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Created by jongensoden, 3 mo 25 d ago.

Rank justice league and Avengers together

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Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 10 d
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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Where did you get that from? There's quite a few things wrong with that list including the people even there
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 9 d
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That's my own list.
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 9 d
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Also, it is based on AP.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 9 d
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What's AP?
LordTracer
LordTracer 1 mo 9 d
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It means Attack Potency.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 9 d
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Some of those people aren't Avengers
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 9 d
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@Tyrannus: They have been an Avenger at least on one occasion. Namor was one of the main characters in New Avengers and he has been shown as an Avenger many times during Hickman's era. I don't remember the issue but Jughernaut has been an avenger too.
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 12 d
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strength
1. Hulk
2. Hercules (Marvel)
3. Thor
4. Superman
5. Martian Manhunter
6. Wonder Woman
7. Every Green Lantern
Speed
1. Flash/Silver Surfer
2. Quicksilver
3. Spider-Man
4. Batman
Skill
1. Elektra/Lady SHiva
2. Batman/Daredevil/Captain America/Black Panther
3. Nightwing/Spider-Man
4. Joker/Bullseye
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Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 12 d
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Hercules isn't stronger than Thor, they're equals in strength, and Thor has strength feats that Herc can't even dream of doing such as stalemating Hulk for an hour or pushing a tree that connects entire the Multiverse.
DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 mo 11 d
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Your speed section is way off.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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Why is Batman the forth fastest being?
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 10 d
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Flash is faster than silver surfer
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 9 d
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LMAO
DevyEZ
DevyEZ 1 mo 9 d
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Uhm... yes he is.
_Holy_Joe_
_Holy_Joe_ 1 mo 9 d
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@EmptyHand But not stronger and tougher than him. He's just outclassed in everything else.
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 9 d
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Flash isn't as fast as surfer
I put Batman as the 4th as the last part
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EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 9 d
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Can you prove he's not faster?
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 9 d
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Batman isn't as fast as nightwing, he's below nightwing
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 mo 12 d
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In terms of Power, Speed, Skill and everything destructive from power/powers alone, not Hax or anything

1. The Hulk
2. Red Hulk
2. Thor
3. Hercules
4. Shazam
5. Captain Atom
6. Sentry
7. Martain Manhunter
8. Nova
9. Black Bolt
10. Doctor Strange
11. Scarlet Witch
12. Zatanna
13. Superman
14. Gladiator
15. Hyperion
16. Powergirl
17. Captain Universe
18. Green Lantern (Hal)
19. Dr Fate
20. Ares
21. Orion
22. Wonder Woman
23. She Hulk
24. Steel
25. Supergirl
26. Wonderman
27. Captain Marvel
28. Starfire
29. Quasar
30. Blue Beetle
31. Jocasta
32. Hawkman
33. Hawkgirl
34. Superboy
35. Storm
36. Aquaman
37. Human Torch
38 Flash
39. Captain Britain
40. Valkyrie
41. Namor
42. Thing
43. Mera
44. Vision
45. Cyborg
46. Luke Cage
47. Ironman
48. Black Lightning
49. Red Tornado
50. Fire
51. Ice
52. Vixen
53. Iron Fist
54. Black Canary
55. Jessica Jones
56. Spider Woman
57. Spiderman
58. Captain America
59. Batman
60. Hawkeye
61. Green Arrow
62. Black Widow
63. Red Arrow
64. Nightwing
65. Mockingbird
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TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 mo 12 d
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This is my view by the way, don't crucify me if you disagree with my views or get offended.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 12 d
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Ok i'm sorry to interject, but how in the world is Hulk above Doctor Fate, Doctor Strange, Captain Atom, and Martian Manhunter? How is Flash below Steel and BLUE BEETLE? Not trying to crucify you, but I have no idea how you'd go about justifying that.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 mo 12 d
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Because Hulk's high showings trump Doctor Fate's, who is rather inconsistent, I already had this debate before why Hulk beats Fate, and another why Hulk beats Strange, and regardless, this is based off POWER OUTPUT AND SPEED, not hax, Captain Atom and Martain Manhunter do not come close to Hulk's higher tier destructive feats, destroying all of time and space, causing cataclysmic upheaval over an infinite number of dimensions, clapping away a cosmos of universes, etc. Because Steel can tangle with Kryptonians and Flash is the most wanked character in the history of comics, guys like Thor even have better speed feats (For example moving faster than time itself) Also, Blue Beetle is a Green Lantern tier character, before you make statements, please know the characters.

And before you claim Hulk is just a slow brawler, he was able to hit Silver Surfer out of space flying full speed ahead, keep up with Thor, who we already know how fast he is, even Warriors Madness Thor, Hulk has kept up with Sentry, Gladiator and Hyperion's speed as well, so no, Superman, Manhunter, etc aren't gonna beat Hulk more often than not, they literally have no way of permanently putting him down, period.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 11 d
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Unless Hulk can stalemate an unbound spectre, then there's no way he's on Dr Fate's level. Flash is not the most wanked in the history of comics, that's a pretty bold statement to make. Flash moves and thinks faster than time on a regular basis. I know plenty about Blue beetle. Even if he is green lantern tier which is a bit of a stretch, Flash exceeds that ten fold. What else can Hulk do besides Punch really hard or clap? He doesn't have reality warping or magical powers, so how would he even come close to Fate or Strange who could just blink him out of existence? This list is laughably inaccurate, tbh.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 11 d
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I feel bad for basically doing exactly what you asked for everybody not to do, lol. Just couldn't resist replying. No hard feelings haha
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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He said it's based on "Power, Speed, Skill and everything destructive from power/powers alone, not Hax or anything" so according to that the list makes sense. Also there's far more to the Hulk then just punching and clapping. Having more powers doesn't make you better.
pedrofOMAIOR
pedrofOMAIOR 1 mo 13 d
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Star Wars power level
1-The Bedlam Spirits
2-The Chosen One
3-Force Gosts
4-The Father Of Mortis
5-Mnggal-Mnggal
6-The Force Priestesses
7-Abeloth (Full power)
8-The Son Of Mortis and The Daughter Of Mortis
9-The Waru
10-Luke Skywalker(Full Power)
BlotskyA
BlotskyA 1 mo 19 d
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Justice power level
1 BatmanFlash
2 Martian Manhunter
3 Wonder Woman
4 Superman
5 Cyborg
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DeanDinosaur6
DeanDinosaur6 1 mo 19 d
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How is Superman below Wonder Woman and how are Flash and Batman number 1?
Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 20 d
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The Avengers lineup from Avengers (2018), #1:
#1 Doctor Strange
#2 Thor
#3 Ghost Rider (Robbie)
#4 Captain Marvel (Carol)
#5 She-Hulk
#6 Iron-Man
#7 Black Panther
#8 Captain America
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 19 d
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The Immortal Hulk debuted in 2018 and he soloed the Avengers so that list if missing him.
Breaker
Breaker 1 mo 19 d
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@Tyr is this a list about the team it's like rank team avengers and rank team JL

immortal hulk is not even on avengers lol he did beat them all
jongensoden
jongensoden 1 mo 19 d
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Robbie is fodder
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 19 d
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@Breaker Wasn't Hulk still part of the Avengers in when he came back in the No Road Home story? Before anyone says, I'm not the one who downvoted.
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Clint_Barton
Clint_Barton 1 mo 18 d
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@Jon is he though? Is that why he put a good fight against members of Final Host Celestials and oneshotted Zombie Celestials? Or is it why he stalemated She-Hulk?
Scarlet_Witch_Stomps
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Wanda >>> Rest
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jongensoden
jongensoden 1 mo 20 d
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Yus
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 20 d
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Going to upvote that
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 19 d
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Who downvoted @jongensoden? That makes no sense.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 21 d
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1. The Flash
2. Superman
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Thor
5. Wonder Woman
6. Green Lantern
7. Hulk
8. Aquaman
9. Iron Man
10. Batman
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 21 d
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Hulk is far too low and would beat all those above him especially GL.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 20 d
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Somehow i knew you'd be the one to comment. You massively overrate the hulk, to the point of absurdity. I'm not even getting into it with you.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 20 d
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For some reason you hate him. Not even sure why just because I listen to the facts.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 20 d
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I absolutely don't. I just don't like when people highball him to oblivion.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 20 d
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I'm not highballing him either. Hulk gets stronger. I've never had that challenged. You need to understand who the Hulk really is
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Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 20 d
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That's literally your only argument. I am well aware of hulk getting angrier and therefore stronger, but that doesn't make him unbeatable. Thor has beaten him plenty of times, for instance. Ask @Dark_wing
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 20 d
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There are others but I don't want to keep repeating myself. Hulk's beaten Thor, your point? You don't need Dark_Wing to fight your battles.
jongensoden
jongensoden 1 mo 20 d
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Flash is to high
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 20 d
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What do you mean "repeat yourself", you haven't listed one other argument to date. I'm just pointing out that Thor has beaten him, proving he isn't unbeatable. Wing has a lot of scans you could go look at, that's why i mentioned him. Nobody's fighting my battles, nice try.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 20 d
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@jon Want to debate that
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 20 d
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I've repeated myself about the Hulk so many times. Don't want to keep individually telling everyone the exact same things. Don't claim I haven't made any points just because you haven't been able to look at any. I've never claimed Hulk is unbeatable, no one is. I know about Dark_Wing scans because they're usually in reply to me. How have you not seen them? You are trying to get Dark_Wing to fight your battles by using him instead of coming up with your own points but nice try.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 20 d
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I haven't seen another argument yet. Anytime someone brings something up, you just say "But hulk gets stronger." Oh, i'm not doing that at all. He's the Thor expert who has all the scans, so i just meant go look at some of his comments.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 19 d
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I've given so many arguments on Hulk vs battle you only need to look. I usually say Hulk gets stronger because that the short version.I'd say I'm the Hulk expert but @Breaker knows a bit more. I don't need to look at his Thor comments because 9/10 they're replies to ME. I'm surprised you know about Dark_Wing's Thor comments but you've conveniently never seen any on the Hulk.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 mo 12 d
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"I am the Hulk expert but Breaker knows a little bit more" Boy I was reading Hulk comics before the both of you knew how to spell your own names... But yes Hulk beats everyone on this list more often than not, you could make the comment that Superman would 'Lobotomise him' but really that won't do a lot considering Hulk had been burnt to nearly a skeleton before and had his head cut off before (And grew a new one) so I don't know what you think Superman really is gonna do, also 'Superman could throw Hulk to the sun' one, no he couldn't, if Hulk doesn't want to be moved, Superman ain't doing it, getting Hulk off ground would be struggle enough, two, Hulk has already withstood the weight of the sun on his back and he was only brought to his knees, and this isn't even close to his higher showings, Superman is wanked to the moon. But no Hulk is not unbeatable and will lose if the story requires him to lose, however as a character, no hero tops him. Unless you're a cosmic being like Thanos, Galactus, etc, you can and probably will lose to the Hulk.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 12 d
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Hulk doesn't take the majority vs Superman or Flash. The claim that NO hero tops him is absurd. I'd love to see how you'd justify hulk being above the likes of Doctor Fate and Doctor Strange, the Spectre, White Lantern Hal, Flash, Doctor Manhattan, Martian Manhunter, Pre-Crisis Superman, Ghost Rider, etc.
TheNemianLion
TheNemianLion 1 mo 12 d
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Comics dictate that the Hulk does take the majority against Supes and Flash, and you have no standpoint because you clearly don't read comicbooks, you're not really anyone that can be taken seriously if you think Flash is above Superman, much less Hulk. How is it absurd? Please demonstrate why or you have no arguments, I've already had the Hulk VS Fate argument on discord, that Hulk's Multiversal or higher feats outweigh Fate's, and same story with Strange. White Lantern Hal hasn't been able to do anything like destroy a space time continuum, or cause destruction over an infinite number of dimensions. same story with everyone after that and GHOST RIDER!? HAHAHA! Mountain tier Ghostrider? That's funny dude, you're a clown.

But seriously none of them have higher showings than the Hulk, unless were talking about Doomsday Clock Manhattan, but if we doing that? We gotta discuss Cosmic Immortal Hulk who is equivalent to the One Below All and then that will get much worse for you.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 11 d
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Why are you laughing about Ghost Rider? Even WWH couldn't finish him off. How do comics dictate that? They exist in separate universes. Do you mean your interpretation of the comics does? I said it's absurd because you said literally NO HERO tops the Hulk. Come on, man. That's ridiculous.

As for your claim that's completely unsupported about me not reading comics, that isn't true. If you're saying that just because I put Flash above Superman, then that's not good evidence. The Flash is one of the most powerful heroes of all time, mainly due to the speed force and his ability to move faster than time and speed can comprehend, and how he can steal speed from anyone, turning them into a statue even like he did to impulse. If Superman or Hulk tried to catch up to him, he would just siphon off their speed, stopping them while adding it to his own. He can also just phase through them and pull out all of their organs. He can use a billion imp in one second. That's why he's so high on my list. Hulk has been beaten by Thor, Sentry, Surfer, and others. If he's the most powerful hero and a multiversal threat, why did that happen?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 10 d
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@Mr_Incognito Superman's never beaten normal Hulk while Hulk has. He's never fought Flash though to my knowledge. Hulk has also beaten Thor, Sentry, Surfer, and others although I don't remember Sentry ever beating Hulk.
@TheNemianLion How old are you? I think I'm actually older than you so was a false statement to make. Other than that I agree with what you said.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 1 mo 10 d
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@Tyr respond to me on Thanos vs hulk page, your votes still on hulk
Akephalos
Akephalos 3 mo 24 d
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1) Superman
2) Green Lantern (Hal)
Thor
3) Flash (Barry)
4) Martian Manhunter
Hulk
5) Aquaman
6) Wonder Woman
7) Batman
Iron Man
Captain America
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Galactus
Galactus 3 mo 24 d
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The title and description is lacking some info.
How are we supposed to rank them? By power/strength, interestingness, most favourite?
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jongensoden
jongensoden 3 mo 24 d
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Power
SirSpidey
SirSpidey 3 mo 24 d
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#1) Thor
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Bane333
Bane333 3 mo 24 d
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:)
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 3 mo 24 d
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What a surprise
MakeMineMarvel
MakeMineMarvel 3 mo 24 d
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Thor was one of my favorite Marvel heroes back in the Silver Age and while I have not followed the Thor comic for decades, I still enjoy his character in the Marvel films.
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 3 mo 25 d
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1) Dr fate
2) Dr strange
3) captain atom
4) Martian manhunter
5) Flash
6) Superman
7) Thor
8) Wonder woman
9) Green lantern
10) hulk
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 24 d
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That list is so bad. It's a good thing your never serious on this site
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 3 mo 24 d
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Can u explain why ? My list are perfect
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 21 d
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Hulk has beaten Dr Stange before and has shown a slight resistance to magic. Hulk's anger is limitless while GL's will has a point and will break eventually. Hulk would just wreak WW.
Mxyzptlk
Mxyzptlk 3 mo 21 d
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If u think hulk can defeat strange than ur lacking knowledge about hulk and strange both read some comic
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 21 d
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stop overrating hulk
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 20 d
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@Jongensoden: if Hulk beats Strange and Thor beats Hulk then why did you say Thor has no chance against Strange? Thor never once said he was "fodder" to Strange, rather he said Strange's magic is superior to his own.
jongensoden
jongensoden 3 mo 20 d
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I think hulk beats Thor and strange his spells had no affect on Thor but on another comic he beated him so i think he can beat thor
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
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@Mxyzptlk @EmptyHand Check again. Hulk's beaten Dr Strange and other magic users before. In World War Hulk Dr Strange had to use a demon potion to stand a chance and even then it wasn't working.
EmptyHand
EmptyHand 3 mo 20 d
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World war hulk is far beyond base hulk so that's not canon to this discussion
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 20 d
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@EmptyHand You keep using the word canon wrong. I think 'relevant` is the word your looking for, which World War Hulk is considering Hulk was holding back considerably while Dr Strange had to use his most extreme potions to stand a chance.
Dark_Wing
Dark_Wing 3 mo 17 d
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@Tyrannus: let me help you real quick: you're trying to say Savage Hulk can beat Strange because Strange needed a "demon potion" just to keep up with him but that's not at all what happened. For starters Strange completely puts down, saying he could just snuff out the Hulk's very essence with ease if he wants to https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/image49.jpeg, given Strange's ego I understand why you might think he was lying but since the Hulk believes him https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/image50.jpeg I'm pretty sure we the readers should aswell. Strange then tells the Hulk to turn back into his base which he dose and it seems like Strange has won but then the Hulk surprises him by darting back up and breaking his hands; since Strange has human level reactions and durability without channeling magic through himself it makes perfect since why Hulk could do that to him. Strange is then sent back into his house this time he's depowered because he needs to make hand gestures to cast his spells but he can't do that because his hands are broken. Because of this he gets extremely desperate and uses grabs "the box" and drinks whatever the heck is inside of it to turn into Zom (who is a "cosmic being" he isn't actually a demon). Once he had Zom, he completely started bodying the Hulk in a fist fight in these three panels 1: https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/strangehulk20.jpg 2: https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/strangehulk21.jpg 3: https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/strangehulk22.jpg, he only lost when he stopped because he realized he almost killed civilians https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/strangehulk24.jpg then Hulk used this moment to catch Strange off guard and pummel him until he was incapacitated then he used an obedience disk to depower Strange (the disks have been able to depower Hulk, Unworthy Thor, and the Silver Surfer in the past so it makes since they can do this to Strange). I think the narrative of the comic is very clear Dr Strange >>> the strongest Hulk we've ever seen up until that point, and if you want proof he was the strongest version at that point then here are two links for you 1: https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/strangehulk1.jpg 2: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-67624b8ebf75172d8c96d0e4ae7deebf; there you go, both Stephen Strange and Tony Stark (two of the smartest minds in Marvel both of whom have studied the Hulk and are close friends of Banner) agree Hulk was at his very peak here. As for Hulk holding back, a fact agreed upon by Hercules, Amadeus Cho, Hulk himself, and Tony Stark: we have no idea how much he was holding back, since he was visibly exerting himself against Strange I think it's safe to say he was using at bare minimum more than half of his strength against Strange and he was still getting bodied. Ghat was just a highball for the Hulk, since he was unable to turn the fight in his favor by himself I think it's safe to assume he was using most of his strength. You can really say Strange was amped because he had lost all his other powers and had to replace it with Zom. Also holding back just means you pull your punches, it doesn't mean your durability or endurance are weakened meaning if Zom was able to do that to the Hulk who had a huge durability increase https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-953d8474567c760df0dc30053f551d75-c, he would also do that to a much greater effect against base Hulk.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 25 d
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1. Hulk
2. Thor
3. Superman
4. Wonder Woman
5. Flash
6. Green Lantern
7. Iron Man
8. Captain America
9. Batman
10. Hawkeye
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jongensoden
jongensoden 3 mo 25 d
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Batman is above captain America green lantern is above flash he beated him already wonder woman is below green lantern superman is above thor
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 25 d
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Batman is definitely not above Cap. Cap is far more enhanced than Batman could ever achieve. Flash can move faster than GL can react. WW displayed superiority over GL already. I'm very split on Superman and Thor. I do believe it could go either way but I think Thor's magic will allow him to edge the win
Bane333
Bane333 3 mo 25 d
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Does rank mean the higher one would win in a battle.
Bane333
Bane333 3 mo 25 d
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My personal Ranking, hardest to defeat.

My Ranking:

1. Superman
2. Thor
3. Wonder Woman
4. Hulk
5. Flash
6. Green Lantern
7. Iron Man
8. Captain America
9. Batman
10. Hawkeye
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 25 d
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I assumed so
jongensoden
jongensoden 3 mo 25 d
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Batman is way more enhanced then Cap is that why green lantern tagged flash multiple times new 52 wonder woman not post crisis ok agreed altough i think superman is a bit Faster and more powers
AkhilPDX
AkhilPDX 3 mo 25 d
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Batman's not even close to Cap in physicality.
Jakcj
Jakcj 3 mo 24 d
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2 year member
Hulk #1?
Um What?
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 24 d
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@jongensoden Perhaps your right about GL and WW however I'm astonished you can say Batman is more enhanced than Cap. Cap is literally boosted by a SSS. Batman just has training, which Cap also has.
@Jakcj Yes he is
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 3 mo 24 d
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Thor is not #2 and Hulk is not #1. Flash and Superman solo either of them. Flash should be first, Supes second, then Thor and then Hulk is below WW and Lantern.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 3 mo 21 d
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@Mr_Incognito Hulk only gets stronger so Superman would never overpower him and Thor's a god although it could still go either way. You don't know Thor or Hulk it looks like
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 17 d
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Superman would defeat him before that happens like he did in the comics. Stop pretending the hulk is invincible. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're ignorant of the other character.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 17 d
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He's never beaten normal Hulk ever. Hulk just gets stronger and more durable. He'll inevitably surpass Superman. When have I claimed Hulk is invincible? Please find me a quote? I apologise if that was a but rude.
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 16 d
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The first time he beat normal hulk. Hulk wasn't nerfed, Superman is just that powerful. Can you stop repeating the same thing over and over about Hulk "just getting stronger?" Superman would take him out before that would happen, and even if it did as long as they're near the sun Superman wouldn't drain at all.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 16 d
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Hulk was never defeated. Don't assume victory. Hulk was nerfed because like I've said Hulk had previously been able to destroy planets and rock the rainbow bridge yet couldn't move Superman. I mention Hulk getting stronger because it's why he wins. Superman uses up more energy than he gains back
Mr_Incognito
Mr_Incognito 1 mo 15 d
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Hulk couldn't even damage in that fight. Superman beat him after a few punches and blasts of heat vision. I think you should read up on Superman some more because you're getting some stuff wrong. Hulk destroying planets and the bridge is great and all, but that's not going to do much to a guy who survived a red sun explosion equal to 50 supernovas to the face or the source wall exploding right in front of him. Superman really is that durable, there was no nerfing happening there. Hulk doesn't start out like that. He takes time to get angrier and stronger. Plus, lifting strength really doesn't matter. Striking strength is what matters and Superman can shatter planets and even destroy planes of reality just by punching. Hulk getting stronger isn't going to help him that much, and considering Superman's speed and flight advantages, Hulk would have a hard time catching him.
Tyrannus
Tyrannus 1 mo 15 d
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Hulk was never defeated. Hulk not only tanked those hits, when he hit back the panel described Superman as going limp. Remember the tables were beginning to turn against Superman as he admitted himself. I could easily assume that as a Hulk victory.
You need to read up on the Hulk because you keep lowballing him for some reason. If you did you'd know Hulk should have been far stronger than that.
Those feats by Superman were outliers. He's also needed help moving Atlantis and the moon. If you'd read up on the Hulk you'd know Hulk has also shattered planets.
Savage Hulk held a huge black hole by himself.

Superman cried after holding a black hole the size of a dust speck and needed help taking it off

And that's just savage Hulk. Once he gets stronger it's game over
DevyEZ
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''Cities ripped apart...Continents erupting...Planets exploding. Th-Thousands of them. J-Just like...Krypton. Over and over and over. Too much...To bear...''
That's the reason Superman was crying.
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Tyrannus
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Yes and Hulk held something like that but much larger. The scan didn't appear for some reason.
Mr_Incognito
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He held a solar system busting black hole in his hands. He's flown out of several himself. The first time they fought it clearly shows Superman winning. He exhausted Hulk and knocked him around like a pinball. Just because Superman won doesn't mean Hulk was nerfed. I don't even get why you're saying those are outliers considering you followed that up with low-end strength feats when I was talking about durability. In the strength department, those lower end feats are more equal to outliers. He has regularly pulled the earth on his own, moved the chains of Maggeddon, which absolutely eclipses the earth, and even bench pressed the weight of the earth with no solar energy for five days.
This is how big mageddon is: https://alchetron.com/cdn/mageddon-0b241c80-6fbd-402b-8057-ada31ce0b27-resize-750.jpeg
And here he is moving it by himself
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111238269/5028579-8032136037-KU5IO.jpg
Pressing the earth with no sunlight
https://pm1.narvii.com/6214/4ef8d81cbb0731f0d7102f5ebae196e30bac0595_hq.jpg
Mr_Incognito
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Here he is surviving a gravity field equal to a black hole: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/xyqwbfm
And a double black hole: https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/60473/1340779-154613_lightspeed2vm5_super.jpg
Tyrannus
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Not only did Hulk recover far better, he also made Superman limp from his punch. Hulk was actually getting stronger which concerned Superman. Superman never won. Hulk only stopped because Superman destroyed the drone which calmed Hulk.
My point was that if you want to use feats like that you have to take the good with the bad which cancel each other out.
Mr_Incognito
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Not in their first fight. Hulk couldn't even move Superman and he lost by exhausting himself.
Mr_Incognito
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Superman was concerned about people getting hurt, but when Hulk tried to punch him he couldn't even move him. Superman had the clear advantage and tired him out.
Mr_Incognito
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Hulk even told Superman he was tired. Right after that he went back to Bruce Banner
Tyrannus
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Check the comic again. Hulk only stopped because the drone got destroyed so Hulk trusted Superman. Superman was losing that advantage and was going to lose if they kept fighting.
Mr_Incognito
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He told Superman was tired and couldn't do any damage to him, even with mountain destroying punches. I'm not gonna go in circles with you. Just know that Hulk has never had the upper hand in their fights
Tyrannus
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Your almost making things up. Hulk never said he couldn't damage Superman. The comic described Hulk's punch as powerful as a H-bomb. Superman had to calm Hulk because as he said "no one sane" would want to fight him. Even Spider-Man confirms Superman only calmed Hulk. Bare in mind this was pre-crisis Superman who was far stronger. Hulk can beat post-crisis Superman.
Mr_Incognito
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I didn't say Hulk said that. I think i worded the sentence kinda awkwardly. I meant to say that Hulk said he was tired. The comic says that even mountain-crushing blows weren't moving Superman. Hulk could, but he wouldn't take the majority. Superman could just throw him into the sun or lobotomize him with heat vision.
Tyrannus
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It's true the comic said that but it also said Hulk was getting stronger and now the outcome was in doubt. Superman needed to end the fight before he lost again. Hulk can react before Superman attempts to throw him and he'd heal from the heat vision.