Thanos (MCU)vsHulk (MCU)

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MoNsTeR
MoNsTeR 22 h 50 m
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Thanos Already Won Superior Every Way
Taurus
Taurus 29 d
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Hulk (MCU) Please, if you're going to downvote me, at least tell me what I said is incorrect (and how).
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Mr_Incognito
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
not voted ^@Everyoneonthissite Facts
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 24 d
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not voted @Mr_Incognito You can't just say that and not actually explain why
Mr_Incognito
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
not voted If someone is going to downvote me, i want to know why. Otherwise, it's just petty. If i'm not insulting or threatening anyone and just voicing my opinion, I want to know what i said is wrong and how it is wrong.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 23 d
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not voted Ignore them and explain why you think facts are reasons to downvote @Taurus
Mr_Incognito
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
not voted I think you misunderstand. I'm saying "Facts" as in the slang, meaning that's the truth.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 23 d
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not voted Oh. Well I feel like an idiot
Mr_Incognito
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
not voted No worries. Not a phrase everyone uses
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 2 d
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Hulk (MCU) Skill: Thanos
Strength: Hulk*
Durability: Hulk*
Speed: Hulk*
Power: Hulk*
Winner: Whoever has Uru armor and gauntlet
*Factor in Hulk's potential for unlimited power

Edit: Please, someone prove me wrong.
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) There's no need to prove anything dude, the facts are facts and that already indicates you're wrong.
Taurus
Taurus 29 d
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Hulk (MCU) Facts: Thanos defeated Hulk while wearing a full suit of armor and holding the infinite gauntlet with the power stone in it (yes, I know what the hulk-hating Russos have said, but even if we trust those notorious liars, he still has an Uru glove that's holding the most powerful thing in the universe).
MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Thanos never used the power gem against Hulk therefore it didn't mean anything, wtf do you say?
Taurus
Taurus 29 d
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Hulk (MCU) Yup, he only used a glove stronger than Mjolnir, as we see because its capable of withstanding the stones.
MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) It also doesn't matter if Thanos had the armor on or not because Hulk didn't even hit almost Thanos practically dodged all so that the result of the battle would not have been otherwise.
MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Why is the Mjolnir mentioned here?
Taurus
Taurus 29 d
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Hulk (MCU) lol wtf are you talking about, Hulk ragdolled Thanos even with the armor and pinned him against the wall, beginning to choke him. So no, if Hulk can move Thanos more than any other person who fought Thanos, while he is wearing armor not holding back, then in a fair fight with more room there's a good (99.8%) chance he will get angry and by then, its too late. "But Thor did it!" This isn't Thanos' film though, he won't get a powerup.
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Dusk_Pikachu
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) And when Thanos was pinned, he was strong enough to easily remove Hulk's hands from his neck. In their battle, it looked like Thanos didn't even need strength to win. .
MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Bro if you were the sufficiently attentive you would notice that Hulk attacked Thanos by surprise and for that reason he used as a "ragdolled'' him gaving somes coups, but when Hulk hit him against the wall you saw how Thanos took his hands off him (proving be stronger than Hulk) and there the counterattack began.
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Dusk_Pikachu
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) And, Thanos wasn't even putting in a lot of effort - Hulk was struggling.
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Taurus
Taurus 29 d
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Hulk (MCU) See so that's why the Russos are inconsistent. Hulk consistently lifts incredible amount of weight, like how in his weak form and after fighting the infinity stones and snapping everyone back into the universe, he gets bombed and then holds up millions of tons with one arm. Thanos struggles to lift Hulk when he didn't just snap, and he used Hulk's momentum. Hulk in the MCU weighs around half a ton. So we can say either: the Russos don't know the Hulk, and its an inconsistency and not counted OR Thanos used the stones. There's no other explanation. It cut away from the gauntlet. The Russos don't alter the Marvel universe with every lie they give. Also, Hulk was angry, that is not him struggling, because the Russos made him make a stupid face when he's surprised, meaning he wasn't struggling.

You think its a coincidence that one of the only showings which would mean Thanos is on par or stronger than the Hulk happens to be when there's a question of him using the power stone? If the Russos all of a sudden say that Endgame wasn't real, it was just Tony's hallucination as he died in space, would it mean its true? No. If they wanted something to be real, they should've made it clear in the movie. Otherwise, we take the most logical explanation which is Thanos used the power stone.

Oh and I mentioned Mjolnir because we know how powerful it is, and I was putting the gauntlet in perspective.
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ManofPower
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
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Hulk (MCU) Ok for durability and speed, Thanos takes that. While Hulk was almost knocked out by a Awakened Thor, Thanos without the stones easily took him out. Although Hulk did take Thor down after the almost K.O IIRC, But even so, Thor Post Ragnarok with Mjolnir got wrecked by Thanos, if it wasn't for Captain America, Thor would be dead. So you could actually argue Thanos to be stronger, but Thor has never fought Hulk at his angriest on screen appearance (The Incredible Hulk 2008) So it can't be truly taken at a valid stand point. Thanos only overpowered Hulk by 1) having leverage and 2) Hulk wasn't all that angry. He was trying to show dominance but he wasn't really that angry, sure he was angry cause half of the asgardians died but still. Anyways, I went off point. Thanos has taken strikes from awakened Thor while Hulk (although not that angry) was nearly knocked out.
ManofPower
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
2 year member
Hulk (MCU) Now for speed, Hulk and Thanos should be comparable to each other. Thanos has shown more impressive speed feats imo but idk. But Endgame Thanos could beat an average Hulk. But if we take Hulk at his angriest and then multiply his feats and such, it could very well go to The Incredible Hulk.
MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) @Dusk_Pikachu You answer or I do it?
RajinKabir
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) I believe thanos takes this fight
Taurus
Taurus 28 d
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Hulk (MCU) In terms of traveling speed, Hulk is way above Thanos. Thanos at his fastest can't even outrun an average human (and he is barely stronger than Eddie Hall! Eddie hall lifted approximately MCU Hulk's weight, not using momentum but it wasn't over his head, and he struggled more). Hulk however, is extremely fast. Combat speed, people may think Thanos is way better than Hulk but the reason it looked like that was because of his skill. Correct me if I am wrong, Hulk landed more hits on Thor than vice versa in their gladiator match, meaning Hulk is at least as much of a lightning bruiser as Thor (if we exclude cheap-shots, they are equal). Durability and healing factor go hand in hand, so they might tie on this one. I say this because Tony made Thanos bleed when he had an almost full gauntlet. Yeah I know it was a little. But Tony with a much bigger suit with more raw brute force was pounding Hulk like no tomorrow and not a drop of blood. Yeah he spits out a tooth (only for Tony to apologize, not quip, nobody could hear him, and the get wrecked by Hulk and when his unlimited supply of spare parts gets destroyed by Hulk, who isn't dumb, he decides to drop a sky scraper, successfully removing the spell to come down Hulk so he could be put to sleep), but do you see a missing tooth on Banner or Hulk? He likely loosened his tooth, and then his healing factor made another one which popped out the first one, who knows. But the only time Hulk bleeds a substantial amount in the MCU is when Fenris continuously held her bite on his leg (again, some YTers have calculated her bite force, and its insanely strong). Now one might say that Hulk bled more, which is true, but not as people think it. Cut yourself, then cut yourself under water (what's more rushing water). You would see the if the cut is anything more than a slight nick, it spreads faster in the water. Evidence: When Fenris bites him, you don't even see skin breaking, if there was then Hulk's healing factor healed over it immediately I guess. Another reason his blood was flowing a lot (the current) is that Hulk is ripped, and muscle uses blood to pump itself up, meaning he has WAY more blood flow then the average person (or Thanos). Also, Hulk would wreck fat Thor. The only reason Thor ever got good hits on him were pretty much his speed and skill, and that's gone now. Hulk: strength, traveling speed, possibly durability, possibly healing factor, possibly combat speed, possibly power; Non-stationary, this is based on a just transformed Hulk also Banner's brain >>> Thanos' brain >>> Hulk's brain; Professor Hulk possesses the brain of Banner (is Banner).

In a fair fight, everyone with no gear or armor and in a widespread area, Hulk beats every character (not just Avenger) in a brawl 100%, nobody would be able to put him down at first and once he gets angry its too late. If they could use other powers, then Hulk could be taken out, but I'd say he still wins overall 62% (based on the characters who could beat him) of the battles in a fair fight to the finish. Nobody has ever beaten the Hulk in a fair fight to the finish, and they never will. If any character wants to try and put down the Hulk through physical means, they better own some nice armor. The only way someone can put down the Hulk is by using means other then their own, or they could run I guess. But in a fair fight, in a REAL fight, Hulk would take a beating, and then give Thanos the Loki treatment.
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Dusk_Pikachu
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Hulk literally got beat up by a holding-back Thor with weapons which were nowhere near Hulk's weapons. Thor didn't even use ANY lightning and when he did, The Grandmaster cheated and tased Thor when he was about to blast Hulk into an undiscovered universe, far from this here.

Thanos didn't win in a fair fight because Hulk had the first moves* and Thor (Ragnarok) didn't win because the Grandmaster cheated. Thor was also holding back against a Hulk who was in an uncontrollable state (being in this form for... how much? 2 years?)
Hulk lost to Hulkbuster who was also holding back a bit. Hulk landed less punches on Hulkbuster than he did to Hulk. Hulk also got punched so hard, the ground underneath him shattered.
Slim_Shady
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) If it's comparison about powers than thanos can defeat all avengers at once

He lost on movies only reason is he is villain nothing more.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 24 d
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not voted Thor wasn't holding back. After the first punch he realsied he Hulk wouldn't listern so attempted to beat him down instead.
Hulk was also caught off guard when Hulk-Buster sucker punched him. Bare in mind every hit Stark was doing weren't really slowing Hulk down. He was able to tear his arm off.
Dusk_Pikachu
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Thor didn't want to beat him down. Or at least knock him out. Thor tried to help Hulk. He wanted to calm him down.

Hulk wasn't holding back. Here are some reasons:
1 He had been in Hulk form for really long.
2 People feared him when he fought on earth. On Sakaar, he wanted to fight because he was cheered
for it.
3 Thor reminded Hulk of Bruce Banner.

Gladiator Thor without lightning was able to put down Hulk with one hammer blow. With lightning and without holding back, he actually bested Hulk. He started turning the crowd on his side. He made Hulk really mad and still continued destroying him.
Thor might be to fast for Hulk. Hulk swung his arm at him and Thor dodged... Hulk fell down 😂
This sounds dumb, but Thor also may have better healing. He and Hulk got knocked down and Thor got up first, picked up the hammer and attacked Hulk who was still on the ground.
Thor realised after 1 punch, 1 kick and many smashings.

On the picture above, I show Thanos smiling, easily removing Hulk's arms from his neck. Thanos actually lifted Hulk up and send him crashing onto the floor. His healing factor wouldn't have helped, Thor interfered and Heimdall did too.

Hulk is like Cull Obsidian, he tries to win with mindless attacks which obviously won't defeat Thanos. Thanos's combat variety is impressive, as seen how he defeats Hulk with ease. He dodges Hulk's attacks and attacks with accurate preciseness. He even attacks Hulk on his pressure points whereas Hulk randomly strikes. This is how Thanos easily defeated Hulk.

This time, Hulk won't be able to take the first attacks. Hulk will go for a contest in sheer strength, durability and power. Thanos has been able to give pain to Hulk. When Thanos punches on his face, Hulk does a sound of pain. Thanos with combat skills and a double-sided sword gives him another advantage in battle. So I must say Thanos wins in all three subjects and wins the battle (actually stomps).
Crazy_Boy
Crazy_Boy 1 mo 6 d
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Thanos (MCU) Already happened
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Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 6 d
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Hulk (MCU) But it never happened twice.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 2 d
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not voted I killed someone, but i guess it doesn't matter since it never happened twice!
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 23 h 57 m
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Hulk (MCU) Ah, my child, you may have forgotten a bit of dialogue between Thor and the Guardians in IW which I was referring to.
Facts >>> Random analogy that doesn't even pertain to the topic at hand
If you don't like the truth, go spew nonsense at the God of Thunder.

Edit: I'm assuming that if somebody downvotes but doesn't explain how I'm wrong, they just don't like the truth.
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Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 7 h 48 m
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not voted I wasn't the one who downvoted you, just fyi. I'm above such pettiness.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 5 h 50 m
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) I didn't assume it was you though.
Mr_Incognito
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
not voted Just making sure you knew
Slim_Shady
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Fact is hulk can't even defeat iron man
But thanos easily handle all avengers ,
Hulk never did something like that.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 9 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) Someone wanna debate?
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 1 mo 9 d
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Thanos (MCU) Thanos resisted all of Hulk's attacks before absolutely smacking his === and was about to kill him before Heimdall rescued him.

Thanos's strength, durability and skill is higher than The Hulk's.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 7 d
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Hulk (MCU) Thanos didn't tank nothing, he was wearing a full set Uru armor, the material that Thanos used for his helicopter blade, which he tore through the Avengers and shattered Cap's unbreakable vibranium shield with. Thanos doesn't know how Hulk works. He may have THOUGHT he was going to kill him, but in reality his healing factor would most likely stop that. The only reason Heimdall sent him to earth was 1) Thor told him to mentally 2) Earth needed Banner, not Thor 3) He was in the perfect position. But the main reason... 4) Hulk saved Heimdall's texas. Remember when the legendary god-killer Fenris was about to swallow Heimdall along with the Asgardians? Heimdall owed him one, big time.

The only thing Thanos has on the Hulk is skill, albeit a lot. Speed, strength, durability, and all physical aspects go to Hulk. Thanos could barely lift Hulk, who is what in the MCU, a ton? Not only that, Thanos was using Hulks momentum to lift him up. Pales in comparison to Hulk, a just transformed base Hulk (apparently super weak) one-shotted a leviathan. Nobody in the MCU could've done that by physical means. Also, the right cross looked like he had a full swing, but in reality, he only fully transformed an inch away from the leviathan, meaning Hulk basically one-inch punch, one-shotted a freaking leviathan. He also lifted Fenris (by the jaws! youtubers have calculated the estimate of Fenris' bite force, gotta go check that out again) with apparent ease, which is way harder due to the fact he was submerged in water, and Fenris was struggling like hell. We know that Thanos was seemingly killed (reality stone) by a slit to the throat (from what, a pocket knife?), and his traveling speed is amazingly slow. The only time we see Thanos go full armor beast mode: When he beat the tar out of the Hulk, and when he ragdolled the trinity simultaneously like all hell.
*Instead of downvoting me, prove I'm wrong. Unless you're just mad that I'm right.
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 5 d
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Thanos (MCU) @Tarus:
The Russos contacted me from the spirit realm and told me to avenge them because they were stuck there because you are using so much Death of the Author that the author is dead.

You do realize that because Thanos overpowered Hulk, he scales to him meaning he could do all that aswell? Russos confirm this
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 5 d
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Hulk (MCU) @Dark_Wing
Oh really? The last time I heard from those fools they were trying to tell me that comic Thanos and Hulk had no healing factor. Stan Lee has been dead for a while you're kinda late.

He could? Then how come he struggled when lifting what, a ton? The only things that the Russos have confirmed are that they are inconsistent, know nothing about the comics, and hate the Hulk.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 mo 5 d
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Thanos (MCU) When the he'l did they say that? T'was a joke, also Stan Lee didn't make every MCU movie thusfar, that honor goes to the Russos!

Lifting strength is separated from striking strength. Just because I can rip apart a cardboard box doesn't mean I can lift it. When did he struggle to lift a ton? I want to see that. How are they inconsistent? If they hate the Hulk so much then why did they say he's a near equal to Thanos in strength with Thanos only winning because of better martial arts skill? Where's your evidence they hate Hulk?

Also how does Hulk win a fight he's already lost?
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 3 d
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Hulk (MCU) That's what they were TRYING to tell us (like lots of other BS marvel fans were fed). When asked why Hulk's damaged arm was permanent even though he has a healing factor, they basically said that Thanos and Hulk would never heal from the gauntlet damage because their healing factors are too weak, even though "Thanos is nearly invincible". I know that t'wasn't funny; the Russos piggy-backed off of Stan's creations. Stan's word >x∞ Feige + Russos
Failing Hulk and his fans, including the greatest Hulk fan who ever lived aka Stan Lee, that honor goes to the Russos!
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Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 3 d
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Hulk (MCU) Striking strength? You mean when Hulk nearly knocked over Surtur? Or maybe when a just transformed Hulk one-shots a leviathan? Could it be when Hulk punches Fenris to her death while he was drowning? Maybe him sending Thor flying with single punches? Perhaps being superior to Man-Thing, Beta Ray Bill, Ares, Bi-Beast, and Dark Crawler? Maybe him ripping apart Hulkbuster like paper, or touching Widow and making her fly, or obliterating Loki with zero difficulty, or one-shotting Ultron Prime to hell (albeit a heavily damaged one), giving Ultron the Loki treatment after being blasted by the quinjet, or maybe something else? Yes, some of those aren't exactly striking power, but I can add more if you'd like. Anyhow, the cardboard box analogy doesn't really work, how do you rip it without having the ability to lift it? That's not the point though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Hulk in the MCU weighs less than a ton. Thanos pulled Hulk (who wasn't struggling) up using his momentum and still struggled, you could hear him. They're inconsistent as there are many plot holes in Endgame and Infinity War, or created by them, and them and Feige (more Feige though) are notorious liars when it comes to Marvel. They tweaked the trailers to get more money, like putting Hulk where really it was Iron Man, and other things. But one of the worst was when Feige (the Russos and Feige confirmed eachother's lies so each one is a double feat) fed us BS about IW, telling us that this is the "final chapter", "all deaths are permanent" "trust us". Serial liar, not fit for his position.
Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 3 d
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Hulk (MCU) The following answer(s) provides more details for the previous answer: They hate the Hulk (never said 'so much' but I guess you're right) and it's pretty obvious. The only thing that stopped them from completely excluding the Hulk from there movies (some parts would be better, they didn't have time for a Hulk vs Thanos fight scene, but they had time for the Hulk dabs and gives taco to Antman (and more) scenes?), was that they hate HULK, not Bruce Banner (saying that Infinity War was for Bruce to get a chance to be the badass is false, Bruce is as badass as there is in the first Avengers, less in A2 or Thor though) or Mark Ruffalo (so that's exactly what they turned Hulk into). The Hulk is just CGI to them. They don't give a ****. They said that Hulk is near equal because they didn't care once they ruined Hulk's image. They just didn't want people too upset at them so they just spewed some random ****. Notice how the Russos went out of their way to make some characters more powerful and able to contend with Thanos ( for ex Captain America ) (and the exact opposite with Hulk, how they burnt his arm as an excuse for not fighting Thanos or fighting period in the final battle, they added in so many scenes after its re-release, why the hell didn't they add a Hulk fight scene???). But they also went out of their way to make Hulk look like a weak, scared, measly, stupid little punk. Not only did they use the infamous worf effect on the Hulk, to make Thanos look better, they went out of their way with totally unrelated things just to make Hulk look bad! People say, "hey, but Thanos always beats the Hulk in the comics". Yeah, but if a Thanos as weak as depicted in the MCU were to fight comic Hulk, not any fight though, a slugfest, he would be one-shotted (and in the comics, not only would he use some sort of cowardly trick and not fight him directly like in IW, but he would do WAY better in all his other fights in the films, not even close to proportional to Hulk). They were lazy so they decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone (in their case maybe six): Make Thanos look good, and simultaneously make Hulk look bad. Then, they used Thanos to make everyone ELSE look good (Captain Marvel the most, probably, SJW pandering for extra mula, though to be fair that's more Feige, the Russos handled CM pretty decent IMO) That's how. Joss Whedon, who had WAY less resources and all managed to make the best Avengers Hulk movie. But the characters in Infinity War and Endgame are WAY better than they were back then (as the Hulk got consistently worse by each movie, the other characters grew in almost direct proportion to how he fell). Besides for Hulk. Oh no, but it gets worse...not only do they want to ruin Hulk's future, they attempt to screw up his past! The nerve! The only good showing of the Hulk in Avengers and they go back in time to try and retcon Hulk to be a goof. Lemme ask you...if Hulk was talking that much in Avengers (besides for the fact that they changed his voice), then how come in Age of Ultron, he doesn't speak a word! Inconsistency is the answer. Hate and inconsistency. They make a goofball Hulk, at least show us how he came about, just some stupid lip service, not only that, they make this possessed Shrek of a Hulk make fun of the real Hulk, the one we know and love. The nerve! They basically are trying to say that Hulk was a failure until now. They improved him. They "fixed" him. We should thank them. NO! On the contrary. They made him unable to fight ever again! They ruined his arm (Hulk was set up for failure, they only gave Hulk that feat for a good excuse to roast Hulk's right arm permanently, which they could have had him heal or get stronger, because I thought he was "made for it"? The gamma radiation should've done that, just like how they could have easily said that Thanos used the power stone, because why else was he just lying there waiting to be strangled? They need to learn how to depict a powerful fight, not a boxing match. That's another thing. I don't necessarily hate the Russos because of their lack of skill, as they are at the top of their game, it's BECAUSE they are so talented, they have no excuse as to why the Hulk was ruined for the most part. And the fact that they need to explain to us what's going on with the Hulk, why he didn't want to come out + gauntlet + more, instead of it being obvious, should mean that they are atrocious writers. But they're in another mother freaking league, so why when it happens to be arguably the two best movies in the MCU, they're Hulk's two worst movies in the MCU? So it's not only because of their lazy plot holes and retcons, because everyone makes mistakes right (just ask Mrs. Russo, Imao jk)? But this is no mistake. And it's very personal. Maybe Hulk reminds them of the bully that used to give them swirlys who knows.)
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Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 3 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) "We're about to give Hulk one of the best feats ever in the MCU (because we wanna ruin his fighting career for good), but we don't like him, so how can we downplay this? Ah, I got it! He'll say he was made for it, and people will think he's defective! Haha get pranked Hulk fans" and people will say "hey, Hulk could only do it because he was made for it. And look! He's screaming like a lil' b****! haha! He can barely snap wow so weak". Then they give him a feat that the average viewer can't comprehend, ie the wreckage scene (side point, many viewers thought Dr. Strange was the one who brought the snapped Avengers back), and then he gets saved by freaking Antman (if Antman becomes so much stronger when he's big, hit Hulk with the disk for auto-win!). They could have done ANYTHING! They could have hinted at Maestro (they say "in the next they'll make up for it!" But we've been down this road before. By now, we're used to Hulk being used. A1, show us how powerful Hulk is. A2, shows us how powerful Tony's new suit is, at the expense of Hulk. Thor3, shows us Thor's new upgrade and how powerful it is, at the expense of Hulk. A3, shows us how powerful Thanos is at the expense of Hulk. Endgame, shows us how powerful the stones are at the expense of the Hulk. At this point, the only thing IMO that can redeem Hulk is for Hulk to become the villain. That way, the writer can make him powerful) (or other carnations of Hulk, Kluh comes to mind) or shown something between Banner Hulk or Nat (when Hulk snapped), they could have had Hulk get pissed and throw off the wreckage (were they going for Secret Wars?), they could have at least showed us how Banner "merged" (murdered) Hulk (are they trying to tell us that Hulk was not a separate being like previous movies suggest, and instead just a result of dissociative identity disorder, and they simply cured him? If there's any left Hulk there besides for a watered down version of his body, then how come he still speaks of Hulk in the third person, not like Hulk does but like Banner used to, and how come only Bruce's spirit was there when the Ancient One did the thing on him, how in the world does Banner who says he's always angry + Hulk who says he's always angry = overstuffed green teddy bear who's always happy and goofy? How come the other Avengers get to be pissed off, but not Hulk, who is known for it? How come he seems like Banner from Ragnarök in a slightly weaker hulk...there's so much more), they could have made him throw at least ONE god damn punch at Thanos (but no, they couldn't have him be mindless as it defeats his arc. Fine then at least make Prof Hulk do it!), they could have made him throw one god damn punch PERIOD, all Hulk ever punched in the film was the ground (I don't count half-second frames of him hitting a one- shot nothing that's been beaten by Cap), when Widow died, which is another thing, people were debating whether it would be worth it if Widow died and we got the Worldbreaker, but guess what? Worst of both worlds! Widow died (both Banner AND Hulk would have gone berserk in unison) and Hulk threw a mother freaking bench for elderly Cap to sit on, huge missed opportunities at every turn (and hype was huge, they failed to match expectations, it was there fault though, don't try and make something seem much better than it really is and stunt the film, I saw on Reddit a few users were saying how cool it would be that we'll have Worldbreaker Hulk AND King Thor in one movie, but boy could they have been more wrong ...smh...also, why did they rip up Thor's arc? He's the king of Asgard what is this ****?! At least they rocked Thor in the first movie. Hulk was pretty rotten all the way through. You know where the priorities lie, because they would never do a worf on Captain America (their favorite character in case you didn't know), that's what they infused in Endgame, Winter Soldier but damn, those were some good scenes. It makes me sad to think that I would have enjoyed these movies to no end and even would respect the bros...), in Infinity War for instance they could have had the REAL Hulk have a REAL fight with Thanos, same outcome just more back and forth, like in Ragnarök. Also, why did Hulk just stand there after Thanos let go of his arms? That isn't realistic! When did the Hulk start whimpering and making dumbass faces? He took many powerful blows and just got angrier, Thor using Mjolnir + Hulk's momentum to whack Hulk upside the face and across the room. What did Hulk do? Get angry and throw a jet wing at Thor? There's so much though I can't list them all.
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Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 3 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) They could have had Hulk go toe to toe with Cull Obsidian when he and Maw first arrived on earth, or in Wakanda, they could have made it less awkward between Banner and Nat, they could have not made Bruce seem like a fool (they managed to make a genius look like an idiot?), making *War Machine (speaking of War Machine, the person who plays him is Don Cheadle as you might know, and he was evaluated by professionals that he was being passive aggressive towards Brie (again, I don't like piggy back riders OR their piggy back riding movie) Larson (not unlike other cast members). But when accused of this, he flat out denies it. Why? Don doesn't get pleasure in hating her, its not like he's proud of it, he just does. So when it came to his image, he would deny it all because he didn't want to ruin things, he doesn't care what people think though, he knew what was real. Now compare this to the Russos. Do you expect them to bluntly state that they hate the Hulk's green guts? No, they don't want trouble they are not that dumb, they know how to be discreet, they know how to concoct a flawless formula for defeating the Hulk.) (*who shows respect to Black Panther like one would to a king in CW) make him do stupid things, and make a character that nobody in particular cares about (a kid) seem smarter than him, they could have made Banner say less goofy things, not help spoil the continuity of Hulk and Banner, and I would much have preferred it if they made Hulk and Banner come to an agreement there so he could fight as Hulk, and then they would have to (give us something real in Endgame because THAT won't be an option, and why didn't they at least let Hulk or even Hulkbuster trade a few punches with Thanos at the end of IW? They could have cut so many crinqy out of place scenes and gave us something at least half decent (everyone had high expectations for Endgame and especially for Hulk, and even though Endgame was solid they let us down. Huge missed opportunities, one of the main being an OG Avenger moment, if this was supposed to be their send-off. Pretty much every one of the OG Avenger's character Arcs could have been done at the start of the MCU. Iron Man showed that since since Avengers 1 he was willing to sacrifice himself. And speaking of Iron Man, the Russos said that the only reason Iron Man had to be the one was that he was closest, this makes his sacrifice feel stupid, he would have done this before plus he would die anyway why not go out knowing you saved the universe, and also, it feel like there was nothing special about Iron Man besides for that he was the closest? Than why didn't Strange tp Hulk or someone who can survive using the stones to Thanos (btw, the Russos pretty much confirmed that only Thanos and Hulk (thanks for this at least Russos, I guess it could have been worse...but BARELY) can wield the gauntlet and survive, Carol or Thor or anyone else would die)? And it not one other circumstance, Hulk is closer?
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Taurus
Taurus 1 mo 3 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) Anyhow, people needed to see the Hulk after IW, so they just showed us a bunch of steaming garbage and insignificant scenes that literately accomplished nothing, or him basically screwing up their mission by smashing Tony. There were so many scenes and times where the Avengers could've done stuff way more efficiently, a couple surrounding Hulk being why didn't they get Eitri to help make them a new gauntlet, and side point why didn't Eitri build a fail safe? Kinda off topic. But people understandably might tell a Hulk fan, "hey stop whining, Hulk got to use the stones and stuff!" Then the Hulk fan feels a bit better. Now he's debating that same person. He uses Hulk's feats from Endgame. Person: "You kidding? Hulk's feats are nothing in Endgame Iol! He was the most useless person in the whole film! Now we see we don't need Hulk for an Avengers movie xD" Hulk fan then proceeds to hate this person AND Endgame and IW and their near useless Hulks, and all hypocritical liars as well.) they could have made him fight his past self (cause they are actually different people, unlike the Caps who are the exact same, and why didn't future Cap use Loki's staff, and if Cap kept getting stronger every movie, then how does this battle fatigued Cap beat a future version of himself who's not tired (I liked how Cap used key points to trick characters, it was hella neat, but fr I'm just glad the Russos weren't Mantis fans or something, I shudder to think...)?, they could have made him fight Cull Obsidian again, this time not as Iron Man, (how come almost every character in the final battle, including nameless randos, got a shot at Thanos? How come Captain marvel and other b- listers got to fight Thanos, but not Hulk? Correct me if I'm wrong but CM had 3 fights with Thanos in total (just one movie however, her first and only avenger movie), and the rest of the OG Avengers (barring the obvious ones) got a team up and countless scraps between them and Thanos, but it was never the fab four, even some support characters who support support characters, got to go a few rounds with ‭Thanos?), and the list goes on, all of things which would have lasted under a minute... (there were complications and some parts of my comment was deleted, including the newest version) I could keep listing inconsistencies and Hulk spite if I haven't shown enough already. Or is that evidence enough for you?

How did Thor?
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 5 h 19 m
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) @Taurus Your way of debating is the true definition of talking a lot and not being completely objective when discussing a winner, using as an excuse the fact that Thanos "growled" while lifting Hulk to make him look less strong than the green friend it's really stupid (for example), for the next time you should to use more solid arguments. I can mention the fact that INDUSCUTIBLY Thanos left the Hulk easily wrong in IW and only using that argument I already have more weight than all the paragraphs that you wrote.
Taurus
Taurus 29 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) @MrJaeger07 If you were a bit more observant, you would notice that maybe 1% of what I typed was debating Hulk vs Thanos (also debating how Russos hate Hulk, how they messed up and are inconsistent liars, and that their word means absolutely nothing, and other topics). And Thanos did not "growl", he grunted, when lifting a ton! Pathetic! You're way of debating is being closed minded and not looking out for obvious things. You only use things that are "common knowledge". Tell me this: If every physical character (excluding beings on Surtur+ level) were to have nothing but a pair of ripped khaki shorts, meaning a fair fight where everyone has the same gear, taking place in a flat open plane where everyone could fight to the best of their abilities. Now, if you want to lie to yourself that's fine, but you can't deny the fact that if people weren't using any powers or weapons, just doing the same stuff, Hulk would kick everyone's ass. Even if they were using their powers, Hulk would most likely come out on top. Thanos might beat Eddie Hall in the strongman, but that's pretty much the extent of his strength.
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) 1) What do you base yourself on saying that the Russos hate Hulk? 2) Why do you think that because I use logic (common knowledge) I am already being a "closed mind" when debating? 3) Why do you think that because Hulk doesn't use armor, he already has more resistance than those who do use one? just's curiosity...
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Taurus
Taurus 29 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) 1) Lol did you even read any damn thing I wrote??? It answers pretty much everything you want to know but here you go.
2) Because you are only saying that whatever bull the Russos feed you is correct. If I wasn't a Hulk fan yes, I wouldn't be saying he wins necessarily, because if I would most likely ignore the blatant truth for the most part.
3) Let's analyze some of Hulk's (main) fights in the MCU briefly, shall we? Hulk vs Thor (pre-upgrade): Thor has armor and weapons, Hulk has nothing, and you say Hulk surprised Thanos? So did Thor and Hulk still gave him the Loki treatment. Hulk vs Loki: 'Nuff said. Hulk vs Hulkbuster: Hulkbuster is literally a suit of armor, not only that it was made by two super geniuses, one of whom knows exactly what it is needed to defeat the Hulk. They use traps and spare parts and if not for the spell on Hulk or the cheap tricks of Hulkbuster, Hulk would've squished tony a minute into the fight. Hulk vs Ultron (2 times): One-shotted one then gave another Ultron Prime the Loki treatment after he tried to blast him with a quinjet, Ultron is vibranium. Hulk vs Thor (post-upgrade): They both have weapons but mainly Thor is using them, once Hulk gets serious he one-shots Thor, and if not for being his movie, Thor wouldn't have gained such a huge power-up after hallucinating of his dad due to Hulk smashing the utter sh*t outta him. Even though Hulk knocked him out, Thor had a very good chance of winning. But then again not from physical means, Thanos doesn't have lightning. So that's why. He consistently tanks damage that would shatter Iron Man's best suits or KO Thor.
So tell me: Where did someone ever fight Hulk without some sort of advantage, just fair fight with same gear, in an open space so people could use their abilities, and when Hulk got angry fighting them and they managed to beat him anyway? Hulk vs Thor: Hulk was about to smash Thor if it weren't for Mjolnir or the fighter jet. Notice how in the beginning Thor could compete with him but by the end, Hulk was wrecking him? Yeah that's all of Hulk's fights. Hulk vs Hulkbuster: Hulkbuster was using cheap tricks and Hulk was confused but nonetheless Hulkbuster was doing decently, but towards the end of the fight its evident that Hulk got stronger towards the end. Remember how Hulk spit out a tooth and Tony apologized to him? Yeah then Hulk wrecked him. They made it clear that Hulk was superior, just MCU Iron Man has more fans so they couldn't have Hulk kill him off. Hulk vs Thor (2): Thor is on par with Hulk at first, but once Hulk gets mad he one-shots Thor.

So here its obvious that the only reason anyone survived fighting the Hulk was from something other than their own strength, someone saving them or something, especially after Hulk gets angry, which is inevitable he's the Hulk. Thanos won't have any of this in a fair fight, so down he goes.

So do you have any example of someone taking down hulk in a fair fight, so maybe Thanos DOES stand a chance? just curiosity...
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) In a nutshell, are you implying that Hulk wasn't himself in his fight against the Hulkbuster? he didn't use his true strength and he was '' confused '' You've already exceeded the limit of stupidity lol, Hulk crushed Thor in Ragnarok? hahaha not even if the movie was Hulk there was a minim possibility that it would happen, I mean just when Thor contracting his powers to the maximum was about to kick the Hulk's ass, the second biggest fanboy of Hulk (after you of course) came to knock out the god of thunder with a device that affects the spinal cord and knocks anyone who carries it unconscious (no, it wasn't just voltage), so far the only thing you have done is take out as many aspects as possible to favor Hulk but don't you take into account all the other scenes? Are you literally narrating the entire MCU to me based on Hulk while making others who were there look inferior?? I can't take this debate seriously when it's the only thing you expound and nothing is consistent enough to make it clear that the Hulk would beat Thanos (MCU), you pull Hulk's 'stunts' insane and you're not objective, no matter how much you try to defend the Hulk from the MCU who never evolves, the result above will not change, be a good fan and withdraw as it should be! otherwise I will refrain from answering you again and not because I have lost the debate, but because then You will have finished demonstrating that the logical and the REAL facts are on my side.
Taurus
Taurus 29 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) You're resorting to insults but I don't really even have to comeback, you're doing that yourself. "In a nutshell", lol I'm not implying anything. I said what I said, he was freaking under a spell. Never said his true strength but his mind was impaired and even with the odds stacked against him still fought better. Nah bruh, I'll never reach it, you're WAY to high up there bruh, just another level. I swear though I don't know wtf this means "not even if the movie was Hulk there was a minim possibility that it would happen" Are you trying to tell me "in a nutshell" that if it was Hulk's movie then there's a minimal possibility it would happen? Because if you were, please speak a tad above caveman level next time. Just a bit, that's all I'm asking for. Does that sound unreasonable? Also, usually we put quotation marks (these babys ") when you're actually quoting someone, not just quoting you're own subconscious feeding you BS. Its like you write stupid things and then go, -hey, look what he said (what he didn't say)! He's so dumb!- Except its not me you're insulting its you, because I didn't think of that, you did. Why are you lying and saying that I said things that I didn't? Its hella annoying please stop thank you. Um according to you(you're exact words): " I mean just when Thor contracting his powers to the maximum was about to kick the Hulk's ass, the second biggest fanboy of Hulk (after you of course) came to knock out the god of thunder with a device that affects the spinal cord and knocks anyone who carries it unconscious (no, it wasn't just voltage)" ; So you agree with me, the only reason Thor was gonna whoop Hulk was because he was charged up (which brought me to my point that Thanos won't be able to power up to counter Hulk's own powerup). Like when Hulk smashed Thor. He did, I don't know what you're spewing. First off, I hated when Grandmaster pulled that stunt. The first time I watched it I rooted for Thor. But you have to admit its embarrassing that they made a little shock take out the God of Thunder. Like wth Taika? Anyhow, you just told me that the Grandmaster took out Thor with a device that affects the person HOLDING it? So the Grandmaster shocked himself but not only that, it affected (pulling loose ones) his spine, and made him unconscious, and the Hulk won. That's what you said. Ridiculous, I know. And btw, I'm not even trying to argue with you about Thor I was using Thor as an example because only Ragnarok Thor and Abomination got close to beating Hulk, but keep in mind: In the begining of the fights, Hulk was losing. And by the end of the fights (barring an upgrade which Thanos won't get), Hulk was angry and stronger than them. LOL. If its so inconsistent, show me all the places where Hulk is barely able to lift 1000 pounds or something else. Lol, I could name more scenes but I was writing a lot and I figured naming every significant battle he's ever fought in the MCU would be consistent, but oops! He wanted me to name every-one shot nothing that Hulk killed smh. If I make them "look inferior" (which they are), then let's hear the "true" version of it. Tell me where I lied. I could easily name a bunch of outright falsehoods in you're paragraphs. And literately the only thing you've been doing is telling me how wrong I am, that's some frivolous sh** right there. And maybe the reason you can't debate seriously is because you don't know how. All you have said was "Thanos stomp Hulk in Infinity War" Wow, good for you. You said nothing to prove my valid points wrong. Absolutely NOTHING. All you said were hypocritical lies that answer you're own questions, ie 'How do the Russos hate the Hulk'. You wanna back down? Fine, be a p***y, I don't enjoy debating you anyway.
MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Is that what you call debating with "facts"? If so, do you need to reestablish your "debate" concept, say that the Hulk was under a spell? that Thor mentally told Heimdall to save the Hulk? when did all that happen? lol anyone would have the right to resort to "insults" but I am not of that ilk luckily, you think that by doing Flood in each of your answers you're more likely to be right?, by the way I do not even bother to read it all because when i'm starting to, already I know beforehand that you're repeating the same slobbering of before with different words, I gave you the opportunity to withdraw from the debate as a good fan but if you want to do the opposite neither I'll not report you for that haha, I will only be disappointed to have thought at some point that you were a good debater and not you were blinded by fanboysm (TheNemianLion would be very disappointed in you) I have nothing more to say or anything more to prove about the subject, if you want to keep trying to make it seem like Hulk above Thanos through entanglements and unfinished facts do it, but not with me anymore (about Hulk v Thor if you want we can debate it in another place starting from 0). See you :)
Taurus
Taurus 28 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) I don't know where to start. For one, how could I be writing too much but at the same time being inconsistent? I am mentioning every other time Hulk has fought, so if anything IW is the inconsistency.

Also, does your mom happen to be a lawyer by any chance?
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Lol I didn't know that the page was about laws, that the debates were a trial and that the debaters defended their characters as a lawyer does, they are two very different things and about I was referring to with ''inconsistency'' was that you could have written less and be much more objective, the fact that you mention all Hulk fight's doesn't make a different result...
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Taurus
Taurus 28 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) Why do you literally jump to the stupidest conclusion every time I say something. Inconsistent: 'not staying the same throughout.' That's quoted directly from the web.
So which is more of an outlier (is that what you mean?): 7-8 Hulk fights that show something or 1 that's made by a hulk-hater. Take your time it's a tricky one.
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Oh, sorry if I didn't know how to express myself in the best way, with "inconsistent" I meant "lack of solidity" in everything you have exposed me.
1) I know exactly what a lawyer does (my mom is one) and that was precisely why I said that being a lawyer and what we are supposed to be doing (debating) is not the same thing, a lawyer defends his client with PROOFS that back up any claim, they don't make things up (unless the lawyer is corrupt) much less manipulate events as they want, to favor their client by ignoring other things (just like you did with Hulk) because that could later be used against him.
2) I guess you forgot to answer me: Where moment in IW was Thor seen telepathically tolding Heimdall to save Hulk from Thanos? Or where did he come out when "supposedly" Hulk lost his strength because he was being mentally manipulated and therefore Thanos easily took his hands off him? Thanos beat Hulk well, the green guy at first ambushed Thanos and gave some blows but none of them were serious or accurate, and in the hypothetical case that Thanos had not had the armor on, the result would've been the same, It should be noted that in Endgame it was seen how Scarlet Witch broke the Thanos's sword made of the ''very resistant'' Uru metal and they also showed us how the armor that ''tanked'' the Hulk's fatal blows in IW, was getting destroyed part by part, this is the why Wanda already is more powerful than Hulk? no, then don't tell me each of Hulk's feats on MCU (he lifted the Stark building for example) to make look that he was less strong in IW when he lost against Thanos.
3) Otherhand, don't habitually make use of the ''fact'' that the Russos brothers ''hate'' the Hulk as an excuse, (assuming it's true) because it's just speculation, I mean in no interview or conference they didn't never admit they hated the character or yes? Anyway, just considering all of this inconsistencies on your part, I have the right to tell you what is that, arguments that lack coherence and weight.
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Taurus
Taurus 28 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) 1) Would you be able to go up to them though if you were he defendant or something, and say something like, "You're not being consistent stop it!" Obviously I am not a lawyer but usually how it works with normal debates is you say something to back up your claim. That's what you told me, wasn't it?
2) You literally left almost all of my questions unanswered, but I guess things are different when they come to you, right? I saw the 'mental' theory on quora I think, and it makes perfect sense re-watch the full scene, full on "tolding" right there, if I ever saw it. They exchange a look, and we know that in Ragnarok they could do stuff like this. And yes, thank you, telepathic was the word I was looking for. Wow, jumping to conclusions again. I never said he lost his strength when he was put under a spell, I said you can tell Hulk is confused you can see it all you need are eyes and a brain. He looks like he's on every drug at the same time, and drunk. Wtf, come on bro, stop doing this! You're playing freaking Tetris with my words, and rearranging them into the strangest ways possible. Its evident that Thanos was using leverage to do it, we can see because Hulk can lift things over 1,000,000 times heavier than himself, while Thanos can barely lift him. Unless its an inconsistency of course, then we wouldn't have to deal with it. Wow, great points you've made there, except Uru metal was never made to withstand telekinetic attacks, and neither is Thanos. And THAT is 100% an outlier, because we've seen how much weaker she is when not freaking out. First we see that she's damn weak in Ultron, but then when her bro dies she goes ape-****, and even rips out the heart of the Ultron Prime that Hulk one-shotted that Thor, Vision, and Iron Man melted. So that's one of her movies (not counting cameos but they wouldn't change anything anyway). Next is CW. She doesn't display any feats worth mentioning of, if I missed something though please feel free to share it with me. Next is IW. She gets her ass kicked by some fodder pawn of Thanos, Her and Vision would have died if not for a bunch of regular humans, Nat, Sam, and Cap, who literally could have killed them. I just named some of the weakest avengers. Cap didn't even have his shield or proper gear, and neither did Sam or Nat. But then...(drum roll)...at the END of IW, where she's flipping out about Vision, she just so happens to hold off Thanos (who isn't dumb he could have killed her easily if he wanted to, he knew he had the Time stone) and destroy an infinity stone (which her powers came from, as she was Hydra's lab rat). So far all the evidence possible agrees with me. Let's get to the last and arguably least...Endgame, where everybody knew that Wanda was going berserk, it was obvious. So we don't have a fair showing to base a feat on. But we do know that Hulk wasn't angry, As in the fight it has the most time of him not making an angry face. Don't try and tell me Thanos would have won anyway, neither of us know that for sure. You gave me ONE showing, and I gave you over a half dozen showings, which I'm pretty sure are all the rest of his main fights, plus some more. Thor also lost to Thanos in IW, likely even worse than Hulk did, as we see his attack does zero damage. Imagine if the Guardians told Thor something like, idk, like that he already lost to Thanos. Tell Thor to his face that he's wrong. Tell him. Say that once you lose a fight, no matter the circumstance, you could NEVER get back up there and whoop his ass.
3) You clearly haven't read what I said, it answers most of your questions on this page. How idiotic would it be for the Russos to outright say that they hate a character (and wanted to ruin him)? Trust me on this one, they ain't THAT stupid. That's not even savage Hulk level intelligence.
Please, please , please, name me specific things that are incorrect. You're not my f***ing English teacher for god's sake!
MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) YES HELL YEAH! all of us already know that Thor knew how to communicate telepaty with Heimdall in Ragnarok but that already means that he also did it to ask Heimdall to save Hulk in Edgame (you made sure of that before and it was not seen when it happened) lol that gives me once more the Reason, you are speculating,
just like you were doing with the Russos brothers, I will not be so inconsiderate in saying that everything you say doesn't make sense or is wrong because it isn't like that either, but most of the things you mentioned above if they are, I already told you what they were and you are still convinced Of that, does the fact that Thanos grunted while lifting Hulk gives you the right to say that he "barely" could? But don't you notice when it was clearly seen that Thanos removed the Hulk's hands from him without much effort? It seems that I am also right when I say that you are not able to see the whole stage if that hurts your green friend, so as Captain Marvel if he was able to hold Thanos in a hand-to-hand brute force, is she already stronger than Hulk? If I say that yes I was doing the same thing that you do, Hulk was more powerful before because the consciousness of Bruce Banner did not limit him in terms of anger, he became increasingly angry and at the same time if he became stronger, and was in that version Thanos swept the floor with the Hulk, what would he not do against the latest Smart Hulk from Endgame? however, first answer all my damn questions before demanding that I answer you something because if I asked you first, you answer first, now please, please, please, tell me what am I wrong here?
Taurus
Taurus 28 d
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) The next time you go to court, try telling a lawyer there that he isn't consistent or coherent, and not say how, you'll accomplish nothing if you're lucky if you're not there's a chance the case is dismissed. But fr, you told me that my paragraphs are not coherent. That's like me telling you that your grammar is bad. Anyhow, why do you think Thor looked at Heimdall and vice-versa then? Also, who the hell cares it doesn't affect anything, its a single harmless point seriously. The fact that you attacked that just shows me that you're nitpicking on things you think you could argue about, and ignoring the things that you don't like. *Edit: it was unclear but I now know what you were trying to say. But no, Thanos was going to TRY and kill Hulk he has no clue that it won't work most likely. Thor wasn't trying to save Hulk's life, he sent him because Earth needed him.
Excuse me, you didn't provide a single legitimate argument as to how the Russos don't hate Hulk, I'm still waiting. Usually, if you lift a carton of milk, I assume you won't grunt right? Well lets see: (I'll do this as I go along) a carton of milk (a half gallon) weighs 2 pounds. Thanos picks up Hulk, who weighs approximately half a ton, with more effort than you lifting the milk carton. Hulk is able in his weak form after roasting his right side snapping and getting bombed millions of tons with one arm, with no leverage. So Thanos needs to be able to lift more than that to be stronger correct? With all the factors included we'll call it 100,000,000, being favorable to Thanos. So that means Thanos must lift around 200,000,000 times Hulk's weight (and Thanos also used his momentum but we don't have to count that). But you could lift a milk carton more easily. This means however, that you'd be able to lift 400,000,000 pounds, which is equivalent to 200,000 tons. If Thanos is stronger than Hulk, that means you're able to lift over 200,000 tons, which I'm guessing you can't do (assuming you can lift 50 pounds above your head, that means for Thanos to be stronger than Hulk you'd need to be able to lift 8,000,000 times the amount you can). So that's that. Time to move on. Captain Marvel is not even close to Hulk, Thanos, or Thor level strength. Hell, I think even Giant-Man beats her in lifting strength, Me and Dusk have already debunked that Captain Marvel "feat", so that's that. Anyway, it would mean nothing to the Hulk. Hulk is one of the characters who holds back the most in the MCU due to Banner's conscious, At the end of A1 they were a team but Hulk was still somewhat limited as to what Banner wanted him to do. And yeah, if Smart Hulk was trained and had the same gear as Thanos, he could definitely stand a chance (he's WAY stronger than Thanos as we have discovered above) I asked dozens of questions before you asked a single one, and all you did was nitpick through and try and find things that there's a chance I might be wrong. And to answer your question, pretty much all of it is wrong.
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) 1) The fact that the Hulk has supported the weight of a building is not a feat of strength, it's a feat of durability, as you saw the building literally fell on him and he could barely stand it (not to mention that it was not even the entire building, was one part of the rubble) however, who needs to prove me the fact that the Russos "hate" Hulk is you since whoever is making such that claim is yourself, I don't need to prove otherwise. 2) Can't you just be guided by the fact that Thanos grunted as he lifted ''half'' a ton, or was it a ton? Whatever you said, Thanos never showed his brute force limit and you still continue to ignore when Thanos took Hulk's hands off him, does that still tell you nothing? What makes you think that Thanos could not lift the same as Hulk apart from what you have already told me? (Which still doesn't convince me). 3) Thor and Heimdall looked at each other and did that mean the fact that Thor told Heimdall to save Bruce because Earth needed him? as likely as it may have seemed, it's still speculation, and therefore (although this word bothers you) it's still inconsistent.
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) Those are the things that are wrong for me.
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Hulk (MCU) 1) That makes zero sense whatsoever. If I throw a ball to you, and you catch it, is it durability? If anything Hulk's feat is strength AND durability. You could search it yourself, people have done the math and my milk carton comparison is pretty damn accurate. I made a claim about the Russos and brought a lot of valid evidence, you either accept it and move on or try and disprove it, its as simple as that.
2) It was half a ton (around). Now let me ask you something...you can lift the milk carton, right? And you're not even grunting! So maybe you're upper limit of strength is 200,000 tons who knows! We've never seen you try it before. Gimme a break. What does that scene tell me? It tells me that the Russos are inconsistent. Hulk consistently lifts incredible amount of weight, Thanos struggles to lift Hulk when he didn't just snap, and he used Hulk's momentum. So in response to the choking scene we can say either: the Russos don't know the Hulk, and its an inconsistency and not counted OR Thanos used the gauntlet. There's no other explanation. It cut away from the gauntlet. The Russos don't alter the Marvel universe with every lie they give. Also, Hulk was angry, that is not him struggling, because the Russos made him make a stupid face when he's surprised, meaning he wasn't struggling.
You think its a coincidence that one of the only showings which would mean Thanos is on par or stronger than the Hulk happens to be when there's a question of him using the power stone? If the Russos all of a sudden say that Endgame wasn't real, it was just Tony's hallucination as he died in space, would it mean its true? No. If they wanted something to be real, they should've made it clear in the movie. Otherwise, we take the most logical explanation which is that Thanos used the power stone.
3) This part I honestly don't care about, neither of us could prove it either way, but even if Thor was trying to save him, he didn't know that it probably wouldn't have mattered much.

Okay, those were the things that were wrong according to you, and there I settled it.
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) The example you gave of the ball doesn't match what happened and what I said made sense, why? No one expected that attack, the bombing took everyone by surprise (including Hulk) who could barely react to keep a PART of the debris, it wasn't even the entire building and much less lifted the amount of weight you mentioned before, and didn't is that I continue disapproving of your confirmations about the Russos, I only have my point of view about it, for example: if you see a 9 on the floor, you are on one side and I while I'm on the other side, I see a 6, the views are different, right? but that doesn't mean that one of the two is lying, look, I think this about it since in part I agree with you: The Russos are often inconsistent, that is true, they have been contradictory with many other characters (not only with Hulk) also with Thor, a good example would be when Thor was literally immersed in electricity and then a high voltage device knocked him out, it has also been seen how he was literally destroying the Thanos army spaceship 1 to 1 at an amazing speed! but couldn't react to a speedy metahuman who is unable to dodge some bullets? As you'll notice it's contradictory / incoherent and I could give many other examples of what I have noticed about it and I still will not have enough evidence to affirm that the Russos "hate" Thor or know nothing about the character, due to To such inconsistency, because we simply don't know that, all this also applies to you and Hulk, as for the rest of the "facts", I'm no longer interested in discussing it because we will never reach a neutral point.
So in conclusion: 1) The Hulk feat we refer to is more of endurance than strength
2) If I were you I wouldn't make such statements about those directors who are "supposed" to be professionals in what they do (although sometimes it doesn't seem so) and you've every right go to your example of the milk carton but there's a limit
3) This part honestly doesn't matter to me, it doesn't influence much the result.

Thank you for trying to clarify things for me but I still have my point of view about which of the two wins, beyond the fact that we continue to debate, unfortunately the Russos play with Hulk in the MCU as you said and it is somewhat frustrating, but we cannot change it and based on what we've seen so far, Thanos has already won and would win again a second time (from my point of view).
Taurus
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Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Hulk (MCU) Before I start I just want to let you know that you posted twice by mistake. (disregard that)
Google it if you'd like, people much more into this kinda stuff than you and I explain it much better than I have. Trust me, you won't be confused when they finish. So let's see though. The Russo brother wrote a nine, I saw it, but you, being on the other side were misinformed. You said it was a 6. True, you could flip it upside down, but what was it really in the first place? And those Thor inconsistencies are really nothing compared to the Hulk. From what you have shown its not Russos being biased against Thor, rather for him. A2 where Thor can't get Quicksilver was made by Whedon, so the Russos were inconsistent in his favor. The other things you have mentioned weren't done by the Russos. Accept I have listed dozens of inconsistencies and biased things against Hulk, I could keep going. You say its a six? Prove it. And they made Thor into the most powerful Avenger in IW. They made Hulk the weakest (compared to previous showings) Avenger in IW. See the difference? Or is this one of the times where you see the 6? You mentioning Thor hurts your point, because they are biased for him and the opposite towards Hulk, its a nice comparison ain't it? 1) Its everything. Now that you've enlightened me I realized we are both right, we could compromise. I say it was strength, you say it was endurance and durability. We'll compromise and say its all of them.
2) When I say that they are supposed to be professionals I mean (and I'm pretty sure I made it clear) that I think besides for a sh** load of inconsistencies, they are pros. I said that because since the Russos are pros, they have no excuse why the Hulk had crappy writing. So I was letting the reader choose basically: Either the Russo bros are atrocious writers, or they hate the Hulk, and are willing to lose some money and get some people pissed at them just so they could get revenge on their childhood bully. Frankly I don't know myself which is worse.
3) Same.

No, thank you for turning this back into a more friendly debate. Yes, I agree, everyone can have their point of view (as long as their point of view is not going against logic; at that point its only valid in their mind and that's where it should stay). That's why there are two voting buttons. If the Russos are playing with the Hulk, they're the people who throw a temper tantrum and end screwing up the game, and making people hate them.
I say Thanos with full armor and sword stomps the sh** outta Hulk, but that ain't a fair fight. Imagine if you're stronger than me, but I put on armor and carry a weapon. Would you call that fair? If I beat you am I stronger? If I had a suit that absorbed your punches, wouldn't you want a rematch? In the debate that we were having further up I go into specifics.
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MrJaeger07
Thanos (MCU) vs Hulk (MCU)
Thanos (MCU) I agree with everything you say, maybe the inconsistencies that the Hulk has are much more than what Thor has in the MCU, it's true and maybe you as a fan of Hulk have noticed it more than others, I perhaps would be just as frustrated if they did it with Thor, I don't have many complaints about it, why? simply the Russos bros have been inconsistent with Thor sometimes, but they're a foolishness more than anything, it doesn't influence as much (although that still bothers me as reader), maybe I do not have enough evidence to affirm that the Russos hate Thor, at least not As many as you have about what you say concerning Hulk, just like saying that they do is still a bit hasty, maybe you're right, but maybe not. So the Russos bros were inconsistent with Thor making him the strongest avenger in IW compared to what we had seen before (he couldn't alone against Hela, but he could against Thanos with the full gauntlet?) maybe he did a little bit stronger when he obtaining the Stormbreaker, but it's still somewhat out of place, I choose the Russos are more atrocious writers than are haters, however, this inconsistency didn't bother me, on the contrary, I am glad since that power buff highlighted the character I love the most, and they did with the Hulk the opposite, you're within your right to bother you, but it wasn't too bad in Endgame, I mean, he used the gauntlet and return everyone from death, endured much of the rubble's weight, etc ...
1) It seems to me well what you propose to me, you say it was strength, I say it was resistance, we see the number from two different sides and we are equally right.
2) I am more inclined to think that Russos are atrocious writers with Hulk more than haters, I don't think they're so shameless in taking revenge on their childhood bully through the great work that is the (MCU) and mixing them up.
3) Very well.

It was a pleasure that after having had a somewhat tense debate we ended it in peace and with neutral points, it is true what you say, if Thanos is using his full armor and a sword against the Hulk who is not supposed to be using anything, it's a unfair fight, he would want a rematch, but Thanos didn't need his sword to defeat the Hulk in IW, his armor absorbed a few hits, but his combat skill was what made him look like a lot for Hulk, maybe if the green guy were stronger than Thanos, assuming that. Hulk could've a probability of 5.1 against him, but with the insane skill that Thanos possesses, no matter how strong Hulk is, I think in the end it would make him win the tough fight (what's the use of being stronger if you cannot practically give any accurate blow?). Regards :)
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Thanos (MCU) this fight remember me when brock lesnar fight frank mir in UFC 100
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Thanos (MCU) He will become my new adopted son
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Thanos (MCU) He will become my new adopted son
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Thanos (MCU) Thanos is just more skilled
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Thanos (MCU) Spoiler of iw
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Thanos (MCU) the hulk is dead these were his last painful movements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK1YIRTaqa0
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Thanos (MCU) no..just nothing
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Thanos (MCU) :( damn u russo brothers....

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