Top 10 Smartest Characters, Marvel and DC, Comics and Movies.

Nice list man.

Bruce Banner (Hulk)?

I didn't do that because Hulk is another personality.

Okay I guess so except usually that's how it would be done.

Probably overall Richards.

Fair, although Doom is almost his equal

Doom admitted Reed is smarter than him.

True, but a lot of evidence points to doom being smarter, although overall I think doom is only an interesting character as long as Richards is smarter

Dr Doom is the only one who can claim to be the master of magic and science. Reed is an expert in science and even then if probable Doom's own ego is what's held him back from being better than Reed

That's fair, plus in both Secret Wars (modern and classic) Doom showed insane feats, beyond richards

Ego can't be too big if he admitted Reed was smarter.

Doom still has a huge ego, no question

Nice list, though I say put Hank Pym at 8 and BP at 9.

Hank Pym was once declared earths scientist supreme, and T'Challa is tony stark if he grew up in the advanced world of wakanda, he just simply knows more.

Kinda like how we agreed that Taskmaster won is the fighting skills department even though KK might know more in regards to fighting, BP shouldn't be above Thanos, Banner, and Stark. Its the list of smartest, not most educated.

True, except T'Challa was just raised in an environment that cared more about education, and his knowledge advantage starts from a young age, so he just is smarter than tony. If you put the both of them in a room and asked them to race to figure something out, T'Challa's brain has been more fine-tuned for tasks revolving around intelligence.

Well more people (including the writers) would put those three before him.

wdym including the writers?

Usually its canon that BP is inferior in regards to intelligence.

When is that stated?

Its generally accepted, but who am I to go with the crowd? Regardless that's what I believe, and what most people believe.

Fair, we'll agree to disagree on this one

Your Marvel list might be the closest to my opinion.

Thanks, most people didn't include thanos whereas thanos actually said to Bruce that bruce is really intelligent among humans but titans are on another level, but still he lacks feats to put him above doom and richards, banner is smarter than stark, he once hacked stark's system and stark couldn't do anything, then gave the antivirus for it, leaving the room saying "I am the smartest one there is." Banner could have been higher on the list but honestly he doesn't get much time to display his intelligence, as he is mostly in his hulk form.

Yeah I excluded Thanos too because he's almost cosmic level intelligence.

But is he smarter than Doom or Richards?

@Taurus Who? Thanos? Most likely, but he lacks feats. Banner? He outsmarted doom before and doom also applauded is intelligence, but at the same time he doesn't get much time time to display his intelligence. And @Tyrannus, yes I at first was including Doctor Octavius at 10th instead of Thanos, but then thought I should add someone who does not belong to earth. Only thanos came to my mind.

I meant Thanos. Superhero comics (and movies) are funny that way. One person may be a proclaimed genius or what not but be bested by someone allegedly not on their level.

Good list, pretty accurate; I agree with this for the most part.

Good list i think mister fantastic should be on that list marvels smartest man

Richards is a bit smarter than Doom though.

They say Dr Doom was held back only by his own pride so perhaps he is smarter. He's the only one who can claim to be the best in science AND magic

Maybe but magic is more skill.

I like it, though Banner is on par with Tony, and Cho would be a bit higher.

Pretty nice list. Isn’t franklin richards like one of the smartest in marvel?

I didn't want to include beings with extreme levels of cosmic power. Its why I excluded Metron and the Phantom Stranger.

Then you should remove Brainiac and add some one like Ted Kord or Tim Drake.

Tim Drake was already there but I added Ted Kord

Nice list, though the difference between Tony and Bruce (if any) is infinitely smaller than Bruce and* Black Panther.

Your saying BP is smarter?

Bruce >= Tony > BP
Although this is a bit more of an opinion thing.

I put Bruce a bit slower because he doesn't have much time to actually test his knowledge. I actually agree with you but I thought people might call me biased or say Banner doesn't have enough feats.

Bruce and Hulk are not the same, though I agree with you on about the feats.

I agree which is what I meant when I said he doesn't have much time as Banner himself

No I mean would people still be able to use the bias card for Banner?

That's a good point. Perhaps his very close association could still be counted

Maybe.

Were's Moon Girl and Valeria Richards?

Moon Girl isn't as smart as we're told and Valeria's too young

Why? Moon Girl is hella smart, and so is Valeria

thanos>shuri

@MoNsTeR Well you are not wrong but the russo brothers said that shuri is the smartest so I couldn't ignore that (even though she is not the smartest imo ).

i think they never read comics lol after what did they do to hulk
and make captain marvel most powerful character in mcu

@Dhruv Nice list. For some reason I didn't include villains. It is true the Russos said that but they also said Fat Thor is the strongest Thor so they have no credibility therefore Shuri is not the smartest in the MCU and Captain Marvel is not the most powerful.

what really shuri tenth thats stupid

I would have Shuri at first.

Tbh I kinda forgot about her, and I didn't want to change every number. But no she wouldn't be first. The list is smartest not most educated.