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Superman (DCEU)vsThor (MCU)

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Superman (DCEU) Kal-El
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Thor (MCU) Thor Odinson
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RajinKabir
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) People tend to over rate the neutron star feat. It was a dying and a way below average sized neutron star. Its diameter maybe barely exceeded 1km. But an average neutron star has the diameter of 20km. That is twenty times.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-always-try-to-justify-DCEU-Superman-dying-from-a-nuke-strike-but-bad-mouth-Thor-for-almost-dying-from-taking-the-full-power-of-a-star-which-is-highly-more-impressive-Supes-fought-Batman-while-Thor.
The neutron star was also an inaccurately made. Because the gravitational pull of a neutron star should be highest after black holes. But the that neutron star didn't have that strong gravity because rocket was quite okay around it. So thor only took on the heat. Which was actually way less than the nuke in BVS. And again supes endured the world engine. People underrate it. The world engine was changing the damn worlds mass,gravity and weather. And the central beam had incalculable pressure also the weather was like krypton and still superman flew against the beam and destroyed the engine.
I found out that a newly formed neutron star could be up to 1 trillion degrees, but as I recall the one in Nidavellir was rather old, which is when the temperature drops down to 1 million degrees, which is actually not as hot as the center of our sun (15 million degrees K). However, I think that at those temperatures, the light emitted is in the X-ray range, and therefore invisible to humans (the visible light we see from our sun is in the photosphere and is only around 10,000 degrees K.). And the light from the neutron star thor endure was not just visible but it was bright like the sun. So it is even less hotter.
https://www.quora.com/What-was-a-more-impressive-feat-Thor-surviving-a-blast-from-a-neutron-star-In-Avengers-Infinity-War-or-Superman-escaping-the-pull-of-a-black-hole-in-Man-of-Steel. And the neutron star was not just dying but also very small. So the energy emition was even lower.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 1 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Anyone wanna debate with me on this??
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TheImaginator
TheImaginator 1 mo 1 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) I would but I vote Superman to
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 1 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Lol.🤣.👍
Jongensoden
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
3 year member
Superman (DCEU) I changed my vote
RajinKabir
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Oh thanks
RajinKabir
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) But @Jongensoden tell me what made you change your mind??
Jongensoden
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
3 year member
Superman (DCEU) I think because Superman is slightly faster with better striking strength.
RajinKabir
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Slightly faster is an understatement and I can prove to you he has a higher strength and resistance and durability than thor.
Michealdem17
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @RajinKabir I agree with you.
RajinKabir
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Thanks.👍
TheImaginator
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Also agreed
Itz_cameron19
Itz_cameron19 1 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Because of the speed he flies at?!?
And when he punches someone he pushes his entire body forward ,ig
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) He has punched people standing or floating in a same spot as well with the same force.
Itz_cameron19
Itz_cameron19 1 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Also i think dc does this for dramatic affect
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 23 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Superman is obviously shown stronger on screen than thor. Your blaming DC now. That a very bad logic. Its superman . The most powerful being on earth. If he does such things it is not unusual. I could say the same. Thor was made as a team player. So the much has nerfed him. So yes he is weaker than superman
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 23 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Let's not bring DC and marvel director of crew members or any of all that. If you wanna debate let's debate with actual facts. Debate with what they have done so far. Let's debate about the details of the movies and all that.
You are saying it's dramatic. That totally unfair and illogical. Superman is supposed to the the most powerful being on planet earth.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 21 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Downvoting won't help you.
Itz_cameron19
Itz_cameron19 2 mo 3 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Thor wins.and those of you saying that supermans punches are stronger yall are wrong.just because he knocks his opponents back doesnt mean they are stronger the only reason his opponents get knocked by his punches is beacuse he can fly
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 2 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) 😂. No offence but That was a terrible logic
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 2 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Wanna debate??
Itz_cameron19
Itz_cameron19 2 mo 4 h 47 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Sure ,never done this before
Itz_cameron19
Itz_cameron19 2 mo 4 h 45 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Also can you vote on my battles
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Well okay I'll start.
Just because someone flys doesn't necessarily mean he would hit harder. Why do you think so??
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windshadow
windshadow 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
2 year member
Thor (MCU) I like how people are always fighting about their lifting strength. Thor stomps in that category but in a battle only striking strength matters, and Thor has Supes beat there.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Superman punches create shockwaves and lifing strength matters too. It allows us to know about their capabilities
Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Shifting tectonic plate>Anything Thor did.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Agreed
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) There is not way where Thor beats Supes at striking strength. Thor's punches are weak. The only reason Thor can come close to beating Superman is because of stormbreaker. The most powerful punch from Thor was to Hulk in the gladiator match in sakaar. Thor was at his prime then. He took a run up he jumped and punched hulk but hulk didn't go that far only fell down a few feet apart. And superman, a normal punch from him and Steppenwolf flew towards the wall and hit the wall hard.
Michealdem17
Michealdem17 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Could this superman be worthy of stormbreaker
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) He doen't need to be worthy to lift stormbreaker. We saw that Thanos caught is mid air and used it to try to kill Thor
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 3 mo 3 h 36 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Just so you guys know, a neutron star is much more powerful than a nuclear bomb, and if Superman barely survived the bomb, I doubt he would have the same luck resisting all a neutron star's power Thor resisted, by that side, Thor demostrated that he has more durability/resistance than Sups of far.
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Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 3 mo 2 h 30 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Superman resisted the pressure of a machine that terraforms the entire earth and flew back against it. He also pushed a tectonic plate.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 3 mo 1 h 55 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Well, Sups resisted the pressure of a machine that was slowly terraforming the planet (it's still less than a neutron star, search on Google what is it), oh but he were about to die when was hit by the nuclear bomb (saved by the sun), it's curious, seems that the character instead of evolving does the opposite. Thor threw the Stormbreaker so hard that it contained the power of the 6 gems and harm seriously Thanos.
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Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 3 mo 37 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) He wasn't almost killed by the Nuke, that's ridiculous. He just took a minute to heal. Plus, he got hit at point blank range directly in the face. Thor was burned to a crisp after surviving the neutron star for about a minute. Superman survived the pressure of the world engine terraforming the whole planet without a scratch.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 3 mo 20 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) It didn't take Superman a minute to heal anything, he was practically sucked up by the nuke radiation and if it hadn't been for the Sun, most likely he would have died, also, he didn't receive the impact directly on the face, was Doomsday who was in front while Superman literally used him as a shield, on the other hand, Thor endured the power of a star that triples the power of the machine that resisted Sups, minimum Thor had to get hurt from such a feat, right?
Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) I think Neutron Star Feat is irrelevant here,Thor have no way to put Superman down and also he will get trashed and ragdolled. Kurse hits made him fly,Thanos made him bleed,Ultron made him affected,Hulk smashed him,Hela cut his eye out while Superman ragdolled entire Justice League,curbstomped Steppenwolf,affected Doomsday,snaped Zod's neck. Thor without his Mjolnir&Stormbreaker can barely beat up the Hulk. He cannot beat Thanos with the sword who is way slower,less powerful than Clark, you do conclusion.
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) It's funny because you only mentioned the bad things about Thor and all the good things about your friend Superman, I could also mention when Superman was dragged like a dog by Batman and it is not fair to say that using kryptonite was cheating when Bruce is just a human, He was pierced as paper by Doomsday, he almost died from the bomb etc... Thor when he was "ragdolled" by Kurse did not even know his powers 100%, also you greatly underestimate Kurse, Hulk didn't smashed him, Hela became more and more powerful the longer she remained in Asgard, and Thanos humiliated Thor (Endgame) because Thanos was using a full Uru armor, Stormbreaker beated Thanos sword, Thor was in no condition to fight a 1vs1, he was depressed and no longer had faith, don't compare the Thor from IW who contracted the power of the 6 gems together with Stormbreaker and was about to kill Thanos with the weakest version of Thor to date, that even so, you saw how Thor was even equal in brute force with Thanos as they struggling, of course the feat of the neutron star is relevant here (too much, in fact) already what in It tells how far Superman is from catching up with Odinson in endurance and durability which is very important in such a fight.
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Mr_Incognito

Thor survived the Neutron star for more than a minute. Listen to Thor and Eitri's conversation in Infinity War.

"How long will it take to hold it open?"
"A few minutes. Maybe more. Why?"
"I'll hold it open."
"That's suicide."
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Mr_jeager07 neutron star will only make superman stronger. That one of his advantages. Thor doesn't have a better durability than Supes. The only time we ever saw supes bleed was when Bats used kryptonite. And Thanos armour wasn't made of uru. Only his sword (even that wasn't confirmed). Thanos broke his helmet with one hand in the fight between cap america right before he beat the hell out of cap. Amd superman was only dragged by bats because he used kryptonite. @Mr_Incognito the thor in Thor Ragnarok can beat the hell out of Hulk . I can't agree with you on that. But i only that version of thor's punches can hurt supes . But he can shake those of course. In dceu Diana is goddess. She fought ares who killed all other god except zeus but injured him. Diana killed ares . These prove ares and diana are really powerful gods. And superman is clearly more powerfy that diana hence ares. Many think that neutron star is more powerful than a neuclear bomb. But when considering that we must consider an average neutron star. An average neutron star has the radius or 10km. Thats 20km in diameters. But the IW neutron star's diameter was maybe bearly above 1.3km. So its energy emition won't be as powerful.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Mr_jeager07 do not underestimate kryptonian atmosphere and gravity. I don't think Thor can survive long in kryptinian atmoshpere. And superman didn't need the sun to stay alive. He could've atleast survive by the cosmic radiation from distant stars. I seen that in comics. And the neuclear bomb only took away super solar energy within his cells and made him look pathetic. The nuke didn't even make any wounds on supes. The difference between the votes is that MCU is a huge hit at box office. There are many movies. Thor has made appearence in many movies. And DCEU only made a few films and supes only made appearence in 3 movies. But he already did so much more than Thor just in three movies
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Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Mr_jeager07 "Thor when he was "ragdolled" by Kurse did not even know his powers 100%" and i did not know that powers have something to do with blunt force durability,he gets gnomed by Kurse hits or maybe you say "he just wanted to check Kurse mighty fist,but something went wrong" all i see in that scene is Thor flying like a ski jumper but in the reverse. "also you greatly underestimate Kurse" yeah i did that,because i know that he would have send Thor into astral projection if he wanted to ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) "Hulk didn't smashed him" *proceeds to gets smashed by green cucumber,and gets a vietnam flashbacks of his father* "Stormbreaker beated Thanos sword" What version of the Endgame did you watched ? because this sounds like a porn. "Thor was in no condition to fight a 1vs1, he was depressed and no longer had faith" oh yes ? Anthony Quote: "The difficult road that Thor's traveled ultimately give him strength.He was stronger than ever by the end of the Endgame" "IW who contracted the power of the 6 gems together with Stormbreaker and was about to kill Thanos with the weakest version of Thor to date" for the thousand time,Thanos has been caught of guard. "of course the feat of the neutron star is relevant here (too much, in fact) Superman fists is the answer to his durability. Because Neutron Star counts as Energy durability,not Blunt force Durability which will be easily surpassed by Clark. And my favorite quote "He was pierced as paper by Doomsday" yeah and *Thor gets hurt by loki's dagger* "he almost died from the bomb" he regenerated by the influence of the sun and he bullrushed Doomsday in full speed causing a massive explosion.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Thor only took the neutron star for 58sec give or take a second .
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir I really admire you, I love your OC's but what does range have to do with power level? the fact that a nuclear bomb "reaches" an average of 10km and the neutron star reaches one of "1.3km" doesn't change anything, plus, Supes feeds ONLY on the yellow suns (DCEU), a star Neutron is the complete opposite and it's true, he only bleed twice when Batman used kryptonite (which was fair) and when he was pierced by doomsday but he was also literally sucked by the nuke which is somewhat worse, not that his durability is insane, but that he still doesn't faces things of his level or even worse (like the level of the neutron star) Oh, of course Thor has the advantage in this aspect, by the way, how Superman is doing to equalize the power of an ax that contracted the power of stones that together vanished the entire HALF of the universe??? that is a feat much more than multi-planetary, not to mention that said ax hurt a being that until then no f*cking hero had been able to do a single scratch to him (omit Tony's). This is DCEU dude, isn't comics, the kyptonian atmosphere is just a kinda more dense than Earth's, saying that Thor wouldn't survive to that is really stupid.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Toreno I swear that while I was reading a part of what you just answered I thought, ''this guy is just kidding'' lol, everything you repeated from what I said you didn't clarify it, Hulk didn't smash him, he only helps Thor better control his Powers, yes, those ''Vietnam flashbacks Thor had of his father'' was why the Hulk's ass was about to be kicked by the god of thunder (if not for the oldman lesbian).

And yes, if it has to do with the fact that Kurse has "ragdolled" Thor with that at there time he hadn't yet discovered his powers 100%, I explain you, the characters in the MCU have an, let's say evolution, So if Thor when he fought Kurse had had the same level that he demonstrated in ragnarok, right now you wouldn't be talking about it, would you? XD, ''what version of the Endgame did you watched? because this sounds like a porn'' I saw the version where when Thor and Thanos were with their respective weapons struggling and it was seen when Thor disarmed easily Thanos with the Stormbreaker, that was the porn r*pe we all saw... the Antony's quote It was only for the directors to get on well with the character, please, be more analytical than that, Thor was 5 damn years getting drunk and untrained, even Tony told him that he wasn't fit and that was more than clear, plus, Thor didn't "take" Thanos by surprise (you are just using the cheap excuse that many use to undo such feat), it was clearly seen that Thanos put on an expression of effort while literally attacking the Stormbreaker without success, no It wasn't a surprise, Thanos was simply humiliated. ''Thor gets hurt by Loki's dagger'' yes, this dagger was also made of Uru (it didn't come from Asgard!?), also Thor isn't that he was affected much by that stab, as you saw, he immediately got up completely healed. ''he bullrushed Doomsday in full speed causing a massive explosion'' also it saw how Superman put Doomsday in front of the nuclear bomb literally using him as a shield lol, and still ended up as a mummy later.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @MrJeager07 thanks for admiring me. I mean alot😀. And thanks for liking my OCs . But the neutron also makes superman stronger. Its a quiet sure. Only red suns make superman weak. You can see that here
https://www.quora.com/Could-DCEU-Superman-withstand-punches-from-the-Hulk-and-a-blast-from-a-neutron-star-like-MCU-Thor-did
And here
https://www.quora.com/Could-a-neutron-star-kill-Superman
I have checked some other sites they say the same. Neutron will only make supes stronger. And kryptonian atmosphere just being a bit dense?? Are you srious dud you not see what kryptonian gravity did to metropolis combine than to the much harsh atmosphere. And about the axe . Thor is again ridiculously dependent on the axe yes it blocked the energy blasts from the gauntlet. But just because he hit thanos doesn't mean he could do the same to supes. He is too damn fast. He is even faster than lightning.
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Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @MrJeager07 "Thor disarmed easily Thanos with the Stormbreaker, that was the porn r*pe we all saw" I swear you are being blind or something ? i implore you to rewatch Thanos vs Thor Endgame on YT and say it again,this is the only thing i want from you )(° ͜ʖ °) ''this guy is just kidding'' i am not totally serious,because i want to be at least entertaining because why not.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And just because loki uses a dagger doesn't neccesarily mean it would be uru. Supes using doomsday as a shield is inacurate. The nuke hit doomsday in the neck and supes right next to him. Nuclear blasts don't work like that. And in ragnarok doctor strage pulled of thors hair. Thor got tased in ragnarok too. And when comparing to this thor @Mr_Incognito can compare the kurse fight scenes. This thor is also dependent on his axe. And the axe going throught the infinity stone blast isn't that big of a deal. If thanos wanted he could have snapped the axe out of existence. He just wasn't using the stones that way
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Strenght
Superman>> Thor
Durability
Superman>>Thor
Speed
Superman>>>Thor(Undeniably)
Combat
Thor>>Superman(won't help much because of supes speed)
For a moment believing that thor is stronger than supes but why did he bother fighting with iron man in avengers, kurse in thpr dark world, ultron in age of ultron.
Ans Supes creates shockwaves in fights . Thor can't take supes punches. Supes can dodge thor axe and lightning and fly faster.
And almost forgot the size of the star has everything to do with power. Bigger the star the more energy,light,heat it emits. It basic knowledge
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir No problem. Now, Superman doesn't get strong with white dwarfs or neutron stars, the pages aren't enough evidence.

During the Silver Age, the answer is "doesn't happen absolutely nothing".

In "Action Comics" #376, the Anti-Superman Gang has a contest of sorts, initiating four attempts on Superman's life. One attempt involved an ultra-sonic attack on his superhearing. Superman's solution was definitely outside-the-box ... all the way to a white dwarf star.

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This was what happened when Supes and a "neutron star" met, as you see Superman didn't get stronger (neither in comics nor in movies) and I show what I affirm with real evidence.

Also, Doomsday was the one who took most of the damage from the bomb, Superman was affected by collaterality and still he ended up like a mummy after x2.

Thor ragnarok was an absurd comedy, they shocked Thor with a high voltage device, made him look ridiculous many times... Thanos WANTED to get rid of the Thor's axe, keep an eye on his battle again please and you will notice when Thanos puts an expression of effort on his face as he shotting to the Stormbreaker and when he nearly died, he preferred to do the job once and for all so as not to risk him. If Loki's dagger came from Asgard it's most likely from Uru, it's the metal they use the most there and by the way, it was the same type of dagger with Loki was about to kill Thanos in IW, if not by Thanos' broad reflections. Yes, the Kryptonian atmosphere is devastating, I understand, but it was still ridiculous to say that Thor (god residing in Asgard, a higher dimension) wouldn't resist that. It's also ridiculous to think that after seeing what happened in Ragnarok Thor is "ridiculously dependent" on his weapons, I didn't expected you to tell that, the truth. Superman could be very fast but he isn't faster than the Stormbreaker or the Mjolnir, I assure you.

@Toreno
Just look at 0:09 and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say ''Thor disarmed easily Thanos with the Stormbreaker'' lol, implorate to yourself rewatch the scene from the fight next time, be intertaining, but don't take it so literal either 🤣🤣.

Thor IW (+ Mjolnir) >> Superman.
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Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Dusk_Pikachu I've actually looked at how much time elapses between Thor on screen and him falling out. It's a little over a minute. However, it's a trivial point.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Mrjeager07 that was th esilver age superman not the post-crisis or new 52. Tyrell
Already said that white dwarf and all other stars give them different properties. Only the red sun makes them weak. If dwarf star can give them power a neutron star can also do that. Cause they aren't thst different.

The color of the star determine what they will do to supes. And the neutron star was bright. So supes gets amped. And the neutron star feat is vastly overrated. The full force of a star my foot. Taking the full force of a star would mean absorbing it all which thor didn't do. He only took part of it. The rest energy fired the forge.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And loki trying to kill thanos with the dagger doesn't mean its uru. Thanos's durability against sharp objects is not good just as Thor. He is even weaker than prime thor. Thor is a god from asguard. But that doesn't prove he can be godly on krypton as well. Mortal humans also have been to asguard. And the center of an nuke explosion is way hotter than the suns surface. The neutron star in IW was a dying and way way below average neutron star. And thor did survive it. He needed stormbreaker to heal.And yes thor is highly dependent on his hammer. In ragnarok if he achived his prime godly form. But in IW he again was dependent on stormbrealer. He can't do much without it. no mattar how much thor has done in MCU. It isn't in Supes level. Supes has shown higher strenght amd speed feats than thor. Supes is more durable . Doomsday pierced his skin because he was exposed to kryptonite rays just before he stabbed doomsday. Thor can never touch supes. He is too damn fast. And the neutron star thor took on was glowing really bright. With a star that bright It is sure it would amp supes.
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Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Mrjeager07 But the problem is,that Thanos threw his sword to handle Thor in hand to hand combat. It is clearly visible on 0.25 speed. Odinson didn't even disarm him. But in this film on 0:19 you can see that Thor cannot even handle Thanos with Both Stormbreaker&Mjolnir,and he gets knocked out in the end,and this purple guy is just using one hand while Thor is using his full strength,and still he gets rekt nuff said. Here it is:
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And @Mrjeager loki's dagger wasn't uru. Because eitri made weapons of gods. Swords,axe,hammer,shields. Not little daggers and knives. And in thor movie loki was lost in space. Then thanos hired him . So he was disconnected from asgaured. Thor's and Superman's durability are very different.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir the fact that Superman new 52 or post-crisis has had improvements with respect to the Silver Age Superman doesn't mean that neutron stars already amplify him unlike before, also, in the scan you sent me, in what part they mention Superman or what makes you think he are talking about him? Tyrell said ''US'', that doesn't mean that he also refers to Superman and assuming so, that's COMICS bruh, if you already have no way of showing me that Sups feeds on neutron stars in Comics, much less in movies. You also have no proof that the dagger Loki was using wasn't of Uru (it's normal for you to say so, you want to make Thor look like the loser, right?) I also have no consistent evidence to show that it was of Uru, but I am favored by the fact that Loki when were coming from Asgard along with his dagger most likely is that such a dagger is to made of Uru more that it's not to, but it gives me a bit the same to continue discussing about that. The feat of the Neutron star isn't overrated and deserves all the honor he has had, Thor not only proved to have abysmal durability, but also proved to have enough strength to keep it open, as you saw, the mechanism failed to hold the levers and was broken.

So, Superman is faster than Thor, I don't deny that, but Superman will not be in constant movement, at some point he will have to stop to strike, right? It's not a race, it's a fight to death and speed is not all it takes to win, Thor was able to keep a equalized struggle with THANOS! that same Thanos who easily took himself the hands off a Hulk that lifted all the collapse of a building as it saw in Endgame!! And Superman hasn't demonstrated such a feat of strength that I can remember.

Resistance: Thor >> Superman
Strength: Thor > Superman
Speed: Superman >> Thor (big advantage)
Skill: Thor >>> Superman
Feats: Thor >> Superman.

@Toreno It's very stupid to invent that Thanos ''let fall'' the sword to handle Thor lol, clearly it was seen how Thor was leading the struggle taking him down and Thanos was making a great effort, Thor took the sword off from him but, Thanos took the advantage for his skill, Oh please, Thanos with one hand held against Thor while in another take Thanos was trying with all his might to kill Thor without success (using both hands, curious) 0:28 , not to mention that Thor was in an unfavorable position and still was able to hold his hand to hand long enough until Captain America helped him.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Pulling a ship, shifting a tectonic plate, lifing a building (Justice league), destroying kryptonian world engine that not strangth? If you think shifting the tectonic plate isn't a strength feat than you chould knowsome thing.
The Juan de Fuca Plate is the smallest of earth's tectonic plates. It is approximately 250,000 square kilometers . You are proving that thors durability maybe higher but not strength or speed. Superman could hold the star open for sure. And i know it isn't comics. But the star was shining yellowinsh white. It would definitely amp him. The russo brothers didn't make the star acurate. An neutron star doesn't glow like that. They almost made it like a regular star. Supermans strength feats are higher and speed feats are too. And durability is still arguable. And I am not trying to make Thor look like a loser . He is my favourite hero from MCU. And i don't conssider thanos and hulk close to Prime Thor and Supes. Thery both are far weaker than Prime Thor and Superman. I just saw the neutron star scenes. Superman could shift the rings and hold the the star open and even if the star doesn't amp him it would have no bad effect on him. Cause it isn't red. Amd Tyrell was refering to himself and supes. Cause he was from the same star system superman was from. He was talking about him supes in comics. The movies atleast try to keep the basic fiction details same.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And i don't overrate the neutron star scene. Thor enduring the star for a minute is really awsome because that really isn't something a god is made to do. But i think his shifting the rings and opening the star is overrated. He slingshotted rocked towards the ring which was only able to break the ice on the rings then he said "More power rabbit". Rocket pushed the trusters to max and was able to move the ring. That means cracking the ice was the real deal not moving the rings. Moving the rings aren't that hard and for holding the star open. That wasn't actually hard for a god like thor. You may think that is was hard because thor was screaming. But no he wasn't screaming because it was hard but a star was burning his ass off. And for the slingshot superman could have done that far better. Remember the fight scene between him and zod when zod first learned to fly. He grabbed supes by the cape and sling shotted supes and supes went through 5 buildings. And that was when zod was still learning his capabilities the JL superman could've done a better slingshot. And about being in speed. That depends on Superman's choice. He can damn well be in speed all the time if he wanted. We saw that when he fought with flash. And even if he doesn't stay in speed he will definitely dodge thor axe easily. We also saw that in Justice League. Steppenwolf was never able to hit superman. Thor isn't faster in combat than steppenwolf if not than he is slightly faster. But being slightly faster than steppenwolf won't help. He has to be way faster than that. And superman can definitely hit far harder than Thor. His punches create shockwaves with the radius of 20feet. You can see that in the fight between him and zod. And remember when batman tried to run supes over with the batmobile. Supes didn't even move a damn inch because of the batmobile. Imagine Thor there . He definite the f**k would have been pushed back a few meters. And thor having a better combat feat wouldn't help him either. Do you think steppwnwolf was an untrained idiot. He was an invader. He also attacked world's somewhat like Thanos. He was alone causing troubling the entire justic league. Even his combat was no match for Supes strength and speed
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And your verdict is weird. Thor doesn't have a better resistence than supes and definitely not more feat. Thor doesn't have super speed,super sences,x-ray vision, heat vison, freeze breath.
Strength
Superman>>Thor
Resistence
Superman>>Thor
Skill
Thor>Superman
Feats
Superman>Thor
Combat
Thor>Superman
I may have used some bad language so i apologise for that
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Mr_Incognito That is the time that passes in real life, not the movie. Eitri who has created weapons for really, really long and has much knowledge states that it would take a few minutes, maybe more. A few is 3+, meaning that Thor resisted it for more than 3 minutes.

@RajinKabir I don't agree. First of all, Thor does have Super Speed. If you've been paying attention, Thor blocked a blast from Loki which reached the top of a mountain in less than a second. He was able to understand Quicksilver's movement and actually able to keep him off his feet. He also traveled far distances in Wakanda destroying ship-to-ship.

Combat, Experience, Skill:
Thor > x 1500 Superman | Thor is 1,500 years old. He has fought for a really long time and has more experience than Superman. I just wanted to point that out. I disagree with almost everything there.
Durability:
Thor >>> Superman | Neutron Star is far above a Nuclear bomb. Superman was near to death when hit from it. Although Thor was as well, he has Stormbreaker, which has the power to revive Thor.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) There is no way Thor's durability is that high than Supes. And when you or anyone says that a neutron star is far more powerful than a nuke we always think of a average neutron star with 10km radius. But he movie neutron star was far far smaller. And we don't even know if Superman would have died because of the nuke. Because he was floating in space for about 3 mins Without sunlight or the atmoshpere. But he was very well alive. But we know for sure that thor would have died if it wasn't for stormbreaker. And blocking a blast of bullet fired at you doesn't mean you have speed. He is a god. And a warrior to. Surely he can block a blast fired at him. An average bullet travels at 2,500 feet per second. So a blast reaching the top in less time and thor blocking it isn't something special. He is not fast than steppenwolf if not he is slightly faster. But not enough to match supes. And the quick silver moment when thor threw his hammer at silver he wasn't running at his full speed. You can see when the hammer reached silver it was really slow. The shot was taken in two different speeds. They showed us thor throwing the hammer in normal speed but showed us the hammer reaching silver in super speed. I saw that scene over and over again. No thor isn't super fast. If he was why wouldn't he fight like that more often. And in the last fight in endgame he bled by only a few punches from thanos. Where Superman took multiple punches from zod,doomsday,nam-ek,faora.
And don't say because it was fat thor. Because even thor being fat won't make him less durable. His 5 year old bad diet and no training will only effect his strength and skill not his durability. Thats weird.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And one nore thing. Eitri said a few munites but only took 58 secs.AND THAT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR ON SCREEN. Please don't argue on this. I watched it a few times before commenting. Its not possible for it to last more than 58secs give or take a couple second. I remember the neutron star beings called a dying star. That means it was at is worst energy output(as less as possible at the moment). So it is slightly overrated.
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Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @MrJeager07 In this instance, Thanos has been unarmed,Thor used Mjolnir&Stormbreaker and what ? Purple guy disarmed him and knocked him out with one headbutt, even when Captain America went to help him, why you refusing to admit it ? everything is on screen,Thor gets his ass kicked in any occasion during Endgame. Even with Captain America,Iron-Man at his side rushing at Thanos together, he was unable to land any succesful hit. In 1 vs 1 combat he almost died by his own axe without outside help. With or Without the sword,Mad Titan remains victorious lol
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir Hmmm this is what I think about it, to say that Superman (after being on the verge of death by a nuclear bomb) could resist better than Thor the neutron star would be speculation, you don't know that, also, when was that Sups moved the tectonic plate? I was looking for the scene in yt and I couldn't find it...

So first, what makes you think that neutron star was smaller than average? where was it said to be? I admit that it was dying and that was mentioned, but nowhere was it said that it was smaller, I agree with you in some things, but in others I have to refute it to you.

@Dusk_Pikachu is right, Thor didn't hold only 1 minute, minimum he did hold it +3 minutes!! remember what Eitri said (dwarf experienced in forging weapons and the same guy who forged Thanos' gauntlet) he said: it will take a few minutes, maybe more and those "a few minutes" were neither one nor two, they did some cuts on the scenes cuz they will not show the 3 minutes entire and that's obvious, so as Dusk said This means that Thor resisted the heat of the star at point-blank range for more than 3 minutes (minimum), even though Superman is resistant, he's not indestructible either and we will see if he doesn't bleed or flinch when he fights Darkseid (I hope he will enter the DCEU honestly), and Darkseid is more or less on the same level as Thanos.

Second, the special effects and collateral damage that the DCEU implements doesn't work the same as that of the MCU, that's a good thing about DC and a bad thing about the MCU that I have to highlight,
The MCU isn't very specialist working that aspect as much as DC but, Sups because he causes shock waves with his fists, does he have more force than Thanos just because Thanos doesn't have the same collateral effect? The Mad Titan is so strong that he broke the unbreakable Cap's shield made of Vibranium with his sword, with his fists he easily destroyed Tony's resistant nanotechnological armor and even wounded him before doing it, so don't talk about Thanos' blows making to bleed Thor as if that guy's attacks were little. Superman is faster than Thor and I recognized that, but I do not agree with you saying that Thor does not have super speed, when it was seen that he could fly at a great speed WITH NO WEAPON in IW when he was activating the star rings, it also showed in ragnarok, how he reached a surprising speed when he was being chased by a fire dragon, or when he was destroying ship by ship in IW, Thor is not slow and I am almost sure that in his next movie (Love and Thunder) Marvel will give Thor a nice speed feat as it should be.

Superman fights on Earth, it's normal to cause so much devastation when he fights, Thor has fought in more hostile and rigid environments than Earth (Asgard, Hell, Sakaar, Jotunheim...) and causes devastation too.

I also don't agree that Mjolnir is "slower" than Superman and that Sups easily dodges it, bro Odin when he banished Thor he sent the Mjolnir directly to Midgard and it just took a few seconds to arrive in! and it wasn't through the Byfrost, Odin threw the hammer and it pierced through space and dimension reaching Midgard, it means that Mjolnir can reach speeds much higher than that of light in the MCU, Super nor jokingly would reach that speed in the movies, I highly doubt it.

Thor defeated Surtur without much difficulty, defeating the Destroyer which the directors said they would do it as close to comics as possible, he almost killed Thanos, then he killed him ... Thor definitely beats Superman in feats, at least for now.

Superman is really powerful and his battles are incredible, I really love how this Superman is right now at the DCEU (although they exaggerated it a bit in The JL), but Thor has 1500 years of experience from all points of view, he said he has defeated enemies the DOUBLE of powerful than Thanos and in Endgame didn't end with him because Thor was in the worst possible condition, rivaled in strength with him on several occasions and already told you about the strength of the Mad Titan, broke the BYFROST...
There are so many feats that I will just keep putting my money on Thor over and over ...

Anyway, you know that I still admire you, if at any time you were offended by what I said, really sorry, this has been one of the best debates I have had in a long time and I thank you for that :)

This is my final verdict, it's not my intention to make you change your mind about the result because I know I will not achieve it, but at least I have already stated my reasons

Resistance: Thor >> Superman
Force: Thor > Superman (might still be debatable)
Speed: Superman >> Thor
Experience and Skill: Thor >>> Superman
Feats: Thor >> Superman (Sups is still young at DCEU, he yet has a long way to go).
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Toreno I think I have already stressed several times that Thor in Endgame was in the worst possible condition to fight hand-to-hand and yourself have said it, "everything is on screen" lol, I dont ignore that Thanos had knocked Thor out of a head butt, Thanos was desperate to put on the gauntlet, but don't ignore when Thanos was pushing the ax with all his weight and might to Thor's chest and he still couldn't, Thor was in an unfavorable position and he was still able to stay even equalized in strength around 10 seconds, Thanos doesn't remain victorious, Thor already beat him once and cut his head, while Thanos has only beaten him once while Thor was in his weakest version, it's only basic analysis :)
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Everyone knows and agrees that there was a news paper on the wall of Wallece Vernon Keefe in the movie batman vs superman saying Superman Shifts Tectonic Plate Amd Stops Massive Earthquake. And please don't argue with that now. There are countless superman movies and every superman from the movies have done somethings even higher than that. Superman (2006) was able to carry a massive island into orbit. Superman (Donner) was able to fly so fast around the earth that he made earth rotate in reverse. Every superman on screen has shown planetary levels feats. And Shifting the tectonic plate was the feat of dceu supes.
https://www.quora.com/How-strong-is-DCEU-Superman
And we have google to know about the average radius or diameter of neutron stars. And honestly you don't have much proof that would make Tho more stronger or has more resistence. Only the durability is arguable. And i told you thor has traning but so did steppenwolf. But because of supes's superior speed and strength steppenwolf couldn't do anything. It would be same for thor
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And now you are blaming visual effects.🤣🤣 And Darkseid will be much more stronger,faster,powerful than Thanos. Don't bring thanos here he doen't come close to Thor or Supes. And even if you let the shock waves go the devastation to metropolis is enough to prove supes superior strength. And don't you think the visual effect make MCU heros look weaker because thaey might be weaker.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And I wasn't offended at any point. I admire you too. And this is actually the best and longgest debate i have been in. And if we are giving verdicts than my final verdict would be this.
Strength
Superman>>Thor
Speed
Superman>>>Thor.
Durability
Superman>Thor
Skill and combat
Thor>>Superman
Resistence
And one more thing asguardians don't use Uru at random. Only the godly weapons like Thor's hammers or odin's staff like weapons are made of Uru. Normal weapons were made of usual metals. Again Thanos wasn't just able to break cap's shield because of his superior strength but because his sword was most probably made of Uru and it was a sharp blade.
Superman>>Thor
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir I was not trying to argue against that, just ask WHEN it happened and how because i didn't noticed it, now that I know, that's fine and I believe you, I won't even bother looking for the evidence.

Why is the mention of all those Supermans? We are only talking about the DCEU Superman that I remember, also, shifting a tectonic plate is not a planetary level feat, at most it would be of a continental level.

Obviously there is no evidence that directly says that Thor has more durability or strength than Sups as well as there is no evidence to the contrary, but there are the facts and with that you can tie the dots until you reach a conclusion, even if a nuclear bomb has more range, it still would never equal the power of a neutron star, it is not necessary to investigate it when it's mere logic, not even if this is a small star, as simple as that.

Yes, Steppenwolf couldn't do much against the exaggerated JL Superman, the only difference is that Steppenwolf does not have the power of lightning nor does he have faithful weapons as powerful like the Mjolnir or the Stormbreaker.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) And I never said "visual effects" I only mentioned that DCEU is more used than the MCU to put more collateral damage to their action scenes, even so they seem more realistic to me the fights of Marvel and no, that does not mean that the heroes of Marvel They are less powerful than those of Dc, it is also a bit early to affirm that Darkseid will be much more powerful than Thanos was, we do not even have a trailer and we will have to wait until then to debate about it.

I am very happy that you admire me too, that means a lot and now that you've given me your final verdict (which was what I waited) and I've given you my's I think we could end this debate, right? Anyway, it was a pleasure :).
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Well i thought you'd might argue about that. And yes you weren't blaming visual effects directly. Superman is the only hero who has that collateral damage effect not Wonder woman,Aquaman,Shazam. Because He is above the very planet. In justice league when they were planing to bring supes back it was mentioned by batman that he was stronger than a planet. His exact word were". HUMAN BEING CAN ONLY ABSORBE SO MUCH. A MOTHER BOX WAS DESIGNED TO RESHAPE A PLANET. BUT WHAT IF YOU WERE STRONGER THAN A PLANET. YOUR CELLS LYING DORMANT BUT INCAPABLE OF DECAY."You are saying that there is no proof. But when has thor ever lifted a building and flew it away or pulled a ship. Durability is arguable. But you say shifting a tectonic plate is not planatary level. But what do you want supes to do?. Shift the planet? In Man Of Steel Jor El said Supes has become more powerful than he ever imagined and to know his true capabilities he needed to keep testing his limits. Thor might just might be slightly durable. But there is no way he is more stronger or faster or has more resistence. And thor striking strength is far less than supes . Thats why he doesn't create shockwave. And about Darkseid do you think DC is going introduce a villain weaker than Thanos. Darkseid undoubtedly will be more powerful. Cause steppenwolf was able to hold off tue entire JL minus Supes. Darkseid will definitly be much more powerful. Sorry if I keep replying. Its like a reflex with me.
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Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @MrJeager07 "Thor already beat him once and cut his head, while Thanos has only beaten him once while Thor was in his weakest version, it's only basic analysis :)" Except Thanos has been restrained by everyone,while the only thing that Odinson has to do was cut his head, he didn't even fight. In infinity war,again it wasn't a fight he used his lightning coming out from the stratosphere which Thanos didn't even expect,but it doesn't matter because he still snaped his fingers. In 1 vs 1 confrontation in normal basis Odinson loses everytime. Thanos from endgame would still rekt IW Thor the same way.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Toreno Thanos is no match for Supes or Prime Thor
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir What exactly do you mean by "above" or "stronger than a planet"? Why shouldn't I think that is out of context here? Sups was too OP in JL because of the mother boxes and also because the directors exaggerated him, don't continue evading it pls, do you think that Steppenwolf for not having touched Sups is weaker than Zod because Zod did affect him? There is no point in getting weaker villains every movie, right? That would explain why Darkseid wouldn't be so powerful when they introduce him in the DCEU soon, the power that Sups had in JL wasn't only his own, having been revived by the mother boxes, they gave him more power, note that he wasn't even recognized himself at first, the boxes clearly changed him, I bet the Man of Steel Sups couldn't have done the same to Steppenwolf and even so, when Sups hitted Steppenwolf multiple times it just sent him away, not towards the same effect of shockwaves he was doing in MoS and this Sups was supposed to be stronger, right? so let's not continue giving it much importance to the aforementioned visual effect.

Thor doesn't need to have more striking strength than Superman to win, in a fight it's worth using any factor that favors you and believe me that if Thor has the Stormbreaker and the Mjolnir he will not hesitate to use them against Sups and please don't say that they wouldn't do either nothing him.

Whether you like or not, moving a tectonic plate it's not on a planetary scale and Sups hasn't yet moved a planet, while containing the 6 stones with the Stormbreaker that Thor threw with great force is of a multi-planetary scale and even more, although it wasn't seen collateral damage while it was happening, don't deny that infinity gems are at a universal level in the MCU and Stormbreaker >> gems. I hope you don't use the same cheap excuse that ''Thor caught Thanos by surprise'' that been using Toreno.

Please friend, just as I don't argue that Superman is faster than Thor and I admit it, don't do it with Thor being more durable than Superman, that was already stayed clear enough and more when Thor not only survived the neutron star, but also to the explosion of his ship when Thanos destroyed it with the power gem in IW.

Like you, it's also like a reflex to keep answering you Zz.
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Toreno I agree with what @Rajin said you lmao.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Well. Stronger than a planet would mean he is what the statment says. And yes Thor wouldn't hasitate to use stormbreaker . But that won't help him. And there is nothing to escape. Thor durability is still arguable. And Thanos can use the stones as he likes. What make you think The energy blast from Thanos was multiplanetary. It could've have a small town level. I don't deny the stones are Universal. But they aren't below stormbreaker. If thanos had used the stones different he could have stopped it mid air or blow it out of existence somehow. But Thor caught him by surprise. And this isn't a cheap excuse. I have seen many people say this. Thanos was blown by the lightning and he had to do something quick so he did that wothout thinking.He couldn't ack quickly. The stone are the greatest power of the universe and Thor said it himself in Age Of Ultron. And stormbreaker blocked it not Thor. That doesn't prove Thor is more durable or more powerful. Amd you mother box theory is terribly inacurate. They used the mother box to bing him back to life not to amp him. Even if Supes isn't planet level he is definitly above moon or continetal level. And even bringing him back would take alot of energy. And Superman can never be exaggerated. Its superman. When we think of Superman. We see him doing planetary level feats. There nothing exaggerated. And there was no mention of Supes being amped by the mother box. I heard it first from you😕. Thor will try to hit him with stormbreaker but he can dodge it easily. He dodged steppenwolfs punch while he was smiling. And i don't want to sound bad or annoying. There is no choice but to agree that superman's speed is far superior than Thor and strength also. But durability is still very arguable. See this
https://www.quora.com/Is-Superman-DCEU-stronger-than-Thor-in-Ragnarok-MCU
And Zods punches did effect him. But he shaked those off like they were nothing. They fought in metropolis. Destroyed many thing. But none of that had any lasting effect on them. And the neutron star Thor endured was a way below avarage and it was dying. But even that only proves thor durability against blunt objects and energy. And he has be cut by many times. Superman was cut by kryptonite and doomsday nothing else. The nule only drained his energy. But there was no scratch on his face or hand. Because his face and hand were still exposed to the nuke. Again i am not comparing Steppenwolf to Zod. Zod is definitely more powerful. I know what you are saying. But just because the MCu got new villains every time doesn't mean the DCEU should too. And Steppenwolf isn't the real deal. He is just the pawn. Just like loki was in Avengers. Im comparing Steppenwolf to Thor. Thor is more powerful than Steppenwolf but not faster. And i said it before and i am going to say it again tThor was stabbed by loki. And it wasn't Uru. Not all asguardian metal is Uru. Uru was only used to make godly weapons like sword,axe,hammers not little knives and daggers. We saw many asguardian metal breaking and armours getting pirced by hela. And Uru is above hela's weapons (not Hela). And you can also ask this to @Tyrannes. He also agrees. They use a neutron star to fire the forge. And if they use make little knives and daggers dont you think its a bit overkill. Thor bled when Thanos punched him a few time in endgame.
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir I think you are resorting to the same arguments that you used when we started debating, don't you think? It's a little boring for me to answer you again what I had answered before, but come on.

The Stormbreaker although not above the infinity gems, at least they would be on a par or just a little lower, but for the Stormbreaker to have repelled the power of something that reaches the Universal scale it cannot be only on a solar level ( for example) it has to be a minimum level a little less than the Universal (being generous). Now, I asked you and even so you did, to say that Thor took Thanos by surprise yes it's a cheap excuse, even more when you tell me that you have heard it from many people but, I thought you were more analytical than those people, tell me, Did you see the expression of effort on Thanos' face when he was trying to get rid of the ax with ALL the power of the gems without success? don't say he didn't have time to think well, when Thanos is a master at all kinds of counterattack, taking him by surprise is not enough to justify such humiliation, maybe if Thanos had used the gems in another way, MAYBE, if he had disappeared it, or whatever, but the most important thing was already seen, without tricks, without inventions, in PURE power the gems they lost against the Stormbreaker and Thanos isn't so silly like to trust himself and let that happen under his will.

The page you sent me is not impressive at all, it only shows one more person who supports just like you the man of steel and only mentions the feats of Sups saying that he is much stronger, more durable ... than Thor, but he ignores what Thor has done and the humiliating things that Batman did to Sups, it's easy for anyone to say it when you do not have someone to debate the matter, of course, also, where did that person get the information that the ship that Superman was dragging was 6375 tons? It's an invention and I am 99% sure of that, I will not give even importance to what you sent me.
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) That neither the Stormbreaker nor the Mjolnir will help him against Superman? why? because superman is as hard as vibranium or because of its speed? oh please, the Stormbreaker can reach the same speed as the Mjolnir and I already told you about the speed that this weapon has achieved in the MCU, Superman will NEVER get from Asgard to Earth in a few seconds flying like Mjolnir did, also Thor doesn't will attack Sups in the same way throughout the fight so that you say "Superman dodges the Stormbreaker and already won" no, it's not that simple, Thor is a master in arms and if he fights alongside them melee, those weapons will hurt Sups, since, at the beginning of Man of Steel, you saw how Zod fought Jor-El and didn't even show super speed in that fight (melee) and Zod =< Sups.

That you hadn't said that Steppenwolf was no rookie? Was he an invader and was he more powerful than Zeus? for you to now change your mind and say that he is just a ''pawn'', Zod is not more powerful than Steppenwolf, clearly the mother boxes amplified Sups and my statement makes a lot of sense if you see it from some neutral point.

Sups in MoS was not strong enough to prevent Zod from killing those people and therefore had to kill him, he had no other way to stop his head.

You are right, not any weapon in Asgard is made of Uru, only godly weapons, but you also failed to say that Loki was Odin's son, worthy of the throne after Thor, he wasn't any ordinary Asgardian and if he wanted to send the dwarves to forge him a ''simple'' dagger from Uru he could do it without problems, total, he was Loki and I wouldn't be surprised by the dagger that he brought with him was made by Uru, since if it wasn't, it would not make sense that there was even hurt Thor, just think about it. I already told you about the striking strength that Thanos has.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 23 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) The mother box didn't amp him. Superman and other kryptonians have shown such speed and strength before. Superman went from the indian ocean to metropolis in just 75 seconds give or take a couple seconds. We saw Faora speedblitsing a few troops real quick.
https://gfycat.com/amp/loneflippantbasil-dceu-faora-uls-powers-and-abilities-gif.
And yes don't you think Loki was just a pawn of Thanos. So yes Steppenwolf is a pawn of Darkseid. And superman overpowering to JL is nothing suprising. Superman always holds back. It is for sure in comics. And in movies too. And when he was resurrected he was confused and he did remember much from his life. So he didn't hold back. And hell to the f**k yes Steppenwolf was far less powerful than Zod and Supes. Superman was capable of doing all that he did in JL even before he died. Those were basic superman feats. And The it is known that Steppenwolf isn't more powerful than Supes even in comics. Batman wanted to bring supes back because he could easily defeat Steppenwolf.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-you-think-Superman-was-overpowered-in-the-Justice-League-movie
There was no slightest suggestion that supes of amped in the movie. The JL's only idea was to bring him back to life. Only the people who want MCU thor to win against him would say that. And even if if he was amped. Why not count that in. Thor gets to be his prime. But Supes don't. And i agree that the weight of the ship is invented. But if you think it normally. I just learned an average weight of a cargo ship is 100000 tons. Even if you consider a far less weight. You can think 50000 tons. Again there are far bigger ones weighing 200000tons. But lets consider. 100000 or 50000 tons. Still that is really high.
https://boatinggeeks.com/how-much-does-a-cargo-ship-weigh/.
Why do you think Zod would show super speed in the fight with Zor-El. That was on Krypton. They were like humans there. And in the fight of Zod and Superman they went to space and came back in moments. And also supes shifted a tectonic plate. And the most important reason they didn't show us superspeed before JL because they didn't need to. There were no speedsters. There was Flash in JL so they had to show supermans speed.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 23 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And about Thor. When did Mjolnir go to earth from asguard in seconds?? Again let me make myself clear about to stones. They are the greatest powers of the universe. Thanos could do amazing things with them. But also trivial things too. Like he could make a cup of tea with the stones. But that won't make it multiplanetary tea. The only powerful thing he did except killing half the population was throwing a moon at Ironman. The energy ray toward Thor wasn't even above city level let alone planetary. In short you can't prove that it was. And catching thanos by surprise doesn't really mean anything. Agreed with you on that. And don't get me started about thanos striking strength. He is nerfed and over wanked . I have seen all his fights over and over again. But they only slightly surpass hulks. But not even close to supes. Thor can take Thanos easily. And again about loki and his Uru daggers(Unproved). In Thor 1 he got lost in space. It isn't sure if he had any weapons left. He could aquire them form someone else. As he said he has grown and been to many worlds thor hasn't even heard of in Avengers. Thor blunt Durability is really really amazing but not against sharp things. And the director didn't make thor as the main hero of MCU. They made him and team member(Unlike Supes). And i am not saying stormbreaker can't hurt Supes. It can kill him. But thor has to successfully hit Supes. But thats where Supe's speed comes in. He can dodge Thor's hits. And all you are giving me are theories about alll that. While i am giving you actual details of the movies. Well i am not saying all theries are wrong. But still. And resorting to same arguements? They were still uncleared. And yes Thor won't fight the same way always. But superman also won't. Thor can't keep up with Supes.
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 23 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Even after everything you wrote you still rely on the speed of Sups to make him look like the winner, this time I will not respond again to every argument before because it would be very boring for me, it wouldn't be an debate, even if you were right that Thor isn't resistant to Sharp stuff, Superman doesn't have any weapons to fight, and weapons are always something that helps you swing when someone is superior to you, don't compare the way Marvel works with his villains with the way Dc works with theirs, it is very out of context that you say that because Loki was a pawn of Thanos and Steppenwolf was also a pawn of Darkseid, sorry but I still think that Zod is not more powerful than Steppenwolf, you also have no way of proving that Sups was holding back before JL with real evidence, it's a very poor excuse to repel the fact that Sups was POSSIBLY amplified by mother boxes when they revived it (and my allegation makes perfect sense, don't think I make random statements) just you don't analyze them enough before answering, where it was said that Sups was dragging a cargo ship? A boat was seen, but they did not specify WHAT KIND of boat it was (that I remember).

Thor isn't as fast as Superman but his weapons yes, and you have said it, they could even kill him if they reach him.

What forceful way does Superman have to kill Thor when Thor has a incredible resistance? it will not kill him with a clean fist, while Thor has methods to kill quickly the Kryptonian.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 22 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Sorry if i bored you with Superman's speed . I try to use it less this time. And Steepenwolf being less powerful than Superman is basic comics logic. And if it is a basic info in comics than why not in movies. It is definite in movie. If you think otherwise. You can ask others on this site. I actually am asking others opinions too. Why do you think Zod isn't more powerful than? Steppenwolf is clearly less powerful than Doomsday. And Superman fought with doomsday quiet equelly. Surely he can defeat steppenwolf in his condition in BvS. Superman wasn't amped by the box. You think i can't prove that but neither can you. That is just a theory i heard firat from you. You can't prove that. I read the plot on wikipedia and read it in other sites but none of them say supes was amped. That is a terribly unproved theory. Superman was in his basic powers. The box's was used to bring him back to life. was trying to convince you about he previous speed and strength feats by my last comments. Like traveling to metropolis and pulling ship etc. And the ship may not be a cargo ship but it would still weight at least 10000 tons.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/4025-1981/forums/please-calculate-the-weight-of-this-ship-bvs-1778791/
But superman was doing it without any struggle. I said it before and ill say it again. It is very normal for the comics superman at his usual to beat Steppenwolf easy. Than why not
in movies. Its easy. if steppenwolf was so powerful how come he was overwelmed by a group of parademons at the end. Don't deny that. Even the gods of olympus didn't do much to defeat him. amd about supes holding back. He was still learning his true capabilities in MOS. In BVS he was shown powerful. But still his shifting a tectonic plate means his true capabilities are yet to be revealed. That was shown to us in JL. Superman keeping up to flash is not a surprise. Not saying he is faster than him but it has happend in comics to. And also he was said the most powerful man in the world. He should not have problems defeating steppenwolf. In comics things may be different but in movies steppenwolf was nerfed.

Did superman do things different in JL?
Yes
Could he do that before??
Hell to the f**k yes.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 22 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And yes stormbreker can kill superman. There is no denying that. But i am going to use my speed card one more time. How do you know stormbreaker go faster than supes. It doesn't have its own speed . Its speed would depend how thor throws it. And about thors durability he was ragdolled by kurse . Kurses hit effected him greatly. He was even bleeding. If we think of thor durability (both against sharp and blunt) higher than supes how did he bleed with just a few punches from kurse. And in endgame thor bled when thanos punched him in the face a few times and supes can easily hit far harder than kurse. A very simple shove from superman and batman was blown back several meters and he wasn't wearing his usual suit but a heavy armour. On the other hand supes took punches from Zod,doomsday,faora,nam-ek and he tanked them real easy .And if thor is a god his durability is the same always doesn't mean if he is in his prime or not. But one more thing Thor can't fly as good as supes. Throughout the MCU he hasn't fought anyone who is always flying. And Thanos grabbed Stormbreaker in mid air when thor was calling it and he almost killed thor with it. Don't you think supes can also do something like.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 22 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) AND dude we probably have the longest debate in this website!!!🤩🤩
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 22 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Ok, Doomsday is so far the most powerful villain that the DCEU has had until now, Superman wasn't on par with Doomsday, when DD was just born and was in his base stage, he showed that he was superior to Sups, not to mention how would it be when he did absorbed all that radiation reaching its strongest phase, not counting that they were 2v1 and yet Superman was dragged by Dooms. Well you win, I will withdraw the theory that Sups was possibly amplified with the mother boxes in JL and I'll only say that "he reached his best moment" just like Thor in IW, Thor still has his weapons and remember that the Stormbreaker can reach the Same speed as Mjolnir and even more, did you see how Mjolnir flew through the portals that Malekith opened in A Dark World? that speed is equal to or greater than that of Superman, not to mention that the Mjolnir as the Stormbreaker, has many times reached speeds much higher than the light's in comics, why not in movies? Thor's weapons are definitely just as fast as Sups and they can hurt him, it doesn't depend on how hard Thor throws them, but if how he uses them, you saw that the Mjolnir has its own speed and trajectory, the Stormbreaker in the MCU fulfills the function of Mjolnir's ''substitute'' and it has practically the same characteristics, except that the SB doesn't have the dignity spell that the Mjolnir does. Which superman will the Stormbreaker use against Thor just like Thanos did? nah, Thor definitely won't be that dumb this time, we're talking about the skillful and ruthless Thor IW, right? Of the stronger versions of each, Thor gained much more stamina than he had when Kurse hit him. Believe me, Sups will not control the SB better than its own owner, it could even be dangerous to grab it, he can cut himself or electrocute "inadvertently" XD.

In summary, I don't deny that Superman is physically superior in some respects, but Thor has many hax, he is a MAGIC being and we already know the effect that magic has on Sups in comics and possibly also in movies, the lightnings coming from magic could mortally injure him and that would make Sups rely heavily on his speed to win this, since if Sups is hit by one of Thor's godly attacks, he is likely to die, Thor can also make twisters with the Mjolnir to handle more easily sups as he did it with the Destroyer, Thor has plenty of escape routes for me to lose this, so my money is still on Thor :).
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 22 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) And yes, we probably have it lol.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 21 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Well Stormbreaker hasn't shown the same speed as mjolnir. And i don't think it has the same speed. Mjolnir and SB both have their trajectory yes but they go only in that trajectory after they are off of thor's hands they can't go any other way but that trajectory unless thor calls them back. And yes Mjolnir was really fast especially when Thor calls it to himself but not the same speed when he throws it. Thor threw mjolnir in a circlular trajectory in Ragnarok it was really fast(but not close to supes). And thor threw SB in a similar trajectory in IW when he arrived in Wankanda. But it was really slow. You can see it. There was a clear speed difference. The mjolnir could go and come faster than SB because of its different shape. And thor is a god. The god of thunder. he can summon thurder and use it as his weapon. He can also create tornados. But he is no magician. His thunder isn't exactly magic. They are regular tunders with a godly touch. And the superman in movies can take those. Hulk,Thanos took them real easy. Supes can definitely take those. And there is no way Supes can get electricuted by grabbing SB when it isn't in thor's hands. And mjolnir being faster than supes when thor throws it at superman is quiet impossible. When thor was flying away at the from the dragon in Ragnarok he was almost about to be eaten. And Mjolnir is faster when thor calls it to himself and Mjolnir is at a great distence. But when thor throws it it doesn't get faster then how thor throws. and at the end of IW when thor threw SB at thanos. Thanos was trying to blast it. But it did nothing. The speed of SB wasn't even discresed. And Thor threw it really hard. Because he was hell bent on killing Thanos. but it was really slow compared to supes. Even if thor throw it even faster but it can't reach supes speed. And yes Stormbreaker is the substitute of Mjolnir. But it isn't the same. Mjolnir was a hammer it had a small handle . it was heavy compared to it's size. On the other hand SB is an axe. It has a wooden handle. Different in their dynamics. Going thorugh portals doesn't prove they are faster than supes. I saw the movie yesterday on TV. But it didn't seem that fast. Fast as a bullet maybe. Maybe even sligltly faster. But not close to Supe's speed
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 21 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Hmmm, as a good debater that I am I have to advise you not to argue against the speed that the Mjolnir and the Stormbreaker can reach. It's VERY risky for you to claim that Thor's weapons don't even come close to Sups speed, Superman is INCREDIBLY fast in the movies, I've been practically admitting it during the course of this whole debate, he has great feats of scrolling but he's not that fast either like a lightning or the light and just as you make comparisons between the Sups of the comics and the Sups of the DCEU (that Sups could absorb energy from a neutron star according to you, for example) I can also make comparisons, since the cinematography creates his characters the most possible similar to comics, equal to extremely important objects such as the Mjolnir, Stormbreaker, the gauntlet, cap's shield etc ...

I already mentioned you the speed that Mjolnir and Stormbreaker achieve in comics, right? So can you prove that the Mjolnir has already reached its maximum speed in the MCU or that the Stormbreaker was as fast as it could be in IW? You surely can't prove it and you have no basis to claim that such weapons are slower than Sups. As I said, the Stormbreaker meets many similarities to the Mjolnir, they're practically the same and I assure you that the speed of these weapons don't work the way you just said, the Mjolnir doesn't go slower when Thor launches it, nor it goes faster when it returns back to his hand, it doesn't make sense, the Mjolnir can go as fast as required and the speed it showed in A Dark World was really higher than it showed in ragnarok (for example), it was also seen in Thor 1 as the Mjolnir came from across the city to where Thor was in very few seconds and I am completely sure that it can reach speeds much higher than that if required, just like in the comics, the SB wouldn't be the exception or yes? The SB is still young in the MCU, they just got him in, there is still more to see about this incredible weapon in Thor: Love and Thunder.

You can be sure that Thor is a magical being, maybe not entirely, but he has several aspects that come from magic just like his godly weapons
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/thor-153/is-thors-lightning-magic-537837/
And as I said, any kind of magic could be deadly to Sups and even more considering that Thor's attacks themselves are extremely devastating, did you see what a Godblast did to the invincible Hela in Ragnarok? K.O left her for a few seconds and she isn't even vulnerable to magic, the opposite, so if a Godblast of the same magnitude reaches Superman, RIP the man of steel.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Look im not denying the speed of the hammers in comics . I heard thor could spin mjolnir twice the speed of light. It is only normal to compare that to movies . But mjolnir has appeared in alot of movies in mcu. It was used in various conditions. Its best speed feats were in a dark world. But it showed it best speed when it was called but not when it was thrown. Thor has fought frost giants,dark elves,surtur and he has thrown mjolnir countless times and called it countless times. But we didn't see it reach it a speed of a speedster. After all the movies mjolnir appeared in i don't think he would or can use it any other way. Thor even threw it towards quicksilver but it was really slow when it reached quicksilver. And you said mjolnir reached thor in few seconds in Thor 1 yes. But like I said before superman went from the indian ocean to metropolis in 75s give or take a couple seconds. And in the dark world when thor went to the dark world through the portal thor called to mjolnir it went to space in few seconds but so did superman in the battle with zod and DD. All that when supes hasn't even mastered all his powers and speed .And superman who was reacting to flash wouldn't have any problem reacting to stormbreaker. And it damn well safe to say a speedster is faster than a weapon. And Thor best throw of Stormbreaker was at Thanos in IW. Do you think thor was holding back. He may be able to throw it slightly faster.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) About thor's lightning. I will say it again it is summoned by magic. It isn't exactly magic. And yes hela was invunerable. But what of Thanos and hulk. They have nothing of divine. They just have very enhanced physical abilities.
Check this.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/how-bad-would-mcu-thors-lightning-hurt-dceu-superm-1858650/
And i think superman being vulnerable to magic is misunderstood. He is just as regular person. Magic would affects him like a regular person but he has unimaginable strength,speed,powers. And its not like thor himself is magic proof. Doctor strange made that quiet clear in Ragnarok. And DCEU superman is quiet the same that way. At least he can Tank the lighning better than Hulk did. and the godblast on hela didn't actually do anything to hela except blowing her away. Thor himself said it did nothing. But that that isn't the case. The prosess in which thor summons lightning is magic but not the lightning
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Toreno
Toreno 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Chads on Comic Vine already know that Superman is simply too strong for Slowdinson,pure and simple. Yet people here ,are in different reality thinking that Thor is stomping him for no reason highballing him into the moon,and drive a unstoppable wagon of wan k.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir If you compare the flash of the DCEU which is a boy who is just barely experimenting with his powers and not even know how to master them well any would compete in speed against the lol, the quicksilver of the MCU is much faster than flash of the DCEU and as I said, you can prove the fact that the Mjolnir can't go faster than it has? If you think that this weapon is going at the speed of the force in which Thor threw it, you should investigate more of Thor, that doesn't work like that.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @RajinKabir What do you meant? I feel that in your second answer you were contradicting yourself in some parts
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Toreno So, if there are many more at Comicvine who think like you, then move to that site, so you will not have to spend bad times debating with people who do analyze the entire context of the battle :)
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Well i see what i said. And what i meant was magic would work on a regular person. A regular person or a powerful being with no divine power can be vulnarable to magic. Thanos and hulk mcu aren't divine just as superman dceu. And they tanked thor's lightning and well thanos tanked those real easy. We see thor's best lightning while useing SB at the end of IW . It did nothing to Thanos. Well like i said Superman can tank those at least better than Hulk. And you think The Flash is still mastering, bearly experimenting. Are you serious!!?? He went another dimention. The arrowverse using his powers.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/crisis-infinite-earths-ezra-miller-flash-cameo-dceu-arrowverse-canon-justice-league/amp/?espv=1
. That easily prover how much faster he is than QS. He is totally aware of his potential. He already knows about speed force. Flash is damn faster than QS. QS is as fast as Shazam but not faster than Flash. Barry is just a scared guy. Thats all. There is no debate there . Didn't you see how fast he was in the underground scene in JL. Everything around him was almost as a statue. QS hasn't shown something like that. But thats not the topic. And about mjolnir. It has appeared in about 5 movies give or take a couple. Thor used it in countless ways in countless situations. But i guess all that doesn't mean anything to you. But i also said before thor with mjolnir couldn't outfly the dragon in Ragnarok. And mjolnir is way faster when it is called. But when it is thrown it isn't as fast. It didn't get faster any where in the mcu. Look my logic for that is that when it is called it needs to be with thor. It has a reason to get faster. But when it is thrown it doesn't get faster than it is thrown. Yes maybe thor could throw it slightly faster than in movies but it won't be enough. And this is SB not mjolnir. They have different properties. Thor threw it hardest at thanos in IW. But Thanos could have dodged it if he simply walked away from its path rather than trying to blast it. And that is freakin clear. There is no denying it.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 20 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) And @Toreno , the word you used ,"Slowdinson". It actually entertained me.🤣👍
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 1 mo 1 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) I look back at this long debate and I get more convinced that Supes wins. The only thing thor can do to mortally wound Supes is hitting him with Stormbreaker. But Superman can easily dodge thor's hits because of his far superior speed.
Toreno
Toreno 3 mo 10 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Thor has been ragdolled by Kurse,stomped by Thanos hits who made him bleed. Now imagine Superman punches who are constantly creating a shockwaves, which are capable of destroying anything above him,and causing a massive destruction to the Metropolis just because he is fighting with Zod. Entire Justice League have been no match for Sups strength,and they are send flying over any hit. Remember Steppenwolf ? punched to the oblivion,annahilated by imanse strength of the kryptonian. Thor blunt force durability will be easily surpassed by Clark hits,and he will be flying and destroyed like Kurse. Superman striking strength>>>>Kurse, Superman striking strength>>>Thanos. Besides,Thor is a statue compared to Quicksilver as we seen in the Avengers Time of Ultron. Superman can blitz Slowdinson,disarm his weapon,punch him into stratosphere. In the Justice League even Wonder Woman who is bulletimer is freeze in time compared to Sups,not to mention i will not prefer to put up a big blue who can keep up with flash,against a statue with the Axe. Thor neutron star feat is wanked heavily,but you must realise that Thor take a force of "dying star" "and he would die "if it wasn't for stormbreaker" all i see here,is hilarious difference between the votes,for unknown reasons. Keep believe that statue can fight back,and keep creating a scenario for Odinson to win this.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 8 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Toreno I couldn't agree with you more. I believe half of the people voted for thor are MCU fanboys. Superman can bury mcu thor. People just can't accept that. Superman has done so much more than thor by just appearing in three movies. Thor is a god yes but than won't make him stronger or more durable than the last son of krypton. Superman fight scenes with zod,doomsday,faora,nam-ek,steppenwolf shows he is undoubtedly much more powerful than thor.
Slim_Shady
Slim_Shady 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
not voted I remember thor survive neutron star but super can't even survive nuclear attack.

And almost killed by batman


And
Can superman beat odin ?

Odin says thor is stronger than odin.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Thor didn't survive the power of the neutron star he almost died. He needed the strombreaker to heal himself.
And SIPERMAN SURVIVED THE NUCLEAR BOMB. Because you know why. If he had died the sun would only heal his cells but not bring him back to life. He could have floated for some time without dying and he did so. On the other hand thor is not stronger than odin. Odin only said that then to encourage thor. Don't take that comment literaly. And for batman defeating Superman , batman only won because superman was holding back at first. He didn't want to kill batman.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Batman used kryptonite. That not a fair fight. Batman cant win without kryptonite.
Slim_Shady
Slim_Shady 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
not voted Yes thor is powerful than odin remember that odin said that

Remember? It's not comic it's movie and many things are different

And superman have biggest weakness thor doesn't have any and
Thor is god

Superman is alien
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Slim_Shady
Slim_Shady 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
not voted Batman uses his brain
And u think superman vs batman is fair fight ? 😂😂😂😂
Batman got no superpowers

But he almost kill superman
Slim_Shady
Slim_Shady 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
not voted Can't u accept fact that already happened
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Yeah I understand and accept the fact that you are an IMPOSSIBLE FANBOY.👍
Slim_Shady
Slim_Shady 3 mo 17 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
not voted Bro I don't even like thor

But u r a fanboy I see you always vote for superman
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 17 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) I vote superman because he can win those battles. Here are some people who he can't or maybe can't win against
Dormammu,Hela(if on Asguard),Surtur(Eternal Flame),Doctor strange, Odin,Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet. I maybe a fan but i don't vote without logic
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Hela wins even if not on Asgard. Odin wins, certain. Thanos doesn't need to win with the IG.

There is no logic in saying who the person would lose to.

That is like saying, "Thor would lose to the likes of Dormammu etc." There is no proof in that sentence that proves how Thor wins.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 26 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Thanos without the IG deasn't stand a chance. He won't be able to even hit Supes just like steppenwolf. Thanos is not faster than Steppenwolf if not he is only slightly faster but that won't help him. Supes can bury thanos. He is ultra nerfed and wanked
Yatharth
Yatharth 5 mo 2 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) MCU Thor has far better feats than anyone in the dceu
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 2 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Fanboy alert☢☣☢☣
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) You admitted yourself you're a fanboy 😂😂😂
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) I was talking about @Yatharth
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) No, I'm saying that before, you called yourself a fanboy.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Where. I remember calling myself a fan not a fanboy
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) A fanboy would vote even without logic. You know like @Mxyzptlk.i hope he doesn't mind after seeing this comment
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) You said you're a fan*
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Yes Fan not FANBOY. One can be a fan of a superhero. Im sure you are a fan of some superhero. And when it comes to supes he has many fans
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 5 mo 7 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) How the hell the mcu thor has more durability than dceu superman
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 1 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Thor took attacks from infinity stones and also survived a neutron star.
Fat Thor (a weaker version of Thor) took beatings from Thanos and survived.
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 1 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Fat Thor (weaker version of Thor) was also able to hold Thanos off. Fat Thor was in an uncomfortable position. He was stuck on a rock with Thanos holding Stormbreaker right above his chest. Thanos was putting all his weight on it and Thor was able to stop Stormbreaker from reaching his chest for just enough time to survive.

Thor's durability is easily higher than Superman's.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) You overestimate mcu thanos. Thor SURVIVED the neutron star . But the neutron star would just make superman more powerful. By the way what do you mean by Thor took attacks from infinity stones. The only time he took attack was at the end of Infinity wars but he threw stormbreaker at Thanos while Thanos used the stones. So the stormbreaker blocked the attack while hitting thanos
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) I mean yeah thor can kill superman with stormbreaker but superman is too fast. Again superman is more durable. Because thor has been hurt by sharp objects. Even Iron man held his own for a while against him in Avengers. Even Ultron was able to give him a good fight. Well i believe Thor has better chances of killing superman than Thanos(mcu). Thanos is stronger than Hulk but not stronger than Captain Marvel and Thor. Wel in endgame fat thor was weaker. Thats why he had problem with fighting thanos.
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Taurus
Taurus 3 mo 21 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Dusk Thor surviving a neutron star was impressive, but...he didn't. He was pretty much dead until the magic of Stormbreaker revived him. Now don't go crazy I'm not trying to downplay anything, but it kinda annoys me especially when people say someone "tanked" something but in reality, it hurt them, or they were wearing armor or something. Also, Fat Thor's feat against Thanos in endgame. yes, he did hold off Thanos, but Thanos was smiling and it didn't really look like he was struggling, he knew Thor killed him with it and he wanted to enjoy it. Thor on the other hand, was using all his strength as he didn't want to die. Also, he got fat, but he still had muscle. Bulky people tend to bench press better, and that's pretty much what he was doing. So yes, impressive, but not as impressive as people like to put it.
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Taurus
Taurus 3 mo 21 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Rajin The star would make Superman stronger because that's how he's built, not because of durability. It's like zapping Supes and Hulk with gamma rays Supes survives it, it makes Hulk stronger. The infinity stones feat is impressive because if Stormbreaker could cut through a full powered blast and impale Thanos with ease (not to mention beheading him like shearing wheat), then Stormbreaker will do well against Supes and his powers. Thanos has better durability than Supes, and a full powered blast from the gauntlet is more powerful than his heat vision. Super breath won't work, and freeze breath could potentially backfire if Thor sends lightning traveling through the ice. I don't really see anything else that Supes can really get Thor with. Superman is faster but Stormbreaker and the bifrost would be potentially hard for Supes to dodge. In regards to your durability statements, Thor has grabbed swords by the blades and used them as clubs when fighting. Also, like Hulk, Thor heals from wounds insanely fast. So here's the thing: If you believe that Iron Man was on par with Thor in avengers, than that means you believe Hulk is vastly superior to Thor (that fight people say Thor was crushing Iron Man's suit he was so strong except Hulk was tearing through Hulkbuster like paper), as Hulk was confused and being shot by everyone and was trapped in Iron Man's cage, that Tony and Bruce built, and Bruce knows exactly how to beat Hulk. They also built Hulkbuster, which even though it had everything to take on Hulk, it needed several replacement parts and if not for them Tony would've been smashed. Bruce was also trying to hold Hulk back. Even Hulk didn't really want to fight. But going by your logic Hulk roflstomps Thor in the first Avengers, because that was the same Hulk. In my opinion, that fight was a huge disrespect to Thor, even though I still believe Hulk beats him up till his Ragnarok upgrade. And Ultron is extremely powerful then again, Hulk oneshotted Ultron prime and then gave another Ultron prime, who tried killing him with a quinjet, the god damn Loki treatment. Yes, Thanos wins against Superman that's correct. Are you joking though? Strength wise of those people, this is the order: angry Hulk > base Hulk >= Thanos > Thor > CM. What strength feats does Carol even have that contend with the Hulk? Thor has a few decent ones but still not Thanos or Hulk level. And Thanos? Struggling to life the Hulk, what like 1000 pounds? Honestly kinda pathetic. Hulk picks up a wolf that ways WAY more than himself, and struggles less. Do you mean power? Because that's this: Thor >= Thanos > Hulk = CM. And are you trying to argue for Thor, or against him? Regardless, that's not the reason Thor got whooped. 1) Hadn't fought in 5 years, combat and combat speed lowered. 2) Not weak, but overall out of shape, strength and overall speed lowered. 3) Wasn't in the same spirit as he was in IW. 4) His mind was a tad messed up. 5) Hadn't taken a hit in a while, durability/pain tolerance. 6) Hadn't used his lightning in a while. The Russos said that this Thor was the strongest Thor yet. But they also said that this Thor is not able to snap the gauntlet, but IW is, and he did way worse against Thanos with no gauntlet even though he had both hammers and the others. Inconsistent. They also said that in the comics neither Thanos nor Hulk have a healing factor (wtf). If you ask me, the Russos dug themselves into a hole, making a character seem to be more powerful than the big bad of the whole freaking franchise. Like Feige with Captain Marvel. So they weakened both of them a ton. Maybe for Worthy Cap, who knows. But also, I was thinking...Thanos didn't expect Thor to overpower him. That's why he didn't turn him into bubbles. But the second he took the helmet off he was holding back against everybody, just trying to enjoy himself with the gauntlet. He figured even if any of them started overpowering him, he could end it with a swift snap. That might be a reason why Thanos seemed so much stronger, and did way better against Thor. He knew it was real, and that they could very well beat him if he jobs. Like when they almost got the gauntlet off on Titan, and he threw a moon at them. Thoughts?
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 3 mo 21 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) He didn't tank it. He was able to keep it open. This means, he was able to survive it for a while, before he gave up. This still is a great feat.
If you eat badly for a long time, you lose most of your muscles. Maybe not with Thor, but he was still a lot weaker. He was also slower.
Taurus
Taurus 3 mo 21 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) No I totally agree with you, but people tend to milk it.
True, but if you think Thor's a god: shouldn't matter how he eats, gods don't really need to work out or eat healthy
If you think Thor's an alien: a superior race nonetheless, drank Asgardian beer which we see is way stronger and is still ripped af, doesn't watch what he eats really don't know if Midgard food can really mess him over, doesn't ever work out, but I guess since he's not fighting.
He shouldn't be that fat and weak, even if he that was his goal (why would he want to be fat, he names the place saint abbs)
He was slower but that's mainly due to the sheer amount of weight on him, lack of confidence and courage and spirit of rage, forgot how to fight a little, and was carrying bigger armor and an extra hammer, less that he was weaker.
It just confuses me how someone who ages so slow can get that fat that fast it doesn't really make sense. We know his tolerance/metabolism is insane. Heck, I bet if it was Chris Hemsworth and not Thor, he wouldn't even be able to get that fat.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Taurus i really want to know where thor held swords by the blade and used them as clubs. Well his durability would still be far higher than a normal human. Again about the bifrost ,its a medium of travel maybe it is deadly because you can't keep it open for long or it will slowly destroy the world it is opened to but that was the bifrost of asgard. It won't be the same for the stormbreaker. The stormbreaker can summon it yes but its not like thor can weaponize it .there is not much thor can do to hurt superman. Thor is really dependent on srormbreaker . In Ragnarok when thor fighting hulk and hela at the end he was the most powerful by himself. But in infinity war thay decided to give him another weapon. The thor in ragnarok was like a god. He made hulk look weak. He woupd have beaten the shi*t out of the hulk if it wasn't for grandmaster. That thor was far more powerful than hulk or thanos. That form of thor is a match for sups. I became a fan of thor after that. That thor can beat thanos. By the i don't think thanos can be compared to thor or superman. He beat thor the first time when thor was going to earth with the asguardians Thanos had his ship that fired upon them and the second time thor beat thanos. Thor is a god but thanos is not. You can make me agree that thor can defeat superman but i won't ever agree that thanos is a match for sups. Well thats not the topic of this battle. So the only things thor can use against superman is his axe,lightning and he can fight superman hand to hand. Superman can only be mortally wounded by one of them. That is if he is hit by stormbreaker. But superman is far faster than thor. No one can argue about that. Some say thor reacted to quicksilver but that is not accurate. Thor can't hit superman with the stormbreaker. For hand to hand combat superman can tank thor hit easily. Cause he fought zod, doomsday,nam ek,faora. He took their punches like very easily. Aa for the lightning it may hurt superman but they won't do any permanent damage. Superman can take those cause Thanos took them like they were nothing at the end of IW.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @Taurus thanks for correcting me about thor almost dying because of the neutron star. I forgot to change the comment
Taurus
Taurus 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Rajin in your fave Thor movie Ragnarok. He grabs a sword by the blade and uses the hilt like a hammer and trashes the Einherjar using his new Mjolnir. Yes, his durability in WAY better than an average human's, because he survives being punched by Hulk; Hulk almost killed Widow, who is more durable than the average human, just by touching her. The bifrost beheaded the fire dragon, which would've killed Thor. Thor can do more to hurt Supes than vise versa. Ways Thor can beat Supes: 1) Using Stormbreaker to cut through him like cheese 2) Using bifrost to one-shot him 3) Using lightning, which is kind of magical, both of which Supes doesn't have a great track record with 4) Using Stormbreaker to knock him out
Hulk slaps Thor until his Ragnarok upgrade. Which I'll remind you, Hulk was smashing Thor so hard he had hallucinations of his dead dad. Hulk was ready to go for more. Yes, Thor would probably have won at that point but he wouldn't certainly not stomp. Grandmaster only buzzed Thor because 1) Thor was making his champ look bad 2) Thor might've beaten him 3) He didn't want to risk it as Hulk was literately holding the Sakaar economy together
People forget something: Thor only goes full lightning when he's been charged up by loss and anger, similar to the Hulk. That's why we see Hulk doing WAY better against Thanos than Thor, who gets one-shotted. Then, when he's pissed and brings a weapon that's meant to kill Thanos with the IG, he does amazing against him. If Hulk catches Stormbreaker, even if he's not taught how to use it properly he'd chop most of the MCU in half like an uncooked noodle. Thanos is a Titan, Thor is an alien just like him. You said Thor would do better against Supes than Thanos, so how the hell does Supes beat Thanos? The only reason Thanos could tank Thor's lightning so well was because he had the infinity gauntlet. Contrary to popular belief, if you have one of the most powerful things in the universe in your hand, there is at least some passive effects. Supes is vulnerable to people like Shazam, aka magical lightning beings.
Taurus
Taurus 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Rajin Np
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 17 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Well i watched the scene where thor was using the sword as a club. That does not prove his durability is higher than supes. He is a god and a well trained one at that. Surely he can grab a sword by the blade without hurting himself. But im not saying that his durability is that bad that he can just cut himself by grabbing a sword by the blade. For stormbreaker or his lightning they may need to hit superman to hurt him. Superman greatest feat against thor is his far superior speed. He can mover faster than lighting. You can see that in the fight between him and flash. People say that supes reacted to flash. But in that scene it was flash who bearly keeping up with sups. Well flash was a scared guy and he wasn't at is best. But so wasn't superman. As for weakness to magic. Thor is equelly weak to magic like supes. In ragnarok doc strange showed us that. One could use magic to hurt thor. Again ther is the bifrost. You can compare it to doctor stranges magic gateways they can cut people in half. I do believe it would go same for superman. But there is his speed again. The bifrost may be a very fast medium of travel but it isn't that fast when it is being opened and if thor opens it he would be sucked into it. Well obviously he won't die but he will end up on an othe planet or someplace. We don't yet know how the stormbreaker bifrost works. So it's unclear.
But honestly the main reason why i don't think thor is winning is because superman has done so much more on screen than thor allready. You can compare three of their best battles
Thor's battles
Thor vs Hulk
Last battle pf ragnarok
Ending of IW
Superman's battles
Superman vs zod
Superman vs Doomsday
Superman vs JL
After seeing these battles i don't really think thor can beat supes. Thor is a god yes but i think superman is more godly than thor. Well in ways of strength and speed and other abilities
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ThomasMHxDeaf
ThomasMHxDeaf 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Rajin is all right. I vote Superman wins. I know Superman absorb the sun if increase strength and speed. Thor's Mjölnir hitting superman hurt, then Superman try dodge without blocking. This right.
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SonyB
SonyB 5 mo 8 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Supes blitz
Va
ValdimirPaler 5 mo 8 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) I was unsure about this fight at first. the stats look a bit weird to me cause superman is stronger, faster, and more durable if you use the superman from Man of Steel before the nerf but thor is a better fighter and then I considered his lightning. it's magic. superman is weak to magic. thus thor with Stormbreaker in his prime would have the advantage because of his magic power, lethality (both have incredible durability but the Stormbreaker is basically a god-killing weapon), and combat skill.
KrispyKreme12
KrispyKreme12 5 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) This Thor is a better fighter and has more durability than Sups, but Superman is better in every other aspect, speed,strength, and has even smarter
Beastmaster
Beastmaster 6 mo 6 h 57 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Superman is killed by Mjolnir and Stormbreaker
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Toreno
Toreno 5 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) How Thor is even able to touch Superman ? he is a statue compared to him,every punch coming from supes is creating a shockwaves,look how steppenwolf has been ragdolled and stomped. Thor can fight only if supes have good mood and it's holding back,but if he cross the line he will be knock out with the punches and blitzed
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booyah
booyah 6 mo 5 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) How is thor winning?
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Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 6 mo 5 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Mcu Fanboy
Yatharth
Yatharth 5 mo 2 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Because he's stronger I guess 🤷‍♂️
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 4 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) The way I see it, Thor is stronger.
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 3 mo 3 h 18 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) @Mxyzptlk Dromedary saying to a Camel "humpback" is like the same thing you just did.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 6 mo 5 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) I'm currently a little unsure about this.
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AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 6 mo 5 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) Same.
Ssaroj123
Ssaroj123 6 mo 6 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Superman win
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 9 mo 8 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Superman is more stronger,more durable, many many times faster wtf how thor wins
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Thor fanboy
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 1 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) DCEU Superman = American hero played by an American actor; makes perfect sense.
MCU Thor = Norse hero played by an Australian actor; Norse ≠ Australian ???
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TheOne2001
TheOne2001 1 y 1 mo 25 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) Literally means nothing to the fight.😝😝
tokker
tokker 7 mo 30 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Well problem solved let's get a norse demigod to play him than lol dumass
Ak
Akash02 3 mo 1 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) the guy who played Superman, Henry Cavill is British
Michealdem17
Michealdem17 2 mo 28 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Yes Henry cavill is British
Oblivion
Oblivion 1 y 1 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) speedblitz
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 1 y 1 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) He can try.
Oblivion
Oblivion 1 y 1 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) superman is stronger and faster
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 1 y 1 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) Thor's just as fast and strong as Superman.
Oblivion
Oblivion 1 y 1 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) lmao at this
Oblivion
Oblivion 1 y 1 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) supes was equal with flash
FLX
FLX 1 y 1 mo 29 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Superman is given the ability to fly, has extraordinary strength and is almost perfect, & Superman also has eyes that can fire hot lasers, can see from the largest size to microscopic or smallest size, can function as x-rays and radio waves
-Superman can fly at supersonic speeds (more than 2000 miles per second). While in space, it is capable of moving at super luminal speeds (faster than light).
- Invulnerable (Superman's body is immune to various attacks / He has been shown to be able to withstand nuclear missile attacks, approaching the Sun's Earth without getting hurt, holding back the effects of star explosions and exploding 50 supernovas even after the previous red Sun weakened)
-Superman is able to produce heat rays from his eyes. It can make this ray invisible and reduce its scale to microscopic. His heat vision is able to burn and melt whatever he wants.
- Superman's body is able to absorb energy from sunlight. His body continually absorbs and saves which gives him various super powers, such as extraordinary physical strength, super five senses, and the ability to ward off gravity.
- Extraordinary Physical Strength
Superman is able to lift the heaviest burden that humans cannot imagine. The maximum load that is able to be lifted is not known until now, indicating that the alien from Krypton is almost able to lift objects of any weight (even known to be able to lift loads weighing 1 billion tons).
-Combination (strength, speed, endurance that won't run out, as long as there is still sun) , he will definitely win the fight against THOR!!
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Slim_Shady
Slim_Shady 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
not voted You forget the weakness 😂😂😂
Superman almost killed by batman
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) @SLIM_SHADY if want to debate at least use valid logic
Kluba577
Kluba577 1 y 3 mo 17 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Neutron star and Nuke are outliers to me. Superman is consistently much competent and stronger. One punch and his menu will be roasted asgardian
Username5290
Username5290 1 y 3 mo 24 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Superman seems to be more durable. Not saying Thor is not, but Superman can take more plus he is way faster in combat speed and just speed equivalent to the flash. All Thor has is lightning powers. Which are greater than Superman's overall power.
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Xx
XxRatiatingGore10xX 1 y 3 mo 7 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) Thor is more durable.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 2 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Yes, Thor is more durable(in your dreams).
windshadow
windshadow 1 y 4 mo 22 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) I still don't know why people are saying Thor is overwanked. This comment section proves otherwise...
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 2 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Lol
SexyThanos
SexyThanos 1 y 5 mo 16 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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not voted How Thor can tag him ? Thor has **** blunt force resistance so gets K.oed by several punches
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Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 21 d
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Superman (DCEU) Are you @Kluba's alt?
Kluba577
Kluba577 1 y 6 mo 6 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Kal. Better fighter and better stats
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cw6334
cw6334 1 y 6 mo 6 d
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Thor (MCU) I don't see where you think he has better stats, but if we are talking about Stormbreaker Thor? It isn't even close dude.
DeanDinosaur6
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Thor (MCU) How is he a better fighter?
Da
Dan_Tha_Man 1 y 6 mo 7 d
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Thor (MCU) Superman is far faster than Thor, and has traveled from the U.S to Africa in seconds. Superman has also shifted a tectonic plate, has withstood the entire gravitational pull of Krypton, and has defeated Steppenwolf with ease. Superman Speedblitzes, because Thor hasn't fought someone as quick as Superman.
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Bane333
Bane333 1 y 6 mo 7 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) But you voted Thor????
Beastmaster
Beastmaster 6 mo 6 h 56 m
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Thor (MCU) Visible confusion
Bane333
Bane333 1 y 7 mo 4 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Oh ok thanks for the information mr.lion
Bane333
Bane333 1 y 7 mo 4 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Sups got strength Thor has combat sups is more durable proved in the dc and marvel crossover superman v hulk hulk punch him in the face as hard as he could and it didn't even budge him and Superman hit him one time and hulk was out Thor got the power side but sups got the intelligence. I'm going with sups on this one yet again this is dceu and mcu but still I think sups got this one.
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TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 y 7 mo 4 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) 1. This is the MCU

2. The crossovers were uncanon.

3. The writers were prepared to create two separate endings as Hulk knocked Superman out cold, the winners were decided on a vote based system by the fans and Superman won because he was more popular.

4. Thor has lived for thousands of years, he is far more intelligent than Superman.
TheOmniDoctor
TheOmniDoctor 1 y 7 mo 15 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Oh and this... https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/bloodlusted-neutron-star-thor-runs-the-superman-ga-1962429/
There
is a percentage of people saying Thor actually clears this gauntlet.
TheOmniDoctor
TheOmniDoctor 1 y 7 mo 15 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Still Superman due to speed, strength and versatility. MCU Thor has been overwanked to the point where people are saying that he would beat New 52 and Pre-Crisis Superman.

EDIT: Oh wait, I forgot that Thor no-sold more than 999,999,999,999 wankillion joules of energy from a neutron star which means he's invincible... and Stormbreaker overpowered a complete infinity gauntlet which makes him multiversal level.
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Jongensoden
Jongensoden 1 y 7 mo 15 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) they are equal in strength
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 y 7 mo 15 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) I'd like to see where anyone has ever said MCU Thor can defeat Pre-Crisis Superman, because I seriously doubt that anyone would say that. Also, Thor has a massive strength advantage over Superman at this point.
TheOmniDoctor
TheOmniDoctor 1 y 7 mo 15 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Well if we were to count Superman's tectonic plate feat from BvS...
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 1 y 8 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) Is Superman in the dceu weak to magic?
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Yolohan
Yolohan 1 y 8 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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not voted Probably yes, but we don't know that yet.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 3 mo 18 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
Superman (DCEU) Doesn't matter. Mcu thor can be defeated by magic too. See thor ragnarok where doc strange made clear of that
ArthurCurry89
ArthurCurry89 1 y 8 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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not voted IW Thor can warp reality or probability, stop time, with one hand smash 616 infinity gauntlet, Kamehameha stronger than Super sayan god Goku, immune to all magic. Can tank 999 wankilion of neutron stars, soloed Foxverse, Arrowverse, MCU, DCEU, himself, logic, Screewattack Superman, Kevin Feige, Chris Hemsworth, VS Battle Wiki, Comicvine, Youtube, Dragon Ball Z, Narutoverse simultaneously and won. Humiliated Wally West from comics in speed. One shoted pre crisis superman. ***** slapped 616 Living Tribunal, without even trying one shoted gazilion of galaxies at once.

But his weakness is being no matter what far inferior to DCEU Superman yesterday, today, tomorrow for enternity
ArthurCurry89
ArthurCurry89 1 y 8 mo 27 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Doc_Strange98 1 y 11 mo 11 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) Thor stomps
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 10 mo 11 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Thor (MCU) Stars are bigger than planets.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 10 mo 10 d
Superman (DCEU) vs Thor (MCU)
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Superman (DCEU) @Nemian, @Holy: if you're trying to imply Thor in the MCU is Neutron Star level then no, he merely survived the HEAT of that star and even then it nearly killed him. If you want to use the neutron star argument then Thor's only neutron stsr level in terms of his resistance to heat but that means to his blunt force resistance.

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