Damn SirSpidey, I haven't logged on in a long time and you are still fighting this fight with the same viciousness as ever! You are one persistent guy!
The fact that you could only prove one aspect of your argument fact means you have yet to prove any other aspect of your argument fact. Until you do so, every aspect of your argument, excluding one, is your own opinion
Again the fact that everything in my comments can be found in the pages of comics means it's a fact. If you had actually done your research you would know about these feats.
Anyone can just make up a quote. For example, "My god, Thor just moved at novemnonagintillion times the speed of light." Now my job is to prove that quote fact using a comic so that everyone knows it is canon or not. What you are doing is giving us a quote and then saying it is fact without proving it beforehand. How do you expect me to respect your opinion when I don't even know if it is fact or canon? Once you have done that, I will consider your opinion and we can move on with the debate. Does that sound good?
No, what you did was give us some quotes and then said they were fact without proving they were beforehand. The only reason I don't accept your quotes is because you have yet to prove them fact. I'm not remotely close to worrying who is faster because unless Superman transcends both time and space, he is not physically capable of dodging Mjolnir, giving Thor the win in terms of speed. Also, how fast is a femtosecond in terms of light speed? How many times the speed of light is a femtosecond equal to?
I gave you quotes and told you how to find them in the pages of comics, I also gave you the comic series, now you are just denying it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it takes time for Thor command Mjolnir to transcends time, it also takes Mjolnir time to reach this. Also why hasn't he used this feat in the last few decades?
I think I know what is happening, you don't want to give me the comic issues because they are not canon. Is that it? Is that why you refuse to give me the issues in which these feats happen? Or is it that you are afraid that I'll debunk them like I did to the femtosecond feat? Is that it? As for Thor, whenever Thor throws Mjolnir, the speed of Mjolnir eventually transcends time. Superman is incapable of dodging an object like Mjolnir. Lastly, I will believe the feats you have listed for Superman whenever you give me the exact comic issue so that I know if it is canon or not
I suggest you actually read some comics and get all your information there to form a well thought out, factual, and canonical argument. Once you have done that, then you can come and debate me
Oh, I have done my research. That is evident. You on the other hand is filled with opinions. You cannot prove your argument fact because you have not read the comics
Well you obviously haven't read the comics (JLA series) so you can't be saying I'm wrong. And yes I'm done debating with you, I've given statements from the comics I cannot do any better then that, but this isn't good enough for you it seems. I would appreciate it if you would reframe replying to my comments.
Always backing out of the debate whenever you lose. I am not suppose to be reading DC comics, that is your job. All I can do is use Thor comics to prove my argument fact. How can you be correct if you cannot prove your argument fact? Quotes do not mean anything if we do not know if they are canon or not. Of course scans and quotes are not good enough for me. I do not know if they come from a canon comic. Last thing, does this mean that Thor wins?
The comic is apart of the JLA series, which started after the crisis on infinite earth event, I am using post-crisis Superman in my arguments And yes Thor wins for you because you only research is feats.
I need an issue please, or can you not even do that? How do you know which version this Superman is? Does it say it in your scans or something? Please explain. Of course Thor wins for me. As you somewhat said, Thor has better feats. What else are you going to argue other than feats? Which character is more popular?
Lol, that is not even canon. Is that the reason it was so hard for you to give me a comic? Even then, Superman is still not as fast as Mjolnir. Plus, Superman only said it, he did not physically do it. There is a major difference between saying you will do something and actually doing what you say
That wouldn't work for many first off I'm using the cannon Thor against post-crisis Superman, Canon Thor cannot time travel. Secondly he has no clue who Superman really is.
Not that you would know this, but 60's Thor is still canon. Marvel isn't terrible like DC. Plus, you even said it yourself that you are using 60's Thor, so don't switch things around to fit your needs. What does knowing who someone really is have to do with time travel? Please explain
STRENGTH Superman is only shown in the comics lifting 2.6 octillion tons. Thor on the other hand is shown in the comics pushing the weight of the Universe meaning he physically lifted infinity. Factually prove me wrong if you disagree
Again, that is not my job. You provide your arguments and provide factual evidence while I do the same for Thor. If you cannot prove your argument fact, you lose. You should not need my help to prove your argument fact
SPEED These statements come straight from the comics. Superman's reaction speed "I can measure the time between nanoseconds, so believeme when I say no sudden moves" "His powers building... I can feel it! I give myself about a nanosecond before this kid let's loose with his biggest blast yet! Almost there!" "Jackie you've got femto-second to put that--" Thor's reaction speed "Then in the space of a few microseconds, before the zooming hammer can strike, the Mighty Thor unleashes a senses - staggering blow..." Thor can move and react slightly faster then microseconds which is one millionth of a second, this is his greatest feat of reaction speed. Superman can move and react faster then a nanosecond which is one billionth of a second, a femtosecond is faster yet (one quadrillionth of a second). Thor has been fast enough to halt Quicksilver in his tracks, Quicksilver's top speed is just under light speed (correct me if I'm wrong) Thor has also outmatched Silver Surfer in battle several times, the Surfer can easily break light speed. Superman has stopped the Flash in battle several times, flash can also break light speed with ease. All these feats are really irrelevant because neither Clark or Thor's opponents were moving at their top speeds during the battle. But when it comes to speed Superman simply has far better and more feats, Phasing through objects, Freezing time in place, rebuilding technological machines in seconds, traveling from one galaxy to next in a matter of minutes, etc
Ah, so you just used the opinions of random people from the internet to get your argument. Alright, you clearly cannot debate effectively, but regardless, I´ll still debate you
To do that you would have to actually listen to what I already said. Look up the quotes I gave, this should bring you to the very page of the comic I used.
Thor wins in: - Intelligence - Strength - Speed - Durability - Power - Combat ________________________________ Go ahead, try and debunk me. I have everything backed up with facts
Well you always like to be very aware of what people's Opinions are and then you say they are wrong and you use your Thor Comics to prove everything you said was right instead of them.
It's not always wrong to use your Thor Facts, But here's one thing to keep in mind some people don't like you because of your Arrogance. I have a friend in real life who's just like that and I remember him saying "I am better than you at everything!" What I suggest for you SirSpidey is if you want to contuine thinking that thor beats superman that's fine but just try not to be so selfish about it and being rude to others.
Sometimes you like to go a lot of far with your emotion of willing to show everyone your facts about Thor and give them evidence when you do this it's like wasting your time because no one feels like searching them up because they are lazy I would do it because I ain't lazy but this is what i'm trying to say just don't go too far of what your mind is telling you.
If you don't like my evidence, that's your problem, not mine. The only reason I provide evidence is to prove my argument fact, which y'all should appreciate. I don't see why that is so wrong
It isn't a problem I'm just trying to say that you go very too far, Yeah maybe so people might appreciate what you use evidence with but you don't have to keep on going etc, Your typing sometimes it's sometimes all about nothing because a lot of times when you use some Thor Evidence not that many people go and look at what you found they just look at the comic version and don't read it. Also I did this one time and wrote a lot but guess what when I finished it was all for nothing this isn't a problem it's just I'm trying to help.
Post Crises Vs Thor (Could go either way, Thor 5.5/10 due to magical attacks)
New 52 Vs Thor* (Stomp)
Maybe 1 week but a few hours no
And yes Thor wins for you because you only research is feats.
Superman is only shown in the comics lifting 2.6 octillion tons. Thor on the other hand is shown in the comics pushing the weight of the Universe meaning he physically lifted infinity. Factually prove me wrong if you disagree
Thor´s hammer transcends both time and space, so there is no possible way Superman can dodge it
These statements come straight from the comics.
Superman's reaction speed
"I can measure the time between nanoseconds, so believeme when I say no sudden moves"
"His powers building... I can feel it! I give myself about a nanosecond before this kid let's loose with his biggest blast yet! Almost there!"
"Jackie you've got femto-second to put that--"
Thor's reaction speed
"Then in the space of a few microseconds, before the zooming hammer can strike, the Mighty Thor unleashes a senses - staggering blow..."
Thor can move and react slightly faster then microseconds which is one millionth of a second, this is his greatest feat of reaction speed. Superman can move and react faster then a nanosecond which is one billionth of a second, a femtosecond is faster yet (one quadrillionth of a second).
Thor has been fast enough to halt Quicksilver in his tracks, Quicksilver's top speed is just under light speed (correct me if I'm wrong) Thor has also outmatched Silver Surfer in battle several times, the Surfer can easily break light speed. Superman has stopped the Flash in battle several times, flash can also break light speed with ease. All these feats are really irrelevant because neither Clark or Thor's opponents were moving at their top speeds during the battle. But when it comes to speed Superman simply has far better and more feats, Phasing through objects, Freezing time in place, rebuilding technological machines in seconds, traveling from one galaxy to next in a matter of minutes, etc
I suggest you research these feats for yourself.
- Intelligence
- Strength
- Speed
- Durability
- Power
- Combat
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Go ahead, try and debunk me. I have everything backed up with facts
Not telling you what to do but I hope you make the good decsions
Not telling you what to do but I hope you make the good decsions