Freaking fodder werewolf killed writer ,chaos king defeated by Chaos war hercules,times applies on Cosmic immortal Hulk ,and last Gabriel killed presence
No, not the second one. In their first encounter, Morlun was winning until Spider-man escaped and studied his blood and discovered his weakness to radiation, which he used to beat him. The next time, Morlun fatally injured him and when he returned to consume him Spider-man used a host of never-seen-before totemic powers to kill him. In Spider-Verse, Spider-man beat him by trapping him in a wasteland filled with radiation. In Spider-Geddon both were wounded and Spider-man beat him with his intelligence and surroundings. He always beats him with prep or intelligence, not with strength. If he did it that way it would be PIS.
Chamela breaking Spider-Lantern's Brain & Mind
Electricity Claws tagging SuperDevil
Bathor beating Joki
The Justice X beating The Assassins
Bathor beating his rogues gallery on a few occassions, why is this PIS because HIS ROGUES GALLERY BEAT HIM ALL THE FREAKING TIME
Red Rhino beating Spider-Lantern
Orange Mystery beating Spider-Lantern
Etc
AMAZO losing to the Justice League
Spider-Man beating Galactus, Molecule Man, I Know he had the powers of the beyonder but come on, if he had his powers, he should put up a fight but it's PIS because the writer wanted the Fans to see that Spider-Man is so strong to punch Galactus in the face
Chameleon Breaking Spider-Man's Mind
Riddler beating Batgirl
Joker beating Batman
Bane beating Batman
Scarecrow beating Batman
That's irrelevant to what we are disccusing now and yeah you overrate them as hell and you called me dumb first underrating a charachter don't Mean im dumb and im not underrating anyone you are underrating charachters like captain atom wonder woman and Donna Troy wonder woman and overrating charachters like black widow punisher and captain America and Daredevil also prove how these things are pis
So what joker > captain America joker>punisher joker>black widow and that's Actually pis unlike bane beating batman or riddler beating Batgirl wich is no pis
Prove it if you are saying because i think joker beats black widow or punisher that's not even trolling thinking black widow beats wonder woman is trolling
You weren't talking most of the debate with Joey, and actually others were carrying you, you were affraid of Joey, but you were clearly watching because when Joey betrayed the judges they said you won, and you instantly got happy, and you never beat Jon
It was plot armor that Deadshot lasted so long against Deathstroke, and that Batman beat both within a few moves. Deathstroke was out of character and shouldn't have struggled against him. He's beaten Batman holding back one time and weakened on another, and Deadshot was there too.
Batman beating Superman (every time)
Batman beating JLA (every time)
Thanos beating Odin
Batman killing Darkseid
Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe (non-canon, btw)
WW Hulk beating Dr. Strange
Wolverine killing Hulk
Wolverine wounding Thor
Batman landing a hit on Reverse-Flash
Catwoman beating three Flashes
Harley Quinn escaping Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman
Captain Marvel beating Thor
Spider-man beating Firelord
Captain America holding his own against Hulk
It's not PIS just because you don't like it, besides Thor was never faster than SS, he threw his hammer faster then Norrin could react _The Mighty Thor #4 by Matt Fraction. As for quicksilver https://images.app.goo.gl/1SXmmwXCPTyED1NQ9
Not every single comment is about making fun of you. He just made a claim about you. Also, you had no reason to downvote @Dark_Wing's rebuttal. That's completely unacceptable.
Well I have finals, so you aren't the only one, and mind you, I'm not in a good mood either and coming home to see that more comments have random downvotes is just infuriating. You are abusing the feature and breaking other rules too, so....take my words as less of a request and more of something you need to do.
But,thor with 7/7 speed rating in official marvel website and being able to move as fast as lightning he commands ,who consistently fights silver surfer (14times)matching his speed and thor defeating quicksilver,saying "i've fleeted foes who are even faster than you" is "pis"..Lmao!
Batman beating Spectre
Wolverine cutting Thanos
Dr Manhattan beating Mr Myx
Thing beating Namor Under Water
Deadpool's healing factor being better Than Wolverine's Healing Factor
Wolverine Claws Cutting Through Colossus
King Thanos beat Marvel Universe
STOP BEING Dumb! Wolverine Can NOT Cut Through Colossus's Skin since his claws are Incosistent. another thing for Mxy and Manhattan, IT'S BASED ON FEATS!
Creating a multiverse is better than destroying a multiverse, and you are still a lol machine meme for saying destruction > creation, which is so god dam sad and hilarious, wolverine's claws are made out of adamantium which is the same medal used to make iron Man armor, it's a strong as f*ck medal and Colossus isn't adamantium, he's below ******
Deadpool's healing factor being better than Wolverine's is right because Wolverine's healing factor is constantly resisting the adamantium poisoning and old age. Deadpool isn't held back by this.
If you were talking about how Batman's kick. Let me show you it, I agree it's really PIS
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111174799/4484756-batmanvsspectre.jpg
Hulk hitting Thor with his own hammer _Hulk Let the Battle Begin
Superman (while Motherbox amped) being able to harm Soulfire Darkseid
World War Hulk beating Dr Strange _WWH #4
Professor Hulk going toe to toe with Warrior Madness Thor _Hulk
Weakened Wanda being able to slow down and BFR mind controlled Thor _Uncanny Avengers #7
Trigon losing to the Teen Titans
God of Strength Superman losing to Wonder Woman _JL #47
Wolverine being faster than Thor _Wolverine vs Thor
Wolverine defeating the Hulk
Captain America being able to hold his own against Hulk
Captain America being able to damage Onslaught
Hulk destroying Onslaught's armor _Hulk #446
Black Panther not only being fast enough to catch the Silver Surfer but being strong enough to hold him down
Daredevil being able to dodge attacks from the Mighty Thor
Daredevil being able to hold his own against the Hulk
Basically anything Red Hulk did while he had the Leob Force
World War Hulk being unable to break Emma Frost's diamond form _WWH #2
The Thing making World War Hulk bleed _WWH #2
Thor being decapitated by Captain Marvel _Captain Marvel #12
Dormammu losing to Cyclops
Thor being caught off guard and pummeled by Phoenix Emma Frost despite proving he's superior to her in the same comic _AvX #5
Ezra being able to hold his own against Darth Vader _Twilight of the Apprentice
Luke being able to defeat Vader _RotJ
Anakin being unable to jump over Kenobi _RotS
Palpatine being killed by Han Solo in Dark Empire
Deathstroke bringing down the Justice League
Sentry beating Molecule Man
Thor being harmed by bullets
Superman being harmed by Deathstroke's sword
Hayley Quinn destroying the OverVoid on accident
Catwoman beating three speedsters by herself
Can you just stop saying boomtube amped Superman > Soulfire is pis? FOR ONE THING, soulfire darkseid was being toyed with BY AN AVATAR OF THE SOURCE, not the true source, so soulfire darkseid isn't that special, boomtube amps allow beings to dwarf the size of the multiverse, and they have very highly amped physical attributes, so stop saying it's pis
Hulk got stronger and rightly overpowered Thor in Let the Battle Begin.
Dr Strange being unable to beat WWH shows his power.
Hulk breaking Onslaught's armour also makes sense given how Hulk is Marvel's strongest.
What did Red Hulk do that was PIS?
Anakin did technically jump over Obi-Wan but it allowed him to sever Anakin's limbs.
1: I have absolutely no problem with Hulk being stronger than Thor because Hulk is the strongest there is after all and it's been confirmed Hulk can far surpass Thor, if you want proof of that here's a video sent to me by @Breakerhttps://youtu.be/Na36dJgQh-M, based on this instance we know Hulk is potentially 10X stronger than Thor in Hulk's base state. The reason it's PIS is because Thor couldn't stop Hulk from doing that by say letting go of the hammer, calling down a bolt of lightning, or simply ducking to avoid getting hit. There have been at least two other instances when Thor's been able to stop just that from happening Indestructible Hulk #7 https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-67220088484e6fe305b902608249157d and Hulk #26 by Jeph Leob https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/thorredhulk4.jpg.
2: I know, though the feat in itself doesn't make a whole lot of since
3: I know, it's inconsistent given how several characters who are on Hulk's level and maybe superior all failed to even come remotely close to doing that.
4: a lot of things, off the top of my head I can instantly think three examples: 1: defeating Silver Surfer and taking his powers 2: surviving an attack from Galactus, 3: defeating Unstoppable Colossus.
5: it's PIS because literally in that same movie he freaking Mario jumped over from the bridge he was on to a platform and now he can't even make a 15 feat jump.
1. In the middle of battle you can't always think of these things on the spot. To be fair he had Hulk down at first and should have struck first before Hulk moved but Hulk was faster and stronger at that point.
3. Fair
4. Red Hulk's powers allow him him to steal cosmic energy allowing him to overcome Surfer. Galctus from what I remember puts him back in his place after he confronts him.
5. Anakin did make the jump but that was the problem. Obi-Wan baited him into showing off his power when he should have been patient and placed himself on safe ground.
1: but Thor is a several thousand year old god who has been fighting a large plethora of different enemies over those years; do you Seriously think he couldn't have done something like that outside of PIS? Remember Thor isn't dumb and as a warrior he should be ready for something like that. And I've literally just posted two examples of him doing just that.
4: give me three other occasions of him doing that outside of that instance, then we can talk about it being consistent. And no, Galactus blasted him after saying he will kill him _Hulk #13 by Jeph Leob. How the heck dose Red Hulk survive that when he couldn't even survive for long in a black hole.
5: I know but why couldn't he just jump 300 meters into the air over Kenobi then land of solid ground? Based on a feat from that same movie he should be able to do that.
1. He had Hulk on his knees so Thor has the advantage here. Hulk was able to overpower Thor as he got stronger
4. Red Hulk doesn't really go up against many radiation based people apart from the Hulk to give examples from but absorbing radiation is what he's famous for. Another example of him absorbing cosmic radiation like he did from SS was when he did so against Thor. What do you mean no? Galactus did what I said he did.
5. Anakin was tired and frustrated at that point. Obi-Wan's the master of Form III and they whole point of that form is to keep defending against your opponent until they they get annoyed and make a mistake.
1: wow, you're repeating the same thing, almost like you have no rebuttal. Next
4: cosmic energy ain't radiation my friend, it's basically a sci-fi version of magic. As for Galactus https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-808241
6: I'm well aware of that but do you Seriously think an hour (at most) long duel and a three foot hill are enough to allow you to beat someone much faster and stronger than you? Besides it's not like Anakin hasn't been able to fight for much longer than that without losing to a three foot dune.
1. That was my rebuttal mate. If you don't have a counter argument for it then I assume you've conceded I'm right.
4. Cosmic energy isn't magic it's still within the confines of science and like all things in science it gives off radiation. I'm not sure why you sent that picture. It still proves my point.
5. Yes. Obi-Wan was conserving himself the whole fight just defending Anakin's attacks while Anakin did the opposite. Anakin was tired and frustrated so making the careless mistake that he did makes sense. He was also motivated to kill his master the same way he did against Maul
1: if that was your rebuttal then why didn't you address the scans I showed where Thor prevents Hulk and Red Hulk from doing that same trick? And why didn't you explain how a warrior who's been in battle for thousands of years taking on a large plethora of different enemies being unable to prevent that and simply not "thinking about it at the right time."
4: I'm well aware of that, i was just using an analogy because energy isn't always radiation. If you're trying to argue he can absorb it because it gives off radiation then could Red Hulk now absorb a phone since it gives off radiation? And why couldn't Red Hulk ever absorb Thor lightning (which is confirmed to be natural lighting) or absorb the Hulk's gamma energy?
5: again I understand how and why it happened, do you understand why I think it was stupid? I don't feel like repeating my reasoning. Why couldn't Anakin just put up his lightsaber to block Kenobi's strike? Though I understand what the narrative had in mind in that scene. Oh, and Kenobi was also getting tired. Just wanted to get that out there. And what dose Maul have to do with anything?
1. As I've already said in the heat of battle you don't always think of these things even with years of experience. Thor only realised he needed to let go of his hammer after the first time he got beaten by Red Hulk. Seasoned boxers have said that despite years of training and preparation, when your getting hit in the face, all that planning goes out the window in the moment.
4. You first said cosmic energy is like magic but when I said it isn't you said your aware? Which one is is? In theory he could absorb the radiation from the phone but he wouldn't suddenly absorb the phone itself nor would it help him much. Lightening doesn't give off radiation like an object or people do. I'd assume the fact that it was summoned using magic would also play a part. Red Hulk can and does absorb Hulk's gamma energy.
5. If you understand Obi-Wan's technique then why do you think it's stupid he won? Anakin probably didn't expect Obi-Wan to cut him down the same way Maul didn't cut Obi-Wan down. Maul didn't expect the jump, Obi-Wan did. Obi-Wan was tired but he still had some fight in him as he wasn't really exerting himself like Anakin was. Read the Obi-Wan and Anakin comics. It shows how Anakin was obsessed with mastering the same move Obi-Wan used on Maul
1: I completely understand that except the problem is Thor was NOT in the heat of battle, he had just put down Hulk and was literally bragging https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8872dd15814797c9ff55ab1448340d00 Hulk did that after Thor thought he won. That isn't a fare comparison because boxing is a sport to the KO while war (which is what Thor's been in for thousands of years) is to the DEATH, make one mistake like that and your dead! Are you seriously telling me Thor (the greatest warrior of a race of the greatest warriors in the universe) world just make one bad slip up? What about that scan I gave where Thor stops Hulk from trying that in Indestructible Hulk Gods and Monsters? Keep in mind that Thor in that comic was a Thor from thousands of years ago with Hulk and the others being time displaced. Though I do understand how that might work especially given Thor's CIS. And I forgot to mention this: you count Hulk: Let the Battle Begin as a fair play for the Hulk but you count Thor one shotting Hulk with lighting as a "cheap shot" in Hulk annual 2001 because you don't like the idea of Thor being strong enough to do that despite the fact that he's done just that on three other occasions 1: Breaking Into Comics the Marvel Way #2, 2: Fear Itself book 5 (to both a heavily Hulk and amped Thing (who at that point literally toyed with Red Hulk and still demolished him, and as you probably know Red Hulk is always comparable to the green Hulk), 3: God of Thunder #21 (to a monster stated to have the strength of the Hulk).
4: I said it was "a sci-fi version of magic" and I was comparing it to Dr Strange's magic as in both get it from a cosmic being and they both do whatever the heck the plot wants at the time. But that neither here nor there, I meant to say it's energy but it's not radiation, unless you have evidence to show that it is. Okay. Neither dose Silver Surfer, heck lightning is entirely energy while Silver Surfer is merely "empowered" by energy while lightning IS energy; lightning also can give off radiation https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q10893.html. Why dose how it was summoned change weather Ross can absorb it or not? Remember in Hulk #5 Red Hulk flat out says "I have studied you Thor" if anyone knew Thor's lightning was natural, it would be him.
5: because I think it severely downplays Anakin's abilities by making it seem like he can just be mutilated by a three foot dun while ignoring his feats of making far comebacks than that. You do realize Kenobi also had a clear memory of that and probably replayed that battle in his mind over and over again like most of us do with important events (like cutting Maul in half) and he even said "don't try it," he knew what Anakin was about to do and Anakin should have also known to put his blade down to block that, and the Obi-Wan and Anakin comic just proves my point even more.
1. I'm talking about as Hulk was using the hammer against him not before. Boxing is similar because while you don't kill your opponent your still trying to beat them down like Thor tries to do with Hulk. Thor isn't going to be flawless just because he has years of experience. We all make mistakes. Thor never actually beats Hulk in Hulk annual 2001. Unlike in that comic, in Let the Battle Begin Hulk beats him with his own hammer while facing each other. That's the opposite of a cheap shot.
4. Cosmic radiation exists in real life so we can assume it exists in comics too considering Rulk was able to absorb it from SS.
5. Anakin's never had such a difficult fight like this before. Not even Count Dooku was able to hold him off. When you master Form III your defence should be unbreakable so it's no surprise Anakin couldn't get past it. Obi-Wan was reluctant the whole fight which is why he says that. Anakin in his rage does it anyway. His mind was severely clouded by the dark side. The comic shows why Maul was relevant because you asked why I brought Maul into this. The comic shows how Anakin wanted to use his masters move against him. Maul never struck Obi-Wan so Anakin had no reason to believe Obi-Wan would.
1: yes, I'm asking why couldn't Thor let go of the hammer as soon as Hulk grabbed it before he got hit in the face, unless you think Thor would actually stand there like an idiot and get hit like that (which would kinda question how he became who he is) then he should have been able to do that or at least noticed Hulk was getting angrier then tapped him on the head again just to be sure. The difference is warriors have to be 💯 precent invested in what they do because it literally means there lives while boxing again is just to the KO, the most lethal boxing can get is a few broken bones. I don't think Thor (or any other character) should be completely flawless but Hulk Let the Battle Begin is just unacceptable. And I'm well aware Thor didn't truly beat Hulk in that comic but this reminds me of something: remember when you yourself said "after that Hulk beat Thor until he was unconscious" yeah guess what, Hulk hit Thor FIVE times two of those hits were him stomping on Thor with his full body weight and Thor took all of that off guard and still got right back up with only a nosebleed https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-f4b711e74cdefccf4df814888e102ca1-c. I ask you one more question: if this counts a a cheap shot then would anytime a boxer gets behind another and hits them in the back also count as a cheap shot? And Hulk was directed looking at Thor when Thor hit him with lightning.
4: Silver Surfers energy is the "Power Cosmic" which is basically Galactus' life essence, unless you have any evidence that the Power Cosmic is radiation, you can't use it. And another PIS moment for Red Hulk was when he had the upper hand on Sentry who had help, this is PIS because Sentry is on the same level as characters who have proven above Rulk.
5: you're forgetting his fights with Asajj Ventress, especially this one https://youtu.be/HbBKHB1Sffg and all the times Dooku battled him to a stalemate in the DH comics and TCW, and I don't remember him losing to a dune in any of those. I never once said Anakin should have been able to get past his defense. Not only he was reluctant but he should have known Anakin would have tried the move he used against Maul because he was also there when Anakin was playing with that training drone. And Anakin should have expected it because he knew Kenobi has a firm memory of the Maul fight (he knows this because in that scan you showed Kenobi said Anakin had asked him a bunch of questions about it and he was able to answer them all) and probably thought about how Maul could have done better.
1. It's very easy to criticise Thor afterwards but in the middle of battle you don't think straight. I'm sure he would have knocked Hulk back down if he saw it coming but Hulk reacted quicker. Thor and Hulk rarely fight to the death as they're friends (sometimes). Sure Hulk hits Thor off guard while they were flying but Thor should have been prepared for sometime like that. Thor's lightening hits Hulk from the back.
4. Cosmic energy gives off radiation. Red Hulk wouldn't have been able to absorb it otherwise.
5. Obi-Wan did know he'd try the move which is why his dismembers him. Maul never cut Obi-Wan so Anakin had no reason to believe Obi-Wan would do the same considering Anakin believed himself superior to them both.
1: again why are you acting like merely moving a few fingers is a hard task? If anything it should be easier than throwing a punch. Wow! Did you just concede that Hulk caught the God of Thunder off guard, thank you very much. Fun fact: Hulk Let the Battle Begin takes place before Thor and Hulk knew each other so for all Thor knew Hulk was just like any other rock monster he's fought at this point. Even in canon they've done that a few times like Ghosts of the Furture storyline, Fear Itself storyline, crossroads storyline, just to name some. And the reason he wasn't expecting it was because literally seconds prior because the Hulk was in human form and unconscious before waking up and hitting him https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bab0242cd224e8f71d9dd59e85159698
5: haha I find it hard to believe he wouldn't think "jez (or whatever the Star Wars version is called) would Kenobi just stand there like an idiot and let me cut him in half?
1. I've never said it was hard to let go of the hammer I said it's not always obvious when getting punched. You instinctively hold onto the weapon that gives you power and try and wrestle it from him. Sure technically Hulk gets Thor off guard but that's fair play on the Hulk because Thor should have known better than to just carry Banner around. He should have been on guard.
5. I don't know who jez is unless you meant jeeze. You acting like Anakin took hours to jump past Obi_Wan. It happened within a split second.
1: you know what is also instinctual? Pulling away from whatever or whoever is hitting you. You seem to be focused on the "why didn't he let go of Mjolnir" question when in actuality that was just one of the examples on how he could have escaped that situation. The other examples were 1: punch the Hulk to stager him and force him to let go of the weapon, 2: call down lightning to free up the hammer 3: duck out of dodge to you know avoid getting hit. You notice something about these? They are all very simple I'm not asking why Thor didn't do an Anti-Force blast and fallow it up with a UMvC3 combo, I'm asking why he couldn't do such a simple task. If that counts as a fair play then why the he'l doesn't Thor knocking him out with lightning also count because he should have been expecting a lightning based attack from someone who literally calls himself the God of Thunder? And in that scan I showed, Thor has to get Banner back to Earth, how else would he have done that other than to carry him?
5: atocorect, have you ever been screwed up by it? Cause I was just. Back to the point: so Kenobi had enough time to slice him into ribbons but Anakin didn't have enough time to put up his lightsaber or to jump 60 ft in the air and land 30 feat behind him? Sounds right, sounds like Disney's Star Wars logic.
1. I'm sure Thor did try and pull away but Hulk kept punching. These are all hindsight questions. Why didn't Thor do this, why didn't Thor do that? Why did Logan Paul make the illegal punch? All questions that the losers tend to ask. Sometimes these things happen.
The lightening hit Hulk from behind the head. Hulk didn't see that coming. Sure Thor had to carry him but it's still a big risk.
5. Anakin didn't expect the attack given how many times he'd gone through the simulations. He's mind was clouded by the dark side and exhaustion.
@Tyrannus:
1: you're acting like escaping that situation would be hard, it's not, either pulling away or hitting back would be the first instinct for any sane person and a warrior like Thor should have been able to escape that a lot easier. "Why did Logan Paul make the illegal punch?" Because of desperation, Thor was not desperate when Hulk was hitting him like that. Stop acting like pulling away or hitting back is hard for Asgard's sake.
"The lighting hit Hulk from behind" you mean like Hulk's punches did? Either they're both cheap shots or they're both fair plays, you decide. You can't just pick the one you like and discard the one you don't like.
5: I mean if Obi Wan himself said "don't try it" implying he knew what Anakin was going to do, what should Anakin have expected? And no he wasn't exhausted; did he even look like he was exhausted?
1. I can literally say the same thing about Hulk's losses or even when Thor was hitting him in that very fight.
5. Anakin took that the wrong way thinking he couldn't make the move. When your angry and clouded by the dark side you don't think rationally.
I know who Thor is and how powerful he is but sometimes you just have to take the L. It makes me question your IQ that you had to say that to be honest. I never said he becomes mindless after one hit.
I was the one you gave the scans. Why are you sending be scans for a comic I told you to read?
1: no, it makes perfect sense for Thor to have been able to do that because at that point he was much faster, stronger, and literally infinitely more skilled than Hulk
5: I thought I conceded on the high ground not being PIS and wrote that entire essay to add more to the argument that it was not by showing how in the RotS game when Anakin succeeds in jumperint over Kenobi, he does a similar move to what happened to Maul. Again the high ground is not PIS. There, I hope you don't still think I'm an Anakin fanboy who claims "anything I don't like like is PIS" because I'm not.
What's wrong with my IQ? Again all I'm doing is acknowledging the facts. Okay but even if being hit were to weaken Thor's ability to fight somehow (it won't) then he still shouldn't have been outperformed by the Hulk who has lime zero fighting skills. I will take the L once you justify why it makes sense for him to just let the Hulk hit him to death.
I sent a different scan from the one you sent to me, the reason I sent it was because that paragraph was actually something I sent to someone else on chat because they tried to argue the same thing I was arguing earlier and I forgot to change it up. Sorry for repeating myself (I normally don't do that too much bty and have promised to stop because I know it's annoying).
1. That shows a lack of understanding of the Hulk. He's shown that he's equal in strength and speed to Thor and while not as skilled it hasn't helped him much in the past.
5. Don't think your a Anakin fanboy.
1: I was referring to at the beginning of the fight; I'm well aware that the two are comparable. And again Thor's skill doesn't help him because he chooses to brawl! How many more times am I gonna have to tell you that.
5: thank you.
Drax was made to be Thanos' kryptonite basically, a being made by thanos' father to kill Thanos, after that, he lost that role and Thanos slapped him, so no
Superman blinded Darkseid in a long ending fight. His clothes were torn apart and he won that fight. Though Darkseid wins more fights then Superman could ahve.
Wtf... LMAOOO 😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, by your logic Empty hand >>> overvoid, which is deadass disproven by the writer
Tell me this, an old man can build up a Lego structure, and a young kid can come and break it, tell me does that mean the kid >>> the adult? LMAO no
Thor trying to fight off Galactus, Wolverine apparently being faster than Thor, Superman saving the "omniverse," DC Odin and DC Zeus splitting apart the Source (who is a jobber), and SF Darkseid's weird....whatever feat happened.
And Po beating Tai Lung
Squirrel Girl vs Deadpool
Squirrel Girl vs MODOK
Squirrel Girl vs Galactus
Spider-Man beating Morlun
Electricity Claws tagging SuperDevil
Bathor beating Joki
The Justice X beating The Assassins
Bathor beating his rogues gallery on a few occassions, why is this PIS because HIS ROGUES GALLERY BEAT HIM ALL THE FREAKING TIME
Red Rhino beating Spider-Lantern
Orange Mystery beating Spider-Lantern
Etc
Spider-Man beating Galactus, Molecule Man, I Know he had the powers of the beyonder but come on, if he had his powers, he should put up a fight but it's PIS because the writer wanted the Fans to see that Spider-Man is so strong to punch Galactus in the face
Chameleon Breaking Spider-Man's Mind
Riddler beating Batgirl
Joker beating Batman
Bane beating Batman
Scarecrow beating Batman
And those are your best feats
Batman beating Deathstroke and Deadshot at the same time
Wolverine tagging Thor
Batman beating JLA (every time)
Thanos beating Odin
Batman killing Darkseid
Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe (non-canon, btw)
WW Hulk beating Dr. Strange
Wolverine killing Hulk
Wolverine wounding Thor
Batman landing a hit on Reverse-Flash
Catwoman beating three Flashes
Harley Quinn escaping Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman
Captain Marvel beating Thor
Spider-man beating Firelord
Captain America holding his own against Hulk
Blotsky: ThAtS pIs
But,thor with 7/7 speed rating in official marvel website and being able to move as fast as lightning he commands ,who consistently fights silver surfer (14times)matching his speed and thor defeating quicksilver,saying "i've fleeted foes who are even faster than you" is "pis"..Lmao!
Batman trapping mister mxy in a cage
Check your messages.
Wolverine cutting Thanos
Dr Manhattan beating Mr Myx
Thing beating Namor Under Water
Deadpool's healing factor being better Than Wolverine's Healing Factor
Wolverine Claws Cutting Through Colossus
King Thanos beat Marvel Universe
I don't care about that moment, but agreed
Still have yet to prove that, something you never did
Thing is fodder, but so is namor, but anyways agreed
It isn't, not really
The claws are adamantium which is above Colossus
King Thanos is Op
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111174799/4484756-batmanvsspectre.jpg
Superman (while Motherbox amped) being able to harm Soulfire Darkseid
World War Hulk beating Dr Strange _WWH #4
Professor Hulk going toe to toe with Warrior Madness Thor _Hulk
Weakened Wanda being able to slow down and BFR mind controlled Thor _Uncanny Avengers #7
Trigon losing to the Teen Titans
God of Strength Superman losing to Wonder Woman _JL #47
Wolverine being faster than Thor _Wolverine vs Thor
Wolverine defeating the Hulk
Captain America being able to hold his own against Hulk
Captain America being able to damage Onslaught
Hulk destroying Onslaught's armor _Hulk #446
Black Panther not only being fast enough to catch the Silver Surfer but being strong enough to hold him down
Daredevil being able to dodge attacks from the Mighty Thor
Daredevil being able to hold his own against the Hulk
Basically anything Red Hulk did while he had the Leob Force
World War Hulk being unable to break Emma Frost's diamond form _WWH #2
The Thing making World War Hulk bleed _WWH #2
Thor being decapitated by Captain Marvel _Captain Marvel #12
Dormammu losing to Cyclops
Thor being caught off guard and pummeled by Phoenix Emma Frost despite proving he's superior to her in the same comic _AvX #5
Ezra being able to hold his own against Darth Vader _Twilight of the Apprentice
Luke being able to defeat Vader _RotJ
Anakin being unable to jump over Kenobi _RotS
Palpatine being killed by Han Solo in Dark Empire
Deathstroke bringing down the Justice League
Sentry beating Molecule Man
Thor being harmed by bullets
Superman being harmed by Deathstroke's sword
Hayley Quinn destroying the OverVoid on accident
Catwoman beating three speedsters by herself
is no pis
Dr Strange being unable to beat WWH shows his power.
Hulk breaking Onslaught's armour also makes sense given how Hulk is Marvel's strongest.
What did Red Hulk do that was PIS?
Anakin did technically jump over Obi-Wan but it allowed him to sever Anakin's limbs.
2: I know, though the feat in itself doesn't make a whole lot of since
3: I know, it's inconsistent given how several characters who are on Hulk's level and maybe superior all failed to even come remotely close to doing that.
4: a lot of things, off the top of my head I can instantly think three examples: 1: defeating Silver Surfer and taking his powers 2: surviving an attack from Galactus, 3: defeating Unstoppable Colossus.
5: it's PIS because literally in that same movie he freaking Mario jumped over from the bridge he was on to a platform and now he can't even make a 15 feat jump.
3. Fair
4. Red Hulk's powers allow him him to steal cosmic energy allowing him to overcome Surfer. Galctus from what I remember puts him back in his place after he confronts him.
5. Anakin did make the jump but that was the problem. Obi-Wan baited him into showing off his power when he should have been patient and placed himself on safe ground.
4: give me three other occasions of him doing that outside of that instance, then we can talk about it being consistent. And no, Galactus blasted him after saying he will kill him _Hulk #13 by Jeph Leob. How the heck dose Red Hulk survive that when he couldn't even survive for long in a black hole.
5: I know but why couldn't he just jump 300 meters into the air over Kenobi then land of solid ground? Based on a feat from that same movie he should be able to do that.
4. Red Hulk doesn't really go up against many radiation based people apart from the Hulk to give examples from but absorbing radiation is what he's famous for. Another example of him absorbing cosmic radiation like he did from SS was when he did so against Thor. What do you mean no? Galactus did what I said he did.
5. Anakin was tired and frustrated at that point. Obi-Wan's the master of Form III and they whole point of that form is to keep defending against your opponent until they they get annoyed and make a mistake.
4: cosmic energy ain't radiation my friend, it's basically a sci-fi version of magic. As for Galactus https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-808241
6: I'm well aware of that but do you Seriously think an hour (at most) long duel and a three foot hill are enough to allow you to beat someone much faster and stronger than you? Besides it's not like Anakin hasn't been able to fight for much longer than that without losing to a three foot dune.
4. Cosmic energy isn't magic it's still within the confines of science and like all things in science it gives off radiation. I'm not sure why you sent that picture. It still proves my point.
5. Yes. Obi-Wan was conserving himself the whole fight just defending Anakin's attacks while Anakin did the opposite. Anakin was tired and frustrated so making the careless mistake that he did makes sense. He was also motivated to kill his master the same way he did against Maul
4: I'm well aware of that, i was just using an analogy because energy isn't always radiation. If you're trying to argue he can absorb it because it gives off radiation then could Red Hulk now absorb a phone since it gives off radiation? And why couldn't Red Hulk ever absorb Thor lightning (which is confirmed to be natural lighting) or absorb the Hulk's gamma energy?
5: again I understand how and why it happened, do you understand why I think it was stupid? I don't feel like repeating my reasoning. Why couldn't Anakin just put up his lightsaber to block Kenobi's strike? Though I understand what the narrative had in mind in that scene. Oh, and Kenobi was also getting tired. Just wanted to get that out there. And what dose Maul have to do with anything?
4. You first said cosmic energy is like magic but when I said it isn't you said your aware? Which one is is? In theory he could absorb the radiation from the phone but he wouldn't suddenly absorb the phone itself nor would it help him much. Lightening doesn't give off radiation like an object or people do. I'd assume the fact that it was summoned using magic would also play a part. Red Hulk can and does absorb Hulk's gamma energy.
5. If you understand Obi-Wan's technique then why do you think it's stupid he won? Anakin probably didn't expect Obi-Wan to cut him down the same way Maul didn't cut Obi-Wan down. Maul didn't expect the jump, Obi-Wan did. Obi-Wan was tired but he still had some fight in him as he wasn't really exerting himself like Anakin was. Read the Obi-Wan and Anakin comics. It shows how Anakin was obsessed with mastering the same move Obi-Wan used on Maul
4: I said it was "a sci-fi version of magic" and I was comparing it to Dr Strange's magic as in both get it from a cosmic being and they both do whatever the heck the plot wants at the time. But that neither here nor there, I meant to say it's energy but it's not radiation, unless you have evidence to show that it is. Okay. Neither dose Silver Surfer, heck lightning is entirely energy while Silver Surfer is merely "empowered" by energy while lightning IS energy; lightning also can give off radiation https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q10893.html. Why dose how it was summoned change weather Ross can absorb it or not? Remember in Hulk #5 Red Hulk flat out says "I have studied you Thor" if anyone knew Thor's lightning was natural, it would be him.
5: because I think it severely downplays Anakin's abilities by making it seem like he can just be mutilated by a three foot dun while ignoring his feats of making far comebacks than that. You do realize Kenobi also had a clear memory of that and probably replayed that battle in his mind over and over again like most of us do with important events (like cutting Maul in half) and he even said "don't try it," he knew what Anakin was about to do and Anakin should have also known to put his blade down to block that, and the Obi-Wan and Anakin comic just proves my point even more.
4. Cosmic radiation exists in real life so we can assume it exists in comics too considering Rulk was able to absorb it from SS.
5. Anakin's never had such a difficult fight like this before. Not even Count Dooku was able to hold him off. When you master Form III your defence should be unbreakable so it's no surprise Anakin couldn't get past it. Obi-Wan was reluctant the whole fight which is why he says that. Anakin in his rage does it anyway. His mind was severely clouded by the dark side. The comic shows why Maul was relevant because you asked why I brought Maul into this. The comic shows how Anakin wanted to use his masters move against him. Maul never struck Obi-Wan so Anakin had no reason to believe Obi-Wan would.
4: Silver Surfers energy is the "Power Cosmic" which is basically Galactus' life essence, unless you have any evidence that the Power Cosmic is radiation, you can't use it. And another PIS moment for Red Hulk was when he had the upper hand on Sentry who had help, this is PIS because Sentry is on the same level as characters who have proven above Rulk.
5: you're forgetting his fights with Asajj Ventress, especially this one https://youtu.be/HbBKHB1Sffg and all the times Dooku battled him to a stalemate in the DH comics and TCW, and I don't remember him losing to a dune in any of those. I never once said Anakin should have been able to get past his defense. Not only he was reluctant but he should have known Anakin would have tried the move he used against Maul because he was also there when Anakin was playing with that training drone. And Anakin should have expected it because he knew Kenobi has a firm memory of the Maul fight (he knows this because in that scan you showed Kenobi said Anakin had asked him a bunch of questions about it and he was able to answer them all) and probably thought about how Maul could have done better.
4. Cosmic energy gives off radiation. Red Hulk wouldn't have been able to absorb it otherwise.
5. Obi-Wan did know he'd try the move which is why his dismembers him. Maul never cut Obi-Wan so Anakin had no reason to believe Obi-Wan would do the same considering Anakin believed himself superior to them both.
5: haha I find it hard to believe he wouldn't think "jez (or whatever the Star Wars version is called) would Kenobi just stand there like an idiot and let me cut him in half?
5. I don't know who jez is unless you meant jeeze. You acting like Anakin took hours to jump past Obi_Wan. It happened within a split second.
5: atocorect, have you ever been screwed up by it? Cause I was just. Back to the point: so Kenobi had enough time to slice him into ribbons but Anakin didn't have enough time to put up his lightsaber or to jump 60 ft in the air and land 30 feat behind him? Sounds right, sounds like Disney's Star Wars logic.
The lightening hit Hulk from behind the head. Hulk didn't see that coming. Sure Thor had to carry him but it's still a big risk.
5. Anakin didn't expect the attack given how many times he'd gone through the simulations. He's mind was clouded by the dark side and exhaustion.
And Wonder Woman beating God of Strength is also no PIS, the amp was just garbage.
1: you're acting like escaping that situation would be hard, it's not, either pulling away or hitting back would be the first instinct for any sane person and a warrior like Thor should have been able to escape that a lot easier. "Why did Logan Paul make the illegal punch?" Because of desperation, Thor was not desperate when Hulk was hitting him like that. Stop acting like pulling away or hitting back is hard for Asgard's sake.
"The lighting hit Hulk from behind" you mean like Hulk's punches did? Either they're both cheap shots or they're both fair plays, you decide. You can't just pick the one you like and discard the one you don't like.
5: I mean if Obi Wan himself said "don't try it" implying he knew what Anakin was going to do, what should Anakin have expected? And no he wasn't exhausted; did he even look like he was exhausted?
5. Anakin took that the wrong way thinking he couldn't make the move. When your angry and clouded by the dark side you don't think rationally.
I know who Thor is and how powerful he is but sometimes you just have to take the L. It makes me question your IQ that you had to say that to be honest. I never said he becomes mindless after one hit.
I was the one you gave the scans. Why are you sending be scans for a comic I told you to read?
5: I thought I conceded on the high ground not being PIS and wrote that entire essay to add more to the argument that it was not by showing how in the RotS game when Anakin succeeds in jumperint over Kenobi, he does a similar move to what happened to Maul. Again the high ground is not PIS. There, I hope you don't still think I'm an Anakin fanboy who claims "anything I don't like like is PIS" because I'm not.
What's wrong with my IQ? Again all I'm doing is acknowledging the facts. Okay but even if being hit were to weaken Thor's ability to fight somehow (it won't) then he still shouldn't have been outperformed by the Hulk who has lime zero fighting skills. I will take the L once you justify why it makes sense for him to just let the Hulk hit him to death.
I sent a different scan from the one you sent to me, the reason I sent it was because that paragraph was actually something I sent to someone else on chat because they tried to argue the same thing I was arguing earlier and I forgot to change it up. Sorry for repeating myself (I normally don't do that too much bty and have promised to stop because I know it's annoying).
5. Don't think your a Anakin fanboy.
5: thank you.
Tell me this, an old man can build up a Lego structure, and a young kid can come and break it, tell me does that mean the kid >>> the adult? LMAO no
Second "feat" = Being split in two and screaming out of pain from one of Superman's attacks