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RajinKabir
Shaper Of Worlds vs Cosmic Armor Superman
Shaper Of Worlds


This is proof again that Shaper maybe capable of doing incredible things but he needs other people's imagination to do so.
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Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 17 h 29 m
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Shaper Of Worlds This is really weird and frustrating.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 8 d
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Shaper Of Worlds What is?
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 1 mo 6 d
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Shaper Of Worlds When CAS was winning.
Oblivion
Oblivion 2 mo 17 d
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Cosmic Armor Superman Cas blinks
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 16 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Agreed
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 20 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Wtf? SOW blinks
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 18 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Agreed
Dusk_Pikachu
Dusk_Pikachu 2 mo 18 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Yes.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 16 d
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Shaper Of Worlds No
MrJaeger07
MrJaeger07 2 mo 16 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Saying "no" is something is risky.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 20 d
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Shaper Of Worlds @Rajin wanna debate?
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 20 d
Shaper Of Worlds vs Cosmic Armor Superman
Shaper Of Worlds Well i don't know much abou SOW. But i heard that his weakness is he doesn't have his own imagination. He has to depend on other being's ideas to manipulate reality. Am i correct?? That why i voted CAS
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 20 d
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Shaper Of Worlds What the hell indicates he relies on other beings to manipulate reality, the fact SS used his power to recreate multi eternity? yeah cause that totally means he needs other beings to manipulate reality
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 18 d
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Shaper Of Worlds I would like to know in which issue he created multi-eternity.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 18 d
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Shaper Of Worlds And i read about his weakness in wikipedia and also in fandom.com
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 18 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Here the neverqueen dies (a being already superior to multi Eternity)


Because of that everything within multi eternity collapses


Here the surfer breaks through multi eternity and goes outside of multi eternity


We see multi eternity is still corrupted by doctor doom/ivory kings


We then find out we're not in any empty void, we're on the shaper of worlds forehead (and it straight up says that the shaper of worlds is BOUNDLESS Which would put him tier 0)


This would mean he would encompass multi eternity and all other beings that exist on his forehead

^issue #13 silver surfer 2014^

Then utilizing the shaper of worlds powers, norrin casually recreated multi eternity






However he used his powers in a bad way by killing galactus (the embodiment of balance within the multiverse)

Thus the shape of everything he made was wrong



^issue #14^

Then when the shaper was confirmed in a dying state (very freaking weakened)

His power gets absorbed


With that power, the neverqueen was casually recreated



And a multiverse equal in size to multi eternity was casually created
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 18 d
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Shaper Of Worlds And why is your evidence Wikipedia/fandoms like you used to try and fail to get me to believe alien X is Omnipotent
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 18 d
Shaper Of Worlds vs Cosmic Armor Superman
Shaper Of Worlds Im thinking about it. But i don't think they recreated a multiverse but a universe. And TQON asked Dawn to chose the shape of her heart of every possibility and she chose the shape of her house's front gate and when they reached it there was a possibility, a future. That was why NQ was reborn. How is that multi eternity if it was only one universe?? And after the incursions doom only created a universe from what i remember
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 18 d
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Shaper Of Worlds They used Universe as a synonym for multiverse, wtf are you talking about

And they used the shapers powers to recreate the neverqueen, it wasn't because new possibilities sparked
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds
This makes me feel she was reborn because of a possibility. Let me know your opinion.
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RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds But still. In these issues it was SS ,Dawn and Glorian who created Multi-Eternity . Well yes they used Shaper's powers. But the new multiverse was created from their imagination. Not Shaper's. Since i don't know much about shaper. You must give me a reference of an issue where he did something like this using his own thoughts or imagination.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds That's her metaphorically saying "and just like that, the embodiment of possibility (neverqueen) is reborn" since she's saying after being recreated, possibilities exist again, that's it

Legit I already gave you scans of him saying the surfer used his powers sh*t, and that implies he can use the powers must better than the surfer can, which he could, plus again it was his power they used meaning he can do it himself
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Then why didn't TSOW use his powers to create Multi-Eternity himself at the first place. Why give his powers to Ss,Dawn and Glorian??
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds He didn't give his power, they took it from him, and it was a tiny portion of his power when the shaper of worlds was in a dying state, shaper fixed the mistakes SS made when recreating reality, so actually, TSOW>>>SOW amped surfer
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds How do you know he fixed the mistakes. He couldn't even chose between the Silver Surfers. I know his powers were gone. But he said it was not his place to do so.
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds And yes they created a single universe and shaper needs other's imagination.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds I just showed a scan of it stating that "single Universe" meant multiverse in this context, just like the first firmament being stated a Universe but a multiverse, it's litteraly stated to be outside the multiverse so no it wasn't a single Universe

He litteraly states it he has no power in that scan because he was previously dying, he doesn't NEED others imagination to to know how the multiverse should be built as I already proved, him not having an imagination doesn't mean he isn't more Powerful than multi eternity, or CAS, he didn't sacrifice his power again they took it FROM HIM, and if he couldn't use his powers himself then why does he know when everything within creation is shaped incorrectly? You need to explain that, and I've proven how powerful the shaper of worlds is

You haven't gotten to the point yet, you've just been trying to debunk shaper being above multi eternity with flawed points, you haven't gotten to your main point in how TF does CAS win here if he's dwarfed by the shaper in terms of power
RajinKabir
RajinKabir 2 mo 17 d
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Shaper Of Worlds Well i still don't agree. They only created a universe. Only one. There is no place where it is said that they created a multiverse and if they created a multiverse why not just say a multiverse. SS ,Glorian and Dawn were clearly seen making a universe. They were making planets not universes with their powers. The 7th cosmos ended with earth-1610 and earth-616 colliding. Then Doom salvaged what he could and made only one universe. And shaper himself said he had no imagination to guide him. And whats the use of power if you can't use it yourself. And CAS is plot device and he can adapt instantly counter any threat. He can counter to SOW too.
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 8 d
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Shaper Of Worlds For anyone who thinks I ducked I replied to him on discord and he conceded

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