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The MCU is Overrated

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vcowles77
vcowles77 3 mo 11 d
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It is gonna take a while for the DCEU universe to develop.
Galactus
Galactus 3 mo 12 d
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Overrated compared to what? It must be compared to the same genre.
What are your higher rated comic movie franchises? Since that's the genre we're talking about.
Is the DCEU better than the MCU? Some movies within the DCEU do surpass some MCU movies. But overall I would say the MCU is better as a whole than the DCEU.

So, no. I do not agree.

Compare the MCU and DC movies to general movies, I think DC did a better job, The Dark Knight is one of the best all time movies. It trumps all MCU movies.
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Savage
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I think if you compare Marvel to DC movies overall Marvel would still have more in say, the top 10
Galactus
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Marvel, maybe, not MCU.
Still, the Dark Knight is one of the best superhero movies.
I love the Raimi Spider-Man, the (old) X-Men movies. Superman The Movie is still my favourite Superman / DC movie ever. Reeve is my favourite Clark.

Also don't forget the earlier Batman movies. It's not about the best special effects. It's about story and acting.
Including the last 40+ years, it's not so obvious that Marvel is better.
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 11 d
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Mcu is way better then the dceu. Altough i agree with Galactus some dceu movies are better then the mcu. Altough outside the mcu DC propably has better movies the Dark Knight trilogy Joker (wich is the most profitable comicbook movie) Michael Keaton his Batman movies etc but the Sam raimi trilogy is the best movie trilogy Marvel did the old x men movies are also awesome so i think they are very close.
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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lemme guess you think Snyder cut is the best movie in history of cinema and that Zack Snyder is the best filmmaker ever
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 12 d
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Nah
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Not the question for you
BlotskyA
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So I Just found something Interesting is that Disney doesn’t have the Rights to The Hulk, Spider-Man and Mysterio, It also said Namor and Venom but those characters have Not shown up in The MCU, This was on an Article that was posted on March 5 2021
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Poe
Poe 3 mo 13 d
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YeahSony has all of the rights to Spider Man characters
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 3 mo 13 d
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What About The Hulk?
SuperSomebody
SuperSomebody 3 mo 13 d
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Hulk is continental, not tier 4
Jongensoden
Jongensoden 3 mo 13 d
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Universal studios has the rights to Hulk that is why there is mcu solo movie after Disney bought the mcu
RatnikNaSjeveru2005
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Wasn't Namor with FOX
SSpiderGwen
SSpiderGwen 5 mo 17 h 13 m
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If Andrew Garfield was in the MCU rather than Tom Holland. He would have made a better Spider-man. He already was a good character for the the movie Captain America's Civil War, but since you have this Tony Stark's Spider-man's suit. Yeah I never was a fan then..
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BlotskyA
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I Agree, I Like Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire's portrayal of Spider-Man Equally because it seems like They Put A Lot of Effort into giving That Spider-Man Vibe that Tom Holland was never given
SSpiderGwen
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@Blotskya That's what's dumb. I mean they kicked Andrew Garfield out because of age. I'd keep him in regardless of the age. Who cares? Andrew Garfield's Spider-man already had a backstory, a good plot. And a good motive for keep making movies. But of course the director had to cancel it and now we have a replaced Spider-man who is a complete rip-off and isn't even a good story of Spider-man. It's like just Tony' Stark's Robin.
BlotskyA
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Yeah that's one of The Reasons I Don't Understand why People don't know Anything and that is, Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man was Clearly in his High School Age and acts like An Mature Adult however Holland's Spider-Man acts like Daredevil in his TV Show where He acts like He Doesn't Know Anything
SuperSomebody
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Professor Hulk is trash ngl
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MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 5 mo 17 h 33 m
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Agree
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 5 mo 17 h 32 m
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Agreed!
Poe
Poe 5 mo 16 h 54 m
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MCU ruined hulk
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 5 mo 16 h 53 m
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Yeah, He Would've been better on Arrow or The Flash
SuperSomebody
SuperSomebody 3 mo 13 d
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@BlotskyA really?
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 3 mo 13 d
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Bruh It’s My Opinion
SuperSomebody
SuperSomebody 3 mo 12 d
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@BlotskyA imagine Mark Ruffalo saying you have failed this city 😂😂
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 3 mo 12 d
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Or Stephen Amell saying that to Mark
BlotskyA
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1 Thing that Ruined the MCU in My Opinion was The Lack of Showing Characters Evolving, What Made The Dark Knight an Amazing Movie was that It Made Batman Lose to The Joker and What I Mean Lose is He lost to him Ideologically and Psychologically, I Feel would've done The Avengers Justice because It would've made them for Relatable because They are Usually Never Relatable, The Reason I Like Arrow Season 4 is because Even Though it Focus on the Romance between Oliver and Felicity at least there were Still Core Elements from Superhero Stuff, and The MCU Doesn't have because They're Comedies, I Think it's Mainly Disney's Fault because I Don't Think Disney was a Good Choice for Superhero Content, I Think CW Would've been Better and it's Not because I Like Arrow and Flash, it's because DC and Marvel Stories have that Romance Drama Elements to The Point where it would work better on Romance Networks like CW, Another Big Issue with The MCU is showcasing The Same Story over and Over Again, This is an Issue with Legends of Tomorrow and that is that They just tell the Same Story over and Over Again, I Would also say that is a Problem with The MCU and The Netflix Show they just tell the Same Story whereas on Arrow, Man of Steel and Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice because The Writers of the Man of Steel and BvS Clearly knew What Story They Wanted to tell,
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Poe
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Ok there is a lot in here that I disagree with first of all there was a lot of character development and a bunch of the characters story arks are not even finished yet. For example Iron started as so drunk billionaire who sold weapons to the military and didn’t care about what happened to the weapons just as long as he got his money, by the end of his story ark he was a father a teammate and he sacrificed himself to save the universe. The Avengers lost to Thanos for 5 years after he wiped out half of the population. Captain America Civil War was literally all about there failure as a team and how incident people are dying in there battles so it’s literally about how there not perfect and they failed. B v S kinda sucked and Batman killed people so it was stupid. The Cw is horrible for superhero tv literally all of the current shows are just filler and are the cheesiest thing alive ( with the exemption of Superman and Lois that show is fire) How does the MCU showcase the same thing again if anything the Flash and Arrow do because it’s always oh no someone is faster then me of another freaking meta it never changes. The first seasons of Flash and Arrow were food though. Also the MCU has comedy so what at least there not cheesy and has there hero’s break danceing and unicorns show up. Also I agree that Disney really limits the MCU. Also the MCU has sooooooo much better fight scenes, just watch infinity war. Finally the MCU feels like a superhero show not just some cheesy drama show that has superhero’s in it.
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 5 mo 20 h 15 m
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1. Character Development are usually when Characters Argue
2. Yeah but The Avengers should've lost in Earlier Movies
3. Civil War took place in 2016 and yet No Consequence was in the Earlier years
4. There are Alternate Versions of Heroes that Kill (Including Batman)
5. CW is perfect For DC and Marvel Content
6. MCU is so cheesy Nowadays which is Not a Good Thing
7. MCU feels more of a Comedy than Heroics, etc
Poe
Poe 5 mo 18 h 24 m
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1. Not really lol
2. Why? It makes no sense for the hero’s to always lose
3. The first mcu movie Iron man had consequences it was literally about his redemption and getting his weapons back from the wrong hands
4. You got me there
5. Hell no
6. Lol mcu, cheesy the past projects they have done haven’t been cheesy at all, the cw is much cheesier
7. There is comedy sure but it really didn’t change much
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 5 mo 18 h 19 m
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1. Yeah
2. It Shows Character Development
3. ok
4. Yeah I Did (Gotta Think Deeper Next Time)
5. Yeah It's True, it's better for those type of Content
6. CW's Arrow and Flash have balls to do Crazy Stuff, MCU nothing
7. Yes it does because Now there's More Comedy than before
Poe
Poe 5 mo 18 h 13 m
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1. Glad we agree
2. True but the hero’s don’t always have to lose because in civil war it shows that every battle they have been in good people die, so to the hero’s they lost every battle think about it
3. Glad you agree
4. Yes I do
5. How do I would like to here your opinion elaborated
6. Sure they have balls but sometimes having the main character breakdance and look like a idiot isn’t good
7. The falcon and winter solider was very serious Loki doesn’t have much comedy
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 5 mo 18 h 7 m
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1. I Was saying, The Avengers should stop Arguing for Comedy instead of Character Development, Hey Remember The Scene in Season 4 of Arrow between Oliver and Quentin where you have that Famous Scene where Oliver just screams and Yells at Quentin, Yeah that was an Amazing Scene But also it had A Good Reason and also it developed both Oliver and Quentin

2. That's What I'm saying That The Heroes don't always have to Lose but make them Lose Occasionally like The CW did with Arrow

5. DC and Marvel have a lot of Romance and Drama Elements that would make them better for Romance and Drama Networks which includes The CW, one of Marvel's Popular Heroes is Spider-Man, one Reason A Lot of People like Spider-Man was his Romance and Drama Elements


6. I Think Not:


7. Falcon and Winter Soldier came out this year and I Can say that If it was Serious, that's great but it's WAY TOO LATE!
Poe
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1. ? Avengers arguing for comedy what? Also yeah that was a good scene. But when the Avengers get in arguments similar to that one in Arrow it’s not comedy there quick witted well Tony is and he is the only one who brings comedy into it and that’s his character so it makes sense
2. So we agree on that point I just misunderstood you
3. True but the cw is past it’s prime and the problem with that is the cw just gives up on there shows didn’t you notice when the flash movie was announced the flash tv show just became filler and hard to take seriously
6. Notice how your using the old canceled show that was the cw at it’s best it’s just getting worse and worse the mcu is just getting bigger and sorta the same actually lol
7. Phase 1 of the mcu was serious Phase 2 was mainly serious asides from GOTG and Antman which was a comedy on purpose Phase 3 was serous when it needed to be if I’m being honest the only part of the phase that made not sense was Thor due to the Change from the most serious project in the mcu to the silliest. Also the comedy in civil war only comes from Spider Man ( who is supposed to be fun that’s being in character) same goes for Stark and Ant man
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 5 mo 17 h 46 m
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1. What I Mean is the Writing for The Arguements are meant to be Comedy


2. No, I was stating that Heroes can lose Occassionally

5. Yeah but it was Not Thor Ragnarok Level of Slapstick Comedy

6. What?

7. I Miss Phase 1 Seriousness
Poe
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1. Ok ok yeah that makes sense then
2. I know
3. Not really there the same level except the difference is Thor 3 was funny unlike pretty much all of the comedy in the cw literally every episode of the flash has some failed comedy especially this season
4. I was saying that the cw is far past it’s prime, we aren’t getting anything in the level of Arrow season 1&2&4 and the Flash season 1&2 anymore aside from Superman and Lois
5. Same
BlotskyA
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3. Season 4 still had that Superhero Elements
4. The MCU are past their Prime nowadays,
Poe
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1. That’s what I said it was good
2. Not really they still have a lot of good projects coming up
3. I’m getting off now so we can continue this later ( also I’m not a hater of the cw I loved the first couple of flash and arrow seasons also Superman and Lois is great)
BlotskyA
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1. What?
2. It's True whatever you want to Believe it or Not
3. um, ok
Galactus
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1. How else, but as narrative, would you want to explain (sometimes) 60 year character history?
2. In earlier movies they were exploring their own capabilities. (Origin stories)
3. -
4. -
5. No, CW is cheesy. Netflix did a pretty good job at the Marvel shows.
6. DC TV is actually the cheesy one of the two. It's a soap opera in tights.
7. Ragnarok and both Ant-Man movies are more on the comedy side. The others are pretty 'serious'. What's wrong with comedy if it's done right? Comics should be fun. DC tried the 'dark' angle, that didn't really work most of the time.

*Edit; I forgot the Guardians as a 'comedy' entry in the MCU. Again, it worked as a comedy.
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BlotskyA
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1. Yeah because Arrow was able to utilized World War II like Lian Yu, There were Chinese Islands that were taken By The Japanese during WWII, and I Learned in a WWII Documentary that The Nazis used a Drug that allowed them to stay up for serveral Days and So I Think it's sad that Arrow a Show about Green Arrow who isn't Character into War handled WWII Realistic and Really well than The Captain America

2. Yeah but They eventually had to learn how to use them without getting People Hurt

3. ?
4. ?

5. Uh, Has Arrow or Flash shown a Scene where 2 Characters Argue because The Writers wanted Comedy? uh No

6. DC and Marvel have Soap Opera Elements, Yesterday I Was Watching Clips of Man of Steel and I Was like this Amazing Quality and then I Look at a MCU Movie and it looks awful, The Comedy doesn't Work if the Characters are Serious Characters in the Comics, I Think The Reason Arrow had 8 Seasons was because They Didn't Focus on The Cheesiness, Etc



7. The Reason DC's Dark Angle didn't work was because Apparently People don't Know Anything other than Comedy and Fun
Galactus
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1. What does that have to do with your initial claim, that I commented on?
2. 'Eventually' means later... so in the first place they did what you wanted. They are the heroes of the movies, they 'need' to win. Although Rocky lost in the first movie and is still the best in the series. So it could have worked.
5. So you think the DC writers don't want to have comedy in their shows? They've written plenty of comedic scenes in the shows you mention. Not everyone likes the same comedy, it's a gamble. I personally think it has worked pretty well in all MCU movies.
6. Man of Steel is a movie, I was talking about the TV shows. But the Marvel shows actually take place in the MCU, and most of DC shows aren't a part of the DCEU. That's another thing Marvel does better.
The reason Arrow (and other shows) have so much seasons is because they are 'simple' or easy to make and attract a lot of viewers, thus make a lot of money. Better shows have been cancelled plenty of times, not because they are worse, but they are too specific/'complicated' for the bigger audience.
7. I kinda agree with you. People want 'happy endings'. They want to have a good/fun time when watching movies. People do appreciate serious/darker movies more, though. When done right. Shawshank Redemption is nr1 movie of all time, not necessarily a comedy. Heck, the first 'semi-comedy' is at nr 35 (Back to the Future).
BlotskyA
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1. I'm saying that Yes I Do Want Narrative and Explanation on Characters, I Just Brought up Arrow as an Example

2. What I Meant was that The Avengers would evolve into Real Heroes like They lose in The First Movie but in the 2nd Movie They evolve as They Win

5. Yeah They do Comedy in Arrow and Flash but Not to the Amount that The MCU has Provided

6. Man of Steel was an Example, But when you Watch Arrow Season 3 and The Flash Season 1, They are connected, In The Marvel Shows (Not the Disney Plus) like Daredevil which is set to be in The MCU but I Never felt like it was

7. Yeah, I Agree, People need to Learn to Accept Not Happy Endings because it's Not like Every Story ends with a Happy Ending, In Fact There is a Decent Amount of Stories that have Depressing Endings
Galactus
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You're fast at replying! 👍🏻
2. Like my example; Rocky.
5. Those MCU movies are made as comedy movies, you need to view them as such.
6. Daredevil actually feels like it takes place in the MCU, even if we don't get a reference in any of the movies. The DC shows feel so different from the DCEU. The DC shows might be connected, but not to the movies.
7. Unhappy endings make better movies.
BlotskyA
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Sorry for this Late Reply, I Was Outside doing Excerise
2. Yeah I Agree Rocky is a good example
5. yeah but I Also want more Superhero Elements
6. I Never felt that unfortunately
7. I Agree
Jongensoden
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I dont hate the mcu. But if you to a movie like the Dark Knight its funny but also serious. Same for the early mcu movies Incredible Hulk
Iron man 1 IT should be like those
Jongensoden
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Also @BlotskyA i think the mcu has bad villians outside Thanos
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Yeah They do Have Bad Villains which is Shame because Their Comic Book Counterparts are much More Interesting
Jongensoden
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Yeah i agree and they also have many plotholes where for example in Arrow the plot makes sense same for movies like the Dark Knight
BlotskyA
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Yeah Like when People say that Killing off Black Canary on a Green Arrow show, it really Annoys Me because it's not like there's No Green Arrow Stories without Black Canary, There's Like a Million Green Arrow Stories that don't feature Black Canary, the reason Doesn't Bother me is because Arrow has shown more Comic Book Elements than The MCU, and so The MCU is more Unwatchable because They Focus on Arguments that are Funny which in my Opinion is Unwatchable Because Arguments are meant to be Serious I Mean Remember the Scene in Episode 4 of Season 4 of Arrow where Oliver and Quentin scream at Each Other, there's A Reason for that Scene, With the MCU they don't care, And Looking at BvS and Man of Steel They put time in making of Those Movies, The MCU Doesn't have that and The Actors in the MCU Movies look like They don't really wanna be there, They look like they want Superhero Stuff like saving People, stopping Fires, Stopping Crimes, stuff like that, etc,
Jongensoden
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Agreed Mcu also uses to much Cgi while if you look at Arrow The Dark Knight etc there is not much cgi and its more realistic
BlotskyA
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Exactly also even when they use CGI, it looks great
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I just Made a Video talking about The MCU
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The point is that it’s great movie franchise and a lot of people like it because it’s cool seeing Marvel’s most popular and even lesser known characters (Like the Guardians of the Galaxy, Shang-Chi, and Eternals) coming to life on screen. This question is stupid and some of you guys are just jealous that Marvel got better movies than DC.
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BlotskyA
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I Think the Point of this Forum was to what we Feel about the MCU, Here's an Example: I Really Enjoy Arrow Season 4 but No else Does, so I make a forum about what We Like and what We Don't like, I Think that was the Point of this Forum
MoNsTeR
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DC have big potential but wb is trash sadly
BlotskyA
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@MoNsTeR I Disagree, MCU have Potential but Disney just doesn't want that because Life
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agree on that mcu was little bit dark and R rated movies would be sick
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I think the thing is that all mcu movies have the same vibe wich is different with the dceu in the dceu each director his style is different. I can see the difference between a movie Zack Snyder for example directed and a movie wich someone like Patty Jenkins directed in the mcu most movies geel the same like i dont even know 80 percent of the directors. I still like the mcu but i feel there should be movies with different tones
Poe
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I like it but it’s overrated
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another Issue is the Lack of Recurring Enemies like in the Comics, Captain America usually fights Red Skull, Baron Zemo, Arnim Zola, Armadillo, Porcupine, Crossbones and many more, in the MCU He only fought once and it makes you wonder why was he in like 1 Movie, so disrespectful to characters,
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Poe
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I mean we need to remember that the MCU isn’t comics it’s very difficult to get actors to return or schedule conflicts and stuff
Jongensoden
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Agreed
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Why @Lazada you don't ask @Ezio to ban this you ask @ Ezio to delete my forum of who is omnipotent in dc but don't ask this to @Ezio you proof that u are a dc fanboy
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@ThorMathews doesn't say harshly about the MCU like you saying that DC characters are fodder, why should I ask @Ezio that? DC Hater and Marvel Wanker!
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Can't you tell the difference between Overrated and Fodder?
CosmicKingThor
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First overrated means the characters who are not as powerfull as people make them
Fodder means the one who graze grass
And because u tell to Ezio to delete my forum so why not this dc true wanker
SuperSomebody
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Ya don’t have to tag Ezio
ThorMathews
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Also as a Thor fan I feel that the Warriors 3, and Sif have been completely underutilized and killing them off and not even having Thor care was just stupid.
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I agree, I was super upset about Fandral because he is my favorite but at the same time the first few directors handled those characters so poorly I was just kind of glad that Taika killed them off.
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Put them out of their misery of being here lol
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Which was also weird because like the way it was setup in Thor (2011) was that they had been on many battles and they all really cared for each other and I suppose it was set up the same way in The Dark World but like yeah I can see where it would be like... "why doesn't Thor care all of a sudden?" lol
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Yeah I Agree, The Warriors 3 & Sif should have been closer to Thor and actually should've Gotten a Good Ending to their Characters and Thor should've cared because in the Comics, I'm Gonna Argue that Thor is Marvel's Version of Batman, more of a Damaged Batman who goes through Arrogant Problems, that is Thor and If I'm being Honest here, most of Thor's Villains can Work in the Nolanverse, not in the MCU, if I Was a Writer for The MCU, I Would've made it where Sif and The Warriors 3 died from Blood Loss or Cancer and it would've effected Thor in alot of ways, I Hated How Thor was affected by Loki and that is Insulting to the Comics because that's Like Saying Batman is affected by The Joker dying through Cancer and I Would be like: Isn't he your Nemesis, like when I Watch Batman Movies or TV Shows, I'm kinda want to see Some Thor Villains like Loki, Amora, The Executioner & Wrecking Crew to show up because It Would be Alot of Fun, overall this is just My Opinion on The MCU treated The Thor Characters, It's Kinda Sad
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I sort of agree. While it was nice to see the comic book heroes on screen, its like people refer to the MCU as the main version rather than the comics. The average person thinks that Thor is a clown, stormbreaker is an axe and that Thanos is actually reasonable guy.
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ThorMathews
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Exactly man! Well said!
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Totally agree @Tyrannus , I have been trying to say that there is something great about getting to see two different creative entities creating a different story from the same material. That was the beauty of the MCU honestly. Always appreciate the comics and the source material and their creations because those are better stories originally.
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Agreed in everything!!
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ThorMathews
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How's it a stupid question? It's truth
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Another Horrible Villain is Mysterio, the fact that they made a Cliffhanger than He is THE MAIN VILLAIN is so Disrespectful, Here's the thing, On Arrow Season 6 is better because they created Another Villain and used him as the main villain for half of the Season then you got the Main Villain, Another thing how the hell can Spidey have a hard time with Mysterio yet he fought and held his own Against FREAKING THANOS, and People complain how Oliver didn't defeat Diaz mainly because He was able to defeat Damien Darhk or Ras al Ghul
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cw6334
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I just wanna ask, when did Spider-Man fight someone by himself in Infinity War or Endgame? I don't remember that. Especially not Thanos, you maybe argue Cull Obsidian he fought but didn't one-on-one. Mysterio didn't beat him physically in hand to hand combat, he beat him mentally through his manipulations. Until eventually Peter outsmarted him through his own tech and used his Spider Sense.

I mean Arrow went through a lot to be able to beat those characters there isn't anything wrong with any of those seasons. Especially 6 like you were talking about.
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@BlotskyA man I see you bring Arrow into everything ( no disrespect )
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@Poe mainly because Arrow is closer to the comics, even Seasons 3, 4, 6 & 7
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@BlotskyA I guess
SuperSomebody
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Mysterio showed how powerful a human with technology can be
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Yeah but that's not Mysterio in the Comics, That's more Abra Kadabra Stuff, Mysterio uses movie Props which I Don't understand How The MCU wouldn't use that kinda of stuff, I Know they wanted Mysterio Realistic but that also comes with an Issue and that is MCU don't know what Type of Movies can Be Realistic and What is Not Realistic
SuperSomebody
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they underrate noobmaster69
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in MCU is fuller of clowns, in DCU Not so.
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SuperSomebody
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Ok Darkseid, I still think your planet Apokolips still sucks
ET9
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also Trigon.
Tyrannus
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The DCEU was actually heading in the right direction until they tried copying the MCU
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Tyrannus I Agree with you, People are so Delusional These Days
RajinKabir
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Well MCU maybe a little bit Overrated.
ThorMathews
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Oh another extremely disappointing movie was Iron Man 3. It's sad we'll never be able to see the Mandarin vs Iron Man
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RajinKabir
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Agreed on Iron Man 3. I don't understand why it did so well . It not that good
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Yeah I mean so disrespectful to the Mandarin,
cw6334
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Luckily we are getting Shang-Chi which will now have the Mandarin. I agree Iron Man 3 was disappointing.
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@cw6334 yeah we're just so lucky lol. The Mandarin is an IRON MAN villain, and his best villain and arch nemesis. It's sad they never used him against Tony.
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Yeah, they used Merlyn and Eobard Thawne against Green Arrow and The Flash in the CW Shows
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omg @ThorMathews lol you got a problem with literally everything don't you? At least we will see the character sheesh, they messed it up once and this time I am sure they will try to do it justice. Chill bro lol.
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@cw6334 stfu of course I gotta problem with it it's like Batman not going up against the Joker.
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@ThorMathews first how about you chill before telling me to Shut the F*** up. Swearing doesn't add emphasis or weight to your argument or make you look cool. I haven't disrespected you like that at all, so don't do that. I will go back to what I said earlier, the beauty of products is that they don't copy the thing they are inspired by panel for panel. The beauty of The Dark Knight and Endgame/Infinity War is that they did their own world building. Each one had characters inspired by the source material. Not everything has to be just comic oriented.

Now I can't speak if the real Mandarin being Shang-Chi's father will work or not but due to past movies and ideas from the MCU, I have every reason to believe that it will be fine.
ThorMathews
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@cw6334 I'm an Iron Man fan who wants to see Iron fight his main villain. What the hell is the problem with that. I'll swear if I want
cw6334
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There is nothing wrong with that. You can't at least show the littlest of excitement to see a character done justice that wasn't before? I didn't get to see Spider-Man fight Venom yet, I never got to see Captain America fight actual Baron Zemo, I never got to see Hulk fight Absorbing Man, Thor fight Radioactive Man, etc. It doesn't mean that I'm bitter but I can be excited about these characters being introduced in other ways. Who knows with the multi-verse we could see anything.

Well whenever you wanna act mature and give respect to another human being who is showing respect to you and not swearing at you and just having a genuine conversation with you, I will be here waiting.
ThorMathews
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@cw6334 The Mandarin is a bit of a bigger deal than radioactive man lmao. Stop acting all high and mighty cause you don't swear.
cw6334
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The point still stands no matter what villain it is. Venom is a big deal. Still is a character people want to see.

Also I am not acting high and mighty. I do swear lol I never said I am perfect but I am showing you respect by not swearing at you whenever I am having a genuine conversation with you. That is not acting high and mighty that is showing respect to another human being. You were the one acting like a 13 year old saying "I wiLl SwEaR If I WAnT", literally all I asked for is respect. That is what I am giving you.
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I'm a Marvel and DC fan
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cw6334
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Me too. Both have great stories.
ThorMathews
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That's not what this is about the Dceu is also not amazing lmao
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the DCEU is not great because People apparently hate violent and Dark Superhero Stories 🤦‍♂️
Pedrof
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Yeah 🤦‍♂️
cw6334
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The only reason that DCEU is under MCU for me is just because the executives at WB and AT&T have to micromanage everything instead of letting someone have artistic intent and create something. Why they felt they needed to catch the MCU numbers so fast is beyond me. If the DCEU would have just waited til after Endgame and then went ahead with Man of Steel 2, Wonder Woman, The Batman, Aquaman, The Flash, Cyborg, The Green Lantern film, etc. They could have built something truly great but greed is the evil of all isn't it?
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The Main Reason DCEU is under is because Alot of People love the MCU and don't realize that sometimes its better not follow Other Films Tone because it would then separate the two
SuperSomebody
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Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, realllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, ya suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it's overrated?
Ok I'm a Marvel Fan that's the point but how is it overrated I wanna know.
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ThorMathews
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BlotskyA
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I Agree mainly because People go on Arrow and how it disrespects the Source Material, I Just 🤦‍♂️ the MCU has disrespected far more characters than Arrow, yes Olicity is a Terrible Relationship but At Least Arrow actually has somethings from the Comics, I Can only sees 0 in the MCU and in the Netflix Universes, Spider-Man, he acts like an Idiot where in the Comics, He is one of the Smartest Characters in the Marvel Universe, Thor and Hulk, omg, I Mention this before but My Marvel vs DC Fan Show will be closer to the Comics, The Team in the show will be closer to the Comics, only difference is the Backstories and Personalities but even then that's not a huge difference
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I think what makes projects good is that they are their own and if they are written well. That is what makes Arrow good. It is based upon comic stories and characters but what makes it good is that it has its own artistic intention. I think that is what makes all these shows and movies good is that they don't copy the comics panel for panel. That is why I wasn't a big fan of Zack Snyder's Watchmen, I love Watchmen the book and it was cool to see it on screen but I felt like it didn't do anything different and the thing it tried to do differently was bad lol.
ThorMathews
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Another thing. I hate agendas🤦🏼‍♀️ but I guess that goes for the comics as well
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Tyrannus
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Captain Marvel anyone
ThorMathews
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@Tyrannus hahaha yup
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Alright firstly I'll start with endgame being a massive disappointment, and the disrespect to Thor and Hulk is unforgivable. Secondly Spider-man in the mcu is absolutely awful. Yes tom holland is a good actor and does a good job with what he is given. But to me the spider-man movies don't feel like Spider-man, no talk of uncle Ben, no Mary Jane, no Gwen Stacy, no Harry Osborne, no good Flash Thompson. Captain marvel is absolutely atrocious, and I think most of you would agree. The little bit of personality she has is terrible. Also imo Thor never got his movies done well they missed so many things. Also poor Hulk never getting the spotlight he deserves. Black Widow and Hulk relationship was weird as hell and came outta nowhere. Nick Fury losing his eye to a fucking cat? C'mon guys I was thinking he lost it in a badass way. Mcu undercuts a lot of important moments for humor over story and depth and that's always bugged the hell outta me. Mcu has good movies and good moments but let's stop pretending it's a 9/10 franchise.
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BlotskyA
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Nick lost his eye to a CAT! omg, MCU is not even Funny at all
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MCU's Spider-Man wasn't supposed to be about Uncle Ben and the overall origin story because we already got two movie series that focused on that. Kevin Feige has been quoted specifically talking about that. That doesn't make the Spider-Man in the MCU 'bad'. The disrespect to Thor, you mean like the scene where he almost beat Thanos w/ the infinity gauntlet mind you on his own? Seems pretty disrespectful to me. Kevin Feige has also been quoted saying he didn't want Hulk to be too powerful in these movies because they didn't just want a cop out on how to beat every villain. I can agree that Captain Marvel wasn't the best film, I still believe it to be better than The Dark World though. Her character was just weirdly written to be this brooding overarching female hero but whenever we got the scene in Endgame where her and Peter had that TINY and I do mean TINY little banter together then she truly had moment where she felt part of the universe, I hope that continues. The Nick Fury thing, I don't really know why that's such a big deal like yeah of course I thought it was weird but I didn't really care that much. I don't know if you are personally just looking at everything at a surface level but there is story and depth within almost every character and I say almost because I know that isn't the case all of the time. There is a lot if interweaving and melded parts of many different stories to build this one cohesive whole that has created some fantastic films. I am really generous whenever it comes to films and filmmaking because I can always look to see good parts instead of always pointing out the bad so I rank movies probably a bit higher than most people do but I can't help that is how I watch movies.
ThorMathews
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@cw6334 they replaced uncle Ben with Iron Man. They haven't even said his name, they didn't have to show his death again but Spider-man isn't Spider-man without uncle Ben it's the main point of his character, just like Bruce wayne's parents. I've heard that bullshit before and it's a poor excuse. I'm talking about Thor in endgame and Thors movies, they didn't do Asgard and Thor as a character justice. Hulk needs his own movies and should have a goddamn healing factor at least. The nick Fury thing is an example of how Marvel undercuts things, they choose comedy over badassery.
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Well if you look at my statement above. Do you want it to just copy comic panels? I am pretty sure even Stan Lee was quoted before his untimely death stating that he liked that these stories are different from his own.

If you have watched Civil War there is a whole scene of him talking about his 'M.O.' and why he wants to be Spider-Man. I hope you know they are also building a spider-verse so you can look forward to that, I am sure they will explore all that in Spider-Man No Way Home.

So you disliked Thor's character arc as a whole? I thought it was fine.

Oh yeah you mean like the time where they threw comedy into the Bucky Captain America and Iron Man fight? Or whenever everyone was snapped away. Or whenever Iron Man snapped his fingers? Or when Hulk beat Abomination? There is a balance there are badass things we have gotten, sad, happy, comedic, etc.
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Spider-Man without Uncle Ben could work if Only the Writers actually establish Uncle Ben and seeing how much Bens death affected Peter, its so insulting to the comics to make a Spider-Man Film without at least flashbacks to Uncle Ben, I Would've used Flashbacks to show how much Ben was to Peter and how his Death Affected him to be a Better Person
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@BlotskyA you know you may be right that could have really made an interesting or different kind of arc for Peter. I just think that Spider-Man in Sam Raimi and The Amazing series already did Uncle Ben and one of them did it well and honestly just having a singular Spider-Man story showing Peter focused on Uncle Ben or those motivations might have deterred from the wider universe because Spider-Man: Homecoming was more of a coming of age type of story or finding your purpose.
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we could've gotten at least Flashbacks which really wouldn't hurt because we're seeing Uncle Ben for a Few Minutes
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Tyrannus
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They were trying to be funny rather than showing respect to epic characters.
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I agree.