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[url=https://www.superherodb.com/team-iron-man-vs-team-hyperion/90-536469/]Team Iron Man vs Team Hyperion[/url]
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Created by Dhruv
Iron Man Tony Stark | 2.7K |
Captain America Steve Rogers | 177 |
Black Widow Natasha Romanoff | 132 |
Hulk Bruce Banner | 115K |
Thor Thor Odinson | 279K |
Hawkeye Clint Barton | 64 |
team class | 397K |
Hyperion Marcus Milton | 97K |
Black Bolt Blackagar Boltagon | 26K |
Blue Marvel Adam Brashear | 134K |
Gladiator Kallark | 133K |
Nova Richard Rider | 93K |
Quasar Wendell Vaughn | 166K |
team class | 650K |
Captain America vs Black Bolt (godstomp)*
Black Widow vs Blue Marvel (stomp)*
Hulk* vs Gladiator
Thor* vs Nova
Hawkeye vs Quasar* (stomp)
Hulk vs Black Bolt*
Thor vs Hyperion, Blue Marvel, Quasar* (pretty hard fight, but if they lose Black Bolt will come in)
Hulk would be incapacitated by Black Bolt by a whisper. Even Green Scar Hulk was knocked back. Sure, he healed, but Black Bolt turned his back (and if we're going all out, Black Bolt's scream should pretty much decimate Hulk).
And if Hulk was going all out, his clap would reverberate the sound back into Black Bolt's throat, decimating his own vocal cords and destroying his ability. Now its just a brawl with the strongest there is. GG
Also, Black Bolt has been stated to be a close second in strength from Hulk.
Also, another way this fight could go: Black Bolt whispers, immediately incapacitating Thor and Hulk and killing Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, and Hawkeye. Then everyone gangs up on Hulk and Thor.
In character that would never happen you know. This is Black Bolt, not some robot with Black Bolt's abilities. Even so, if he's going all out then so are Hulk and Thor, which means they still probably take it.
Going all out: Team 1, 5.5/10
Not going all out: Team 2, 7/10
estimated ^
Going all out: Team 2, 5.0001/10
Not going all out: Team 2, 7.5/10
^My estimation
As you can see, in my estimation, team 2 wins either way (though a very hard fight when going all out)
So in your opinion, its the other way around, that Team 2 does better not going all out? Okay I guess that could make sense.
In my opinion, Team 2 does better if everyone holds back their normal amount.
Well, typically Banner does everything in his power to try and make Hulk lose the fight.
@Dhruv How? Yes, Captain America is stronger than Hawkeye and Black Widow, but Black Bolt is stronger than Quasar and Blue Marvel too. Even the Sentry worries about fighting against Black Bolt. Black Bolt is also faster than Quicksilver, so he can just speedblitz Cap.
2) Because Banner doesn't want to kill people.
Also Sentry is worried about pretty much everything so it doesn't mean much.
Sentry actually fears Black Bolt's voice. Spider-Man thought he was the second most powerful guy in the galaxy after Sentry (and he has met powerhouses like Hercules, Thor and Hulk).
Okay, and Beyonder (who is much more reliable) acknowledged that Hulk and himself were the only two who had infinite power.
The Beyonder doesn't have infinite power.
1: TOAA is above him.
2: He has been against beings that (he thought) could possibly kill him.
So should we really take his word for that statement?
Exactly. He wants to lose. An exception is WWH though, where he helps trick Strange.
He's one of the most powerful beings in all of Marvel (and DC for that matter, heck, and comics).
1. TOAA is above all.
2. Hulk kicked his @ for a bit as well.
Well, why wouldn't he tell the truth when talking to himself?
He wants to have contingencies so the Hulk doesn't do too much damage. But Hulk is also very helpful, so he doesn't WANT to lose.
One of the most powerful doesn't mean infinite power. I feel like infinite power is basically omnipotence.
1: Yeah, so HE has infinite power, not anyone else.
2: Yeah, so the Beyonder doesn't have infinite power.
He might THINK Hulk has infinite potential, but that may not be true.
He wants Hulk to lose, but he's not worried of Hulk ACTUALLY losing because that is very rare.
Its definitely confusing in the comics.
1. Not what the comics say.
2. So this is an anti-feat for Beyonder and not a feat for Hulk? Not very fair is that.
Lol what does that mean? Why would the comics show us that Beyonder thinks this? When someone is speaking to themselves in the comics, unless its part of the plot, its always true.
Even if Cap reflects it (I know he's fast, but is he "dodge attacks the speed of sound" fast?), Black Bolt can simply tank or dodge his own reflected attack.
Captain America manages to win those fights against Hulk via plot armor (similar to how Batman beats Superman), and while I agree Captain America is a master tactician, so is Black Bolt, though not to the same degree. I don't see Cap coming out on top or even fazing Black Bolt.
And when was Adamantium said to be stronger than Vibranium?
By IH do you mean Immortal Hulk?
2. There are a few instances where this has happened
Wolverine's adamantium claws cutting BP's vibranium suit, and this isn't even true adamantium we are talking about.
And see actually cap's shield is a little complex, its said at times to be a mix of adamantium/ vibranium but its really not. Its called proto adamantium (vibranium and steel alloy), its called adamantium just because it is similar enough to adamantium but it actually is stronger than adamantium.
Proto adamantium > adamantium > vibranium
3. Yes its immortal hulk.
2: What I got from your scans is that Adamantium is just sharp enough to cut through Vibranium, but overall it's not as durable.
2. See what you said is right, adamantium can easily cut through vibranium, which also translates to vibranium being less durable since it gets pierced by adamantium.
On the other hand, adamantium can't be pierced by vibranium, only by a special form of vibraium called Antarctic vibranium. Also vibranium is shown to have a limit while no such limit has been said about adamantium.
2: Adamantium cannot easily cut through vibranium, at least not always:
https://imgur.com/XdI5THl
Also, Thor broke Adamantium cables just by flexing, but Vibranium items such as Captain America's shield and Black Panther's suit can tank blows from Thor and Hulk.
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Hulk* vs Hyperion and Nova
Thor, Iron Man, and Cap* vs Gladiator (hard fight)
Black Widow vs Quasar* (stomp)
Hawkeye vs Blue Marvel and Black Bolt* (stomp)
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enraged Hulk, and fatigued Thor, Iron Man, and Cap* vs Quasar, Black Bolt, and Blue Marvel (hard fight, Cap and Iron Man are KO'd/killed, and Thor is possibly KO'd)