Rune King Thor
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Rune King Thor

Thor Odinson

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Dark_Wing
Rune King Thor
Only after you've lost everything... Can you do anything... I have walked the same path as Odin. I have destroyed myself and been reborn. I know the unknowable. I see the unseen. I know why and how you've done these evil deeds. And it matters not. What happens next is all that matters. _Rune King Thor.
SirSpidey
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@Galactus: Who was the one who took away Omnipotence?
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soratoumiga
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Someone with common sense.
Dark_Wing
Rune King Thor
TOWSAIS are ELDER GODS not beyonders you've been proven wrong on that.
EmptyHand
Rune King Thor
Someone who is smart took away omnipotent
Galactus
Galactus 30 d
Rune King Thor
10+ year member
I don't keep track of that. Probably me? :)
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 30 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
@Galactus It was a good choice.
SirSpidey
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@Galactus: Lol, you don't keep track of that? Okay, if it was you, then prove Rune King Thor is not Omnipotent.
Dark_Wing
Rune King Thor
Because he didn't kill beyonders
jongensoden
Rune King Thor
1 year member
He killed beyonder Those who sit above in the shadow did say the same thing like the beyonders
Dark_Wing
Rune King Thor
Proof? I did a little bit of research and The description of TOWSAIS seem more like elder gods than beyonders
Sp
Spiare 2 mo 19 d
Rune King Thor
Why did you removed omnipotent? He defeated 5 beyonder in one hit
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 2 mo 19 d
Rune King Thor
NO HE DIDN'T STOP LYING
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 22 d
Rune King Thor
Rune king thoverrated
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 23 d
Rune King Thor
LETS GO, no more omnipotent and is finally below presence & toaa
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 4 mo 14 d
Rune King Thor
Pls pls, Remove omnipotent
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
@Galactus, can you please get rid of omnipotence, omniscience, death touch, and darkforce manipulation.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Only if you can prove that Rune King Thor doesn't deserve them, of which you have shown me that you can't
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Too bad, he already said he might.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Thanks for proving to us that your argument is invalid
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
I wasn't trying to argue because it's stupid trying to argue that someone on the level of Galactus and Eternity can match TOAA and Beyonder. Therefore he isn't omnipotent.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Lol, great argument. Give @AkhilPDX a round of applause. πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
That isn't an argument.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 4 mo 23 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
I agree with @AkhilPDX, those powers need to be removed, he doesn't deserve them.
Speedster_Shahm
Rune King Thor
1 year member
overrated
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Prove it
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
His greatest feats (at least from what I know of), is surpassing Odin and BFRing Surtur.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
And wishing away Mangog and stopping Ragnarok by killing Those Who Sit Above In Shadow (who are NOT Beyonders).
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@LordTracer: And what about the writers saying that he knows all of the past, controls the present, and guides the future to his will? And what about being more powerful than 5 Beyonders, who, by the way, created their own Multiverse? What about him wishing away beings such as Mangog? I swear, we have already been over all of this. Surely y'all didn't forget
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@AkhilPDX: Don't claim things you cannot prove
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Well, there is no proof to support that. It is only assumptions, so IDC. You are literally the only one EVER that thinks RK Thor is TOAA's level and there is nothing you can do to prove it.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
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3 year member
Exactly. Thanks for proving to us that your argument is your own mere opinion. Popular or not, my argument is still fact
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Lol, it isn't fact, but you keep thinking that.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Maybe, just maybe, because no one has proven me wrong
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Your arrogance is so high is can't be related to.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
You can relate to me once you can prove your arguments fact
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
@SirSpidey when he says he's overrated he probably means you overrate him. Lol
ManofPower
ManofPower 9 mo 21 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@SirSpidey
RKT is Only Nigh-Omniscient,Omnipotent and Omnipresent when he is in Asgar d due to the power in it
He can barely surpass light on earth
RKT isn't even on par with Eterntiy,Infinity etc etc
If he is give me proof . Not just Comic i also want a scan
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ManofPower
ManofPower 9 mo 21 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
In which comic does it sho s Thor destroying a Universe/Multiverse
In Which Comic does Rune King Thor move even close to the speed of light
In Which Comic does Rune King Thor sho w Omnipotent Power
windshadow
windshadow 9 mo 20 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
RKT is actually Omniscient and Nigh-Omnipresent but not omnipotent or nigh-omnipotent.
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 4 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@Spidey Can you add nigh-omnipresence?
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 4 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@Spidey He needs nigh-omnipresence(AT LEAST).
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 4 d
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3 year member
Oh, did not even realize that power was added. Should I add 'Nigh Omnipresence' or keep 'Dimensional Awareness' and 'Dimensional Travel'?
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 4 d
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1 year member
Just keep dimensional awareness and travel. Don't add nigh-omnipresence.
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 4 d
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1 year member
What powers were removed?
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Hawkinz
Hawkinz 10 mo 4 d
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1 year member
I believe Omnipresence
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 4 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Correct
wolfdragon123
wolfdragon123 10 mo 5 d
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3 year member
I like the picture he had before. It currently looks like Captain Atom/Silver Surfer with long hair
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 4 d
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3 year member
Well the picture he had before was not even Rune King Thor so... Also, his picture currently does not look anything like Silver Surfer or Captain Atom. They share zero similar facial features
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 4 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Yeh. That was Odin Force Thor. They do have a bit in common. RKT looks a bit shiny.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 10 mo 5 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Get rid of Omnipotence, Omnipresence, and Omniscience. Give him Nigh-Omniscience.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 4 d
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3 year member
No
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 4 mo 24 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Yes.
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 4 mo 24 d
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2 year member
Actually, don't even give him nigh-omniscience.
ManofPower
ManofPower 10 mo 11 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@Spidey why do you have him so OP? This isn't even Thor 's most powerful version . Old King Thor is more powerful than RKT. I don't have proof but I've seen other yotubers say it and a few of my friends have said it
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 11 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Instead of complaining, how about you tell me which powers I should take off. And no, Old King Thor is not Thor's most powerful version
ManofPower
ManofPower 10 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Omnipotent , Omniscient and Omnipresence
That's it
A power i would add is omnilingualism
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
He's not omnilingualistic.
ManofPower
ManofPower 10 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Really .
How is he able to talk to numerous amounts of aliens
I know that's not omnilinguasim but it's close enough
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
β€’ Omnipotent: He controls the present and is more powerful than Beyonders, the same race of beings who killed the Living Tribunal
β€’ Omniscient: He received Well of Mimir Knowledge which gives the recipient the ability to know all things, seen and unseen; from the past, present, and future
β€’ Omnipresent: He can go wherever he pleases and is aware of all that goes on everywhere
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 10 mo 5 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Omnipotence: HE IS NOT MORE POWERFUL than the Living Tribunal. He killed, Those Who Sit Above In Shadow aren't Beyonders. They just feed off of Ragnarok!
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Omniscience: Rune King Thor is NIGH-Omniscient, not Omniscient.
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Omnipresence: Having the ability to travel anywhere isn't omnipresence. That's dimensional travel. Omnipresence is the ability to be everywhere at once!
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 4 d
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3 year member
- Omnipotence: Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are confirmed to be Beyonders by the writers themselves as I proved below and many other places. Rune King Thor also controls the Present and guides the Future which would make him Omnipotent as well. Rune King Thor also destroyed a Multiverse and considering no being is above Multiversal, I think it is safe to say that that confirms Rune King Thor being Omnipotent
- Omniscient: Mere statements arenΒ΄t helping your case at all. Where is your comic book evidence? Rune King Thor received Well of Mimir Knowledge which gives the recipient the ability to know all things, seen and unseen; from the past, present, and future from not only the Asgardian Multiverse, but also the mainstream Earthen Mutiverse
- Omnipresence: Yeah, I guess I could take Omnipresence off
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 12 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@Sidey Aren't 'Those Who Sit Above In Shadow' elder gods like Gaea etc?
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windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 12 d
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1 year member
And didn't Thor merge with Eternity to go into Thor Sleep?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 12 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Not that I know of. There was no indication of Eternity anywhere in Thor Volume 2 #85
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 12 d
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1 year member
Also aren't 'Those Who Sit Above In Shadow' elder gods like Gaea etc?
ElectroSpino
ElectroSpino 10 mo 12 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4646408-thorv208524.jpeg Isn't this his merging with Eternity?
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 12 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
But when he destroys those who sit above in shadow, he ascends and says 'I stare into Eternity'.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 11 d
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3 year member
@windshadow: No, Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are not Elder gods. As for the Eternity thing, hmm, I guess I missed that. I don't know why it matter though. Care to explain?
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Wouldn't that be the reason Thor is omnipresent?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
No, why?
Jakcj
Jakcj 10 mo 13 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Here's what I think that should be taken off:
Resurrection
Omnipresent (Don't know how he can be everywhere to be honest)
Omnipotent (Thor doesn't have unlimited power)
Death Touch (I don't really think Thor should have this if he's the God Of Thunder)
that's all I have.
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ElectroSpino
ElectroSpino 10 mo 13 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Agree all accept resurrection (assumining it means ressurect others), he ripped off Loki's head and kept him alive I think that counts. Riviving from your own death I think counts as regeneration if that's what your meaning
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 13 d
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3 year member
β€’ Resurrection: Throughout all of Thor Volume 2 #84-85, Rune King Thor could have resurrected all of who died during Ragnarok, but instead, he just let Ragnarok go on as he knew that the wise thing to do was let the fallen die a glorious death for one last glorious battle
β€’ Omnipresent: He can go wherever he pleases and is aware of all that goes on everywhere
β€’ Omnipotent: He controls the present and is more powerful than Beyonders, the same race of beings who killed the Living Tribunal
β€’ Death Touch: Why does Thor being the God of Thunder mean that he shouldn't have Death Touch?
Jakcj
Jakcj 10 mo 13 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Beyonders Kill the Living Tribunal, Thor isn't powerful than the LT, It doesn't make any sense if he's the God Of Thunder and has the death touch that pretty much makes Thor a different character than being The God Of Thunder.
ElectroSpino
ElectroSpino 10 mo 13 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Where to bloody begin. I agree with ressurection I'll give you that. Omnipresent is only in certain realms, and that goes against the definition, because that's not everything. Omnipotent: No proof those were Beyonders, pure speculation, cannot be used as an feat. Death Touch: Why should he have Death Touch, this is seperate from reality warping, he cannot kill anyone via touch without this.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 13 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@Jakcj: Wat? Rune King Thor defeated a group of Beyonders. A group of Beyonders defeated the Living Tribunal. Rune King Thor > Beyonders > Living Tribunal. You have to understand that this is Rune King Thor, not regular Thor. Rune King Thor evolved past just being the God of Thunder
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 13 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@ElectroSpino:
β€’ Omnipresent: In which comic does it say that Thor is bound to only certain realms?
β€’ Omnipotent: Yes, Loki was the one who hypothesized that they were Beyonders, but that is not the only piece of evidence I have. The writers further hinted to us the confirmation of them being Beyonders whenever they wrote Those Who Sit Above In Shadow saying the exact same thing the Beyonder said in his very first appearance verbatim. In 'Loki: Agent of Asgard #14', Those Who Sit Above In Shadow say, "Nothing you dream of is impossible for us to accomplish!" and "Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours!" In 'Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #1', the Beyonder said, "Nothing you dream of is impossible for me to accomplish!" and "Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours!" This is no coincidence @ElectroSpino. The writers are confirming the suspicion that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are Beyonders
β€’ Death Touch: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 14
ElectroSpino
ElectroSpino 10 mo 13 d
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2 year member
On my phone will confirm other sources later, but for the beyonder ones could very well be either a coincidence or more likely a homage. What your saying is the equivalent of saying Bane and Donald Trump are the same for saying a similar line in a speach. It is not officially confirmed. Also even if they are beyonders, theres no proof they are the same level as those who killed TLT. Beyonders are a race, different ones are different power levels. We need to just completly seperate TWSAS and Beyonders until we have more proof, as TWSAS did not show that same power level.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 13 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
What does being on your phone have to do with literally anything? I've been on my phone this entire time. Quit with all the lame a** excuses. Lol, key word, "similar." Those Who Sit Above In Shadow did not say something "similar" to what the Beyonder said, they repeated what the Beyonder said VERBATIM. That is not coincidence. The writers knew what they were doing. In which comic does it say that all Beyonders have a different power level? And don't say because they are a race. Humans are a race and we all have the same potential for "power" level
remy94
remy94 10 mo 20 d
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2 year member
Omgosh the power scaling on this site is completely backwards if Thor is more powerful than the One Above All or the Presence.
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ManofPower
ManofPower 10 mo 20 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Where you been man. You've missed A lot
remy94
remy94 10 mo 20 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Been busy, new place new job.
ManofPower
ManofPower 10 mo 20 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Cool... As you can see I got Mod Status😁.
But any way how s your book coming along?
remy94
remy94 10 mo 20 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
It's coming along, don't always get to work on it as much as used to, but I'll get it done eventually.
ManofPower
ManofPower 10 mo 20 d
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1 year member
Good.... Good. Oh @Swarm is actually producing a movie .
remy94
remy94 10 mo 20 d
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2 year member
Yes I know, he told me about that.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 20 d
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3 year member
@remy94: Well, instead of complaining, how about you tell me which powers to take off
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 20 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@SirSpidey I recommend you to look Shazam, Wonder Woman or Orion comics. They are similar to Thor. If you don't enjoy them read Injustice.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 23 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
So do we all agree that no one will b**** about Rune King Thor having the best stats in the database?
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Kanine88
Kanine88 10 mo 23 d
Rune King Thor
Agreed
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 23 d
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3 year member
Awesome!
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 27 d
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Aren't those who sit above shadow need a life force to contain themselves whereas the Beyonders don't work that way.They are far beyond just that. Also Loki ONLY HYPOTHESISED that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow could have created by the Asgardians beliefs.
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windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
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Also Loki only hypothesised that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow were Beyonders* He doesn't know for sure. Yes they are extremely over-powered but Loki isn't omniscient and doesn't know if they are Beyonders. Also they look different from Beyonders and don't exist outside the marvel multiverse. They rule the 9 realms. Therefore, it's not certain that they are Beyonders.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
What do you mean they need a Life Force to contain themselves? I'm not sure what you mean by that. I'm pretty sure that every character in Marvel has a Life Force. If no one didn't, well, no one would be alive. Yes, Loki was the one who hypothesized that they were Beyonders, but that is not the only piece of evidence I have. The writers further hinted to us the confirmation of them being Beyonders whenever they wrote Those Who Sit Above In Shadow saying the exact same thing the Beyonder said in his very first appearance verbatim. In 'Loki: Agent of Asgard #14', Those Who Sit Above In Shadow say, "Nothing you dream of is impossible for us to accomplish!" and "Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours!" In 'Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #1', the Beyonder said, "Nothing you dream of is impossible for me to accomplish!" and "Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours!" This is no coincidence @windshadow. The writers are confirming the suspicion that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are Beyonders
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 26 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Thanks for clearing that up but Beyonders exist outside the main marvel multiverse whereas Those Who Sit Above In Shadow rule the 9 realms(or Asgard, correct me if you will).
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 26 d
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The Nine Realms/Universes are their own Multiverse. They exist outside of the mainstream Marvel Multiverse which includes Earth 616, Earth 98, Earth 148, etc. So already, Those Who Sit Above In Shadow transcend the mainstream Marvel Multiverse as they are the rulers of their own Multiverse
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 25 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Ok thanks.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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3 year member
πŸ‘
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 29 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Any more powers I should take off?
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
So we all agree that no one will question Rune King Thor being above Elaine Belloc regarding the two characters stats?
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Stats don't usually mean anything, in a battle, so it's fine with me.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
He shouldn't be, but ok.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
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Also, Death Touch?
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 27 d
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Even though he has a higher stat number, it still wouldn't change the outcome of a hypothetical Elaine Belloc v. Rune King Thor battle.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 10 mo 27 d
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Oh yeah, Elaine stomps with a thought.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Yeah, she definently does.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 27 d
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@IMABATMAN42:
β€’ Why shouldn't he?
β€’ Death Touch: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 14
β€’ How does Elaine Belloc think Rune King Thor away (not that that would work because Rune King Thor is Omnipresent, buuuut okay)? When has she performed that ability?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 27 d
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@soratoumiga: How does Elaine Belloc defeat Rune King Thor?
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Because she would.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 27 d
Rune King Thor
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Currently, she is the literal Goddess of DC. She is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. Her Powers are outerversal range, she has no dimensional limitations and can move through hyperspace and hypertime. Thor can't beat her.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 10 mo 27 d
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β€’ Because he's just a buffed Thor, no amount of power, aside from power from an ACTUAL omnipotent, such as The Presence, could EVER make him equal to an omnipotent.
β€’ She doesn't need to display this ability, she's omnipotent, she can do ANYTHING.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 26 d
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@10earthquakes: Instead of giving me the most fanboy answer you could possibly give me, how about you prove that Elaine Belloc would beat Rune King Thor by using the very comics themselves
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 26 d
Rune King Thor
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@soratoumiga: So she is the supreme being of the DC Multiverse. Rune King Thor is the supreme being of his Multiverse. She is Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient. Rune King Thor is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient. She transcends Dimensions. Rune King Thor (hell, even regular Thor) transcends Dimensions. She can move faster than light. Rune King Thor (even regular Thor) can move at a speed that transcends time itself. So how exactly does Elaine Belloc defeat Rune King Thor again? Lastly, when has she destroyed a "Hyperverse", if there even is such a thing? And what the f*** is "Hypertime?"
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 26 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
We've been over this. Thor is not omnipotent, he is just omniscient and omnipresent with his own few universes, that is Nine Realms. Elaine on the other hand, transcends all of the multiverse and can control it without much effort. Depends on what dimension you mean. As a regular Thor, he doesn't even transcend time, which is the fourth dimension, however, Elaine transcends time, space and is infinte-dimensional. She is supreme over everything in DC Multiverse, when she isn't doing something important she is just chilling on a picnic blanket in a dimension that Thor cannot even comprehend (https://imgur.com/a/ePV27OZ). Elaine is omnipresent and couldn't care less about Thor's attacks, his God Blast or Mjolnir wouldn't even tickle her. Hyperverse is not a like a multiverse, you can't destroy it, it is a plane of existence where you exist beyond 12 dimensions. Hypertime is a plane of existence from which you can access any point of time, not sure about this one though.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 26 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@IMABATMAN42:
β€’ The Rune Stones were created by Those Who Sit Above In Shadow who are Beyonders and Beyonders are Omnipotent. So really, Rune King Thor did receive the power of "actual" Omnipotent beings. But even then, the Runes give the wielder the power to control the Present which effectively makes them Omnipresent. So yeah, Rune King Thor is Omnipotent
β€’ So she can perform abilities she has never been shown capable of performing, which means you are only ASSUMING she can perform those abilities. At least I can give you the exact comic, volume, issue, and page number that Rune King Thor has performed the abilities I have listed for him. All you can do is speak out of your a**. If I really wanted to, I could give Rune King Thor every power available to him on the 'power sheet' and say that he deserves them because he is "Omnipotent", but no, I'm not cheap like yourself
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 26 d
Rune King Thor
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@soratoumiga:
β€’ Prove, using the comics, that Rune King Thor isn't Omnipotent. Rune King Thor transcends all of his Multiverse and can destroy it without much effort. I never said regular Thor transcends time, quit putting words inside my mouth. All I said was that regular Thor can move at a speed that transcends time while Elaine Belloc can only move at a speed faster than light. Prove, using the comics, that Elaine Belloc transcends time, space and is "Infinite-Dimensional." She is supreme over everything in the DC Multiverse. Rune King Thor is supreme over everything in his Multiverse. Considering Rune King Thor and regular Thor transcend Dimensions, yeah, I think they could comprehend the Dimension Elaine Belloc resides in. Prove, using the comics, that Rune King Thor's attacks would not affect Elaine Belloc
β€’ Hyperverse: In which comic does it display Elaine Belloc residing in a Hyperverse?
β€’ Hypertime: So you are talking about things you are not even sure about, huh? Kid, quit speaking out of your a**
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 26 d
Rune King Thor
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No, you said that Thor transcends dimensions, which would mean he AT LEAST transcends time. I don't know what's your point there. Elaine being on a higher dimensional level is shown all throughout Lucifer series, whenever she appears she is in a higher plane of existence. Let me explain it this way, Thor is "omnipotent" in nine universes, Elaine is omnipotent in infinite number of them. Simple. And no, I highly doubt that his mind would even comprehend Elaine's location.
She is way, way more durable than Thor and can withstand thousands attacks from, Mjolnir, for example.
The multiverse, compared to her, is like an ant. (Lucifer #73)
While she was passing through some sh*t, reality deformed and reformed itself (Lucifer #74)
Created her own Multiverse (Lucifer #57)
As you can see, most of her feats are in Lucifer comic book series, so I recommend you to read it.
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It was implied throughout all of the Lucifer series, literally.
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No need for insulting, turns out that I was right.
SirSpidey
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I'm still not convinced that she can defeat Rune King Thor
soratoumiga
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...okay.
She manipulated the realm of the Endless very casually, and the Endless are so far above Rune King Thor, that the gap between is laughable.
She looks down the the universe, as if it was an ant.
She literally creates life all by herself.
She opens gateways from higher dimension to lower dimensions, which implies her being above 5D space.
LordTracer
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Elaine dismantled heaven and hell, and built a new afterlife. (Lucifer #73)
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She became the founder, arbiter and preserver of all creation, which extends far past the multiverse. (Lucifer #69)
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With no effort, she becomes omniscient. (Lucifer #69)
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Stated by The Presence (you know, God) to omnipotent. (Lucifer #75)
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Implied by Lucifer to be able to kill The Great Evil Beast. (Lucifer, Vol. 2 #11)
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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Lol, good job. @LordTracer
SirSpidey
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@soratoumiga: Hmmmm, still not convinced
TheNemianLion
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But you thought about it? So you're considering everything and in the stage of contemplating?
SirSpidey
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@LordTracer: Is Lucifer (2000) even canon to the New 52/Rebirth continuity?
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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Lucifer and Elaine don't even exist in the New 52. Their entire existence is Post-Crisis.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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Please, how can you not be convinced? Lucifer is canon in N52 / Rebirth, btw.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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Is it? Didn't Lucifer appear in New 52?
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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I don't think he did.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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Has Elaine appeared in the New 52/Rebirth?
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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But since Dream of the Endless did appear, I think Lucifer, who is connected to Dream, might have been implied in N52 / Rebirth.
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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No, she has not.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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Anyways, @LordTracer: I'm still not convinced
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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Dream may have appeared, but that would imply that The Endless exist, but not Luci, Mike or Elaine.
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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How are you not convinced?! She literally tore apart Heaven and Hell before rebuilding them to create a new afterlife. God said she was all-powerful. She is the master of all creation. Lucifer thinks she can kill The Great Evil Beast, who was EQUAL TO GOD.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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@LordTracer Yeah, probably only them, but Lucifer will appear soon, I hope
@SirSpidey How are you still not convinced?! A measly three-dimensional "god" can't beat the Goddess of DC, who is sovereign over everything and can casually snap Thor out of existence.
SirSpidey
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@LordTracer: So she is the supreme being of her Multiverse, just like Rune King Thor. She is Omnipotent and Omniscient (I don't know about Omnipresent), Rune King Thor is Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent. They are just as powerful
LordTracer
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Um, no, she transcends the multiverse. All of creation is numerous times larger than the multiverse. And she's omnipresent as well, because she's you know, God.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@soratoumiga: So you are saying Beyonders are less than "3-D"? That is some @soratoumiga scaling for y'all
soratoumiga
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@SirSpidey: Thor has no feats that would put him on or above fourth dimension.
SirSpidey
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@LordTracer: Considering there is literally nothing above Multiversal, when she is said to be able to control creation, we know that it is only the creation inside of her Multiverse. Rune King Thor is the supreme being of his Multiverse as well. Do you see me going around giving Rune King Thor every power that is available on the 'power list'? The answer is NO. So if Elaine Belloc has been shown capable of being Omnipresent, you can give her the ability. If not, then there is no reason to give her the ability
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@soratoumiga: He is the supreme being of his Multiverse
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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So the complex multiverse, hyperverse, outerverse and omniverse just don't exist now? There's several things above the multiverse. Rune King Thor does not have a multiverse. She was shown as being omnipresent in Lucifer #74.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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@SirSpidey That would barely put him on fourth-dimensional scale. Elaine transcends everything in Creation and exists beyond the Multiverse, she is infinite-dimensional, meaning she is beyond 12th dimension.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@LordTracer: Complex Multiverse, Hyperverse, and Outerverse are all terms made up by some random kid on Fandom. So yes, they do not exist. Omniverse is just another word for Multiverse, so as I said, there is nothing above Multiversal. Prove, using the comics, that Rune King Thor doesn't have a Multiverse. Alright, I GUESS Elaine Belloc has Omnipresence
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@soratoumiga: So she is Multiversal, just like Rune King Thor
LordTracer
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The term multiverse was made up as well, so your point is invalid. How about you prove that he does, as I have yet to see you do so.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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@SirSpidey She is outerversal, which is 6 levels above multiversal. It depends on what scaling do you use.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 10 mo 24 d
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Space is an endless limitless frontier, of course there's something above multiversal, hell there's probably something above omniversal.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@LordTracer: Except the term 'Multiverse' has been around for exactly 314 years and was first coined by the great scientist Isaac Newton. Ever since then, the term has been used by numerous other great scientists which implies that it is a very reliable term to use. It has eventually made it's way to the comic book world and is used by most of the writers we know today. It did not come from the brain of some random kid from the internet, rather from world class renowned scientists who have changed the way we look at the world today. So my argument is in fact valid and makes perfectly good sense....unlike someone I know πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰. I already have proved that he does, But that doesn't matter as I asked your first
SirSpidey
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@soratoumiga: I go by what the comics say. Not by whatever some random kid from the internet put on a Fandom forum
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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Since when have you proven that he has a multiverse? If you're referring to the nine realms, that's only multi-universal space, and not even close to the multiversal ranges. And having dominion over something doesn't make you as strong as what you have dominion over. Is a president country level because they're the leader of a country? No.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@TheNemianLion: When has someone destroyed more than a Multiverse?
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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@SirSpidey: No kid wrote that, someone made that term (outerverse) to explain someone's powers to details. Saying a multiversal character is near omniversal character is stupid, but by the logic in the comics, "multiversal" is just one tier below omniversal. Now, someone had an idea to make more terms, i.e. outerverse, hyperverse, complex multiverse etc to explain in details about some character's powers and dimensional limitations. I also must say that VSBW is reliable source of that information, in most cases.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 10 mo 24 d
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Why are you asking me? All I am saying is space rapidly expands and it's limitless.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@LordTracer: Has a president ever physically destroyed a country? No. Has Rune King Thor ever physically destroyed a Multiverse? Yes. That argument is invalid. Rune King Thor's Multiverse exists outside of the mainstream Marvel Multiverse. It was also created by Beyonders which further cements my argument as Beyonders exist outside of the mainstream Marvel Multiverse as well. So yes, according to the comics, Rune King Thor does have his own Multiverse
SirSpidey
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@soratoumiga: Until the terms 'Complex Multiverse', 'Outerverse', and 'Hyperverse' are used by scientists like Isaac Newton, then can you say they are reliable to use
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LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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No, he hasn't. He destroyed the thread that caused RagnarΓΆk. That's not multiversal. There is no "Asgardian Multiverse" and there were no Beyonders in anything related to Rune King Thor. The only piece of "evidence" that supports any Beyonders is Loki thinking that TWSAIS were Beyonders.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@TheNemianLion: Because you said that there are things above Multiversal
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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@SirSpidey Even if I forget about outerverse, hyperverse etc., Thor would still be an ant to Elaine.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 10 mo 24 d
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I'm just an advocate, simply stating my message.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@LordTracer: Rune King Thor destroyed Yggdrasil, the tree that connects all of the Universes in his Multiverse. So yes, Rune King Thor did destroy his Multiverse. And this is the part where the man who did the most research wins the debate. You obviously did not do a sufficient amount of research regarding the Beyonders known as Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. If you did, you would know that In 'Loki: Agent of Asgard #14', Those Who Sit Above In Shadow say, "Nothing you dream of is impossible for us to accomplish!" and "Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours!", repeating, verbatim, what the Beyonder said in his very first appearance in 'Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars #1'. This is no coincidence @LordTracer. The writers are confirming the suspicion that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow are Beyonders
SirSpidey
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@soratoumiga: How so? They are both Multiversal
LordTracer
LordTracer 10 mo 24 d
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You've got to be kidding me. So if Doctor Doom quotes the Beyonders, he's a Beyonder now? If the writers wanted them to be Beyonders, they would have called them f***ing Beyonders.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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@SirSpidey: No, she is far, far, far above multiversal. She can destroy and create an infinite number of universes, without even trying.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@TheNemianLion: And I am just questioning your message. If you don't like that, maybe this site isn't for you
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@LordTracer: How could I possibly be "kidding" you? Considering everything I say comes from the comics, I think it is safe to say that I am not "kidding" you. No, Doctor Doom would not be considered a Beyonder if he quoted them because we already know of his origin and it is that of a human. We do not know the origin of Those Who Sit Above In Shadow (well, we kind of do, but you know...) so if they have ANY similarities with a race of beings, it is the safest bet to conclude that they are affiliated with that race, especially if it is hinted to us more than once. And Those Who Sit Above In Shadow were not simply quoting the Beyonder. There was zero indication, in the way that they said it, that they were knowingly copying what the Beyonder said. What they said came straight from their own mind. And lastly, hey dumba**, you do realize that they actually were called f****** Beyonders, right?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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@soratoumiga: In which comic does Elaine Belloc destroy and create an infinite amount of Universes? Even then, that would still be Multiversal, but....whatever
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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Lucifer #57
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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Nowhere in Lucifer #57 does Elaine Belloc destroy and create an infinite amount of Universes
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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You must have missed something. I know for sure.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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Which page?
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 24 d
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I'm on my phone right now, so I can't check now. I believe it's somewhere near the end.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 24 d
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I'm on my phone as well so it shouldn't change anything
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 23 d
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@SirSpidey: Page 22. You can also look around to see that she existed in a space, where there is no actual space.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 23 d
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And how exactly does the prove that she created and destroyed an infinite amount of Universes? And what does existing in a space where there is no space have to do with literally anything?
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 23 d
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Existing in space where there is no space, puts you above any dimensional limitations you may have. This alone means that she's in dimension, far above the third dimension.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 23 d
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Lol, existing in a space where there is no space merely suggests that you transcend space (something that Mjolnir can do with ease), not every other dimension there is. That is just a ridiculous statement @soratoumiga. Is this debate done now? Because you clearly are incapable of making anymore at least decent arguments
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 10 mo 23 d
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@SirSpidey: Yes, it's done. I can't debate with someone who thinks that a measly three-dimensional being like Thor could ever defeat a goddess of DC. Good luck with your next debates. (You'll need it)
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 23 d
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Thank you!
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 30 d
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Anyone else?
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windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 30 d
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Omnilingualism, Self-sustenance, resurrection, teleportation. Also vaporising beams is redundant as you already have energy beams and blasts.
SirSpidey
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β€’ Omnilingualism: Rune King Thor has the ability, but it is kind of useless so I'll take it off
β€’ Self-Sustenance: Rune King Thor has the ability, but it is kind of useless so I'll take it off
β€’ Resurrection: Throughout all of Thor Volume 2 #84-85, Rune King Thor could have resurrected all of who died during Ragnarok, but instead, he just let Ragnarok go on as he knew that the wise thing to do was let the fallen die a glorious death for one last glorious battle
β€’ Teleportation: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 11 and 12 and Thor Volume 2 #85 Page 10 and 12
β€’ Vaporising Beams are more than Energy Beams as they vaporize anything they touch. But, I'll take off Energy Beams because I think it is a little redundant
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 30 d
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Darkforce manipulation, death touch, Elemental Transmogrification, force fields, heat generation. Can i have answers to these powers?
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SirSpidey
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β€’ Darkforce Manipulation: Journey Into Mystery Volume 1 #101 Page 6
β€’ Death Touch: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 14
β€’ Elemental Transmogrification: Journey Into Mystery Volume 1 #115 Page 14-15
β€’ Force Fields: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 17
β€’ Heat Generation: Rune King Thor has the ability, but it is kind of pointless so I'll take it off
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Thank you for the response
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 30 d
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Can you tell me how controlling the present makes you omnipotent?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 30 d
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You can do whatever you d*** well please
windshadow
windshadow 10 mo 30 d
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then reality warping and time manipulation is redundant if you put omnipotence for that reason.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 30 d
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Those are two completely different abilities
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 30 d
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Any other powers I should take off anyone?
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LordTracer
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Clairvoyance, dimensional awareness, intelligence and enhanced memory are redundant, since he's omniscient.
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Durability, and magic resistance are redundant, because he has invulnerability.
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Levitation is redundant, because he has flight.
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I don't think he has precognition, even if he does, it's still redundant because of omniscience.
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I don't think he has summoning.
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I don't think he has telepathy.
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He doesn't have weapon-based powers.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 10 mo 30 d
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β€’ I took off Clairvoyance, Dimensional Awareness, Intelligence, Enhanced Memory, Durability, Precognition, and Levitation. I think Magic Resistance needs to stay as it is more specific. For instance, Superman is invulnerable, but is weak to Magic.
β€’ Summoning - Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 18
β€’ Telepathy - Thor Volume 2 #85 Page 10
β€’ Weapon-Based Powers - Mjolnir
Sa
Sadkat 11 mo 14 h 45 m
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Why is Rune King Thor above everyone? So you mean The Presence and One Above All, both of them are weaker than RKT?
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SirSpidey
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He is the supreme being of his Multiverse, just like The One Above All, the Presence, Man of Miracles, etc. He shouldn't be above the characters I mentioned above, I just think scaling is wrong on this site. If there are any powers I should take off, please let me know
windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 2 d
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Mxy is not omnipotent. The comics CLEARLY say that he is a 5th dimensional NIGH OMNIPOTENT imp.
Soulcollecter57
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The term, Plot Induced Stupidity, has been use a lot on this character page.
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soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 6 d
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I agree. I don't why though.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 6 d
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@soratoumiga: Lol, maybe because haters like you try and find the lamest way to dismiss the true power of Rune King Thor
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 6 d
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@SirSpidey Lol, the true power of Rune King Thor doesn't even exceed the power of Franklin Richards, for example. RKT is not a PIS, because he actually has average power level, below people like Scarlet Witch, Franklin Richards and similar.
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soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 6 d
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Lmao, you're wrong. Just wrong. First, Thor has NEVER EVER destroyed a Multiverse, if you think about so-called "Asgardian Multiverse", that's not even a thing, that's like 9 universes. On the other hand, Franklin at his peak made Galactus his pet and defeated 3 Celestials, while Wanda at her peak threatened to destroy the WHOLE Multiverse. Not just 9 universes, but thousands and millions of them. So in conclusion, don't even compare him to her or Franklin, Thor is out of their league absolutely.
TheSuspect666
TheSuspect666 11 mo 6 d
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Agree with @SirSpidey with the hate thing! sora just hate Thor cuz he is more than SW change my mind!
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 6 d
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@TheSuspect666 When will you admit defeat? I have shown you countless times that Wanda is above Thor. Especially House of M version. HoM Wanda has the power of the LIFE FORCE, a sentient power source capable of defeating BEYONDER. Thor is nothing to Beyonder, so he's nothing to SW. Simple.
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Children's Crusade #7
House of M #7
Uncanny Avengers #4
Scarlet Witch #14
Uncanny X-Men #462
Justice923
Justice923 11 mo 7 d
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Wind shadow please vote ustats on the fallen megatron is prime please
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windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 7 d
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?
windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 7 d
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oh ok. nvm. i found it
windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 7 d
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ok i did it.
ManofPower
ManofPower 11 mo 7 d
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@Spidey do you have exact proof that runs king Thor is Omnipotent ?
Nothing PIS. I want to see if it is true or not😁
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 6 d
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"The magic of the Runes and wisdom from the Well of Mimir give Thor the power to know the past, TO CONTROL THE PRESENT, and guide the future!"
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 6 d
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@ManofPower If Thor is omnipotent, that would PIS by itself. He is not God. Here we go, with "control the present", which any reality warper and/or time manipulator can do
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 6 d
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You are right, Rune King Thor isn't just a god. Rune King Thor is the god of the gods of gods of gods. Reality warpers and time manipulators can only merely warp/manipulate the present, not control it like Rune King Thor can
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 6 d
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Thor is Legion-level. He is multi-universal, like him. If he is a god of the gods of gods of gods, he would be outerversal.
windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 7 d
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https://fictional-battle-omniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Rune_King_Thor
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SirSpidey
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And these are the exact articles that pollute people's minds with absolute bulls***. Not only does the article not give any comic book evidence of the claims they make, but the person who made it came up with their own s***, which means the article is not reliable, nor valid for that matter. @windshadow, the only thing you are doing when posting these unreliable articles is proving to us that you cannot come up with an argument on your own and that you just use the information that some random kid from the internet put on a wiki site that has no correlation with the comics. Sorry, but you are going to have to have much, much better evidence than this
windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 7 d
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He was said to be omniscient, but never was he said to be omnipotent. Many characters such as TOAA have been described as omnipotent but only a few of them are ACTUALLY omnipotent as they say they are. Odin has been said to be omnipotent occasionally, but he very clearly isn't. Rune King Thor is a being more powerful than even Odin, someone who has one shot Silver Surfer and taken out Thanos. So compared to a character like the Hulk or Sentry, he is omnipotent, but compared to someone on the same power level as Galactus or the Phoenix Force, he's not omnipotent. But you tell me @Spidey, how IS he omnipotent?
windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 7 d
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RKT has never demonstrated omnipotence. The best he's done is destroy Those Who Sit Above In Shadows, erase mangog and rip Loki's head off. The best abilities he has demonstrated is to shatter dimensional barriers, destroy indestructible matter and
stop time. If I were to be generous, I would say he has demonstrated universe-level omnipotence making him nigh-omnipotent(when he actually isn't).
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 6 d
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"The magic of the Runes and wisdom from the Well of Mimir give Thor the power to know the past, TO CONTROL THE PRESENT, and guide the future!"
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Amirvel 11 mo 7 d
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Why the heck is he more powerful than the one above all?
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windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 7 d
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Spidey added more powers than he should have such as omnipotence etc.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
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I like how you could only list one power. Can you even prove that Rune King Thor isn't Omnipotent?
windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 8 d
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These are his actual powers:
Odin Force
Reality Warping
Dimension Awareness and Travel
Energy Manipulation
Molecule Manipulation
Time Manipulation
Telepathy
Immortality
Longevity
Toxin and Disease Resistance
Invulnerability
Endurance
Durability
Superhuman Strength and Speed
Omnipresence
Dimensional Travel
Duplication
Flight
Omniscience
Dimensional Awareness
Precognition
Superhuman Sight
Telescopic Sight
Microscopic Sight
Enchanced Hearing, Sight and Senses
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windshadow
windshadow 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
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He is NOT omnipotent. Not even nigh omnipotent.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Well that is a great list for someone who didn't even read the comics. Prove that Rune King Thor isn't Omnipotent
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Actually yeah, just did some more research, he is omnipotent
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DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
He is only Night-Omniscient though I think
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
How is he even nigh-omnipotent?
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
The knowing of the runes, magic called scid by the Norse, could divine the future and cast spells upon the now.
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Soz I don't know much on RKT I only want proof for these powers
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Banish
Death Touch
Immortality
Reality Warping
Resurrection
Molecular Manipulation
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
β€’ Banish: Thor Volume 1 #425 Page 21
β€’ Death Touch: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 14
β€’ Immortality: Thor Volume 2 #84 Pages 6-7
β€’ Reality Warping: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 20
β€’ Resurrection: Throughout all of Thor Volume 2 #84-85, Rune King Thor could have resurrected all of who died during Ragnarok, but instead, he just let Ragnarok go on as he knew that the wise thing to do was let the fallen die a glorious death for one last glorious battle
β€’ Molecular Manipulation: When Rune King Thor ripped Loki's head off and no blood came out, it could be classified as molecular manipulation. Other than that, regular Thor has other molecular manipulation feats if you want them
Am
Amirvel 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Way too OP
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
What powers should I take off then?
Jakcj
Jakcj 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@Sirspidey i'm going have to disagree that he isn't omnipotent.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
-Super Breath?
-Molecular Immobilization?
-Omnipotence (Not sure about the other two but this one is for sure)
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@Jakcj: Great!
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@IMABATMAN42 (now watch and learn as this is how you are suppose to prove what you say is true, not using out of context scans):
β€’ Super Breath: Journey Into Mystery #85
β€’ Molecular Immobilization: Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 19
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Ok, I wasn't sure about those powers, sorry. But he shouldn't have Omnipotence, the only being with TRUE Omnipotence, in Marvel anyway, is TOAA.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
How so?
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Well do you think he could stalemate TOAA?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Considering Rune King Thor is the supreme being of his Multiverse, yeah I think he could stalemate The One Above All
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Please, please, tell me you're kidding
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Nope. Instead of bickering, how about you prove me wrong
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
The only thing even slightly hinting at RKT being omnipotent is a STATEMENT, you know who else has statements like that, ODIN, GALACTUS, PHOENIX, possibly countless others, do you think they could stalemate TOAA?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
No, because they have never been shown to destroy a Multiverse
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
How does Rune King Thor have any chance of even comprehending One-Above-All's powers, let alone stalemating him in a fight?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
He is Omniscient and Omnipotent
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
So? He isn't truly omnipotent, if he was, he would be able to do anything, such as killing Beyonders, Living Tribunal and similar beings. Also, he isn't a supreme being of the Multiverse, TOOA is, Thor doesn't even come close. TOOA's location transcends the Multiverse, but he still controls it through omnipresence.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
You know, I usually would have asked you to prove what you just said using comics, but I remembered that you proved yourself incapable of doing that. So I'll decrease my level of conciousness down to the level of noobs like yourself. I find it ironic you mentioned Rune King Thor not defeating Beyonders whenever in reality, Rune King Thor defeated a race of Beyonders known as 'Those Who Sit Above In Shadow'. Rune King Thor is the Supreme being of the Asgardian Multiverse, The One Above All is the supreme being of the Earthen Multiverse
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Your statements right there are full of things that are incorrect.
First, when we were debating about Lucifer vs Thor WAHP, I sent at least 10 scans proving Lucifer is beyond Thor's league, however, you dismissed them as if they were nothing. On the other hand, you sent me zero scans or issues proving Thor is above Lucifer. You lost that debate 10/10.
Second, if I'm a noob, you're are even below me on that matter.
Third, Those Who Sit Above In The Shadow are a mysterious race, and it is not yet confirmed if they are as powerful as the Beyonders, which they 100% are not, because if they were, Thor would get shitstomped by them,
Fourth, Asgardian Multiverse is not even a thing, Asgardian Multiverse is barely multi-universal, not even close to being multiversal, so whoever is at low multiversal scale in power and above can defeat Rune King Thor easily
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Someone needs to remove omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
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LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
RKThor is omniscient and omnipresent. He's just not omnipotent.
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Oh, so then someone needs to remove omnipotent.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
How is he not Omnipotent? He literally knows the past, controls the present, and guides the future
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Give me scans please.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-1998/Issue-84?id=8363
10earthquakes
10earthquakes 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
There was an error. I couldn't find it.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Well at least you know what I am saying is true
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@SirSpidey Just took a quick read I only saw that he is omnipresent can you please tell me what page that was on because I think I missed it
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Thor Volume 2 #84 Page 4
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
The only thing I see related to that is "The knowing of the runes, magic called scid by the Norse, could divine the future and cast spells upon the now." I mean I guess that makes him omnipotent, not 100% sure though
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Read the first panel on the next page. "The magic of the Runes and wisdom from the Well of Mimir give Thor the power to know the past, to control the present, and guide the future!"
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@Galactus: Why is he so much higher than Ellaine Belloc whenever they have almost the exact same powers?
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LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Dawg, you gave him nearly double the amount of powers Elaine has. Why do you think he's so much higher?
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Comparing Rune King Thor to Elaine Belloc, is like comparing an ant (Thor) to a Galactus ( Elaine)
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@LordTracer: Oh shit, didn't realize that. What powers should I take off
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@soratoumiga: So in that case, Rune King Thor can defeat Elaine Belloc in one blast? Alright, I'm fine with that
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
That's the exact opposite from what I'm saying, unless you think an ant can defeat Galactus. He has 471 points, which is more than TOOA and Elaine have combined
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
It already happened. Thor #161, read it and be humbled
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Darkforce manipulation, death touch, elemental transmogrification, levitation, molecular dissipation, omnipotence, timeframe control and wishing.
A lot of these are sunsets of powers he already has (for example, timeframe control is a part of time manipulation), and I don't recall him using things like darkforce manipulation, death touch and wishing.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
It already happened? An ant defeated Galactus? I gotta see that!
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@LordTracer
β€’ Darkforce Manipulation: Journey Into Mystery #101
β€’ Death Touch: Thor Volume 2 #84
β€’ Elemental Transmogrification: Journey Into Mystery #115
β€’ Molecular Dissipation: Yeah, I don't know why I put this one down
β€’ Omnipotence: He controls the present as explained in Thor Volume 2 #84
β€’ Timeframe Control: Could you give me a very detailed explanation of what exactly this ability is? I thought I had a good understanding, but I just want to make sure
β€’ Wishing: Rune King Thor borderline has this ability, but it isn't clear. I'll take it off
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Darkforce Manipulation - I didn't see him use any dark energy.
Death Touch - Oh, I thought he fired a beam at Mangog to kill him. So, when did he use vaporizing beams?
Elemental Transmogrification - Thor didn't transform into any elements, which is what this power is.
Omnipotence - Any time manipulator can "manipulate the present." It doesn't make him all-powerful.
Timeframe Control - The user slows down all time except themselves, which gives the illusion of super speed. It's a subset of time manipulation.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
β€’ Darkforce Manipulation: It's on page 6. "See how my hammer head glows with the untapped power of the Nether Worlds..."
β€’ Vaporizing Beams: Page 2 of Thor Volume 2 #85
β€’ Elemental Transmogrification: He didn't transform HIS body, but he transformed the Absorbing Man's body into Helium
β€’ Omnipotence: There is a vast difference between manipulating and actually controlling the present
β€’ Timeframe Control: Okay, nevermind. I did not know what that was. I'll take it off
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Darkforce Manipulation - It looks more like pyrokinesis to me.
Vaporizing Beams - Okay, so he does have vaporizing beams.
Elemental transmogrification - Yeah, he has that too.
Omnipotence - It still doesn't make him all-powerful. And a time manipulator can still control the present.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
β€’ Darkforce Manipulation: Nevertheless, Thor tapped into the power of the Nether Worlds
β€’ Omnipotence: If he can literally do whatever he d*** well pleases, then yeah, I'm pretty sure he is classified as being Omnipotent. He literally proves it throughout his entire run as well. Oh, so a time manipulator all of a sudden turns into a present controller!? Just to satisfy the needs of your argument!? C'mon now @LordTracer, that is not how it works
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Omnipotence - Since the present is a period in time, yes, a time manipulator can control the present. And there's also the fact that RKThor cannot be omnipotent, as he is not the Supreme Being of the Marvel universe.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
β€’ Omnipotence: Last time I checked, time manipulators couldn't do whatever they wanted like Rune King Thor can. Rune King Thor is the supreme being of the Asgardian Universes which are separate from the Marvel Earth Universe
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
It still exists within the Marvel multiverse, ergo, Thor is not the Supreme Being. There is only one true omnipotent in Marvel, and that is The One-Above-All.
Jakcj
Jakcj 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
The Presence.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
In that case, Abraxas, Beyonder, Franklin Richards, Living Tribunal, and Tyrant do not need to have Omnipotence. Two characters can both be Omnipotent and one of them being capable of defeating the other. There are more aspects you have to factor in than just Omnipotence
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
@Jackj IN MARVEL. I said in Marvel.
@SirSpidey Exactly. None of them are omnipotent, so they shouldn't have the power. The only time there can be more than one omnipotent being is if the Supreme Being makes an avatar, such as The Fulcrum.
Jakcj
Jakcj 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@Lordtracer names Jake.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
No, Rune King Thor still has Omnipotence
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
For what reason? He is not omnipotent, and he's not even nigh-omnipotent.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
He is the supreme being of his Multiverse considering the fact that Asgard, Vanaheim, Alfheim, etc. are separate from the mainstream Multiverse
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Then he's multiversal. Still not omnipotent.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Also because Rune King Thor knows the past, controls the present, and guides the future
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
That still doesn't make him omnipotent. Again, a time manipulator can know the past, control the present and guide the future as well.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
What do you mean? If you are the supreme being of your Multiverse, you are Omnipotent
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
But they can't do whatever they please like Rune King Thor. We already went over this @LordTracer
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
No, there's several things higher than a multiverse. And Rune King Thor cannot do whatever he pleases, as nothing in the comic says he can.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Who? Who is above Multiversal? "The magic of the Runes and wisdom from the Well of Mimir give Thor the power to know the past, to control the present, and guide the future!" So yes, Rune King Thor can do whatever he pleases. He even admitted he could have brought Ragnarok back to normal if he wanted
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
It would take me ages to list all the Marvel characters above multiversal, but here's a few: The Living Tribunal, The Beyonder, Eternity, Dormammu, The Multi-Abstracts, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Protege, Galactus (Well Fed), High-Level Celestials, and of course, The One-Above-All.
That statement does not mean he's omnipotent. If the writers wanted to make Thor omnipotent, they would have said something like; "The magic of the Runes and wisdom from the Well of Mimir make Thor allmighty, the most powerful being in creation."
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
When have those characters destroyed more than a Multiverse? I think the writers thought being able to control the present was good enough. They never expected haters like you to question it
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
First off, I love Thor. He's one of my favorite Marvel characters, so don't call me a hater. Secondly, controlling the present still does not make you omnipotent. Thirdly, their very existence transcends the multiverse. And TOAA has no boundaries like the multiverse.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
How does doing whatever you please not make you Omnipotent? In which comic does it say that their very existence transcends the Multiverse? In which comic does it say The One Above All has no boundaries. Plus, if it is true that The One Above All has no boundaries, it is the same deal with Rune King Thor
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 8 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
That's not what I said. I said controlling the present doesn't make you omnipotent.
All of those characters transcend the multiverse via scaling from The Ultimate Nullifier, which was used to defeat Abraxas, who casually wiped out every Galactus (all of whom are multi-universal). All of the entities I stated are above the UN, some far above it.
Are... are you serious? I'm seriously concerned about your mental stability now. You basically just asked the question; "How does God not have any boundaries?" The One-Above-All is the representation of the writers of Marvel, who have complete and total dominion over the comics, making him boundless within them.
You just said Rune King Thor was multiversal. Make up your mind.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Controlling the present....also known as doing whatever you please.
Prove that the beings you listed above are more powerful than the Ultimate Nullifier.
In which comic does it say The One Above All is the representation of the writers of Marvel?
If you are Multiversal, you are Omnipotent as no one is above Multiversal.
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
It's not the same thing.
Simply, the UN is a part of Galactus, making it equal to a fully fed Galactus. Eternity, Dormammu, The LT, TOAA, etc. are far above Galactus.
Fantastic Four #511, they meet TOAA, who appears to them as Jack Kirby.
Incorrect. Multiversal is the limit to your power. The definition of omnipotent says unlimited power. Ergo, they transcend the multiverse.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Lol, are you done now? You clearly don't have the ability to make an at least decent argument.
Galactus doesn't always use the Ultimate Nullifier. Also, in which comic have Eternity, Dormammu, The Living Tribunal, The One Above All, etc. defeated Galactus?
How does The One Above All having the appearance of Jack Kirby (a drawer who didn't create any Marvel comics to my knowledge) mean he is the representation of the writers of Marvel? That makes zero logical sense.
In which comic does it say The One Above All transcends the Multiverse?
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
You're the one who has no argument. Controlling the present is something any time manipulator can do.
And? It's a part of him. Also, have you taken your meds? Are you seriously questioning how THE LIVING TRIBUNAL AND GOD can beat Galactus?
In case you forgot, Jack Kirby and Stan Lee created most of Marvel.
Oh, my... you're actually insane. He's God. He has no limits. He transcends the multiverse, quantumverse, hyperverse, outerverse and omniverse.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
C'mon @LordTracer, are we in the 3rd grade!? The Presidential Debate!? "No, you are the puppet!" Lol, grow up kid. And yes, I do have an argument and I have been using it literally this entire time. Because Rune King Thor controls the present, he is Omnipotent. Last time I checked time manipulators couldn't do whatever they wanted like Rune King Thor. We have already been over this @LordTracer.
What do you mean, "And?" My penis is a part of me, do I go around using it all the time? The answer is NO. Unless of course I am a maniac, which Galactus of course is not. Thanks for proving you are incapable of proving your argument fact. I know the Living Tribunal and The One Above All can defeat Galactus, I'm just asking in which comic it says or displays the Living Tribunal and The One Above All being more powerful than the Ultimate Nullifier.
In case you forgot, Jack Kirby merely drew most of Marvel's characters, he did not create them or come up with the idea of them.
Thanks for proving that you are incapable of proving your argument fact. Great job @LordTracer. If you can't prove The One Above All transcends the Multiverse, just admit it
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
You clearly don't, as controlling the present is not the same as being all-powerful.
You're still questioning how God is stronger than an object. God > everything. That's just common knowledge.
He's God. Like I said, God > everything.
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@SirSpidey Are you seriously questioning an omnipotent character's omnipotence? Every sane person, who knows at least about Marvel, should know TOOA is omnipotent and unbeatable, it's just common sense
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@LordTracer: That's it? Man, you really are completely shutting down. If you can do whatever you d*** well please, I'm pretty sure you are Omnipotent.
In which comic does it say The One Above All is "God?"
LordTracer
LordTracer 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
2 year member
Except he can't, as nothing says he can.
The TOAA is stated to be "the author of all that is," by Thanos: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/5toIS8beuNO-7LlNYrMPU83GuiC-1riWqNRCzyDYr6q48OEXAXBA_tBWlcqKJKk8QVzkh0NQE-oJ=s0
And, in a statement from TOAA himself, she says that it is all-powerful: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/3/3c/TOAA_ultimates2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170821104615
And finally, in the Marvel Handbook, there's a section about TOAA and OAA, and TOAA is described as the Supreme Being of the Marvel omniverse: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/9/9e/HandbookOmni.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170211093617
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Mxy can do what he damn well pleases, including toying with the MULTIVERSE.
IMABATMAN42
IMABATMAN42 11 mo 7 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
IS HE OMNIPOTENT, huh?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 5 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@soratoumiga: I never said The One Above All could be beaten or is not Omnipotent. Quit putting words in my mouth. I just said Rune king Thor is just as powerful as The One Above All
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 5 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Rune King Thor is a mere ant to the One-Above-All. He can never stalemate him, not even if he has he whole roster of Avengers, Justice League, X-Men and Living Tribunal on his side.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 4 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@LordTracer: What the f***!? Did you not read the part where the comics says, "The magic of the Runes and wisdom from the Well of Mimir give Thor the power to know the past, TO CONTROL THE PRESENT, and guide the future!?" I think this part of the debate is finished as you clearly cannot come up with a decent argument.
As for your first scan, it won't work. Maybe because it has an emoji in the middle? Anyways, even if Thanos said The One Above All is the author of all that is, using your logic, because you think Thanos overrates his own abilities, it wouldn't be any different when Thanos talks about other characters abilities. So that is not a reliable statement not only because it was from such an "arrogant" character like Thanos, but also because Thanos is not Omniscient.
As for your second scan, what the f*** is this? Is this suppose to be from a comic? Because it surely doesn't look like it. Do you know what will help this problem out? GIVE ME THE ACTUAL COMIC. Plus, even if The One Above All did say that he is "all-powerful", the same goes for Rune King Thor as he controls the present. Also, you have yet to prove that The One Above All is Omniscient, so we don't know if what he said is true or not.
As for your third scan, that is a false statement as The One Above All is not the supreme being of DC, or Image, or Darkhorse, or etc. Your going to need better evidence than that. Also, which handbook was this in, I'm curious?
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 3 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@IMABATMAN42: If he is shown capable of destroying a Multiverse, then yeah, Myx is Omnipotent
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 3 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@soratoumiga: I've proven what I have said fact, now I think it is your turn to do the same because all you have been doing is making false claims
soratoumiga
soratoumiga 11 mo 2 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
@SirSpidey Common sense tells us that TOOA is far above any version of Thor. Multiply his power by 100 he still isn't even near TOOA. If you don't trust me, then ask literally anyone else who has some knowledge about comic books, he/she'll tell you exactly what I said.
Hawkinz
Hawkinz 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Woah
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Lol, is it too much? 😬😬😬
Hawkinz
Hawkinz 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
So do you think virtually no one can defeat base Thor? I'm curious. Who in your opinion defeats Thor? Not characters like TOAA or The Presence.
Hawkinz
Hawkinz 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
It's not too much for me I guess, since you know the character more than me.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Not many characters can defeat Rune King Thor as he literally, as stated in the comics, has "the power to know the past, to control the present, and guide the future. So you tell me who could beat him
Hawkinz
Hawkinz 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
I'm talking about base Thor not Rune King Thor.
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Oh, sorry. I don't know, maybe some reality warpers? Basically anyone who is above Death in power can defeat Thor
Jakcj
Jakcj 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Well ill just ignore this character.
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SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
Why would you do that?
Galactus
Galactus 11 mo 11 d
Rune King Thor
10+ year member
@SirSpidey is in charge of this character. He added Omni-everything as his powers.
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jongensoden
jongensoden 11 mo 11 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
galactus he edited the usstas
Galactus
Galactus 11 mo 11 d
Rune King Thor
10+ year member
He didn't. The uStat are connected to the Superpowers that are selected for a character. He selected Omnipotence etc. that bumps up the uStats.
jongensoden
jongensoden 11 mo 11 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
an the real class
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Yea for me the real class just says the Update Request thingy
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 10 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Are you saying that these powers shouldn't be here and that he did it to buff up the stats? (Don't know anything on RKT, just curious what you were trying to say)
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 11 mo 9 d
Rune King Thor
3 year member
@Galactus: I mean, I can prove Rune King Thor has performed every power I listed for him using the comics. If that is what you are getting at
DarkProdigy
DarkProdigy 11 mo 11 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
Uh Spidey for some reason you edited the uSTATS
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banboy38 1 y 1 mo 17 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
get this man an update
DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 y 4 mo 16 d
Rune King Thor
1 year member
PLEASE UPDATE