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The MCU is Overrated

Created by ThorMathews, 10 d ago.

Who else agrees?

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BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
another Issue is the Lack of Recurring Enemies like in the Comics, Captain America usually fights Red Skull, Baron Zemo, Arnim Zola, Armadillo, Porcupine, Crossbones and many more, in the MCU He only fought once and it makes you wonder why was he in like 1 Movie, so disrespectful to characters,
CosmicKingThor
The MCU is Overrated
4 months member
Why @Lazada you don't ask @Ezio to ban this you ask @ Ezio to delete my forum of who is omnipotent in dc but don't ask this to @Ezio you proof that u are a dc fanboy
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Lazada
Lazada 7 d
The MCU is Overrated
2 months member
@ThorMathews doesn't say harshly about the MCU like you saying that DC characters are fodder, why should I ask @Ezio that? DC Hater and Marvel Wanker!
Lazada
Lazada 7 d
The MCU is Overrated
2 months member
Can't you tell the difference between Overrated and Fodder?
CosmicKingThor
The MCU is Overrated
4 months member
First overrated means the characters who are not as powerfull as people make them
Fodder means the one who graze grass
And because u tell to Ezio to delete my forum so why not this dc true wanker
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
Also as a Thor fan I feel that the Warriors 3, and Sif have been completely underutilized and killing them off and not even having Thor care was just stupid.
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cw6334
cw6334 8 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
I agree, I was super upset about Fandral because he is my favorite but at the same time the first few directors handled those characters so poorly I was just kind of glad that Taika killed them off.
cw6334
cw6334 8 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
Put them out of their misery of being here lol
cw6334
cw6334 8 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
Which was also weird because like the way it was setup in Thor (2011) was that they had been on many battles and they all really cared for each other and I suppose it was set up the same way in The Dark World but like yeah I can see where it would be like... "why doesn't Thor care all of a sudden?" lol
Tyrannus
The MCU is Overrated
25 months member
I sort of agree. While it was nice to see the comic book heroes on screen, its like people refer to the MCU as the main version rather than the comics. The average person thinks that Thor is a clown, stormbreaker is an axe and that Thanos is actually reasonable guy.
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ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
Exactly man! Well said!
cw6334
cw6334 8 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
Totally agree @Tyrannus , I have been trying to say that there is something great about getting to see two different creative entities creating a different story from the same material. That was the beauty of the MCU honestly. Always appreciate the comics and the source material and their creations because those are better stories originally.
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ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
How's it a stupid question? It's truth
BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
Another Horrible Villain is Mysterio, the fact that they made a Cliffhanger than He is THE MAIN VILLAIN is so Disrespectful, Here's the thing, On Arrow Season 6 is better because they created Another Villain and used him as the main villain for half of the Season then you got the Main Villain, Another thing how the hell can Spidey have a hard time with Mysterio yet he fought and held his own Against FREAKING THANOS, and People complain how Oliver didn't defeat Diaz mainly because He was able to defeat Damien Darhk or Ras al Ghul
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cw6334
cw6334 8 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
I just wanna ask, when did Spider-Man fight someone by himself in Infinity War or Endgame? I don't remember that. Especially not Thanos, you maybe argue Cull Obsidian he fought but didn't one-on-one. Mysterio didn't beat him physically in hand to hand combat, he beat him mentally through his manipulations. Until eventually Peter outsmarted him through his own tech and used his Spider Sense.

I mean Arrow went through a lot to be able to beat those characters there isn't anything wrong with any of those seasons. Especially 6 like you were talking about.
SuperSomebody
The MCU is Overrated
0 months member
they underrate noobmaster69
Darkseid_Uxas
The MCU is Overrated
0 months member
in MCU is fuller of clowns, in DCU Not so.
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SuperSomebody
The MCU is Overrated
0 months member
Ok Darkseid, I still think your planet Apokolips still sucks
ET9
ET9 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
1 months member
also Trigon.
Tyrannus
The MCU is Overrated
25 months member
The DCEU was actually heading in the right direction until they tried copying the MCU
RajinKabir
The MCU is Overrated
12 months member
Well MCU maybe a little bit Overrated.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
Oh another extremely disappointing movie was Iron Man 3. It's sad we'll never be able to see the Mandarin vs Iron Man
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RajinKabir
The MCU is Overrated
12 months member
Agreed on Iron Man 3. I don't understand why it did so well . It not that good
BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
Yeah I mean so disrespectful to the Mandarin,
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
Luckily we are getting Shang-Chi which will now have the Mandarin. I agree Iron Man 3 was disappointing.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
@cw6334 yeah we're just so lucky lol. The Mandarin is an IRON MAN villain, and his best villain and arch nemesis. It's sad they never used him against Tony.
BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
Yeah, they used Merlyn and Eobard Thawne against Green Arrow and The Flash in the CW Shows
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
omg @ThorMathews lol you got a problem with literally everything don't you? At least we will see the character sheesh, they messed it up once and this time I am sure they will try to do it justice. Chill bro lol.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
@cw6334 stfu of course I gotta problem with it it's like Batman not going up against the Joker.
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
@ThorMathews first how about you chill before telling me to Shut the F*** up. Swearing doesn't add emphasis or weight to your argument or make you look cool. I haven't disrespected you like that at all, so don't do that. I will go back to what I said earlier, the beauty of products is that they don't copy the thing they are inspired by panel for panel. The beauty of The Dark Knight and Endgame/Infinity War is that they did their own world building. Each one had characters inspired by the source material. Not everything has to be just comic oriented.

Now I can't speak if the real Mandarin being Shang-Chi's father will work or not but due to past movies and ideas from the MCU, I have every reason to believe that it will be fine.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
@cw6334 I'm an Iron Man fan who wants to see Iron fight his main villain. What the hell is the problem with that. I'll swear if I want
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
There is nothing wrong with that. You can't at least show the littlest of excitement to see a character done justice that wasn't before? I didn't get to see Spider-Man fight Venom yet, I never got to see Captain America fight actual Baron Zemo, I never got to see Hulk fight Absorbing Man, Thor fight Radioactive Man, etc. It doesn't mean that I'm bitter but I can be excited about these characters being introduced in other ways. Who knows with the multi-verse we could see anything.

Well whenever you wanna act mature and give respect to another human being who is showing respect to you and not swearing at you and just having a genuine conversation with you, I will be here waiting.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
@cw6334 The Mandarin is a bit of a bigger deal than radioactive man lmao. Stop acting all high and mighty cause you don't swear.
cw6334
cw6334 8 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
The point still stands no matter what villain it is. Venom is a big deal. Still is a character people want to see.

Also I am not acting high and mighty. I do swear lol I never said I am perfect but I am showing you respect by not swearing at you whenever I am having a genuine conversation with you. That is not acting high and mighty that is showing respect to another human being. You were the one acting like a 13 year old saying "I wiLl SwEaR If I WAnT", literally all I asked for is respect. That is what I am giving you.
ET9
ET9 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
1 months member
I'm a Marvel and DC fan
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cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
Me too. Both have great stories.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
That's not what this is about the Dceu is also not amazing lmao
BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
the DCEU is not great because People apparently hate violent and Dark Superhero Stories 🤦‍♂️
Pedrof
Pedrof 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
15 months member
Yeah 🤦‍♂️
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
The only reason that DCEU is under MCU for me is just because the executives at WB and AT&T have to micromanage everything instead of letting someone have artistic intent and create something. Why they felt they needed to catch the MCU numbers so fast is beyond me. If the DCEU would have just waited til after Endgame and then went ahead with Man of Steel 2, Wonder Woman, The Batman, Aquaman, The Flash, Cyborg, The Green Lantern film, etc. They could have built something truly great but greed is the evil of all isn't it?
BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
The Main Reason DCEU is under is because Alot of People love the MCU and don't realize that sometimes its better not follow Other Films Tone because it would then separate the two
SuperSomebody
The MCU is Overrated
0 months member
Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, realllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, ya suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it's overrated?
Ok I'm a Marvel Fan that's the point but how is it overrated I wanna know.
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ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
Read
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 10 d
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
I Agree mainly because People go on Arrow and how it disrespects the Source Material, I Just 🤦‍♂️ the MCU has disrespected far more characters than Arrow, yes Olicity is a Terrible Relationship but At Least Arrow actually has somethings from the Comics, I Can only sees 0 in the MCU and in the Netflix Universes, Spider-Man, he acts like an Idiot where in the Comics, He is one of the Smartest Characters in the Marvel Universe, Thor and Hulk, omg, I Mention this before but My Marvel vs DC Fan Show will be closer to the Comics, The Team in the show will be closer to the Comics, only difference is the Backstories and Personalities but even then that's not a huge difference
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cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
I think what makes projects good is that they are their own and if they are written well. That is what makes Arrow good. It is based upon comic stories and characters but what makes it good is that it has its own artistic intention. I think that is what makes all these shows and movies good is that they don't copy the comics panel for panel. That is why I wasn't a big fan of Zack Snyder's Watchmen, I love Watchmen the book and it was cool to see it on screen but I felt like it didn't do anything different and the thing it tried to do differently was bad lol.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
Another thing. I hate agendas🤦🏼‍♀️ but I guess that goes for the comics as well
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Tyrannus
The MCU is Overrated
25 months member
Captain Marvel anyone
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
@Tyrannus hahaha yup
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
Alright firstly I'll start with endgame being a massive disappointment, and the disrespect to Thor and Hulk is unforgivable. Secondly Spider-man in the mcu is absolutely awful. Yes tom holland is a good actor and does a good job with what he is given. But to me the spider-man movies don't feel like Spider-man, no talk of uncle Ben, no Mary Jane, no Gwen Stacy, no Harry Osborne, no good Flash Thompson. Captain marvel is absolutely atrocious, and I think most of you would agree. The little bit of personality she has is terrible. Also imo Thor never got his movies done well they missed so many things. Also poor Hulk never getting the spotlight he deserves. Black Widow and Hulk relationship was weird as hell and came outta nowhere. Nick Fury losing his eye to a fucking cat? C'mon guys I was thinking he lost it in a badass way. Mcu undercuts a lot of important moments for humor over story and depth and that's always bugged the hell outta me. Mcu has good movies and good moments but let's stop pretending it's a 9/10 franchise.
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BlotskyA
BlotskyA 10 d
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
Nick lost his eye to a CAT! omg, MCU is not even Funny at all
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
MCU's Spider-Man wasn't supposed to be about Uncle Ben and the overall origin story because we already got two movie series that focused on that. Kevin Feige has been quoted specifically talking about that. That doesn't make the Spider-Man in the MCU 'bad'. The disrespect to Thor, you mean like the scene where he almost beat Thanos w/ the infinity gauntlet mind you on his own? Seems pretty disrespectful to me. Kevin Feige has also been quoted saying he didn't want Hulk to be too powerful in these movies because they didn't just want a cop out on how to beat every villain. I can agree that Captain Marvel wasn't the best film, I still believe it to be better than The Dark World though. Her character was just weirdly written to be this brooding overarching female hero but whenever we got the scene in Endgame where her and Peter had that TINY and I do mean TINY little banter together then she truly had moment where she felt part of the universe, I hope that continues. The Nick Fury thing, I don't really know why that's such a big deal like yeah of course I thought it was weird but I didn't really care that much. I don't know if you are personally just looking at everything at a surface level but there is story and depth within almost every character and I say almost because I know that isn't the case all of the time. There is a lot if interweaving and melded parts of many different stories to build this one cohesive whole that has created some fantastic films. I am really generous whenever it comes to films and filmmaking because I can always look to see good parts instead of always pointing out the bad so I rank movies probably a bit higher than most people do but I can't help that is how I watch movies.
ThorMathews
The MCU is Overrated
23 months member
@cw6334 they replaced uncle Ben with Iron Man. They haven't even said his name, they didn't have to show his death again but Spider-man isn't Spider-man without uncle Ben it's the main point of his character, just like Bruce wayne's parents. I've heard that bullshit before and it's a poor excuse. I'm talking about Thor in endgame and Thors movies, they didn't do Asgard and Thor as a character justice. Hulk needs his own movies and should have a goddamn healing factor at least. The nick Fury thing is an example of how Marvel undercuts things, they choose comedy over badassery.
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
Well if you look at my statement above. Do you want it to just copy comic panels? I am pretty sure even Stan Lee was quoted before his untimely death stating that he liked that these stories are different from his own.

If you have watched Civil War there is a whole scene of him talking about his 'M.O.' and why he wants to be Spider-Man. I hope you know they are also building a spider-verse so you can look forward to that, I am sure they will explore all that in Spider-Man No Way Home.

So you disliked Thor's character arc as a whole? I thought it was fine.

Oh yeah you mean like the time where they threw comedy into the Bucky Captain America and Iron Man fight? Or whenever everyone was snapped away. Or whenever Iron Man snapped his fingers? Or when Hulk beat Abomination? There is a balance there are badass things we have gotten, sad, happy, comedic, etc.
BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
Spider-Man without Uncle Ben could work if Only the Writers actually establish Uncle Ben and seeing how much Bens death affected Peter, its so insulting to the comics to make a Spider-Man Film without at least flashbacks to Uncle Ben, I Would've used Flashbacks to show how much Ben was to Peter and how his Death Affected him to be a Better Person
cw6334
cw6334 9 d
The MCU is Overrated
36 months member
@BlotskyA you know you may be right that could have really made an interesting or different kind of arc for Peter. I just think that Spider-Man in Sam Raimi and The Amazing series already did Uncle Ben and one of them did it well and honestly just having a singular Spider-Man story showing Peter focused on Uncle Ben or those motivations might have deterred from the wider universe because Spider-Man: Homecoming was more of a coming of age type of story or finding your purpose.
BlotskyA
The MCU is Overrated
21 months member
we could've gotten at least Flashbacks which really wouldn't hurt because we're seeing Uncle Ben for a Few Minutes
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Tyrannus
The MCU is Overrated
25 months member
They were trying to be funny rather than showing respect to epic characters.
Pedrof
Pedrof 10 d
The MCU is Overrated
15 months member
I agree.