Team Iron ManvsTeam Hyperion

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Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion Iron Man vs Hyperion*
Captain America vs Black Bolt (godstomp)*
Black Widow vs Blue Marvel (stomp)*
Hulk* vs Gladiator
Thor* vs Nova
Hawkeye vs Quasar* (stomp)

Hulk vs Black Bolt*
Thor vs Hyperion, Blue Marvel, Quasar* (pretty hard fight, but if they lose Black Bolt will come in)
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Taurus
Taurus 9 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man 1 and 6 is also a stomp. Hulk beats Black Bolt. By then he's angry enough to beat him without much trouble, but not a stomp. Then its a Hulk near Worldbreaker level vs severely fatigued Hyperion, Blue Marvel, and Quasar. Hulk takes it with minimal difficulty.
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion #1 wouldn't be as much as a stomp.
Hulk would be incapacitated by Black Bolt by a whisper. Even Green Scar Hulk was knocked back. Sure, he healed, but Black Bolt turned his back (and if we're going all out, Black Bolt's scream should pretty much decimate Hulk).
Taurus
Taurus 9 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man Agreed.
And if Hulk was going all out, his clap would reverberate the sound back into Black Bolt's throat, decimating his own vocal cords and destroying his ability. Now its just a brawl with the strongest there is. GG
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion Black Bolt's scream is quite a bit more powerful than Hulk's thunderclap. He KO'd Hulk with a whisper, made Thanos bleed, destroyed the negative zone barrier (something Mjolnir couldn't do), nearly killed Vulcan, tore a hole in reality, and more. Even the Sentry fears his voice.
Also, Black Bolt has been stated to be a close second in strength from Hulk.
Taurus
Taurus 9 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man Not after Hulk has fought Gladiator. By then he's angry enough to one-shot Black Bolt. Even if you disagree that Hulk one-shots him, it was shown that angry Hulk > BB
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion Black Bolt's power is shown to be absolutely MASSIVE. Even Hulk after fighting Gladiator wouldn't be able to win.
Also, another way this fight could go: Black Bolt whispers, immediately incapacitating Thor and Hulk and killing Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, and Hawkeye. Then everyone gangs up on Hulk and Thor.
Taurus
Taurus 9 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man Angry Hulk, even when he and Banner are holding back, is shown to be at least as powerful. Here he or Banner will not be holding back, and possibly angrier.
In character that would never happen you know. This is Black Bolt, not some robot with Black Bolt's abilities. Even so, if he's going all out then so are Hulk and Thor, which means they still probably take it.
Going all out: Team 1, 5.5/10
Not going all out: Team 2, 7/10
estimated ^
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion In the World War Hulk storyline, he was angrier than ever and bent on revenge, and Black Bolt still knocked him back with a mere whisper. While WWH later took Black Bolt by surprise he did show it was possible for him to win, but with Black Bolt's ranged attacks (especially his voice, but his electric abilities too), this wouldn't be very likely.
Going all out: Team 2, 5.0001/10
Not going all out: Team 2, 7.5/10
^My estimation
As you can see, in my estimation, team 2 wins either way (though a very hard fight when going all out)
Taurus
Taurus 9 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man Black Bolt surprised him first, but Hulk was holding back immensly, because throught the storyline we realize that he is holding back, and especially when he becomes Worldbreaker, and even more so when we realize he was holding back even in that form. And even when he "let go" in HOTM, he still held back as he was fighting Betty.
So in your opinion, its the other way around, that Team 2 does better not going all out? Okay I guess that could make sense.
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion Wait, has Black Bolt ever screamed in comics? I think he did in the "make Thanos bleed" feat but I'm not sure.
In my opinion, Team 2 does better if everyone holds back their normal amount.
Taurus
Taurus 9 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man Now we're just basing off assumptions?
Well, typically Banner does everything in his power to try and make Hulk lose the fight.
Dhruv
Dhruv 8 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion CA vs BB is less of a stomp than BW vs BM and Hawkeye vs Quasar (of course, this comes from a CA fan), but trust me BW vs BM and Hawkeye vs Quasar is a much more godstomp than CA vs BB. In fact, CA's shield took a hit from an enraged thor and Cap got almost no damage from it. Not to mention Cap might also reflect some BB's attacks from his shield and might damage BB to a certain extent. Cap would lose, but if BB does a ranged attack on that shield, then he is gonna receive some damage from it.
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion @Taurus I'm just curious. And why would Banner want Hulk to lose?
@Dhruv How? Yes, Captain America is stronger than Hawkeye and Black Widow, but Black Bolt is stronger than Quasar and Blue Marvel too. Even the Sentry worries about fighting against Black Bolt. Black Bolt is also faster than Quicksilver, so he can just speedblitz Cap.
Taurus
Taurus 8 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man @Alien_X 1) Everyone knows that Banner suppresses Hulk. Always. He hates everything Hulk does.
2) Because Banner doesn't want to kill people.

Also Sentry is worried about pretty much everything so it doesn't mean much.
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion Yeah, but he doesn't want Hulk to lose, he just doesn't want Hulk to kill. Big difference.
Sentry actually fears Black Bolt's voice. Spider-Man thought he was the second most powerful guy in the galaxy after Sentry (and he has met powerhouses like Hercules, Thor and Hulk).
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Taurus
Taurus 8 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man From everything we've seen, that isn't true. Why do you think Bruce makes so many counter weapons against the Hulk? He's been proven to be suicidal. My point stands.
Okay, and Beyonder (who is much more reliable) acknowledged that Hulk and himself were the only two who had infinite power.
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion He makes the counters due to his understanding of how destructive the Hulk could be.
The Beyonder doesn't have infinite power.
1: TOAA is above him.
2: He has been against beings that (he thought) could possibly kill him.
So should we really take his word for that statement?
Taurus
Taurus 8 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man Lol I love how I can switch back and forth between savage and Banner.
Exactly. He wants to lose. An exception is WWH though, where he helps trick Strange.
He's one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel (and DC for that matter, heck, and comics).
1. TOAA is above all.
2. Hulk kicked his @ for a bit as well.
Well, why wouldn't he tell the truth when talking to himself?
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion ??
He wants to have contingencies so the Hulk doesn't do too much damage. But Hulk is also very helpful, so he doesn't WANT to lose.
One of the most powerful doesn't mean infinite power. I feel like infinite power is basically omnipotence.
1: Yeah, so HE has infinite power, not anyone else.
2: Yeah, so the Beyonder doesn't have infinite power.
He might THINK Hulk has infinite potential, but that may not be true.
Taurus
Taurus 8 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man I don't feel like explaining.
He wants Hulk to lose, but he's not worried of Hulk ACTUALLY losing because that is very rare.
Its definitely confusing in the comics.
1. Not what the comics say.
2. So this is an anti-feat for Beyonder and not a feat for Hulk? Not very fair is that.
Lol what does that mean? Why would the comics show us that Beyonder thinks this? When someone is speaking to themselves in the comics, unless its part of the plot, its always true.
Dhruv
Dhruv 7 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion @Alien_X Well sorry for the late reply. First of all, I agree with Cap being stronger than BW and Hawkeye and BB being stronger than Quasar and BM. Sentry worrying to fight against Black Bolt is actually non-canon, as much as I like black bolt, Sentry isn't gonna go down by a whisper and as I said its non-canon. And yes BB is faster than Cap, thats why I said if BB does a ranged attack, then he would receive some damage, if he just grabs Cap then Cap's dead, but if he tries to use his voice, then yeah Cap's gonna reflect it. Not to mention Cap has taken down the hulk more than once and also Hawkeye and BW are not gonna do any damage to Quasar and BM while Cap will last more and do some damage (He can even win due to the other heroes on the team if he has a tactic for it).
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion I agree with Sentry not being able to be defeated by a whisper, but Black Bolt can simply speak louder. Can the Sentry withstand Black Bolt's scream?
Even if Cap reflects it (I know he's fast, but is he "dodge attacks the speed of sound" fast?), Black Bolt can simply tank or dodge his own reflected attack.
Captain America manages to win those fights against Hulk via plot armor (similar to how Batman beats Superman), and while I agree Captain America is a master tactician, so is Black Bolt, though not to the same degree. I don't see Cap coming out on top or even fazing Black Bolt.
Taurus
Taurus 7 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man I feel like the only reason Cap lasts longer is cause he'd just hide behind his shield, not that he'd be any closer to defeated BB. Also, Cap only ever really defeats Hulk if he's Prof Hulk or weakened, or their are other factors involved like others helping, or like @Alien_X said, plot armor.
Dhruv
Dhruv 6 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion Sentry actually is more powerful than BB, that was very well revealed in WWH. Cap has reacted to hulk and thor on various occasions, and moves at speed that time seems to stand still for humans. BB can tank his own attack but that's gonna do some damage to him. And actually Cap doesn't win via plot, he simply bfr's him from the battle, you know he is a master tactician so he simply tries to keep hulk calm and strike at the right moment, I agree Cap is gonna lose against BB but he will survive much longer than BW and Hawkeye and will deal more damage than they will.
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Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion Black Bolt didn't scream. I think Black Bolt's full power might destroy Sentry (who'll regenerate, but still). Yeah. Black Widow and Hawkeye would last like 2-5 seconds while Captain America might even last 10 seconds.
Dhruv
Dhruv 5 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion He can't completely disintegrate sentry with his scream. Even Vulcan tanked BB's scream, though he got turned into a fried skeleton after that. But it can't disintegrate him like how Molecule Man did with sentry. And that's my point I will say just change your comment to god stomp against Hawkeye and BW and a stomp against CA. I would say CA can pretty easily last 1 minute here. Vibranium has tanked an explosion that was going to destroy all reality, and Cap's shield is composed of adamantium too which has been said to be stronger and denser than vibranium. It also absorbs vibrations, can reflect and cancel them out. Unless BB doesn't get hands on Cap and only attacks from a range, he is gonna have trouble putting him down considering Cap's shield has casually tanked hits from Hulk, Thor and IH (The same IH punches were destroying hercules, thor, hulkbuster, she hulk, jane thor and basically the entire avengers).
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Dhruv
Dhruv 4 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion 1. IIRC, silent war isn't canon anymore, and tbh sentry took BB's whisper to his face without getting damaged. If sentry was in the mood of fighting, he would have done much better (plus he was unstable at that time).
2. There are a few instances where this has happened

Wolverine's adamantium claws cutting BP's vibranium suit, and this isn't even true adamantium we are talking about.

And see actually cap's shield is a little complex, its said at times to be a mix of adamantium/ vibranium but its really not. Its called proto adamantium (vibranium and steel alloy), its called adamantium just because it is similar enough to adamantium but it actually is stronger than adamantium.

Proto adamantium > adamantium > vibranium
3. Yes its immortal hulk.
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion 1: #2 and #4 on the list still give a pretty good example of what might happen. Also, what about the other feats? Also, another site: https://www.quora.com/How-powerful-is-black-bolts-voice
2: What I got from your scans is that Adamantium is just sharp enough to cut through Vibranium, but overall it's not as durable.
Dhruv
Dhruv 2 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion 1. #4 was non-canon and BB just used a whisper, sentry and strange getting disintegrated was pure BS since WWH easily took a scream of BB and emerged victorious. #2 is also non-canon now and though it does provide a good example of what might happen, it shows sentry just standing and taking BB's whisper to his face, Sentry was worried that if BB used his full power, then it would have destroyed everyone except him and wrought immense destruction. And canon storylines like WWH say Sentry > Black bolt.
2. See what you said is right, adamantium can easily cut through vibranium, which also translates to vibranium being less durable since it gets pierced by adamantium.

On the other hand, adamantium can't be pierced by vibranium, only by a special form of vibraium called Antarctic vibranium. Also vibranium is shown to have a limit while no such limit has been said about adamantium.
Alien_X
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Hyperion 1: WWH never tanked BB's scream. And yes, while Sentry > Black Bolt, it's not by a whole lot.
2: Adamantium cannot easily cut through vibranium, at least not always:
https://imgur.com/XdI5THl
Also, Thor broke Adamantium cables just by flexing, but Vibranium items such as Captain America's shield and Black Panther's suit can tank blows from Thor and Hulk.
Taurus
Taurus 9 d
Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion
Team Iron Man Very tough fight.
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Hulk* vs Hyperion and Nova
Thor, Iron Man, and Cap* vs Gladiator (hard fight)
Black Widow vs Quasar* (stomp)
Hawkeye vs Blue Marvel and Black Bolt* (stomp)
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enraged Hulk, and fatigued Thor, Iron Man, and Cap* vs Quasar, Black Bolt, and Blue Marvel (hard fight, Cap and Iron Man are KO'd/killed, and Thor is possibly KO'd)
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