SpectrevsRune King Thor

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HolyJoe
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Spectre @EmptyHand & @LuciferMorningstar You guys didn't provide a single reason for why RKT would beat the Spectre. All you did was significantly high-ball his feats of breaking the cycle of Ragnarok and putting fear into TWSAIS. You have even stated that RKT never beat them.


Then you both went off a tangent trying to scale TWSAIS to some incarnation of Multi-Eternity and brought so many other characters into it throughout the rest of the debate. The things that I've listed the Spectre doing such as briefly contending with Michael sounds a lot more impressive than anything else this version of Thor has done. With all the downvotes you guys got for your comments and all the people that still vote for Spectre, it's really no wonder why you both didn't "slap" as you claim you did.
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Michealdem17
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Spectre It's a good point cause compare their feats rkt don't even come close to spectre
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 29 d
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Rune King Thor Who wins?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 23 d
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Spectre An unnecessary comment
Lapis_Lazuli
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Spectre Trolololol
Michealdem17
Michealdem17 1 mo 29 d
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Spectre Spectre stomps
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 29 d
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Rune King Thor Prove it.
Michealdem17
Michealdem17 1 mo 29 d
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Spectre Spectre is being who can be compared with LT his feats are far more greater than rune king thor his attack potency is above multiversal scale it was mentioned in comic that if presence allow him he can destroy entire creation his reality wraping power is at different level as he once created a nexus which can forge all realities and he can control any magic possibly rune magic. TWSAIS were celestial not beyonders
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 30 d
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Rune King Thor RKT history: The most underrated character on SHDB
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Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 29 d
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Spectre LMAO Not even close
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 29 d
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Rune King Thor RKT still underrated
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 27 d
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Spectre Not true
RajinKabir
Spectre vs Rune King Thor
Spectre I think he is overrated
Dusk_Pikachu
Spectre vs Rune King Thor
Spectre *Says the person who asks for links for his feats*
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 22 d
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Spectre All I see is people trying to big up RKT as much as possible and then those same people getting upset when he doesn't win every single battle he has.
Mr_Incognito
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Spectre @Tyrannus It's about time we agree on something :)
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 22 d
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Spectre We've agreed on some others too its just that when we're on the same side there's nothing to debate.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 22 d
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Spectre These people didn't even provide feats for RKT...
Slim_Shady
Slim_Shady 2 mo 14 d
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not voted Not even close
Lapis_Lazuli
Lapis_Lazuli 2 mo 18 d
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Spectre Spectre wins but this is not a stomps
Oblivion
Oblivion 2 mo 20 d
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Spectre İs rkt even low multiversal or universal+?
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MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 1 mo 30 d
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Rune King Thor Is more thing than that
BeastPrime
Spectre vs Rune King Thor
Rune King Thor People who think RKT is universal they actually didn't know him well
RajinKabir
Spectre vs Rune King Thor
Spectre Quiet agreed with @Oblivion
Oblivion
Oblivion 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre Even allen or hal as spectre blinks let alone the angel one.
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre His name's Asmodel.
Oblivion
Oblivion 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre Raguel actually,asmodel is the leader of an angel host
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre I thought his name was Aztar
Oblivion
Oblivion 2 mo 20 d
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Spectre People debating about this lol literal bruh moment.
LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor RKT claps
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre This is so asinine.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor Sure sure sure read my paragraph on RKT
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre No! We're not doing this @Empty.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor Then you're in denial :)
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre And what do you think your opinion was before all that?

The Spectre is the Presence's divine fully transcendent embodied thought who is beyond all of time and has the Logoz in him, which is the same power that formed a new totality and brought all of creation to existence, making creation dependent on the Logoz in order to exist.

The Spectre briefly clashed with Michael, made a nexus, became one with the Void, killed the Chaos and Order Lords, broke the Source Wall and first restored it.

Do you honestly think this version of Thor can actually beat a supreme being's embodiment that contains LIMITLESS POWER and has EVERY HOST AS PART OF HIS CONSCOIUSNESS?
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre @Holy_Joe Has reaffirmed my belief in the Spectre
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor > The Spectre is the Presence's divine fully transcendent embodied thought
Nice job using presence backed spectre feats

> who is beyond all of time and has the Logoz in him
Rune king thor one shot the concept of time, and this isn't logoz spectre lmao

> which is the same power that formed a new totality and brought all of creation to existence
You'd be implying rune king thor isn't layers beyond creation which is stupid, Creation exists within multi eternity whos levels below RKT as I already explained

> making creation dependent on the Logoz in order to exist
Yeah like I said cause rune king thor is totally below creation

> The Spectre briefly clashed with Michael
Wow you're gonna go that far as to go as out of context as possible? Michael already not holding back destroyed unbound spectre with 1 shot

imagine thinking Michael didn't hold back against spectre or cuck him down

> made a nexus
If you're gonna go that far, the nexus of all realities is FAR lower than even the superflow, which is levels below RKT as I ALREADY explained

> became one with the Void
WHY ARE YOU BRINGING UP OVERSOUL SPECTRE, WHO IS SO MUCH ABOVE EVERYTHING IN THIS PATHETIC DISCUSSION, oversoul spectre doesn't apply to this spectre so hows about you STOP using feats for AMPED versions OF THE CHARACTER like what you did for silver surfer vs superman (which you still need to reply on yet I've debunked your feats)

> killed the Chaos and Order Lords
As if the lords of chaos and order scale above Outside tier or even superflow tier

> broke the Source Wall and first restored it.
omg now you're bringing up SOURCE AMPED spectre, WHO said THIS spectre HAs the power of the SOURCE

> Do you honestly expect Rune King Thor to actually beat a supreme being's embodiment that contains LIMITLESS POWER

Yeah mention all of rune king thors limits rn, explain what limitations he has, because that argument is trash ngl because he's nothing to the supreme being

> and has EVERY HOST AS PART OF HIS CONSCIOUSNESS?
Why do his hosts being within his conscious matter at all?
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre @Empty Ok, Michael would bend RKT over if they fought. Yes, he's one of the sons of yahweh. That doesn't help your case.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor @MrIncognito I never denied that, read my RKT scaling paragraph on why he's powerful, but he is trying to get spectre to Michael demiurgos tier which is generally annoying so I had to debunk it
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre @EmptyHand D'you always copy people just to be any more intelligent, or are you always this funny? Seriously, knock it the f*ck off; it's so unoriginal.

I never said anything like "Rune King Thor isn't layers beyond creation". I haven't even decided whether or not that was true.

What does Silver Surfer vs Superman have anything to do with what I just said? Amped versions? I don't even recall using any scans of the Surfer being amped. I've provided a list of abilities that he had and one scan you provided wasn't even related to Post-Crisis Superman, like that "breaking the bonds of infinity" thing. Half of your links were also broken and that "black hole" feat was debunked. That entire Superman: Where Is Thy Sting comic was just a dream and Superman needed protection to survive the Sun Of All Things after he admitted it would kill him. On top of all that, the Death God stated it wasn't anything except a hallucination. Soulfire Darkseid said Superman was just a "90-lb wimp" compared to Orion and him.

Again, I never said anything like "Lords of Chaos and Order scale above Outside tier or even superflow tier". I know that their explosions created multiple universes and their constant battle threatens several realities, however.


Could you please stop posting memes? It's really f***ing annoying right now! Once again, I never said anything about Rune King Thor having any limits, but I'm sure you could educate us all on that since you apparently know more about him than anyone else.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor Im copying to say what i am addressing, who said I was being funny? exactly?

Well make your conclusions when I gave you my paragraph

I'm bringing it up because you've brought up amped versions of spectre 3 times in this discussion, and in that debate, you brought up how Silver surfer "one-shot cosmic ghost rider", yet that was the fallen one silver surfer with Mjolnir and Dark matter, so I am bringing that up for that, and that death god brings up how it was never a dream and it all actually happened, when he needed protection from the sun he was in a DYING state so idfk what your point with that is, and superman is saying that for himself, soulfire darkseid is nothing

Okay well RKT is waaaay beyond superflow tier so that's why i brought it up

Okay, First off rune king thor scales to TWSAIS, he could put fear into them, break their cycle etc, Now lets get onto TWSAIS scaling Multi eternity embodies infinite levels of a boundless multiverse, he encompasses the superflow which contains the living tribunal's true form, he is only visible from the outside which transcends all levels of reality is beyond the neutral zone which is beyond the superflow the neutral zone is also within multi eternity and is where the most elderly concepts reside in, the outside is beyond the far shore which transcends the neutral zone, the outside is also outside of eternities influence, Oblivion is beyond all that and transcends the outside, TWSAIS didn't give a sh*t about multi eternity collapsing and are the gods of oblivion, they exist in oblivion, they will bring cosmic oblivion, they feed off of the concept of stories etc
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre No, you're not. You always do this when we debate @Empty and it's just annoying.

The Death God said "Assume that I'm some...delusion?" and "Where that which hides in our dreams-- takes form?" Does that not give it away that it actually was a dream or a hallucination like the Superman Homepage says it is? He didn't even say it actually happened.

WTF? That green-texted scan didn't even say TWAIS are gods of oblivion and it didn't include anything about Multi-Eternity. When they said stories, they meant "in Ragnarök after Ragnarök ", not "in reality after reality". The realm of Asgard existed in an endless cycle of death and rebirth. They lived off the energy released by Ragnarök and caused the cycle to continue.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor When i copy someones quote down, it means that I am responding to that if I put the > behind it, you didn't know that? when so many do that? wow nice

Death states that dream and reality take form and that they've been walking in a true world where it all happened, so your points don't matter and that superman homepage states It was a hallucination whereas in the story he states that the HALLUCINATION is taking form and everything is happening, is what that shows

The green texted scan states the multiverse (which is multi eternity) is collapsing, and they exist in oblivion which is outside of ME by layers as I've shown, they deadass state that loki is saving the stories from the gods from oblivion, where as those stories he is saving from TWSAIS
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HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre So, it doesn't bother you if I do it? Okay then.

>whereas in the story he states that the HALLUCINATION
So you admit that it was a hallucination? Simply saying that it was taking form and everything was happening doesn't exactly mean it was real in those terms. I mean I could be hallucinating and say everything is happening but everyone else wouldn't see it.

>The green texted scan states the multiverse (which is multi eternity) is collapsing.
Okay, there's more than one multiverse in Marvel so it's very unlikely that one was Multi-Eternity at that time. The comic doesn't even include Multi-Eternity.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor >So, it doesn't bother you if I do it? Okay then
Idgas if you do it, since its a way of showing what you're addressing better

> So you admit that it was a hallucination?
No I admit that the story was a hallucination taking true form as he stated, everything that happened in that story actually happened

> I mean I could be hallucinating and say everything is happening but everyone else wouldn't see it.
Nothing indicates that's what it meant, feats from where is thy sting were real feats and I don't understand why you keep denying

> Okay, there's more than one multiverse in Marvel
Not really when they are met outside the multiverse in oblivion which transcends the outside which is the only place where multi eternity is visual so actually no, it was multi eternity
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 21 d
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Spectre >Not really when they are met outside the multiverse in oblivion.

Well, that was a sad excuse and a bad attempt at completing denying the scan that I just gave you. Literally, none of the entire comic that you got your scans of Loki from either mentions or provides anything about Multi-Eternity, so I don't see the reason to be making assumptions about M-E being the multiverse in that story. And that scan you provided wasn't even Multi-Eternity.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 21 d
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Rune King Thor > Well, that was a sad excuse and a bad attempt at completing denying the scan that I just gave you
SaD eXcUsE, what's the excuse, there are infinite levels of the multiverse and multi eternity encompasses them all, and ME exists within the outside, which is below oblivion which is where TWSAIS exists in, so the one ignoring almost everything the other person is saying here is actually you

> none of the entire comic that you got your scans of Loki from either mentions or provides anything about Multi-Eternity
The "multiverse" from the highest level IS multi eternity, and the highest level of the multiverse is within the outside. Jesus stop making me repeat myself

>so I don't see the reason to be making assumptions about M-E being the multiverse in that story.
I gave you reasons as to why the multiverse would refer to the totality of the multiverse in the outside

if that isn't good enough for you, look at this

^The OMNIVERSE is multi eternity and even if he dies stories will still exist, and TWSAIS feast on stories

> And that scan you provided wasn't even Multi-Eternity
So ultimate 8th incarnation eternity here isn't multi eternity?

Lmao, I'm so done, if anyone making excuses its you
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 20 d
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Spectre @Empty
>Wow you're gonna go that far as to go as out of context as possible? Michael already not holding back destroyed unbound spectre with 1 shot. imagine thinking Michael didn't hold back against spectre or cuck him down
So what if Spectre got cucked by Demiurgous? At least the Spectre wasn't the one getting disintegrated or sealed like Eternity was.

>SaD eXcUsE, what's the excuse, there are infinite levels of the multiverse and multi eternity encompasses them all, and ME exists within the outside, which is below oblivion which is where TWSAIS exists in, so the one ignoring almost everything the other person is saying here is actually you The "multiverse" from the highest level IS multi eternity, and the highest level of the multiverse is within the outside. Jesus stop making me repeat myself
What do you just not get about there being more than one multiverse? Why do you think Eternity was born as the "Eighth Multiverse" and is the embodiment of the sixth Multiverse alongside Infinity? You sure I'm the one doing the ignoring here?

>if that isn't good enough for you, look at this The OMNIVERSE is multi eternity and even if he dies stories will still exist, and TWSAIS feast on stories
I'm sorry, and that scan is supposed to prove what exactly? An Omniverse is ALL of fiction and EVERY reality combined, including those published by all other companies, such as DC Comics, Image, Dark Horse, Valiant, and Vertigo.

>So ultimate 8th incarnation eternity here isn't multi eternity?
That was Eternity in a weakened state caused by his most recent rebirth. It was bound in chains by The First Firmament and destroyed from the inside out by the Aspirants. It took the combined assistance of the past incarnations of the Multiverse, the Ultimates, the Eternity Watch, the Tiger God, the Queen of Nevers, and the Fifth Host of Celestials in order to defeat the First Firmament.

If you're "so done", then you haven't convinced me of anything right now, and this debate is over.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 20 d
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Rune King Thor >So what if Spectre got cucked by Demiurgous? At least the Spectre wasn't the one getting disintegrated or sealed like Eternity was.
Nice Job bringing some more outta context bs like what you always do, I'm a little tired of it, that was base eternity who encompasses 1 universe, and even then dormammu had prep everytime he fought eternity, ME admitted that dormy without preparation is nothing more than a flickering thought


>What do you just not get about there being more than one multiverse? Why do you think Eternity was born as the "Eighth Multiverse" and is the embodiment of the sixth Multiverse alongside Infinity? You sure I'm the one doing the ignoring here?
So you don't know what the "8th multiverse" is at all i see, its the 8th OMNIVERSE aka the cosmology, the seventh cosmos differs from the 8th, when the 7th cosmos became the 8th, the hierarchy was becoming a new one, eternity became supreme over LT and the shaper of worlds died

It's not "8th multiverse" as in infinite of them, it means that that's the current cosmos, there's the 9th cosmos which Immortal hulk destroyed


I am pretty sure you don't know marvel's cosmology at all, since you don't know how each cosmos works, the first one was TFF, the 8th one is ME



>I'm sorry, and that scan is supposed to prove what exactly? An Omniverse is ALL of fiction and EVERY reality combined, including those published by all other companies, such as DC Comics, Image, Dark Horse, Valiant, and Vertigo.
Ahh sh*t here comes one of the worst arguments I've ever seen, the OMNIVERSE has different meanings, that is only one of them, if you read the scan loki clearly states that if the omniverse (which refers to the cosmos as shown here) the concept of stories will still exist, meaning if multi eternity who embodies the 8th cosmos would've died stories would still exist and guess what, TWSAIS feast on stories

>If you're "so done", then you haven't convinced me of anything right now, and this debate is over.
By "I'm so done" Is a way of me saying I'm super surprised you're saying that isn't multi eternity, you are absolutely the one who hasn't read ultimate since it was VERY clearly ME,

^the multiverse within the void (outside)

^^^it is the TRUE eternity whomst each universes eternity is just one small facet, is the TRUE eternity not multi eternity to you?

^^^only visible from the outside and is a universe to universes
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 20 d
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Rune King Thor if you think "infinite multiverses" means infinite cosmos' then you're wrong
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 20 d
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Spectre Back again? You just won't give up, will you? Seriously, nothing you're providing is convincing me.

>So you don't know what the "8th multiverse" is at all I see, its the 8th OMNIVERSE aka the cosmology, the seventh cosmos differs from the 8th, when the 7th cosmos became the 8th, the hierarchy was becoming a new one, eternity became supreme over LT and the shaper of worlds died
I've dead-ass shown that scan which clearly said "multiverses".



Do you not even see the word "multiverses" in these scans you provided?

>Nice Job bringing some more outta context bs like what you always do, I'm a little tired of it, that was base eternity who encompasses 1 universe, and even then Dormammu had prep every time he fought eternity, ME admitted that dormy without preparation is nothing more than a flickering thought
You mean like that Superman holding the black hole feat that you provided? Yeah, really ironic and hypocritical coming from you.

>I am pretty sure you don't know marvel's cosmology at all, since you don't know how each cosmos works, the first one was TFF, the 8th one is ME.
LOL! What is with all this assuming? You think I'm blind or something like that? Of course, I knew that TFF was the first one. Why do you think that TFF is in the left there?

>if you think "infinite multiverses" means infinite cosmos' then you're wrong
There you go assuming again. I've said absolutely nothing about "cosmos". You, on the other hand, are saying sh*t like " its the 8th OMNIVERSE aka the cosmology, the seventh cosmos differs from the 8th, when the 7th cosmos became the 8th, the hierarchy was becoming a new one, eternity became supreme over LT and the shaper of worlds died". If anyone thinks that it's probably you.
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LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor @Holy Joe
Michael didn't even use the Demiurgos on Spectre and one shotted him.
That's Spectre Logoz who said he couldn't have created a totality without it.
That "Nexus" is just doorways Spectre LOGOZ created inbetween realities as your own scan says so.
Your Elaine, Michael and Lucifer scan literally refers to Yahweh his creation, not Spectre his, The creation is even said bound by his name and his word, unlike Lucifer his. It is talking about creation dying in this context, good one tho how about reading the story.
Good one again, your next scan REFERS TO YAHWEH AND HIS WORD CREATING DC CREATION NOT SPECTRE OR HIS LOGOZ USAGE. It is literally talking about how creation started from the darkness, it is yahweh not spectre. Read your own scan for dears sake.
Hal Jordan didn't even stay Spectre with logoz btw, he abandoned the job.
And only did it hugely due to Logoz.
Others are source amped as Empty already pointed out, and recreating the Source wall ain't gonna beat RKT.

**WTF? That green-texted scan didn't even say TWAIS are gods of oblivion and it didn't include anything about Multi-Eternity. When they said stories, they meant "in Ragnarök after Ragnarök ", not "in reality after reality". The realm of Asgard existed in an endless cycle of death and rebirth. They lived off the energy released by Ragnarök and caused the cycle to continue.**

It literally shows them existing in Nothingness/Outside which Oblivion is, calls them the Gods that exist within Oblivion and how they will bring Oblivion to the gods. They feast on the stories of gods which includes Chaos War btw, which included multi eternity.
Literally Loki says Surfer is here somewhere, which we know Surfer was in the place that couldn't be, a realm within The Outside/Oblivion, which shows even TWSAIS residing from Oblivion. The Ragnarok cycle is the god of stories in general, filled with all of fate and creation and time, which Rune King Thor one shotted btw (given all the scans to dark wing as I told you).

The scan literally says Omniverse, which is Multi Eternity, he has all multiverses within him, it is all below the Nexus, which is below the white hot room, which is below the superflow, which is below Overspace, which is below exospace, which is below Neutral Zone, which is below Far shore. That all is within Multi Eternity, so we have numerous realms above the multiverses within Multi Eternity. Omniverse never means all of fiction, what are you even saying? Omniverse just means all of creation, or multi eternity in this case as Ewing has said. Omniverse means everything. And he is within the Outside.

Multiverse in Multi Eternity his case literally just means everything, all of creation, how hard is that to grasp? Multi Eternity is the 8th cosmos, while having realms within him beyond the multiverse, and LITERALLY WE SEE THE PREVIOUS INCARNATIONS MULTI ETERNITIES WITHIN THE 8TH COSMOS MULTI ETERNITY BECAUSE ETERNITY JUST GREW BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN ALL OF THOSE. Each incarnation makes Multi Eternity stronger which is stated.
We literally see all the previous ones with infinity within far shore, within current eternity. So yes, saying multiverse does not always refer to multi eternity unless IN A LARGER ALL OF CREATION CONTEXT.
The multiverse can just refer to the multiverse below superflow, or to Multi eternity DEPENDING ON CONTEXT AND WHAT WE SEE.

DORMAMMU LITERALLY FACED A M-BODY and even then he got one shotted, did you finish the story? Literally he attacked the substance within Eternity M-Body, to then get one shotted and called fodder. Need the scans of that???

Also you are heavily ignoring how Multi Eternity and first firmament were weak as hell, and Multi Eternity then grew stronger and stronger, surpassing each previous incarnations BY FAR, as those were only the literal multiverse, meanwhile multi eternity became beyond and actually inhales many realms beyond the multiverse, everything I said can be proven so I dare you to ask me for scans.
HolyJoe
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Spectre >DORMAMMU LITERALLY FACED A M-BODY and even then he got one shotted, did you finish the story? Literally he attacked the substance within Eternity M-Body, to then get one shotted and called fodder. Need the scans of that???
Yeah, and then he absorbed Multi-Eternity's power and threatened to destroy the entire multiverse.

>Multiverse in Multi Eternity his case literally just means everything, all of creation, how hard is that to grasp? Multi Eternity is the 8th cosmos, while having realms within him beyond the multiverse, and LITERALLY WE SEE THE PREVIOUS INCARNATIONS MULTI ETERNITIES WITHIN THE 8TH COSMOS MULTI ETERNITY BECAUSE ETERNITY JUST GREW BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN ALL OF THOSE. Each incarnation makes Multi Eternity stronger which is stated.
We literally see all the previous ones with infinity within far shore, within current eternity. So yes, saying multiverse does not always refer to multi eternity unless IN A LARGER ALL OF CREATION CONTEXT.
The multiverse can just refer to the multiverse below superflow, or to Multi eternity DEPENDING ON CONTEXT AND WHAT WE SEE.
The scan literally says Omniverse, which is Multi Eternity, he has all multiverses within him, it is all below the Nexus, which is below the white hot room, which is below the superflow, which is below Overspace, which is below exospace, which is below Neutral Zone, which is below Far shore. That all is within Multi Eternity, so we have numerous realms above the multiverses within Multi Eternity. Omniverse never means all of fiction, what are you even saying? Omniverse just means all of creation, or multi eternity in this case as Ewing has said. Omniverse means everything. And he is within the Outside.
Oh yeah? Well how come he's the "8th OMNIVERSE" like @Empty said? What about all the other omniverses in Marvel? Have you even bothered to look up the definition of "Omniverse"?
LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor @HolyJoe
It says before all the previous incarnations, multiverses were existing yes?
It's literally just explained to you that each incarnation gets STRONGER AND BIGGER. Multi Eternity is referred as the multiverse/8th cosmos/Omniverse as he is EVERYTHING NOW, he is NOW REALMS BEYOND THE MULTIVERSE, which he previously was not. Now he has realms far beyond the multiverse within him, while still referred to as the 8th MULTIVERSE or Omniverse occasionally. So you dont understand current multi eternity then, and that in his context multiverse means beyond, but just referring to everything. In DC, the DC multiverse also refers to realms beyond the multiverse, it refers to the whole Map. Just an example of when multiverse means beyond as it depends on context.
LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor @HolyJoe just so you know, idc what empty said, he knows who is way more knowledgeable between us.
Now that we got that out of the way, lets do this.

THAT IS DORMAMMU WITH PREP,and literally Dormammu in your own scan says its just a M-Body of eternity for the multiverse, again read your 2nd scan. And this is just the 7th incarnation, not even the 8th in Ultimates.

"Oh yeah? Well how come he's the "8th OMNIVERSE" like @Empty said? What about all the other omniverses in Marvel? Have you even bothered to look up the definition of Omniverse?"

He is the 8th cosmos/incarnation idc what empty says. Its the only Omniverse, there is no previous before that. And it doesnt even address my point. I looked up Omniverse and idc about it, writers literally have used Omniverse before in different context. For Multi Eternity it means he is everything, all of creation and more. Marvel doesnt have others, what are you saying.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 20 d
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Rune King Thor > Back again? You just won't give up, will you? Seriously, nothing you're providing is convincing me.
That shows you're in denial and why should i give up when you've ignored everything i said and haven't proven 1 thing in the whole discussion

>I've dead-ass shown that scan which clearly said "multiverses". Do you not even see the word "multiverses" in these scans you provided?
You have no idea what you're talking about, there are infinite levels of the multiverse and ME embodies them all


>You mean like that Superman holding the black hole feat that you provided? Yeah, really ironic and hypocritical coming from you
Whats the context to that? you provide outta context scans way more than I do, in every debate we've had I've seen so many fatal flaws in the scans you've provided and what you ignore, the entire solar system would've been sucked into the black hole

> LOL! What is with all this assuming? You think I'm blind or something like that? Of course, I knew that TFF was the first one. Why do you think that TFF is in the left there?
Because you clearly can't differ the most obvious bs, you can't see the difference between the cosmos and the multiverse, there are not infinite cosmos' and you are acting like there are by bringing up iNfInItE mUlTiVeRsEs, you need to stop making blind claims, the eighth cosmos is not the "eighth multiverse", and there are not infinite cosmos', the current marvel cosmology is the eighth cosmos with the 9th taking place in the future in immortal hulk, in the current cosmology the living tribunal and such are contained within the superflow

>There you go assuming again. I've said absolutely nothing about "cosmos". You, on the other hand, are saying sh*t like " its the 8th OMNIVERSE aka the cosmology, the seventh cosmos differs from the 8th, when the 7th cosmos became the 8th, the hierarchy was becoming a new one, eternity became supreme over LT and the shaper of worlds died". If anyone thinks that it's probably you.
So you admit to not knowing anything about the cosmos and that you assume blindly that I am the only one with knowledge on how the cosmology works? I'm sorry but I'll absolutely take the W on this one
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 20 d
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Spectre @LuciferMorningstar
Okay, and what about all the others like Infinity? Cuz it sounds like to me your telling me that ME is beyond them.
Occasionally? So where are all the other times that he was an omniverse? How come he was being bound up in chains? How come TFF is both simply older and stronger?
LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor @HolyJoe
ME is beyond them, Infinity, and those other incarnations existed within Multi Eternity 8th incarnation, within the Far shore (hence they were alive despite being hollow husks).
NeverQueen is the new entity so to speak now, Infinity is dead and got replaced by NeverQueen (who is above Multi Eternity 8th incarnation).

Omniverse/Multiverse as I told you just refers to everything depending on context, in Loki it referred to Multi Eternity cuz they were literally in Oblivion above him, and the surfer statement.
Omniverse the term doesnt matter, as it just described Multi Eternity as all.

TFF is stronger because TFF was literally everything below Oblivion before being split, why he was stronger in Ultimates is because Multi Eternity was weak, and TFF literally had Celestials keep poisoning multi eternity, then Maker destroyed the superflow too to make Multi Eternity even weaker for TFF to absorb.

TFF is basically the whole Omniverse, but was split.
HolyJoe
HolyJoe 2 mo 20 d
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Spectre @Empty It's you that's proven nothing, because you haven't shown an instance of Multi-Eternity being an actual omniverse. And all the scans you've shown about Multi-Eternity being a simple "multiverse" sounds really contradicting with you trying to say he's a cosmo or omniverse.

>Whats the context to that? you provide outta context scans way more than I do, in every debate we've had I've seen so many fatal flaws in the scans you've provided and what you ignore, the entire solar system would've been sucked into the black hole

What's the point in that? You literally say stuff like "stop providing out of context scans" to people that provide them when they're actually bringing up a point. That scan of WW being bulletproof you provided was from the Injustice comic. You were even shown instances of her bracelets and armor failing to block the bullets. The first scan you provided in that thread doesn't even prove that she's completely bulletproof. It just shows Wonder Woman blocking them with her bracelets.


>Because you clearly can't differ the most obvious bs, you can't see the difference between the cosmos and the multiverse, there are not infinite cosmos' and you are acting like there are by bringing up iNfInItE mUlTiVeRsEs, you need to stop making blind claims, the eighth cosmos is not the "eighth multiverse", and there are not infinite cosmos', the current marvel cosmology is the eighth cosmos with the 9th taking place in the future in immortal hulk, in the current cosmology the living tribunal and such are contained within the superflow You have no idea what you're talking about, there are infinite levels of the multiverse and ME embodies them all

You just provided some scans of Multi-Eternity being called a "multiverse" and you say he's a cosmo. I don't see how I'm the one making blind claims here when you keep saying they're eight cosmos and I just showed them being the eight multiverses.


>So you admit to not knowing anything about the cosmos and that you assume blindly that I am the only one with knowledge on how the cosmology works? I'm sorry but I'll absolutely take the W on this one

LOL, no. I admit that you think "infinite multiverses" means infinite cosmos' because of all the talk you're having on that "omniversal" sh*t. You're trying to make me think that Multi-Eternity is infinite multiverses combined. Your idea of Multi-Eternity being the "eighth omniverse" isn't making any sense. For you to think that it's like saying there's more than one omniverse in all of Marvel.
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HolyJoe
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And you with your statement "TFF is basically the whole Omniverse, but was split." sounds extremely contradictory to your previous statement "He is the 8th cosmos/incarnation idc what empty says. Its the only Omniverse, there is no previous before that". You should've thought twice about that before posting it after taking a look back at your previous statement.
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HolyJoe
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Spectre You both provided a bunch of bs scaling and scans that had nothing to do with the Rune King Thor storyline. You just took an outdated 2004 comic and tried to extremely high-ball Rune King Thor with some baseless claims from 2016 comics. I doubt you guys even notice how contradictory your claims are. If anyone's taking the W here it's definitely not you two. The debate's over; this thread was a complete waste time and you proved nothing. So leave all the w*nk in a bottomless pit and just let it f***ing die for God's sake.
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EmptyHand
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Rune King Thor > It's you that's proven nothing, because you haven't shown an instance of Multi-Eternity being an actual omniverse. And all the scans you've shown about Multi-Eternity being a simple "multiverse" sounds really contradicting with you trying to say he's a cosmo or omniverse.

The highest edge of the multiverse IS the omniverse, i shown there being infinite levels of the multiverse, meaning that "omniverse" and "multiverse" in this context going by there existence, would be synonyms since he exists within the outside, you thinking the word has only 1 meaning being all verses combined shows how bad a debater you actually can be sometimes, and you saying we didn't prove anything shows how you ignored everything we said

> What's the point in that? You literally say stuff like "stop providing out of context scans" to people that provide them when they're actually bringing up a point. That scan of WW being bulletproof you provided was from the Injustice comic. You were even shown instances of her bracelets and armor failing to block the bullets. The first scan you provided in that thread doesn't even prove that she's completely bulletproof. It just shows Wonder Woman blocking them with her bracelets.

The first scan shows them not hitting her bracelets unless the armor on her tits are bracelets for you? which wouldn't make any sense would it? also, I provided context to all of your blind a*s scabs you used to hop on a bandwagon with, yet I proved how none of those will prove anything and you're just blindly saying bs, so all you want to do is deny my claims and i generally think you don't actually believe what you're saying you're just being an idiot because you don't want to concede, stop being a rat

> You just provided some scans of Multi-Eternity being called a "multiverse" and you say he's a cosmo. I don't see how I'm the one making blind claims here when you keep saying they're eight cosmos and I just showed them being the eight multiverses.

The first firmament calls multi eternity the eighth cosmos, he encompasses the 8th cosmos, read ultimates again and tell me where I f*cked up in this scaling, since you are just making arguments from assumption

> LOL, no. I admit that you think "infinite multiverses" means infinite cosmos' because of all the talk you're having on that "omniversal" sh*t. You're trying to make me think that Multi-Eternity is infinite multiverses combined. Your idea of Multi-Eternity being the "eighth omniverse" isn't making any sense. For you to think that it's like saying there's more than one omniverse in all of Marvel.

Whenever there's a new cosmos there's a new omniverse and that's the current state of the omniverse in marvel, so I don't get what you're saying, the "omniverse" in this context doesn't mean every fictional verse, and you assume it goes by that meaning

> You both provided a bunch of bs scaling and scans that had nothing to do with the Rune King Thor storyline

Uh yes we did, we showed how RKT scales to TWSAIS and gave TWSAIS scaling

> If anyone's taking the W here it's definitely not you two
lmao the arrogance

> The debate's over; this thread was a complete waste time and you proved nothing
Yeah sure its not ending until you concede

> So leave all the w*nk in a bottomless pit and just let it f***ing die for God's sake.
Not w*nk
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LuciferMorningstar
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Dont be so stupid ffs, I was in that context TALKING ABOUT THE INCARNATIONS, Multi Eternity never was an Omniverse, he never was beyond the totality, until he became the 8th incarnation. And again Omniverse just means everything, another synonym for multiverse with Multi Eternity.
Multi Eternity is just all of creation.
And my statement is being for incarnations, TFF before split was literally everything, including current Multi Eternity, he was everything.

"You both provided a bunch of bs scaling and scans that had nothing to do with the Rune King Thor storyline. You just took an outdated 2004 comic and tried to extremely high-ball Rune King Thor with some baseless claims from 2016 comics. I doubt you guys even notice how contradictory your claims are. If anyone's taking the W here it's definitely not you two. The debate's over; this thread was a complete waste time and you proved nothing. So leave all the w*nk in a bottomless pit and just let it f***ing die for God's sake."

Tell ME RIGHT NOW HOW MY SCANS ARE BS. I literally gave dark wing scans on what RKT one shotted, and him being beyond every god, and how TWSAIS were impressed with him and wanted him in their group and more. So tell me right now what is wrong with it, stop being a rat.
HolyJoe
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Spectre @EmptyHand & @LuciferMorningstar Enough of the insults already. You amateurs are just not good at them and they don't make you sound any more intelligent. Besides, I've heard way more offensive sh*t than what you clowns gave me. And stop copying every word I type, cuz it's really lazy and childish. I really don't give much of a f*ck if it makes you address me better. Be original and use your own words for once. I only did the same thing to get you to stop.

Who said I was a debater anyway? If you took a glance at my bio I've clearly admitted I don't consider myself an excellent debater. That doesn't mean that I don't read comics, though. I read them in my spare time which is quite difficult for me to balance out. How can you call my scans of the Spectre out of context when there's literally more than one version of him? At the very least I can provide evidence and use reasoning.

You guys previously showed me scans and stated that Multi-Eternity was an omniverse and he's the eighth one out of the rest. And now you're telling me he's actually not? Not only that, you showed me some different scans that state he's a multiverse, cosmo, or whatever the hell it is. You haven't even specified which incarnation of Eternity was in each scan. How can you two not see what's wrong with that?

Just because TWSAIS were in complete nothingness doesn't mean that they existed in oblivion. Your scans there don't even mention anything about Multi-Eternity. It's like you're trying to say he's in every alternate timeline in Marvel. And simply destroying the Ragnarok cycle that had 9 Realms and surpassing some gods doesn't make a character "outerversal". At best, it's only complex multiversal. You can't scale characters like that.

All this is w*nk and you know it. When you guys tried to convince me that Thanos actually absorbed TOAA, I still had my doubts.
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LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor @HolyJoe

You literally started insulting my scaling. Again, stop contradicting yourself, you just make yourself look bad.
What? I did THAT LITERALLY LIKE 2 TIMES WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM. My paragraphs are huge and addressing you, while yours are mostly copying mine actually, do I need to show you that? You need to tell that to empty and yourself, not to me. I never copy somebody's reply. So again another point debunked. Lets get to the next.

Ok you are addressing empty here more than me, and btw I think your evidence and reasoning is trash, I exposed you for using your scans false (you literally used Presence scans for Spectre, good one).

I said he is an Omniverse, while telling you what Omniverse meant, and how it is a synonym for all of creation and multiverse used? Yeah I did. I told you multiverse for multi eternity refers to obviously everything, while also showing examples where multiverse can mean more THAN JUST THE STRUCTURE? Yeah I did. Again the 8th incarnation is the only Omniverse, and Omniverse just means all of creation which is Multi Eternity, he is all multiverses (as I said all incarnations are within him), and he is the realms beyond that (superflow, nexus, neutral zone, far shore etc), hence the term Omniverse.
I legit explained that & never said there was an Omniverse before, and even shown what Multiverse meant, it didnt mean just multiverse, it is in context of EVERYTHING below Oblivion for Multi Eternity.
Just like the DC Map would be called multiverse, but the map has realms beyond the multiverse, so idk wtf your problem is again.

This fight is about Aztar, and your scans are trash, I literally picked each of them apart.

IT LITERALLY SAYS THAT IT IS OBLIVION AND THE SURFER STATEMENT BACKS IT UP AS I ALREADY TOLD YOU, SURFER IN HIS 2014 RUN WAS LITERALLY IN A REALM WITHIN OBLIVION. And Loki said Surfer is somewhere here, just showing TWSAIS existed in Oblivion (cuz it wasnt shown to be the realm surfer was in, Oblivion is huge, infinite nothingness, it proves they were in the same plane of existence tho). Literally did you even look at the scans I sent? Do I need to send them again? It is Literally Oblivion stated on paper, you are just denying at this point. It literally talks about the whole Totality/Omniverse/Multiverse/Creation from down below Oblivion, which we know Multi Eternity is, backed that it is written by Al Ewing too, the writer of Ultimates. Why shouldnt it be Multi Eternity? Stop just saying it is not, give actual reasons. It is provided so by the proof.
It has infinite realms actually, is called a metaverse, and is connected with the main marvel multiverse.
It even has entities like LT and Eternity (M-Body) inside, so you don't know your stuff do you?

And literally I explained how it was all of time in creation and also all of the fate, and how it included any god story, which includes Chaos war, which would be including Multi eternity 7th incarnation. So again, you didnt refute ANY of those points and are just repeating yourself with false nonsense.

What scans? You want those I told you to check out for a million times? Those I gave dark wing? Just tell me what scans you want and I will give them to you.
I told you Thanos was w*nk which I debunked myself long time ago & did it for fun.
HolyJoe
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Spectre @LuciferMorningstar If anyone's doing the contradicting here it's you, pal. You say you never copy someone else's replies when you literally did so several hours ago and you even did it on that Jiren vs Superman thread. If there's never been an omniverse before then why'd you classify TFF as being a split omniverse? What's the point in calling me out for insulting your scaling when you always do the same to me and others? You're calling my scans trash, but where are your scans of Rune King Thor doing anything more impressive than what Spectre did besides gaining omniscience, becoming one with a universe, evolving past death, or even destroying Yggdrasil and a group of Gods? Whatever your favorite version of Thor has done I guarantee you the Spectre already did even better. And if you were to tell others that characters like Multi-Eternity and Oblivion scale beyond the Spectre without thinking twice before making such claims, then you'd be the one providing false nonsense. You should've chosen Old King Thor who heavily damaged Galactus, defeated him with the Necroblade after damaging the Necroverse and later possessing the Phoenix Force, the same thing that exists beyond reality, created the multiverse and has a heart that is the core of creation and the Nexus of all Realities and decide to high-ball him with better logical thinking all before you went around on the site making baseless claims like RKT stomping any other character people put him up against. And since you're the one who did the Thanos w*nk, you and @Empty can sure as hell concede and end this RKT w*nk.
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LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor @HolyJoe
How am I contradicting myself? So far I addressed all your claims and debunked them, I literally said HERE IN THIS DEBATE I COPIED YOUR SENTENCE LIKE 2 TIMES. AND YOU DID IT FIRST TO ME LITERALLY.
And it were 2 stats of sentences only, that never made up my paragraphs, and then I stopped doing it. So again, nonsense point.

TFF WAS EVERYTHING FFS BEFORE HE WAS SPLIT IS WHAT I SAID. There was no Omniverse WITH THE INCARNATIONS as I have told you now 3 times. TFF after being split = not an Omniverse.
Name an example where I for no reason keep harassing your scaling like you did to mine?

Your scans are trash, because you literally used 2 wrong scans that were for Presence, and applied them to Spectre...actually you used 3 scans that were for Presence LOL.
My Rune King Thor scans are in the Dark Wing thread, but just for you I will show them again okay?
But first off to go over the scans you sent.

He did not only evolve beyond death, he evolved around beyond any God and its story, which includes Chaos War. Yggdrasil? What lol. He literally destroyed the cycle there, all of fate, time, and creation of Gods, he basically one shotted Chaos war arc and every god arc that TWSAIS have been feeding upon, and I will prove now why. AND HE DIDNT BEAT THE GROUP OF GODS, WE LITERALLY SEE THEM IN AGENT OF ASGARD. He only ended their FOOD SUPPLY.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P2qDjcGerdg/VntfFL7nS2I/AAAkrU/sJhZKy44JwQ/s0-Ic42/RCO015.jpg
This shows it is the Cycle itself, the stories of Gods, all of fate and time and more. Not just yggdrasil as you claimed. The cycle would include Chaos war as it is a story of Gods.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/WIMM3CqkDkbAFGj_CEkHGkRvmz2ohv6IN7pzl1owOUkkrNI-w7jiTAkQjKy_IuOBTUKOZx-9t5U=s0
God of Stories Loki held the cycle here, the very story of any God, that TWSAIS have been feeding upon the whole time. That's the same **** RKT ended, but it was obviously brought back.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/Q7mP6b0f3DU09HUX4svV0RQknp4VmlbrxXgcVGDwKnEujwucdCIUIi7FC5FOmUzxKnYsRh1O0ZI=s0
Literally said here they returned from RKT his stuff, one shotting the cycle didnt end their food supply.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/Vvx-tuQODgl-g_QZoC6fPL8xeG8usHdupqTbK8VeZPFFiVQK7iroz7bU9WyBHblpbAPoBVoWATg=s0

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/6xfChcBHUmJzcK7x4nRZ_I1Tos57TPxSjQ2uVFg1H7jhL-rXkr7cA7YGM6drRk3jxAmCPERrw6I=s0
Literally stated they exist in Oblivion, independent from Multi Eternity, which is proven by this happening while Ivory Kings killed everything, and everything was dead, hence they state all stories are gone, except the Gods stories. Showing TWSAIS are independent from incursions.

TWSAIS being impressed with RKT and wanting him in their team.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WBdnwVxnhLE/VntfFVck5YI/AAAkrU/4WBSaTAHL1c/s0-Ic42/RCO016.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mCjIaA36_Mg/Vnte5Q9y95I/AAAkoU/zO1ekLrytmg/s0-Ic42/RCO006.jpg
Stated again the cycle is the end of all things. It is everything. Yggdrasil is just ONE PART of it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705545158040485960/713473219683680396/Yggdrasil_encompasses_Living_tribunal.jpg
Yggdrasil literally encompasses entities.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705545158040485960/713473223013957643/RCO008_1.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705545158040485960/713473222401851452/RCO004_1.jpg
Yggdrasil is literally an infinite Metaverse.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705545158040485960/713473507052355614/A1DiCL4_d.webp
Yggdrasil literally is connected with the main multiverse, and encompasses realms beyond and outside reality, while also encompassing multiversal to hyperversal entities.

I can show even more yggdrasil scans, but the point is Yggdrasil is only ONE PART OF THE STORIES OF GODS/THE CYCLE. And Rune King Thor literally ONE SHOTTED THAT.

Rune King Thor also impressed beings beyond Multi Eternity (as I have shown they are independent and didnt even care about Incursion) and those wanted him to join their group.
Multi Eternity and Oblivion do scale beyond Spectre, only not Oversoul Spectre, tho Oblivion still should scale beyond him...so what is your problem?

Why would I use Old King Thor? He is op, but Rune King Thor slaps him by feats.
I didnt even show all of his feats, but this is enough for you to hopefully realize how wrong you are.
I don't highball, that is meh.

I dont think RKT slaps ANYBODY, I shown you the marvel list. RKT is below his fair share of beings, actual beings beyond Multi Eternity. The Phoenix itself is beyond Old King Thor, Multi Eternity is beyond both.
HolyJoe
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Holy sh*t! I honestly can't f***ing believe you're still going on with this. Why do you insist on beating a dead horse over an opinion? You're not gonna convince me otherwise, so just stop.

You did so before on this battle right here. You literally copied my words and made some essay filled with insults trying to debunk me and it took you an entire goddamn month to even provide your evidence.

Your first scan isn't even working and you got like 3 of those in your entire reply. What are you trying to prove by making another baseless claim with a broken link? Who the hell cares if a group of gods wanted Rune King Thor to join them? What would they even want him to do if he complied?

You actually believe that Rune King Thor can beat Old King Phoenix Thor? You're joking! Base Thor couldn't even hold a candle to the damn thing.



Do you even know how powerful the Phoenix Force is?

> It's the psionic energies' repository of the Multiverse.

> It'll bring creation to an end and leave it in Oblivion.

> It's power overwhelmed the Beyonder.

> Is a threat to the entire cosmos.

> Is the multiverse's Big Bang.

If anybody's wrong on that, it's you, dumb-ass. And quit lying about NOT saying sh*t like RKT slaps. You just did so on this battle and here.

Stop replying and end the w*nk already for Christ's sake! God.
LuciferMorningstar
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Ok so you have not refuted ANY POINT at all and ignored the scans I have given.
You are the one replying, I am not beating a dead horse, YOU WANTED SCANS FROM ME.

It took me a MONTH BECAUSE LITERALLY YOU NEVER TOLD ME WHAT SCANS TO SEND. I took like minutes to get my scans otherwise.


THIS IS THE SCAN that didnt work, idk why it didnt work. It is basically Rune King Thor as I said about the cycle. All my other links work so idk what do you even mean. Here, I gave it without the blogspot link.

How is my claim baseless when I literally provided proof for everything I said, heck RKT would have one shotted Surtur easily.

The group of gods were TWSAIS and I went over how impressive they are with proof, so you saying "how is it impressive" just makes you look stupid, get out.

I know the Phoenix force better than you do, and know Thor didnt even have full access to it, which wouldn't change with the RKT scaling. RKT DOES SLAP THERE YOU MORON, I said RKT doesnt slap EVERYBODY as you claimed so another lie caught from you.

Its power didnt overwhelm the Beyonder, Beyonder was curious about creation his whole life, and when he got the glimpse of it from PF (btw he expected his power only back as he gave PF his power, but he got more than he expected), he got overwhelmed by learning so much new information.

Doesnt matter as current PF is beyond the Beyonder, the Beyonder isnt even that impressive to begin with with current Marvel.
LuciferMorningstar
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Rune King Thor Watch Joe say I insulted him now, when I did not the previous paras, and he literally just did LOL
Tyrannus
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Spectre Are you serious?
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EmptyHand
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Rune King Thor Yes I'm very serious
Clint_Barton
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Spectre Aztar stomps
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HolyJoe
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Spectre Really. Any version of Spectre would beat any version of Thor.
AkhilPDX
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Spectre I'm pretty sure the more powerful versions of Thor can beat the weaker versions of Spectre but unbound Spectre is on a completely different level.
EmptyHand
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Rune King Thor Blitzed

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