The Supreme Maker

@SUBOAsianSensation I knew you were gonna come back.

let's see other users think

His stats are fine

Okay.

Tier 8 is a good choice judging on statements on the verse of Star Wars Legends, but tier 9 is suitable

Fair enough @Wade

Is this character really exist? I asked multiple star wars fans and they said he isn't canonical

@Kvothe404 People say that the Supreme Maker is George Lucas, but it's just stated that the Supreme Maker is the entity that created the force. People speculate it created Star Wars, but that was never mentioned. I believe this profile should be tier 8- but again, tier 9 is fine as well.

cosmos=infinite universes
tell your dark master

@Starwarsfanboynotbiased feats?

creating the lord force and the lord multiverse and the lord celestials and lord time and lord all known concepts and 19 hieracrches of cosmology which is infinetly higher than the other

I used to think he's omnipotent even on my ustats I made him however unless there's a quote or saying by the author or written in a book specifically saying he is than he's more or less a questionable omnipotent best.

proof?

@Starwarsfanboynotbiased Prove to me somewhere other than Discord that Supreme Maker is Omnipotent.

why not discord, i cant send proof here

Supreme maker created the force, celestials all known concepts and has been stated to be omnipotent, the force itself is omnipotent seeing as it is infinite and nothing is impossible with it

That sounds legit like every other Omni be specific.

more specific? I told him it was stated he was omnipotent, how do I get more specific than that

Oh i don't know maybe anything out of "it created everything for its verse"cause all omni's do that.

a statement of him being omnipotent is enough, and how does one creating their omniverse not make them omnipotent or at least nigh omnipotent?

Nothing indicates that he is boundless. Same for Eru Iluvatar.

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Eru is low multiversal, this character has zero feats and no statements that he is all-powerful.

Wdym He literally created everything in SW including the force itself. That's the best feat possible.

@Mr_incognito no the author said he was omnipotent and is more of a writer than Tolkien himself. unlike we Tolkien fans we don't rely on any "tiering" system to find out how strong characters are.

@Mr_Incognito Just because Eru only created one universe does not mean that he can't create more. Also the author even stated that Eru is omnipotent. Same thing goes for the Supreme maker,he created the force, I'd say that is a good feat.

Creation doesn’t equal omnipotence. Lucifer Morningstar has total control over all of creation, but he isn’t omnipotent.

@Mandos9452 Well tiering is important. It is what determines the power levels of characters. On sites like these, the characters have to SHOW that they’re omnipotent through feats. Statements are not enough, they need to be backed up by feats. Simply saying that the character is omnipotent or can create isn’t enough. If that were the case then hundreds of characters would be omnipotent.

@Mr_Incognito okay fair point. However as far as I'm aware of none of those characters were stated to be "omnipotent" by their author. Specifically Lucifer. However regardless of what we each think of Eru, his intelligence and speed should be infinite.

It’s the cover of supernatural encounters. This character is not omnipotent, no evidence suggests as much.

This character created everything in SW, including the force itself.

That statement isn’t backed by any evidence on the internet. Also even if that were true, that doesn’t prove the character is omnipotent.

Oh isn't it? It seems you didn't even read SE.

“The circuit of life had begun with an ebullient energy spilling forth into the expectant vastness, a power like none other, to move and shape and grow. And from the source of light and life blossomed the Force, sown and harvested by the will of its Supreme Maker who is its eternal Lord, and the one who uttered the sounds. And the Force permeated all life and echoed back, and time began its desultory flow.And a second and third sound rang forth, also vanished for all time, even more sublime than the first, intermingling with it, causing the world beneath the jeweled dome to ripen, awakening all manner of strange matter to life with the sounds, sweeter even than before, but also never heard again. And so that all life would always have a connection to its Maker and each other, the emissaries were brought about, microscopic and teeming midichlorians, and into every living thing, they found purchase, there to reside and ever await the voice of their Maker.”

- Supernatural Encounters

“They had a fatal weakness: the Celestials were not masters of their offspring, but merely guides. If they, or the principles they held aloft, were rejected by any of their protected races,they would be forced to depart, for the Supreme Maker had long before issued a decree that they could not interfere with the free will of any sapient race. How odd! What good was it to be Supreme Maker if one did not command those one made? Tilotny wouldprove far better.”

- Supernatural Encounters

“The Alashanians were utterly unaware of the coming danger, assuming that the boasts of the human invaders were just that. Besides this, the Firstborn and their offspring were under direct protection from death and harm, conditional on each race’s faithfulness to the principles of love, wisdom, justice, and the balance of power handed down from the Supreme Maker and passed on to them from their Celestial guides. If any violated these precepts, the Celestials would be forced to depart as they had the Taung, and they would be left to their own devices.”

- Supernatural Encounters

That just proves he created the force and the multiverse. Nothing more.

are you serious?

Ikr

@Mr_Incognito. the supreme Maker is not even almost omnipotent. he has not yet performed a feat to that level.

I agree with @Doomsday

Yes, the image is wrong. The Supreme Maker has no images though.

@Pedrof In fact, The Supreme Maker was supposed to occur from an Canceled/Unreleased comic book series "Star Wars Supernatural Encounters" which I was determined to be released on October, 31 2018 by Joseph Bongiorno as the publisher and The Superme Maker is canon only in The Star Wars Expanded Universe as an transcendental omnipotent entity aside from, Abeloth, The Nakhash (Father of the Shadows), The Bedlam Spirits, Father, and George Lucas as the Avatar.


(Not really an Fan of Star Wars just informing facts)

Yes, I know. TFOS, Abeloth, The Father and The Bedlams Spirits aren't omnipotent. The only one who is omnipotent is TSM.

The Supreme Maker has no image. He is from a book.

The original image is considered Starman (Mister Star) from the Creepypasta Universe which occurs from fictional novels or stories by Mr.Creepypasta, not "The Supreme Maker" curently

Evidence:
https://www.superherodb.com/starman/10-28757/
https://vsdebating.fandom.com/wiki/Starman