz, so if i actually managed to Q-E someone they would die rather fast, which i found hilarious as a playstyle.

Perhaps then to make him not completely useless against non-shadow isles decks, he could refund 2 mana in case you dont want his effect, that way he is still a 2 cost 2/2 which is kind of bad but its not utterly useless, although i would prefer if it was something more "entertaining" rather than just costing him down.

Would love that because we are really lacking a juggernaut mage in the game right now, the only other one is Mordekaiser but he does just kinda suck ass, and if he ever was meta he would be incredibly unfun to play against due to his ult and him being really hard to mess up on, sooo i would really enjoy a shorter range tankier mage darkin as a champ. I think it could be coming out tommorow actually since tommorow is the patch update so we could very well get Void Mommy on the PBE. Yea thats kinda his problem, he was made to be sort of a, adc-assassin hybrid for the midlane since there arent really many adcs played mid, but in the end he is mostly just played Top as a counterpick to immobile champs, or well lately isnt quite played at all, i think he is one of the least popular releases in the last 2 or so years.

Oh yea with chest skins i have gotten incredibly lucky plenty of times, not so much with discount things cause they keep giving me Vlad skins which i do not enjoy for most part. I love Galactic cause Nasus still has his old splash art, seeing him look like that in the same loading screen as Truth Dragon Yasuo or some other new skin is hilarious. Yeeap, a real shame they seemingly wont be making more of them, cause the idea is so simple but so good, especially the Vel'koz one, man i love that skin.

There was even a skarner top otp whose entire strategy was baiting you close to his turret after which you would get reeled in, he even found a way to make it an almost certain death because he figured out how to instantly stun you after the ult duration ends, so you would be under the turret for quuuite a while if he got you there. Alas though yea, i would remove the map aspect myself, and the only part i would not change whatsoever is the ult cause, it is Skarner to say the least.

Thanks thanks, gonna start working on some others for now and oh, finished Rammus. Voli looks great, about where i expected him to be since i do think he is slightly stronger than Anivia. Oh and btw if you want to change images for any of them feel absolutely free too, i myself have been planning to change the one for Voli for ages. (Just happen to be too good at procrastinating) Edit: Sivir is done too.
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I think Boba Fett and Mando are set after the death of Vader, so it's super unlikely by now. I just don't like them having random Jedi running around when Luke is supposed to be the last of the old order and the first of a new order. It just cheapens him. Like, having a few running around pre-New Hope is fine, but Vader was supposed to have wiped them all out and seeing as he now has the Inquisitors as well, I don't see how that could've failed. Jedi are officially cockroaches.

Mid Lane was always the one I felt the worst at. I legit like protecting the team and setting up vision and what not. Plus the fact I usually only had to wait -3 seconds to get into a match when they updated the system made it all the sweeter. Ah, okay, yeah, I get cheesy Garen and I've seen how devastating he can be. Now I kinda want to see a tank made to scale off of crit chance intentionally now...

Oh yeah, Morde is kinda weird. He's always either too weak or too strong. I like a lot of the ideas of his kit, but it's just in a weird spot. And yes, a megernaut would be a really cool play style for a Darkin, although I wonder who they would have be the possessed character. Maybe like an older out of shape mage character or something? Ooooo, I will be watching [email protected] then. I really like Akshan's concept, but yeah, I just don't get his kit. He needs a soft reboot or something. Maybe like a different ulti or something?

Honestly, I know they're loot boxes, but I've never felt ripped off by them. Like I'm always getting something of value at least a little greater than what I put in. Oh yeah, it def looks goofy. I wouldn't mind them trying to turn the Galactic skins into a legit line with lore. Like maybe each of them rule their own little feudal states in space and impersonate the local gods or somesuch through their tech. Then maybe Rell could get a Galactic skin as like a liberator against the false gods.

Oh man, that sounds like a clutch play right there. I remember getting the base boots on Skarner and running out to ult someone at our base and just zoom them into the fountain. Freaking hilarious, especially if the enemy in question was fed. I agree, no touch the ult. It is perfection. I like the Q, ngl, as it does synergize with the ult as you can keep doing damage while you drag them away.

Yeah, if anything he's a little stronger than her just because he's an actual fighter. I did update the pic, as I found a zoom in on his head from his og skin. I looked over our favorite rolly boy and he looks great. I might raise natural weapons up to medium, but other than that, perfection! Sivir is missing Weapon Based Powers, but that's all I noticed. I'm slowly working on Baron and Vilemaw.
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Yea i didnt even think about that, its said in the show itself that Boba Fett happens 5 years after return of the jedi so, Vader is long dead (Unless he somehow returns like another mysterious individual did : //////// ). Yea honestly thats really ass, what they even intend to do with her now is completely beyond me, i guess Luke really cant get a rest, first the sequels uh "change him" and even this retcon does really put him down.

Only role i really cant stand is adc because i am incredibly left handed, so doing a lot of auto attacking and movement in general with my right hand is really tedious. Really not sure how that would work, hmm, just as an example it could maybe uh, be some very cheezy strat on Ornn where his W would do increased %Max health damage with additional crit, maybe something like 100% crit = 33% max? Originally was gonna say 100% = 50%max but with those numbers there is absolutely no doubt after 2 items ornn would buy 3 crit cloaks and just run around with them bonking people for 38.5% max health on each W, which is kinda far too much to be fair.

Yea i think he is really fun to play and i absolutely love his ult from a lore perspective, but from gameplay perspective i think his ult is for sure among top 10 worst designed ones in game. Cause if you win a 1v1 already, you will win it for sure now and there isnt much the enemy can do, but if you got counterpicked by Jax for example, if you ult him you just locked yourself in a cage and there is not much you can do. Hmmm, assuming that there was one darkin imprisoned in each major region, he could be from Demacia or Freljord, because well Rhaast was in Noxus, Varus in Ionia and Aatrox was locked in Shurima im pretty sure, i dont think they would make the darkin from Demacia since they are already overwhelmed with problems and its also very unlikely they would keep a darkin weapon around, Freljord on other hand i can see him perhaps being buried somewhere in the middle of nowhere, could be cool if perhaps he had no option but to possess a monster rather than a human, maybe a troll or something? That would also make that darkin unique from the other ones since, Aatrox doesnt really have a host, Rhaast and Kayn are kinda coexisting as rivals while Varus is the closest to a Darkin actually coming back fully, sooooo maybe that could be the twist for this one? Well there is no void mommy on [email protected] yet BUT there is a new batch of high noon skins, and man, the Mordekaiser one slaps so hard, the vfx and sfx in game are sick, definetely my favourite skin of the year for now.

Although they are loot boxes, i think they are completely fine because it was actually impossible to get skins for free before them, 95% of skins i got since boxes got introduced were free, and yea uh someone also did test the value thingy out, in conclusion it turned out you almost always get at least a bit more value than you would normally, you'd have to get really unlucky to actually get ripped off by them so i do think they were overall a great addition. Ohhhhh that sounds like an amazing way to turn the skinline into something real, especially works great with Rell since she is already the primary "rebel" sort of champion, can honestly really easily imagine how her skin would look too, really like the idea, along with Rell id also likely add Renata and Swain as the opposite side of the coin, the two of them perhaps being the leaders of the two strongest rival factions in the galaxy. I mean just imagine Swain ult is him transforming into a giant robotic demon-bird, that would be so good!

Yea i think the things that should be changed most are, W can be completely changed alongside the spires, and E i would maybe just try to give it a bit more of a gameplay, i like the idea of how it works, but perhaps id make it a more damaging and faster spell, but to compensate for that i would maybe add a slow charge-up time for it similarly to Vi's Q, maybe make it so that it could also be canceled by enemy hard cc, adds a bit more gameplay while still keeping the same essence of it.

Yea more or less, if Anivia was more focused on combat rather than Freljord itself she would be essentially the same thing, even still though i think he only has a slight advantage of course. Great great! I had really big trouble in the past trying to make his splash work but now he looks amazing. Added things for both of them and will try finishing Akshan and Taliyah today, Soraka too maybe but not sure. Mkay, you just tell me when you are done with them. Edit:Taliyah and Akshan done.
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I'm just kind of over Ahsoka. She was great in Clone Wars, but she's just overstayed her welcome. And Luke... gah, they really screwed him up. He never felt like Luke there and I've stayed mostly spoiler free on the Disney+ stuff, so I can't weigh in much there.

I'm just bad at combos and the mid-lane gives me anxiety, lol. I'm not either. Maybe the crit could work to power their abilities scaling? I'm really not sure how to pull it off, but it just came to me as a strange idea that could be a cool concept to work around. Maybe tie it into some kind of drunken fist-style martial artist?

Yeah, that ult is such a wet fart to me. Like either it's a straight kill or you've slightly delayed your demise. Maybe they could make it his Q instead and it would be good for keeping people in his orbit? And then his Q could be reworked into the ult? That was we're kind've doubling down on the area denial/orbit gameplay angle. Hmm, that's a hard one to pick where to draw them from. As you've said, Demacia has enough going around right now (although now I'm thinking of Darkin Poppy because hammer has been a slumbering Darkin this whole time). Freljord could work, but technically Aatrox is connected with them due to Tryndamere's lore, but it would def be preferable to Demacia. A Bilgewater Darkin could be cool and that region needs champs. Maybe it could be a Buhru that became disaffected with Nagakaboros? I saw the new High Noon skins! I actually really like them, ngl, although it's another lost chance for a Rell skin! She rides a horse! Horses are synonymous with that setting and she could be like a former underling of HN Hecarim or something.

Yeah, no, Riot did their boxes right. I've always felt like they were worth the RP and the fact you could earn them and keys just by playing really helped. And that's good to know! I could 1000% see Swain working as a kind of Odin-like figure (as all the Goauld pretend to be gods) and that would be freaking awesome. I'm not sure exactly how Renata might work in the setting, but it'd be awesome. Maybe she leads the free races or something with an iron fist while "protecting" them from the rival factions. Akshan could work really well as Rell's lieutenant as well.


I'm not sure what to replace the W with, although I love idea for the E having more of a charge up to it. It'd also really reflect a scorpion's striking style. I like it. Oh, maybe the W could still give him a barrier or something while he throws up crystals around him while creating a fairly small pull radius around him like Diana's w? It'd help synergize with the ult, but idk.

True, Anivia's more the nurturing mother that just wants to see her kids succeed while Voli's the big burly dad that'll beat you up for even trying to mess with his kids while still trying to get the kids to be like him. And Ornn's the uncle everyone likes, except for papa Voli who has a strained relationship with his brother. Akshan looks great! And Taliyah just needs sand manipulation to be perfect! Vilemaw's mostly done, so do you mind looking over him? I know he's supposedly a god, but with Maokai being on par with him makes it hard to justify t3 unless I move our tree friend up as well (which isn't too crazy) I'd probably need to adjust Malphite and Galio accordingly as well. Nashor's coming along more slowly. I think he's t3 or maybe low t4 due to the fact he has a constellation (The Scourge). What do you think?
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Well, in Disney+ Luke is fairly good and what one would expect but, he feels kind of ill fitting for the series, 2 random episodes in middle of Boba Fett after all that have nothing to do with him or even the planet of Tatooine in the slightest, so, eh.

Mhm i see i see, yea thats fair. Hmmmm, one way it could maybe work and for the character to still be a bruiser/tank is that, perhaps the champion cannot get any extra health similar to Pyke, BUT, Crit gives them a %damage reduction thing, 50% damage reduction on 100% crit does sound pretty fine, would be more of a bruiser but i dont think we want a tank to be critting people for any meaningful damage. Oh and also to stop some cheezy shit such as stacking crit cloaks to get a lot of damage reduction early game, i would make it so that the damage reduction scales on levels too. What i mean by that is at level 1, 100% crit chance would give only 20% damage reduction, and then with levels it would scale to 50% or maybe even 60% at level 18. I think with that system it could work on the said drunken fist-style champ, who i would assume would be an Ionian, or maybe more interestingly, it could be an Ionian that defected and joined Noxus, since we dont really have that sort of a champion rn

Hmmm, while i do like idea, i think without his current Q Morde would be too weak in 1v1's cause it is by far his highest damage spell, even if its fairly low CD not having it till level 6 would be brutal as hell into any aggressive lane. Honestly i dont really know what id change on him without technically reworking him again, i would say that after Mundo he is the least succesful rework gameplay wise (Cause lore and appearance wise it slaps). The Buhru idea sounds pretty good yea, plus kinda would be unexpected and cool to see a darkin from bilgewater, i mean i didnt even register them as a region when i was thinking about it before so yea. Oh yea absolutely, especially since Leona already gets a horse in her skin so they did have that in mind, and tbf, i think Rell could absolutely rock an outfit thats similar but different to HN Senna's. Yea she could be HN Hecarim's underling, or what i think might be a bit better overall is. Now that Mordekaiser is kinda the main demon that essentially controls the railroad to hell, Rell could be his bounty hunter of sorts that comes to collect people who have somehow escaped from his grasp or even hell itself, i think it could work really well cause Rell could use a more evil skin but more importantly, i really want her to have a horse thats made in a similar manner to Mordekaiser's mace, i can already imagine how good her W could look as she transforms into the more metalic look while steam bursts out of the said metalic parts.

Yea Akshan can always pull the slightly lighthearted sidekick role in any skinline, in this one included. (Plus he ALSO really needs a new skin)

Hmmm, perhaps i would lean Skarner overall into the type of champion that has to pick their fights more smartly, what i mean by that in W's case is, i would still leave it as sort of a shield. But maybe now the shield starts off very weak along with the speedamp he gets, but if he can keep charging it it gets stronger as more crystals appear over his body. HOWEVER, i would 100% make it so that the speedbuff only works when he is moving towards enemy champions, and i would even make it so that he is slowed when he is running away, cause well he would in my version just grow a lot of crystals all over his body, both makes sense he would be slowed and since it would just be a stronger version of the base ability it needs more drawbacks.

Yeap, honestly now i crave a really comedic comic between the three of them when they were on bit better terms, perhaps it could happen at the time the freljord was just getting "formed" by them, that way it could both bring us interesting lore while also just being wholesome fun between the three of them. Thanks thanks, about Vilemaw and all that, everything about him looks great and im really happy to see a long history for him, only part that reads a bit weird is "It has great physical strength as well as magical", more specifically the "magical" part, since just "magic" would likely be better there imo. As far as tier 3 is concerned, all of those would likely need to go up along, and i do think it is fine cause there are already some reasonings for it anyways, best example would be that we know that large structures of petricite can absorb/nullify magic from Morgana and Kayle (As Sylas was able to absorb their magic from the palace walls in the comic meaning it had to be succesfully absorbed back when they fought in demacia, the two of them were probabably somewhat weaker back then, Kayle more so but i dont think enough to matter.) so Galio as the greatest petricite creation should be able to replicate things at an at least vaguely similar level. I would 100% leave them at lower levels of tier 3 though, definetely dont think any of them could match up to the stronger t3's. Oh i didnt even think about that, yea i think its fine if he is tier 4 as long as he is not close to Viego, Bard and co. Oh and everything currently on Baron's profile looks great!

Edit: Done with Soraka, might go request some of my group of sentinel/ruined champs now, gonna also finish Fiddle, Nasus and all of them till they get released ofc but not today. Edit 2: Ornn is all done too now, and do have to say after re-reading them, the tales of ornn are still most definetely my favourite piece of freljord lore and almost any league lore.
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Ugh, gross. I honestly wouldn't mind a series about Luke after Return of the Jedi with him maybe trying to strike out and put a stop to various Imperial holdouts. I'd also prefer it being animated so we don't have to see that awful CGI again.

Okay, yes that could work quite well. And just having it be a flat number like that would make it decently easy to balance too. Idk how well the number would work out, but maybe some of their abilities would scale off of their bonus health to try to encourage them towards a tanky bruiser build? And I like the idea of an Ionian defector! Maybe s/he had always seen themself as being the strongest/best of their martial art and felt squandered by their order and when Noxus showed up they jumped at the opportunity to join a group they identified with. Maybe work in some kind of gluttonous urges/other vices and we have a solid enough character concept!

Yeah, no, I have no idea how to fix Morde without completely overhauling him again and I quite like his current form both aesthetically and lore-wise. I just wish I was smart enough to devise a way to make him less boom or bust balance-wise because he's so freaking cool. Yeah, Bilgewater does not have a very good variety of champs and an expansion on it would be nice. And a second Buhru champ that rejected their teachings and becomes an arch-rival to Illaoi would be a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, damn, I love the steam idea and having Rell as Morde's bounty hunter could be pretty tight and a good break away from her traditional role. HNG has honestly grown on me quite a bit over the years. It's a fun universe.

Oh, now that's a fun idea to discourage it from being useful as an escape tool. Maybe it's just weaker (like 50-75%) of a speed buff when not going after champs so it's still useful for repositioning, but still isn't gonna guarantee an escape? Or maybe when the shield breaks it gives you the speed buff, like he's suddenly become unburdened?

It could also introduce some of the other members of the family, as there's supposed to at least be the Boar as well. I fixed that part of Vilemaw. It was from the wiki and I hadn't read over it as well as I should have, so thanks for catching it! Moving them up to 3 puts em in the same ballpark as Kayle, but still not quite on the same level, so it should be fine. I put Baron at 4 and he comes in right at 10k, so he's still nowhere near Viego or Thresh, but still a big enough threat that Demacia and Noxus would want to steer clear, so I think all that leaves is a brief bio for him, which I'll write a lil later.

Soraka looks absolutely perfect, not a thing to change on her. Only thing I'd add to Ornn is weapon creation. I highly anticipate Susan so I can scale Renekton and Xerath to him :). Oh, I put in a request for Ruined MF and Shyv as well as the LoLAU.
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Yea that would work, and tbf the post return of the jedi era is something i would like to get a show on, more specifically it being focused on Luke himself. Dont know how much the comics go into it but i did always want to know more about it.

Mhm, essentially just that, a fairly self centered person that saw an opportunity in Noxus and took it, especially like the order stuff you mentioned, adds a lot of flavour.

Yeee so do i chief, so do i... Yeeea now that you mention it, Bilgewater could be the region with least variety? There is still some of course due to Tahm, Naut and whonot but most champs seemigly fit into the MF-GP ordeal. Same same, i do also thing that HNG might be among the most consistent skinlines overall, the only skin i could say i really dislike is High Noon Irelia, and the only reason for that is that i find her blades also being partial revolvers is just stupid as all hell, besides that pet peeve i have the skin is fairly good itself.

Oh i like the unburdened idea, especially if it can either get broken by enemies or broken by skarner himself, that way it doesnt need to be a charge up spell while it can still be a choice sorta deal for him, i like that yea.

I am quite suprised that Riot hasnt given us essentially any extra info on the other siblings, maybe with the Udyr rework they go more into them? Ah i see i see, well yea he looks great, and so do all 3 of them, none of them are too high or low. 10k was just about where i imagined he should be too so absolutely no complaints from me, gonna keep an eye out for the bio and etc ofc.

Annnd changed, thanks for the help ofc! I will focus on doing Susan tommorow, barely changes my plans anyways since i only planned to do Fiddle before him but ye. Like the description for the LoLAU you made, pretty cool, and ah i see, yea well hopefully both mine and yours get accepted at around the same time then
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From what I'm aware of for the Star Wars comics that Marvel has come out with, they've all been pretty focused on the post ep3 and pre ep4 content. Including at least 3 separate comics focused purely on Darth Vader and all named the same thing. I know they've done the Bounty Hunter comics too, but I think that's set after ep5. :/

That champ would add some nice variety to Noxus's line up as well.

I think Bilgewater's problem is they're not thinking outside of the box enough with the whole pirate/crime motif. I think now would be a good time to introduce an actual good-aligned champ that wants to dethrone MF and turn the city into a pirate republic of some sort. Maybe they could draw influence from East Asian piracy? I do think a few of the High Noon skins haven't aged as well, but they're all pretty good. And yeah, HN Irelia's FFVIII pistol/swords look stupid. They could've made them like bowie knives or maybe tomahawks to fit the theme without being silly.

Oooooh, yes, I like that. It'd add some good nuance to the ability and make it fit his dual role as both a bulky character and a speedy character without having him be both simulataneously.

I'll assume we'll get some info on the Boar (who's apparently named Ildhaurg) with his update at the very least. Maybe we'll get the sabretooth tiger/wildclaw (Vihaurg) one too. Actually, if they wanted to be creative, there are apparently 9 Freljordian demigods, so maybe when you unlock an ability you choose which of two to be the patron (idk, just spit balling)? I put a bio for Baron that kind've condenses the history we know of him. I would legit appreciate a bio for all the major neutral monsters, ngl.

Ornn looks great! I cannot believe how close we are to finishing this, so cool! Oh good, I'm happy you like it. I think it helps set up the nature of that part of the lore. And yeah, I hope we get those all at about the same time. I'm excited for Ruined Shyv, she looks so freakin cool!
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Hmmm i see i see, wouldnt know myself but thanks for the info, out of SW read only one Vader comic and a comic that delves into the ancient sith era (dont know if thats the name but generally just stuff with Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh). All things considered they were both pretty good but i do most definetely prefer the clone wars and prequels era the most.

Hmmm yea that could be nice, while MF is fairly good as a leader and most definetely an upgrade over GP, there could definetely be someone trying to push for that republic angle, i think it could be worked in especially well if we fuse some of the ideas and make him/her a Buhru captain that abandoned the Buhru teachings, perhaps s/he is finally acting up now because of the entire Ruined MF thingy, so to stop the de-facto leader of Bilgewater from getting corrupted in the future wants to radically change the entire system, sounds like a very workable idea id say. I mean ye some of the older ones like HN Yasuo havent really aged that well, both cause skin is old but also because he REALLY doesnt fit into what HN as a universe has evolved into. As far as i am concenred make them throwing daggers or virtually anything else, rare are things i wouldnt prefer over "gun-blades".

Yea there is supposed to be a whole lot of them, but, barely any info on what they even are (The only thing i know is that someone has been making a theory that Aatrox killed the Boar, no idea why though.). And i mean possible? Perhaps they could make it so that Udyr has 2 sets of abilities similar to Jayce and Elise, but in his case the 3 basic abilities will be drawing powers from the "less powerful" siblings, and after ulting he will gain access to Voli, Ornn and Anivia's stances, doubt they will go for that and i do much prefer the choice approach you mentioned but yeeee. Love the history for Baron, really nicely done! And i mean same, hell id love if we could get lore on the elemental drakes and elder drake, oh and especially Kadregrin, that would be lovely.

Yeeap, only a couple more to update, and then the sentinels/ruined skins and the main canon is essentially over, honestly really suprised by how fast we did it. Mhm she does she does, i think she could've easily been the best Ruined champ if they used her more in the event.
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I honestly preferred when Dark Horse ran the SW comics. Dark Times, Legacy, Knights of the Old Republic, etc... all great titles that got away from the established SW universe while expanding the canon.

That's something I've never really understood about Bilgewater being essentially a dictatorship. Very against the historical pirate persona. Maybe the pirate republic person had been biding their time to prove that the dictatorial system doesn't work and with MF's corruption, this is finally the time. I actually really like the Buhru angle as then maybe we could pull in some more Polynesian angles to their design. Yeah, HN Yas was from the time before they really made the lines have lore. I will say I don't mind his gun-blade specifically because if they updated, they could make it a literal air gun, which is fun. But, yeah, I'd say eliminate the majority of the gunblades. There are so many more old west weapons than revolvers.

The ult thing could work if it functioned like maybe Elise's or Nidalee's. Excrpt maybe while he's transformed his mana is draining, so thwt way he can't hust keep with the more powerful abilities. I prefer the choice idea because then he'd be more flexible and you'd have to choose what works best in the current match. Like Udyr's a cool idea, but the current execution is so bad. Okay, good, happy you like it! Even if they just wanted to throw a couple paragraphs out there about them it'd be great. If they wanted to have fun with it, they could frame them as entries in Teemo's scout journal.

Yup, we're super close. LoLAU got rejected for some reason. I'll try again later. I did like getting to see Shyv fight Senna, Vayne and Lucy, but yeah she needed to do more.
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Wouldnt really know myself since only read the old ones, and naturally they were pretty good, but i have heard disney did make a lot of the old stuff not canon.

Yeeeap, we only really have illaoi fulfilling that boat and it has been quite a while since she got released, i think it would be really cool if the buhru captain was also a very old person, would make sense for them to support the republic option quite a bit that way since they would be around from even before GP originally took over, plus, we really dont have that many old champions. Not counting gods or those that dont really age, we only really have Swain, Renata and technically Camille. I dont mind his gunblade either, its, uh "edgy" but in same manner as Samira's fairly large sword is, all things i dont mind it at all but the skin is just old. Others for sure yea, if it was by me all would be removed, and yea i mean, it would be really nice if we got a HN Cait skin where she is using a old Winchester rifle or something similar, with perhaps a bit of a demonic flair to it to explain her abilities.

Yeap yeap, thats exactly what i meant, or well everything besides the mana thing, i more so thought of it as just having a fairly short but notable cooldown, something like 30-40 seconds, that way its available for every fight but he also cant use it more than once per fight, would make it so he really needs to choose when he wants to rush in. Either way yea i think the combo thing works better. I mean yea uh, right now he is just a guy that runs really fast with 4 flavors of autos, 2 of them being damage, 1 defensive (very shit defense : /) and then the last is the almigthy bear slap, Udyr is likely the most outdated desing in the game right now, only way he can ever be playable if his numbers are through the roof. Yea, honestly kinda suprised they havent expanded on the entire teemo thing, thought they would do stuff with him due to the yordle cinematics and yorldes being very important in LoR for a while.

Quite quite, i just got done with Susan too, please do tell if ive overdone absolutely anything on there. Huh, really? Well thats unfortunate, i did get some of my request rejected in the past, more specifically when i tried requesting more than one form of a character at the same time but yea. Yea it was cool, but her appearing in demacia for only a bit and then only in shadow isles at end, kinda disappointing all things considered
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I legit don't understand why Disney just flushed the entire established canon. Sure there was some bad stuff in there, but there was so much cool things in there. And I can sort of understand the post episode 6 stuff going away, but I would've preferred a streamlined and reimagined Yuuzhan Vong than the First Order being the main villains.

Actually an older male would be a great juxtaposition to Illaoi, especially seeing as Buhru culture is Matriarchal. Maybe he's a captain of a ship that was part of the old pirate republic order and fled when they lost out to GP. Then he started building his own alliance to take back Bilgewater, but he'd gained some hope when MF took over and now with her Ruination, he's decided enough is enough. Actually he could work as the Darkin supp host. Like he agreed to be the host in exchange for the Darkin's power to free Bilgewater. And once he's done that, he would release control to the Darkin as part of the bargain? Oh yeah, we need a lever action rifle in LoL stat! It'd be fun too if we ever got a whip user they could be using a lasso for their HN skin. I do really like the direction they've taken with the line having the demonic/angelic forces intermixed with the steam punk western aesthetics.

I'm always just spit ballin ideasYeah, Udyr's design has just shown it's age. And, yeah when I used to play him in norms the turtle was the one I put points in last because it was so weak. I'm surprised by that too. Honestly, I would buy a physical copy of Teemo's scout journal that was just supposed to be his notes on everything he had scouted out on Runeterra. Like there are the very official entries that provide lore in a report to the Yordle council (or whatever their ruling body is) and the margins are just filled with his observations. That'd be a lot of fun.

Susan looks great, although I think I'd think about adding heat generation to him, but that's 100% up to you. He's exactly where I'd expect him to be, a bit above Baron so you could see him fighting the Void successfully, but not too high as to make it look like he couldn't lose. I'll use him as a guide for Renekton and Xerath, although I think Renekton should probably be a bit lower just because his abilities are a little less varied. Yeah, it's okay, Ruined GP and Thresh Unbound got rejected initially as well, so I'll focus up on finishing up the ones I've got submitted and try again with the next batch. I will say I'm very interested to find out what happened to those that were ruined after wards. Like was Shyv able to return to her post? How did Swain and Darius react to Draven's fall? I don't think Karma should be the leader of Ionia now either. Just stuff like that.
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Yeeeeeeea no idea either, i mean Riot has reworked its lore too several time but considering Ryze was an orphan from "Magi's Academy for Unpleasant Boys" there is definetely much more of a reason than anything Disney has. And yea tbf would've much prefered the first order as the villain along with a cameo from the Yuuzhan Vong, i think killing Snoke early and even Rey beating Kylo in episode 7 already kinda made the villains not really something to think about too much, considering well, one is dead and other was beat in the first movie... And episode XII would've legit been better if it had no villain at all, compared to reviving Sheev.

Yea that could be a unique way to do both a darkin and a bilgewater champ, honestly think he would be probably the best possible champ release to push the bilgewater story further, cause right now it does need it since after all is said and done in the ruination event everything has seemingly returned to normal, well i guess MF and others are aware that GP is still alive but thats about it. We do technically have HN Thresh as the lasso user but id be a liar if i said i liked that skin at all, i think his horns are cool but thats the only nice thing i can say about it. Dont really know who else could be a lasso user though, thought Sej originally but a morningstar flail that she can set aflame would be much better cause she needs something a bit more hefty. Bristle could also be turned into a half flaming Bison since he is too bulky to be a horse.

Whelp, hopefully it wont take much longer for Udyr to get his well deserved glowup, the only thing i really dont want to see is Riot giving him a dash, i think that would be one of the most ill-fitting things they could add to his kit. Yep yep, maybe the other yorldes could also have small pieces of their own reports added into the book, and naturally Lulu would have an expansive list of all the times she and rock hung around!

Thanks a lot for checking around, always kinda worried when im updating my favourite profiles cause i dont want to overrate them, oh and added your suggestion but as low level only. Yea yea, The Croc should be a bit lower, after all he is only a bit stronger in base stats but other than that Nasus has him beat. Funnily enough the first time i requested the original verse page for League it also got rejected, forgot but memory got jogged rather suddenly, but yea best to just focus on the ruined/sentinels and then try again after. Ooooooh, i didnt even think about that but that could be the most interesting part of the entire event, Shyvana would likely be in quite a bad situation, making a fuss in the middle of demacia just after Sylas's rebelion would probably cause her to get exiled or imprisoned i imagine. And yea just, i would love to see any of it, even just a random interaction about Darius asking Draven if he is okay while being clearly worried would be plenty, ofc i would most like to see what happens with Karma and Shyvana cause both of their regions would also change a lot with them, Demacia could be even more paranoid now that a bunch of magical mist invaded their city like it was nothing and Ionia would likely stand quite a bit more with Irelia, then of course we also figure out what is going on with two of them in specific and boom, great possible stories to be made. Edit: Just checked out of curiosity and it seems the ruined and sentinel champs i requested also got rejected, i guess i will wait a day or something before again.
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Oh yeah, the old lore for League is weak. The fields of justice idea was neat, but other than that... Yeah, the First Order was just really lame. I think if they had gone the direction that they were like an insurgent type order with Snoke saying he was the reincarnation of the Emperor could've worked, but the implementation we got was so lame. And yeah, resurrecting Plapatine and only really explaining it in Fortnite was definitely a decision.

I've always kinda hated the return to status quo that we get from comics and, in this case, league. Bilgewater is really starved for champs and now's a great time to implement them. I really like the Buhru Elder Darkin we've created and I feel like we could possibly fit another champ in there as maybe a mage/marksman hybrid that draws some inspiration from current day piracy. Like they're more of a representation of the more ramshackle kind of piracy that uses whatever they can get their hands on and uses a lot of home-made/stolen hextech/chemtech devices. Idk, just spitballin again. Oh, yeah, you're right. I completely forgot about about HN Thresh, lol. Oooo, I like that Sejuani idea a hell of a lot. Maybe she could be riding a demonic bull or something she tamed? Udyr's another good pick for the setting as they could draw some (respectful) parallels to native american beliefs for his forms.

They seem to be pretty far along with it, as I think they said they had the base skin 100% done and they were working on the skins now, so maybe it'll be a mid-late May release? And, uh, yeah, he don't need a dash. I think sticking to making his kit AA-focused is best. Although, I'm imagining him with a skill shot and a wall run πŸ˜‚. Oh, I love this idea. Like Lulu insists Rock is super important and maybe we discover that because Lulu keeps hanging out with Rock that it's slowly becoming aware.

No problem, I always worry about that too. Especially with the MtG characters, which I have been very conservative with (one of my friends has been telling me to raise some of their tiers, for example). I think I have Renekton done, although he's coming in a little lower than expected, as I was expecting him to hit 10-11k. Any recommendations on things I might've missed? I think people forget to look that we're adding variants and just see that the normal character's already in. Add in that they aren't as aware of the lore... Yeah, those are the most likely outcomes, although I wonder if JIV might try to allow her to regain her status in like a suicide mission or something seeing as he has a soft spot for her. I could possibly see Swain gain interest in Draven as a possibility for extra power, maybe leading to him seeking some type of alliance with Thresh to gain that power? I think this is a great jump off point to explore those stories in Ionia. I wonder what Zed was doing the whole time too? Laaaame. I'd say just rerequest em soon and they'll get in no problem. I did put a couple of the sentinels in as requests as "Sentinel of Light" so we'll see if that makes a difference.
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Yea that would've been much better, cause right now First Order is just a worse version of The Empire, and then it only got worse since technically the final movie was just The Empire again.

Mhhhhm, its the same reason why i really like Sylas's lore, he really changed things up and progressed Demacia as a whole, he might be the champ that has progressed the lore most so, Viego should have been the one but, as is, the only real change he has created is that he lost, Vayne is now a Sentinel, and Pantheon lost his celestial powers, annnnd besides that nothing on an actual big scale of things, not yet at least. Yea someone who is pretty crafty and able to use whatever they can get their hands on, could make for a really interesting kit with parts of it being magical abilities and other parts being hextech and similar gear. Maybe if they are to be a mage they could be an adventurous elemental mage from Ixtal that wandered alone through the forest as they really wanted to check if everything outside of Ixtal was really destroyed, but as the journey was pretty hard s/he was essentially at death's door by the time they reached the shore, which is where the Buhru captain would come in to save and recruit them after some distrust from both. To make that champ different from Qiyana perhaps s/he is extremely untalented at all type of elemental magic besides water magic, cause i mean we dont really have a water champ in league yet AND, having a pirate that controls water is always cool. Could also add into the dynamic of the Buhru and the Ixtal person as maybe the water magic is the main reason why he allowed him/her to join the crew originally, and then over time they became quite good and very loyal friends sorta deal. Idk perhaps went a bit too far but just seeing a water controlling pirate would be dope as hell, maybe even make it so they are missing a part of their arm or something due to being stung by something in the jungle, that could be where a hextech/chemtech arm comes in quite handy! (I had to). Yeap yeap, perhaps in lore she could be a human that dislikes both angels and demons, and attempts to do her best to remove both, dunno really but ye. Oh, he could look great as a shaman sorta ordeal, a little idea that could work is that, perhaps he could have various war paints covering his body, and whenever he enters a stance parts of the war paint glow up, and when he combines them even more of them glow up naturally, of course he would partially transform into the animal too but i think the war paint could add quite a lot to the appearance.

Ye could be could be. Oh hell no, an Udyr wallrunning while partially looking like a bear would be terrifying, i do think adding a skill shot to him could be a pretty good idea tho, Ye ye, perhaps at the end the rock becomes more or less fully sentient, so to show him around the world Lulu enlarges herself and carries the new rock friend on her shoulder, or maybe she shrinks him so he can fit on her shoulder, either way would be lovely.

Yeeeeeeeea, completely understand what you mean alright, although havent had anyone tell me to increase any stats yet, but alas. Same really, it is a bit odd to see him at less than 10k, i guess you could add low level statistics reduction because his empowered E does lower resistances but thats about the only thing i can think off, oh and naturally he looks great, well done! Yea probably, cause truth be told the "version" letters are a bit small, kinda easy to miss them. I think the next progression in Demacia's journey should be Jarvan having a bit of an internal struggle about mages, both due to his fathers wishes and Shyvana, maybe especially as Mageseekers are constantly forcing him to execute Shyvana which he doesnt quite want to do, could add a lot of good lore to J4. Mhm, especially since Thresh is in Noxus at the moment. Zed? Nobody knows i guess... Hmmmm, whelp if you say so il go get to requesting them rn, and yea i will make sure to use your name for the sentinels, maybe makes a difference, maybe not.
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I will never understand the final movie's decision to just bring back the Emperor. Like, I get it, he's kind of the arch-villain of the franchise, but they could've done something much cooler. Like, I dunno bring in the Galaxy Gun. Or... I legit don't know how to fix IX without redoing VIII too.

Sylas definitely injected some much needed intrigue/conflict into Demacia and I really hope whenever he gets introduced into LoR that we can get his lieutenants. Ohhhh, I like that idea of the water mage teaming up with our Darkin Republican. There's definitely a lot that can be done with an offensive water mage and maybe they use their tech arm as an accelerator that helps them actually project their water attacks. Like maybe there's an aperture in the palm that can be squeezed to increase the water pressure that can be used to reduce an opponent's armor. There's a lot of potential there for maybe bringing in some elements from the Serpent Callers as well. I really like this little rebel republican crew we're building that mixes and matches parts from different cultures, which I think makes them quite unique. Oh, that'd fit Sejuani's character really well! Maybe the flail could be something she fashioned from angelic weaponry so we have a visual indicator that she's using the tools of both to fight both for the sake of humanity. Oh, damn, I like that war paint idea! That'd really help the skin stand out from his other skins. Maybe he could have gloves or something that manifest the characteristics of the spirits he's channeling so we can still very clearly see war paint. Maybe his hair could change to reflect the spirits as well to reference war bonnets without just slapping them on a normally Caucasian character.

I would assume late May at the earliest, but I can dream. Actually the skill shot thing might not be too bad for his Anivia transformation. Like when you first activate the skill it does something. Like maybe Voli's could produce a brief electrical burst upon switching to it but then we need actual cool down times to make it balanced. And yeah, wall dash Udyr would be both cursed and terrifying. I think I like Rock willingly being shrunk so he can go on trips with Lulu and help her find their way back to the Glade. And everyone else, especially Trist, thinks Lulu has just developed another imaginary friend.

I got him right up to 10k with your suggestion and moving a couple of skills up a notch. I'm happy enough with where he ended up and thank you for your assistance. I've started work on Xerath and I hope to finish him up tomorrow. *edit* I think Xerath's done. JIV having to pick between his loyalty would definitely be a good narrative place to go for him, especially if we get the Mageseeker general introduced as a champ. It might be a good chance to have a player led poll/event to pick which way he falls with either Shyvanna getting her chance and the Mageseeker going rogue or the Mageseeker exiling Shyv who then joins Sylas. I can definitely see Swain willing to work out a deal with Thresh in exchange for Thresh getting to ply his trade unmolested. I feel like Zed would be super interested in the Mist as it is essentially wet shadows... I've upvoted them, so we'll see how this goes.
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Yea i mean, true, but honestly they did kinda write themselves into a corner, since well Snoke died leaving absolutely no villain we could care for. BUT, i would rather have Hux reveal himself to be a sith lord than for them to do what they did, at least in "the Hux scenario" episodes I-VI wouldnt get a bit soured by well, making the ending of VI and Anakin's entire journey a bit worse.

Sounds good, oh maybe the water mage would also have some interactions with the river? Perhaps would move faster in it similarly to how Taliyah can slide on her rock or maybe even his/her abilities would be empowered with some extra effect/bigger range, only part of that idea i dont like is that Ocean Map would make the champ a bit stronger which is something that completely relies on RNG, but eh, that kinda already happens for most champions anyways. (Because lord knows i hate seeing infernal soul when im playing ornn). An angelic flail and Bristle can be a demonic bull or whatnot, perhaps we can even have Sejuani team up with HN Udyr as two of them being humans fighting against demons/angels, Sej just using their weapons while Udyr empowers himself through them, think it would be a pretty cool combo since they are already very connected in lore. Like both the hair and the glove/gauntlet idea quite a bit, honestly if anyone can fit the bill of a shaman champion then its for sure Udyr, he is technically one in current lore already, got so much more things on mind that could be added to the skin but, i know for damn well it cant all fit on a single kit.

If i had to guess for all 3 of the main ones, id assume Voli's would perhaps rain lighting in a small range around Udyr and then his auto's would have the same electric effect as Volibear passive does. For Ornn he could maybe breathe fire for his ability while his auto's do minor damage over time with him becoming more tanky over time as he gets covered in more hardened lava, and Anivia can be him throwing a giant icycle that stuns briefly if hit, however only the first champ hit gets stunned while the other get slowed slightly, auto's could maybe slow both himself and the target, that way its a bit more interesting than just another Ashe passive, although ofc the target he is hitting would be slowed for more than himself. Lol ye, especially cause only Lulu can hear Rock but over time she would try convincing all of them, i imagine Corki would likely believe it first.

Yea he looks amazing, also really like the LoR image you picked, couldnt make them work myself back in the days, looks amazing now tho. Xerath looks great too, couldnt find absolutely anything you missed or something i would change so well done again! Ohhhh really like the player choice idea, honestly i would've really liked if they used that a lot more, even during Ruination id say it could've been a pretty good time but definetely here for Jarvan's and entire demacia case. We do need more mastermind type villains playing mind games with each other, havent had anything like it yet in league really, Thresh and Swain probably make the perfect fit for it anyways since its something they very much do normally. Yea, it would be nice to even just get a line telling us he is interested in it, Shen would likely be interested in it too but for completely different reasons, doubt he wouldnt try looking into something that corrupted both Karma and Ionia itself. Thanks a lot, seemingly they are all still there soo i guess going good.
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Yeah, the whole sequel trilogy is such a mess. And even just making Hux take over as a non-force powered villain could be cool. Maybe have him kick Kylo out and that's what forces him to join up with Rey and the New Republic forces to take him down. Idk, anything would've been better than pulpatine showing back up for no reason. And yeah, that really did make Anakin's whole journey pointless. So dumb!

Maybe there could be like a cool down reduction for her that makes her slightly better (like 0.5%) but doesn't make her just straight op. Like how when Jinx kills Cait/Vi (and vice-versa) they get an extra gold piece. That way it's still a buff, but nothing too gameplay changing. Those two forming up their own faction would really work into their personas and play up the Western ideal very well (independence and fighting against "the man"). Oh yeah, no, Udyr is a champ that's bursting with potential for skins. Now I want a Giant Enemy Udyr that manifests various kaiju for his stances or something...

All of those make good sense for his stances. Maybe there could be a mechanic where the longer he stays in a stance, the more powerful its AA effect becomes, but you're obviously not getting the benefit of rapidly switching through the stances to get their trigger effect? That way there's a bit more thought to his stance switching. Maybe there could be a downside to staying in the stance for too long as well, like he burns out of it and it goes on a 10 second cool down. Oh, yeah, Corki would def be the first one to believe her followed by Teemo saying he hears the voices of plenty of things in the environment and everyone just looks at him slightly uncomfortably.

Yeah, that image took a ton of fiddling to get it to work, ngl. I think I went through 15-20 minor variations before I finally got it to center properly. Cool, thanks for looking him over, it's always appreciated! They could frame it as JIV hearing from his advisors too, that way it's not just JIV being schizo. They could make the result work like the Cosmic Lux event that we still get the skins for each variation, but one is just non-canon. Yeah, there are a serious lack of mastermind types in LoL, as every region really should have one. I can see Thresh and Swain working very well together, each outwardly working together but trying to screw over the other. Thresh finds it cute while Swain is utterly serious about it. Oh, good point on Shen. I can see him wanting to analyze it so he could find a way to prevent a similar disaster from happening again. Yup, they seem to be sticking this time. And I'll always advocate for them if it comes to that.
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You know things are messed up when Hux is even considered as someone to take the role of the main villain. Let alone him being 10x better of an alternative.

Ah yea yea, more so a "nod" sort of ordeal rather than an actually impactful mechanic. (same as how any champion/skin with sunglasses takes 1 less damage from Leona or Lux). Mhm, would be great to see those two be connected in any skinline let alone the HN idea we got going, cause iirc i dont think they are connected in any single skinline. I can already imagine it, Udyr changing forms making his limbs and other parts fly off into distance only for new parts to replace them, or even just having his current limbs and whatnot completely transform into the neccessary gear, all with semi-cheezy dialogue akin to what Mecha Kingdoms Jax has.

All those sound like pretty good additions, especially the burnout mechanic, i guess Ornn would give the damage reduction, Voli would give a lot of ramping attack speed and Anivia's slow would get stronger and stronger. Mhm, and all of it would need to end with Tristana finally accepting Rock as part of their group, perhaps he could even get to do his part to help the group by falling on top of Veigar's head just when he thinks he defeated them all or something.

Ey still, looks amazing now, i do tend to sometimes also go really overboard with trying to find "the perfect image", so much so that in the end i decide to pick not even the best option of out of those i had. Mhm mhm, i guess for the variations there would be an "exiled Shyvana" and maybe some version of Jarvan with a different armor? Yea i do feel Thresh would get quite a kick of it, he has been stuck on the isles for a while, having someone like Swain that can even challenge him would definetely be a very welcome change of things for him, maybe he would even try making a bet with Swain, perhaps that would also be a very good time for them to explain how Swain exactly tricked Raum. Same as i will of course, but hey, as is hopefully we wont have to

Edit: I think im done with Azir, i do have to say while i love all of his LoR images, i hate trying to make them work here, either they are far too zoomed out or the angle is a bit ass. Buuut oh well... oh and half of the sentinels/ruined ones got released soooo, thats a big plus! Likely will handle Aatrox next to finish off Shurima for good.
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Yeah, he is just a really bland character. No real interesting motivation or anything. I always thought it would've been cool if each of the primary protagonists (Rey, Finn and Poe) had essentially a dark reflection of themself on the First Order side. Rey and Kylo kind've do this, but I think Phasma and Finn having an actual established relationship and having her be someone that rose through the ranks of the FO showing what Finn could've been. And then Poe and Hux are the opposites, maybe even having gone to school together. Idk, I just like my symmetry.

Yeah, I kind of prefer that so that they're still balanced, but it does theoretically make a difference. Now that you mention that, I don't think they are either... Maybe if we get an actual move forward in the Freljord lore we can see the two main factions in their war gear. Oh man, that would be freaking tight. Maybe draw some inspiration from Orga (who absorbs DNA for other kaiju) and give him kind of a lizard-like appearance. Maybe make him as a scientist that experimented on himself with kaiju DNA. That. Would. Be. Tight!

Those are all exactly what I'm thinking. It'd give him a good risk and reward system while still maintaining his AA focused play style. And after they've foiled Veigar once again, Rock gets a little hat and badge making him an official Bandle Gunner!

Yeah, it can be hard to find the right image, especially when the thing zooms in for no real reason for the upload. Exiled Shyv could work and maybe JIV gets a darker, more "serious" set of armor, showing him turning towards hardline positions. I'd imagine Xin would be incredibly broken by that turn of events. I would prefer for Swain to eventually out maneuver Thresh, who thinks it was all a good show, but it was also what he wanted the whole time. Man, a storyline of two masterminds playing chess against each other while outwardly working together would be so freaking cool!

Azir looks great, although I might add low level telekinesis because in his animations on LoR, he appears to be be able to lift things that aren't sand/earth with his mind. And yeah, his images look great in game, but not so much from the full image. Oh, yes, I saw they did. I'll get to work on them once I finish up the SotM characters. I also apologize for this taking so long. It has been a long couple of days.
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I think that could've worked, and would've most definetely made Hux and Phasma better as villains, it would also give some well deserved time to Finn and especially Poe cause honestly, eventhough he is supposed to be one of the three main, its more like Rey is the main one, Finn is the sidekick and Poe is, i guess Poe. At least thats how i always felt about it. Still in an ideal world, all 3 of them can have a match of with their counterpart in the end. Rey and Kylo shouldnt have fought before the 3rd movie or at least Rey should've lost pretty badly in episode VII. Finn vs Phasma was fine i guess but just really needed more time, and perhaps in episode IX Hux and Poe could have a battle where they both command their respective fleets, with Poe in the end getting into one of the fighters himself ofc.

Whelp, the Sej and Olaf story was pretty good setup for some actual Freljord lore advancment, i guess thats something at least, still, it is May and we still dont have anything about freljord or the void event really, kinda was expecting stuff by now tbh. Oh not that thing, getting flashbacks from the Godzilla game cause Orga was broken as shit there (or at least my kid self thought so, he was essentially unbeatable!) That aside though yea, for sure, we dont really have enough monstrous skins in league, having a semi-kaiju transformed Udyr that can channel more of its powers with stances would look pretty good.

All this just leads me to believe Rock should be added in LoR as a unit, perhaps a 0 cost 0/1 with tough? Either that or maybe it can be a part of a new Lulu spell, just a minor sideeffect with the same stats as a nod to him existing.

Yea that could work for Jarvan, perhaps if that ended up being the version maybe that would be Jarvan fully marching out with an army to finally crush the mage rebelion or whatnot. Mhm yea id say that would be the more ideal ending too, Swain winning because Thresh didnt take him too seriously but, in the end Thresh was hoping that would be the case. And yeeap, would be, essentially we get our own slight Game of Thrones but in league. (Had to mention it cause rewatching the series nowadays, the early seasons are so damn amazing)

Ah right right, yea nice job on catching that, gonna add it right now and then ship him out. I should probably get to some of the other series ive been procrastinating, iirc still have like 3 profiles for one to edit around, but well, Aatrox and others first while i wait for mine. Nah no worries at all, i am the type of guy to leave randomly for a week or so just cause im having well, a bad week, take as much time with responding as you need my dude, do get the feeling myself sometimes so i completely understand you but ye just no need to worry about it.
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Yeah, Phasma was definitely a waste of potential. I agree with Rey should've lost to Kylo or at the very least put up a good fight before being rescued with it being clear Kylo would've killed her. And Finn vs Phasma could've been a really cool moment if it turned the allegiance of the enslaved troopers finally breaking their brain washing with the defeat of their "hero." Oh damn, yeah, I'm imagining the fleet battle has come down to just the flag ships each is commanding and Poe gets into his fighter to deliver the final blow against the First Order's ship with Hux fleeing as it burns and Poe finally puts him down. That would've been so satisfying, especially if they tapped into the energy, if not the scale, of the opening of Episode 3.

Yeah, that's definitely setting up something. And I would've expected something about the Void event by now. Maybe Udyr/Sej/Olaf accidentally do something to release some of the Watchers that Voli's been watching over? That might do something to advance both plots. Oh, yeah, Orga is a monster in the Pipeworks games. Unfortunately he doesn't do much in his movie, but he's still such a cool kaiju that I want more of. But, yes, just having Udyr's skin like physically shift/grow kaiju parts would be so cool and something that they haven't really been playing with. Udyr's skins are generally pretty safe.

Oh yeah, those stats would definitely work. Maybe he could be a bonus on a cantrip style spell if you have a champion in play. That'd actually work really well in a Lulu deck.

Jarvan marching out with the troops to crush the rebellion could be a really cool time for the Void event to drop in on Demacia, catching both armies in the field and forcing them to form a temporary truce at least. Swain "winning" would work really well into Thresh's personality and could be a cool call back to how he totally lost in Ruined King. He has so much power now and him using it to play these incredibly layered Machiavellian plans would be so refreshing. Gonna fully admit I never got into GoT, although a bunch of my coworkers really loved it up until the last season.

I'd noticed Aatrox's image was being played with, but feel free to take your time like I have been. I think Ruined Shyv and MF are finished for the most part. I'll try to work on Sentinel Diana and Graves sometime tomorrow.
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I think it would be fine if Kylo got injured due to his hubris which allowed them to leave, but full out losing to someone who has never wielded a lightsaber before did definetely make him a bit of a pushover in my eyes, definetely made it so i doooont really see the point in their rivalship in later movies cause well, he already lost but yea... I think that could've been a very good moment, or even just having some of the troopers try to rebel themselves after seeing Finn fight with Phasma and all that. Considering what they could do in Episode 3 with the space battle, no doubt they could do much better now with all the funding and more years of experience, i mean the fight in Episode 9 was cool but just the concept for it sucked ass. Another thing i would really change in the movies is Luke's death, seeing his projection "fight" Kylo was really cool, but then seeing him die on the rock randomly cause of that left me quite "mind blown". I think if anything having him actually go there to fight Kylo and sacrifice himself in a Obi-Wan esque moment would've been much better. (Although i wouldnt be opposed to Luke living too, it would just be kinda weird to see him in episode 9, especially if the focus was on the 3 rivals fighting each other)

I can see that happening yea, Watchers being in the void event is essentially mandatory, aside from Icathia its more or less the most prominent the void has been in league. Perhaps the accidental thing that could happen is another fight between Ornn and Voli, since i imagine Voli would be quite enraged at being "betrayed" by anyone and especially Winter's Claw members, and Ornn could just want his cauldron back, along with making sure Voli doesnt do anything. Yeeeea Udyr's skins are really tame compared to what they could actually do with him, they could also make him mutate a bit out of control with him fully reverting back moments afterward, could be a way to visually signal that he messed up with how he handled the stances if we they do actually somehow go for the burnout angle on his stronger stances. And since we are talking about "evolving", the best skin to tie up with Udyr would maybe be a mecha Viktor sort of deal. Riot really needs to give him a legendary, and they could make his suit visibly change with each upgrade he does, as far as he himself goes i would either make him an extremely cheezy one liner machine like Super Galaxy Rumble, or i would comply dip into his more crazy side by making him someone who is completely and utterly determined to exterminate anything even remotely Kaiju related.

Yea yea, exactly the type of spell i had on mind.

Oh, if they also do go for actual lore skins same as they did for sentinels of light, maybe we could have a Void-corrupted version of Sylas due tp him trying to harness and absorb the power of the void himself? Especially since his rebellion is in a pretty bad state right now. (Ofc his plan fails miserably hence the corrupted part). Ahhh i see, well it is a really good series imo, just with, a terrible ending. (I think the later seasons are also significantly worse but yea..) Either way if you ever do have A LOT of time on your hands i would reccomend watching at least seasons 1-4.

Yeeeea i started working on him but then i accidentally closed the tab as my game of league was starting, got a habit of closing my chrome tabs lately cause its getting pretty hot and my pc starts heating up quite a bit if i have chrome and league working at the same time. But alright lemme check, so, Shyvana looks really good, i would only add seismic power since her "transforming" into her ruined version or whatnot did shake and even collapse parts of the mageseeker compound, oh and unholy manipulation since she is using the power of the black mist. For MF, i will be honest she is most definetely the one i am most mixed up about, on one hand she should've gotten quite a powerup cause Viego gave it to her himself, and like a part of her crew which she might've have or might've not empowered fought the entire sentinel crew for hours (Which makes no sense considering Diana alone would beat a dozen pirates with no trouble), on the other she lost to Pyke 1v1 when he didnt even have sentinel weapons, the bilgewater act was a fucking mess, my least liked act overall. Alas though that tiny rant aside, i think everything looks fine, i would just add low level longevity cause, all black mist creatures have it so she should too, and i would likely bump up her immortality to mid level since she was fully confirmed to be killed by Pyke yet came back just hours later on, oh and unholy manip for her too.
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Having Rey kind of getting the ropes over the fight and getting a lucky strike in due to Kylo's hubris would work very well while still establishing him as a potent villain although still flawed like with Vader getting shot down by the Falcon in Episode 4. I think it'd be a really cool moment too, as we've seen Finn break the programming, so why can't the others? It'd also give him a direction for after the films to try to rehabilitate his comrades and reintegrate them into Galactic society. Yeah, the whole impetus for that battle was just really weak sauce. Like where were all these people in the last movie?? I 100% agree on Luke's death. Like the whole scene was cool, but I don't get why that killed Luke. Maybe like you said he fought Kylo personally and sacrificed himself to Kylo and thus started his redemption or maybe they could've had him do something else in tandem like pushing the FO fleet into the sun or something that was equally crazy to justify it taking so much out of him. Like he essentially reset the scales to bring balance or however you want to put it so the final act of the trilogy can happen without intervention from the old guard. And no Palpatine.

That would work for a catalyst to trigger a release of a portion of the Watchers with maybe Annivia showing up to stop them squabbling and deal with the real enemies. That could also lead to a short ceasefire between the Avarosans and Claw so they can fight the lesser voidlings while the big 3 attempt to reseal the monsters and maybe have Lissandra drop in to try to steal some of the thunder for herself? Oh, that would be really cool for a kaiju Udyr, having the forms visibly and violently revert back if they go with the backfire angle. I like it! Ohhhhh!!! That is such a good idea for Viktor so he could legit be the good guy in a universe. It could maybe reference Dr. Serizawa from the OG film and other mad scientist type characters from 50s and 60s scifi. You also got me thinking of a Mecha Vlad that's composed of nanobots or even a kaiju Vlad that pulls from Shin Godzilla and Hedorah.

Void Sylas would be pretty great, ngl. We do have Void Bringer Illaoi, which could finally be made canon along with Fizz and Nocturne's. I really wish I had the time to watch long form shows any more. Adult responsibilities suck so bad and I've been struggling just to watch one or two episodes of the Superman Animated series in a week. πŸ˜₯

Oh, I can understand that pretty well. Okay, Shyv is updated. And yeah, I agree the Bilgewater part doesn't make a whole lot of sense with scaling. Only thing I can with Pyke is maybe he gets a power buff against the people on his list? That'd be my best guess. Or maybe the power she was giving her crew sapped some of her own, because she should in theory be on par with Ruined GP due to them being granted their powers more or less directly by Viego and not by being stabbed or what not. It could also come down to that Pyke is just that dominant in CQC situations whereas MF needs range to really be effective? I updated her on your suggestions and it puts her just shy of 700, which seems acceptable to me.
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Yea more or less exactly that sorta deal, cause right i think its too much, or well, Rey overperformed a bit too much but yeee... True yea, that would give him quite a thing to do while also making troopers more than just "evil goons with shit aim" for us. Oh boy im not even gonna lie, just hearing that as a possibility for Luke got me hyped up. If he had to die due to "using too much force" then it better have been something awesome, like idk uh, if the holdo maneuver didnt actually exist, rather it was Luke saving the rebelllion near the end of the movie, yea, that could've worked. (Anything just so i can see Luke go absolutely crazy with it, he should have been the strongest in the sequels by far and we know it!)

Mhhhm, basically ye, although so the things arent reverted to normal, i would either have Winters Claw and Avarosans unite for good, or i would have the void kill most of one of the two group. Or i guess one of the demi-gods could get corrupted by the void. Eiiiither way something just so that things dont return to complete normality, Watchers have been hyped up for as long as Viego has so if we ended up having two "duds" that would be one too many. Yep yep, an absolutely maddened scientist that thinks even the tiniest shred of Kaiju in something makes it worthy of obliteration! Vlad ideas sound good too although i like the nanobot one more, just kinda a sucker for nanomachines really.

Yea, completely forgot about those two ones but tbf that could work, although i doubt that will be the case since i cant see Illaoi being present at all in the void event, just someone that strikes me as an impossible sort of ordeal for it yknow? (Then again, Rengar joined the sentinels of light to fight viego so... anything is possible to say the least). Whelp, hopefully you get your due rest, coincidentally enough planed to watch some of the animated DC stuff myself one of these days, mostly cause a friend of mine has been reccomending two of its movies. Does also help that ive more or less enjoyed every piece of animated DC content ive watched.

Well, uhh, another reasoning could be that Pyke was amped by Naga since it was kinda implied by Diana saying "he has some unusual power inside" (not exact words but the general gyst of it really), eitheeer way whatever the reasoning neither of them should be that high. More or less just that, and it also wouldnt make sense for her to be much weaker since her deal was specifically getting enough power to stop GP, would be kinda senseless to trade her own life just to still lose to GP. I see i see, yea 700 is fine.
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Tbf alternate universe aside, if those two did die i really wouldnt be interested that much in season 2 as they were my favourite part by far along with Silco, and since he is already dead yeeea, id still watch it cause its League but definetely would be as high. So, Ekko Z Drive or anything works as far as im concerned. Although the civil war would sound pretty damn interesting, that is for sure.

Oh lol, well works out in the end eventually, still RNG should always be kept at a minium at anything imo but ye.

Mhm, pretty sure a fair number of them would be up for it too, and ven just a couple of the big ones would be enough for a start really. Yeeeea no idea either. (Now i cant stop imaginging a cursed image of Hecarim who is just a guy riding his horse)

Didnt even think about the whole brace thing but yea you are absolutely right in everything you said, any way one slices it she is nowhere near close to scaling to Braum physically. And about items, at the very least, they didnt use all the items but only those Jinx would realistically build. (Nobody really builds phantom dancer or QSS on her nowadays but shhhh, its not an impossible thing to happen, so at least its not as bad as it oculd be, still very much so dislike it.

Oh and the Kassadin Splash update is finally in the game, saw it first time today.

Edit: Saw you updated Mundo and the matchups you made so decided to update Shaco, since i kinda started but ended up not finishing it before my whole wifi thing. Oh and Mundo looks great btw. Speaking of Shaco tho, Riot is going ham with the VFX updates, just updated Orianna, Shaco and Leona, like the first two quite a bit, kinda 50/50 on Leona's but still love that they are seemingly really updating all the outdated ones this year.
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They cannot kill of Jayce and Viktor without having to do something drastic and the only thing I could think of is post-apocalyptic Ekko trying to save the city-states in a last-ditch attempt. It's such a good cliff-hanger to end on, but comes with a lot of risks.

Hey, I think the announcers are a great idea! And oh gosh, now I'm imagining stupid sexy Hecarim riding through Summoner's Rift on his immaculate horse and shirtless. Cursed. Truly cursed.

Sigh, yeah, it really does feel like someone really wanted to make sure Jinx won. And fair enough on the items, but I feel they could've argued Jinx's already fractured mental state and natural tolerance for toxins could've protected her without anyone batting an eye. Then could've focused more on melee vs ranged combat. Idk, lots I woulda rewrote there. I normally don't have too many complaints on DBs, but this one just felt shoddy and semi-fixed.

Oh, yes, I had seen good ol Shaco got an update! He's lookin mean and memey. Oh, I'll have to see if [email protected] has uploaded videos for those updates. I do enjoy Leona.

Oh, something I had been considering was setting up a separate universe from the standard LoL universe where we'd put the alts so there was a nice distinction between canonical skins and alternate lines. What do you think?
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Mhm, the only feasible way i see them surviving assuming the rocket isnt a dud is that, Viktor somehow uses magic to protect himself and Jayce, since technically his body is partly made of magic now, granted thats not too realistic since it would be a bit of an asspull but, best thing i can come up with really.

Prince Charming from Shrek 3 opening scene vibes...

Mhm and ye as you said, they could've just made Jinx resist the toxins since she has fairly high natural resistance, doubt almost anyone would complain if they went with that route, far better than a QSS "to the rescue". Kinda same really, still i am happy that a league champ got into it. (Although Jinx is among my less liked champions personally. Dont hate her just find her a bit meh)

I think they should at worst have them there in a day or two, very useful site, always use it for any new skins, reworks, patches or anything really.

Okay, that is a really good idea, a really really really good idea, damn. I am absolutely all for it but, how would we name it, cause if im gonna be honest i havent got a clue at the moment. Will try to think of something tho.
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Okay, the rocket being the dud or like one of those prank rounds would be freaking hilarious, but the Viktor barrier is possible as well, I guess. I'm really interested in seeing what they do and I hope they nail it.

Ohhhhh, yeah. That's just about right. Or they could just make him a centaur, lol.

Yeah, there were a lot of outs that didn't dive into the ridiculous they could've gone for. I like Jinx, she's one of my most used ADCs, but that's because I like the Chompers and Zap. Crowd control is nice.

I'll keep my eye out for it, they are a very good site at keeping peeps up to date.

I was thinking about calling it League of Legends Alternate Universes or shorthand LoLAU.
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They probably will, or at least i do believe in them quite a bit. Overall id say the only "Lore" related thing Riot even underdelivered on is the Sentinels of Light event, besides that at most i can complain that i find some stories or whatnot boring but, ye thats not quite the same.

Tbf i only played her maybe like 2 times, if i did play her again right now i imagine id like her more since i generally do like both range and crowd control but ehhh, Jhin kinda always just takes priority whenever i do get ADC.

Well yea that sounds pretty simple and effective, pretty good alright.
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My only real complaint about Arcane is Jinx being a little too dark. And yeah, from what I've seen of Sentinels of Light, the ball was dropped quite a bit and they let champ popularity determine things instead of what would make sense in world.

Oh, Jhin's a solid pick too. I like his traps and they're good for forcing your opponents into position, but Jinx is just more satisfying to play for me. She's got a good kit that's hard to screw up and I understand her popularity.

I'll put in a request for the verse and do an explanation on the request forum as to what it is. I'm going to see if I can poke MoNsTeR or some of the other eds to vote for the league characters. This has taken a little long IMO.
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Ye but oh well, at least it did show most of the community did care quite a bit about lore, so that was pretty nice.

Mhm yea she is, honestly one of best adcs atm but that aside, never played myself. Maybe when i eventually start making my rank up account with ADC but doing top, mid and jg atm so thats gonna wait.

Good idea ye. And yea thanks, pretty sure its been over 2 weeks now so that would be great. (Especially since id like to work on some of my own series but id like to first get these 5 next league ones out.)
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I think a lot of players really like the lore, at least for their own favorite champs even if they don't care about the greater scope. Lord knows some of the people I played with got obsessed with whoever they were playing and always wanted more.

I mean, she's just a hugely solid ADC with a lot of great qualities that make her able to fit into most teams. I do wish they would experiment some more with weapon combos informing the ADC. But not like Aphelios. Never again.

I've contacted Monster to see if I can get the wheels turning there. Hopefully something for you to do for the weekend. My other editors need to do more upvoting...
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Yea yea exactly that, like one guy ive known in person for years does not care about lore at all, but, if its Zac lore he'd be willing to pay for another shorty story. Imagine most of players are like that at the very least.

We can only hope. But yes uh they are being fairly creative with ADCs, perhaps for next one could be made to have a sort of just an upgrading gun sorta thing? Somethign similar to how aphelios does it but far more so, maybe would be interesting if champion couldnt even buy items but rather used gold to upgrade the gun. Could be a bit too much but eh, fun making up stuff.

Ey thanks a lot, seemingly both Renata and Singed have been accepted so that does help a lot. Oh and a bunch those you requested so things moving quite good.. (Good thing Seraphine got missed, she deserves it for Skarner)
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Yeah, like I know when I saw the Lux comic I got super excited. League is very good at designing compelling characters. And Zac is great.

Hmmmm, a character with a modular gun they upgraded over time could be cool. Maybe it could be represented by an item in their inventory (like Viktor's hex core) but have it to where when they bought the next level, they had to pick one of 3 upgrade paths? Like the first could give them elemental ammo between cryo, electric or fire with some kind of bonus effect it built up to? There's definitely a workable idea here.

I'm trying, lol. If Camille and Serphine don't get added in in the next couple days, I'll try talkin to Alien.X or something. I always check requests when I log in to get those wheels spinning.
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Zac is probably my favourite from any Zaun champion (3rd favourite if we count Viktor and Singed cause they are kinda half half.) But yea like those comics? Man, eventho none of them were about who id consider my favourites, loved all of them, Ashe was probably my least liked out of them but its still pretty close to Zed's. Sylas's was my favourite but thats because it was by far the most important for the lore as a whole.

Yea yea exactly like that, maybe also to balance things out a bit if the person wanted to remove an already installed part they would need to wait some ammount of time, maybe something like 2 minutes scaling down to 30 seconds depending on level? Or well numbers arent important, but perhaps just something that would allow the champion to adapt a lot since that would i presume be the main selling point of the champion.

Oh no no, you are doing great, sorry if i made it sound as if im complaining, these 2 are more than plenty, especially since i kinda made plans for most of today anyways so i wouldnt have too much time.
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I also like Ziggs just because of all his babbling. I liked Lux's the most, but that's because Lux is bae. I think Riot's partnership with Marvel must've fallen through, as I don't see any articles or listings for more comics from them, although apparently they are planning on more shows in the vein of Arcane due to its success. Plz Braum show.

That'd be fair enough, giving them the time penalty for an evolving game. I really like this concept, it could make for a very versatile champ with a lot of flexibility without anything too op being in the mix. Probably like a Piltover champ, I would imagine, like maybe an apprentice to Jayce or the armorer for the Wardens out to prove that their invention works?

I didn't think that was the case, but I just wanted to reassure you. And take all the time you need. This is a silly VS site where we can have Scooby Doo team up with He-Man to fight the Power Rangers.
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Yeeeeea, it has been quite a while since we got any info on that so unfortunately probably no more comics for a little while, or at least not from Marvel, since technically we did get a comic series for the ruination during the sentinels event. But yea ive heard of the entire more shows thing, cant help but be excited for more, would be nice to get arcane type series on other parts of the world too but ye, i will take anything and be more than happy, especially if it has Braum in it ofc.

Yea those work those work, i think the champion could work really well as a concept especially due to how important adapting is in this season, considering the importance of items and dragons, even just having an infernal dragon or two could make taking a modification with more AD a better choice than others, while if the enemy team has a mountain dragon or tanks perhaps there is one giving armor pen but less raw AD. A lot of stuff to tinker and think about, and considering we had the chemtech dragon in the game it doesnt matter if the champ ended up broken, still wouldnt be nearly as annoying.

Ah okay whew, ye i was just overthinking it i guess. Either way it is a rather silly VS website but id also say probably my favourite one, partly due to the "sillyness" since a lot of the other sites take themselves too too seriously so the communities end up being fairly toxic. Aside from a couple "trolls" cant say ive seen much toxicity around here but ye.

Edit: Just finished Renata and Singed. Renata's short's story is pretty nice, havent read it before this point but its pretty good, kinda short tho for a new release champ, usually they have a bit longer stories but this one was fairly quick, still pretty nice.
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I would assume if Riot wants to do more comics, they'll just do it themselves now. That and Marvel probably isn't the best to work with because of Disney. But, yes, anything they wanna do with a show I'm down for. Unless it's like Ilaoi's OnlyFans or something... although I'm sure a lot of people would go for thet.

I really like the idea of a champ, especially an ADC, that's more focused on being able to adjust itself to the match, especially with the nature of dragon buffs thrown in there. There's a lot of potential here for a real technical kit that has a high skill ceiling in something other than combos. I need it!

Yeah, there usually aren't too many toxic/troll users here and it's just nice to be able to do the silly matches and get some chuckles. I hate going on VS battle and seeing them argue exactly how fast a character's reaction times are while missing the greater context of the battle.

I saw! They both look great, although I'd add substance secretion to both of em, seeing as they both shoot out gas. And oh, yeah, neither of her stories are super long. That's weird. Still not as bad as poor Corki. Sorry I was slow today, had a bunch of stuff pop up today. I'll be workin on the Zaunites tomorrow and the next day, most likely.
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Lol, some sure would be but yea not quite for me either. (Gragas OnlyFans on the other hand tho...)

Whelp, next champ should be the void one so probably nothing similar idea wise to what we mentioned here but still, riot did release Zeri who can technically miss her autos so as far as experimenting with ADCs goes im sure there is a possibility for them to go for it in the future.

Yea basically, the ideal ammount of silyness. Oh yea i can most definetely agree there especially since a couple years back i used to use it very frequently, all i can say now is VSBW community is the most toxic one i know, id much rather spend time arguing my team about a "failed towerdive" than trying to debate some of the verses stats on the site.

Ahhh, thanks thanks, i felt i missed something but really had no idea what, added it for both. Yeeeeeeeeeea Corki can even give Shaco a run for his money, not something many can do at this point. And ey no worries at all, you take your time and i will check them out as they come out.
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Actually a show where Gragas is going around to bars around Valoran and getting their drinks up to snuff would be freakin great. And every episode ends with him getting into a bar fight.

I legitimately hope the void champ is named Dad'Dy and it has nothing to do with Kog. Lord, now I'm thinking I need to give Zeri low marksmanship because she can miss, although she is op af in TFT.

Yeah, I primarily use VSB as a resource for feats, as they're good about posting those, and to double check occasionally how to classify a weird power. And yeah, some of the logic threads I read on there were absurd. Like one on some One Piece character vs One Punch Man and how the OP lady would win because Saitama would find her attractive and I'm thinking have you seen One Piece women? I do say this knowing I was the guy at one point that modded a mod to simulate a war between Star Wars and Star Trek to find out who would win after doing like 3 months of research and calculations.

I always forget about substance secretion. It's like my eyes just slip right past it. Poor Corki, I would legit like to know more about him. Ooooo, a show about the Omega Squad and Corki being their pilot could be fun! Sooooooooooo, today got away from me. I didn't know we had school visits today, so I was stuck helping 8 year olds all day. Oof. Although, a lot of them liked InvestiGators, so it's not all bad.

I think Twitch is done... He came in lower than expected, but he is just a rat with a crossbow and he has a whole paragraph of lore.
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Yea, that does sound pretty good truth be told, perhaps the 1 episode he doesnt get into a fight is the one episode he is with Braum.

Oh yea ive seen her in TFT, seems really really damn strong but eh 5 star i guess, about marksman thing tho she is still fairly inexperienced so it could work.

VSB is pretty good when it comes to those, although i will say on occassions they can go a bit too far with classifying powers. Lol, that sounds like a pretty good VSB discussion all things considered, most stuff i remember is a lot of Naruto related debates since i used to like scaling it quite hard back in the days, dont remember any random debates like that just a bunch of bad arguments (From myself included). Sheesh, hey thats dedication, plus tbf i do quite like SW and have actively modded some of my Star Wars games, never was much into Star Trek tho, if anything wasnt really for me at all.

Yea yea some abilities i just miss, another good example would be explosion manipulation, my eyes simply refuse to register anything in that part of the page. Yea the chopper pilot Corki, delivering and rescuing the squad whenever neccessary, never thought about having an omega squad show but definetely has quite a potential, especially if we only talk about alternate skinline shows. As someone who has a now 9 year old younger sister i feel very sorry for you, worst part is my sister doesnt even like InvestiGators!

Yea honestly didnt expect him to clock that low, was more so expecting 50 or so but well, his entire lore can be summarized as "The incredible stink". Did try looking for anything i would add and yea couldnt find anything you even remotely missed so ye.
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I mean, Braum is everyone's friend. No need to fight. And Jax needs to show up to be his second opinion/drinking buddy.

Honestly, I don't think most of the 5 stars are worth it, ngl. Zeri's really good and Viktor is great if you save items for him, but the rest are pretty meh. Can't remember the last time I saw Galio, for example.

Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh, maybe a little, but it's useful as a backup source there. I've honestly given up trying to scale most of the manga I really like, lol. I always low ball characters. Oh yeah, there's a lot of great SW games out there and I used to mod the heck out of BFII and Empire at War (the base I used for my scenario). I grew up on all the Stars (Wars, Gate, Trek) so I have a deep fondness for all of them. And honestly, I only did all of that so my friends would shut up about it. FYI, Star Wars stomps. It's not even close.

A dark and gritty Yordle war show would be so great from a narrative and visual dissonance aspect. I want it. And a resistance/battlecast show. The nerve of the little one! InvestiGators is awesome.

I mean, his first story is just his bio and the second is him killing people from ambush. Just not a lot to go off of. Poor rat. I've heard rumor he's gonna get a VGU/full update to make him a shimmer empowered rat, but we'll see. I think I've got Zeri in the right place as well.
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Okay, never thought Jax and Gragas were a good combo but damn they could be, especially since Jax is already just kinda roaming around. What i think the show would also need is Veigar to be the main villain! I imagine probably because he would hear from his minions that Gragas is some distant hero, maybe due to mistranslation or something so to prove he is the true master of evil he would vow to defeat him and stop his quest! Which he would always fail in typical Veigar ways, where he ends up doing good things instead for Gragas and the gang.

Can agree to that one alright, only really saw Zeri here and not even much Viktor in my case. The strongest unit right now is probably Warwick from what ive seen, if he gets rolling he do be very unstoppable.

Yeap yeap absolutely agree there, its a great memory refresher and if i think something is a bit "Questionable" i will just look a bit more into it. Kinda same yea uh, before i used to scale manga a lot but then over time only Naruto, and nowadays not at all. Wait wait, are you talking about the old Battlefront 2? Cause if so damn, BFII and Empire at War are absolute fucking gems of games, and ofc ive modded the later one myself. Hmmm i see i see, i kinda imagined SW would since it generally takes itself as a more serious-military oriented series but alas, thanks for the info ofc.

No need to mention the battlecast stuff twice, any Viktor is good, let alone best Viktor (Metal is indeed perfection). Ye InvestiGators are great, not liking them is akin to heresy, honestly now that you reminded me of it, i cant stop thinking about how a cartoon-ish Nasus and Renekton comedy comic could actually work quite well, completely not canon since id also imagine they'd be solving mysteries around shurima or whatnot and maybe even Xerath would somehow always link up to everything in the end. Could just be me that likes the idea but i think it would be a pretty chill 1 volume sorta thing.

Kinda same although, i would say they are more so theories, as far as Riot info goes i dont remember them mentioning the rat at all, although it could be a nice way to tie him more to Arcane and expand on his story a bit so id be all for it. Ye so it would seem, she looks great soooo well done!
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Maybe it's old lore, but Gragas and Jax are supposed to be drinking buddies. Oh, yes! He thinks Gragas is trying to perfect a potion to stop on of Veigar's evil schemes and every time he tries to interfere, Veigar somehow ends up perfecting the brew for Gragas. That'd be super funny.

Oh yeah, all of the challengers are freakin strong. Camille can turn into a juggernaut with the right items as well. I think it might help if they figured a way to buff the bodyguards/brutes to counteract the power on display there.

Yeah, like Bard's page is just full of broken links, so I had to double check everything there. And oh, yeah, og BF2. I played that game into the dirt and got the mods for the Old Republic and such installed. As per Empire At War, I really wish we could've gotten a sequel to that. It was such a great game, but needed some refinement. I used to do beta testing for the Thrawn's Revenge team and they really knew how to get the most out of that engine. And yeah, uh, Star Trek just struggled to win space battles, even with a massive numerical advantage and lost 99% of ground battles because they didn't have any real vehicles. I ran a campaign as both and I had to lower the difficulty all the way down to even hold my own as Star Trek. Not a good time, especially when X-Wings packed as much of a punch as a frigate for ST.

Ohhhh, the Renekton and Nasus would be such a great time for little ones. And like every plot they foil is Xerath in another disguise. Very much envisioning something along the lines of Godzilland (although aimed a little older).

I think making Twitch a shimmer rat would make a lot of sense, although I hope they don't change his kit much/at all. He's good imo. I finished up Zeri, Zac and Ziggs if you wanna take a look.
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Yea damn i completely forgot about that, i think it might be in the "loading screen trivia" still but i am not sure. Mhm yeap yeap, exactly that, i can also imagine them escaping his castle with Veigar being stopped because he fell down a balcony (or anything really) and is hanging by his "coat" off a gargoyle or something, waiting for the minions to save him which they keep failing in their adorable manner.

Mhmm, well i think a patch droppd recently granted iirc didnt touch on them much if at all iirc.

Oh same same, didnt mod it since i only had it on PS2 but still that was probably my most played game by far until i started playing League, amazing game alright. And yea i wish so too, cause honestly, the only part i didnt quite like about Empire at War was the land battles, id be a liar if i said i didnt skip most of them. Oh damn really? Thats pretty fucking dope i do gotta admit. Yeeeeeea if just X wings are doing that much then i really cant see ST doing much, still a fun experiment nonetheless.

Yea yea, its somehow always Xerath in disguise, the exact thing i had on mind lol.

Honestly while i do find him annoying since i mostly play short range champs, i think he is more or less perfect as he is, wouldnt make any changes at all to him. All 3 look great! Especially Zac, added stuff i would've honestly forgot or missed. (Example didnt even know "Separation" was a thing, definetely the part of the powers list my eyes glance over a bit too much)
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Maybe, I just found that while I was scouring Gragas's bio stuff. Oh yes! And after his utter humiliation, Veigar can finally unveil his mech suit into the canon! And after that fails too, Gragas discovers it's perfectly shaped for a micro-distillery!

I only play a couple matches every day or so, so I'm hardly an expert.

Oh, there were so many cool mods out there (I played on my Laptop)! Like there was one that added a bunch of variations for each class and different skins based on the map you were playing on. I liked the land battles when it was in skirmish mode and it felt like a traditional RTS, but I think it needed some rebalancing and the scope changed a little to capture the scale of SW ground combat. Maybe made the vehicles rarer and more powerful and focused most of the tactics around the infantry. Yeah, I mainly tested the land maps for glitches and stuff, but it was fun. Also meant I got early builds and such. Yeah, like honestly, even a squadron of TIEs could probably mop the floor with most ST vessels except their legit battleships. And like the Executor took ~6 hours for a full fleet of ST vessels to destroy when I disabled all of the weapons and fighter crafts it carried. That thing could probably solo the Federation.

Maybe Azir could pop up occasionally as like the new kid on the block that's just learning the ropes or something. I love the idea of just having varied levels of content for different age groups.

I think if I was to change any part of his kit, it might be the ult? It's never felt super rewarding to me, but there's nothing wrong with it mechanically. Just needs a little oomph. I honestly only know about separation because I was trying to figure out how to represent M.O.G.U.E.R.A. being a combiner mech and happened along it. Super underutilized power.

We are so close to finishing the League champs (aside from canon variations)! 10 left, excluding the Seraphine and Camille. It's 5 and 5 Shurima and Targon and I know you like the former, so would you want to do them and I tackle Targon? With the exception I know you wanted to do Soraka and I want to do Skarner, so we could trade those if you don't mind?
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Lol, ye the final insult towards Veigar's villainry! Would only be complete if also people praise him for it as if he willingly gave it to help them make the ultimate brew, perhaps even gets a small Veigar logo on the cameo of the barrel.

I see i see, yea those sound pretty good tbf, might have to revisit the game one of these days if for nothing else then for nostalgia. Yeeeea for SW and how good the space battles were, land battles just felt kinda really tame. Do really like the suggestion of it being more infantry less Vehicles, cause damn i essentially would never even build regular infantry if i had the credits to buy vehicles. Ey still, pretty cool, id love to playtest something myself one day but yeee. Sheeesh, yea if it took that long with the weapons and fighters disabled then safe to say ST never really stood a chance, especially not when comboed with the rest of the fleet.

Hmmm change his ult huh, maybe if it got an effect similar to aatrox ult? By that i mean perhaps it has a bit lower stats by default than it does atm, but perhaps if Twitch gets a kill his ult duration gets extended and maybe even gets a bit higher stats? Could be a bit overbearing but oh well, just an idea which would make it feel more rewarding in a way. Hmm i see i see, i guess i will try to remember it for next time.

Weeeeeell, actually, it would be more than 10 even excluding Seraphine and Camille, cause i still have to even request Fiddle, Zilean, Jayce and Orianna, back when we organized everything i wanted to split the thing into 2 batches so i dont request 9 champs at the same time considering the requests were in a bad state but yea things have been taking a bit, so i might just request those and then ask someone to upvote all 6 of them, not sure tho. But yea that aside that split works completely great for me, feel free to take our favourite rock scorpion. (Before Riot reworks him sadge...)
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Maybe Veigar convinces himself that he's corrupting all those who drink it and thus his master plan has succeeded? Y'know, to make himself feel better and more evil.

I mean, it's still on Steam with a pretty lively community for a game from 2005. I would say if they did a modern day reboot of Empire at War, taking some ideas from the Company of Heroes would be an excellent idea. I mean, SW is supposed to be kind of a fusion of classical depitions of warfare and WW2 style weaponry, so it could work as long as they set the scale large enough. Yeah, ST is screwed in any kind of battle and once you start taking into account the disparity between Hyperdrives and Warpdrives. It's not pretty.

That could work. Especially if he's spouting his non-sequitor one liners out constantly. Just something that builds on the zaniness of his character. And yeah, it would definitely need some fine tuning to be both empowering and balanced. Maybe because he's pulled out his ultra crossbow or whatever, his movespeed is lowered?

Oh crap, I had forgotten about them!!! Idk why we keep getting jammed up on requests. Okay, as long as you're okay with that division, I think I'm gonna request Leona and Diana.
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Ye, Veigar needs some love after all, i imagine the minions would also prepare a celebratory party for that which he'd like quite a bit but then he'd realise its too colorful for THE "tiny master of evil!" so he would start chasing them around the halls or whatnot.

If the land battles were more like COH ones (especially COH 1, prefered it fairly over COH 2) then damn, they might even be as good or even better than the space battles which would just make the game reach even greater levels, and it is ofc already pretty damn good.

Oh, yea that could be a really nice way to balance it without nerfing it much early, would reward finding a good position more and would punish you if you just use it randomly, like the movement idea quite a bit.

Hmmm well people just being busy i guess, oh well either way il request the rest of those tommorow probably, and then if nothing happes in 3-4 days il ask someone to upvote. And yea im perfectly fine with it, works great alright. And ye sure thing sure thing.

Edit: Noticed you are adding to the galleries of the champs which is a pretty good idea, want me to start from Z and go in reverse to help around?
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Yes! That would 100% the perfect ending for the series! Definite needs the implication that the Minions love doing this stuff for their beloved Master.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm imagining. Maybe have like the three different eras to pick from. It'd be so cool to have an AT-AT being deployed against you being a legit threat. There's so much to work with and even if it's a game with just land battles, I'd 100% be down for it. I'd also take a fleet commander game that focused on fighter battles and limited the large ships to only a handful so that corvettes and fighters are your main force.

I guess people have their lives... I'd still like it if we were making sure to vote at least once a day or something.

Oh, yeah, I was just looking for something to do, but sure, help is appreciated! I've got through K downloaded and ready to go, so I'm hoping to do most/all of that tomorrow. Trying to include canon skins as well, such as Captain GP and such as well as the band ones that don't really need a profile, so I'm representing them there.
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Truly do wish Riot does do more Veigar stuff alright, i think he might be my most played champion overall, and is surely among favourites too.

Yea, the same way a AT-AT was a menace on the battle of Hoth in BFII, man did i also suck ass at flying those speeders, could never spin around their legs enough to collapse em. Mhm yeee agreed, cause truth be told, in Empire at War as is whenever i do get the ability to build Star Destroys and Victory Cruisers i only build those, i do use fighters more when i play the rebels but, i did always prefer playing the empire. (You ever played with the Zann Consortium from the dlc? Man i hated playing against them due to those turbo ass blasting cannons they have on their battleships)

Honestly even if it was just going through the list slowly once every 3 or so days that'd be perfect.

Aight aight sure thing, and ye good idea to add skins that are basically guaranteed to not get their own profiles. I will probably start slowly adding them along tommorow myself, will go ahead and request rest of old batch rn tho
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Veigar's just a good comedic villain. I really enjoyed him in the Arcade event in LoR, it was a lot of fun. I'd honestly like to see a mini-event where he tries to conquer the various regions but keeps helping everyone instead and becomes a Robin Hood type figure.

Maybe not quite that overpowered, but yeah, an AT-AT being deployed should be an oh shit moment for the rebel player. Yeah, in EaW space, I always build capital ships because they can spawn the fighters anyways. Cost benefit, yo. I liked the Zann, they could be really fun and I liked the idea of the big gun capital ship, but the rest of their unit line was messed up. I would've preferred to see them have a ton of unit variety that depended on what planets they owned. I'd like the idea tried again.

That's fair enough. I just like staying on top of things and keeping the gears turning.

I'd been keeping to the music skins for now, but yeah, any of the fun skins that don't really have any lore def deserve the gallery treatment. Yes, yes, of course. Oh, looks like the Infernal skinline got added to LoR. I think that makes them a real universe now.
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That would be amazing honestly, like imagine if somehow Veigar helped solve the Demacian civil war by accident. Only thing i would've loved to see as much is a Veigar cameo in the sentinels of light event, maybe either him accidentally helping the sentinels or him intentionally helping them as he just wants Viego gone so he can be the "terrifying evil villain!" again.

Oh, yea that would be pretty cool cause i probably spammed battleships the most when i played them, big gun and all that, having 3-4 of those out and just ripping through Piett's Star Destroy is among the best things in the game. (Nothing compared to using the Death Star to blow something up but shhh). But yea uh they could've had so much more potential, in the end played them the least for sure, especially since i didnt quite enjoy the planet corruption mechanics since well, land battles.

Mhm ye, all i want is for, Gentleman Cho and Lumberjack Sion to be in their rightful spots! (Along with half of Gragas skins cause they are all memes). Oh really? Any new skins there again? Cause usually they add old + some extra ones.
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Even if there was just like Viego going to recruit him and him saying no before a brief tussle would've been cool. Or even the most cursed idea of all: Sentinel of Light Veigar!!! Ha. But, yeah, I really feel like the Sentinels event needed to at least briefly touch on how each region took the events.

Oh, that reminds me of the campaign mission where the Zann guys steal the Eclipse briefly and use it to fight off an Imperial Fleet super cool. And yeah, those big gun ships felt super satisfying to use. Maybe they could do something with the whole Boba Fett taking over Jabba's realm to flesh out a new faction. Like you have Mandalorians, which are your heavy hitters but super expensive, so you have to supplement them primarily with Huttese merc forces, but when you take specific planets, you could gain Trandoshans and maybe even old droid foundries to beef up your options. Really make them a highly modular force that can be crippled with strategic strikes. Could do something similar with the fleets too. There's so many cool things they could do with a RTS SW game and it makes me want it so bad.

Oh, yeah, that's easy enough to do. So, the ones they added for the Infernals are Shen, Galio, Kennen, Swain and Pantheon they are all freaking incredible. I am so excited to do the alternate universes, especially with the incredible art in LoR.

Edit: Playing LoR and just got Pantheon... He can leap into the stratosphere with only a little effort. Oh.
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Mhm honestly even if we didnt get to see, full region reactions, just getting cameos from a lot more champs would be enough, like why didnt we at least get a couple words from Jarvan, Lux and Garen in Demacia? Or at least a mention of Swain in Noxus. Anything really would've been great.

Are you mentioning the Boba Fett TV series with that : /. Cause if so, oh boy did i not like that series, still, i would ejnoy that as a possible faction tho yes, especially in the way you described cause i mean, absolutely yes. A RTS SW game with a lot of playable factions would be something amazing alright.

Yeap yeap same same, and since it is kinda on topic. A lot of new solar/lunar eclipse skins but far more importantly so. Ruined Gangplank skin is being added in game, all of them got posted on SurrAt20 if you want to take a look at them. Personally like the GP one quite a bit especially the ult but splash feels kinda off, which i will segway into saying that it does so for most of this batch of skins, feels almost like a different art team created them. (Also doesnt help that i reeeeally dont like how most of these ended up but shhh)

The power of MANTHEON, mighty enough to even beat the strongest of ascended! Memes aside yea Panth is insane, absolutely love him too, i would say that he is most definetely the strongest out of all the aspects by quite a margin.
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I'm trying to make the request list one digit again. I will be very grateful if you vote for the characters you know.
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Will do!
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Whelp, its about that time again so, here we are.

Mhm i see, well fair, will go add him along right now then.

Yea same, i mean all 3 of my favourite champs either have a evolution mechanic or, well, 2 do, and then Nasus just perma scales, which is even better! Mhmmmm yea, Zoe kinda just, comes out of space and gets a crush on Ezreal, the creature should stay away and let Ezreal be (she is a creature and no more, too annoying to classify as anything else).But yea i agree, i think simple champions are great and absolutely neccessary, Sivir just, feels a bit off compared to someone like Garen, somehow she feels outdated even compared to some really old champs like Yi for example, a fellow simple as all hell champion that was released on game release iirc.

Yeeeeeeee we kinda did, ima go add him along too.
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Yup yup.

Already upvoted him and Kennen.

Bard, Braum and Lux/Ez for me. I just find them delightful. I do enjoy the stacking/evo champs really feels like you have your own quest to carry put in a match. Zoe is just so creepy and needs to let Ez and Lux be a couple in canon again (pls Rito, make me specifically happy). Yeah, 100% agree. There's just no synergy anywhere in her kit. I like her E a lot, but the rest is just kinda whatever. And the other simple champs you pointed out feel satisfying to play and she just doesn't.

Edit: Did you see Kass has a new splash art?
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Thanks ofc! Seemingly Zyra and Neeko got approved of mine while Jarvan got from yours so thats really fast tbh.

Oh i see i see, over here its Viktor, Nasus and Syndra sharing 1-3, and then Ornn and MF at 4th and 5th place respectivelly, honestly tho, Braum and Bard are probably somewhere between 5-10, Ez is cool and Lux, iiiiii, dont actually like her that much tbh, i kinda really found her annoying before but the comics made her better so now she is just, sliiiightly annoying. Mhm there we agree, maybe they could do something with them due to entire Sylas thing and Lux technically revealing herself as a mage, perhaps that could mak Ezreal return to Demacia and whatnot, could be a nice way to bring back Ez and Lux.

Oh yes i did, actually was planning to show it to you, and damn, he looks like an actual Void raidboss now, amazing job by Riot, especially on that helmet.

Edit: Both Zyra and Neeko done, thought Zyra would end up fairly higher, more so 500 or so. Then again i also didnt know they changed her lore quite a bit since the last time i read it
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Sorry for the slow response. Today was super busy. I looked over Zyra and Neeko. Neeko looks good. Zyra you might add wood manipulation to her and maybe elasticity at low because she can stretch her tentacles out. Other than that, looks good.

I've always just liked Lux's attitude in battle and I do enjoy sniping a Dragon/Baron with the tip of her ult. Nasus is a lot of fun, although full AP Susan on ARAM is hilarious. The mage situation should be changing, especially after the Ruination. And having Ezreal come back and show that powerful magic can be contained in artifacts safely might be a way to have Demacia's attitude soften. And then he and Lux kiss and my fan fiction will be real again.

It does look great, although I'm gonna hold out on changing Kass's profile pic until they officially reveal it. They've updated that kind of stuff before once it comes out of PBE.

I'm gonna start on JIV here now that I have time.
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Oh nah not at all, feel free to always take your time, we all have our days where we are busy or just dont feel like talking, nothing bad about that. But alas uh, thanks for looking over and yea pretty good suggestions, will add them right now.

Oh, so you enjoy putting junglers into an existential crisis at every objective fight? Having to smite dragon/baron with Lux on enemy team feels like an actual nightmare. Oh ye ye, i even pull out the ap Nasus in normal/ranked games sometimes, its not really good but, it happens to be most effective against darius for example, just slam that E on the minion wave and him and walk away cause you aint doing anything else. Mhhhm, would make sense alright, and would ofc make Ez/Lux a thing again, not sure when Demacia will be the main focus for lore again tho... I imagine probably not for this year at least since Demacia is one of rare regions with legit 0 Void interaction.

Yeap yeap, good idea ofc, dont wanna replace it just for it to turn out Riot decided they arent going through with it. Still tho, it does look great : /, honestly Riot please, after we got Zeri and Renata, take a full year or at least half a year to just update old champ splash/models, would make my day like no other.

J4 looks, only thing id maybe add just to be a completionist is some level of social influencing purely because he is rather good at motivating his troops and is a fairly good leader. Either that or low level of willpower inducement since its probably more fitting for him.
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Hopefully today isn't as hectic, lol.

Yeah, I do like doin a thievery of a dragon or baron. Oooooo, anything that makes Darius sad is good in my book. I did occasionally build RoA onto Susan when my team needed some AP, but sadly that's no longer possible. Yeah, I don't see Demacia getting anything in LoL, but maybe LoR could do something. I also have to say after rereading the Lux comic and J4's lore... J4 is just the worst. I understand his dad was murdered by mages, but to explicitly go against his father's wishes to end the persecution even after Xin tells him to go through with it. I get they want there to be good and bad in every nation, but jeez.

I've seen them dramatically alter a splash art before for skins, but I think the one they put out looks great. And yeah, at least updating the splash arts on older champs would be great.

Added that all in, thanks for looking him over. I upped his tactics level too, even though he isn't the best general ever.
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Hopefully alright hopefully, pretty chill day for me over here at least so i am checking over a couple profiles, updating Irelia, Morde and Syndra a bit for now since ive got time today. Updated Kayle and Morgana a bit too, more so Kayle since for Morgana i only forgot to add status effect inducement and something else minor, lowered her combat a bit too. Either way if you think i am insane with any of the changes please feel free to call me out ofc.

It is a rather great feeling, cant say it isnt. Oh damn fuck, it feels like ive missed out since i never actually built RoA on Nasus, and i really built it on almost all champions i played, loved the item after all. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea Jarvan is a bit of an ass one could say, never liked him that much since he is kinda boring to me, but after entire comic ordeal and him deciding to keep hunting all the mages i caaaaant say i like him at all.

Mhm yea that makes sense, he aint no tactical genius but he is still fairly good and experienced after all
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I don't see anything wrong with any of them that you updated. Love Irelia's new profile image too.

I can see why they took RoA out now that you say that. It was just too good of an all-purpose item for AP characters... But saying that, it was just a solid item without anything inherently broken about it. Sigh. For JIV, I think having him have apprehensions about it and seeking to loosen up on lesser magic but going after mages with "dangerous" powers could still show him being not totally good or anything. Or they could've introduced a Mageseeker champ that could represent that part of the nation and have J4's interactions with them being respectful if reluctant and acknowledging the necessity of their actions. Especially when you consider he's probably in a relationship with a half-dragon.

He's def a solid commander and one that's usually going to make the right choice. Plus he's willing to use unorthodox tactics like with the hive he fought in one of his stories.
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Aight thanks a lot for checking. And yea uh tried fidling around with images for all 3, Morde's was only that didnt stick, story image ended up looking a bit odd when added here so decided against it.

Mhm yea, more or less, plus, there were always those couple champs (RYZE) who would turn into raidbosses with it and another item, but alas, we can only hope it returns in the future. Ohhhhh yea yea, we dont have an actual mageseeker champion, perhaps introducing the "leader" of mageseekers who more or less fully embodies the anti-magic stance of demacia could be a great way to expand on things, and make Jarvan have to think of what to really do as the Mageseeker is convincing him about continuing the anti-mage policy and even doubling down on it while Xin is reminding him of what his father wanted. That along with the whole Shyvana thing could actually make Jarvan a really interesting character, Demacia could definetely use a story like that for sure. Buuuut yea probably not considering we are past that point unfortunately...
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Fiora's gonna be a fun one on that front. I swear they designed all of her images to not be great for profile pics. But, yeah, all of the ones you updated look good.

I mean, there's always gonna be someone that makes an item stronk, but that's just a balancing concern. I think that character is Tianna's husband. And yes, a legit villain in the court that has sway and is preying on Jarvan's grief to advance his own agenda while Xin reminds Jarven of the goodness in his heart and his pa's wishes. Add some good complexity there, but yeah, it's probably not a pressing concern for Riot on their lore list.

So, the Request list is a little backed up atm. Hopefully the user that has over 100 entries gets a limit on how many they can upload.
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Mhm yea i can imagine, had same problems for Swain, cause, i dont actually like his LoR image that much, its fine but its not, "up to par" with most others. Tried using splash but its literally impossible to get it to work.

Oh right yea yea, it should be him. And yea just exactly that, would make Demacia so much better. Because im gonna be honest, before Sylas and entire mage rebellion, Demacia has kinda been boring as a whole region for most part.

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, didnt even know one could request that much, i will for sure wait for some time then to request more even after this batch is fully done, i did notice we have been in a permanent 300+ request limbo which is, a lot. I assumed it was just some bug due to that "temporary break" the site had due to server issues but yeeeea.
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Why can't they think of the people that need official art for profile pictures and act accordingly?!? So unprofessional. Srsly, though, I'm happy there's only really been a couple that have presented this difficulty.

The Mageseeker general could give the region an actual assassin too. But, yeah, Demacia's in stasis right now as they do other things. I like the dragons they've introduced for them in LoR, but those have no lore.

Yeah, I think there needs to be a hard limit on the number anyone can have in the queue at a time. Like 20 max. I've been trying to help alleviate that by voting on things, but doing my due diligence and assuring these things aren't in the database and such are one the time consuming side. As per the original cause, I can't say. I think the request list got purged afterwards, but I don't remember exactly.

Edit: Looks like Sylas and Kennen got approved alongside Nidalee. I think I have her done.
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Right on! Those artists have disrespected us for too long! I say we round them all up and force em to make 5 new splashes for all the champions, ALL fully fitting to the sites format! And yea like damn, it might even be less than 5 by the time we add all base versions for the champs. Riot art department has always been beyond great.

Ohhhhh, yea, Demacia does not have an assassin after all, interesting alright.

Mhm yea agreed, even 20 is A LOT, the most ive gone for is, 8 or 9 i think? Not sure, and even then was only cause wanted to finish Ionia in one swoop. Yeap, hey great job alright, you are doing your part alright. And i see i see, oh well.

Ah i see, well thanks for the info, i will check Nid and update those 2 tommorow tho cause, honestly im just really tired, a really busy day so just came to say hi and whatnot. From a very quick glance she looks good tho but will check fully tommorow.
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I mean, that's the least they could do. But, yeah the art has been like 98% fantastic, so I can't complain too much.

Could even make him like a lockdown/supportive assassin? Idk, like play up that he sets up for others, but still does burst damage.

I usually do 10 at a time so I can split my focus between franchises, but I've hit 15. So, like 20 seems like the limit of reasonableness to me.

Take your time, we all have those busy days. And thanks for stoppin by! 😊
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Hmmm that sounds interesting, if we are talking lockdown perhaps it could be a way to reintroduce "silence" as an effect again? Since well the leader of the mageseekers no doubts needs to have some connection to petricite in his gameplay. Although the mechanic is generally "toxic" could be interesting if its a single target spell, perhaps balanced in same way as Kassadin's E where he would need to see several abilities get used first to use it himself.

Hmmmm i see i see, and yea when one does more than 1 series then a bit more is to be expected, still nothing 20 cant handle really so agree alright.

Aight after looking at Nid she looks great! Gonna go over Sylas and Kennen right now.
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Maybe he could have some kind of Petricite collar he could put on a single champion that stayed active while he's near them? And yeah, as long as it's single target, I think it can be dealt with. And having him only being able to do it against one champ at a time would play into the assassin aspect. I think it's an idea worth exploring from a Lore stand point at the least.

Thanks. I looked over Kennen and Sylas. No problems with Kennen, but Sylas I think could use low level magic absorption? And maybe his magic level at the "normal" tier. Other than that, he looks good. What do you think of Garen?
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Oh yea maybe some mechanic like Kindred marks? Would make him more predicatble sure but for that reason it can also have a very strong effect, plus it helps the team play around protecting that target more. Sounds like a very neat idea.

Ah okay well first thanks for checking out. Second, will go and change around Sylas, although i think his magic absorption should be lowered only to mid level and ye will put his magic up. Garen looks great tho so well done there!
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Another fun way they could expand the lore might be "future" skins. Like an Old King Jarvan or something. Get some more lore drops that way. And you could justify it with like Ekko creating rifts in time or something. Idk, it could be fun.

Ah yes, that looks great! And now we wait for the other editors to vote... I've started uploading the regions as well, but once we finish the current list, we have 31 champs left. 6 from Piltover, 8 from Zaun, 5 from Targon, 5 from Shurima and 4 with no specific residence. I'm gonna assume you'll wanna tackle Shurima?
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Hmmm yea that could be fun. I mean hell one of my favourite skins is Freljord Sylas and thats literally just Sylas in a winter jacket, but since its lore, yeeea, instantly better. But yea that could be interesting, would love to see it, could also help them expand. Honestly even if we just got more "bilgewater Swain" type skins which arent canon at all but are a neat idea, i wouldnt mind at all.

Yep yep. Oh, great job, i kinda completely forgot about that tbf, still yea uh great job. About requesting next, firstly fuck me only 31? Damn. Uh, i would like to tackle Shurima eventually but id probably leave it for the end with targon, although i guess only the "non-ascended" shurimans are left so eh who knows. Either way, wanna split apart other regions right now? If so any of the leftover ones you like more than others? (And ofc if there is any champ in specific please feel free to mention them)

Oh and who would be the 4 champs without residence, i can think of Fiddle buuuut thats mostly about it tbf without going and checking the list of champs.
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I mean, I like the Bilgewater AU skins. Gives some cool What-Ifs for the characters. Like Vlad controlling water and such. Doin a whole shattered timeline thing could be cool. Like Sylas could get a skin where he's king or some such.

I put some Demacia champs on my list too and counted them without thinking, so the number's actually 28. And sure, we can divide them up. I don't have much interest in the remaining Zaun champs (Mundo, Ekko, Renata, Singed, Twitch, Zac, Zeri and Ziggs), so I could tackle the Pilties (Cait, Camille, Heimer, Jayce, Orianna, Seraphine). Or we could just grab from those fourteen the ones we like best. Either way works.

The 4 without specific homes are Fiddle, Nocturne, Janna and Zilean. They do have connections, like Zilean to Icathia, but that's more origin than anything.
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Lol, King Sylas is probably the most cursed thing imaginable in league. That and mage Garen

Mhm i see i see, well yea we can do either of the ideas really. Most of the champs there im neutral on but i do happen to like Singed a lot for example so id like if i could get him, on other hand i also really dislike Ziggs sooooo id really prefer if you could do him for example. Any champs here you would specifically like doing or specifically wouldnt like doing? So we can make it easier to split em apart (if we go for that option)

Oh, i see i see. Honestly all 4 are cool (to slightly varying levels) so you can just give me the 2 you like the least between the 4 of them.
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Just spit balling. Idk, an alternate future with a victorious Sylas could be a cursed kind of interesting.

Oh, I am perfectly happy to do the explosives mini man. I do like Cait, so I can tackle her. Maybe Zac too? On the neutrals, I'm unfamiliar with Fiddle since his rework, so I could tackle Nocturne and I prefer Janna to Zil, if you don't mind. That an appropriate division so far?
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I do agree, just reverse sorts of skins in general are something that would be great to see. And ofc always up for more lore skins, example of one id really like is a skin of Mordekaiser before he died (the first time). Would probably look like a mix of base and pentakill i imagine but ey just seeing what he actually looked like would be very cool.

Mhm aight cool, then, you can take Cait, Zac and Ziggs, il take Singed for sure. And ye im perfectly happy with Fiddle and Zilean, coincidentally enough i might like Zilean the most out of all 4 of them so ye. As far as other non-mentioned Zaunites and Pilties go i imagine we both just do one of the sides ye?

Seemingly riot will be doing a pretty cool skin in where similarly to how there is a victorious skin for gold+ players, there will also be a unique skin for honor level 5 players this year. Havent revealed anything about who or what it could be but still very nice. (They havent revealed anything since its obvious Teemo needs to be the face of anti-toxicity as the first honor 5 exclusive skin!)
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Oh yeah, it'd be great to see him before his wraithness. Pre-Ruination Mao could be cool. I'd also like to see some more Kaiju skins like Giant Enemy Crabgot to fill out the Mecha AU. Maybe a Kong Gnar or some such? Giant Enemy Knar?

I will say I don't wanna do Camille bc I hate her. I was also gonna offer one of us take Zeri and the other take Renata cause they're newer.That'd leave 5 pilties and 3 zaunites.

Uhhhhh yeah it's gotta be Teemo. He's the face of honorable players. I'd call it Blessed Teemo.
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Never thought id hear that skin mentioned, as glorious as the Giant Crabgot is of course. And yea i mean hmm, Gnar could be one, maybe a giant Kraken Vel'koz? Im still surpised we dont have a cthulu/lovecraft inspired Vel'koz skin yet.

Yea cool ima take Camille then, as far as Zeri and Renata you got any preference? I maybe slightly like Renata more so unless you do too il take her. And yeap out of thooooose, how much you like Heimer? Since if you are mostly neutral or negative il gladly take him too.

Lol, perfect name, would change nothing. I really do hope its a good skin tho. Oh and forgot to mention, alongside the skin, honor 5 players will also get a special recall "aura", similarly to how challenger players do. Honestly just really good changes because as of right now, being honor level 5 kinda sucks in terms of rewards for how hard it is to get
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Ooooo. Maybe like Giant Enemy Vel'God? :D Honestly, if they referenced some of the most ridiculous kaiju ever made, I would be super happy. Like freakin Pestar. A Pulgasari skin for Cho would work great too.

I will gladly take Zeri and you are welcome to Heimer as well. With 4 remaining, I'd like to do Ekko and Mundo if you don't mind. Unless you really hate Ori and/or Seraphine that is. That'd give us equal agency on that grouping there.

Yeah, I mean, I remember working up on the honor levels and it was not easy by any stretch of the imagination. So, yes, they need to make the people that earn that feel supremely special. It's only right.
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I never had any idea a kaiju thats essentially 2 stars fused together existed, and yes ofc i had to google it, someone must've been having the fun of their life thinking about that. Tbf tho not too much knowledge on all the kaiju stuff, only really ever watched the godzilla movies and played a PS2 godzilla game, really good game. But yea uh, i would very much enjoy those types of skins, kaiju are cool. I think a Ghidorah skin could also work great for Cho, would be different than all of his other skins in appearance plus its probably my favourite of the kaiju i know.

Aight sure thing cool cool, and yea no uh i dont hate either. (How could one ever hate someone like Seraphine??? Ridiculous!!) Hate laning against Ori tho, that aside sounds like a pretty good plan. i think that only leaves Jayce and Twitch so which of the two would you prefer? Since after that pretty sure we split all 14 of the Zaun/Piltover ones plus the 4 regionless ones.

Mhhhm, thing is they made it take even longer, just to give an idea of how much longer i think i played around 700 games last season, and i only barely got level 5 at the end of it eventho i didnt get any warnings/bans or any other form of punishment that year. Soooo, yeeea definetely agree.
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Yeah, um Ultraman has some of the most insane designs you'll ever run into. I've been takin a break from uploading them here, but there are just a ton. You probably played Destroy All Monsters Melee because that games insanely good. Ghidorah could work for Cho or Aurelion. Kind of a shame there aren't any multi-headed champs. Or explicitly bug themed ones. Rammus needs a Gamera skin too.

I can do Twitch. He's pretty funny. And yeah, with that, we've got the next phase of operation LoL figured out!

Oh damn. Yeah. 700 games with no reports or anything def deserves some kind of prize!
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From what i checked of it i dont think its that exact one due to the UI being different from what i remember but point still stands, the game was fucking amazing, probably one of my most played games back in the days. Ohhhh, yea for Aurelion that could also work great, honestly even if not a direct reference to Ghidorah just a golden 3 headed dragon Aurelion skin would be amazing, something even more flashy than he already is. Whelp, at least TECHNICALLY, "Mothra" Kog is in the game.

Mhm mhm, il get to my part after Rengar and Rell get approved i suppose, you still waiting for a couple Demacians right?

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, idk about reports, because there are definetely several people who have reported me over "disagreements in gameplay". Ive just never been punished or warned for them yet but thats probably because i dont chat much besides joking around and i try not to int, althouuuugh my Aatrox could possibly get me one day since yeeea i am not that good on him. Only pick him when we have full ap comps so i cant pick Cho or Ornn tho.
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Honestly, that era of GZ games were all pretty great. I mean, Aurelion would work really well, especially if they're adapting the anime Ghidorah, who's like an abstract entity. So that might work. And I suppose there is Butterfly Kog, but idk, it's just not the same...

Right now, I have the locations on hold. Ezio's trying to get the list down, so I'm holding out on additional requests until that is done.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there was someone with a stick up their bum about something in a game. And, I mean there's a defference between inting and losing your lane due to a mismatch. I know some people got mad at me when I was trying out Senna and such. And Tankmo support. Gonna admit, when I was playing Ornn was super rare to see anywhere outside of bot lane. Saw a couple jungle Ornns once...
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Yeeeeeeeea, he is more so a, "adorable buttefly" rather than a kaiju... Tbf tho "kaiju" are mentioned in Mecha Aatrox lore so perhaps, perhaps alright.

Hmmm i see i see, yea sounds good, seemingly Rengar and Rell got released but since i came late today il do em both tommorow and ye only then il request more.

Yea basically same, i legit would not mind yuumi jg if the player actually plays the champion there, it might be bad but yknow, he still got to my rank playing yuumi jungle so he must make it work somehow. And yea uhhh, only ever seen Ornn support here, besides top ofc.
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Congrats on getting editor Role!
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Thanks! Always feel free to reach out to me if you need anything (that's within my power)!
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Congradulations on getting the editor role.
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Thank you! I'm sorry you couldn't be promoted as well. Feel free to reach out if you need anything!
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Oh well I am definitely not surprised I have got a bunch of work still that I need to do before knowing that I can become an editor role.
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I'm sure you'll get there some day. Again, let me know if you ever need anything.
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Will Do! Thanks for the support!
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Hey Von do you have the power to edit character names?
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I do not. I think you'll have to hit up Monster or Ezio for that. They're pretty good about doing it.
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Ok cool thanks anyways
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now you can edit empty characters lock and upvote/downvote requests
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Oh my gosh, I am so honored! Thank you!
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Congrats πŸ˜‹
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Annnnnd back here we go, cause yes its about time.

Ohhh i hoope too, well, we will see when the next patch preview comes along, cause, 3 patches will be a bit toooo much to give them the benefit of the doubt.

More or less yea. (Thats why Yuumi and Book should team up with Rock, the most ambitious crossover yet)

Hmmmm yea, since they are from the void where physics are either wonky or dont exist they should get the lowest level one, would it also be given to the humans that use Void energy/have been into the void?

Edit: Just got done with Sona, was gonna do more than 1 but eh was pretty slow due to distractions. Anyways any thoughts? I put her as tier 2 because the magic from her Etwahl didnt get stopped by mageseeker petricite armor, i think on her own she is barely tier 1 if even that but yea uh, "magical Ionian harf"
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Oh, for sure, that's a little bit too much leeway to be given. Hopefully they start buffing based on how strong a character is supposed to be in lore. 😁 That'll surely satisfy everyone.

Oh. My. Gosh. That would be epic. They'd probably find Norra in no time flat and then free all of the oppressed peoples of Valoran!

I would say both voidborn and those that have been changed by the void would get that low physics manipulation, yes. Kog's buff wasn't too crazy, but Cho def benefited from it.

I did some reading and I have to agree with your assessment for tier 2. I would add max empathy to her, but other than that, she looks good.
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Lol, Asol would finally get his time to shine! And by shine i mean be able to obliterate both the enemy and his own team with a single q. Either way honestly i dont even mind champions being broken, if anything i think that riot does a rather amazing job at keeping the game both complex and fairly balanced considering the 150+ champions, the bigger problem i have is that its almost always the same small handful of champions that are broken, would be nice to get a bit of a shiftup every once in a while. Still, i do honestly believe they do a great job at it overall.

Mhm yea yea, agreed, would that include the darkin tho cause, they didnt get quite changed like kassadin and etc etc, but they did kinda get corrupted-ish? Not too sure myself so have to ask ofc. Annnnd yea, our favourite giant roach of doom has for sure gained a couple more stacks to say the least, still all voidborn are supposed to be extremely strong so it works, i mean hell they are the only ones that could fight The Ascended throughout the history of Runeterra, not including other ascended/darkin or specific individuals ofc but yea shhhh.

Aight will do will do, thanks for the suggestions ofc. (An obvious thing i missed, after all Sona is the only one that can save us from that demon Seraphine and her demented ways of "fixing" Zaun and Piltover, Urgod would've been long done if it wasnt for her tainting everyones minds.)

Gonna probably do Brand and Ryze next so i do have a question, should Ryze get world runes included in his profile cause, that would probably amp him to tier 4, but i feel like we shouldnt considering he reeeeally doesnt want to use them so it would be a bit unfair to include them, any thoughts on that?

Edit: Just finished Ryze and Brand, expected Brand to end up higher tbh, more so in the 1200-1300 range, id say Ryze looks just about where i expected him to be tho.

Edit2: Oh and also, updated Akali around, saw she was 38 which seemed veerry off and yea she was one of the first i did so she was done kinda really poorly, but ye
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It'd be freakin funny to see his Q engulf the map the instant he cast it. And yes, I will agree from my experience that they do a pretty good job on the balance end and you can usually ban the overtly broken champs. Because this isn't the perfect world, I can accept a few problem children.

Yeah, Cho definitely been feastin... But, yeah, he's supposed to be a massive threat. The Darkin I'll have to look into before I can say definitively one way or the other. From my work on Tryndamere and such my inclination is that they don't wield any void magic, but were just corrupted by it. Again, I'll have to look into it some more before I have a definitive position.

We both miss things. And yes, that cursed Seraphine is preventing the rise of the perfect universe under the one true Urgod.

I looked at all of them and they look good. For Brand you might add magma manipulation (idk why it and lava are separate powers), magic absorption (he wants to absorb the Runes and should be capable of doing so) and explosion manipulation. I doubt that'll get him in the 1200 range, but he should hit 1k at least. I agree with putting Ryze at a 3 due to his not actually wanting to use those Runes and only keep them out of the hands of those that'd abuse them. He and Bard need to get together some time... Do any of his skins represent him being unleashed or the like?
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Mhm, honestly i think people shit on Riot far too much (on average), i think for like 90% of the year things are more or less completely fine in last 2 seasons or so, and then there are some patches where they reeeeeeally mess up, but generally doesnt take them that long to fix it. Oh well point of story riot gets shit on too much, they are much better than they used to be for most part.

Mhm yea, will have to look into it myself but as is i do agree for now that the Darkin shouldnt really, cause yea, no void magic or whatever.

Oh, yea damn thanks a lot for the suggestions, completely went over my mind, will go edit them in right now. Annnd not really, we have Young Ryze which is what Ryze used to be canonically and he would've maybe even been willing to use the Runes, but he didnt have them at the time soooo, yeeea.
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I've had more or less the same experience. There are a few outliers that get annoying, but they do well on usually making sure no one's too broken.

WE'll stand there for now. I mean, they're stupid strong anyways, so it shouldn't impact their scores.

Hmmmm. Maybe someday they'll give us no holding back Ryze in an event? Like he's the savior against Void Daddy or something.
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I like that they try new things tho, or well i like it now because, before they werent really willing to go back on changes, but i mean hey, they remove chemtank dragon this year so, no more can i say that. It wasnt fun at all and was imo a really stupid idea, BUT, at least it was something really new.

Yeap yeap, probably wont affect any of them in any major way. Eiiither way uh, i did already request Ascended like Nasus and Co ages ago but i will probably wait to update them until we get to shurima. Probably gonna update Qiyana next cause she is fairly simple and only real person from Ixtal. (Which is suprising tbf, i know Riot kinda pushed in all the kumungu jungle people under Ixtal but, i expected we'd get more than 1 champion that is actually from Ixtal by now)

Could be possible could be, after all using the runes sure beats being eaten by a giant monster from another dimension. Would be sick tho, absolutely love Ryze myself, definetely in top 15 favourite champions
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Ohhhhh... Just looked at the buff that gave and yeah, that be broken af. Everyone with Sion passive is nuts.

I feel like we should probably do the Mt Targon and Shurima updates fairly close together, as they are pretty similar in power levels. And yeah, knockin out Qiyana makes sense. I'm workin on Fizz and Sion now. Fizz is a little bastard imo, lol.

It'd be a cool way to intro a new champ and simultaneously give Ryze some love, as you've said he kinda needs it now. Also give us a taste of what the World Runes are supposed to do. Ooooooooo. True Void skins of the void champs would be freakin tight too.
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Mhmmm, was the higest winrate soul by far at i think 98% winrate, most others were around 80-90% with hextech being the 2nd highest at 91% iirc sooo was quuuite a bit more impactful. Honestly tho, worst part of it was the map change, giving everyone invisibility made playing particular champions feel terrible, oh, and playing tanks also sucked cock cause, the "deal more damage if enemy has more health" part didnt mean higher percent health, rather just higher HP and since tanks have the most hp in the game they never get the effect while everyone deals more damage to them. Hell if a fight was happening in chemfog part of map and enemy team had just 1 chemtank dragon that would end up being 18% more taken damage for the tankier champs, because the chemfog had the same effect as the singular dragons but instead of 6% it was 12%

Agreed agreed, we can probably leave them for the last then. And yea uhhh, Fizz E still might be the most infuriating basic ability in the game, and with rest of his kit yeee.

Oh yea thats a great idea, let us get a better view into that juicy void. Either waaaaay... Void focused year so, perhaps, perhaps.
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Oh lord that's oppressive af. And I like being chonky, don't punish me for it! That just sounds like an absolute cluster truck of abilities mixed together. Probs best they take it out and rework it significantly.

Yeah, especially cause I feel we're gonna have to do the dreaded task of scaling to get appropriate levels. Urgh. But once we get past that, we can start doing fun variants, so there's that to look forward to! And yeah, I freakin hate playing against Fizz. If his E just let him dodge one ability, it'd be fine, but the continuous dodge pisses me off. What do you think of Fishboy and Zombie tank?

The Void is just so cool from a visual design perspective that I just want more at all times. And, I mean, the Void is the next big baddie after Viego unless they wanna do Xerath or somethin. Or have Urgod stop holding back.
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Mhm yea yea, they did thankfully, which makes this season weird cause... The only preseason changes we got is a like 4 new items, and 2 new dragons, which is now well, 1 new dragon.

Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaa, we probably will tbf, especially with some particular ones but ohh well. Mhm, im beyond excited for that Battlecast Glorious Evolution! And yea i mean, playing someone with a targeted ult like Syndra and seeing him jump on that pole, mmmmmmmm, not very fun to say the least. BUT, Fizz this year gets a taste of his own medicine because there is a mage item that counters him really bad, essentially it gives a malzahar passive type shield but only for damage reduction, however, it only gets procced by damage so now Fizz cant just chunk his ult to start the combo since the damage gets reduced by 75% iirc.

Rat bastard fish looks really nice. Sion looks as good although only thing i would change is maybe give some low level of energy projection or something similar since when he self-detonates his W he does something of that sort. Oh and ive finished Qiyana myself a little while ago

Considering Taliyah has received more lore than the Empire of Shurima in last 3-4 years, proooooooobably no Xerath main boss... But yes uh Void is amazing and i really like they picked it, especially compared to Urgod because lets be honest, if Urgod stopped holding back there would very soon be no more new lore.

Edit: Oh and, maybe id also add Longevity for Sion cause well, he is a zombie essentially so he probably doesnt age? Just a suggestion tho ofc
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Yeah, that's not much new in a season, although two champs did debut super quickly back to back. Well, a champion and a mistake.

Ach vell, at least we'll know one number to put for all of them. Yes, Battlecast will be fun and I think Worldbreaker will be too. Oh, the Arcade skins got some new lore with the last update to LoR. BB Veigar has a skyscraper sized mecha now. It's so stupid, but as long as he's getting something shoved up his cloacae, I'm satisfied. His sins must be punished.

I added in explosion manipulation due to it being kind've unclear what exactly the Soul Furnace is releasing and I felt it fit the ability best (added the longevity too). I checked out Q and everything seemed to check out to me. I'll start adding in the void champs here soon, so let me know if there's any you wanna do.

I'm kinda wondering now if maybe the Glorious Revolution was partially started because Viktor and Urgot teamed up and spread from there. Hrmm...
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True true, and also the Udyr rework which is probably coming soon due to entire LoR thing. Another thing they are doing is updating a lot of VFX for older champions, like Elise got one a couple days ago, then Velkoz (whose ult is legitimately fucking fantastic now), Syndra, Zilean etc etc. Honestly i really wouldnt mind a year where they just focus on updating older looking champs so im more than happy for now.

Ohh, yea yea i noticed, they look really damn cool over there, Final Boss Veigar is a national treasure, and im all for more of it.

Yea thats sounds good, well done ofc. And uh as far as void champs go, feel free to requst any of them yourself, i do love me my Void Squid but you did already ask for him in the past. Will say tho, there really are less void champs than i expected once i checked the page, sure as hell is about time we got that new one.

True! Perhaps Viktor found a formula capable of replicating a mere fraction of Urgod's perfection, soon after that Cho and the void bois couldnt help but to willingly join the coolest club on Runeterra.

edit: Whelp, cass request got approved so i went ahead and updated her, not even gonna lie, she is among the most boring champions around, but oh well, had to be done for glory of Noxus!
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Oh man, I love his new artwork in LoR! Had to update his profile pic with it immediately. And yeah, getting everyone updated and in line with newer champs visually makes sense. Anyone still wandering around with Pizza feet?

Battle Boss Gnar is stinkin adorable too, although Veigar is very mean to him! Rude.

Alright, I just had to check. I have a few Ultraman characters to do and then I'll request Kassadin, Kha, Malz, Rek'Sai and Vel. I think that's all the remaining ones if I'm not mistaken.

I mean, even 0.01% of his unleashed form could decimate the entire universe. It would explain why the Battlecast Voidborn have become so powerful and seemingly wiped out the vast majority of resistance.

I also don't see anything that looks off with Cass. I did enjoy playing her at one time, but that was only when a couple buddies played as Singed and Teemo and it was poison gang time.
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Only real pizza feat master right now is Veigar, he still has em triangular small feet of doom and evil... Besides him tho im pretty sure nobody has pizza feet, although Vlad and Cho still didnt really get a model update but, in due time.

Mhm, he is probably just angry because Gnar is bigger than him. But yea uh, the new battle boss/arcane skins in LoR are pretty good. (Arcade Anivia is literally a bird flying a plane, it doesnt get much better than that)

Mhm yea that sounds like everyone really

Of course! They are all empowered by the power of love and Urgod's magnificent fragrance, still uh Battlecast is probably one of my favourite skinlines overall. (Resistance, ehhh, not so much, cause, skins kinda sucky tbf)

Aight thanks a lot for looking at her and, yes. That is 1 time Cass is fun because i dont need to break both of my wrists to properly play her, and the damage does jump rather high to say the least.

Fellow Unbound Thresh enjoyer, very nice indeed : / (as we all should be after that cinematic tbf, easily among best league cinematics)

Edit: Went ahead and updated Kai'sa, since well, Void stuff very soon anyways. Probably gonna focus on Evelynn and Viego next, maybe Lissandra but yea one of them. Since that will only leave targon/ascended, freljord demigods annnnnnd thenn people we both have to request.
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Honestly, he's really the only one I can see getting away with the feet of pizza. Makes him more menacing. I hope if they do a VGU on Cho, they rework his palate swap skins. Never played Vlad much, so I don't have much to say about him.

The only thing that needs to be updated is that the transformation sequences don't update to be representative of the skin you're using. Very strange. And yes, Annivia is great!

Yeah, it's def one of my favorites as well alongside Star Guardian and Definitely Not. I was thinking we should probably figure out names for each alt universe that isn't redundant with the skin names so that if there's multiple factions (like Arcade or Battlecast) it's obvious what's from what universe. Like Dark Star and such is Event Horizon. Maybe Arcade is set as Arcadia because that's the world they're in. Idk, just something to ponder.

I used to like her a lot better when she used to get stacks from poisoning people. I don't remember why they ripped that off of her, but it really sucked all the fun out of playing as her.

Yeah, that cinematic is awesome af. And I wanted to switch up the profile pic and had this sitting around for when Unbound Thresh goes up.

Only thing I'd say for Kai is she probs needs Danmaku. Other than that, she looks great. Yeah, Viego needs his stats. I've been trying to represent the Mist as umbrakinesis and unholy manipulation, so you're aware. And I am utterly clueless on Evelynn, ngl. Well, we'll still need to finish off Demacia, which should be faitly straightforward. And yeah, after the probs mostly tier 3 folks, we can wrap up all the unaligned peeps. The end is in sight.
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Mhm, the tiny master of evil with, more than unique style to say the least, but i mean yea uhh, even in a new model that could work, he still kinda has them in LoR after all. I think if they reworked Cho they would do a great job on his palate skins but, i am afraid Gentleman Cho could lose his charm, although it could also end up better same way Corporate Mundo got vastly improved.

Hmmmm yea, that does not sound rather ideal.

I guess our favourite skinlines are quite shared, although over time ive grown to like SG less and less, just feel like newer skins havent been quite up to par but still a very good one and the SG PVE event was amazing.But ohhh yea i really like that idea, we should definetely try to figure that out since it would make things more neat for sure.

Stacks off poisoning people... hmmmm, honestly either i didnt play back then, ooooooooooooor my memory is just really bad with Cass cause i have no idea about that. (Is that from back when she could still buy boots?)

Edited it in, thanks for suggestion ofc, seemingly pushes her just barely into 1k territory. Oh okay, yea those 2 work very well, will definetely include them and thanks for the heads up. Yea it really is nearly there, counted up and seemingly we have done exactly 108 profiles for now so only around 50ish left for main canon champions and perhaps a few more for non-champion main canon characters, kinda crazy to think about that really. Ima go get to editing those 3 for now and il inform you as i do.

Edit: Just got done with Eve and Viego, Viego ended up quite high truth be told but well, Ruined King after all, think i did everything right but cant be sure, have to leave suddenly so i cant double check him or do Lissandra to finish em all 3 off : /
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His clothes are just a bit too big and that's okay. Hmmmm, I'd imagine they could add some references to his work in the Latin American servers. Maybe correcting people on terminology in game. Otherwise just updating the textures on that skin would be enough.

Like, the effects for the cards that are attached to the champ change and you get a bunch of new voice lines and such. Just seems kinda strange to not do the transformation sequence as well. Make it worth the money.

Ngl, I mainly love Star Guardians because Lux and Ez are still in a relationship in that timeline and it's adorable. That and I like the Magical Girl stuff. It's just something to think about for now. Still got a ways to go.

Yeah, it was awesome. The more stacks you had, the more buffs you got to your mana regen and AP up to where when you hit like 750 stacks you got a nerfed rabaddons essentially. And she still had the no buy boots thing. Idk why they ripped it off of her, she wasn't broken due to the inherent nature of her play style making counter play fairly doable. Sad day for snek girl.

That's fine. Her and Kassy are supposed to be tough. Gosh, we are getting close to that end goal and then we can do the fun stuff! Looked over Viego and I'd probably add power bestowal, as his Ruining someone does grant them abilities, kinda like Bibidi's majin spell (if you know Dragon Ball). Maybe levitation too, but you already have flight, so that might not be necessary. Oh, I'd probably buff his intelligence by 10 or 20 points. He is pretty smart after all, even if he is kind of a one track mind. Evelynn looks great and I just realized I know the perfect boyfriend for her: Tibalt!

I've also got my stats in for Kha if you wanna let me know if I missed anything.
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Oh, yea thats a cool idea of what could work. Well tbf Riot would probably do him justice, especially after what they did to Fiddle skins with his rework, like damn, even the "bad skins" got quite an upgrade, and new suprise party might be my favourite skin in game overall. (If for nothing else then at least cause of his interaction with Gragas)

Yea honestly thats weird cause, tbf the transformations are the coolest/best part usually, especially on like the later cards, some champions who are old there have a bit lack luster transformation but damn, all the new ones (or especially Ascended) are just next level. And Riot has already done some great work with them, example Santa Braum level up in LoR, oh yea, thats what i want to see.

True, true. Even if i hated Star Guardian which i dont, it does have quite a lot of good parts to it. Tbf tho has been some time since the last Star Guardian batch, wouldnt be suprised if we got a new one this year.

Oh i see i ese, yea that sounds just like the ideal Cass fantasy of scaling to that lategame and just killing everyone. Is still absolutely out of my memory but definetely would like that more myself since i generally like scaling after all.

Mhm, Kassy prooobably even more so? Well we will see but at least in same range. Oh, i think i did already add it, both due to Ruined thing and because well, he literally did give MF her "Ruined" powers without even controlling her, but ye. And ye i know Dragon Ball, the little green guy that gave the Majin thing to Vegeta, Dragon Ball is very nice on average for me. Hmmm yea had the same thought process, perhaps il just give him lowest level levitation to be a completionist, and yeee perhaps i looked down on him a bit too hard, he is quite smart even if he is just a simp for Isolde ima go bump it up a bit. Oh, a fellow Demon pain enjoyer? Not hard to imagine those two would get along pretty damn well

Aight after taking a look the only thing i would maybe add is perhaps healing, purely cause he can heal himself if he hits his W in melee range, lowest level tho ofc but ye (You do already have accelerated healing so that could apply for it too but your choice really)

Oh and speaking of Power Bestowal, i think thats one thing we missed for Thresh, since well, he granted the "Ruined" powers to GP technically no? Wanted to mention it with previous comment but forgot cause was in a hurry and all that but ye
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I was always a fan of the Surprise Party Fiddle skin because it would make the death of a team look absolutely hilarious.

I mean, I love watching the transformations, so I would agree they're one of the best parts of the experience. Oh man, now I gotta get Santa Braum...

That line was popular there for a minute, surprised they haven't added in any new bad guy skins or something. Kinda not fair there's like 10 good guy skins and 3 bad guys. Totes introduce Taric into the line... He kinda fits perfectly.

It was a very solid mechanic and it's removal was so dumb. Cass went from being seen once every like 4-5 games to just straight up never being seen.

Kass'll probably hit in the 1.5k range if my estimates are right, but we'll see. Alright, he looks good now as far as I can tell. Good jorb! And yeah, Tibalt loves inflicting pain and receiving pain. They're the perfect couple.

I usually do vitakenesis only if they can heal others. I might give him the lowest level regen though, now that I think about it. He has regrown all the parts he lost to Ringo, after all.

I forgot that??? I will fix that right away and maybe change Thresh boy's pc. It just looks off, idk.

I also now wear a hat. Hehe.
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As an avid Fiddle enjoyer, i do quite concur, new one is just even better, especially for something that is still a 975 skin eventho they count it as a legendary

The power of poros and Braum, riot knew what to do

Gems truly would be outrageous, plus tbf they could just go into the full taric memes over there and make him overly glorious as hell, his ult is probably the among most fitting in game for a Star Guardian too

Can confirm, i played against her maybe like 10 times in last 2 seasons, and its always just when i pick someone like Garen or another immobile top so that i can experience the meaning of true despair. Besides that she dead af.

Mhm yea i imagine roughly 1500 myself. Aight damn, thanks thanks, maybe we remember something over time but yea. Probably the worst pair of people to get caught by, especially since just going around to torture someone would likely be the ideal date for them.

Hmmm yea makes sense. And yea that could work, since we dont know how fast it happened but still did.

I did feel it was always kinda off, maybe because it was a bit too zoomed out? Dunno, alas regular splash works well when all else fails!

Oh well damn damn, great job on the promotion alright! A most pretty hat that is
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They need more silly skins like the Surprise Party line. Amumu's is pretty great too, especially with the party blower thing being his q.

Yeah, Taric is the perfect choice for that line. And legitimately making him the flamboyant villain would be hilarious.

Yikes, that's a hard fall. Like her kit works, but it's just not very engaging, tbh.

Okay, good, we've got a similar picture then. I'll put in the rest of the Void bois tomorrow. Yeahhhhhhhhh. Tibalt is not a fun person to be around, although he was probably the worst Planeswalker ever made for a long time that he became a meme in the community. And now he has one of the best PW cards ever printed. He is laughing now.

Yeah, it was a weird angle too. I looked at his transform art in LoR too and that was an even worse angle, so default art it is. Le sad.

It was kinda out of the blue for me, but I'm not gonna complain. I can upvote requests now! And I can fill out Vi tomorrow without going through the edit request process. Plus the list of ones I wanna do as well. Fun.
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Mhm, that is one thing i kinda miss, "lately" there has been quite a lack of joke skins, they even cut out snowdown fully much to my dismay.

Holy shit, i didnt even think of that i just thought he would be the new member of Ezreal's group where he always tries telling him about gems, but the villain idea is much better.

Yeap, agreed.

Aight sure thing sounds good, i myself will just focus on whatever is left or whatnot and Noxus as they come out. Lol, yea the sudden glory, kinda like how Amumu was godawful for most of his existance but then they changed his Q into a charge system (like rumble rockets), so he ended up being a menace on the rift with those 2 Q ganks for a bit.

Yeeeeea, plus gonna be honest, his transformed art in LoR, the mask? Damn, i really do not like it, i think it looks so fucking bad, for sure among the worst ones in LoR imo.

Oh damn, yea thats great cause honestly i kinda really dislike asking to edit profiles, question tho can you edit Katarina too? Because uh she is actually one of the 3 profiles neither of us requested, i only added the image a while back cause i hated it looking empty. And mhm, indeed so, makes life much easier.
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But Snowdown is the greatest! Poro Rider Sejuani! Bard throwing penguins! I've seen they've done the Bee skins, which are cute, but that's not the same level of silly.

Okay, we've got a plan for now then. Oh, I didn't know they'd updated Mumu like that. That's a nice buff for our sad mummy boy.

The transition into the transformed art is good, but damn they picked the worst frame to stop it on. Hopefully they update it like they did Fizz's.

Oh yeah, I can update her as well, no problem. I'll try to get her and Vi knocked out today at some point. Let me know if there are any other empty profiles you think need updated.

*Edit, most of the way through Vi and Kat. What do you think?
*Edit 2, worked on Rek'Sai and Vel. The former came in a little low and the latter I think is about right, but I could be wrong. Vel's insane.
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Mhm, all i want is a snowdown skin of Ornn making a snowman in full a full outfit with gloves, hat everything, and then a Voli skin where we can see he has destroyed it by running it over. Honestly i have no idea how they havent given Ornn a joke skin yet, as an avid Ornn enjoyer i demand a silly skin because he is perfect for it!

Mhm, Amumu was actually really good in support for a bit when they changed that cause, level 1 he had two Q's all of a sudden which, made him a really good hook type champion while also having strongest 2v2 as a support, cause a bunch of damage and 2 stuns level 1.

Aight thanks a lot! And will do ofc ofc, i do have to ask tho, are there any profiles that arent updated yet that you'd like to do? Asking cause i requested some from freljord really early on (Like the demigods for example), so if you like any of them you can absolutely do them (Besides Ornn, he is my precious)

Both of them look pretty good, only thing i would change is give lowest level status effect inducement to Kat because she does apply healing reduction on her ult nowadays (for whatever reason)

Hmmm yea Rek'sai i expected to probably be around 900-1000 tbf, dont seee anything to add really tho. And Vel looks amazing, great job on him!
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Oh yes, that'd be prefect for him! Or maybe a Definitely Not Ornn skin where he dresses up like Annivia or Voli?

Oh dang, that is pretty stronk. Sad I missed out on that, although I'd probably still be playing Bard.

For right now, we can just focus on the new guys. When we roll back to the demis and ascended, we can figure out who can take who then.

Can do. I'll add that real quick.

Hrrmmm. I'll fiddle around a little bit. Maybe raise her base strength some. And great, thank you for looking over my work!
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Lol, i wish alright, especially since they haveeee kinda cut out doing april fools skin at all too, Bee's are kinda the only "common" joke skinline nowadays but they are more so just cute/adorable rather than, perfection that Ornn in a Voli/Anivia costume would be.

As we all should, Bard is Bard after all

Alright, sounds cool, i guess il just go deal with Vladimir then.

Aight cool, thanks ofc.

Nice, 800 is much better, well done again and ofc always happy to give it or anything a lookover! I have legit been starved out of talking about league with someone (as far as lore is concerned) for A WHILE now, so being able to discuss and do the entire adding the series here thing with you is just great honestly

Edit: Whelp, had to abruptly leave before finishing "Chadimir" so decided to not do his stats at all, rather only his bio, history and image, speaking of which, i already created a battle (we all know he is losing) just to be able to see how it looks, kinda split on whether i should change it to his splash or evolved LoR one, cause i feel this one better shows who he is as an invidivual but it also is a bit scuffed in old thresh one kinda way, buuuuut splash still has him wearing essentially clown clothes so he looks stupid...
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Man, I really like the joke skins, especially when my duo partner and I have come off a hard loss and there needs to be something to break the tension. Plus they're just fun.

I am always happy to talk League lore with anyone anytime. It's got some solid, interesting things going on with a nice mix of character power and scale. I think the pic you picked for him is a good choice. Shows him off without getting too cluttered with effects. And yeah, he do be wearin those silly Napoleonic-era duds, but I think that gives him a little charm, y'know? Sets him as being old fashioned.

Gonna get to work on good ol boy Kassadin now.
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Mhm, same alright same, dont remember if they announced any in that season 12 preview video but oh well, will rewatch it sometime later.

Yeap yeap, its a neat little thing that started as nothing but joke stories but at this point its somethig fairly unique-ish, plus it is the series ive been invested into the longest so oh well. Aight cool cool, and yea i do get the feel, it does help that every single one of his quotes is still just a blood pun.

And damn, that prediction sure was on point, he looks great too btw. I will probably go finish Vlad now, maybe Lissandra too but will see, coincidentally just woke up eventho its 4am, that sleeping pattern do be something.
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I just thought of this, but another fun skinline might be reversed alignments. Like Noxus Garen or Piltover Jinx. Idk, people love that kinda crap like Owlman and such.

I really like the idea of the Ruination event and such to flesh things out in an in-game way. I really want that Void event. And good, if that ever changed I would be broken hearted. Now that I think about it, he needs a Plasma Vlad where he's very clearly using the state of matter, but is still making blood puns unironically.

I did actually knock a few things down a peg because he was getting close to 2k and that was too high. The fact it came out at exactly 1500 made me laugh and I had to keep it there instead of fiddling further. I'll check out your work in the morning. It's late-ish here and I have a full work day tomorrow. Hooray.
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Well we do have Noxus poppy granted that was is a bit "dated" to say the least, still i would really enjoy that especially for some of them, like Freljord Kled could be very jokey, just a "redneck" yordle in tribal gear yelling about his property, while Skaarl could be just skaarl but with a winter jacket. (Because Skaarl must never be changed)

Same actually uh, i think purely idea wise that about as great of a thing Riot can do, let us actually interact the lore and gameplay together, closest we had is the bilgewater event which was great. I feel Ruination could've been an actually amazing event but the execution blew, first it was too hard to get points, then they patched it but also made it so easy to get points you can finish the entire thing in 20 games or so while it was supposed to be a couple month long event at start. Also doesnt help that the story kinda blew but yea... Anyways high hopes for the Void event and hope they integrate it into the game in some way. And mhm mhm, maybe Battle Boss Vlad could also work where he is just using data/matter instead of blood, with blood puns ofc.

Heh, ye, the perfect number has already been achieved and nothing really needed changing so, off it was. And whelp, those are painful but hey, best of luck and i guess il cya tommorow then

Edit: And both Vlad and Lissandra are done, damn does Lissandra have a lot of lore, which is good cause she is fun, among best in freljord. Still has nothing on tales of Ornn of course! But jokes aside really wasnt sure whether to put her as a tier 2 or 3, would love to hear your input on that, still put her as 2 for now because the freljord demigods are still treated as being fairly above her and her sisters and 3 is more so reserved for that level in league, if there was a tier 2.5 she would go there for sure imo.

Edit2: remembered something just before i left, but basically uh, all iceborn that use actual iceborn weapons should get some level of non-physical interaction, since true ice weapons are one of the rare things that can hurt wraiths and other ghost-like creatures, i think it was explained in Shadow and Fortune or Ruination event due to Olaf being able to cleave through and kill wraiths with his true ice axes.
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tigerkin2020 has decided digimon are high dimensional beings beyond reality so he's changing stats.
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Wat?? I mean, they're powerful, but like 200+ million powerful is silly. I mainly am aware of the og series and more recent games like Cyber Sleuth, but they're never treated like they're that powerful.
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I know i've watched all the series (Except frontier and data squad.) and its never shown.
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Yeah, like your scaling you detailed to me seemed to work very well from my experience with the franchise. But, I legit don't understand where this higher dimensional being stuff comes from. At least in my experience, the Digital World is treated as essentially a parallel reality and not some ridiculous 11 dimensional whatever. Like the millions stats makes sense for characters like the Four Holy Beasts, but not for Piedmon. He got wrecked by MagnaAngemon, iirc.
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He did and all he's done is pull from wikis.
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I read one of the pages he linked and it stunk of wankery, if you ask me. Like Beelzemon is strong, but he's not Odin strong.

I really wish this was in English: https://digimon.net/reference/ That's a primary source right there.
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Yeah,plus he's been quoting the reboot(Which bandi seems to be ignoring) for feats or beings like yggdrasil(The reboots version of the digimon god).
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I mean, the reboot stuff should just have seperate profiles labeled as such. Especially if things are so drastically different. And, I haven't watched it, but didn't everyone hate it anyways?
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It's not bad the story just sucks but the individual episodes are cool.

Also i recommend Karn EX and billiam as youtube channels about or that talk about digimon.
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I'll have to give it a look sometime. My friend that's more into the Digiworld told me to avoid it is the only reason I haven't seen it.

I'll check those two out, thanks. I'm definitely more of a novice with a spot of affection for the dinosaurs and army-like Digis.
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Thought the last one was getting a bit sizeable sooo, continuation here? (And 30 is a rather nice number)

Italy getting an update would be uhh, rather neccessary, cause to say the least they are in absolute meme territory at this point, having to play italy in multiplayer feels like being handed an ice cream but you only get the cone, especially when you look at those 50% effective military high command staff : /. And yes Imperator had great things going for it but, feels like a game still in development. Wont even talk about tribals, ive actually never played a full campaign as a tribal at all, tried playing in brittania once and instantly dipped out fairly shortly after.

Mhm yea thats more than fair, i only think about team comps and whatnot when im playing ranked but i truly will put effort to pick for the team of those champs i can actually play. Which just happens to be scalers 90% of time, and preferably AP or magic dealing champions, those are probably the 2 most common traits in "all" my picks

Hmmmm, i see i see, yea thats pretty cool lore, but oh well... One of these days il go through the video where they talk about their plans just so i can remind myself of all the champions they teased for this year.

Speaking of new champions they did release a new Zaunite adc like, 2 days ago, she is, kinda meh af lore wise. Gameplay wise god please help me i dont want her on my team because she can actually miss her autoattacks and is really not overloaded compared to most new releases, sooo she is kinda really really shit atm
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Fair enough,

I mean, Italy was the worst performing major power irl, so they should have negatives, but maybe a tree update could give a way to reform their military so it isn't utter shite. Like maybe something where Italo Balbo could take over from Mussolini? And a neutral path as well so they can do something if Austria Hungary and the German Empire get formed. Yeah, Imperator just needed more time in the oven. Too much that feels unfinished.

My roster is just whoever I happened to "click" with during playing in norms. Usually have some unique element to them, like Bard's chime collecting, or I think they're funny to play with like Teemo. Placing those Shrooms all around the jungle and helping a teammate get a kill with something I did 5 minutes ago feels great.

I'll give it a watch here. (Zaun ADC, "Dark Enchanter," some kind of Void jungler, and then the VGUs) I wouldn't mind them looking into maybe developing some minor nations/regions that only really need one or two champs to express their vision. And maybe drawing some ideas from their competition. For all of its flaws, Heroes of the Storm had some cool ideas, like the alien guy that sat at the back of the lane and provided support through minion spawning and long range buffs. Or the Warcraft dude that had his hunting partner and it worked really well without being overpowered.

Oh yeah, I saw her... Her kit looks super unimpressive and way too difficult to effectively utilize when you could just play another high maneuverability ADC like Quinn or Lucian and get better results. She's def an interesting idea, but the execution looks meh at best.

Started working on the newest batch. Yasuo and Trundle are finished(tm), if you wanna take a look.
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Oh ye ye ofc, at start should definetely have a modifier "utterly incompetent army" (or just shortened to "is italy in ww2") but over time yea alternate paths, since uhh, only way for italy to not be fascist through focus trees is if Germany assassinates Mussolini, which is uhh, i guess a possible path but you have 0 impact over of it happens if you play italy, plus it happens late af and yea... And then, Paradox nuked it, even thought about downloading it again today cause i felt nostalgic but, yeeeeeeea decided against it.

Yea yea same ofc, first in norms, and champs go into ranked only when ready, usually having like 2 champs for main, 1 for secondary role and then 1 just in case i get filled so i can be not absolutely lost. And ye ofc, playing minefield teemo is always fun, gotta max out that R cdr

True, and out of major regions, riot please give us some more stuff from Ixtal cause i mean, they consider it a major region but only really proper ixtali champion is qiyana. Mhm yea i know HOTS has some wack ideas, like those or the viking people that are played like 3 champions at the same time.

Mhmmm more or less, she is kinda, a stat stick adc in a way? Purely cause her kit does so little that she needs high af numbers to actually be good, reason why she is iirc around 37% winrate damn near autoloss rn

Ey very nice very nice, they both look great, expected a bit higher for our favourite and only troll but he is at the end of the day a big troll with an ice club so it works. Well done alright!
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Yeah, an Italo Balbo alt path that's fascist in a more cooperative way or maybe a commie take over could be cool. Maybe spurned on by a defeat in Ethiopia or something? And yeah, Victor Emanuel should have the capability to kick Benito out on his own power (as he did irl). Poor Imperator. Forevermore the black sheep.

The last time I played competitively, I had all my supps, which I had practiced into the ground (Bard, Taric, Soraka, Lux, etc..) and then a couple for the other lanes as well I was confident enough with. And I know everyone hates Teemo, but he's just a good map control champ that when you play it right, he's a boon throughout the game. And it's funny hiding in a bush near a camp and assassinating a buff right as the enemy jungler is about to get it. Then zoom zoom away.

Yeah, Ixtal seems like a grab bag of vaguely naturalist-ish themed ideas. Needs someone else to tie them all together thematically. Yeah, regardless of quality, they at least tried to think outside the box. Mine that graveyard, RITO! Or even something like that DC MOBA that burned and died. It had some cool champs and ideas as well, even if the main product was jank af.

Sigh, such wasted potential. Gonna have to tweak her stats a lot in the future, probably. Maybe make her charge her auto quicker? Idk what would help.

Yeah, Trundle feels low right now. Def gonna fiddle with him again later. The site just isn't kind to bruisers like him. And his two stories aren't exactly full of feats, especially when he internally admits he's a liar. Got Tryndamere done too and I'm working on Gnar right now while Udyr's gonna stay as is until that smexy VGU.
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Mhm yeap, all of those would work. Especially the ethiopia one hopefully cause truth be told i am the guy that mostly plays USSR and you already know i send volunteers to ethiopia on 1st day of the campaign, no better meme than pushing the talians out.

Over here mostly just Cho and Ornn for top, Veigar and Syndra as mid for the secondary role and then i can play Sona in support but i better not be put adc or jungle cause, yeeeeea things arent gonna be looking nice lets just say that. Mhm mhm ye, teemo is mad underrated most just hate him cause he is annoying but he is actually good in a weird way, there is this one teemo otp i hate facing, guy is too clean when it comes to teemo hard af to beat him. And yes, teemo stealing your buff and then just waddling away on his tiny legs at 1000000 movespeed is a major demoralizer, or a cause to laugh if the teemo is on your team.

Mhm, definetely need more people added to it, would be cool if we got Ne'zuk but he is kinda dead and riot doesnt release dead champions sooo eh. DC had a moba?? Didnt even have any sort of a clue that such a thing existed.

Honestly i dont think she can be helped in a simple way, probably just trying to tweak the numbers up quite a bit, cause i mean changing a champions kit in a meaningful way just as it got released would be uhh, quite a thing to say the least. Idk, as is she kinda doesnt offer the damage of the hyper carries, nor does she have mobility or gimmicks like Lucian or Samira. She just doesnt have a special part she is good at, she is kinda weak early, kinda weak midgame, and compared to Jinx or whonot late game just is blown out of the sky.

Mhm yea did quite notice the same thing alright, them bruisers dont be havin a great time cause realistically i imagined trundle to be around 150-200 or so. But yeeeaa... we gonna see i guess. And hey both gnar and tryndamere look great, great job!
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Lol, I've seen the Italian AI lose to Ethiopia a couple of times while I was busy doing the civil war in Germany, so it's already pretty hard for them. Lord. And an Italian tree paired with an aircraft designer would be a pretty good combo, as the Italians actually had some premium aircraft during the first years of the war.

I am not great mid tbh and I'm an okay Jungle at best. Mostly bot lane (adc or supp) or top for me. I think my best Jung was probably the pony man. I do like champs that can exert influence over a wide range of the map. I legit like Ashe with her E because I can be scopin out the map for my teammates. MAkes me feel like I can help wherever I am, even if it's just for vision.

They could always do what they did with Yone and have him come back as a shade or something. Or even just have Xerath do something to return his mind into an ascended form? Lots of possibilities. Infinite Crisis was the name of the game. The link's for their YT that has all of their champion profiles. It honestly just needed some more time in the oven and it could've been really good (mostly audio imo, it lacked oomph there). Leveling up your champ's passive was a thing and you could upgrade your already owned items in lane, although if you needed to buy a new one, you had to go back to the nexus. Really helped keep the pace up.

Yeah, I don't see em completely changing her kit right now. Probably gonna have to be a lot of number modifications and maybe some hit box expansions or the like. But, yeah, I don't see any reason to pick her as an ADC atm. Could she work as a jungler maybe? Just thinkin with that skating move she could pull off some good ganks.

That's where I was thinkin Trundle would land too. I'll definitely troll around (hehehe) for some extra stuff for him because he feels really low. Gnar feels a tad low too, but I couldn't find anything else and one of his stories is non-canon now (The one with Rengar), so all we have are things from his perspective, which is hard to discern some of the truth out of it. I really wish they had official art of him and his mega form too.

Finally got LoR up and running. Looks like it's got some stuff with the Worldbreaker line going. That's my kind of AU with giant monsters. Also gonna mine for the legendary characters, see if I can fill out the Freljord with them.
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Mhm, even if they were kinda a meme they can definetely make a great and interesting tree for them, hell they made lithuania focus tree pretty damn great, Italy definetely got more potential.

More or less Top/Mid, with support and jungle being playing, if you get me ADC dodge, cause yea i cant do right hand things at all so attack moving is "a bit" of problem. Oof, i always hated ashe the most out of all adcs, cause yea really not a fan of autoing and all that, only thing i play on adc is Jhin or MF because yea at least i can be of some use.

Hmmm yea, didnt even think of those, honestly id even be completely fine if Riot released champions who are legit just dead in the lore, could also allow them to actually progress some stories by killing off current characters but shhhh. Huh, it really do exist dont it, the more you know. And i see, i see, i probably wouldnt be too much of a fun since i prefer slower paced gamed (bring back season 5 pacing rito pls). Id still like it tho cause i love MOBA's but ye, league is the only one with a spot in my heart

Hmmm idk cause, considering how weak she is in terms of fighting people, i can already see someone picking idk, Hecarim or graves jungle and just walking right in and taking all the camps. Incidentally enough first thing riot is doing is, removing an interaction she has with runaans, so teeechnically nerfing her but ehh, much rather have them be overly safe than to have another aphelios release (no idea if you played back then but he could oneshot all 5 players on a team if he hit his infernum ult and only said ult)

Mhm yea, his mega form would likely land him around 150 but sometimes there just isnt enough stories, and tbf in Gnar's case, i dont remember the last time he got any lore updates. Pretty damn hard to work with either him or Trundle to be fair

Eyyy nice nice, i havent logged in some time due to grinding league and all that so didnt even have a clue the wordlbreaker line got added there to, always enjoyed it for what it was. And ye go all for it, Freljord is a fine region (as long as you dont play Ionia we shallnt have any problems, because that region should be deleted from existance in LoR)

Edit: Whelp after my several day absence ive gone and updated Lillia and Ivern, wasnt sure if Ivern should be tier 1 or 2 because well, he doesnt have anything too direct but he is still technically the God Willow and one of the oldest spirits in Ionia sooo, i have him at 2 for now but if ya feel thats a bit much feel free to mention and il put him down a notch. Oh and almost forgot, Nami, Nunu and Nautilus look great! If anything Nunu could maybe go to tier 2 if he does some nice stuff in his game since Willump is supposed to be very important in freljord but we gonna see i guess

Edit2: And oh forgot even more, is your Ahri Ustat fully updated, so that i can go and add it in? Mb for taking so long if it is just had to ask first : /
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There definitely needs to be a full on Italian world conquest tree that adds an option for your infantry to wear Roman legionary helmets. I like the meme stuff alongside my serious history game. And yeah, Lithuania was pretty cool. I hope they add trees for Argentina and Brazil. Be cool for SA to have something happening, even if it is just getting to send volunteers.

Oh, everyone loves Jinx. She is like the only ADC I know that no one really had a serious complaint with her. And yeah, MF is good. She was a suprisingly decent supp occasionally. 🀭 Never took that to ranked, though. I am terrible at any champ that absolutely requires comboing abilities. Idk if it was just my laggy connection, but I just can't do it.

I mean, they could just label them as legacy champions or the like? I mean, they operated off of the idea GP was dead for a while. And I wouldn't mind seeing them kill off a champ or two. It's not like it means they remove em from the game or anything. Oh, I prefer the more methodical pace too. IC was just more focused on Hero combat and skirmishing, so being able to update your items in lane was important to keep the game moving. Kinda sad to see that one and Heroes of the Storm die. They were good, although LoL is def the best imo.

Hrrrrm. Just trying to come up with alternate play positions for her. She is a neat idea and I like the way her kit appears to interact, but it just looks lacking and simple number changes feels like the worst way to buff her. Oh yeah, I played against Aphelios. I legit hate him. He was so gimmicky and hard to play against. Again, neat idea but having all those weapons made it hard to know how to effectively fight him at all times. Probably gotten easier since then, but I hated him.

Yeah, Gnar's mega is implied to be around Yeti power levels, but I have nothing to go on. Really wish they could have him meet Nunu or something so they could tussle and become friends. And yeah, Trundle's only story outside of his bio is an eating contest. He outwits a troll, but not much there for feats outside of learning they have strong stomachs.

I just like they're gonna bring the skins in and we get some lore for the alt universes too. I'm excited for when we get to the AUs. I've only been playing the story mode stuff because it gets me cards quicker and lets me get acquainted with the mechanics. I've only played with/against Zaun/Piltover, Demacia, Noxus and the Freljord factions so far. Haven't touched Bilgewater or Ionia yet. I do wanna build a Nautilus deck, though. He looks fun.

Understandable. Ivern looks good. I honestly expected him to land in the mid hundreds. Lillia I know nothing about, so I can't really weigh in on her. Yeah, Nunu's stories are a little light on feats with some tier 2 implications, but nothing truly solidly putting him there, so 1 felt good for now. I'm gonna def play his game and be taking notes the whole way through. I really enjoyed Nautilus's stories and then I found out he also fought off 50+% of a Harrowing by himself was super awesome. And thanks! I also didn't realize I did all N's. πŸ˜‚ Also, the Freljord champs are all updated. What faction/region do you think I should tackle next?

Yessir, my Ahri Ustat is fully updated.
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Well ofc! Gotta restore the glory of Rome! No Italy in any game should miss out on that possibility. (Ideally one of the possible Rome leaders should be a guy wearing an Aurelian-esque helmet because yes). And yes anything for SA, because only thing they offer right now is late game lag when peru and venezuela join the axis so the US starts pumping troops down there. And about volunteers, wouldnt be opposed at all, might be a bit of a weirdo myself but i do actually quite enjoy just playing as some random nation and only sending volunteers to the losing side to try to turn the tide.

Oh yea yea, i remember the times MF was played support cause, people in proplay did it to counter Zyra. Only time ive ever played MF in any role aside from ADC is once in mid because, i got hostaged into playing mid after ive picked my champ. But yea uhh combos, wifi aint nearly as bad as yours but 70ish constant ping more or less so my combos are, Chogath Q, if it hits combo done, if not, well, yea

Yeap, completely agree. Mhm i see i see, and yea it is a shame alright, especially since well MOBA's in a (DOTA/League) type sense kinda dont really exist that much besides well, DOTA and League. Or well they exist but like HOTS and IC who are kinda dead af

Aphelios is, easier now or well for people who played him, and well to play against him is easier since well nobody needs to read 5 pages of info to figure what he does, still yes neat idea and i mean its good Riot is trying to innovate with adcs cause, truth be told it is rather hard to make a different adc and keep them and others balanced cause if someone is better at doing DPS there is usually no reason to pick any other adc, assuming one is playing purely to win but hey Riot has been good with differentiating them for a couple years now so it aint as much of a problem as it was.

That would be neat, i can already imagine Gnar and Nunu riding on top of willumps head, which is pretty adorable even if Gnar is the demon of toplane (not counting vanye that creature is above a demon in top). And uhuuuh i know : /, MAYBE, with the entire Udyr rework and freljord being an important lore focus this year we get more but, yeeeeeeeeeeeeea.

Mhm yea i do enjoy that quite a bit alright, AU's will be quite fun, especially some naturally. Mhm i see, well hey story mode is really fun over there and riot is pretty generous when it comes to attaining cards, especially if compared to hearthstone or whatnot. And ye Naut deck is almost like exodia of LOR, if you end up reaching that Deep point you turn into a nearly unstoppable deck.

Aight thanks a lot! And yea Nautilus is pretty darn dope, a much different champ from when he used to be a, drowned guy in a metal suit and huh, a rather funny coincidence. And well first uhh, great job ofc, secondly, which region you like the most? That should be the most important part really. If i guess you dont have any real preferences maybe Shadow Isles due to already knowing a lot about it and us only really needing to add like, 2 more shadow isles champions to finish it? But ofc, whatever region you like the most just go and do it. (Although i might snag a champion or two depending on which region cause yea favourites and whatnot)

Ah okay, well thanks again ima go update her rn. Edit: Update done
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And I mean, if people don't want the memes, just add a toggle. Oh, and if/when they add stuff to SA, they need to have a Paraguay tree that tries to conquer Brazil and Argentina for the giggles. And I get the volunteer thing. It presents a challenge, gets your troops XP and it makes you feel like you're part of a larger effort. It's one of the few selling points for the American Civil War in Kaiserreich.

I don't really pay toooooo much attention to competitive play so that seems like a wonky counter to me. Zyra supp is super annoying for the opposing team, I will concede. And hey, that's a combo in my book!

Yeah, I think there was only ever room for 2 competitors and everything else was gonna shrivel on the vine. The games take too much investment in time for many to be able to flourish.

Yeah, he's a neat idea and the ADC concept was always going to be the most narrow. There aren't that many types of ranged weapons and the role usually, as you said, comes down to who has the highest DPS. 😞

Ohhhhh yeah, that'd be stinkin cute. I could never get Gnar to work for me, so I don't have a huge ton of experience with him except trying to murder his cute little self. Hey, maybe we can actually get the Avarosans and Winter's Claw to come to actual blows and Lissandra can get off her butt to do something.

Yes, I've been very happy with the pace I'm getting cards. Don't feel like I have to drop cash to get ahead. Oooooo, Nautilus! Obliterate!?

I still want to believe he's just a suit piloted by a team of Poros, but vengeful diving suit revenant the size of a ship will do as well. Oh, yeah, makes sense to finish off the Shadow Isles as they're nearest completion. Couple tackle Bilgewater too afterwards. Don't really have any regions I specifically like (except coincidentally Freljord), but I do know I dislike Noxus (except for Sion b/c I think his Lumberjack skin is funny).

She looks good!
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Mhm yea, paraguay could be the "meme nation" in SA with that tree, and perhaps Chile could also have an achievement where you need to conquer all of the pacific facing coastal provinces because, long chile. Ah Kaiserreich, the probably best HOI4 and almost paradox game mod if you ask me, only trumped by Game of Thrones mod for CK2.

Yea uhh, i dont follow it too often myself, and i dont really remember why it was, granted i also wasnt that good of a player back when it was a thing 3ish or so years ago so, even if i did remember id probably remember the wrong parts. Yea, take that Ryze players, we can hit combos too! (Poor Ryze still hasnt been good in a couple years now)

Yeap, and in the end its DOTA and League, which well, i would say are the best but, yeee league player so easy to call "bias" on that.

I always hated playing ranged tops or any champion that relies much on autos soo, Gnar is stuck in the 5-10 game purgatory forever more or less. Mhmm, cause tbf Freljord lore has more or less been frozen (ha, ha, ha) for a reeeally long time now, Ornn was the last big addition to it and itssss been some time.

Nah thankfully not, LoR is great in that department.

Riot really needs to make a poro champion skinline, or just add a santa Nautilus where he is full of poros, wearing a christmas hat and a bag full of present as his anchor, tbf i wish riot added any more christmas/snowdown skins buuuut yeea they kinda dont. Mhm yea Bilgewater seems pretty damn done too soo, yea those work. About Noxus aight sure i can finish them after i get done with Ionia, you want to do Sion or? (Lumberjack sion is simply one of those skins where the concept is too good to be anything but perfect, so yes, absolutely)

Aight thanks once again ofc!
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Brazil def needs an achievement to conquer Portugal and its colonial empire. And yeeeesssss Long Chile. Maybe they could do something for Cuba too? Yea, Kaiserreich is so dang good. The WW1 mod was good too. I never dipped my toes into the GoT or LotR mods for CK2, tbh. Mostly did mods that added culture crossovers.

Aw, poor Ryze. I remember him getting a resurgence for a bit right after his rework, but then he fell off pretty hard over time. I remember fighting a supp Ryze and that was one one of the easiest bot lanes I ever had to deal with.

I do think a Super Hero themed MOBA could work really well. The power sets are virtually endless there and plenty of stuff to mine from. Just, y'know, make it have good game play feel.

Urgod top was the closest thing I did to ranged top, haha. And yes, very good pun. But, yeah, it's felt like they've had this pot about to boil over for forever and it just never goes anywhere. All I have to say is...


Thank god, lol. Kards is good in that regard as well.

Yes! More Poros. Poro skin for every champion!!! And yes, Santa Porotalis sounds perfect. Havin Poros just burst out of the suit when he dies like they're abandoning ship. πŸ˜† Yeah, I think Bilge really only has GP, Graves and TF left (I'll add in a Ruined variant of GP as well if I can find a good profile pic). so I can knock them out real quick. And yeah, I can tackle Sion if you don't mind.
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Well for Cuba i imagine joining the comintern and researching nukes would be like a very easy type achievement that could be done, but well first we need any SA content, cause for now SA is just free puppets for Spain/Portugal in their alternate focuses. Mhm i see i see, and yea ww1 mod was pretty good (truly gave the ww1 feel of trench warfare with the negative soft attack in infantry divisions)

Yeeeea, he has kinda been in the gutter for a while now especially in last 2 seasons since they removed Rod Of Ages and similar items he used so he kinda just gets blown up too fast.

Yea yea, plenty of potential, just gotta have that good execution

It has been time for that by now so, yeee. At least give us another slap fest between Voli and Ornn, pack in Anivia in there too this time just so it isnt the same but honestly just anything for freljord, because only Olaf has been consistently doing things, but 80% of all he has been doing aint even in freljord!

Hmmm i see, never played the game and barely even know it of but its always nice to hear

Ye ye, and just for an extra adorable effect one of the poros must be late in exiting the suit so the others hurry back up to help him, because poros are awesome. And yeap hopefully you do find a good image and ofc feel free to take Sion, all yours chief

Ah also, some teasers have come out for the next champion ALREADY, i didnt expect to see anything for at least 2-3 months considering Zeri came out literally 2 weeks ago or so. Anyways yea got like a short website giving hints at who she is and an image teasing her appearance. (finally might be a real Zaunite villain, and no i dont count WW cause he got Singed while Urgot is a Noxian hero obviously)

https://www.glascindustries.com/en-us/

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Yeah, that'd make a lot of sense as an achievement. I just really wanna see all the minors that did stuff in WW2 or had the potential to do something get trees. Like Iraq tried to join the Axis and stuff like that. Yeees, it made it very grindalicious. I also know there's been work on a Timeline 191 mod, be interested to see if that ever happens properly.

Noooooooooooo. I didn't know they removed RoA. How could they!!! 😒😰😭😭😭

Maybe they could bring in a Watcher champ to instigate things? I know we've gotten Watcher cards in LoR, but feels kinda weird for them to not have an in-game rep in the main game with how important they are. And yeah, pretty much just Olaf and Braum doing stuff. The others are just chillin, apparently.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss. Poros gotta watch out for each other. According to RK, they are also masters of stealth (or at least Braum's poro is). Sweet. I'll finish up the Isles (both Shadow and Serpent ) and hit up Sion as well. Gives me some goals for the near future. Oh, what do you think of Ol' Tahm?

Wow, that was freaking fast. Guess she's gonna be prefume based? Maybe be that "dark" support they were speaking of? Cause I can see that being used for both buffs and debuffs. Urgot is the champion of all people. He's helping them rise up against the true evil: society!
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Yea, uhh, at least some small focus trees that allows them to do things, because the base focus tree is kinda ass (although that 7.5% recruitable pop...).

Not the only item that was nuked... in season 10 they reworked the items so, a lot of new ones were added, and a fair ammoutn were removed, almost every item was removed/added or changed.

Hmmm, yea perhaps, or maybe just some insane person that wants to free the watchers and unleash them onto the world, just in case they see adding an actual full Watcher as "too big of a move".

(sounds to me like Braum's poro deserves a profile of his own!). Aight aight very cool then. About Tahm, id say he looks good for most part, only thing i would change is perhaps amp his combat and power a bit, since well he has existed for at the very least several thousand years, so eveeentho he doesnt directly fight people his combat should be a bit higher imo, like 55-60? Besides that, i would give him force shields since well he can create them in game when reactivating E technically speaking. And probably non physical interaction since well as a full demon he should be able to touch souls considering Azakana can do it and whatnot. Oh and almost forgot, i would give him low level "magic" purely cause well by the nature of being more a spiritual entity than a human he should have it eventho he doesnt technically use it. Ofc feel free to call me out on any of my suggestions if you think i am capping.

Mhm yea more or less perfume based, perhaps some weird sorta thing where she gives over-time heals/amps that get stronger as time passes, kinda like a reverse Nasus W? Yes! Urgot is trying to save them all from the enemy they do not even understand exists, he is but the only hero in the world!
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Even if they just did like regional focus trees that anyone in that region got with like some focuses changed out for specific movements or political ideologies. Idk. I wanna play outside of Europe more, but so little of it is fleshed out.

Great, I'm gonna have to do a bunch of relearning now if I can get a better collection. I hope it doesn't impact Tankmo's viability!

Ult could be like the worshipper or whatever assuming the form of a Watcher? Maybe make it to where they assume a different Watcher form based on their build or something? Idk, there's def something cool you could do there.

I'm legit tempted, lol. I do think the Poro King deserves one once we get through with the major regions and factions. Oh my gosh, I can't believe I missed all that stuff! This is why it's best to do universes as teams. I did make one minor alteration to your suggestion and put his magic as Dark Magic on high, because he is an inherently magical being. Probably should add magic resist at medium as well, now that I think of it.

Maybe if they're all AoE effects like that, they could change effect where they interact, or would that be too complicated?
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Yea yea like a scandinavia focus tree, with some really minor differences, example being idk, Norway has a small tree giving them buffs to their navy, Finland gets one for winter attrition and similra stuff while sweden maybe can start mining more resources in the north.

Well well, id say id pioneer forth and limittest it! But my accounts mmr is too high for me to be confident in my tanko potential... so, perhaps i borrow a friends account to do it for glory of tankmo ofc.

Mhm yea, we definetely need something with Watchers, what exactly, dooont know but, we do need it. Only unfortunate-ish thing is that Velkoz ult is the perfect thing for a watcher but, its already velkoz's so yea, speaking of which he is one of the champions that got a VFX update and damn, his new ult looks really damn fucking good, like cream for eyes.

Poro King for sure, for absolutely sure because yes. I mean hey, you missed those but then you also improved on my suggestions so, like yea, and yes on both i think both work for sure. But yea uh, working together is infinetely better, i mean for fucks sake i missed GADGET USAGE on Viktor.

Hmmmm, id say rather than doing that, what if they were aoe effects that can hit both allies and enemies, allies getting buffed and enemies nerfed? Only other ability that works like that i can remember is seraphine ult iirc so it would be fairly unique too?
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Yeah, just simple things like that. They've already kinda implemented the concept with the PRC and RoC, so it's not a crazy idea in the slightest.

Lol, I might just put LoL on my laptop so I can try it out at work on my lunch. Tankmo must rise again!

I guess they could just say Vel is like the Void's imitation of the Watchers or something? They do have legs and bodies, based on the cards in LoR. Ohhh, I'll have to check that out, but now I'm imaging a Cow'Koz skin where his ult sprays cream/milk at the enemies, who die of pure disgust.

Yesh, Poro King must rise. I think too with where Tahm and the t3 champs have landed so far, we have a pretty good idea now of where the other demi-gods/demons should land. At least as a baseline. And yes, having someone to double check def helps out on these type of things. Brain farts are no good.

Yes, that could work very well too. Be less of a head ache for the programmers as well. Here's hoping we get a skin for her that replaces the perfume with bottled farts.

Think this would work for a Ruined GP pic?
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Oh yea right they did, kinda even forgot about that, and tbf the entire China area is one of my favourite ones to play (outside of europe)

Mhm yea i guess that is possible, and tbf games are GENERALLY, shorted nowadays, although i did also have a 55 minute slog yesterday but shhh

Could be a solution yea could be, i did always feel like Vel is a bit special compared to other voidborn we have, others feel like they are more just monsters why he feels like he has a more direct purpose for the void if that makes sense? And yea i mean, any cow skin is instantly, otherwordly if it has cow sounds like moocow alistar.

Mhm yeap yeap, all of those should be generally in that area and seemingly they are so hey, thats pretty good. Overall id say we are doing a pretty damn good job with the series, more or less everything seems to match up (besides folk like Trundle and whnot being a bit too low but ye...)

Yes, BUT, Singed must also be a part of it, i mean just imagine how great a skin is where you litereally get to fight a bald league version of crackhead running at 500 Movespeed while he kills you with farts, beautiful.

Mhm yyea looks pretty good (I guess the mist made him even more swole, granted he always kinda was just hard to see it)
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My only problem with playin in China is I always end up devolving to infantry spam and grinding the Japanese away that way and it's just not super fun. πŸ˜‘

I get an hour lunch, so I should be fine theoretically. I could always do ARAMs to get a handle on the items, but then I don't get guaranteed the Mo. Hrm.

Yeah, Vel feels more like an individual compared to the others. As much as I want more Freljord content, I would also like more Void content, even if it's just in LoR or something. And yes, that skin would have to be a full SFX rework.

Consistency is key. I did go back and touch up Trundle some more. I upped his combat a tad and gave him low regen, seeing as he should be able to regrow fingers and other extremities. I also looked into his club and it technically has durability negation, as it encases whatever it hits in true ice. Gave him like 20 extra points, so that's something.

Yes, truly the dream... I was gonna say we need a whole fart team, but the ADC'd have to be Twitch (although you can argue his base skin is already his fart skin).

Yeah, he def been workin out. I might see if I could get one of my friends that does photoshop stuff to give it a spoopy background or something so it's not just gray.
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Yeeeeeeea, trueee, i guess not quite the same scenario since i am lucky enough to have a small group of friends that all enjoy HOI4, so when we play china we all play as different wardlords while someone plays as japan, a lot of memes were made in that scenario.

Oh yea you should be more than fine then. Almost no game lasts 50+ minutes, ive had maybe 2 last that long in several months now, and, i am pretty sure riot doesnt actually punish people for leaving games after around 40 minutes or so, it is still highly unsportmanlike tho but yea...

Yea, well yknow, new void champ, definetely new void stuff gonna arrive, but for now i guess we get even more zaun stuff but well thats cool too.

Mhm yea good job good job, looks nice, will try to occasionally look at some of those i updated to see if there is anything to fix, coincidentally enough did find that i kinda bugged out both Kayle and Morgana's history tabs so fixed that earlier today. But yea this is better for trundle alright, well done!

Hmmmm, yea his base skin would ironically enough probably fit the skinline about as good as it gets, but hey, considering people are also playing AP Twitch in the ADC at times nowadays, the dream definetely exists of a poison fart team being playable

Yea yea that would be great, i am actually pretty good at editing images and whatnot, or well, was, i havent rendered stuff in quite a while so yeea... But hey you can try hitting up the friend, if he is busy or anything i can try working something out ofc.
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Yeah, I'm the only one in my friend group that plays HoI4. Well, I know one person, but they always wanna play as Nicaragua and conquer the world while I supply them. Ugh.

Oh, I'd never ditch a game like that, but I'll keep that in mind and stick to just norms/bots. Not gonna jeopardize my teammates's ranking for the lols.

Zaun's fine, I guess. Should be expected with Arcane drawing attention to it. There are just so many things that need to be fleshed out, or at least expanded upon and now that they have multiple games (and a show) to do it with, they should seize that opportunity!

For now, I think that's as high as Trundle's gonna go, unfortunately. They need to give us some more lore for him. And like 100 other champs. The sisters look good to me.

Oh lord, AP Twitch is a thing now? I had a friend 3 or 4 years ago insisting that was the future.

Feel free to mess with the image if you like. I just want Buffplank to look nice in his profile pic so maybe Illaoi will take him back.
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Unfortunate, very unfortunate, nothing better than memeing it up in HOI4 multiplayer after all. (Especially when it comes to sending those random volunteers and also praying Austria refuses anschluss every time someone plays germany)

More than respectable alright, one way or another i do wish you best of fun with tankmo

Agreed agreed, while Zaun is alright (like a mid tier region to me when it comes to how much it interests me), it would be much appreciated if they also worked on other parts buuut yea.

Yeeeea, rip King, judge, jury and execute troll... of all trolls ofc. And yes i mean some champions REALLY, need lore, cause some champions just really dont do anytihng. And ye ye, their stats and everything is completely fine, there were just some spelling/grammar mistakes in the history that i had to fix.

Yeeeeeeeeeeap... Its actually, pretty damn good too into squishy comps because his E does absurd ammount of damage on full stacks now

Alright alright, ima try playing around with it a bit to see what i can do, btw do you know how to crop images yourself to make them fit more nicely into profiles or?

Edit: Thought that maybe adding a bit of a bilgewater background and cropping it around a bit so its more centered would work, any thoughts? (Feel absolutely free to mention it if you think i should alter it around a bit or even completely, the hardest part is already done so re-editing the thing is rather easy. Plus i really enjoy doing things like this so its completely cool)

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I legit had a game where the AI accepted all of Germany's demands and the game just kinda went


I must revive my effective meme-build! Please tell me lifesteal Mundo isn't a thing, though. That would break my heart.

Yeah, Zaun and Piltover were never regions I wanted them to expand upon. I mean, I'm okay with it, but Demaglia, Shurima and others need (a lot) love too!

Yes, Troll King needs at least another story. Like maybe him leading a raid against the Avarosans/Winter's Claw so we can see how he stacks up against their champions. No clear winner needed ofc.

I do know how to crop and such basic things. I've figured out how to clean up images too, but I'm a baby novice at best. And holy crap that looks great! If you're happy with it, I will gladly use that for Ruined Gang Plank when I request it in the next batch! Freakin great job!
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God forbid one plays a democracy in a game where Poland accepts Danzig, no experience is more sad than waiting for ww2 that aint coming

Well, i can happily announce that lifesteal mundo is not a thing at all, that build would probably be as much of an int as just playing disco nunu.

True true yes, they are fine (and arcane did insane work) BUT, id prefer if arcane was based in a lot of different regions or champions

Mhm mhm, yea just that would be plenty, even just having him fight against a mammoth like Olaf or Sej or some other giant creature of Freljord would be extremely nice.

Ah i see i see. Whew, happy to hear that, and yea i am more than happy with how it turned out, just kinda wasnt that confident since well, havent done it in a while so had to ask but aight, always up to do something similar and very glad it turned out good!
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Yeah, it's def a moment where you're like, welp gotta start a new game.

Yeah, that was def a feeder build. The guy really thought it could work, though.

Yeah and they probably just focus tested or whatever to figure out which region would draw the most attention. And those two cities are fairly unique for a fantasy-ish setting. Ngl, I did not like the version of Jinx on display. She didn't feel fun, just psychotic. If that makes sense.

Maybe he'll get something in the Nunu game. We can only dream.

No, it seriously looks great. Makes the profile pic look much better when it isn't just a void.

Just watched the reveal for Renata... Idk how I feel about her. The W feels ripe for abuse, especially if you imagine it going on Tryndamere immediately after her finishes his ult. And the Ult seems kinda gimmicky? Like def useful and potentially impactful, but just off.
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Mhmmm, playing Japan and actually having China actually concede is also annoying as all hell, especially in some games where cheezy shit happens and UK guarantees them.

Well.. hopefully he had fun i guess..

Uh no i actually fully agree, our jinx is far more, uh, jokey in a way, Arcane jinx was... too "extra" when it comes to being crazy, i also found her kid version INCREEEEEEDIIIIBLY annoying, like insanely insanely annoying, sooo, overall kinda really disliked all stuff between Vi and Jinx. (Besides in act 1, in act 1 Vi was great)

Perhaps yea

Whelp, if ever in the future we need to do somethign like that just feel free to hit me up and il try ofc.

Yeeaa uhh, i really REALLY, dislike her W and R, like, damn, i feel she will not be able to be properly balanced because, her base stats and rest of kit need to be absolute shit, for well, a revive and a possible 5 man 1.25-2.25 second Stun (with attacking own team dlc) to not be broken. Overall really not looking forward to her being released.
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Definitely a country version of getting blue balled.

If it wasn't a ranked game, I would've been okay with the memery.

Oh yeah, baby Jinx was just ignoring and the whole blowing up her friends "by accident" felt super contrived. And yeah, Jinx being jealous of Caitlyn was just dumb. And yeah, act 1 Vi was great.

Again, beating Trundle at a game of Trivial Pursuit to save the Freljord is a great idea.

Awesome, good to know!

Yeah, she looks like she's gonna be a nightmare to play against. Maybe if the W didn't have the way to avoid the burning death? Might help. The rest of her kit looked fine and reasonable, though. Maybe they're trying to compensate for Zaun girl being lackluster too?
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Ohhhh, rannnked you say, yeeeee we all got those "nice" memories, honestly tho, the only thing that can make it worse and by a lot is if someone more or less ints the game but then also votes no, i have "quite a dislike" for those that never vote yes : /

Yea more or less agree on all, always liked Vi in regular lore an okay ammount but in act 1 was far better, after thaaaaat thoo uhhhh... It all kinda felt filler and rushed, like her relationship with Cait felt rushed af, they essentially fell in love in 1 afternoon and they started on "shaky ground" to say the least. Truthfully as time went on i liked the Jinx/Vi/Cait parts less and less, just gimme that good ol Jayce, Viktor and Silco and im perfectly happy. (Silco was also kinda boring in act 2 since he didnt do much but act 3 put him back into things again so that was great)

Lol, yes that is absolutely anoying i can already imagine it, clubs away, and then for the next boss we can have lissandra and then the electric bear himself for the final boss. Just dumb but funny Freljord shenanigans.

Mhmmmm, the idea i had is for her W to have like a charge up time of like 1.5 seconds for example, where the ability would first need to well, charge up for a bit similarly to taric ult so that its still possible to kill the high priority target before Renata W's them, it also gives actual interaction for Renata because she can fuck up the usage of W since if the team see's the charge up they could just back off when its not timed effectively. I think thats a nice change that wouldnt fundamentally change the ability but would also give actual counterplay to it besides just "kill the person twice"
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Yeah, really hate the people that can't see the writing on the wall. Or are just there to screw everyone else over. There are games I won't surrender because I think we have a chance to win if we just get a couple of good plays in, but then there's lifesteal Mundo and his partner jungle Taric.

Idk if it's just me, but I really didn't get a romantic feeling from their relationship? And like, it really plays into some unfortunate stereotypes with female cops. Idk, I think that's best avoided for them. And yeah, for sure, getting to see the evolution of Jayce and Viktor's relationship was pretty great. And I wish Silco could've stuck around longer. His death felt kinda outta left field? Idk.

I legit want Nunu to be making friends with all of them too. He's just such a pure soul.

That is definitely a better way to do it, I agree. Enemy team needs time to be able to counter something that is so strong and can just be put on anyone at any time. And maybe if her ult just affected the first enemy hit? And in exchange, it buffed attack speed for allies in the line and lasted longer than it does currently? It just strikes me as such an easy ult to abuse.
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Tbf, uh, over time ive grown to prefer ffing games that are even just very unlikely to be won because well, more often than not people know how to hold their lead and win their games in this rank and i just hate wastin time but yeeeeeeeeea

The romantic feel, feels kinda forced cause, it happened too too fast, especially due to how opposite they are compared to each other at the start, i mean Vi essentially brought Caitlyn to a "strip club" in Zaun and so they fell in love, they shoulda definetely made it something that takes more than 1 and a half episode but yea. And uhh, yea absolutely agree, really wanted to see Silco do more and now that he is gone idk, season 2 feels like it will have to add onto someone who is even better of a villain than Silco but usually that doesnt pan out good in sequels, and if its just more Jinx crazy shit then yeeeeea not too high expectations for season 2

True, and Willump ofc, the most wholesome pair in all of runeterra (besides Braum and his poro)

Mhm yeap cause, even in worst case scenario, it is still a 1.25-2.25 second team wide stun, like even not counting the entire ATTACKING YOUR ALLIES, part, just that alone is strong af especially due to how hard to miss the ability is, its possible to dodge ofc but, if that gets used for a dragon/baron fight and you arent playing a champion with a dash, you are most likely getting hit. And thaaats kinda the main problem i have with the design cause, even if she is 0/100, actually like 0 items bought afk for last 30 mins, since the ult and W revive dont have any real scaling value that depends on Renata herself, her playing badly and falling behind doesnt matter that much because the ult has no scaling but it will always do the stun/berserk, and the W will always give a bootleg GA to someone on the team giving her massive value even if behind af.

And i know its a bit off topic, but i really disagree with people that think Riot should add more "experimentative" champions because under quotes "it makes the game more complex and interesting". I fully disagree with that, becaues now until she gets nerfed, why would you pick any other support in most cases, unless her numbers are so bad that you cant even interact with anyone and are only a W/R bot which isnt fun for Renata either, she will be the best in most situations effectively removing an okay number of supports as viable options if you are trying to win. Uh sorry if you dont care about me talking about gameplay that much i just reeeeeally had to get the "rant" out of my system : /
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And here we are, thanks for checking out Vayne ofc

Ima save extra requests till i finish these, any plans on which requests you gonna go for?
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Keine problem.

No, makes sense. I'm doin Poppy and Sej for now. I'm working on rereading a couple books for a couple of MtG characters, so I wanted to pick a couple I'm familiar with.
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I see i see, well hopefully they get accepted soon, and ofc do tell me when you are done with them, both are pretty great after all. Mhm i see i see, yea MtG was always a series i wanted to get into but seemed, just to massive to get into, soo never really did, have fun tho ofc.
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Will do. It usually takes a few days to get em, as you know.

Yeah, Magic is... complicated with a ton of lore both in cards, books and stories. And then it's hard to find good matchups for them outside of like LotR.
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Ye ye indeed.

Hmmmm, i seeeeeeee, yea probably just a backpedal sorta thing then, if it happens it happens.

Oh also finished Kayle and Morgana. Noooow, i am not quite sure if i want to request more charcters, or add the stats for those that are already here, i guess best would be to do both since it well takes some days anyways?
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I had noticed they'd gotten an update. Looked about where I expected them to fall. The more human characters like Jhin and the ninjas shouldn't be too tough to do. Let me know if you want my input on any of em.
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Ah okay yea, kinda expected the same really cause yea far weaker than actual aspects, much stronger than most humans, and honestly im really happy with how the series is turning out for now, id say everyone looks about where there roughly should be.

And yea uhh thats a good idea, i will do Jhin, Kusho, Zed and Shen next, they are all pretty connected and much easier imo than someone like Yi.
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Really surprised they never made a Master Yee skin πŸ˜‚

But, yeah, those guys are fairly straightforward.
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In my headcanon it was supposed to be our last ultimate skin, but then someone suggested Seraphine to be added into the game : /

And yea, working on them right now, gonna do Jhin first cause he is kinda the easiest. Annnd also the weakest truth be told
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Hrrrrmmmmm.

Yeah, gun go bang doesn't exactly translate well to stats here.
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Yeea, can be seen by the stats alright cauuse they do leave a lot to desire, done with him and kusho for now.

I would say Jhin can shoot quite a bit higher above his weightclass with prep tho, after all he is just a very smart psycho with a large arsenal of weapons. And also the only adc i can pilot cause yea not much autoattacks...

Edit: Alright, done with all 4 of em, Jhin, Kusho, Zed and Shen, really suprised by how equal Zed and Shen ended up being even with their different abilities, but well it is fitting since they are more or less equal to each other
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Just looked at em and they all look good. Yeah, Jhin lives and dies by prep time. I really wish they would split weaponry up to at least ranged weaponry and melee weaponry. It really screws things like Mechas hard.
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Ah okay thanks once again ofc! And yea uh, i really would enjoy that too, i always had something else i wish was added but not im just being an idiot and its stuck at the tip of my tongue, oh well eventually it will come back up

Eiither way um, yea thanks once again, ima probably call it a day for now since im actually tired now, tommorow gonna focus on that "low elo stomper" Master Yi himself, and probably like Kayn and Karma too since i guess its ionia time.

Oh question btw, do you think Rhaast should be getting a profile of his own? Cause i would really like to cause Rhaast is awesome af, but i dont thiiink there is quite enough lore for him around, not sure tho.
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Makes sense to do the related champs together.

I would say maybe a Kayn possessed by Rhaast would make sense? But Rhaast on his own is probably a bit too nebulous atm.
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Well well, sure has been a while hasnt it. How ya doing? Noticed ya already edited Sej and Poppy (Very very fast alright : / ). Ima slowly start getting back into editing my own part to but yea, has been some time okay.
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I'm doing well enough, how abouts yourself? I usually have profile pics and such prepped so I can get that uploaded when they get approved. Plus the server downtime gave me plenty of time to do that. πŸ˜‚

Oh, I recently started playing the Ruined King game and the 50+ ton lift for Braum I estimated got confirmed. He pulls a fish out of the water in it and based on its dimensions, it could weight in the 40-60 ton range. Yay, random confirmations! πŸ˜…
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Nice to hear that, myself doing really fine just some wifi problems lately but ye irrelevant in grand scheme of things, thanks for asking ofc. And yea uhh, cant really say the same, i am beyond terrible at making plans cause, if i make a plan its almost certain that i will procrastinate it... just pretty terrible at starting things really but when i start them they go down "fast".

Lol, hey glad to hear you enjoy it, do keep telling me about things from there since well for most part i dont really feel like playing or watching it, not reeeally my style of game truth be told. Still always nice to see Braum getting love there, and does fit along with the things he has done in his folk tales thing, mostly the holding a buncha rocks that fell onto him after he punched into a mountain but ye.
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Oh, I understand. That's part of the reason I go ahead and do the prep stuff when I make the requests so I can't put that off.

It's a fine enough JRPG. Wish the party size could be five so it could mimic a regular League comp, but whateves. I have been taking some notes, so here's a few things I noticed:

Braum
Confirms the punching through the mountain story is true without hyperbole after stating his stories get overblown in retellings. His strength is also marvelled at consistently, so that kind of confirms that 50 tons is the absolute max of the human/superhuman people of Runeterra. Saying that, under stress, Braum can go higher, as he's able to match strength with a sea dragon thing long enough for the rest of the team to kill it. He can also talk to and understand Poros, who follow his directions willingly. 😍 Oh, also confirmation Iceborn are 100% immune to the cold.

Illaoi
She is definitely tier 2, as she can push back a harrowing on an island level as well as defeat Hecarim without too much prep and Thresh considers her enough of a challenge that he needs to either get rid of her or gain more allies before attempting his own Harrowing. She does come below strength to Braum, probably by about 25%. Oh and she can "test" people at will, although it leaves her vulnerable.

Yasuo
Haven't used him much, but I notice he generates electricity along his sword when he does his more special moves. I benched him because he's boring.

Miss Fortune
Not much here either, except she's got a keen eye for detail. Like almost a detective.

Ahri
She's only been in one section, but confirmation she can 100% mind control people and alter their perceptions. The latter is proven when she makes a guy think her bag of Noxian coins is a sack of the Bilgewater currency instead when he rejects it initially.

Pyke
Just got him, so only real thing worth noting is that he seems to literally become part of the water he dives into, so he can fit through grates and such as long as there's water going through it.

I'm only about half way through, so there'll probably be more.
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Ye i should go and do that myself tbh, definetely something il try.

I see i see, yea cause its 3 iirc, still glad to hear that, we all want league to do great, having a good game always helps ofc.

Mhm mhm, yea okay thats a really cool confirmation. And yeap, besides people who are gigamped by magic or any other similar sorta thing nobody should be at braums level, even people like Garen and Darius or whonot arent really that close, let alone stronger.

Mhm i see i see, yea pretty good stuff for Illaoi then, especially since she already did have a run in with hecarim once in the past technically speaking

Well she is the brain of bilgewater so, to be expected i suppose

Alright alright nice nice, will definetely remember it for when i edit her (eventually af)

Oh damn, yea had no idea about that, pretty good tho pretty darn good

And yea sure thing, please do keep me informed always happy to hear it
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I'm keeping notes as much as possible, so I'll dump some more once I'm through with the game. Eager to see more stuff for Pyke, but Braum and Illaoi are stacking feats in this game.

Oh, this might change by the end of the game, but Gangplank can control the Black Mist after making a deal with Thresh.
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Alright, ya just have fun okay

Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, feels kinda wack for Thresh to be able to grant that similarly to viego but, i guess sure, maybe then like 2 profiles for gankplank or something? All in due time ofc but, yea
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I am super used to taking notes now for this kind of stuff. πŸ˜‚ SHDB has changed my mind set.

It's a very limited control of the mist. Like he's not targeted by it and control maybe a dozen specters at a time. Def an upgrade but it's not a massive upgrade. And we'll see if he keeps it or it's just a momentary boon. Actually Thresh seems to be above the rest of the Shadow Island denizens now that I think about it... Thought they were all pretty much even.
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Yeea i can imagine, too far have you "Stared into the abyss". Memes aside it is a very useful thing to do tbf.

Hmm i see i see, i thought he'd have more but yea hey even thats a nice upgrade. And yea uhh, before the Ruined king game and sentinels of light things, they all definetely seemed to be roughly on the same level but nowadays Thresh is for sure above the rest of em.

Edit: Also noticed you updated Warwick and Sej, both look really good so gj! Gonna go add the images for those of mine that are still empty, then i will probably try adding the full stats for some but not really sure, if i do it will probably be the ionian champs but ye.
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Just a little... 😳

It's definitely an upgrade and seems to put him above the other tier 1 characters. I'm looking forward to his boss fight. Don't get me wrong, I love Thresh, I used him quite a bit, but I kinda liked it better when they were all relatively equal rival/allies (rivallies? πŸ€”).

I plan on working on our lord and savior today (Urgod, may he be praised πŸ™πŸ») as he's fairly straight forward. I'll do Poppy after that, as she'll require reading. Oooo, Ionia's coming along quite well. With the pace we're going, we might be able to do a big ol Freljord v Ionia battle 😁
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Yea yea, should alright should. And yea i mean kinda, especially with how connected Thresh Kalista and Hecarim are, but, ohh weeeeell, perhaps eventually they all reach the same level again

We can only hope you can do our lord justice, for it is the most important task, best of luck. Ye we have almost everyone, just gotta get them stats and boom. If i had to predict a battle between freljord and ionia, id proooobably bet on Ionia without thinking too much about it...
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I'm honestly surprised Karthus isn't number 2 to Viego. Thresh is a schemer and really shouldn't be trusted.

I think I've got him done, mind taking a peak? He doesn't have a huge amount of lore appearances. I legit want an Urgot spinoff game where you work to take over Zaun as him. Maybe something like Xcom?

I think Freljord v Ionia depends if Ornn and the other demi/gods get involved. Otherwise it's resolve vs skill and the latter usually triumphs. Although, I will say Braum is the only playable character in Ruined King Yasuo has not tried to intimidate. He even begrudgingly listens to Braum's stories because he knows he can't get away. πŸ˜‚
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Also on Poppy... I did not realize how strong she is! She was able to kill a small mountain -like Kaiju is one hit!
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Yeeaaaa, Karthus always had the feel of being the strongest shadow isles fellow, besides Viego ofc but, yea i guess not. And ye he sure is, i mean he did take the instant opportunity to betray viego the moment it appeared

Oh not at all, and after looking, ye he does look perfect so nice nice (although rating is a couple billion points too low at the very least but, the inclusion of the most important alias does make up for it) And oh a fellow Xcom enjoyer? Id fucking absolutely if there was any xcom type game based in league's universe, Urgod destroying those pilties is one definite choice, besides that i definetely could see the Xcom format working very well if it was based on fighting the black mist or the void.

Yea it does depends, however i wooould say that without the demigods Ionia's strongest champions would kinda clap anyone besides Lissandra or so, if both had their 3 strongest restricted tho it would probably be a pretty close fight tho yea. Yasuo knows the stories are coming one way or another, he must accept his fate, just as we must accept his sideburns which i, oh sooooo despise...

It is hard being the hero without even knowing it, but Poppy pulls it off with ease, definetely is among the strongest demacians. Plus, we all love poppy cause she shits on Riven in-lane, as a top main that is an integral part of any champions kit.

Edit: And as a sidenote poppy does also look very good
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A Shadow Isles civil war storyline could be fun. Have Viego go into a rest state or something and then Thresh and Karthus square up to try to take over while he's gone.

Yes, I know. I'm going to put his true stats in the Ustats. Yes, Zaun/Piltover would work very well in the Xcom style because of their reliance on guns. Even if you were playing as Cait/Vi and such, Urgot would be a super cool boss fight. Ooooo and a Bilgewater scenario where you have to fight off Harrowings while trying to make inroads onto the isles would be stupid cool too.

One day, we will put this up for a vote. And I'd like to think Yas finds Braum comforting and lovable, but just doesn't want to admit it. Oh and Illaoi and Braum hooked up.

Yes, Poppy is one of my faves. I don't do top very often, so I like to occasionally take her as a support against enemy comps that don't do well against lane bullies.

Oh, I'm gonna need to update Teemo, because I was doing research on Yordles and apparently they all have enhanced hearing and infrared vision (although weaker normal sight). They're also incredibly long lived and upon death simply return back to Bandle City, which is a seperatesub-dimension from Runeterra (I represented that with low immortality and dimensional travel). And all are naturally magical, obvs. Woohoo, something to keep in mind.

Oh, do you mind if I do Illaoi as well (and maybe Nagakaborous)? Just because I'm getting all her lore dumps due to her kind of being the main character of Ruined King.
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Mhm mhm, that would be very cool, plus finally gives Karthus something to do, i know he is dead and all but his lore is far more so : /

Whew, good, we have not disrespected him too much then. Would honestly love to hear any of those scenarios come out, i guess its "technically" possible too considering the whole riot forge thingy, but well we will only know in due time

Heh, of course. Ye Yasuo could just be acting overly aggressive cause he doesnt want to admit Braum is simply the best in whole of runeterra. And oh, ye okay thats nice too, Riot was kinda hinting at it, F GP i guess but well it is GP the crustiest of all pirates after all

I see i see, i used to play her support before but ye nowadays just, dont really support at all, oh well either way Poppy is great

Ah yea yea, all yordles should get it because well, yea, they are all yordles... Anyways ye uh nice find, kinda forgot about that completely ngl, iirc the immortality part comes from vex lore but, yeea

Nah not at all, feel absolutely free to add either or both, feel free to ask for even more other characters, gonna be some time before i update all the profiles i added
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Poor Karthus...

Yes, I've been impressed by Ruined King so far. It's a pretty good RPG all things considered. I also finally got to do Maokai's boss fight and he's freaking hard. He's getting an upgrade, stats-wise here. He's been limiting the power of the mists for centuries and he has a reach across the entire isles with his power being high enough that the other denizens don't bother him,. I really do want a Zaun/Piltover XCom game. So many cool champs to use. And the lore is too thick to not branch out as much as possible.

I enjoy my supports, especially when they're... unconventional. Maokai, for example, was a really good match with Cait and her traps.

I think that's what the lore doc I was reading said (coming with Vex). Just gotta keep that tucked away in the knowledge vaults.

Alright, I just wanna make sure I tell you before I go outside of the ones we initially agreed to. A promise is a promise.
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Yea i remembered something about him spreading his roots throughout the shadow isles but had no idea if that was old lore or not cause, well lets just say last time i read maokai lore was in season 6 or so, still ye nice update ofc. We can only hope we get that, and as a very big Viktor enjoyer i can already imagine how excited i would be just seeing the "Glorious Evolution" tab in base used to upgrade all of them footsoldiers into metal perfection.

Well dunno how much league you play nowadays but, Maokai support is very very good rn imo, a friend of mine managed to go from silver 1 to diamond 2 in last season almost exclusively playing him. Ofc he did vastly improve as a player over the entire year but yknow, he believed in the maokai dream

Hey, massive massive respect for that alright. Just ask and you can probably do it since frankly speaking i diiiiiiid kinda add most of my favourites at the start, not all but, most for sure.

Edit: Just finished updating Lee and Yi out of the Ionia folk, remembered Yi to be quite a bit stronger but unfortunately forgot the detail that he cant really draw nearly as much power into the human realm as he can in the spirit realm but hey, still really good (Now we just give him Kraken and Guinsoo and who knows what happens)
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Yeah, Mao got a whole info dump from Ahri after his boss fight and he's a much heavier hitted than his in-game stories suggest. Now I just want a squad of Battlecast Kog'Maws doin the charge taunt πŸ˜„.

Ohhh, nice. He was always good if a little niche, happy to see the tree growin into his roots so to speak. I haven't gotten to play in a long time as my (only available) service provider keeps throttling my net connection. Some days youtube is hard to watch. πŸ˜₯

I'll always let you know if I do one from outside of that inital list. I like doing this cooperatively than the solo MtG or Ultraman nightmares, which burns me out hard.

Lee Yi look good to me.

Nonononononono, you go 2 Runaan's, 2 Rapid Fire, Mage Boots and Rylai's. Perfect Yi build.
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New favorite bit of Braum lore... He has started studying door design and is now a door connoisseur.
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Lol, if only if only, speaking of Kog, if you still do have league installed Riot is once again doing the poll on who to rework and Kog is one of the options (along with Trynd, Noc, Shyvana and Skarner)

Ohhh, i see i see, yea fortunately i dont have those problems anymore, but, i do have just, somewhat inconsistent wifi, randomly it will jump to even 20k ping for 10-15 seconds which is fine and all, but it did get quite out of hand one of these recent days when it happened just after i used my first part of ornn ult, lets just say i technically baited my team cause i couldnt R back and yea...

Mhm same really, which is quite different from what i originally thougth when i got to the site and started working on league, i was really really spooked someone else would start adding the series and that we would have raaaather different outlooks on the series, making the stats be absolutely everywhere : /. But hey thats far from what happened, my paranoia was seemingly just a fluke infront of something much better than doing it alone.

Sounds like what my Yi would build in ranked, eventho its impossble to build more than 1 unique item anymore but im sure he would make it, somehow.

Riot needs to make a Braum skin where he looks like a french guy drawing a doodle picture of himself and a giant door holding hands while the eiffel tower can be seen in the background.
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Yeah, my league days are a bit behind, but Kog always felt about right for me when I occasionally adc'd him orwent full ap on bridge. If Trynd hasn't been updated for a few seasons, he's more in need of an update. Old, clunky and annoying on the enemy team.

Oh lord, that do be a big hike up.😲 Last time I tried playing, my average ping was 580 something. πŸ˜–

Yeah, it could've turned out like the Lovecraft characters and them either being based on feats or them just being given all the omnis because they're Lovecraft characters. I much prefer the system we have, looking at actual lore and feats and what not. Like maybe Bard could be higher, but he hasn't shown us that. Oh! I put Pyke up for approval.

Noooooooo! But how will my teammates build BotRK lifesteal Mundo?!? That's a good change though, prevents the troll builds a bit. Both of my examples have been real builds a teammate made too. We lost.

For real! Or maybe like a line of home designer skins!! It's really funny whenever there's an interactable door and he just comments on the craftsmanship. And if you destroy it, he adds a piece to his collection.
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Perhaps eventually alright perhaps eventually but ohhhh well. He has not seen 1 update, prooooblem is, they said themselves they wouldnt change his ult at all, and would keep his gameplay changes very small, mostly just updating his lore and design soooo, yea fuck no i aint voting for him. And yea you have no idea how annoying he is right now since with new lethal tempo he is kinda a "bit" too strong

Ey, i get the spaceshuttle to space treatment, but you are rolling in huge ping the entire time, sooo, mine is for sure less painful overall

Mhm ye ye, he could be higher but, hasnt really done anything to indicate it, plus, he isnt ridiculously low to the point that it wouldnt make sense for a celestial to only be that level, he is in a perfect place where his rating fits his lore and feats. Oh and nice nice, ngl kinda wish i didnt put Ahri for approval back in the days cause well, part of the ruined king crew after all, still very nice alright, you do be zoomin.

Yeeeeeeaaa, i cant see why you lost, perhaps a missplay? Memes aside ive had, my share of, "ingenius builds", like cinderhulk yasuo jungle, or full crit malphite but ohhh well. Lost too ofc : /

Yea yea, perhaps could even fit into the corporate mundo skinline, with Braum ofc being one of Mundo's most succesful employees. Plenty of great braum ideas alright.
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Hrrrm. Yeah, I don't know how you'd fix Tryndamere while still having his core identity remain. He kinda needs that short lived immortality or he's not him, although the rest of his kit is so uninteresting, so Q W and E could be modified pretty easily. Maybe if he couldn't benefit from lifesteal while it was active so it'd need to be a more strategic choice of when to use it? Or make it interact with the new standard abilities so he'd have to build up to it? Like hit an "adrenaline" threshold or something. πŸ€”

I didn't even know I was gonna be playing Ruined King until a little while back. I'll put in some Ustats for Ahri when I get to the end. She did get a buff through a quest wherein she can poison people now.

Def a misplay, those builds were genius! I do admire the... ummmmmm, ingenuity displayed there. Ngl, I love unconventional builds like Tankmo, but that still utilizes his core ability set in a more unconventional way that most don't expect. Not the best thing ever and I wouldn't try it mid, but I had some success with it in ranked because of the sheer amount of shrooms I could get out and the unexpected resilience the jungle didn't expect.

Braum is just the best and fits into so many skin lines effortlessly! If the Poro King ever gets added, he does have feats now. Braum can summon him as his first level ult (Porogeddon) and the King arrives to heal the party of all ailments and grants them protection before leaving.

Edit: Viego has been confirmed as tier 4. Just his beginning to awaken can be felt across all of Runeterra by the magically attuned and his former advisor confirms he can spread the mists across the planet and control them upon awakening.
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I dooont even know, i just know i dont want to see a tryndamere with new abilities since he'd probably only be more annoying than he is now, considering they would keep his ult and whatnot

Aight thanks a lot that is very much appreciated

Ye ye, honestly i dont mind anyone playing any champion, with any build as long as they actually play that and dont first time it in ranked or whatnot, and ofc that they play to win, as long as they fulfill those 2 categories they can play full health Pyke as far as im concerned.

Ohhhhh, poro king is in ruined king, well damn, TFW Poro king is in more games than half the champions...

Yea Viego is actually like, insanely strong, even in his first story (been some time since i read it but iirc) he could cause earthquakes across the entirety of the shadow isles by simply piercing his sword into the ground, really really impressive stuff. By far the strongest of all the shadow isles characters no doubt, and well among strongest on runeterra really.
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He is a shithead champ. Some kind of update that made him less of a pain in the ass would be better.

The way Maokai talks to her and the other entities regard her, she seems to be high tier 1 or low tier 2 imo. We'll see if anything changes.

Yup, as long as they're trying to benefit the team and not memeing it up. Those unconventional builds can be very powerful. One of my buds used to do an attack speed jungle/support Braum. It was actually pretty good on the right team comp.

I am eagerly looking forward to his boss fight. Right now the game is implying he is going to possess and take over Gangplank's body, but that hasn't happened yet (2/3 point). One thing I have been disappointed by is that Karthus has gotten no mentions period. Hecarim got a cut scene, Mord and Kalista have stories you can find within Thresh's castle (he has a giant castle). Thresh also now has a statement saying he's omnipotent. πŸ™„ I am assuming based on the context of the convo that it is referring to his complete mastery over the mists and spirits. I'm thinking he's probably tier 3 then due to that and his stature seeming to be above the other named Shadow Islanders, but we'll see.
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Mhm yea yee, seemingly by what people are commenting its either gonna be Skarner, Trynda or Shyv, imo hopefully Shyvana (since that is my vote too) but we will see

Yea, i more or less agree, we can decide when we read her OG story a bit more since iirc it has changed from before, but before there were rather nice things to support tier 2 like sucking the souls out of a time or something like that, assuming it didnt get retconned ofc but yea

Yea uhh one of my friends was actually a brand jungle main for 2 seasons, and he was really good with it. Hell even i used to play unconvential shit since first time i got diamond in season 7 i played, Sheen rush into Trinity Force garen, nobody expected the chunk on that Q!

Yeeeeea, i listened to an interview regarding the game and they just said they didnt quite have enough resources to include everyone into the game and all that due to covid and game already being delayed, originally they were looking to have couple dozen champions at least metioned in it but hey thats still fine. Mhm yea, i guess that is pretty good stuff for Thresh, could be possible for tier 3 since well, all the things you said but for now he should at least be in upper parts of tier 2

In the entire sentinels of light thing Thresh is at least tier 4 tho (Eventho Viego is probably higher there too but thats for another time) since at the end of it he takes the entire control of the black mist from Viego and is even better at using it than Viego himself since he is well, actually controlling it unlike Viego who was kinda throwing his power around.

Edit: Aight updated Kanye and Karma, kinda shame Kanye never used any of his Rhaast side powers really so putting him at tier 2 would be a bit rough. About Karma tho, i put her as tier 2 for now since imo that should be the minimum but, she is treated as somewhat of a godly entity by Ionians and her power is supposed to be among the greatest on the entire continent so i do think it could be put as tier 3, but didnt wanna do it until i asked you about it, any thoughts?
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Shyv could probably use a rework. She never felt quite right to me.

The way it seems to function in RK is that she eats the person's memories and if their sould isn't strong enough, they die. At least that's how she explained it to Yas in a cutscene.

Ohhhh, had a Brand Jungle friend too. It was super hit or miss, but when it worked... BOOM! Oh yup, Garen can be a nasty chunky lad when he get some crit into him. Yorick was probably my favorite top, but I kept his build pretty standard outside of some counter items.

I have really enjoyed it, don't get me wrong, just feel bad for screamo boy not getting a nod. I also wish if they were going to make you do a party of three and you have six champs, just have 2 teams you can switch between. Cause it gets annoying when you find a spot you need Pyke for and then have to walk allllllll the way back to a rest point to switch someone out. Ugh. Yeah, Thresh is actually being built up quite well for a penultimate boss fight. Maokai won't fight him directly and Nagakabouros apparently hand selected the team to face him because of his potential threat to the continent. But, I'll start on stats once I've finished up the game. He's gonna be tricky... Like Taric.

Oh dang. I'm gonna have to read up on that.

I think Karma as 3 is warrented due to her inherent connection to the Ionian continent. That's at least how I interpreted her stories.
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Mhmmm, i might be a bit biased since i used to main the on-hit bruiser shyv back in the days, but nowadays when she can only really be played as a full ap artillery "thing", not really what id imagine of a dragon

Hmmm, i see i see, aight thanks for the info

Ye i spammed a lot of yorick, but uhh... pre rework yorick : / Love both of the versions but old yorick was such, meme goodness to say the least.

We all feel bad for our favourite Death Musician, we all do... But yeeea that does sound like a really annoying mechanic, thought one could swap out champions more so on the spot but oh well, definetely is something id find annoying. And mhm, definetely is being built up as the, main villain mastermind type of guy alright, but all in due time. And yeea uhh, Taric is one champ i have no idea what id do with, i mean he shooould be at least tier 2 since, technical host of an aspect while before that being a strong demacian soldier but like, haaard to do that much when the guy is mostly a walking collection of gems. (He could be 2 tiers below urgod, great may he be, since Taric is probably the only one fabulous enough to fathom his true power)

Mhm mhm, there is a whole ton of WACK shit in there, to say, the, least

Aight good good, really glad we on the same page about it then and il go right away and change her, still got the edit open after all.

Edit: Just finished updating Irelia too, probably gonna call it a day at those 3, or well at least for now. When i do the next ones il probably finish Ionia with Syndra (not counting Ahri since imma wait for your ustats for her), and after her il probably move onto what we have of Demacia/Noxus
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I think the Subjectively channel on Youtube has been doing a redesign of her on their channel. Might just be visual, though.

She also can use energy she absorbs to heal the party or get the aid of a little spirit to assist with that. I do have what I consider unfinished Ustats for her, as I haven't seen everything she can potentially do yet.

Oh yeah, no, Yorick is great either way imo. I just like throwin the ghouls at people.

Shoulda learned the lesson from DK64... I'm in his fortress at last mention and he be doing some messed up crap to his ghost prisoners. Cutting their memories out and puttin them in other prisoners. Yikes. Taric is weird... His lore entries I've read keep seeming to allude that he's at least tier 3 and idk how I feel about that. Gonna sit on him for a bit while that stews.

Sounds like oodles of fun.

Irelia looks about right where I'd put her. Gonna shuffle this over to your messages for now.
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Lol. I saw a battle with my main and had to vote. Back before I went to full time, I mained Bard and got up to Gold I. Ah, the good ol days πŸ˜‚
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Oh a bard main too? Big respect alright, everyone loves having a bard alright, but yeap thanks for voting either way!
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Keine problem my fried!
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@vonKonigsberg this picture was made for them πŸ˜‚
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I wish they'd use real voice actors. It'd save them money and deliver a better product.
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No. They're not nigh anything. I've talked to Ezio about this and provided sources. I'm sorry about this. Not everything in Lovecraft was or was supposed to be considered godly. Other worldly, sure.

I legitimately want to be able to have a dialogue about this with you, but your idea of what these characters are and what they are in their own stories are so wildly disconnected I feel like you haven't ever even read the associated stories.

What made me choose this path was Bokrug. He's one of the weakest Great Old Ones and you put him in the same weight class as the Outer Gods. They're just not. Lovecraft was vague about where exactly characters lay within their own tier, but he had a very clear hierarchy. GOOs were nothing to the Outer Gods, just like the Servitor races were nothing to the Great Old Ones and so on and so forth.
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I’ll tell you what. I will make a deal you and I will not add nigh omnipresence. However I have edited a couple of things from the Elder Things stats since I too have read many of their sources as well. However, please do promise me that things won’t get out of control between our arguments for Lesser stronghold brings in the Lovecraft verse. Now is it okay for me to leave Bokrug at tier 6 7 or 8.
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Now a lot of Lovecraft characters I have specifically read and assigned to their specific power stats. Now do you want to list characters that you think should be moved to a lower stats or not? If yes list right here, if no, then I will move on and say the power stats are relatively fine for the Lovecraft monsters I edited.
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The Elder Things have no lifting feats anywhere near 8500 tons. They needed a sled to move a furnace. A couple of tons is fine, but 8500 is ludicrous. And 75 durability is frankly absurd. They were cut up with mild difficulty. Sure they can survive high pressure, but you could conceivably kill one with a gun. And what makes them tier 6??

I would love to have an earnest conversation. I have no ill will, but I would like to establish some parameters for the general ranks, as they were. Like tiering. I personally put Outer Gods in 9&10, Great Old Ones/Elder Gods in 7&8 (so Bokrug is tier 7) with the occasional "pseudo" god being in 6. Furthermore I will say I have no problem with any of the Outer Gods ranking. They're fine with all the Nigh-Omnis. But GOOs really only deserve nigh-omniscience. There's clearly limits to their powers and they each have only one "physical" body, although some can create avatars like Hastur.
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The Elder Things was able to fend off against Shoggoth who is around Low Multiversal to Complex Multiversal.
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The Shoggoths are not multiversal. Even if they somehow all fused into one they might be planetary to solar system level. And that was as a civilization, not a single Elder Thing. This is a single entity, not the entire civilization. We'll be getting a feature later to use multiple of a character in a battle, but all profiles are for an individual.
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So therefore The Elder Things are solar systematic.
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I will accept tier 5. That is reasonable, if maybe a high ball.
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Well hello there
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How r u
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Been busy. Haven't had as much time to be on here recently.
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What's going on??
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So, Otachi and Leatherback are fine. Thanks for reminding me of Coyote, though. That profile needs an update desperately. What image did you have in mind for that one?
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Otachi image is good now bit what do you think about this one ?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/a0/36/f1a036d5b51f22484211ecdb5963fc26.jpg

though maybe is a little large
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And for Leatherback this one I think in this

https://cp14.nevsepic.com.ua/231/23029/1396479088-33-7.jpg
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So, the Coyote one is hard to make out exactly what he looks like. Too much back lighting.

Otachi one I am fine with. That's her official poster, so good with me.

Leatherback... That's a fine gallery image, but I'd say it doesn't do a great job showcasing the kaiju itself.
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So...could I change Otachi's one?

and about Coyote Tango I'll search another Image
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You've got my blessing. Just hit up MoNsTeR
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So... the vast majority of Godzilla versions don't stand a chance against either. There's an argument to be had that GZ could syphon off the gamma radiation from Hulk to enhance himself, but that's not certain.

Now, GZ Earth might be able to last for a while due to his virtually impenetrable shield, but he simply lacks the AP to win against either, although he's definitely past planet buster with his breath.

Then there's Hell Godzilla... He might be able to give either a run for their money. He killed angels, demons and an eldritch-like god. Do I think he could win? Probably not, unless he gets the immediate respawn he had in that book when he was fighting Destoroyah and Ghidorah. Even then... I'd still put his chances at maybe 1 in 10.
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Aww, thanks, that means a lot. I'm trying to bring good debates here.

I really do appreciate the enthusiasm you bring to the table. It's a good thing to have. Don't lose it.
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πŸ˜ƒ Thank you vonKonigsbergπŸ˜ƒ I love it when we’re on the same said for a battle like the void Ghidorah vs doomsday hunter prey and I think the battles you create are very good and i have voted most of them.
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Just tryin to make sure we all have fun here and maybe learn a thing or two about a franchise that was previously unexplored. Gotta make sure the big kaiju boys get represented correctly.
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As per Son of Kong... I'm doubtful. It could be fine. I wasn't the biggest fan of GvK, but Son could be fine if we get to explore the Hollow Earth some more. And GZ Jr... Idk. At worst it's another Minilla, but most likely we get the neutral plot contrivance Jr was in the Heisei era. Honestly, I'd like them to spend more time on their original Kaiju. Camazotz and Amhuluk and Tiamat were awesome in the comics and I'd love to see them in motion.
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Nice
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I agree with @VonKonigsberg.
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