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Yes, Thresh needed a living person with a certain amount of will to awaken Viego within the BotRK and GP fit that bill while being desperate enough to go along with Thresh's requests. I know it's my idea, but I do like GP being a tool for Thresh even in death as that would just further the dread of the Reaver King. Honestly, one of my favorite aspects of Thresh as a character is that he is very good at presenting his offers as mostly benign despite his appearance and then only cashing in when he has to. Wonder if he learned that from Tahm? Honestly, I don't see Thresh doing anything too bad to Koggy. Definitely experiment on him for sure, but Thresh is always thinking long term and with how much it would probably cost him to get Kog, I doubt he'd do anything too rash. Worst case he probably cages him in his fortress and studies him or best case gives Kog a job in eliminating the denizens of the isles he has no use for. Amd yeah, the Boxes are definitely temporary no matter what he says. Purely a way to harvest souls and test his defenses to see what does and does not work. Honestly, my theory on Yordles is that they're essentially like DC Imps or the Qs of Star Trek in that they're these beings from outside normal reality and only really pretend to follow the rules of the mortal plane. Not nearly as powerful obvs, but still outside the natural order. And I mean, if Morde couldn't figure out a way to kill Veigar, I doubt Thresh will find it easy either.

Ooooo, that would be such a good meeting point for those two! And they're so different yet so alike and now united in a mission of great (relative) importance. Honestly, I could see this whole story line paying off with ASol getting an ultimate skin to represent him at his true 100% power and it would be a sight to behold for sure! Maybe there's still some kind of clause in the agreement between him and Zoe and Aster (just came up with that name for Nebula boy, please kill it if you don't like it. Wanted to do an A name because he's the counterpart for Zoe and Aster is shortening of asteroid) that prevents ASol from obliterating Runeterra and instead he just makes a new constellation that pisses off the rest of the Celestials instead.

I mean, I do really love the art they put out and would appreciate more of it. I'd love to see champs in action or even happy stuff like Nunu snoozing on Willump or Kat and Garen in disguise on a date. Honestly the splash screens in LoR are great too. Outside of a few niggles (Ezreal, Thresh...) they do an excellent job. Also found out one of the artists also does work on MtG alternate arts, so that's a cool bit of serendipity.

Honestly it's really weird that Senna has so much synergy with Veigar and not Lucian. I will say I think Veigar just shouldn't have been selected as Shadow Isles rep. Hecarim or Kalista probably would've been better as they're not overtly specific on their playstyles while still having gimmicks and the Black Spear is an equip card now, so there's a connection with the expansions theme. And as much as I love Ornn finally being in the game, I ultimately think Sej would've been a better Freljord rep. Her gameplay style is much more broad, making it easier to splash in other champs, and she naturally works well with the equip playstyle imo. Honestly surprised they didn't put Thresh in either, he'd be a natural fit although he did get that adventure...

Will do. I'm gonna try to knock out Sona tonight and maybe Gwen (as she's a LoR only skin), but no promises.
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Future Trunks (DB) Maybe if it was purely a swordfight, but Trunks could always just blow up wherever they're fighting and it's gg
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Yeah, uh, I was not too happy to have such a non-resolution to that part of the story. Like, if anything, Pyke should've killed him because GP was like #2 on his list. Then you could've had a reveal that Thresh still had his soul and then we have a ready made captain for Thresh to use to take over Bilgewater that has both legitimacy and is 100% under his control. I think if Thresh was to try to capture any champ voidling, it would be Kog due to his rather naive nature and being driven by curiosity more than hunger per say. But, yes, I definitely see Thresh letting settlements die to observe the results and only deciding to intervene once he discovers that the souls of the departed don't stick around. But, yeah, def indirect intervention, but I could also see him offering to erect giant Boxes around settlements he finds important. This is definitely a Faustian bargain, though, as pretty much everyone inside is going to become a wraith after a while. Yeah, Vex would have to have Thresh carry through on his end of the deal first, although I wonder how exactly the wraith stuff would interact with Yordles because they can't die in the traditional sense. Maybe they only get corrupted? Which to Vex wouldn't be that bad.

Yeeeeessss! And the pure intimidation factor of Zoe showing up with ASol and calling him her space doggy would be epic. And right when the Crownguards think they're going to die, ASol gets pulled back to Targon and Zoe is just left there absolutely deflated. And, yeah, Zoe's now 100% got something against the other Celestials which does end up playing into ASol's hands in the long run.

Yeah, the new in-game client kinda sucks ngl. I used to be able to leave it running in the background during games, but it's such a net hog I have to have it close when I launch anything. Super inconvenient. I would also love to see Riot like actively post fan art, as it would be good for community engagement and also potentially give us good profile pics...

Nami's fine. She's pretty splashable (lol) into any deck that at least partially uses spells. I will say for Ornn that I've had luck with his synergies by just grouping him with fairly aggressive champs like Vi or Garen... That being said those aren't ideal and you really need Jax or Panth to fully utilize his playstyle. I don't mind the super specific decks, but there needs to be a choice to just double down on the play style with the obvious downside you don't get access to another champ. Because, yeah, some of these champ decks are too hyper focused on their individual gimmick and probably should've only been support champs. Like Senna probably would've been a better choice than Veigar as her evolution only requires killing units with spells and not one specific one.

Once we get the rest of the SG universe characters added, I'll be sure to add in the summary for the recent event and link Morg's profile there. As per other League teams, we really need there to be a specific team they work for. Like, once we get the Odyssey skins in, that crew should get one and I also plan on adding a page for the Sentinels as well. Oh, I'm going to try to get the stats for the last of the SG characters up once I have a chance to watch through their skin spotlights.
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Team Nicol Bolas (Post-Mending) (MtG) Some context for the battle:

This is an alternate timeline for the Third Age where Sauron managed to regain the One Ring after Gollum was captured by the goblins of the Misty Mountains sometime around 2930 TA. His dreams of the conquest of Middle Earth are put on hold when several portals open to the north of Rhûn and Bolas alongside his armies emerge. Bolas has decided to claim the Ring for his own and an alliance between all of the races of Middle Earth is formed to prevent this.

Anyways, thought this would be fun.
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Yes, it would need to be someone new for sure. Maybe a ship that had crashed in the Isles presented an opportunity? So, after GP was beaten by the gang, Nagakabouros's amulet forced Viego's control out of him and he was taken captive. After Viego was defeated, MF was prepping a public execution for GP, but he escaped under mysterious circumstances although MF suspected Illaoi. I imagine Thresh would also seek to extend the conflict between the Ascended to keep them out of his plans although I'm not sure what he'd do about Bel. He'd probably assist somehow, but it would only go so far as to aid his own goals. I think Thresh would also find Vex useful due to her connection to Bandle City and how she might allow him to invade the Yordle realm.

I can also see him offering his services to Zoe in getting rid of these annoyances if only she would assist him in... going for a walk. I mean, if anything was to convince Zoe to actually help set him free it would be to help her get the attention of the boy she has her heart set on.

Yes, just having a tab when you select the game that shows the latest story and clicking on it would take you to the lore page. It'd be nice to know what's going on past just patch notes.

Yeah, um, his deck just doesn't mesh well with most. Maybe Nami due to her giving buffs and adding attune, but that's still only kinda helpful. Lux and Jayce can kind of work too, but they have a focus on 6 cost spells and that just doesn't work. I really wanted to like Veigar, but I think his whole deck needs to be scrapped and reworked.

Well, I know Fiddle will go into the former section because he used to be Harp... Morg on the other hand will have to simply get a character link in the history section because as far as I know she was never a Guardian herself. I do think it'd be neat to add a recurring enemy link for teams though.
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Morgoth (First Age) My point was that Morgoth is more powerful than Aule, who created the sun. Not that he could express his powers in an identical way.
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Morgoth (First Age) @mtrindadc Where did I ever say Eru and Morgoth were the same character? I said this was Morgoth's physical form and even if he had 1% of the power of his true form, which had created discord in the creation of the universe, he would easily defeat this team. We also see a weaker character than Morgoth, Aule, create the sun. So bare minimum we have to assume Morgoth in this form is well above planetary level.
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Team Arceus (Pokemon) While I generally think the Pokemon are overrated on this site, assuming Arceus is at full power, they should take this relatively easily.
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Yeah, Bilgewater would be in a bad situation and I'm sure infighting would start soon. Worst case scenario for Thresh is that they slowly starve to death, providing him a bunch of souls and eliminating one of the biggest threats to him with very little investment.. Best case, it gives him a situation to introduce his own captain to take over. And yes, for all the reasons you said Nid is a good option, especially if the situation in the region is tense due to Xerath and Azir. Plus with her work with refugees would definitely give her a lot of information to pass onto the boss. Lol, I love that! Like, Vex would absolutely annoy the crap out of Thresh, but I can see him finding her super useful. Even if he finds her tiring, I'm sure he'd be able to find a way to use her properly.

Oh my gosh, that'd be super hilarious, especially if ASol is just agreeing with her and legit being a good listener for her while 100% just wanting her to leave because he just does not care in the slightest. Also the Zeebles need to be braiding her hair. But, yeah, as distant as Garen can be, he is ultimately very supportive and loving of his lil sis.

I meant more the Riot client itself and not the LoL one. Because they have the advertisement for the Arcan and a nice description, but nothing since.

Can't block would work very well and encourage that kind of aggressive gameplay plan while giving a very obvious weakness. Honestly, I think it'd be a fun gameplay style with some obvious key weaknesses but still strong.

Yeah, I'm going to have to wait until I build up some shards for him. It's just such a painful gameplay style, especially because he doesn't really have any good defensive units to protect himself with. I really don't know how to fix the base deck either without completely stripping it down. Would def add the minion card that respawns in your hand after it dies because that'd at least give him a reliable unit.

Oh, what do you think of the Star Guardians page? Anything I missed?
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Fusion Zamasu (DB) Not even a fight.
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Nautilus essentially blockading Bilgewater and isolating it would be super cool, especially as it would be kind've mysterious as to what's happening to all the ships. Because Naut is more of an urban legend than anything, so having that reveal would be so cool. Yeah, I don't see Thresh having any immediate interest in Shurima due to the relatively low population density and the Ascended being there and then Targon just beyond. Can see him trying to get someone in Ixtal though. Nidalee could be interesting perhaps, although I would prefer Qiqi because I hate her. I also love the idea of Chained Rammus, though, because Thresh checks in every once in a while and Rammus is doin his Mhm, Okay, Oh Yeah stuff and Thresh 100% understands him somehow. Plus Thresh would probably not try for full world conquest right from the get go. He's just a more patient villain than Viego ever was.

I would love a part where Zoe gets so mad that she goes to space to pout with her Zeebles and could also be a way to remove her from a potential event. But, yes, I love the Crownguard siblings's relationship. It's very wholesome and appreciated. And, yeah, Garen definitely knew and I liked how he handled it. Kind've came off as a coming out of the closet metaphor, but I thought it was well done.

I am honestly really surprised they don't use the launcher to promote their stories and such. Honestly a huge wasted opportunity to connect with the community. And yeah, Necrit videos should be a supplement and not the way we find out about new lore. Definitely a huge failing of the company, especially for people that love the lore.

Yeah, it'd definitely need to be a keyword to save text space. Yeah, neither of those feel right. I'm trying to think of a one word version of like "Single Combat" but nothing is coming to me at the moment. I do like the idea of keeping it to just Samira and her merry band, although maybe there could be an equipment that could grant the keyword too so you could splash in some other stuff that'd make sense like Darius or Atakhan.

Yeah, the deleting isn't too difficult and with how many votes it takes for something to get added it wouldn't be that big of an issue.

Quick rant, but I unlocked Veigar in path and his deck is atrocious. He has a couple of 2 costs and then everything is 3 and above and it just doesn't work. It's so frustrating and I lost to freakin Teemo! Terrible deck.
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Okay, good, we agree on Talon, especially because he'd be in a good position to strike at Swain, for example... For Demacia I definitely think Sylas is the best option. I can definitely see Sona, although one I think could be a good option is Xin Zhao. Now that would be a plot twist. I was thinking for Bilgewater and, hear me out, but I think Nautilus would be the best option. It'd give Thresh's force a heavy hitter and Naut being corrupted and essentially isolating the isles from the rest of Valoran could lead to a pretty cool story beat for a story.

Oh, yes, that'd be great! Seeing Zoe get all flustered and like playing pranks on Garen afterwards would be great. And, um, Lux literally flashing a teenage boy so Garen can hang out with his girlfriend is probably one of the best ideas I've heard in a while.

Even if the stories are just simple one-off adventures would do a lot for world building and wouldn't be as costly as shorts. Even if they were to create art for each story that'd still be better than having to wait for a new champ to release to get a new story update. And yes, a short like that would go a long way to establish how the conflict is shaping up for the future. Even something like Sivir talking about how Azir's forces had been fortifying towns along a certain region or talking about skirmishes would help set the stage for a future event would be much appreciated. I think releasing these kinds of stories once or once every other week would really help tide people over.

Hmmm, now that you mention that maybe if she attacks alone, she gets +1/+1 for each non-attacking equipped ally and their keywords? It'd make for a distinct playstyle to Jax's and create something of a protect the castle style game style. It'd remind me of Exalted from MtG too, which was a really fun game style.

I would honestly take that voter tier that their only special addition is being able to vote on the requests. It'd definitely help quite a bit and mean we don't gotta wait for the Mods or Heralds to vote to get things through.
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Niv-Mizzet (MtG) Niv easily takes any unnamed DnD dragon. Even before getting the power of the Guildpact, he gave Nicol Bolas a decent warm up whereas even a powerhouse like the dragon Karrthus stood no chance.
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Ooooo, yes, I love that attention to detail. I'm trying to think of one champ from each region that'd work with this theme now as Thresh's infiltrators. They obvs can't be a previously ruined champ and would hopefully be a good surprise. Darius is kind of the obvious choice for Noxus, but maybe Talon could work instead? Also give Thresh's team an assassin.

I'm imagining now that Lux finds him hugging his pillow or something late one night and after much prodding finally gets to reveal this brat keeps showing up and ruining his... planned encounters with Kat whereas Lux admits she keeps falling asleep right before she goes to meet her "colleague" and then wakes up someplace random in Demacia City. Yes, it would be a good shift and I can honestly see there forming a new faction around the emergence of such a powerful aspect. Likely just seeing the boy as a normal host and not really as the full personification that he is.

I will say they used to be better at it when each plane got 3 sets worth of cards to tell a story (plus some pretty damn good novels), but even now we still get 5-10 stories with each new set. But, yes, they did alright with Viego, but the few things they have had set up for years have been sitting there for a bit too long imo. Like Kog's daddy or the coming conflict between the three sisters or, y'know, literally anything to do with Shurima. This is something I really do think releasing a short story or two a month could really help build up hype for events and champions.

They could also go improvise, but that'd be super lame. I would say having her as a 5/3 at 4 cost would work quite well and parallel her nicely with Sivir, but that's just me. And yeah, better to come out a little strong than a little weak *cough*Illaoi*cough*...

Yeah, I think the threshold needs to be paired down quite a bit. It's very discouraging as an editor to see my vote make the bar only go up imperceptibly. I'd also think the fact you characters have votes would help, but that's just me.
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Smaug (Tolkien Legendarium) Yes, Smaug is smart. The fact he is eloquent and engages with Bilbo in an actual conversation shows just that. And yes, he was downed by the black arrow that hit his one and only weak spot, but I fail to see how archery skills are going to come into play in this battle. You're also forgetting that by himself, when he was 200 years younger to boot, Smaug conquered the entire Dwarven kingdom of Erebor which is more impressive than anything these GoT dragons have done.

Simply put, Smaug is easily 4x larger than any of these dragons while also being more durable and intelligent.
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Smaug (Tolkien Legendarium) So, Smaug is probably about 4 times larger than any of these dragons while also being an intelligent being whereas the GoT dragons are essentially dog or horse level intellect.
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Witch King Sigh... The only reason she was able to destroy his form was because her had already been stabbed by a barrow-blade specifically enchanted with the power to harm the largely ethereal Nazgul. All she really did was break the final hold he had on a physical form.
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Yes, only long enough to be unsettling but not to the point where it's comedic. But yes, the chains coming out of the heart regions a good idea and maybe they wrap around the extremities and neck too to show just how much control Thresh exerts. Maybe even go far enough to show in their death animations that the chains are used to pull their spirits up like a puppet?

Yes, all of the aspects don't really seem to have much skill in fully exerting control over their hosts, as I think Diana's story talks about how the Moon aspects influence is fairly light and only really exerted in rare circumstances. But, yes, I love the idea of this very specific pair of siblings having their romantic lives absolutely ruined by immortal teenagers from space. But, yeah, Nebula aspect kid is trying to impress Kat by acting all tough and mysterious while trying to aid her on her assassination missions but keeps absolutely botching them. And maybe Kat just finds it humorous how flustered this makes Garen as well.

Honestly, smaller stories like that can really help flesh out the worlds while also hinting at what's to come. Magic used to do this really well with having little details in the books planting the seeds for something that could come years later. Honestly it was really satisfying to see those plot threads come fruition. And it can be small things like maybe in the Corki example, you have him come across an odd looking rock while looking for the fork and him noting it doesn't look like it looks like a space rock that almost hit him once, teasing the arrival of the Nebula Aspect and establishing a history between them and another already existing champ.

I do like that quite a bit. Good way to represent her having all that equipment without having to give her a lengthy thing that says she can equip 2 equipments and then you don't have to worry about the other weird interactions that would cause. I'd say to keep it from being too toxic that she only keeps the stats of the last equipment she had, which would still be pretty damn strong. Maybe instead of giving her a true keyword she could have attune, which would help her equip something when she comes into play.

I'm kind've disappointed your's didn't get voted through. I know I'm an editor and everything, but I shouldn't get preferential treatment when it comes to requests. And I've never had a problem with any of your stats, so that shouldn't be a consideration.
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Jaya Ballard (Post-Mending) (MtG) Jaya would not have been killed if she wasn't exhausted from the battle. In a straight fight she could incinerate him before he'd have the chance to close into melee range.
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That is listed under the aliases
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I think Sejuani would definitely want to keep it a secret the most due to that kind of revelation hurting her control of her clans. And the idea of Thresh essentially having sleeper agents in the form of his "Chained" champions is super cool from a lore and potential story arena. Plus Thresh has always worked best as a puppet master villain and that could lead to a whole bunch of really cool reveals. I'm imagining the spectral/chained Ashe getting maybe like extra joints in her arm or something so she can pull her bow back farther or something like that.

It would certainly add a new element to Zoe's character while also providing a lot of new places for the Targonian lore to go, especially if we were some day to see ASol freed in an event. I do also like the fact that these two Aspects that have actually left the realm and experienced more are the ones that can truly connect on a fundamental level with their hosts whereas the others more or less just use them as puppets. And yes, I like this idea for a true Targonian villain being the counterpart to the one all of them hate because of how annoying she is. I think it would be funny for him to develop a crush on Kat or something so that he's trying to further sabotage Garen's relationship with her.

I really do think it would be good for the health of the lore if they did release these kind of "filler" stories that help expand the individual narratives of characters. Like, getting to see Corki going on this insane mission to recover his prized fork or getting to see Ez raid a tomb or heck getting an adventure of Pyke taking down an evil captain would all be a lot of fun without too much of a monetary investment.

I'm just imagining him being all "What the fuck is this shit?" when you use his power to grab something like the spell that just makes you toss 4. It'd be pretty funny, but obvs he can't curse like that. Yes, I'd imagine the Shuriman equipment either gives little to no stat boost and a good effect or gives good stats with some kind of negative, like the one that makes your unit unable to block. So, very much more niche but powerful in the right situations. And, yeah, Noxian equipment is no nonsense stuff focused on beat down for a very straight forward victory condition. Like the Great Hammers equipment.

Oh, the Guardians I requested were added. I'll get to them once I finish up the MtG characters I'm working on.
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not voted He's permamuted, so I wouldn't expect a response.
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Morgoth (First Age) Morgoth is most certainly capable of destroying a planet. Why doesn't he? Because he wants to take it for his own. The fact he's second only to Eru (and I know this is his physical manifestation) and was able to create discord in the creation of the universe should tell you something. So even if this form has 1% the power of his true form, he's still above all of these characters with only Wanda being able to put up a fight imo.
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Neutral 'Barbarian' warlord battle
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I mean, I guess they kinda played around with the idea of the first teams being dead, but there was no way that was really gonna happen. I think Ashe "falling" during the Void event would be a good way to raise the stakes in the region and maybe we could even learn some more about her bow and who it really originally belonged to. Honestly like the whole idea that Ashe is actually the reincarnation of Serylda because I'm pretty sure that's who originally owned her bow. Yes, if I've learned anything from Ruined King is that Thresh is very good at controlling his minions, even when they think they're rebelling against him. Plus Thresh being this semi-neutral antagonistic force that's always the "lesser" of two evils is super compelling imo. I'd also imagine his version of ruined champs would have a different aesthetic.

I think it'd be cool to pick where they landed, but for ease of access maybe you just have a defined area where they fall with them falling semi-randomly within that area. But I do like the idea of it being these three projectiles one after the other and honestly, the fact it generates a temporary object would be enough unique selling point for me. Could do some really clutch things like interrupting a Naut Q or something. And yes, you have nailed everything I was positing right on the head. I just like antagonists that aren't strictly speaking evil. Like, they are right, but it's their methods that are the problem. Plus it'd be cool if we got a semi-diminutive male character to complement Zoe that's mischievous but still very driven towards their goals, but not single-minded.

Even with what we're proposing I still think SA would be on the weak in. Rhaast just has too many benefits, especially the fact he can heal your nexus, which in a long game is super impactful imo. And on Path. They also added those dragon bracers, so I super need to try those out.

I would say the fact Hec really only has a great relationship with Pony is kind've sad in a way and could also drive his pathos for wanting to be the best. Also you could work in some Mr Ed references and we're golden! Honestly, I wouldn't mind writing for their story department, especially if they'd let me do the side stories I'd like to see.

Oh, yes, that'd work just fine. Reducing the cost would be good, but maybe have the caveat it can't reduce the cost past 1? Just so it's more about Sylas wanting to steal big spells and not the little ones, which fits him better flavor wise imo. I think if they do Samira, they could make her a Noxus/Shurima champ so that both get some equipment love.
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Neutral She kept up with Captain Marvel just fine in MoM. You can argue who's faster, but she has enough reaction time to at the very least take out some of them.
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Neutral How does Faora punching a couple of soldiers prove anything? Wanda could always just turn them into spaghetti or make their suits kryptonite.
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King Ghidorah (MonsterVerse) Ghidorah easily. Dragonstorm is puny compared to him and Ghidorah's dealt with heat-based attacks with easy in the past. He can also just bite him and suck all the energy out of him.
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They're certainly a handful...

Oh, yeah, that'd be cool. It'd probably just be loading in a different texture or something, so nothing too crazy complicated. Yeah, when you have a threat as large as SG Zoe is, you really have to have some kind of permanent loss and I really like how you can see that Xayah is suffering because of that loss. Sylas would be one that would be okay to die, maybe having it be a little cloudy just in case but still he be dead. Just off the top of my head, but maybe he makes an alliance with Thresh and ends up getting reaped when he's no longer useful. Then his body gets buried and so there's still a chance he could be restored, but it would have a clear build up. I also think Ashe or Sej could "die" only to return in a later update to the story. That's also another way to justify a kit update...

Maybe we could mix in some asteroid belt elements as maybe a physical representation of their power? Like they could bring down a meteor shower as like a q or something and the bits stay behind to block movement for a time? And yes, the Ruination would be a good jumping off point and also if the Darkin try to invade the Celestial Realm again. Maybe they are initially hailed as a hero when they arrive, but soon the Targonites figure out the new champ thinks its time for a reboot of the physical realm and is pondering an alliance with ASol when they're done with the baddies. I do definitely like the Nebula part, though and that needs to be played with. There's a moveset there at the very least.

1/1 without the bonus might be a little weak... Maybe the token gets the same total attack boost that Kayn has, but is still a whatever/1 so it still hits hard but can be chump blocked or picked off by a weak spell in a pinch. I do need to redo my Panthraka deck with some equipment, as those trigger the fated bonus when equipped.

There could also be a taunt following up on that if he runs into a classic Hec and is just all like... That's taking things a bit too far, wouldn't you agree Pony?

That all would work well. Maybe we could lean into the reducing power aspect due to his semi-connections to the Freljord? Or it could always be that he can counter enemy spells and then get an ephemeral version of the spell in his hand? That'd likely be his signature spell, but still. Well, we did get Illaoi, but she's as Bilgewater as Ziggs is Shuriman...
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Yeah, suddenly being put in charge of 40+ children has a certain derailing effect on one's plans.

Honestly if they ever made those as skins, it'd be cool to see on death/recall that the artificial bodies start to fall apart and disintegrate followed by the rebirth animation showing a new body grabbing the Darkin weapon. I do think having champion deaths is fine, even if they aren't permanent. They did that with GP for a while and no one was too bothered by that. And even if someone is dead in the main timeline, it's not like they're dead across the multiverse. I actually thought Rakan's death in Star Guardians was quite poignant and effective, for example. Just don't kill Lux... or Teemo... or Braum... or Ez...

Yeah, Zoe came out in... 2017!?! And the last Targon related champ was Aphelios in 2019... We def need a new aspect and something really cool. I'd suggest Tyvari as the Traveller, but that's not super creative. Looking at their roster, we've got 2 tanks, 2 mages, a fighter, an assassin and a support. My mind went to some kind of storm-based champion with a cosmic twist, but I can't really think of an amazing way to differentiate that from Janna...

I've been having fun with him in Path, so I just need to get all the cards together to pull it off. I do have to admit I almost never use Shadow Assassin as Rhaast is just way better. Feel like maybe SA needs to have some kind of other effect other than the +2/+0 it currently gives. Maybe like a bit of damage to the enemy nexus when he kills something? Like 1 or 2 points, nothing crazy. I think Panth is my favorite in normal play. Just a very intuitive deck imo.

Yes and he absolutely hates that he doesn't naturally have the super gruff voice. I'd also like some voice lines talking about how close he and his horse are and they might as well be one being... or something along those lines.

I think the most logical addition for Demacia would be Sylas, but failing that, yes, Sona's a good option. I do like the idea of Sylas having chain equipment he puts on enemy units to gain access to their keywords while preventing them from keeping them from equipping new items. Might be a better way of showing his abilities because we both know how toxic silence can be. Samira is also a good choice for Noxus, although I think Talon could work as well. I'd also like to throw Corki out as an option for a Bandle City/Piltover card as he could play into both the mecha-yordles and the equipment playstlye. Maybe he even has a mechanic that benefits him changing equipment to represent him changing the payload on his ROFL-copter to match the mission he's going for. I think Graves is another that needs to be added in as TF is very lonely without his ever "reliable" partner.
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Neutral Fiora is undoubtedly the better swordsman, but Danitha has better armor and strength. Fiora has it in a short fight, but the longer the battle goes on the more of an edge Danitha has. Too close to call for me.
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Oh yes, the one that lives in my room is super adorbs. Also apologize for the late reply, I had an insanely busy day.

Yeah, it'd make sense for there to be some kind of researcher Darkin at the very least, especially with them going into the Void to fight. I would expect these artificial bodies wouldn't be nearly as good as someone like Tryn or Kayn but still better than the unworthy hosts. I do agree his defeat during Runiation was a good point to end things for him, but everything operates off of comic logic now and no one can ever die permanently.

Ooooo, I like that idea for the ult! Honestly, fire Morg would just be super neat. Moon Kayle could reference the swords that were made out of meteorites and make her fire silver. I have a feeling they'll eventually introduce more Celestials as it has been a minute since the last time they added any.

Yeah, I am not starring Ornn up past 2 cause that's just not worth the wild essence. Maybe if it made it to where every time you forged you did it twice, but they decided to make it suck. That combo does sound pretty good. I'm thinking about trying to make a Kayn Drakin deck purely for flavor reasons.

Yeah, it's not a super big issue sailing to the Isles, although you do have to fight one of those massive sea serpents.

I think it would be a fitting legendary for him. I think it would be funny for his voice to have that he's doing a grumbly voice but when he's porting back he finally drops it and has a very suave voice or something like that.

So I guess one of the new champs in the next patch will have to be a Darkin, so unless they introduce the daggers we've got Varus or Aatrox with whoever's left behind coming in December. I think it'd be best for Varus to come first, but I'm fine with it either way. Excited to see what they do with the Arclight event too as well as who gets Corrupted in part 2! I do hope the LoR exclusive champs include Necrit. He'd be a pretty cool Shadow Isles champ to go alongside Mao.
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And thus we have returned to the land of the... poros?

Anyways, yes, there are enough simple explanations as to why Tryndamere survives the process and could eventually lead to them separating once again, maybe even after another event that maybe sees the Darkin get bodies constructed specifically to host them that can be easily disabled if necessary. But, yes, I think there should have been at least some side character deaths during the event. I'd think the best candidate for that would be Rafen, honestly. At least that would help explain MF's heel turn. I will say I like that they kept Viego around as a possible future threat because of what we discussed about the possibility of him being a wild card in a future event. But, yeah, Thresh got his power, so he would work well enough as an end boss for the Shadow Isles and the Mists.

Honestly, I think Kayle and Morgana for the Sun and Moon would be great, but what if we did a bit of a role reversal? Make Morgana the sun aspect and Kayle the moon. I'm just imaging Morg's W being a portal to the surface of the sun and her ult being these chains made of burning plasma. Could be pretty cool. And Nami could work as the Traveler quite nicely. And I do wish they'd have more paired Aspects now that I think about it. Like, I guess the Protector and Warrior are a pair, but what about the Immortal Fire? Like, it'd make sense for there to be a Celestial of the cold or something.

Yeah, no, that'd be a super bad 3 star. All the other's are pretty powerful, so his would need to do something else... Maybe have Forge give +2/+2? Or give his units impact once they reach a certain point? I do need to try him in regular play, but I do wish his Path deck had a better mana curve. Edit: Just got his 2 star, so I can see his 3 star and it's... terrible. All that's added is that the first time you forge, you forge again.

Yes, I don't mind the region reasoning, but I do wish we didn't have to put so many of the pieces together...

Oh, yes, I see that now. For some reason they made them out to be closer in Ruined King... But, yes, proportions are completely wonky, even taking into account the thousand years between. So, yeah, I'll account for it being due to cartography issues...

Honestly, it shouldn't be too hard to make the Hecarim skin work, although I have a feeling they'd have to make it a legendary skin so the model could be changed. Ooooo, that's some nice info right there. Imma update Thresh's profiles as soon as I can!
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Either of those scenarios work as well. And I think it's just a natural progression of both character's stories. And it's not like it would be the end for Tryndamere, as I'm sure they could devise a way to free him if necessary. I think it'd be a good way to raise the stakes as well and maybe we could get an Ashe + Braum vs Aatrox/Tryndamere fight. And yes, I think it's fine for champs to have end points for their stories. It's not like if they were to die in the event you wouldn't be able to play them anymore.

Oh, yes, I do like the idea of Kayn being the host of the Warrior. IT'd be sad to not have Rhaast, but I feel like it would still be a very similar dynamic. Oh, I do like Fizz for Twilight or Lulu could work well in that role. I think Braum for Protector would make sense. I also think Nami could make a really good aspect of the Moon due to her lore.

Oh shoot! It's honestly one of the best common relics imo. Yes, unfortunately slow decks just aren't as good as the quicker decks in Path. I've found some success with Ornn by taking the power that gives you an extra mana gem, but it's not like that's always guaranteed. I have a feeling the time and dedication will become 0 cost at 3 stars, but yeah, that should've been that way from the start. It's too hard to use it reliably when it costs 1. Plus his mana curve is way too back loaded. Yeah, I was def thinking 0/1 or even 0/0 because that effect is so powerful. But, yeah weak stats with a powerful but niche effect for 5 would be worth it as a one off if anything, especially in a protect the castle deck.

Yes, I think that downside woould be good to make sure she's not a spammy champ while still allowing her to harrass in lane. I would say maybe keep the cooldown only associated with her AAs so that we don't get someone max APing her and getting infi re charges or something like that. I mean, I think the health stealing could be very strong but still very situational. And I'll never say no to a more varied repetoire of counters in bot lane.

I think the idea for Taarosh is that he was originally entombed there when it was the Blessed Isles and he got revived after the change? Kinda weak reasoning, but yeah, I think they're just trying to have a Darkin in each region.

Hmmm, yeah, the proportions look off to me, especially Valoran. It's just so tiny and the Serpent Isles look really far away. I think the Blessed Isles are just part of the chain for the Serpent Isles, but they still should be labelled. The Buhru are, after all. Oooo, I always want more info that pertains to world building. Hopefully now that we're getting the King Viego skin we'll get the human forms of the other Isles champs. Even Hecarim. And make it cursed AF.
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Honestly, the only reason I think they could make Sion work is because of his soul furnace. Other than that, he's not workable, although it would be a cool image to say the least. Maybe to get Tryndamere to a point where he is forced to take up the blade, the Freljord could be pulled into the fighting with the Winter's Claw being some what unwilling allies of Noxus (maybe there was a LB false flag) and the Avarosan capital is besieged and the walls eventually breached. Thus Tryndamere has no other option than to accept Aatrox to help save his people. Obviously that would need a good deal of set up, but it could be a cool enough moment and maybe see the Nightmare Tryndamere skin updated and made canon. Other than that, yeah, I still think Farron's a good temporary host at least and I wouldn't put it as outside the realm of possibility for Swain to want to exploit the Darkin as weapons.

Yeah, they're not true Celestials. I would honestly argue The Warrior is antagonistic but not evil. He just wants to fight and Viego gave him that opportunity. More of a force of sentient nature than anything. God, now I just imagined a skin line of what if skins for other champs becoming the hosts for the aspects like Darius becoming the Aspect of War. Or Tryndamere could work too.

Yeah, uh, I wish it didn't summon the Forge too, as that hogs one of your deployment zones. If the power was just adding the card in hand each turn it would be okay, if slow. Yeah, him being a 7 cost 4/4 is rough, but I've found equipping him with the regen item from the start helps him out immensely. Those two are good. I'd also like Nashor's as maybe a rare improvise option and then Infinity Edge and maybe Zhonya's as well. The latter could be a fun "if the unit I'm equipped to would die, return me to the hand instead and set the follower's health to their previous value." Make it like a 5 cost too so you can't really exploit it. I definitely want the chalicar too, as we really need that story pushed forward.

Yes, I would say either do the Q as a normal-ish skill shot with the effects you suggested and maybe give it 2 charges so she can throw two in quick succession before going on a long cooldown. I do like the idea of the heal stealing, but I do wonder how effective it would be. As long as it's an additional effect kind of thing, it doesn't hurt in any way. And it does really fit the champion concept quite well.

I feel like that's just the answer that makes the most sense. And now that you mention the Cloud Drinker, the body shape does match. Are there people that ride those perhaps? And then the domesticated ones are thus smaller? But then why would they be in the Shadow Isles... hmmmm. But, yeah, them having some kind of telepathic link makes some degree of sense, especially as they should all be comrades from that war. I will say I'm kind of happy they ripped the bandage off like this instead of doing it in dips and drabs. I do imagine we'll eventually get a "lesser" Darkin for each region. The Balista also mentions them going to Icathia... perhaps that'll be how the Void event kicks off?
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Nicol Bolas (Post-Mending) (MtG) Bolas is capable of collapsing entire planes with raw power alone and has taken a large part of the city plane of Ravnica collapsing directly onto him with no damage. He also personally defeated the combined might of the 8 gods of Amonkhet and then rewrote them into becoming his personal servants. Sauron just can't match that kind of raw power, not to mention Bolas could always just grab Sauron and drag him into the Blind Eternities, erasing his mortal shell from existence.
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That would work well enough to set off that chain of events. Maybe throw in a a hive of voidlings for an action scene and we've got a fun issue. I honestly struggle to think of any known characters that would work for Aatrox better than Tryndamere and the only Noxian non-champ that strikes me as a potential host would be maybe Captain Farron? He's got the same berserker style as Tryn. Or they could always go nuts and have Sion seize the Darkin Blade... Plz no. Honestly, having the finale of the war be a battle between the Darkin and the Aspects would be pretty epic. Would be a cool way to have a temporary truce between the Solari and Lunari.

Yeah, I guess Kayle would be the closest thing. Could maybe argue that Zoe is antagonistic, but she's chaotic neutral at worst. I guess ASol is antagonistic too, but that doesn't count. The closest thing I can even argue for an evil celestial would be The Great Beyond because it might want to help free ASol. There's also the Scourge, but that's just Baron... IN SPACE.

I do really like Ornn, he just starts a little slow. I also did one of the missions and got Jax unlocked and I do indeed like him. He pairs really well with Ornn. I've played Yi and if I'm being honest, he just doesn't feel good to me. I feel like I'm playing a wizard deck and not a swordsman's deck. I too have no intention of touching Norra. Wasted champ slot imo. But, yes, equipment is pretty good and I hope they do more with it, maybe try to do some more outside the box thinking. I hope we get some of the items from League as equips too like BotRK.

Again, we're hitting up the nuance argument. I also think Deconstruction should stay, but the molecular stuff will do.

Oh yeah, I am not gonna complain. I just always hope they're gonna drop some tips for how to get secret play throughs going like they did with the HRE for Germany.

I definitely like the idea of an aggressive (yet hopefully frail) support that heals in the way you said. Maybe they could have her able to build up a gauge that when she uses an ability it drains one full bar to empower it. I can also see one of her abilities being an ankle slash to do a sweeping slow as well.

So, this is my theory (and it's probably wrong) but maybe the follower Darkin we' got are lesser Darkin like how there were Ascended like Nasus and Renekton, but also "common" ascended. That's the only way I can think to really justify it. From reading their flavor texts, it looks like Horazi/Lodestone seduced a Targonian while Naganeka appears to have attached to some kind of animal. Taarosh on the other hand... I really have no idea what his host is supposed to be. I was pretty thorough on Ruined King, but there's nothing that really fits with his body type outside of maybe one of the Spectral Riders... but that doesn't make sense either. I would guess too that maybe the Darkin have some kind of telepathy and Aatrox merely helped them awaken with his calls. This is where I really wish we would get some short stories to explain these kind of drastic changes. But, yeah, that'd leave only the Daggers for Varus to wake up.
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Awesome idea!
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Done
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I also want to see Galio trying to apply stealth and tracking skills her learned from Quinn. Oh, yes, they would be best buds for sure. I think they have some lines in LoR, but it wouldn't be that hard to make them meet, as Malphite roams the continent looking for void infections. I do think Morde would make the most sense, but Aatrox and the other Darkin could work as well. Maybe they're trying to get enough blood shed so they can reattain their presealing levels of power? Or something along those lines.

Oh, yeah, definitely prefer the first one, but I think the transformed artwork is also strikes me as Taric's not in control of his body anymore, but he's still aware and thus the blood tears. I really do like the concept as you said too, although I do think it needs some more work. I would still 1000% like to see explicitly evil aspect champs though and this is close to what I'd like. Honestly, I just hope they move the LoR exclusive Worldbreaker skins over first.

So you're liking Kayn well enough then? I got him unlocked but haven't gotten the chance to try him out yet. I hadn't gone to fight Thresh yet, so I'll give you my thoughts when I unleash Annie on him.

I think you made some good points on Afterimage Creation, although I can see people arguing to just simply use illusions... That being said, I think too many things are getting lumped into that one power.

New Dev Diary. Nothin too crazy, just some info on some new types of achievements and modding.

Sooooo, apparently Jun:

is the wielder of the Darkin Bloodletters:

And if she gives into them (against Yi's wishes), she becomes Xolaani:

Which is all very cool, especially as Xolaani was apparently a healer before becoming a Darkin, so she might end up becoming the Darkin supp?
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Yeah, no Quinn and any others are purely one off characters that they meet for one issue just so that we can see those characters in action. It would be funny to see Galio trying to learn how to fence, though. Yeah, leave their relationship status kind of vague, but like they're exchanging letters at the very least. And like super wholesome letters too, because we can use a little wholesomeness in our super serious series. Bi monthly minievents definitely work and by doing them at that frequency and by utilizing player input, it can direct the course of the conflict and lead to that final large event that can finally unveil a true big bad, which could be Mordekaiser having needed this to truly return or someone else. It could be really cool and really get the entire player base involved.

Honestly I really like Taric's art as well as he seems to be the only one that realizes what's going on. I am super happy over all with the skin line, especially as it's original. Maybe it's hinting at things to come? There was a dev post I saw that they were talking about LoR skins coming to LoL...

Yes! The weekly adventures are such a good addition. It's gonna make grinding out the new characters much more satisfying imo. So, I unlocked Ornn with my wild essence and I do like his deck well enough. He seems to work quite well with Shyvanna imo. I'm gonna be working for Veigar next, as I love his voice lines.

I saved animation, so I'm fairly happy with that turn of events. If you have opinions on ones you think should stay, weigh in! Worse case scenario he says no and that's the end of it.
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Probably just need to change the description to "The power to animate inanimate targets. The user can give life to inanimate objects/matter/energy/concepts, animating them to act/move on their own accord." Or something like that.
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Why is animation being removed? There are plenty of characters that can bring inanimate objects to life.
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I think we should divide elemental powers into Control/Manipulation and Generation powers. Fire Force is a series that demonstrates this deistinction well, as the Second Generation Pyrokinetics can manipulate flames but are unable to generate their own while the Third Generation Pyrokinetics are the exact opposite. It would also help distinguish between characters like Mera who can shape and control water or a character like Squirtle or Shellmon that can generate and launch water attacks with no actual control over the element itself. It may sound pedantic, but I think it's a valid distinction to make.
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It would be so precious while also being a good way to explore Demacia. Alongside Garen, I think it would be good to meet other Demacian characters like Quinn and Fiora out on the job. Especially Quinn, because I've always liked her joke that insinuates she has a huge crush on JIV. Yes, I like that kind of interaction with Lux and Ez, especially with Galio just over shadowing everything he tries to do to impress her. Could also reference his interactions with her in the Path of Champions and maybe get in an interaction where Galio is like, I think that funny little man likes you with Lux blushing. I really like their dynamic both as characters and in gameplay terms for both LoL and LoR. Honestly, if they wanted to use the conflict to have focused content on smaller regions while the war goes on, I'd be all for it. And yeah, I think more than a year would be good, but I always worry about people getting too fatigued. Maybe breaking it up into 2 month mini-events focused on battles and sieges would help as then the cast that's involved would keep changing while also consistently increasing the scope at a reasonable pace.

And that's exactly what makes the two such a good pair. Braum comes to Ornn with problems and Ornn makes a solution, but Braum just uses it in a completely baffling, yet effective way. And afterwards Ornn is just flabbergasted, but secretly curious to see what else Braum will pull off. Also, gotta have him get some Forge Poros that assist him. Huh, intersting. The Leona one strongly reminds me of the Soul Edge possessed characters from Soul Caliber. The only one I don't really like is Diana and that's mainly because the pose is super lame. I will be interested to see what the lore for this line is. Maybe the void focused on the celestial realm first and is now spreading their corruption through the aspect process? (I found a link to the rest, but thanks for the offer!) Edit: Added to the Path of Champions are Ashe, Diana, Jax, Kayn, Leona, Yi, Ornn and Veigar.

I was hoping to do my pitch for the separation of control and creation now, but time won't allow it. I do hope Galactus decides to do the Elemental thing because there are a fair number of Magic characters that are Elementals and I just don't have a way to represent it.
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I mean, Sylas is the patsy that keeps on giving and seeing as he's essentially a terrorist at this point I doubt anyone would think he wasn't behind the beloved prince's disappearance from the public eye. Honestly, if Galio was able to move freely, I would love to see some comics of him and Lux (probably Ezreal and Garen too) travelling around Demacia so he can learn about the nation he protects. Also might be a way for him to get a canon meeting with Veigar. Yes, exactly what I was thinking. And despite everything Piltover likes to say about being the city of tomorrow, they are a very conservative political entity. Plus having such a large and powerful militant nation on their side would be good both for testing prototypes as well as having a conventional force to call on if they're under threat. Definitely would end up being a mutually beneficial arrangement while also pushing Zaun and Noxus together. Could lead to an interesting Valoran wide conflict after some Zaun tech is found with the Mage rebels or Rell has gotten her hands on some Piltover tech. That kind of event, while still massive, would be a nice change of pace from the world ending ones we've seen so far. Would also give a way to shake up the political order in Noxus or Demacia based on who's fairing the worst. I think it'd need to be a year long event, though.

I love that scenario! It'd be so precious and it could lead to Ornn also discovering that Braum's shield is Ornn's door. And Ornn's just like "But that's not what that's for?" Honestly, those two would be great companions and if the Demigods were ever to choose a representative/champion, Braum would have to be Ornn's. Welp, that card definitely looks like the swords that fall for Kayle's ult. I could see her being Targon/Demacia, but the latter is more important to her than the former. I would rather that be a random card than anything.

That works fine for me, shows she's competent but combat's not her focus. Yes, always fill me in on all the spicy tidbits you can. I did the same for you for Ruined King and honestly it really helps get characters feeling right.

I have made a pitch to save tentacles, but it's okay if we lose it as long as limbs stays. I'll pitch the idea of a seperation of control and generation, but I can perfectly well work with them being one power. And as long as they have good descriptions and/or names, I don't think it's unreasonable. I've made the case of reducing the "The ____" DC stuff to just "Elemental" to make that more general. I don't see a point in having those be distinct as you can just select Elemental and then add in the specific ability (like plant control for the green) and thus we've cut down the list considerably.
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I would say multiple limbs is definitely more general, but tentacles is more niche seeing as tentacles are usually boneless and are equipped with suckers and the like. I can see the two being merged into one (limbs), but I do think there's a case for them being distinct as there are characters that are able to grow and manifest tentacles (like Illaoi from League of Legends). If we do lose tentacles as a distinct category, I would like something to replace it for characters that have the manifestation aspect of the ability.

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