ThorvsHulk

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351 wins (69.8%)
Thor Thor Odinson
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Hulk Bruce Banner
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Poe
Poe 20 h 15 m
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor CKT vs Immortal Hulk wouldn’t be to bad of a fight
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 3 h 35 m
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Thor Imagine CKT + Immortal Hulk vs Knull
Taurus
Taurus 13 d
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Hulk Ever heard the saying "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger"?
Uzumaki_Naruto
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Thor Thor is a god hulk is a wannabe god you do the math
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Taurus
Taurus 16 d
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Hulk God + Puny = "Puny God"
MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 15 d
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Hulk hulk claps gods 🤣
Taurus
Taurus 15 d
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Hulk green guy gets gods good
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 15 d
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Hulk Even Thor himself sees Hulk as so much more.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 3 h 32 m
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Thor @Tyrannus Thor sees Hulk as much more than humans, not himself or gods.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 h 31 m
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Hulk More recently he called Hulk the devil. That's just as if not bigger than the gods.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 h 27 m
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Thor Don't take it so literally either
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 h 9 m
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Hulk It was later found to be quite literal as TOBA does possess him. He has become something to rival the gods
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 h 6 m
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Thor That's not base Hulk, that's Immortal Hulk who has a separate profile.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 h 2 m
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Hulk The IH is still THE Hulk its just that he's not the savage Hulk so much anymore.
MrJaeger07
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Thor Immortal Hulk is still an alternate story, it doesn't mean that the Hulk base will be that powerful forever, it's just a power buff that they make him just like CKT, unfortunately they always end up returning to normal.
Atemporal
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Hulk slaps him and sends him to sleep lmao
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Uzumaki_Naruto
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Lmfao Thor godblasts his ass to valhalla
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 15 d
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Hulk @Uzumaki_Naruto That won't stop Hulk
MrJaeger07
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Thor That has stopped way more powerful beings, why not Hulk?
Taurus
Taurus 13 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger Hulk has one-shotted way more powerful beings, why not Thor?
MrJaeger07
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Thor @Taurus Stop repeating all I say and be original with your arguments mate.
Taurus
Taurus 13 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger Please, please, PLEASE tell me you are kidding dude.
Savage
Savage 19 d
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Hulk Hulk wins. Anyone care to debate?
HulkMoMo
HulkMoMo 21 d
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Hulk Hulk would win someone debate me NOW
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 21 d
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Hulk Your right though
Taurus
Taurus 20 d
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Hulk Yeah
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GODBLAST 1 mo 5 d
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Thor hulk is weak to magic
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Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk Nope.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 5 d
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Thor No lol
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk Its like most of the arguments against Hulk are made up and just random now.
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GODBLAST 1 mo 5 d
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Thor Sorry my source was very wrong, hulk isn't weak to magic but I think I read a comic that hulk was turned into Bruce Banner when he gets to tired and weak to do anything.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 4 d
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Hulk Thor is weak to the color green.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 4 d
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Hulk Hulk can tire if he's not angry and no longer wants to fight.
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GODBLAST 29 d
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Thor This is what I think, if thor keeps hulk in good fight hulk soon gets dumber and dumber and dumber till the point he passes out / hits himself since he is angry at every creature/ if he is too dumb he could not want to fight anymore since he could not pick what is will and not, tell me if I am wrong.
Dhruv
Dhruv 29 d
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Hulk Hulk gets dumber and dumber and hits him until he passes out !!!??? 😂😂. Not at all, hulk's intelligence increases with his anger (evident in wwh and wbh states), and why would he hit himself, he would rather almost kill thor rather than attacking himself. He doesn't get dumber, bro, not at all.
Savage
Savage 19 d
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Hulk Thor gets tired. Hulk gets stronger. Hulk smash.
Oblivion
Oblivion 1 mo 5 d
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Thor Thor BFR and hax stomp,he can bypass his regen with God Blast
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IsaacStreed 1 mo 9 d
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Thor lol remember when bruce banner couldnt turn into hulk in infinity war?
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Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 8 d
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Hulk lol remember when a bot mixed up comics and the MCU?
Savage
Savage 19 d
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Hulk We aren't talking about the MCU here
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 12 d
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Thor Considering that a base Thor is far superior in every way to a base Hulk, Thor could handle him in many ways before the Hulk rages to that point
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 12 d
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Hulk He's not better in strength, healing or ability to boost himself. That's why Thor's never been able to do so before.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 12 d
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Thor Yes, Hulk maybe has better brute strength feats, but what does the context of Defenders #10 issue tell you when they were evenly matched in strength for a whole hour? Hulk in theory was getting angry and more angry every minute and even so nothing changed and that's the point, it may not always be necessary to bring ridiculous feats or do so many assumptions to determine a ''winner'', perhaps it's enough to analyze the fights with better reading comprehension and above all, to know what exactly the comic wants to convey us.
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 9 d
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Hulk The writer actually tried to portray them as equal, which was a good thought, but in doing so he made a mistake. Either hulk's strength was not increasing or both of their strength was increasing over the course of time, both cases were outright wrong.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 9 d
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Thor @Dhruv Or simply the writer wanted to present a base Hulk that in strength didn't even reach Thor's heels (which agrees with my previous argument) and as the struggle progressed, the Hulk's strength increased but Thor's strength was requiring more and more percentage of use, perhaps If the struggle had lasted longer, Hulk would have surpassed Thor in strength but in 2h? before Thor is outmatched he could come up with a lot of things to stop him, the Hulk isn't unstoppable either.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 8 d
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Hulk Notice how Thor never truly beats Hulk after fighting him that long?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 8 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger07 Hulk wasn't getting angry there. If he was then Thor would have began to start struggling. Assuming Thor has a stronger base strength then why didn't he overpower Hulk in the very beginning or ever?
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 8 d
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Hulk I can also make assumptions like this, hulk was not in the mood of fighting thor so his strength was not increasing, or both were holding back immensely and had to increase their strength every passing second to match the other's strength.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 8 d
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Thor @Taurus Of course, anyone who fights the Hulk for so long sooner or later will be overcome because that is what benefits the Hulk, but it does not remove the possibility that he can be defeated during the battle's start.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 8 d
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Thor @Tyrannus Never? There have been times when Thor has stopped the Hulk, but I guess it doesn't happen that often due to how much Thor holds back when he starts fighting with him and that's always his big problem, he doesn't know how to use the correct amount of power for him thanks to the fear of doing real harm to Bruce and even the writers have said it, can also happen that Thor trusts himself a lot and Hulk always ends up exceeding the limit that Thor believed he had, which doesn't mean that it surpasses him nor much less, but rather to their expectations (another Thor problem, underestimating the power of the Hulk)
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 7 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger Even if you want to argue that it might work here, but certainly not the other fight we're arguing about as they have no knowledge of each other.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 7 d
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Thor I never argued that in the other battle
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 6 d
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Hulk We have already proved hulk holds back too and thor has let loose several times and put the life of ordinary people at stake just to prove he is more powerful than hulk.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 6 d
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Thor @Dhruv Yes but it happens more in reverse
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 6 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger07 Saying Thor doesn't win as often because he holds back doesn't work because he only holds back against mortals. He's described Hulk as far more. Hulk also holds back just as if not more because of his ability to do more damage.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 6 d
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not voted Hulk holding back more than Thor? I don't even read that much Thor comics and I know that isn't true.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 6 d
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Hulk Well I mean you don't really know Hulk all that much anyway
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 6 d
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not voted I don't have to agree with you on every battle to know the character i'm discussing, nor do I have to follow your same line of reasoning.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 6 d
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Thor @Tyr Once again, where do you get that Thor only holds back himself against mortals? why he would even have to do it if he always fights much more than mortal beings and it wouldn't be logical then to say ''he contains himself in all his fights'' as many writers have said on many occasions, Thor holding himself back is not due to the rival that faces but the fear of hurting some innocent or exceeding collateral damage.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 6 d
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Hulk @Mr_Incognito I thought you said we know way more about Hulk?

@MrJaeger But that's the only way Thor could win. So at least change your vote for the other battle.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 6 d
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Thor Necessity to downvote my comment?
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 5 d
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not voted @Tauris Yes, but that doesn’t mean that I know nothing about the character.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk @Mr_Incognito Its not about agreeing. You consistently make false statements against Hulk even after being told otherwise.
@MrJaeger07 It was from that scan I sent you where it said Thor holds back against mortals. But as Thor has admitted, Hulk is more than that.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 5 d
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not voted Prove it. You have a lot of proving to do. Give me examples of these "false statements."
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 5 d
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not voted @MrJaeger07 The Hulk fanclub will downvote you if you don't agree with them.
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk Not really, if he says something wrong, then that's the purpose of downvote, isn't it.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 5 d
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not voted It only seems to happen on battles with Hulk.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 5 d
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Thor @Dhruv So what did I say wrong here?
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Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk I didn't downvote you, in fact I was never a part of the debate at that point, plus I am curious how you were able to post a picture of that.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 5 d
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Thor @Tyrannus from which scan Thor said that he doesn't holds back against his friend Bruce? what does the fact he's much more than a human have to do?
@Dhruv Sure, you were speaking for your other debate partners, right? So why if according to you, when I say something that "is wrong" they downvote me, then did they do it with that message anyway? plus, that's a little google photos trick
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk I guess someone was debating with you in that hammer excluding battle and when you said, I never argued in that battle, maybe he thought that you did argue in that battle so he downvoted. I actually don't know the reason tbh.

Oh google photos, got it. I hope you don't take the picture in a negative way, its a meme and a compliment for you.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 5 d
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Thor @Dhruv Well I didn't do it at all, I think this time I'll agree with @Incognito's theory hm.
fun fact x2: that photo is too funny lmao
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk @Mr_Incognito You say lots of false statements all the time yet no one's downvoted you yet. Stop playing the victim. You've repeatedly lied about Superman being able to kill Banner, Superman beating Hulk in that crossover, Hulk getting tired out when he won't if angry and more importantly you lie about me apparently never proving anything.
You need to stop this obsessive hatred over Hulk. I can think of a few characters I've always voted in favour off (Hulk not being one of them) but you don't make a thing about them. But if I ever make an argument for Hulk against a DC character you don't like it.
@MrJaeger07 Remember that scan where it said Thor holds back against mortals? Here Thor admits Hulk has always been much more.

Hulk isn't mortal so Thor can't afford to hold back against him. To be fair I'm not sure Devil Hulk will either.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 5 d
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not voted Superman can kill Banner. You’re comparing an alien who destroys planets to a gun and a knife. We already went over how Superman won. In that very crossover Hulk tired himself out, he also reverted back when he fought Sentry. It isn’t obsessive hatred, you just aren’t doing the character any favors. I’ve already said Hulk is in the top 10 greatest, don’t hate him. Because generally, whenever I bring feats to the table, the only arguments you give are about Hulk’s supposedly unbeatable regen and getting stronger. You can’t just wave away everything when your argument is always the same. You phrase your arguments as if he is unbeatable when Iron Man, Namor, Thor, Wolverine, Thing, etc. have all taken him down in spite of his “infinite strength.” That’s what I have a problem with.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 4 d
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Hulk What defines "God" anyway? Someone with a lot of power? Hulk's a God then I guess.

Also @Mr_Incognito You might know about Hulk but if I were you I would except the facts when three knowledgeable Hulk fans are bringing feats/scans and the only argument you and @MrJaeger got is "not logical". Also, I THOUGHT HULK DESTROYS WOLVERINE HUH??? Not the first time you've changed your narrative huh. And also, death is death. Banner/Hulk are immortal. Just except the facts/feats/statements/scans and move on.
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 4 d
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Hulk @Mr_Incognito All those defeats have happened for a reason. Namor has defeated hulk under water the first time they met, but the reason was that they later on became friends and formed a team. If hulk would have defeated namor, namor wouldn't have been on hulk's team.

At that time, the two characters were compared by saying hulk was the strongest on land while namor was the strongest in water.
The time namor defeated hulk outside water was when he was possessed by a demon and was in grey hulk form (weakest version) and was fighting in sunlight which is his weakness, the reason why he lost is because he was portrayed as a villain to be stopped, so obviously you wouldn't expect namor to get ripped apart by hulk.
With iron man's case, again hulk was a villain at that time so obviously iron man would defeat hulk due to plot but the interesting thing is that he had Mk 5 armor while battling hulk. Now, after developing an armor specifically designed to fight against hulk (hulkbuster), he has lost everytime. Hulkbuster>>>Mk5 and hulk lost to Mk5 but defeated hulkbuster, that's plot I am talking about.
Wolverine has rarely defeated hulk, he has defeated hulks of different universes (old man hulk and maestro) but never in Earth 616.It usually ends like

Thing recently defeated IH who was controlled by puppet master and I would like to say one thing, hulk has a very bad record in winning when he is mind controlled, because he is then considered a villain and plot wants him to be defeated, and second is that the person controlling him is not able to fully control his anger which limits his potential and inside his mind, banner constantly tries to fight with the person who mind controlled hulk. In thing's case too, thing was the hero, IH was the villain, thing did accept hulk was a lot stronger than him, but thanks to plot, he did defeat hulk even though he broke his hand in the process.

Thor has defeated hulk, but so has hulk defeated thor. Thor also is said to have infinite strength (only on a few occasions though).
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 4 d
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Hulk @Mr_Incognito Your missing the point. Banner won't die. Superman attempting to vaporise Banner would bring out the Hulk again. The result is always the same.
Yeah we went over that battle and you were unable to show Superman being able to defeat Hulk. Until you show me a scan of Superman KOing or killing Hulk, you never has and never will.
Hulk doesn't tire fighting. Banner literally goes World Breaker shortly after fighting Sentry so he clearly wasn't tired there either.
You've been shown several scans at this point but you just will not accept it and instead continue to lie about him. That's like you showing me Superman flying but I still doubt his ability to fly over and over. Your not doing the Hulk any favours.
Again your just generalising Hulk voters. I've never said Hulk is unbeatable. But you keep pretending I do so you can paint me as the fanboy. There's context to Hulk's losses to those people. Ordinarily Hulk stomps all of them.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 4 d
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not voted @Taurus Hulk does destroy wolverine, however wolverine did beat him once.
@Tyrannus It would be too fast for Hulk to come out. He could do it before Banner knew what hit him. Superman clearly won that first fight. Hulk tired himself out and turned back. Stop calling me a liar. You try to take the high ground but you continue to just use ad-hominem. I already disproved all of the ways you said I apparently “lied.”
You are the fanboy. I have my preferences too, but I come out and say it. You somehow think you don’t have any bias whatsoever, which is wrong.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 4 d
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Hulk And Batman's beaten Superman. What's your point apart from trying to discredit Hulk?
Hulk has been mutilated and had his heart ripped out and he still came back. He always comes back.
The fact that you call 2 people who stop fighting a CLEAR win for Superman just shows your bias. There was no KO or death.
Your are lying because you keep saying Hulk tired himself out. Its been disproven too many times now. Calling you a liar isn't ad-hominem but if you don't like it then stop lying. You lie again by claiming you've disproven it. I'm still waiting on that by the way.
So you accuse me of ad-hominem but then you call me a fanboy. Now that is clear ad-hominem. You've never been able to prove I have any bias. Stop being petty. But at least you've admitted now that you go against Hulk because of bias.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 3 d
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Hulk @Mr_Incognito My point is that you use fights both ways. For example Hulk vs Wolvie, I say that Wolverine and Iron Man have a chance to draw WW because Wolverine has fought on par with Hulk (and occasionally Tony), yet you said Tony is a non-factor and that Hulk always rips Wolverine apart. Like in another debate you might say that the one time Wolverine beat him was an outlier and didn't count because it was different versions.
Oh and Hulk has fought harder opponents before and didn't transform, maybe because he didn't trust them like he trusted "cape man"? If Superman goes all out (which he won't) then Hulk will without a doubt go Worldbreaker. If he doesn't go all out, then Hulk will also go Wolrdbreaker (but much later on). How come all his fights don't end this way? Because Hulk holds back, or just defeats them before he gets to that point.

@Tyrannus Not only that but when Banner is really angry he can transform straight into Worldbreaker. It doesn't matter though because he starts this fight as Hulk.
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Savage
Savage 19 d
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Hulk The Hulk doesn't die easy. Thor just doesn't have the means to kill him.
MrJaeger07
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Thor @Savage Thor definitely has it. In fact he's one of the few characters that were created to contain Hulk and one of the few who can really beat him in a fight without BFR.
Taurus
Taurus 18 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger My brother, are you trying to say that Thor can kill Hulk?

Hulk was created to be the strongest there is. The only character to be created for that purpose in fact. And Hulk is one of the few who can beat Thor in a fight without BFR.
Savage
Savage 18 d
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Hulk Actually @MrJaeger07 is right, Thor was created to be stronger than the Hulk. But things change over time. For instance, Galactus was created to be marvel's most powerful being, but that sure changed.
MrJaeger07
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Thor @Taurus Yes I am.

Maybe Hulk was created to be the strongest there is, but that doesn't mean that nobody can beat him and being ''the strongest'' is only a physical aspect, such as speed, resistance, etc...
MrJaeger07
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Thor @Savage You're literally saying the same thing as Tyrannus lol, plus, can you prove that Thor's status quo changed like Galactus' did?
Savage
Savage 18 d
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Hulk Oh sorry If I said the same thing as Tyrannus, it's not like I read the whole convo.
Taurus
Taurus 16 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger Prove that Hulk's changed.
MrJaeger07
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Thor I has no intention to prove it, my intention is see if you guys can prove Thor's status quo of being superior to Hulk changed
Taurus
Taurus 16 d
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Hulk Thor can't be stronger than Hulk if Hulk is the strongest there is. Therefore disprove my point which itself is a disproof to your point.
MrJaeger07
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Thor Hulk was stated as the stronger there is, until they created Thor a few months later as someone superior to Hulk, said by Stan Lee himself, prove it has changed as Galactus' statement so far.
Taurus
Taurus 15 d
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Hulk Lol Tony made Hulkbuster to beat Hulk your point?
Taurus
Taurus 13 d
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Hulk @MrJaeger ^^
MrJaeger07
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Thor ''Lol Tony made Hulkbuster to beat Hulk your point?'' What does that have to do with this?
Taurus
Taurus 22 h 3 m
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Hulk If you can't see the comparison I drew than I don't know what to tell you.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 3 h 27 m
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Thor Well Tony isn't the writer himself nor much less Stan Lee, that's the difference between their creations lol
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 h 28 m
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Hulk Point being things have changed. Just like Galactus isn't the strongest anymore, Thor isn't stronger than Hulk.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 h 23 m
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Thor Just because the idea about Galactus has changed doesn't mean the same thing happened with Thor, or can you prove it?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 h 7 m
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Hulk Stan Lee wrote Thor #385. In their fight Hulk was shown to be physically stronger than Hulk and leaves unscathed while Thor was left bloodied.
ArshiaShahlaei
ArshiaShahlaei 1 mo 18 d
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Thor anti force blast
god blast ( even low power shoots )
thermo blast


this are just 3 blasts that thor can use to kill hulk easily !

please let me to dont tell about another ways ..
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 18 d
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Hulk You don't need to keep spamming new comments. Just reply to your own ones because people including I have replied refuting these claims.
Savage
Savage 19 d
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Hulk All of those simply make the hulk stronger.
ArshiaShahlaei
ArshiaShahlaei 1 mo 18 d
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Thor thor just need a low energy god blast to kill hulk
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MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 1 mo 18 d
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Hulk 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Savage
Savage 19 d
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Hulk Incorrect. It would simply tick off the hulk, making him stronger.
ArshiaShahlaei
ArshiaShahlaei 1 mo 18 d
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Thor Thor has Mercy ?
Hulk doesn't ?!

ok
make thor insane and bring him into warriors madness
then he stomps all the avengers
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 18 d
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Hulk That happened already and Hulk still controlled that fight pretty easily.
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 18 d
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Hulk I would correct you @ArshiaShahlaei
Hulk has Mercy ?
Thor doesn't ?!
Both have admitted holding back but thor has gone all out against hulk two or three times while hulk truly never has gone all out against thor.
ok
make thor insane and bring him into warriors madness
then he stomps all the avengers
As @Tyrannus already showed. the fight took place and hulk sort of bfr'd thor to save him from a nuke. Savage and classic hulk pretty much took the effort of whole team to stop and what about hulk turning world breaker where he would easily stomp thor.
Prophet
Prophet 2 mo 18 d
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Hulk Here is some logic: Thor is powerful and really strong with awesome feats... Thor is not immortal BTW... Hulk wins because he is Immortal and the angrier and mad he becomes the more powerful he is so he could beat Thor since Thr is not Immortal although the battle would go on for a long time Hulk would just get madder and angreier that he is not wijnning until he eventually becomes more powerful than Thor and beats him.
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Dhruv
Dhruv 2 mo 17 d
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Hulk Yes true. But honestly both characters get nerfed in their battles. Thor does not use his major attacks against hulk, as if he never knew them. While hulk's abilities, it seems, gets disappeared from him when he fights thor. In other battles they perform well but in their own 1v1 battle, both get nerfed hard.
Taurus
Taurus 2 mo 16 d
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Hulk Especially in the MCU.
Taurus
Taurus 2 mo 20 d
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Hulk Alright I'm back in the game and ready to throw down. Who's up for a debate?
u8
u8comfyp 2 mo 20 d
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Thor it will be a bit of a struggle but Thor wins
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Dhruv
Dhruv 2 mo 10 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Well if it's a struggle then hulk wins and I am not going to say that hulk dialogue for the 1000th time now.
Savage
Savage 19 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk The more time passes the better chance Hulk has at winning.
De
Deaney 2 mo 28 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Thor actually not show his true power against the Hulk because Hulk is his friend. Don't get me wrong, Hulk is powerful but Thor will beat Hulk if he really want to !!!
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 mo 28 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk You do know Hulk also holds back a lot. Its sad how many people don't make the same assumptions for Hulk.
Dhruv
Dhruv 2 mo 28 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk @Tyrannus Because many people forget about hulk's conscience and think that since he goes on rampages regularly. he would never hold back (which obviously, we know isn't true).
Mu
Murderess 2 mo 28 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Hi, i think thor wins because in ragnarok we had a glimpse of their battle and we saw that thor won the battle. And also thor is the god of thunder and one of MCU's most powerful superheroe
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 mo 28 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk This isn't MCU this is comic versions
Savage
Savage 19 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk This ain't the MCU
Mo
Mohammadebrahimi 3 mo 8 h 42 m
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Hi, I think the Hulk wins because Thor has mercy on him, but the Hulk kills him, and he has bigger masterpieces than Thor, and he has a lot of power.
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Dhruv
Dhruv 2 mo 29 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Hulk always holds back . Sometimes thor goes berserk and all out but hulk has never gone all out against him, and has never killed anyone( except maestro hulk who killed very superhero, including thor).
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 3 mo 7 h 18 m
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor Thor oblirates this wanked hulk
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Savage
Savage 19 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk The Hulk is stronger than Thor
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R57iDntD0x0
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 4 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk That guy was so biased to Thor
Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 8 h 49 m
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk He literally gave a win to thor which the writer himself stated to be a draw and just ignored some bfr and gave the win to thor.
XSegaTeamPhilosophyX
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=841_jwfFYQk
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 mo 28 d
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Hulk Stan Lee at the time also said Galactus was the most powerful being in Marvel. Like Thor he's changed his mind since.
If you want to send links then make it a clickable link rather than just copy pasting the url address.
Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 7 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk 1. Thor#73 Thor wins 1-0



King Thor kills hulk without any trouble.

2.Thor almost kills hulk. Thor wins 2-0


3. Maestro kills thor. Hulk wins 2-1



4.Avengers 3 Draw



5.Sub Mariner 35 Draw


6. Defenders 10 Draw


7.Hulk 255 Draw




Honestly hulk won but it is some sort of bfr so i called it a draw.

8.Infinity Crusade 4 Draw


Thor destroys hulk's jet so hulk floats away from the battle.

9.Incredible Hulk 440 Draw
This is warrior madness thor whose powers are 10 times base thor. Hulk is called maestro however i don't honestly think he is the maestro we know.







10. Incredible Hulk Annual 26 Draw










Here hulk had the chance to win and defeat thor but he chooses not to do so and turns away from the battle. But thor engages further.




The writer himself stated the match to be a draw saying hulk is stronger while thor is more powerful.

11.Hulk: Let the battle begin Hulk wins 2-2
Hulk destroys the wrecking crew.Thor catches hulk off guard and hits him with lightning.




I am posting other matches on reply cause i think the message is too long so it is not getting posted.
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Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 7 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk 12.Fear Itself Draw
Thor faces an amped hulk (Nul) and bfr him , falling unconscious in the process while hulk continued his rampage on another planet.











13. Avengers 1 Hulk wins 3-2




14.Incredible Hulk 300 Draw





15.The Mighty Thor 385 Hulk wins 4-2




Hulk seems to be hurt but this is not the case. He gets back up the very next moment and knocks thor out and fights with thor for a very long period of time .














The fight went pretty long and as expected hulk got stronger while thor's stamina wore out. He struggled to walk properly and was left with many injuries.

16.Mighty Thor 489 Thor wins 4-3


Hela interrupted the fight but by and large, thor seemed to have control over the fight.

17.Immortal Hulk 7 Hulk wins 5-3




18. Hulk wins 6-3



19. Hulk wins 7-3

I don't have scans for this so I am just posting the end result.

Final score- Hulk wins 7-3
Now you can argue for the rest of your life that thor holds back and other stuff and disrespect others and say it was pis or just abuse the writer but I just gave how their fights went.And please reply if I missed on a battle.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 6 d
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Hulk Most people who say Thor wins put unfair double standards on Hulk anyway. They say Thor holds back but so does Hulk. They portray Hulk as the villain but its usually Hulk who has to save the people from Thor. Facts are facts. Hulk has always been better.
Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk You are right @Tyrannus. Plus, if you do see thor fans say thor keeps bragging so he loses. But hulk brags a lot than thor and wastes time saying like hulk strongest one there is ,hulk crush puny god, and thor mostly catches hulk off guard. Plus thor's majority fights have been with professor hulk and not our regular hulk.Hulk always holds back cause banner doesnt want to hurt anyone. But when he doesn't hold back then its somewhat of a maestro result.
Poe
Poe 2 mo 25 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor Honestly thanks for making this I enjoyed reading it I might disagree but it definitely can almost change my mind
Dhruv
Dhruv 2 mo 25 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk @Poe Thanks it took me about 30 minutes to do all this stuff.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 17 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk My profile pic :D
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 12 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Fear itself issue was definitely a victory for thor so say it was BFR, thor was able to oneshot Angrir and then fight a good time against Nul sending him into space afterwards (many believe that it doesn't count cuz Hulk didn't die and still had a lot to give, but the only way to beat an opponent is not by killing him, what Thor did with Nul was also a way to win thanks to his intelligence and combat experience).
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 5 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk BFR isn't winning. You win by KO or death.
Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 11 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Hulk is the most underrated character on this site.
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Poe
Poe 1 mo 19 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor Agreed people think aquman could beat him
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 19 d
Thor vs Hulk
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not voted Aquaman has no chance against Hulk. His trident could hurt him, but Hulk would just regenerate. Plus Hulk is miles ahead in strength and durability.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 1 mo 19 d
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Thor @Mr_Incognito Well, that's further proof you're not biased.

@Dhruv I agree he's underrated, but he's not "the most" underrated.
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk @HolyJoe Among the popular characters, he is one of the most underrated. There are characters who are more underrated but they are also not that popular usually.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk @HolyJoe Hulk is the most underrated in regards to power not popularity.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
1 year member
not voted I would argue that Barry Allen would take that trophy.
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Both are almost equally underrated despite being super strong, I agree on that.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 18 d
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not voted I think the difference is that when you think of the Hulk, you picture someone who you don’t want to cross. A giant angry and super strong green monster. For the Flash, a lot of people look at him and just think “he’s just a guy who runs fast, he’s not that powerful.” So i don’t think the association is made as much with Flash as it is with the Hulk.
Dhruv
Dhruv 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Yup flash pretty much can do literally anything with that speed but if you ask people the superpowers of hulk, they might only come up with like super strength and durability. Most of hulk's powers are unknown to many people as most watch MCU and MCU did a disgrace to hulk. Same with barry, his speed can help him deliver unbelievable damage . People just think with speed he will only dodge attacks but can't do any meaningful damage, which is false.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk The Flash can obliterate nearly anyone without them even knowing.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk That's exactly why people underestimate the Hulk. They think he's a slow monster who gives it his all when he's faster than people realise and holds back immensely.
Because of Flash's powers he either wins or he doesn't. There's rarely a middle road answer.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 17 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk @Tyrannus True in regards to Hulk, but I'd say some fights such as Flash vs Wonder Woman are more difficult.
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 24 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Wanda has extraordinary abilities with the number of spell she has. Wanda is able to control weather, fly, cast illusion and make force fields. She is also able to do telekinesis and telepathy. Not to mention that Wanda has better powers such as soul manipulation, pain manipulation, probability manipulation, time manipulation, mind control, astral projection, transmutation, and so on.
She also has element Control :
- Pyrokinesis
- Aerokinesis
- Electrokinesis
- Hydrokinesis
- Terrakinesis
- Photokinesis
But, of the many abilities needed, the most powerful is the ability of Wanda to manipulate reality.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
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Hulk What does Scarlet Witch have to do with Hulk vs Thor? You didn't mention either of them.
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk 😉
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk If you wanted a place to fanboy why not do so on her page?
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk ?
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk O
De
Deaney 3 mo 16 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor I know, I know you are Scarlet Witch fan and she is powerful but it is absolutely irrelevant in this battle lol !!!
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 16 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Okay...
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 18 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk @Lapiz_Lazuli I know this was probably your intention but if you keep this up ima pull an Oblivian.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 4 mo 7 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor Hulk let the battle begin
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 7 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Since you didn't finish your sentence, I will.
"Hulk let the battle begin", were Thor was clearly being shown above Hulk, until Thor got distracted.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor How the heck was Thor distracted? He was lining up for the killing strike as stated by JBS. Let me fix that: Thor was shown as better until plot induced stupidity showed up and carried Hulk out of it.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Lol, I like that better. But he was. When he was hammering Hulk, then he said "The better man has won". Then, Hulk distracted him by saying "no win, Hulk stronger!" then, he got his arm and started hitting him.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
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Thor How does saying that distract him? You’re still ignoring that JBS, the person who wrote the comic said Thor was lining up to deal the final blow. If you started talking during a fight, that doesn’t mean you distracted them. If Thor was distracted by that then wouldn’t that mean he’s a terrible fighter? But he’s not as we all know too well.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor He shouldn't have listened to Hulk when he was speaking to him. This delayed his time to strike, giving Hulk the possibility to strike before him.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor Why did it delay him? Do you have any evidence to suggest that he listened to him because he attacked BEFORE Hulk was done speaking! Seriously do you actually believe that? You’re now trying to say that Hulk outsmarted him which also didn’t happen.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
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Thor Also Thor attacked first, Hulk caught his arm mid swing and used it against him.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Hulk didn't really catch his arm.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 6 d
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Thor If Hulk didn't "outsmart" him, then, he would've moved faster than Thor, including while he was talking.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
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Thor Tell that to the author of the book who said he did. Even in that scan you can clearly see Mjolnir was dipped. You do realize that you can move around while talking so that doesn’t mean anything.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor 1. Another evidence that Hulk was faster than Thor!
2. Hulk wasn't moving while talking.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
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Thor 1: he moved at the exact same time if not slightly after him. You don’t need to be faster to do that and since Hulk was desperate while Thor was just casual, I think it’s safe to say Hulk might have moved slightly faster in that instance.
2: yes he was, here’s the proof: In your scan Hulk says “Hulk is the strongest...” if you pull up the next scan (which I don’t have at the moment) Hulk says “...there will ever be” as he grabs the hammer and hits him with it.

I’m going to bed, see you tomorrow.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 4 mo 6 d
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Thor You are forgetting Hulk keeps getting angrier it's not pis ofcourse Thor was winning in the start and almost won but hulk gets stronger
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
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Thor @Dusk: are you gonna reply?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 6 d
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Hulk Your both wrong and @jong is right. Your forgetting the obvious. Hulk gets stronger as he fights so of course he was going to overpower Thor. The excuses made are almost laughable. It'd be PIS if that didn't happen.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
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Thor HULK. OVERPOWERING. THOR. IS. PERFECTLY. FINE. THE. WAY. HE. DID. IT. WAS. PURE. BS. How many times will I have to explain this? What excuses did I make that were pathetic?

Answer these questions without dismissing them!
1: if I’m slightly stronger than say a Knight then can I now grab his arm and behead him with his own sword that easily?
2: Had that comic have been say, Captain America grabbing Wolverine's arm and impaling him through the head with his own claws or Bane grabbing Batman’s arm and slitting his throat with his own batarang while he holds on to it or Doomsday grabbing Wonder Woman’s arm and beheading her with her sword while she’s holding onto it, Would you not call that PIS If so then why is this so different?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 5 d
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Hulk Mainly saying that its PIS when it played out exactly like it should have.
1. If you can do it quickly then yes.
2. I wouldn't call any of them PIS because that's all logical. Another example look at how Anakin almost beheaded Obi-Wan in ROTS because of his mechanical arm.
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 24 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Well, the Most important thing is, Wanda Maximoff is more powerful than both of them.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk If either wanted her dead she'd be dead in a second.
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk No.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
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Hulk Yes
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 20 d
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Hulk No
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 20 d
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Thor Lol no
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
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Hulk Stop trolling. Your not funny
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
3 year member
Thor Me?
Dhruv
Dhruv 4 mo 19 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Current version of hulk (immortal hulk) stomps. Knocking out thor with a single punch two times and cracking his skull in one punch is damn impressive. And he also knocked jane foster and hercules just by radiating energy from his body. Hulk has beaten thor many times and those who say hulk beats thor by knocking thor with his hammer then why can't he use other's hammer. How many times has thor beaten hulk without his hammer? People are saying as it is illegal to use other's weapons. Plus immortal hulk doesn't need to use thor's hammer. He just knocks him in a couple of good hits now as he has done in the comics.
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 19 d
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Thor I didn't read most of your comment for one reason; these are not the current versions! And still, Thor stomps in his current, Cosmic King Thor version.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 19 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Mjolnir is allowed in this fight. Thor holds back, even against the Hulk as he's stated before. And Thor has defeated The Hulk too.
BeastPrime
BeastPrime 4 mo 16 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor That thor was unworthy
Dhruv
Dhruv 4 mo 16 d
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Hulk Hulk too holds back. Plus hulk also killed galactus,franklin richards , mr immortal,metatron and ended all life in the multiverse. He gets his power from One Below All. So even thor is amped by power cosmic he can't take down Cosmic Immortal Hulk. And i know thor has defeated hulk but it wasn't immortal hulk. Could Thor really defeat a skyfather level immortal being. I doubt that. Plus if someone says immortal hulk is weak to sunlight. that's not always the case. He has resisted it when hulk and banner both want to work together. And against thor, they surely will work together.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor This ain’t TOBA Hulk.
Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 28 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Do you guys remember when hulk defeated onslaught with one punch when the entire avengers,fantastic four and x men were not able to put a scratch on his armor. I know you know it you but you are just ignoring.
Michealdem17
Michealdem17 4 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk Hulk has beaten Thor many times
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BeastPrime
BeastPrime 4 mo 16 d
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Thor Thor also has defeated hulk so many times.Hulk feats are nothing against thor feats.His spirit of thunder has even hurt Mikaboshi in Chaos War timeline.Hulk don't have any godly feats.
BeastPrime
BeastPrime 4 mo 16 d
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Thor Sorry I forgot he has also defeated 10,000 Pantheons of God
Michealdem17
Michealdem17 4 mo 16 d
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Hulk Hulk have so many godly Feats like once he once destroyed an asteroid sized twice than earth in a punch held up a planet and destroyed onslaught these are godly Feats
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 6 d
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Hulk And another relevant feat, Hulk beating Thor.
Jo
Joofe11 5 mo 11 h 48 m
Thor vs Hulk
Thor Esta es una pelea muy igualada pero hay factores que la desigualan. Para empezar, en términos físicos son parecidos, ambos tienen una fuerza prácticamente infinita de la cual no se sabe el tope, y en resistencia andan parecidos (thor ha sobrevivido a numerosos ataques de Galactus e incluso de los celestiales) y hulk es todavía más resistente, siendo, de forma física, casi imposible de matar. En términos de fuerza y ataque Hulk ha destruido planetas a puñetazos y luchado con los seres mas fuertes de marvel y Thor ha podido matar a gente que sobrevivió a un ataque de silver surfer que destruyó una galaxia con su god Blast, que además hizo huir a un Galactus hambriento para salvar su vida. En mi opinión este god Blast no mataría a Hulk pero si podría noquearlo, y con sus poderes de control de la meteorología sería difícil que Hulk llegara a acercarse a Thor, puesto que además Thor dobla la velocidad de la luz, y si es listo y no se acerca a Hulk y le ataca a la distancia poco podría hacer este, que incluso pillandolo en el cuerpo a cuerpo no podría acabar con el. También sabemos que Hulk puede emitir poderosas radiaciones gamma, al igual que sabemos que el mjolnir puede absorber toda esta energía y devolversela. Por último y más importante, además de que Thor tiene de forma permanente la Odin Force, poder que rivaliza con Galactus, con el Mjolnir es capaz de acceder a una cantidad casi ilimitada de magia de asgard, siendo los ataques mágicos una de las grandes debilidades de Hulk.
Así que, después de tantos universos destruidos en esta pelea, mi voto es para Thor.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 5 mo 11 d
Thor vs Hulk
Thor I don't think you can compare Hulk and Thor due to battles they've had because they've won fairly the same amounts of time (let's fake, I think Thor won more times...) I don't intend on starting a debate.

Strength: Hulk is able to support the weight of a star. This is impressive, however, the difficulty turns him into Bruce Banner. When he fights, it may cause earthquakes around the world, including nearly destroying the US with a step.
Thor has destroyed a mountain which is not even close to his strongest feat. He's pulled the midgard serpent which is strong enough to destroy earth. He's even withstood the weight of 20 planets!

Durability:

Hulk is able to regenerate from broken organs and punctures. He is also unharmed by hits from Hercules, Thing, Giant Man, Colossus and more of the strongest superheroes on Earth. He also takes many hits from Juggernaut before being knocked out. Another great durability feat Hulk has is takes many, many, many attacks from Hercules.

Thor is unhurt by the direct hit of terminus. Thor also endures a planet destroying beam from an amped Thanos.

Thor is clearly faster than the Hulk. He has already travelled faster than the speed of light. He outspeeds Quicksilver twice. He is capable of travelling faster.

In my earlier scan of Hulk taking many hits from Juggernaut, Juggernaut won because he didn't allow Hulk to regenerate. Thor should be able to do the same thing here.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 6 d
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Hulk Thor's barely got any wins while Hulk has 4 or 5.
Even Joe Fixit was able to break an asteroid twice the size of earth.
Being faster is irrelevant as Hulk as been able to react to him every time.
Juggernaut beat Professor Hulk (the weakest version of Hulk).
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 6 d
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Thor Excuse me what 4 or 5 wins? I only remember him having 3 and maybe 4 if you count Thor needing to BFR an amped Hulk and passing out.
Also Professor Hulk isn’t the weakest Hulk, that’s Grey Hulk.
Being faster is relevant because Thor in character trades blows with people rather than bullrushing them
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 5 d
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Hulk Why would I count Fear Itself as a Hulk win?
1. Mighty Thor #385
2. HLTBB
3. Avenger #1 2012
4. Avengers Assemble 2012
5. Immortal Hulk #7
6. Incredible Hulk annual 2001
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 4 mo 5 d
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Thor 3: prove that Thor was beaten by Hulk in that comic because the next time we see them, they’re both unconscious. All Hulk did was hit Thor while he was distracted.
4: again, he had no way of expecting that which I clearly remember proving.
6: you count it as a Hulk win but ignore when Thor knocked him out in the fairest way imaginable? Hmm interesting.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 5 d
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Hulk 3. Which is why I said maybe.
4. Literally never contested that and have always said it wasn't a clean win but its still a win.
6. Lol you call cheap shotting Hulk in the back of his head the "fairest way imaginable" and yet Hulk knocking Thor down while facing each other is somehow PIS? Double standards much
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 24 d
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Hulk Scarlet Witch forever !!!
MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 3 mo 23 d
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Hulk 20 planets lol 1 star = 1.1 million earths lol
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
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Hulk @Lapis_Lazuli Why you spamming SW comments?
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 20 d
Thor vs Hulk
Hulk 😉
Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 11 d
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Hulk You said thor outspeeded quicksilver twice but what about the time hulk slapped quicksilver.

I wouldn't say hulk is faster than thor but his reaction time is pretty high cause he usually fights silver surfer, sentry and thor himself.
windshadow
windshadow 6 mo 19 d
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Thor Hulk wins:
Avengers Assemble #4- Hulk cheap shots Thor
Hulk: Let the battle begin- Hulk cheap shots Thor
Thor wins:
Fear itself #5- Thor defeated an amped Hulk
Thor: Hammer and Sinew- Thor went all out and decimated Hulk
Mighty Thor #385- Thor held back but still won whereas Hulk went all out
Incredible Hulk Annual 2001- Thor held back heavily but still won
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 6 mo 19 d
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Hulk What part of HLTBB was a cheap shot? Thor was literally facing him.
He also beat Thor in The Mighty Thor #385, Avengers #1 and Immortal Hulk #7.

Fear itself was BFR.
Hammer and Sinew had no context. There's plenty of no context wins for Hulk too.
Thor lost in #385. He was left bloody and bruised while Hulk was fine. No idea how you gave that a win for Thor.
In Hulk Annual 2001 Hulk literally leaves unharmed while Thor was left again with a bloody face.
ThorMathews
ThorMathews 5 mo 17 d
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Thor You my friend are correct. Tyrannus is in denial
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 4 mo 6 d
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Hulk @ThorMathews You saying I'm in denial is ironically you being in denial
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 24 d
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Hulk Scarlet Witch > Thor and Hulk
MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 3 mo 23 d
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Hulk @Lapis_Lazuli
Dhruv
Dhruv 3 mo 23 d
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Hulk In Incredible hulk annual 2001, the writer himself stated it was a draw by stating "Though the hulk may well be stronger,thor proved more powerful." which i think every hulk and thor fans would believe. You dont win a battle if you are powerful or strong. There needs to be a balance between the two. And what about the time when warrior madness thor whose powers are 10 times failed to trouble maestro(it wasn't maestro,hulk himself called maestro). In hulk let the battle begin thor got knocked out by his own hammer when hulk hit him 3 or 4 times . When thor hit hulk with his hammer that many times hulk only bled but thor fainted,showing he has less durability than hulk(I don't know why thor fans think hulk using mjolnir is illegal,can't anyone use another's weapon for yourself). Then fear itself was bfr for hulk,where he continued to rampage and thor fainted just after. And why not include immortal hulk one punching thor and avengers 1 (2012) when he one punched thor again. Thor has agreed he needs hammer to defeat hulk but even with hammer he doesn't seem to have that much of a great record against hulk.
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Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 3 mo 20 d
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ThorMathews
ThorMathews 5 mo 17 d
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Thor Why didn't you?
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Eseosa616 7 mo 4 d
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not voted Everyone will pick Thor because he is more powerful. Hulk has consistently shown to be stronger than Thor and he has beaten him before. Thor has never beaten Hulk unconscious before.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 7 mo 1 d
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Hulk Then why didn't you vote Hulk?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 24 d
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Thor Excuse me not only that's not true but when has Hulk beaten Thor into unconsciousness? I honestly want to know.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 6 mo 24 d
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Hulk Hulk Annual 2001, Hulk Let The Battle Begin, Avengers #1 (2012)
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 24 d
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Thor Hulk Annual 2001: I've already proven that was unfair, Thor also knocked him out aswell. Hulk didn't even knock Thor out for crying out loud, Thor took everything he threw off guard and got right back up.
Hulk Let the Battle Begin: already answered this one numerous times. Do you have any evidence Thor was knocked out or did you just assume?
Avengers #1: again, Thor was caught off guard while he was distracted with a bunch of aliens and stalemated him off panel, we know that happened because Hulk was also knocked out with Mjolnir right next to him when it cut back to him and Thor.

Why is it that all of Hulk's "wins" are either surprise attacks or straight up BS that is contradicted by every fight Thor's been in?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 6 mo 23 d
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Hulk 1. So it's unfair for Hulk but not if Thor does it. I've already proven how it was a cheap shot what Thor did. He still briefly knocked Thor down.
2. I can show you the scan again of Thor's KO'd face looking all bloodied and broken.
3. Still counts. Hulk wasn't knocked out.

Why is it whenever the fight rightfully goes Hulk's way you have a problem. You don't get it. Hulk is simply better.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 23 d
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Thor 1: i've already explain why the two situations are different, if you can't tell the difference then you're not even worth my time to debate. LMAO, you did not, if I remember correctly you were losing until you falsely accused me of using real life logic so get lost if you don't have a proper rebuttal. Now prove that Thor was knocked out with facts, not assumptions!
2: now you're flat out lying, his face wasn't broken solidifying that you still don't understand what a broken face is. He was still conscious proving that he wasn't KOed. Now prove that.
3: okay so why is Hulk allowed to catch Thor off guard but Thor isn't allowed to hit him in the back while they're fighting? I just love seeing hypocrites claim that they aren't hypocritical. And yes he was stop lying!

Imagine being so deluded to think certain things make sense when they don't. I've already said some of Hulk's wins count while you still deny Thor's with lame excuses (still can give a universe of examples if you need and some of them are quite funny). And Imagine being so desperate that you have to make no evidence claims. And answer my question above because Hulk is not simply better, that's a complete headcanonical and fanboyist claim.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 6 mo 22 d
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Hulk 1. You never did. This just shows your hypocrisy that it's bad for Hulk but not for Thor. Wow so you get upset about me showing you losing but you say the same thing to me. I originally used real life examples first until you told me not to then you did the very same thing! Are you Dark_Wing or King Hypocrisy?
2. His face was left bloodied and bruised. Stop lying and check again.
3. Actually I did count Thor's cheap shot I just said if you want to count theses then Hulk has even more wins.

Ring any bells? Be consistent and stop your bias
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 19 d
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Thor 1: I already told you that there was a little difference which I'll explain because you don't have the mental capacity to figure it out for yourself.
Cheapshot definition: "an act of deliberate roughness against a defenseless opponent"
A: explain how Hulk was "defenseless" in that comic? Thor was defenseless because he was using one arm to carry Banner and the other to swing his hammer and wasn't even focused on Hulk.
B: warning. Thor warmed Hulk by making the call lightning gesture and by saying "thou art finished" how did Hulk warn Thor before ambushing him?
C: how they should have been prepared. Thor was carrying an unconscious Bruce Banner, not Hulk; of course he didn't see Hulk's attack coming, it's not his fault that he's not omniscient like you act like he is. Hulk was literally running at Thor while Thor's hack was turned and even leaned forward with his arms out which left an opening that Thor (rightfully) took advantage of. This is all ignoring how the lightning is literally coming from the front only hitting him in the back because of the position he was in, if that counts as a cheap shot that I guess a bunch of other attacks count as cheap shots to simply because you don't like the angle attacks can come from.
D: were they distracted: Thor was, he was carrying Bruce with one arm and swinging Mjolnir with the other and looking completely the other way. Hulk wasn't as he was FREAKING STARING THOR INNTHE FACE! You my friend really need to stop acting like Thor doing something is an equivalent to Hulk doing something completely different just because you don't have a counter, you did this again in our HLTBB debate. Give an example of me using RLL right now! If you want me to use RLL then we can lowball Hulk because there is a limit to how angry a human (like Bruce) can be meaning Hulk has a limit but I haven't because we know from the lore of comics that's not true at all. Imagine being so desperate that you have to attack my username, a name I came up with when I was 12, more than 3 years ago! What's your username? It's obviously a character you like, how long did it take you to come up with that? And I've slaughtered the claim that I'm being a hypocrite. Not seeing any evidence that Thor was KO'ed, another assumption to add to your long list of assumptions.
2: bloodied up is not the same thing as KO'ed so prove that he was KO'ed does it even look like he's KO'ed in the scan? Do you practice Shein (the lightsaber form that Plo Koon and Ahsoka use) because you're hella good at reflecting? How did I lie right there?
3: I've already proven that the attack was fair (see ⬆️) so stop using false equivalents! By your logic Ataru (the lightsaber form) is all about cheapshots because you're trying to get behind an enemy and hit them in the back, every fight any ninja from any franchise is a cheap shot because they hit you in the back, Captain America throwing his shield which misses and then hits the enemy in the back on its way back is a cheap shot, by your logic HLTBB is a cheapshot because Thor wasn't expecting Hulk to lunge at him nor was he ready to defend against PIS (according to the author). Thor never cheapshotted the Hulk unlesss you can prove that he surprised the Hulk which he didn't. Alas why am I debating someone who doesn't even know what a cheapshot is? And your scan doesn't word, try again. Still not seeing proof that Thor was one shotted in that comic?

How the he'l am I being bias and inconsistent or did you (again) pull BS out of nowhere because you don't have a proper rebuttal?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 6 mo 19 d
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Hulk 1. You keep claiming you have but you haven't. Hulk was hit from behind. Thor gave no warning at all. He says that after he'd been hit. And why would Thor warn him before? He needed it to surprise him so he'd be knocked out. Alerting Hulk would be stupid. Never said he's omniscient. Not sure where you get all this from.
Aha! So you admit looking Thor in the face would be a fair attack. Therefore HLTBB is a fair win like I've been telling you this whole time. Hallelujah case closed.
You told me not to use real life examples then used it yourself. It's 1 rule for you and another for me.
I wasn't making fun of your name itself I was saying you've said so many hypercritical things that you should be call King Hypocrite. Unlike you I don't resort to personal insults.
"I've slaughtered the claim that I'm being a hypocrite". LMAO.
I didn't say anything about Thor being KO'd in my last reply.

2. "does it even look like he's KO'ed in the scan?" Yes, yes he does. He'd taken a severe beating and was left on the ground not moving.
Perhaps you should be called Captain Reflection instead. Not even Obi-Wan could deflect that.

3. Thor doesn't care about trying to get the fairest win to appease the fanboys he just needs to win, even if it's a cheap shot.
HLTBB is far from a cheap shot because Thor was literally facing Hulk and had been fighting him. Funny how you ignore the fact that Thor actually cheap shotted Hulk a few panels earlier but if it's Hulk it must be wrong. He struck him with lightening (unprovoked) and then attacks him. Don't tell me Thor is so stupid that he didn't think Hulk would fight back.
Again you lie. The Author explained that Hulk got stronger and overpowered Thor. You use him when it supports your bias but as soon as I prove he supports Hulk suddenly he's no longer valid. You are such a hypocrite.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 14 d
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Thor 1: that's because I have you're just in denial. Look at this scan
tell me how it wasn't coming from the front and he did say it before, the only reason it looks like he said it at the same time is because of the way comics are drawn, why else would he have said it to an unconscious person? Thor ain't one to talk to himself. He'd warm him because he has warrior honor which has gotten him into messes before because honor is more important to him than winning which is why he never instantly GodBlasts an enemy despite how easy that would be. It's called being honorable, not stupid. By your logic fighting an enemy in single combat rather than sending a GodBlast in the direction of the enemy's home planet is now stupid. Any proof "it had to be a surprise" or did you just make stuff up on the fly again? You constantly act like Thor is always expecting all possible attacks both with this comic and with Avengers Assemble #4. That's not why it doesn't count...but okay. Still not seeing am example of me using RLL, if you want to go down this route I can claim you were one of the Twitter Reylos attacking Abrams and Adam Driver (I don't think you were this is just example)
If all you have are claims but no evidence then get lost, I don't have time right now to debate idiots who make empty claims with no evidence. When have I used "personal" insults? Unlike you I've never had to say "you wonder why nobody likes you"
You gave me nothing to rip apart so...

So you concede that he wasn't KO'd?
2: is that why he has a hand over his face? People who are knocked out (even comic book characters) don't do that. How am I reflecting when it's about you? You're reflecting by claiming I'm reflecting. I call hypocrisy on the guy claiming I'm hypocritical. ENOUGH WITH THE NICKNAMES! You claim you're 21 but you act like you're 5. Sorry for saying that but you leave me with no choice. Also Obi Wan doesn't practice Shien, he uses Soresu for laser deflection.

3: so are we going to forget about his warrior honor? Another addition to the long list of times you've shown you don't know Thor despite your lie that you do. I said "by your logic" it would have been, I don't think it's a cheapshot. Funny enough that you call me bias yet put so much emphasis on an attention grabbing tap that did absolutely nothing, tell me how he could have gotten his attention better when there was explosions and people screaming everywhere. After Thor tapped him he said "again I say surrender" implying he tried to get his attention through words but since a Hulk couldn't hear him over the fight, he had to tap him. Ask yourself: if Thor is so powerful why didn't he do more damage with the lightning? Also unreliable "IN UNIVERSE" narrator. Thor only attacks him once Hulk throws a wrecking ball at him and calls him a lady, beforehand Thor was asking Hulk to surrender. How am I lying!?!? I can give you a screenshot where he says that. You're the one lying, he did not say Hulk "overpowered" anything, he said and I quote here "He is stunned for a second and Hulk takes advantage of that and bashes him in the face a few times" where does that imply he "overpowered" anything? Another assumption to your ever growing list of assumptions. I've already explained why my example was different so shut up thinking I'm a hypocrite just because I remind you he's not an authority on a 70 year old character and tell you we can counterbalance that with Jason Aaron. Would you like to prove that he has control over a 60+ year old rivalry? The only reason you count his opinion is because you agree with it, had he have said Thor was stronger then you'd dismiss him just like you've dismissed Nick Gillard. Also don't act all innocent and pure because you have completely ignored a bunch of stuff he said which I've already shown you. Where did I say "he was unreliable" or did you just make that up?
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Drmanhattan42 7 mo 3 d
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Hulk Yes I've think I've seen this movie or was in middle of watching it..I watched most dc animated movies they are excellent.. marvel animated not as good but still entertaining..
windshadow
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Thor ??? That is animation. This is comics ******
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 6 d
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Hulk You didn't need to comment that. We can see who voted on the side
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 10 d
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Hulk This is what happens when you cross the Hulk
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Dark_Wing
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Thor Do you seriously think Thor will just stand there and let that happen?Remember that only worked because Thor had never have had someone grab his hammer to try to hit him with it and he underestimated him because he didn't know he could get stronger at will meaning if Hulk tried to put him in a bare hug or punched him Thor would have been able to get right back up and continued the fight, there is no evidence to suggest that Hulk would have been 💯 guaranteed to have won had Hulk have not surprise attacked him. This is modern Thor (who has decades of experience on that Thor) he'll be ready for Hulk to try that and won't underestimate him again. Hulk didn't do that to humiliate him, he did out of desperation to escape unless you can prove otherwise. And didn't the writer disprove of that notion?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 5 d
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Hulk No one lets themselves get hit they juts do. You think Hulk just lets himself get hit?
You make a lot of assumptions to justify this loss but you just don't know. And your telling me I have no evidence. Bare in mind it was Thor that surprise attacked Hulk actually so your actually helping Hulk's case why he'd win next time.
Hulk did do it to humiliate him because he claimed he was better than the strongest one there was. Hulk had to put him in his place by using his own weapon against him. No better way. The writer has yet to disprove me so no.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 5 d
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Thor Unless they're not expecting it. Hulk was out skilled, he didn't let himself be hit, he payed the price for not having any skills. Which is more believable A: Batman outperforming a thug with a beautiful sequence of H2H combat or that thug grabbing his arm while it's holding a Batarang, forcing the hand back, and slitting the Bruce's throat with it while he stands there like an idiot and just lets it happen? I don't know why you still think this isn't PIS when the AUTHOR himself basically admitted that.
You have no examples of me "making assumptions" unless you have some leave it alone. How did Thor surprise attack Hulk? And how am I helping Hulk's case by and showing that he will win next time when the only reason Hulk won thst was because of PIS and circumstance? You also make a lot of assumptions about this battle and I have examples if you need them so don't even think about accusing me of "reflecting!"
You have absolutely no evidence to suggest that he just did it to humiliate him and sources suggest otherwise that it was a desperation effort and he used the weapon because it was literally sitting three inches from his face.
Fine I'll repeat myself: the Author said "it has no direct consequence on the current Hulk or Thor stuff" and he also said it only happened to him that one time because he wasn't expecting it meaning that Thor would now be expecting it if the modern versions of them were to fight it out and that same paragraph has him saying Hulk only won because it was a Hulk comic and because the "PLOT" needed him to escape. I can still link thou the interview if need be.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 5 d
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Hulk Actually Thor starts the fight by attacking Hulk first unprovoked (as usual) with a lightening strike. Thor paid the price in challenging someone who's stronger than him by getting beaten up.
Batman and a common thug is VERY different to Thor and Hulk. If it was Deathstroke then it makes more sense.
When asked who is stronger the author said Hulk is. He even says he loves Thor and has nothing against him. He certainly didn't call his own comic PIS.
I call you out on you assumptions almost every time. I'll try to remind you more often then.
Thor struck Hulk with lightening first (which contradicts your point that Thor just used brute strength). Not everything that doesn't go your way PIS mate.
Hulk was not able to turn the fight around given his disadvantage, he beat Thor with his own weapon. Tell me how Hulk could have humiliated Thor better? Stop pretending sources or whatever back you when they don't.
You mean this interview; https://www.newsarama.com/4883-hulk-drops-the-hammer-on-thor-writer-rebuts-fan-outrage.html? I'm way ahead of you mate
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Drmanhattan42 7 mo 21 d
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Hulk It would be a close fight,but if Hulk knew how to fight,hulk would take it...out of curiosity,what year was that comic,name etc..he was able to lift the hammer,cool
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 7 mo 21 d
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Hulk Hulk may not be as skilled but it doesn't matter as Hulk was stronger.
The comic's called Hulk Let The Battle Begin 2010. Hulk wasn't lifting the hammer he was using Thor's arm.
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Drmanhattan42 7 mo 19 d
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Hulk Ohok.. I see.. yeah I can see hulk winning also cause rage can mean alot in a fight and make you stronger and more durable as I had experienced it before..Thor probably takes it half of the time and hulk takes it half..idk man,I like hulk better, always been my favorite but when I've read tons of info ,comics Etc my votes on him has changed here and there..thanks for responding back
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 7 mo 10 d
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Thor @Tyr: most of what you said here I've already answered here https://www.superherodb.com/hulk-vs-team-thor/90-425634/ so wrote your rebuttal there, not here. I'm only coming back here to prove that I'm not a coward who runs away from debates that I'm so called "losing" and that even in my misery I'll keep going. But alas we have to keep this debate contained or else it's going nowhere. Also if you don't keep it contained there and keep alternating between these two pages all we will be doing is repeating the exact same stuff so more reason to keep it contained there.

Are you freaking kidding me?! that's not at all what happened, in fact Thor only lost because he was trying to talk Hulk down and had he have been out for blood or at least prepared for the most obvious attack to prepare for the outcome would have been very different.
You still completely ignore that he said he said Hulk won simply because it was his comic not because he was superior or anything. Which was what I was referring to when I said that he admitted it was PIS.
Ignore the variables and answer the question: which of those examples makes more sense between those two Batman situations?
Oh you mean that very tiny lightning bolt that did absolutely nothing? He merely did that to get his attention and once Hulk knew the fight was going he then limited himself to blunt force. Tell me when you get the brain capacity needed to read a comment through non-bias non-fact denying lenses and realize that's not the case. I've already told you why it is and I'm not gonna repeat myself I'm gonna leave you in your palace in ignorance. Since you keep ignoring my pretty decent reasoning for why I say that I think it's time that I officially send you this I have no problem explaining to you why are you this is PIS what least an in accurate representation of Thor if you're willing to listen open ears.
Now your flat out lying! Prove that he only did that to humiliate Thor because all I see are claims without evidence. A better way for him to humiliate Thor would have been for him to trap him in a bearhug (which has has done to other enemies) and put a hand on Thor's throat forcing him to either suffocate or call down lightning to free himself, given that Thor's not an idiot he'd likely call the lightning then Hulk could use Thor as a meatsheild and literally kill him with his own lightning which wouldn't be PIS as it's been done before and it would make a lot more sense.
Nice try only cherry picking what you wanted me to see but I've also been reading it long before you were even born. If you want to use his opinion then prove that he's a power scaler or At least he's written something for Thor.
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Tyrannus
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Hulk I wouldn't have seen you as a coward or assumed you lost if you'd already answered most of this on the other page. If anything you made it worse because I don't like repetition and having to answer on separate pages. We should just keep it on 1 page. Perhaps on my messages page?

Check again. It's Thor who hits him with an unprovoked lightening strike. How was hitting him repeatedly talking him down? Did you read the comic?
No the writer wasn't trying to impose his will on the comic. He even says he's a huge Thor fan. He says Hulk wins because (as I've been trying to tell you) Hulk gets stronger and overpowers him.
So you admit Thor attacked first unprovoked. It's you who looks at this with bias as I've shown in the other answer. I love both characters and for most of my life Thor was my favourite. I still get called a Thor fanboy and my comments defending Thor get downvoted. Thor's you're favourite now and you don't like Hulk so it makes sense you can't accept someone you don't like beating your idol. This was quite funny to read because you're literally describing yourself.
That's not a lie. Your exaggerating a little bit now. He didn't beat him with mjolnir only to humiliate him, it's just something he did.
I think I'm older than you so that's wrong again. Already answered this on the other page.
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Dusk_Pikachu 7 mo 1 d
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 7 mo 1 d
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Hulk @Dusk_Pikachu So why'd you vote Thor? Also that exact picture was already posted in my original reply.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 24 d
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Thor Then why do you like to claim that I've lost debates just because I haven't replied? I've answered on that page aswell, I'm only replying here because you didn't reply there and on your profile page.
He told Hulk to surrender, then only then he put him down and once he did he tried to show Hulk mercy which backfired. That's how he was trying to talk him down. 'Tis thou who haven't read the comic.
A tap that did absolutely nothing that he only did to get his attention. I'm not sure why you keep focusing on that besides complete bias against Thor. Wow are you now reflecting just because you've started to lose? I thought I was the one who was reflecting around here (I wasn't, I was just exposing a hypocrite when exposing was due). Prove that I'm looking at this through bias lenses when I don't dismiss the creator of a verse's statements just because I disagree with them in favor of some person who's never written for the character and I don't use plot introduced stupidity to back my claims nor do I assume that beating someone up makes you a better person than the person you beat up! Already answered that claim on the other page. Oh, and I don't downplay everything I can't disprove with anti feats like you do and I do have examples of you doing that before you play innocent, if I did then I'd bring up all the people who scale lightyears beneath Thor and have done crap to Hulk then mention that Thor scales lightyears above them.
Already answered the claim that you love Thor on both your profile page and the other page and I'm not repeating myself. When have you been called a Thor fanboy? I honestly want to have a little chat with those people. Imagine having to reflect just because you're unable to contest the truth. If I was such a tho fanboy then is that why I've voted numerous characters over him? And if I'm supposedly such a Hulk hater then why have I voted him over numerous characters? The only reason I voted Thor here is because of two words: power scaling. Would you like to prove that I'm bias just because I debunked your out of context claims? I find it very offensive that you reach into your well of desperation and claim Thor's my idol because I'm Christian and I can tell you that the god I worship is not a lightning powered Viking from Marvel Comics. What is with you and the personal attacks? It's almost like I'm not losing the debate like you randomly claim I do.

Actually you flat out said and I quote here "Hulk did do it to humiliate him because he claimed he was better than the strongest one there was" so quit claiming you're not/I'm lying when you actually are.
Okay, I've vowed to never ask this but, how old are you then and when's your birthday? And I've answered back.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 6 mo 23 d
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Hulk When have I claimed you lost by not replying? There's no notifications so I don't always know when you've responded.
He told Hulk to surrender AFTER he attacked. It was after Thor made an incorrect statement that made Hulk beat him down disproving that statement. Even the writer disagrees with everything you said.
You brought the unprovoked lightening attack up when you claimed Thor only used brute strength. He didn't. It sounds like you want to dismiss it because it makes Thor look bad.
You don't like it when I say your losing but you do the same to me. I've never seen someone reflect a reflection. I've done nothing hypercritical.
You did dismiss the writer because you refuse to accept HLTBB as a legit win. It would be PIS if that didn't happen. Your so focused on Thor that you forget Hulk and why he wins.
I know @Mxy used to do so and downvote my Thor comments. I believe this was on the overrated heroes forum. I defended Thor and that happened. There are more. Your so hell bent on believing I hate Thor because it makes it easier to justify why I back Hulk but the fact of the matter is (like the writer of HLTBB) I love both but know Hulk gets stronger and wins. You don't have to vote for Thor every single time to be a fanboy. You admitted you don't like Hulk.
Even with power scaling Hulk wins. Hulk's stories tend to be more grounded than Thor's but he's always shown he's strong enough when needed. You like to pretend you've debunked me but I've yet to see it. Don't be so quick to claim so.
Your idol doesn't have to be a god. Bare in mind you actually called Hulk my God and savoir in https://www.superherodb.com/hulk-vs-team-thor/90-425634/. Don't be a hypocrite (again).
I didn't deny that. Still not lying.
I'm 21. 17/06/1998
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Breaker
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Tyrannus
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orioncrush 9 mo 6 d
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Hulk Thor declares in Fear Itself that he couldn't beat the Hulk and he's always known it.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 26 d
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Thor Did you even read that comic? He beats an amped Hulk while exhausted and injured in the comic and was only being sarcastic when he said that. Look at my debate with Tyrannus down below ⬇️ for more on this.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 26 d
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Hulk Well actually he only removes Hulk because when he lands again he continues his rampage. Thor was exhausted and injured because he was fighting and falls afterwards.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 26 d
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Thor Nul the amped Hulk was also knocked out https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6d8e9e7f0ee061596597210a414dd578. Thor only fell unconscious due to not only being beaten down by the Serpent https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-51f7b462c48fa5e61a05ba7689522231 (he's visibly panting afterward proving he's tired) and a prolonged 2v1 brawl with an amped Hulk and amped Thing (who effortlessly bodied Red Hulk who is relative to green Hulk, it wasn't even a fight Thing just toyed with Red Hulk). If it was a fair 1v1 between Nul and Thor, Thor may have won for all we know.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 26 d
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Hulk Not talking about the Thing. We don't know what would happen still because Hulk was fine. Your assuming victory.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 24 d
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Thor I only brought up the Thing because he was also helping injure and exhaust Hulk. Did you not see the scan? Thor has knocked him out ! Were you not paying attention to the comic? I'm saying victory because at bare minimum Thor contended with two vastly above Hulk level combats while at a massive disadvantage and at most prevailed over both of them which I've proven in that scan. Also why did you vote Thor over Nul here https://www.superherodb.com/thor-vs-angrir-breaker-of-souls-nul-breaker-of-worlds/90-406106/?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 23 d
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Hulk Thing wasn't exhausting Hulk. Hulk actually continue his rampage in the next issue so that's wrong. He wasn't disadvantages other than being outnumbered. I voted that way because |I genuinely thought that at the time. After reading into it some more I found it was just BFR.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 23 d
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Thor Are you not paying attention? Angrir was helping Hulk and exhausting/injuring Thor as he was also very formidable and above baseline Savage Hulk which I've proven. Just because he woke up a few seconds later doesn't mean he was not KOed, by that logic no hero is ever KOed because they just wake up an issue later like nothing ever happened. Now please debunk my scan of Hulk being KOed and prove that he wasn't. Did you not see my scan above? He was also injured and exhausted pre battle by an encounter with Cul (an Odin level being) aswell as being outnumbered like you said. And I've literally just debunked the notion that it was just BFR.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 23 d
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Hulk I think there's been a misunderstanding. You said "I only brought up the Thing because he was also helping injure and exhaust Hulk" when I think you meant Thor. In the end it was you who needed to pay attention.
Hulk wasn't shown to be defeated however as he kept going when he landed. Sure he may have been stunned but if we're going to go by that logic then Hulk's got far more wins.
You said nothing on it being BFR. Had it been a cage match Thor would have lost.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 21 d
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Thor That's what we call a typo; it happens to even the best debaters (which I'm not). Like I said he woke up shortly before he landed. If it was a cage match Thor wouldn't have been injured pre battle and forced to fight a 2v1 in that state so yes he may have won.
For the last time! The. Scan. I. Posted. Shows. Hulk. KOed. If you want even more proof that he was knocked out Matt Fraction put a blacked out speech bubble next to Nul's mouth which is basically the closest you can get to showing that he was KOed without directly saying un the narration that he was.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 12 d
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Hulk Try paying attension then next time instead of telling that to others. Hulk wasn't knocked out. He was fine and kept fighting after he landed with Dracula.
Stop looking for excuses for Thor. He was fine going into battle with Hulk. Thor couldn't defeat savage Hulk you really think he was going to beat a buffed Hulk now?
The scan showed Hulk briefly stunned and a some panels to make Thor look good to boost your ego. If you want to go down the round of stunning counts as wins then Hulk has way more wins.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 12 d
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Thor You've yet to prove that he wasn't knocked out while I have provided evidence that he was. Like I've said several times already, just because he woke up a few seconds later doesn't mean he was not KOed, by that logic no hero is ever KOed because they just wake up an issue later like nothing ever happened. Please quit forcing me to repeat myself because you can't except facts.

Wow did you just assume something with no actual evidence? And you get mad at me for assuming. Prove that he was just fine with actual evidence! Again remember how much Thor restrains himself against one of his closet friends.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 11 d
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Hulk Your yet to prove that Hulk was KO'd given he keeps fighting when he lands. At best he was merely stunned. Thor has struggled against savage Hulk, you really think Thor can defeat an amped Thing and Hulk? By your logic this should be PIS but I suppose it's not if it favours you doesn't it?

When did I assume? When? Your desperate now
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 11 d
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Thor Again, the author put a blacked out speech bubble next to Nul's mouth which is basically the closest you can get to showing that he was KOed without directly saying he was in the narration. No it's no PIS because unlike WM, Thor has several examples of clearly being stronger than Hulk and I've already told you why he struggles against Savage Hulk. Yes I do think he could if he goes all out and uses his skill and lightning (like he did in the comic).

You assume that he was just fine despite the fact that I just proved that he wasn't. You have absolutely no evidence to suggest that he was not injured pre battle. And now you're assuming I'm desperate with absolutely no proof whatsoever.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 11 d
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Hulk If he had a speech bubble at all it means he must have been stunned. Your assuming. It's pretty much accepted that this was just BFR. You can't seem to accept anything that doesn't go Thor's way. Even the Immortal Hulk issue you had to water it down as much as possible.

I've already disproved that Thor isn't stronger. Mighty Thor #385 Thor begins to lose without mjolnir. When they arm wrestle savage Hulk was able to match Thor (Hulk only gets stronger in fights so would eventually surpass Thor). Let The Battle Begin Hulk overpowers and beats Thor (and the Wrecking Crew). I'm sure your just going to pretend that didn't happen though. Thor fights to win and still can't.

Thor wasn't that bad. Your making it out like Thor tired when he fought Hulk and Thing. If so that shows how weak Thor is.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 11 d
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Thor I just love how you claim that but you do realize that there's a lot of things that didn't go his way that I haven't complained about like, I can make a list if you want. How do I lowball Immortal Hulk?

I'll give you that one example in Thor #385. How exactly do you overpower someone who isn't fighting back? I've proven that bty. Prove that Thor was going all out in Defenders! I was talking about there other feats outside of there encounters with each other. Thor does not fight to win he fights to stop Hulk.

You're calling Thor surviving a blast from an Odin level being who was trying to kill him an "example of how weak Thor is?" The fact that Thor survived that without being KOed is what you should be focused on. And you wonder why I said you didn't know him.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 11 d
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Hulk Don't act like you've been holding back. You've been making Hulk sounds as bad as possible while bigging up Thor whenever you can. I never said you lowball Immortal Hulk I said you watered down Thor's loss in the Immortal Hulk as much as possible.

No you haven't. Thor wasn't frozen you know. It's hypercritical that it's OK when Thor hits Hulk but when Hulk hits Thor, Thor's apparently not doing anything and it must be PIS. Don't claim you've proven it. Given that Thor can't win against Hulk that should prove Thor wasn't holding back. You stop Hulk by beating him. Thor can't.

You can pretend all you want to make you feel better but I know Thor very well considering he's one of my favourites. At least I don't call him a baby.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 11 d
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Thor I can't remember where I read it but I'm pretty sure an empty speech bubble means you're unconscious. I never said I've been holding back now did I? Would you like to prove that Immortal Hulk did beat prime Thor because prime Thor disappeared way back in 2014 when they gave Jane the hammer and he was replaced with a jobber who can't even survive in the cold or beat characters much weaker than him.

Are we forgetting the author said Thor was surprised and dazed which was why he didn't fight back? See below👇. Remember these superhero fights aren't bar brawls, there almost like dances between two highly experienced combatants meaning even a moment of distraction could mean what happened there. If you're referring to that comic then remember that there's a big difference between holding on to your weapon and letting yourself be hit and actually being outperformed and laid down by a much more skilled adversary. You yourself have asked why doesn't Thor just outperform Hulk and this comic is where he does just that. If you're referring to a different comic then prove that Hulk just let himself get hit. How many times am I gonna have to show you the examples of Thor beating Hulk or at least clearly having that ability before you except them? Stan Lee specifically made Defenders #7 to show that Thor and Hulk are still equals even when Hulk is getting stronger by the second. And I've already proven that he can both with showings against Hulk and other feats where Thor didn't use less than a third of his strength that he can beat the Hulk.

I never said he was a baby! I said what he did in one of the comics was a baby's "FIRST MISTAKE!" and I said in my last comment "you wonder why I 'SAID' (in past tense) you didn't know him" because you literally just said he was weak for not dying from an attack from an ODIN LEVEL BEING!
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 10 d
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Hulk Given Hulk was fine when he landed and most people say it's BFR then I'd say Hulk wasn't truly defeated. Never said Thor was at his strongest when he fought Immortal Hulk but he wasn't that bad either. Anytime things don't Thor's way you try and justify it as much as possible. I could do the same for Hulk.

Thor became dazed AFTER getting hit. You can't dismiss every fight that doesn't go perfectly Thor's way. Things weren't going Hulk's way when Thor was hitting him. Thor couldn't outperform Hulk because Hulk was the stronger opponent. Simple as. You choose examples that don't count or don't work. I know what Stan Lee meant which is why the vast majority of their fights end up inconclusive. However when push comes to shove, Hulk will win. When has Thor won while using a third of his strength?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 5 d
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Thor I can't find where I read that the empty bubble meant you were unconscious so until I find it I'll give the benefit of the doubt to you. If he "wasn't that bad" then is base Thor now unable to survive in the cold while only being Captain Marvel level in terms of speed and strength? I never said Thor would beat IH (he wouldn't in fact IH will ragdoll him with mid difficulty) How do I try to justify it? All I'm doing is quoting exactly what happened in the comic! Don't call using context "justifying Thor's loss" and you already do the same for the Hulk. If you want to just take scans out of context then here I guess is now hyperversal, thy argument is now invalid. The point is don't take stuff out of context or else we can use that against you.

He was visibly surprised once Hulk grabbed his arm in that scan, the author even confirm this which is why he didn't fight back and then became dazed when Hulk hit him. Try fighting someone literally the same second you were surprise attacked by them, it ain't easy. I'm not dismissing them, I'm literally just quoting what actually happened unexaggerated! Yes he can because "COMBAT SKILL" and "STRENGTH" are completely disconnected so no just because he happens to be slightly stronger doesn't mean he's immune to being outskilled. By your logic is Doomsday more skilled than Cassandra Cain because he's much stronger than her? How do I choose examples that don't count? You wish that were the case but it's not. Quit lying you yourself make the lamest reason for those examples to not count which I've proven at least my reasoning is literally exactly what happened in the comic. Did you know Thor never uses even than a third of his power on Earth even against mortals trying to kill him and even more against his friends. We are getting off topic, when I mentioned that I was referring to Thor's OTHER feats against enemies who are as powerful if not more powerful than Hulk, I never said Thor won while only using a third of his strength p, you're making that. Which is more believable A: Batman outperforming a thug with a beautiful sequence of H2H combat or that thug grabbing his arm while it's holding a Batarang, forcing the hand back, and slitting the Bat's throat with it while he stands there like an idiot and just lets it happen? I wasn't referring to when he said Thor was stronger (which is true), I was referring to when he said they were equals even when Hulk was getting stronger which the comic here proves meaning that yes Hulk was getting stronger by the second during there armwrestle.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 5 d
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Hulk I actually read the comic again and literally on the very same page Hulk does speak. You either lied or just cherry picked that one panel. Interesting
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Thor had the Avengers to make up for any excuses. The comic doesn't talk about how Thor wasn't at full power. I've never seen you admit to Thor's loss without trying to water it down as much as possible. I don't do the same for Hulk. Stop reflecting.

He became dazed after he was hit not before like you implied. Your describing why Hulk would wins. He moves too fast and gets stronger.
Never said Doomsday is suddenly more skilled than Cass. Don't jump the gun. What I'm saying is that it doesn't help much against Hulk because he becomes too strong for that to matter. Ask Abomination, Red Hulk and even Thor.
Lol name an example that I haven't debunked then and stop getting upset when I call you out on your faulty logic.
Hulk is clearly not seen as just a mortal. Hulk is described as a godlike being in Incredible Hulk #440 and Immortal Hulk #7. There have been more examples but the point being Hulk is no mere mortal anymore.
The comic did not prove that Hulk was getting stronger by the second in that arm wrestle. Until you show proof it's just more wishful thinking.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 13 d
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Thor .
DRAH
DRAH 9 mo 15 d
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Thor Stan Lee specifically created Thor to be more powerful than the Hulk, period.

Thor can call upon resources and capabilities that the Hulk simply cannot. Are there circumstances under which the Hulk may occasionally prevail? Yes, but the majority of the time, Thor is eventually going to win.

Thor could remain out of the Hulk's reach by simply flying. From a safe distance, he could summon as many successive lightning strikes as necessary on the Hulk to soften him up, and then wade in eventually and finish him off. Using Mjolnir, Thor could end the battle by opening an interdimensional portal and throwing the Hulk through it.

In my opinion, and it is my OPINION only, the Hulk is physically more durable than Thor, and he has the potential to surpass Thor in terms of raw brute strength. Unfortunately for the Hulk, Thor doesn't have to rely solely on brute strength and physical durability in order to determine the outcome of a battle.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 14 d
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Hulk Things change since the creator's intention. Hulk has beaten Thor since.
Calling upon resources doesn't mean Thor wins as he has tanked them all.
Thor has tried this before and it doesn't work. Hulk can jump to you or thunder clap. In taking Hulk to another dimension Hulk knock Thor out.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 13 d
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Hulk Thor has always had more powers but more powers doesn't mean you can win.
Hulk wouldn't just stand there and allow himself to get stuck by lightening. Thor can send Hulk away but that's not really beating him.
Dr
Drmanhattan42 7 mo 3 d
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Hulk Yes Hulk can jump like almost like flying so its like hulk of it's a quick jump he would be able to jump fast enough to grab Thor ...so I mean this is a very close fi only because talk doesn't have combat skills like Thor... I think the war is not as durable as the Hulk and and frankly I think Hulk is stronger depending how long does La fight last I mean if he gets pissed off quick it could be you know devastated to Thor...
booyah
booyah 9 mo 16 d
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Thor Very close fight. Thor only wins because he has mjolinr
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 22 d
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Thor Changing my vote back to Thor. His feats, scaling, stats, storylines, and overall character is so much better and now that I've officially proven it to Breaker I think I've earned the right to vote for my #1 favorite character in all of fiction once again. Unless Thor unless Thor holds back 💯 precent then he's winning this solidly god stomping in the early fight, winning with mid difficulty in the mid fight, and the late fight (where Thor's at his most tired while Hulk is just starting to get angrier) then Hulk would start getting the upper hand on him.
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Breaker
Breaker 9 mo 22 d
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Hulk ok boomer
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 18 d
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Hulk Those very same things can be said about Hulk. Hulk gets stronger instantly so the late fight makes Thor's chances very small assuming he's still alive.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 18 d
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Thor Which things can be said about Hulk?

Who downvoted my comment?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 18 d
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Hulk "His feats, scaling, stats, storylines, and overall character"
I downvoted because I disagreed.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 18 d
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Thor That's not why downvoting exists...
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 18 d
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Hulk Yes it is although to be honest I only tend to downvote when people swear or start unnecessarily attacking someone. I've removed my downvote
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 18 d
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Thor Thank you my friend
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Hitchiker 9 mo 23 d
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Thor First it doesn't matter how strong Hulk is or gets he cannot lift Mjolnir. Strength is based on physics and magic defies physics that's why it's called MAGIC! If it is simply a brawl it could go either way but the longer it last the more it tips in Hulks favor until he DOES overpower Odinson. If Thor utilizes his powers though like using winds/ a tornado to sweep him into the air and/or goes all out landing a godblast or takes/knocks Hulk into space the fight is over.
MakeMineMarvel
MakeMineMarvel 11 mo 3 d
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Thor If Hulk is able to lift the hammer, then Thor is in big trouble, If not, then Thor has the edge.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 11 mo 3 d
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Thor Hulk can lift the hammer, it was shown, look below
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 12 d
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Thor @EmptyHand: already debunked that.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 10 d
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Hulk Hulk won
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 11 mo 3 d
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Thor
If this happened, how is Mjølnir gonna hurt hulk?
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 11 mo 3 d
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Thor 1: he didn't lift it, merely caught Thor's hand, Thor was lifting it, Hulk just guided his arm. And 2: Hulk once said he was afraid of Mjolnir (I can't find the scan sorry) and it nearly killed him with one swing here https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-172adacc0eea4bbd5761b8f14de47bf5-c
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 18 d
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Hulk And yet he still uses it against Thor
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 18 d
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Thor Yuh, only about twice in his 70 years publication.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 18 d
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Hulk And yet Thor still hasn't been able to beat Hulk properly with it
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 18 d
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Thor I'm not sure how many times I'm gonna need to debunk that claim but 1: he nearly killed Hulk with one hit (see scan above) and he's destroyed an amped Hulk in Fear Itself. He totally can destroy Hulk if he wanted to which I've proven on several different pages but he doesn't because he prefers to play with the Hulk because he doesn't face people as strong as him very often and those he does he has to fight them when the stakes are very high meaning he can't fully enjoy the fight like he wants to. Besides do you seriously still think Thor can't beat Hulk when he's been able to destroy enemies who are just as powerful or even more powerful than the Hulk?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 18 d
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Hulk The scan shows Hulk nearly killing Thor. That wasn't proper Hulk in Fear Itself so I don't count it. I've debunked any claims that Thor could best Hulk in combat, it's Hulk who's superior. He doesn't play with Hulk he fights to win while Hulk fights to get away.
SS tends to be fairly even to Thor yet Hulk>Armageddon>SS=Thor.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 18 d
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Thor How was the scan of Thor nearly killing the Hulk not proper? Do you not understand basic powerscaling? Nul Hulk was proven to be above normal Hulk twice https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3dd1037821b10be7d14d12374892a7ac and https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c96d66f868331cfc4d95d180478d5c92 and the Thing was also amped to a point where he bodied Red Hulk (who is constantly comparable to Hulk) meaning that an injured Thor outperformed two above Hulk level characters. It really doesn't matter thst Hulk wasn't himself, what maters is that he was much stronger than ever and Thor outperformed him. Now explain why him "not being a proper Hulk" even matters.

"I've debunked that"

Oh, I don't think so. Here is where Thor has proven a few times that he is holding back DURING fights with the Hulk https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-45303c5c1efdbb099a10cb20918d8fed he says "I meant not to slay him" implying he forgot to hold back like he always dose, here https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6d50c23e755d58c05a7c513203563cc7 they match each other's strength for an hour, but how can you match the strength of someone who is constantly getting stronger? By holding back less and less each passing second, and here https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e98f9c40e6d83918c7f66ee282234818 where it takes the combine efforts of both Namor (who consistently fights on par with Hulk and has beaten him a couple times) and Hulk just to get his hammer away from him, or in Breaking Into Comics where he talked about how he regrets nearly killing the Hulk after a temper loss. If Hulk was fighting to get away then why Why has Hulk talked about "crushing" Thor on at least two occasions https://i.ibb.co/DCj16zd/RCO017.jpg and https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f952ec9f04f2b81b0557af70dfdcb4cd? What makes Hulk holding back even less believable is they he's admitted to being afraid of Thor twice like I've said 1: https://ibb.co/Sm6N5V8 and 2: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-cbe25efa10f82e4791fea4aa2fa88922; why would he hold back against someone he's afraid of? Boom Thor is holding back as Hulk goes all out. Now when did you debunk any claims that Thor beats Hulk? I'd honestly want to see that.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 17 d
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Hulk DO you understand powerscaling? I just gave you an example. Hulk>Armageddon>SS=Thor.
I hear that but feats show otherwise. Thor struggles against savage Hulk but somehow defeated amped Thing and Hulk?

I know Thor holds back. Cap said Thor holds back even in the face of defeat (I believe to avoid warriors madness). During that arm wrestle Hulk wasn't getting angrier. Hulk tends to destroy Namor so he can't really be compared. Thor in the past has fought with the Avengers against the Hulk and Hulk still didn't fall. I'm not sure why Hulk wanted to crush Thor in that scan as it sounds slightly out of character. It is an old scan. In the second scan Hulk jumps away proving my point.
Banner does hold Hulk back. It's been mentioned a few times but the best example I remember is before fighting Onslaught.

Hulk says he's afraid of the hammer once. The second time he just says he wants to fight Thor without it. He showed no fear.
I debunk your claims every time you make them.
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 17 d
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Thor How is Silver Surfer even to Thor?

Thor has defeated Silver Surfer when both of the heroes were bloodlusted. 'Silver Surfer (1997), #86'

Thor has dominated Surfer in a fight (Surfer held back but Thor was injured). 'The Mighty Thor (2011), #3'

With all of his power combined, Thor made Galactus run for his life after showing him what pain is (by just throwing Mjolnir). 'Thor (1966), #161'
Keep in mind poorly fed/starving Galactus was able to one-shot Silver Surfer.

I can bring more feats supporting my point if needed.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 17 d
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Hulk @Clint_Barton They're fights have been pretty even. However in that first comic only Thor was bloodlusted. SS wanted to help him and yet he fought evenly.
In the third comic Thor doesn't beat Galactus they just learn about his origin. Odin couldn't harm Galactus you think Thor can?
Breaker
Breaker 9 mo 17 d
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Hulk @Tyr me and clint did debate on discord hulk vs thor ,guess what I loses Because of my sportsmanship lmfao
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 17 d
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Thor "I just gave you an example. Hulk>Armageddon>SS=Thor."

I was referring to when you tried to debunk Thor beating an amped Hulk while injured and tired by saying "hE wAsn'T hImSelF" it just proves how easily Thor can beat a decently enraged Hulk if he wanted to. Also don't use that scaling because that was Worldbreaker Hulk and of you want to use that then we can also use Odin Force Thor.

"Thor struggles against savage Hulk but somehow defeated amped Thing and Hulk?"

Again only when he's playing with him, he's proven at least five times to be stronger then him and seven times to be able to one shot him.

"During that arm wrestle Hulk wasn't getting angrier"

You have any proof of that?

"Hulk tends to destroy Namor so he can't really be compared"

Yuh, but Namor always gives him a good fight and has even beaten him twice in the classic comics.

"Thor in the past has fought with the Avengers against the Hulk and Hulk still didn't fall."

If you're referring to Hulk Smash Avengers then remember the only reason the Hulk broke free was because Giant Man let go to save Wasp which in return startled Thor allowing the Hulk to slip by and get a cheap shot off, later on in that same comic he was matched by Ironman which is very impressive (sarcasm) when you remember that Thor three shotted Ironman in Thor #3 by J Micheal Straczynski.

"I'm not sure why Hulk wanted to crush Thor in that scan as it sounds slightly out of character"

He wanted to be stronger than him like he always has been. And how is it out of character?

"In the second scan Hulk jumps away proving my point."

Yuh but first he says "Hulk fear no man. But Thor, God of Thunder" There, he said he's afraid of Thor a second time.

"Banner does hold Hulk back. It's been mentioned a few times but the best example I remember is before fighting Onslaught."

I'm well aware of this but Hulk doesn't hold back to the same extent as Thor who only uses a third of his power while on Earth and even less against friends.

"Hulk says he's afraid of the hammer once. The second time he just says he wants to fight Thor without it. He showed no fear."

Again "Hulk fear no man. But Thor, God of Thunder" implies he's scared of him.


"I debunk your claims every time you make them."

That was over 8 mouths ago, so plz acknowledge my improvement over that time.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 16 d
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Hulk I've already debunked that. Like I said Thor did beat that version of Hulk and yet he also struggles against savage Hulk.
You've yet to prove Thor "plays" with Hulk given that he can't defeat Hulk even when he wants to.
You have any proof Hulk WAS getting angrier. Hulk wasn't getting hurt or attacked during the arm wrestle.
Things have changed since classic times. Thor couldn't last without mjolnir back in the day.
Hulk has taken on the Avengers many times before with Thor and they always struggle.
Most of the time Hulk usually claims he just wants to be left alone. He's done so in many fights. Saying he wants to go out of his way to beat Thor isn't like him.
Hulk's never back down from a fight with Thor and as you've shown he actively wants to smash Thor.
I know Thor holds back but the thing is he holds back even when losing.
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 16 d
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Thor > They're fights have been pretty even.
Give issues.
> However in that first comic only Thor was bloodlusted. SS wanted to help him and yet he fought evenly.
Until Bill got out of there yeah, Surfer held back, but after Bill got out of battlefield, Surfer stopped holding back and still got humiliated.
> In the third comic Thor doesn't beat Galactus they just learn about his origin. Odin couldn't harm Galactus you think Thor can?
Did you even read? Thor was able to harm and make Galactus run for his life. That Galactus was poorly fed, but Galactues when he fought Odin was moderate-fed. And Poorly Fed Galactus oneshotted Surfer.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 16 d
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Hulk SS didn't get humiliated. He put up a good fight and beat him the first time round.
Show me scans of Galactus allegedly "running for his life" because when I checked that comic that never happened. Galactus was getting hungry when he beat Odin. It's the reason he leaves.
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 16 d
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Thor He only won when Bill was with him. After Bill got out of battlefield, Surfer challenged Thor and it literally took two panels to beat Surfer.
Here, Thor hurts Galactus: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FkDFn_bbVj8/VnpeXQzhlLI/AAAPr4/vtCmjUZY7GU/s1600-Ic42/RCO014.jpg
And Galactus goes away while saying "I must not die"(he also states he shall perish): https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oh13ASSw_Z4/VnpeYkHYT7I/AAAPr4/QP74nFgKcLs/s1600-Ic42/RCO019.jpg
Yeah, he was getting hungry because he was fighting against his match. But I don't know what is the point of bringing up that fight.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 16 d
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Thor "You've yet to prove Thor "plays" with Hulk given that he can't defeat Hulk even when he wants to."

You still have yet to provide an example of Thor being unable to beat Hulk when he needs to. I freaking showed you proof that he holds back during fights with the Hulk, he's also stated it in Hulk #440. Also if Thor was going all out then why does he use lighting and his other abilities so rarely if they're his most powerful assists? Almost like he is toying with him. And you've yet to debunk Thor nearly killing the Hulk with one hit so...

"You have any proof Hulk WAS getting angrier."

I'll quote directly from you "bEeFiNg Up iS wHo ThE hUlK Is, hE'lL aLwaYS gEt StroNgEr UntIlE hE bEaTs WhoEvEr hE's FigHtiNg"

"Hulk wasn't getting hurt or attacked during the arm wrestle."

Yes but he was unable to overpower Thor which should have been frustrating for him.

"Things have changed since classic times. Thor couldn't last without mjolnir back in the day."

He couldn't last without Mjolnir while on Earth and that was only because Odin made Thor into a human to teach him humility which you'd if you read Thor comic.

"Hulk has taken on the Avengers many times before with Thor and they always struggle."

Any examples?

"Most of the time Hulk usually claims he just wants to be left alone. He's done so in many fights. Saying he wants to go out of his way to beat Thor isn't like him."

And he's also said that he sometimes likes to fight; in planet Hulk he seemed to somewhat enjoy his time as a gladiator (if I'm remembering it correctly), I've seen him visibly excited to fight Thor (can't remember where tho), and in Heart of the Monster he wanted a Realm where he could fight forever. And he's also seemed pretty defensive over his title "strongest there is" especially in the classic comics. So yes him wanting to crush Thor for trying to take his title is perfectly in character for him.

"Hulk's never back down from a fight with Thor and as you've shown he actively wants to smash Thor."

Boom, now you admit he wants to beat Thor which proves my point even more.

"I know Thor holds back but the thing is he holds back even when losing."

Is that supposed to be bad now?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 16 d
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Thor "Like I said Thor did beat that version of Hulk and yet he also struggles against savage Hulk."

How many times am I gonna have to tell you this: it's because Thor doesn't want to murder his friend.

Times when Thor's clearly been stronger then Hulk:

1: In Journey Into Mystery #112 Thor, while unarmed after being knocked into a gass that weakened him, was able to match the Hulk's strength with his own despite being weakened.

2: Hulk's never been able to dent the Silver Surfer (even when he was weakened on Sakar), Thor did that to him in Thor (2011) #4 and that Silver Surfer was amped after Annihilation which makes this even more impressive.

3: Abomination, a creature who can fight on par with the Hulk and even exhausted him at one point was one hit KOed by the Mighty Thor.

4: In God of Thunder #23 by Jason Aaron UNWORTHY Thor one hit kills a monster stated to have the same strength as the Hulk.

5: when the Hulk was possessed by Thanos and told to kill the Avengers, he took Thor's arm and shoved his hammer into his face then preceded to fallow it up with a powerful punch and Thor took all this off guard, only being knocked out for like 3 minutes. Meanwhile when Thor lost his temper and went all out against the Hulk he nearly killed him with one mighty swing.

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Times when Thor's been able to one shot the Hulk:
1: in Indestructible Hulk Gods and Monsters Thor uses a lightning blast which knocks this armored Hulk out for 30 seconds and reverts him back into Banner. Thor himself was only knocked out because he had prior been fighting Frost Giants for an unknown amount of time in a realm with climate so extreme the Hulk needed a special suit just to survive in it! Proving Thor is again more durable than the Hulk.
2: in Breaking Into Comics the Marvel Way Thor nearly killed the Hulk with one hit
3: In Incredible Hulk Annual 2001 Thor one shots Hulk with the most casual lightning bolt (if you say this is a cheapshot cause you don't like it then keep in mind being hit off guard (which Hulk wasn't) doesn't change how durable you are.
4: Thor one shotted an amped version of the Thing who had effortlessly bodied Red Hulk, it wasn't even a fight, amped Thing literally toyed with Rulk who is constantly on the same level of speed and strength as the Green Hulk (even beaten him a few times) and Thor just one shotted him just by summoning his hammer back!
5: Thor casually one shotted Abomination (who can consistently go toe to toe with Hulk and beat him a few times in the classic comics) without putting much effort into it.
6: he stalmated Zues for several months proving his lightning is equal to Zues' and it was stated Zues had the power to fry Hulk with a single thought if he wanted to. If you want to downplay this by saying "hUlK dIdnT wAnT tO fIgHt ZuEs" then keep in mind not wanting to fight doesn't change how durable you are and the point still stands.
7: in God of Thunder #23 unworthy Thor one shots a monster stated to have the strength of the Hulk (you still haven't proven that he didn't have that strength).
8: Thor one shotted Namor who was at his full potential due to either being in the ocean or in a rainstorm TWICE! Keep in mind Namor is comparable to the a Hulk while outside of water so in it he would be stronger than the Hulk and Thor just one shotted him both times neither of which were with Mjolnir, just with his bare hands!

Can you please stop making me repeat myself?

Couple this with the evidence I've provided earlier and there isn't even a question. Now provide evidence and comic numbers with it that say Thor does go all out against the Hulk.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 14 d
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Hulk @Clint_Barton Thor only beat him because he was warrior madness. SS did technically beat Thor moments before.
None of those links worked.
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 14 d
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Thor @Tyrannus:
"Thor only beat him because he was warrior madness"
That's what Thor when he goes all out, what do you mean? And can you prove he had Warriors Madness?

"SS did technically beat Thor moments before."
With the help of Bill.

"None of those links worked."
Apparently, those stopped working for me too. Alright, I will give you pages:
Issue: https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-1966/Issue-161?id=7711
Page 14: Thor hurts Galactus with just throwing Mjonir
Pages 18 and 19: Thor makes Galactus run for his life with using his full potential.
Breaker
Breaker 9 mo 14 d
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Hulk 2 vs 1 ? lmfao so let's make it fair

Tyr vs Darkwing .Clint Vs breaker @Clint just wait when I post my all scans
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 14 d
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Thor @Breaker: I am debating Surfer vs Thor, it is a totally different topic.
Breaker
Breaker 9 mo 14 d
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Hulk Still Not fair u just can debate him on thor vs surfer on the page on here
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 14 d
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Hulk @Dark_Wing You only need to look at pretty much any of their fight to see Thor can't really beat Hulk when he needs to. Thor doesn't "play". That demeans Thor. When did Thor try and kill Hulk with one hit?
Except during the arm wrestle they weren't actually fighting. Getting frustrated isn't enough.
I know Thor turned back on earth. I literally just read War of the Realms not too long ago so stop pretending I haven't read any Thor comics just because your losing. How about reading a Hulk comic? It might help.
Hulk beat pretty much everyone in Marvel during in Incredible Hulk #300 1962. Another I remember is Why must the Hulk Die story.
Far more often Hulk just says he just wants to be left alone and will even leave a winning fight so saying he wanted to smash Thor was out of character. I guessing he just got frustrated with Thor.
I haven't proven you right in anything. Just because Hulk doesn't back down doesn't mean he wants it.
If Thor holds back even when losing that means you can't just say Thor wins because if he stops holding back he wins. That isn't Thor. That's warrior madness (even then Hulk still had control).
Just because Thor doesn't want to hurt Hulk (which doesn't make sense since fighting him in the first place hurts him) doesn't explain how he sent amped Hulk to space but can't do the same with savage Hulk.
1. The fight was too inconclusive to say anything.
2. Hulk is stronger than SS it's just that SS can turn Hulk back to Banner. Without that SS will lose as he did so against Bannerless Hulk.
3. Hulk has also been able to dominate Abomination since their first encounter.
4. And yet without Mjolnir Hulk has been shown as stronger.
5. Prove Thor nearly killed Hulk with one swing.

1. Hulk was also fighting the Frost Giants. Hulk during that time period wore his armour all the time. Hulk's still more durable.
2. Need proof.
3. This was a cheap shot because it was a hit from behind. It doesn't matter how durable you are if you get hit off guard you fall more easily. Hulk recovered seconds later.
4. Like I've said that wasn't normal Hulk. Savage Hulk has done way better.
5. Already answered. That didn't actually relate to how Thor could supposedly beat Hulk in one swing.
6. Show me scans of Thor's fight with Zeus. Also Hulk still took several hits before going down. Zeus had blocked his healing too.
7. Already answered.
8. Namor isn't comparable to Hulk. Namor with Iron Man, Wonder Man and later Doc Sampson couldn't stop Hulk. Namor is also a friend of Hulk so Hulk doesn't like hurting him. Also if you want to do comparisons, Hulk usually destroys Hercules who is comparable to Thor.
No ones making you repeat yourself.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 14 d
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Hulk @Clint_Barton Thor holds back even when losing meaning Thor not holding back isn't who he is.

Thor needed help from that machine. It wasn't like he causally sent Galactus flying back.
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 14 d
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Thor @Tyrannus:
> "Thor holds back even when losing meaning Thor not holding back isn't who he is."
Yes, he does hold back against mortals even when he loses. Since when Thor considers gods and godlike beings as mortals? That still doesn't prove his stats were amped.
Besides this feat, these feats and scalings also prove Thor is clearly superior to Surfer.
*Thor has already dented Surfer's head by a headbutt.
*Thor equals Hercules who casually stomped Surfer.
*Thor has knocked out Prof Hulk, who in the same story one-punched Surfer.
*Thor was able to injure poorly fed and sated Galactus, who already one-blasted Surfer.

> "Thor needed help from that machine. It wasn't like he causally sent Galactus flying back."
Can you prove that? 'cause it doesn't seem like Thor used that machine as a source of power. "Let the godly strength of Thor be one with hammer supreme!" Show me where is it stated that machine helped him.
"From thy crippled ship we shall erect a stand to house yon mighty mallet!" He clearly says it is a stand to place the hammer. You can't assume it amped Thor's power when it isn't stated, Occam's razor, my friend.
And you claimed they are close, now, fill your burden please, since burden of proof is clearly on you.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 14 d
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Hulk There weren't any conditions to that it just stated that Thor holds back regardless of whether their mortal or not.
I mean we only need to look at page 18. Thor wasn't using mjolnir like he usually does. He had help.
I say they are close given their previous battle tend to end in draws. While Thor does have more wins I feel as though SS holds back given he's character.
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 14 d
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Thor Where is it stated? And how does it show the power level when the character heavily holds back?

Yeah, he used a stand, lol, nothing there states that it was an amp. But it is stated it was just a stand to place hammer.

Thor holds back against Surfer, as well, but his consistent feats (I counted) are superior to Surfer his. Non-holding back Thor beating a non-holding back Surfer in 2 panels further proves Thor is more powerful.

Wanna conclude? I can find a judge.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 13 d
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Hulk I believe Captain America was the one who said so but I can't find the scan again. @Dark_Wing might be able to do so.
Thor couldn't hurt Galactus without it. He was helped.
I don't believe SS stopped holding back after he sent BRB away. He'd previously tried to calm him and it didn't really look like BRB was in the way.
Conclude how? What judge?
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 9 mo 13 d
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Thor Yep, this scan:

Clearly says "mortals".

He could, he has been able to defeat Zelia, Ymir, Surtur and such entities before. So either prove he had help or concede.

He did, he literally challenged Thor and was clearly trying to defeat him, but failed. Prove he held back, or y'know, concede.

We can end this debate and @AkhilPDX can judge.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 13 d
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Hulk Well you got me there.
I just find it hard to believe given who Galactus is and that Thor wasn't able to just do this without the stand. Has he done soemthing similar to Galactus since?
I concede. However that was warrior madness Thor. Ordinary Thor is a much closer match to SS.
Ok.
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 9 mo 13 d
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Thor Its worthless to give akhil a judge he himself think thor wins , so always judge u right and point sign in tyrannus
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 12 d
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Thor "You only need to look at pretty much any of their fight to see Thor can't really beat Hulk when he needs to. Thor doesn't "play"."

I Have yet to see any proof that he was going all out against him nor have I seen any adressments to my points that prove he does.

"When did Thor try and kill Hulk with one hit?"

Breaking into Comics the Marvel Way, tho he didn't try to, he lost his temper and stopped playing with his friend.

"Getting frustrated isn't enough."

Prove that

"I literally just read War of the Realms not too long ago so stop pretending I haven't read any Thor comics"

Wow you're saying you're an expert because you've read about the weakest version of Thor? By that logic I'm a Batman expert because the only Batman I've read or Thomas Wayne and New 52. Just because yoy read about the weakest in one of the worst represented versions of a character doesn't automatically make you an expert in by even thinking Hulk let the battle begin is valid shows how little you know about him.

"just because your losing."

How am I losing when I've presented all the facts and addressed every single word in your comments while you have completely dodged a few points because you don't have a rebuttal for them and if you do it's probably very crappy one ie your real life logic or your assumption that fighting skill will be useless on Hulk because he's beaten people who can fight smart, by that logic freaking Sonic the Hedgehog destroys armies of robots on a daily basic, Megatron is a robot so does Sonic the Hedgehog now atomically beat Megatron? Because that's the logic you're using with fighting skills being useless against the Hulk.

"How about reading a Hulk comic?"

I have read a Hulk comic. How many times am I gonna have to tell you this.

"Hulk beat pretty much everyone in Marvel during in Incredible Hulk #300 1962. Another I remember is Why must the Hulk Die story."

That was a different form of Hulk who was changed by Lord Nightmare. I have no problem using King Thor if you want to use that.

"Even leave a winning fight"

When has Hulk ever left a winning fight?

"I guessing he just got frustrated with Thor."

Right you are. I just brought that up as an example to prove Hulk was going all out against him.

"Just because Hulk doesn't back down doesn't mean he wants it."

Well it does prove that he doesn't hold back against Thor (which should already be obvious).

"If Thor holds back even when losing that means you can't just say Thor wins because if he stops holding back he wins.

Bruh, in a vs match both characters are in character but going for the win and know they have to win the fight by KO, death, BFR, incap, or making  opponent forfeited. So yes he would have a reason to go all out in a 1v1 vs match.

"That isn't Thor. That's warrior madness"

Fam do you even know what WM is? It's when Thor gets really angry and swept away in the thrill of battle. I find it noteworthy that he's only went into WM after something bad happened to him to invoke it and in Thor #502 he said "I couldn't bring it on" proving that him going all out doesn't always equal WM. It's stuff like this that first led me to say you didn't read Thor all those months ago.

"Just because Thor doesn't want to hurt Hulk"

Hulk sometimes starts his fights with Thor or at bare minimum is rampaging around and Thor shows up to stop him from causing more collateral damage.

"doesn't explain how he sent amped Hulk to space but can't do the same with savage Hulk."

Actually it does, if he doesn't want to kill Hulk then why would he ever try to shoot him into space? Also I find it noteworthy to mention the fact that Thor normally brawls with him fist to fist as a means to test his strength while in Fear Itself he used his skills to keep pace with a more powerful opponent and beat him by tricking him into letting his guard down and using lightning to send him into space. So yes add this with everything I've mentioned and yes it does make sense unless you can prove otherwise.

Edit: sorry for the rage, it's just that... 😔
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 12 d
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Thor 1: I don't see how that takes away from the fact that Thor was proven superior in that instance.
2: don't miss the point! Hulk's never been able to dent the Silver Surfer while Thor was. Also didn't the Bannerless Hulk say that Surfers most casual blasts were "killing him"
3: doesn't change the fact the Hulk's never been able to one shot him with one arm and casual ease, oh and Thor didn't use Mjolnir to do that. So...
4: actually the opposite read Journey Into Mystery #113, see above. If you're referring to Thor #387 then keep in mind that that era's version of Thor was said to have had his strength 'HALFED' without Mjolnir; not joking this actually was said.
5: please read the freaking comic! "You almost 'killed' him Thor." Why do I have to inform you on this?


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1: Not for nearly as much time as Thor was, Hulk just got there while Thor was already doing it for much longer. Don't change the subject, Thor one shotted Hulk with lightning while exhausted. Hulk just showed up to a battle Thor was in for an unknown amount of time.
2: see above
3: I have a question: if a boxer maneuvered behind another boxer and then hits him a couple of times in the back, would that count as a cheap shot? If not then why the heck what Thor did count other than you not liking it? Also I find it funny that you don't even know what a cheapshot is; a cheapshot is and I quote here: "an act of deliberate roughness against a defenseless opponent" what Hulk did to Thor both in this comic and other places is far worse than calling a lightning bolt down. And you've never explained why Hulk was "hit off guard" when he was running towards Thor and saw the gesture and still couldn't dodge it. I don't remember you ever addressing that point tho I could be wrong. Funny that Hulk was ready for battle and saw Thor making the lightning gesture so if what Hulk did later on in that comic counts as fair then why doesn't this?
4: yeah, when he doesn't want to hurt his friend which you've been unable to disprove and this is evidence of this. Heck if you look at my examples of Thor holding back during fights with Hulk, you'll notice Thor #385 is one of my examples. Now address the point!
5: see above
6: it was said by Hera that Zeus could have done that with not even questioning it https://ibb.co/wwHMGjT and Thor fighting Zeus https://ibb.co/y0G4MS7
8: when did that happen? You could say the same for Namor. Namor Hulk a good run for his money in his base and Thor without Mjolnir beat him at his full potential.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 12 d
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Hulk I gave examples of Thor with help still failing to beat the Hulk. Your just assuming Thor plays with Hulk when that makes no sense and demeans Thor.
We don't know the context of that fight and even then your assuming Thor plays when there's no evidence to support that.
Frustration isn't anger.
You keep making assumptions. War of the Realms was just the latest comic I'd read when you assumed I hadn't read Thor. It's funny coming from someone who only likes to read about their favourite character and nothing else. It explains why you assume Thor wins when he doesn't.
I actually gave a very good counter to Thor's loss. Just because you didn't like the truth doesn't mean it's "crappy". The truth hurts.
Hulk wasn't boosted in that story he was just tricked into attacking everyone. Thor still had help from pretty much everyone and still couldn't stop Hulk.
Hulk leaves a winning battle most of the time. He did so during Avengers #3, the Mighty Thor #385, Incredible Hulk Annual 2001 etc.
Hulk rarely goes all out on Thor either. As they are allies Hulk doesn't attack him the same way he would Red Hulk.
Thor still holds back even when losing meaning if he stays in character that won't change.
I said nothing wrong about WM. It was WM Thor.
Actually Thor does use his hammer and skills against Hulk in their fights. He doesn't "test" Hulk. There's only been like 1 or 2 instances where Thor fought without the hammer and that was to prove he can beat the Hulk without it. He was wrong.
1. Hulk actually ties Thor up. Thor's lucky Hulk just leaves.
2. Well actually Hulk has been able to resoundingly beat SS. He did say the blasts were killing him but that's because without Banner, Hulk was dying.
3. Technically the Immortal Hulk has one-shotted Thor. Again when has Thor done this without mjolnir?
4. Actually Thor does use his hammer during their first battle. Namor even helps take it off him.
5. We don't know the context of that fight. I doubt it's in one swing.

1. You made it out like Thor was fighting both while Hulk was just focused on him. You brought it up. Hulk wasn't one-shotted.
3. If you don't like real life examples then don't use them yourself or accept it when I use them. Thor was carrying Hulk at the time so he should have seen been prepared. That's not the same as someone sneaking up on someone else. Thor meanwhile actually hit Hulk from behind. Hulk was expecting an attack from the front. Don't be conceding. It's a sign of a bad debater.
4. So suddenly Thor had no problems killing his friend by sending him to space? Thor didn't say he was holding back in #385. He just got rid of his hammer and losses.
6. Zeus could have have done what?
8. You just repeated yourself after I used your point against you.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 9 d
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Thor "I gave examples of Thor with help still failing to beat the Hulk."

No you didn't except for the two I debunked.

"Your just assuming Thor plays with Hulk"

I freaking proved it to you! From statements of him always holding back to a third of his power while on Earth to statements where he always holds back against friends of his to not humiliate them to visual proof that he was holding back during there fights to feats that clearly show Thor's superior to his green counterpart.

"when that makes no sense and demeans Thor.'

How so?

"We don't know the context of that fight and even then your assuming Thor plays when there's no evidence to support that."

I. Have. Freaking. Provided. Evidence. See. Above!

"Frustration isn't anger"

Yes it is or at least a form of it. You haven't proven that he couldn't use it to get stronger.

"You keep making assumptions"

So do you! Don't be hypocritical!

"I'd read when you assumed I hadn't read Thor"

I freaking provided evidence that you don't know much about Thor so don't get me started.

"It's funny coming from someone who only likes to read about their favourite character and nothing else."

Wow you're again trying to make the nonsensical claim that I don't read comics! I've read a large plethora of different comics ranging from Marvel to DC to Image to IDW to Dark Horse to Archie etc. In fact I haven't read a Thor comic in months and I've read quite a few Hulk comics despite not even liking him that much! I am gonna quote directly from you "don't assume." I find it very hypocritical of you to even try to say that!

"It explains why you assume Thor wins when he doesn't."

Get the he'l out of your deluded little paradise in which you've won! You have yet to prove that Thor doesn't win and all you've proven is your own personal bias and inability to except facts!

"I actually gave a very good counter to Thor's loss."

No you didn't, instead you purposefully dodged a few of my points because you had no rebuttal after I debunked your RL logic and assumption that "not being perfect" means Thor will now be making baby's first mistakes on the battlefield which would be the equivalent of a mathematician missing 1+1. https://ibb.co/ZdL1kcz here's a screenshot of what I've written about this that you have no counter for. The fact that you even argue this after being debunked makes me question how unbiased you truly are.

"The truth hurts."

I could say the same to you after you were debunked on thinking this is valid.

"Hulk wasn't boosted in that story he was just tricked into attacking everyone."

And his mind was messed with which made him stronger.

"Thor still had help from pretty much everyone and still couldn't stop Hulk."

He couldn't stop that version of the Hulk but again if you want to use that we can also use King Thor which I have no problem with though I assure you that'll be a stomp because base Thor already stalemated him in that comic.

"He did so during Avengers #3, the Mighty Thor #385, Incredible Hulk Annual 2001"

Which year was Avengers #3? He only left after he calmed down in Thor #385 which is evident by him saying "Hulk not angry anymore Hulk only fights when angry." And Thor looked pretty beat up after the cheapshot in Hulk 2001 so it makes sense he'll leave then.

"Hulk rarely goes all out on Thor either"

Any proof that Hulk holds back against Thor?

"Thor still holds back even when losing meaning if he stays in character that won't change."

You're forgetting why he holds back. The reason most heroes hold back is A: so they don't kill the opponent and B: so they don't destroy Earth; in a vs match they wouldn't have to worry about killing the opponent because that's what they're trying to do and they won't have to worry about destroying the planet because the battle takes place on an indestructible planet with the same gravity as Earth.

"I said nothing wrong about WM. It was WM Thor."

Yes you did. You said Warrior Madness happens whenever Thor stops holding back which isn't true.

"Actually Thor does use his hammer and skills against Hulk in their fights."

While he does use his hammer, I'm not sure he uses his skills, plz give an example of him using his skills

"There's only been like 1 or 2 instances where Thor fought without the hammer and that was to prove he can beat the Hulk without it. He was wrong."

Actually he only willingly did that once and even that was a stalemate (tho Thor did somewhat prove superior). And in Thor #385 he was forced to put down his hammer because Hulk threatened to kill a civilian like I've already told thee.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 9 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor 1: excuse me where does Hulk tie up Thor in this comic https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Journey-Into-Mystery-1952/Issue-112?id=6723?
2: but has Hulk ever been strong enough to dent Silver Surfer? I'm asking because you keep dodging that point because you have no rebuttal for it. And if that were the case then why did Hulk say "you're killing me" to the surfer?
3: more point dodging. Just concede if you don't have a rebuttal. Oh and if you're using Immortal Hulk then why am I not allowed to use Phoenix King Thor? And Thor has one shotted the Hulk in the points you keep dodging.
4: did. You. Even. Read. The. Comic? Thor wished to Odin that he could have five minutes to "test his strength" (see? I was right) against the Hulk, he gets that, he contends equally with him Hulk while at a disadvantage until time runs out, then he gets his hammer back.
5: can you prove it wasn't one swing?

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1: I only brought the frost giants up because it helped the point that Thor was tired. And yes Thor did one shot him which you'd know if you've read the comic.
3: I'm using real life "ANALOGIES" not examples. Now answer the point! Guess what? Thor didn't! That would mean Hulk was outsmarted, not cheapshoted. It's hard to take you seriously when you make the claim that Hulk running at someone full speed getting stronger by the nanosecond is "defenseless" so there he wasn't cheap shotted. Again he was outsmarted not cheapshoted, besides everything you said can also be applied to Thor so either all the examples here are cheap shots or none of them are. And how am I conceding? Oh, and the lightning came from Hulk's front it only hit his back because he ducked and if anything this scan looks like Thor doesn't want to fight while Hulk does completely killing your claim that Hulk fights to get away and this ain't the only example of this. Yield my friend this ain't a cheapshot and if it is then your Hulk victories also count as cheapshots because Hulk hit him when he wasn't expecting it.
4: things very quickly change when your friend is possessed by your father in law and told to kill you. And yes he did prove he was holding back: again https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-45303c5c1efdbb099a10cb20918d8fed he says "I meant not to slay him" implying he forgot to hold back like he always dose. Also he put down his hammer because Hulk threatened to kill a civilian if he didn't so no, Thor didn't put down his hammer to face him fairly.
6: vaporize Hulk with a thought as said in the scan above.
8: no I only repeated it because you tried (and still are trying) to dodge the point because you have no way of contending with it. Again with the rebuttal: "Namor with Iron Man, Wonder Man and later Doc Sampson couldn't stop Hulk" when did that happen? "Namor is also a friend of Hulk so Hulk doesn't like hurting him" same could be said for Namor. And how did you use my point against me?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 7 d
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Hulk You never debunked Thor with the Avengers being unable to beat Hulk.
Holding back doesn't mean you "play". Playing is having fun and not worrying about the outcome. Thor's pride demands he must win and he knows it stresses Hulk out. Thor's not a child.
We still don't know the context of that fight actually. It was never revealed so you can't pretend there.
Even saying Hulk was frustrated is an assumption and even then it's not enough.
I don't assume.
I do know Thor actually. You don't know Hulk.
You can't bias against a character just because you don't like them.There's so much irony in your statements, just saying.
I've still given good counters to you claiming Thor's loss was "PIS". Your response was "don't use real life examples" then went on to use real life examples. smh
Having your mind messed don't make you stronger. Don't assume.
If you want to use King Thor I can use Cosmic Immortal Hulk. I don't mind.
Avengers #3 was their very first fight. Hulk left in the other two comics because he'd proven he'd won. It wasn't really a cheap shot but ok.
Banner's the reason Hulk holds back.
When Thor stops holding back he does enter warrior madness.
You made it sound like Thor fought without the hammer twice. Even so Hulk was shown as stronger without mjolnir involved.
1. Actually Hulk ties him up in Avengers #3
2. I don't remember him denting Silver Surfer but that matters little considering Hulk still beat him. Has Thor been able to catch SS with his hands?
3. I asked you to prove Thor one-shotted Hulk without mjolnir and you couldn't deliver and just deflected. Nice.
4. Hulk actually had the advantage without mjolnir.
5. Can you prove that it was?

1. Show me scans. I have the comic so I know that's false.
3. I meant condescending. If your struggling to take things seriously then I'm not sure what's wrong with you. The lightening hits him at the back of the head actually. He didn't duck. Hulk needs to beat his opponent to leave or else he won't be allowed to leave in peace. Think it through. Also what your saying here is that either Thor didn't cheap shot Hulk so Hulk has also fairly beat Thor later on or Thor did cheap shot Hulk and Hulk did cheap shot Thor later. Either way you lose.
8. I beaten your point as I've doing now. Incredible Hulk #316. I forgot Hercules was there too. I brought up Namor so I used Hercules and then you just named Namor again.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 26 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor "You never debunked Thor with the Avengers being unable to beat Hulk."

Yes I have debunked all three of them! Here's them again:
1: Hulk Smash Avengers: Hulk was basically being held down easily by all the heroes (none of which were on Thor's level so he was doing most of the work) the only reason the Hulk broke free was because Giant Man let go to save Wasp which startled Thor allowing the Hulk to slip by and get a cheap shot off. Later on in that same comic he was matched by Ironman which is very impressive (sarcasm) when you remember that Thor three shotted Ironman in Thor #3 by J Micheal Straczynski.
2: Hulk #300: see below
3: Immortal Hulk #4: that was conveniently the weakest version of Thor going up against a Hulk who is easily at bare minimum WBH level. If you want to use that then we can also use either Lord Thor or Odin Force Thor, end of story.

"Holding back doesn't mean you "play". Playing is having fun and not worrying about the outcome."

Pardon my bad choice of words, what I meant when I said that was Thor held way back which I've already proven.

"Thor's pride demands he must win and he knows it stresses Hulk out."

How does it stress Hulk out? And you do realize that Thor values the lives of civilians and his friend *cough cough* the Hulk *cough* way more than his ego, right? He didn't put in the hours into becoming the greatest warrior just so he could say "I'm better than you" or anything like that, he put in the hours so he coukd protect all 9 realms including Earth.

"Even saying Hulk was frustrated is an assumption and even then it's not enough."

In the classic comics Hulk was once restrained by a metal called "Plastne Thane" in which he broke out of by getting stronger. He doesn't need to be hit to get angrier or anything like that. So yeah he can get stronger in a situation like that and I find it noteworthy that Defenders #4 was published to show that Thor and Hulk were equals so...

"I don't assume"

I'll get back to this beautiful point in a few...

"I do know Thor actually. You don't know Hulk."

You've yet to prove both of those my friend.

"You can't bias against a character just because you don't like them."

Doesn't a bias person only debate using there own opinion and nothing else? Because I have some good facts that you seem to be unable to contest. I do concede I may be being a little bias against Hulk but at least I've conceded that he can beat Thor if he's not careful or if Hulk gets to a certain rage level while you're acting like Thor stands little to no chance. I brought up not liking the Hulk because you assumed I don't read comics outside of my favorite character and that is 💯 precent not true.

"I've still given good counters to you claiming Thor's loss was "PIS""

No you didn't, your first argument was the fallacious assumption that RLL applies to Thor and because of that he will somehow become a brawler and your second one means you'll just ignore your survival instincts and let yourself beaten to death. Second you said not being perfect means you'll just ignore your survival instinct and just let yourself get beaten to death. All because you can't contest the fact that your least favorite character isn't an idiot and can stand up to your husbando.

"then went on to use real life examples."

If you're referring to when I said "if a boxer got behind another boxer and hit him in the back," that's an analogy that happened to involve real life figures while you were straight up assuming logic and physics from real life apply to Thor. Do you seriously not have the brain capacity to tell the difference?

"Having your mind messed don't make you stronger"

Are you able to increase your strength just by getting angry? I'm asking because Nightmare also made him angry beyond belief. Also I find noteworthy that he was stripped of his Banner component which allowed him to use his full potential. Again if you want to use this then you can also use Warriors Madness Thor but since base Thor already stalemated that Hulk.

"If you want to use King Thor I can use Cosmic Immortal Hulk"

Guess someone doesn't want a fair fight. Put the Hulk while empowered by the second strongest character in the franchises and of course he'd win.

"Hulk left in the other two comics because he'd proven he'd won."

If you want to say he won just because he injured Thor then ran with Thor catching up and giving him payback then why doesn't Hulk Let The Battle Begin count as a Thor victory because he basically destroyed him with Hulk only winning due to a combination of luck, plot convince, and a cheap tactic; not strength?

"wasn't really a cheap shot"

I proved that it was.

"When Thor stops holding back he does enter warrior madness"

Okay then how do you explain this "though my rage may be my only hope in beating Onslaught 'I CANT SEEM TO BRING IT ON.'" Warriors Madness happens when Thor enraged and not holding back but doesn't always happen when he does those two things.

"You made it sound like Thor fought without the hammer twice"

That's because it did happen twice.

"Even so Hulk was surperior both times.

Already debunked that.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 26 d
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Thor 1: irrelevant, I was referring to Journey Into Mystery #112
2: no it matters a lot because it's a feat Hulk's never been able to accomplish. Whenever Hulk fought Surfer he did the equivalent to pummeling him until he was unconscious while Thor did the equivalent to fracturing his skull with a headbutt. Thor has completely blitzed the same amped Surfer and rammed into Galactus before Surfer could react in Thor #4. When has Hulk ever done that? Besides when has Hulk caught the Silver Surfer? Oh, and Thor dented him here
3: Thor didn't one shot Hulk (as he won't do that to one of his closest friends), he one shotted a being said to be as strong as the Hulk which basically means he could do the same to Hulk. You haven't addressed that yet without bringing in anti feats that have been debunked.
4: Did. You. Read. The. Comic? They pretty much equals
5: you're the one assuming it wasn't so I quote directly from you: "don't assume" I'm just quoting what happened in the comic.

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1: yes I do https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-6742374/#imageViewer1300-6742374 and https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-6742375
3: How the heck am I condescending? And what makes you think I can't take things seriously? No, the lighting was coming from the front and yes he did duck https://ibb.co/Sm61Kq4 even if he didn't, he was far from defenseless which I've already proven. Now answer the question rather then dodging it: if a boxer maneuvered behind another boxer and then hits him a couple of times in the back, would that count as a cheap shot? If not then why the heck does what Thor did count other than you not liking it? That's the least I can get from this point if I were to throw the argument right now but I've already proven that Thor was cheapshoted while Hulk was not so...
8: using Hercules is a false equivalent as he is only equal to unarmed Thor but if Mjolnir's involved Thor would be a vast superior to him. Also when has Hulk "destroyed" Hercules? Because what I remember is Hercules knocking over World War Hulk which briefly dazed him with a very casual uppercut but not pressing the attack because he didn't want to hurt him afterwards so if anything the Hercules example helped my point because Hercules could have dealt some serious damage to a much more durable Hulk. Besides in that comic you mentioned the heroes were all ragdolling Hulk until they started to fight each other.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 26 d
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Thor "I don't assume."

Ow! The irony!
1: you've assumed I don't read comics outside of Thor several times mind you; an argument that I literally slaughtered yet you still believe it for some weird reason.
2: you've assumed that "not bring perfect" means you'll just ignore your survival instincts and let yourself beaten to death. By this logic if I was in the streets listening to my favorite Paramore songs and a car was coming does that mean I'll just stand there and let myself be hit by a piece of several ton metal?! Because that's what you're trying to say!
3: you've assumed fallacious real life logic applies to Thor of all people and will somehow make him a mindless brawler. There have been at least three examples I can think of off the top of my head where Thor didn't become a brawler after suffering injuries far worse than a single hit to the face: 1: Siege: he took a pummeling from Sentry which made him bleed yet he didn't become mindless, 2: his fight with Bor in Thor #701 where he took an attack so devastating that he said if he didn't have the Odin Force he would have been killed, 3: in Fear Itself #5 he took a blast from Cul who is defiantly stronger than Hulk yet wasn't made a brawler, and my favorite: 4: Silver Surfer blasted him directly in the chest with a beam of superheated cosmic energy full force with Thor describing it as "a wound in my gut that hurts like hell"
4: you've assumed I'm bias without providing any evidence for it.
5: you've assumed that Hulk was holding back the whole time he was in NYC.
6: you've assumed I don't read comics at all.
7: you've assumed that Thor not holding back atomically equals Warriors Madness which I've already disproved
8: you've assumed Hulk is somehow immune to fighting skill just because peak humans like Captain America can't do much to someone who is literally infinitely stronger than him though if say Nightwing woke up one morning with the strength of Hulk and went on to fight Hulk, he would completely destroy him.
9: you've assumed I don't know anything about the Hulk just because I don't overrate him.
I could go on and on.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 26 d
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Hulk 1. Hulk wasn't "easily" being held. They were struggling and it took several Avengers in which they couldn't even hold him in the end. No cheap shot, they knew Hulk was there. Iron Man has never been a problem for Hulk. Again your assuming things are worse for Hulk than they are and then get offended when you get called out on it. If you want to use Lord Thor then I can use Cosmic Immortal Hulk if you want? Then it really would be end of story.
2. You only need to look at Hulk's face and words to see he doesn't enjoy this. He tends to leave very often despite how well he may do. Thor has shown many times he's ego gets the better of him. In The Mighty Thor #385 Thor lets his pride of proving he's stronger blind him to the remaining damages. In the Incredible Hulk Annual 2001 it's Hulk who save the people who were put in danger because of Thor.
3. Given that you undermine Hulk repeatedly, I have proven that.
4. I've beaten everything you've sent. You just like to think I haven't because your losing. I've never said Thor has no chance against Hulk.
5. Don't know what RLL means. Like I've said repeatedly I never said Thor suddenly becomes a brawler when hit. For some reason you like going from one extreme to the other. Letting go of your most powerful asset isn't a survival instinct. Thor was for a very long time my favourite Avenger and still is in my top 10. Just because you love Thor and hate Hulk doesn't mean the opposite must be true for me. What's a husbando?
6. You don't like real life examples but use them yourself. It helps if you read the whole sentence.
7. I'm not the Hulk and I've never had my mind messed by a telepath. By the way Hulk already showed control over a WM Thor so that doesn't help.
8. If you want it to be a fair fight then don't bring up RKT or others.
9. Hulk beat Thor in Let The Battle Begin because he got stronger. Get over jeez.
10. No proof it was a cheap shot and unable to prove Hulk wasn't superior. Check

1. You asked where did Hulk tie up Thor. I showed you.
2. So denting the board matters more than beating the man himself? OK. Even then I'm sure Hulk could do so considering he is stronger.
3. You claimed he one-shotted Hulk. Hulk gets stronger so that matters little.
4. Did you read the comic? Hulk was shown as stronger. He leaves once he'd proven his point.
5. You made the claim first that Thor beat him in one swing which your unable to prove, you just assumed.

1. That wasn't because of Thor
3. You question my intelligence and talk down to me a lot. Just think carefully before you reply. You literally say you can't take this seriously many times. Hulk was charging forward. That's not ducking. So it's a cheap shot if Hulk hits Thor but not if Thor hits Hulk?
8. Well I mean Hulk destroys him in that very example. Hulk holds them like toys. He does so again during World War Hulk. Hulk wasn't knocked over. Hercules was never going to do serious damage to WWH come on!
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 24 d
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Thor 1: okay but you really only did that to distract from a point you had no rebuttal for.
2: I never said that! Thor has also beaten him multiple times and if Odin didn't intervene, Thor would have likely killed the amped Silver Surfer in the same comic where he dented him. This is just one of the many examples to prove that Thor is indeed stronger than Hulk and clearly one you've been unable to beat.
3: i didn't just claim it, I provided proof of it and yes it does matter because Thor can do that before he gets angry if he wants to. I literally said that Hulk could match or even surpass Thor in my unbiased opinion up there ⬆️.
4: for the last time: I was talking about Journey Into Mystery #112, not Thor #385, and I've already explained why this counts more than Thor 385.
5: you've been unable to prove that that didn't happen so if anything you're the one who's assuming! Also I find it noteworthy to mention that Hulk has what is known as a "healing factor" which allows him to heal up from most injuries almost instantly which means to beat him you have to either be fast enough and ruthless enough to overload his healing factor or you have to be strong enough to straight up one shot him (unless you have plot armor and have to beat him for narrative reasons).
Also I forgot to mention number 6: in Thor the Reining part 5 of 5 Thor is tacked from behind and pummeled for serval hours by both the Hulk and the Thing yet still manages to kill both of them despite missing an entire arm, being weaponless, and being stripped of the Odin Force making him base Thor. ⬅️ more proof that Thor can beat Hulk without Mjolnir if he really needs to.

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1: then why did it happen?
3: I literally just apologized for that in the last comment. I only questioned your intelligence because you were trying to argue that a feat the authors admitted was PIS was valid with your only argument being that Thor wasn't perfect which I've already destroyed. Do you have consistent examples of me talking down to you because you just said I constantly do that? If so I've already apologized for that. Clearly you haven't looked at the scan. Do you seriously think Thor would make his lighting go under the Hulk just so he could hit him in the front? Especially when he gave him a ton of warning before using the lightning. Once again you're using false equivalents. Thor gave Hulk plenty of warning with his gesture and it only hit him in the back because of the position Hulk was in meanwhile while Hulk hit him when he had absolutely no way of expecting it and he had his attention focused on getting back to Earth using Mjolnir to fly there rather than being reddy for an attack. At that very instance Thor was literally the defenseless opponent while Hulk was far from defenseless when lightning hit him. Nice reflecting on your part BTY. Also Thor was visibly surprised by Hulk waking up which gave Hulk ample time to cheapshot him
8: he only destroyed him because he was unwilling to fight back at that point which is evident in his dialogue. I never said Herc would have done any serious damage to WWHulk, but the point still stands that Herc briefly dazed him, knocked him over and had the potential to pummel him if need be only not because Herc didn't want to hurt his friend. I'm not saying he could have beaten WWH but he could have done a lot better against a much stronger and more durable Hulk. And you're still ignoring that Herc is only a peer of an unarmed Thor but if Mjolnir's involved Thor would reign supreme so in a way Thor is a vastly improved Hercules so his failings do translate to Thor.

Oh, and I forgot to ask this question: you thought it was okay when Breaker posted a bunch of scans of Hulk beating up Thor but when I posted the numbers of comic where Thor won you called me "a Thor fanboy who didn't read comics;" why was it okay when Breaker did it but not when I did it?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 23 d
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Hulk 1. That's still a legit win for the Hulk. It's still canon. It's not really PIS if the writer says so. If you want to go down that road it hurts Thor more than it does Hulk.
2. Hulk doesn't usually attack for no reason. Thor is either encouraging a fight or annoying him. Fighting Hulk has actually endangered civilians which Hulk sometimes has to save. Hulk is also hindered in that he's not fighting to kill Thor either. He just wants to go. Hulk reacted to quickly for Thor to react. Hulk beat too quickly. Get over it and take the L.
4. They are both inferior to the Hulk. Hulk has far better feats
5. There is nothing wrong with Let The Battle Begin. It makes complete sense. Hulk overpowered him. The End.
6. I love Thor but I'm know when he loses. Cyclops is my all time favourate yet I can't remember a time I didn't vote for him. What double standards? You have to look pasted the bias and see who actually wins and when I do that, it's the Hulk who wins.
7. What you said about me being inconsistent literally made no sense. You didn't even answer me.
10. I don't deny Thor's wins with any lame excuses. It's lame to you because you don't want to accept Hulk as stronger but he is. If you don't like getting accused of reflecting then don't reflect.
11. You haven't proven that's why they powered down at all. Hulk does so voluntarily not because Sentry made him do so. That's not how Hulk's powers work and bare in mind Hulk was holding back.
14. You do make it seem as though you don't read Hulk because your underrate him often and either exaggerate or make things seem worse for the Hulk than they actually are.

1. No you denied Hulk tying up Thor. I showed you.
2. I'm already beating you. Hulk beat Silver Surfer in Silver Surfer #125. Hulk's shown as stronger than Thor in The Mighty Thor #385.
3. You originally claimed Thor one-shotted Hulk without mjolnir. Then you used the example with mjolnir but it has no context and isn't really part of continuity. Sure when Thor gets angry he gets stronger but it pales in comparison to when Hulk gets angry.
5. I didn't assume it didn't happen (again your reflecting) I just said there's no context to the fight. What Thor did during Reining isn't part of the main timeline.

3. You only brought up the author in that very same reply so don't pretend I knew all along. You do talk down to me. You tried to show me the official words for someone hit off guard and your other wording is quite patronising. I appreciate the apology I'm just saying think before you replying. So you admit it didn't hit Hulk from the front. He didn't give Hulk tons of warning time, don't exaggerate. And when you reflect, don't try and reflect that again at me. Your only proving me right.
8. Hercules wasn't going to pummel WWH.

When did I make that claim to you? I'm not necessarily denying it but I need to know to why I said it.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 19 d
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Thor This comment isn't a debunk to your most recent paragraph, it's the comment I originally intended to send to you as I've already told you how I made a mistake and posted the same comment in both sections of our debate. I'll post the rebuttal to your comment right there where it rightfully belongs in just a few minutes. without further do let's do this:

1: pardon my English I was using "cheapshot" as a shortcut to say "he distracted and hit them off guard" which is exactly what happened if you actually payed attention to that comic. Giant Man let go to save Wasp which startled all the heroes and Hulk hit them while they were distracted and jumped off. Prove that I've gotten offended for that! I'm not assuming things are worse off for the Hulk, I'm literally just saying what happened in the comic. Actually it's you who keeps trying to use Immortal Hulk beating the weakest version of Thor as a feat and you keep trying to shift the focus onto TOBA Hulk; If you want to use that then go ahead but afterwards we'd have to use Bruce Banner before being hit by the Gamma nuke and put him up against any version of Thor because that's what you seem to want. Oh, and Ironman has beaten Hulk in Ironman #132 by Stan Lee. So...
2: still ignoring the fact that Thor and Hulk's fights happen because Hulk was running around threaten civilians by destroying things and even though it happens for a reason, someone has to stop it and that's where Thor comes into the picture. In Hulk Annual 2001 Thor lost his temper because Hulk hit him off guard, pummeled him into the ground, and then walked away from an unfinished fight; that very different from pride. I've already shown you how Thor was still holding back against Hulk in that comic and if you actually pay attention you'd realize that most of the collateral damage was attributed to Hulk, not Thor. Though I will give you this point I'm just going to say that Thor more consistently is not like that and when he was training his 'INTENT' was to protect the 9 realms which was what I said. Thor being willing to lose a fight in order to not lose self control (which was said by Cap) is proof of this.
4: okay get real when have you beaten most of my claims? Because I can make a list of stuff you haven't debunked and stuff I have debunked if you need to. I could say the same about you. Now I say to you one last time: Stop. Trying. To. Break. My. Focus. Like. That. If you're truly winning (which you're not) you wouldn't have to say it because it would already be happening. Well you've been acting like he doesn't have a chance.
5: RLL = real life logic. And like I've said repeatedly: that was what you were basically hinting at and I've also explained why even if it did hinder his skills he should still be able to outperform Hulk with ease after all how skilled is Hulk really? I've already explained how you've downplayed Thor and that I don't hate Hulk. And if Thor was once your favorite character then what changed?
6: when have I used RL logic? Make sure it's RL logic because I've already explained why analogies that happen to involve real life figures don't count.
7: I didn't think so. Look at my debate with @Breaker where he brings up WM Thor because in it I proved that Hulk's fight with WM Thor is the biggest outlier since Batman kicking the Spectre. Long story short: Hulk constantly struggles against regular Thor; how the heck is Professor Hulk supposed to stand up to a 10X amped Thor? The Answer: logically he can't. Now please prove that WM Thor isn't an outlier if you want to use it.
8: I have only done that because you keep trying to use Mindless Hulk, Immortal Hulk, and Worldbreaker Hulk.
9: disproved the everliving essence out of that claim in the comment down below ⬇️. Long story short you made an assumption with no proof to back it up, an assumption that is disproven by the comic itself.
10: I literally just said it was NOT a cheapshot in my last comment! I said it was a surprise attack and then went on to give the official definition of "surprise attack." There's s big difference between a cheapshot and a surprise attack my friend, try again. You've yet to prove that Hulk was superior and yes the scan I sent and the author statements (see below ⬇️) proves that Thor was surprised what you claim.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 18 d
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Thor 1: okay. Thor wasn't tied up for more than a few seconds at most so it's not like Hulk could really have done much to him if he didn't leave.
2: Are you kidding me?! The comic where Hulk was stripped of his Banner half making him at his full potential while Surfer was visibly holding back as he didn't want to fight him. Not only Hulk didn't beat him because that fight was inconclusive but Hulk admitted that Surfer was killing him with the most casual of blasts! What makes this even more of an L on your part is that Hulk was unable to get through Surfer's shields, something that Thor doesn't even need Mjolnir to do! I've already explained how multiple times in the section alone that Thor in that comic proved that he was still holding back against Hulk and I have no problem repeating it for the twelve trillionth time. Besides I have several examples of Thor being superior to Hulk that you've yet to disprove. Need I repeat them? Remember several examples far outweighs one.
3: I never said Thor one shotted Hulk without Mjolnir, I said he one shotted an enemy who was equal to the Hulk. Quote exactly where I said he did without Mjolnir.
5: uh, did you forget that the writer's intent was to show how powerful Mjolnir is so it would make sense as to why Thor was so reliant on it. Based on this alone there is no reason to think there was context to take away from the dangers of Mjolnir and I find it noteworthy that when Thor was talking about it, he blamed the entire thing on his own loss of temper and the power of Mjolnir, not outside circumstances.
6: The Reigning is only not part of the main timeline because Thor went back in time to right his wrongs. There is absolutely no reason for the Reigning not to count as Thor and Hulk were there Earth 616 versions with no increases it decreases in power for either of them. So unlike your fave plot moment, this is an accurate representation of both characters powers. If you get to count Hulk being Immortal because of a non canon comic this also counts.

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3: the way you say I "tried" makes it sound like you think I failed; how did I fail to show you the truth? Okay I'll try to stop it and I'll try to think next time. No, I still hold true to the fact that the lightning was coming from the front, like I said the only reason him in the back was because of the position he was in. Yes he did give Hulk plenty of warning with the gesture, the lightning literally coming from the front only hitting him in the back due to his position, the sky was getting cloudy, etc. Now prove that it wasn't plenty of warning! Now answer my question (again): if a boxer maneuvered behind another boxer and him in the back with that count as a cheap shot?
8: because he didn't want to, that's why I said he had the "POTENTIAL" to do so.

On this page (the comment has been deleted tho) you called me a Thor fanboy and said and I quote here "I know Hulk wins because I read comics I'm confused as to why you don't" so please answer this question.
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Tyrannus
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Hulk 1. It's ironic you telling me to pay attention but oh well. You sound defensive too which also shows how offended you might be. You purposely use very poor wording for the Hulk. Immortal Hulk didn't beat the weakest version of Thor. He had the Avengers backing him with a few heavy hitters and he still got one shotted. I only bring up CIH because you keep trying to save yourself with RKT. Don't like it, don't bring him up. If you seriously think Iron Man can fairly beat Hulk then you've just exposed your own bias.
2. You conveniently ignored the part where Thor usually endangers civilians by attacking Hulk. Look at Hulk Annual 2001 and Mighty Thor #385. Thor sometimes knows he's endangering civilians but his ego won't let him stop. Thor does not hold back against Hulk unless your talking about WMT which is a separate page.
4. You can make your list but it'll just be a list of things I've debunked but you ignored my reply. I've never once said Thor doesn't stand a chance that's just you assuming again.
5. If Thor is so skilled and capable of outperforming Hulk then why hasn't he been able to do it? Your literally the only person here you says I downplay Thor which is funny because I usually get accused of overrating him. You have admitted you don't like Hulk and that Thor is your favourite. Thor was my favourite but now I like the main 4 equally for different reasons.
6. You gave the example of hitting a boxer or something like that in the back of the head.
7. It's that bad because first of all Hulk doesn't struggle against Thor. Also that was young Maestro Hulk.
10. A surprise attack and a cheap shot can be and usually is the same thing. Proof of Hulk being superior can be found in Hulk Let The Battle Begin. This was one of the more fairer fights and Hulk beats him down good and proper. You can claim PIS all you want but it's not.

1. A few seconds can make all the difference. I'm sure if Hulk stayed to beat down Thor though you would have claimed PIS or it's unfair though.
2. You didn't read the comic properly and don't know the context. Hulk was not at full capacity he was dying and cannot increase his power. His only advantage is that he fights more aggressively. It wasn't a casual blast. Stop trying to big up Hulk's attacker unnecessarily. Stop the hate. Hulk was dying anyway and he says this even after Surfer stops attacking him. No Ls except on you still. Claiming holding back can be said about most heroes including Hulk. Several examples, that's funny. You mean the time Hulk was able to hold Thor in an arm wrestle without improving his strength much or the time he proved Thor can't win without mjolnir or the fairest fight of all where Hulk beat Thor as well as the Wrecking Crew.
3. Very few beings are like the Hulk.
6. It was done because writers knew they wouldn't be held back by continuity. Writers have done the same with Hulk. You contradicted yourself at the end. Hulk is immortal.

3. The lightening comes from above not the front. Thor had his back turned so there was no reason to expect an attack. Does it take Thor that long to bring the lightening? If not then there isn't plenty of warning time. I won't answer real life questions if you can't accept them being used against you.
8. Potential means nothing. Robin has the potential to beat Batman. He usually never will.
Laserblue
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Thor STRAIGHT OUTTA OOOKLYN
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Xverine 11 mo 7 d
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Thor As long as we're assuming that Hulk can't lift Mjolnir but Thor can, then Thor can just set it on Hulk's chest.
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Dark_Wing
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Thor ^^^🙄^^^
EmptyHand
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Thor Hulk has once used Mjølnir against Thor, since he's so strong he could lift Mjølnir, how does Thor win?
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Breaker
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Hulk hulk did also left the hammer a town of times not Cuz he is worthy that Cuz he is so strong
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 11 mo 4 d
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Thor @Empty and @Breaker: if you two are referring to indestructible Hulk then remember he only did that when Thor was calling back the hammer meaning Hulk merely caught it and held it back before it carried him back to Thor. If you're referring to the PIS ridden moment in Hulk let the battle begin then realize Hulk didn't actually lift the hammer, rather he surprised Thor by grabbing his arm and hit him. This is PIS simply because Thor, a war veteran of several thousand years was unable to think his way out of that. I understand what the writer was going for which was that Thor would underestimate Hulk because he doesn't know what he's capable of and get humiliated though I never bought it because even if the only comic you've read involving Thor was that comic then you'll still see him presenting himself, monologuing, acting, and fighting like a warrior and since he's a warrior (unless you think he's the Norse version of Rey from Star Wars) then it's safe to assume he trained and if he trained and if he trained then he should have been prepared for such a simple move like that. Now I ask you all: would a war veteran of 15 years be tricked like that? Would a veteran of 800 years like Yoda make that mistake? If not then why would Thor who not only had been doing this for thousands of years, but he was also trained by some of the best in the universe, which you'd both know if you actually read Thor. Fun fact: fictional characters don't apply to RL logic especially magic empowered gods like Thor so I don't even want to here someone say "bOxeRs hAvE sAiD iN tHe HeAt oF a FiGhT yOu lOsE aLl yOuR tHiNkzinG sKiLlS aNd GeT cAuGht Up iN tHe mOmEnt" because by that logic those UFC members would atomativky become mindless brawlers like the Hulk or Bane are but they never do, neither should a several thousand year old warrior god who's been fighting a large plethora of different enemies with a large plethora of different weapons long before the Vikings even settled in Norway (yes, the Marvel version of Norway should have happened in the exact same time it did in real life).
Bane333
Bane333 11 mo 4 d
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Thor @Empty
It doesn't take strength to lift or use Mjølnir.
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Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 11 mo 4 d
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Thor @bane if we have sufficient strength we can lift hammer
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 11 mo 4 d
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Thor What the f*ck is that argument @Empty?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 11 mo 4 d
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Hulk @Dark_Wing I've already told you a few times how in Let The Battle Begin it was the opposite of PIS. Thor had Hulk on his knees. Thor has the advantage now but suddenly Hulk was rightly able to overpower him. It doesn't matter how experienced you are, when you get punched in the face you can't out think your opponent. I don't know why your in denial about this.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 11 mo 4 d
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Thor Probably because our most recent debate about this was inconclusive because you never replied to it so since it wasn't debunked, I had no reason to change my opinion (something I still do when proven wrong bty). And you still haven't explained why you're using real life logic on two fictional characters or weather by your logic, anyone in a fistfight would turn into a mindless brawler because of that. And you still haven't explained why Thor couldn't have dropped the hammer BEFORE Hulk landed a single hit on him.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 11 mo 4 d
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Hulk I didn't know you replied back because this site has no notifications. It's not like I'm asking how a Norse god can walk among us, when your getting punches in the head your not thinking clearly. Thor didn't realise and learnt later on same way he did with Red Hulk
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 11 mo 4 d
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Thor So, again I ask you: by that logic wouldn't anyone who is being hit just become a mindless brawler? You're still forgetting Thor's ability to fight while heavily injured aswell. As for Red Hulk: that storyline is known for having PIS moments like Red Hulk defeating Sentry and literally beating The Watcher who is a Galactus level being. So...
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 11 mo 4 d
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Hulk I never said you suddenly become a mindless brawler but in fights you need to make split second decisions meaning you may end up regretting them or wishing you did something else. The question of why didn't Thor let go of his hammer can be applied to almost every fight that ever took place. The loser's always going to wish they did something else. I don't know about Sentry but The Watcher isn't exactly a fighters. I believe it was a young Watcher and Red Hulk only punches him, I don't remember him defeating the Watcher
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 11 mo 3 d
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Thor @Clint the arguement is that Thor being worthy using his weapon shouldn't necessarily mean that he wins
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 11 mo 3 d
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Thor @Tyrannus: " I never said you suddenly become a mindless brawler" you said "all that training and preparation goes out the window" implying by that logic you'll become nothing more than a brawler. "Making quick Decisions" you act like it's hard to make a decision (it sometimes is but this isn't one if those "sometimes"), if anything it should be harder to throw a punch than to simply let go of the hammer, it's not that difficult my friend and Thor clearly felt his hand being forced into his face by an angry monster who more than likely wanted to kill him (fun fact Hulk: Let The Battle Begin takes place long before Thor and Hulk became friends) what should he have expected to happen? And he knows only he and other worthy people can lift it so what would he have done if PIS was off? That's right the first thing that comes to mind. I'm laughi... no, scratch that, I'm rolling on the floor at the fact that you're ignoring the one thing a warrior is trained to do which is to make at LEAST decent decisions at any given moment. Don't even try to argue Red Hulk is above Sentry when Ares an Olympian Warrior who destroyed A-Bomb who held his own against Red Hulk was flat out ripped in half by Sentry, the Hulk at his strongest had to exert himself in order to beat Sentry, and Thor who one shotted a version of the Thing who destroyed Red Hulk with no difficulty, heck Red Hulk knew he was nothing to Thor and prepared to fight him so he would have the odds stacked in his favor. You have no evidence to suggest that it was a "young watcher" when it was flat out stated in the first panel of issue 6 of that run to be "The Watcher" also known as Utah, not being a fighter dose not change how durable you are and yes he was defeated https://images.app.goo.gl/eKmE5jGkgj7kTG8C6 and terrified of Rulk; so try again.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 11 mo 3 d
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Hulk @Dark_Wing I still never said you become a mindless brawler though. You just don't do things you'd normally think to do while getting punched in the face. Also I'm talking about the actual act of being punched itself, I'm not saying one punch and Thor becomes and savage now. You said it's not hard to make split second decisions then admitted it sometimes is. Point conceded. Throwing punches and/or holding onto your weapon is more instintive than letting it go. Thor's strengh is similar to savage Hulk anyway so it wasn't unreasonable for Thor to try and wrestle back the hammer. Hulk just got stronger. It's hard to take you seriously if you think a trained warrior drops his weapon at a moemnts notice of being in danger. Your overthinking this.

I've already said I don't remember Red Hulk beating Sentry so you don't need to argue something that I haven't commented on. Technically World War Hulk isn't Hulk at his strongest and he was still holing back quite a bit still. I said I believed it to be a young Watcher, I don't care enough to go through the whole comic again just to confirm that. However he does look quite young in that link.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 19 d
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Thor Oh, sorry for the late reply, I've replied on the PIS fights in comics page but you never responded so I'll reply here:

Well that's what you're implying.

"You just don't do things you'd normally think to do while getting punched in the face"

Come on man is it really hard to read a single Thor comic? He's continued to fight through much worse than a couple hits to the face.

"You said it's not hard to make split second decisions then admitted it sometimes is"

Concession not excepted because you clearly didn't read when I said "this isn't one if those "sometimes"" try again my friend.

"Throwing punches and/or holding onto your weapon is more instintive than letting it go."

"Throwing punches" hmm... why didn't Thor do that rather than just stand there and let it happen?

"Thor's strengh is similar to savage Hulk anyway so it wasn't unreasonable for Thor to try and wrestle back the hamme"

You're still forgetting that in the comic Thor and Hulk haven't even met prior which is why Thor underestimates him (which is BS since a seasoned warrior should know to never do that) so no, Thor's first experience with the Hulk was casually incapacitating him with three hits while being unharmed after Hulk throws a wrecking ball at him full force. So no, Thor has no reason to try that.

"It's hard to take you seriously if you think a trained warrior drops his weapon at a moemnts notice of being in danger"

And it's hard to even relate to someone who thinks Thor will casually just stand there and freaking let the Hulk beat him to near death. But alas what should I have expected from the person who thinks freaking General Grievous beats him or that his best strength feat is struggling to lift the Midgard Serpent (his best feat is pushing an engine that held up an infinite amount if universes). Again, there is absolutely no reason for what happened there to have happened period! And how many times do I have to say this: that was just ONE of the many examples of how Thor could have got out of that situation. Remember Thor (like all warriors) should be 💯 capable of fighting a disadvantage and still pulling off the win; meaning what happened in that comic should have been complete fodder to him especially when Hulk isn't known for his fighting skills. Now again explain how and why Thor would just stand there and let the Hulk hit him 4 times, I understand thinking he could have gotten one or two hits but FOUR is just unacceptable. Oh and remember for all Thor knew he could have been killed right there, this isn't a game, this is literally life or death on Thor's part for all he knew.

"Your overthinking it"

How is that? I'm just acknowledging the facts about both characters here.

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I'm well aware that Hulk was supposedly holding back but he clearly wasn't holding back as much as you think he was because he was A: visibly exerting himself B: left tired and bruised afterwards and C: unable to instantly turn the fight in his favor once he started losing. So yes Sentry is WWH level which puts him far above base Hulk, so yeah this still stands.

I find it funny that you can only two examples (one is clearly PIS which you'd know if you actually read Thor and the other is from a run that is LITERALLY KNOWN for PIS moments) in Thor's SEVENTY YEAR HISTORY! So no this ain't consistent neither is your tendency to use false equivalents like comparing boxers to warrior when they both have vastly different kinds of training and experiences.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 19 d
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Thor I still think we should keep this debate in one place or the other because right now we're both pretty much repeating the same stuff on both pages.
Dark_Wing
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Thor @Tyr: are you gonna reply here https://www.superherodb.com/pis-fights-in-comics/100-3997/ or here? Or read a Thor comic for once?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 18 d
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Thor Are you gonna reply? @Tyrannus
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Tyrannus
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Hulk I mean have you read a Hulk comic before because it sounds like you haven't?
It's easy to say why didn't Thor do certain things differently AFTER he's lost. I could say the very same things about Hulk whenever he loses.
Perhaps Thor didn't underestimate Hulk and still got overpowered.
As for why did Thor "let" himself get hit over and over, I could say the same whenever Thor does that to Hulk. I never said Thor's best feat was struggling to lift the midgard serpent I just used it as an example.
If you read Hulk comics you'd know superior fighting skills doesn't mean much as he still just overpowers you (e.g. Red Hulk, Abomination, Thor).
You are overthinking this because it's such a nitpicky thing to look at. Looking at why didn't Thor do this or that can be applied to anyone.

Amadeus claimed Hulk could have killed them all had he stopped holding back. Getting hurt doesn't mean he wasn't holding back. Hulk didn't want to fight his friend. This doesn't suddenly make Sentry above savage Hulk as Hulk gets stronger. WWH was holding back too so he was still above Sentry. Bare in mind savage Hulk fought stable Sentry, Ms Marvel and Moon Knight off while beating the latter two.

You can't keep claiming PIS whenever things don't go your way.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 17 d
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Thor Yes, I have. I've read WWH, HotM, Planet Hulk, Indestructible Hulk, etc.

"I could say the very same things about Hulk whenever he loses"

Oh, is the Hulk a veteran weapons master with thousands of years of training and combat experience who just stood there and let an enemy hit him with his own weapon? Thor losing is not what makes it PIS, it's why he couldn't do anything to stop himself from being beaten with his own hammer that makes it PIS.

"Perhaps Thor didn't underestimate Hulk and still got overpowered."

If he didn't underestimate Hulk then why wasn't he expecting him to get up?

"As for why did Thor "let" himself get hit over and over, I could say the same whenever Thor does that to Hulk"

When has Thor done that to the Hulk exactly?

"I never said Thor's best feat was struggling to lift the midgard serpent I just used it as an example."

Then why did you present it like it was? And why didn't you use a better example like him casually lifting the weight of 30 planets with one arm?

"If you read Hulk comics you'd know superior fighting skills doesn't mean much as he still just overpowers you (e.g. Red Hulk, Abomination, Thor)"

First of all Abomination is nothing more than a brawler, secondly I've already told you Thor brawls with Hulk because it's his idea of fun, and thirdly Red Hulk may be a tactical genius but the doesn't mean he's a veteran martial artist. Plz stop using false equivalents.

"it's such a nitpicky thing to look at."

How is question something that contradicts everything the characters is "overthinking" it?

"why didn't Thor do this or that can be applied to anyone."

Yeah but you're still overlooking how stupid this is (sorry I can't phrase it any other way) and I'm still not seeing reason for why Thor just let Hulk hit him?



"You can't keep claiming PIS whenever things don't go your way."

I. Never. Did! Heck I live by the principle that you can't call out PIS when you don't have any evidence to support it, thankfully I do have evidence: is PIS because it makes no freaking sense! Where else have I called stuff I didn't like PIS without giving reason? Don't bring up the high ground because I've already conceded that that was not PIS.

"Amadeus claimed Hulk could have killed them all had he stopped holding back"

I'm well aware he could have done that in Worldbreaker mode but he wasn't in Worldbreaker mode against Sentry (who could be argued to have been weakened during the fight tho I won't try that) nor anyone else he fought in that storyline.

"This doesn't suddenly make Sentry above savage Hulk as Hulk gets stronger"

He normally won't get to WWH level unless he has an emotional boost like he did in the storyline. And yes Hulk being unable to turn the tide of the fight in his favor is proof that even a mildly suppressed WWH would still be above base Savage Hulk.

"WWH was holding back too"

Wait! Who else was holding back?

"Bare in mind savage Hulk fought stable Sentry, Ms Marvel and Moon Knight off while beating the latter two"

When the heck did that happen?
Tyrannus
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Hulk Hulk isn't a veteran skilled fighter no but he is incredibly fast and gets stronger.
Thor thought he won when he had Hulk down. He slipped up. Happens to even the best of us.
Thor was literally hitting Hulk over and over in the very fight. I could say why didn't Hulk stop him.
I used the midgard serpent as an easier comparison.
Wrong. Abomination had military training before becoming a monster. Even when Thor really needs to beat Hulk he can't do it. Red Hulk does have fighting skills as he's told Hulk during their fights. He used to be a General. Stop denying or assuming things.
It doesn't contradict Thor. You just can't accept him losing. He lost because Hulk got stronger. Your claiming PIS now just because he lost.
Amadeus claimed he could have killed them all in NEW YORK meaning the whole time he was there. Hulk also backs this up.
WWH didn't want to fight Sentry. Sentry attacked him.
No one else was holding back except maybe She-Hulk.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 16 d
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Thor "Hulk isn't a veteran skilled fighter no but he is incredibly fast and gets stronger."

Okay, I still don't see how that should make him being unable to outmaneuver Thor PIS.

"Thor thought he won when he had Hulk down. He slipped up. Happens to even the best of us."

Now you concede he was caught off guard, boom makes this a cheap shot. I still don't understand 1: why he'd just let his guard down and 2: why once he realized Hulk was about to hit him, he didn't do anything. Though this is more believable so I'll accept it.

"Thor was literally hitting Hulk over and over in the very fight. I could say why didn't Hulk stop him."

I've already explained that. It's because at that point he neither had the speed nor strength to do anything about it and even if he did Thor is a highly skilled weapons expert and fighter so it makes sense. Plz stop making me repeat myself, it's almost painful for me.

"Abomination had military training before becoming a monster"

That doesn't mean the monster version of him will be a highly trained soldier, think Bruce Banner goes from one of the smartest people in the world to nothing more then an animal, while I'm well aware that Abomination keeps his intellect, I don't remember him actually using any fighting moves against Hulk. So...

"Even when Thor really needs to beat Hulk he can't do it."

When has he not been able to beat Hulk when he truly needed to?

"Red Hulk does have fighting skills as he's told Hulk during their fights. He used to be a General"

I'm well aware that he was a general but just like Abomination, how often does he use his fighting skills against Hulk?

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that Thor has proven to be physically superior and more skillful than both Abomination and Rulk so there failures don't mean Thor will fail the same way; that's what we like to call a "fallacy."

"It doesn't contradict Thor"

Yes. It. Does. It contradicts who he is by saying a weapons master of thousands of years of training and combat experience will just stand there and let Hulk hit him or let his guard down and be cheap shotted; neither of which makes any sense so I say to thee: stop denying things.

"You just can't accept him losing"

I've already explained why I know it's PIS and it's not because lost, plz try to remember why I said it was PIS in the first place.

"He lost because Hulk got stronger"

No, he lost because he just stood there and let the Hulk hit him. Did you not read Hulk: Let the Battle Begin?

"Your claiming PIS now just because he lost."

Any proof of that? I also find it funny that out of all the times Hulk could have been argued to have beaten Thor, I've only said two of them were PIS the first one being this one and the second being in a non canon comic in which Professor Hulk (a weaker version of Hulk) beats Warrior Madness Thor (a 10X amped Thor who wasn't holding back) and I have valid evidence for both. So no, I can except when he's loses just not when the loss contradicts who he is.

"Amadeus claimed he could have killed them all in NEW YORK meaning the whole time he was there"

Can I see the scan please? And how does it mean the whole time he was there? And you still haven't explained why Hulk couldn't turn the fight in his favor when for all he knew he could have been vaporized if Sentry didn't decide to stop and even if he did stop, he was left in his weakest form literally in the center of a battlefield.

"Hulk also backs this up. WWH didn't want to fight Sentry."

Well apparently he was perfectly okay with doing so that barley means anything.

"No one else was holding back except maybe She-Hulk."

Then why did you say "he was 'ALSO' holding back?"

What comic is that scan from?
Tyrannus
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Hulk If Hulk is faster he should be able to avoid Thor's attacks. He didn't because like Thor he isn't flawless.
That wasn't a cheap shot at all. Thor was literally facing Hulk on his knees. Thor had the power position and still lost it. No one's 100% perfect. Stop treating Thor like he's this flawless being.
Your making me repeat myself but it is what it is.
No Abomination's famous advantage over Hulk was his intellect which is why he beats Hulk first time round. However Hulk eventually gets stronger and beats him.
Thor hasn't been able to beat Hulk when he needs to in pretty much most of their fights.
Red Hulk uses his training almost every time he attacks Hulk. He was able to break his arm once because of it.
Hulk is different to Red Hulk and Abomination. It's what I like to call "different characters".
You keep twisting things. Thor didn't just stand there and take he beating. It happened suddenly because Hulk got faster and stronger. Stop acting like Thor was daydreaming.
Well to be honest Thor hasn't been able to properly defeat Hulk either. It does sound like you can't accept Thor losing because if I said the same about Hulk that makes me look bad.
I can't find the scan but it was in the comic When Titans Collide #1. @Breaker knows about this. Not sure if this picture will appear.

Hulk wasn't going to get vaporised by Sentry, his healing factor is too great. Hulk tries to persuade Sentry he doesn't want to do this and even while fighting he appeases Sentry. Banner wasn't weak, he Hulked out into WBH seconds later.
I'm not sure what you mean. Hulk was holding back.
Hulk Vol 2 #7-9.
Dark_Wing
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Thor "If Hulk is faster he should be able to avoid Thor's attacks."

Prove that he's faster!

"He didn't because like Thor he isn't flawless"

Now you're trying to argue that an animal and a seasoned warrior will just let themselves be beaten to death because "tHey aRe NoT pERfEcT" while that is true both of them are far form complete morons who will just let themselves be hit. I'm sorry my friend but it's hard to take you seriously if you actually think a living beings first response to being hit is to just stand there and let it happen.

"Thor was literally facing Hulk on his knees. Thor had the power position and still lost it."

He lost because he wasn't expecting Hulk to jump up like you've just said so no Hulk didn't really beat him fairly.

"No one's 100% perfect"

See my earlier point where I address this.

"Your making me repeat myself but it is what it is."

How am I making you repeat yourself?

"Thor didn't just stand there and take he beating. It happened suddenly because Hulk got faster and stronger"

Again: I'd understand if Hulk could only land one or two hits but he was able to land at least four which never made sense to me.

"No Abomination's famous advantage over Hulk was his intellect which is why he beats Hulk first time round."

Okay but just because Abomination failed doesn't mean Thor will also especially when Thor's been proven to be above both Abomination and Rulk. That's a completely fallacious claim.

"Thor hasn't been able to beat Hulk when he needs to in pretty much most of their fights."

Still not seeing individual examples of evidence for this.

"Red Hulk uses his training almost every time he attacks Hulk. He was able to break his arm once because of it."

(See point above about Abomination) and when did Rulk break Hulk's arm? If that did happen it kind of contradicts your argument that fighting skills will be useless against Hulk when Thor has proven superior to Rulk like I've said prior.

"Hulk is different to Red Hulk and Abomination. It's what I like to call "different characters"."

I could say the same for comparing Red Hulk and Abomination to Thor and saying Thor will fail for the same reasons they did; or better yet of you want to say that then we can also say that Hulk will fail at beating Thor because Thor takes on enemies just like him in a daily basis and has been for thousands of years!

"You keep twisting things"

How exactly?

"Thor didn't just stand there and take he beating"

Rephrase that plz.

"It does sound like you can't accept Thor losing because if I said the same about Hulk that makes me look bad."

Have I ever once said I had a problem with him losing the fight? I've always complained about "HOW" he lost it. In fact I'd rather see Thor (or any of my other favorite characters) 'LOSE' in a way that fits there character vs win in a way that contradicts who they are, even if Thor somehow beat Hulk with the win contradicting who he is, I'd still be whining about it.

"Not sure if this picture will appear."

Scan didn't show up. Oh, as for what Cho said: Hulk and Sentry's fight almost destroyed everyone there and that was when Hulk was holding back which further proves that he wasn't holding back too much.

"Hulk wasn't going to get vaporised by Sentry, his healing factor is too great."

I was referring to Banner, not Hulk. Banner had no way of surviving Sentry's onslaught in base form and Sentry said that he had completely lost control and couldn't stop.

Banner wasn't weak he went Worldbreaker"

He only went Worldbreaker after Rick was stabbed, otherwise he wouldn't have became Hulk again.

"Hulk was holding back"

I know but I'm saying not as much as you think he was.

Now I have a question right now: would you still think this was valid if it was a different warrior character like Optimus Prime, Wonder Woman, Xena, Hercules (Marvel version), or even if it was Captain America with Mjolnir standing in Thor's place during this? Heck if it was Yoda (who's combat training and battlefield experience is far inferior to Thor's and he has less than a third of said training and going on missions with the only real war he was in being the Clone Wars which still pales in comparison to Thor's life and the enemies his fought) standing in Thor's place, would this still be valid in your eyes?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 14 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Hulk Hulk's fast enough to keep up with Thor.
It's hard to take you seriously because you can't accept Thor's loss. You keep going from one extreme to the other. Thor isn't perfect and he doesn't turn into a savage either.
Of course Hulk beat him fairly. Thor was literally facing Hulk. Your denial of his loss sums you up.
You don't see me questioning how Thor was able to land multiple hits on Hulk either. This is such a small point.
You were the one who brought up Abomination.
See my previous answer for examples of Hulk beating Thor and the Avengers.
Red Hulk breaking Hulk's arm doesn't contradict me because Red Hulk still loses.
You twist things because you make it out like Thor was clueless the whole fight. Thor's loss wasn't surprising.
It does look like you can't accept Thor loss given that there wasn't much out of the ordinary here.
Just because Hulk and Sentry's fight nearly destroyed the earth doesn't suddenly mean Hulk wasn't holding back much. Don't assume.
Banner didn't appear until after he beat Sentry.
Banner going WBH means he was still ready to Hulk out.
If any of those people wielded mjolnir I still would have said what I said because no one is flawless. You can't really compare Yoda's training to Thor's given how different their universes are.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 12 d
Thor vs Hulk
2 year member
Thor "Hulk's fast enough to keep up with Thor."

Not until he gets angry. He wasn't too angry at that point, heck he was struggling against the Wrecking Crew of all people, so it makes sense that he couldn't keep up with Thor at that point. Oh, I forgot to mention that Thor didn't have a reason to hold back against hulk and casually downed him in three hits! So...

"It's hard to take you seriously because you can't accept Thor's loss"

How many times am I gonna have to explain why I hate this and KNOW it's PIS? The reason I hate it: It contradict his character because it acts like he would underestimate his opponent and lose all fighting ability from being hit in the face once (which I've disproven). If what you say is true, Thor is a terrible fighter, and we know that's not true, bad writing does exist, inconsistencies and plot holes do as well. Think if he truly made that noob mistake then why he considered Asgard's best warrior? Oh, and every encounter before and after this battle and every story Thor and Hulk have been in both together and separately IN OF THEMSELVES contradicts what happened in that comic! Now plz explain how "not being perfect" now equals what happened in that comic? Your only arguments are 1: real life logic which has been debunked and 2: the fallacious assumption that someone not being perfect equals consistently making baby's first mistakes on the battlefield. I ask you if Thor was truly like this the how the he'l has he even survived all the battles he's been in? By your logic would a scientist now miss a basic math problem like 1+1 because "hE's NoT pErFeCt?" This is the last time I'll repeat myself on this so please read it and address EVERY SINGLE POINT in this little essay before going to assumptions because I am not repeating this! Oh, and explain to my why it's so hard for you to except facts.

"You keep going from one extreme to the other"

I've already explained why.

"Of course Hulk beat him fairly. Thor was literally facing Hulk"

I find it funny and hypocritical that you don't even know what a cheapshot is; a cheapshot is and I quote here: "an act of deliberate roughness against a defenseless opponent" ie if the Thor victories you don't like are called cheap shots because of fallacious reasoning then this also counts because Thor clearly was "defenseless opponent" here since he clearly wasn't expecting Hulk to just jump at him. I bring this up because you seem to not know what a cheapshot really is, by your logic if I maneuvered behind Mike Tyson and then hit him a couple of times in the back during a boxing match that would be a cheapshot meanwhile if I was just casually talking to him and out of the blue punched him that would not count as a cheapshot. Make up your mind my friend.

"Your denial of his loss sums you up."

PROVE THAT IM IN DENILE RIGHT NOW!!! And explain how it sums me up?

"You don't see me questioning how Thor was able to land multiple hits on Hulk either"

I've already explained why that makes perfect sense; need me to repeat it?

"Red Hulk breaking Hulk's arm doesn't contradict me because Red Hulk still loses."

Yes it does, you said fighting skill won't work on the Hulk but this proves that it would and that example comes from someone weaker than Hulk, imagine if the opponent is a superior fighter then Red Hulk and is at bare minimum comparable to the Hulk. Hmm.

"You twist things because you make it out like Thor was clueless the whole fight."

Either he was clueless or he make the warriors equivalent to being unable to answer 1+1; you deside. Also I could say the same about you especially when you claim Thor's victories over the Hulk are "cheapshots" because you don't like them.

"It does look like you can't accept Thor loss given that there wasn't much out of the ordinary here."

See above ⬆️

"Just because Hulk and Sentry's fight nearly destroyed the earth doesn't suddenly mean Hulk wasn't holding back much"

I never said Hulk wasn't holding back, I said he wasn't holding back "AS MUCH" as you think he was; him being exhausted and forced back into his base form are proof of this.

"Don't assume."

Funny and hypocritical coming from you.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 12 d
Thor vs Hulk
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Thor "Banner didn't show up until Hulk beat Sentry"

Actually they both turned back to there base forms literally at the exact same time https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-19.jpg, the difference was Hulk was visibly tiring out https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-13.jpg while Sentry said he was just getting stated https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-15.jpg and [url]https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/world-war-hulk-vs-the-sentry-16.jpg[url] which all further solidifies what I was saying: for all Hulk knew he could have been killed right in that very moment and was unable to use his strength to turn the fight in his favor.

"Banner going WBH means he was still ready to Hulk out."

You're still forgetting that he spent a few minutes as Banner and only went Worldbreaker once Rick was stabbed, even then that Worldbreaker was so weakened that he was taken down by a few satellites.

"If any of those people wielded mjolnir I still would have said what I said because no one is flawless."

For the last time: you don't have to be flawless to escape that situation especially when you're a warrior on Thor's level going up against someone who has no combat training and merely coasts on his own strength (see above in this comment since I will not repeat myself). I have a better example of this: if the Flash lost to a common streat thug because he tripped over his own feat and broke his arm, would thst not count as PIS? Batman randomly made a baby's first mistake and was incapacitated by an average thug, would that not count as PIS? If Green Lantern's ring suddenly slipped off for no apparent reason leaving him stranded in space, would that not count as PIS? If you're answer is it would count as PIS to all of these then what makes Thor's instance so different? And if you say yes to it then it'll be pretty hard to take you seriously then.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 11 d
Thor vs Hulk
1 year member
Hulk Hulk has been able to keep up with Thor every time they fight. He's even dodged and outrun mjolnir. Your right, Thor didn't have a reason to hold back against Hulk and yet he still lost because Hulk got stronger.
Like I've tried telling you many times, Thor isn't perfect. He makes mistakes. I'm not saying he's an idiot either, don't jump the gun. Just because he didn't make any mistakes before doesn't make him exempt afterwards. It looked like Thor has won so it's not unreasonable for him to not expect Hulk's attack. You keep assuming Thor is either flawless or an idiot which isn't the case.
Lol you call Thor armed with mjolnir facing Hulk on his knees a "defenceless opponent"? You helped me out there.
Your in denial because it just looks like you can't accept that Hulk beat Thor. Your main point is that Thor should be immune to making mistakes and even then it wasn't that bad. Hulk overpowered. End of.
Fighting skills still didn't amount to much because Hulk still resoundingly beat Red Hulk. He just gets stronger to the point where it don't matter.
I've never said all of Thor's wins are cheap shots. Don't assume (again). Also don't just accuse me of the same thing just because you don't like what you hear.
Hulk didn't look tired. He was reluctant about fighting Sentry but not tired. Again assumptions.
Banner wasn't Banner for long and when he went WBH he allowed himself to be stopped because he was going to destroy the world. Those examples are quite different here and don't relate. Batman getting hit by a thug wouldn't be PIS though as he's not perfect either.
I mean your saying it's hard to take me seriously when the main example your contesting isn't even PIS and actually makes sense. To summarise Thor beat down Hulk and thought he won. Hulk got stronger and overpowered him. End of story.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 9 d
Thor vs Hulk
2 year member
Thor "Hulk has been able to keep up with Thor every time they fight. He's even dodged and outrun mjolnir"

Where has he dodged Mjolnir? If he did prove that Thor threw it at full speed. And I've already proved that Thor was toying with him.

"Your right, Thor didn't have a reason to hold back against Hulk and yet he still lost because Hulk got stronger."

You're ignoring how he lost, he lost because he let his guard down which you've already said, not because he surpassed him or anything like that. In fact this is more evidence of Thor playing with Hulk because Hulk was much angrier than he normally is because of the six vs one with the Wrecking Crew which lasted an entire afternoon yet despite this Thor casually outmaneuvered and lauded down Hulk in just five hits without visibly putting much effort into it. And if PIS was off he would have turned the fight back in his favor once Hulk grabbed his arm.

"Like I've tried telling you many times, Thor isn't perfect. He makes mistakes."

Now you're trying to tell me he makes babies first mistakes on the battlefield? Again by that logic he's a terrible fighter and begs the question of how he managed to survive all the battles he's been in in the first place which you have yet to answer. I keep trying to tell you that but you're either too stubborn to listen or purposely dodging that point because you have no counter for it. Now please address it for once and explain or just except the truth that every sane person has excepted! And again I don't expect Thor to be perfect, I accept him to be better than making what is for all intents and purposes the warrior's equivalent to forgetting the answer to 1+1 especially within a context in which for all Thor knew he could have been killed.

"It looked like Thor has won so it's not unreasonable for him to not expect Hulk's attack"

I understand that but are you seriously telling me that out of the hundreds of thousands if not millions of battles Thor's been in he's never encountered someone who would try that cheap trick on him? Come on again if Thor made that mistake I guess he's a terrible fighter which we know isn't true. Also you still haven't explained why he couldn't get out of that situation once Hulk grabbed his arm; are your really telling me that Hulk, someone with absolutely no H2H skills can outperform Thor, someone who has thousands of years of training and battlefield experience?

"You keep assuming Thor is either flawless or an idiot which isn't the case."

I don't feel like explaining myself again because YOU are the one in denial that your least favorite character is better than you make him out to be.


"Lol you call Thor armed with mjolnir facing Hulk on his knees a "defenceless opponent"?"

He was only defenseless because he wasn't focused on Hulk and thought he won. Also if you want to say that then I can say the fallowing: you call Hulk charging at Thor full speed "defenseless" because you constantly call the Thor victory you don't like a cheapshot out of bias against him when I've already proven it wasn't a cheapshot. This reminds me to ask you why the he'l is the only way to beat Hulk fairly to directly hit him in the front while you count anytime the Hulk hits Thor even when he's distracted a cheapshot? I call out hypocrisy!


"You helped me out there."

How so?

"Your in denial"

You've yet to prove that!

"it just looks like you can't accept that Hulk beat Thor."

Is that why this is the only Hulk victory I've mentioned the fact about? For the last time: I have no problem with Thor losing it's 'HOW' he lost! And you haven't noted that this is the only Thor loss in his SEVENTY YEAR history that I've questioned and even then I've never whined about Thor losing, I sinned about how it happened because it makes no freaking sense.

"Your main point is that Thor should be immune to making mistakes"

No, my main point is Thor should not be making baby's first mistakes on the battlefield.

"even then it wasn't that bad."

Okay how high is your IQ? I honestly want to know that because what Thor did was literally the stupidest mistake one could make in that situation and again for all Thor knew he could have been killed meaning he should have not let his guard down and if he did he should have had no problem turning the fight back in his favor once Hulk grabbed his arm or at bare minimum been able to stop that from happening.


"Hulk overpowered"

Quit freaking saying that!

"Fighting skills still didn't amount to much because Hulk still resoundingly beat Red Hulk"

Rulk's failings don't make Hulk immune to skill as I've already proven.

"I've never said all of Thor's wins are cheap shots"

Hulk Annual 2001: am I a joke to you.

"Also don't just accuse me of the same thing just because you don't like what you hear."

Just scroll up. You just repeat crap that I've debunked!

"Hulk didn't look tired. He was reluctant about fighting Sentry but not tired. Again assumptions."

It's not an assumption, look at the freaking scan before accusing me of crap that you do yourself.

"Banner wasn't Banner for long"

But he was still in his base form for a few minutes, more than enough time for van out of control Sentry to vaporize.

"Those examples are quite different here and don't relate"

How, exactly?
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 9 mo 9 d
Thor vs Hulk
2 year member
Thor "Batman getting hit by a thug wouldn't be PIS though as he's not perfect either."

Did you not read what I said? "Batman tripping over his cape and being beaten up by a thug, would that not count as PIS." And do you not have The brain capacity to understand that what happened in my analogy is literally baby's first mistakes and someone on Thor or Batman's skill level shouldn't be making these mistakes because they are far beyond that. Understand or do I have to explain for the one trillionth time?

"I mean your saying it's hard to take me seriously"

That's because it is.

"when the main example your contesting isn't even PIS and actually makes sense."

How many times am I gonna have to explain this to you before you freaking realize it?!?!. And you have yet to prove that it makes sense (it probably does for someone who doesn't know crap about Thor).

"Hulk got stronger and overpowered him."

Why do you keep using the word "overpowered" when thats not at all what happened. And Thor only lost because he was caught off guard
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 9 mo 7 d
Thor vs Hulk
1 year member
Hulk
Thor was going all out here so that itself debunks your "toying" argument.
Thor had the power position and still lost because Hulk overpowered him. If it's somehow PIS then Thor shouldn't have been able to beat down Hulk like he did. You can't pick and choose what's PIS.
For some reason you assume Thor's either perfect or he's a baby now. Stop going to extremes. He's never fought someone like Hulk. No one else but you have called this PIS. Your being stubborn in not accepting this L.
Lol your being saltly now by claiming Thor's my least favourite. He's in my top 10 and for a long time he was my favourite Avenger.
Thor was literally staring at Hulk when Hulk attacked. Even then Hulk retaliated almost immediatly after so it's not like the heat of battle calmed down. I've already dismantled that "hypocrisy" claim. You helped me because you tried to prove Thor was cheap shotted but even the official definition disagrees.
Your in denial because just as Thor loses you can't accept it. Name a Hulk win your OK with?
So Hulk doing what he usually does and me pointing that out makes you question my IQ? Yeah just think about what you said.
Does Hulk Annual 2001 contain every Hulk vs Thor fight ever? And you question my IQ.
Sentry was defeated when Banner came so that makes no sense.
Losing to the Hulk is a baby mistake? You don't know Hulk do you?
I speaks facts. Your biased and your resorting to insults as you lose.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 26 d
Thor vs Hulk
2 year member
Thor Scan doesn't work.

"Thor was going all out here"

I'm assuming you mean in that scan that doesn't work; plz try again.

"Thor had the power position and still lost"

A power position means nothing if you're not prepared to use it.

"because Hulk overpowered him"

No he surprised him which you can see in the scan https://ibb.co/1zv6110 you yourself said that he was caught off guard earlier in this debate; don't change your views just to win an argument and try to be consistent!

"If it's somehow PIS then Thor shouldn't have been able to beat down Hulk like he did."

I've already explained why that made perfect sense and you've yet to contest that so either get lost or if you want to count that then we atomically get to say Thor letting himself be hit is also PIS.

"For some reason you assume Thor's either perfect or he's a baby now"

Are you freaking paying any attention to this debate? I'm not saying he's perfect, I'm saying he should not make baby's "FIRST MISTAKES" on the battlefield like letting your guard down! If you think that's anything other than a baby's first mistake then at least you've proven you've never been in a fight before.

"He's never fought someone like Hulk."

Kruse, Rock Monsters, Ice Giants, basically anyone else who is both a monster and nothing more than a brawler.

"No one else but you have called this PIS."

Your brothers on Quora, guys on ComicVine, guys in the comments section on YouTube, most of the Thor fan base literally have insulted the author of the comic (for good reason mind you), and basically anyone who has an IQ except the fact.

"He's in my top 10 and for a long time he was my favourite Avenger."

. All jokes aside I don't believe for one second that Thor isn't your least favorite given your lack of knowledge on him and how you constantly give him double standards cause you don't want to see him win.

"Even then Hulk retaliated almost immediatly after so it's not like the heat of battle calmed down"

Then why did he let his guard down then like I've already proven?

"I've already dismantled that "hypocrisy" claim"

Actually you didn't and I have proof of this claim in the form of this: you say don't assume yet you also assume all the time, you say "don't insult people" yet you did just that to my friend EmptyHand when you said that nobody likes him, and you yell at me for repeating myself yet you are doing the exact same thing! If I have time to think I could find more but I don't feel like doing that right now.

"Thor was cheap shotted but even the official definition disagrees."

Okay, pardon my choice of English but the word I meant was Thor was "surprise attacked." Definition: "a sudden attack without warning against an unsuspecting opponent." That's the word I meant and it 💯 precent fits what happened here.

"Name a Hulk win your OK with?"

Immortal Hulk #4. Now name a Thor win you're okay with! Still think I'm "in denial" because you can't contest me?

"Does Hulk Annual 2001 contain every Hulk vs Thor fight ever"

That was just ONE of the examples I have, you've also said Thor the Reigning, Fear Itself, and Breaking Into Comics the Marvel Way are "not proper" out o pure bias against Thor.

"Sentry was defeated when Banner came so that makes no sense"

Did you even read that comic? . Quit lying and acknowledge what happened in the comic if anything what you said makes no sense especially when I've read that comic far to many times to count.

"Losing to the Hulk is a baby mistake?"

ARE YOU EVEN PAYING ATTENTION!?!?! Letting your guard down in the baby's mistake! Either concede, stop replying, or actually pay attention next time!

"Your biased"

You've yet to prove that!

"I speak facts"

Since when did Your biased Headcanon become fact"
"your resorting to insults as you lose"

Okay, I'm sorry for the IQ thing, in fact the reason I took a 10 day break from this debate was to cool off, plz forgive me. Anyways, I love how you draw attention to that because you don't have a rebuttal for your debunked fallacious claims. If anything you're losing because I've written entire essays while you're just repeating the same crap. Oh and by claiming I'm in denial you're also resorting to insults!
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 25 d
Thor vs Hulk
1 year member
Hulk 1. Thor was prepared to use his power position. Your just looking for reasons now to explain Thor's loss. Thor never says he was caught off guard.
2. You've never addressed how Thor was able to hit Hulk all those times but suddenly if Hulk retaliates it's PIS.
3. Your still either saying Thor shouldn't be hit at all or he's a baby. Stop going to extremes.
4. Out of Kruse, Rock Monsters and Ice Giants which one can increase there strength with rage?
5. Quora can be quite biased like I've said before, never seen it on comicvine and YouTube comments is full of nothing but fanboys. These Thor fans who had to threaten the writer just because they can't accept their idol losing is quite sad and hurts your own point.
6. https://www.superherodb.com/forum/who-is-your-1-favorite-character-/100-2852/ I'm sorry you were saying.
7. Thor didn't let his guard down, Hulk overpowered him. It's so simple
8. I've called you out repeatedly for your assumptions and will continue to do so don't worry. EmptyHand and I have seen cleared the air and we're actually good friends now. Again you assumed. I have to repeat myself because you don''t listen and keep calling PIS. Take the L
9. Thor gets a win in Hulk Annual 2001.
10. No bias against Thor. Stop reflecting.
11. You claimed Sentry could have killed Banner but Sentry was depowering at that point. It helps to read your own replies too.
12. Well you are kind of biased because you admitted you don't like Hulk but Thor's your favourite.
13. More insults. Nice
14. I've used no insults. You write unnecessary essays because your looking for new reasons to explain something you don't want to admit.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 24 d
Thor vs Hulk
2 year member
Thor 1: this scan proves that Thor was surprised https://ibb.co/1zv6110 and not expecting Hulk to jump up! You have absolutely ZERO evidence to suggest Thor even tried to fight back if anything the scan itself disproves of that claim. I mean does it even look like he's trying to fight back in that scan? In an interview the author of said comic said the fallowing and I quote here: "No! It has NEVER happened to him before. He has never even considered that it could! And at the time it happens he has the UPPER HAND in the fight! Hulk is down and bleeding and he goes to finish him off and Hulk CATCHES HIS HAND! He is stunned for a second and Hulk takes advantage of that and bashes him in the face a few times." So no in the words of the writer himself Thor was no prepared to use his power position and wasn't overpowered! See ⬅️ proof that my claim was right. Now please either provide evidence of Thor expecting that or stop assuming stuff you can't prove! The author would then go on to say "it has no direct consequence on current Hulk or Thor stories" meaning that Hulk's victory here is pretty much unusable. Oh and the author said the reason Hulk won was because the plot needed him to ergo PIS. "Thor never says he was caught off guard." Bruh, you don't just say "I was caught off guard" the point of being caught off guard is you're not expecting it, I'm not sure what you mean by that. And you wonder why I questioned how smart you were, it's because of claims like that. You reddy to except facts or need more convincing?
2: Hulk retaliating is not the PIS part, it's the fact that Thor didn't try to fight back which makes it PIS. Plz try to actually pay attention, again! And provide evidence for Thor beating him up being "PIS" right now!
3: I've already explained why that's not the case and don't feel like repeating myself.
4: no but that's pretty much Hulk only wildcard other than that Kurse and Mangog are just improvements on the Hulk. Oh, and Mangog can also increase his strength through rage he drawls from others which further cements him as an improvement of the Hulk and freaking Unworthy Thor scales to Jane Thor who beat Mangog and Thor himself personally killed Mangog in Thor #25 by Dan Jurgens!
5: I didn't say those Thor fans who attacked the author were right, now did I? No it doesn't hurt my point nor weaken by argument because I'm not them nor do I approve of any of the actions those fanboys commit the only reason I brought it up was because you said I was the only one who said it's PIS which is 💯 precent untrue. Also those guys didn't threaten the writer, they just called him a Hulk fanboy which is very believable if you've actually read the comic through the eyes of a Thor fan. And while they may be a little bias at least they have the brain capacity to acknowledge one of the biggest outliers in the history of comic books.
6: actions speak louder than words my friend.
7: see point one. Also you yourself said he did so try to be at least somewhat consistent.
8: why would I listen to crap I've debunked that you keep repeating? Name me a single point I haven't debunked. I've already explained the difference between the warriors equivalent of missing 1+1 happing based on him "not being perfect and the notion that being hit in the face once would somehow hamper his ability to fight. See above ⬆️
9: thanks for once!
10: if there's no bias against Thor then why have you denied Thor's victories over Hulk with the lamest excuses? Now answer the question: any Thor win you're okay with? Plz answer that rather than accusing me of reflecting!
11: he only started depowering after Hulk was starting to tire and he was only depowering because he himself chose to like I've proven above wheras Hulk was also visibly being forced back into his base form. Talking down Sentry was basically Hulk's last attempt to calm him down out of desperation. Plz acknowledge the reason both heroes were depowering and when it happened.
12: I did I don't even like the Hulk "THAT MUCH," I do find plenty of enjoyment out of his comics and stories. Just because I don't l like someone too much doesn't automatically mean I'm instantly bias against him. I've voted Hulk over Jean Grey (who is within my top three favorite characters in all of fiction), Yoda, Wonder Woman (who is my favorite DC character tied with the Flash), etc, the point is I'm not atomically a Hulk hater and I'm not nearly as bias against him as you think I am. In fact the only reason I mentioned that was to prove that I do read comics outside of my favorite characters.
14: look at what I just wrote "and by claiming I'm in denial you're also resorting to insults." And I'd say claiming I don't read comics is just as bad as an insult and I've already disproven the essence out of it. Now prove that they're unnecessary.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 22 d
Thor vs Hulk
1 year member
Hulk A lot of this is just repeated stuff so there's no need to reply twice
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 21 d
Thor vs Hulk
2 year member
Thor 😡 OH, CRAP 😡!!! That's because I made a very big mistake! The way I write my comments is by writing them in my notes and then copying and pasting them into the add comment box. This is relevant because I accidentally posted the same comment twice rather than the two different comments that were originally supposed to be posted. The way you can fix that is by copying your comment that you wrote up there and pasting it down here, I've already edited my last comment up in our second debate to be what it originally was so you can write your rebuttal to it up there. Does this make sense? If so will you do it or how else do you plan of fixing it?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 8 mo 21 d
Thor vs Hulk
1 year member
Hulk I suggest we just leave it there. It's gotten too confusing and it's hard having to keep scrolling down. We'll renew our debate next time the topic comes up.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 21 d
Thor vs Hulk
2 year member
Thor Then what should I do with my other list of debunks for you? We can't just leave it and forget an unfinished debate.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 8 mo 18 d
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Thor 1:  i'll let you count that as long as you acknowledge one thing: that it's an inaccurate representation of Thor's abilities and just because it happened once doesn't mean it'll happen again. How the heck is it not PIS if the write (the person who created the book in the first place) says it is!? And when the heck has an author said any one of Thor's wins were PIS? I honestly want to see that. Because I can conformably say it doesn't and you just made that up. Also you forgot my rebuttal to what you said two comments ago! Which was about Hulk Smash Avengers, I'm not sure why you posted a rebuttal to Hulk Let the Battle Begin when this first point was about a different comic. I'll post that same essay again if need be.
2: I know but it still happens and it still needs to be stopped by someone. Who is that someone? That's right the God of Thunder himself the Mighty Thor. Hulk has proven that he is much more dangerous than even an enraged Thor which is why the Illuminati (many of which being Banner's friends and all of them being the smartest minds on Earth) felt the need to send him into space; did they ever feel the need to do that to Thor? Ofc not because comparing Hulk's dangerousness to Thor's is like comparing a firecracker to a supernova. I just love how you keep acting like him wanting to be left alone is somehow a hindrance when it's really not as it gives him reason to beat Thor down and unlike Thor, Hulk has the ability to beat people without killing them meaning that he has no reason not to just go ham on Thor while Thor can't do the same for obvious reasons. Are you seriously trying to argue that Hulk speed blitzed Thor?! Hulk's never done that before and never done so since. Come on my friend it seems like you're now just trying to escape the FACT that even the authors admit.
4: can Hulk just rip apart the Destroyer Armor with absolutely no difficulty? Keep in mind that armor can swap hands with OF Thor who is stronger than Odin, Because Mangog can _Death of the Mighty Thor! Mangog can just ignore Thor's most powerful lightning which was able to knock the Hulk out in one casual hit https://imgur.com/dpF4lxa. And I know for a FACT that Hulk can't just toss Thor around like a doll the way Mangog can!
5: you do realize that to overpower someone that someone would have to be fighting back right? And you NEVER ONCE proven that Thor was even trying to fight back at that point! I've even debunked that notion yet you still believe it for some reason! Quit repeating yourself when you don't have a rebuttal! And find some freaking evidence to support thy nonsensical claims! Do you even know what evidence is?
6: you claim you love Thor but you're willing to create double standards for him, act like he has no chance when in actuality he wins, insist that him making baby's first mistakes is valid, deny what authors say about him, use real life logic to lowball him, etc. The notion that Hulk is allowed to hit him off guard while Thor isn't aloud to do the same is the double standard. I've already given examples in my last comment of me voting characters I hate over Thor and voting Hulk over characters I love and I have no problem giving more.
7: I did answer you in my earlier point and I'm not repeating it twice in the same comment. You started off saying that Thor was caught off guard then you immediately changed your argument to one of assumption and contradiction of the comic itself for no reason whatsoever.
10: yes you do and here's the example: 1: you've denied Thor the Reigning by saying it's an erased timeline but it's only an erased timeline, 2: you've denied Hulk Annual 2001 simply because of the angle Thor's lightning hit him, and 3:you've denied Fear Itself with the excuse that Hulk wasn't himself; of course he wasn't himself, he was literally an improvement on himself!
11: yes Sentry can make Hulk turn back to his base. Why would Hulk want to power down and be left vulnerable in the MIDDLE OF A FREAKING BATTLEFIELD?! Also you're ignoring how A: Sentry was just having fun and not really being serious and B: Hulk was pretty much losing until he tried to talk him down.
14: that doesn't mean I automatically don't know who he is, if anything it means I do have knowledge on him because I'm able to lowball him.
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Tyrannus
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Hulk Bro I wanted to leave this debate because it was getting confusing having 2 big debates. It would have been better with one. Like Hulk, I was happy to leave once I was winning.

1. Why would a writer call his own comic PIS? Not sure what you meant but I never make things up.
I'm not going to be able to answer everything because I don't know the context.
2. Hulk doesn't attack without cause. He never attacks Thor if he can just leave. It's why he leaves mid battle many times. Also you made my point. Why should Thor be sent to defeat Hulk (not that he could) when Hulk was an Avenger and friend of many people? He gets treated like a villain and then people get surprised when he beats them all down. But your right in that Hulk is a supernova compared to Thor being a firecracker. Hulk got angrier and overpowered Thor. That's it. Thor claimed he was better so Hulk put him straight.
4. Still waiting for you to answer my first question instead of dodging it.
5. Thor doesn't have to be punching back literally at the same time Hulk was. Most people don't do that. You think you've debunked that but ignore me when I show you how it makes no sense. I'm shocked your even trying to dodge this loss.
6. Never said Thor has no chance but I guess your getting desperate at this point so you have to lie or assume. Stop calling Thor a baby. And you say I don't like Thor. The double standards can be reversed on you. So Thor's allowed to hit Hulk uninterrupted but Hulk can't? Your the one claiming I don't like Thor even though he was my #1 for most my life.
8. I have actually admitted Thor's win in Hulk Annual 2001 I just said it was a cheap shot. I've changed my stance on Fear Itself after reading it again and found Hulk wasn't defeated, just BFR.
11. Because Hulk didn't want to fight Sentry in the first place, he was his friend. He told Sentry to be whoever he wanted. Sentry wasn't having fun he wanted to win. In what world was Hulk losing? Everything Sentry threw at him, Hulk dished right back. The lowball is real.
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Galactus
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Thor If we all vote your way, it's still one sided.
DeanDinosaur6
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Thor But more people think Thor wins. What if all of the people think Thor barely wins. Just more people vote Thor.
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Mxyzptlk
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Thor Superman >hulk >thor
Tyrannus
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Hulk I'm shocked.
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Dark_Wing
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Thor He's never beaten Thor fairly.
Tyrannus
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Hulk Neither has Thor
Dark_Wing
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Thor How many times am I gonna have to disprove that?
Tyrannus
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Hulk You never have
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captainthor985 1 y 1 mo 19 d
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Thor @DarkProdigy Can u increase Odins strength and speed and durability
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Jongensoden
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Thor irrelevant
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captainthor985 1 y 1 mo 19 d
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Thor His way more powerful than hulk
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Jongensoden
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Thor No hulk is stronger and fast enough to Dodge mjolnir
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captainthor985 1 y 1 mo 19 d
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Thor I really don't like that they decreased Thor's powers
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DarkProdigy
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Thor We got rid of Odin Force which belongs to this page
https://www.superherodb.com/thor-odin-force/10-13965/
HolyJoe
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Thor @DarkProdigy Can you give Hellboy these posers and abilities please?

Agility
Berserk Mode
Danger Sense
Endurance
Immortality
Reflexes
Regeneration
Super Speed

Also, can you make his durability and power 100?
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Hulk Why Hulk power increased?
Tyrannus
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Hulk @Chester123 Because Hulk only gets stronger and overcomes his opponents
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Hulk Current Savage Hulk is Immortal!
PhoenixForce5
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Thor Thor stomps
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Jongensoden
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Thor Nah hard fight hulk
Dark_Wing
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Thor Changing my vote to even it up a bit. I still think Thor while not holding back stomps the Hulk with ease but most of the lore paints them as equals and even the writers think they're equals besides Thor will always hold back against the Hulk that's just who he is!
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Hulk Hulk holds back the vast majority of the time, just as Thor does. If they didn't, they're wreck Earth. The handful of instances in which Hulk hasn't held back where when Mindless Hulk was trapped in the Crossroads, or when Hulk unloaded on Onslaught! He Take hits from a Thor not holding back [The Incredible Hulk #300]:
https://i.imgur.com/DxzfD81.png
Dark_Wing
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Thor You mean Banner subconsciously suppresses the Hulk entity as shown in the Heart of the Monster story? Those feats (Onslaught, destroying the Dark Dimension, and creating shockwaves that shook an infinite number of dimensions) only happened with Mindless Hulk and he won't be able to do those normally. That hit from not holding back Thor sent him flying which isn't nearly as impressive as tanking the attack head on though it's still impressive. (This last part is a joke bty) and damaging Onslaught isn't even impressive since Captain America could damage him.
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Superoneaboveallprime
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Thor Are we talking original Hulk and Thor or both their best forms of power?
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Dark_Wing
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Thor There normal forms ie what there most often portrayed as.
Superoneaboveallprime
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Thor Good fight indeed both ways. Even at their best versions, vote still on the Rune King.
Breaker
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Hulk @dark_wing
wasn't enough when base* hulk kick Warrior Madness Thor ? lol
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goldbergcortez 1 y 4 mo 3 d
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Hulk Thor and hulk have fought multiple times and hulk have came out on top more times than Thor.
TheOne2001
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Thor Thor wins.
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Oblivion
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Thor Yep
The_Golden_Rage
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Hulk The Golden Rage knows that rage is truly powerful
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Dark_Wing
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Thor Rage ain't comparable to the Odin Force.
Goldenguardianofgood
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Thor Hulk may be powerful, but he's not on Thor's level. Not even world breaker hulk could take down Thor. I love hulk, but Thor is more powerful. Thor and hulk fought off planet, and Thor basically took him down with ease.
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Goldenguardianofgood
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Thor Dark wing, I believe in one instance it took place in Incredible Hulk annual 2001, he called lightning down and one shot him. Another instance, he sent nul aka hulk, flying into space during fear itself if memory serves me right.
Goldenguardianofgood
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Thor Breaker, I love the hulk. I think hes one of the best comic characters in marvel. World breaker hulk could not take on Thor unleashed. Idk what world breaker is? Dude I own the world war hulk series and Greg paks run of hulk which is one of the best series of hulk. Thor is able to fight and stalemate silver surfer. Please tell me you don't think hulk can defeat silver surfer. Cuz if you honestly think world breaker hulk can defeat a fully powered silver surfer, then you don't know much about Thor.
Goldenguardianofgood
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Thor Dark wing, I can't see how he was caught off guard when hulk was clearly trying to attack Thor from behind. If hulk was standing there, minding his own business, sure he would be caught off guard. Thor is smart enough to end the fight quick, which is what we saw at that time.

Hulk cannot fight silver surfer and win. Thor to my knowledge has atleast stalemated silver surfer. It's not about being biased. Hulk is powerful, but he's not as powerful as Thor. In all my years of reading comics, Thor is more powerful. Plus, sentry and hulk fought in world war hulk and that ended in a stalemate. Thor the next yr/crossover event in siege, defeated a more powerful sentry/void. Thor has better feats than hulk.
Goldenguardianofgood
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Thor What? You need to type better man.

Dude sentry stalemated him. They both passed out from exhaustion and resorted back to human. Hulk got back up after rick was shot.

Doctor strange losing to hulk was a pis moment. Doctor strange can fight universal power houses that hulk could never dream to take on. Yeah he defeated strange, but no one in their right mind would think now hulk could win.

So what if he destroyed planets? Thor can destroy planets with ease
Goldenguardianofgood
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Thor Dark wing, yes but even without the absorbing part, silver surfer would still defeat hulk.

During Siege, sentry/void fought against Thor. Thor finally put him down, and bob took control for a moment and begged for Thor to kill him. Thor refused and void came back out, at that moment Thor unleashed a massive thunder bolt, defeating void and then Thor took bobs body and threw it into the sun. I'm fairly certain that's what happened. It's been like 10 since I read that series lol. If I was home, I'd pull the series out to double check. But I'm fairly confident I'm right.

I don't think Thor would stomp. I don't think it would be a easy victory. Both untethered and unleashed their powers, Thor would win. Both holding back on earth, it's a toss up.
Poe
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Thor Thor wins but I would say if he gets hulk angry enough Thor would loose

But I still voted for Thor
Clint_Barton
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Thor 1. Physically both have the same strength.
2. Thor is skilled, Hulk is just a mad green strong guy
3. Thor can attack long distances while Hulk has only got kicks, punchies and many fannies.
4. Thor's lightnings are strong enough to lay hulk down.
5. Hulk loses to Corvus Glaive and Peoxima Midnight, while thor fights Thanos. (Infinity, 2018)
6. Mjølnir can get as fast as light, it goes to sun and comes back in few seconds. With that speed, Hulk won't see that coming.
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Clint_Barton
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Thor Base Hulk's best strength feat?
Oh sorry. I have forgotten planet hulk
Thor lightnings are enough to hurt Thanos
Dark_Wing
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Thor Maybe stalemating Thor nearly every time they've fought. And remember Hulk's at a disadvantage because Thor has a lot more skill and abilities than Hulk dose. If we want to get into outliers and classic feats then he has damaged Onslaught more than Thor could and he's punched through dimensions.
No problem.
That doesn't mean he's on Thanos' level.
Clint_Barton
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Thor I think classic comics are changed but okay. It can be.

But if something hurts Thanos, it will hur Hulk badly
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Thor and ALSO









Thor is a fricking god
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Al
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Thor LOL
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Hulk HULK IS BETTER
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EmptyHand
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Thor Are you one of @Breaker's Alts?
Breaker
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Hulk lol no that not me
Breaker
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Hulk Lmao thor 192819399938811828737777163646191974 better than hulk
Oblivion
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Thor MuT Mulk Meated One BoloW Oll.
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Breaker
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Hulk oh trolling?
Okay
Oblivion
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Thor Muh mon Melow Mall is Migh MouterVerSal.
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Goldenguardianofgood
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Thor Thor has stated numerous times he holds back while he's on earth. Him unleashing his full power would destroy the earth. if memory serves me, I know he's stated he holds back when he confronted tony when Thor cane back after civil war. Tony thought he could take Thor, but after Thor proves him wrong, tony asked how. Thor explained he holds back normally. He told cap that he barely uses a third of his power while on earth. World breaker hulk is hulk unleashed and banner is no longer the driver. The destruction he's caused were incredible, but no where on the same level as Thor could of Thor unleashed his powers.
Breaker
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Hulk i love this battle
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Breaker
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Hulk cuz me and u we talk about this 3000 times
and i like ur discussion
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Hulk hulk has won almost every fight with thor FACT!!!
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ThorMathews
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Thor That's not even true lol
Clint_Barton
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Thor @Tyrannus and @Breaker Hulk is not strongest avenger.
1. Stan Lee wanted to make a hero stronger than Hulk, so he made Thor
2. This is Earth-616 hulk. Hulk The End was happened in other universe
3. There are many versions of hulk, this is base version which can lift 600 tons.
4. Bruce cannot control this Hulk, It is not Professor Hulk.
5. The comics you refer are old comics, many things changed since that comics.
THIS IS THE BATTLE BETWEEN BASE HULK AND BASE THOR!!!
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Breaker
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Hulk does i talk in another version of hulk?
all that photo is base hulk
give me a proof when thor beat hulk and ther fights !
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Tyrannus
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Hulk Stan Lee never said Thor was stronger he just said he had someone like Hulk who was the strongest and he also had Spider-man and he wanted to make something different

@Dark The image didn't appear for me. Amadaes Cho doesn't count
Breaker
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Hulk i will tell u again
that ( Awesome Hulk)
that ( Awesome Hulk )
that( Awesome Hulk )
Breaker
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Hulk @Tyrannus (*AGREED*)
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Hulk I'M CLICKING IN BLINK IMAGE,TAKING SO LONG TIME,,,
Dark_Wing
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Thor Patience you mast have my young Padawan.
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Clint_Barton
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Thor @Breaker how is that base hulk he uses thor's hammer. that is worthy hulk
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Thor In the 90 they retconned Thor making him a super powerful alien rather than a god, because of that retcon Mjolnir went from a weapon of the gods to now a piece of metal that stuck to the ground when touched by someone "unworthy." But Hulk's strength increased faster than the hammer could gain weight so eventually Hulk could lift Mjolnir. Don't worry this retcon has been undone in Jason Arron's God of Thunder run where Thor went back to being a god and Mjolnir went back to being a weapon of the gods.
God_of_Thunder
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Thor Mighty Thor dont want to seriously injure a mortal, yes the Incredible Hulk is not just a mortal human he is the strongest there is !
Still there is a human inside this behemoth, a scientist called Bruce Banner.
The Incredible Hulk and Thor are also friends once joining the Avengers. To seriously injure or kill someone you know is not something an honorable warrior god does.
If Thor dont care if his adversary dies much more powerful attacks would be used as the Godblast, Antiforce blast, powerful bolts of lightning, magical energy charged blows from Mjolnir in close combat. Use the versatilty and absorb the radiation energy out of Hulk turning him to Banner just like Surfer did.
In the comics.. Charge Meginjord with magical energy to enhance hos strength or if need be enter warriors madness !
Thor is often writen in a very stupid way when he battles the Hulk. Its always a straight on battle using fists and Mjolnir in close range at Hulks terms. Why not writing Thor as a more tactical and intelligent warrior showing his vast expirience ?
Well Hulk would not look as strong and impressive and also the comics probably would sell less.
Mighty Thor is a God superhero created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby to be the most powerful superhero there is.
This is why they chose a god to be a superhero in the first place.
The Marvel universe and Dc universe are just a modern reflection of ancient myths of heroes, giants, gods, demigods and monsters.
In mythology and alchemi, who is always the most powerful hero ?
Yes the warrior god who battle evil and protects mankind !
Clint_Barton
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Thor Thor wins. Earth 616 normal hulk is not as strong as Thor. Anyway Thor wins. Very hard fight. But Thor is stronger. He is not only physically strong, he also has Thunder powers.
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Breaker
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Hulk Spreading out

Breaker
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Hulk omg











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Tyrannus
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Hulk Why not vote?
Breaker
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Hulk oh.sorry done
Breaker
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Hulk im gonna go with u and say yes he holds back
but who wins finaly?
Tyrannus
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Hulk I gave an explanation while before you gave that video you'd given nothing. I've watched that youtuber before, he's really funny.
Breaker
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Hulk that idiot funny video loool
my photos enough to proof
Breaker
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Hulk

Breaker
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Hulk i just *DON'T KNOW*
why people vote to thor and u
and that fight happend in comic to much
everyfight hulk win,.,,
Tyrannus
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Hulk Hulk always wins in a fair fight
Breaker
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Hulk bro first that not hulk !
that Awesome Hulk !
and comics name (Totally Awesome Hulk)

u still not help with (thor holding back :)
Tyrannus
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Hulk Banner is also sub-consciously holding Hulk back so that civilians don't get hurt. It's very rare for Banner to let Hulk go all out.
Also Hulk usually just wants to be left alone which is why he tries to leave as soon as he thinks the fight has finished.
Tyrannus
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Hulk Stan Lee never actually says Thor's stronger. He actually the Hulk the strongest. I believe the creator
Breaker
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Hulk btw that fights base hulk and base thor
what the hell if hulk become world breaker !
Breaker
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Hulk where's that?
u don't even give me a 1 photo
Breaker
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Hulk yes that what stan lee say
ok look
spiderman is fav character of stan lee
but is that mean spiderman should be the strong from anyone ?! no no no no no
Breaker
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Hulk https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-5064914 this?
Breaker
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Hulk i told u that that Awesome Hulk
i swear to god that Awesome Hulk not hulk
Tyrannus
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Hulk Stan Lee doesn't once say Hulk's stronger but him and Jack Kirby both agree Hulk was the strongest. Thor was supposed to be someone completely different to Hulk (or Spider-Man). He wasn't meant to challenge Hulk as the strongest.
Breaker
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Hulk hulk is immortal
immortal hulk is same hulk but just name changed to immortal
cuz both from earth 616
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Hulk Jane beat Awesome Hulk not Hulk Please Understand me
Tyrannus
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Hulk If the exact same thing happened in the 616 universe the exact outcome would be the same as Hulk The End. Hulk doesn't suddenly get new powers.
Also Awesome Hulk is very different. He doesn't have the rage that normal Hulk had. Being simple minded was what made Hulk so strong
Tyrannus
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Hulk Hulk's healing factor is like Wolverine's in that his body will change but he won't die of natural causes if you know what I mean. The Hulk refuses to die. Ordinarily I tell people not to read Hulk The End but in this case it would explain a lot
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Hulk There's a panel which shows Banner pleading with the Hulk to let them die but he won't allow it. He chooses not to die. Hulk's healing factor is superior
Breaker
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Hulk i see all this photo
first photo okay thor win
second photo that thor with odin force not base thor !!!
Third photo
that was a tie and hulk wear suit like to make him Equal bettwen him and banner
Fourth photo okay thor win,
final photo that wasn't base hulk that was nul hulk and that tie not a win cuz both go away after they busted together

let me tell u how all fights bettwen base thor and base hulk who wins



1 hulk thor 0




2 hulk thor 0



3 hulk thor 0


in that photo thor yes holds back,but hulk was better and punch him so much

let's called a tie

4 hulk thor 1



5 hulk thor 1



5 hulk thor 2



5 hulk thor 3


6 hulk thor 3


hulk smash thor and avengers
7 hulk thor 3


hulk 8 thor 4



hulk 9 thor 4

hulk wins!
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Tyrannus
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Hulk Breaker pretty much summed it up. Also Banner has to ask Hulk to let them die because he knew they wouldn't die naturally.
Tyrannus
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Hulk The video you sent me shows that. It's also known that the Hulk just wants to be left alone. He won't die naturally though as said in Hulk The End. The writers showed him ageing because they wanted to show how years had pasted but it doesn't mean he's going to die. It's one of those flaws of using a healing factor that writers forget about (like how Wolverine should always have a beard but he doesn't). You're literally repeating the same thing now even though I told you.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 13 h 39 m
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Hulk And I've already told you that it's a what if story so it shows what would happen to the 616 universe in the same circumstances. If the 616 universe was went through nuclear bombardment the outcome would be Hulk The End. That's how we know he's immortal because Hulk refuses to die. Banner literally pleads with Hulk to let them die but Hulk won't allow it. Maestro Hulk is completely different to Hulk The End. You're just ignoring what I've said and asking the same thing. Is Hulk The End not a comic? Have I made that up. A simple google search can prove that. I'll wait.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 4 mo 13 d
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Hulk Hulk The End literally proves what I said. You need to read more Hulk comics man, then you'll understand because you've sort of confirmed you haven't read Hulk The End or anything with Maestro Hulk.
Tyrannus
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Hulk It's a What If to the 616 universe so it's identical up to the point with the explosion. The whole point of the comic was to show that Hulk is immortal.
Tyrannus
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Hulk Do you know what What If comics are? Everything was the same before. It there was anything different they would have said but they didn't.
Tyrannus
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Hulk It's still identical to 616 up to a point so it still counts. Claiming it doesn't count without reasoning isn't debunking anything. I've already told you the writer show ageing to signify time has passed.
Tyrannus
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Hulk In Hulk The End Hulk's powers haven't changed. In fact the comic wanted to show how powerful Hulk was in that he always survives. Like I've already said many times now Hulk refuses to die in that comic, proving he is immortal.
Tyrannus
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Hulk What do cancer patients have to do with the Hulk? It doesn't specify anything in the comic that Hulk's powers are different. The Onslaught Saga actually proves Banner holds Hulk back
Tyrannus
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Hulk They won't live forever though. Hulk will.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 4 mo 10 d
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Hulk Did you not read the Onslaught Saga? Jean separates Banner from Hulk so that Hulk would fight unrestrained because Banner holds Hulk back
ForJustice1324
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Thor Thor was only holding back during those fights with Hulk but Thor is more powerful because of him literally being a god.
Dark_Wing
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Thor ...
Tyrannus
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Hulk Savage Hulk was able to hold the planet Sakaar by it's tectonic plates while Thor couldn't lift the midgard serpent. Hulk is much much stronger than Thor and will only get stronger as the fight goes on
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DeanDinosaur6
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Thor Thor lifted the weight of 20 planets with one arm.
Bane333
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Thor I'm not the biggest Marvel fan but that's pretty impressive. We're they moon or earth sized?
DeanDinosaur6
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Thor I think earth sized. If it was earth sized, he would have lifted around 120 sextillion tons.
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Bane333
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Thor The earth weighs 5700 sextillion tons
DeanDinosaur6
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Thor I think it is 5.7 sextillion tons, not 5700 sextillion tons.
Dark_Wing
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Thor Even if we lowball that feat by assuming that A: Thor used the belt of strength and B: those planets were only the size of Pluto (the smallest of the planets) then it's still more impressive than the Hulk feats you all are giving us.
Tyrannus
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Hulk Your all forgetting Thor won't get any stronger while Hulk will.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 6 d
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Hulk Asking you'd win between Hulk and Thor is like asking who'd win in a race between Flash and Superman. We all know the answer but sometimes we like to pretend Thor and Superman have a chance
Dark_Wing
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Thor And you're forgetting that Thor is always at full power while Hulk has to increase his strength via rage and Thor CAN enhance his strength times 10 via Warriors Madness. And i've proven that Hulk CAN get tired and DOSNT have infinite strength so quite being a Hulk fanboy.

Let me fix that for you. Asking you'd win between Hulk and Thor is like asking who'd win in a race between Flash and Superman. We all know the answer but sometimes we like to pretend *Hulk and Superman have a chance.
Tyrannus
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Hulk You haven't proven Hulk gets tired. Admitting the stronger opponent doesn't make me a fanboy(although it make you look like a Thor fanboy).

Nah it was right the first time. They don't call Hulk "strongest one there is" just like how they don't call the Flash the "fastest man alive" for nothing.
Dark_Wing
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Thor He got completely exhausted after Umar did this to him http://thegreatcomicbookheroes.blogspot.com/2011/06/shocking-scene-between-hulk-and-umar.html

He tired out against Sentry and was forced to turn back into Bruce Banner.

Hulk just says he's the strongest there is, it dosnt really mean anything which is proven when Thanos casually slaps him around, Thor battles him to stalemate (and Thor always holds back while Hulk is bloodlusted most of the time HotM isn't canon so don't even bring up when Hulk says that he holds back in that book), and Sentry forced World Breaker Hulk (a MUCH more powerful version of Hulk) to turn back into Bruce Banner.

You have yet to prove that Hulk is immortal and you have yet to prove that Hulk doesn't get tired.
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Tyrannus
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Hulk Umar used a spell on him. After defeating Sentry Banner hulks again out shortly afterwards because Rick Jones gets hurt. If I'm honest I've never actually seen Thanos beat down Hulk. He just knocks him away and people claim that as a Thanos win. Pushing Hulk away isn't a huge achievement.

Hulk The End is a What If story where it reveal the Hulk as Immortal while all the other heroes died.
LordTracer
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Thor Hate to break it to ya Chief, Hulk wasn't tired because Umar used a spell on him. Hulk was exhausted because he and Umar were having sex (which is very clearly implied in the comic) and apparently Hulk can't handle her.
Dark_Wing
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Thor @LordTracer I know with that but it still shows that Hulk can get tired. @Tyrannus Hulk and Sentry battled to a stalemate in which they were both forced to revert bat to their base forms. Thanos is so superior to Hulk that he doesn't even have to fight him, he just pushes him aside like it's nobody's business. Hulk The End is NOT CANON is Earth 616 Hulk immortal? And You still have yet to prove that Hulk is immortal or he can't get tired.
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LordTracer
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Thor I wasn't responding to you there, I was responding to Tyrannus saying Umar put a spell on Hulk to exhaust him, which is very much not what happened.
Tyrannus
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Hulk @Tracer Hulk was calmed down because of the spell. Otherwise he probably would have killed her.

@Dark Banner was still standing and hulks out again. Thanos pushing him isn't really beating him. Hulk The End is a what if so it can be counted as what would happen in that situation. That comic answers both your questions
LordTracer
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Thor Uh, no, even if Hulk was at maximum rage, he wouldn't be able to kill Umar. Also Hulk was calm when Umar was using her magic on him, so...
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 5 d
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Hulk She had to use magic or she was going die. You reckon she'd beat him down?
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 5 mo 5 d
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Thor Uh, yeah, do you know how unbelievably strong Umar is?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 5 d
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Hulk Now that reply right there, was jaw-dropping. Put a smile on my face though
LordTracer
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Thor I don't see why, Umar has been shown numerous times to be on par with Dormammu, who is superior to The Hulk.
Tyrannus
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Hulk Yeah with magic. You didn't read the question properly
LordTracer
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Thor You asked if Umar would beat Hulk down, I answered yes, because she is consistently shown to be as strong as Dormammu. Whether it's with magic or not is irrelevant, because they're both Faltine, their very existence is magic.
Dark_Wing
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Thor Hulk: The End is still a different universe and there is still NO PROOF that Earth 616 Hulk is immortal or doesn't get tired, so why not show me a scan that proves he's immortal rather than using non canon comics as evidence. Because if Hulk were immortal then he wouldn't have been killed by Hawkeye _Civil War II.

"Stan Lee said Hulk is the strongest"

My rebuttal: [Url]https://youtu.be/841_jwfFYQk[/url] and [url]https://youtu.be/sHfJ_NjJTM8[url]
Tyrannus
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Hulk @Tracer She can't beat down the Hulk she has to use magic. The original point was that she had to use the spell becasue without it she'd die. Read the question properly.

@Dark Hulk The End is literally a What If story to the main continuity. That's proof. Look at every fight Hulk has with the Thing. Ben always get's tired while Hulk gets stronger. His fights with Abomination are also good examples. Hawkeye killed him as Banner who was cured. The video didn't appear.
LordTracer
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Thor Her entire being is magic, that's how the Faltine race works. She literally can't do anything but magic, because she is a being composed of magic. And no, Hulk is not capable of killing Umar. He's nowhere near powerful enough to do that.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 4 d
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Hulk When I said "beat him down" I meant literally beating him down which she can't do
LordTracer
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Thor You mean physically beat him up, yes? Umar is perfectly capable of doing so. Zeus was able to physically beat Hulk, Umar is literally infinitely stronger than Zeus, she should be capable of doing the same.
Tyrannus
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Hulk No, she has to use magic or else she wouldn't be able to beat Hulk, Hulk would snap her like a twig. Zeus was using magic to help him.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 4 mo 13 d
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Hulk I already have. It looks like you've accidentally voted for Thor though.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 4 mo 13 d
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Thor How can you accidentally vote for someone who has every advantage and only loses because he was holding back?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 4 mo 11 d
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Hulk He doesn't have a better healing factor and Hulk's strength would surpass Thor eventually. Banner also holds Hulk back.
Bane333
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Thor Upvote the characters that have (Movie) and (TFP) on them we need those to series and franchises in the database.
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Bane333
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Thor @Galactus would be proud if we get an entir movie franchise of characters in the database.
Bane333
Bane333 1 y 5 mo 12 d
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Thor Wow those votes just shot up advertising does work.
Bane333
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Thor Who's down voting all the TF Movie characters we need those in the database it's the second biggest movie franchise in the world other than avengers. Upvote then guys we need them.
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DeanDinosaur6
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Thor It's not the second biggest. The three biggest are MCU, Star Wars, and Harry Potter.
Bane333
Bane333 1 y 5 mo 12 d
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Thor Oh I guess it comes in 4th lol, it's in the top 5 lbs no that
DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 y 5 mo 12 d
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Thor It's like 8th or 9th.
DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 y 5 mo 12 d
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Thor James Bond, Jurassic Park, Fast and Furious, and lord of the rings/hobbit are ahead of it.
Bane333
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Thor This message is to all members that are higher ranked than a normal member, meaning
Editor/Moderator/@Galactus any body of that status please upvote all the TFP characters on The Request list, there are about 15 to 20 characters.
God_of_Thunder
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Thor A battle between the two strongest superheroes in the Marvel universe !
The magical warrior God got to many advantages to loose this battle if he realy fights to defeat the Incredible Hulk.
A skilled warrior with expirience from thousends of years of battle.
Hulk is a human born scientist who transforms into a rampaging behemoth with no skill and perhaps twenty years of expirience. The Asgardian is fast as the speed of light, Hulk as the sound.
The God got an Incredible Versatility and may defeat his enemy in a lot of ways , Hulk is simple straight forward and brute strength only.
Mighty Thor is intelligent and may use strategies tactics , Hulk got limited Intelligence.
The warrior god could do as Silver Surfer and absorb the Radiation Energy straight out of Hulk turning him to Banner.
Blast Hulk with a Godblast witch would kill him ! Use his superior skill as a warrior and beat Hulk with magical charged attacks with Mjolnir in close combat.
Use his Versatility and channel lightning blasts and storms or use magical blast attacks as the Anti Force.
A Mythological warrior god is superior to a human born scientiest turning to the strongest Metahuman there is.
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soratoumiga
soratoumiga 1 y 5 mo 13 d
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Hulk They're not the strongest superheroes, wbk
DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 y 5 mo 13 d
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Thor Physically they are.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 5 mo 12 d
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Thor I agree with basically everything you said @God_of_Thunder
Clint_Barton
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Thor @sora they are. Actually any of I don't know any Marvel heroes stronger
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 13 d
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Hulk Is this a joke? Thor has never been able to beat Hulk properly
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 11 d
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Hulk That was once and Hulk woke up a few seconds later and kicked him off
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 5 d
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Hulk He couldn't though
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 4 d
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Hulk When they actually get fighting Hulk gets the upper hand. Jane Foster isn't that weak. Amadaes Cho doesn't count
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 4 mo 13 d
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Hulk When you have to resort to insult you've already lost
Hurricano
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Hulk Hulk is strongest there is and Thor would put up a hell of a fight but after a while Thor will do to the fact hulk get stronger the angier he gets. And do to his healing factor and survivability
xX
xXICee 1 y 6 mo 21 d
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Hulk Look at the comics
Hulk is way stronger
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 21 d
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Thor Based on what feats? You know Thor holds back a lot, so of course Hulk could beat him their.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 6 mo 1 d
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Hulk Thor can hold back Hulk but eventually he'll lose
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 1 d
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Thor That's the point, Thor holds back and if he didn't he would beat the Hulk more times than he loses.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 11 d
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Hulk I didn't say he hold back against Hulk I said he can hold Hulk back for a while but it won't last. Eventually Thor will fall.
Dark_Wing
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Thor But if he goes all out he could instantly kill Hulk if he wants to.
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captainthor985 1 y 9 mo 2 h 54 m
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Thor as you know Thor has already beaten hulk in Thor Ragnarok but was electrocuted by Grandmaster because he already knew that thor was going to kill him. Also, if you look back in the first avengers film one of Thor's punches sent him flying.
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 y 8 mo 5 d
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Thor thats mcu
Bane333
Bane333 1 y 9 mo 12 d
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Thor (Agreed)
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 y 10 mo 12 d
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Thor Thor smashes
Wo
Worthy4all 1 y 11 mo 27 d
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Thor Strength alone is but a hollow virtue. Thor is just to powerful for hulk. The grand master knew it in Thor Ragnarok. Thor is a better fighter, an ancient being, and God of Asgard. Thor wins this.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y 11 mo 7 d
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Thor I see your reference
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 11 d
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Hulk MCU is different. Hulk is much stronger and he usually fights alone while Thor has help against his foes
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 1 d
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Thor This is the comics not the MCU,
ArthurCurry89
ArthurCurry89 1 y 11 mo 7 d
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not voted Strenght isn't anything
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 1 y 11 mo 7 d
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Thor @Cars23: I believe the Hulk is the strongest MORTAL there is while Thor is the strongest IMMORTAL there is
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 1 d
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Thor WWH has his own profile, and if he didn't Sentry (a solar system to galaxy buster) was able to go blow for blow with him and was actually defeating him at some point.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 y 5 mo 11 d
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Hulk Hulk become WWH if he gets angrier
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 1 d
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Thor Thor holds back a lot, who wouldn't be scared of Hulk?
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 1 d
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Thor In the comics, Thor is more powerful.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 6 mo 1 d
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Thor Outliers, outliers everywhere.

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