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SUPERMAN vs THOR

Created by remy94, 3 y 9 mo 9 d ago.

Using facts and statements from the comics let's see who wins this fight. Between The Man of Steel and the Son of Odin.

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ElectroSpino
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Silver Age* Vs Thor (Stomp)
Post Crises Vs Thor (Could go either way, Thor 5.5/10 due to magical attacks)
New 52 Vs Thor* (Stomp)
SirSpidey
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Can we move onto strength, now that Thor wins in speed?
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JuggarNot
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Damn SirSpidey, I haven't logged on in a long time and you are still fighting this fight with the same viciousness as ever! You are one persistent guy!
SirSpidey
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Lol, I like to indulge in the things I love doing
JuggarNot
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Bring that to a profession and you'll probably succeed! (and/or piss off a bunch of folks)
SirSpidey
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Ya, people really hate being proven wrong with facts
IMABATMAN42
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I honestly think that if it were a real fight then Thor would win, barely.
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IMABATMAN42
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Unless superman gets to the sun, if he does that then Thor has no chance.
SirSpidey
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If Superman gets the Sun, then Thor gets to go Warriors Madness
ManofPower
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Dude Sundip Supes is nothing compared to Warriors Madness .
Maybe 1 week but a few hours no
remy94
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The fact that everything in my arguments can be found in the comics means that it is a fact.
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SirSpidey
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The fact that you could only prove one aspect of your argument fact means you have yet to prove any other aspect of your argument fact. Until you do so, every aspect of your argument, excluding one, is your own opinion
remy94
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Again the fact that everything in my comments can be found in the pages of comics means it's a fact. If you had actually done your research you would know about these feats.
SirSpidey
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Okay whatever, don't prove your argument fact. It doesn't matter anyways because Thor beats Superman in speed
remy94
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I did prove my arguments with statements from the comics, you just can't accept it, because you don't consider or respect other people's opinions.
SirSpidey
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Anyone can just make up a quote. For example, "My god, Thor just moved at novemnonagintillion times the speed of light." Now my job is to prove that quote fact using a comic so that everyone knows it is canon or not. What you are doing is giving us a quote and then saying it is fact without proving it beforehand. How do you expect me to respect your opinion when I don't even know if it is fact or canon? Once you have done that, I will consider your opinion and we can move on with the debate. Does that sound good?
remy94
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Again every quote I've used can be found in the comics so it is fact, not something I made up.
SirSpidey
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Again, you have to prove your quotes come from the comics
remy94
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I did prove my quotes came from comics, you just cannot accept that fact because it would mean Superman is Faster than Thor, your favorite character.
remy94
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I did prove my quotes came from comics, you just cannot accept that fact because it would mean Superman is Faster than Thor, your favorite character.
SirSpidey
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No, what you did was give us some quotes and then said they were fact without proving they were beforehand. The only reason I don't accept your quotes is because you have yet to prove them fact. I'm not remotely close to worrying who is faster because unless Superman transcends both time and space, he is not physically capable of dodging Mjolnir, giving Thor the win in terms of speed. Also, how fast is a femtosecond in terms of light speed? How many times the speed of light is a femtosecond equal to?
remy94
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I gave you quotes and told you how to find them in the pages of comics, I also gave you the comic series, now you are just denying it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it takes time for Thor command Mjolnir to transcends time, it also takes Mjolnir time to reach this. Also why hasn't he used this feat in the last few decades?
remy94
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This debate was really over before it began, because you are unwilling to believe the facts I gave.
SirSpidey
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I think I know what is happening, you don't want to give me the comic issues because they are not canon. Is that it? Is that why you refuse to give me the issues in which these feats happen? Or is it that you are afraid that I'll debunk them like I did to the femtosecond feat? Is that it? As for Thor, whenever Thor throws Mjolnir, the speed of Mjolnir eventually transcends time. Superman is incapable of dodging an object like Mjolnir. Lastly, I will believe the feats you have listed for Superman whenever you give me the exact comic issue so that I know if it is canon or not
remy94
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It would be nice to have another opinion in this debate.
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SirSpidey
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Why? Because you got beat so now you need other people to debate for you?
remy94
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No I would just like to hear and consider the options of other people unlike you.
SirSpidey
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Ya, key word, OPINION. You just don't want to debate me because you can not refute my facts
SirSpidey
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I suggest you actually read some comics and get all your information there to form a well thought out, factual, and canonical argument. Once you have done that, then you can come and debate me
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remy94
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I suggest you do the same
SirSpidey
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Oh, I have done my research. That is evident. You on the other hand is filled with opinions. You cannot prove your argument fact because you have not read the comics
SirSpidey
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Are we done here? Have I won?
remy94
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Well you obviously haven't read the comics (JLA series) so you can't be saying I'm wrong. And yes I'm done debating with you, I've given statements from the comics I cannot do any better then that, but this isn't good enough for you it seems. I would appreciate it if you would reframe replying to my comments.
SirSpidey
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Always backing out of the debate whenever you lose. I am not suppose to be reading DC comics, that is your job. All I can do is use Thor comics to prove my argument fact. How can you be correct if you cannot prove your argument fact? Quotes do not mean anything if we do not know if they are canon or not. Of course scans and quotes are not good enough for me. I do not know if they come from a canon comic. Last thing, does this mean that Thor wins?
remy94
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The comic is apart of the JLA series, which started after the crisis on infinite earth event, I am using post-crisis Superman in my arguments
And yes Thor wins for you because you only research is feats.
SirSpidey
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I need an issue please, or can you not even do that? How do you know which version this Superman is? Does it say it in your scans or something? Please explain. Of course Thor wins for me. As you somewhat said, Thor has better feats. What else are you going to argue other than feats? Which character is more popular?
remy94
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This is why I've given you more examples this is just one of many times has been stated to have such speed, read Justice league the lightning Saga.
SirSpidey
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Lol, that is not even canon. Is that the reason it was so hard for you to give me a comic? Even then, Superman is still not as fast as Mjolnir. Plus, Superman only said it, he did not physically do it. There is a major difference between saying you will do something and actually doing what you say
remy94
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I'm using post-crisis Superman in my arguments so that comic is cannon.
SirSpidey
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Ah, so that means I can use 60's Thor. Ok, that makes this battle easier. Thor goes back in time and kills Superman as a child
remy94
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That wouldn't work for many first off I'm using the cannon Thor against post-crisis Superman, Canon Thor cannot time travel. Secondly he has no clue who Superman really is.
SirSpidey
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Not that you would know this, but 60's Thor is still canon. Marvel isn't terrible like DC. Plus, you even said it yourself that you are using 60's Thor, so don't switch things around to fit your needs. What does knowing who someone really is have to do with time travel? Please explain
SirSpidey
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STRENGTH
Superman is only shown in the comics lifting 2.6 octillion tons. Thor on the other hand is shown in the comics pushing the weight of the Universe meaning he physically lifted infinity. Factually prove me wrong if you disagree
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remy94
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I'll get to strength after we have covered Speed
SirSpidey
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What else is there to cover? You cant prove your argument fact or canon so I win, correct?
remy94
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If you are going to keep saying my arguments are false, when you don't even know if they are or not then you are just assuming I'm wrong.
SirSpidey
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And you are assuming you are correct. This whole argument would not exist if only you read comics
remy94
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Okay maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm right how will you know until you actually look into it yourself.
SirSpidey
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Again, that is not my job to do. If you cannot prove your argument fact, that is your problem, not mine
remy94
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Also you assume I don't read comics, I read just as much as you do.
SirSpidey
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Prove it. Because right now, it is evident that you do not read as much as I
remy94
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I've given you the statements from the comics but you are not going look into them because that's not your job, that makes a lot of sense.
remy94
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I cannot prove that I read more neither can you.
SirSpidey
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It makes perfectly good sense. Scans are not reliable. You do not know if they are canon or not
remy94
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Why wouldn't they be cannon?
SirSpidey
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Because we do not know if they are or not
SirSpidey
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SPEED
Thor´s hammer transcends both time and space, so there is no possible way Superman can dodge it
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remy94
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Thor's Hammer yes, Thor himself no
SirSpidey
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And your point is.....?
remy94
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Give me a statement from the comics that suggest Thor's reaction speed and reflexes transcends time and space.
SirSpidey
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I never said that
remy94
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My point is that if Superman's reaction time is so much faster then Thor's, then he won't be able to command Mjolnir fast enough.
SirSpidey
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Hold on, we do not know if anything you said is fact or canon. You have yet to prove it
remy94
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That's for you to find out if I'm not using facts, if you are not biased then you should have no problem looking into Superman feats.
SirSpidey
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Again, that is not my job. You provide your arguments and provide factual evidence while I do the same for Thor. If you cannot prove your argument fact, you lose. You should not need my help to prove your argument fact
remy94
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I'm using facts, prove I'm not.
SirSpidey
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You have to prove you are using facts in order for me to do that
remy94
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Using*
remy94
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I'm nothing before pre-crisis Superman, and 60s Thor tell now
remy94
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SPEED
These statements come straight from the comics.
Superman's reaction speed
"I can measure the time between nanoseconds, so believeme when I say no sudden moves"
"His powers building... I can feel it! I give myself about a nanosecond before this kid let's loose with his biggest blast yet! Almost there!"
"Jackie you've got femto-second to put that--"
Thor's reaction speed
"Then in the space of a few microseconds, before the zooming hammer can strike, the Mighty Thor unleashes a senses - staggering blow..."
Thor can move and react slightly faster then microseconds which is one millionth of a second, this is his greatest feat of reaction speed. Superman can move and react faster then a nanosecond which is one billionth of a second, a femtosecond is faster yet (one quadrillionth of a second).
Thor has been fast enough to halt Quicksilver in his tracks, Quicksilver's top speed is just under light speed (correct me if I'm wrong) Thor has also outmatched Silver Surfer in battle several times, the Surfer can easily break light speed. Superman has stopped the Flash in battle several times, flash can also break light speed with ease. All these feats are really irrelevant because neither Clark or Thor's opponents were moving at their top speeds during the battle. But when it comes to speed Superman simply has far better and more feats, Phasing through objects, Freezing time in place, rebuilding technological machines in seconds, traveling from one galaxy to next in a matter of minutes, etc
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SirSpidey
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Prove everything you just said with facts
remy94
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They are all facts, just look up the quotes and you will find them.
SirSpidey
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How about you give me the comic, or do you not read comics
remy94
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Yes I do read comics, but it would be impossible for me to read every single Thor and Superman comic.
I suggest you research these feats for yourself.
SirSpidey
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Ah, so you just used the opinions of random people from the internet to get your argument. Alright, you clearly cannot debate effectively, but regardless, I´ll still debate you
remy94
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I have used nothing more then what is in the comics, if I am just making this stuff up, then you should be able to disprove it.
SirSpidey
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How about you prove it comes from the comics. I am not the one who should be proving or disproving your argument fact. That is your job, not mine
remy94
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To do that you would have to actually listen to what I already said. Look up the quotes I gave, this should bring you to the very page of the comic I used.
SirSpidey
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Nope, all it does is bring me to some opinion filled website. Just face it, you cannot prove your argument fact
remy94
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Look a little bit harder, if you are using Google go into images.
SirSpidey
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Lol, you are using scans of course. Prove your scans are canon
remy94
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And why wouldn't they be?
SirSpidey
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Because we do not know if they are or not
SirSpidey
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Thor wins in:
- Intelligence
- Strength
- Speed
- Durability
- Power
- Combat
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Go ahead, try and debunk me. I have everything backed up with facts
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Bbq444
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Yeah you always have a backup plan because you Hate Dc Comics and you strive to beat them up with your knowledge of Thor Comics
SirSpidey
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Is it wrong to have everything I say backed up with facts?
Bbq444
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Well you always like to be very aware of what people's Opinions are and then you say they are wrong and you use your Thor Comics to prove everything you said was right instead of them.
SirSpidey
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Is it wrong to prove everyone incorrect by using facts?
Bbq444
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It's not always wrong to use your Thor Facts, But here's one thing to keep in mind some people don't like you because of your Arrogance. I have a friend in real life who's just like that and I remember him saying "I am better than you at everything!" What I suggest for you SirSpidey is if you want to contuine thinking that thor beats superman that's fine but just try not to be so selfish about it and being rude to others.
SirSpidey
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Proving people wrong is rude?
Bbq444
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I don't know how to explain this but sometimes don't go too far with your emotions.
SirSpidey
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What do you mean?
Bbq444
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Sometimes you like to go a lot of far with your emotion of willing to show everyone your facts about Thor and give them evidence when you do this it's like wasting your time because no one feels like searching them up because they are lazy I would do it because I ain't lazy but this is what i'm trying to say just don't go too far of what your mind is telling you.
SirSpidey
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If you don't like my evidence, that's your problem, not mine. The only reason I provide evidence is to prove my argument fact, which y'all should appreciate. I don't see why that is so wrong
Bbq444
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It isn't a problem I'm just trying to say that you go very too far, Yeah maybe so people might appreciate what you use evidence with but you don't have to keep on going etc, Your typing sometimes it's sometimes all about nothing because a lot of times when you use some Thor Evidence not that many people go and look at what you found they just look at the comic version and don't read it. Also I did this one time and wrote a lot but guess what when I finished it was all for nothing this isn't a problem it's just I'm trying to help.
SirSpidey
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I don't care if people go look into them or not, I'm just proving my argument fact
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It's either Do or don't do.
Not telling you what to do but I hope you make the good decsions
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It's either Do or don't do.
Not telling you what to do but I hope you make the good decsions
SirSpidey
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I don't know why providing evidence for my argument would be the wrong decision, but hey, you can think what you want