I'd rather be a Grey Jedi. The Lantern Corps are cool, but there's none I really fit into apart from Green. But as a Grey Jedi, I can basically live the same life I do now, just with the ability to draw on the light and dark sides.
I don't know what Hal Jordan Spectre is I just saw it on this site and thought it looked cool I'm assuming it's just Spectre with a lantern ring in that case Spectre plus lantern ring > regular Spectre
Post-Crisis Hal has MFTL+ speed in the quadrillions. Luke has MFTL+ speed in the ten thousands. So even though they're both MFTL+, Luke can still get blitzed. Infinite Hal's would be necessary because Luke is a literal infinity beyond him. Hal is multi-galaxy level at most. That's 3D. Luke is at least universal. That's 4D.
That is the sans reson I think silver surfer beats Luke Luke might be faster than light but silver surfer crosses galaxies in just a few panels assuming these are the smallest Galaxies he is still going septillions of time faster than light
Because there's several matchups that would be great fights... if one of the combatants wasn't overwhelmingly faster than the other. Equalizing speed makes it possible to have many more matchups that aren't one-sided.
Hey @LordTracer,
I'm on the verge of becoming an Editor. @Galactus told me to find a mod to check the characters he gave me to edit. You're one of the most experienced mods I know. You know your stuff, and i was wondering if you could check the characters I edited, and review them in the comments page. @Galactus said if the mod I asked (that's you), gave me the thumbs up, I would become an editor. The characters I have edited are Howard The Duck and Sherlock Holmes. Thanks.
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There's numerous Star Wars characters with MFTL+ speed, you'll have to be more specific. Though honestly, any trained Jedi Knight-level character could obliterate Elsa. They're all large star level, she's island level.
They are not all large star level and if they are I want to see ahsoka or someone like that force punching planets into each other also Jason solo dose not beat Wonder Woman as Diana is solar system level vs Jason who is only multi planet level
Yes, they are. In Star Wars: Mythology, the clash between two PADAWANS was enough to warp a planet into a blue star. Any trained Knight should scale to this. And no, Jacen Solo is not only solar system level at his peak. Before even being knighted, and being cut off from the Force, Jacen was able to survive torture that Jedi Master Kyp Durron, who not only scales to the feat from Mythology, but has also manipulated a black hole (easily a solar systemic feat), said that he couldn't imagine anyone surviving torture on that level. He implied that not even Luke, who by this point was far stronger than his peak in Dark Empire, could survive that. So that's already solar system level stuff, at the very least. Jacen's peak level is when he achieved Oneness with the Force, which allowed him to completely fodderize Onimi. For reference, Onimi would slap Shimrra Jamaane, who was not only compared to Darth Sidious in terms of power, but also outmatched Grand Master Luke. Immediately after losing Oneness, he managed to create an antidote to Onimi's poisons by using his tears.
There's even more feats that put Jacen casually at solar system level if not above that, so don't try to tell me what his peak is when I clearly know more about the EU, and especially this character.
No, but she was close. Most of the time, the most powerful during the Old Republic was Emperor Valkorion. In certain scenarios (that being if you play as the Sith Inquisitor during KotFE), then Darth Imperius/Occlus/Nox is the strongest. He/she eventually absorbs Valkorion's Force spirit and can use his power whenever they want.
As for Revan, after she became a Grey Jedi during Shadow of Revan, she was the second strongest, behind Valkorion. If the Inquisitor is played during KotFE, then Revan is the third strongest.
No lord I wasn't trying to tell how to write your characters I respect your characters there yours and I know that I was trying to point out the writing style they how we the creators can make the characters but have a bad story heartstone is your character but when you told her back story I'm not try to you how to write it but you could seem that her powers are a gift the story was a bit shaky but it could used to be a good story. So in the end your right I'm sorry what I said and respect your character I was pointing out the story in the form the story telling we have to day is kind **** from the years we've had in the past.
Her powers are a gift though. She is given them by a cosmic abstract known as The Heart of the Megaverse, which is the entire reason she survives her attempted suicide.
Thanks I'm sorry for saying it's a weak story is ok but not good I have my like said they have one to line names ladyluck is the one the mains crimson is my favorite.
Hhahahahaha MCU Thor Large planet lvl hahahaha. U can make me laughing even after having a hard day. Thor cannot even destroy even a city and u are talking about Saturn/Jupiter.
No, your blatant bias against the MCU would be laughable if it wasn't so irritating. Especially since I already destroyed you in this debate on your ArthurCurry89 account. The fact that you say Awakened Thor isn't even city level just shows that you're biased and cannot be taken seriously. But just to prove you wrong anyways, how about you take a look at this calculation that puts base, unawakened Thor at mountain level. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Thor_busts_Sokovia_recalc_(MCU)
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@LordTracer, I've been working on a later battle for my SoulCollector Graveyard forum, the battle is Godzilla vs Optimus Prime and I have feats for Godzilla, but finding some for Optimus Prime is very difficult and inconsistent. And I remember you having a vast knowledge on the Transformers mythos and I was wondering if you could help me with it?
The Bedlam Spirits, The Father of Mortis, Abeloth, The Son and The Daughter of Mortis and Darth Nihilus can definitely do it. Grand Master Luke, Darth Sidious, Darth Nox, Emperor Valkorion, Darth Caedus, Revan, Yoda, Darth Plagueis and Meetra Surik can do it if Flash doesn't instantly speedblitz.
Okay father son and daughter of mortis would destroy flash it isn't a debate there flash could take out all of ableoths avatars but true form ableoth no question there but I feel like flash could use the speed force on everyone else
Because that's a way they easily win. And speed doesn't even need to be equalized. If Barry doesn't instantly speedblitz, he'd lose. Even if he did, a speedblitz wouldn't work on Nihilus.
Nihilus is non-corporeal and is nothing but dark side energy. Flash literally cannot touch him. And Barry has morals, he would not use Thawne's tactics.
@tracer how dose galatcus treat his Harolds (@mop said you know a lot about galatcus) and would you rather be a Harold for galatcus or a host for the Phoenix Force?
The Omega Effect is what gives Darkseid his power, and it's somewhat relative to him. There's Force wielders that are stronger than Darkseid, so Force > Omega Effect.
DanCo is severely overrated, he's a pretty cool person and I've spoken to him personally, very intelligent, but in terms of debating or scaling, he is a rookie.
I'm not Tracer but it seemed interesting so I tried to look at it but I need to request access. Go to top right and click "Share", then send him the link
HEY. You seem to me like some one who is used to getting his or her way. You have exceeded the limit of ocs, mostly copying already made character pictures. So how did you exceed the limit. Also, I have tried adding a character, but most of my suggestions get rejected, including Marv from Sin City, and Woozy winks. So how do yoou get whatever you want on this site? I really want to know, bro.
The images of the characters being copied are not the problem (and I changed them, so it's not copying), the problem is when you completely copy an already existing character. And I am able to exceed the limit because I'm a moderator, and our limit is higher than that of a normal user.
Gamora literally said Power gem is only effective against organic beings, bigger object then bigger dose and u must affect objects by direct, physical contact.
Such ABCD logic doesn't work there. Sorry but VSBW wanked those feats. Not mentioning how they downball Arrowverse characters.
You mean why was pre-Awakening Thor disabled by an electrical net made by the Grandmaster, someone who's been detaining superpowered individuals for a long period of time?
And if u want to refere to this moon pulling feat by Thanos he only ripped surface apart of Moon which was much smaller than ours and was much closer to planet ( with very weak gravity )
Ok i understand Thor taking this star force and i believe in this fan calculation ( thx god not wanked to galaxy lvl or downballed to city lvl ). But this is Thor durability mainly heat resistance. Hulk can K.O. Thor because the fact Thor's flesh is nigh unbreakable it doesn't mean he is resistant to trauma.
People exaggerate Hulk only by stupid scaling bla bla bla like should be on Hela, the Mjolnir buster lvl and Uru's melting point is temp. of NS surface. Thunder amped Stormbreaker only created minor crater in Wakanda. Thor is not on Hela lvl not even close. For me Hulk at best is Leviathan K.O.er. I do not care off statements or off screen feats like DCEU Supes tectonic plate shifter ( Maybe in future movies DCEU heavy hitters will be that strong ). Axe was specially forged to repel IG power and Thanos wasn't traiting anybody seriously in movie.
If u love VS Battle wiki and it ABCD logic + scaling system so much, then they are Arrowverse haters because Ollie constantly was barely reacting to Flash or has super aim. Supergirl tanked continent lvl explosion and scales to Reign barely. Or Kara can enter speeds to come back in time etc.
And one thing: In vs battle wiki there is also sth called durability negation like having power which can bypass durability ( AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW ENEMY STRONG IS ) and cw has phasers or mind manipulators.
Heat resistance nothing, it's just durability. And considering that Hulk is capable of harming him (trauma would not affect someone with country level durability if they are being hit by something with far less than country level power), it makes Hulk country level. Now, everything you said after this, about Hela, Stormbreaker only making a crater, etc, etc, is your assumptions and denial of what is clearly shown and calculated and means nothing. And everything you said about VSBW is also completely irrelevant.
MCU Hulk country buster ?! MCU Thor planet buster ?! Are u drunk ? If u haven't watch CW series then do not comment. Supergirl on screen is casual milion ton lifter and could trade blows with Reign who is real instant planet shaker. Loool
I think the real question is, have you even taken a look at some of the MCU feats and understand how powerful these characters are? Well, it's clear you haven't since you vote against them at nearly every turn. Awakened Thor's feat of covering Wakanda in lightning when he made his glorious entrance in Infinity War was calculated out to be country level. ——
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Not only that, but Awakened Thor also has the durability to withstand large country level attacks, as calculated here:
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Not only is Hulk somewhat comparable to Awakened Thor, he managed to stagger Surtur, who is stronger than Awakened Thor and Hela. Therefore, Hulk is country level. And as for planet level Stormbreaker (Note, I said Stormbreaker, not Thor), it was able to cleave through a blast made by the completed Infinity Gauntlet. The Power Gem alone was calculated to be large planet level, on two different occasions.
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You should change that image of your's which looks immature so you don't get your mod taken away. Unless if you want to keep it that way I can't change your mind it just looks inappropriate.
Well just got a new tablet for my birthday . Also gained my privilege to be on this site again (I got in trouble😂) So I've been pretty well . Also went bowling yesterday on my b-day . So other than not being on this site for 2/3rds of the month I've been really good
Lordtracer I found from the dc wiki you can you use it if you want"The Fifth Dimension is an inter-dimensional reality that exists outside of the normally accepted space/time continuum. Due to its five dimensional properties, this reality functions off of a completely different set of physics than those found in typical three dimensional environments."
What would happen if Heartstone at full speed infinite mass thrust onto Lionman? Would he survive her... You know... Erhm...? Say she's from the other end of the universe, and she thrust him at full power and speed, what happens?
Please kill yourself if you will I will really appreciate that. First off, no. Second off, what is your problem? the problem is you suck no i say that to brtnrt lol
Hey I see you also really like the sentry, do if maybe I can add him some powers that he is missing to make him stronger? Also im sure you did but if you didn't can you put 100 in his intelligence and durability in your ustats?
Please, read what I said in the Thor vs Superman battle page. Since you voted for Superman, I would love to hear your reasoning of Superman beating a character like Thor
Look, Thor has a very good chance of defeating the Man of Steel. Thor's the physically strongest being in the Earth-616 universe, like how Superman/Wonder Woman are the physically strongest beings in the Prime Earth universe. However, Superman is faster. And even though Thor is (arguably) more powerful than Superman, I find it hard to believe that any non-cosmic entity can handle Superman pummeling them at super speed for an extended period of time.
If Wonder Woman and Superman are the most physically strongest beings in their universe, that is pitiful. Thor has been shown to lift way more than Superman and Wonder Woman combined. Also, how can Superman be faster if Thor has way better feats. For durability, If Thor can resist three blasts in a row from Celestials and get up like nothing happened, I know for a fact Superman can punch Thor all he wants for Eternity and not do anything to Thor
Of course your not going to change my opinion with an argument like that. You have given me no factual and logical reasoning for why Superman will beat Thor. The facts have Thor winning
