NorrinRadd
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NorrinRadd
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Batman Well, they're both peak human so...
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Batman No, the literal numbers...the votes
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Batman Numbers don't lie
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Batman Batman literally is second to none, and I think T'challa is a greater tactician than Cap, Cap is just more popular
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Batman Base version Cap is peak human
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Batman The steroids analogy is merely to say that a unique external factor was used. Bruce trained to get to peak human and Steve had an experiment performed on him to get to peak human, that's the only difference.

Batman's feats are just as impressive as Captain America's ...and are humanly impossible, but not according to the comics
NorrinRadd
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Batman You said point out when he was boosted and I did. Storylines change all the time. Same goes for Cap, he could have been boosted in certain series, but who's to say it remains true in a new series. So if we're going with original main arcs they're both peak human.
NorrinRadd
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Batman Yes, you're both correct actually, he was able to regenerate to a greater degree than humans and it was from a previous storyline
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Batman Btw Batman was classified as a meta-human in 2017 after being exposed to dionesium metal (derived from Nth metal) for an extended period...he didn't gain "powers", but his abilities are now beyond human potential
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Batman Also in a Suicide Squad issue in 2017 he was classified as a meta-human
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Batman How can you say CA is beyond that, when you don't even know what "that" is?
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Batman Batman has the greatest strategical mind in the DC universe
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Batman "Legends of the Dark Knight" issues # 15-20:
Took the original version of the Bane venom

"Superman & Batman: Generations" 1999:
Used the Lazarus pit

"Superman/Batman" #53-56 (2008):
Magically gained Superman's abilities in a fight with Banshee

"Trinity" (2008)
Bruce became a god called Atmahn the Night Judge

"Batman: The Dark Knight/ Knight Terrors" (2011):
Fear toxin gives him super strength, enough to hurt Superman in a fair fight

"Injustice: Gods Among Us Year Five" #25:
Batman takes synthesized version of Alex Luthor's 5-U-93-R drug and beats Superman into submission

"Justice League" #38:
Amazo virus

"Darkseid War" 2015:
Mobius chair makes him god of knowledge

Bruce has also been a green, yellow, and white lantern at different times
NorrinRadd
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Batman Peak human is more super than any of us will ever be...they both have feats that we would consider to be impossible or above human potential, but the comics are stating that those feats ARE the maximum human potential
NorrinRadd
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Batman I was only referring to strength/physical abilities here...in the comic itself it said the SSS augmented him to the the peak of human abilities, so you're just making up the superhuman/300% thing...you can't argue with the original source material
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Superman It's pretty much a toss up for me. They both have unlimited strength so I don't see one being stronger than the other, though I think Superman is smarter, faster, and has more experience. This site says Shazam is immortal, so if that's true he'd be pretty hard to beat. Though I have seen Superman and Wonder Woman get the best of Shazam at times...probably due to experience. Magic doesn't specifically weaken Superman, but he is as vulnerable to the effects of magic as anyone else...can Shazam actually use magic or does he just get his powers from?
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Wolverine Yes, Cap has bested him on occasion in the comics (I wouldn't say he fully beat him), but that's just for the story. Wolverine is almost impossible to beat unless we're talking about someone with god level powers, his body doesn't tire and he can regenerate from virtually all damage. On paper, Wolverine wins 8/10 times.
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Wolverine According to Marvel's website Wolverine is stronger. He's also trained and fought for a century while Cap was on ice for most of a century. Plus, I mean indestructible skeleton, almost instant regeneration, never gets tired, etc. etc. do the math
NorrinRadd
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Batman Person A started strength training a few months ago and uses steroids. Person B has been training for years. Person A(merica) can now lift the same amount as person B(atman).
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Batman Cap is peak human, you're inferring something different that what Marvel directly stated
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Batman How is strategy not helpful in a fight?
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Batman SSS didn't affect his mind
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Batman I consider them to be physically equal since they're both peak human. They've both been boosted at times.
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Batman That's more than really close, it's dead even
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Black Panther According to Marvel the SSS made Steve peak human & the herb made T'Challa super human, so where are you getting your "facts" from?
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Black Panther Cap (peak human) can give him a fight, but BP (super human) is slightly superior in every way...stronger, faster, more agile, more durable, and is a greater martial artist & a better strategist having the knowledge of every Black Panther before him...has more tech including a vibranium suit with anti-metal claws that dissolve any metal
NorrinRadd
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Black Panther Technically in their standard forms the super soldier serum makes Captain America peak human, and the heart shaped herb makes Black Panther super human
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Batman Show me where it says the super soldier serum affected his brain, because I've never seen or heard that anywhere....& Batman is the greatest tactician in the DC universe, so...
NorrinRadd
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Batman IMO T'Challa (who has the knowledge of every Black Panther before him) is a better strategist than Captain America...Cap just appears in more comics so we've seen more on him
NorrinRadd
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Batman I agree with this site's classification/ranking... T'Challa > Bruce > Steve...but it's definitely close
NorrinRadd
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Batman It would be impossible for Cap to match Bats in fighting skill...Bruce mastered every fighting style on Earth, Cap was frozen for 75 years. How does the serum make him a better tactician? Makes no sense.
NorrinRadd
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Batman You mean the emblematic game of STRATEGY, to which you're implying Batman (the greatest tactician in the DC universe) would be better?
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Batman To say Cap is physically superior is one thing, (which I might be willing to concede and give him the slight edge), but to say he's as smart or smarter is so ridiculous. Batman is regularly considered to be in the top 10 or sometimes top 5 smartest people on earth in DC, & Cap is not even like top 30 in Marvel. Steve is definitely not smarter than Reed Richards, Valeria Richards, Bruce Banner, Tony Stark, Shuri, Professor X, Spider-Man, Ironheart, Hank Pym, Hank McCoy, Victor Von Doom, T'Challa, Amadeus Cho, Doctor Octopus, MODOK, Ultron, Norman Osborn, The High Evolutionary...to name a few
NorrinRadd
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Batman I get that people base their opinion of attributes on feats, but by definition, peak human can literally mean only one thing and would be the same in both DC and Marvel
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Silver Surfer With his power of molecular manipulation Surfer can just whip up kryptonite...game over
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Thor Would the transitive property apply? Thor has beaten Silver Surfer, and Silver Surfer would beat Superman, so...
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Batman Anyone who says Cap is superhuman is just making an assumption based on the fact that an external factor was used to give him his abilities and "super" is in the name of the serum and is ignoring that fact that marvel stated this is not the case and he is peak human...yes he has been enhanced to superhuman AT TIMES, but this is not usually the case
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Spider-Man Damn, you're right, I messed that up. Spider-Man still outclasses Cap in physical attributes (Cap is peak human, Spidey is superhuman), but maybe Cap can win with strategy, unless Peter is bloodlusted like when he broke into prison to "kill" Kingpin for putting Aunt May in ICU.
NorrinRadd
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Batman This is closer than most people think. BTW Cap is not superhuman, they are BOTH "PEAK HUMAN," and both have performed "superhuman" feats. Basically, one of them trained for decades and one of them took PEDs to arrive at the same level physically. However, it would not be crazy to say that Cap slightly edges him in durability and stamina because of this. Batman has superior combat skills having mastered ALL martial arts, but in my mind what wins is intelligence & ingenuity, which Batman also wins. To me, as a character Batman is more like Black Panther than Captain America.

Batman wins 6 or 7 out of 10 times
NorrinRadd
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Batman How is it inaccurate if you've proven my point? He'll "cheat" if he has to. He wants to win at all costs.
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Batman Cap is 100% NOT a better tactician. Black Panther is closer to Batman in that regard.
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Batman False, they've both reached 100%. Besides you can't reach more than 100%, whatever level you reach that is the max IS 100% even if you think of it as 300%. 100% = MAX/ALL. Both are defined as peak human, there is no difference.
NorrinRadd
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Batman Okay, forget the fact that Batman has taken down multiple members of the justice league (and beings like Darkseid with special equipment and/or just strategy) Here's the difference: Captain America likes to fight, Batman likes to win. He will avoid the fight if he thinks he will lose and determine another way to win. He will sacrifice the battle if it means winning the war.
NorrinRadd
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Batman He said it was conceivable, and that would after hours if not days...assuming Batman lets it go that long. He has gear that can take on the justice league and beings like Darkseid
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Batman Even though he's a better combatant/martial artist?
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Batman So you're saying they're both peak human but not? One peak human is different than another peak human? Makes no sense. The means were different but the end result is the same.
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Batman Frozen for 70 years = more experience? What "inner powers"?
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Batman Wolverine or Spider-Man would beat either one of them (Batman or Captain America)