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Flash vs. BW & Hawkeye
Wonder Woman & Aquaman vs. Hulk
Superman vs Thor
Cyborg vs Stark
Team Bats wins.
Anyways, those characters only give Thor a good fight whenever he is holding back. When he fought Hercules, he essentially verbatim states that he is holding back a fatal blow as a means to not humble the son of Zeus, as portrayed in 'Thor Volume 1 #126, Page #6, Panel #5'. In fact, throughout the comic, there are multiple statements eluding to the fact that Thor was holding back the entire time. If I were on my computer, I'd show you the scans.
We even see Thor, when not holding back due to witnessing his brother die before him, essentially one shot the evil part of the Sentry, also known as the Void, as seen in 'Siege Volume 1 #4, Pages #17-19'.
As for Quicksilver and Namor, Thor has sworn never to take a human life in 'Journey Into Mystery Volume 1 #114, Page #2, Panel #3'. He states that he has pledged never to cause bodily injury to a human with his avenging Mjolnir.
There are countless other examples of Thor holding back against mortal beings and his friends, even to the point to where he states he has always been concerned with the fate of others, which is often times the reason he loses (Thor Volume 1 #153, Page #16, Panel #4). Hell, he even holds back against the most powerful of foes. In 'Thor Volume 1 #133, Page #13, Panel #1', Thor was holding back against Ego and his forces. In 'Thor Volume 1 #178, Page #10, Panel #4', even while fighting the Stranger, Thor says that he wishes not to inflict injury upon him. I could go on and on and on.
The point being, it is not a fair assessment to conclude that because it appears Thor struggles against lesser beings, that he is somehow less powerful than he actually is.
Now, if we take into consideration all that I just said, assuming that this is a non-holding back Thor in this matchup, it is plain to see that Thor is very capable of defeating his opposition. In more ways than one, at that. I know it may seem unbelievable that Thor holds back essentially all the time, but I literally have countless examples of that being the case in the comics. I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless. It's frightening. Turns the legs to jelly. I ask you to what end? Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same. And now it's here. Or should I say, I am?
Not only that, but a non-holding back Thor has already been shown to easily defeat multiple attackers simultaneously in 'Silver Surfer Volume 3 #86' when he fought both the Silver Surfer and Beta Ray Bill, as well as in 'Warlock And The Infinity Watch Volume 1 #23' when he fought the Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock.
And don't even get me started on the speed feats of the Silver Surfer.
Making a vow to never debate me again just doesn't seem very intellectually sound to me, especially when I've been very civil in our discussions so far. Just imagine if our elected officials didn't debate and reason amongst themselves. Nothing would get done. Everyone would just be wallowing in their own self righteousness. No room for correction, just, "No, I'm right, you're wrong, I don't like you, you are never going to change my mind." Is this really the image you want displayed to others? Because I don't know about you, but I'll be damned if that is what other people thought of me.
So you have two choices. You can either go on with your plan and never bat an eye at what I have to say, knowing that you can prove me wrong (as I'm assuming that is what you believe), or you can debate me right here and right now and put to use all that time spent reading those DC comics. Just put an end to it. And if you win, I'll gladly admit that Thor is canon fodder and that the Justice League would mop the floor with him. BUT, if you lose, you will have to admit that Thor would solo the Justice League and that Superman and all those other heroes are completely outclassed by Thor.
But don't know that you can't win the argument, but still say that the Justice League and Superman would defeat Thor. That's not fair. That's not being objective. That's not respectable.
I hope this finds you well and that you think long and hard on what I just said. This could be your last chance to prove to me that you are a legit fan of fiction and true critic of battles.
Yes, the Void was holding his own against a holding back Thor, but once Thor wasn't holding back anymore, we saw him absolutely decimate the Void. I'm not sure why this has to be mentioned. It's pretty obvious.
Where in 'Siege Volume 1 #4' does it show the Void killing Thor and Loki reviving him? All Loki did was buff the other heroes with the Norn Stones.
Thor wasn't holding back. He was fighting for his very home and even says he was forced to use all his might against him. And all Thor's best strikes did were push him back slightly.
I can't seem to copy the image's link anymore but in Siege #4 page we see the Void one shot them all in which Loki then revived them all again. His exact words were "let these heroes rise" after we'd just seen them all get taken out.
I'm not sure which comic you are reading, but Thor's best attack burnt the Void to a literal crisp. I think it is more believable for Thor to have been holding back the whole time, because, given his history, it isn't unrealistic for him to hold back in these types of situations in the past. In 'Thor Volume 1 #133, Page #13, Panel #1', we see Thor was holding back against Ego and all his forces, despite risking the life of the Recorder. Even while fighting the Stranger in 'Thor Volume 1 #178, Page #10, Panel #4', Thor said that he wished not to inflict injury upon him. There are also multiple examples of Thor holding back against Odin himself. One such example being in 'Thor Volume 1 #187, Pages #4, 5, 7' where he states multiple times that he will not strike against his own father even while being senselessly assaulted by him. And one of the best examples of this that is most pertinent to the situation with the Void is in 'Thor Volume 1 #82, Pages #19-20' when Thor, who was without Mjolnir, having seen friend and family die (like what was the case in Siege), and knowing that the end days were upon him, reached deep into himself for a strength never fully realized before in order to blast Durok The Demolisher with energy so powerful that even in battles in the past, Thor with the help of Mjolnir could not have achieved the same result. All of this proves that Thor was more than likely holding back against the Void, which is much more realistic than Thor only winning because the Sentry wanted to die, or whatever rhetoric you are trying to peddle.
There is no evidence in that comic that all those heroes, including Thor, died. Again, all Loki did was amplify everyones power. On Page #4, Loki literally states that all the heroes were "empowered." On Page #5, Panel #4, Stonewall says, "Yo, Daisy, do we get to keep these new powers when we're done?" This proves that the heroes power was amplified, not that they were resurrected. On Page #7, Panel #1, the Void literally states, "Your new powers..." Again, more proof that the heroes only received a power amplification. Hell, on Page #10, Panel #1, I think it is Quake who literally says, "So much for the power upgrade." I don't think it can get any clearer than that. Nowhere does it say or depict the heroes being resurrected or that anyone died.
And if anything saying Sentry didn't want to win makes Thor look even worse because Sentry was still soloing Thor and everyone else without even trying.
Here Thor literally says he's forced to use all the power at his command to smite Sentry. And all it does it push Sentry back slightly. Even Thor was taken a back by how little difference that made.
The attack that your referring to happened as Robert was literally crying out "kill me". That makes Thor's execution worthless.
The situation was very different here compared to the rest. This story had been building up for a long time. The Asgardians were on their last legs and their was an invasion force on their doorstep. This was one of Thor's most important fights. Thor holding back against Odin makes complete sense because that's his own father.
Its not rhetoric, its listening to the words from Thor himself.
No evidence? We see Void blast the Avengers sending them all to the ground. They only get up again as Loki while using the norn stones talks about letting the heroes rise again. CA and Thor even say they were given a 2nd chance. All this implies is that they brought back. And even with the extra buff they still couldn't beat him. I didn't deny the power buff but they were brought back in
Well, obviously, Thor actually did strike down the Void with everything he had, because he literally burnt the Void to a crisp. Your scan proves nothing. I've shown you that it is not far fetched to come to the conclusion that Thor was initially holding back against the Void by referencing multiple examples in the comics where Thor has held back in perilous situations in the past. Do you have any actual rebuttals in reference to this? If not, I'd like to continue with the rest of our discussion.
So do you have to die in order to get a second chance? Them getting a second chance does not prove they died. Show me something in the comic where it says they died, and I'll shut up about this.
My scan shows what happened when Thor struck him when he was still fighting to win. Your choosing to ignore one of the most important context here by pretending Thor struck down a foe who still wanted to win when he was literally asking to die.
Yes and I debunked your proof that Thor held back here. Holding back when attacking your own father makes sense. Holding back when attacking someone who's killed your brother, your home and all that you hold dear doesn't. Especially considering Thor himself said he wasn't.
The fact that they all went down and looked dead, then suddenly they all unanimously get up again while saying they've been given a 2nd chance heavily implies they were revived. If someone gets knocked down then they get up again, you don't say you were given a 2nd chance.
* = Win
ROUND 1
• Thor* vs Superman
• Hulk vs Wonder Woman*
• Iron Man* vs Cyborg
• Captain America* vs Batman
• Hawkeye vs Flash*
• Black Widow vs Aquaman*
ROUND 2
• Thor* vs Wonder Woman
• Iron Man vs Flash*
• Captain America vs Aquaman*
ROUND 3
• Thor* vs Flash/Aquaman
But really, we all know Thor would solo.
The least powerful in team Batman is the Dark knight himself and Cyborg bouth superior to the Marvel characters.
No matter how the battle will play out
Black Widow and Hawk eye will be knocked out early in the conflict.
Perhaps with backup from Captain America they will succed to defeat Batman and keep Cyborg occupied.
The incredible Hulk defeats Aquaman with some difficulty, the aquatic superhero got a powerful weapon, the trident.
With this weapon he succeds to injure the green behemoth stabbing him with skill and speed. Rage and adrenalin increases Hulks strength, durability and healing ability even more and Aquaman will be destroyed.
Hulk also battle Flash, the speedster changes adversary several times to battle more opponents.
Its obvious Wonder Woman will defeat
Iron Man, a human versus a demigod.
The ultratechnological superhero versus the ancient warrior princess.
I belive Iron Man may put up a strong fight and occupy Wonder Woman for some time but the Amazonian will be victorious.
The battle between Mighty Thor and Superman have been explained many times.
The warrior god got to many advantages to lose versus the kryptonian alien.
With the power of magic the mythological god beats Superman.
Captain America becomes defeated when Cyborg overpower him.
The super soldier is not defeated easy because of superior combat skills and an incredible shield.
Wonder Woman versus the incredible Hulk is a very close battle.
Perhaps its about what kind of abilities you think is more important, strength, healing and durability or combat skill, speed, flight and powerful weapons.
I may see either one winning but because im a beliver in a strong origin i chose the demigod.
Mighty Thor will have some difficulty in beating Flash, the fast speedster is not easy to hit. The versatility of being a god and wield Mjolnir will eventually give him victory.
The last battle will be Mighty Thor versus Wonder Woman and Cyborg.
I dont think Cyborg is a threat to Thor and will be defeated very easy.
The demigod defeated the Hulk in a very close fight and is injured.
Mighty Thor defeated Superman but this battle is not that close, i belive as explained in Thor vs Superman the god got to many advantages to lose.
In this scenario Mighty Thor will be the only one still standing.
But i think this battle may go either way, team Iron Man got the weakest characters but also the strongest.
But its a good point and I belive its also possible the battle may end with only Wonder Woman standing.
Thor may not become tired he may fight for several month but he may get hurt.
Batman takes out BW & Hawkeye but gets took out by Captain America then Cap gets took out by wonder woman as She Disarms him and beats him with his own shield,
Iron Man takes out cyborg
Flash takes out Iron man by vibrating throw his suit killing iron man then starts to fight Thor while Hulk and aqua man are fighting Hulk takes out aqua man as Wonder Woman and Superman defeat Thor then defeats the hulk, Hulk almost kills wonder woman but then dies to Superman
Winners: Superman, Wonder Woman and Flash
Of you see this your right, people do underestimate Wonder woman..she cancab battle it out with Superman in some fights..so many outcomes for justice league to take out the avengers with just one or two of them..
is dead...
Aquaman creates a tsunami and captain America hawyeye and black widow drown...hulk will get distracted for Abit but will survive
The flash decapitates Thor and Hulk with Wonder Woman sword..and that's the weakest of them sort of.. you still have Batman, and wonderman Superman which aren't no pushovers..maybe Superman assists with flash for the hell of it while Batman plays with his toys..lol.. avengers are toast
Round 1Iron Man vs Batman
Iron man and batman both are billionares who can afford massive arsenals of weaponry to compete with superman and Thor, but Iron man can easily take down Batman in his base, since he regularly lose to street level characters like Bane and the Joker while Iron Man in his base form can take on villains like Captain America and sometimes the Mandarin. At their most powerful forms which would either be Batman's final batsuit or Metron batman and Iron man's Godkiller armor, Galactus Buster armor or just him with an infinity gauntlet. I personally think that Iron man could take that since the Godkiller armor literally killed a dozen of celestials and Metron kind of scales to Galactus. Infinitty gauntlet has also beaten galactus before and could easily beat any celestial.
Round two Captain America vs Cyborg
I think captain America would be best equipped to take this one since he really doesn't have any electronic equipment on him and his vibranium shield would cover him from any attacks. The most powerful cyborg would probably be him utilizing a mother box if im not mistaken as opposed to worthy Captain America. I think it'd be a good battle.
Round three Wonder Woman vs Black Widow
Wonder Woman is actually not bulletproof and that's why she has gotten so good at blocking bullets. If Natasha could get a good shot in Diana might be done for. Golden Death Metal Wonder Woman and What if?'s worthy Black Widow would be their best forms. That's all I can say for Black Widow but who really thinks she would win lol no Wonder Woman takes this
Round 4 Hulk vs Aquaman
base level hulk might be as strong as aquaman when he's in the water like hulk vs namor have fought, but hulk has a greater healing factor and eventually greater strength since that is part of his skill set. Kaiju would do nothing since the hulk has dealt with their kind before. The most powerful aquaman would probably be a future aquaman like or aquaman prime one million but that would be nothing to cosmic immortal hulk who has overpowered on multiple occasions the literal archenemy of the writer.
Round 5 Thor vs Superman
Thor has an advantage in this battle because superman is weak to magic. Not only that but while both similiar powers Thor also has teleportation, matter manipulation, the antiforce, intangibility, and the mighty god blast. Superman's got x ray vision and freeze breath. Both can time travel. You might say superman is faster, but come on thor regularly fights the silver surfer. I think it would be a close fight, but Thor wins. The most powerful superman is Cosmic Armor as oppossed to rune king thor. Cosmic armor supes is powerful but Rune king thor can beat the beyonders who regurlarly break the fourth like cas overvoid feats. Beyonder can communicate with and read the writer's mind, while Cas would definitely lose to the beyonder.
Finally Round 6 Flash vs Hawkeye
Flash and flash like characters have regularly gotten shot by a long list of marksman characters like Deadshot, Green arrow, Batman, Nazis, Robin, and Manuel Lago, while Hawkeye can sense bullets and battle quicksilver. While I think Hawkeye might lose he also has a better chance at shooting an explosive arrow or idk a poison arrow, (really any arrow if he aims well enough) at Flash that could possibly be fatal. The most powerful Flash is probably Sela Allen who is the literal embodiment of the speed force while Hawkeye's had an infinity gaunlet. While hawkeye might beat Sela in a snap I'd have to give that battle to Sela. So hawkeye wins in his base forms but flash wins in his most powerful form
Avengers win
Ik you said WW would beat Black Widow but you said that if Black Widow gets a good shot it she could take WW out which is bull because Wonder Woman can avoid and block normal bullets. She has super reflexes none of those bullets are touching her.
Cyborg is beating Cap.
Why are your bring in there most powerful forms? In this fight they are all in base form
I know Black Widow's not gonna beat Wonder Woman, but that's actually a true fact that Wonder Woman is not bulletproof, so you never know.
Also I don't see cyborg beating cap, how? Cap fights iron man all the time none of the lasers are gonna go to his vibranium sheild.
I knew theres gonna be somebody that says ohhhh CAS beats all of those or something like that so I just wanted to display everyone at their strongest and weakest (normal state) to see who would really win
What do you think?
Wether or not Thor beats Superman or vice versa is debatable. I see the fight going either way.
Wonder Woman may be vulnerable to bullets, but like the Flash vs Arrows situation, they wont keep her down because of her endurance and healing factor.
Cyborg can do more than shoot lasers. He can do plenty of things Iron Man can't. He can create boom tubes which are essentially portals. What is stopping him from sending Cap into deep space? The shield can't block that.
Superman, Flash, Wonder Woman (maybe Aquaman but probably not) vs Thor and Hulk
Round 1: Iron Man vs Batman
Yeah, Iron man can easily take down Batman in his base. The most powerful forms are irrelevant, those have alternate profiles. This applies to literally every matchup you show.
Round two: Captain America vs Cyborg
I am very skeptical of Cap winning. Sure, his shield would block most attacks, but with how advanced Cyborg's arsenal is one hit would be all it takes to incapacitate him. Also, Boom tubes.
Round three: Wonder Woman vs Black Widow
Yeah, good luck getting a good shot in, Natasha. WW speedblitz oneshots.
Round 4: Hulk vs Aquaman
Yep, Hulk stomps.
Round 5 Thor vs Superman
This is easily the closest and most well-analyzed matchup you've provided. Until you get to RKT against CAS, best to avoid that topic.
Round 6: Flash vs Hawkeye
Why is this a thing.
Thor and Hulk will be the only ones left of team 2,
Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash and possibly Aquaman are the ones left on team 1.
Thor and Hulk are getting slapped.
Flash dispatches of the rest of the team in a millisecond before the fight even really starts. Diana will hold of the Hulk. I don’t think she can kill him per say because of his healing factor nor has she shown consistency (using high end feats she could knock out Banner but then you have to use hulk high ends to) to be able to knock out hulk again because of the healing factor but she can hold him of for hours at least. Flash will also be helping her. Normally is bad to apply other characters feats (taking Wally’s) but the IMP is really just relativistic force and as that’s a scientific principle it can be used. Barry just spams that and that will knock out hulk. Hulk has reverted to banner after holding together a star for brief moments (granted larger than the white dwarf star) so the repetitive attacks will knock him out, especially if WW isn’t holding back and cutting of limbs as she will have observed by now they will regenerate.
Now the real fight. Imo this is what decides the fight. Clark and Thor will both go into space. As the fight is there both can use their full speed. While Thor has caught people like silver surfer, surfer doesn’t tend to fight like a speedster even if he has the speed to do so. Thor doesn’t either. Superman isn’t weak to magic he’s not invulnerable to it. Thor can and will damage Clark. However as Clark has fought this way before more than Thor he may transition to fighting like that once he figures out that Thor is nearly as strong as he is and could KO him. Superman wins.
This was a very bad showing for marvel. All the other members in that team that aren’t Thor and Hulk are non factors (tbf the JLA only has three factors here but 3>2 and each of there’s are better). Put together much better teams for each and either way the victor will have very high diff, not mid.
İronman, Cap, Black Widow, Hawkeye* vs Flash, Cyborg*
Batman is not even needed
Superman vs Hulk
Superman wins because he simply has too many powers to kill hulk before he gets angry enough to be stronger than him
Wonder woman vs Thor
Tie because they are both incredibly skilled (mostly leaning towards wonder woman because she almost killed superman in a matter of seconds in the injustice comic)
Batman vs Cap
Batman because he is more skilled and more intelligent
Cyborg vs Iron man
Cyborg because he has absolute control over all of earths technology and could shut down Tony's suit and heart reactor
Aqua man vs hawkeye
Tie because both are incredibly skilled with their weapons (mostly leaning towards hawkeye)
Flash vs Black Widow
Flash wins because he can kill her in under a fraction of a second
Batman and Cyborg take out Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Captain America with ease and Iron Man with enough time. That leaves the two biggest obstacles; Thor and the Hulk. Flash circles around the Hulk while Superman and WW distract Thor for Flash to suffocate Hulk. Thor would be difficult, but assuming Flash, WW, and Superman are against him; they can throw him into space and wait for him to die or just circle around him so he also suffocates.
They duo
Avengers members such as Hawkeye, Black Widow, maybe even Captain America or Ironman are easily witted against DC members, as each are strong in every equal right. Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, alone capture the Strength department. Don't hold it in yet, using his speed, he can boost his natural strength along with the Speed Force, Batman's peak human strength and intelligence, as well as his martial arts, as well as Cyborg and his cybernetics can rival and take out the latter half of the Avengers.
That leaves us with Thor and Hulk, mainly the MVPs of the Avengers. Thor and Hulk without the other 4, are just mainly brawl and no brain. If most of the JL is still alive, (which the superweight characters should be), should pit up a challenge for those 2. Superman can hold against these 2; having fought against Darkseid and Doomsday respectively, as these 2 villains time to time usually wreck or are at competition with Superman. This means that usually, Hulk should be no challenge at his base. Then there's Thor who is easily outmatched with the other Justice Leaguers combined, Wonder Woman paired with maybe any other superweight leaguers such as Flash, Batman, or Aquaman.
The Avengers
The Thing
Doc Samson
She-Hulk
Gladiator
New Avengers & Mighty Avengers
Dr. Strange (Possessed By A Demon)
Ghost Rider
Iron Man
Multiple X-Men Teams
Spider-man
Giant-Man (In The Ultimates)
Black Bolt
Sentry
Wolverine
Iron man vs cyborg
Batman vs cap
Hulk vs aquaman
Hawkeye vs flash
Superman vs Thor
Black widow vs wonderwoman
Iron man would win
Batman would win
Hulk would win
Flash would win
Draw between Thor and superman
Wonder Woman would win
In conclusion team Batman wins (however I can’t choose between Thor and supes)
Okay, that's still a win though.
Yeah, the guy with the other one's weakness at his disposal.
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Maximums
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Angor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champions_of_Angor#The_New_52:_Earth_7_and_Earth_8
1. Just Imagine The Avengers forcing the JLA to kill them
2. Just Imagine The Avengers going after the League's relatives and Families
So much Fun, right
hulk vs w.woman,aquaman*
iron man*vs cyborg,batman
flash* vs cap,widow,hawkeye
thor* vs w.woman
i.man vs flash,aquaman*
thor* vs flash,aquaman
Then the other 5 will defeat Thor and Hulk simply!!!
Batman vs Iron Man (Iron Man wins)
Thor vs Wonder Woman (Thor wins)
The Flash obliterates Cap, Hawkeye and Black Widow
Iron Man and Thor are overwhelmed by Superman, Aquaman, Cyborg & The Flash
(If Iron Man gets prep time then the Avengers win 100% due to Iron Man being able to create armours such as the Iron Destroyer and God-Killer which would obliterate most of the Justice League)
Flash tripping over his feet is only in the movies, in the comics he's kind of overpowered and can definitely dodge a bullet.
Hulk taking out Cyborg is obvious.
Aquaman cannot fly? Hulk cannot fly either, but he can take out Iron Man, and Aquaman can probably dodge Iron Man's lasers, at least for a while.
Superman's reflexes are far beyond Captain America's, so Cap is going out.
Thor hitting Superman from behind is highly unlikely, as Superman is faster and has excellent hearing, he would hear Thor.
What I'm saying is, you need to have stronger arguments, or at least believable or reasonable ones.
Plus, Mjolnir has incredible speed as well. It went about 880 quadrillion miles in a minute. Meaning, Mjolnir went about 79,000,000,000 times the speed of light.
Thor's speed will be a huge advantage for team 2. He also has strength and durability. I am sure Team 2 will win.
Batman vs Iron Man*
Flash* vs Captain America
Wonder Woman* vs Black Widow
Superman^ vs Hulk^
Aquaman vs Thor*
Cyborg vs Hawkeye*
Flash* vs Hawkeye (The Avengers don't need Hawkeye that much anymore)
Wonder Woman vs Thor*
Flash vs Thor*
Team Batman.
Wonder Woman
Batman
Superman
Flash
Aquaman
Cyborg
Team iron man
Hulk
Thor
Iron man
Hawkeye
Black widow
Superman>Wonder Woman and Batman
Flash>Batman
Thor>Hulk
Cap isn't in the list
Flash could just run into the speed force before the planet blows up. You underestimate barry allen
Let's just settle with Silver Surfer and Flash being equal in speed. Neither of us is going to truly win this argument. If Flash runs into the Speed Force, then he would have to exit it on another planet, and since everyone else is fighting a battle in space, Flash would be out of the fight unless he runs vertically so quickly that the momentum pushes him back into the fight before he is killed by the vacuum of space.
I don't even get what you're trying to say with the whole space thing. Since when does this battle happen in space? You don't get to choose where the battle takes place.
Can you please just do a bit more research on the Hulk. It'd solve so many problems if you did.
Another reason the Avengers would win: The only one on team 1 that can breathe in space is Superman. Wonder Woman can only hold her breath for a really long time. Meanwhile, Thor, Hulk, and Iron Man can breathe in space.
So I Imagine he would have a hard time with Black Widow or Hawkeye, plus Everyone on the Avengers have either fought or worked with Namor, and Namor is very similar to aquaman, so Aquaman is out
Next is Wonder Woman, Diana has the same problem as aquaman, she's not bullet proof,
so i'd imagine she would have a hard time with pretty much everyone, i made a black widow vs wonder woman video so i don't have to imagine diana and natasha,
Next up is Superman, Now thor or hulk can beat Supes, no question about that
Next Up is Cyborg, most of the Avengers have fought Iron Man on a few occasssions, so i'd imagine the Avengers shouldn't have a hard time with cyborg,
Now we have The Flash, now Flash has been tagged by people like captain cold, so i'd imagine that Hawkeye could tag him because he's more accurate than Captain Cold, after that the Avengers beat him
Now We Have Batman, this is no question, not even going to break down
So The Avengers Win 10/10
Superman: No, there definitely is question about that. He is way smarter than both, and is miles ahead of hulk in speed. Thor isn't as fast or as strong or as tough.
Cyborg: He could take out the street levelers, Iron man would take him out.
Flash: That's only because Barry holds back a lot due to him being a nice guy. If he was going all out none of the avengers would have a chance of hitting him.
Batman: He could take down people like BW and hawkeye.
It's common knowledge that the avengers are a more human and grounded version of the Justice League. The avengers were specifically made to be more relatable. Justice League wins 11/10. Every member on JLA is at least metahuman except for Batman. Avengers don't have enough power.
Second of all, she isn't bulletproof. Bullets are sharp, and Diana's weakness is bladed weapons, including bullets.
@Mr_Incognito: Thor > Superman, and Hawkeye has an arrow specifically designed to fight Iron Man AND Hawkeye can easily dodge Cyborg's weapons long enough, so Victor could go down that way. Also, Batman would have a pretty hard time with Black Widow, and her teamed up with Hawkeye would be disastrous for Bats.
@BlotskyA: Great points, I agree. Though I wouldn't say 10/10, it would be more like 5/10. This would be much closer than most people think.
Can't remember where he did it, but whatever. It is what it is. Now that I think about it, maybe it's because it surprised Thor that he needed 250 pounds of force, but whatever.
Shazam is Thor's inferior. Cyborg wouldn't even scratch Thor.
Superman beats Hulk
Iron Man blasts Cyborg
Captain America defeats Batman
Aquaman destroys Black Widow
Flash speedblitzes Hawkeye
Thor beats Superman (just barely)
Iron Man beats Aquaman (just barely)
Flash stomps Cap
Thor and Iron Man beat Flash
Avengers win, mostly depending on Thor vs Superman. It could go either way.
His only confirmed win took everything he had against the weakest version. How well do you think he'll do against the base?
Superman got in more hits in their third fight if you read it. It ended inconclusively but due to the fact that Superman knocked Hulk around for most of the fight that counts as a win in my book.
It did not take everything he had. Superman wasn't even tired in that fight, and it only took a few punches. Superman would do just fine against base Hulk, since Hulk's literal only advantage is in brute strength. Superman is superior in every single other category, and even in strength he's close.
Hulk calmed down after Superman destroyed the drone. Hulk's known for losing his anger just as quickly as he gains it which is why he said he didn't want to fight anymore. The comic said he was growing in strength as a geometric rate and the outcome of the fight was thrown in doubt as a result. If Superman kept fighting he would have gotten pummelled
Doesn't matter who got how many hits in, it ended with Hulk throwing Superman into space. By that logic Injustice Superman beat Zeus because hit him a few times while Zeus was only able to hit him once.
Superman clearly winning right.
Superman literally says he wouldn't be holding back and "he took everything I had, and almost stood up to it". His costume is broken and he's left tired. Why are you lying?
So we're just going to ignore one of the best healing factor in comics, his durability, his endurance etc. All of which also improve as he gets angrier.
Superman has just as good of a healing factor, and as long as he is under the sun, his healing won't stop. Give me proof that anything besides Hulk's strength increases with his anger.
He can drain more energy than he gets. Hulk just gets better and better.
During WWH in the past Wolverine had been able to piece Hulk's skin but as WWH he couldn't.
In that same panel Wolverine was able to gauge his eyes out but they healed up in the space of a few punches from Hulk.
During the Indestructible Hulk run after getting hit a few times he became blur he was moving so fast where as before he was slow enough to be shot.
Flash v Cap = Flash stomps
black widow v wonder woman = Black Widow wins
hulk vs superman = hulk stomps
thor v aquaman (Depends if it's on land or in water) Land = Thor stomps, Water = Aquaman
Cyborg V Hawkeye = Hawkeye stomps
Round 2
Batman v Hawkeye and Thor = Thor and Hawkeye stomp
Flash vs Thor Hulk Black Widow and Hawkeye = Avengers wins, Flash might win serval times
Avengers Wins
Can you please tell me which drugs you take, i want to experience that trip as well...
okay On Land Thor stomps, Under the water Aquaman wins the Majority
Black Widow because of the Widow's Bite and Intelligence should overcome Wonder Woman
Black Widow beats Wonder Woman?
Hulk stomps Superman? (beating him, probably, but definitely not a stomp)
Hawkeye stomps Cyborg? (not a stomp)
https://www.superherodb.com/team-shazam-wizard-vs-team-cyclops/90-407949/#
Flash* vs captain America
Wonder woman* vs black widow
Superman* vs hulk
Aquaman vs Thor*
Cyborg* vs Hawkeye
Superman ,wonder woman, flash, cyborg* vs Thor rip thor
Batman v. * Iron man
Flash* v Captain America
Wonder Woman * v Black widow
Superman v Hulk *
Aquaman v. Thor *
Cyborg* v Hawkeye
Flash Wonder Woman and cyborg v Iron man Hulk and Thor *
Wonder Woman would xeleestomp Clint, and Thor would xeleestomp Batman.
Cap, Thor, Hulk, Antman, Wasp, Iron Man
Round 1
Black widow and hawkeye vs aquaman winner black widow and Hawkeye
Batman vs cap winner Batman
Wonder Woman vs hulk winner hulk
Superman vs Thor winner Thor
Flash vs iron man winner flash
Round 2
Black widow and Hawkeye vs Batman winner Batman
Hulk and Thor vs flash winner hulk and Thor
Round 3 hulk and Thor vs Batman winner hulk and Thor
AVENGERS WINS nuff said
- round 1 -
Batman* v. Hawkeye and Widow
Cyborg* v. Ironman
Superman and Flash* v. Hulk
Wonder Woman v. Thor*
Aquaman v. Cap*
- round 2 -
Batman and Cyborg* v. Cap
Superman and Flash* v. Thor
JL wins. Sorry Marvel.
Flash* vs Captain America
Wonder Woman* vs Black Widow
Superman* be Hulk
Aquaman vs Thor*
Cyborg* vs Hawkeye
Ironman vs Flash and Wonder Woman*
Thor* vs Superman and Cyborg
Thor vs Flash and Wonder Woman*
Team Batman wins
Flash* v iron man (stomp)
Wonder woman* v hulk (medium fight)
Superman* v Thor (medium fight)
Aquaman* v Hawkeye (squashe)
Cyborg* v black widow (squashe)
@Andreasver Superman couldn't solo Hulk can hold him off long enough for Thor to beat a Wonder Woman.
Iron Man* VS Cyborg
Ant-Man (Hank Pym)* VS Ant-Man (Ray Palmer) - Ray beats Scott though
Wasp* VS Bumblebee
Black Widow VS Black Canary*
Hawkeye* VS Green Arrow
Hulk VS Shazam*
Thor (Jane Foster) VS Supergirl*
Thor Odinson* VS Superman
Sentry* VS Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel VS Big Barda*
Scarlet Witch* VS Zatanna
Vision VS Martian Manhunter*
Quicksilver VS Flash*
Spider-Man* VS Blue Beetle
Namor VS Aquaman*
Wolverine VS Vixen*
Deadpool VS Metamorpho*
Captain America* VS Batman
Winter Soldier* VS Nightwing
And why would you put up Sentry against Wonder Woman, either she wins quite easily if Senty isn't feeling so well or he could stomp the whole Trinity at once if it's Void Sentry.
And Thor wouldn't even beat Wonder Woman(who survived a black hole, a black hole bomb, and pulled Martian Manhunter out of a black hole) on her own, and Aquaman is a far better help than Cap would be.
Flash* vs Captain America
Wonder Woman* vs Black Widow
Superman vs Hulk*
Aquaman vs Thor*
Cyborg* vs Hawkeye
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Flash* vs Iron Man
Wonder Woman vs Hulk*
Cyborg vs Thor*
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Flash vs Hulk and Thor*
And defeat hulk in a 1v1.
Hulk the strongest there is
Iron man, Genius Billionaire Playboy Philanthropist, with a suit of Mass destruction
Captain America a highly experienced soldier with enhanced strength and speed and an indestructible vibranium shield
The best archer around and the the best spy and combatant around
Also the ACTUAL GOD
I think this Battle is limitless and can yield no true victor..