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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 13 d
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And we're back to you.

I've only gotten Vayne and Varus so far, but I can def say after reaching lvl 5 with her, I'm not returning. Varus, though, has grown on me a bit now that he's at 2 stars. Definitely not my favorite by any means, but workable. What's Tahm and his deck like?

Who all do you face before ASol? I assume there's at least 2 mini bosses? But if you're thinking you need legendary powers certainly gives me pause. Jax into Zilean would work quite well although if it's a 3.5 + star mission, we need at least 2 mini bosses. I'd say Kai'Sa, but she's already got her own mission. For Ixtal, I'd say Qiqi def needs to be the final boss with Nid being the first mid-boss and then Malphite. I would like to see them flesh out every champ's own personal missions, though. At least finish the ones that have 2/3 of their missions in.

I will admit I have a rather high read speed, but that's mostly because I taught myself how to speed read a long time ago. One of the things I appreciated about the book was that it was broken up into a lot of small chunks so it's easy to get to a stopping point.

Tbf, we only see Viego fighting after Isolde has died and he's been denied access to the waters of life, so he's a bit on the unhinged side to say the least. Plus Thresh is pushing him pretty hard too. Yeah, I think Viego would be able to give pretty much any of the t2s a hard time, although his durability might be an issue.

The story actually gives quite a bit of time to Ryze and Tyrus after they're introduced about half way through, so you won't be disappointed there. We also get Ryze's hometown of Khom that was in an arid land in the north. No other specifics past that. We also find out that the Rune Wars happen shortly after the Ruination and that they last several years, but not more than 30.

Yeah, now that I've seen his ability breakdown, I think he's gonna be pretty oppressive. Too much bulk and engage with some decent crowd control. I also noticed his passive had some true HP damage attached to it?

So... I'm not sure if he would actually be of the exact same dynasty as he could easily be related via Viego's mom, Lianor. I say that because Viego is stated to be the first of his house to have magical abilities because of his mother's blood.
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JLA1847
JLA1847 1 mo 12 d
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So basically, Tahm's deck mostly has self damage units or spells/units that heal said units, so what you want to try doing is just kinda get board control over time as each time your unit survives damage they get +1/+1, the deck is also pretty darn focused on Tahm and i SOOOOOOO wish i had Warmogs Armor so i could give him regen, if i had that relic i have no doubt in mind he would be one of the best in Path because it would just be so hard to remove him and how good he is at removing key units, oh and of course any unit with regen is just insane with him due to the said +1/+1 on surviving damage. Really darn fun but ye Tahm+Soraka is likely still my most played deck in regular play anyways.

Oh boy so Asol... First... Every fight is a champion fight, and every champion starts with a legendary power + something extra, and then there are, hmm, id say 5 major bosses with Asol not being included, another huge huge problem is that you do not get a healer before Asol as you need to fight 2 fights back to back before him, one of them being the 2nd hardest in the whole adventure imo at least, so overall i think for a lot of path champions he is legitimately unbeatable. Hmm if 3.5 star then could just be Jax into Zilean and then into Bel'veth, or Bel'veth could be replaced with one of the ascended (preferably Renekton or Nasus since they havent appeared in Path yet). Yes ideally before adding new regions i would prefer if every champ had at least 2 personal missions,

Yeee im kinda the opposite, whenever i try speed reading i feel as if i will miss something so i just take it at a reasonable pace. I see i see, well only an extra reason to go and get it then.

He would probably have the hardest times against very experienced/smart fighters who could work around and try and get a direct hit on him (Leblanc being a possible bad one depending on scenario of the fight), or just those who are too durable for his TK (best example Nautilus) in which case he would likely lose by default. Oh and btw depending on your opinion we could even add said Viego as we already have the King Viego skin for the image, i happen to be quite a fan when it comes to adding more versions of same characters after all.

Oh i always thought the Rune Wars happened slightly before the Ruination not the other way around, guess i was mistaken, it being several years though makes sense considering the scale of magic used in the confict, if they were any longer who knows how many people there would even be left around at the end.

Uhhh yea not only does he have true damage its, %Max Health true damage which, i could go on a 2 hour rant just about how much i "Dislike" that existing in the game, and how shit the concept is overall. No champion should ever have %max health true damage. That rant aside i feel his kit is in general overloaded in a way that just makes him the clear best choice in almost any situation as he is, both a tank, engager and a bruiser, or well deals bruiser-ish ammounts of damage, not a fan.

Thats... a really damn good point huh, it was never specified what country Vladimir was a prince of anyways, and considering the magic thingy you mentioned it should be essentially impossible for Vlad to be part of the main house.
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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 12 d
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I'm going to have to run him once I get him unlocked as I do have warmog's armor... And so he's essentially got that one power that gives you the +1/+1 from the start? That's pretty useful.

Holy crap that sounds insane. Yeah, you'd need some crazy powers just to get by in that kind of gauntlet while no doubt being in the high 20's level wise. I think I'd honestly prefer the ascended get all put into their own campaign likely going Renekton -> Nasus -> Xerath. Now that'd need to be a really hard campaign, but could be pretty satisfying to beat. I do like Jax -> Zilean -> Bel, though.

I just always found it came quite naturally to me.

I mean, I see no reason to not add a mortal Viego now that we have seen him in action and have a suitable skin. Between his TK and Sanctity, he's a pretty big threat to anyone that's unprepared for that combo. I do agree with your assessment that he'd have trouble with LB and get wrecked by Naut. I think he'd be able to fight on fairly even footing with Illaoi but she always has the insta kill as he's the incarnate form of anti-movement.

From the diary entry that we get at the end, it's definitely implied that the destruction of Helia was a big catalyst for the beginning of the Rune Wars. Not to spoil anything, but Helia had some very powerful artifacts (among other things) that were released after the Ruination. I would say the wars lasted at least 5 years as the diary entry definitely refers to it as having ended at least several years prior and there is a 30 year gap between the entry and the Ruination. Give a few years for Helia to get pillaged and another couple for powers to square up...

Oh damn, I did not realize that's what that meant. I thought he was just getting true damage based on his HP stat. That's stupid broken and will likely need to be removed from his kit to say the least. While I don't mind the idea of a champion that can be built in a variety of ways to fit different roles, this is taking it way too far. I know they need to make champs good on release, but plz no.

Yes, Vlad's origin is... uncertain to say the least. I would assume he's originally from a subsumed kingdom named Zavala, as that's Lianor's home city/kingdom and the only link Viego has to magical abilities. And seeing as Kalista has none, we can safely eliminate both Alvaro and Nivora as the donors of the magic gene. I think if we get more novels, I would like one about the end of Shurima (which was still prominent at the time of the Ruination) and one on the Rune Wars as well.
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JLA1847 1 mo 10 d
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Well ye thats his level 1 star power, his level 2 iirc (Dont have it unlocked yet) is that, whenever you eat a unit you get a copy of the card in hand and it costs 1 less, which does sound pretty good too especially if said unit keeps its items.

Uhhuh yea about that, i only managed to beat him once with Garen who i have at level 25 and 3 stars, also managed to RNG 3 "hold it's" which would thankfully lock most of his board every turn, AND STILL, i think i only won because uh, the legendary power Asol and others get is always random, and i thankfully managed to stumble on an easy one, oh and all the champs aside from Asol are also random.

Oh yea right Illaoi would likely be a very who gets who first sorta matchup. Still uh you wanna request him then or should i? Figured its probably better for you considering you have a lot more Viego and etc knowledge compared to me.

Hmmmm, released by those who managed to escape from the Shadow Isles just before the ruination or? Because i imagine people didnt just visit the isles that much after the ruination, at the same time you did mention the pillaging but i doubt thats the entirety of it due to how dangerous it is to travel to the isles? Either way i see i see, it should definetely be at least a few years up to a dozen or a bit more for the Rune Wars then, very nice that it got specified.

I do like champions who have variety of buildpaths too i just, dont like when champions are kinda hard-set into being counterpicks, because anyone who has %max health true damage will always kinda be that, a counter to tanks/bruisers etc soo the only way for them to be balanced is that, either the %max true health damage is very irrelevant (1-2% sorta deal) at which point why have it there, or its a big part of their kit BUT then they have to be weak against squishier champs, which just gives us another counterpick that i hate as always.

Speaking of the lack of magicial abilities in them i thought it would be the opposite due to how important Camavor is for the eastern continent, always assumed they would be gifted in it since it would help a lot in actually establishing themselves as a power but i guess they could've just made up for that with the artifacts Camor and his descendants would find. Really Shurima was still important? Now that im really suprised on because i didnt think they would last long after Azir's Ascension, both due to the capital/ruling family being annihilated but also because most Ascended/Darkin got eliminated either between one another or Targon in the Darkin War that followed the failed ascension. (Or did they just change the timeline a bit because iirc Azir's Ascension came several hundred years before the ruination?) I would love a Shurima novel myself too though ofc, it starting off with maybe some Setaka stuff and the creation of the first ascended, going into Icathia which would be the first half of the book, then the 2nd half can be all the Azir+Xerath stuff.
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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 10 d
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Oh, yeah, I meant it was his lvl 1 power. And dang, that lvl 2 sounds really nice. I'll have to check how many wild shards I have.

I guess the legendary power being random makes things a little more fair, but I'd think they'd want each champ to have 2-3 possibilities that would aid their game play style. Might be a little hard to code though...

I can request him if you'd like. I'd probably do it as Viego (mortal) just for simplicity's sake.

So, the Ruination was an explosion and did appear to disgorge at least parts of the vault of Helia out into the world. Soon after people started raiding it because people only saw the explosion and only one ship managed to escape. It'd take a while and at least one survivor of the newly formed Shadow Isles for the danger to be communicated. Oh, would you like to know what did cause the Ruination or would you prefer I not say? Because the explanation prior to the novel is... simplified to say the least.

The whole mechanic is very feast or famine. Better to just scrap it and figure out another way to punish tanks with things like Armor/mr reduction and the like.

So, Camavor is such a dominant force because of the artifacts they have possession of (most notably Sanctity) and how well-tuned their military forces are. There do appear to be some mages (like Necrit) that assist on the battlefield. Well, Shurima was still around and probably still a regional power. The Ascended had definitely fallen by the time of the Ruination, as Zilean has a couple mentions in the novel as a scholar from several hundred years in the past. The Camavorans were aware of them and they still had envoys out in the world, but they were greatly reduced in power. Something akin to the ERE several centuries after the fall of Rome. What might be kind of cool for the Icathian and Setaka stuff is to have it written like Herodotus's The Histories and have it interspersed with moments of Azir preparing for his ascension with Xerath. Just an idea of how to make it flow well.

*Edit* I see you saw Naga's profile! I chose to leave her statless as what she's truly capable of hasn't really been fleshed out. Oh, I think I have Guardian Poppy finished if you wanna check her out.
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JLA1847
JLA1847 1 mo 9 d
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Prooobably it is but, from the now multiple runs ive had its completely random which legendary power they will get, ofc they get, both the legendary power and the usual one that their champion gets. 9/10 times that makes Tryndamere the hardest fight to beat outside of Asol cause his champion power is just something ive never been able to deal with easily.

Yes please please do go ahead, id love that.

Ah okay yea that makes sense, but yea id really like to hear about the full story of what caused it, cause yea i thought it was just because Viego tried reviving Isolde in the blessed waters? Granted that did always seem like a bit of an overreaction since surely someone must've failed getting healed and ended up dying in said same waters. (not exactly same thing as reviving someone dead but, close enough?)

You mentioned Sancity was especially important among the artifacts, so i assume it has some very special properties or? Oh damn even Zilean got mentioned? Thats really really cool, but yea i guess so, even Ascended aside Shurima was probably still the strongest nation in Valoran for at least some time after Azir's death so them being around and Camavor knowing about them is fine, i wonder if Shurimans were the only ones from Valoran that were aware of Camavor though. (Aside from Blessed Isles ofc) Very interesting and probably vastly better to write the said Shurima novel like that, could also make for some nice moments with Nasus and Renekton recounting what they saw in Icathia (or moments with Setaka) at the behest of young Azir who is either really curious about it himself or he just wants to help Xerath who is extremely interested in learning about Shuriman/Ascended history, would be nice for Azir to throw in some questions about the Ascension ritual that could show he always had his own ascension at least vaguely in mind.

Yea for now id definetely leave Naga empty too but as far as SG Poppy goes she looks great, well done!

Also also, K'sante's lore got added and seemingly Shurima lore was finally advanced, not in any major revelation but at least we know both Xerath and Azir are preparing by creating creatures to add to their battle strenght, Xerath creating Baccai by fusing nature with his power while Azir isnt specified but he is probably just ensuring his sand army is spread throughout Shurima. One way or another id say i like his lore a lot more than his gameplay.

Edit: Also also also, if you go to the store in LoR you can find a free card back giveaway due to League Worlds happening right now (It has Poros on it!) Just wanted to give a heads up if you didnt know
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vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 9 d
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Oh lord, I freaking hate Tryndamere. His power is so freaking obnoxious, although I think Tahm and Leona (alongside anyone that deals with units without killing them) could take him reasonably well.

I'll go ahead and request him then. Should I request K'Sante too?

So, essentially, the Waters of Life were built on top of a World Rune and it wasn't Viego reviving Isolde that caused the Ruination. So, after Viego revived her, Isolde's wraith was completely unhinged and enraged at being brought back. Viego was completely out of his mind with happiness that she was finally back and he let go of Sanctity. Isolde then grabbed and stabbed Viego with Sanctity, which started draining him of life. However, because he was still alive and in the waters he was being healed as he was being killed, which caused a feedback loop. That loop then made the Rune unstable and thus the explosion. Those that were still living when the explosion hit them essentially got to control how their wraith form manifested as well (Thresh was the only one that had complete control) while those that were dead had their form dependent on their last thoughts, which is why Kalista was obsessed with punishing betrayers.

Sanctity has a few powers outside of just the soul/life draining ability. Firstly, it was made before civilization existed on the Eastern continent (or at least that's how old they think it is) and whoever forged it did so in the spirit realm. It thus primarily exists in the spirit realm but can be summoned by those that are soul bonded with it. The sword is very picky about who it soul bonds with and kills those that attempt to bond with it that it doesn't like. Now, this isn't a worthiness thing like with Mjolnir, as anyone can wield it after it has been summoned. Instead the soul bonded can summon and return the blade to the spirit realm at will. There's some implication that those that are bonded get some kind of physical boon and less of a need for sustenance, but that's not confirmed. But, yes, Viego actually uses Zilean's diaries to figure out where the Blessed Isles are (and Ryze reads one of Zilean's treatises that are kept in one of the Isle's libraries). Wouldn't call him a genius by any means, but Viego's quite clever when he sets his mind to it. So, based on the limited interactions with non-Blessed Isles "foreigners" we get in the novel, pretty much everyone in Valoran is at least vaguely aware of Camavor as a power on another continent. The Shurimans were probably the only ones that had real dealings with them as the rest of the people just regard it as a Medieval serf might regard accounts of China. I quite like the idea of Renekton and Nasus somewhat tutoring Azir as well especially once we put it in the framing that Azir both wants to understand his coming duties better as well as helping his completely non-treacherous friend. The questions about the ritual would be especially good as they both clear things up for us and makes sense in the story.

Cool cool. I've released Poppy into the wild. I think we've got everyone for the Guardians now?

Oh, cool. Definitely like us getting that plot moved forward a bit, especially in a way we had theorized about in the past. I'll have to read through it when I get the chance later.

Omg, that is so freaking adorable.
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JLA1847 1 mo 8 d
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Suprisingly i had a really easy time against Tryndamere today when i played Ornn, granted i still got absolutely destroyed by Asol right after but hey that was suprisingly nice! Finally managed to use Ornn to beat Thresh too, kinda wish i didnt use all my wild frags on Tahm cause i still dont have a Targon champion unlocked yet (aside from Yuumi but i do not wish to go there yet)

Uhh yea you can do K'sante too, we pretty much got everything we gonna be getting from him for a little while so should be good.

Okay now that is much much better and i prefer this version so much more too, never would've even imagined a World Rune took part in causing the Ruination but it does make sense, something quite strong would be needed to cause a calamity of such level after all, i wonder if Ryze or Tyrus had any reactions to it since its probably (at least for Ryze) one of the first times they would see a World rune be "misused"? Oh and thanks a lot for the info of course!

Sanctity is quite special to say the least then, it might even be the strongest weapon currently wielded by anyone? The other contenders would probably be Braum's Door, The Chalicar and Ne'zuk's gauntlets buuuuut, reason why i wouldnt rank those higher is that the Door isnt really too effective in combat unless you are Braum, while Sivir and Ezreal clearly cant use anywhere near the full power of their weapons as Chalicar has the power of 8 ascended sealed into it while the Gauntlet "is" a world rune and neither of them are anywhere close to those levels, if those two were to be used at their max then i would definetely put them above Sanctity though. Didnt think Zilean would be anywhere near that important for the story of Viego/Blessed Isles, even if its just his diaries/books by proxy he is still very important, very nice from Riot to include it though because he did need some love and this is probably the best way to go about it imo at least. I guess it does just show how dominant Shurima was during their peak if they had connections to Camavor/Eastern Continent even after Azir's failed ascension, and now that i think about it, it wouldnt make sense if Shurima didnt know about Camavor considering Vladimir was given away to Shurima/Darkin as a hostage to prevent an invasion, with that in mind Shurima was probably very easily the strongest nation on Runeterra at their highest point which isnt too suprising considering the existance of the Ascended. Other than that yea id especially like the Xerath/Azir stuff in the Shurima novel, because eventhough i think their stories already establish their relationship very well, id like at least a bit more now that we are seemingly reaching the finale of their conflict.

I did think all the Guardians were done too, but i decided to go ahead and check just in case and the results of my enquiry were disturbing to say the least... We have missed one... the demonic existance that is Seraphine herself!

Yep yep, just a nice Bio and an extra story to go with it, like the Bio more since its a lot more important to the world in general too but the story itself finishes up his relationship with Tope which is also nice.
vonKonigsberg
vonKonigsberg 1 mo 8 d
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Oh wow, that's impressive. I will say I have Leo and Diana unlocked and neither feel that great, but I don't have either of their powers unlocked yet.

I'll request him then. I did read through his bio and quite liked it. Definitely appreciated that his relationship with Tope was important but not defining like they usually make it.

Yes, I much prefer this version of events as it provides an actual reason for the explosion (the cascade event) while still keeping the basics of what we knew there. I also appreciated that it explains why some wraiths maintained more of themselves than others. As per Ryze and Tyrus, they did witness the events, but they had other things on their mind and probably only arrived at that conclusion years later. I do think a novel about the Rune Wars needs to be explored now.

Of the weapons that are actively used by champs, I'd definitely say Sanctity has the most power available to its user out the gate. Especially once you consider it seems to have absorbed some of the powers of the Ruination itself. Of the ones you mentioned, I'd also add in Illaoi's Heart of the Goddess because it's the idol most closely connected to Naga and Stormrazor as it allowed Yas to control the wind over the entirety of the Serpent/Shadow Isles. But, yes the Gauntlet and the Chalicar would likely be the most powerful if they could be fully accessed. Yes, Zilean gets quite a few mentions, but his writings still seem to be rather obscure which fits quite well. Yeah, uh, the Ascended would be quite difficult to stand against even if the target had a vault of magical relics. I do think Camavor probably came about towards the end of Ascended Shurima based on context clues left about. And even after the fall, I'd assume event the threat of an attack by the Darkin/Ascended would be taken very seriously. Having the relationship in the book would also provide a good emotional ending for the book while not alienating those that aren't super familiar with the lore. I do have to give Ruination credit for being so accessible, as I've recommended it to several colleagues who've enjoyed it quite a bit without knowing what League even is.

I would be lying if I said Seraphine's non-inclusion was an accident... πŸ˜… I think we also missed Soraka, as I couldn't find her when I tried to make a battle between the first 2 teams.
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JLA1847 1 mo 6 d
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I havent played Leona myself but ive seen a friend play her and, she really needs her 3rd star to truly start working properly, but when she does get it she seems pretty strong, not among the strongest path champs but just below them id say. Got no idea on Diana tho.

Yeap id say they struck more or less the ideal balance to it where Tope was important but was also a side-point to his story, while also still being important to his main conflict by technically allowing K'sante to beat the Baccai through his diary. Overall really nice Bio, among favourites (if not favourite) this year granted it could just be that im biased for more Shurima lore.

Very true cause as far as the wraith stuff is concerned i just thought everyone became a more Insane/unhinged version of what they were up to varying degrees, along with fusing with anything nearby in Hecarim's case. Hmmm even if they wanted to keep Rune Wars more of a secret, a journal-like novel that follows Ryze and his adventures collecting World Runes after the Rune Wars could work, although ofc i would also splash in some minor flashbacks to the Rune Wars to give us some much needed exploration of the era while still not completely unveiling it.

Oh right i forgot about those two completely, And i mean Illaoi's idol is technically the strongest of them all but only if the person using it is favoured by Naga, otherwise not really of much use. Either way uh yea Camavor probably came around somewhere between Azir's Ascension and The Great Darkin War, at least judigng by you mentioning that and the whole 10 generations thing, would roughly fit into the timeline and make sense with the Vlad thing too. Wow really? Thats great to hear because well first i can only imagine how much i or someone else who is invested in the lore will like it, but more importantly because im both really happy to see that and i do actually believe Riot is great all around at making their stories accessible, the only problem is that they are absolutely terrible at marketing their stories. Right now and basically ever since its start people would always try the game out first and get into the lore if they liked it but honestly if they were good in marketing their lore i could even see it being the other way around. But well the whole universe or wiki "system" isnt really enticing to say the least. (Oh and i do think its not possible for it to happen anymore due to just how massive League as a game is but in the past i could've easily seen it)

Unfortunately requesting her was inevitable too... Fuck, i actually missed Soraka too eventhough i literally went through each and every SG skin! Whelp, at least we caught onto it eventually, you wanna request them both, neither, or?
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Oh, that's lame. She'll have to sit in my backlogs until I can build her up then. Honestly never been a fan of Daybreak as it makes me feel very constrained in how I play unless I have the follower that makes it always Daybreak. Nightfall's easier to work around, so maybe I'll give Diana a shot soon. I have been playing Tahm some in Path and I definitely have to agree he's quite fun, especially with Warmog's equipped. I'm focusing on getting Varus to level 20 first, though, for the battle pass thing.

I did think it was quite well done and K'Sante (and maybe eventually Tope) make good reps for the LGBTQ community. I also listened through some of his dialogue and he seems to think Rammus is one of Xerath's Baccai, which I find absoultely hilarious... Crap, now I'm worried they're gonna make that canon..

That's how I thought it worked too, but this explanation just makes all of the various mental states of the wraiths make sense. And it appeared less like you got combined with whatever was around you and more like what was near and had meaning to you. We actually get to see some minor wraiths like a scribe that's had his scrolls integrated into his "body" while everything else was left mostly intact. That also explains Hecarim integrating with his horse, armor and weapons because those were a core part of his identity. Maybe for Ryze's book, it could focus on his time mentoring Brand and their pursuit of the Runes? That way maybe we can have a little bit more framing on the flashbacks as Ryze trying to talk about why you don't abuse this power while Brand takes the stories in the exact opposite way?

Yeah, the Idol is definitely not something you can pick up and use and most people would straight up die if they tried. That's about where I would put its rise too and that would make Vlad's hostageship fit well too. I've been quite happy that I've been able to expose people to the lore this way too and one of them's asked if there's anymore they can read. I did guide them to the right area, but like you said, it's not exactly a super easy thing to find. I think the comics deal with Marvel was the right direction, but they really should've gone with a different publisher like Boom! or Dark Horse imo. But between Ruination and Arcane, I think League's lore is finally getting out to more people at the very least and I hope they can keep putting those out there, although the novels would likely be the easiest route. Or maybe they could partner with Webtoons and make shorts there? I know DC's been finding success with that to garner interest in their properties.

I would offer to request them, but there's a new Magic set on the way with quite a few characeters that have been in the lore for decades finally getting cards, so I'm going to be busy with that in the near future.
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The daybreak does become more managable as uh, one of Leona's stars makes it so that all of her cards are Daybreak cards, so you are guaranteed to get a daybreak effect per round, as long as you can play any cards that is, but yes i dont overly enjoy either daybreak or nightfall, i think they are good concepts just not for me. I see i see, i will just try to level up Yuumi i guess, very slowly though cause, yea still got no stars on her so adventures are incredibly hard even the 1.5 star ones.

Yes yes his dialogue is pretty funny overall but Rammus part especially, i doubt we ever gonna find out what our favourite armordillo really is tho, besides well an armordillo.

Hmm interesting, does make more or less all the wraiths more intriguing due to that extra info, or any that have fused with anything, shows more what they were like before i suppose. Oh yes yes absolutely, ideally, i would start the book with Ryze trying to find an apprentice and hearing about "a fire mage from Freljord", the book slowly going through their relationship and it ending with Kegan finally giving into the world rune and transforming into Brand. Would also like if Ryze fought someone else who was using a World Rune just to show that Brand was fully aware of what it could turn someone into and what sort of power they really possessed, plus could be nice to see some of their teamwork with Ryze obviously pulling most of the weight but Brand still contributing through tricks he learned due to having to survive in such a harsh landscape or whatnot, and just being more familiar with Freljord.

Easily easily, Arcane is definetely the biggest change for how accessible League lore is as its both well, really easy to access for everyone AND it also happens to be executed extremely well, i can only imagine the hype when Season 2 actually starts getting released, if its anywhere like season 1 which i think is very possible or it could even outdo season one, then who knows whats the limit for it and league lore in general as it would definetely show to Riot that people want to see more. Personally though, while i do like Arcane and the show idea i would prefer the webtoon/short comics approach much more as i just think it works a lot better with a series like League due to the ammount of characters and stories it has to focus onto. Much easier to make 10 comics for 10 different characters than include all 10 in 1 big show.

Yea no completely understandable, whelp i dont really have anyone to update myself so if cool i could request one or both?
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I guess that makes it more manageable, but I still wish they had made Taric and/or Pantheon the Targon reps. Those two mechanics really only work for me as splash in and not the main focus of the deck. They're just too narrow imo.

I also like his line about Gwen getting away from him is great too. Honestly, I would prefer Rammus to remain an eternal mystery with every champ that runs into him offering their own take.

I just appreciate the clarification and I think it would make it easier to make future Wraiths. That's the exact path I was thinking for the novel. I'd definitely want some references made to Galio as either being under construction or having neutralized a rune perhaps. And, yes, we'd definitely need that confrontation with a Rune user probably towards the middle of the book as a nice act 2 battle.

Yes, Arcane was simply fantastic and absolutely nailed it when it came to being engaging for long time fans and ones that had never heard of it before. I do wonder when they're going to finally drop season 2. I've read a nebulous sometime in 2023 date, but I wish they hadn't let those coals cool so much. Yes, I do think the webtoons format would be overall more accessible while helping to maintain a steady amount of content regularly. Also, as you said, would allow more stories to get highlighted.

Go for it, you have my support to grab both.
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Yea preferably, id even far prefer Zoe as a rep for Targon, she could probably have a pretty nice playstyle focused about invoking, bit random for sure but unique compared to anyone we have now. And i mean i agree, overall out of the champs i played in path my 3 favs to play would be Garen, Evelynn and Ornn as i really just like stat buffers (Ornn grew on me after buffs and some levels, he still weakish tho), while the 3 i dislike playing the most are just Taliyah, Vayne and Varus.

If anything id love even more mystery about Rammus to be added, idk K'sante or Kai'sa finding an abandoned shrine with an image of Rammus but literally nothing else in it, just tells us info we already know while also making us wonder why he exactly has one dedicated to him.

Oh oh perhaps it could be hinted at that the Rune User caused some trouble in Demacia at the start of the book after which he escaped into Freljord, would give us both an extra reason for Ryze to go to Freljord, and thats when we can have Galio's construction being mentioned. Would also build up nicely to the clash between Ryze/Brand and the Rune user later on in the book as well as how Brand would become more or less exactly the thing Ryze was trying to stop in freljord, just even worse as i imagine the other user wouldnt fully fuse with the world rune perhaps? Either way yea uh definetely an end of act 2 sorta deal for the fight between them. Would absolutely adore the story as i do quite like Ryze.

Yea i heard 2023 as the release date too, but at the same time i do understand its a hard thing to balance. What i mean by is that its hard to balance shipping it out fast enough and giving it enough time to be made properly, iirc Arcane season 1 was in production ever since 2013 which gives it good 8 years of work, now... Riot easily has far more resources and definetely more of a reason to invest heavily into a season 2 considering how much of a success 1 is, but at the same time if they do rush it and it ends up bad the consequences could be even worse than not making season 1 to begin with sooo i just really have no idea, in an ideal world i think a late 2023 up to a mid 2024 release would likely be a good balance between the two, but at the same time not sure.

Gone ahead and requested them.
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Zoe could actually be quite fun, now that you bring her up, especially because her level up just requires her seeing different cards played. Allows a lot of splashability there. I probably play Annie, Gwen and Illaoi the most while I generally don't like playing Jhin, Veigar or Lux very much. I can get through games with Lux, but her starting deck is way too packed with high cost cards and it makes it hard to get traction early game. Overall I at least find most decks playable unless they're just way too focused on a gimmick.

Oh yes, definitely imply it comes from pre ascension days and add in some language that's too ancient and worn to read anymore.

Yes, that's an excellent way to tie it all together and allow us to explore the early days of Demacia while keeping the narrative laser focused on the over arching plot. I do wonder what our secondary antagonist's world rune would be though? The only two I really know about are the spiritual one from Ruination and Brand's fire rune although I assume they can be anything. Maybe pick something that would be weak to fire to give Brand a push to gain his own that would have an advantage?

Oh, no, I definitely prefer they take their time and give us a fully realized product, but I do worry about them losing the hype. Always a risk with streaming services. I really do hope we get the Vander Warwick you thought up, btw. He'd make an excellent secondary antagonist and add a nice tie into the previous season. I do kind've hope they make Arcane a 2 season show, though, so maybe we can focus on some areas after wards. Would legit love to see an Arcane style show focused on Bilgewater and some piratey goodness.

Cool, I've updated them. Mortal Viego seems to have been rejected btw.
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Yep yep, her star powers could just quite easily make invoking better, idk uh perhaps the 1 star upgrade could make her invoke a card every round start, 2 star could reduce the cost of all invoked cards in hand by 1, and then for 3 star they could increase the cost-loss to 2, and perhaps she would also get a 10 cost Invoke card if she doesnt already have one in hand, that way it makes her really potent later on when cards are on the short end but she also doesnt get to "discount" more than one 10 cost card at the same time. I see i see, the only champ i really cant stand playing in Path whatsoever is Taliyah, because i just really hate landmarks as a gamestyle.

Hmmmm i dont know why but a Darkness-based world rune feels just right imo. First it would be different from the other two we know but at the same time it would likely make for interesting combat as we dont really have a lot of darkness users (Shadow magic users aside but i dont count that as the same thing) but more importantly Brand could easily help out without directly going into conflict with said Antagonist too much, as he could support Ryze by trying to illuminate the area to weaken its effect.

Anything more than 2 seasons would be a bit too much i feel, another season would just be enough to finish up the leftover plotlines, which i guess would be, Viktor and Jayce splitting apart, Caitlyn becoming the Sheriff with perhaps some extra Noxus stuff since they've been building it up for a while now, and i can see Camille being introduced with that too. As far as an Arcane style show for other regions goes, easily Bilgewater, probably my number 1 pick, aside from them though i would maybe go with Noxus and exploring the changes that happened after Swain usurped Darkwill.

Thanks thanks! But huuuuuuuh... Thats, really disappointing tbh.
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Maybe instead of straight giving her the invoke at level one, it would instead just give her a fleeting copy of the card she spawns naturally, which would decrease to a zero cost if you get a strike in with Zoe. Definitely agree with the 2 star idea as it would be useful, but powerful. Hear me out for 3 star, but what if it made it to where you invoked twice the first time you did so each turn? I do like your's, but I can see it getting a little exploit heavy? I haven't unlocked Taliyah, but I straight up don't like landmarks either.

Oh, that's actually pretty cool and would be a fairly simple ability to classify as evil while also having a slight tie in to Ryze's experience on the Blessed Isles. And then too it makes Brand's fire abilities a less duh counter to it as well. Quite like that. Maybe even establish then that the rune had a corrupting influence on the individual who maybe originally had some positive idea for how to make use of its powers. Not sure what that would be outside of maybe shrouding parts of Shurima to make farming/travel more doable?

That's about what I figure makes sense for story elements to wrap up. Maybe have Cait's promotion to Sheriff happen because she successfully thwarts Warwick's rampage (with Vi's help) and gets him to return to Zaun to act as their violent savior. I quite like the idea of a Noxus show, ngl. Maybe do the first season of Swain setting up for the coup with the finale being him executing it while the next season covering him fully cementing his rule. Could make for some good TV. I'd also maybe like a series covering the Noxus invasion of Ionia or maybe a show reexploring the Warmother comic.

Yup, very disappointing. I'm going to try requesting him as Viego (pre-Ruination) and see if that takes.

Oh, I know you like HoI IV, but have you tried Panzer Corps II? I quite like the game because it's turn based and you actually get quite a bit of control over your path in the campaign (although you only get to play as Germany).
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Yea i prefer that for the one star upgrade, makes it less of a passive effect and just promotes active gameplay which is always a plus imo. I did have a similar thought for the 3 star BUT, the only reason why i didnt go with a similar idea is that i feel her hand could get too full in the early game, causing a lot of cards to get burned away. At the same time though, if the Zoe discounting on strike thing would apply to the 3 star copy too then it would likely be fine as she could have a chance of using the invokes. Well hey uh, i would vastly more reccomend going with Kai'sa as far as Shurima champs in path go, she is actually pretty fun too but really needs the star powers because her base deck blows without them.

Oh yes i love the corrupting part for reasons il mention later in the comment, however rather than Shurima though, i imagine him to be more of a Demacian individual due to the story starting there technically and it would make a lot more sense for him to end up in Freljord if he was Demacian. As far as him having good goals though i envision him as someone who was a much better version of Sylas as he would use his new Darkness-Rune-Magic to help other innocent mages escape prosecution while still not wanting to hurt non-mage demacians as he would understand the paranoia most Demacians still hold onto due to the rune wars, which would make sense since they would happen much more recently in the story compared to current times. However overtime the rune would slowly corrupt him making him more and more violent as time passes on even to the mages he once protected, with him finally snapping and causing a disastrous destrucion of a Demacian City or even outright obliterating it, him afterwards retreating to Freljord to self isolate while he still holds onto some form of sanity. That said event could be what draws Ryze to Demacia as he would likely know best only a human with a world rune could cause that much destruction so quickly. The reason why i would like this version the most is that the "villain" would both serve as an opposite and a mirror of what Brand would become, as he would be an opposite due to having truly good goals in mind while Brand mostly just wanted power, but in the end their fate would end up completely mirrored as they would both get destroyed due to said world runes.

Hmmm yea now that you mention it, perhaps the Noxus show could be split in those two parts, first being about Noxus before Swain's rule, it starting maybe just about the time the Invasion of Ionia started and ending with Swain usurping Darkwill, and the second half starting with Swain's rule and ending with current lore+some advancments in it. Idk i just think Swain would make for a pretty great protagonist and id really like to find out more about Darkwill and other important Noxians at the time like Marcus Du Couteau.

Well fingers crossed that it works, Viego is probably one of the champs who deserves 2 profiles the most due to the ammount of difference there is between them. And honestly the ammount of focus both "versions" get. (only counting main canon)

Panzer Corps 2 hmmm, never played it, do think i heard the name, will look into it though, probably just gonna start with looking at some gameplay though cause i have absolutely terrible wifi lately, downloading it alone would be a huge time investment.
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I believe she does discount on strike as part of her mechanic, so it would flow fairly well. Just so long as she's not another Veigar level disaster it'll be all good. Oh, right, Kai'Sa! I had completely forgotten about her being a Shurima champ. Guess my mind just catalogued her as generic Runeterran for some reason.

Ooooooo, I quite like that concept indeed, especially how he is a foil to both Brand and later Sylas. Could also maybe make the city/settlement become something of a beacon for the monsters that seem to come to Demacia (like the Harpies and later Nocturne) and lead to the formation of the monster hunting order Vayne was a part of. Quite a few good connections to build off of there that simultaneously ties quite nicely into the lore of the region. Excellent idea!

No, I definitely like Swain as a protagonist in this society based on essentially social darwinism. I think the build up with him slowly gaining the powers of Raum while also seeking to make alliances with the likes of Darius and maybe even finding Sion could be quite cool. And actually getting to know Darkwill and the previous rulership would frankly be the icing on top.

I would say he definitely deserves it too. The versions are so distinct and especially now that we have several extended sequences of him fighting as a mortal there's just no excuse.

Oh, no, I understand the hesitancy for a long download. Just thought it might be a game you'd wanna check out. It's especially polished for the level of release it is and you don't really need to even buy the DLC for it to be playable. All the DLC does is add a much more granular version of the main campaign.
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She shouldnt be, at least i think she wouldnt be, the only place where Zoe could suffer a bit is in terms of defense as i dont think there are any amazing defenesive targon cards that would fit into a Zoe deck (most of good ones are in Soraka/Taric decks more so), but just some extra studded leathers or whatnot with levels could change that i suppose, she would definetely not be super meta i imagine but still would be nice to have. Hard to blame anyone for that mistake considering how many "Runeterran" champs they've been releasing... unfortunately.

Damn yea thats pretty great as an extension to what we already had, great ideas really especially tying Noc and the monsters into it. Would also really like the settlement being mentioned in new lore because one thing thats kinda missing in Demacia is important locations. What i mean by that is, Demacia kinda feels like it really has nothing interesting in it aside from Demacia City, as barely anything of importance got mentioned outside of it, or so i feel at least.

Yep yep, aside from the Swain and Noxus politics parts i would have some minor plotlines for other important characters too. From what i can think of right now, maybe Samira's first missions and her joining Noxus which could be the more action packed part of the show, some Darius and Draven stuff thats a mix of action from the Samira part but also shows us the loyalty Darius has to both Noxus and Draven, maybe also some Kata/Talon parts that deal with intrigue mostly. And lastly but least so (by that i mean least screentime) we could have Leblanc/Black Rose parts that hint at what the ultimate plans to keep Mordekaiser out would be, cause i mean Morde getting mentioned in some way needs to happen but at same time this part should have the least screentime by a large margin as i feel it has the least to deal with Swain/Current Noxus and revealing too much in a fast manner could be a downside.

Oh no no i dont really have much hesitancy its just that, i have a limited wifi of only 250GB per month (i know, very stinky), and after those 250GB are spent my wifi speed drops into basically nothing annnnnd thats where i am currently this month, i can barely hit 80kb/s right now so i need to wait for november to actually download it. Speaking of which i did check the game out, and checked if i could run it, both seem completely good sooooo start of november i will try getting it.
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That's not too hard to work around. Just gotta be sure to pick Leo or some other bulky champ to fill in that hole in her capabilities. Yeah, I really wish that they would slow down on the Runeterra champs. There's just too many of them too quickly and it's really draining the novelty out of the whole thing.

I think putting the settlement into the lore would be fairly simple, especially with LoR in the picture. Just make it a landmark (I know) that is Shadow Isles/Demacia and spawns a fleeting Darkness into your hand when you do something. And yeah, Demacia is very underpopulated as is right now despite its importance to the ongoing narrative. I mean, maybe adding in the Petricite Valley or something could be a neat addition. Maybe Sylas could get his hands on an abandoned fort on the border between Freljord and Demacia.

Yes, definitely have to have Darius and Draven in there with it likely revolving around the arena? Not too sure about what all Samira was getting into at that time, but she's a definite inclusion. I'm also never gonna turn down some assassination action from those two. Maybe the Black Rose thinks that somehow Swain's ascension would fuel whatever ritual they need to do to free Mordekaiser? But, yeah, Morde should not be really seen at all and maybe only heard? Maybe there could be something to allude to Rell's story as well? I also agree with the sentiment of not wanting to reveal too much too quickly. Gots to get people invested.

That's fair. The game does take ~15 gigs (or so my Steam says). Oh man, my internet is just super crappy. Not sure of the exact numbers, but I usually can get about 1-5 mb per minute. 😬
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Ideally, in the next batch we either get 0 runeterra champs, or Aatrox can be one if they decide he isnt a Freljord one. Although yet again, he would fit into Freljord both from a lore perspective and gameplay, as they could quite easily focus his gameplay about high cost teammates and him getting stronger from them, kinda to mimic how he is trying to look for a really good host.

Oh right right i kinda looked over that, at same time id maybe also give the settlement a large countdown (10-15 turns) which would in the end give a super enhanced version of the Darkness or even just the World Rune as a card. Very much like the fort idea with Sylas but honestly just adding more info about Demacia's border forts in general would be plenty, like the one Shyvana is at for example.

Imo for Draven/Darius should start with them still working together in the army and progressively going to the Arena part with their relationship slightly being hurt by it as Darius has a really hard time making sure to both make Noxus proud and keep his idiot brother from doing something stupid , all sprinkled with more flashbacks of them as kids and i think it would be really nice. (Could be me being biased about what their story should be because i really liked their relationship and how seemingly the only thing Darius cares more about than his duty/Noxus is Draven, plus loved the Darius short comic.) I think just hearing Morde wuld be better yea, with LeBlanc/Black Rose perhaps testing how "Mordekaiser's Well" (Whatever the name is for the hole in the immortal bastion thats very closely connected to Morde's realm) and how it can be used and interacted with, both with just very rare magic and some human sacrifices cause those are always fun! Oh and one thing we definetely forgot but id love is an update to Annie's story, perhaps her and Rell meeting up due to their now very similar pasts, them teaming up with Annie just seeing Rell as a friend and all of it being a fun adventure while Rell takes it all much more seriously but at the same time stays extremely friendly towards Annie as she knows what they both went through.

Yeeeeea i kinda have similar numbers or did yesterday, wifi is fine now but i did get a bit sick so postponing it for a bit, feeling much better today than yesterday tho so likely gonna happen very soon.
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I have a feeling Aatrox is going to be a Runeterra champ no matter what, especially with Kayn being one despite his strong connections to Ionia and Zed. I do agree he'd work well with Freljordian units and probably Sejuani/Tryndamere specifically. Maybe his low cost units (which will likely be cultists) could do something to facilitate bringing out the big guns faster, as I find decks focused on high cost cards to be... unreliable at best.

I like the idea of it maybe producing a strong darkness that you could maybe get out faster if you say play 2 damage dealing spells in a turn and it lowers the countdown by one. It'd also have to be nonrepeatable to avoid shenanigans. Honestly, they could very easily just establish all of the big forts and who operates out of each one. Maybe attach some kind of legacy to each one and it'd do a lot to flesh Demacia out. There wouldn't have to be too many, maybe a half dozen or so?

I see nothing wrong with your proposal and maybe the arena is both how Swain comes in contact with the brothers and also allows him to get Darius on his side because Swain has some plan that'd keep Draven both safe-ish and entertained (which is the modern arena). I like their relationship too. Very good chemistry between them. Yeah, I'm not sure what the connection to his realm is called either... Maybe there could be some kind of plot around the Black Rose wanting to get a hold of strong fighters to sacrifice to him? I say that because he's supposed to use them in his revenant army that he's building. Hmmmm... I definitely like the idea of Annie joining up with Rell and maybe bringing some of her school buddies with her to a safe haven where they can have fun and not be exploited. I do also like the idea of those two having a mentor-student relationship built around shared trauma, although I don't think this'll fit within the scope of the show idea. Annie is supposed to only arrive back in Noxus a number of years after Swain had taken power.

If you do get it, let me know what you think. I didn't super like the first game, but the second game feels pretty good. Sorry about the late response, btw. I 100% passed out last night in the middle of my response.
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I cant imagine them not making him a Runeterra champ which is a bit disappointing but at least i hope he will be also be the only Runeterran champ in the next expansion. More than uh gameplay combos though i am just really waiting to hear the new interactions between the Trox and others, Trynda especially since well they quite connected to say the least.

Six forts would prolly be enough yea, 2 for Freljord border, 3 for Noxian one and maybe just an old and largely not very important fort on the south of the country thats supposed to guard the coastline, however is largely ignored considering no real threat has existed from the south ever since Shurima disappeared, could be made more important due to either a sudden attack from Shurima or The Void because iirc the city of Bel'veth is on the north/coastline part of Shurima.

Hmmm, the only thing id add is that, i would make it so that Darius always believed in Swain due to how succesful of a General he was and due to how Darkwill's rule started truly destroying Noxus overtime, but at same time Darius still wouldn't want to join the revolution due to being worried about Draven's safety, hence the offer/promise from Swain being the thing that finally fully changed his allegience, idk feel like it would make their relationship more complete plus Darius isnt stupid, pretty sure he really wouldn't like Darkwill (in his later stages of the rule) and would hold quite a bit of respect for Swain. Yea for sure for sure, perhaps the said strong fighters sacrifice could maybe be cause LB would want some way to try and open up a connection to him? Why exactly shouldnt be explained at all ofc, gotta keep all the Leblanc stuff as secretive as it gets, but it should just be made clear its only for her own interest as always. Hmmm yea the Annie/Rell stuff would more so prolly have to be an easter egg sorta deal near the end of the season if anything, otherwise wouldnt really fit into the timeline, good point.

Started downloading it, 60% done for now, bit slower than it should be cause also using a lot of free time to play league, Ranked season is coming to an end in 11 days so i want to make sure i dont LP decay out of my rank. And no worries whatsoever ofc, take as much time as needed.

Edit: Seems the Battle Royale's and all that are out, they look fine, i just dont like the new format used for regular 2 team or 1v1 fights tho, feels a bit disorganized due to the placements of the votes and especially the "neutral" one, eh could just be me.
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Oh, yesssss, the interactions will be excellent with him and I hope they bring the VA for Tryn back so we can get some actual back and forth. I think it'd be cool to have Aatrox considering other champs as potential hosts as well. Can def see him liking Darius, Braum and probably Illaoi (barring Naga's interference) as good hosts.

The positioning of those forts would make sense. As per the exact position of Belveth, I'm not finding anything concrete and only that it's a port city at the edge of the desert, which could mean north, south or east. That being said, I definitely like the idea of an old fort being what is lost to the Void first in Demacia, as most of their problems lie to the east and north. Would really catch their military in a bad position especially with this kind of Gray Goo-like scenario being dropped into their plate.

That's a good point on Darius's motivations and him already at least liking Swain would allow the general to get a foot in the door. I'm honestly not super up on Darkwill's reign, so I will take your assessment at face value. I was also thinking with LB and the Black Rose seeking out strong fighters that it would connect that story thread to Darius as well in a more organic nature. But, yes, the sacrfice of the fighters might serve as a conduit that creates a more concrete connection between the physical realm and Morde's realm. Maybe even weakening the veil for his eventual return as well. Maybe how they could connect Rell and Annie in is to perhaps have Annie's mom (Amoline) be some kind of mentor type figure for a young Rell? We'd get some Tybaulk action potential mixed in with that route too. It'd also help give some more connection between the two Noxian mages.

Fair enough. Gotta get all the matches in you can before things close off.

Yeah, I def like the BRs, but it threw me for a loop on the normal battles due to the change of where the neutral vote is. I understand it's like that to make coding easier, but it's still not ideal.
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Those 3 for sure yea, maybe Fiora too but at same time he really doesnt seem to like her judging from in-game lines at least, oh well even if not that him also just commenting on those who arent "worthy" in his eyes or those he finds interesting like Yi, maybe cause he would mention the Xolaani/Jun situation to him would be plenty great.

Hmmm, i assumed North cause, South is largely mountanious and East is techincally Ixtal territory rather than Shurima atm, plus North is where most trade occurs due to Piltover/Zaun but... yea after checking cant really find anything myself, no idea where i got the info from but i was sure i remembered it somewhere. The fort would also be a good opportunity if they still plan to go for the "Void Corrupted" angle for champs, maybe Quinn could work as her being in/around said fort likely could make sense and seeing a very monstrous combo of Quinn and Valor could work very well.

Basically Darkwill was largely uh, "Normal" for most time but in his ending years of rule he became increasingly paranoid about trying to prolong his life, which only became worse as LB was constantly leading him on to start more and more wars to find said "fountain of youth", in the end making Noxus spread itself so thin they had to start using child soldiers and i doubt Darius would hold too much respect for someone who largely threw the nation under the bus for their own crazy goals. But that aside yes yes exactly, i think ultimately The Black Rose would want to somehow return Mordekaiser i imagine BUT, i doubt that would be the entirety of the plan, it also should not be completed in said show. (What would be cool is... just as we mentioned community events in the past, it would be really cool if the community could decide on whether whatever Leblancs plan is could work, or if Mordekaiser would truly return fully in his entire glory causing another calamity to Valoran)

Mhm, for now though ive fully downloaded and setup Panzer Corps 2, did not get the DLCs as from what i understand its just extra campaigns of sorts? Might still get them later on though depending on how much i like the game but for now gonna go watch the Worlds Finals, happing as im writing this coincidentally enough.

Yeeeea i mean it probably is, idk maybe i just need time to get used to it, will also maybe try asking if there is any chance of it being changed, but gotta give credit the Battle Royals look great.
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I have legitimately never really played Aatrox or Fiora, so I've never heard their interactions. She's definitely a finesse fighter, so I can see him not liking her particularly well though. He'd definitely take interest in Yi, though, if anything due to his connection to Xolaani, like you mentioned. I need to get her profile done...

Yeah, North is really the only location that makes sense, although it'd also be something you'd think more people would notice. This is where it would be nice to have some info about where exactly Malzahar operates in Shurima. A corrupted Quinn and Valor could work well enough. Definitely don't want to do Shyvanna again after the Ruination. If they really wanted to have something surprising happen, I'd have Xin be on a mission there to check on the forts condition and him be the one get corrupted. Idk, just want more of a shock moment there and having it be someone with a position of authority.

Now that you put it that way, yeah, Darius is going to not be too difficult to sway to Swain's side. Even if Swain is an imperialist and an expansionist, he's too shrewd to waste resources like that. Yeah, no, Morde's return would have to be just a necessary part of a larger plan the Black Rose has been working on putting into action because didn't they betray Morde in the first place? Hmmm, yes, maybe end the season on a cliff hanger with LB's plans looking to come to fruition and then do a season long event of community challenges to decide who wins out. I just like community interaction and it adds a bit of uncertainty to story progression.

Yes, the DLCs take the grand campaign and makes it much more granular. Each DLC just adds a year to the new grand campaign with the first one letting you lead the Condor Legion in Spain. I actually quite like the DLC, but I only got them once I knocked out 2 campaigns (one going Barbarossa and one North Africa). You can actually get some pretty cool units too, like the Char 2C.

Yes, I think the old way of doing two sided battles was better with the neutral vote being in the center, but it's hopefully something Galactus can change to get things back to the optimal user experience. I have been having fun with the BRs, ngl.
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Oh right she did get approved, well hey as always take as much time as needed, never much of a point to rush things needlessly.

Right we never got info on the Malzahar stuff either... but yet again my brain is for some reason telling me it was in the south of Shurima, why? I got 0 clue, but hopefully along with the Bel'veth stuff we will get more info about Malzahar too. Good point yea, Quinn and Valor would probably look cooler cause they could really go all out with the "void horror" there but Xin would likely be a far better option from a Lore/Importance perspective, especially as he is seemingly one of the rare few people still trying to ease up the mage situation in Demacia, or is at the very least someone important who doesnt hold prejudice against them. It would really put importance on Jarvan's decision as without Xin there probably would be no advisors left that support a peaceful option for the civil war.

Basically yea, Leblanc was actually the one who personally ensured Mordekaiser couldnt return on his own terms back in the past, and she is the primary reason why he is still stuck in his own Realm, whether Mordekaiser knows she was the one who betrayed him isnt really disclosed but either way i really doubt The Black Rose would ever allow him to just outright return without having something prepared. And i mean yea community interaction is amazing, i would adore if Riot did it more and i think this would be a good opportunity to use it because people love Mordekaiser and Noxus in general, the only region that might be more popular is likely Ionia as... Ionia has most of the super popular champions. (Yasuo, Ahri, Zed etc etc)

I see i see, thanks for the confirmation but okay yea, for now ive only tested out the first mission a bit, havent had much time today and i gotta admit this will take a bit of time to learn, not too much cause the game doesnt seem super hard for now but it will definetely take time, i like it tho so thats nice.

Yeeeea its just the neutral vote being, very oddly placed, even in the BRs it feels iffy. I gotta admit though, i was definetely someone who didnt really think id care about BRs a lot but now that they are here i think its a great addition, even just trying to think of new BRs is plenty fun so hey props to Galactus for makin it work.
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For now I'm just going to leave her statless and only give her her back story until we see what happens in December.

I'm honestly surprised we don't get more info on Malz's movements here and there because of how important he is to the narrative, especially when it comes to Bel. Honestly, both of them make good conversion targets. Outside of his obvious importance to JIV and Demacia as a whole, I think it'd be really cool to see his armor and spear could be turned into a voidling suit like Kai'Sa has. Might get in some cool references to the Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars Legends because they have the living armor and weapons too. But, yes, it'd be interesting to see where JIV would go without his only real supportive advisor gone. Could def see an assassination attempt on him drive him too far without Xin to cool his head.

That's essentially how I thought it had went down. Maybe the Black Rose has some idea of how to get leverage over Morde to control him and use him as some type of weapon. Like, he still rules, but they're actually in control and safe from his wrath. My only real issue with a potential Morde focused event is that it'd be kind've similar to the Ruination? Obviously not in detail, but it would be about a revenant coming back with an army of ghost creatures to take over the world. And, yeah, they really need to use the community events to move storylines forward. Even if they do one like once every six months, that would give them plenty of time to prep things and keep things fresh. If they were to do Ionia, I do hope we get the civil war idea we had come up with a while ago. It'd be fun to have such a multi-faceted conflict to focus on instead of the relatively straightforward two side affair.

It's honestly a pretty straightforward game. Best advice I can give you is that tanks and armored vehicles do best in open terrain and infantry are best for rough terrain. Also armored cars are really good at scouting to avoid running into ambushes, as that can be deadly. You can also capture equipment if you surround an enemy and deplete their morale. Really good way to save on manpower and get yourself some cool stuff like KV-1s and such.

I think they're a pretty great addition too. I know I definitely want to do a bunch of faction free for alls.
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Well no stats but the history looks really amazing, absolutely great job!

Well tbf the void was a bit of a let down this year as a whole, Malza and his actions very much included, cause well considering we are reaching the middle of november i really doubt we will be getting that Void event, in the end i guess all the LoR Darkin stuff was what they actually went to focus on which fair i guess its technically still connected but oh well, feels a bit a wasted opportunity due to Bel'veths release.

That is kinda a pretty good point cause, in terms of the threat they pose Viego and Mordekaiser are extremely similar, only that Viego is on a bigger scale which would make a Mordekaiser invasion even bit more pointless i guess, but at same time he doesnt really have much else to do if we want his story to ever advance. (And now that i think of it, Thresh would make for a much more interesting scenario too because first he is a much more interesting villain imo at least, and he would definetely have far more plans than just brute forcing everyone with who knows how many undead and hence would be more entertaining to watch his story unfold) I guess if that is taken into account it would probably be better if Black Rose got at least some small win out of the situation with them being able to draw onto some of his power but him not being eradicated or anything, might end up giving Leblanc and co an opportunity to try ousting Swain out of power to return Noxus to their control more so. And yes the civil war idea with several voting sides would be amazing, both cause well love community interaction and im really not sure which side would end up winning considering there would be a lot of popular sides i imagine.

I see i see, well thanks a lot for the more advice, for now ive only beaten the first mission so will save any comments i have for when i get a bit more gametime in, trying to play the new HOI4 DLC at the same time so really spreading my time thin. (The HOI4 DLC is good but the peace conferences are actually really annoying)
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I think she'll probably end up being tier 3. There's a lot of implication that she's not quite on par with Varus or Aatrox, but still a difficult fight for them due to her healing powers.

Yeah, it was really disappointing that they did nothing other than the Star Guardian event (not that I'm complaining about how good that was). Maybe we'll get a story drop sometime soon now that K'Sante's been released? Just something that hints at Bel directing Malz to a target or something along those lines. I will say I have enjoyed the Darkin lore drops in LoR, but that still doesn't make up for no Void event, although maybe whatever Aatrox is gathering the dormant Darkin for is the threat from the Void?

That's where I think Morde's return needs to be a late 2nd act twist in a greater story (most probably a conflict between Demacia and Noxus). Maybe have Thresh not manipulating per say, but assist the Black Rose in bringing Morde back after a campaign gets beaten back or something along those lines. Then maybe a crescendo in the third act would be a coalition force lead by Swain assembling to beat back the return of Mordekaiser (because they remember what happened with Viego) where it's also revealed Thresh has been playing both sides all along. That's at least how I would do a return of the Immortal Bastion event at the very least. The ending would obviously see something of a return to Status Quo antebellum. And yes, the Ionian civil war would just be a lot of fun, assuming its a tri or quad polar affair. I doubt they'd let Zed's order take over, but can see quite a few people siding with him just to be edgelords.

Another thing, don't look at every vehicle as a straight upgrade, as there are times when an older Pz IV (for example) with the short 75 is a better choice than a PZ III with the long 50 because the former is much better against dug in targets. Oh, yeah? I haven't been in a position to do anything on my main pc, so I was wondering how that had turned out.

Edit: Working on Udyr and wanted to see what you thought. Made him tier 2 because they explicitly state he brought a mountain down and with how far reaching his power is, that seems fair. Also gave him damage reduction for the mantle stance because I know it gives him a shield, but it's lore wise just him gaining the armored hide.
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And thus we have returned to the land of the... poros?

Anyways, yes, there are enough simple explanations as to why Tryndamere survives the process and could eventually lead to them separating once again, maybe even after another event that maybe sees the Darkin get bodies constructed specifically to host them that can be easily disabled if necessary. But, yes, I think there should have been at least some side character deaths during the event. I'd think the best candidate for that would be Rafen, honestly. At least that would help explain MF's heel turn. I will say I like that they kept Viego around as a possible future threat because of what we discussed about the possibility of him being a wild card in a future event. But, yeah, Thresh got his power, so he would work well enough as an end boss for the Shadow Isles and the Mists.

Honestly, I think Kayle and Morgana for the Sun and Moon would be great, but what if we did a bit of a role reversal? Make Morgana the sun aspect and Kayle the moon. I'm just imaging Morg's W being a portal to the surface of the sun and her ult being these chains made of burning plasma. Could be pretty cool. And Nami could work as the Traveler quite nicely. And I do wish they'd have more paired Aspects now that I think about it. Like, I guess the Protector and Warrior are a pair, but what about the Immortal Fire? Like, it'd make sense for there to be a Celestial of the cold or something.

Yeah, no, that'd be a super bad 3 star. All the other's are pretty powerful, so his would need to do something else... Maybe have Forge give +2/+2? Or give his units impact once they reach a certain point? I do need to try him in regular play, but I do wish his Path deck had a better mana curve. Edit: Just got his 2 star, so I can see his 3 star and it's... terrible. All that's added is that the first time you forge, you forge again.

Yes, I don't mind the region reasoning, but I do wish we didn't have to put so many of the pieces together...

Oh, yes, I see that now. For some reason they made them out to be closer in Ruined King... But, yes, proportions are completely wonky, even taking into account the thousand years between. So, yeah, I'll account for it being due to cartography issues...

Honestly, it shouldn't be too hard to make the Hecarim skin work, although I have a feeling they'd have to make it a legendary skin so the model could be changed. Ooooo, that's some nice info right there. Imma update Thresh's profiles as soon as I can!
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Lol. Well of course! Nothing but love and hospitality for the cutest and most adorable creatures in Runeterra! (And further)

Hmmm that is an interesting idea, there was likely a pretty smart Darkin sometime in history, after all Nasus was turned into an Ascended purely due to being a great commander and being generally smart so its possible others could've similarly gotten the same treatment, mentioning that because i really like an idea of a Darkin trying to make artificial bodies that could work properly as hosts, because by looks of it Tryndamere and Kayn are really really large exceptions to the rule. True yea, and i mean i like that he is around as i do like Viego quite a bit, just thought it would be a good point to end his story for good, if they ever intended to do it that is.

Yes please! The W for Morgana? Great idea, i think her Ult could also be made extremely good if she started glowing brighter and brighter as it charged up, both because it would look great but because it would be a good visual indicator for when her ult will stun the enemies around her. Hmmm true yea, there should be an opposite to it but i will assume Riot just didnt add it yet, still would like more of it ofc.

Huh... Thats, really really bad, damn, im not even sure if i want to keep investing Wild Essence into Ornn anymore because... it really just doesnt do anything to make his gameplay faster, nor is it that strong in any manner, i will obviously craft him if i get more of his specific shards but yea, already short on wild essence as is. He is pretty fun in regular play though, mostly trying to make a Ornn and Jax deck work, going mostly okay as is.

Oh i see i see, had no idea they did that in Ruined King.

Definetely Legendary becuase the model and animations would have to be different, same with voiceover really since he isnt "dead" anymoroe, which i guess i do wonder how he sounded as a human, not that different likely but still a bit, oh well either way would very much like it.

I do also come with some more "cool info"! As this is apparently the roadmap for LoR and by looks of it we will be getting 6 more champions in the "Darkin Saga" as they call it, 3 more october and 3 more in december. Really hoping we get Aatrox and Varus or at least one of them, which i mean i will assume we have to get one of them its the Darkin Saga after all and we cant just get Rhaast and "random ones". Other than that really excited about the arclight skin because oh god LoR could do such an amazing job at them!

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Oh yes, the one that lives in my room is super adorbs. Also apologize for the late reply, I had an insanely busy day.

Yeah, it'd make sense for there to be some kind of researcher Darkin at the very least, especially with them going into the Void to fight. I would expect these artificial bodies wouldn't be nearly as good as someone like Tryn or Kayn but still better than the unworthy hosts. I do agree his defeat during Runiation was a good point to end things for him, but everything operates off of comic logic now and no one can ever die permanently.

Ooooo, I like that idea for the ult! Honestly, fire Morg would just be super neat. Moon Kayle could reference the swords that were made out of meteorites and make her fire silver. I have a feeling they'll eventually introduce more Celestials as it has been a minute since the last time they added any.

Yeah, I am not starring Ornn up past 2 cause that's just not worth the wild essence. Maybe if it made it to where every time you forged you did it twice, but they decided to make it suck. That combo does sound pretty good. I'm thinking about trying to make a Kayn Drakin deck purely for flavor reasons.

Yeah, it's not a super big issue sailing to the Isles, although you do have to fight one of those massive sea serpents.

I think it would be a fitting legendary for him. I think it would be funny for his voice to have that he's doing a grumbly voice but when he's porting back he finally drops it and has a very suave voice or something like that.

So I guess one of the new champs in the next patch will have to be a Darkin, so unless they introduce the daggers we've got Varus or Aatrox with whoever's left behind coming in December. I think it'd be best for Varus to come first, but I'm fine with it either way. Excited to see what they do with the Arclight event too as well as who gets Corrupted in part 2! I do hope the LoR exclusive champs include Necrit. He'd be a pretty cool Shadow Isles champ to go alongside Mao.
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Nah no worries in the slightest, we all have those days.

And yea yea ofc, still clearly less effective than actual proper hosts, but considerably better over random hosts, mostly due to being able to stay alive for longer and draw on more power than usually. That is, kinda a true point, although unfortunately League did always go with the "no deaths" approach, i do wonder if they will ever change that, would make for quite a suprise in the community, especially depending on which champion ends up dying first.

Hmmm yea that is a fairly good point, the last aspect champion we got was... Zoe? And it has been well over a few years by now

Well would highly advise because Kayn is extremely fun, probably top 5 favourite champions to use in LoR. Favourite overall would still be Viego though, really love his gameplay.

Ah yes, the Prince Charming voice Hecarim, would be a great detail for both the recall and as something seen in his joke, with him trying to make a statement only for his real voice to slip out.

I imagine the Darkin Dagger champion will be one of them (october or december, but one for sure), but even with that aside was trying to think of who the other 2 non-darkin champions could be for October, and, considering we just got a few from Freljord, Ionia and Bandle city, i would assume the next ones will be Demacian and Noxian, for Demacia i think the most likely would be Sylas and Sona, saying that mostly due to the "Equpiment" seemingly being very important in this update, and the two of them fit the bit most with the Etwahl and Petricite Chains. Would even be cool if Sylas' equipment was put on the enemies instead of allies, example being well his own chains silencing an enemy, would need to be a 4 cost card though otherwise it could be too strong. For Noxus though uhh... probably Samira? Not as sure for them though. And yea Necrit would be amazing as a LoR exclusive, we can only hope alright
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Yeah, suddenly being put in charge of 40+ children has a certain derailing effect on one's plans.

Honestly if they ever made those as skins, it'd be cool to see on death/recall that the artificial bodies start to fall apart and disintegrate followed by the rebirth animation showing a new body grabbing the Darkin weapon. I do think having champion deaths is fine, even if they aren't permanent. They did that with GP for a while and no one was too bothered by that. And even if someone is dead in the main timeline, it's not like they're dead across the multiverse. I actually thought Rakan's death in Star Guardians was quite poignant and effective, for example. Just don't kill Lux... or Teemo... or Braum... or Ez...

Yeah, Zoe came out in... 2017!?! And the last Targon related champ was Aphelios in 2019... We def need a new aspect and something really cool. I'd suggest Tyvari as the Traveller, but that's not super creative. Looking at their roster, we've got 2 tanks, 2 mages, a fighter, an assassin and a support. My mind went to some kind of storm-based champion with a cosmic twist, but I can't really think of an amazing way to differentiate that from Janna...

I've been having fun with him in Path, so I just need to get all the cards together to pull it off. I do have to admit I almost never use Shadow Assassin as Rhaast is just way better. Feel like maybe SA needs to have some kind of other effect other than the +2/+0 it currently gives. Maybe like a bit of damage to the enemy nexus when he kills something? Like 1 or 2 points, nothing crazy. I think Panth is my favorite in normal play. Just a very intuitive deck imo.

Yes and he absolutely hates that he doesn't naturally have the super gruff voice. I'd also like some voice lines talking about how close he and his horse are and they might as well be one being... or something along those lines.

I think the most logical addition for Demacia would be Sylas, but failing that, yes, Sona's a good option. I do like the idea of Sylas having chain equipment he puts on enemy units to gain access to their keywords while preventing them from keeping them from equipping new items. Might be a better way of showing his abilities because we both know how toxic silence can be. Samira is also a good choice for Noxus, although I think Talon could work as well. I'd also like to throw Corki out as an option for a Bandle City/Piltover card as he could play into both the mecha-yordles and the equipment playstlye. Maybe he even has a mechanic that benefits him changing equipment to represent him changing the payload on his ROFL-copter to match the mission he's going for. I think Graves is another that needs to be added in as TF is very lonely without his ever "reliable" partner.
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Ah yes... I can barely deal with my own little sister at times, can only imagine what 40+ of those "gremlins" would add up to.

It would also be cool if there were minimal model changes whenever one of the Darkin champions Recalled or Died. Nothing too much but for example Aatrox could just have slightly different armor patterns, or even just slightly different horns, anything to note that they are using a different artificial host, not too important but very cool and very appreciated. Yea that too, i really liked Rakan's death, was a great moment for him, and someone had to die vs Zoe tbh, battle would feel like a bit of a let down otherwise. Oh no never those 4, Teemo is far too much of an icon plus, all of them still have a lot to add to the universe, in a way all of their stories are almost just beginning and it just wouldnt fit that well. Sylas would probably be one of the "best options" for who to kill first considering the Rebellion is not ending until he is alive, even if he is the last man standing he will still rebel no doubt, plus he has already gone through his major story effects, had the most change on Demacia out of all the champions in the game.

A cosmic twist... Well perhaps an Aspect/Celestial that controls Nebulas and other unknown parts of the universe? Someone who never really concerned themselves with Runeterra at all as he/she has been dealing with the void and other who knows whats (Maybe could be cool if even some Dark Star stuff, because we havent had a skinline interact with main Universe yet). BUT all that could maybe change after the Ruination as well, The Aspect of War being revived only to become Viego's weapon, who has also attacked the entirety of Targon in a way would likely draw a lot of attention. I can also see said Aspect/Celestial being a villain who wants to purge Runeterra due to the threat they have posed to the Celestial Realm? First in Aatrox and Darkin and then later on with Viego? Dunno not so sure about that part but, i like the Nebula part at least.

Yea uhh i also almost exclusively use Rhaast, better and far more fun for me at least. SA could get, either the extra damage but, i dont like that too much due to possibly leading to some degenerate gameplay with not much counteplay, maybe instead, for each +1 attack he got from his weapon, he would summon an ephemeral 1/1 Shadow to attack with him? Would give a slight nod to how Zed as another Shadow user plays, while not being too much of a buff, and still being more interactive than just more free damage as they could still be blocked. I like Pantheon quite a bit myself too tbf.

LOL, that would be comedy gold, maybe Hecarim also saying he feels like the horse is the only one that can understand him, with the horse ofc neighing in response.

Oh yea the, stealing Keywords is likely better than silence, makes more sense for him too, maybe that could be his special power? He gets the buffs/keywords from enemies he or his allies debuffed or silenced? Dont really have a playstyle like that yet, and, it could be annoying for sure but, unique at least? Corki would be amazing and Graves is a clear choice because where TF goes so should he! Plus i dont remember the last Bilgewater champion we got tbf.
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They're certainly a handful...

Oh, yeah, that'd be cool. It'd probably just be loading in a different texture or something, so nothing too crazy complicated. Yeah, when you have a threat as large as SG Zoe is, you really have to have some kind of permanent loss and I really like how you can see that Xayah is suffering because of that loss. Sylas would be one that would be okay to die, maybe having it be a little cloudy just in case but still he be dead. Just off the top of my head, but maybe he makes an alliance with Thresh and ends up getting reaped when he's no longer useful. Then his body gets buried and so there's still a chance he could be restored, but it would have a clear build up. I also think Ashe or Sej could "die" only to return in a later update to the story. That's also another way to justify a kit update...

Maybe we could mix in some asteroid belt elements as maybe a physical representation of their power? Like they could bring down a meteor shower as like a q or something and the bits stay behind to block movement for a time? And yes, the Ruination would be a good jumping off point and also if the Darkin try to invade the Celestial Realm again. Maybe they are initially hailed as a hero when they arrive, but soon the Targonites figure out the new champ thinks its time for a reboot of the physical realm and is pondering an alliance with ASol when they're done with the baddies. I do definitely like the Nebula part, though and that needs to be played with. There's a moveset there at the very least.

1/1 without the bonus might be a little weak... Maybe the token gets the same total attack boost that Kayn has, but is still a whatever/1 so it still hits hard but can be chump blocked or picked off by a weak spell in a pinch. I do need to redo my Panthraka deck with some equipment, as those trigger the fated bonus when equipped.

There could also be a taunt following up on that if he runs into a classic Hec and is just all like... That's taking things a bit too far, wouldn't you agree Pony?

That all would work well. Maybe we could lean into the reducing power aspect due to his semi-connections to the Freljord? Or it could always be that he can counter enemy spells and then get an ephemeral version of the spell in his hand? That'd likely be his signature spell, but still. Well, we did get Illaoi, but she's as Bilgewater as Ziggs is Shuriman...
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Mhm more or less so, and eventhough nothing like that happened against Morgana or whatnot, honestly the whole SG event story was a lot more lighthearted than the Twin Star one so, dont really mind it, although i would've preffered if they took a different way to defeat her, but ohhh well, still really liked it overall. Didnt even think of Ashe or Sej but yea, considering a lot of stuff will be happening in Freljord alongside the void likely re-emerging there it is very likely. Plus as a whole i do like the idea of Thresh reviving the champions we had die to join his ranks, i guess it would be a smarter way of doing things than Viego did as i would assume he'd have more control of them that way compared to the Ruined champions, not that any of them resisted much aside from Karma at start but he does also skip the part of having to fight/corrupt them.

Hmmmm, yea that could work, perhaps 3 meteors that would descend a bit slowly, id imagine the projectile works somewhat like Kog's R but different as, we would first have to aim all 3 of them, then they would start descending one after another, would be a unique way to implement a new projectile i suppose. The Aurelion part does make sense too as, Targon and the Aspects/Celestials know that he will eventually free himself, could be really neat if the Nebula aspect was always quite weary of our favourite Space Dragon, just had no idea what Targon did to him due to being so far away for so long, and now both to suite his/her own goals and to make sure they arent on Sol's "hitlist" they make an alliance of sorts, in the end aspect being both a villain to Targon and the rest of Runeterra while still not being truly evil, but most definetely a villain though.

That would probably be a better way to go about it, either way SA Kayn definetely needs something more, even if he just got +2 power per Attack instead of 1, it would work plenty to help make picking between him and Rhaast a harder choice. Oh right, didnt even think about that, havent played any Fated decks in a little while now.

Cant even start explaining how much i like the idea of Hecarim having a great relationship with his horse but, basically no one else in the whole world, and even that taunt is just pure comedy gold, sometimes it really is a shame neither of us works at Riot to at least try and pitch these Grade A ideas!

Id assume the counter+ephermal spell could be what his evolved self does, to be more specific about that, when evolved id just have him create a 2 cost ephemeral burst spell in hand every round start that works like a Deny, but also gives Sylas an ephemeral copy of the spell he "denied", maybe make it cost 2 less too because otherwise often times he couldnt end up using it back up again. Yeeea they sure have taken some, "creative liberties" with Illaoi/Ziggs and some others, but i guess Illaoi would be a recent Bilgewater champ then, i guess just really Noxus or Demacia then, maybe Shurima but at same time, i dont think anyone from Shurima could do good with an Equipment based playstyle. (Rengar is apparently counted as a Shuriman champion so, i guess technically he could fit the bill fairly well.)
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I mean, I guess they kinda played around with the idea of the first teams being dead, but there was no way that was really gonna happen. I think Ashe "falling" during the Void event would be a good way to raise the stakes in the region and maybe we could even learn some more about her bow and who it really originally belonged to. Honestly like the whole idea that Ashe is actually the reincarnation of Serylda because I'm pretty sure that's who originally owned her bow. Yes, if I've learned anything from Ruined King is that Thresh is very good at controlling his minions, even when they think they're rebelling against him. Plus Thresh being this semi-neutral antagonistic force that's always the "lesser" of two evils is super compelling imo. I'd also imagine his version of ruined champs would have a different aesthetic.

I think it'd be cool to pick where they landed, but for ease of access maybe you just have a defined area where they fall with them falling semi-randomly within that area. But I do like the idea of it being these three projectiles one after the other and honestly, the fact it generates a temporary object would be enough unique selling point for me. Could do some really clutch things like interrupting a Naut Q or something. And yes, you have nailed everything I was positing right on the head. I just like antagonists that aren't strictly speaking evil. Like, they are right, but it's their methods that are the problem. Plus it'd be cool if we got a semi-diminutive male character to complement Zoe that's mischievous but still very driven towards their goals, but not single-minded.

Even with what we're proposing I still think SA would be on the weak in. Rhaast just has too many benefits, especially the fact he can heal your nexus, which in a long game is super impactful imo. And on Path. They also added those dragon bracers, so I super need to try those out.

I would say the fact Hec really only has a great relationship with Pony is kind've sad in a way and could also drive his pathos for wanting to be the best. Also you could work in some Mr Ed references and we're golden! Honestly, I wouldn't mind writing for their story department, especially if they'd let me do the side stories I'd like to see.

Oh, yes, that'd work just fine. Reducing the cost would be good, but maybe have the caveat it can't reduce the cost past 1? Just so it's more about Sylas wanting to steal big spells and not the little ones, which fits him better flavor wise imo. I think if they do Samira, they could make her a Noxus/Shurima champ so that both get some equipment love.
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If Ashe did "disappear" i can see a whole part of a story focusing on finding both her and the bow, us of course learning more secrets about both as we go on with maybe only Sejuani and a few others knowing what happened to her but deciding to keep it a secret due to how impactful it would be to her people. And then of course by the end of the story we can have either a reveal or a teaser of Ashe being Thresh' first revived champion, and yea different for sure, id imagine his "followers" would likely be a lot more monstrous/skeletal in nature but while also keeping an almost completely normal human facade most of the time, purely cause thats seemingly what Thresh seems to be doing himself right now.

Didnt even think about that but a connection to Zoe would be really good seeing as i imagine them being quite opposite personality wise. Could even expand into their backstory, maybe even add that Zoe and the Nebula Aspect were the first aspects to try and leave the celestial realm, kinda explaining why their connections to the hosts seem to be a lot stronger than the other ones as they've both learned how to fully fuse. Just something to add more backstory to both, kinda likely especially needed as Zoe would likely be one of the most worried about Aurelion being freed, doubt she wants her Space Puppy to fly away after destroying Targon, so all around id really like for him to be a "counterpart" to Zoe both because would work great as a new Targon villain and because every other aspect has a counterpart aside from her right now so it would be a pretty natural progression to things.

Oh id absolutely love to at least try and give some input to the story/lore department, working on it would be amazing even if its just about extremely random stories like... a story about Corki's lost fork! Or something equally not important to the world, i would adore all of it.

Good point good point, plus having Sylas be very outspokenly displeased at stealing one of the lower cost spells would be funny, especislly considering he does the same when he steals bad ults in League. Yeap, maybe her Shuriman equipment could be worse in general but better in specific situtions due to it being much more niche and in experimental stats and keywords to illustrate she wasnt completely sure what she was doing/using back then, while the Noxian equipment would be her current arsenal, generally much more concrete in stats and whatnot, but not as good in those very specific situations.
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I think Sejuani would definitely want to keep it a secret the most due to that kind of revelation hurting her control of her clans. And the idea of Thresh essentially having sleeper agents in the form of his "Chained" champions is super cool from a lore and potential story arena. Plus Thresh has always worked best as a puppet master villain and that could lead to a whole bunch of really cool reveals. I'm imagining the spectral/chained Ashe getting maybe like extra joints in her arm or something so she can pull her bow back farther or something like that.

It would certainly add a new element to Zoe's character while also providing a lot of new places for the Targonian lore to go, especially if we were some day to see ASol freed in an event. I do also like the fact that these two Aspects that have actually left the realm and experienced more are the ones that can truly connect on a fundamental level with their hosts whereas the others more or less just use them as puppets. And yes, I like this idea for a true Targonian villain being the counterpart to the one all of them hate because of how annoying she is. I think it would be funny for him to develop a crush on Kat or something so that he's trying to further sabotage Garen's relationship with her.

I really do think it would be good for the health of the lore if they did release these kind of "filler" stories that help expand the individual narratives of characters. Like, getting to see Corki going on this insane mission to recover his prized fork or getting to see Ez raid a tomb or heck getting an adventure of Pyke taking down an evil captain would all be a lot of fun without too much of a monetary investment.

I'm just imagining him being all "What the fuck is this shit?" when you use his power to grab something like the spell that just makes you toss 4. It'd be pretty funny, but obvs he can't curse like that. Yes, I'd imagine the Shuriman equipment either gives little to no stat boost and a good effect or gives good stats with some kind of negative, like the one that makes your unit unable to block. So, very much more niche but powerful in the right situations. And, yeah, Noxian equipment is no nonsense stuff focused on beat down for a very straight forward victory condition. Like the Great Hammers equipment.

Oh, the Guardians I requested were added. I'll get to them once I finish up the MtG characters I'm working on.
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Id even make Ashe's limbs extremely long in a sorta freakish manner, not too much longer but, definetely more than what you can expect from a human, only in her "ghostly" version though. I would also like to keep the "chain" idea with everyone, was thinking along the lines of everyone's hearts or left torso area very enchained and coiled by quite a lot of Thresh's usual chains, would be a nice way to add an extra detail that shows they are far less free than the "ruined" champs.

Yep yep the two of them shoud be the only ones who actually fully connected while the other aspects are just well, using the hosts to live outside of the celestial realm, Aspect of War probably being the most direct example of that as he does seemingly give the hosts the least freedom. Oh lol, poor Garen, i would definetely include it though both cause its pretty funny and to also draw more of a parallel between him an Zoe, plus the idea that both Crownguard twins' romantic lives are being "intercepted" by two Aspects of Targon is hilarious, i do imagine the new Aspect would be just as bad at it as Zoe is though.

I mean yea i obviously agree really hard, if love if every champion had at least one story like that, not really important to their story or lore in general but very good at showing us parts of their personality or just funny/interesting adventures.

For Samira's evolve and maybe entire identity, she would evolve through changing her equipment a few times? And maybe her ability is that she retains small parts of the stats of each Equipment she cycled through? While her evolved version gives her the keywords and full stats from equipments? Kinda to illustrate her using a whole load of equipment at all the time and just her generally hectic personality.

I did see yea, happy to see they finally out and hey ofc take your time!
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Yes, only long enough to be unsettling but not to the point where it's comedic. But yes, the chains coming out of the heart regions a good idea and maybe they wrap around the extremities and neck too to show just how much control Thresh exerts. Maybe even go far enough to show in their death animations that the chains are used to pull their spirits up like a puppet?

Yes, all of the aspects don't really seem to have much skill in fully exerting control over their hosts, as I think Diana's story talks about how the Moon aspects influence is fairly light and only really exerted in rare circumstances. But, yes, I love the idea of this very specific pair of siblings having their romantic lives absolutely ruined by immortal teenagers from space. But, yeah, Nebula aspect kid is trying to impress Kat by acting all tough and mysterious while trying to aid her on her assassination missions but keeps absolutely botching them. And maybe Kat just finds it humorous how flustered this makes Garen as well.

Honestly, smaller stories like that can really help flesh out the worlds while also hinting at what's to come. Magic used to do this really well with having little details in the books planting the seeds for something that could come years later. Honestly it was really satisfying to see those plot threads come fruition. And it can be small things like maybe in the Corki example, you have him come across an odd looking rock while looking for the fork and him noting it doesn't look like it looks like a space rock that almost hit him once, teasing the arrival of the Nebula Aspect and establishing a history between them and another already existing champ.

I do like that quite a bit. Good way to represent her having all that equipment without having to give her a lengthy thing that says she can equip 2 equipments and then you don't have to worry about the other weird interactions that would cause. I'd say to keep it from being too toxic that she only keeps the stats of the last equipment she had, which would still be pretty damn strong. Maybe instead of giving her a true keyword she could have attune, which would help her equip something when she comes into play.

I'm kind've disappointed your's didn't get voted through. I know I'm an editor and everything, but I shouldn't get preferential treatment when it comes to requests. And I've never had a problem with any of your stats, so that shouldn't be a consideration.
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Would like to see that as the death animation yea, more specifically for Ashe i can see the chains falling off-releasing with her withering away and trying to grab her bow, only for the chains to coil around her and pull her away, would be cool to show just how unkillable Mist champions can be in most of the cases, even more so now as i imagine Thresh really wouldnt like his hand-picked followers to get dealt with.

I imagine Garen would be taking it quite badly, plenty of sleepless nights for the Sword of Demacia as not only is some "random kid" his rival but he is a mage too worst of all! That aside i do also think the Aspect could work well to shift up and advance the Targon story, they kinda need someone considering besides Lunari and Solari fighting each other as always, there really isnt much going on, nor can anyone really change that much.

Oh absolutely yea, judging from you Magic is pretty great at it but, i will be honest i think Riot is kinda really bad at hinting stuff in the future, i cant really think of one example of the top of my head, i guess one could argue Viego's return was one but... thats more so just a giant occurance that was built up as a posibility for years, rather than hints being thrown around.

Attune would work pretty well, i kinda see her being a 3 cost unit too, dont know why exactly but it just feels like its the perfect fit, stats wise uh, probably a 4/3, or 3/3? Kinda hard to give a champion without many keywords concretely good stats, but id say 4/3 is better at start at least purely cause, id rather her be too strong and then to be adjusted to a more normal level, than vice versa.

Eh, id be a liar if i said i wasnt disappointed and even a bit annoyed, but oh well, it will happen eventually and worst case scenario il go ahead and ask for some votes, im more disappointed with us still using the, "barely possible to get voted" system for the requests.
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Ooooo, yes, I love that attention to detail. I'm trying to think of one champ from each region that'd work with this theme now as Thresh's infiltrators. They obvs can't be a previously ruined champ and would hopefully be a good surprise. Darius is kind of the obvious choice for Noxus, but maybe Talon could work instead? Also give Thresh's team an assassin.

I'm imagining now that Lux finds him hugging his pillow or something late one night and after much prodding finally gets to reveal this brat keeps showing up and ruining his... planned encounters with Kat whereas Lux admits she keeps falling asleep right before she goes to meet her "colleague" and then wakes up someplace random in Demacia City. Yes, it would be a good shift and I can honestly see there forming a new faction around the emergence of such a powerful aspect. Likely just seeing the boy as a normal host and not really as the full personification that he is.

I will say they used to be better at it when each plane got 3 sets worth of cards to tell a story (plus some pretty damn good novels), but even now we still get 5-10 stories with each new set. But, yes, they did alright with Viego, but the few things they have had set up for years have been sitting there for a bit too long imo. Like Kog's daddy or the coming conflict between the three sisters or, y'know, literally anything to do with Shurima. This is something I really do think releasing a short story or two a month could really help build up hype for events and champions.

They could also go improvise, but that'd be super lame. I would say having her as a 5/3 at 4 cost would work quite well and parallel her nicely with Sivir, but that's just me. And yeah, better to come out a little strong than a little weak *cough*Illaoi*cough*...

Yeah, I think the threshold needs to be paired down quite a bit. It's very discouraging as an editor to see my vote make the bar only go up imperceptibly. I'd also think the fact you characters have votes would help, but that's just me.
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From each region you say... well if Ashe is Freljord, for Noxus i think Talon would be a better pick, corrupting Darius would be quite big news in Noxus considering the only person more well known is Swain, and i dont think Thresh wants to draw attention at all, not yet at least. Talon though i dont imagine many people know his, both because of his just very not-talkative nature but also because of his past and his new job, id imagine a lot of the Du Couteaus dont even know him personally, only that he was adopted in the family few years ago or so. For Demacia though, first pick would be Sylas assuming the rebellion failing thingy happens but, if not him i think Sona would be a great option for real this time. I know i mentioned her before but, i really do think she would be a perfect pick out of the options, not only is her location and everything pretty much not known by anyone due to her being a fugitive on the run essentially, but i can see Thresh being really intrigued by the Ethwal and the seemingly spiritual connection it has with Sona, can definetely see him wanting to tinker with it out of curiosity and maybe even try to making his bond to the Chained champions stronger by researching and replicating it.

What a priceless moment between the two of them! Would really love to see the Crownguard siblings interact like that BUT also to try and help each other, maybe first Garen would "very bravely" scout out for Lux the next time she had a meeting with Ez scheduled, only to jump infront of the Sleepy Trouble Bubble after seeing it head for Lux, giving her just enough time to meet up with Ez! Lux could also maybe help Garen later on by using her light magic to blind the Other Pesky Aspect, letting him escape unnoticed.

I see i see, well, aside from the updates which you recently mentioned "werent ideal" for very obvious reasons id say overall i wouldnt mind if Riot also sped up their release of stories, at least for the lesser explored Champions, even slightly worse stories would be better for them than no stories at all. (Slightly worse compared to Riot's usual quality which i do consider to be really high) Oh for sure, some setup for any of those would be great, id even take a short story as long as Shaco's lore to just explain why the Shurima situatoin hasnt progressed. Something just commenting that "Both Xerath and Azir have been preparing their forces for the final rematch"

I do agree on the improvise point, but hmm, honestly now that you mentioned 5/3, i can see her being a 5/2 that can get quick attack through some special effect? Maybe she gets it if she is the only one attacking, kinda to reflect on her both being a lot more reckless than Sivir and that she really likes going alone into what everyone else would consider madness.

Huge agree on that, personally if i was up to me, id just add a whole new role of "Regular user", which works, basically exactly same like a Normal user, aside from the fact that their requests would need much less approval (old ammount of approval). Just because i mean, if someone has been requesting stuff for over half a year and it has never been a problem, it would both reward that behaviour and lessen the workload for staff a lot. Oh and of course the same "2x discount" should be given to any staff member adding requests.
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Okay, good, we agree on Talon, especially because he'd be in a good position to strike at Swain, for example... For Demacia I definitely think Sylas is the best option. I can definitely see Sona, although one I think could be a good option is Xin Zhao. Now that would be a plot twist. I was thinking for Bilgewater and, hear me out, but I think Nautilus would be the best option. It'd give Thresh's force a heavy hitter and Naut being corrupted and essentially isolating the isles from the rest of Valoran could lead to a pretty cool story beat for a story.

Oh, yes, that'd be great! Seeing Zoe get all flustered and like playing pranks on Garen afterwards would be great. And, um, Lux literally flashing a teenage boy so Garen can hang out with his girlfriend is probably one of the best ideas I've heard in a while.

Even if the stories are just simple one-off adventures would do a lot for world building and wouldn't be as costly as shorts. Even if they were to create art for each story that'd still be better than having to wait for a new champ to release to get a new story update. And yes, a short like that would go a long way to establish how the conflict is shaping up for the future. Even something like Sivir talking about how Azir's forces had been fortifying towns along a certain region or talking about skirmishes would help set the stage for a future event would be much appreciated. I think releasing these kinds of stories once or once every other week would really help tide people over.

Hmmm, now that you mention that maybe if she attacks alone, she gets +1/+1 for each non-attacking equipped ally and their keywords? It'd make for a distinct playstyle to Jax's and create something of a protect the castle style game style. It'd remind me of Exalted from MtG too, which was a really fun game style.

I would honestly take that voter tier that their only special addition is being able to vote on the requests. It'd definitely help quite a bit and mean we don't gotta wait for the Mods or Heralds to vote to get things through.
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Yeap Swain or anyone else really, Talon is likely in the handful of best assassins in Valoran after all, and likely does have a lot of useful knowledge so ultimately just a really good choice. Honestly, did not think of Nautilus at all but he'd work yea, especially as Thresh would most definetely know about him considering his dealings with the mist in the past. And best of all Thresh wouldnt even need to reveal himself to the world for Nautilus to start rampaging around, Bilgewater does seem to be the only one who are truly aware of him but even they dont really know what he truly is aside from myths and legends. Sooo, yea i agree, i dont think there should be a champion for Shurima though because, first their story really needs to solve itself first and second, i dont see anyone working, there are barely any human champions in there to begin with, and considering Akshan is a sentinel and Sivir is too important for the whole Xerath-Azir stuff she wouldnt be a good pick either. (And nah there is no way Ruined Skarner or Rammus would be good picks, Rammus would be kinda really funny though if it somehow happened accidentally)

Yep yep Zoe would be in tears at just the though of Ezreal having a date with Lux let alone seeing it, poor Garen could come back to find his favourite suit of armor completely trashed by "darn mages!" but i imagine he would still be really happy that he could help Lux. I would say they probably have the best sibling relationship out of the champions in league so i can easily see both being incredibly supportful of anything, Garen even doesnt care about her being a mage after all judging by the comics hinting at it at least.

Even then yes, and even if its just an extra story per month, id absolutely take it. Another thing i would really like Riot to do is, advertise their stories better, because right now i will be completely honest the universe and entire league "lore" page is so bad that finding out new stories released is, pretty darn impossible, and outside of visiting the page finding out new story releases is essentially impossible, i guess if i see a Necrit reccomendation on youtube i will assume something got released but calling that "Riot advertising stories" is a bit of a stretch to say the least.

Oh, damn that would be pretty damn uniqeu tbf, great idea. Maybe it could be a whole new keyword thats unique to Samira and her followers, no idea what id call it, "brave" is too basic and doesnt sound like a keyword and "fearless" is too similar to "fearsome"

Being able to vote onto requests would also just be fine, because i mean really it just lowers down the workload for everyone, and if someone does mess up a bit too much it is really easy to just remove it and delete the unneccessary/bad pages.
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Nautilus essentially blockading Bilgewater and isolating it would be super cool, especially as it would be kind've mysterious as to what's happening to all the ships. Because Naut is more of an urban legend than anything, so having that reveal would be so cool. Yeah, I don't see Thresh having any immediate interest in Shurima due to the relatively low population density and the Ascended being there and then Targon just beyond. Can see him trying to get someone in Ixtal though. Nidalee could be interesting perhaps, although I would prefer Qiqi because I hate her. I also love the idea of Chained Rammus, though, because Thresh checks in every once in a while and Rammus is doin his Mhm, Okay, Oh Yeah stuff and Thresh 100% understands him somehow. Plus Thresh would probably not try for full world conquest right from the get go. He's just a more patient villain than Viego ever was.

I would love a part where Zoe gets so mad that she goes to space to pout with her Zeebles and could also be a way to remove her from a potential event. But, yes, I love the Crownguard siblings's relationship. It's very wholesome and appreciated. And, yeah, Garen definitely knew and I liked how he handled it. Kind've came off as a coming out of the closet metaphor, but I thought it was well done.

I am honestly really surprised they don't use the launcher to promote their stories and such. Honestly a huge wasted opportunity to connect with the community. And yeah, Necrit videos should be a supplement and not the way we find out about new lore. Definitely a huge failing of the company, especially for people that love the lore.

Yeah, it'd definitely need to be a keyword to save text space. Yeah, neither of those feel right. I'm trying to think of a one word version of like "Single Combat" but nothing is coming to me at the moment. I do like the idea of keeping it to just Samira and her merry band, although maybe there could be an equipment that could grant the keyword too so you could splash in some other stuff that'd make sense like Darius or Atakhan.

Yeah, the deleting isn't too difficult and with how many votes it takes for something to get added it wouldn't be that big of an issue.

Quick rant, but I unlocked Veigar in path and his deck is atrocious. He has a couple of 2 costs and then everything is 3 and above and it just doesn't work. It's so frustrating and I lost to freakin Teemo! Terrible deck.
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Nobody would suspect Naut either, Bilgewater Captains would probably just try "paying bigger tribues" at start, only to likely completely stop trying to sail after that fails too which would be really bad for Bilgewater since i dont imagine they can support themselves reliably without raiding or using the sea for much of anything, Thresh would probably quite like seeing that both cause he is sadistic as hell and because Bilgewater has the most experience battlling the mist (aside from Sentinels). Personally i think Nidalee is better, would be a much better skin imo especially if they go absolutely crazy with her transformed self. Plus aside from fighting power Nidalee is both much easier to "capture" and is maybe more useful, with Nidalee likely knowing more about the jungle than Qiyana and being one of the best champions to serve as a scout/information gathering sorta follower. One thing too, it would be kinda funny if Vex just clung to Thresh now, but at the same time also constantly nagged him to "do something" as he she cant appreciate his plans but just finds them boring and slow compared to how Viego handled the mist.

Oh oh not just Zeebles but i want her to rant about them to Aurelion too who is utterly uninterested but unable to get rid of her (or the Zeebles) in any way, as such is just forced to listen for hours and hours about "Lux and her evil brother" and how they are taking Ezreal away from her! Yep same, it was something i always wondered and personally i much prefer him supporting her and knowing about it rather than being just oblivious.

The only reason why i can see them not using the client is... because its so damn buggy already that it would probably just die, especially this year, ever since the SG event the rewards for every event and even Clash have been late a bit, personally the best preseason change they could do for next season is just updating the client but, oh well...

Word aside the equipment would be nice, i would make it have some big downside tho as the keyword is quite strong, would probably pick the "cant block" as an additional downside to the equipment as it would fit the theme, aside from that likely just a +1/2 power and it being a 3 cost would be enough.

Oh... Yea uh, Veigar's units and deck as a whole are atrocious, i thankfully have him as a 2 star so he is actually usable as "Darkness" is now a burst spell, and i either get a free fleeting Darkness if i dont have one in hand, or if i do have one it hand becomes cheaper by 1 mana each turn. Still even with that if i dont draw Veigar or the unit that give +1 damage to Darkness every strike i often lose pretty hard.
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Yeah, Bilgewater would be in a bad situation and I'm sure infighting would start soon. Worst case scenario for Thresh is that they slowly starve to death, providing him a bunch of souls and eliminating one of the biggest threats to him with very little investment.. Best case, it gives him a situation to introduce his own captain to take over. And yes, for all the reasons you said Nid is a good option, especially if the situation in the region is tense due to Xerath and Azir. Plus with her work with refugees would definitely give her a lot of information to pass onto the boss. Lol, I love that! Like, Vex would absolutely annoy the crap out of Thresh, but I can see him finding her super useful. Even if he finds her tiring, I'm sure he'd be able to find a way to use her properly.

Oh my gosh, that'd be super hilarious, especially if ASol is just agreeing with her and legit being a good listener for her while 100% just wanting her to leave because he just does not care in the slightest. Also the Zeebles need to be braiding her hair. But, yeah, as distant as Garen can be, he is ultimately very supportive and loving of his lil sis.

I meant more the Riot client itself and not the LoL one. Because they have the advertisement for the Arcan and a nice description, but nothing since.

Can't block would work very well and encourage that kind of aggressive gameplay plan while giving a very obvious weakness. Honestly, I think it'd be a fun gameplay style with some obvious key weaknesses but still strong.

Yeah, I'm going to have to wait until I build up some shards for him. It's just such a painful gameplay style, especially because he doesn't really have any good defensive units to protect himself with. I really don't know how to fix the base deck either without completely stripping it down. Would def add the minion card that respawns in your hand after it dies because that'd at least give him a reliable unit.

Oh, what do you think of the Star Guardians page? Anything I missed?
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A win win no doubt, not sure who could be the Captain but it should be someone completely original or someone who was just mentioned in the lore already and isnt Gangplank or Fortune, they already had their due "ruination". Speaking of which what even happened to GP after he got defeated in Ruined King? Just kinda curious really. I think the only interest Thresh would have in Shurima is just information gathering as he'd definetely see both the Void and the Ascended as the biggest threat, definetely see him staying very very far away though at least until he figures out a plan to secure an upper hand on them. Yep yep, he would find her antics quite annoying but at same time perhaps a bit amusing as she is the only one who can really serve as his advisor, and is also the only not-undead person that can control the mist seemingly.

I can just imagine Aurelion leaning his head onto one of his hands which happens to be sitting on a really large black hole or something of the sorts, him constantly nodding his head up and down to whatever Zoe says while slowly losing patience due to already spending hours and hours listening to her "rants", all while deep inside wishing he can do absolutely anything else.

Oh right, that would work much better, especially because, they did say they would change the riot client to work more like how the blizzard client worked, with all of the games being accessible through it and whatnot but, seemingly they never fully went through with it. Either way mentioning that because that sort of client would work great for advertising the lore, just having a lore page for League and Valorant would do a lot of work, it aint like they got any other lore to handle after all.

The minion card would both fit since well he is Veigar and it would help a ton to alleviate how fragile his defence can be, but, another problem i face with Veigar is that unless i get Senna, i really have no idea who to combo with him most of the time, and it all kinda stems from his Path deck being more or less exclusively focused on the Darkness mechanic. Which is unique i guess and i dont mind it but, it does make it really hard to pick proper champions/units in adventures.

Daaaaaaaaamn, that looks absolutely amazing great job! Absolutely love it and well basically nothing id change whatsoever, im also assuming once we get the Nemesis champions out there will be a special section for them?
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Yes, it would need to be someone new for sure. Maybe a ship that had crashed in the Isles presented an opportunity? So, after GP was beaten by the gang, Nagakabouros's amulet forced Viego's control out of him and he was taken captive. After Viego was defeated, MF was prepping a public execution for GP, but he escaped under mysterious circumstances although MF suspected Illaoi. I imagine Thresh would also seek to extend the conflict between the Ascended to keep them out of his plans although I'm not sure what he'd do about Bel. He'd probably assist somehow, but it would only go so far as to aid his own goals. I think Thresh would also find Vex useful due to her connection to Bandle City and how she might allow him to invade the Yordle realm.

I can also see him offering his services to Zoe in getting rid of these annoyances if only she would assist him in... going for a walk. I mean, if anything was to convince Zoe to actually help set him free it would be to help her get the attention of the boy she has her heart set on.

Yes, just having a tab when you select the game that shows the latest story and clicking on it would take you to the lore page. It'd be nice to know what's going on past just patch notes.

Yeah, um, his deck just doesn't mesh well with most. Maybe Nami due to her giving buffs and adding attune, but that's still only kinda helpful. Lux and Jayce can kind of work too, but they have a focus on 6 cost spells and that just doesn't work. I really wanted to like Veigar, but I think his whole deck needs to be scrapped and reworked.

Well, I know Fiddle will go into the former section because he used to be Harp... Morg on the other hand will have to simply get a character link in the history section because as far as I know she was never a Guardian herself. I do think it'd be neat to add a recurring enemy link for teams though.
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I see i see, honestly dont mind that much but i do think it would be better if GP maybe got a concrete end so that the story of Bilgewater can advance on, which, i mean i guess GP being publicly known as alive does stir things up a bit but he was kinda already beat after making his comeback so its a bit weird, oh well thanks for the info alright. As far as Bel goes i think he would likely try to capture one of the minor voidlings (champ or not) so he can try and truly figure out what they exactly are, im sure Thresh would have his methods, other than that if he did find out how the void "assimilates/absorbs" things into itself i could see him trying to warn the endangered cities/settlements of what could happen while not revealing himself to try and slow down the void, although i am also 100% sure some of said settlements would also get sacrificed both out of curiosity and wanting to find out more about the void, doubt he'd try anything more direct than that. True true right, maybe Vex doesnt really want to do it but does make a promise that she would lead him to Bandle City if he completed the Ruination.

Oh yes yes! I can even see Zoe accepting it due to just how stressed she is over the entire situation, only for the entire thing to fall through just as Aurelion is about to obliterate both Lux and Garen from existance as he suddenly got called back by his Targonian masters to handle something much more important, both of them being in absolute tatters, Aurelion cause he doesnt get his freedom yet even after being so close and Zoe because "Ezreal will keep getting deceived by Lux".

Basically yea, honestly i think the old client was much better at least in that department as it already had a bunch of similar functions to that one, i distinctly remember there being plenty of tabs where we could see high rank games or pro player games get advertised on the main page and could easily go spectate them on the spot, i know its not the same as linking to lore but, effectively it wouldnt really be that hard to add another page to it, i do wish the new client was more like the old one but ohhhhh well...

Tbf i dont think ive ever played Nami in path or regular play, but... i guess yea? Still though um, i dont really like path champions who have great synergy with 2-3 champions, but then have no synergy with everyone else. Kinda the main problem i have with Ornn too because ye he does suck ass but, if i can RNG getting a Pantheon or Jax then well he is pretty darn good, i feel they focused on their unique strenghts (darkness/equipment buffing) too much, so while that part of them is strong no other is, plus both have pretty bad decks in terms of minions. which i never like.

Right right yea Fiddle should go there. As far as Morg goes from what we know she was never a SG, both because she refers to herself as something else and same goes when anyone else that knows about her (Nilah/Zoe/Syndra) talks. But also because she is older than the first SG team and was already a villain before then, so it should be impossible for her to be a SG, buuuuuuut never outright confirmed i guess. Either way i absolutely adore the page, think its great and would love to see similar pages for other skinlines!
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Yeah, uh, I was not too happy to have such a non-resolution to that part of the story. Like, if anything, Pyke should've killed him because GP was like #2 on his list. Then you could've had a reveal that Thresh still had his soul and then we have a ready made captain for Thresh to use to take over Bilgewater that has both legitimacy and is 100% under his control. I think if Thresh was to try to capture any champ voidling, it would be Kog due to his rather naive nature and being driven by curiosity more than hunger per say. But, yes, I definitely see Thresh letting settlements die to observe the results and only deciding to intervene once he discovers that the souls of the departed don't stick around. But, yeah, def indirect intervention, but I could also see him offering to erect giant Boxes around settlements he finds important. This is definitely a Faustian bargain, though, as pretty much everyone inside is going to become a wraith after a while. Yeah, Vex would have to have Thresh carry through on his end of the deal first, although I wonder how exactly the wraith stuff would interact with Yordles because they can't die in the traditional sense. Maybe they only get corrupted? Which to Vex wouldn't be that bad.

Yeeeeessss! And the pure intimidation factor of Zoe showing up with ASol and calling him her space doggy would be epic. And right when the Crownguards think they're going to die, ASol gets pulled back to Targon and Zoe is just left there absolutely deflated. And, yeah, Zoe's now 100% got something against the other Celestials which does end up playing into ASol's hands in the long run.

Yeah, the new in-game client kinda sucks ngl. I used to be able to leave it running in the background during games, but it's such a net hog I have to have it close when I launch anything. Super inconvenient. I would also love to see Riot like actively post fan art, as it would be good for community engagement and also potentially give us good profile pics...

Nami's fine. She's pretty splashable (lol) into any deck that at least partially uses spells. I will say for Ornn that I've had luck with his synergies by just grouping him with fairly aggressive champs like Vi or Garen... That being said those aren't ideal and you really need Jax or Panth to fully utilize his playstyle. I don't mind the super specific decks, but there needs to be a choice to just double down on the play style with the obvious downside you don't get access to another champ. Because, yeah, some of these champ decks are too hyper focused on their individual gimmick and probably should've only been support champs. Like Senna probably would've been a better choice than Veigar as her evolution only requires killing units with spells and not one specific one.

Once we get the rest of the SG universe characters added, I'll be sure to add in the summary for the recent event and link Morg's profile there. As per other League teams, we really need there to be a specific team they work for. Like, once we get the Odyssey skins in, that crew should get one and I also plan on adding a page for the Sentinels as well. Oh, I'm going to try to get the stats for the last of the SG characters up once I have a chance to watch through their skin spotlights.
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Muuuch prefer that path for GP if they really want to keep him "alive", especially because it could've all quite easily just been a part of Thresh' plan as he was the one that led him to Viego no? Poor Koggy would never deserve such a thing but, he is the most likely to get caught purely due to how he is different from essentially all voildings we know by now. The "Box setup" would also just be very useful for him to see how exactly the Void and Mist interact, but im sure that once he got everything that interested him he would quite quickly leave Shurima, especially if he found a confident way to deal with the Void. Hmmmmmmm, probably yea? Cause well they cant die really i guess? Thresh could kill them if he wanted since we dont know if destroying their souls would do the job but, either way that would just be a lot more work than neccessary.

Mhm, and in Zoe's coming confusion and disbelief at the loss of her space puppy the Crownguards make their escape. Maybe thats where the Nebula aspect could come in as Aurelion got recalled because Targon was afraid he would act against them as he was not supposed to return yet, especially not without informing them first?

Id love that, and even if they dont want to have someone organize fan art around, just having several artists be affiliated/partnered in at least some minor way would help a lot to give easily accesible art to post, cause well, i think League has some of the best art out there, Splash', LoR or the Short Story art, all of them are absolutely Grade A, just unfortunately not too much of it. (Not counting whenever a new LoR expansion is released)

Hmmmm i see i see, i actually dont remember ever getting Vi or Garen as options for Ornn but either could work, not as good as Jax/Panth as you mentioned but could work. I guess but still, overall i kinda really dislike how Senna and Veigar are reliant on each other, because it think the two of them are the only "inseparable" champions in the game, like sure everyone combos better with someone but for them its far too obvious as they are the only ones with Darkness as their mechanic, bu oh well thats just me at least.

Makes sense makes sense, Cool, hit me up whenever any of them are done ofc, i will also watch through the spotlight stuff and whatnot for the newer SG's to be up to date myself.
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Yes, Thresh needed a living person with a certain amount of will to awaken Viego within the BotRK and GP fit that bill while being desperate enough to go along with Thresh's requests. I know it's my idea, but I do like GP being a tool for Thresh even in death as that would just further the dread of the Reaver King. Honestly, one of my favorite aspects of Thresh as a character is that he is very good at presenting his offers as mostly benign despite his appearance and then only cashing in when he has to. Wonder if he learned that from Tahm? Honestly, I don't see Thresh doing anything too bad to Koggy. Definitely experiment on him for sure, but Thresh is always thinking long term and with how much it would probably cost him to get Kog, I doubt he'd do anything too rash. Worst case he probably cages him in his fortress and studies him or best case gives Kog a job in eliminating the denizens of the isles he has no use for. Amd yeah, the Boxes are definitely temporary no matter what he says. Purely a way to harvest souls and test his defenses to see what does and does not work. Honestly, my theory on Yordles is that they're essentially like DC Imps or the Qs of Star Trek in that they're these beings from outside normal reality and only really pretend to follow the rules of the mortal plane. Not nearly as powerful obvs, but still outside the natural order. And I mean, if Morde couldn't figure out a way to kill Veigar, I doubt Thresh will find it easy either.

Ooooo, that would be such a good meeting point for those two! And they're so different yet so alike and now united in a mission of great (relative) importance. Honestly, I could see this whole story line paying off with ASol getting an ultimate skin to represent him at his true 100% power and it would be a sight to behold for sure! Maybe there's still some kind of clause in the agreement between him and Zoe and Aster (just came up with that name for Nebula boy, please kill it if you don't like it. Wanted to do an A name because he's the counterpart for Zoe and Aster is shortening of asteroid) that prevents ASol from obliterating Runeterra and instead he just makes a new constellation that pisses off the rest of the Celestials instead.

I mean, I do really love the art they put out and would appreciate more of it. I'd love to see champs in action or even happy stuff like Nunu snoozing on Willump or Kat and Garen in disguise on a date. Honestly the splash screens in LoR are great too. Outside of a few niggles (Ezreal, Thresh...) they do an excellent job. Also found out one of the artists also does work on MtG alternate arts, so that's a cool bit of serendipity.

Honestly it's really weird that Senna has so much synergy with Veigar and not Lucian. I will say I think Veigar just shouldn't have been selected as Shadow Isles rep. Hecarim or Kalista probably would've been better as they're not overtly specific on their playstyles while still having gimmicks and the Black Spear is an equip card now, so there's a connection with the expansions theme. And as much as I love Ornn finally being in the game, I ultimately think Sej would've been a better Freljord rep. Her gameplay style is much more broad, making it easier to splash in other champs, and she naturally works well with the equip playstyle imo. Honestly surprised they didn't put Thresh in either, he'd be a natural fit although he did get that adventure...

Will do. I'm gonna try to knock out Sona tonight and maybe Gwen (as she's a LoR only skin), but no promises.
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That exactly yes, GP being bound to Thresh even in his death would just show how costly making a deal with Thresh is, especially compared to how easy and good he makes said deals sound, he could even be the best manipulator in League now that i think about it really , he has achieved almost everything purely through leading others to what he needs. And i do think he might also be both the best villain in league my favourite villain in league too, although i think League has a lot of great villains with me ofc liking a lot other ones too (Viego, Xerath, Veigar, Swain and it goes on). Oh yea for sure, Kog would likely only ever be in real danger if Thresh found out all he wanted, but considering Void is a mystery to everyone even the leftover Ascended that is probably not happening anytime soon if ever. Now that you mention it, yea probably, i mean nobody outside of Yordles can manage to get to Bandle City in any way, and it does work very different compared to the rest of Runeterra, or at least its time does so that could likely be true, even Mordekaiser who can already connect dimensions (His own and Runeterra) has no clue how to get to Bandle City. But tbh i would like if Riot mostly keeps it a mystery, they can still give hints that leave a couple possible theories but i wouldnt want a direct answer, feel like Yordles/Bandle City would lose something if they were completely explained.

I doubt anyone would mind an Ultimate skin for Asol, he is easily one of the most beloved champions in the community, but more importantly he is Asol, if anyone deserves it its probably him from a lore aspect at least. Oh no i actually quite like Aster as a name, does fit the series and the type of character we have in mind, also like the "connection" to asteroids, but yea i imagine Asol wouldnt like it but he would definetely accept the deal, even more sure he would promise that he would eventually watch Targon and Runeterra burn deal or not.

In an ideal world we both get the extra art and the low-importance Lore stories we mentioned, both the Nunu and Willump thing or the Kat/Garen disguise date would be essentially perfect ideas for it. If they want to make the Kat/Garen one more of a joke styled one which they should imo, id have Garen invite Kat to a hiking trip to a really nice hill that has a view on Targon, only problem being that its extremely hard to reach its summit and even more dangerous, mentioning it because i would include Taric in the story as he would notice his old friend and comrade struggling and even being in real danger many times trying to reach it, only for Taric to help him out while trying his best to not get noticed, would also have Katarina be really uninterested at the start and wanting to go through it only because Garen promised he wouldn't reach out to her again after that night if she said so, but by the end of the story id have Katarina really realize how much Garen cares after seeing how hard he worked to show her the special view, maybe id also make her aware of Taric or at least "some unusual force" helping Garen out, while he is of course completely oblivious. Just a neat and very random idea i got, but i do really want to see Taric interact with someone finally, thought this could work for it and also be a good story to advance onto the LoR stuff for Kat and Garen.

Personally for Path if i could pick myself, id definetely go Viego for Shadow Isles, and Lissandra for Freljord, but those are more or less completely biased choices made purely by the fact i love playing them regularly. Speaking of Path too damn that Zed 4 star adventure is, really hard, havent been able to beat it at all, too many stuns and recalls more often than not.

Cool cool, i see some of them are worked around, but will wait till you mention them as honestly, im real tired and more or less just want to go sleep, would definetely do a pretty poor job of checking too but oh well, might check them out once i wake up, will edit thoughts in if i do.
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I do like Viego as he is a villain with some good pathos. I also legitimately like Urgot as a villain and wish they would do more with him. He's a very good wild card villain that I'd like to see come into play in some future season of Arcane or for him to make a move on taking over Zaun. But, yeah, Thresh is just such a good villain that has these plans within plans that make it to where even when he loses, he wins. I hope Bel is executed just as well. Honestly, Bel coming at Thresh to retrieve a "part of her" could make for a really cool villain showdown and be a good follow up to Viego's fall we came up with. Oh, yes, for sure, Bandle City needs to be an eternal enigma with new Yordles only helping to add layers without answers. And if Thresh was to attempt an invasion of that dimension, I think it would be fun for him to straight up find himself unable to stay for very long and only maybe grabbing a single Yordle to study, which could lean into a fun new Yordle champ that could be some kind of pain mage or something. Idk, just spit balling as always.

I can definitely see ASol giving himself a sun crown of some kind and golden accents added throughout his body. Maybe some additional limbs that help him forge lesser stellar bodies? Honestly, he really does deserve one especially if his kit rework turns out as good as it looks like it will. Might be fun to have him grow more impressive as he levels up, as that is seemingly attached to his kit now. Cool, Aster it is then! Helps to have a name, but honestly I like the lore we've built up here. Helps flesh out the celestial realm and allows ASol to have things to do in the story, maybe even eventually confronting some future insane villain.

Oh my gosh, I absolutely love that story idea! Gives a nice payoff to the friendship Taric and Garen are supposed to have while giving Garen and Kat some cool bonding moments that aren't specifically combat focused. I'd throw in a Targonian dragon (maybe a wounded Whiteflame?) that gets in the way to give us a really cool fight that would demonstrate some good teamwork between the couple and allow Taric to protect them and eventually getting the dragon to leave. I really do like the idea and would love to see it.

Viego's a good pick and Liss would need to be added as it would be nonsense to have only 2 of 3 faction leaders of the Freljord represented. I think Pantheon should eventually be added. I have not tried that adventure yet and I've knocked off the other two weekly journeys. Been focused on knocking out the Corrupted missions and they can be... quite time consuming.

Oh, I had only set up all the base powers as it's just easier to do it that way. I think Gwen and Sona are done. I'm gonna try to knock out Senna and then Akali tonight.
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Would love to see Urgot appear in Arcane season 2, like id really really like it because now that Silco is dead the only part of the story i really care about is the Jayce/Viktor one, and yes i do quite like Viego myself. Bel will need quite a lot of setup i feel because, due to the entire break we are having i feel like the hype for the void event is kinda dying off, if anything i am even a bit afraid they wont advance Bel's story for a whole while longer, which would suck because right now she really doesnt feel like much as she has done almost literally nothing. Oh thats a funny idea, personally id love to see that, Thresh only being able to last minutes before both the mist and he are ejected out from Bandle City by something unexplained, only adds onto the mystery, and it would be kind of funny if said "Pain Mage Yordle" did actually like pain, Thresh now surrounding himself with 2 extremely unusual yordles even not keeping the other one locked because he legitimately does not want to return to Bandle City.

For sure a lot more golden with flames/sun around the top of his head and crown, would also make most of his VFX gold, could look especially good with the new "fire-breathing" move he is gonna have, granted that already looked sick on its own from what we saw. If we really wanted to make him crazy and "Ultimate Skin" worthy perhaps the skin getting picked would change some appearance/textures on the map? More and more changes pilling on as he levels up with the entire map looking a lot more "cosmic" by level 18, would really show just how much of a "grand figure" he is. HOWEVER, 100% it should only be cosmetic changes to the map and, there should also be an option to turn the changes off similarly to how someone can turn off DJ Sona's music for example, there being a few second long animation where everything gets turned back to normal if an opponent/ally decides to do it. (And it should be possible to code, maps already get completely changed based on the dragon that pops up anyways, granted still a definetely very big investment)

The dragon is a nice added touch, the only thing id also add is maybe Soraka into the end of the story as Taric would likely figure the Dragon needed help too so he tried asking her for help which she obviously happily agreed to. Just think Taric/Protector and Soraka would likely have a pretty good relationship.

I see i see, yea ive been kinda, "ignoring" the missions for most part, whenever i see them i just try beating them in Path. Mostly only play it nowadays really, although i did also slow down a bit when it comes to LoR, a bit more busy lately and whatnot.

Okay so damn you did plenty, going one by one, for Akali maybe id just add "multiple limbs" purely cause she can create wings of "star guardian stuff" but i aint sure how that works anymore, had to mention it though. Sona uh maybe id only add low level telepathy cause she can talk to her familiar but, only him so, once again not too sure but wanted to mention. And then Gwen, Senna and Orianna all look great with absolutely nothing i can think off!
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I agree Urgot would be a good villain, although they did hint at Warwick in Singed's lab. He'd be cool too especially as he would offer a good challenge for Vi and Cait. Yeah, I don't exactly have much faith that they're going to execute on the Void event this year. Hopefully they do something with it next year as I really do want to see Bel beat up some heavy hitters so we can get a better version of the Ruination event. I agree and think that Thresh not being able to stay for very long added in with it being just the happiest and most carefree place in the universe utterly horrifying him would be hilarious. I think the pain yordle should still be super upbeat about everything (annoying Vex) and very into all of the torture stuff Thresh is doing, that way he gets on both of their nerves while still having a connection with them. Idk how you'd balance it gameplay wise, but there's a character from Irredeemable that transfers any damage inflicted to her to a target. Could lead to an interesting gameplay style, but it'd need some heavy balancing to not be oppressive.

I definitely like the cosmetic changes to the map. They could definitely do some stuff with the skyline up in top lane and maybe the river could gradually transform into a cosmic river of some type while altering the scuttle crab. Could also have Baron get switched out for the Scourge, but that might be a little much. Honestly, I think it wouldn't be that bad, as it would just be a visual change with no model changes, so it would just be the textures your computer pulls up. Doable and grand and super worth it imo.

I only thought of it because Garen's sword is supposed to be able to cut into dragon flesh, but we've never actually seen that outside of an insinuation in one of the cinematics. I actually do like Soraka showing up and being something of a mentor figure to Taric. Could be a nice set up for something in the future with maybe Soraka hinting they'll need the dragons in the future or something along those lines.

I mostly do them because you get icons and stuff by completing them. I've mostly switched to Path too, it's just more fun and I don't have to worry about my net connection being unstable. Oh! I noticed Ornn got buffed in the last patch, but only minorly. Now his level up needs an ally to strike for 8 instead of 10 which makes his Path deck play much more smoothly. Still not great, but workable.

Cool, thanks for looking them over for me! I added the things you suggested, which just leaves Nilah to finish up. Phew. Oh, I got Norra added in too. I was thinking of adding the new Darkin in, but idk and wanted to get your thoughts. I think I'll start adding in the arcade characters after that.
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Hey this is vonKonigsberg here I stole Jakcj's account, what's up
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Are you an alt account?
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Order 30 is being implemented.

Yeah, ngl, trying to read the dev diaries for Vic III made my eyes glaze over. This is gonna sound weird, but I've found Stellaris less and less playable as they add more things. Like the overhaul on planets made it very boring and difficult to manage large numbers of planets, as my favorite carnivorous snails like to build wide as they munch on all the sentients. I have not gone back to base HoI IV in a very long time, but I remember some good meme-y days trying to play commie balkans with a friend. Honestly, CK2 is my favorite with HoI IV following close after. Then its probably Stellaris or the Battletech games they made.

Yeah, Annie with Luden's is pretty nast and her disintegrate spell made killing Kai'Sa's stuff more managable. I can see Yas working quite well against her, but I have yet to try him as I'm trying to grind up to Gwen and either Kai'Sa or Taliyah. Oh, I did unlock Eve and does she not get her own mini campaign? I've finished Galio's campaign with Bard and Annie. I do agree he's quite a bit easier than Kai'Sa though. Honestly surprised Zoe's always a mid-boss. Usually find her more difficult than the actual boss.

Hmmm, if they haven't yet, I'm sure they will soon. Wouldn't make sense to leave that kind of plot thread hanging. Riot really does need to do a better job archiving their past stuff. It shouldn't be up to the fans to do that imo.

Maybe not a Hyena then... I just like that card in LoR. Maybe it could be some kind of Hippo-like abomination? Just trying to think of Egypt associated animals and that would make for a good tank animal. And yes, of course.

I will see about putting those Guardians in then!
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And this is gonna sound just as weird but i actually agree, i think that Stellaris was at its best during the Utopia DLC, i think after that they have done a bit too many changes to how planets work especially "lately", and also most DLCs have been whatever. Federations one is very good imo but besides that one most of the updates just end up slowing the game down, ive also never been overly fond of the administrative capacity thingy since i do also like playing wide especially in CK2, granted instead of a swarm of snails i like playing as murder-bots. For me yea uh CK2 first for sure, HOI IV in 2nd place and then id stay Stellaris, most other ones are just fine-decent but i wouldnt call any of their games bad tbf, none ive played at least.

Yea no uh she does not have her campaign at all which was, disappointing really, but she also isnt the only one from what i noticed as Taliyah also weirdly doesnt have one, at least for Eve one could say that it could be a bit hard to add a story for her with champs currently in game, but with Taliyah its pretty fairly easy, having her start off with Yasuo and ending with Azir in Shurima. Hmmm yea honestly i think Zoe can get out of hand far more than Galio and ive had more difficulty with her too since, if i ever reached Galio i was already so decked out on powers-items that he really wasnt much of a problem, Zoe on other hand...

Well chapter 3 is up and Morgana is very clearly the focus now, i just havent really had much time to play so, only unlocked the first out of the 3 acts for now, still imagine it could be further explained sometime this chapter but we will see.

Honestly no joke i was gonna say crocodile before i remembered Renekton, but yea a Hippo one could work really well for a tank. The only thing i would like to see more than an ascended would be another Darkin, both cause we dont really have one for top and because i would love to see their story finally get moved forward. Maybe by having Varus free the said darkin?

Sounds like a plan, i guess i will request mine soon too then.
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I mean, that's fair enough. It honestly just feels too complicated at this point. Like there's so little accessibility at this point that I feel discouraged trying to pick it up again. I just like having my lil Snail people riding around in their flower space ships gobbling up everything in their path. And yeah, admin cap was a mistake and makes the early game so limiting. The only game I've played of their's that I thought sucked was the Knights of Pen and Paper games. Super boring games.

I'm thinking then they must not have made campaigns for any of the new people, which is super lame and puzzling. Maybe they'll get them in the next patch? Because, honestly, it's the best way to get xp early for them other than grinding Teemo. Yeah, you've got Taliyah's nailed down. I'd imagine Gwen would need to fight probably Hecarim and then Viego. Zoe is really such a pain to get through, especially when you follow up with Viego, although he's not as tough as her. I also just got 50 shards for Eve! Super excited about that.

So I guess that made Fiddle something of a mid-boss then, which is kind of fitting due to him kind of being a puppet. Oh, found this on the wiki! God bless the wiki team for real. I do want to know what happens though and really hope another universe gets this treatment in the future. Oh! Did you want SG Soraka too? I know you like her and wanted to make sure before I submitted her.

Oh a Darkin would work for sure 100% and that would be a good story beat for them. Not that I want to rush them, but there really does need to be story development for both Shurima and the Darkin. Seeing as the Darkin are weaponry focused, maybe they could have some kind of spear and shield combo that differs heavily from Pantheon in some significant way. Like maybe instead of a single Darkin inhabiting one body there's a primary Darkin (the shield) with a secondary vestigal one that's the spear. This shouldn't count as 2 in the Darkin count mind you as the spear is more of a split personality of sorts. Just trying to think of actual middle eastern weapons of the pre-classical period and that was the only defensive one I could really think of. And they could always have a Baccai be the one wielding them, as I don't think there's anything saying they can't do that. Might be dumb ideas, but I'm just trying to come up with fun concepts.
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Stellaris was always at its best when it was a fairly simple story simulator but they have tried adding too much extra gameplay to it weirdly enough, i guess one could even say it almost stopped feeling like a Paradox game due to how much micro managing there is once you get more than a couple planets under your control. I also think its combat is... although very nice to look at not that exciting due to how long it can take for your fleet to travel throughout the galaxy. Never heard of those games but that alone probably says enough of how good they are.

Hmmm any of new people, well havent unlocked Kai'sa or Gwen yet so cant confirm or deny that but, maybe? I mean there are some champs who only have their 1st and 2nd story mission but not the third one so it is certainly possible that they need more time to add them. Damn 50 shards?? Very very good alright cause you will now skip the boring parts of her gameplay since, without the 1st star ability she really lacks more or less everything really. Havent played any LoR yesterday myself but i can get a platinum vault in just 5 fights so probably gonna do in a bit.

Kinda yea but i still have hopes that Fiddle will be back, i believe in him! Yep yep that is great alright, everything i see there seems to be completely accurate too which tbf, i dont remember a time when wiki was wrong about something but still felt like mentioning it, and yea il keep you informed as i go through it, pretty fun to theorize things and such. Hmmm yea thanks i can take Soraka too , very nice of you to mention that soooo thanks again.

Yea a double/split personality Darkin could work, maybe either due to said Darkin always being like that or even due to them having to seal him in two weapons back in the days which caused its "unusual" new existance. There could be a lot more interesting ways to go about it too but i think the idea itself works great as a concept, different than any others and it could easily make sense, maybe it could've just been a Darkin that split its body into two separate ones, after all basically all of them altered their appearances so maybe this one could just be an extreme case, could also be that the Darkin noticed its brethren stared getting sealed and got extremely paranoid and created a second body for that reason and then even aside from all those ideas there are plenty more that could work, really hope they do use the concept in the future tho. And yea no if anything a Baccai should be even better at wielding Darkin weapons compared to humans since they will be a lot less suspectible to being controlled.
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Yes, there's just too much going on now that I feel like it gets so bogged down. And yes, the combat really needs to be redefined because I'd like any of the ship hulls to remain useful throughout the game. Always feel like as soon as I get the newest size of ship class I just start manufacturing those instead of the older ships. Yeah, KoP&P is supposed to be like you're the DM and the party so it just turns into you grinding the current encounters until they're not a threat and then moving on and repeating. Just, not great. Surviving Mars is another I couldn't get into.

Are there any with the third path open yet? Cause everyone I have at 3 star don't have it. Yes, it got her to two stars and starting with 2 mana plus the +1/+1 makes her gameplay so much smoother. Honestly it's as much as an improvement as Lux's 2 star was. I do wonder if at some point they'll allow skins in the Path at some point.

I doubt they'd get rid of him that quickly. If he doesn't return for the event, I have a feeling a defeated Morg will likely meet back up with him to expand their alliance to combat the Guardians. I think Star Nemesis Eve could work quite well. Honestly, the fact they do stuff like that is so helpful for folks like us and is much appreciated. Oh, no problem! Wanna make sure we all get to do the champs we like. I think the profiles turn out better that way.

I actually kind of like the idea of this darkin having being split into two parts and that has splintered its personality between the two parts. Might also imply how powerful that Darkin was. I do like the paranoia angle as well. A Darkin/Baccai combo could be pretty good for differentiation... plus I just like it when the character profiles are mixed up and we've just been getting too many conventional lady bodies lately.
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Yeeeea im definetely pretty guilty of doing that myself, aside from having a very random corvette-destroyer fleet purely used to catch pirate fleets whenever they spawn i only really make battleships and cruisers, or even only battleships depending on how good my alloy production is by that point. Hmmmmmmm i see, well doubt il look into either then thats for sure, because i was under a firm impression that March of The Eagles (its a... worse Victoria 2, yea...) was their worst game but i never really even knew those existed, thy can probably quickly give it a run for its money though.

Hmmm, well i only have Jinx on 3 stars for now and she doesnt so i guess it is possible that nobody has them yet, which i mean eh a bit unfortunate but im sure they will add them with time, they are probably just waiting to slowly ramp up the difficulty before releasing what i will assume are going to be 3-star missions for well 3 star champions. Hmmmmmm, probably i imagine? I mean i have a prismatic Garen and he does keep that in path too so, i imagine its likely not that hard to make skins work there too.

Yeeea about that, one of the writers did talk a bit about Fiddle and he really makes it sound like he is just actually Harp herself, which, doesnt make sense since Fiddle existed before anyone on the original team died/corrupted but i geeennerally dont really like considering writer "statements" much for league, it is a bit worrying when it comes to believing Fiddle will come back later on tho... Hmmm yea, Star Nemesis Eve could work quite quite well, for some reason i can see Aatrox being able to make a good Star Nemesis too as long as he is more in the same vain as Fiddle, although i do think Evelynn would still be a better pick in case they continue the trend. Do agree there too alright, saw the original batch of SG and Ekko got approved too so cant wait to see you update them too! Im gonna request mine after i finish editing 2 profiles from a different series,.

Yeap yeap it could be that there was no weapon strong enough to contain him either so he had to be sealed into two, a lot of possibilities to make it work really. And yeea we have been getting a lot of em, iirc its cause Riot said they are trying to even up the ratio of Male and Female champions, so we are getting a lot more of the latter this year since well, all are female coincidentally enough. Still that aside, after having Bel'veth and Nilah also released, i think this year's champions have been pretty good for the lore, but terrible for gameplay, kinda have very notable to huge problems for all 4 of this years champions (Zeri, Renata, Bel'veth, Nilah), Renata least so ironically enough considering how much i ranted about her in the start.
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I try to build balanced fleets but when I see the smaller ships just get continually ripped apart, I quickly start not even bothering with them. I'm honestly not even sure how to properly balance it either (maybe having fleet cap divided by class?), but a game that was very good at making ships across all classes useful the whole way through was Sins of a Solar Empire. Now that was a good game. Honestly, as much as I love Paradox, they do have their share of turds. I really hate the Magicka games and that mafia xcom game was mediocre at best.

I have Annie, Yas and Illaoi at 3 stars and can confirm they don't have a third mission either. I would assume it's the difficulty thing, although it's still odd to not include at least a starting mission for each of the new people. I think allowing the skins would be a fun way to change things up or even make it a way to earn veteran versions of the champs or something by completing their three star mission. And, like, I really don't like the prismatics tbh. Honestly prefer the non-champion ones because I think the effect looks better.

Okay, yeah, no, that does not make a lick of sense. I could see Fiddle being empowered by having Harp's familiar and not being Harp himself cause that's just silly imo. Honestly, I like the idea of the Nemesis champs coming in pairs and Eve and Aatrox could honestly work quite well together. I'll try to get all of them profile pics at least tonight. I'm under taking a long term project to clear up some stuff on MtG characters, which might take a minute, but I should be able to knock three of those out fairly rapidly.

And see, I like that as a story telling tool to illustrate a character's power without having to overtly tell us. It'd also be kind of funny if the shield part of him made pained sounds when he gets hit and stuff like that to make him slightly comical, but menacing. I've honestly never counted the number of male vs female champs, but I always though there were more female than males? Or maybe I just got that impression from the skin distributions. I have liked the updates to the lore too, but they really do keep releasing op champs or unplayable champs with little middle ground. At least LoR is usually pretty balanced.

*Edit* Plane Designer is here and... nothing too groundbreaking.
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Id say even just adding more modules for the small ships could work, more specifically modules which are specifically made to hurt bigger ships, example being heavy-load bombs which can only be used once per fight but hit extremely hard, id also make them have really short range so it cant be abused but still even just that module could make them more viable as large ships do have a problems hitting the smaller ones due to their high evasion. In the end it should make both fleets try prioritizing smaller class ships at least a bit, as one side would try using the "nukes" while the other would want smaller ships to protect from them but oh well thats just single idea. Hmmm never heard of that game but if its like a better version of stellaris will definetely check it out eventually.

Hmmmmm, considering neither Yas or Jinx have them i guess nobody should, as they were in the original path batch. Hmmmm, at bare minimum id say beating the 3 star mission should give an icon for them, and a rare (or even epic) item for them in Path that can only be earned by well beating the 3 star mission, both of those rewards should be pretty easy to implement and it also wouldnt lower their skin sales or make them invest significant work into something, sooo with even just said icon and item id be very content. I do kinda agree, i think the gold color is a bit eh on a lot of champions, i just have it on Garen because, imo it looks good on him in specific.

I do hope it was just a single writers opinion rather than something thats gonna be revealed in the story, which i have yet to continue, 3 points off from unlocking next act so will edit when/if something interesting gets revealed in it. Mhm i also did think that Shyvana and Aatrox could work pretty well as a combo purely cause they could look very aesthethically similar due to the horns/helmet, plus i really would like for Shyvana to get a good alternate universe skin, i think Ruined is pretty good and Super Galaxy is nice but aside from those two, i think all of her other skins suck A LOT, and they are all extremely random and unrelated to any skinline. Yea no of course, take as long as you need.

Yea maybe in their joke emote the shield would complain that he is always the one getting hit, only for the spear part to lash back at him due to them being the same person hence sharing the pain, just very funny shenanigans but that level of comical should only be reserved for the joke while the rest is reserved for the grunts/etcetc, as i dont want the darkin to have a dynamic too similar to Rhaast and Kayn (Although i do have to say i absolutely adore those two as a combo) Hmmmm iirc when only human champions are counted the number is only slightly male sided, but when monster/non-human champions are included there is 36 more male than female champions, ratio being 98 to 62. or at least those are the numbers i remember. Either way im fine with them trying to balance it out but i would prefer if they took it a bit more slowly, especially as now there are rumors the shuriman tank might also be female which would make 5 in a row.

Huuuuh, i mean honestly, i expected a lot more, there really isnt even that much for me to comment on there, its basically just a toned down tank designer in essence. I guess its nice that we can experiment a lot with plane types but, yea...

Oh btw i dont know if you knew but seems the next skins we are getting are Steel Valkyrie ones (Gun Goddess MF ones) , some stuff was leaked and personally uhh, yea i like that, i would prefer if we got Odyssey for the sci-fi skins but really dont mind at all.
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That could work. Maybe they could take a cue from the specialized B-Wings from Star Wars that could be equipped with this specialized laser array that was meant to take out large slow moving capital ships. It'd have to be stupid expensive, but that could work. I'm thinking maybe too there could be some specialized modules for smaller ships that helped them into specialized roles. Honestly, looking at Star Wars for ideas would just be a great idea, like if you could get a small ship that could carry one squadron of fighters for specialized missions. Oh man is Sins a great game. It's only got 3 factions, but they're so distinct and if you get the Rebellion expansion, each faction gets split into 2 sub-factions. It's also much more focused on warfare, so if that's what you like, you're in the right place.

I'd be perfectly happy with an item and icon. Maybe an alternate version of the prismatic if they want to go that way with the color matching with their faction color (so like Shurima would get a brilliant gold). I have Kai'Sa prismatic because of the event tree and I think it looks good on her. Prismatic Braum looks terrible, although that might be because I despise his upgraded art. Just looks super weird.

From what I was reading, it does appear Fiddle was the fully corrupted Harp. That's not the worst "twist" ever, but it is a tad bit disappointing. Oh, yeah, Aatrox and Shyv would work quite well and they would work well into the lore they seem to building now. I've never had too much of a problem with Shyv's skins, although they usually are pretty tame elemental edits. I do also like her LoR Dark Star skin, but I know how you feel about them. I think I've got Fugitive Ekko done btw.

Yes, definitely make their relationship almost brotherly/bickering focused and without too much anger towards each other. That way they're a bit more comedic, but still serious when it comes to actually fighting. Maybe somewhat similar to Legolas and Gimli's bro thing. Ah, okay, that makes sense. I do wish we would get more monstrous/bulky ladies as opposed to the more thin/traditionally attractive ladies we're been getting. I really do love Illaoi's design (especially after Ruined King) and I do wish we could get some more well muscled ladies. Honestly feel like Sej could do to be bulked up, although I guess food is a premium for her clan.

Yeah, I was kind of disappointed. I like that we can make the multi-role fighters, but I do wish we could make some more experimental designs. I saw someone asking in the comments if they could use a bomber frame to make an escort bomber armed purely with AA turrets and the devs said the turrets only provide defense for the craft itself. I find that... disappointing, as such a design was attempted irl, but it just wasn't practical. I also wonder if we'll be able to make things like the Ho 229 bomber that was an early stealth plane.

I had heard about the monster trainers, but I hadn't heard about the Valkyries. Kind've disappointed about that, kinda burnt out on sexy lady skins.
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I mean yea SW both has great ideas when it comes just to concepts for space stuff but Empire at War is also just a great game when it comes to space combat. Although i do much prefer that Stellaris lets me make my own types of ships, i will say though that the ship designer feels wasted, 9/10 times i just go for the same design because there just isnt that much of an incentive to not go for the same one. I did actually go and check the game out some more after reading what you just said, looked interesting so i already got it just need to download and install it, something which i will do over night because wifi is too too terrible during the day.

Oh yea that could work, even just a being being able to pick one from like 5 colors for the prismatiq would be great, should be easier to code that way and they wouldnt need to do special stuff for each Runeterran champion. I dont hate Braum's upgraded art due to the poros, but i do think its made to look far too bright, a bit too much, so its just oooookay in the end for me.

Yea il be honest i dont like it at all but oh well, "worse" so for some reason my points bugged out so that act 2 is still eluding me. Either way uhhh, i mean the ice one is fine but they are just extremely outdated sooo yea... As far as Dark Star Shyvana goes, i actually think it looks cool af and its easily among my 3 favourite dark star skins, i just forgot to mention it since LoR exclusive, there are some more Dark Star Skins i like aesthethically (Dark Star Cho/Lux/Thresh) i just dont find the lore of dark star interesting in general and some of the skins are imo the worst skins in the game (Dark Star Malphite is worse than base Malphite, got the skin from a box and it is barely playable due to how clunky it feels on an old champion). Yea Ekko looks good, everything adds up and lies just about where he should be, below Shen but above the normal Remembrancers.

Yea Illaoi is pretty dope especially in Ruined King, but i will just be honest and say that i dont really like her overall but thats PURELY because of her gameplay in League, and because im a top laner, i think gameplay wise she is one of the worst designed champions in the game pretty easily, but the lore and actual design are both pretty darn good. Well true but at same time Udyr is quite "shredded" to say the least, bulking Sej up a bit çould work imo but at same time i really dont mind how she is now as she is still bulkier than most, even if its nowhere near as clear as Illaoi's case.

Oh... i didnt even go into the comments but yea that kinda, sucks, cause at that point the "Anti-Air Bomber" just does nothing. And i mean maybe? I didnt go through every single module but, seemingly there really wont be that much experimenting for long or so i feel due to how "simple" the system is, the best designs should be figured out quite fast on it.

The monster trainers are fine yea, or rather, i like Lulu and Kog cause they look like the perfect funny combo but Veigar is terrible im. Yea but same BUT, from the leaks, apparently the champions in the skinline will be Lux for the Valkyiries and Nasus and Garen for Dreadnovas, those people are confident in at least, some believe the other valkyrie could be irelia and others believe it could be camille. Sooo i mean hey its a possible Nasus skin, something im always excited for, especially since Dreadnova could work suprisingly well for him i reckon.

Edit: Omg the Udyr gameplay trailer is finally here seemingly wont fuse stances but at this point im just happy he is finally coming!
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I really need to replay EaW at some point. I have it downloaded on my computer with a couple of the highly recommended mods, but I'm just not sure when I'm going to be able to be able to dip my toes into that nostalgia pool. Yeah, the ship designer really needs to be reworked some to encourage the necessity for varied ships for different roles while still making the smaller ships worthwhile. Like, I feel like we should be able to run fleets focused on smaller ships and be able to make that work because of our doctrine or something. And maybe to encourage the use of older designs there could be a construction time nerf to new designs to show that the ship yards have to be reconfigured for that kind of thing. (and I mean wholly new ship designs and not just module improvements) If you do end up really enjoying Sins and want to get into the modding side, there's a pretty damn good Star Trek mod and I think the Thrawn's Revenge team made a conversion mod there as well.

I mean, it's a workable enough premise, but I really would've preferred for Fiddle to have simply been his own entity. Oh, dang, that sucks! Oh, yes, lord, freaking Malphite sucks. I also am not a huge fan of Varus's twin skins either as it's needlessly confusing. I also don't like JIV or Kassadin (mostly because he was shoehorned in). That being said, yes, love Cho and Thresh while I also like Morde and I love Nidalee, even though I've not gotten to play with that particular skin. Cool, I've released him into the wild and I'll start working on Jinx and MF.

Yeah, I feel like her tentacles could be more refined and I also have never liked her ult, but from lore and looks she is absolutely exquisite. She looks really good in the fighting game they're working on too. Yeah, just making Sej look more muscular would be a nice change imo. Definitely lacking the more smoothed out muscles Illaoi has due to the fat on her, but Sej should still be shredded. Her mace is supposed to be a ton or more in weight after all.

I'm just worried they're making it a tad too simplified. And yeah, we're probably going to end up finding the most optimal builds for each frame very very quickly due to how limited everything looks. Like how the engines are going to be pure straight upgrades and no real choice between types like there are for diesel and gas engines for tanks. Just some missed opportunities, but I'm still happy we're getting it.

Yes, I saw! He looks great visually, although I think the ram transformation looks a little weird. I'm sad there won't be the comboing, but he still looks and feels like Udyr, which is what matters most. Also love Boar replacing turtle. Makes way too much sense.
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Doctrines yea, thats something that could work great to help Stellaris cause, i mean i like that there is a lot of tech to research but for most part, there really isnt that much choice to it, options are random which is fine but even if we focus on laser weapons, we can just get missile ones later on, id prefer if our research was more "limited" or well... id prefer if our choices had more impact on what is the next tech we can research, would give a lot more replayability and open up more niche playstyles with extra tech added for it. Well... as far as Sins goes for some reason i cant actually get to run the game at all, been trying to do it for over a day but seemingly havent been able to fix it yet, might just have to completely delete and reinstall it at this point, thanks for the info either way tho, mods are always very appreciated.

Coincidentally enough Cosmic Kassadin is one of my "more liked" cosmic skins, my by far the least liked is Cosmic Illaoi, it even being probably among my 10 least liked skins in the whole game, and then the other two i really dont like are Cosmic Xayah and Rakan, i dont like the lore of skinline in general, but they dont even fit the cooler parts of the aesthethic (example of cooler looking parts being Nidalee and Yi). And yea as you said i do also think Nidalee is probably the best Cosmic skin, idk it just really feels like it fits what the skinline is trying to be essentially perfectly. Whelp il be sure to check em whenever you give me the heads up alright.

Mhm i agree, her passive, Q and W are completely fine, her problems are E and Ult. Because it makes her have a completely degenerate gameplay loop, if you go onto her you will die UNLESS you counterpicked her, and if you stay away you will slowly get poked by her E, its completely unfun, uninteractive, but worst of all, outside of laning phase Illaoi just sucks ass so she is both frustrating as hell to play against, while also being pretty bad as a champion all around, i could easily write a small essay just about how bad her gameplay design is but that wouldnt have much use besides keep me angry. Oh and yea i did hear about it, i did also hear that Project L will also be completely free to play sooo, i will at least definetely check it out, eventhough i am not really interested in fighting games overall.

Yea same im happy but, it does feel like it was probably the least focused part of the update, whereas i feel the air-update should have been the primary focus of the update, it is a change to one of the key parts of the game after all.

Yea i think it feels like its missing some extra horns, if the ram one had that it would look great i feel. But yea he still does look like Udyr and Boar is a great change, one thing i will also say though, i saw his splash and, idk it definetely feels a bit odd looking imo, purely cause of the perspective id say.

As a side note, uhhh, i really hope the another sky wiki page updates fully because, i might not be able to finish the event, there is currently a bug where a lot of people including myself just cannot get points at all for it. Seemingly ever since chapter 3 it has been happening a lot and all i can say is that i really hope they fix it, because there are only 9 days left of the event, and i really like, i would be bummed out as hell if i didnt get to finish it myself.
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Maybe if there were even some origins that would give access to specific doctrines or just buffs (like if you select one that gives you organic ships that have increased regen, but have a size cap/weapon cap attached to them). Honestly, I'd like that system for naval and land warfare to add some more variety to play without over complicating things. I also like the idea that the longer you go down a research path, the more likely you are to go for research in that specific field. Right now it's way too easy to unlock all weapon types and I personally think you should only be able to unlock 2 types and not all without some kind of negatives, even if they are just reduced research times. Oh dang, I've never had any problems getting mine to launch. Hopefully it's just a reinstall thing, but if you're doing it through Steam, you might verify the file integrity.

It is def a cool skin, just doesn't really feel like it should be a part of the Event Horizon line. I will admit I didn't know that skin for Illaoi existed, but I do like its splash. Can't weigh in on anything else, though. And yeah, Xayah and Rakan's skins just don't look great and have largely been replaced by their SG skins anyways. Looking though the rest of the cosmic ones, I really like Skarner and Anivia's and I've always liked Ashe's. So, Jinx is done, I'm like 95% sure and MF should be done by tonight if everything goes to plan. Will appreciate your input.

The ult is definitely one that needs to be changed out. I'll admit I like the E because it makes Illaoi support work. I do think the Test should really be her ult, though, as lore wise it is her ultimate ability. Maybe it could be changed to her entering into an Avatar state of sorts that boosted her tentacle spawn time and base ad/cool down times. Might be a cooler visual too and make the ult not completely useless without a ton of set up. But, yeah, she's got a huge number of problems that need to be dealt with. I am super intrigued by Project L... that being said, I suuuuuuck at fighting games.

I really feel like the engines could've just done the reliability thing the engines for tanks did. I am happy I'll be able to make my canon fighters, though as the JU-87G is one of my favorite aircraft of all times.

Oh... just saw that splash now and gross. Makes it look like he's come home to beat his wife. But, yes, in game he looks good, but I still prefer his LoR look on the splash side.

Well, that freaking sucks! Hopefully whoever's doing the wiki doesn't have a similar issue. If you don't get to finish it, there should be some kid of compensation for such a hyped event.
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Tbf in Stellaris "land warfare" is a whole topic of its own, cause it might be one of the least focused ascept of the entire game which, personally i dont mind since its obviously supposed to be a space focused game but, the space combat also isnt too great, granted some of the suggestions we made would go a far way to help. I feel in the end Stellaris focused too much on "story flavor" because as far as your own campaign having a story goes the only paradox game that rivals it is Crusader Kings, but at same time CK2 is great in most/all other ascepts sooo yea. Oh well in the end i think Stellaris is fairly good but, suprisingly "worse" than i expected it would be after this many updates and DLCs, back when i played it on launch i thought it would be their best game after said updates but not really at all.

Yea yea Ashe is an easy pick for one that looks good, Skarner i like too but one i always kinda am not sure about is Cosmic Vlad, i like the skin but at the same time i thought mistake it for a Varus skin extremely often. But oh well lemme take a look real quick. Both Jinx and MF look great! Well done alright! Slightly related question, was gonna request my part of SG and i thought should i put just "Nemesis Fiddle/Morgana" or "Star Nemesis Fiddle/Morgana"? Both sound good so just am not sure i guess.

I liked Illaoi's E a lot in the past when, you could actually make your soul be released sooner if you attacked Illaoi, that way you had actual counterplay if she hit you instead of just taking free damage, but now that it has been removed even as great as the ability is from a lore perspective, i think it sucks too much in the gameplay department, it being changed to the ult or even just having the part i previously mentioned returned would help a lot. Well that makes two of us then! I am a most infamous button masher in basically any fighting game i ever played.

Yea i mean, as far as that aspect goes even the current system is better due to how much more important reliability is for planes, but ohhhh well.. Ah my favourite plane would likely be B-17, just like big planes really, but tbf JU-87G was much more important and easily amongst the most influential (if not the most influential) planes in ww2, at least definetely so if only the european front is accounted for.

LOL, yea as funny as i find the joke he really does appear as that kinda "lad" in the splash, that aside though uhhh yea i definetely prefer his LoR look myself, ingame he does look amazing but the Splash just feels... extremely wrong, also doubt it could work that well as an image here either since its a pretty big closeup while his face is extremely high in the image.

It does BUT, the points have finally started rolling down, seems they lag, 2-3 days behind, so i guess il just have to spam the shit out of games in the next 2-3 days so i can stack enough points to breeze through the rest of the story. Either way uh managed to unlock Acts 2-3 of Chapter 3, and Act 1 of Chapter 4. Overall several things happened but at the same time not that much, most importantly for the story Akali kinda, left the Guardians and sided with Morgana... because, Kai'sa is more focused on being the Captain instead of her friend, and because becoming a Star Guardians means she will die, which she would anyways but now it can happen several hundred years later or more? I think that "twist" was stupid and kinda forced as hell to just give Akali more importance, since she did bicker with Kai'sa a lot in earlier chapters but they made up and now suddenly she is going full evil because?? I dont think it makes any sense especially as she seemingly doesnt care about Morgana sending a monster to kill people in the city, makes me like the skin even less than before (Which i didnt like it earlier, still think it looks stupid, but its also annoying as hell to play agaist in game, very loud visual effects). Other than that Morgana has slowly started releasing new monsters into the city and preparing for the final fight. Aside from the story aspects the new SG's do seem like they are the weakest team yet overall, as they did have some trouble against a Herald Nilah defeated in the past, not specified if it was Nilah alone or with a team but either way Nilah is definetely treated as someone who is certainly above them, oh and at the same time we did get confirmation that she cant really fight Morgana in an actual fight, still i do think she should be at least as strong as Ahri or Lux but likely even stronger imo due to quite a lot of importance being put on someone being an "Outer Guardian". But ye thats about all the updates for now, sorry for the spam if its a bit much, just wanted to put out all the now info i got even if it is a long read.
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I just wish there was some flavor to the ground battles. Not like we controlled them directly or anything, just that we could focus on specific things or make it to where we really could have warrior races that were good to bring on for ground invasions. Honestly, I don't think Paradox is ever going to be able to top CK2. It's as close to perfect for a grand strategy game as you can get, especially once they added the shattered world options. Honestly, I think Stellaris just needs to benefit from some streamlining and it'd be fantastic.

Yeah, Vlad seems off and I'm surprised he wasn't a Dark Cosmic skins tbh. It is a skin line I hope they do some kind of end game style war in it and have the cosmic entities duke it out. Be cool at least. Awesome! I'll release them into the wild. I would say just calling them Nemesis would be appropriate. The only other possible conflict there is Nemesis Jax, but he literally has no lore attached to that skin.

That'd be a sensible enough change to make it more than fair. Even if you had to hit her three times if they're worried about making it to weak would be fine imo. The only fighting game I ever got good at was Soul Calibur 2 and that was because Knightmare had a big ass sword. Other than that, though, I try to learn, I'm just not great at memorizing all the combos and stuff. Oh, I was good at Destroy All Monsters Melee too, but that doesn't count.

I just like being able to choose between performance and reliability. Adds a slight bit of choice to matters. Oh, yes, the B17 was a great bomber! Honestly, I love most WW2 planes outside of a rare handful like the I-16 or the other bizarre biplanes. The main reason I like the 87G in particular is because of how funny it was in WarThunder to get a bead on a bomber and OHKO it with a shot from the dual 37s. That being said, the JU87 was a great airframe, although it really started showing its age by 44. It desperately needed a modernization, but the Nazis were too busy trying to make rocket interceptors. I would be interested to see where the development of dive bombers would go in a hypothetical scenario where jet engines were delayed or something along those lines.

Yeah, it's just got so many problems. Hopefully they'll make a centered version of it... but I still wouldn't use it. It just looks off and unappealing. I know how much time and effort the artists put in, but this would've been one I'd have asked them to try again.

Huh... That certainly is a lot of heel turns for one character in such a short span of time. I guess they were kind of hinting at it with that shadow trailer, but that sounds more annoying than compelling. And yeah, what, did Akali seriously think becoming a Star Guardian meant immortality? Hopefully they'll make that headache worth something, but that's still pretty silly. Okay, yes, I'm thinking Nilah being a trainer and with all that experience she'd at least be falling into the 40-50k range at the least. And you're fine, I welcome these info dumps.
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The warrior race idea sounds good, but what i would also add is, a system that makes the planets type more important when it comes to ground battles. An example, just regular human units should have a much harder time invading a water planet, so it would be nice to either have to invest into tech to alleviate that OR get aquatic species to fight for you, would make "non-purge" playstyles more appealing while also giving a bit more purpose to the galactic slave market, as it would make getting those specific species we need easier. And yea i agree on both of the things you mentioned about CK2 and Stellaris.

Perhaps yea, i doubt it will ever get something on the level of Star Guardian or Ruination but i can definetely see it getting a Chaos V Order treatment, with a bit more added story flavour to it as more characters would be included into it. If Nemesis Jax ever needs to be added i will request him as "Real Weapon Jax" even if it meant me getting banned from the site, because i dont think there is absolutely any possibility for the skin to get any relevant lore, so im willing to wager that. But jokes aside thanks, i prefered the short version too but do always like asking, gonna go and add them now i guess.

In an ideal system, id say each hit reduced the Duration by 2 seconds, and then id also make it so that Illaoi's E lasts longer with levels, it lasting 6 seconds on level 1 E, and it getting +2 seconds for each level put into E up to a maximum of 14 at level 5, so it would start at 3 but end up at 7 hits later on which is fair i think. Yea nah i plain out sucked at all fighting games besides some of the Naruto: Storm games but, they are very different from basically any other one, wouldnt even consider them fighting games really. Aside from that i did always play a lot of Soul Calibur, i just sucked ass at it because im also terrible at remembering combos, always played Yoshimitsu cause i found him funny when i was a kid, kinda just ended up sticking with him through next games afterwards.

Yea i dont generally like ww2 biplanes much either, and since you mentioned WarThunder i like I-16 type 10 even less so because, as someone who has always played german planes (or tanks), getting oneshot by a lucky rocket hit from an I-16 was the peak of my plights in that game. But yea im, honestly really not sure, JU87 was already such a great design that i cant even think of how it could be improved in a meaningful manner without it just being able to carry more/bigger bombs while still keeping the same mobility.

Hmmm, doubt thats ever gonna happen since a lot of people do also seemingly like it but, yea i would say its likely one of my least liked splashes currently in game (for base skins). The only other one i dont like as much comparatively is Mundo's one but thats mostly because i just dont like the direction they took with his rework in general.

I dont know, thats kinda the main problem with her, because surely she would be prepared to put her life on the line after willingly becoming a guardian even after she saw what Zoe did to Valoran City, kinda makes it feel like, she is being dramatic just so that her and Kai'sa would still be the main point of the event, which i wouldnt mind if it was set up properly, but at the same time i would also really like if some extra focus got put on the other new Guardians. Yea that sounds like a good safe point for her imo as well. Whew will keep bringing them up alright, still waiting for the next batch of points to come which should unlock the rest of chapter 4, will make sure to inform you of what happens then ofc.
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Yes, that would be a great way of differentiating species and might add some reason to actually form multi-cultural empires/slave empires. And there wouldn't be much to animate there or anything. Unless they wanted to add in the ability to gene mod specific members of your species and add like gills for water adaptability. Idk, it would go a long way to adding thought to your ground battles.

I would gladly take a simple event like that and have it be a definitive end for the skin line/universe. I just like seeing conflicts have endings and not exist for eternity. Yeah. I honestly doubt they'll ever add any context to the skin unless they do a full VGU for Jax and even then I still doubt they would add anything more than a sentence. I always prefer shortened names, especially when it makes more sense in universe. Unless there's something else they're referred to in universe as something else.

That's a sensible enough way to make the target able to counter the ability but without making it useless and better as a harassing move. I never got around to playing any of the Naruto games, but the combat for the fighting ones looked interesting enough to me. Yeah, I'm usually not too great at remembering combos either, but my friends really liked the game and I ended up practicing so I could play along. Yoshimitsu was actually pretty good even though he was pretty goofy. And, um, Voldo is straight up cursed.

As realistic as WarThunder can be, it never was able to really show how ineffectual designs like that were. And, yes, I've always preferred using German or American tanks in games due to their handling, accuracy and reliable armor. The JU87 was just having a lot of issues by the end of the war with its speed and maneuverability. Honestly, it probably just needed a new engine and a slight rework of the wings. Nothing too drastic.

Oh, I just meant they sometimes release centered versions of the splash arts for the stories. And yeah, I don't really like Mundo much anymore. He's gone too far to the sinister/dumb side and away from the goofy. Also I hate the new licking sound he makes.

Maybe they're just trying to turn her into the next Star Nemesis or something? For as awesome as the SG story has generally been, the Akali developments have been so weird and nigh schizophrenic. I do think there needs to be development for all of the guardians, which is something all the other events have done well with their new teams. Thank you so much for keeping me in the loop. I only have like 1-2 hours of free time in the evening anymore and it's hard to do League stuff.
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I think rather than being able to gene-mod specifics like that, i kinda wish they would expand on the gene-modification playstyle as a whole. Wouldnt it just be cool if the upgrades were split into regular ones (stronger, smarter, etc etc basic ones) and stronger/more specific upgrades? The latter only being attainable through capturing and researching other species we capture, to almost in a way assimilate their strongest/best genes. Would give a nice update to the whole gene-mod stuff WHILE also creating a whole new playstyle where, insta-killing other species pops isnt the "ideal route". Idk i think it would just be an extremely fun and unique playstyle with us running around the galaxy, collecting other species to make ourselves the ultimate life form.

I do prefer shortened names myself tbf just uh, happen to suck at thinking them up most of the time.

Its pretty fun and different, would i reccomend it? Ehhh, i think its a lot of fun if someone likes Naruto as a series or has friends to play it with, other than that i cant really reccomend them since, story mode can only be so interesting if one isnt invested (Except in Storm 3, story mode there is great regardless of one being a naruto fan because its just got amazing boss fights) and pvp is kinda dead online due to the games being extremely old. Yeeea we dont really talk about Voldo... I do think Soul Calibur is still my favourite out of the non-naruto fighting games, while it still focuses on combos it isnt as intensive on it as Tekken for example which ive, grown to dislike more and more over time.

Always played either German or Russian tanks anywhere really although mostly German, i guess probably because i just found the eastern front the most entertaining part of WW2 always. Yea yea of course, by the end of the war it did start getting a bit outdated but, the minor upgrades would help it a ton.

I dont only dislike his, looks/lore due to it being more serious but i also do just think his gameplay is worse too, it suffers from the same problems as before while also losing his special trait of being a specifically great tank against AP damage, he just feels like a blank version of what once Mundo was.

Hmmmm, yea that could be true, Morgana might be trying to turn her into the next Fiddle now that Fiddle is seemingly gone, she does try manipulating Akali a lot tbf, will assume thats probably what they are going with. For other guardians, their mini-stories are pretty fun but havent read them all yet, and they are also pretty light hearted with, Taliyah's being about the Cafe Cuties and Rell really liking the "Derelict Emperor" comic where Sir Skarner stops Viego who is the said emperor. Still id love for them to actually contribute in the main one, aside from teaming up to fight Fiddlesticks legitimately nothing would change if everyone besides Akali and Kai'sa got removed. And yea no problem ofc! I love talking about it or anything league related, do hope you get some more free time soon.

Edit: Hoooly, Riot released a 2023 champion/preseason video and there is SO MUCH to go over. Finally got a look into some parts of Asol's rework, looks good imo althoguh i do hope they change other parts too, bit of a shame the stars are gone but oh well. Got a view on how the Ahri Visual update will look like and yea uh her ingame model is definetely getting a huge update. Other than that on reworks part we are confirmed to get mini-reworks (Swain or Olaf style) for Neeko and Syndra which i am both extremely excited about, like damn i was actually hoping id hear those exact words and it came up. And then finally we are also confirmed to get a new Ixtal enchanter type champ but more importantly a new Darkin champion! Shit part is, its gonna be an assassin and the weapon is a dagger but, at least its a darkin. Oh and K'santi is the name of the shuriman tank and he seems, interesting from what they revealed in the video. All around i loved hearing about more or less every part of the video, had me very excited

Edit 2: Okay so didnt want to make the comment too long but finally got the stories done for the SG stuff and, honestly a lot of stuff has happened. First well, the new guardian team + Nilah defeated Morgana, she did beat them at the start pretty handily but then they got empowered by the First Light even more after which she, kinda just lost. BUT, more importantly a lot more stuff was revealed, The Dark Star is actually the counterpart to The First Light by looks of it with Morgana being one of its servants. I suppose a different variation of the Dark Star Champions in a way but still, serving the same thing, it being The Dark Star. Also it does seem like the next time we get Star Guardian lore it will be the new main focus, as it has both talked to Kai'sa in her visions/dreams. BUT, Syndra is also apparently really connected to the Dark Star, with it talking to her directly and seemingly her eyepatch/eye being the door to it or something along those lines, with her also maybe being the daughter of the First Star? But that part is extremely vague and can only be interpreted from the way the Dark Star talks to her. Either way whenever she does take it off she becomes a lot more powerful as she starts well, being empowered by the Dark Star as well. Overall just a lot of great setup for the future of both Dark Stars and SG's as they might try fusing the skinlines, the story likely going to be focusing on The Dark Star either being fully unleashed or the cycle of Star Guardians being broken, or both really.
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I could take that. I do wish there was more practical benefit to having different species in your empire and that would be a way to make it so. Honestly, there's plenty of sci fi races that do just that like the Xenomorphs and Tyranids, so it'd be a way to show that. I also kind of wish there was a way to play to where there were very few of your original species and they were immortal from the start to play up like an Asgardian playthrough (both Stargate and Marvel). Oh, we got the next HoI4 dev diary. Nothing too special, although I like that you can actually essentially train up generals now and the medals for divisions is a good way to train base divisions into elite divisions.

I think I remember watching a playthrough of Storm 3. Does it cover the whole Naruto story or just the Shippuden stuff? Cause I read the whole manga but never watched through the entire anime. Yeah, very few things from the 360/PS3 era have functioning mp anymore. Oh god, I absolutely hate Tekken's system. I just can't come to grips with it. At least I feel like with something like Street Fighter I can at least have fun even while sucking. Speaking of fighting games, I really wish they'd resurrect Primal Rage or something like it. I don't wanna play as dudes, I wanna be a T Rex fighting a scorpion.

I will say the only reason I kind of avoid Russian tanks in things like World of Tanks and WarThunder is because they end up having a bit of a bias associated towards them, at least in my approximations (and kind of got confirmed when the head developer for the former came out as in support of the invasion of Ukraine). The numbers for WW2 era Russian vehicles really doesn't take into account the quality of the steel used, which should increase the chances of spalling and probably weaken the overall effectiveness of the armor by 10-20% due to the relative brittleness. American tanks of course had the opposite problem and were too far on the malleable side, although this was partly intentional to make repairs easier. Idk how you'd reflect that in game. All that being said, I do ultimately look for the overall characteristics of the vehicle and that's why I'm drawn to the German and American vehicles. Gun performance is always my priority with accuracy and penetration coming before damage. Honestly my favorite armored vehicle of all time is the Panzer III and the StuG III because I feel like they just get everything right for the part of the war they were in. Wish the PZ III had been able to fit larger guns, but that's what the StuG conversion was for. I will also say that Italy had some truly fantastic aircraft designs which they really should've focused their doctrine around.

I've seen similar comments in the past on the redesign. I honestly don't understand why they altered his kit. Outside of a visual update, he didn't really need anything in the gameplay department outside of maybe some number tweaks/modernization.

I mean, that is ultimately the direction that would make the most sense. I would definitely expect some kind of twist to happen, though. Maybe they'll reveal that the original (for us) team have all fallen, although that would be realy frickin stupid and I would hate them forever. No hurt Lux. I'd also imagine the fans of those characters would like them to actually do stuff in the main story, although I assume the side stories offer some amount of satisfaction for them (and they do sound cute). Oh, I've started work on Nilah. Only have her powers in and have not done any stats. Did read both of her stories too. Sigh, if only, lol.

Okay, I watched through it all and honestly, it all sounds good. I did think the Ahri update looked pretty good and the Swain update sounded pretty exciting. I will also say the ASol update is looking absolutely magnificent. Looks like they actually are moving his ult to his q, which is something we had said we both wanted. I absolutely loved the teaser for the Ixtali Enchanter. Whatever those things were, I want plushes of them to join my Poro plush. I am disappointed they're going with a dagger for the Darkin, but I did notice he said "Daggers" plural. Wonder if maybe we'll be getting something like the spear and shield we envisioned? K'Santi does sound intriguing to me. Almost sounds like he'll be able to switch between an offensive and defensive mode to me. Also the concept art for those skins were absolutely amazing. Loved Urgot's especially, although Draven throwing chainsaws around is a great visual.
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Honestly eventhough really short i really liked the dev diary, really love the idea of the medals as it sounds great from both the gameplay and roleplay aspect definetely my favourite part of this diary in specific. Other than that uhh, i like the cohesion and division commander parts too, nothing too important but, decent quality of life improvements nonetheless

Storm 3 covers mostly the shippuden story, and not even in its entirety. It starts with a flashback of Kurama's rampage, but aside from that Storm 3 starts at the beginning of Shippuden, and ends in early War Arc, which is around, 60-70% deep into shippuden. Lol, never heard of Primal Rage before but after checking into it and seeing the T-Rex fight what i can only describe as a "weird Yeti" im definetely intrigued, seems like just good fun.

Oh yea for sure, had no idea about the head developer supporting the invasion but even that aside the power of "Stalinium" is well known in community for a reason, Soviet tanks are easily better than German or American ones when they are of the same tier, fighting an IS-1 as a Tiger 1 always felt like an uphill battle for me just as one example. Hmmm favourite Armored Vehicle for me would have to be Panzer III and the Tiger Tank, Panzer III was definetely far better made for its time but, there is just something about the Tiger Tank , even for all of its problems aside i just love the box-like tank for what it is! Hmmmm, i see i see, honestly my knowledge on planes is far worse than armored/land related stuff so while i did know Italians had some good planes, didnt know they had some fantastic ones too but hey the more you know.

Hmmm, i think the only thing he needed was a passive change because, 2.5% max health every 5 seconds is, pretty bad, but aside from that id change nothing, which kinda shows too since, overall none of his regular abilities got changed vastly besides his W i suppose, but it is still a short rage aoe spell in the end. It was just a waste of a rework spot imho.

Okay so about that finally got the stories done for the SG stuff and, honestly a lot of stuff has happened. First well, Akali was kinda just faking being evil, which, i dont think is a good "anti-twist", she let people get attacked in front of her and it makes Morgana look kind of stupid in the end since she fully trusted someone who changed sides 3 times in 3 chapters, but oh well that aside, the new guardian team + Nilah did defeat Morgana, she did beat them at the start pretty handily but then they got empowered by the First Light even more after which she, kinda just lost. BUT, more importantly a lot more stuff was revealed, The Dark Star is actually the counterpart to The First Light by looks of it with Morgana being one of its servants. I suppose a different variation of the Dark Star Champions in a way but still, serving the same thing, it being The Dark Star. Also it does seem like the next time we get Star Guardian lore it will be the new main focus, as it has both talked to Kai'sa in her visions/dreams. BUT, Syndra is also apparently really connected to the Dark Star, with it talking to her directly and seemingly her eyepatch/eye being the door to it or something along those lines. Either way whenever she does take it off she becomes a lot more powerful as she starts well, being empowered by the Dark Star and maybe even turning partly into it or a Dark Star variation, kinda happens off-screen when she fights and beats Nilah in a flashback. Overall just a lot of great setup for the future of both Dark Stars and SG's as they might try fusing the skinlines, the story likely going to be focusing on The Dark Star either being fully unleashed or the cycle of Star Guardians being broken, or both really, as breaking the Cycle is what Morgana was trying to do and The Dark Star seems to hint its servants will descend upon the SG universe. Oh also we finally found out what Outer Guardians are, basically, Regular Guardians protect their own galaxy, while Outer Guardians are responsible for protecting the universe at large from threats. And uhh as far as team Ahri and co goes, they kinda just came back after Morgana got defeated, iirc their part of the story is handled in Wild Rift but i am not 100% sure on that. And yea i mean for now her powers look good, definetely still stuff to add but also for sure nothing to remove, of course please do tell when you are done with her!

Mhm yep! The teasers are absolutely adorable, perhaps the new enchanter will use said minions to buff/heal his allies, maybe working something like Taric W where he first needs to connect them to a champion, either having them spread over 3 champions to enchant them, or maybe all 3 of them could also go on a single champion for stronger effects. Huh i didnt notice he used the plural there, good catch, i do hope at they at least go for the idea i had even if a dagger sounds (and is) lame as hell imo. Mhm yep! The only worry i have about K'santi is them kinda hinting about him having a lot of damage too while also being tanky, while i do like the idea of him being able to shift between the regenerative armor-like weapon and a more offensive one, i dont want them to go too far down the damage line as i firmly believe tanks should not have access to good single target damage. Overall i like Draven's the most cause well, chainsaws, Urgot is a close 2nd tho while Renata and Annie just look good.
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They clarified in the responses that the medals would have diminishing returns eventually, so you won't have to be micromanaging the whole time, which is appreciated. It'd also make it easier for volunteer forces to end up becoming specialized/veteran units to form the core of your army. But, yes, the division commander and cohesion changes are much appreciated with the former providing some nice additional story opportunities for a campaign.

Oh, that's a little disappointing. I'm surprised there isn't a game that does cover the fullness of the Naruto story as they've done with Dragon Ball. Oh, Primal Rage was awesome! I dumped so many quarters into the machine at the roller rink growing up, it's not even funny! I do wish more fighters were like it, focusing on non-humanoid characters, as I think there's more opportunity for interesting move sets there.

I think part of that problem is is that when they make the tiers, they're not exactly taking when the vehicle was designed/entered service. Iirc the IS1 didn't enter service until 1943 and was of course a more advanced design than the Tiger. That being said, the Tiger was more than capable of knocking an IS out before the latter entered into its effective combat range, which is another thing games have trouble showing. The Tiger was definitely a great design for when it was made and filled the tank killer role quite well... it just was never going to be a war winning tank like the Germans wanted it to be and neither was the Panther. They needed to invest more into developing the Panzer III and IV designs which was what the concept III/IV was attempting to do. Oh, yes, the Regia Aeronautica had some simply fantastic aircraft, like the Macchia C.200 line. Those fighter aircraft outperformed pretty much all of their peers, including things like the BF109 and Spitfire. Italy needed to invest more into the best parts of their industry instead of trying to do everything at once and then developing their doctrines to match it.

A more impactful passive definitely would've been a better change than the whole thing they did to him. I haven't played the update, but he just looks generally less effective and fun.

Ugh, as much as I like double crosses, they can get super annoying when done improperly like this sounds like has been. It's cool to see that kind of team up required to beat Morgana, although the Dark Star revelations do kind of link in with my old theory that the Event Horizon and SG universes are connected. I hope they end up simply having the two universes come into conflict, maybe even establishing that the EH universe is something of the "original" universe that the others spin off from due to the nature of the more abstract entities as well as it simply being the oldest (they view beings like ASol as antiques). That being said, it's nice to get all of this clarification and I hope they make all of these revelations pay off in the future. I'm going to read back through her stories and rewatch her trailer to see if there's anything else I missed.

I do like the idea of the three being able to be hooked up to multiple characters to split the effects between them. I do hope they develop him as something of a mixture between Bard and Taric. I think I might've been the only one that noticed the plural, as Necrit didn't seem to take notice of that either. I kind of hope that they go with the sword pupper he proposed. Another idea I agree with is maybe making the whole damage boost mode just K'Santi's ult or a normal ability that only lasts a short while to make him really have to pick his moments to commit to a fight. Cause, yeah, a tanky hyper carry is not something the game needs unless there are some huge drawbacks associated with it.
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mhm yea its just nice story wise especially for the playstyles i like having as i usually really like having a couple extremely strong divisions (armored or not) supported by infantry, or i just like playing the volunteer gameplay sooo yea a win win for me.

Hmmm well, Naruto Storm as a series covers the entirety, Storm 1 covers first half, Storm 2 covers early shippuden, and storm 3 and 4 cover the rest of shippuden + some Boruto stuff but yea no single game covers the entire thing. Dragon Ball games are great tho, both like Xenoverse and some of the Budokai games quite a bit. And yea at the very least it would be nice to get more monstrous fighters/characters in any games, they are usually pretty good fun (or sometimes extremely annoying but lets ignore that...)

Yea it was a great tank but, they gave it too high expectations and thats just about it really. Hmmmmmm i see i see, yea guess Italians really did have some great planes, i guess i could look a bit more into it the next time i feel like researching some more WW2 stuff.

Yea cause even if we go about the in-story-time, it was only a couple weeks for her to change sides as many times but, ohhhh well, its fine i guess. Mhm yea Morgana is pretty strong, defeated everyone but Nilah in a single attack more or less but uhh yea about them being connected. I dont think they are the same universe purely because, Nilah had no idea what Syndra was when she removed the eyepatch, sooo as Nilah is both an Outer Guardian and one of the first ones (7th generation), if anyone would know about the Dark Stars it would be her, although Zoe seems to be fully aware of it as she knows what happens when Syndra removes the eyepatch. But it could just be that she knows about it due to being on the same team, or maybe the first Star Guardian team being made to stop some of the Dark Stars in the past, and then they just never came back directly ever since. Hmmmm, wouldnt Asol being an "Antique" imply he is older? But at the same time someone they see as an outdated product of sorts? Other than that started reading the side-stories, Taliyah, Rell and Sona are pretty much all fully just slice of life stuff, some of them pretty funny tbf. But Nilah's ones do give us some more info, apparently Ashlesh was a corrupted star guardian similarly to how Fiddle is which i do guess gives more merit for more Demons getting Star Nemesis skins in the future, Ashlesh was also seemingly extremely strong as he was a "threat to the entire cosmos" so Nilah shouold likely be even stronger than 40-50k, if anything i think she should be closer to the strongest 4 (Morgana, Fiddle, Zoe, Syndra) than the other guardians. And yeap! Do tell when you are done and if there is anything to add il be sure to mentioned.

Hmmmmmmmm, i imagine they will do it as his passive but, i have no idea how to make it balanced, because if he is a tank then, he should build tank items, so the only way it could be fair for him to have a "high damage mode" is if his resistances and health from items get converted into AD/AP but like, imo it would be extremely lame for the first non-support tank to be a, half-asssasin/high damage champion.
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Honestly, just the ability to actually train up a division commander into a corps commander will be nice and I do like that now we'll be able to have more natural formation of corps commanders. Oh yeah, I love sending in volunteer divisions early on in the time line because it legit gives me something to do and to gauge the effectiveness of my formations.

Hmmmm, have they done a Xenoverse type game except for Naruto? I'd think that would be popular and getting to make your own ninja would be fun, especially with the sheer number of techniques available in that universe. Plus I like the alternate scenarios where the bad guys lose and to see what the next step is. I remember that cactus thingy from one of the MvC games being really fun to play and the giant characters for Tatsunoko vs Capcom being a lot of fun. I honestly just like being big stompy dudes.

God, I'm trying to remember the PS1 game I used to play that actually modeled the kinds of fights the Tiger was good at and it was amazing. But, yes, it's an unfortunate consequence of being released earlier than the comparable tanks of its competitors. I really do think if Italy had focused their doctrine around close support between traditional infantry formations and air support they would've done far better, especially if they focused on attaining local air superiority and not necessarily theater superiority. I do think that's what Italo Balbo wanted to do, but Italy got saddled with the Moose instead.

Hmmmm. I'd just theorize that perhaps there were a conflicting pair of Cosmic and Dark Cosmic entities that left the EH universe and moved to the SG one, although perhaps their physical bodies didn't survive the process, as DC Jhin states they can move between universes, but the gates that exist in the Odyssey universe allowed him and Rhaast to move freely between the two. And yes, I meant that the EH universe is older because they've evolved past the need for the classic celestial entities, somewhat like the New Gods in DC. Okay, yes, that definitely would elevate Nilah quite a bit, maybe even to low-mid tier 6 perhaps? And if they intend to make the demon characters into Nemesis characters, I would say we'll def see Eve, Tahm and the Darkin then (although maybe not Rhaast).

If it is his passive, maybe it could only activate when he gets low on health? Like 25% or less or something? But then that would also somewhat take control out of the player's hands, which I don't like. But, yeah, there cannot be a tank assassin, even if it is a mode change. That'd be ridiculous to balance.
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Yea uh, spending 5+ Political Power to roll a completely random guy just out of neccesity was, kinda pretty whatever to say the least so yea much prefer the new one. Yep yep exactly! I adore sending and trying absolutely crazy formations as volunteers, sometimes even just do full campaigns testing that out, mostly pick Japan when i do because they have enough industry to make experimental divisions, and they also wont be forced into a war early, but yea thats just me at least...

Hmmm, not that i know off no, the closest there is to a complete story for Naruto was a mobile game before it got shut down but, story mode was terrible there. And yes i do fully agree with that, id love to have a game like that both cause i think it would be cool but also because Naruto is one of my favourite series overall, kinda grew up watching/playing it. Well as do i! A very big Cho'gath enjoyer here, and all around i think my most played champions are just large monstrous ones. (Ornn, Cho, Nasus, Malphite and Sion in that order for this year after checking)

Oh yea for sure, they would've done a lot better if they just focused on that, a lot of Italy's failures were due to bad circumstances and choices really, its not like they were quite literally firing spaghetti and meatballs at enemies for the entire war.

Hmmmm possibly yea? Maybe thats where Morgana came in as the Cosmic/Dark Cosmic champions couldnt enter the universe themselves due to their physical bodies not surviving, so The Dark Star had recruit Morgana in a way. And yea yea, i guess it would add up then with Odyssey concluded. Oh damn! I didnt even think about it from that angle yea, real smart alright, i guess it could just very well be the oldest universe in league then. Hmmm yea id say somewhere along tier 6, Nilah did also apparently fight a SG (likely Syndra by implication) whose "powers had capabilities above the First Star" by her own words but at same time she didnt really say if she won or lost, and at last, Nilah and new Star Guardians did need to be empowered by the First Star to beat Morgana so it wouldnt make sense if she was stronger than the First Star, it is good supporting info to put her at tier 6 though. Imo for sure Eve, Tahm and Aatrox, Rhaast id say not though because Odyssey/Dark Star Rhaast is already amazing as hell, and i would like them to connect the universes. (Plus star guardian Kayn would be weird as hell to see)

I dont know tbf, i guess its best to just wait for more info on him, but at least, he himself seems interesting, even if the gameplay does seem to be potentially bad.
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Yes, this is ultimately just a more intuitive system on top of being just plain easier to work with. That is a lot of fun to do and I think whenever they (hopefully) do a tree for Brazil and Argentina, they make sending volunteers a large part of their play style.

Well that's a huge missed opportunity. Really feel like it would mesh well with the story of Boruto I know (which is just the movie and the first few chapters) and could allow for some fun roleplaying. I mean, Naruto just has a lot more variety available to it than something like Dragon Ball does purely because of how the techniques function. Yes, I love Sion and Cho alongside Mao. Just feels good to be a big boi.

Yeah, um, Italy was pretty much screwed form the onset due to Mussolini thinking just having a million men in his army made him invincible. Kinda have to have the material to back that up and they just plain didn't. Having 500,000 fully equipped men is worth more than having 1,000,000 half equipped men.

I think that would make the most sense as well and why the Dark and First stars don't act on their own because they can't. It also seems to me the Dark star tries to focus its power into only a few at a time while First prefers to have a large team. I'll keep that all in mind when I do get Guardian Nilah uploaded. Yes, I'd say keep Rhaast/Kayn out and maybe Varus too (although he could work). Honestly, a Nemesis Mao could be a neat idea too.

I am definitely interested... I'm just apprehensive is all.

I think Nilah's done. Let me know what you think! I tried to be conservative on my estimates.
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Oh yea especially Brazil since they were, more present in the war than Argentina at least, although i imagine Brazil would definetely have a path that also tries to unite South America, probably communist path i imagine but at same time, Mexico kinda already does that so maybe they wouldnt do it in the end just to not repeat things hmm...

Tbh i do agree and, as much as i dislike Boruto i actually think the early parts of it (those you mentioned plus a bit further) are actually good, i am 99% sure Storm 5 is being developed as we speak and considering after DLCs even Storm 4 has some very minor Boruto content, it could possibly be the "Naruto Full Story" game we mentoined. Yea uh which is real suprising cause, Dragon Ball as a series is much more simple in terms of its combat but, all of its fighters are, quite a bit more varied in a way? To be more exact in Xenoverse as an example characters feel more unique than in Storm, because i feel Storm tries too hard to focus on particular playstyles, ofc there are exceptions to that but, so i feel at least.

Mussolini was a pretty big part of what made Italy what it was yea, his ambitions to make Italy great made it the main target of ww2 jokes for probably ever tbf. With different leadership they would have undoubtedly done a lot better.

Yea uh First Star has far far more "followers", probably numbering in at least a hundred if not more, considering Nilah being a 7th generation is considered incredibly old and if every generation is just 4 members thats still far more than the ammount of Dark star champions, even if we count Morgana and Fiddle into them. Hmmm personally id keep Varus out too, idk i just think he would either make an amazing skin or an absolutely terrible one, kinda a lot depending on how they do his bow. Maokai could make a pretty good Nemesis, just out of joke i wish someone would make his saplings look like very small Fiddles, if we took the skin more seriously then i would have his saplings be the gems of the Star Guardians he has killed/corrupted in the past, with them transforming into beings similar to Nemesis Fiddle upon being activated (of course plenty different, but same style, maybe even have more than one model for them if its a legendary skin). Would also be a cool connection to Morgana since she does a similar thing by keeping them around.

Nilah looks great! Id only add low level cloaking since its a side of her using W and maybe low or mid level immortality negation since she has apparently killed demons, but im not 100% sure on that one so fully your call. I do think she could easily go higher later on in the lore since she is definetely propped up by Riot a lot but for now i think this is a very safe placeholder, she will likely be pretty important in this/next season considering they clearly want to explore Camavor and the Eastern continent a lot.

Also also uh, really unexpected news but, according to my "usual leaks guy" (A friend who is really good at finding them) Kayn (and Rhaast) will be coming to LoR. Even saw his level 1 art, dont like it too much but his promotional art is pretty good. Either way pretty excited since we might also get other Darkin added into the game too. Which does make sense since Riot would need to get the Darkin VA's grouped up for the new Darkin champion and interactions with him/her.
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I would say the volunteer route would be the best way to represent their historical paths and would be a gameplay way to show Argentina trying to get in good with the Nazis to grab some scientists. Honestly, I feel like that would be the goal of all of the communist SA powers. I do wish they had made a possible US communist path be the Technocratic route, as that was a real movement irl and could lead to some interesting differences in gameplay in that their goal was to create self-sufficient states. I know it was a movement almost exclusive to the US and Canada, but maybe they could just have some of the proponents move to Argentina to set that up, as it does line up with the Argentine semi-Autarky system. Idk, just a way to differentiate New World and Old World communism.

If they do go that route, I would definitely have to pick that game up. I do like Naruto well enough and it just seems tailor-made for that kind of game. Hmmm, yeah, although Dragon Ball's techniques are largely the same, I do think it does a better job of differentiating its fighters. This can also be because it has a much smaller normal cast than Naruto, which is both a boon and a hindrance for the latter in some regards. Maybe if for the game Naruto "simplified" the play styles (ie reduced it to something like aggressive, defensive and technical) they would be able to better fit in a custom avatar as well. And of course characters with very distinct moves like the moon guys could get their own exclusive play style. Idk, just spit ballin.

I mean, there have to have been hundreds by now, seeing as we know of 26 right now, which is a crazy number to think of. So right now, based on the info we have, there are 13 guardians for every 1 nemesis. Yeah, Varus already has 2 meh cosmic skins, so he can stay out. Love him, but he's a little over-saturated atm. I do like the idea of the saplings being the gems of the Guardians he's defeated, as he's never gonna have more than a few out at a time (barring urf). You could also make them the corrupted familiars too and have there be a few different shapes he can throw out. I do really like the gems though and, as you said, it would be a good connection to Morg. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm surprised we haven't gotten an Academia Mao that's the Womping Willow from HP. Ivern could work too, though.

I added both of those as they don't hugely impact her score, but they're good to note. I would say she's probably going to end up closer to Leo and Diana once we do get her story rolling as I can't see them not using her heavily in whatever they have planned for the Eastern Continent. Maybe she'll even team up with Viego to fight Bel'Veth or some other great threat (I can only dream).

Oh, that'd be really cool. I can see those two working similar to Aphelios, but I hope they work in that he has two different level ups based on certain conditions. It'd be a good way to differentiate him and introduce a really unique mechanic. I hope we get the other two Darkin with Kayn being Ionia, Aatrox being Freljord and Varus being Noxus. They all need the sub type Darkin too. I find this highly exciting as well, although I would like to see Sylas added so we can advance Demacia's plot outside of LoL.
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Yea the communist US path is pretty, barebones normal with, basically no flavor to it really, which i mean i guess its an older focus tree but it still is essentially just 1 big civil war (which is admitedly fun) with basically nothing coming after it. Honestly that would be pretty interesting, perhaps Argentina could even get a whole new type of "subject"? Something kinda akin to a collaboration goverment but a bit more reliant on Argentina itself, maybe cause its unable to hold almost any active military of its own but would also give more industry/manpower to Argentina to almost kinda show its technically part of the same union while still being somewhat autonomous?

There was one Naruto game that tried going for the custom avatar thing but it was unfortunately kinda plagued with a lot of problems at launch so it never really did that great, it also was unfortunately more of a team-deathmatch fighting type game rather than a story driven RPG or whatnot. Mhm yea yea, a couple "basic" playstyles and then more specific stuff for the Aliens (moon guys, i prefer calling them aliens cause its funny and technically true) or Susanoo users and others with fairly unique styles.

Yep yep! Since there basically wont ever be more than a couple it would be really need if he had a few models or at least different colors for the gems/familiars, with them all turning into Nemesis like creatures when they are activated. Hmmm, i guess because the Academia skinlines is more focused on the "anime" aesthethic, which is a shame cause, both Mao and Ivern could work, hell id even take Ivern just being the gardener for the school or whatnot. (Or an even better original i had, Janitornn, Ornn thats a janitor, yes, perfectly grungy all the time while also having to fix everything that gets wrecked)

I imagine she will likely be around their level or possibly even higher, would make sense with her drawing on powers from Ashlesh and all that. Her teaming up with Viego would be twist of a hell but, i can see her teaming up with him to defeat the "greater evil", have no idea if Viego would ever do that considering he only wants Isolde, although i do wonder if he would change after everything that went on in the Ruination? Still even if not with him i can definetely see her teaming up with anyone else who is bound to fight against Bel'veth and the void... whenever the void event comes that is... (I heard its getting, postponed due to SG and due to Spirit Blossoms which is apparently going to be the Worlds Event)

Kinda like that, you can see it here, i will be honest i kinda dont really get the system too much, i dont reeeally like Kayn's art that much, but Rhaast looks cool, nice to see he apparently has a Baccai follower too. About Kayn being Ionia, looks like he is Runeterra which imo is, pretty ass, he should either be Ionia or Noxus, i feel like Riot is adding too many "Runeterra" champions already, so i would really prefer if it was reserved for champions that actually dont fit into any region (Any demon as example). Varus should be Ionia tho and Aatrox could be freljord, seemingly no Darkin sub type which is a bit of a shame. Oh i wish alright, Demacia has been, waiting for a while to get an upgrade when things havent really calmed down that much.
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Yeah, the whole US tree really needs a huge revamp. It's just kind of lame now compared to any of the more recent trees (Germany needs it too). Huh, that could be interesting and add a nice bit of uniquess to the path at the very least. They would definitely need to give some manpower or Argentina's gonna run out of troops real real fast. Oh, we got a dev diary on the Peace Confrence update. Nothing too exciting, but some much needed updates.

Well, they're definitely missing out on a golden opportunity because there is just so much they could explore with the Ninja world through a custom avatar and has proven successful with Xenoverse. Hell, even if they wanted to go with something like DB Fusions, that'd be pretty cool and work in well with Naruto's higher focus on team fights. But, yes, I'd imagine all of the people that have very specific techniques like the aliens and susanoo users as well as characters like sage mode Jiraiya and the like.

I mean, I think even if they just had like 3 basic body plans and the 6 primary/secondary colors, that'd be 18 possible combinations. But, yes, I absolutely adore the idea. And, um, Janitornn needs to happen. Doesn't even need to be connected to a skin line. It's a golden pun and must be executed on. Now I also want a Susan Nasus, which is just Nasus in a school girl outfit and a slightly pitched up voice.

Yeah, I feel like fully possessing the power of a demon would put you on par with a normal aspect, but not on an aspect that fully fused with their celestial like Zoe. If they go with the Void angle, perhaps Nilah or someone else could simply point out that if Bel wins, there will be no way to resurrect Isolde. He'd still have a selfish reason to help then, but it'd be so cool to see two major antagonists duke it out. I'd also assume Nilah and whoever else would have a plan up their sleeves to put Viego down once the threat is dealt with (maybe let Naga have him?).

Yeah, base art is meh, but holy freakin crap is the Rhaasy art amazing! And, uh, yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to make him a Runeterra champ. Based on the gameplay I'm seeing, you're gonna be playing him in mostly Ionia decks anyways. But, yeah, Runeterra should really only be for the Demons and very specific champs that simply don't have a true home like Bard. I was only thinking Varus being Noxus because of the synergy he has with their blood magic users and how that's where he hangs out now (although him being in Ionia makes 1000% sense as well). Maybe they'll add the subtype in later? They've done that before. I really don't understand why they don't use LoR to advance the stories of each region, especially because each new update usually comes with a small event of some sort.

A large number of the guardians have been added. I am actively working on them.
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Yea yea for sure, id either give them a portion of each members manpower, or maybe, they get like, 5000 manpower monthly per member nation in the union? (South america only so people dont cheese it) Either way with that the members wouldnt be punished too hard while Argentina would still get a very steady influx of new recruits, would also make for a different kind of manpower compared to basically anyone else since the "manpower per month" function is underused as hell. Would also work from a "logic" perspective as it can be explained as just nations pledging volunteers, ofc if 5000 is too much or little it can be adjusted. And yea i mean, the new demands are nice but that really isnt much at all, still pretty good for what it is, there will be more dev diaries right?

Im just going to stay happy that Naruto is finally getting a new game after a while (Storm 5) because it has been a couple years since they got anything really major, only got some very minor mobile games which yea cant get me excited at all since i havent played any mobile games in years now.

Yea of course, i think it can be a completely solo endeavour joke skin, of course in the back of the splash art id also have Volibear messing stuff about by throwing a trash can or something just to make his brothers life even harder! With maybe Anivia looking at both of them disappointed, just a very humor focus skin really. Oh i wish, and then when Nasus ults id have him yell and return his voice to the usual manner, his "axe" can also be an umbrella or something in case they want to change it, although him carrying around his battle-axe while in that sort of outfit definetely works too purely cause it would be that mismatching.

Mhm yea one extremely easy way of getting Viego on the line would be if Bel'veth absorbed or destroyed a piece of Isolde, which i mean could happen considering we have no idea where her soul split after the ruination. (It would be a bit of a "coincidence" i guess but at same time an easy way to make it completely believable) And yea, that is something we are most definetely missing in league, i dont think we even have real rivalships between two major villains, let alone them actually fighitng each other. Hmmm, either Naga or maybe Nilah just knows some way to keep him sealed for good, after all her order could keep Ashlesh sealed for so long so they probably have their methods.

I hope they do add the sub type but according to new information, aside from Kayn there will be 4 more champions added, presumably 1 is Aatrox and the other is Varus, people are theorizing the third might be Ornn purely cause of the new "equipment" keyword, it kinda just makes sense for him to be added now if ever and, Freljord didnt get a champion in a bit no? (Although that would probably mean Aatrox isnt Freljord unfortunately). Another thing they are adding though is the 5th Darkin (Counting the dagger one as 4th), im kinda mixed on that since, it feels like a bit of a shame that they wont be released to league first, but at the same time Yone did also release in LoR and only then in league so, they will probably come eventually. Edit: Seems Master Yi is one of the other champions getting released.

Yep yep i noticed! Do tell whenever any of them are updated
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Maybe the manpower could depend on the state count? Like 1000 per state or something so that the larger parts still give more, but it's not 100% based on population. That'd also probably make an interesting play style, as they get reinforced on the first of the month and then scale back towards the end. Yes, there will be more. The last dev diary is always one with all of the achievements.

Honestly, now the skin is just working even better with the Academia line. We could get Coach Volibear and maybe Professor/Head Mistress Anivia with Udyr being a transfer student from like a martial arts school or something. And then explain the three give him pointers to get him caught up or something. I definitely think the axe staying the way it is would be the best for the comedy factor. I'd also have him wear a golden blonde wig that falls off when he transforms.

Maybe they could hint to having found where Isolde's soul is (with, say, the assistance of Gwen) and then have it be destroyed as Viego goes for it. That way it can still be a potential plot point without necessarily destroying her for good. I will say, getting to see the two clash and be relatively even (or maybe one having a slight edge) would be quite the spectacle. And then I would have Viego lose by Bel'Veth trapping him in the Void or something along those lines. Be a really cool way to establish her threat while giving Viego a really cool fight. Oh, true, Nilah's crew would definitely know how to bind him as well, assuming they weren't killed or otherwise incapacitated as she left.

Ornn would make logical sense with the equipment keyword/subtype. I would say Janna's another one I'd like to see added, as she would make a nice addition to the Piltover/Zaun area. I guess I'm okay with them introducing the 5th that way, as I think they did with Senna too, but I still think adding them to League first is the best way. Oh boy, he's my faaaaaaaaaavvvvvvooooortie... I assume he'll be a strike focused champ.

I'll be knocking out the normal guardians first and saving Zoe for last due to her level of power. *Edit* I think Ez and Janna are done. I was also kind of forced to use the corrupted version of Xayah and Rakan because I could only find the kissy face splash for their redeemed looks and that just doesn't look good as a profile image.
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And we're back to you.

Yeah, it's just too punishing and doesn't really reflect the homegrown industry Ethiopia did have for manufacturing weaponry. If anything, I'd like a new infantry equipment that's pre-ww1 vintage and is super quick to manufacture but far less effective on the battlefield. Iirc, the real Ethipian army and their irregulars used weapons from the 19th century so everyone at least had a weapon. I've never touched Turkey, but I'll definitely take that into consideration whenever I get to play again. I think they'll probably have an in-exile tree for every major and at least something for each general region, as I think one was just for assistance from an Arab nation. Honestly, it'd be funny if Hallie was in exile in Jamaica and then if he took back Ethiopia that's when he could integrate the island. I was looking into some alternatives and I think the Pan-African Congress might work better, as that's actually what several anti-colonialist meetings between African peoples was called.

Yes, Hulk Gnar just makes way too much sense! Maybe he could wear a lil lab coat and glasses when he's not giant? And the chromas for the skin could reference other gamma mutates like Rulk and A-Bomb. I think a Black Widow Kat could work too, but that might be a little too subtle of a change. I also def want a JLA skin line. Talon Batman makes way too much sense imo.

Yes, skin lines being able to have definitive end points for a story would be super nice, especially as I would like to see them explore another Mesoamerican inspired skin line that was maybe more focused on a kingdom being invaded by outside forces. And yes, it'd give some credence to PF Ezreal's talking about destroyed universes he has witnessed. I do have to mention this quickly, but when I was looking into that Ez's stats, I ran across someone insisting every Pulsefire skin was universal because of that statement. Lol.

Yeah, base needs to be his usual Polar Bear-y self. I do like the idea of seeing how different cultures within a region regard the Demi-Gods, though. Like, are there any other interpretations of say Anivia or Janna? I have always personally liked Skarner's aesthetic and I don't understand why it's even on the table to begin with.

Yeah, I really don't understand why they're waiting on it. And the type of event they tried with the Ruination just simply works better as a year long thing, that way things can be drip fed out, but still tide people over. And yes, SG absolutely needs that PvE element. Idk why they're not releasing it with the first batch of it, as it's already in the game and just needs updating. You're fine, I had forgotten about Fiddle too, even though I really like his updated look.

Yeah, I feel like Riot is trying too hard to give characters super serious skins, seeing as I always used to look forward to the new Pool Party/Hallowing/Snowdown skins because they were simply fun. I like my serious skins, but the fact my most used Vel'Koz skin was Definitely Not should tell them something. Also the squeaky sound effects for Draven's were just pure gold. Oh my gosh, corporate Taliyah is such a great idea too. Maybe her wall is just huge stacks of bills and she threw wads of cash for her Q. That'd be so great and hilarious!
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Thats a cool idea yea, maybe it would be a bit hard to implement into the tech tree for just 1 country, but they could just start with it in their irregular divisions, and get the ability to get more of it through decisions, what i mean by that, example for 20pp (political power) we can get 2500 of said equipment, BUT we also either get a debuff giving us -20% factory output or we could just lose a military factory for 2 months or so. (Exact numbers can be altered depending on the stats of said infantry equipment but you get the idea). Yea uhhh if you havent played Turkey, as a example just to have a completely average military without any debuffs you need to do 280 days of focuses (iirc) that dont really do anything else besides giving miniscule ammounts of army xp and some minor research bonuses, entire focus tree is very slow especially in some paths. Fingers crossed for that alright, will give a lot of replayability to the nation if that does end up happening. Vastly better name for it yea, especially since of what you mentioned.

Yeap not sure what he could be throwing tho, maybe just a ballpoint pen or even his glasses, then again it could also just be a notebook he carries around to note down his findings. Hmmm i think for Black Widow id maybe rather do Samira since, she already uses firearms, can be pretty flashy etc etc, Katarina could make a better Elektra though maybe, plus she doesnt really have a skin with Sai's as weapons nor does anyone else in the game iirc. Yea Talon batman would be great, perhaps Maokai could also be a decent swamp thing but for some reason, i can just see Malzahar making a good Dr Fate, feel like his model/animations wouldnt need too many changes, just not sure how his voidlings could be explained that well.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea definetely dont think i see that either, honestly im pretty sure there are only a handful of Universal/Universal+ skins in the game, nobody from the main canon gets there and only ones i can think off top of my head for skins would be Nightbringer Yasuo and Dawnbringer Riven. To say the least tho none of the pulsefires get anywhere close to that.

Hmmmm, dont think there are any for Anivia, Janna i can vaguely remember it being mentioned but im not sure, i do know that Kindred (Spirit Blossoms Kindred is how Ionians see them) and Fiddle have different interpretations depending on region tho. No idea really, i do hope they dont turn him into a real monster of some kinda, and especially not a void monster, would be far too cruel of a rework for poor ol Skar Skar.

Well its partly cause, Riot said they wont be returing a lot of the events as by their words its too hard to implement them back? But well we will see, im still skeptical of them giving us the PVE event at all but, fingers are crossed. I will probably try working on him tonight, should have some time later on.

Hmm yea they are kinda cutting down a lot on them, snowdown basically isnt a thing and Harrowing is, less meme/funny costumes more so just everyone turning into a witch, which is fine to have but i would also like some of the more joke focused skins in there again. Another thing i would 100000% add to Corporate Taliyah is her either being panicked or complaining to herself that she lowered "property value" again due to damaging the ground with her Q-Passive.
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Oh, that could work well enough. And then once you've beaten Italy and are hoping to rapidly industrialize your forces, you could send those old armaments out to the rebellions you're stoking. Oh, that's gross. I know Turkey wasn't exactly in the best of shape after WW1, but they were still the strongest power in the Middle East and still are. I understand it's probably to give them something to do while they get ready for WW2, but that's gross. I do wonder if the alignment of the nation you exile yourself in will change the trees. Like if Germany is under the Kaiser, do you get a different tree? My other problem with the African Union name is that makes it sound like one country and not a faction. Maybe I should post that name suggestion on the dev blog? Can't hurt.

A clipboard would work quite well, honestly, although the glasses would be funnier. Idk why I keep forgetting about Samira. Maybe she could be a bit of a fusion between Nick Fury and Black Widow, what with the eye patch? I do like the Elektra/Katarina idea and then we could get Daredevil Lee Sin. I definitely like Swamp Thing Mao and Dr Fate Malz is actually a pretty cool idea what with the helmet essentially possessing the person's body. And they'd just need to make his voidlings look more Egyptiany and maybe the portals they come out of look like Ankhs. Real good concept there. Nilah might work well as Wonder Woman. Or even Leona if we wanna be predictable. Superman might be kinda difficult, though. No one's really popping into my head that works great for him. (And yes I know there's Super Teemo, but he looks more like the Sentry's Scout sidekick)

I think it's implied that Cosmic Queen Ashe is universal as well as DC Jhin with the rest of the Event Horizon skins being Galaxy to Multi-Galaxy (I'd have to reread the stories again). I hadn't looked into the Chaos/Order skins either. And yeah, it is completely absurd to think any of the PF skins are universal+. It's more their actions have consequences that lead to timelines and universes collapsing and not them utilizing raw power to do so. I say that, but watch a new PF story come out and confirm Thresh is capable of wiping timelines away entirely.

I would imagine Anivia would only get more aggressive looking or something. It's mentioned in Janna's lore she was known by the Shurimans, so I would like to see what she looked like for that. Now that you mention it, the whole Spirit Blossom line confuses me. Is it a separate universe or what? Cause sometimes they reference them as if they are part of Runeterra prime. Confusing. Yeah, I like Skarner as a crystal scorpion. If they want to explore other looks for him, that sounds like a skin to me.

Sigh... I know it probably eats up server space and everything, but I like the special modes that aren't just on the Rift. Makes those events feel special and all that. Let me know when you get to the Fids!

Sigh... I just always looked forward to those skins every year. Ach vell, at least the Bee skins are funny/cute. Yeeeeeeessssss! Maybe she could have a taunt telling any Freljordian/Zaun champs that their presence is lowering the value of the Rift, lol.

I'm close to going in for my next batch. What skins/lines would you like the foothold to be created for? I know Zac for BC and I was thinking Captain Yasuo for Odyssey and FB Veigar for Arcadia, but do you have any other suggestions?
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Mhmmm, and that doesnt even remove all the debuffs, only land forces, if you want to remove those for Navy and Air too im pretty sure you got near 2 years of focuses for it, its even worse if you go for returning the Ottomans path because, you legitimately cannot become The Ottomans before 1942, so you just sit there doing nothing till then. Hmmmm, yea that is a very good question cause, at the very least Germany could change over back to the Kaiser in time, considering the first focus drops the civil war and all that, about different tree uhhh dunno but i imagine yea? Would be a shame if you just lose the ability to go to Germany if the Kaiser wins. Yea you can go ahead and try it, worst case scenario nothing happens.

Tbf i keep forgetting about Samira at times too but yea the Nick Fury + Black Widow idea would work better due to eyepatch. Eyyy glad you like it cause, i thought for a moment and i really got a feeling it could work great for Malzahar. Didnt even think about WW for Nilah but yea she uses a whip/lasso and would fit all around really, so id go with her over Leona since, expected af. But uhhh Superman... For some reason i think Mundo would work amazing as a comedic style Superman, if its a legendary skin with very over the top animations, he could start off dressed as Clark Kent only to rip the disguise off and reveal the supersuit in the ult. Would also make his "disguise" extremely bad as parts of the supersuit could be visible on his chest due to an unbuttoned shirt, part of the cape also being visible and maybe his glasses also being broken. Only problems with the skin would be, him being similar to Corporate Mundo when he isnt in ult, and that his abilities wouldn't work too well for Superman.

Hmm i see i see, yea had no idea about Cosmic Queen Ashe since knowledge on entire Event Horizon stuff is pretty low. Uhhh basically, Yasuo and Riven are the primordial beings of Chaos and Order who created the universe while everyone else is either using parts of their powers or is their descendant, thats the gyst of it however they are all weaker by a fair ammount iirc besides at most maybe Soraka being close/on their level but, need to check up on that too. Well we would both look like massive fools then, suuuurely it wont happen, suuuuurely.

Janna could maybe look like her Guardian of the Sands skin? I mean it is supposed to be a skinline where they are all protectors of Shurima of sort so, eh? Bit of a stretch maybe but, likely the closest we will get to actually knowing. Soooooo okay, Spirit Blossoms IS part of the main canon, HOWEVER, ugh how to explain this... Basically everyone is in the main canon universe however for example the Thresh spirit is not actual Thresh, it is just a spirit thats, also called Thresh... The only one who is the "same" as their canon version is Spirit Blossoms Kindred since thats just how Ionians see them. Personally though, i dont consider it canon at all because i think it makes no sense and was purely made canon to "prop up" the event and skins, arbitrary as all hell yes, but, yea.

Considering they are adding challenges and a lot of other stuff to the client, it does raise doubt about how hard it can truly be to re-use old events however i will admit, ever since they did add the challenges the client has been extremely buggy, most buggy ive ever seen it personally. I will start working slowly on him for now so, he should be done by tonight, probably, will edit in if he is.

Mhm ye sounds great, plus some funny interactions against Kled or Twitch for example, Kled cause, crazy neighbour to say the least and Twitch could be just a jab at a rat infestation being around, maybe Taliyah saying she needs to sell the property before anyone see's him.

That is probably enough for now since well, plenty of skinlines to do anyways but uhhh, maybe you can do Nightbringer Yasuo (Or anyone you want) for Chaos and Order skins since i would quite like to work on that skinline, like it quite a bit tbf. Besides that maybe at most maybe a skin you like for Blood Moon too but really i think that can wait since we are already doing so many skinlines so even just starting the Chaos and Order one will work great imo. Until we finish the current ones ofc.
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Lord, that is absolutely oppressive! I feel like, you should at least be capable of being in a faction and participating in a war by 1940. I understand if not everything is finished by then, but still. The factions off the top of my head that would be able to change alignment that quickly would probably just be Germany and Spain, but that's completely ignoring the possible use of Console Commands. It'd at least maybe add in some foibles, but it's arguable how much affect it'd have. They might listen to me, lol.

Maybe if they went to more of a Bizarro riff for him? Like, maybe Garen is a fusion of Superman and Orion and Mundo is the Bizarro clone of him made by Desaad/Luthor Singed. That way his cleaver would be something of an imitation of Garen's super sword. Then we could have Darius be Zod/Steppenwolf. If we go that angle too, Mundo's normal outfit could be a more militant patchy tuxedo. More aesthetically like this perhaps?:


Yeah, they're all supposed to be at least on par with ASol and seem to have replaced that style of Celestial in that universe. DC Jhin actually refers to ASol as a quaint relic in an interaction iirc. Ah, I see, interesting!! Reading through their entries, I am much more interested in that lore now, especially because I guess the God-Kings are a part of the line too. Thinking about placement, I'd probably say they're minimum low t4's? What would you say? I hope they don't confirm the PFs as universal beings... Don't make me redo math...

I had completely forgotten about that skin πŸ˜…, but you're probably right. Honestly, I would kind of like to see a "Primordial" skin line for all the gods/demi-gods that is how they see themselves, if that makes any sense. That is... needlessly confusing. I'm just gonna not consider them for right now. There's enough to work on without that headache.

I thought there had been some odd errors when I logged in for TFT, but I thought it was just me. Still, though, I liked those limited events nonetheless. Cool, I'll check him out when I'm off work.

Now I'm hoping instead of wads of cash that she throws eviction notices at the dirty/unwanted champs. That'd probably be difficult to program for a joke like that, though.

I think I'll grab the God-Kings for OvC, if you don't mind? That way scaling for the upper end characters isn't adjusted too much. I'll wait on Blood Moon for after we get to a more finished position with at least one of the skin lines.
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You can speedrun it with the Fascist path by 1940 buuut, you wont be able to do any of the army focuses if you do that, still though uh, yea imo the Communist and Fascist paths are playable and fun occasionally, Ottoman is probably the most boring path in the entire game tho at least for me. True yea forgot about Spain, although i imagine going there for exile might not be possible due to the rather turbulent situation. Yea i mean if they do you would technically influence HOI4 which would be awesome to say the least.

Oh my i didnt even think at all about Bizarro, that would actually work so damn well for Mundo, especially with Garen, Singed and Darius as those you also mentioned, and ye that sorta outfit would work pretty well. On other notes maybe Deadshot Jhin could also work? Just a very random thought but, it did stick for me at least.

I see i see, i did imagine most of them would be in that general ballpark, somewhat stronger or weaker depending on who in specific but, generally around that level. Yea for some reason i myself just like, Order V Chaos much more than Event Horizon, eventho they in general really arent too different, partly its probably because i really liked the event and the general time of league when the first skins came out. But uhhhh yea i think low to mid t4 sounds like a pretty safe bet for those two. We should be fine, considering the newest LoR PF skins dont seem to be going anywhere near that direction, cause having them as universal would definetely be "a bit of a suprise".

Oh yea i loved the events myself, some of my favourite parts of league. (Besides the last Project event, that one was ass imo) Edit 2: Done with Fiddle, do tell if you think i put him too high, personally i think he is even a bit lower than expected considering he is the first primordial demon but dont think there is anything that i can really add tbf.

Hmmm its probably possible since we already have skins where there are more than one model for the same ability. (Example would be the Wrestler Mundo skin as his Q changes between few objects randomly). It would likely be bugged as hell when it comes to recognizing which model to use but, it would probably be possible if they just use a proximity system of sorts.

Oh yea no absolutely feel free to take them, anyone else you want from OvC too or? Sounds like a plan cause yea we do be working on plenty of them as is.

Edit: So uh just wanted to give you a heads up that a lot of changes were reverted on the site due to an unforunate mistake by Galactus, seemingly likely everything since the time of the last Sentinels i edited in is broken. (Seemingly the exact day i edited in irelia and riven cause, every other sentinel/ruined skin is fine). But yea uhhh, any stats done since then are almost definetely broken unfortunately...
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I will admit to occasionally using a console command here or there to speed things up, but I at least limit myself to having to complete a full 70 day focus to knock out a indutrial something. Just in my mind a country can probably do more than one thing at a time and I kind've want to get to all the war fighting. I will also admit to almost never taking Communist paths and I'm not sure why. That's true that Spain's turbulent, but I guess worst case scenario Hallie could relocate to Portugal from there. I put in the suggestion, we'll see if it goes anywhere.

Deadshot Jhin could work quite well, although I think adding a little Victor Zsasz in for good measure would help explain the idiosyncrasies. I'm trying to think who would make a good Darkseid and the only ones I can think of that really have the build for it are Morde and Sion, but neither of them really feel like a good fit. If anything, Sion should be Atrocitus.

I just like the star/galaxy motiffs from Event Horizon, ngl. Oh yes, I remember that event, it was pretty good. Cool, I'll be able to work off of that scaling and I do kinda like the idea of the last bastions of civilization are the playthings of two spoiled demi-gods that don't know what they're fighting for. Yeah, the PF stuff from LoR seems to very squarely put them in t3 for the most part. It is pretty cool to see that Cait and Jhin's battle was literally ripping the city apart around them.

Looking at Fiddle and I might add low animal control because of the crows, energy absorption at mid or low for his life sucking, low or mid weapon-based powers for the scythe and maybe a low energy blast because of how the q looks. I guess it could also just be low energy manipulation for both the q and w. I know that sounds like a lot, but he really does look excellent.

The only ones that strike me at the moment are Nid and Tryndamere. Other than that, I'm more than willing to take the ones you don't want or leave the rest to you.

I saw that! I'm gonna give him a minute before I go back in and try to re-edit everything.
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Yea thats completely fine and do quite understand you, personally i dont but thats cause, idk always played a lot of Paradox Interactive games so, never minded the waiting, plus mostly play in multiplayer with a couple friends when it comes to HOI4 so ye, no console commands. Hmmmmm, i mostly go with historical paths for whatever nation i play in said campaign, if not historical i weirdly enough enjoy the non-aligned campaigns quite a bit. Honestly fully forgot about Portugal even being an option, perhaps Portugal could offer quite a lot of help but would also ask for some colonial concessions?

Darkseid hmmmmmmmm, maybe oddly enough Volibear, both cause his animations could fit well but more importantly because his passive-lightings could be treated as the Omega-Beams, could just be incorporated as a "Galactic Volibear" skin too if he can't be made to look too similar to Darkseid.

Yeap i think the concepts for the skins are great and the executions are, just a bit off, i actually lucked out and got both the Garen and Darius skins from boxes and well, they are great but all have something thats off, biggest example is that Darius feels really clunky especially his Q and W for me, but alas as far as lore goes i really like both skins. Yep yep, Riot has done a really good job yet again in LoR, honestly hearing a skin is gonna come out in LoR is pretty exciting at least for me, the art is always more or less completely on point if nothing else.

Thanks a lot for the help! Especially wasnt sure what to do with the W cause, "Absorption" got removed as a power sooooo was kinda unsure whether to give him energy absorption or not. And yea no please do always tell whatever suggestion you have in mind, all of them have been really on point now and i have added them all in.

Yep sure sure, feel free to take those two, and uhh as far as others go i like all of them to varying degree's, no champions i really despise in there either so, unless you want to take any other i can do the rest, that work?

Yea i will probably wait just for a day more or so then i will re-edit them in cause well, only got 2 pages to fix. Another thing tho uh if anyone you edited had "Air Control" instead of "Wind Control", they might have not gotten it replaced with the other one when Air Control got removed, noticed that because, even the base Riven profile is missing either of them.
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I almost exclusively play by myself. Not a lot of my friends are interested in that style of game. I do want to emphasize I only do the focuses that are like +25 army experience or whatever. Oh, I also enjoy the Non-Aligned paths. I just find those paths the most interesting for whatever reason and also I usually hate the names for the democratic nations and how you never really get to annex anything. I could see Portugal wanting concessions like Djibouti and maybe the Suez canal (if you can grab it). Otherwise most of their interests are directed towards the west and south coasts of Africa. I could also see them wanting port rights.

Hmmm, Voli could work, but idk, it still feels a little off. Darkseid's so focused on hands off combat and it's hard to find a champ that really fits that. I do like the idea of the return to the Galactic skin line. Stargate just does not get enough love.

Honestly, my favorite thing about the God-King skins is that they both got pets. And that Garen has a laser pointer in his sword. But yes, their animations do look a little off. Maybe its all the armor they're wearing that makes it feel weird? Yes, I've been really enjoying the D&D skins they just dropped and learning that apparently Darius has been the DM this whole time. Speaking of Darius, if you get him to 3 stars on the Lab mode, you've just unlocked easy mode. Dropping any unit and them immediately getting +4/+0 and overwhelm is nuts.

I would honestly go with Energy absorption there. The way absorption was written it was about projectiles? Honestly think absorption should be broken into Essence Absorption, Matter Absorption, Energy Absorption, Power Absorption, Element Absorption and Electricity Absorption. And cool, happy to help!

Sounds perfectly good to me. I do say, I don't like how the request system got reworked. Now it takes an insane amount of upvotes to get something in. I think it would take every editor voting yes to get any single item in.

I have quite a few, lol. Honestly, I hadn't used air control in a long time because I knew wind was worth more points. I'd also seen at one point they were talking about removing it anyways. Weird that Riven would lose both, though.
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Yea yea completely understandable, the "filler" focuses that dont really bring nothing rather rae just there to fill out time can feel like an absolute slog, especially if forced to do them during the middle of the world war. Mhm yea, its just nice to return the, "antique nations" back, for example ever since the option to restore Austria-Hungary got given to Hungary i dont think ive taken any other path.Yea port right's and those sounds about right, perhaps some negative modifiers could be gives to us to signify that we've sold parts of our ports? Maybe negative dockyard output or just anything really to show it i suppose.

Yea that was the main problem at hand, any champion that fights/plays anything like Darkseid, really doesn't look the part, best example i can think of probably being Swain, since besides his ult i think everything could work really well especially his Q, but theeeeen he just really isnt cut out to be Darkseid sooo yea.

Oh yea the Lion/Wolf are absolutely adorable. I think its that plus, they tried making the skins really over the top which i do enjoy usually BUT, for the two of them its kinda hard to do that because, they have really old and "simple" kits, hard to make them that flashy when Darius W and Garen Q as examples are just empowered autoattacks. I did see them i did and yea absolutely same, its definetely a more "fun-type" skinline i appreciate seeing, fits especially well in LoR too. Ohhhhh, that does sound pretty damn strong to say the least, dont think i have enough to level 3 him but for sure level 2 for now.

I see i see, i did add it but uhh, everything on Fiddle look fine now or? Oh if only alright, i do think that as is, there is definetely not enough types of absorptions cause, Essence absorption would fit a lot better imo for Fiddle and im sure he is far from the only one, i do also just like having plenty of options to pick from since i enjoy getting into the details.

I did see the message saying it was changed but, yeeeeeeeeeeaaaa uhhhh, went to request page and checked, after seeing the bar barely fill up at all from your vote there is no doubt it takes at least 10 or so editors for just 1 request to go through, honestly considering it was already a bit on the slower side, i dont think its really possible to get anything accepted in a reasonable maner. I really hope the "new request system" comes along fast.

Basically what i think happened is that, Galactus changed anyone with "Air" into "Wind", which worked out at start for Riven, but then he had to revert the changes a month back due to everyone's powers being completely erased. Soooo since everything got reverted a month back, so did the "air to wind change," and since "air" is no longer a thing she has neither atm, i will add the Wind tommorow tho along with fixing the 2 profiles but yea.
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Oh yes, I absolutely love restoring the Habsburg empire, although it makes me wonder if Austria is ever going to get that option as well. Maybe as part of their Fascist path and allying with Italy. I would say they would probably get a -10% shipyard build rate and Portugal getting a +5% build rate increase. Probably something with PP gain for each of them as well. Maybe Ethiopia could get a Portuguese advisor as well?

Actuallu, maybe we could get Swain to work if we work in elements of other characters? Like, I can see them integrate the Tyrant Swain model that doesn't limp and maybe he summons lil demons/parademons to assist him. Could maybe mix in a bit of the Mr. Oz/Jor-El villain from Rebirth as an inspiration as well, cause he's got a staff and is a manipulator as well. Not sure what to do with the ult, though. Maybe they could pull from Darkseid's look as the Great Darkness or even the Soulfire formula.

I really wish more champion skins got pets, lol. But, yeah, their kits are so simple that it's hard to really spice them up too much, although I do think GK Garen's ult looks pretty good. Yeah, I'm happy we got some goofy skins for LoR other than the Pool Party ones, which I would like to see more of. Yeah, lvl 3 Darius is so stupid, I got through one of the 3.5 star adventures without taking any battle damage because he just scales so hard and it makes it nigh impossible for the AI to set up. One other thing I'd like to say about skins... I think it's kind've lame when you have, for example, Worldbreaker Mao and he spawns the correct saplings, but any other spells don't. Just feels kind've weird. I would also legit pay for an upgrade to the skins that made the followers that align with the champ to get a cosmetic change as well. Like Infernal Galio infernalizing the other Durand Golems. Idk, just an idea that could help with immersion. Or each card could have that as unlockable like with the prismatic stuff.

Yes, sorry, Fiddle looks great! Yeah, Idk why Essence isn't being added. I've seen it requested several times to no avail. It's just weird. I've made a case to Ezio about the power system being more diverse, but we'll see.

Yeah, I do not like the current change, as I think it would take all 12 editors to approve a single profile. Makes it seem like I don't really have much of a say. I'd kind've prefer if it was out of 6 and an editor counted for 1, mod for 2 and herald for 3. Then no one person can approve anything, but it's still not ridiculously slow.

Ah, I see, that makes sense. I am going to see if I could maybe go in and update the power descriptions because some of them straight up don't have any descriptions at all. And then I want to add other names for each power like the alias system so that if you search for, say, pyrokinesis, fire control would pop up. I also think heat generation needs to either become temperature manipulation or we need cold generation added as well.
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Hmmmm, probably not i imagine, purely cause of the entire Anschluss situation which would make it pretty hard to almost ever survive, plus now that Switzerland is gonna get a focus tree, literally everyone anywhere close to them will have a focus tree so having a DLC/Expansion for them alone would be hard to justify/sell. I would also probably add some stability debuff to signify the public is unhappy with us technically accepting defeat to the Italians. Oh that would be great, really hope the advisors would get some pretty unique effects too aside from just giving party popularity or the usual buffs.

Oh, yea didnt really cross my mind but a mixture would probably work great, and yea while not ideal those would at least work somewhat well wiith the ult. Still far from an ideal skin that would include parts of Darkseid but its probably as good as it gets.

Getting a full new champion that incorporates a pet in their gameplay would be great, last one we got with that was Kled but i am 100% certain Riot can be far more creative at implementing a more connected pet mechanic now, especially since they already tested a lot of "crazy" desings compared to what we had in the past. Damn really??? Holy i mean it is literally +4 attack and overwhelm for every unit so, i guess it should be expected but still just hearing those 3.5 star missions being that easy is kinda hard to believe. Absolutely agree there, it really is a letdown and it shooouuuldnt even be that hard to implement considering just upgrading a Champ to be prismatic will also make any cards they make prismatic. Then again, maybe it really is that hard and im just not aware, one way or another i would be willing to pay more for sure if all the cards changed as you mentioned.

Thanks a lot for checking! I see, well fingers crossed cause i would really love if things end up going in that route.

Wait really 12?? Thats far far too high, even just having it be 6 editors would still double the requirements but at least thats something that can be feasibly attained. Got any clue how much longer the current system will be around?

Yea uhhh that would be great cause i can definetely confirm ive checked some powers to see what exactly they are, only to see nothing and have to search for their purpose on google. Alias system is a great idea too yea, best of luck with both ofc. Imo, id keep heat and just add cold generation because well, prefer the details as said before.
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Yeah, it would be pretty hard to survive, but it just feels super weird for Austria to be like the only country in its whole region to lack a tree. And I mean, if Ethiopia can get one, anyone can get one that fell pretty quickly. But yes, some kind of stability debuff as the Austrians would have presumably had to give up their claim to South Tyrol, which was a huge thing for the nationalists there. The advisors giving special buffs would be pretty cool, especially if say the German one gave you bonuses to your mobile units, the French one gave you bonuses to fortification construction and maybe the British one gave you something that improved your trade capacity or the like.

I do really like the idea of Swain having become the master mind supervillain in this universe, so I am more than okay with us taking some liberties to tie him into Darkseid. Could maybe explain instead of Raum being a demon, he's instead an energy source called the Raum Effect? Cause that'show they explain Uxas becoming Darkseid at least.

Honestly, Heroes of the Storm made a really great pet champion based on someone from Warcraft (I think). I forget how exactly you controlled the bear, but your abilities essentially were commands you gave to them, such as a charge forward and the like. It was a really neat concept and I think League could do something cool with it. Maybe make the controller more of a mage instead of an ADC and have them scale off of AP and the pet scale off of AD so they kind've have to pick which side to invest in. Idk, just spit balling. Well, only the first unit you play gets the +4, but when you're reliably pumping em out and getting the Rally bonus the AI just cannot keep up at all. Honestly, I would rather buy variant art packs that went along with the skins just so my decks are coherent. Plus it'd allow us to see more of the universes depicted. Like, I would love to be able to purchase a Pulsefire pack for Piltover/Zaun so I could see what the lesser Chrono-Enforcers look like or what the Worldbreaker Aztec-inspired Trolls would look like. And plus just more LoR art is always good.

Yes, as it stands, I do not see the request board progressing very smoothly. Perhaps simply restricting the number of requests a user can make at a time could help keep the board from becoming unmanagable. Idk what the plan is, though.

I'll maybe send one of the Heralds a message in the morning that I'm going to try to get all of the powers descriptions, as I think I have the ability to do that. Honestly, the alias system would make it so easy to make clear what all the power does. Cool, that's what I thought with the generation ability.
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That is a fair point yea, yea... Granted i have managed to, beat Italy as Ethiopia in the past, a pretty short campaign since once you actually push them out fully you wont be doing anything else ever but, fun one nonetheless, either way uhhh would be weird but then again, since the main focus of Austria would be restoring the Habsburgs and Hungary already does that, doooont really see what they could do that much for them, GRANTED, at this point Hungary's tree definetely could use some updates so, i guess could be getting them both up to date just as a mini-update rather than dlc. UK could also give some air related bonuses too maybe, although the trade idea could be good if for example, you got more resources per civilian factory u use for trade, or maybe buying resources from the commonwealth members is 50% cheaper, that would be a new and unique one yea.

Yea sounds fine, plus i do also think we need a skin where Swain is a supervillain, kinda weird we dont get that many skins for him that have that in mind.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, considering it is pretty hard to itemize both AP and AD in this season that could probably work, i would still like to make it so that, in case the champ has more AP, all their damage would be AP, and in case they have more AD, all their damage would be AD. All that purely because i do not want to play agianst an mage/adc that can possibly deal mixed damage all the time. I mean hey even still, getting a +4 basically guarantees board control, really easy to snowball after that especially with a Noxus deck. Ohhh i didnt even think about that, just having the possibility to see how piltover/zaun are in the pulsefire uiverse would be great, getting more info on champions is great and all but the worldbuilding is even more interesting at least imo

Personally i dont even see what the change to the requests is trying to solve, it sure as hell aint gonna help with the request page itself and if its trying to solve bad profiles being accepted then, technically it does help but thats cause practically nothing will get accepted now. What would be more effective imo is just, adding a new role whose entire purpose is just checking the requests and flagging them as either "Good/Questionable/Bad", that way the editors, moderators or who not would have an easier way upvoting or deleting the requests as they wouldn't need to check each one manually.

Whelp, if you do then best of luck alright, would definetely make things a whole lot better in the end.
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The way I would probably do it is that the two fascist branches essentially kind of acquiesce Austria as a junior partner in the arrangement. If you were to go with the German Nationalist path, you would end up being like the Czech tree where you're essentially part of the Reich but still get to keep playing and perhaps with an option to eventually replace Hitler with your leader and gain control of the Reich (in a single player game). Then the Habsburg fascist tree sees you taking the lesser role in an alliance with Italy (or perhaps France/Britain if they're fascist and Italy somehow isn't) with maybe Robert of Austria-Este as the head. And then you'd see about annexing Bohemia and the other inland parts of the Habsburg empire while turning the rest of Germany into small puppet states. The non-aligned path could also see Otto as the ruler of Austria-Bohemia if he rules Hungary with the two being essentially separate states as they kind of were under the Dual Monarchy... Anyways, just hypothesizing how that could work. Honestly, Democratic or Communist Austria would probably be the most interesting, but idk how those would work. Yes, essentially making Ethiopia something of a light member of the Commonwealth (definitely not a de facto member) would be fun and interesting, although you would have essentially given up any goals of expansion... But at least you get to send volunteer forces everywhere.

Honestly Swain is just really lacking on skins in general. I know because he's got his transformation it's probably a little more time intensive, but that never stopped them from giving Nidalee a billion skins.

I just like champs you can build AD or AP and it switches up their play style, so that works for me. I was more intending too that it would be overall inefficient for them trying to do both, but idk how exactly to implement it. I just want a beast master, although I would not want them to have a normal animal as their familiar. Needs to be something a little more unique to Runeterra like a Minitee or something. Yeah, that +4 overwhelm just absolutely wrecks the opposition so hard, especially because you're usually only playing one unit per turn anyways and when it's your turn to attack, it's just devastating. Yeah, I just wanna see more of each universe! It'd also be a way to establish what other Praetorian units are, like maybe there's a Praetorian version of Vilemaw or something along those lines. And they'd make money, so there shouldn't be any complaints there.

Yeah, I don't see how this helps at all. Maybe if there was a field where the submitter could provide evidence of the character's existence, because I will say it's kind of annoying to try to hunt some of those down because I do check into that. And then an editor or whatever could use a vote or something to show they've verified that the character is real and not already in the database. Or, as you said, a dedicated fact checker would be great too. Then they could reach out to the submitter if they have questions, which is something I have done in the past.

Oh! I forgot to mention I did touch up Nocturne. Thoughts?
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Well even if just a "theory" from your side, it is a pretty indepth one and all paths do seem like something fun. Plus, being able to split germany into many smaller states is always fun cause HRE feels (I play even more EU4 than HOI4 soo, yeea), overall tho all 3 of your ideas sound great. Yea and id assume they would help you build up your economy, perhaps at the very least you could maybe be able to buy the Djibouti and Somaliland provinces eventually in case you help out the war effort a fair ammount.

Definetely agree there, especially as he is a very old champion too so he should have a lot more than just 6 (counting base). Even Kayn has 5 skins right now, and each of his skins basically requires them to make 3. Soooo really not sure, i guess partly its cause, he isnt too popular, he has a lot of loyal fans tho and i too like him quite a bit tbf.

Minitee would be adorable as hell but id save that probably for a skin as Minitee's probably arent much of fighters in regular lore. What monster though im not overly sure... Really curious what they would make the background look like for said Vilemaw, maybe just have him sit in the middle of a giant factory of sorts, almost fueling or building Predator Fiddle/Graves units himself or whatnot.

The proof idea is something i had on mind too and i would not mind it at all either, if anything, just having that and the "fact checker" would work great, and even just the editor situation would work. Surely much better than what we have now at least, hopefully Galactus does think of those either or at least does ask if anyone has ideas themselves, would be sure to ask if this system would be possible.

He looks really good, i would only just add demon physiology tho cause he is well a demon but besides that everything looks great!
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I do know a little something about Central European history, lol. But, yeah, it just doesn't seem fair to have Austria be the only country that has no control over their own destiny. Yes, I would assume you could eventually reclaim those two provinces in exchange for all of the assistance you gave the Allies and would probably make that version of the campaign feel like it has closure. Now we just gotta wait for more Dev Diaries, although I assume the next one will be about the Aircraft designer. *Edit* I was wrong, we instead got the rest of the Italian Focus Tree. Super happy to see you can actually go with Italo Balbo now.

Well, I guess Swain just isn't a sexy enough character to get more skins, as it does seem like that affects how many you get. But, so my idea for the super hero verse would rely on essentially Super Teemo and his version of the JSA (likely just Trist and maybe Kennen) got into an epic showdown with Superb Villain Veigar that saw all of them presumably killed. With this, non-Yordles begin to gain powers as the Celestial force gives worthy mortals powers while the Demon force gives powers to those with villainous intent throughout the United Territories of Valoran. Idk, just a rough idea, could be fun.

If a Minitee doesn't work, maybe a bull Elnuk? Just tryin for somethin really unique to Runeterra. Maybe the Praetorian Vilemaw is in and of itself a factory for more Praetorians? Or maybe it finds individuals with useful abilities in the timelines and makes a copy of them it then mass produces as Praetorian units? That would at least explain why Graves and Fiddle of all choices were picked to be Praetorians.

I feel like that might help a lot with the issue of having to check every single one like I do, but we'll see what Galactus thinks of.

Added and I can't believe I overlooked that, lol.
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Yeeea just a "little something", tbf i was always intrigued by history and really liked it but have more or less stopped looking into it in these last couple years. Well the aircraft designer will have to wait cause yea that was a long read. And ye absolutely, if anything i think the Balbo and the Grandi paths seem most interesting to me, really like the "balance of power" mechanic too, adds something special to them while also fitting. Honestly might easily be among the best focus tree's because from what i see at least, it has a lot of paths but it also doesnt drag (like UK for example), if anything its most similar to Spain but also at the same time a bit more indepth.

Lol, well true i guess. Didnt think Super Teemo could get an actual story let alone the entire skinline, really good for a starting idea though. One change i would make is that besides Trist, Teemo and Kennen the only other yordle hero could be Vex, purely cause i think she could really work great in both the skinline, and the universe could really use a yordle who doesnt trust and kinda doubts the new super powered humans, and if anything i thought Vex would be a perfect fit for that sort of a character, plus she would finally get a skin where she is good while also still being able to have a similar/same personality.

Hmmm Elnuk would work better imo, just that, there is no real way an Elnuk could be anything besides a bruiser/tank so that would kinda change around the original idea a lot, which i guess i dont really mind it would just be harder to make work. .(They could always just go for poro's!) Oh i think the factory idea is great but i would also make him the overseer of the primary planet the first Praetorians came from WHILE, Praetorian Elise could be the one finding those said individuals with special abilities, would kinda mirror their current relationship while also giving Riot the ability to change both Vilemaw and all the spider creatures in LoR into praetorian units. She also doesnt really have a robot/metalic themed skin and kinda lacks evil skins overall especially considering she is among the more evil characters already. Tbf i checked just now and she only has 5 skins? (not counting SKT team skin and Victorious) Was sure she had more.

If anything i think at least for now, they should lock the ability to add more requests cause, well we are already on 200+, in a week we will likely be in 300+ range and at least imo, its fairly harder to start something the harder it is to solve.

Hey we all have our moments, double checking always is helpful.
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Yes, I am super stoked for the Balbo run, as it will probably be my preferred path (I have a whole story I wrote a ways back about Balbo and Heydrich leading their respective nations into WW2), but I will admit the Grandi path looks super interesting as well. I also like the Communist and Democratic branches both having two options to play through. Also red uniforms for the interventionist side is super cool. But, yeah, this focus tree is probably one of the best they've put out there, real A+ stuff. Hope some of the older trees get a revamp to similar quality in the future.

Oh, yes, Vex could work great too. Maybe she's the only "survivor" of the original group and is a bit more of a sarcastic skeptic instead of pure emo, although they do end up being a similar disposition. Maybe also a bit of a mentor figure for the new community, if very begrudgingly. I'm also seeing her as kind of the og Alan Scott Green Lantern fused with his son Obsidian?

True, Elnuk might be kind of limiting in that regard... I do like the Poro idea, as they're already supposed to be an adaptive organism that gains the traits of those they hang around, so there are definitely some ideas to run with there. And, at worst, could always come up with a new creature. Ooooo, I definitely like the idea of Praetorian Herald Elise going out and finding subjects with suitable qualities for the Praetorian hordes. Super Galaxy Elise is kind've robot-y, although it's more of that retro-futurist vibe. Really surprised they haven't done more skins for her, though. A Lovecraftian Atlach-Nacha inspired skin could be cool, especially if it's an alt universe where Nagakabouros took her as a Truth-Bearer or something.

Holy freaking crap! I checked the requests last night and it was at like 100. What in the world happened?!? Really need to restrict the number of requests at a time too, as I know even if a lot get approved, the one asking for them will just put up a picture and call it a day.
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I never wrote anything of such note myself (Yet at least) but i did always like thinking about scenarios like that so having the possibility is always great and is also definetely among the best paths they could've added for Italy. i know right? I didnt expect at all that they would add extra models for the interventionists, if i am not forgetting someone that is the first time a nation has more than one model for "normal infantry" right? If i had to pick 2 major and 2 minor nations to get the updates to their focus tree's, for majors i would DEFINETELY pick Germany first, since theirs really hasnt aged that great or well, its still pretty good, but for the most important nation of ww2 they really dont have any special flavour like Italy or Soviets, and their tree is also definetely on the smaller size compared to other majors now. For other Major id probably go with Japan cause imo their communist path sucks ass, and their fascist/monarchist ones could use more focuses for sure, something with actual decisions which would impact how the nation is played (maybe tied down to their army/navy primacy stuff). For minors id pick Hungary and Romania maybe.

Yes yes! Thats exactly what i had in mind, she would be the sort of mentor for the new heroes who still doesnt like or trust them at all, but nonetheless begrudingly helps them as she knows she cant win without their help. And then over time we can just have her slowly warm up to them while still staying the same snarky sarcastic yordle. For the humans who would be heroes id likely pick, Lux and Ez since, they would fit the role pretty good as the new inexperienced heroes, only thing i dont like about that is that they already have SOOO many skins. But as far as someone fitting the bill goes, they are pretty high up there.

Yea especially with Nilah coming around adding some new creatures should be easy, after all they are kinda exploring an entire new continent essentially. Yea i mean Super Galaxy is, "robot-y" but more so in a way of her having a mech so eh. But either way yea uhh, id love Praetorian Herald Elise but the Naga-lovecraftian one would be much better, especially if it was a legendary skin because she really needs one and the concept would be pretty good on her, plus gives more stuff to Naga which is always nice.

Yeeeeeeeea, when i left yesterday it was at around 234 iirc, and now its a 345 which is just absolutely mindboggling. Safe to say in a week we could easily have 500+ if not far more. And yea uh i really do, dislike how a lot of the added profiles are left pretty empty, especially when people add entire series and leave them completely empty. I think a better solution could just be that everyone has a, limited ammount of requests per week, maybe 15 or so? That way spam requesting and leaving profiles becomes a lot less "desirable"
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I've always enjoyed looking into alternate timelines and such like Turtledove's work and a few others. Yes, Balbo absolutely had to be one of the options, as I consider him one of the iconic figures of the Italian Fascist movement. Yeah, I can't think of any other nation getting a different model just for picking a different path and I quite frankly love the idea. Some I'd like to see model swaps for is maybe if the Cavalry for Imperial Germany could have the Pickelhaube or if there was some way to make infantry units labelled as elite by the player get different uniforms. Like elite German uniforms could be black or something like that. Yes, Germany needs to be more fleshed out, as I don't really like the secondary path for Wilhelm's side where you essentially debase yourself for the British. Maybe instead he could lead a movement to reestablish the moderate monarchies of Europe and maybe get something to support the Carlists in Spain? For Japan, one thing I would change is the North vs South approach being tied to ideology. If anything, the struggle between the army should be a shared path. And maybe they could implement the balance of power system to represent this? And yeah, the Communist branch is a little too much of a meme and quite frankly impossible imo from a historical aspect. If we're willing to accept a communist Japan, there needs to be a chance for a Communist German tree, even if you need to jump through some hoops to get it, like the democratic path for Italy. And yeah, Hungary needs a lot of fleshing out and Romania's is just... dull. I'd also argue all of the Commonwealth trees need to be redone so they can follow the example of the UK. So, like if Mosley takes over Britain and you're already following the subservience branch, you can get a decision to accept that influence.

Excellent, happy we're on the same page. Yes, Lux and Ezreal make a ton of sense, but I agree in thinking other champs need a chance to shine with some new skins.
I would say Zeri, Taliyah, Lillia and Zoe would be the best candidates just from a quick glance, although I would like there to be more male characters too. Maybe Jayce and Braum? They can be youthful enough. Bard could be good too, but that's probably my bias showing.

Oh, that is super true. Just thinking basic body plans, maybe it could be canine esque? Not specifically a dog, but just with that kind of movement pattern. I initially thought feline, but that might tread on Nidalee's toes. I honestly think the Praetorian Herald idea is super solid and might make a cool follow up event for LoR, seeing as we just had the Pulsefires, although they'd need to add Fiddle and Graves into the game as well. Okay, a legendary skin of Naga empowered Elise would be really freaking rad. Love it. Maybe her little spiderlings could look like the Burhru idols? Another fun concept would be if maybe Elise got purified by Maokai, giving her a more corrupted wood look.

I would say 15 sounds perfectly reasonable and is quite a bit of work if you actually fill out the profiles. I'm okay with it when Ezio and Monster do that, as they're intending for other people to do it (like was done with Fire Force), but when it's a user doing it, I feel like they need to at the very least provide history and bio information even if they don't feel comfortable doing the stats.
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Honestly even if just special forces such as the marines, paratroopers and Mountaineers got unique models for the major nations at least that would be great, even if they didnt have individual ones but rather just all the same on. Although yea the elite stuff would be great HOWEVER, because any unit can be assigned as an Elite since it just changes their reinforcments/supply, to make it a bit harder and more rewarding maybe units that are veterans could get some extra flair, even adding some stars on the american infantry helmet would be a plenty enough change for me, ideally tho, every level of a unit (from green to veteran) could have a different model but since that would truly be a lot of work i would be completely happy with just Seasoned and Veteran units having unique ones, at least as tiny detail changes like medals or anything to signify they have gotten a fair ammount of combat experience (since its impossible to get seasoned or veteran by just drilling divisions). Okay yea i really like the idea for the commonwealth nations, would make both singleplayer and to lesser regard multiplayer better. Besides them, hmmmmmmmmmmm, dont think any nation really needs new things in their focuses however i would 100% rework Turkey but, maybe thats just my opinion.

I think those 4 AND Bard both work, imo Bard should likely be the entity that is giving powers to the new heroes, and maybe while he cant personally interact with things due to him having visions of it ending badly (or whatever other reason) he could still talk with Vex, maybe only she could understand his "bard styled mumblings" ever since the other yordle heroes got killed off. I think Jayce could work but idk about Braum purely cause, i cant see him being made to look that young, especially since his moustache is one part he must always keep in one way or another, maybe Viktor could be worked instead to give bit of a dynamic to him, and to make him look young we can just make him quite broody/edgy while also making his "suit" look very futuristic combined with some modern looking clothes. If not him then maybe Sett could serve the role alright as the more hot-blooded member of the team, not too many skins on him and definetely none of this type.

Maybe something thats a bit of a chimera of creatures, someone with vaguely canine features but perhaps also more draconic ones like wings? Really not sure just can vaguely imagine it, and if it was an adc champion then it could just roar fire flames from its mouth, or maybe even a different element depending on where in the map (river, bush, ground). Hmmmm only reason why i dont like the maokai idea that much is that, she could be a bit too similar to Zyra, since both are KINDA similar personality wise, while also both using pets in their gameplay by technicality, and if they were both plant based might be a bit too much. Still if she was wait to look more, spiritual-plant in nature then it could work i guess?

Hmmm personally id prefer if Ezio and Monster didnt do that either since, imo at least it ends up being much more tedious for everyone to have to ask for the 3 editing rights all the time but then again, its still much better than regular users doing it since it has a purpose behind it at least. And yea at least those two would suffice, and an image ofc.
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That's true enough on the Elite front. Honestly, I'd like a revamp of them so that they get a unit limit like the specialists do, although from a different pool. Barring that, though, simply making upgraded models as they go through veterancy would work, as they've already done that for terrain adaptation. In all honesty, though, I would like to see them eventually implement some kind of kit designer for the infantry element. Nothing as in depth as the tank, ship or (hopefully) aircraft designer, but just something that you could make it to where you equip your infantry with bolt action rifles and the cavalry with smgs, for example. Or it could be something like each type of infantry has a primary weapon and a secondary weapon that's meant to be like the weapon that's mixed into the squads so that you have 4 smgs for every 6 riflemen or something along those lines. Idk, that might be too micro-managey, but it could have some fun gameplay effects like units that use semi-auto/assault rifles use up supply faster than those that use bolt actions. And for countries like the PRC that focus on hit and run style fighting could get more benefit from SMGs... I'm probably putting too much though into this. I think Turkey's main issue is just a need for some streamlining, from what you've said. Maybe a few focuses here and there could be combined. I think the Czech tree could also use a bit of a revamp. The tree's really shallow atm and I think the political tree needs the most updating. I'd also like to see them having to pick between fortifications and a defensive stance versus a more aggressive stance with a focus on their armored divisions. Maybe even a decision to try to eject the Sudeten Germans out that could cause an early WW2, especially if the Czechs are fascist. Then that ideology could develop into either a pan-West Slavic fascism or a Czech elitist version.

Ooo, I like Bard essentially being the guiding hand akin to the Sorceress in He-Man, although he more goes around and picks those he thinks are worthy. And yes, Vex being his translator would be freaking hilarious, I love it. Oh, I hadn't thought of Sett, although I do rarely think of him, but he could work. Jayce and Viktor finally being on a team together would be freaking epic and needs to happen. Maybe they could be kind of the Steel and Cyborg of the team? Looking through the list, I'd say maybe Akshan could work too, even though I'm not a huge fan of him. I would say Nunu too, but he has a ton of skins...

A chimeric creature could work.. Maybe they could have some type of evolution system that alters the model and its abilities? I'm only thinking like two choices per ability, so maybe like the fire breathing could start as just a generic damaging effect, but then you could upgrade it into a fire breath with a burn or lightning breath for a brief stun? (I just like customizable champs). Oh, I totally understand there's some overlap there. I just like thinking of the what ifs for each champ, like with this one Mao freed her from Vilemaw, although I do agree a more purified/spiritual look could work very well.

I don't 100% like it either, but as an editor it's not too big of a deal, although I do agree the request for edit system is a bit on the annoying side. Yes, because if we have that info we can at least know who the character is and what all they do even if we don't get numbers.
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Hmmmm, if i were to rework them, i think i would make it so they take longer to train while also having the specialist limits, example iirc an average infantry division takes 90 days, maybe it would take the elites 150 days but they would just have a special 25% modifier to attack and defence, making a unit of seasoned "elites" as good as veteran of "normal" units. Numbers specifically could be tweaked ofc but something in this manner could work as they would be a bigger investment while also just being better than other divisions assuming said other divisions arent that much more experinced. Personally i dont mind having a game have a lot of micro-managment in it, but im sure the majority of players dont share that opinion with me. Sooo while i do really like the "kit designer" for infantry based divisions, i would be happy with just more types of infantry equipment being added in the research tab. So instead of just having "Infantry Equipment" we could have a tree for Bolt Action Rifles that can branch into two paths, one for assault rifles and the other for semi-automatic rifles. Then there can be more paths that are unlocked later one such as one for machine guns and then later on even for anti-tank weapons like the panzerfaust, granted that one much later on ofc but. As far as gameplay mechanics go yes it could be fun, bolt actions could have better supply but worse stats, machine guns could have much better stats but while being more expensive to produce and would perhaps even make the divisions move slower if said division doesnt have motorized or mechanized gear in it and well plenty more ofc. Yea uh i think that would be ideal for Turkey, even just making more focuses 35 days instead of 70 days would be an amazing improvement. Yeaaaa the Czech tree is actually so shallow i even forgot what it was for a minute, and yea i agree i think the fortifications part of the tree is fine but would definetely add the armored more attacked focused tree to it as well as you mentioned. Oh really like the whole sudetan ideas you are proping up, could even be a special mechanic for Czechoslovakia where they both want to try to eject the Sudetan Germans but need to make sure the discontent in their nation and relations with Germany dont cause an early war or even uprising.

Yep thats kinda exactly what i had in mind for him really, especially since as is in SG we dont really know anything about the First Light which is a bit of a shame imo, but Bard would more or less fulfill a similar purpose in this skinline while also now being a skin so ye. Tbf kinda same cause, i really liked Sett before but i think he is a, pretty bad design, not in a way where he is toxic for the game but rather that he is just, so barebones simple that he cant really be good without being extremely broken in a 1v1, i just feel like he was a missed opportunity as someone who was waiting for a new immobile bruiser/juggeraut for some time. Ye i think Akshan could be very good as the comic relief "idiot" member of the team, not a real idiot just someone who clumsily messes up a lot, he is kinda pretty comedic as is anyways. And hmmmmmm, not sure about Nunu for same "a lot of skins" reason but also cause technically Willump would be the one getting the powers, then again it could be played for a gag where Bard realizes he messed up and makes Vex explain and apologize in his name to the team, all while still allowing both to be on the team ofc.

I do like customizable champions too myself and uhh, yea i think that idea works, i think to make it a bit more different, perhaps the "evolutions" could start off as temporary buffs that get longer depending on your ult level, finally being able to stay permanently on at lvl16, maybe have the chimera grow through levels too (not too much but still visibly so) to signify that it is getting stronger and more adept at using its abilities?

Yea more or less, imagine its annoying from both sides cause i imagine assigning profiles does also take a bit of time but then again, dont really think there is much of a better system to be made for edit requesting, i mean technically making a new page could be an "improvement" but honestly i think its not enough of a change to justify the work it takes to create a new page. Ye basically basically, i will probably start going over some series i like and asking to edit profiles without such details, especially since by the looks of it, it will take quite a while for the next batch of league to be accepted and all that.
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Yes, obvs numbers would need to be adjusted, but I like them having an increased training time as they won't really have any of the specialist skills of the other types, but would be a potent force on the battlefield and need to be deployed correctly. I would probably break infantry weaponry into small arms and support weapons categories, with the latter containing the squad based AT equipment and machine guns. Then with machine guns you have the LMGs that offer the least fire power upgrade but with no mobility penalty, the GPMGs that offer decent fire support for a low mobility penalty and then you get the HMGs that have a ton of firepower but drastically reduce mobility. Honestly have no idea how the ideal infantry kit designer would work, but I would honestly be happy enough if you could simply choose to have a focus on rifles or smgs before eventually getting subsumed by the advent of assault rifles. Oh yes, making at least some of the focuses for Turkey 35 days would help a lot too. I would say the Czechs should have to manage the discontent of the Sudeten Germans and the Slovaks and then if that gets too high they could get revolution and maybe a way to play as Slovakia or a Sudeten Bohemia. But, yes, at minimum, I think having the discontent of the German minority inform your relations with Germany could really spice up the relations between the two. Maybe even lead into an event like in The War That Came Early where the killing of a prominent Sudeten German launched WW2 in 1938. I'd also like to see an addition to Germany's tree that would allow a Wehrmacht coup if the war starts to go south for Germany.

I do wonder if we're ever going to find out who/what the First Star is. I think it would be really cool if it was Cosmic Lux so she can be their final boss now that she's been corrupted. Maybe Super Bard could take some design queues from the Watchers or the Guardians of the Universe. Yeah, Sett feels like a character made many years before he actually came out, although I do like him being the bruiser on the team maybe akin to Raphael on the TMNT. Oh, yes, a slightly clumsy Akshan being the Green Arrow of the team is something I quite like. Maybe Nunu is Willump's emotional support human/translator. Ha! Honestly feel like we have a quite good team with or without the duo.

Yes, I'm not sure exactly how to implement it. Maybe it could work somewhat like Kayle? Idk how popular she is, though. But, yes, I would really like the Chimera growing/maturing as you level up. I love when they do that!

Yeah, it's a bit of a quagmire, although I really don't know how to improve the system. Perhaps a tab on the character's page for edit requesting that gives off a ping. That's a fair idea. There are too many empty profiles.
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Hmmmm yea i mean i dont know what the ideal system would look like either but i think your idea of splitting them into two would work well, and yea even if its just, some minor decisions in the intrigue tab that lets you temporarily customize infantry, it wuld be appreciated, although a bit disappointing for sure but still appreciated. Yea that would be nice cause, iirc as of right now, the coup and assassination attempt on Hitler are, extremely random as events, they are a bit influenced by your stability and whether you are winning the war against the czech/austrians (assuming they decline) but even then its largely just random from what ive noticed. And plus you cant really play as the coup which is another uh "detractor" from ever trying to cause the coup yourself. Maybe even if not a full tree, having an event tree where you can pick if you want to play as the coup, then if you accept that you will get extra decisions and events which will influence how things will turn out, of course with a bit of randomness in it too but, yea.

Hmmm idk about that idea purely cause, i think it would be lame for Lux to both be the First Light and also be the first SG we ever got, just rubs me a bit wrong i guess? I would also REALLY dislike if the First Light was anyone related to the cosmic champions but thats just my bias talking tbf. Mhm yea i do agree but i would still keep Nunu in, might not be too neccessary for the team but imo still are a nice addition.

Yea exactly like Kayle but i dont want the chimera to suddenly get large changes as Kayle does, rather just changes to its abilities and whatnot. Cause Kayle is, like a mediocre champion popularity wise but i will just be honest i do think she is a bit unhealthy for the game as, either you counterpick her and absolutely destroy her in lane with little problems or, she will just outscale you cause you cant do it on your champ.

I think that would be a nice one but then again, how often do moderators etc etc check particular profiles? If anything id say that system would work great for very popular characters but the less popular ones would proooobably be pretty screwed by it. And ye i agree i agree, already working on some granted, a bit slowly since dont have too much time lately.

Okaaay soo, first thing, new expansion for LoR has been revealed here and yea uh, its Kai'sa, Gwen (very suprisingly) and Evelynn as we predicted! Which is nice, personally i think everything looks fine for now but, i cant really say i understand why they picked Gwen now, considering the entire Ruination ordeal has finished a few months ago, if anything i was hoping to see more void related champions honestly.

Now secondly tho... They also revealed the SG event trailer and it actually looks like we will only be getting the spirit blossoms styled visual novel in the client and ultimate spellbook which holy i cant resist but rant my heart out and say that i think thats absolute trash, garbage, and utterly disappointing. That aside tho... they did also release splashes for the leftover SG's and add some new ones and imo, Rell is pretty good imo and Morgana is fairly good herself. Akali and Prestige Syndra tho ehhhhh, i cant say i like them, Akali looks more like she is from Anima Squad to me while Prestige Syndra legit looks more like KDA than SG, at least they are both better than Quinn imo who looks worse than Taliyah

Edit: One thing i forgot to mention tho is that we did get a seemingly pretty long SG story, havent read it yet so, no comments but im really happy to see that to say the least.
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I am so sorry I didn't get to this yesterday! Only had a few minutes to touch up some stuff before a things got out of hand and then my net was down when I got home.

Honestly, I just want the ability to determine how my infantry functions and the weapons are the best way to do that. All the designer would really need to be is maybe 4 slots with one for a primary weapon type, a support weapon type (the machine guns or maybe mortars), an anti-material weapon slot and specialist equipment, which could be like radios and the like. Nothing hugely complicated. I have personally never seen the coup happen, but I think it's something that should have its own tree and everything as a hidden option. Like, it'd be cool to be able to play out Peter Tsouras's Disaster at D-Day short story with Rommel as the semi-figure head of a military German Junta after Hitler's death. Might be cool too to have the SS taking over the Nazi parts of Germany and getting their own tree for the survival of the party. Honestly, this is where maybe Germany could get a balance of power under the nazis between the professional wehrmacht and the syncophantic nazi sector. Idk, I really like that mechanic and it needs to be used more.

Oh, no, you're absolutely right. I blame sleep depravation for that dumb idea. Honestly I think it'd be interesting if the First Star was a being from Event Horizon, but they don't need to be any more clearly defined than they already are. Some vaguery is nice. I do think Nunu adds to the team as kind of the wide eyed kid that is a bit of the mascot for the team. And plus good ol fluff ball willump.

Oh, yes, no, I intended for it to be more like the gradual changes you see as you level up with some of the pulsefire skins, for example, and not the whole Kayle evolution mechanic. I think it's a neat idea to have champions that scale very well into the late game, but I do think Kayle took that design concept a bit too far. Rather have her late game power reduced to make her less awful early game.

Oh wow, was not expecting Gwen at all. Feel like she missed her time by a fair margin, but that's neither here nor there. Love what I saw of Evelynn and happy to see she's a pansexual succubus! I am interested to see each champ's individual mechanics in the future, as I think they all have something interesting to add. Cool to see more voidlings with Kai'Sa's stuff too.

I'll have to see about playing through the visual novel when I get the chance. And yeah... ultimate spellbook can go all the way away and bring back the Twisted Treeline. Going through the skins in order... Akali - wtf is that pose?? And I agree she looks more anima squad... Morgana - Absolute perfection, both beautiful and intimidating... Quinn - I honestly kind of like her? I like the mask giving her a bit of a Tuxedo Mask vide and lil Gryphon Valor is cute... Rell - I like her companion but she just feels a little off to me. I think it might be the hair, but idk... Prestige Syndra - Agreed, this is K/DA Syndra... Taliyah - Why.

That is honestly so nice to have. I'll have to make a team for the guardians so I can add the whole history to that. Also nice to get a confirmed power level with them being "Living Supernovas."
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Oh absolutely no worries whatsoever alright, shame the wifi is bad for you, its been suprisingly good over here tbf.

Well hey considering we've gotten a designer for Navy, Tanks and now even Air im pretty sure it could be possible in the future. But yea just, those 4 spots, the better the equipment we put in the more it costs and all other effects. I did see it a few times when i played some of the allied nation and even happened to me in MP once (as both of my friends memed me and sent volunteers to Czechoslovakia). But yea i do agree uh, i think the entire wehrmacht vs SS mechanics we have RN are really cool as a concept but they can barely be called a mechanic since well, you can only get a few free divisions and Himmler as a Field Marshal, whiiiich is about it, if they turned the system to be more akin to the Japanese Navy/Army one with us having decisions and having to keep balance of it through events too id say it would work great, then if particular bonuses and debuffs are given for whenever each of the sides has a primacy we could have a pretty fun new thing to play around with as Germany.

Tbf have had plenty of far worse ideas myself whenever i didnt get enough sleep, but whelp hey hope whatever is keeping you busy gives you some rest! It would be interesting but i... i cant say id like it since i simply dont like Event Horizon : /. But yes it would be a pretty interesting "twist"...

Yea no no ofc i really like the more gradual stuff myself, hell maybe even a mechanic similar to Kayn's passive could be used? With the chimera's upgrades depending on which type of champion we hit? Naturally i would have the chimera keep the evolving through the entire games but it would also ofc take a few of its evolutions for them to be as impactful as Kayn becoming Rhaast/Shadow Assassin. Yea uh i absolutely despise both Kayle and Kassadin because they take the concept too hard, they are balanced around picking someone who absolutely destroys them early but, if you dont play such a champion or even worst are first pick you just kinda lose.

Yea i do absolutely agree with that, really did not expect Gwen, i dont mind but like, eh, her units look cool at least. Yeap yeap i really like her evolved art too, finally getting art foer her demon form (outside of ingame model) is really nice, especially cause it looks damn great at least imo. (Her level up is a bit disappointing tho imo). For now ive only seen Kai'sa' and i think her mechanics are, nothing too innovative tbf but its nice.

Whelp its here in a day and i do imagine it will stay for a while so you got time really. I most definetely second that opinion. Sooo after having another day to simmer down and "be less rustled" due to the lack of the PVE event. Morgana is pretty good imo but Quinn still like uh, i just thinke she looks like she came from Lazy Town, very random yes but... Yea i cant shake off the feeling, definetely my least liked SG Skin both from this season and overall. I do wonder what the hell they plan to do with Prestige Syndra in the lore cause, she neither looks like a SG or a Star Nemesis, and i really hope it isnt just a "costume change" cause that would be lame as hell.

Thats a pretty great idea yea. Oh really? Havent read the story yet since ugh, i do have enough time tbf but im just terrible at managing what time i have. Still thats really good and is a pretty darn good and solid placement for them. Edit: Well just finished it and yea it was a pretty fun read, just at the right time too since the event is going live in 2 hours or so, oh well either way it was pretty nice, and the website for the entire SG event thingy is also pretty cool, still disapponting that no PVE gameplay is gonna be around but, i guess i dont mind too much anymore considering the rest.
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I honestly just like customizing my stuff now that it's possible. I'm also one of those nerds that reads all of the technical manuals for proposed rifle designs and thinks, huh, maybe if the Japanese replaced the Type 99 with this they could've done better in the initial invasion of China, but I digress. I would say if they made it to where siding with the Wehrmacht would give you better overall troop capabilities, but didn't allow as massive of expansion as the SS did, it could be interesting. Maybe another fun thing with the SS focus is that you get chances to invest in the wacky super weapons Hitler was so obsessed with. I also think Hitler needs the Mussolini demands thing Italy is getting as well to help make playing as the Nazis more unique (although if there's reference to the racial policy, it should just be flavor and not a thing you actively participate in). I think that'd make a Fascist run as Germany more interesting overall too, maybe even add a trigger for a civil war if you go too far to one side or the other? Like if you 100% favor the SS, you get a Wehrmacht revolt and vice versa.

I just like things being tied together, as there seems to be some crossover between the duties of the Cosmic characters and the Guardians, but I'm fine with them not being connected as well.

Oooo, I actually really like that idea and it might help kind of inform the playstyle for that game. And yes, the evolutions can't be as impactful as Kayn's ascension, maybe something of a mid way point between that and Kha'Zix's? Yeah, Kass and Kayle need a hard makeover in their scaling if not their game play. Only reason I even kind of like Kayle is she used to make a fun support, but not so much any more. And Kass is just straight up useless in that role.

Honestly, not a huge fan of Gwen's units, although they do bring a very unique aesthetic. Oh, yes, I say the evolved art for Evelynn and was absolutely blown away. Stellar job from the artist. Yeah, Kai'sa's mechanic looks a little lame to me, but damn is she going to make Viktor, Udyr and Pantheon decks happy. Also love her art. I'll be interested to see what they do with Gwen, though. Best I can figure is maybe she gives out some buffs to allies or something?

I will get to it and that is a promise (I don't have much more of Digimon s4 to get through). Oh, yeah, I can see that with Quinn. I just have a soft spot for characters with animal companions and she's one of my picks if I go ADC. Yeah, I don't know what to even think about her. Maybe she's supposed to leave the group and become a pop idol or something? Or maybe she's the Sailor Galaxia of the group? I have a feeling it'll be a combo of the pop idol and costume change thing. Oh, have you seen the LoR Star Guardian art??? It's amazing imo.

I'll request the group in the next batch I do. My current one is massive because someone requested a couple of the characters I was intending to work on and now I have to do all of them to make sure it doesn't happen again. Yes, I absolutely love how much effort has gone into this event even if they left off the game mode. I hope other universes get the same treatment in the future.
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Yea yea just some, division organization/other stats if Wehrmacht is the focus while the SS could give some extra non-core manpower along with better rebel suppression, and would also give bonuses with and against covert operations, ofc there would also be the opposite debuffs depending on which side has lesser focus. Oh yea for sure that could make them a more "viable" option, since getting the jet fighters a bit earlier or even the nuclear bombs or just the V1/V2 rockets could be pretty good, granted i think the rockets need some changes overall cause as is, they are preeetty ass. And yea for sure should have a civil war option if you go too far, even right now you can cause a civil war if you spam the SS division recruitment so, wouldnt make sense if it was removed.

Hmmm yea true i suppose.

Basically yea so, upgrades work like Kha'zix's, but you attain them in the same manner Kayn gets his orbs. True Kayle Support was a, pretty cheezy but sometimes quite effective pick back before her rework. Still very happy she did get a rework, she was starting to get extreeemely outdated.

I think its gonna be hard to explain why Gwen has "followers/units" but, yea was mostly talking from an aesthetic perspective really. Mhm, no doubt i will try making a Kai'sa/Viktor deck as soon as she is released, been waiting to use him in a proper deck for some time now, and yea i agree her art in LoR is much better than in league itself imo, will change it over here tommorow probably if i can find a proper image. Gwen uhhhhhhhhh, i honestly have no clue, the only thing i can feel is her giving elusive to her allies due to the mist but thats it really.

Hey take your time alright, for now its going pretty good, has 5 main chapters by look of it with each of them having 3 "parts", and every one of the new 8 SG's has a mini-story/dialogue with themselves similarly to Spirit Blossoms, WHICH, is one thing i will say i am a bit disappointed by. Was kinda hoping we would get it for all SG's since, the old ones were much more important than the new ones in the story but i guess not, reason why i am dissapointed is that, i much prefer the older skins but i also simply like the champions from the previous seasons (in general) more than this one, aside from Ekko, Ekko is very nice (Although his skin isnt). But oh well what i was trying to say is that, the main story chapters are pretty interesting for now while some of the champ-related stories are pretty funny, Cafe Cuties is also seemingly a part of SG as Vladimir appears in Taliyah's one. And yea thats fair i guess, Valor is quite good if nothing else at least. Hmmmmmmm, id say it wouldnt make sense if she left to become a pop idol cause it would probably be quite out of character considering she is fairly introverted in SG as well. More likely i think she might just be the evil SG both cause, it has kinda been hinted at already but even more so cause we can see her and Zoe "hanging around" in the chapter 2 cover. And yes i have, all the LoR SG art is actually absolutely brilliant, all around art has been great for this SG event in cinematics and basically anything thats not "some splash arts"

Oh, yea no worries whatsoever i hate when that happens too so please take as much time as you need to finish up digimon, thankfully no one else really seems interested in requesting league after all. Mhm for sure for sure, granted i doubt we will have more than 1 event like this per year, which alone is great enough imo.
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Those both sound like good buffs for them, although I'm not sure how to precisely balance it. So, for the Super Weapons, I would probably have it linked to an event system or something that you could unlock access to it early, but when you start researching it, it's locked in and can have events play out that can dramatically extend or shorten the development time. Or if they have the Hitler decree system, he could just cancel it for you because he doesn't like it, which is kind of what happened with nuke and assault rifle development in Germany irl. Idk, it could be super chaotic, but that's kind of what the nazis were. And yes, rockets right now are something I never go for, especially with rail guns being available from the start. Actually, it could be kind of interesting if somehow the civil war was only a localized affair if a war is happening, as if there had been a coup, any fighting would've only been in Berlin and maybe munich. That way if you're trying to start the coup, you can reallocate forces to the specific major cities. And then if the Wehrmacht wins out, maybe there would be Nazi rebels to suppress? I'm probably making this too complicated.

That evolution system sounds really good to me. Think it could be a really fun champ. I only ever really picked Kayle supp if I was either very confident in my ADC or not confident at all in their abilities. And, yeah, she really needed the update, but it wasn't as much of a masterpiece as Urgot's or Sion's was.

I mean, maybe it's her recreating Camavor as she remembers it? Best explanation I can think of, at least. Yeah, KaiVik is gonna be a nasty combo, I'm predicting that right now. I think either of Kai'sa's arts are amazing, Gwen's are great but not good for profile pics and Evelynn's I couldn't find good images of. I really hope Gwen gets a Bard-like mechanic with giving keywords in the deck as presents or something and hopefully not all elusive... That'd not be fun. Oh, we got the leader of the mageseekers too:

I'll see about getting League updated tonight so I can dive into it tomorrow, as that all sounds super cool. Cafe Cuties do work quite well aesthetically in the universe, so I won't complain. I look forward to the interactions, though! Yes, after listening to Necrit go through the story for the event so far, I'd definitely say Prestige Syndra has been corrupted by Morgana and/or Fiddle. I'm gonna have to dig through all of them and figure out which ones to use for profile picture. Was really hoping Lux would get one, but I didn't see that she did? Maybe I just missed it.

Yeah, it's gonna take a minute... Oh, yeah, I have a feeling this is going to be essentially a summer event to tide us over until they do whatever with the void, but I would love to see the Battlecast universe get this treatment, especially if we get interactions between the resistance members.
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Wraparound time.

I was watching her reveal trailer and she looked absolutely disgusting. But hearing your account makes me even more nervous about her. She's clearly going to need a huge hit from the nerf bat. Maybe if she lost some stacks of Lavender Sea when she died that could help punish early mistakes. I mean, yeah, Blitz has a ton of skins, but not as many as MF and some others. Maybe they could retire Boom Boom? But from a lore perspective, Blitz not being included is very strange. Maybe it could be that Jayce reactivates and recruits Blitz to the cause?

I think the problem is that their armies are ephemeral. One of the things I like about my Braum deck is that you can reliably pump out a 3/3 overwhelm every turn, which really helps in long games. And never think of it as a waste, you'll figure out a good build eventually. I think I'm gonna try building a Zilean/Ekko predict deck. Not sure what the win con will be, but I think it could be fun.

I think he deserves to be a champion with his heavy connections to Viego and Kalista especially. Plus his boss fight in RK is pretty good. And yeah, Hec's just kind of a standard heavy cavalry man. Having a traditional man-at-arms type would be good for the Isles. And I know you can argue Morde fits that, but he's Noxus. Yeah, I could never see Karthus without that ult and he's too legacy to really alter him any more. Maybe if he was more vocal or sounded like he was chanting while casting could help tie things together, although that could get super annoying.

Yeah, I guess the Dragon Slayer dragons are more bestial and the Dragonmancers are more eastern style enlightened dragons. Still feels a little on the odd side and like they have a pretty solid conflict built right in.

I will look forward to the update!

I was planning on doing the Pulsefire guys first because they're kind of the connective tissue of League's multiverse before moving onto Star Guardian and then Event Horizon as they're connected (iirc the Dark Guardians got empowered by Dark Star Jhin). I know you want to do Battlecast and you have my full blessing to do so. Thankfully the Iron Avengers are fairly easy to do as all the scaling is pretty similar. The only problem I'm having is Red Skull as he has the Reality Gem (well... most of it) and used it to wipe all super powers off the face of the Earth. Like Scarlet Witch did with No Mutants except there were no exceptions. So, I'm trying to figure out how to scale him...
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Hmmmmm, not sure i like that idea because in early game, she is actually fairly weak, i feel she would be too useless if she could lose them by dying, im not really sure what id change about her tbf, maybe make her R radius smaller so that each dead ally isnt an almost guaranteed hit on 2+ champs. Jayce reactivating him could be a nice turnaround for what actually happened, they could also make Viktor pretty reluctant to fight against him. (Assuming they keep the lore connection)

Yea yea that plus, there are a lot of, buff focused decks and Illaoi might just be a better version of it cause her tentacles do slap pretty hard at times, thankfully havent seen her that much overall tho. And ye the Mighty Poro spam is something we all find great. Possibly, worst case scenario i do still have the Azir's for a shurima deck, although ideally id somehow try mixing a Nasus/Renekton deck next. Oh really? I didnt get to play it myself but a friend has said its pretty fun so hey best of luck.

Uhuh Morde's only real connections to Shadow isles are that he looks like he is from there and he uses essentially the same type of magic but thats about it really. True yea, and uhhh, i think it could work but, if he ever became really popular he would definetely have the "Riven Q scream" problem, especially since i played Karthus on aram today and managed to get a 0.58s cooldown on Q.

Whelp for now ive finished Vayne, Riven and Irelia could be done tommorow very likely tho.

True true, yea you can do the pulsefires then and il get to Battlecast after you deal with most or all of Pulsefires, and ofc thanks a lot. Also would it be a problem if i can do the skins for Nasus, Viktor and Syndra in specific? They are my 3 favourites for more or less ever now so i would quite like that, oh and also you can pick a couple il always leave for you too if you want. Hmmmmmmmmmmm yea that is quite a feat to say the least, id love to give more insight but personally dont want to give too much of an opinion as i have fairly low knowledge on who was affected by the "superpower wipe" and all that, still that should very easily at least keep him above tiers 0-4 if nothing else in my opinion at least, considering Earth is rather stacked more often than not.
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Oh, hmmm, yeah, you don't want to punish her early if she's already weak then. Maybe they could rebalance her damage values and lower her ranges a little bit like you said. I will say, reading the developer diary thing about her was really interesting and had a lot of insights. I... just wish they hadn't gone the direction they did with her (just... so much slapping). It'd be a nice turnabout and, as far as I know, Battlecast is supposed to be an alternate future. And I was just thinking more Terminator logic with John Connor switching the og Terminator to a good guy. Maybe it could even lead to a reconciliation of some kind with maybe Viktor ceding the Serpent Isles to the Resistance or something along those lines. Probably too hopeful there.

I still need to play around with her, but all the decks of her I've seen have been so terrible. Might be she just needs a larger card pool like I suspect Bard does. I've only done solo Renekton or Nasus builds, but they could definitely work very well together. Actually, I think Azir could work well with each of them, as they could fit pretty well into his play style while adding some heavy hitters. I've had luck with Ekko and I didn't realize Zilean worked with predict as well (I didn't unlock him until today).

Yeah, he's just aesthetically associated and not much else. Yeah, we definitely do not want that audio nightmare. Maybe if it was just like a low guttural chant that's more of a background noise that you only really notice if you're listening for it.

Vayne looks great to me!

Oh, yeah, I have no issue with you wanting to do your favorite champs. I'll probably do the same with Ez, Lux and Bard as they're just my absolute favorites. And if there's any specific skins in a line you love, you are always welcome to it. There aren't any I can think of that have actual lore behind them that I would want to claim (like Meowkai). Yeah, I'm gonna have to ask around some, cause it's such an insane feat as it's confirmed he wiped the X-Men, Fantastic Four and even Scarlet Witch herself. If that last one hadn't been in there, I'd put him at tier 5 and be done with it.
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After playing with her even more, i really dont know what to say about her, imo she will be someone who is either, really broken or just really useless, into certain team comps she cant play at all but into others, free win for her. (And yes, never imagined the main attack of "The Empress of The Void" would be a, slap). Yea iirc its an alterate future where Viktor goes "a bit" crazy and all that. Probably a bit too hopeful but hey, it would be great nonetheless, hopefully we get a new batch of resistance/battlecast skins soon it has been a little while now.

Hmmmm, well worst case scenario i will build the hollywood deck! (its a meme deck where you take all ascended, and make your opponent watch through a minute+ of their level up animations). Oh good to hear good to hear, and tbf, i dont really know how exactly Zilean works either, maybe saw him only a few times, and never played myself.

Thanks thanks, will go for last two in a little bit now.

Yea feel free to take those 3 of course. And yea i cant think of any, specific skins besides Furyhorn Veigar (which is an absolutely amazing skin i got on discount just a few days ago), but well Furyhorn Veigar doesnt really have any lore either sooo yea, either way if either of us remembers that sounds completely fine to me. Oh Scarlet Witch too huh? Yea well that does make things a lot more complicated, but whelp saw you asked for some help in regular comments so hopefully they give you some good input.
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Sigh, so much promise and we've ended up with another problem child. I think the animation would've been more tolerable if she used more than just her fins, as she is confirmed to be able to grow and extend tentacles. Maybe they could establish what drove Viktor to go crazy was something to do with Blitz and seeing his old friend on the opposing side is what gives him a brief moment of clarity and mercy. It'd provide an end to the story as well that has potential to still be revisited. If they ever do release more skins in the line, I'd be fascinated to know what happened to the Demigods and such.

Oh lord, that sounds absolutely obnoxious. I love it. So, from my experience, he's focused on predict and landmarks. He puts time bombs into your deck that you play as landmarks and they detonate. Still trying to feel him out, but I have a good feeling. I saw someone trying to play a Jhin deck with only 4 cost cards and/or followers that were 4/4s. Absolutely hysterical and awful.

Cool beans, let me know when you finish up. I'll request our boy Tybaulk soon.

I've seen that one in TFT! So adorably evil! I really wish they had a toon/parody universe where all the joke skins are from and they all have toon force. Yeah, Scarlet Witch was confirmed which was an absolute mind blower. Iron Man also implies Hulk and Thor were affected as well.
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Yes that too, perhaps if they made her model slightly change whenever a certain stack point was reached, would at least make getting slapped look a whole lot better as we would see her actually evolve and all that. Ohhhh, yea that does sound like a good way to possibly end things, while still leaving it as a possibility, either way has riot actually ever ended the lore of an important skinline? Not that i can remember at least. Lol, would be funny if Viktor heard tales of the Freljordian demigods, so instead of doing anything with them he just nuked the entirety of Freljord.

Hmmm i see i see, well currently im just still doing my Viego deck, will try to collect a lot of resources now tho. Okay now that guy is a real comedian, if i played and noticed what he was doing, i would no doubt give him the win, because that the absolute best deck idea yet

Both of them are done i think, soooooo do take a look whenever you can. Oh also, i thought about it and, i think Ruined Karma ended up a bit too high, wanted to ask your thoughts on it before i lowered her down ofc.

As long as Draven Draven is the leader of that universe! If that could be done then it would truly be the best one yet. Hmmm i see i see, yea its probably safe to put him at tier 6 imo but again should be taken with a grain of salt as i am still far from an expert on Marvel.
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Yeah, she's supposed to be adapting and it really doesn't make sense for her to be using her main flight limbs to slap people... I think they had an ending of sorts in Season 3 of the Star Guardian line, but it's definitely an open ended one. Oh man, now I'm imagining a Mad Max style Freljord after the hexbomb went off!

If you do get it running, you need to let me know. I've been trying out Illaoi and I kind of hate her? Maybe I just need to splash in another region or something, but pure Bilgewater is not great. Yeah... I felt bad beating him, but I didn't really realize that's what he was doing until I was doing the final attack. Super funny in retrospect, though.

I think they both look good, didn't notice anything off. I looked back over RKarma and I think she looks fine. The Ruined champs do get quite a glow up, power wise.

How could he not be? He's Draven Draven! I'd imagine the title of leadership for the universe is Draven, so his full title is Draven Draven Draven. I've put in a few Pulsefires and Star Guardians for approval. I ended up putting Skull at 7 because I heard a lot of 8 and a lot of 6 from other people I talked to, so that was the nice median.
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Uhuh, i would for sure say that gameplay wise, she is my least liked champion of the year for now, which is a big suprise because she is also the one i was most excited for too. Oh Season 3? Thats the uhhh one with Zoe, Rakan, Xayah and Neeko right? Cause if so honestly have no idea as thats the one season i didnt really care about that much, not too fond of any champions besides finding Neeko somewhat funny but i also think her skin is whatever, SG Zoe and SG Rakan are pretty great tho. Mhm perhaps that would explain why we dont really have any Resistance members from there either, although i do think Sejuani riding a repurposed Battlecast robot could look pretty damn awesome, maybe could even make parts of her own body replaced by machines due to them being destroyed by the explosion and all that.

Will do but uhh, ive see people run, everything and anything with Illaoi, most success ive seen yet is comboing her with Shurima (no champions) BUT ive also seen that deck fail completely miserably too so she might just be someone that, either wins really hard or loses even harder.

Whelp then all the canon versions are more or less officially done (Besides Tybulk as it stands). Okay okay thanks a lot for checking again, just wanted to make sure.

Lol, yes his Majesty Draven Draven Draven deserves no less! Honestly in a world where Draven was the leader of Runeterra or even just Noxus, there is no doubt an entire day would be dedicated to worshipping Draven. Oh, yea okay cool cool, i guess i could start requesting some Battlecast skins too then? Yea thats sounds good then, and i mean after seeing him for someone with a reality stone and all that his rating does seem to make sense at least to me
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So sad.. Hopefully the updates to Udyr and Skarner feel better. Yes, that's the one I'm talking about. There's 3 possible endings: 1 where Zoe is defeated and both Rakan and freed, 1 where Rakan sacrifices his life to save Xayah or 1 where the Guardians capture the corrupted Guardians and seek out a means to save them. I think the latter scenario is the best one for a continuation of the story. There's also hints that Dark Star Jhin (or possibly another Dark Star) is the source of the corruption. Ooooo, I like the idea of a mecha boar or maybe something that looks like one of Bel'Veth's voidlings. Big ol mecha arm using a flail made out of BC Skarner parts could be really cool too.

Yeah, I am finding out just how frustrating she is to play. You either spawn a bunch or the deck just sputters and dies. I really think she needs a few more low cost cards with spawn 1 or something. I'll have to try a Shurima build then or maybe a Bandle City Poppy build. Hrmmmmm...

Well, I still need to do Naga and hopefully we'll get the rest of the... Sea Dogs (ugh) soon. No problem, I always second guess myself here.

It'd be super funny if they set up an Infinity War/Infinite Crisis style event with freakin Draven Draven Draven invading the other universes with his herald Brolaf. I'd honestly imagine that there'd have to at least be one day a month dedicated to such a glorious and magnanimous leader as our lord and savior Draven Draven. Yup yup, go ahead! I've been adding in-universe titles to the characters (Commander Thresh, Fugitive Ezreal, etc...) with the universe name as the version so it's easy to see who comes from where. I am fairly satisfied with how he turned out. Aleazl seems to have taken to him as well.
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Tbf i have a lot of confidence as far as Udyr goes, and gameplay wise skarner too cause, personally i think their reworks have been more or less on-point for several years now, i just am not completely confident in Skarner as a whole because i feel they will completely change around his lore. Hmmm i see i see, well thanks for the info, i need to freshen up on my SG lore only really remember the first and second seasons. Lol, could especially work if releasd with skarner rework cause well, i imagine battlecast skarner will be changed into something else too...

So kinda an all or nothing deck huh, cause whenever she does manage to, do the, huge damage tentacle attacks the game does kinda end most of the time. And yea best of luck ofc, i will say tho that overall Illaoi has to be one of my least liked LoR champ releases, overall wise as a whole really. (Gameplay and aesthethic)

Oh right right i did forget for Naga and them for a minute.

I can literally see the two of them coming out of the portal, Brolaf already wrecking stuff and Draven Draven being carried on a golden throne in the shape of Draven's face, could even see a bunch of yorldes (especially Teemo) carrying said throne. Yea i noticed especially as some of them already got accepted (I should've hurried up myself!) but jokes aside i really like that idea, for Battlecast i thought of using names like: (Creator Viktor, Prime Unit Cho'gath, Alpha Unit Skarner, Artillery unit Kog'maw etc etc) You think those could work or should i just slap in a "battlecast"? Just want to make sure first then il request some of em. All is well that ends well then i suppose.
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I mean, Udyr's base concept is strong enough it's hard to screw him up too hard. As long as he's slightly more interactive, it's a big win. Yes, I'm concerned with Skar on a lore front as well. I really like the lore as is and I hope they stick to the crystaline scorpion aspect while also not doing the whole getting captured and turned into an abomination thing they're proposed. It's such a unique aesthetic and I don't want to lose it. Yeah, the third season was kinda... meh. Felt too much like they were desperately trying to introduce a villainous team and just didn't have anything that compelling. Oh, yes, that would be a nice convergence on events as BCA Skarner is supposed to be the prototype BC afterall.

Yeah, I am not enjoying playing Illaoi. I'm gonna keep at it for a day or two more and if that doesn't work I'll go back to fiddling with my Bard or Annie decks. Have a lot more fun with them because they're pretty consistent even in defeat.

We're forgetting Rhaast too!

I absolutely love that aesthetic! And it's revealed all of the Definitely Not characters had secretly infiltrated the world and absolutely no one expected the treachery! I was not expecting them to get approved that quickly, tbh πŸ˜…. I think MoNsTeR's been getting into League some. Yes, I think that naming convention works very well and gives the universes some variety in their names. I'm going to include the official skin name under aliases so people can still search them that way.
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They did mention the "crystal scorpion" aesthethic was "overused" which is another big reason i am very apprehensive about him being the one that was picked, every other champion they had up for the poll would've seemingly still stayed true to who they were but Skar skar might legitimately get completely overhauled. I do agree on that alright but damn season 1 and 2 were really good, especially the Star Guardian PVE event, i loved every moment of that.

Sounds like a plan alright, i will just keep going between my Azir/Irelia and Viego decks to earn the wildcards/essence for the Nasus and Renekton deck, thankfully i do already have a lot of the normal cards just, no champion cards, all the shurima champions ive gotten for now have been 3 Sivir's and 2 Taliyah's (A very disturbing sight for an ascended champ enjoyer such as myself, yes)

Well shit, yea you can take him too if you want, im already having trouble with Fiddle and Kindred as is, will re-read them again tommorow or day after that cause not overly sure where to go with them.

How absolutely amazing would that be cause honestly, definetely not Vel'koz is easily among my favourite skins, just cause the concept of it is that out of the blue, same with other ones but him especially. Yea neither did i, it was literally a day or so but tbf, just hearing that its possible he or anyone really is getting into League is an amazing thing, always love hearing that especially ifs about the lore. Alright thanks thanks, and yea ofc i will keep the "version name" as "Battlecast" for all of them still, dont want it to be too confusing. But alright gonna go request some then.
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How is it overused? Aside from Taric, he's the only crystal related champ, let alone the only crustal scorpion I'm aware of in all of fiction. He's got enough skins that just turn him into ~normal~ scorpions... Oh, yeah, I loved the PvE event! That was so much fun. My LoL friends and I played that mode to death.

I went up against a Nasus Renketon deck and it just wrecked my Braum deck. Just so much pressure... My poor lil Poros didn't know what hit them! Also didn't help I didn't draw Braum, but nonetheless. I've never given Taliyah a shot, ngl. I'm just not a huge fan of landmark decks and I want to use the limited space I have for impacful units instead.

If you're sure, I'll do it. I don't want to deny you any character you like. I think Fiddle should roughly be around Nocturne's strength based on my reading of his lore, maybe a little higher. Kindred is... difficult. Like I said in the ASol Kindred fight, they're super powerful against mortals, but completely worthless against immortals.

It could be such a fun event! And yeah, when I did Vel support, Def Not was always the skin I used because it's just so dumb. I really wish they'd do more of the dumb/joke skins even if they're all based on puns like Meowkai. The League battles have actually been getting more votes of late, which I am super happy about! And I haven't seen anyone hate on them except maybe that Jack guy, but he just hates video games for some reason. I don't think it'll be too confusing for people, as they should get it's just grouping them together by universe. I'll go check em out!
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If we count all of fiction, literally the only crystal scorpion i can think off aside from Skarner is a mini-boss fight from God of War 3, where you fight a scorpion creature thats covered in well, crystal (and a couple mini crystal scorpions as grunts but shhh). Mhmm, that and the Odyssey events were likely, the most fun gamemodes ive played in league by quite a fair margin.

Not a fan of landmarks either, if anything always found them annoying cause, some of them were absolutely broken like the demacian one that gives, +1/0 and challenger on the turn a unit is summoned, used to give +1/+1 and challenger before and i absolutely could not stand it.

Oh, i was under the impression you quite liked Rhaast yourself, if you dont really then il gladly take him ofc.. Hmmm i see thanks for info it do help. About Kindred tho fully agree, especially since the new lore dropped and revealed they are far from the only "spirit of death", so im really not sure what tier to give them, i was thinking tier 2 probably since eventhough they didnt do anything really noteworthy, they are still a very old immortal spirit so it wouldnt really make sense for them to be just tier 1. But yea.

Drat! I only have arclight and battlecast, been eyeing Definetely Not Vel'koz for quite a while now cause id easily use it the most. Yea yea ive noticed too, really happy to see that and yea uh, more or less just him but thats less of a league thing, honestly im really suprised cause i imagined people wouldnt really take too nicely to league? Dunno just had a feeling of that sort i guess.
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Then you've got one up on me. I can think of maybe some crystal crabs in a Metroid game I'm remembering hazily? Oh, right! I love the Odyssey stuff as well! They did a great job with the cinematics with that one!

Yeah, they either take up space so you can blow them up or they're stupid broken. I'd almost like them to maybe take a cue from Yu-Gi-Oh and maybe have a landmark zone with 2 or 3 spaces dedicated for them. They're buildings, I'm pretty sure a rat can hang out around them.

Varus is the only Darkin I've ever particularly liked, although I do think Rhaast is cool. That's my reading of the Fiddle at least. He's kinda vague, but I get the same idea of power from him as I did Nocturne. We know he gets clowned on by Zoe, though, as all do. 2 seems fair enough to me for Kindred. They'll probably score above the demons, but I can't see them being much higher than 1.5k if even there.

I always made sure to buy skins for my mains when they came out, so i jumped on DN Vel the instant it came out. I think it helps that Arcane blew up, but also that this is pretty separated from the game and based on Lore and not gameplay. I still get a chuckle out of his complaint about Zoe's statsπŸ˜„. Yeah, I thought there would be more hate, but no. Happy I was wrong.

I think I have Tibbers/Tybaulk done. What do you think?
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Hmmm only vaguely ever played Metroid myself so cant really say, do kinda crave actually going through a game or two of it tho weirdly enough. Oh yea for sure, honestly i will just say it, i prefer the Odyssey cinematic over a lot of the new ones, example The Call, while The Call is, objectively far higher grade of animation/textures everything, it feels a bit too much imo? And i also dont like some of the design choices they took for some champs, i think Leona looks absolutely amazing but i dont like Sej and Ornn's appearances much.

Yea like the, map zones in Yugioh or whatnot, vaguely know what they were about at least back in the old yugioh days (never watched past Zexal or played any of more recent Yugioh stuff)

Quite opposite here, out of the three Darkin he is likely the one i like the least, while i like Rhaast the most, Aatrox always had good backstory imo and him fighting targon was cool but, besides that never really did much for me. Yea kinda same really, was expecting you'd rank Kindred higher tbf cause usually everyone ranks them far far far too high by my standards at least.

I kinda mostly buy skins for my champs either when, skin is too good to not get, or i wait for a discount, been pretty lucky with it too so gonna keep going for it. Oh yea for sure, Arcane kinda really boosted League's popularity as a series, which is really amazing but, i was suprised, cause while pretty good, i think it got a bit too much hype for what i expected? Cause honestly for me its more of a 7/10 or so rather than anything else.

Tibbers looks absolutely amazing, great job!. One thing i was thinking about tho, since with new lore Annie can seemingly control her magic more and has fought other kids in the Ravenbloom conservatory or at least gotten minor training should she get a minor buff to her power and experience?
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I really enjoyed the Metroid Prime series, so if you like a mix of exploration and FPS, I'd say try to check out the first game. Oh, yeah, no, the newer ones just feel more like music videos. I preferred when we got introduced to new versions of the characters and things happened. I feel the same way...

Oh boy, did you not miss anything. Things got really screwed up and convoluted. But, yeah, just a dedicated area for the land marks and maybe you could use field zones for them if you go over or something.

Oh, yeah, Aatrox is really cool. I mainly like Varus because he's an ADC I felt I could contribute to wins with even if I didn't do amazing in lane due to his ult. Also liked his comic. I can see an argument for tier 3 for Kindred, but they just really haven't done anything to make me say they're higher. Sure they're an embodiment of death, but they themselves aren't death.

I completely understand that. League was like my only hobby for a while, so I had money to dump into it. Also got lucky with sales and such quite a few times. Yeah, I have some issues with Arcane. I liked Vi and Caitlyn, but Jinx's portrayal is so... different from her usual happy go lucky self. I would agree on that rating as well. Has some room for improvement but a very solid show.

I will release the bear demon then! Yeah, I would say Annie deserves a bump. She's at least now capable of keeping up and even defeating other adolescent mages. I've started working on Pulse Cait and Thresh. I think Cait's almost done, but I need to rewatch her skin profile alongside Thresh's to see if I missed anything. Put Thresh at t5 for now because he controls at least one timeline, which I heard arguments for t4 and t6 from a couple friends, so t5 felt right-ish.
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Mhm mhm i see, thanks for the heads up of course! Yea i think one exceptions out of the new cinematics is the Unbound Thresh one, its so simple but damn it might be among my top 3 or at the absolute very least top 5 league cinematics, brilliant Thresh cinematic.

I will take your word for it, i know from the new mobile games there are, "a lot" of new mechanics and it all just seems too, complicated and combo heavy from what ive seen, oh and every card has far too much text for my taste, i most definetely am someone who prefered the old yugioh times.

Yea his comic is really really good, for the time especially cause im not sure if Riot was partnered with marvel back then too?. Yea thats probably the biggest misconception people have i feel, most think that "Death" as a concept exists cause of Kindred, but its more or less the complete opposite as Kindred exists as an agent of death more so. I would even be more up to giving them tier 3 if they were treated more so as gods of death or anything but, yeeea not really.

I used to buy a lot of league stuff back in the days before hextech crates were a thing but, im generally really patient as a person sooo, kinda just really stopped buying them since i prefer relying on the crates, helps that i have been pretty lucky for them. There are exceptions to that rule ofc as ive bought Furyhorn Veigar and some skins for my 3 favourites but i just couldnt help it! Basically exact same thoughts on arcane yea.

Gonna try changing her around a bit right now then. Both Cait and and Thresh do look good for now, dont know if you done with them but nothing id change as is. And yea i think tier 5 works completely well for him due to timeline stuff, all pulsefire's should be pretty strong anyways since they, essentially police the entire ""league multiverse".

Gonna go request some of the battlecasts again cause they got rejected, not all of them weirdly enough tho as Viktor and Velkoz are still around.

Edit: Done with Annie cause well, not much to change besides the parameters, you think i should alter it some more or does this work?
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It's a great series. Oh yeah, I absolutely loved that cinematic. That and the yordle one are probably some of my favorites.

There are just too many mechanics. And yeah, I liked it better when non-effect monsters were useful and even the cards with effects maybe did one thing. Simpler times...

I thought it did a very good job making the struggle between the three personalities feel real. I think that was a partnership with Marvel, but the Ashe and Lux ones are the only ones I can confirm are. Ugh, Marvel's partnered with Ultraman too and it's freaking terrible. Yes, Kindred is merely a representative of the concept like Kalista is for vengeance. Very powerful against mortals, but not so much against the real powerhouses. I've heard people argue they're planetary, which is absolutely ridiculous to me. Very few champs are planetary or higher in their base skins.

I do like the crates. They feel fair to me and I'm big enough into trying out new champs that a rando skin can spur me into trying something new.

I think the update puts her in a pretty fair spot (responding to update). Still plenty of time for her to grow, especially with Tibs by her side. I absolutely love her interactions with the other students in LoR btw. I finished watching through Cait's skin and interactions preview and I think I've squared everything away but one thing: She consistently talks about wiping people permanently from the timelines with her rifle, which is existence erasure... If I give it to her at event the lowest levels, it almost doubles her score. What do you think? Still need to watch Thresh's all the way through.

Weird. I upvoted em, so we'll see if it sticks this time.
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I do just hope we get more of them for the Void event, and we probably will since we got quite a few for the Ruined King event but honestly, i think some of the Ruined King cinematics were terrible, the Vayne vs Shyvana one most so cause it looked extremely clunky imo.

Ye back when a 4 star 2000 attack points monster was, quite a spooky sight on turn 1, but eh yugioh has been around for so long it more or less makes sense why things have been notched up this high.

Yea yea i know that the Ashe and Zed ones were 100% a Marvel partnership, didnt know Varus was too, which would make it my favourite out of the Marvel comics as, Ashe one is a bit slow imo while the Zed one has an absolutely terrible ending. Oh, didnt work out at all for Ultraman? Planetary? Yea that is pretty ridiculous cause i am 99% sure there are less than 10 planetary or higher League champs in base even if we are extremely lenient about it. Even worse tho ive seen plenty of people rank Kindred as the number 1 strongest champion in league, even Necrit did that in his "lore power" video. (Which i think is a pretty inaccurate video overall but a very fun watch)

Crates are likely the reason why i play a fair ammount of Zilean for example, got 3 of his skins in a single year.

Ah okay thanks thanks, gonna release her out then, first gonna add history and other bio stuff cause, some of it got revealed and others i just didnt add back in the days. Oh yea i think the interactions are easily the best part of this entire expansion really. Hmmmmmmmmm, i guess it depends if she says that from a sense of her, killing them in the past and then technically them disappearing from the timeline like that, or is it more implied that she just well erases them? Cause well if its the latter i do think she would be higher than what i expected for sure but it would also be unfair to just ignore it completely. (I will take a look at the interactions myself later on as i am a bit busy right now soooo, gonna give the further input then)

Thanks a lot ofc!
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Yes, I wanna see the Ascended actually do some stuff to fight the Void. Malphite too, id anything so we can see just how big he is. Yeah, the RK cinematics were hit or miss at best. The final one with the fight against Viego was weird, lacking all of the melee fighters.

I mean, there's evolution and refinement and then there's whatever happened in Yu-gi-oh. Like the Synchro and Xyz monsters made sense, capitalizing on the level system, but then pendulums and whatever the hell those arrow pointy things are happened and I checked out.

I never got around to reading the Zed one, but I thought the Ashe and Lux ones were alright if a little unexciting. Oh god, the Ultraman one feels like someone that had never seen the original show wrote it. Ultraman just keeps talking... and talking... and talking... when in the og he never says a word outside of the first episode. Kindred is def an enigma on the power scale, but there are clearly limits. We've seen characters like Morde and Thresh rebuff them, so they're not all powerful as some like to think. I will say, going over the lore, it might be best to leave their stats blank because it's so vague.

Oh, Zilean is such a little troll monster. But, yeah, crates got me to try nautilas and he's one of my favorite champs now.

Cool cool. They did such a great job with those interactions... except for Illaoi. My interpretation is that when she kills someone with her rifle that they get erased from the timelines. Like it's a function of the temporal powers the rifle has. I might just put it at low because she can do it, but just not at any time.

*Edit: I think Pulse Ez is finished. Rewatched his animations and interactions. Let me know if you think I missed anything.
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Honestly id quite like to see a fight between Bel'veth and Xerath too for example, could be pretty cool since eventho both are villains their goals are quite opposing to say the least although yes seeing Malphite finally do something again would be very nice. Yea i think the only 3 who were in all the cinematics, comics and "in-game novel" were Lucian, Senna and Vayne, which is suprising cause Gwen didnt exist at all in the comics for example.

Honestly you lost me at Synchro, i do think that system made sense but even by that point i was already kinda turning my head to the side as things were most definetely getting more "complicated" but yea uhhh with all the newest stuff added, i have no doubt in my mind i have no idea how to actually play Yu-gi-oh now, eventho i played it (or watched) for several years in the past.

Zed's was fun and the Kayn-Zed moments were defintely very nice but thats likely cause i like Kayn a lot, the main problem with it is that it tried slapping in a lot of "unexpected twists" and the Kusho one really made me sigh... So basically it just really doesnt feel like what its supposed to be with characters even being well, out of character? Cause damn do i hate when that happens, i much prefer something not existing at all than having it be a shitty sequel/addition. Mhm yea lets keep them empty, although im pretty sure we could work something out, even if we did i feel we would have quite a number of headaches in the future if we tried explaining the stats so, probably for the best.

Illaoi was just a miss overall but ohhhhh well, bound to happen considering how much of a streak LoR was on as far as great champ releases go. After watching the interactions myself yea that about makes sense so, just put it at low level.

Checked Ez and as far as i can tell everything seems to be in order, same with Cait (aside from adding low level erasure) and Thresh as i went to re-check them again.

Seemingly the Battlecasts got nuked again aside from Viktor, i think i will uhhh, wait a bit before requesting them again, would be a liar if i said i wasnt worried about having my request ability completely removed. Guess il just request some resistace members while also giving them general names. (Which i will change after they get accepted)
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I love villain showdowns, tbh, especially when they're archvillains. I cannot imagine the destruction they would make as they dueled. Yeah, Malphite's supposed to be one of the bastions against the void. He's destroyed a few hives based on his stories, but that's really not enough. I mean, those were the main 3, but it's weird especially for Gwen to not be involved. She's their armorsmith and the only reason they even knew about Isolde.

I did like Synchro, but yes, Yu-Gi-Oh! has just gotten too damn complex. And like, Magic has its problem cards, but very few are ever multiple paragraphs long.

Oh yeah, no, if the character starts acting weird I consider it non-canon from that point forward, especially with such an ephemeral partnership as RiotXMarvel was. We could definitely figure something out, but yeah, it's just too open to interpretation. Cause I've seen our side where Kindred is just an aspect all the way up to people claiming they're the multiversal embodiment of death and I'm just like, uhhhhhhhhhh, then why is Kindred a mecha pilot in the Super Galaxy universe? Idk, just too much of a headache.

I think she just needs some more cards to fill out her mana curve and she'll become a pretty alright "protect the castle" deck. But, yes, she's really been the only miss champ outside of Pyke imo, but that's just because I don't like Lurk as a mechanic.

I released the first two, but I needed to add Erasure to Thresh and he jumped up hard, so I removed some semi-superfluous abilities that were just side effects of his abilities. He's still reading high for me, but I'll tinker with him some more. I think Guardian Ahri is done, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion.

I think all that happened there was Ezio tried to purge the 117 entries one guy made and misclicked because Cosmic Queen Ashe got hit too. Don't take it personally and you are definitely not someone they'd strip those rights from. They're more concerned about the spammers.
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Likewise likewise, but that in itself is a bit of a shame cause we do legitimately have a TON of, really powerful villains that could threathen large parts of Runeterra but, not one of them is really doing anything aside from Viego but yea we know how that ended, still what im trying to say is that id like them to get more involved in the story, at least for someone like Mordekaiser it makes sense cause he is biding his time more or less but us not getting almost anything on what Xerath has been doing (just as a single example) is kinda really disappointing. Yea even more weirdly because, she has a part of Isolde's soul so without her its, legitimately impossible to revive Isolde, and the entire story kinda depends on that so???

Well thankfully LoR has avoided such issues for now, it just has some annoying mechanics but oh well thats bound to always happen.

Yea uhh unless i am truly trying to debate with someone on the topic, i also dont count similar stuff as canon at all, too hard to accept it. Multiversal huuuh? Thats a new one that i havent heard yet, cause im pretty sure nobody in the main universe of league is anywhere close to that even Asol and Zoe, iirc long long ago Naga was supposed to be kind of a multiversal god but that got extremely retconed.

Yes, Lurk is absolutely nasty to play against always hate seeing it, just seeing the snapjaw swarm already makes me frown, especially because well, Pyke and Rek'sai can only ever be played in the same Lurk deck. (Although i dont mind Rek'sai as much because her art is really really cool same with other xer'sai)

Hmmmm yea still a bit high cause honestly i was more so seeing something like 80-110k, still this is fine yea, and well done ofc. About Ahri though i do think she landed, quite a bit lower than i expected, i think i would add willpower (or hope) inducement and emotional power up since all Star Guardians kinda seem to get stronger through their emotions, aside from that i would also maybe increase her to tier 5 because well the SG's do draw their power from the First Star that created the universe, at least i think the stronger SG members should be 5 which i do consider Ahri to be due to her position and all that. But whelp thats just my opinion and i do think tier 4 is a very safe and more concrete ranking but ye.

Maybe maybe, still i am a bit worried about being deemed a spammer cause, if i requested Kog for example and he got deleted again, that would be the 3rd time he got deleted in the span of 2 days. Still you are probably right about what happened but i just dooont really want to risk it i guess...
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I agree, it only makes sense for Morde to be biding his time and Viego being the only one to have made a move doesn't make a lot of sense. What is Brand doing? Like even if they don't want to do a world event they could still do some kind of regional event. Maybe they could do possible alternate futures for each of the villain wins timelines like they did for Battlecast? Yeah, it was literally impossible to win without Gwen, so why did she get the snub??

The multiversal argument comes from that they're aware of Ekko's destroyed timelines, but then that would make Zilean multiversal too, which is absurd. I've also seen omniscience and omnipotence thrown around, but Kindred can't even keep Mordekaiser dead and wasn't aware of how festivals worked. Only thing I'll agree to is limited omniprescence. Naga is another conundrum. We know bare minimum she's stronger than Viego but clearly has limitations on how she can act (I think she can only act against those in the sea, otherwise she needs a vessel). I'd probably put her in the 200-300k range, but that's just a guess.

I hate playing against it and with it. I just feel like it puts me into this pure aggressive play style and that's just not my thing. And yeah, Rek'Sai has amazing art in LoR.

I tried playing around with Thresh's stats again and I couldn't get him lower than 124k, which I feel is a little high, but we'll just put that up to hax. I moved Ahri up to 5, upped her speed to 2x lightspeed (which I timed in her cinematic and that fit better than just lightspeed) and gave her what you suggested. Put her at 31k, which seems fair enough.

I'd say hold off on the ones that got eliminated for a minute. Is there any other skin line you like that you'd like to put a couple characters in or maybe you could do a Nasus skin? I know Worldbreaker has enough lore and I plan on adding them in eventually (Nasus's in-universe name is The Fourth Titan). I know Arcadia's going to be added in as well.

Dragonmancers got a HUGE lore drop in TFT! We know some of the other dragons now: Daeja the Mirage Dragon, Idas the Gold Dragon, Shi Oh Yu the Jade Dragon, and Sy'Fen the Dragon of Whispers. I don't see they're the patrons of any of the dragonmancers, but maybe they have multiple names?
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Yea nah legit it doesnt need to be a world event, literally just a short story of Xerath destroying a town that doesn't bend to his rule or Brand having another scuffle with Ryze over a world rune would be plenty. Damn, thats a really damn good idea, the only skin that i can kinda think off uses that (aside from battlecast) is Nightblade Irelia, where in essence she makes a pact with an evil spirit so she can finally push out noxus. I have no idea, even even more so cause, Gwen's only lore is legitimately just Ruination/Viego related.

Hmmm i see, yea not really something id go for at all but thanks for the info nonetheless. Yea more or less that and the guess does sound pretty fine, do think she'd land somewhere there myself.

Yep same same, after elusives its definetely my least liked deck type.

Yea it is still a bit too high but id say its an acceptable level considering all the time shenanigans which always raise the ratings quite high. Oh thanks a lot for doing the suggestions and yea she looks great now imo, great job!

Hmmmm yea i could do World Breaker Nasus BUT, only after the, Creator Viktor, Resistance profiles and Rhaast get either added or removed, since seemingly all of them have survived the snaps for now. Still yea uhhh if those fail i could also go for the Arcade skins, ofc first id like to hear if there are any you want to do or if you want to split the champs apart or whatnot, one of the better skinlines after all at least imo.

Oh? Really? Well damn i guess il definetely have to look into it myself then, which tbf works quite well as i am not too familiar with dragomancers as is anyways.
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Even if they don't show a direct confrontation between Azir and Xerath, just a clear example of their representatives working to gain control over an area would work as well. I think Nightmare Tryndamere is another example because it's supposed to be if he became the Kayn to Aatrox's Rhaast. I'd love to see Xerath's Ascended Empire or Brand's world bathed in flame... Maybe they could make that the Infernal timeline? Yeah, Gwen existed purely for the event... why not show her?

I understand there being a need for vagueness, but I wish Riot would clear it up. I think if I get Naga uploaded, I wouldn't give her stats and leave her as another "you decide" style character.

There's also some debate on whether or not he created the Praetorians, which would be another headache... Cool, I've released her.

Oh, no, take your time and do with what you have right now. I'm asinine about having my characters uploaded being in units of 5 or 10. I've put in a request for World Breaker Nautilus (The First Titan) and I'd be willing to discuss the Arcade skins. I don't care much for any of the hero characters aside from Hec and Ez, but I do absolutely love FB Veigar.

It's pretty vague at the moment, but at least we have names and abilities now for some of Ao Shin/ASol's compatriots.
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Oh yea nah at this point i dont really expect the Azir-Xerath confrontation to actually end ever, but at least it would be nice to see the two of their followers interact, at least Azir's sand soldiers confronting some of Xerath's followers but in an ideal world a fight between Renekton and Nasus happening! Oh damn really? I had no idea about that Trynda one, makes the skin a whole lot cooler now though. Ye infernal could be a timeline where Brand defeated Ryze and got his hands on the other world runes, plunging the world into chaos, he needs some love after all.

Honestly i do think thats a good idea yea, at the very least until Riot gives some more concrete info its probably for the best.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuh, yeeea i think we can sweep him under the rug then at least until we get to the Praetorians.

Lol, yea nah thats completely fair i do have some "habits" i found absolutely neccessary to be handled in a specific way myself so i do understand you. Whelp i will add the Nasus skin too then, i do quite always enjoy adding another version of him after all. I see i see, yea then you can take Hec, Ez and Veigar, i do quite like FB Veigar myself but thats obvious cause the skin is literally perfect for Veigar. Anyone else you want at all? (No the only one you cant have is Anivia in a plane, i need to do that one myself!)

Still good ye, do tell if you find anything more ofc.
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Another fight between Nasus and Renekton would be good, especially because we've seen how brutal their fight is in LoR. Maybe could lead to Renekton gaining the upper hand due to a long range attack from Xerath and then Nasus gets extricated by Azir. Would move the plot along a bit and help establish sides. Yeah, apparently the Wild Rift version of that skin makes it even more clear. Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't make it the Brand wins scenario because it's so obvious imo. Could just make him the one that assembled the world runes to summon the Ashen Lord.

Yeah, leaving Thresh as is is probably for the best. I plan to start requesting the rest of the Star Guardians once Lux gets approved. I know you wanted to do the Syndra skins, so thought I'd give you a heads up.

So, looking at Arcadia, the Arcade Hero skins are Ahri, Anivia (JLA), Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal (Von), Gnar, Hecarim (Von), Kai'Sa, MF, Quinn, Riven and Sona. I would prefer not to do Riven... I just hate her, lol. As per Battle Bosses, we have Bel'Veth, Blitz, Brand, Malzahar, Nocturne, Qiyana, FB Veigar (Von), Yas and Ziggs. Only one I don't want there is Qi because I don't like her, lol.
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Oh i really like the Xerath and Azir addition to it, would definetely make it different, another thing which i would also consider is Renekton already slightly winning before that too as maybe Nasus would be pulling his attacks, purely cause i think it would be really nice if Renekton maybe noticed that and started having doubts about what really happened 1000+ years ago (Because yes i want Nasus and Renekton to reunite and clap Xerath ofc!) Huuuh i see, yea definetely sounds like something that will be interesting to look into then. Yep yep, fully agree alright.

Thanks a lot for the heads up, i will keep an eye out for when Lux gets approved and then i will add in a request for SG Syndra that work?

Yea sure i will take Riven and Qiqi then too (And i suppose il also take Riven in any other skinline too then if you want?). As far as those i really wouldnt like doing myself are concerned, i do have to say i will happily let you have Yas and Quinn if thats fine? I just cant stand how stupid Yasuo's skin looks in my eyes at least and, i do quite dislike Quinn, she is just kinda really boring while her gameplay is extremely annoying for a top laner like myself.
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That'd make sense. Nasus doesn't want to kill his brother, but he would still do his best to fend off his frenzied bother. Then we also have the moment of Xerath "rescuing" Renekton while his guard was down. Then we could get a Return of the Jedi moment where Azir and Nasus have pushed Xerath back in a final confrontation but just need that extra push Renekton can provide by finally realizing he's been lied to all these years. That'd be such a satisfying "conclusion" to the saga and Xerath can always come back. He's energy after all.

That works for me. Are there any other members of the Star Guardians you want? Or any of the characters from the Worldbreaker, Event Horizon or Pulsefire/Praetorain lines (while I'm thinking of it)? From reading the lore for Worldbreakers, I think the Worldweavers (Karma and Maokai) and the Fourth and Eighth Titans (Nasus and Malphite) are tier 5 while everyone else is "merely" tier 4.

I can take Yas and Quinn, no problemo. That leaves us 7 Heroes and 6 Bosses left. I'll take Cait, Corki and MF if you'll take Ahri, Gnar, Kai'Sa and Sona if that works for you. Boss wise, I can take Blitz, Malz and Ziggs if you take Bel, Brand and Noc. If my math is right, there are 21 characters and I'd be doing 11 and you'd be doing 10. Does that sound good to you?
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30 rollover.

Yeah, Rey def overperformed as she never really had a big loss like Luke or Anakin did, which is what led a lot of the Mary Sue accusations for her. Oh lord, don't get me started on the Holdo maneuver and how that just absolutely breaks SW... But yes, just some big and epic display would've been just so much cooler and even if it was *just* the First Order fighters getting crushed as they approached the Rebel positions would've been super cool. And yeah, Luke was def the strongest and just needed a real show of power and how far he had come since RotJ.

I would say it'd make sense for the Winter's Claw to get scattered/mostly destroyed and Sejuani accepting something of a ceasefire/light alliance that would see the Claw able to trade and seek assistance from the Avarosan settlements when things get tough while still maintaining their autonomy. It might grate on Sej's pride, but it'd move the story forward and present an opportunity for Trundle to gain some ground and perhaps work as a wedge Liss could put between the pair in a hypothetical follow up conflict. And yes, 100% agreed, there cannot be a return to Status Quo, which we have seen done with MF vs GP via skins, so it is doable. And the Watchers in LoR are freakin crazy powerful and expensive, so I think they already have a base to go from. Ah, yes, that's a good touch of madness to Dr. Viktor to show he's still a little off, but still on the side of humanity. I do personally prefer the nano bots as well and maybe they could explain that its components are primarily composed of iron and that's why you see him removing the blood from his opponents so the blood puns can still work.

Yeah, it's definitely a bit of a stretch. The only thing I could see even allowing it to happen story wise is if she lost faith in Nagakabouros after Viego escaped again. Maybe they could just have it as Vel'Koz had observed her, Fizz and Nocturne and the date he sent to the void resulted in Void clones? Oh, yeah, no DC's animation has been freaking incredible (for the most part) for like a decade. Gods and Monsters, The Death of Superman, the 66 Batman revival, Apokolips War... So many good movies! The DCEU really should've been consulting that team.

That would make sense seeing as it has happened before (really looking forward to seeing more Sea Dog skins, although I hate the name), although there is some implication he gets power from another deity that has yet to be revealed. I fiddled around and got her into the 800s by raising a couple of things up a notch and giving her power bestowal. She's still lower than GP, but that's mainly because GP got a whole intricate boss fight where he got to show off a bunch of abilities that wouldn't normally be in his kit. I think Graves is done and I gave Lucian a small buff in power, so let me know what you think. The Sentinels are def going to be less of a power boost, but the nature of their weapons counters the more obvious glow up the Ruined characters got.
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If anything it could've worked if her big loss happened in Episode 8, perhaps during the scuffle she had with Kylo in the throne room (after snoke got blasted out of existance). Honestly i think that would work great, eventhough she would have actual training similarly to how Luke had it on his first encounter with Vader i would have her lose, they dont need to cut off her hand or anything but just losing fairly confidently against Kylo who is now even stronger due to both being focused and angry at Rey for being able to catch him off guard last time, with that happening having them have a final rematch in the third movie would actually feel like a real fight, especially if Luke still dies as that way she really wouldnt have any option but to face him alone and she would also lose her mentor which would make the situation seem even more dire. I can really imagine the scene, a couple fighters are just about to bomb the entrance to that rebel base when Luke swats them away to the side at the last moment, he finally removes his hoodie revealing himself to kylo, maybe we can even have him push away the AT-AT's at that time, after that we can just have him fight Kylo and reinforcments, at the end perhaps stopping the fighters and some of the bigger ships from chasing the rebels which gives Kylo time to stab him from the back. And yea i mean, Luke should've been insane and i was sooooo fucking hyped when i saw him at the end of episode 7, but theeeeeeen yeeeea, doesnt really do much... (Besides drink green alien milk)

Completely forgot about Trundle but that could be an angle to go for it yea, either way, i just really hope for this event, they include far more champions that actually make sense being there instead of trying to jam in at least 1 champion from every region. Yep yep, speaking of that, should i change MF's image to Captain Fortune since its her current appearance, just something i had on mind earlier today. Ohhh, yea i like that, kinda suprised we dont have a skin where Vladimir is able to do that exact thing, definetely could work with this one though thats for sure, will say though i wish Riot went a bit more over the top with the mecha kingdoms skin to give them more of that "iconic" appearance, the only one i really like is Jax, but i also really dislike Draven and Leona skins for that skinline.

That would be interesting as hell, and i would really love it BUT, i think the skins could definetely use a bit of a glow up by making them more voidy, or well Illaoi can stay mostly the same, but i think Fizz and Noc need bigger changes. Cant disagree with that at all, basically everything ive seen yet has been pretty good, you watched Under The Red Hood, asking since thats the one i might plan to watch next, cause well, that one was one of the reccomendations and i am in a bit of a batman mood, watched the new batman recently and all that. (I think its pretty good but, i wouldnt call it great, a bit too slow for me)

I see i see, thanks for the info ofc. And yea uh, "Sea Dog" sounds more like the name of a skinline where champions team up with TF and Graves for a heist. Yeap 902 looks great, amazing job! Graves and Lucian both look great too. And yea for sure, i think the only sentinels that got a boost in power aside from the weapons would be Olaf, Irelia and Riven, since the three of them were able to take attacks from Karma and Pantheon, still they were all portrayed to be fairly weaker so i would at most give them a bump up to tier 2. Still, even just having sentinel weapons is great as long as they are fighting anyone who is undead, considering they were able to hurt anyone aside from Viego.
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A solid loss for her in 8 definitely works and maybe her spending more than like a day in Jedi training, not more than a couple weeks, but enough to get her over confident. Okay, I am totally imagining that line of AT-ATs getting dominoed over. And then when Kylo stabs him, Luke can just give him this very disappointed look before apologizing for failing him or something along those lines. Something to really hammer in that Luke has guilt over Kylo's fall. We... We don't talk about the miluk scene...

Trundle just really needs some love. He's been building up his fief for so long... I do agree she should probably be in her Captain skin, as that is the appearance they use for her in Ruined King. Honestly surprised they haven't changed that and made the og skin Bounty Hunter MF or something. I mean, Vlad is a great candidate for scifi skins like that, I'm even imagining a T-1000 skin for him as well. Ngl, I've never seen the Mecha Kingdom skins in action outside of maybe Sett's I think? But, yeah, I really don't understand why they're separate from the general Mecha line tbh.

Oh, yeah, Noc's definitely needs a 100% overhaul. Fizz's might need some tweaking and Illaoi's does as well. Under the Red Hood is pretty great, although Neil Patrick Harris voices Nightwing, which is kinda weird. Batman vs TMNT comes with a high recommendation from me as well. It's just a lot of fun. I haven't gotten to see the new Bat yet, but I've heard similar thought from my coworkers that have seen it as well, so I'm a little hesitant.

I would like to see the primordial entities expanded upon, because I get the feeling whatever powers Pyke and Naut is a very different entity from Naga. They never use that term in the game either, they just refer to them as the Chosen of Nagakabouros or Nagakabouros's Chosen. I understand that name's a little unwieldly, but they could've gone with Chosen by the Sea, for example. That's good to note. Diana def got a slight power boost of about 600 points due to boosted resistances and such. I'll be interested to see if the Rookie that got absorbed by Thresh is turned into a card for his deck in the future like a Sentinel of the Mist or something. And like they can't remember what they said to people.
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Oh yea that is essentially mandatory, cause the only scene worse than the milk scene is the flashback where Luke wanted to kill Kylo, now that thing was TRULY next level. Easily one of the worst scenes in all of Star Wars. (Only reason why i am not 100% certain on it being worse is because episode 9 has a lot of contenders)

Annnd edited it in, was a bit afraid it wouldnt fit that great but honestly think it turned out pretty well. Yea kinda same, cause they have done that plenty of times with the "traditional" skins, and hell they did the exact thing for GP when they made "Captain Gangplank" his free skin, sooo, no idea really. Lol, terminator Vlad, hunts you down all while spouting blood puns, no worse way to die really. Ah i see, um, no idea here either, they could easily fit aesthethically, only Jax is really different but even he wouldnt really be a stretch at all.

Oh okay thanks thanks. My god, i never thought id hear that mentioned again, i found out about the Batman vs TMNT cause i got a random "Batman vs Shredder" video in my reccomended tab, i had no option but to click it cause i could not believe it was an actual thing, and then, it was. Which i dont mind really at all, i quite like batman and i love the OG TMNTs. Ah i see, yea well, wouldnt call it anything thats a super high priority especially since its 3 hours long but, something for one of those days when there is nothing to really do.

Yea, Riot has been changing around Naga herself a lot, maybe eventually we get more of a reveal, perhaps a new champion similar to illaoi in the sense that its a priest/priestess of one of the opposing gods. Although that is a bit lengthy, i do prefer it, especially your shortened version cause "Sea Dog" just reeeeally doesnt explain what they are that well. Diana looks pretty good and ye makes sense, a fair increase but in general scheme of things nothing too much for her. They did make a bunch of the other sentinels into cards so, having Rookie would be nice, i guess a bit of the charm is in not knowing exactly who or how he looks but they could just make him look like Helmet bro, not much revealed besides just a great reference to the good ol days

Edit: Done with one of the two Aatrox's i think, speaking of which, man do i regret requesting two of them, only reason being cause there arent 2 different images to use for him, which is a real shame cause i always wanted to make 2 for him since there is a pretty vast gap between what he used to be and what he is now, imo at least but yea...
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I've honestly suppressed most of 9 at this point. My brain refuses to acknowledge it due to just, well, everything being just such a mess.

Yeah, no it looks great! I don't think I could've pulled off as good an edit there. I really don't understand why they haven't changed it as I find the og skin kind've cringy ngl. It'd be so freakin funny though... wait! It could be a Battlecast skin and then we could get a resistance Graves that's a prototype battlecast that never worked and defected to the resistance and makes T2 puns! I think they would work fine, although I think the MK skins are going for a more magical world while OG Mecha is going scifi. They could still tie them together by pulling a Pacific Rim and saying the leviathans/giant enemy skin line come from a separate realm that intersects the two. That way they're part of the same universe cluster at least.

OMG, that movie is just full of awesome moments, like the Arkham Inmates getting mutated by the ooze and freakin Polar Bear Mr Freeze. It is such a good matchup and perfectly blends the two together. I highly recommend the 3 volume comic as well as it's a little more serious but still amazing. 3 hours, really? I really wish we'd slide back to 2 to 2 1/2 hours as 3 starts to push my patience ceiling.

I think the seas have room for more than one god like maybe Naga is the god of the sea and the other one is the god of the deep or something along those lines. Like a yin yang kind of thing where Naga looks to the future for change while the other looks to the past for vengeance. Could be a cool dichotomy. Yeah, the name just needs to show they're empowered by good ol Naga and Sea Dogs just doesn't do that. Maybe Rookie's card could have multiple variations so that you could pick a look for your specific card or if they make em part of Thresh's entourage they could be something of an amalgam of trope elements to represent their dissonant state. Or it could be a card that when you play it, you pick one of 5 forms or something like that with each corresponding to a role in the main game.

I think I found a pic that could work for your purposes:

It's not official art, mind you, but it's from Deng Yue/Boris, who has worked on Splash Arts for Riot in the past. I know it's not ideal, but it's like half way official.
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That is probably for the best, because honestly at least episode 8 had some memeable moments if nothing else, 9 is just barren, impossible to enjoy something even ironically.

Ey thanks, and ye definetely do agree it looks better. I dont mind the skin itself too bad but holy shit, hearing MF's telling me "ive got dangerous eyes" does make me hurt inside very deeply, she EASILY has among the worst ingame voicelines, especially since over the years her lore became some of the best imo. Oh my god, yes, a terminator with a robot cigar and half of his face can be covered in skin while the other is robotic, combined with the puns that might be one of the rare skins i just outright buy on release. Yea just idk, have them fight The Crabgot and maybe rework Loch Ness cho into more of a sea styled kaiju and boom, easy way to connect them.

Honestly of the most entertaining ones ive seen yes, having Shredder rip out them ninja moves against Batman was something i never thought i needed but alas, and hmm yea il keep it in mind, 3 volumes is fairly small after all sooooooo thanks. Yea i think without the outro and credit scene its 2 hours 56 minutes or so. And i do agree, i kinda really prefer shorter movies, usually dont have nor do i like sitting in one spot for 2 1/2 to 3 hours, whenever i see a movie is 3 hours long i almost always lose interest in it unless i have really high expectations.

Like that idea quite a bit, and yea makes sense cause Naut doesnt feel too "Naga-esque" in nature, that could just be a really good way to expand on the bilgewater worldbuilding cause, all other deities in the world are fairly expanded upon, Bilgewater kinda jus had Naga at start and its still for most part just that. Hmmmm, id say maybe the amalgam option sounds the best to me, perhaps he would do something with the wayfinder, maybe have an ability to change the target of an enemy spell to himself or something along the lines cause, "teleportation device".

Damn yo thanks a whole fucking lot, edited it in and i think it looks pretty good, definetely can work until we hopefully get an Aatrox in LoR. And tbf i dont mind using "un-official" art, as long as it has some connection to the real thing. One way or another thanks a lot! I will also update the other Aatrox bit later today, made a couple plans too many for the day so schedule full atm
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As much as I disliked 8, doing such a hard course correct with the follow up was just laughably dumb.

Yeah, MF really really needs her VO overhauled quite thoroughly. Like she can still be sexual, but she's in charge now and her VO should reflect that. I'm honestly surprised we haven't gotten a terminator homage yet, and Graves is the perfect semi-tanky ADC to pull it off. And you know his back has to have him saying "I'll be back!" And Battlecast is the perfect setting for it, especially seeing as the Resistance is kinda buggered for any kind of heavy hitters. Oh yeah, Loch Ness Cho could definitely be reconfigured into a kaiju no doubt. I'd actually say all of the void champs are perfect for a Giant Enemy skin as they're all mostly non-humanoid. Now that I'm thinking about it, a Giant Enemy Mundo could work as being a prototype Mecha Sion that went rogue.

The comic's written by James Tynion, so you know it has to be good. Really kind've disappointed they didn't adapt the second and third part to animation. Bane takes over the foot clan in the second one, which leads to a pretty epic confrontation between him and a team up between Batman and Shredder. Oh, yeah, that seems hellish. We'd figured out 2 or 2 1/2 was the ideal length for a movie, idk why we keep having to push it farther.

A kind of hidden "cult" within the Buhru could work and act as something of an opposite but not antagonistic force. And yeah, Pyke and Naut are most certainly not Naga's doing as she hates the undead. Oh, yeah, that makes perfect sense to me and kind've work into Thresh/the Shadow Isle's killing their own stuff so they can protect their more valuable cards.

Oh, I'm happy it works! I had to triple check it wasn't official and now I really wanna see an Aatrox v Pantheon fight in canon. And no problem, take your time.
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Whelp, as long as the Kenobi show is half as good as episode 7, i think we can consider ourselves happy, cause honestly my expectations for new SW movies/shows are extreeemely low.

Yea some of the lines can be kept, and they can even add lines where she playfully banters with TF or whatnot all completely good as far as im concerned, just, everything with "summoner" needs to be nuked instantly, and then we need a lot more lore interactions, just giving her special quotes against any of the ruined king crew and GP would go miles. Terminator Graves in Battlecast, thats an idea i never thought id hear, probably one of the best possible ideas for Battlecast to dabble in though. Yea Void champs and Mundo could work really well, plus i do think a skin where Mundo is more, "serious-evil" type insane could work pretty well. I think Galio could also work either as a winged kaiju or a giant mech, a tiny idea that i think could work really well is to give him wings that are normally fairly small (comparatively to rest of his size naturally) but whenever he ults or Q's they expand quite massively, i can just imagine it lookign awesome, especially since its Galio who is a pretty cool guy to say the least.

Wait, Batman and Shredder, team up to double team Bane? That concept by itself is so insane that even if the execution was ass it would be fun to watch, the comic has definetely risen on my priority list. Hmmm, i guess if i had to assume its possibly because Infinity War and especially Endgame were both long, seeing as they did really good in cinema people could be trying to emulate that, besides randomess thats the only reasoning i can figure out. (Bit off topic but honestly, i didnt like Endgame that much)

Yea yea, a group worshiping the evil twin god/goddess of Naga, they can be far less popular than the buhru but far more crazy and devoted, could be a nice way to delve a bit into Lovecraft style stuff, maybe they can even connect said deity to void in a bit although id probably prefer if its just a far more evil sibling of Naga. Yep yep, cause only real faction he could fit in would be shadow isles, maybe he can have some sort of last breathe effect cause of that, dont really have any clue what id give him though.

Well they did already fight tbf, first Aatrox killed the aspect of war and then Atreus beat him after, BUT, it could be really nice to have them rematch considering they already fought at the peak of their power, having them fight again now that both are more or less the weakest they have been in a while could be a nice callback sorta deal.
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Whelp, as long as the Kenobi show is half as good as episode 7, i think we can consider ourselves happy, cause honestly my expectations for new SW movies/shows are extreeemely low.

Yea some of the lines can be kept, and they can even add lines where she playfully banters with TF or whatnot all completely good as far as im concerned, just, everything with "summoner" needs to be nuked instantly, and then we need a lot more lore interactions, just giving her special quotes against any of the ruined king crew and GP would go miles. Terminator Graves in Battlecast, thats an idea i never thought id hear, probably one of the best possible ideas for Battlecast to dabble in though. Yea Void champs and Mundo could work really well, plus i do think a skin where Mundo is more, "serious-evil" type insane could work pretty well. I think Galio could also work either as a winged kaiju or a giant mech, a tiny idea that i think could work really well is to give him wings that are normally fairly small (comparatively to rest of his size naturally) but whenever he ults or Q's they expand quite massively, i can just imagine it lookign awesome, especially since its Galio who is a pretty cool guy to say the least.

Wait, Batman and Shredder, team up to double team Bane? That concept by itself is so insane that even if the execution was ass it would be fun to watch, the comic has definetely risen on my priority list. Hmmm, i guess if i had to assume its possibly because Infinity War and especially Endgame were both long, seeing as they did really good in cinema people could be trying to emulate that, besides randomess thats the only reasoning i can figure out. (Bit off topic but honestly, i didnt like Endgame that much)

Yea yea, a group worshiping the evil twin god/goddess of Naga, they can be far less popular than the buhru but far more crazy and devoted, could be a nice way to delve a bit into Lovecraft style stuff, maybe they can even connect said deity to void in a bit although id probably prefer if its just a far more evil sibling of Naga. Yep yep, cause only real faction he could fit in would be shadow isles, maybe he can have some sort of last breathe effect cause of that, dont really have any clue what id give him though.

Well they did already fight tbf, first Aatrox killed the aspect of war and then Atreus beat him after, BUT, it could be really nice to have them rematch considering they already fought at the peak of their power, having them fight again now that both are more or less the weakest they have been in a while could be a nice callback sorta deal. Edit: Done with Aatrox, thanks again for the help ofc, guess this only leaves Fiddle, Kindred, Pantheon and the two who are soon to be reworked.
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I mean, they've got Ewan Mcgregor back, so at least we know the main actor knows what he's doing. I know they've been teasing Vader for it, but I really hope they keep it as like visions and such.

She at least needs lines for all of the Bilgewater champs and then 1000% her "Sea Dog" teammates and then likely Viego and Thresh as well. I think the ratinale for a Battlecast/Resistance Graves is that Viktor needed a machine to hunt down the resistance that could also operate independently, so he modeled it over the only bounty hunter he knew, which was Graves. Alternatively if they want to bulk up a different champ's skin line, Samira could work as well as a T-800 or just a resistance fighter as well or they could be like a team that Viktor designed but went rogue. Oh, yes a more serious Mundo could be quite frightening, especially with that robotic voice they add to the mechas. How did I not think of Galio!!! Yes, he would be great for the role, especially if they pull in elements from like Destoroyah due to his bulky physique. What if he took some design inspiration from beetles and like his back opened up to reveal the wings? That'd be pretty sick. I'd def prefer him as a kaiju, though, as it would be his second "organic" skin, I think.

Oh yeah, Bane had spliced his venom with the mutagen and he was freakin crazy strong that Batman knew he couldn't take him alone. It was so hype to see him and Shredder team up, even if it was only for one battle. I suppose those two were pretty long and successful, but I could only really tolerate that because there were so many characters it kind've needed that screen time, although there is A LOT I would have changed about Endgame... And yeah, I did not like it either.

Well, if Naga draws inspiration from Cthulhu, I think the obvious design route to draw from would be octopus man's half-brother Hastur. He's more concerned with gaining knowledge and staying in the background to accomplish his goals. He also prefers to act through avatars, which Pyke and Naut would certainly make sense as. Be a cool little dichotomy of two siblings that rule the sea with one being the terror we know and the other being the terror of the unknown. I would say if the Rookie got a Last Breath effect, it would need to be something that wouldn't immediately affect play, like maybe he could create a copy of themself that goes back to the deck to represent Thresh wanting to hang onto that particular soul. That way the card has some recursion, but isn't added directly back to your hand like the minion card. Oh, maybe when it is added back, it gives it a random keyword that changes on each death?

Oh, no, you're right. I had 100% forgotten somehow. And yeah, having the prime one's profile pic being the one where he's fighting Pantheon makes perfect sense then! I will say that Varus is tier 3 so should sealed Aatrox be as well? And yes, just gotta wait for our boys to get their reworks...
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As far as Vader is concerned, i heard from a friend who is really following everything Star Wars related that apparently Kenobi and Vader will even have a fight in there, which, i am not really fond of cause their fight in episode 4 was supposed to be the first time they see each other again no?

Yea yea, just with those it would be perfectly fine, nothing amazing but definetely enough to suffice. Makes sense to me, perhaps that could explain how more Battlecast skins were made, since maybe after seeing Graves and Samira went rogue due to giving them some ammount of indenpendance he would make another batch of Battlecasts to finally eradicate any sort of resistance left, Bel'veth can be one cause apparently thats the release skin through theories and the other one could maybe be Asol, not only does he need skins but maybe he can be Viktor's ultimate creation far greater than even he himself is, a giant black/red robot dragon would be pretty dope, only reason why im not completely sold on the concept is that its not "amazing" enough for Asol, he kinda always has to be the centre of attention whenever he is added as a skin i feel, i guess they could just really make his design very over the top by making him look truly evil. Ey always would enjoy more Destroyah style stuff so all up for it, and yea that would be the second one with first one being the dragon one, which is an okay skin imo.

Already noted down a way for me to read it so just a matter of me getting some time and doing it at this point, with ideas like that it cant disappoint. Mhm yea more or less the same, eventhough i enjoyed Infinity War it was mostly because of the entire "final movie" style they had around it, and even then they arent my favourite from the MCU, i far prefer Iron man 1 and Thor Ragnarok especially for example.

Werent really much aware of him before this but if they made Naga's sibling be like him? Damn, all for it cause sheesh thats the perfect ammount of lovecraft for me, plus everything you said does make a lot of sense. Oh, yea that could work really well, defintely like the returning to deck aspect, about random keyword hmmm, i think i would rather prefer if he just got some sort of a stat buff, example each time he dies and is drawn and summoned back he has +1 higher attack then before, i prefer that mostly cause i really dislike RNG of any sort and i think he could become a very detrimental card in the lategame if he still only just gets a random keyword, because well imagine on 10 managems you draw a 1 cost Rookie thats like, 2/1 with double attack, would suck quite a lot

I was thinking about what tier i should leave him at, should've probably asked you about it first but honestly i do think you are right, originally i put him as 2 because he doesnt actually have a good host body like Varus but he should still be in a similar ballpark considering he still is considered a great threat to the world, his main problem is that his stamina is too shit since normal human bodies cant sustain him, oh well edited him around, look better now?. Whelp, seemingly no info of them on the PBE yet, riot is however doing the biggest patch in a while though, seeing as there has been too mcuh damage in the game "lately", they are just plain out giving 300 hp and 15-20 resistances to every champ in the game at level 18.

Edit: Batch 2 of High Noon skins just arrived and i mean, id say this batch is weaker for sure but Tahm and Viktor are really good, especially like that Viktor is a doctor trying to save souls by putting them into machine bodies who went crazy due to Morde. Oh and Bel'veth's abilities have some possible leaks but they havent been confirmed so they arent on [email protected] yet. Edit 2: Also just revealed Nami and TF VFX updates, Riot really is pumping them out like no tommorow this year, really like that.
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Oh yeah, no that battle should not happen. As far as I know, Vader thought Kenobi dead. If they wanna have Kenobi fight Inquisitors, that's fine and maybe they report it back to Vader, but a direct confrontation is canon breaking. We'll have to wait and see.

Bel'Veth has to have a Battlecast skin, no doubt. I think ASol could work if it's intended to be Viktor attempting to remake a god, seeing as I bet the real ASol escaped from Targon in this timeline. It'd be really sick, especially if he has that molten metal coursing through his body like Xerath. My only hesitation would be that he does already have Mecha ASol, so that might put a damper on the whole thing due to operating in a similar design space. Now that I'm thinking in that head space, maybe he could've built a giant moving fortress in the form of Ornn? They share a slot of elements and maybe it's Viktor's mobile conversion forge like a World Devastator or something. I'll be the first admit I'm not a huge fan of Destoroyah, but he matches up well to Galio's build and I'm surprised they haven't made more Giant Enemy skins, especially around when GvK dropped.

When you get the chance to read em, let me know what you think! My favorite MCU movies are probably Winter Soldier and GotG1. And, yeah, End Game was just so bloated and directionless. I really wish they hadn't gone down the time travel angle and maybe the Stones scattered after Thanos tries to destroy them because the wouldn't let him... idk.

Yeah, having twin deities that are both connected and work for their own purposes would be really fun and would tap into the Cosmic Horror angle without going overboard. Like, I love Lovecraft's writing, but it can get pretty headache inducing. A general stat increase and maybe a mana increase as well (something like +1 to cost, power and toughness) that maybe caps out at 5 so he gets more useful but doesn't eventually get crazy cost wise or anything.

That's a good point, but probably just something noted in the weaknesses? And you don't have endurance attached to him, so I think that should make it apparent. He does look good now! Excellent work! I've started work on Sentinel Pyke, Olaf and Rengo. I'll bet we get Udyr's sooner rather than later. They have the framework for the skins finished, so they should get finished rather quickly. Oh, man, do I love that Kench! Just the right amount of malice with a tad of goofiness. And yes, love Viktor being more or less a good guy that's been conscripted by the arch villain! So good! I do like Twitch's, ngl. Love the idea of him being Pestilence and wearing the bird mask and everything. I think this is the first time he's ever gotten a legit power up in a skin. Oooo, I like the Q update on Nami, makes it very clear where it's going. And TF's updates just look great!
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Yea i do guess overall Ornn would be a better fit due to what you said, still Ornn would work great, perhaps rather than hitting his anvil to create/upgrade items he could spew some molten metal out of his mouth while molding it with his hands or something along the lines, the skin itself could look very good just very depending on how they do his horns. Whelp i guess it would mostly be cause its definetely not one of the popular skinlines, if anything from what ive seen most of the mecha/kaiju stuff is fairly unpopular, at least compared to Event Horizon, Star Guardian, KDA and etc etc lines.

Will do will do. Ahh, funny you say that cause, i really found Winter Soldier boring, mostly cause i never cared much about Bucky outside of the first Cap movie, still its a pretty good movie just not my style and i do love GotG1 (and 2). Absolutely agreed, firstly i dont like time travel anywhere really, but more importantly, when they killed the original thanos in the first 10-15 mins i was pretty uh "let down". Not only did he feel like he got done in a bit too easily even if he did get jumped by all of em, but far more importantly after he died, i really did not care about alternate timeline Thanos, if anything he felt kinda lame especially due to how much i liked the real Thanos.

Yea for sure, i love some of the concepts but i cant read it myself cause at times it does get a bit too much, however as concepts? Im all about it. Yea perhaps his last breathe effect changes to something else, maybe he can still respawn but he does it automatically after 2 turns now? It is a powerful effect for sure but considering you would have to summon him 5 times for that, id say it would be justified (I can already imagine how annoying it would be to play against someone with silence)

Thanks thanks, started working on Pantheon slowly too now, not done yet but getting there. Dont know if you are done with them but either way they all look great for now. Yea i just think they nailed it out of the park with those two, Tahm is someone who always could've worked as a High Noon demon cause well, he is a demon, and for Viktor i did not expect it at all but they did very good with him too, the only skin i really really dislike from the batch is Sion, Samira is okay, nothing great or terrible just a "cowboy bounty hunter" Samira which works. The only part i dont like about Twitch is that they gave him boots, i feel like it makes him look a bit too "human", still though yea the idea of it is pretty good and it might actually be the first time he has a power upgrade thats not just "Twitch but with better weapons"
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Ornn could also definitely use a new skin.. But, yes, I like that idea of him spewing the magma out. Maybe like the in lore explanation is that his hands are able to reconfigure the matter into whatever he's programmed with. I always liked the Mecha Skins as I think they're a lot of fun, but yeah, they don't give off the power of the Event Horizons or have the fun factor of the Star Guardians. I just want more giant robots 😭

I just love Cap and the the fight choreography was awesome. Kinda nice to get away from the bombastic battles of Thor and Iron Man. GotG 2 isn't my favorite. I just don't like what they did with Ego. Yes! It was so freakin stupid to get rid of the Thanos we had grown attached to just to replace him with a completely lifeless and apathetic version. Like, they could've had the quatum realm act as worm holes and when Thanos went for the snap to destroy the stones, they scattered. But because the Soul stone is attached to him (due to how he got it), he sends out the souls of the Black Order to protect the scattered stones so those characters can do something. And then the Avengers still have to match back up with Thanos to complete the gauntlet.

Yeah, I only read a story at a time. Even though they're usually less than 40 pages, those stories are stacked. That could work to act like you're building up to something really good. Oh, right, I hate silence. At least from my experience it's fairly rare or I'm just incredibly lucky. Just let me play my goofy all prismatic Poro deck!

Looking at Panties and I tried to do the calculations to figure out how strong he would need to be to jump past the thermosphere and my brain broke. I am not good at multi layered calculations. I will say I think he needs mid or low tactician, maybe damage boost and maybe a boost to 80/90 on combat? Yeah, Tahm is a natural fit and Vik took me completely by surprise, but I am not complaining. Yeah, Sion just doesn't really feel right. I'm also surprised they didn't give Samira gunblades as it actually kinda makes sense for her, but the design is fine enough. Oh damn, I hadn't noticed the boots... Yeah, that looks weird, and I'm not immediately imagining a way to right the issue. I just like the poor rat boy getting a real upgrade. I mean, Jhin has gotten to be a Dark Star...
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I think another skin the Battlecast universe could use is some sort of a rival against Viktor, someone more so on the even ground compared to resistance cause well they are just that the resistance, originally i thought maybe Heimer but honestly i dont think he could fit it too well since he is a bit too jokey as a character, so wasnt really able to fiddle anything with that idea. We both tho but... alas, honestly the only skinline i dont want to see anymore at all is Withered Rose, i really dislike the skinline because i just plain out think it looks like ass, or well, it does look ass to me personally.

Yeeea that is an often complaint i hear about GotG 2 which tbf is a completely valid one, i just dont mind it that much myself but ye. Oh, hold up, that is actually an amazing idea, yea no that is actually just great, makes the black order characters have some purpose along with Real Thanos still being the obstacle to beat yea i love that. Also another part that always felt a bit weird, after Thanos does his thing in Infinity War and snaps everyone to live his farm life where did the rest of his "followers" go? Sure Black Order members got killed along with a fair number of others in the Wakanda attack but then again he also was able to genocide various planets manually before, surely that couldnt have been everyone, what im trying to say is that i would've at least liked a mention of what they were doing for the past 5 years, or maybe a mention that Captain Marvel was still hunting them down since traveling around the universe is her thing anyways. (Just a tiny comment i had to get out since i am quite a sucker for that sorta stuff)

Mhm i did re-read issue one over this last weekend, it really is quite a lot of good fun. Ye Silece is pretty rare from what ive seen too, it just sometimes randomly appears to ruin all plans but personally, i mind elusive much more. We all need a Poro deck, meanwhile i am still trying to make my Heimy Viktor deck work to not much success but in due time!

Ah i see, i actually used to do a lot of calculations back for VSBW when i used it a couple years back (Ironically enough cause i blow ass at regular math) but i mostly stopped ever since i stopped going to it, cause well for most part they really arent that accurate, either way i will probably increase his speed a bit when i think about it since with the one i setup right now it would take him near a minute to go from the lowest level of thermosphere to ground, which is a bit too hefty of a lowball imo. Thanks for the help added both, still will re-read his stuff again later today cause been a while since i started working on him, gotta jog the memory and check if there is anything i missed. Yeeeeea, considering what sorta treatment Jhin got the rat definetely deserves his due even if its not dark star or anything.

Speaking of Jhin, he got announced for LoR, looks pretty good from what ive seen.
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Looking at skin counts so that someone without many gets a chance, the ones that strike me as possibilities are Renata, Rell and maybe Zeri. They'd all make good resistance members at least. Or Ekko could be a Kyle Reese they want to send back in time to prevent the timeline from happening in the first place? Oh yeah, the Rose line doesn't look great. Too similar to Debonair. I also don't like Space Groove at all.

Yeah, now that you mention it, he should have more servants. At the very least he'd have Supergiant still out there and he had a large enough presence he had Kree warriors defect to him. Yeah, there just really wasn't enough opposition for the Avengers in that movie. Yeah, um, I know there's a lot goin on out in space, but I feel like CM could've worked some time out of her schedule to stop the dude who's genociding 50% of races to at least do something about it...

Thank god silence is fairly rare. I hate decks that just prevent the other from functioning with no counterplay. It usually not targeting champs is good too. Oh, that sounds like an interesting combo. I'm not too familiar with the Donger, but Viktor is really good imo. I've been playing around with a Pantheon/Soraka deck and having some good success with it, although I might try trading Soraka out with Taric to see how that does.

I hate doing calcs, although I can do them. I know the animation in LoR isn't supposed to be 100% accurate, but it only takes him like 4-5 seconds to jump that high. Doubling or even tripling that number seems reasonable to me.

Oh, he did? Goody. I do like what I'm seeing. Initial thoughts is to pair him with Yasuo to get the most stuns possible. The origin mechanic is interesting to me, although I don't know how I feel about it...
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Id probably pick Ekko out of those and if not him then likely Rell cause well, a resistance member being able to use battlecast equipment through controlling it? Pretty cool as far as i am concerned. Yea i dont like space groove at all, especially Nasus cause i love Nasus and they did him dirty : /.

Yeap yeap exactly that, most of the movie is just them having problems with time travel which i wouldnt even consider good problems since they could have very easily been solved by just getting more pym particles but yeeeea, the only part i enjoyed was the last part cause its a huge fight scene, my fanservice senses were in full motion still though even that felt kinda whatever cause, did not really care about alternate Thanos at all.
I do dislike silence but, compared to elusive its not even remotely close for me, i absolutely despise elusive. Ye Viktor is pretty good in certain decks i just cant make a GLORIOUS EVOLUTION deck work much so, usually i just play the very cheezy Tahm/Soraka deck nowadays, although i am mid-way through collecting enough resources to get a new deck, would like to try something with Azir really.

Yea ive gone and tripled it for now, that way it would take him anywhere from a couple seconds to more than a minute, makes it kinda a fair middle ground since we dont know where exactly in it he was. With that and with editing his bio and etc etc i am fully done with him i think, he ended up a bit lower than i expected but tbf whenever he did fight Aatrox or whonot he did kinda lose at start, he just always got a lot stronger after that due to willpower so i think it works.

Likewise likewise, i think they did a good job on him, not amazing though but when it comes to Jhin things really need to go perfect and thats very hard to do, still uh i like it, wasnt expecting him but definetely a good choice imo. Im 50/50 on it too yea.

Edit: The teaser for void mommy is finally here, its pretty damn cool and by looks of we could be getting some Vel stuff too. Either way seemingly she and Vel/watchers seemingly do work separately. Oh and Kai'sa got a splash update in which she is more corrupted by the void, you can see it on universe, i think it looks kinda ass but i guess she could be the first of the "corrupted" champs
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Okay, don't hate me, but I do like lil Corgi piloting an exoskeleton Nasus. So cute! I'm sad we didn't get a lil lizard piloting a Renekton mech... That being said, I see exactly where you're coming from. I hugely dislike space groove Lux as well.

Yeah, I didn't get why Tony and Banner could make time travel, but not Pym particles, a 50+ year old invention. And it's not like Hank's research disappeared or anything. Or the big brain squad could've reverse engineered the stuff they had. Aside from the trio v Thanos fight, I really didn't care about the final battle. It was just a bunch of noise imo. And I mean, snapping Lameos and his army away has irrevocably damaged the timeline as well... Like, why couldn't Tony put them back and wipe their memories? He has the gauntlet and could literally do anything. Dumb plot holes.

Elusive doesn't bother me too much, as I'm used to having to swat down Flying creatures in Magic, although I have not run into a pure elusive deck. I do run a Luxreal deck, though so I do use some elusive. I've never unlocked the Kench and only played against a deck with him in it once and he didn't make it to the board even. Soraka's honestly just super good. Hard to think of any champ she wouldn't harmonize with outside of maybe Garen. Played around with a Galioraka deck and it was pretty nuts. Azir looks like a lot of fun, although I wish they made it to where battle summoned ephemeral creatures didn't disappear if you went over the 6 limit..

Yeah, I was expecting him to be closer to 10k, but I'm not really seeing anything that could be added off the top of my head. Might be one to mark down as one to look back on later or somesuch. I've tried putting LoLAU up again, so we'll see if it takes this time.

Yeah, I definitely like how they have implemented him and I think he'll be fun to try to work into a bunch of decks. I'm kinda sad he didn't get his own trap mechanic like Cait and Teemo, though. I think they said there was going to be three others with their own origin, so I'll be eager to see what they do and who they pick. Maybe Rell?

Ooooooo, that's so exciting! I'm kind of happy we know there are at least 2 factions of Void creatures, happy to see they're not a monolith. Yeah, uh, Kai'Sa looks kinda dumb in that splash, ngl. Hopefully it leads to a fully corrupted Kai'Sa...
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I think the idea of a lil Corgi piloting a Nasus is great BUT, i really cant stand it because Nasus still sounds like his usual depressed self just with a tiny voice filter, if all his voice lines got replaced with 10 random sounds of a corgi barking it would be a 10/10 skin. Lux is terrible yea, just 0 soul in that skin, plus it looks absolutely ass imo.

They could've also just went back in time to get more Pym particles, which is what they did anyways later on but for some reason nobody thought of that when they were all planning together since that way they'd have essentially infinite attempts. I doooo quite agree, i think it was a pretty bad movie writing wise, it kinda just relied a lot on fanservice really.

Ah i see, i am also unfairly biased against it since i played a lot on release where Elusive was, absolutely disgustingly broken, sooo nowadays whenever i see an elusive deck i remember the olde times where everyone ran em. He is just funny really, you eat someone, Soraka heals Tahm, but yea its just Soraka being a great unit moreso than Tahm. While i do think it would be kinda neat, balancing it could be hard especially with someone like Hecarim, but well maybe they could temporarily try it in the future just to test the waters.

Yea perhaps in the future i will look back at him again. Oh, nice nice, well fingers crossed it works this time.

Well, an Illaoi is going to get released too which, honestly i watched the video and i still for most part have no idea what she does, i kinda doooont like how they've done her but thats mostly cause i have really high standards for LoR. Besides her tho, yea Rell is a fairly good pick, id also suggest Sylas but i doubt he is gonna be one of them.

Mhm mhm, as far as it goes for now, she seems like a good addition to the lore, not much around yet but still, definetely good for nowimo. Yeeeeea really agree there, it just looks like an extremely cheap edit, as if some league copygame just "altered" her so she looks different. Unless this is supposed to be a "fully corrupted" Kai'Sa...
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Oh... That's lame. The lil puppy yips is what I was expecting, or at least a very positive-sounding Susan... Honestly, I feel like Lux already had a skin (Star Guardian) that had the same vibe as Groove. Why not give the spot to someone that could use a new skin instead like Seraphine or Taliyah? And I feel like Vex makes the most sense as a villain for that universe. Okay, I also just saw SG Blitz and Crank and I sorta love it too. πŸ˜…

Yeah, I really wish they had made Endgame more... intimate. With the remaining heroes using what little resources they had left to claw back victory from overwhelming defeat instead of moping for 5 years. Also, Captain Marvel needed to lose to Thanos decisively. She needs her cockiness checked because she's such a non-character with it as is.

Oh, I can understand that. And yeah, honestly, Soraka is kind've too good and splashable. Even if you can't get her leveled up, she's still super good. Oh, yeah, I get that it'd be hard. Maybe there could just be like 1 or 2 "ephemeral" attack spots so that if you have an army deck it can still get big, but not overwhelmingly so. Idk, I just want to build big armies.

Yeah, we'll see. I mean, we're only gonna do the verses with real lore and it just doesn't make sense to make a new universe for each individual verse or to stick em in the normal verse seeing as of this moment it has 173 profiles.

Oh, I just looked at Illaoi and I kind of hate her? Like, number 1, she's not muscular enough and she's just generally been slimmed down, which I hate. Also, only the Truth Bearer is able to summon out Naga's boon physically, so she and Naga (who I'll need to request now that she has a picture) should be the only units that can spawn the tentacles. I overall don't like the implementation of the tentacles. I do like that Naga's getting a card, but I'm kind of offended she's an 8 cost 5/8. That feels super weak for what she is.

I'm also thinking maybe the Watchers were just the vanguard faction of the void and Bel'Veth has grown tired of their limited progress? It'd explain Vel's look of fear. Might also explain the other Void creatures being newer prototypes meant to terraform the world rather than obliterate it. Yeah, what they have now looks super lazy. I'm fine with them reusing the splash and corrupting it, but it doesn't look like they even got the same artist to do the edit. I do hope we get a line of "corrupted" champs with hopefully this event focused on the Freljord and Shurima. Maybe we could even see two different approaches to combating the invasion with maybe the Demi-Gods choosing champions to empower to represent them while Azir seeks a new crop of champs to ascend, although it ends up only being temporary or something due to the Sun Disc being cracked or something.

Edit: I realized we forgot to request fuckin Blitzcrank! I was gonna do a battle with him and just had the realization!
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He does yip at times like when you ult for example, or well, "barks", but also hearing Nasus talk about death the very next second just doesnt mix well for me. It is just a better space groove more or less, and a lot better really. Honestly, i think Space Groove Taric could've been great, just give him a very campy Elvis Presley style outfit and a bunch of lights and he would work like a charm. Yea, Vex could be the villain that wants to destroy the Space Groove stuff because its too happy and bright! Ye Blitz and Crank is very good too, yes, cause its 2 cats piloting a mech after all.

Yeea i do agree alright, i mean personally even then i wouldn't have liked Captain Marvel more or less at all but it would be a start. Characters are kind of a big thing why im not excited more or less at all for future MCU projects, only really have a couple that i really like nowadays, and far more that i dont.

Hmm yea perhaps, you could have more ephermeral units BUT, you could only attack with lets say, any regular unit you have +4 more ephermal units at the same turn, so that way you can have 10 attackers at the same turn at most which, could be an instakill but its not always one. And lets be real the chances of you having 6 units + 4 ephemerals is low unless you are already turbo winning.

Damn 173? It really doesnt strike one how much that is until its said outloud, but yea uh, considering there will be PLENTY of skins, it would get really really cramped, overall the separate page for skin lines is one of the best ideas either of us has had yet.

I do very much agree, first of all she looks noticably smaller, but also much younger? Like i know Illaoi isnt supposed to be Camille or Swain but i always saw her as someone who is around 40 or so, she looks more so 30 if not even less in LoR tho which just looks very very odd. Yeeeea thats not really ideal at all i guess, but at least we got good images for em : /. Yea at the very least i would've given Naga 7/9 or something, id say 9/9 but thats probably too much for a 8 cost, but i also dont want to increase her cost to 10 cause i do feel Aurelion should be one of the very rare 10 costs.

Could be yea could be, either way whatever it is i do like it, and the teasers are very nice giving both mentions to Malzahar and Vel'koz, as far as it is now i do have good hopes for the Void event. I would have even prefered it they just made it so that her helmet was on permanently and maybe give her a darker shade of purple for the suit and whatnot. I will be completely honest, please Riot do BUT also, if one champion needs that treatment its Sivir, not only is she kinda bland as is, but there is no doubt Azir would want to make sure his only remaning known descandant doesnt die, plus she already has an ascended's weapon so they wouldnt even need to change her gameplay. Besides her tho, really not sure who i would pick either for the corrupt or ascend side, maybe Trundle could work as a cool void corrupted one but yeea.

Well shit, i was actually gonna go over everyone we posted one of these days cause i had a fear we might've missed someone, and i guess we really just did.
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Oh no, you can't have a cute pup talking about death. He def needs a full vo makeover for the skin. Oooo, I like that for Taric or maybe like Elton John? I will say I'm kind of confused about Lissandra being the main villain? Is it Dark Cosmic Liss? Or did they forget to give the main villain a skin? The evil side needs a full team, imo. So with Vex, Liss and Blitz we have Supp and Mid covered. Maybe Kled for top?

She's just not likeable at all and her frowning all the time just makes it look like she doesn't want to be there. Yeah, I haven't had much interest in any of the new stuff they're coming out with. I did have to see No Way Home so I could see Spider-Tobey again.

That's not a bad idea and with Azir at least, you kind of need landmarks in play, which further reduces your attacking force. And yeah, if you're already popping off that hard, you're probably going to win anyway, but it's just so depressing to see your minions disappear into nothing.

Yup, 173 at last count. And once the ones in the request queue go through, we are out of canon champs and variants. Hopefully the others see that logic. Like going through the Marvel and DC characters is a pain in the ass.

From my understanding Illaoi's supposed to be mid to late 30s so she's about the same age as Braum but younger than GP. She just looks so off model and making her skinnier just looks weird. Like Ezreal off model weird. I will say if she were to be made a 10 cost, she would be the only one from Bilgewater because it is implied her Avatar you battle in RK is only a little weaker than Viego. Even a 9 cost would be good, as she should cost more than a stupid ship. But, yeah, idk how I feel about the tentacle mechanic. I'd rather they strike a random enemy when they come into play or something and were ephemeral or something.

I'm kind of wondering if Vel turns traitor and tries to stop the Empress so he can finish his studies. Yeah, if they just made it to where the suit had completely taken over, that would've worked better. I would say if they do go that route, they should only pick a handful of champs for each region, like 4 and 4. Like each of the living ascended pick an apprentice of sorts like Azir with Sivir (because we need that pay off god dammit!) and Anivia with Ashe. I feel like Renekton would really like Darius and Nasus would like Jayce. Corrupted Trundle could work really well, him seeing them as a quick way to boost his strength to finish uniting the Trollands. Tryndamere is another that could work as a corrupted.

I'm pretty sure Blitz is the only one, but it doesn't hurt to double check.
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They dont even need a full voicover just, remove all his depressing lines and add in 10 random adorable corgi barks, perfection! Elton John could work too yea but uh villains. Honestly have not much of a clue myself, for top though kled could work, but as just an absolute meme skin, SG Malphite, its just regular malphite but in disco clothes. (I crave a malphite skin like that, perhaps with disco music during his ult charge)

Yea No way Home was good, but honestly i was, a bit disappointed since i expected more, Willem Dafoe was great as the Green Goblin tho thats for sure.

Mhm maybe there could be a token system implemented of sorts? Perhaps if you have more than 6 ephemerals on the board, you can keep those for the next turn as long as they didnt defend or attack? Ofc unless you have more then 6 next turn those would disappear too.

I didnt actually request all 6 ruined/sentinel champs from my batch yet but i guess i could just add them along since, well, it has been quite a while again. After that tho yea all should be out.

Yea exactly like Ezreal, just very offputting. Lol, yea, 9 cost sounds good imo, overall i dont actually like Illaoi or her units additions, i think they are a bit poorly done. HOWEVER, Bard has also been announced and there is already a reveal for him, and i think he looks absolutely great!

Could happen, perhaps he even tries extra hard to wake the Watchers just to buy more time. I do think all of your suggestions work but only one i would add is that maybe Xerath would pick Syndra since they are kinda pretty similar, only problem is she is somewhere unknown in the world but likely still around Ionia, besides her tho not sure who it could be, besides them just introducing a whole new champ. Corrupted side tho, Trynd and Trundle do work very well for freljord, for Shurima maybe they could do Kai'sa since thats what they are going for and maybe Qiyana? Dunno just dont think any of the ascended should be touched or Rammus and Skarner, which kinda only leaves the Ixtal people as options from the area, although maybe Zyra could work pretty cool too? Sure would give her some new lore at least plus would be cool to see how Void does at corrupting someone who is both a plant and a human.

Whelp went ahead and doublechecked, and yea that is everyone.

Edit: And just as i think Bard is everything today, i go on youtube and find the new bel'veth cinematic too, so yea i guess Kai'sa really will be the first one of the corrupted champs
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Oh, that could definitely work. Disco Malph would work, as Disco is the antithesis of music. Could Kindred perhaps work as the ADC? Or Maybe Aphelios. Could spin a fun story with the latter being he used to have a great voice or something and it was taken away and now his "sister" promises to return it in exchange for his services.

Like NWH definitely wasn't perfect (the whole spell to make people forget Spider-Man was dumb) but I really enjoyed it once the other Peters showed up. And, yeah, Willem Dafoe was perfection. I did like getting to see Doc Ock again and I thought Jaime Fox's Electro was pretty good this time.

I do like the idea of a separate board for overflow ephemeral units, maybe capped at 4 of them? I'd almost like to see a card that allows you to keep one or two ephemeral units as long as they didn't attack (probably a shadow isles unit... Necrit perhaps?) that way you wouldn't see ephemeral strategies getting spliced into everything.

I'd say requesting the rest can't hurt. I plan to try to get all the regions added as well so we can at least be able to set up where conflicts happen. I'll def add Summoner's Rift so that can act as a place that automatically has the 5v5 MOBA rules without having to type them in if we wanna do that.

OH MY GOD! I am saving up my wild card tokens right now!!! I need the Bard and I will make a deck for him and play only it! I will say his art looks a little off... Like the mask is slightly too small by like 10% or something. I do love the chimes and I hope we get a bunch of Meep variety!

I guess he could also just sabotage Bel's efforts by like informing the parties of what's going on or something. Xerath is living energy trapped inside the remains of a magic coffin... It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think he can locate someone with innate magical abilities like Syndra. I will say it makes 100% sense for Ornn to pick Braum and Voli hates Udyr, so he'd probably go with Sej? I actually really like the Zyra idea! She's due for a new skin and the void corrupted plants would be super cool. I also think Nidalee could work as well.

I saw that! Real ominous stuff. I don't mind the humanoid version of Bel as much now, as it reminds me of an anglerfish lure type thing now. Still not a fan, but I'm okay with it now.
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Kindred could work yea BUT, i love the Aphelios idea much more, especially since it kinda changes their normal dynamic in a more comedic way as long as its taken that way, if we went full comedy with it Aphelios could just be quiet because he is under Alune's contract to only do it during performances as to not waste his voice.

Yea it was more so just a movie one watches to enjoy due to well, mostly in my case Tobey, Doc Ock and Green Goblin, partly Amazing Spiderman too cause honestly, i like the Tom Holland spiderman the least out of the 3 of them, he always kinda relied too much on Tony so now that he isnt around anymore he lost a lot of what made him entertaining to me.

Oh, yea yea perhaps an extra card, maybe they could just make a new champion that allows the entire ephemeral thing through an origin? That way we wont see Viego and Hecarim running only ephemeral spam. Although only problem with that is that, well if any champion should have that origin its most definetely Viego.

Whelp gonna go add Draven and Vayne in there too then, and yea for sure all of them would make for good additions imo, very nice that you thought about it.

He does look a bit more "chonky" due to the smaller mask and i do prefer his regular splash look but hey its still great to see him in there nonetheless, really wasnt expecting it either, definetely will try to make a deck for him myself whenever im done with the Azir idea. (Assuming i dont like the next added champ more)

Yea well to be fair he probably could, i just really doubt she is even gonna get considered cause she really doesnt get mentioned almost at all in the general lore. Braum sounds good yea and if it would be anyone then it would be him, but i still feel kinda like he would maybe just prefer to upgrade the weapons of anyone who is fighting the void rather than going for that, just cause he likes to be a lonely ram. If anyone then yea Sej for sure however, not sure how that will pan out considering Sej will seemingly go onto Voli's hit list in the near future too, at least if we go by what the next likely steps in their lore are going to be. Nidalee could definetely pull of an extremely good corrupted-cougar look in her ult, plus if those two were the ones from "shurima" they would be quite unexpected options that still make sense and give them actual new lore.

I dont overly like the humanoid form either, i just find it okay purely cause of that reason, if she was actually humanoid in her appearance now that would be ass. Still tho, in game i think her real form looks amazing, the only thing that strikes me a bit off is that she has a REALLY REALLY huge model, maybe even the biggest one yet (not counting cho'gath)
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Ooooo, I love that idea for Aphelios. He just needs more skins as I love his concept and getting into the goofier/more comedic elements definitely are a draw for me. Oh gosh, now I'm wondering if Bel'Veth could corrupt his link with Alune and corrupt him that way...

Yeah, I don't really like Tom's Spoder-Man that much either. I never liked the narcissistic billionaire being the roll model for him, although I did like the other Peters getting to fill that role, especially Tobey's. I had kind of hoped we'd get to see Captain America train SM, but alas they had to give that character the worst ending possible.

Okay, good, I'll upvote em (I think I'm the only one doing that again...). Okay, I'm happy you like the Summoner's Rift idea... I was kinda wondering if it sounded stupid, lol. I'll request it and Bel once we get a splash screen for her.

I don't mind chonky Bard, but I just feel like this batch of champs have been a little off model except maybe Jhin... I really do think Azir looks like a lot of fun tbh. Definitely feel like he needs a deck dedicated to himself and he can't really share the spotlight.

I mean, I know a lot of people that like and play Syndra, so I don't think they'd mind her getting a new lore infusion. Maybe Ornn could forge armor that the other's imbue with their powers, like when he made the Rune Armor for Voli? On the condition that those items only keep that enchantment until the crisis is over. Might work to build some animosity there as well if it's Voli's suggestion. I'd also love to see the animation for Nid's spears be her like forming them in her hand, at least for her Q, but yeah, they'd be super unexpected and a welcome addition to their skin line ups.

Yeah, the model def seems too big and her auto attack animation is freaking hilarious with her little fin slaps. I really hope they change that...
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That is one thing i feel Riot doesnt do enough of, just giving very very silly skins for serious champions, they dont even do april fools skins anymore after all : / . Hmmmmm, it could likely be possible, void has affected souls in the past so definetely possible, plus would be nice cause since his release his lore didnt really get much of an update.

I will absolutely agree on that one, i was never much of a Steve fan but his ending was complete and utter ass.

Thanks thanks, and yeeea it is taking a while again but yknow, il wait for like a week more or so and then i will try asking someone cause, yea. Nah nah its a pretty good idea i very much like it, im sure in the future i will suggest some absolute mind boggling ideas in comparison. Oh speaking of that, not only did we get her splash but she also has a universe page now along with bio and short story, both of which are fairly good imo but nothing too amazing for now. https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/champion/belveth/

I think Jhin looks very good as far as art goes but his level up animation feels a bit sub-par (Only for new level up animation standards) and i also doont really like his new voice, not cause its bad not at all, but just cause the previous one was legitimately perfect. True yea, i will say tho the deck i would want to make the most is a Renekton and Nasus deck, BUUUUUUUUT, i think ingame they are just far too opposite so it would never actually work unfortunately...

Well she is my 4th most played champ by a longshot and also my 3rd favourite one overall so i would be all for it myself, i guess considering who they picked in the sentinels of light event anything is possible so its just best to wait and see. Ohhhh, yea perhaps Voli would suggest it so Ornn would be very apprehensive about doing it, maybe that could even be what causes the void to have an outbreak in freljord as nobody was ready enough, but after the outbreak Ornn would see its the only option, something along those lines at least. Especially if her spears are more so semi-living organisms or extensions of her own being? Void in general has a lot of potential, especially when the champ has 7 abilities i suppose.

It is a bit odd and, not really how i expected her to fight but, yea for sure id decrease her size by a fair margin, id make her model a bit bigger than sion or volibear but also not this big.
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Sigh, I wish they'd bring back the goofy skins as they're just a lot of fun, especially on super serious champs. Yeah, Voidborn are supposed to be able to affect souls, so it should be possible. I really like his concept and it would be really cool to see him get some time in the spotlight. And his freakin void weapons would be so cool.

Steve was my favorite until Endgame happened. Just completely shit on his story arc and kind of made him guilty of incest...

I swear, every time I say something, they decide to drop a new update. The splash looks really good, although I hope they release an alternate with her in her monstrous form. This one suffers from the head being too far in the corner for a good profile pic.

Yeah, I mean the animation's okay, not bad by any means. I just watched Bard's and it's another that I think is just okay. I'm excited he's getting a lab deck though. That's my favorite way to practice a champ. I could see that deck working, but yeah, Nasus needs more of a dedicated kill deck. I've had some success with a Renekton/Vi deck that's hyper aggressive.

I mean, if they're wanting to grab 1 or two champs from each region, she makes the most sense. I also thought a Void Corrupted Veigar could be cool. Like maybe he tries to confront Bel and she finds him to be intriguing or something. Anything that gets the Freljord storyline rolling is good in my books, especially if we build animosity between the factions. Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking of for Nid! Be really cool if her traps were like little Vel'Koz like starfish too. The Void has such a varied yet consistent aesthetic, so I love getting to see it used. I kinda hope Malz gets an upgrade skin like Thresh did.

Just so silly to see her just slappin people. Yeah, it's just so awkwardly large. I'd say it probably needs to be around those sizes, yeah. And it's not like she couldn't stretch herself for her abilities if they need specific hit boxes.
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I aint really that big on Aphelios if anything i find him as one of the champions im completely neutral on but the idea would be very good yes, plus he is likely the best candidate to get corrupted as far as Targon people go.

Yeeeeeeea i can imagine why you dislike Endgame then cause if i also liked him as much, for sure would, i didnt overly like what they did to Thor too but at least he was with Korg, overall not nearly as bad as the hand Steve got dealt.

That will very likely be a problem yea, um, they are already also releasing her on wild rift so maybe she will have a different splash there, wouldnt be the first time they've done it after all.

Yeeea i think the idea of him going through various portals and events is very cool but its just not long enough, and also like it doesnt have enough of a "catchy" ending. I see i see, only time i ever used Vi was when i just made a deck with only piltover champs, it was not a good deck at all : /. But it was fun so worked well. Also, uh Annie is seemingly the next one, i never would've expected Annie, not in a million years, after her being picked i think legitimately everyone has a shot of getting into LoR.

What if Veigar found a couple voidlings that he managed to make his minions because Bel'veth didnt care enough for them, which naturally excited Veigar a lot as he was just ready to become the true master of evil! But then when he tried ordering them to attack Bel'veth The Tiny Master of Evil quickly got swarmed by all of them, just think he wouold need a bit of a comedic entrance to the event really. Oh yea a mini Vel'koz-like voidling that buries itself under the ground, with only bits of its tentacles lurking outside cause needs to be visible. Would be nice but hey im happy he is just becoming relevant again in the lore at least, that alone is plenty enough

In Wild Rift her model is much better really, size wise at least, so maybe they lower it in main game too but oh well

Edit: Whelp, Bel'veth's ingame abilities were actually revealed now too and i guess i am disappointed? Firstly cause i hate true damage as a concept but also cause, i myself personally just really dont think an attack speed focused playstyle suits her, should've been a lot more about her ult (which looks dope) and the voidlings
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I will say, I am someone that likes Aphelios hypothetically. Practicality and game play wise, I think he sucks butt. But, yes, if we want one corrupted champ per region, he's the best choice for Targon. I do hope we actually get some rep from Piltover/Zaun as I don't think they got any rep in Ruination.

Like, it was cool seeing Cap get Mjolnir, but him becoming an incestuous hypocrite hurt. Oh, yeah, Fat Thor sucked. I don't mind some humor, but his whole goofy goober act really gets on my nerve quick. I feel like humor for Thor and Ilk should come from the absurdity of what's happening instead of them just cracking jokes.

Hopefully, yeah. I watched the gameplay video Surrender had and I'm kinda on the fence. There's just a disconnect between visuals and animations for me.

See, I like Zoe's well enough and it has a fun finish, but Bard's just kinda fizzles for me. Oh, yeah, Vi works great with any deck you're trying to be aggressive with and play a fair amount of low costed cards, as she can become a monster real quick. I saw Annie was coming and, ngl, I really like what they've shown off. I think she's gonna get paired with Swain quite a bit. One thing I will note is that it's kinda lame that Tibbers doesn't appear to do anything if Annie dies. Maybe he could strike an enemy and then die?

That would make sense for him, as he's shown himself as perfectly capable of taking over diminutive creatures. (Side note, but we're getting a bunch of meep creatures, where are the rest of the minion types?). I like that idea quite a bit, but I can see Bel being "impressed" with his ability to take control of her minions and thus offers him a boon or she'll destroy his mortal form. That could also play into Veigar's tendency to self sabotage and do good in the end. Yes, that is exactly what I'm thinking for Nid. She was the first champ I got into Gold with way back when, so I like getting to see her get lore. Maybe Malz will finally shed his human shell, as if you read his stories it appears that is acting as something an inhibitor for him and whatever he is inside is trying to escape.

Oh, well that's better at least. Yeah, no I don't like the majority of her kit except maybe her ult like you said. With how it's currently set up, I feel like she's gonna be a real degenerate champ.
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We only got uhh, Ada and Dess iirc which are just, two fairly random and irrelevant Sentinels, they just kinda got corrupted and thats it really, soo yea. Not sure who id pick from piltover/zaun tho, maybe Singed would be interested on trying to experiment with void so we could get a partial corruption sorta deal for him and someone else?

I do agree with both takes so, yes.

Uhuh, after seeing even more gameplay i dislike it well, even more than before.

Likely yea, Annie can probably work in any aggressive style deck tho but Swain could work especially well. But yea she is more or less perfect besides the whole tibbers part, really wish they added a near useless last breathe effect thats more so just there as a nod to it than anything else.

Would be funny if somehow in the end he accidentally is what stops her from destroying everyone, like idk maybe because he is flaunting his own borrowed power to some other yordles Bel'veth cant access it which causes her to be just barely defeated. Perhaps they can edit his appearance to look even less human than now, with more of it being made of void energy rather than flesh, that could be a good start i suppose.

Oh yea for sure agree with that sentiment, i think she will be absolutely disgusting to play against as she can easily reach high levels of attack speed and with fair parts of her kit being true damage i cant imagine its gonna be fun at all, especially since she has a long range stun and 4 dashes to dodge abilities.

Seemingly someone only nuked Karma from the requests for now, which is a bit weird cause id expect everyone would get hit if it was intentional, perhaps just someone missclicked but oh well il go and add her back : /
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Oh, yeah, that's true, but I more meant actual champions. Singed was actually one I was thinking of. Maybe he gets some void goo or something and tries to make a new serum of it for himself and that's how his corruption happens, but his mind is still partially intact. Warwick's another one I think could be fun to corrupt. There's no one from Piltover I think would be fun to corrupt outside of maybe Camille because there' some cool stuff you could do with her having void beast legs.

I just don't like her slapping people... It just doesn't feel regal or intimidating and instead comes of as slapstick.

Maybe if Annie dies, Tibbers could initiate an attack and then die regardless? There could be some neat ways to play around it while it still being a benefit to the user. Idk, I just love when flavor and mechanics intersect.

I mean, that is a very legitimate way she Bel could be weakened and would play into Veigar's character quite well. And he could then keep what was left of his void shell to study, which could leave the door open for a new Void invasion. They'l def have to keep Malz's overall silhouette, but yeah making him full monstrous and intimidating would be so awesome. Just absolutely radiating that void energy like he's in an episode of DBZ.

The infinite scaling attack is just so ridiculous! There needs to be a cap, even if it's something like 5.0, especially when it's paired with true damage, like you said. I do think the dash directions having an individual cooldown is a cool idea, but I wish it hadn't been on her. On a related note, I was not expecting Battle Boss Bel'Veth... I'm not overtly impressed with it as it feels kinda drab.

I saw that! One of my Sentinels of the Multiverse characters went down too, so idk what happened there. I'm gonna add Bel'Veth and Naga to the request list. I'm off this coming week, so even if it becomes a deluge, I'll have plenty of time to work on the characters.
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At thirty once again.

I would say general reactions from each nation would be enough, even if it was like a single panel of Swain marshalling his troops or something along those lines while another shows the Demacia crew cleaning up would be enough.

Yeah... I haven't seen the show, but a lot of people seem to hate it. I mean, SW just has so many diverse factions that even if they were just recruitable for any faction if you owned the planet could be really cool. Like I'm thinkin the Chiss, the Hutts, the Mandalorians, just there are so many to pick from and could help create a very diverse campaign.

OMG, that Ruined GP looks freaking incredible! He was such a good boss fight, I'm surprised they took so long to implement it. Yeah, they look a little off in the framing maybe? Not sure. I do kinda like Sej's skin, but any that sees multiple characters changed usually gets a like from me (like for Nunu or Zyra).

Um, yeah, he's nuts. Honestly, I think all of the aspects are solid tier 3s with Panties being the highest of them. Taric's hard to read, though. I will say, Diana and Leon'as aspects they draw power from are the strongest, but they're relatively new to it and the Warrior leans more into the combat capabilities.
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Yea yea like, just seeing Swain or Jarvan order things around to see there are actual reactions from the nations, after that id even be content with a random line in the later chapters such as idk, Graves saying "He heard Noxus is gathering an invasion" or something, doesnt need to be that exactly but just something mentioning what the factions are doing. In an ideal world, we would see the nations change when we get to their chapters cause i mean for example, in Freljord we had, Vex and Olaf having a snowball fight for most of the time, which is funny and stuff but, its pretty bad overall considering its the only thing we got instead of for example showing Sej and Ashe make up a temporary alliance to fight the mist.

Its, pretty boring but more problematically so its kinda just shit in terms of writing, i also really dislike that Boba Fett didnt even appear for 2 episodes at all, rather they were just Mando episodes but alas. Yea yea, i will say tho, i do quite like that on certain planets there are civilians which fight for one of the factions, thats a cool addition. Probably favourite ones would be geonosians, because the starting mission in BFII with them is still one of my favourites overall.

Yeap, i really really love the Naga in his ult, actually such a sick little detail that i just love, and ye kinda suprised myself tbf, especially due to how succesful The Ruined King was. Ah i see, yea fair fair, the only one i think is really really bad is Senna's one, truth be told id rather get Vancouver Amumu in a box over it, at least the Amumu one is a meme, but yea uh really really dislike the Senna ones, her worst skins by far imo.

Yea more or less, Leona and Diana have the strongest aspects but Pantheon is the only one who can use his aspects full power since well, his aspect is dead so its his power technically. I do think he might be tier 4 depending on some stuff i need to re-read but yea, for sure solid as hell tier 3. (He did fight Viego 1v1 in the Sentinels of light event, granted he lost but yeeeeeeea.)

Riot is also planning really heavy changes for Swain, they are trying to shift him back into laning which i excited as all hell about as an ex-Swain main, AND, his ulty will be much more important now similarly to before, as its much lower CD while he can also technically keep it permanently up for as long as he is draining 1 enemy at least.

Edit: Just got fully done with Zilean, gonna leave Fiddle for tommorow just added image for now
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Yeah, some kind of aknowledgement that this was, y'know, a world changing event and things can't just revert to the status quo like before. And yeah, seeing the foes come together for even an instant would be good. I mean, they all should be smart enough to realize working together is in everyone's long term best interests, especially Ashe.

Wait, the title character didn't show up for two episodes!?! WTF!?!? Oh yes, I did like that, maybe there could be factions that only recruit for a specific side. It'd be even cooler if there was a Civil War era and a Clone Wars era and that would shift accordingly. Like the Geonosians obvs fight for the CIS, but in the Civil War era they'll fight for any non-empire faction due to the whole genocide thing.

I wonder if we'll get Ruined skins for the other protags of The Ruined King too. Wasn't a huge fan of the Braum one, but Illaoi and Ahri's looked great. Honestly, Senna's just doesn't look different enough from her standard fair. Like, they went too safe with it. Sea Dog Yas looks kinda neat, almost like he got the Pyke treatment.

Well, that makes sense. I can see the argument for 4 then, but we know he can't surpass Viego, so that gives you a nice limit. I'm workin bits and drabs on Leo and Diana for the moment. Still gotta read through all their lore.

For Zilean, I'd add maybe low memory manipulation (to represent the experience giving he does) but that's all I can really think of as a possibility.
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Mhmm, i would also love if we got Ornn and Voli teaming up again, both hating it of course but teaming up nonetheless, oh id love that soooo much.

Yeap, well tbf he appeared in one of those for around 10 seconds in background and didnt say one thing, memes aside yea the two episodes were fully about Mando and Baby Yoda training with Luke. Oh, yea yea, different timeframes would be amazing, heck id even take the ones with First Order and the entire sequels thing.

Would be cool tbf, and id be all for it, perhaps even an alternate MF ruined one since well, quite a difference in appearance, although i doubt they would ever do that but still nice to think about. Yea honestly, as odd as he looks, i think he is my favourite alongside GP, idk something about it just works for me.

Yea cant be above, at best he gave him a mid diff fight since we know he lost but most of it was offscreen, we did hear them clashing for a little while as the Sentinels climbed Targon tho but yea. Aight cool cool, feel free to inform me when they done of course! I think i might re-read Panth's stuff one of these days just to make sure cause it could be important for a fair number of champs. (Including Viego cause he did do some crazy shit in the Sentinels event such as reviving the Constellation of War but, i need to check if it actually got fully destroyed or not, which is in Panths lore)

Oh, yea that works, thanks a lot for the heads up, gonna add and finish him then

Edit: Edited around Jax a bit since re-read his story alongside Zil, had to remove some stuff from before, ended up a bit low tho cause imo for sure he should be higher but ye, the "bruiser" problem on here same as trundle i guess
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Maybe like Anivia could broker a temporary truce. If we are getting a Void event, I can hardly imagine the Freljord going unscathed by that event.

Oooooo, so that's where creepy CGI young Mark Hamill came from! I've been kinda disconnected from SW since The Last Jedi was... the Last Jedi. But, yeah, as many eras as possible would be great and maybe in Skirmish mode you could do any faction against any other. Be super cool to see the CSI vs the Rebels or the like. Maybe if we're lucky there could be the Old Republic too. Honestly, I'm surprised we never got a Clone Wars era sequel to EaW as it's the perfect era for it.

Yeah, I really prefer the Ruined King Ruined MF over the in-game one. Matched Viego's aesthetic better. Braum to me just needs some edits to the moustache/eye brows. And a ruined Poro too.

I would've worked on them more today, but I was out today and wasn't feelin the editing. We'll cross that bridge when we go through an update the blank champs. I think I have Diana done, but obvs still working on Leo.

Yeah... the raw strength characters suffer here...
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Yea, watchers and all that after all, one way or another i do expect, Shurima and Freljord to be the most important ones for this year, and then a bit less so Ixtal and maybe Noxus and Demacia. Doubt the void event will deal much with bilgewater and shadow isles, both cause no real connection and because they were kinda main focus last year.

Yeeap, thats the place alright. Oh, yea id love that, wish BFII had that option too, id have loved if it even had a 4 way rumble option in the galaxy conquest mode, eventho its obviously impossible as all hell lore wise it would be really fun. But yea uh true, i am suprised about not getting that too, there is a fairly good mod that puts the stuff back into the clone wars era but ye, only a mod rather than the full thing.

Honestly i havent even seen how Ruined Braum looks but now upon looking at it, yea i would say so for sure, they kinda changed his facial hair a bit too much imo so it makes him look, not braum enough, definetely so without the Poro. Overall Ruined King Ruined MF is probably my favourite ruined skin appearance wise, that includes the main game skins too, although Ruined Karma is also very good.

Yea nah completely understandable, heck i dont feel like working on Fiddle right now so i just wont heh. And as i say that after checking around they do both seem to be done. And well truth be told they both look amazing so great job!
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Maybe if they focused on Freljord/Shurima this year, the next could tie into a war between Demacia and Noxus that's instigated by Mord and Unbound Thresh perhaps? And yeah, let the Slaughter Docks rest, those isles have seen enough blood shed for a while.

Oh, I loved Galactic Conquest! And who cares about canon, I just wanna do what if scenarios. If that White Clad Vader toy promo is a portent for an Infinities TV show, maybe that can happen. I did play that mod and it was good, but EaW really wasn't made for 2 large armies clashing. More 1 big army and 1 smaller army fighting.

Yeah, Braum'd need a rework, but I think the rest were near perfect. MF's is the best, agreed, but I do love Ahri bound in chains to Viego's will. Karma's good, but I do like Ruined Shyv too.

Yeah, hard to edit profiles if you're passed out, but yeah, we all need a lil R&R. Let me know when you've finished off the Fid meister. Cool cool. I'll go ahead and finish the lovers and request Aphelios, Zoe... and Skarner!
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Oh, yea id love that, maybe we can even include the demon co into the mix so we can get more info on all of them plus Raum, cause yea i would quite like more about the bird demon and Swain. Either way that could be a good split, perhaps Ionia could also technically get included there with maybe them fully pushing out Noxus or whatnot.

Yep same same, i still remember that the first great friend i made was actually over BFII galactic conquest, first year of primary school both me and the guy i "had" to sit with didnt talk much but once we figured out we both loved the game i ended up coming over to his house and we played it co-op the entire day until the galaxy was ours, good memories alright, still friends with him too and even baited him into league a couple years back. Yea it was a really good mod but, just as you said alright, alas tho perhaps in the future we get that EaW 2 but i do doubt it.

Yea, honestly the only ones i dont like are, Braum, ESPECIALLY Pantheon, i think they butchered Panth, and Draven is okay, i like that he still looks very Draven-esque but he also feels the least ruined out of everyone if that makes sense? But yea other than those 3 i quite like every other one.

Will do, you can probably expect him to be done sometime tommorow. Ah yes, our favourite crystal scorpion needs his due! Still suprised he was the one that won the rework vote, but more importantly so, where the heck is Udyr by now? Some people are saying he could be coming out in 12.9 (in 2 patches) but havent seen any actual proof of that rather just, people theorizing off release dates and whatnot.
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Maybe Ionia finally pushes them out due to the confusion from the Ruination and Swain's power base becomes shaky, so he looks to invade Demacia who he thinks is weakened enough for him to at least take a few provinces from. And the whole time he's being fed info to drive him in that direction by the Black Rose? That could work well enough as a catalyst for the conflict.

Ah dang, that sounds super fun. I never got to play coop BFII... That's great! I did make a couple of great friends with World of Tanks, but nothing that long lasting. I doubt we'll see it anytime soon, unfortunately. The great publisher overmind has decided RTS's are unprofitable and can't be allowed. πŸ˜₯

I'll agree, Panthron just looks... strange and almost uncanny. Draven just looks like he didn't change enough? I think that's it. I'm looking at the skins now and apparently Sea Dog Yas is canon. He apparently teleported from the Freljord to Bilgewater to be an avatar of Nagakabouros to protect the people...

Take your time as always. Loke Skar Skar. I am too, I like his kit pretty well. Honestly as long as his sting grab is kept intact, they can't screw him up too bad. Uh yeah. They've felt confident enough in it to release it to LoR, then where the hell is the LoL release??
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Mhm, i can also see Ionia getting a bit of an upper hand because perhaps more people would join Irelia and actually fight against noxus, seeing how balance only brought ruination, and it even corrupted Karma soooo i can definetely see that being a factor. And yea Leblanc and co manipulating stuff works. (Now we also sneak in Mordekaiser returning somewhere and perfection!) Tbf Morde coming back would probably be a bit too much, and i dont think he will anytime soon cause, that would be Viego 2.0 essentially.

Oh yea co-op is incredibly fun, just doing absolutely brain off cheesy strats against the AI always makes things more fun, or, having 1v1's as "heroes" on that Tattooine hero gamemode. Ye kinda same as far as WoTs goes, was fun tho. Oh, yeeeeeea rip, i guess no more of that unfortunately...

Wait what? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah that sounds more wack than Lucian making a deal with Thresh (Which did actually happen). But yea no uh, i really hope thats not actual canon, the skin does look pretty cool and connection with Naga only makes it better but only as long as its not actual canon cause, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaa.

I think they mentioned they would try to keep his ulty the same but basically everything else could change completely, so fingers crossed for Skar Skar. Dunno, maybe they want to space his release out a bit more so that things dont get overwhelming, considering Zeri and Renata got added "recently" and all that.
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Well, yeah, Karma's voice would definitely be weaker then. Morde coming back could maybe be the event after? Like the war put Swain ina precarious enough position that he's exiled and allows the Black Rose to take power, setting up the revival of Mordekaiser?

Oh, dang, the Tattooine hero mode was the best! I loved being General Grievous and just being a tornado of death! SW is just so rife for good video games and I wish publishers could figure out that making some medium-budget titles for niches can be profitable. Like, I would buy a remaster of EaW with updated graphics and everything in a heart beat, but alas..

So, this is the bio that comes with the skin:
"Empowered by the Buhru during his fight against Viego of Camavor, Yasuo made an unlikely champion for the children of Nagakabouros—his obsession with past events flew in the face of everything they believed in. Yet even the mangiest sea dog has his day, and Yasuo stood against the forces of darkness, emerging triumphant."
Which makes me think this is Yas in Ruined King after they received the blessing of Naga. If that's true, maybe we'll get a similar skin for Braum and crew as well. Lord knows Illaoi and Pyke are desperately short on cosmetics.

Okay, good, cause I love the Ulty. I don't really have any problems with his kit outside of seizing the map points is a nuisance. I'd hope they'd do Udyr's kit release first, honestly, as his is the most archaic and in need of the love. And we know what he looks like, soooooo. And hey, throwin a couple rocks into the pond at once is okay with me. (says the person that mainly plays TFT)
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As a Swain enjoyer hearing him get that clapped is disheartening but if Morde is ever to come back Swain is either dying or getting exiled, soooo second it is. (Then we get a majestic Noxus civil war with Swain heroically returning with 2 demon hands instead of just 1!)

Ah over here i always Kenobi cause well, i love Kenobi, favourite in SW for sure. But yea uh, as far as series go SW is easily up there in game potential. I can see literally any game being made and still fitting into SW well.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i see, i think that could possibly be it, and i mean, it does add up i guess. One way or another it sure as hell is plenty better than him teleporting from Freljord and then getting chosen by Naga. And yea ofc id always be up for more lore connected skins, and yea those two need them, especially Illaoi, i dont think Illaoi has even 1 good skin right now, at best "Resistance Illaoi" is okay but personally i dont really like it either.

They should they should, they are just postponing him a little i guess, and i mean tbf considering how much of a visual update they are giving him, and the fact that he will change through at least 4 different stances for each of his skins, it is quuuuite a lot of work. Honestly im completely fine with them being experimental too, Akshan, Renata and Viego are all experimental as fuck when it comes to gameplay but i dont really mind playing against any of them too much, annnnd theeen you have Yone...
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Maybe he could fake his death or something and Sion follows alongside him as a body guard? Then they could return towards the end of the event empowered to retake control of Noxus with the aid of Fiddle and Nocturne who are enslaved by him? Idk, just spit balling.

Oh, I love Kenobi the most as well. Such a great character. I would love a game where you played as a smuggler or something ala Elite Dangerous just for a chance to explore the underworld and such.

The idea of the Ruined King crew being called the Sea Dogs works for me and now I wanna see the rest of the crew in their empowered forms (and then make profiles for them!). When I played Illaoi, I mostly used Void Bringer because it was easier for me to tell where the tentacles are, as her base skins tentacles are virtually invisible to me. But, yeah, she needs a new skin, but the Cosmic one isn't bad. Aphelios really needs one too. Surprised he hasn't gotten a PROJECT or PsyOps one, as he's tailor made for those settings.

That is fair, I suppose. Especially bc Spirit Guardian is gonna have to look even cooler. I'm hoping there's more combo potential between the forms, like them granting specific bonuses to the forms you switch between. Idk, I want it to be cool. We'll call Yone an outlier alongside Yuumi, cause I usually like the gimmicks they come up with. Or Aphelios... Who got added, hooray! I also saw Camille got approved, finally!
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Mhm yea, i imagine Darius would likely follow Swain too. And ye that could work too, perhaps they could even make it so that Swain knew Mordekaiser would return, as such now he will try to seal him back but more so on his terms. Either way would be nice to see more region to region interaction, and well big region changing events too ofc.

Mhm, hey just give us a Han Solo game, sort of an adventure where we go around looking into some of his earlier jobs with Chewie and whatnot.

All for it, unforunately if they do actually release them, i think it will take quuuuuite a while, cause yea they always release in batches. Honestly, kinda ture, especially since her hitboxes are already kinda wonky, personally though i only played illaoi 3 times, and i think gameplay wise she might be my least liked champion by far, i especially hate the W because i keep thinking its an auto attack reset but its not so it feels extremely janky to me. It has been a little while since Aphelios got a skin hasnt it, kinda suprising since he was and still is fairly popular, one way or another yea PsyOps or Project would be absolutely sick as hell on him.

Mhm, now im not 100% sure, but i do think the spirit guardian one could look like him in LoR. And yea about form switching, they did say that perhaps there could be form fusions in a way, where idk, if you use bear stance and then pheonix stance you will get a mixed sort of effect, but yea no idea if they will go through with that idea. Drat! She got added the one day i got absolutely rolled by a Camille in top, seems the editors are in kahoots with Riot to make me as miserable as possible! Oh also happy easter of course!
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Maybe Draven too, but he could go either way. It'd make a cool storyline even if it went back effectively to status quo. LB and Vlad would probably go into hiding as well.

As long as there's no Chewie cannibalism and the Solo movie is just ignored in general, I could be down for that.

Maybe they'll release them in pairs or something? As for Illaoi, I mainly played her as supp (surprise) in a lane against a hyper carry because my teammate and I could make their life absolutely miserable. And yeah, the w is a little odd. I mean, Digital/sci-fi weapons would work really well for him. They could also go the Odyssey route too, I guess.

Hmmm, yeah, I'm not sure how it would work. I'm just hoping he's got a bit more complexity to his kit so that he's not essentially a braindead keyboard smash-a-thon. Probably best to let that wound heal a bit then πŸ˜…. I think I have Aphelios fairly well put together. Happy Easter to you as well!
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Mhm yea, i dont wouldnt mind it all returning to a relatively normal status tbh, although the main stuff wouldnt change it would definetely shake up Noxus the same way Ionia got changed by the invasion, so, all for it.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeee, i wasnt overly fond of that movie either, still, its not Rise Of The Skywalker but standards shooould be a bit higher than that.

Yea probably, Braum and Illaoi as one, and Ahri, MF and Pyke as other id imagine. Oh, honestly that sounds like really annoying thing to deal with, which i mean Illaoi E is always annoying, but 2 people beating the souls ass is much worse than just Illaoi. Yea, i think Odyssey could work fairly well but it would need to be a bit more comedic, cause everything in Odyssey is a bit comedic or somewhat "campy" compared to those two.

Whelp, only time Riot made someone even more of a button spammer was with the Mundo rework, and i would say that is their worst rework by far, i loved all mundo, and while i do play this new one he is essentially just a bit worse version of the old one. Eh, getting clapped by Camille (or far more so Fiora) is a common occurance by now, i will finish her up right now, just gotta do something for 30ish mins or so. Honestly i only read his Bio cause i found him fairly boring, but from what i know he looks perfect so great job!

Edit: Done with Camille. (Almost lost my mind at doing it too cause the site had server issues, deleted my damn stats!)
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With how long Demacia and Noxus have been around without alteration or real change, they need the shake up even if it's minor when all is said and done. It'd be interesting to see Rell having to pick between the sides, even though I have a feeling she'd go with Swain. Or maybe she just saves as many people as possible and creates her own little micro country.

I just... Disney SW has been such a mess. I thought VII had a decent foundation to build from, but holy crap did they screw the pooch with VIII and IX. I really wish they had saved Starkiller base for later and made the First Order more of a terrorist organization. Also Finn Rey and Poe all being force sensitive could've been neat. Idk, I have so many notes and so little space to vent.

Braum's poro would also need to be made worthy as well, cause that little guy does work! And yeah, that makes sense for a release order. Even if they just did 1 at a time in that order, I'd be happy. Oh yeah, it was a nightmare for the ADCs that need to farm because as long as I got the E on them, they were gonna take a chunk and get harrassed by the tentacles. It wasn't my best experimental supp, but when it worked, it really worked. I think they could make Odyssey Aphelios work (like they did with Kayn) just play up Alune's guy in the chair persona and make Aphelios seem exasperated by it. I mean, his weapons just work so well for SciFi, any of those lines are a match made in heaven!

I've only ever seen the rework in TFT, so that makes me sad to hear. Mundo was such a fun tanky character for newer players to learn the role. And Pool Party had the banjo! Poor Mundo... Ah, I see. I didn't face off against too many Camilles and the only time I played her was when I was testing her supp possibilities (she could work, but she never really clicked with me). I can see how her and Fiora could be a massive pain in the ass though! I hated laning against Fiora. Thanks! Camille looks good. I'd just change her from Altered to Cyborg and be sure to add her history. Other than that, all her stats look good!
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Mhm yea, aside from Swain usurping Darkwill and Mordekaiser "heading out" nothing too important has changed in Noxus, and then as an extra thing both of those are kinda treated as just background events. Hmmm that is an interesting one, i can see her probably trying to save people herself while reluctantly working with Swain but not fully joining him, perhaps he'd promise her a piece of land and all that if she proved herself and whatnot, having her along would make things easier after all.

Yeeeea, honestly i did like VII a bit, it was nothing amazing but it was a nice start, but yea uhhhhh, then VIII and IX rolled up and whew everything imploded. Real shame too cause i feel at least some parts of it could have been great like Finn cause, a deserter Stormtrooper? Okay yea that has potential, but then yeea he is kinda just whatever really.

Of course, he is the linchip of the entire team, everyone can always put their A game out if there is a tiny adorable poro cheering for them. Oh, yea kinda exactly what i meant, a bit of a Odyssey Kayn style comedy would make Aphelios work great in there. I would say though that overall, it would be nice if we got another completely new sci-fi skinline, it does feel like its been a bit no? (I will not count the battle bunny one as sci-fi)

Yeeeea uh, they kinda just, kept him for most part the same, but he is no longer a Anti-Mage tank, he is just a tank, he also scales so fucking bad, he is kinda just a early counter/cheese pick champ which i never liked as a playstyle. (Plus i dont like his appearance too much cause i think it looks a bit too serious for what Mundo was but, alas) Oh yea Fiora is, "terrific", i think the biggest problem with her is that some of the new items made her easier to play so she is a really common pick nowadays. I didnt add the history?? Well shit i was sure i did, maybe the server thingy got me by suprise there too, but yea uhhh thanks a lot for noticing both, will go edit them right now.

Ruined Thresh also looks amazing, only thing i would change is maybe give him some level of absorption or transmutation as he can absorb souls and even complete people now as seen in his cinematic where he just, kinda puts them in the lantern on the spot, of course he cant really do it to anyone who isnt fairly weaker than him but still. (Oh and something id maybe add for both Thresh' is low or mid accelerated development or reactive power level, cause he gets stronger with each soul he absorbs both in game and in the ruination event, probably low level cause hard to use and seemingly he needs to absorb a lot for it to have effect)
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I could see her accepting that deal in exchange for her assistance against Morde. Especially if she even gets nominal autonomy and then you could maybe set up a small event with Swain attempting to reintegrate her County or something if they wanted a month long event or something.

They really needed to have a plan before they did a trilogy, because it's very clear they had no idea what each movie was going to be. Oh, yeah I loved the idea of a reformed Stormtrooper. Kinda had this picture in my head that Finn was going to start his own version of the Jedi that was focused on helping and protecting the downtrodden members of the galaxy, but I guess him not really mattering in the long run is fine too.

I really wish Braum's poro would get a name so I could give him a profile. He's got feats! Let's see, we have cyberpunk(s), space opera/comedic, whatever space groove is... Maybe something retro futurist in the mold of like Flash Gordon? There's the Headhunter line that could be worked into an AVP style with some horror aliens facing off against them and we could get some space marine types in there too.

Oh, that's lame, I really liked ol Mundo. I also really don't like his audio with all the licking sounds. And yeah, he just looks... weird. Idk why they felt they needed to change his kit (well maybe the w) as it was perfectly functional. Lord, I hate the idea of Fiora dominated top lanes. I dunno how to even rework her to be more balanced too, as she's just such a pain in the ass without goin full cheese against her. It happens, I've forgotten to remove the junk from the hyper links a bunch of times.

I added your suggestions, although I did transformation instead of mutation and upped his power bestowal a tad. I'll update OG Thresh in a bit too. Oh and um... Zoe's nuts. Like absolutely insane. Just prep yourself for her number to be absolutely ridiculous because she has all the warpings. And I'm excited to see where Ruined GP is gonna fall. Such a good boss (I'm also reworking his bio info to add some context from Ruined King).
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Mhm, i would really love of course if the "tried and tested" players get to vote for a side, and the ammount and how good they play determines which side wins. Just this time it would be whether Rell and her "thing" gets to stay independant or not.

Yeap, but well they did change directors mid way through so i guess we should've expected it, still even with that it was quite a jarring change. Yea, like, if something else that was good replaced it? Sure, Finn can stay largerly not too relevant, him getting robbed of his moment where he tried to sacrifice though was disgusting, it would've been a really nice way for him to go.

No mentions of his name even in LoR or anywhere, just "Poro"? Oh, yea id honestly love that idea, i dont even think most of the skins need that many changes cause personally, still like most of them, more so we would need some lore updates for them and boom, would be amazing, at least imo ofc.

Hmmm yea i dont know either, i think she would need a rework to not be incredibly annoying while also not being absolutely shit. But even then i have no clue how id rework her and still keep her as "Fiora", i mean maybe id, hmm, honestly here, keep her 1v1 as strong as it is, but make her teamfights worse, perhaps the vital marks can spawn a lot slower if there is more than 1 enemy around, doesnt affect her laning much, but sure makes it so she actually has to be a duelist in the sidelane.

Mhm i see, yea everything looks completely good. Oh yea uh i expect Zoe to probably be the 2nd highest out of the main canon, maybe only below Bard or Soraka but, dont really think so tbf.Alright alright, just tell me when you finish him of course!
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I mean, I'd take that, maybe even have some kind of exhibition match to decide things. And it wouldn't change too much either way.

Yeah, I really would've preferred him getting the sacrifice moment. There's just so much wrong with the new trilogy that could've been easily fixed if they had just made an outline of the story they wanted to tell. And no resurrecting Palpatine and then revealing it in Fortnite.

I legit can't find any mention of a name for the little guy. Braum only ever refers to him as "little one" and the like in RK, so idk. I think if they just set the Headhunters as going out for the most dangerous prey and then the Hunted skins could pull ideas from the most dangerous aliens in cinema without directly being Alien or whatever. Like Gnar and Anivia would be good candidates for that skin line. Maybe have Gnar reference the Rancor? Ivern could be a funny one too.

Those are all sensible ideas. Maybe make sure her riposte only applies to the first champion it hit? She's just a tough one to do while also adhering to her lore and persona. Gah. I love the idea of a champ that's only really good at one-on-one, but it's so hard to make sure that they suffer in a team fight scenario.

Sooooooo, Zoe might be the strongest based on what I'm reading or at least second (edit after reading dev stuff). Actually she IS the most powerful because she's an aspect and not a host, apparently (the host and the aspect physically fused together in her instance). With the previous host to Zoe, Myisha, she was able to break the ascendance on a large number of the Darkin and kill them. And it's heavily implied that Asol is slightly below her, as he needs her help and needed her protection at one point. She has causality manipulation, fate manipulation, reality warping... It's nuts. She's also a fourth wall breaker. She talks to you in LoR! Ruined GP is finished I think. Especially let me know if his history section reads well. Had to really add to it.
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Well yea, but i guess changing directors would make planing quuuite a bit harder, still yea, should've been done etc etc, cause rigth now, VII is a decent start but its mostly a callback type movie to episode I and III, 2nd movie started the landslide and Palpatine coming back just blew everything into the sky.

Unfortunate... hopefully the poro gets the justice he deserves so he can be rightfully added along the legends! Oh Gnar as a rancor could be great yea, plus Ivern does need a more serious skin, he does have old god but he is once again a tree there, would be nice to have a serious one that also mixes stuff up.

True, but thats why i do think uh, well, i think champions should have something they are strong at, but not to the point Fiora is cause right now in a 1v1, unless you are playing a 6 item Jax that can also outplay her riposte nobody has even remotely a chance. So for her to be balanced her teamfights would have to be legitimately dogshit. I think the most ideal scenario is, she is still very strong as a 1v1, but it gets toned down a bit, and then her teamfighting can be kept okay too. Cause i will be honest, champions being too good at one thing makes things extremely toxic, new example would be, Kassadin was doing kinda okay, so they are buffing him next patch, but they are only buffing his anti-magic Q shield... sooooo, that only makes him beat AP champs asses even harder but Talon will still oneshot him if he goes to farm a minion, i just really had to rant out on the way Riot sometimes balances things cause yeeea. (It also doesnt help i play only ap champions and tanks, so Kassadin is a nightmare scenario : /.)

Mhm yea iirc it was in the twilight of the gods story, she i think broke the ascenions of 8 of them and then put that entire thing in Sivir's weapon (cant remember the name whatsoever). And i guess tbf she did help him and does kinda protect him... I do think Asol by his nature is >> any aspect, but perhaps now that he is controlled he could be weakened, so Zoe being stronger does make sense i suppose. And yeeeeee, she has a bunch of stuff up her sleeve alright.

Aight now about GP, his history looks great, would not change a single thing and it reads as smoothly as it gets. Everything about it really is great, the only thing i would add is perhaps low level longevity because, considering he is empowered by Thresh and extent the mist, he SHOULD by logic get at least similar traits as everyone else including the random wraiths, but we dont really now... The only real supporting evidence i have for that is that in the sentinels event when MF got ruined, Pyke spent several hours stabbing her and even confirmed that she was dead and off the list, but then she came back fully alive the next chapter, BUT, her case is kinda special from everyone else since she is the only one directly empowered by Viego, rather than being just corrupted, soooo, your call. (Also sorry for long message just really wanted to put everything on my mind there)

With a painful heart i must say everything on Zoe looks great, only thing i would do is add low level homing attack cause her W is fully homing but thats about it... (One day Space Doggy will get his justice!)

I will also go ahead and request the 3 shurimans and Soraka, and tommorow i will ask for at least Seraphine to get looked at cause it has been a while, Jayce and Orianna possibly too so that piltover is done.
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I think they should have made the story about Finn, Rey and Poe as a group instead of just Rey. That way we'd at least have three characters to pivot the story around. Idk, it'd take me a few hours to dissect that corpse to figure out how to rebuild it properly.

I would 1000% play a JRPG with a party full of poros called Poro Quest and there's like a job system and such. Maybe for Ivern they could tap into the realm of Yu-Gi-Oh and draw from the Inpachi storyline and he could be like a cyborg cinder ent. That might be neat and be good for making the hunted characters nice and varied. Maybe tap into Evolve's ideas too?

Yes, that is the exact story I'm referencing. I will agree, if ASol was free of his crown, he would surpass Zoe, but in his current state, he's at her mercy unfortunately. Sad Dragon. I hate she's so powerful, but it makes sense for a Trickster goddess as she has all that power and no attention span.

Okay, I added to him low immortality, as that more represents what you're saying there and normal longevity, as he should live longer. All of what you said makes sense to me, so he got that boost. I did lower his intelligence a tad, as his thinking process seems to have degraded slightly in the fight.

As I said earlier, I hate her being this powerful and really thought she was gonna be around Bard, and maybe a little higher, but nope! πŸ˜₯

Okay, cool. Once all of those are finished we should probably figure out the Ruined champs and the Sentinels and then I think that's it for the canon LoL universe outside of Vilemaw and Nashor.
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I would've prefered that a lot, especially if Finn is the most important of them but ohhh well, at this point fixing star wars is probably an impossibility, hopefully the Kenobi show is good tho cause if that sucks yeeea doubt i will be going into anything Star Wars related thats not a video game.

Wouldnt we all? Couple that with some evil poro as the main villain and easy perfection, perhaps overall goal is to save King Poro or whatnot. Uhhh yea, could be nice, honestly Ivern does have a lot of skin potential, i mean just turning Daisy into who knows what is great by itself, after all they already turned Maiden of the mist into a big cat in Yorick's cat skin, so, sky is the limit really.

Mhm, i liked that story quite a bit, not among favourites cause doesnt really have any champions to carry it but it is very good Shurima lore.

I see i see, yea all looks good.

Yea uh i kinda expected her to be either around Bard levels or up to 100k or so, definetely not this high but yeeeea.

Hmmmmmm, yea i think that should be it, oh and of course doing the profiles that dont have stats atm, you want to start doing those in case everything you were gonna request got accepted already?
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I hope the Kenobi show is good, but at least we know the actor knows how to play the character. They recently put out a figure for the White Darth Vader from Infinities, so I'm hoping there's a show in the pipes for that. What If...? SW edition could be a lot of fun. A coworker and I were discussing it and came up with a ton of fun scenarios.

Maybe it could be like Veigar's poro and it's trying to impress its master? It even has one of those ol timey villain moustaches. Any of the characters that have multiple forms or summons have so much potential. Aw man, now I'm imagining a ultra seijin inspired Ivern that summons a kaiju for aid like Alien Nackle. I just want more skins for the Mecha universe, especially as Crabgot is the only Kaiju.

It was a good story that really helped flesh out the Ascended. Ngl, I'd like cards of each of the ones that died in LoR.

Yeah, I was expecting her to not clock this high, but the more I read, the more I cursed the devs.

I can do those profiles if you'd like. I know you uploaded most of them, so are there any in particular you'd like to do or want me to specifically handle? I need to do Taric and Gragas, so that'll tide me over. Udyr and Skarner are going to stay empty until they drop their updates.

*Edit* Would you like to have one of us do Ruined Champs and the other Sentinels or mix and match?
*Edit2* Rhaast needs a profile too! Should Shadow Assassin get one as well you think?
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Mhm, Ewan McGregor as Kenobi was and hopefully still is the perfect casting. Oh yea it could have a ton of them, instantly coming off top of my head could be a "what if" for Anakin beating Kenobi and maybe even usurping Palpatine soon after. (So he can bring peace, freedom, justice and security to his new empire)

Yep, that does sound about as good as i can imagine, yep, honestly whenever a villain is needed, Veigar or someone who is like him is the answer. Oh yea it might be the only skin but damn, Crabgot is actually a sick skin, both ingame and in splash, (Worse than the pre-rework one but thats a standard nothing can match) One way or another would be great to get more kaiju-esque skins, honestly think Sion could make a really good one, only weird part would be thinking about how to implement his axe.

Yea, although same goes for any lore character with any relevance, Ne'zuk eventually fingers crossed

Whelp the ones that still need updates are: Aatrox, Azir, Fiddle, Gragas, Nasus, Ornn, Pantheon, Renekton, Varus, Voli and Xerath. Out of those you added Varus and Gragas so obviously you can do them, other than that, i will do Fiddle cause im halfway into it anyways, and as far as the rest is concerned the only ones i would really and absolutely love to do are Nasus and Ornn, after all Nasus is likely my favourite all around and Ornn isnt too far away. If you want we can either split the other ones or even better you can just take the ones you like and leave any you dont quite like to me and il get to them after the current requests.

Id say it would probably be the best to mix and match, cause honestly i do think the ruined champions and versions are more interesting so would be unfair if i gave you the sentinels for example, so probably just mix and match unless you actually prefer the sentinel skins by a fair ammount in which case sure thing we can just split them that way.

Oh yes! The great Scythe Darkin needs his respect. And yea we can do Shadow Assassin too, i do quite enjoy adding various versions
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He really is. Brings just the right amount of elegance and wit to the character. Ooooh, now that is a cool idea. Maybe he takes the Clone Army and goes to wipe out the Hutts and other slavers? Commits full genocide on the Tuskens? One I really like the idea of that my coworker came up with is if Maul killed Obi-Wan instead of Qui-Gon and Qui-Gon ends up going the Gray Jedi route and trains Anakin to eliminate the Jedi and the Sith.

I can also see the advanced jobs or whatever being obvious cues for champs, like if you get an archer poro you could spec them into a multi target archer (Ashe), a high single target archer (Varus) or like a close range one that has a little song bird friend (Quinn). Could even reveal at the end it's just been Veigar and Braum playing their version of DnD with Braum being the players and Veigar the DM. Be a really funny scenario. I have always loved Crabgot, it's probably my most used skin for him alongside Battlecast. For a kaiju Sion, I could see them going in an Evangelion route with having them initially trying to grow their own kaiju to fight the invaders and supplementing them with arms and armor. Sion being the first attempt goes nuts and breaks free of their control and they're trying to eliminate it. And honestly, Toho has a couple of humanoid monsters that use tools, so it wouldn't be that big of a stretch either. Lillia could be a cool unexpected one being something like a Mothra figure, but she's hated because she's just assumed to be hostile. Sett's another that could work in something of like a King Kong/King Caesar homage. Illaoi could work and just have the idol/whatever be a part of her physiology. Bard could be some kind of Evangelion horror. I can also imagine skins for Kai'Sa, Kindred, Neeko, Elise, Rek'Sai, Tahm, and Camille. (I know there are some other obvious characters like Susan and Renekton, but they have a ton of skins already)

Yes. He needs a card!!! And Rafen too. He's so important to MF's lore. Some of the mini-bosses from RK could be cool too, like the Yordle that is partially phased out of Runeterra and uses the power to steal stuff.

I'll naturally take care of the ones I uploaded and I have no particular preferences for any of the remaining champs. I see Anivia is empty too and I like her. If you do Ornn and Nasus, I could tackle Renekton and/or Xerath and Voli. I know you like Pantheon as well, so I have no inclination to take him either. I can also see about uploading Nashor and Vilemaw if you don't mind. RK confirmed Vilemaw scales to Maokai as they fight for control of the Island's grove.

Looking at the Ruination event skins, we have 12 total skins if we count Ascended Pantheon. Would this division work for you (and if it doesn't, I'm 100% okay with changes): Von: MF (cause I know you don't like the design) Shyv (cause I love her), Graves, Diana, Olaf, Pyke, Rengar. JLA: Karma, Draven, Pantheon, Riven, Irelia, Vayne.

He has art too on the League wiki alongside the Shadow form, so I think they're valid. I legit only thought of it because I was looking through the AUs and noticed Dark Star Rhaast being the Darkin evolution of Odyssey Kayn. Also found out that Odyssey, Star Guardian and Event Horizon are all connected, which is cool.

*Edit* Just read the champion roadmap and apparently they're reworking ASol's kit. He probably needs it, as he is kinda clunky to use. They also dropped some design concepts for Skarner:

I really hope they keep his crystalline body structure, I really like that. TBH, I don't like any of the proposed designs and especially not the bottom row.
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Yeap, if he can give us even just half the charm he did before then he will do just great. Mhm yea i can probably see that happening, i also do see him not really being able to stay in control for much, dont think he is very cut out to lead an empire to say the least. Oh, never thought of that idea but it does sound pretty good, there really arent enough gray jedi around, and well, there is 0 of them in the movies after all.

Oh yea and ofc after Braum beats him he would be more than gallant in his victory, while Veigar would naturally be really angry about it, but Braum would cheer him up! Ohhh, didnt even think about the possibility of Sion as a mech, which is kind of stupid cause well he does already have Mecha Sion, i guess that skins existance would kinda make the evangelion idea impossible since not only is he a mech he has also gone rogue and crazy with killing humans. Lillia and all those do sound really good, an extra idea i think could work really well is perhaps Rell, mostly because i think a metal controlling transforming mech would be sick as hell, OR, Rell could be a kaiju that controls the metal scraps of the mech's she destroyed, so she is in a way a half monster half mech as she covers herself in it all the time.

Oh yea Rafen for sure, especially ever since Ruined King got released, i will say tho i always imagined him to be sort of an old bearded type of guy but either way he is almost certainly in the top 5 best non-champ characters from league.

Yea feel free to take those three then, and il do Ornn, Nasus and Pantheon, works perfectly fine for me. Mhm mhm, yea you can upload those two naturally, had no idea Vilemaw was even mentioned in the game but hearing details like that really makes me want to try the game out myself. Always prefered Vilemaw over Baron as that big objective, but i guess thats natural since he has been mentioned in the lore. (Plus he looks much cooler, giant monster spider and all that.)

Sounds great to me, kinda amazing how well you split those up considering you managed to both give me my favourite (Karma) while also taking my two least liked ones. (Rengar and Pyke, not only did they do them dirty af in the event imo, but i also dont like the skins themselves whatsoever)

Oh yea they do, iirc the art is from their login screens, cause Riot made 2 for Kayn and i like both of them, Rhaast's more so cause seeing him wreck stuff in Noxus is just beyond cool. Plus i just really like Rhaast, especially Dark Star Rhaast, man was the odyssey event fucking amazing. And yeap they are, iirc pulsefire is also losely connected due to Pulsefire Ez but yea.

Yeeeea a different friend informed about that part of the roadmap, was kinda procrastinating on reading it, really hope they make his gameplay more... "Grand". Cause i really dont think a roaming playstyle suits him well at all, he is a space dragon after all he should be the center of attention!

Yea bottom row looks more like a kaiju skin for him, its far to "extra" for base Skarner, third row on other hand makes him look too Void monstery, especially the rightmost one. If it had to pick one of those i would likely pick the first one in the second row, but even that one doesnt quite strike me as great cause his claws look a bit too big imo.

Edit: And well uh, asked Monster to upvote Seraphine Jayce and Ori yesterday, he ended up upvoting all the league ones, soooo, gonna get started on them, probably Seraphine first then those rest of piltover, and then Shurima. Massive props to him tho, sped up the entire ordeal immensely
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Maybe Anakin's empire turns into something of a warring stats/warlord era of China where there is technically a united government but in reality its a bunch of admirals and generals and sith fighting for Anakin's approval? I guess the Shogunate era of Japan would work as a parallel as well. And with Qui-Gon and Anakin you could see them bringing balance to the force by removing "dangerous" figures and they're like galactic vigilantes.

"Have heart friend, your scenarios are wonderfully difficult and the poros had a great time!" "But true evil, MY EVIL, did not triumph!!" "Then perhaps we go another round?" Oh crap, now that you say that that is a part of the skin line. It could still work, but I don't see it happening then. Oooooh, that could be cool! There's actually a couple kaiju from Godzilla the series they could draw inspiration off of or even the scrapped Berserk who was this alien fluid/flesh thing that used metal to create a protective shell for itself. Could even explain the reason it took that particular shape was because it crashed next to a war memorial or something. That'd be so neat and add a whole lot of variety!You could also explain the horse body being a sort of false body to draw attacks towards to protect the actual creature. There's also always the Seijin route that might be easier, but less awesome. There's also always mecha Rell, but I like a metal controlling kaiju better. How do I contact Riot about these sick ideas??

Yeah, I was surprised he's not a little older, but he still believably feels like he could be MF's dad (figuratively). I am also wondering how to handle Cithria because she has two possible futures.

Will do! What do you think of Varus, Taric and Gragas? I was reading the Varus comics and I did not know he could just rip all of the blood out of a person at will. 😨 You actually fight Vilemaw to aid Maokai in purifying the grove and ngl, it wasn't easy but it sure as heck wasn't hard. I do prefer Vile to Nashor, but that's mainly because I think the moves he uses are more interesting. Always loved triggering him while my team was retreating from a team fight to completely foil the enemy team's pursuit while occasionally getting one or two killed.

I'm happy it worked out that way! I was trying to make sure we got our favorites and avoided our (known) least favorites (like me hating Riven).

I love all of the space/scifi skins, but Odyssey really knocked it out of the part imo. It feels reminiscent to a lot of things without feeling like obvious homages. I feel like Odyssey, Omega Squad and Pulsefire should be the first skin groups for the LoLAU when I get that up. Feel like they illustrate the different setting part the best out of all of them.

Yeah, like he's never felt... right since he dropped. Like I like his kit pieces individually (the galaxy throw and the orbits for example). but they've never really clicked as a coherent whole for me. I would say they need to focus on either the momentum/roaming games style or focus into the orbit area denial aspect, which is the one I'd prefer. I feel like if they want to make a roaming mage that's an aspect/celestial, I feel like Tyari/the Traveler would be a better fit for that.

Agreed, I def prefer the first and third ones in the second row as they make him look/feel defensive and tanky as a guardian character should. The bottom row is actually them playing with the idea of making it to where Piltover captures him and turns him into a Hextech Golem... And I'm like, great, that sounds like a cool skin and shouldn't be the base.

MoNsTeR is always good about that. So happy he got upgraded to Herald. Let me know when you think they're ready for prime time and I'll give em the ol once over.
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Yeap yeap, kinda imagined that same exact thing, the Empire breaking apart into pieces of sorts with him still being the leader but more so figuratively. Does sound pretty good, and they would likely have their work cut out for them, still with Anakin being "the chosen of the force" and all that i can probably see some Jedi even joining their cause, a lot of interesting stuff could happen really.

I got no idea but i do like them ideas as much as you do, especially in Rell's case cause both a sick idea and she really does need a new skin, hasnt gotten one since release iirc which is kinda weird, i expected her to be a fairly popular champion, nothing like Ahri or Ez but for sure among the more popular ones.

Yeeeeaaa about Cithria, i legit have 0 clue whatsoever, perhaps maybe just use her latest version? Idk i never really liked time shenanigans much at all to be honest.

Alright damn you fast but uh, so, Gragas looks good (aside from him being a couple billion points too low ofc) but i would add cold resistance to him cause he is walking almost nude through freljord. Varus looks great but i would maybe add low level transmutation or fusionism (or something along the lines) because he technically fused himself, Kai and Valmar into one body, and Taric himself looks fabelous and gorgeous... just like gems. And yea uh Riot really went all out with the Darkin blood magic, but tbf Vlad does kinda do the same and the only reason he can use blood magic is due to being taught to use it by a Darkin, so i guess we should've expected it. Ah yea i remember the giant web attack, good ol times alright, wish i could've played twisted treeline a bit more before it got nuked.

We all hate Riven in one way at least, for me its gameplay but yeeeee...

Not only is Odyssey one of my favourite space/scifi skinlines its plain out one of my favourite skinlines overall, with Odyssey Kayn likely being my favourite skin? If not its top 3 for sure. But yeap those work great as the first ones, i would suggest battlecast to come along just after them though!

Mhm, i would say that while awesome, his ult did always feel kind of, ill fitting? Asol blasting someone with starlight is grand for sure but, its kinda too much so in the middleground, not great for roaming, dueling or teamfights, its just okay all around. Didnt think id hear that name come along but yea Tyari is for sure a better fit.

Oh a hextech golem? I really really really hope they dont make that his actual lore, with the entire Seraphine thing the poor scorpion is sad enough already, changing him into that would be too much. As a skin idea it is great tho, i think in general the hextech skinline should be more about, monster champs being turned into their robot versions.

For now Seraphine is done and dusted so if you want you can check her, next i will probably go with Ori and Jayce but ye will tell you when they done ofc
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It'd be really interesting to see a character like maybe Thrawn becoming his seneschal and controlling Anakin from behind the scenes. I can also see Anakin only being willing to use Cloned Troopers. Oh yeah, they definitely form a fairly strong order with maybe even Dooku joining them? I can also see Mace especially opposing them.

There's a lot they can do with her, I'm surprised they haven't done at least a couple for her. Just off the top of my head, they could do Riot Rell and have her be like a mounted policeman, Void Rell could be really cool and make her armor and such voidling plate, Elderwood Rell could use wood instead of metal. And Pool Party Rell could have her armor and horse made out of pool noodles. I rewatched her champion spotlight and I don't understand why she's not got at least a minor niche.

I'll hold out on her for now. I guess I could do two profiles for her that are her different futures, but I don't think anyone's chomping at the bit for her.

Added to Gragas and I added both of those to Varus as low just to cover my bases. I love the weird magic man that is Taric. He is truly truly truly fabulous. I was kinda shocked to see Varus just straight up ripping the blood out of people to turn into arrows to murder more peeps. So hardcore! I really cannot wait for them to drop the other two Darkin. Maybe they can be the next threat after Void Mommy.

I will say she's pretty fun to play and not super spammy in LoR, so that's a feather in her cap.

I always played Jinx and Malph in their Odyssey skins. It is just such a solid skin line with a lot of visual variety, although Snowdown Bard is my favorite because I get to make hot cocoa for my teammates and throw penguins at my enemies! Oh my gosh, how did I forget Battlecast, of course that needs to be done in the first batch!

Yeah, I never knew how to properly utilize it. Always felt like a basic ability and not the Ulti for a freakin space dragon. Tyari was just the first aspect host that came to mind as a good pick for that play style, although they might be more supportive? Maybe a host for the Challenger, Destroyer or Messenger could also work? The latter of which could be a fun one, as maybe they'd be able to send lil celestial pups to allies to deliver weak versions of buffs they get. Like they either only last a few seconds or have a greatly reduced effect.

I know, right? That's like the worst possible idea for poor Skar Skar I could imagine! He deserves respect! And yeah, as a skin, it's perfect and I like the aesthetic, especially for like Koggy and Hextech Tibbers is a lot of fun.

The only thing I can think for Seraphine is low level telekinesis because she can use sound to lift stuff and maybe some level of Extrasensory? But other than that, she looks great!
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Bleeedooo weeee.

It's definitely a skin line to consider, as it doesn't seem right to have a bunch of mechas to fight a single kaiju (no matter if it is the supremely powerful Crabgot). I could imagine a Hedorah skin for Zac or Singed (bit of a stretch) could work. King Cesar for Rengar could work too. And hell, Rek'Sai is virtually designed for it, although a reference to Tremors might be more appropriate there. Idk, there's a bunch of cool stuff they could do. Also wouldn't mind some more DnD inspired skins that referenced other classes.

Ah yes, I had seen those get approved. Rell wasn't released when I was playing, but she looks cool. I like them trying to put characters in each region that are opposed to the goals of the region instead of just being another part of it.

I mean, as long as they're playing well and trying to benefit the team, I can't be too mad. I usually only got to mid-high gold, but I will admit off meta picks could be the saving grace for a match (like ADC TF or glorious Tankmo). Ornn could def use some experimentation. I'm sure someone could make mid Ornn work somehow. It'd probably need a specific set of circumstances to function, but that could be really cool to see. I just like champs showing up in unexpected places and working out. Really, if a champ can fill 3 roles effectively, that's good design imo.
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Mhm yea, all those ideas sound good, including the DnD, honestly surpised we didnt get more "typical fantasy" skins, we had a couple with the, Whitebeard Ryze and that entire skinline but they never really went further than that, they were nothing great but i still enjoyed them. New skinlines we could be getting this year arent looking that promising at least for me, already dont like the anima squad ones, or well to be more exact i find them pretty bad.

Rell is cool, kinda not too much of a factor rn but she is a good niche pick. And yea, Noxus was kinda one of the rare regions who didnt have anyone opposing it from its own region so ye. Still what id like to see is some cross region interactions, maybe a champion from Demacia and Soraka teaming up of sorts or whatnot but eh, just spitballing. Just want more region interaction in general tho cause thats always great.

I did play against a full ap zac top just several hours ago and he actually busted my cheeks up. Soooo, if i disagree i would be a bit of a hypocrite. As far as Ornn goes, i can see him being a good counterpick in some mid champs. As far as most random pick i played goes its either Nasus or MF mid. About being able to flex into roles, i do kinda agree but, not quite, ideally id say 2 roles is better more so than 3 since i am semi scarred by the "Graves Meta" we had recently where one would have no idea if he is mid top or jungle. However one can work in a third role too if its only in very situational moments.
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Yeah, I was really surprised they didn't pursue that line more, as it worked perfectly as a 750rp skin line. Just lookin at what's on the PBE right now isn't particularly exciting. Sexy skins are kinda boring, ngl. I prefer the silly skins over that.

Oh yes, I love the interplay between regions. I mean, maybe they could do like a "World War" story line about the conflict between Demacia and Noxus spiraling out of control and we could see full battle attire versions of characters released over a year before Ryze or someone gets everyone to realize it was a distraction for some bigger scheme (maybe a Thresh power play). Idk, I like seeing that kind of stuff.

I've seen that before but never seen it work, so good for that guy! Yeah, no I 100% see your point there and more what I was intending was that they could fit the third role in specific circumstances. Cause yeah, I don't want anyone to be able to wind up everywhere, as that'd make it too hard to accurately build your team. Like I remember when Yasuo first dropped and he could be anything but support and that was hell on earth.

Got the rest of the Demacians up, but I've only done stats for Quinn so far. What do you think?
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Mhm yea, although that could be cause in general, Riot doesnt do skins that are less than 975rp anymore? At least i think they said that, still even then, putting some extra flair on any of those skins and they could easily make them 975 ones, i already like most of them as is, especially the Karthus one, really really like that one. Annnd yea uh, really not overly fond of the new skinlines, (Elden Ring) Pyke looks cool but the Anima squad just doesnt do it for me at all, there can be a place for both sexy and silly skins but it feels like there is much more of the prior ones lately. Although saying that we did just recently get a bunch of new Bee skins, they are okay, i prefered the older batches but still good

Mhm yea same, id even take another invasion or Ionia or even just Yordles interacting with regions. Anythin really. (Or in an ideal world, Xerath attacking both Demacia and Noxus to restore the glory of Shurima!)

Uhuh still like, as far as uh "really situational picks" go, damn, id love if all champions could play in multiple roles. Hell 3 or 4, however many. Much better than just 1. I will also add that, this year with the new items and whatnot, there is definetely more "unexpected picks" around, i think i see something completely random every couple games tbf, and most often works too.

Quinn looks great, well done! (As a top laner i am obligated to say she should be a completely empty and forgotten profile). And yea i noticed the giant upload spree happening, and that we are finally again in 2 digits as far as requests go. I myself have gone and finished Rell and Renog just about now, will wait till tommorow or day after that to request the next champs just to give some more free time for the entire request situation.
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Oh, that's lame. I liked the 750 ones as they gave people the ability to get a skin for a champ they liked without breaking the bank. But, yes, they could easily upgrade those to 975's and maybe include one or two voice lines that reference DnD memes. Yeah, the Pyke one looks fine, but sexy anime skins are kinda over done. The Bee ones are more cute than silly to me, but I can see the argument for both. Oh! Did you see Illaoi got new VO stuff. Including her wanting to see if Braum had... stamina? Thought that was hilarious.

Just natural conflict would be nice. Especially if it's just a "normal" conflict and not Goth Daddy attacking for reasons. And yeah, getting to see the Ascended do stuff would be cool. Maybe to bolster Xerath's forces he could do some "forced" ascensions or something of the like. Then we could get some "ascended" champs without having to make new ones.

Yes, I just want there to be potential for off kilter picks, so I'm glad there is experimentation going on. A stale meta is a bad meta.

Lol, I actually used to run supp Quinn for a bit bc of her vision and blinding stuff. It was not great and usually just turned into a kill lane. Rell looks good and I'd say Rengar just needs low Weapon-Based power because of his knives. And maybe Stealth up a notch, but you have camo and invisiblity, so it's not necessary. Looks great, though and would love to see a Rengo deck in LoR. Yeah, I'm gonna keep my batches to 5 for now after I finish up the current guys I've got.
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Always up for more meme references, eventho i actually never played DnD myself, still uh maybe one day, i have looked into it over time but ye. Mhm absolutely agree on that one, im fine with them existing but it feels like every other skinline is one of those, and since spirit blossom will also apparently make a reapperance this year we only gonna get more. Hmm yea true, it is more cute than meme, UNLESS, we talk about Beekeeper Singed which is just an amazing skin, easily favourite Bee themed one. Lol, no i havent heard it at all, i will go try to find it right now.

Honestly quite like that idea, perhaps some extra champions could even willingly side with Azir or Xerath. Would be also interesting to see Noxus and Ixtal react to Shurima technically being reborn since i doubt either would be that thrilled about it.

Well as long as i dont have to lane against her, very good... Thanks for checking them both, ive added both the weapon stuff and the higher level of stealth, thanks a lot for the suggestions! Oh Rengar deck, i imagine he would probably have some mechanic similar to his passive? Perhaps he would get increased stats or extra effects for any champion or high cost monster he kills? Sounds like a plan, ofc please do tell me about them as you finish them
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I mean, simple stuff like the party being murder hobos and such. Ooooo, maybe an Asol skin where he's the DM and keeps getting frustrated with the players doing stupid stuff. That could be fun. The Spirit Blossom line isn't too sexy except for maybe that Thresh! And yeah, I like Bee Singed a lot and Beemo is great too. And I'm happy those are coming out and maybe at some point we'll get Bees in TFT as a synergy type.


It's at about the 30 second mark.

There's a lot of cool possibilities. Maybe like an ascended Warwick or Twitch (lol). Idk, just anything to see power boosted characters. Especially if they drip fed the story over the course of a season. And, uh, yeah, Noxus would not be happy to have another power on their flank, although I'd assume they'd see the chance at gaining hold of how to ascend people as worth the risk of allying with Xerath in the civil war thing.

I've never liked ADCs up top tbh. Just doesn't feel right. NP! I'm gonna see about knocking out the rest of my league champs out some time tomorrow. Oh, yeah that could be really cool. Maybe he could play around just countering named characters even? Or have Big Game Hunter like effects. Idk, it could be a fun deck to play around that could counter people that run big boi decks.
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Lol, honestly wouldnt even mind a semi-canon event where Aurelion is just losing his mind trying to be a DM because everyone is doing whatever they want rather than what he envisioned, and now i also cant stop thinking about how amazing an Aurelion Sol announcer voice would be, they've already done a great job with GP being the announcer back in the burning tides days soooo ye. Ey that Thresh is legit trying to reach them Kayn levels of being hot, and he is probably above them, still its Thresh so i can turn a blind eye, all around i do like spirit blossoms as a line im just worried the 2nd batch could be a bit ass. Beemo is indeed best, or well 2nd best out of bee's for me but shh, and yea it is possible? Coincidentally enough started watching some TFT myself lately, mostly because a good friend streams his ranked adventures there to me, game looks fun just too long for my taste.

Thanks thanks, always love when Riot adds extra stuff like this.

I can only imagine a fight between an ascended Malphite and ascended Rammus, it would be glorious! But also far too meme to ever be a real thing, i wonder if anyone besides humans ever got ascended tho, id love if Riot revealed more about Shurima before its fall. At the very least i can imagine Leblanc being more than interested in it, she do be preparing for that Mordekaisers return so that would probably solve her problems.

Mhm yea yea, something like that almost exactly. I imagine out of effects fearsome and maybe some new stealth mechanic would probably be most effective? Or maybe just challenger with fearsome since Rengar always picks his prey sorta thing? Dunno just spitballing but still one of the champions with more potential in LoR for sure imo.
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Oh that'd be great too. Even if you could just purchase it as an alt announcer or something. Like him getting frustrated with you and your teammates dying, but when you get a pentakill or whatever he's very self-congratulatory. Hopefully maybe we'll get Spirit Blossom Taric. We already know he can rock a deep v, so he'd be a perfect choice. I think they could work in a Bee synergy, especially if they maybe tried to do like a naturalist bent to it? Kinda getting tired of the mechanical/retro future themes currently in. I am also not nearly good enough to get into ranked, but I will say I would like Challenger synergy to get nerfed. That synergy is broken AF right now imo.

Kinda sad she didn't get any lines for Pyke, Yasuo or Ahri. Perhaps in the future. Just them acknowledging Ruined King makes me happy, though.

I'd imagine Malphite would just reform the Monolith in his ascension, which would be pretty epic. Hmmmmm, that is a good question. I also wonder if the Vastaya have any connection to it as well? I can imagine Demacia not being excited about the idea of Ascended Noxians, so I wonder what they'd do about it. They wouldn't be excited to ally with Azir, but the alternative wouldn't be better.

I would say fearsome and challenger would work the best for him and maybe when he levels up he could gain a new keyword and a +1/+1 each time he kills a 4/5 cost character? He's def got a lot of potential and would probably work well with Fiora, I'd imagine.

What do you think of Xin and Fiora?
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Mhm yep, im honestly quite surpised riot hasnt added buyable announcer voice packs yet cause, i mean damn i dont buy skins but i wouldnt mind buying those, and from people i talked to it about they were mostly supportive of the idea too. Outrageous, truly truly outrageous. Yeeeeea, from what ive seen TFT has some very very broken comps atm, one day il go back in myself.

Yea same same.

Yea there is just a lot of stuff we dont know about ascenion or Shurima in general so always would be welcome. Since you mention Vastaya, what would happen if an ascended person had kids? Can they even? Would they look something similar to a vastaya or not. Hmmmm, if i had to imagine the paranoia about magic would skyrocket quite hard in demacia, dont really know what they would do tho tbh, maybe try making more Galio's but since Durand is dead yeeea no idea.

Both Xin and Fiora look completely good to me, well done ofc! Ima go take the note from your book and request 5 of the champions from the next batch for now
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I mean, they'd just have to pay the voice actor with no need for any visual effects (unless they wanted to) and it'd be a pretty simple change. Like, I know Heroes of the Storm had that, so it's definitely doable. It's definitely a solid and doable idea! And uh, yeah, last patch was so much better balanced. This patch seems to heavily favor melee champs and makes it difficult for anything else to gain momentum, especially after Colossus base stats (Galio and Cho) got nerfed and the really good Sion got replaced with the awful Alistair. I personally think expanding the roster for the factions would help, especially if it meant adding a melee character or two to like the Yordles.

Hmmmm, that's a good question. I would assume at least some traits would pass on, but no way to know for sure yet. Like we know the Vastaya can breed with humans, so I would assume the ascended could as well unless the process sterilized them. As per the Petricite golems, Galio is the greatest, but there's also Gorlith. Maybe we'd see some unfinished golems brought to life or they could look into utilizing Piltover tech (of the none-hextech variety) to create mech-like suits? There's a lot there to work with and I would like to see Demaglia gain some more heavy hitters.

Cool, thanks for looking! I'll get to work on Shyv now and give your requests their upvotes.
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Mhm mhm, they did also do the voice announcer change thing when Arcane came out, instead of the usual announcer we had all the main Arcane characters announcing, for better or worse in some cases since some lines were repeating A LOT especially with Caitlyn. Yeeeea ive seen plenty of Irelia and Tryndamere carrying in TFT so can for sure see what you mean there. I do think a new set is coming soon or something tho, not sure tho.

I guess that could be possible too but, not yet known, alas i hope we just get some more ascended courtesy of Xerath ofc. Oh, yea that could be interesting, especially since well Piltover probably wouldnt really like Shurima coming around, since they are seemingly trying to mine stuff out of Ixtal which was Shuriman territory technically speaking. And yea Demacia kinda really lacks heavy hitting champions compared to other nations, only real ones that would count as that would be Galio and probably Poppy and Shyv, plus, i kinda really want to see a mecha-esque Garen spinning at peak speeds for glory of Demacia!

Oh thanks a lot, and Shyv looks great, absolutely nothing i would change.
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They can clearly do it then. I would pay to have Teemo or Veigar be my announcer, it'd be so frickin funny. Yeah, those two especially can get to your back lines super easy and makes placement more or less irrelevant. I also think they altered the traits Mutants can get and the ones they stuck with are mostly meh at best. Very disappointing. So if there is a new set incoming, I would 100% endorse that.

I'd imagine there has to be a way to at least produce lesser ascended, as there did used to be quite a few more of them. Maybe Ne'Zuk's research could be unearthed or something. And oooo, yeah, a Piltover/Demacia alliance could work, especially if the Demacians see stable Hextech and are able to seperate it from naturally occuring magic (even if it is hypocritical). Then maybe they could use hex crystals to power petricite prosthetics? Idk, there's lot of possibilities. Yeah, outside of those 3 and maybe Lux if she's willing to cooperate, they're probably the weakest overall faction. ?Maybe we could see something else done with Dragons too? They've got a bunch of those and there's still a lot of design space left in the dragon sphere of things for a new champ.

Cool, ty for looking. I've put in Nocturne and Janna for requests and have upvoted your's as well.
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If i could pick 2 announcers, id probably go with Veigar and Draven, i just feel they would both be hilarious as all hell to listen to. Hmmm i see i see, i could ask my friend who is really into TFT just to make sure about the new set but ye.

That could be an interesting development, after all petricite can very well be powered through magic or well this case hex crystals, and especially since they have seen Petricite is more or less completely useless against Sylas and rather only helps him i could see a world where they have to "bite the bullet" and start using it to get an advantage. Hmmmm yea true, honestly wouldnt even mind if they just brought in Kadregrin, gave him some lore, etc etc, great enough for me, dragons are always appreciated after all. Although having another fire dragon would probably clash a bit with Shyvana, still either way if not him just any other dragon.

Perfect perfect, unfortunately if my part of the next ones do get approved in the next 2-3 i wont really be able to edit them much since i dont quite have wifi atm, some infrastructure problems or whatever the ISP says. Either way yea stuck using mobile data for now but we will see.

Edit: Strolled upon Janna and Noc being seemingly done after looking at the verse page and both look great, the only things i would maybe add is lowest level of power nullifying for Noc due to his W seemingly being able to negate "anything". For Janna nothing at all, everything looks great!
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Oh, yeah, Draven is definitely another good call. Maybe Lulu as well, if a person could deal with the nonsense. I really want a new set, lol. This one has been a mistake.

I mean, they have to adapt or die and as it sits at the moment the only reason they haven't been annihilated is plot convenience. They're just not competitive militarily without making some compromises. Ooooo, he could work what with being a Shadow Isles dragon now. I'd def hope they don't go the fire dragon route too. Maybe they could dip into the idea of a stone/metal dragon like from DnD? There's a a lot out there to draw inspiration from.

I've done what I can with upvoting your's, so hopefully it will be soon. Dang, that sucks, I hope they resolve it quickly. Over here in the MO, it usually takes like a week+ for our company to fix problems they cause, let alone ones they didn't.

Thanks for checkin em and I'll add that to our spooky boy. He was definitely one that came in much higher than expected, but he is a Demon, so I shouldn't be too surprised. I'd imagine Fiddle will be around the same level too. And honestly never realized how strong Janna was, but if she made some named Ascended blush, that's no small feat.
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I mean you get a penta and get told it tastes purple, what else could go wrong? Besides that, id love Braum, especially if we also get some freljord music and sfx to boot, that would be amazing.

Yea especially nowadays when their nation is both in a civil war and is seemingly the main attraction for all the demons. And yea uhh, that would be great, although i wonder, now that the Ruination is technically over since Viego got defeated, what happened to Kadregrin? The ruined champions returned to their normal forms so maybe that but eh? And yea just, any actually non fire or ice dragon. Maybe a "lighting 3 headed dragon thats definetely not Ghidorah" could work well!

Yeeea um it definetely wont be over the weekend cause, they dont work over weekend, so eh, still um, they arent too bad with it so probably gonna be back by next wednesday if i had to guess. Oh and of course much appreciated

Honestly have no clue about Fiddle since i only read his reworked lore when he just came out and my memory has not aged that well but i imagine he should at least be around Noc's level. Yea uhh Janna is kinda insane all things considered, interested to see where the Freljord demigods will fall in comparison to her, all probably somewhat close i imagine but i cant see them going that much higher than her if at all.

Edit: Yeeeea, asked my friend about the TFT set thingy, apparently probably not before May at least, could even be sometime later, sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, yeeeeeeea...
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Why did I not think of Braum! Yes, that'd be truly glorious and very uplifting, especially if his Poro chimes in occasionally with its wisdom.

I think a petricite suit that looks something like the suits from Edge of Tomorrow could be cool. I would like them to do a new weapon, though. Maybe like a flail or a mace of some sort that's def too heavy for a normal person to lift. Oh, yes! A multi-headed dragon of any kind could be really cool. Maybe have the passive be like the secondary and tertiary heads target minions around them, but will target champions if the main head (ie the auto attack target) attacks them. Definitely some fun things to do there or they could do something like Tiamat from DnD and have each head have a different element? Then you'd have some variety for the kit and maybe a balanced tanky champ that's very versatile but not strong in any one area. Idk, I'm not a balance man. As per Kadregrin, as far as I know, the mists simply returned to the Isles and are pacified for the time being, so I'd assume he'd still keep his powers.

Ah, I see. Well then i hope you've had a nice fewish days off or whenever this finds you.

I'd imagine they'd be around her level as well, although their power seems more localized than Janna's is. The lore seems to very specifically state she was more powerful than/on par with most Ascended, so now we have an idea for them (though I imagine Susan is stronger).

Ah. Fun. I'll deal with it, I suppose.
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Mhm yea that could be cool, the only flail using champ we really have is Sej, so there is definetely more place for similar weapons. Yea that actually could be pretty nice, maybe the heads would do reduced damage if they all stack up but still would end up to maybe 166% total damage, i think it would also be really nice if the champion couldnt actually change their attack speed much (similar to senna and jhin), but in exchange perhaps the auto attacks could have an AP ratio. (Yes this is purely because i would be beyond devastated if the first dragon champion in years happened to be AD instead of AP.) Hmmmm yea perhaps perhaps, oh well we can only wait and hope.

Whelp, sure wasnt quite "few" but better late than never, oh and thanks a lot ofc.

(Only if Susan builds sheen and has 120+ stacks.) Memes aside tho yea basically more or less exactly what you said. Oh and yea noticed Cait and Ekko were added, both look great! Im gonna get to Heimy tommorow now that everything is back in order.

Yeeeeea apparently they extended it a bit as they want TFT and League to have synched patches or something, the exact date should be around 72 days now i think so, yea.

Edit: Almost forgot but Riot has also announced they will be releasing a novel covering the ruination, mostly Kalista's mission before the actual ruination happened but either way always happy to hear more stuff happening for League.
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I think Morde's the only mace user too, so there's room for the blunt force weaponry to get some love. Oh, yes, if we're having a champ already doing 3 auto attacks (even at reduced damage) they do not need extra attack speed. That'd get stupid fast. AP scaling could work as a replacement too, maybe something along the lines of Corki's passive. They're magical being's all told. I'm also imagining a q that sends the dragon forward and if they hit a champ they pin them and blast em with each of their attacks. I have a feeling we'll learn more about Kardy from the novel or LoR.

Ah yes, he need the Sheen! Thanks! Honestly Cait and Ekko were pretty straightforward, although Ekko ended up much higher than anticipated, but he has full control over the Z-Drive and that's broken. Take your time and I'll check him out when you're done.

That makes sense. That way you don't have TFT players waiting for LoL patches and vice versa.

Yes, I'd seen that! Gonna have to be sure my work purchases it, as we have a pretty decent-sized League community around here.
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Hmmm yea besides Morde, maybe we can count Taric? Buuut then again while Taric does "technically" use a mace it feels a bit wrong to count it as such. Yea that sounds good, perhaps the dragon could have a passive that gives different effects based on what map we are playing on? Since well its a multi headed dragon so it would be kinda cool and somewhat fitting at least. Yea probably probably.

Yea his numbers are really high but then again if someone cant reliably kill Ekko in a single attack or a similar fashion he does kinda just win over who knows how many attempts, might take a while but it will happen. Aight will do.

Mhm yea, basically had to add it because, they took around a 3 week vacation for league so it got a bit too desynced.

Oh really? Thats sounds nice as hell, never really had any sort of "league commuity" of sorts. Closest thing to it would be the group of friends i play the game with but then again they just like the game rather than series itself. Still, if you do get your hands on it please do keep me informed about it.
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I mean, kinda? It feels more like a stick with some crystals that happen to be on it, but that's true enough. Just too many swords. We need smashies! Oh, that could be interesting. A way to adjust his power levels for twisted treeline or ARAM and such. Even if it was just a visual difference that would be cool.

Yeah, it's super hard for anyone in tier 1 to have event the slightest chance against him because he'll just keep retrying until he wins. Even a good number of tier 2's are gonna find him hard to win against. Honestly his one true weakness in a fight is just someone too durable for him reliably hurt. Like, I don't think he could be Cho or Galio.

I mean, whatever makes their life easier and patches smoother, I can handle that. Oooo, I've recently discovered TFT Hyper Roll and it is so much more fun than basic TFT. Matches last less than half the time and no worrying about saving cash.

Well, I'm not exactly apart of it. I'm just the librarian they know they can't bs to about how long their games are gonna take. I'll def be reading it one way or another, although I kinda wish they had gone with the Lux/Ashe route and made a comic. I have more sway with purchasing decisions for that department as that's my focus.
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Ah, Twisted Treeline, if only alright, never really played it that much but it was that nice neat thing you play when you dont quite want Aram, buuuuuuuut then it got removed. (Honestly tho, i liked Dominion more than Twisted Treeline or Aram)

Yeeee,it doesnt really matter how much he can rewind if he cant actually hurt the enemy, still aside from them Ekko has a shot against almost every tier 1/2. (Plus he was dope as hell in Arcane which always helps : /. )

Oh yea my bad for not mentioning that, whenever i do play TFT i only play Hyper Roll, since honestly in this set regular TFT games take too long for my taste, much prefered when they lasted 15-20 minutes like they did in the first set.

Lol, okay thats pretty funny, and tbf being a librarian sounds fun, at least for me since i really like my peace and quiet. But ye same, over here id prefer comics purely because well, i prefer comics over novels but alas, more than happy one way or another. Oh and finished Heimy just a bit ago.
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I just saw it was removed from the game. That makes me super sad. It was a really fun gameplay mode. Really focused on making a team that functioned well together.

Yeah, he'll eventually hit a durability wall, but I legit think he could take down pretty much any non-magically enhanced person. And oh yeah, Arcane Ekko was great. Loved it when he hooked up with the Donger. I wonder if we'll get to see him create the Z-Drive in season 2.

Seeeeeee, I didn't even realize you could select different match types for TFT until I was fiddling around. And yeah, 15-20 is much more tolerable. I will say a couple of the missions in the season pass are ridiculous. Like one is getting the 5 socialite bonus, which requires rolling the bonus champ for it, which is not something I can control. Feels like a punishment, but I keep trying.

Yeah, we had a group that had started a game like 10 minutes to close and were BSing some of the part timers about how long it would take. So, I went over and asked what objectives they'd taken and as soon as they said only one turret had been taken, I kicked them out (we have parking lot wifi, so they could finish outside). It's a fun job, but I liked it better when I got to run some teen programs, which has been sorely lacking for a couple years (for obvious reasons). I try to read all of the volume 1s we get in the system, so I rarely have time for standard novels, but I'll make time here as I would like to know more about pre-Thresh Grael and pre-vengeance Kallista. For Heimy, I'd probably up his info analysis to tier 2 or 3, but other than that, I don't see anything off. Looks good!
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Mhm, plus it was always the most "meme" gamemode, pick 3 most rancid champions around and who knows it might even be broken there, cause nobody knows.

Uhuh yea pretty much. I really hope we do cause honestly before he reappeared, or well, unmasked himself i was worried we wouldnt get any more Ekko for the season and he was indeed one of my favourite parts.

Yeeeea thats sounds even more annoying than how brutal it was to complete the Ruination Event when it first launched, before they buffed the point gain per game you would need to play around 400 games to get through the entire thing. Which is a lot considering we only had it for 3 months iirc.

Yeee 1 turret sure is gonna end soon, only thing they were missing was a Veigar, Nasus and a Kayle on their team. Hmmm i see i see, well thats unfortunate. And yea finding out more backstory for champions is something i like even more than new lore for them really, well technically thats "new lore" too but i more so mean their story progressing. Aight thanks thanks, i will go up it right now.
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It was the best place to pull off the oven (Annie+Jarvan ult). Rest well, meme map.

He's just a fun character, and I couldn't imagine not getting more of him, especially if they have fun with the visual effects for rewinding time.

That's a lot to expect out of a player, especially if they're casual players. I think an easy enough solution for the TFT problem is to just have an alternate completion path like 20 games played with a 2nd level synergy level of the specific synergy they want you going for. Idk.

Honestly haven't had too many issues with em anymore. They know I'll kick em out, so they're usually out before we close now. Backstory's a lot of fun, at least when it's fleshing out something everyone's been wondering about. If this one turns out well, I hope we get stuff on the war between Shurima and the Void, for example. Maybe the OG sisters vs the Watchers.
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Lol, never heard that name, but sounds fun as hell, especially since i did use to play Annie quite a bit, and especially so with a cheesy as fuck Rylai's + Liandry's build, that way they would just get roasted by Tibbers fire aura and they also couldnt outrun him, really fun for me, not so much for them. (assuming they cant dash)

Oh damn yea now that you mention it, considering how pretty Arcane was, damn they would go all out on Ekko. ESPECIALLY, considering they already juiced the fuck out of his fight with Jinx, that thing was gorgeous, probably best 1-2 minutes of any league cinematic.

Yea yea, they can even implent the point system we have for league, that way it can even be less than 20 games if someone performs really well.

All is well that ends well then. If i could pick 3 backstories in specific, i would definetely pick Mordekaiser's rise to power and formation of original Noxus, formation of Shurima and more specifically the first ascended, and yea for 3rd pick the entire Liss and sisters thing could work really well, but definetely prefer the shurima one cause my love for it is immeasurable.
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That's what me and my buds called the combo, at least. Oh yes, I almost always got those on Annie as well. Giving her burn + slows was great.

Oh yeah, that fight was def the best part of the whole series. Even if they just give us one battle where he rewinds and adjusts until he gets it perfect would be great! Especially if they can work in some True Damage.

Oh, yeah, maybe a scaling points based on placement? Like 5-8 place gets one point, 3-4 gets 2 and so on. Or maybe on how long you last, idk.

I mean, really just fleshing out the backstories of any of the regions would be nice. I would legit like to know what the world looked like prior to the Ruination. Like where was Camavor and such.

Did you see the Jinx v Harley Quinn DB?
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Ah spectacular then, for now i know i was not the only one, makes me at least a bit less crazy for doing. That aside tho Tibbers would actually melt champs and especially objectives hard af, i remember getting 2-3k damage on baron just off his aura, pretty crazy stuff.

Yeap yeap i hope so, doubt they would make him fight Jinx again but perhaps Urgot could be around in next season, that could be a cool one. (Plus then finally the meme of Ekko fighting "Urgot" in his cinematic would be true)

Mhm yea, in regular league you get more if you win and it also depends on game lenght, so really long games that you win give you A LOT of points, it could work prettywell for that too..

Ohhhhhhh, yes yes yes, we painfully need more Camavor stuff, we only have bits and pieces from Viego while the other champions from there dont really expand on it at all, would love more. No idea if Riot will release another champion from Camavor tho, at least not anytime soon, and even if they did, kinda have no idea who (besides Necrit)

No i havent actually, thought it didnt come out yet, i will check it out tommorow cause its really late so gonna go to bed rn. Thanks for the heads up.
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I know my buddy that took her mid would pick one or the other, but I always got both on her. The benefits were just too high and worked too well with her play style. Silly not to abuse it.

Oooo, yes, Urgot showing up could be great. Or even having Ekko trying to prevent Jinx firing the rocket at the end of season one could be cool too. See how far he can push the Drive.

Yeah, that would be super nice on those RNG heavy missions. Struggling right now to get Viktor and Jayce on my team at the same time, but the rolls have not been kind to me.

Maybe they could introduce some ancient champions that get revived by whatever means they deem fit. Could be a good way to allude to how things used to be with dialogue and whatnot. Necrit might be better as an announcer pack imo. I also legit wouldn't mind them having some pre-Ruination skins for champs. Seeing blessed Maokai could be cool.

I... have problems with their methodology on this one.
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Ohhhh, yea that could work, especially because, im really not sure how they are supposed to survive the explosion, cause at the very least Jayce and Viktor should survive it and they are amongst the closest to the window soo? (Unless Riot legit just says "fuck it" and kills them both off)

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea, i hate relying on RNG, best example for league quests would be when the last project skin batch came out one of the quests was getting a champion with the skin on your team which was a bit annoying, still secondary objective existed so not nearly as annoying as it could be.

Necrit as an announcer pack? Sign me up, there are plenty of league content creators id pay to hear in my games. Yea i think he could work really well, maybe Kalista too but her W and R wouldnt really work so probably not but still nice to think about it.

Yeeeeea, while i do agree with the conclusion and video was fun as usual, man, i was not liking how they treated jinx at all, scaling her Super Mega Death Rocket to Lux through using an outdated game trailer is bad but scaling her to Braum due to the wild rift trailer was even more. (Braum deserves more respect!) Oh and giving any league champs items is plain out wack.
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I highly doubt they'll kill those two off as that'd definitively make Arcane an alternate universe. Maybe the rocket'll be a dud! I'd much rather it be Ekko creating the Z-Drive to stop the rocket from hitting, though. Maybe let us see an alt timeline where Zaun and Piltover are in a no-holds-barred civil war?

Lord knows the day I complain about it is the day RNGesus smiles upon me and gives me what I needed. I would've much preferred secondary objectives to the grind, though.

Honestly, making content creator announcer packs as like charity items could be really cool now that I think about it. Even if it was just a normal RP thing, it'd be a cool way to integrate the community into the game. Oh yeah, that's true... Maybe she could toss out a lil soldier man for her W? Idk how they'd do the ult, though... hmmm.

I really hate when they high ball characters like that. Like, that was just Braum tapping her too, not him trying to kill her. By that logic they should've scaled Harley to Wonder Woman or Superman. And I know they said they were using old and new lore, but c'mon, there's plenty of reference in new and Arcane for Jinx. Also know she's not that strong because she has to brace herself to fire Fishbones. And yeah, unless they have obtained those items in canon (Like Viego, Yasuo or Pyke), they should not have access to in-game items. That is such bull, especially when it felt like whoever did the research included that as an answer to Harley's toxins (which wasn't even really required).
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30 has been achieved again.

Oh yes, Skarl in a coat'd be so cute! Maybe even wearing a lil beanie. I'd like to see Piltover Twitch. He's still nervous, but is obsessed with sanitation. Maybe he could be Piltover Jinx's partner?

Letting the player's interact with the lore is great. And I remember the Bilgewater event being a lot of fun, yeah. Shame about Ruination cause Ruined King was great. Void Event would be a good time to finally officially reveal if Kai'sa is Kass's daughter or not. Also be cool to see him leading the charge against the invasion. Maybe get some unlikely allies a chance to shine. Maybe Bard could do something about it to.

Oh yeah, BB Vlad should say things like "Your data's leaking..." and such.

Today's been kinda hectic, so I've only had time to look in Liss... I think she's a solid tier 3 with her stopping the first Watcher invasion. I would also say she needs perception and sense manipulation, which she demonstrated in her hero story. I'd also add low duplication because she can make the ice/snow doubles. I'll take a look at Vlad later today when I get some free time.
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Mhm, so it would seem alright.

Yes! Exactly what i had on mind, just want ad need more adorable Skaarl aroudn. And yea uh, Twitch thats obsessed about sanitation and Jinx thats obsessed with following rules, ofc would only be great if the two are somehow completely inept at doing their thing.

Yea Bard coming around would be cool. The thing i want most from the Void event tho is for them to change the formula around slightly, by that i mean maybe change around the "visual novel-ish" type of storytelling, orrrrrrrrrrrrr, making it so that taking different dialogue options consistently makes our relationships with the characters at least a bit different. Cause in the sentinels of light event it didnt matter if you were the biggest clown or the most serious guy in existance, lucian still hated your guts completely , but alas...

Lol, yea VPN enjoyer Vlad

Oh yea yea ofc, take your time ofc but alright. Thanks for the suggestions will implement them right now, and ye she should be tier 3 after more thinking, since well when she did get "clapped" by Volibear she didnt even make the deal with the Watchers yet, not only that but she was also pretty young i was probably capping a bit in the morning when i put her as 2 cause ye technically stopping Watchers, but oh well it is me in the mornings. And ye hope the day got better ofc!
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Grrr, now I'm trying to imagine a Zaunite Caitlyn that's like a super laid back crime lord backed up by a timid Vi that is clearly close to a breakdown.

Bard just really needs to do things. He's supposed to be stopping these catastrophic events from happening in the first place. Maybe they could do a thing where the players actually influence the narrative with their choices? Like if a majority picks an option, that becomes canon or something. Give the player base some agency.

I looked at Vlad and literally every time I thought of something to add, he already had it. Great job with him! I think it'd be fun to add in Battle Boss Mordekaiser as well and Arcade Viego where he gets to be the hero or something similar.

Liss also looks great! I think she also gives us an idea where the Freljordian Demigods should land, as I'd imagine they'd at least be comparable to her.
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Lol, could be a really funny skinline where the story is that Viktor and Jayce accidentally messed up the timeline with their new inventions so now with them 2 being the only ones who are still normal they have to team up again before things get too out of hand.

One of these days Bard will ride in as the coolest celestial to save the world, with a whole wave of meeps supporting and chimimg for him. Mhm yea, maybe something similar to how we could decide who won between Dawnbringer Riven and Nightbringer Yasou back in the days, just with it being expanded and updated as a mechanic this time ofc.

Thanks ofc, i guess for now i will just wait for rest of Noxus and check every now and then if there is something i missed for anyone. And yea honestly now that you mention it, arcade or anything else, i think we just need a skin where Viego is the flamboyant and fairly dense main hero. Its just so opposite to how he is that it would be great especially as he would still look the part just with some different clothes and being less ghost-like

Mhm yea, i imagine they should all fall anywhere between 2.5k-3k
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I'd love to see a Zaun Heimer too and a cool and collected Ziggs. Lots of potential here for some zany antics while those two try to fix things.

If only my trumpet boy would get off his butt πŸ˜₯ And yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Obvs make it more like a branching narrative, but it'd be great for player engagement.

I've given em all an upvote, so hopefully they'll drop soon-ish. Oh, I found that someone had made a profile for Malphite, so I'm working on getting it up to par now. If they still wanted him to be ghostly, they could have him be a character Veigar tried to delete or something. Then you could have him glitch and whatnot?

I have a feeling that's where the ascended will fall as well.
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Oh yea for sure, those two would be great, cant see any way how Blitzy and Zac would change tho among some others, but oh well. Mhm, they are a pretty beloved duo to me, after all i am an avid Viktor enjoyer

Maybe Bard is just waiting for the perfect moment to free Asol from the clutches of Targon, after which he will ride ontop of Asol's head while playing his trumpet, ready to save the universe from the void once and for all! Honestly tho i think a jokey type mini-comic with Asol, Bard and Soraka could be really funny. Mhm mhm, i wouldnt even mind if they did the invasion of Ionia thing again, where 2 teams play against each other only playing champs from the regions, at the very least we get one hell of a stream and time to root for our favourites, although ofc would much prefer the player alternative.

Hey thanks a lot, im sure they will come out throughout the week and if they dont worst case scenario i can try nicely asking Monster (or someone else) for the upvotes, he is always very helpful after all. Malphite looks great, id only add low level homing attack cause of the Q but thats all, still, did not expect Malphite would be one of the leftover champs that gets requested by someone else. Omg i love that idea, his E and passive could literally just be him glitching out of his mind, then we can have funny quotes of him being confused when he possesses someone, idk like example being confused as to why he is a giant rock after taking over malphite, could be a real fun one for Viego and tbf it has been some time since his last skin.

Hmmm, myself i see some ascended dropping there, while the strongest would be fairly higher
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I mean, they did the whole Bilgewater AU skin line. What we're proposing isn't impossible.

Oh, yes, all three of them interacting in maybe a chibi style would be great. Maybe have like a running joke Soraka comes to tell Bard about some kind of crisis and he's all "Not my thing" and then she says something about someone using an artifact to make cookies and he's like "It's my time." Revisiting old events isn't a bad idea. Give them a chance to flesh out previously established events. And yeah, a stream battle using only those champs could be cool, especially all of the rebalancing and roster expansions that have happened since they did it last.

They'll get approved at some point. I'm still waiting on Malz and my Sentinels of the Multiverse characters. I did add that to Malphite. Honestly found him while looking through the empty character list. He'd been uploaded like 2 or 3 years ago and just forgotten... How fitting for him. Yeeees! That'd be perfect for Arcadia's edgelord hero savior. Even if they just limited his interactions to characters with Arcade skins, it could be great fun. Maybe have him trying to rescue Arcade Isolde from BB Veigar?

Where do you think Azir, Susan and Gator boy are gonna fall? I also kinda wish we could get a Ne'Zuk card or something in LoR so we could get an image for him cause he was nuts both mentally and power wise.
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Yeap yeap, and then the two of them also somehow rope in Aurelion to help then, probably by flattering him and hyping him up that only the most brilliant of all Celestial Dragons can help, and after that the 3 go onto an adventure to save the universe where Soraka is the only one trying to really help everyone, because Bard is too obssessed looking everwhere for the cookie maker. It is a shame that Riot haaas more or less confirmed some of the old events wont ever be coming back, best example the PvE events like the Odyssey or Star Guardian ones annnd i sure do miss those tbh.

Mhm, all in due time ofc. Lol, soo then that means, Malphite is ACTUALLY the first League profile, even older than the verse page itself, it could not be more fitting in any way. Oh yes, and now that u mention that i legit cannot get an image of Viego in colorful clothes riding Hecarim to fight Veigar in a 2D sort of an artstyle out of my head, can even see it being a mini-game for the event, at first we have to chase Veigar with hecarim while dodging his Q's, and at the end of the chase we get the second stage of the bossfight, the heroic 1v1 against the master of evil himself, all made/viewed as an old 2D arcade game ofc.

Azir is probably the only one i see in the 2.5-3k ballpark, Susan and Croc should both be much higher tho as i think they would be tier 4 or even possibly 5 depending on a couple details i need to reread.
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Maybe it could be framed as like a road trip too. With Asol stopping them being like there's something amazing over there and it;s always just another star he made. And Bard's just like πŸ‘ but does it make cookies? And Soraka's trying to be polite and listen to Asol go on about how great this particular star is. Awwww, that sucks. It's a good format to explore world events and alt universes. I really enjoyed the Star Guardian ones.

His profile is just so full of irony and I love it. Omg, that'd be great! I can also see Veigar being like, "Why are you talking like that? You sound ridiculous!" And it can just be because he's from older games that were weirdly translated. And yes, that visual is perfect.

I'll have to look into them then as well. I'm only vaguely familiar with their lore from playing as them. Oh, Malz got approved and I think I've got him finished. He came in higher than expected, but he's freakin crazy based on his lore.
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Awwww shit, the ideas are just too too too good for them to not be true, i need that comic as a mini series asap (Riot make the Void event great, its this easy!). Mhhhhhhmmmm, do agree but well, they said they will try making new innovative gamemodes, graaaanted i dont remember any yet, i mean we had the, "Viego" one recently where essentially instead of 2 summoner spells you get 1 summoner spell and 1 ult from 3 options, but honestly i hated that event, it essentially played just like even faster and more chaotic urf and i am noooooot quite much of an urf fan to say the least.

Oh absolutely, and, Viego would need, to have a lot of very generic "edgy hero one-liners" maybe we can even have a gag where whenever he tries saying them he gets interupted by a glitch or something else every time, perhaps thats what happens before that final Veigar bossfight. I would also say its rather obligatory that a couple of Shadow Isles champs get Arcade skins alongside him, or maybe just Kalista and Vlad could work, either way anyone who can work great as Viego's sidekicks.

Mhm, its mostly because Nasus and Renekton were said to be the strongest Ascended in the empire until the time Shurima fell and Xerath Ascended, which would put them above or at Aatrox's level who has some, tier 4/5 stuff, but well i dont remember Aatrox lore too well so i could just be capping but yeeea. Damn Malza be stacked af, i was expecting him to be high but thats definetely higher than expected, he looks pretty damn great but i would give in some suggestions, mostly just homing attack since well his E summons directly on his targets and follows them (kinda same with ult but lower degree). I would also give him uhh, either low level cloaking, force fields or energy armor, because well he protects himself with void energy with his passive and while i do see u gave damage reduction which is great thats more so just a sub-effect of the "shield", so i would still add it at an at least low level. Ofc those are just suggestions but yeeeee...
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I mean, it virtually writes itself. Could even have them accidentally run into some of the other cosmic alt universes. Like, I think Dark Star Jhin has been able to move between universes iirc. I will go on the record as enjoying URF, but really only with friends. Doing it with a bunch of randos just isn't fun.

This is another skin that virtually writes itself. It'd be really funny to have Arcade Kalista working alongside her uncle and fellow general that betrayed her in the normal timeline. Just sweet irony all around.

Sounds like I'm gonna have to get my research pants on for em. I applied your suggestions as they make perfect sense and thanks again for lookin over Malzahar. My buddy that used to main him is gonna be happy with where he landed.
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Yo YES, or if they also got into trouble with the Pulsefire patrol because they accidentally messed up the timeline in some way, perhaps at start it was only minor stuff but after Asol got told by some "Weird looking time cop" to calm down with the stars he threw one at him, so the 3 of them have to both run around closing Void rifts and avoid getting caught by the entire "space time police" chasing them (And ofc find the cookie maker). Yea yea uh, should've been more specific, with friends its tons of fun but was more so talking in a solo sense.

Yeap yeap. (Riot should hire us, we can make meme skins great again!)

Mhm, well tbf same goes for me and most of targon, that region in specific i either find, extremely boring or really fun, completely depending on which champion. Ey nice thanks. Oh you have a friend that mained Malzahar too? Easily the best friend i ever made from League was a Malza main until like january this year, a real great guy, does also help we happeno be from the same nation too but ye, Malzahar is high af. If we go by the hype some rioters give him in his statements he really is insane, since some of them have even said they see him as a sort of an avatar of the void, ofc just their opinions rather than anything concrete but really cool stuff nonetheless.

Edit: Holy shit, just as i was gonna tell you about how ive started checking back on some of the earlier added profiles, mostly those that need image updates, like Asol for now, tried shifting it for his splash since this one as great as it is looks a bit pixelated eventho its a high resolution image, but his splash ended up not working either.

Either way what i was trying to say is, i was just gonna say mention the couple others il look over but them all of a sudden i see rest of Noxus has been released, gonna have plenty of fun to say the least.
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Yes! And it's even better having these cosmically powerful entities bumbling around screwing everything up like some Greek Gods. Ah, yeah, solo URF sucks hard. Too hard to get full memes out of it by your lonesome.

I really wish I was a graphic designer so I could make these a reality. Maybe I can message Subjectively and get them to make em πŸ˜…

Yeah, he was obsessed with Malz for a while, trying him in every lane with a bunch of different builds from full AD to AP tank. And yeah, it appears Malz players are the best of friends. I've known mine going on 25 years now. I will be excited to see what they do with Malz in the Void event. Maybe we'll get full Void manifestation Malz?

I thought that pic of Asol looked good and yeah, his splash is a really weird angle.

Yeah, I think Monster went through and approved things. I got 15 dropped on me I gotta work on, including Lucian and Senna.
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Mhm, we can only hope alright we can only hope. Yeeea uh, especially so nowadays cause, since urf has been out a while people have fully realized what the strongest stuff there is, and playing against the "broken" champs on urf almost every game is just soul-draining.

Perhaps perhaps. Tbf tho i always wanted to be any sort of an artist myself, but then it hit me i suck ass at art.

Damn, always nice to find out about someone who truly enjoys their champion, respect. Mhm perhaps, maybe he also has something to do with the new champion they promised us but shhhh

Yea yea i think it looks good too, just wanted to see if i could improve it, i did also change around his powers a bit but generally his stats didnt really change much, i think he lost 5k points or such but yea.

Whelp, you go have fun alright, Senna and Lucian can wait alright.

Edit1: finished Kled, Darius and Draven, those two might have some of my favourite LoR art tbh
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URF probably should've stayed as a once a year game mode. That way no one really has a way to practice and everyone tries the silliest things possible.

I'm more of a writer type. Visual art has never been anything I'm particularly talented at.

I do see that now that he dropped a bit. Still the most powerful person in the verse that's been uploaded so far, though.

I think I'm gonna finish up the Sentinels characters before I get to the duo, as it's easier to look at the cards and such at home.

Darius and Draven look great. And yeah, their art is great. On Kled, are you including Skarl for him?
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Agreed, but uhhh, if that was the case, damn, we would not want all random urf cause sheeesh getting stuck playing something that sucks in Urf is quite a terrible feeling.

Kinda same really, even used to do a bit of writing myself, never really ended up as much at all (Thankfully cause im asscheeks at it too) but it sure as hell was fun.

Mhm most certainly, and well will easily stay that was all the way until AU's, and even then he is probably still among the high ranks in the pecking order.

Ye sure thing, whatever works for you alright.

Aight thanks, and uhh about Kled, yeeeees but i didnt put too much thought into it, was wondering if i should have his name to "Kled and Skaarl" tho because well, ye. Any specific reason why you asking?
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Hmmm. I feel like maybe if there was a happy medium ground for AURF where you could disable champs you didn't like or something (like 5-10) so you'd still hopefully get someone fun to play, but not have to worry about getting a shit champ.

I do a little bit here and there still, but I just have too much goin on atm to really commit myself.

Uh, yeah. I think some of the Event Horizon guys will make him sweat, but we shall see.

I'll get Lucy and Senna done tomorrow probs.

Hmmmm, you could put that as the real name like what I did with Nunu. Oh, I only asked because I saw his speed was super low. That's all really.
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Hmmmmmm, yea, or just give like, 2 bans to everyone, only there tho not in regular league.

Mhm yea, i might come back to my ordeal later on but we gonna see.

Yea probably

Mhm sure thing, i finished Samira and Talon for now and with that Noxus should be over, i guess i should maybe go onto some other region now?

Yeap, i did exactly that and edited up his speed, thanks ofc for the suggestion.
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20 bans would probably be enough to curb a good number of the BS champs, so I concur with that motion.

I'll take a look at them today and get back to you, although I will admit I'm fairly ignorant on Samira. I think we have Zaun, Piltover and Demacia left. Any of those especially appeal to you?

Sorry if it felt like I was being weird about it. I just wasn't sure and I think I came off wrong, so I apologize. But, Kled looks much better now that he's with his beloved Scarl.
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Aight sure thing, thanks ofc. And ye truth be told i never fully read Samira's lore before today, just saw her as a cooler Sivir really... which is kinda exactly what she is tbf. We do also have Ixtal left and if its cool id like to take that? Well more so than Ixtal its ixtal+kumungu jungle cause riot, just kinda think they would be really fast since only Rengar, Neeko, Nidalee and Zyra are left, plus does help i find Rengar and Neeko pretty fun while Nidalee is okay. (And Zyra is kinda boring but we dont talk about that.)

Oh no not at all, please no need to apologize at all, feel absolutely free to mention anything and everything, if you think i put someones hair color wrong, mention it, let alone something like this. Cause ye it was an improvement imo because the lizard deserves his respect, Kled and S-Carl should always bet a duo just like Nunu and Willump
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Okay, Samira and Talon both look great! Yeah, she is kinda neat. I like the idea of a melee and ranged champ. Oh, I only realized this because I was reading Samira's lore, but we're forgetting Rell! Oh, yeah, go ahead and take Ixtal, although I would like to do Nidalee if you don't mind. She was the first champ I made it to Gold with.

Okay, good, just wanted to make she I didn't hit a nerve or anything. And yes, good lizard boi deserves every ounce of respect in the world!
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Aight thanks for checking again. Mhm, i really like that Riot is trying to experiment with adcs, because ima be honest, as a top laner there is nothing more aids than seeing a Vayne i will never be able to 1v1 clap my botlane, because all she does is right click my ass for %max true damage: / (overly simplified but shhh i need to rant about Vayne being annoying!). Yeaa uhh, its because for whateeeeever reason Rell isnt in the Noxian champions on the universe page, eventho Riven is and she is, literally more of a wanted criminal than Rell rn, alas. Either way ima request Rell alongside the other Ixtal folk minus Nidalee, and ye ofc its completely cool, all yours chief. My first champion i got gold and plat with is, pre-rework yorick, i went from being kinda really really stuck in silver 2-1 to just speeding into plat 5 in the span of like a month, only played Yorick during the time

Oh yea nah ofc, unless you tell me something ridiculous like that Taric isnt outrageously fabelous or that Viktor isnt > Jayce no way i get angry. Memes aside tho nah i dont think there is a way for you to make me angry, especially by just trying to tell me something ofc.
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Oh yeah, I freaking hate Vayne. She needs a gameplay update to make her not a braindead champ to play. Oh, I hope I did your boy proud then. I did like pre-rework Yorick, but I also like his updated kit making him super good at pushing. I always like a champ that can push an objective. And alright, I'll put in a request for Nid. Oh, that's weird Rell isn't on the Noxus page. Maybe they need to update it. Do you think I should tackle Piltover or Demaglia next? I do like me some Cait, but I guess with Lucy and Senna I kinda started workin on Demacia? (what do you think of them btw?)

Okay, phew. And, yes Taric is the most fabulousest person on the plane. I will admit I like Big Hammers (tm), but yeah, Viktor's got way more personality and that's what counts.
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Mhhhhhm, so many tears ive cried because i picked Cho, and then the enemy picked Vayne, but oh well now im a mid laner again so i need to fear no more! And ye you did a great job with D-Shovel, i also love the new splitpush yorick myself, especially with hullbreaker now in the game. Hmmmmm, yea you can do either region. Tbf i kinda dont want to do Demacia much overall because, truth be told, besides like, Sona and Galio, the only champion i really like is Sylas, and since we've already done the first 2 the rest range from Okay to really boring (Looking at you Jarvan).

Oh and uh didnt notice you updated them, after taking a quick look however i would give indominitable will to Lucian, cause i mean, man was legit ready to die just to get his revenge on Thresh, id say he definetely needs at least a low level one. Besides that he looks amazing. About Senna id give her some level of force fields since well she creates them with her ult, oh and just the usual low level reactive power level since she gets stronger with each soul she collects due to her passive. Btw tho really like the images you chose for both, amazing art in LoR yet again.

Mhmmm, Viktor's short story is still my favourite piece of league lore, that and, Tales of Ornn. If we only talk a single story worth of lore, cause well i do prefer the entire Shurima ascended thing buuut thats a very big topic compared to a single short story.
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Yeah, that's such an awful and non-interactive matchup! I like to be a big boi and I shouldn't be losing to a lil girl. Make me sad all tiems. I am unfamiliar with that item (or I'm just blanking on it), but I assume it helps to put pressure on different lanes? I'll tackle Demaglia then, but I'll leave Sylas to you, if you'd like. I'm okay with boring, I just wanna be able to do faction wars.

Okay, thank you for noticing I missed those and I have updated them accordingly. Also gave Senna the power of will. And yeah, the art in that game is like 98% amazing, with a few notable bad ones (lookin at you Thresh).

I like the Void's lore, ngl. I just love extra dimensional invaders, but the demi-gods of the Freljord are great and the ascended are really fun. Would love to see someone accidentally ascend somehow? Idk how that'd work, but it'd be cool.
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Yeeeeeea you are just there standing, 1st and 2nd auto feeling like nothing special but then the 3rd one comes and you wonder what sorta meteor just hit you, then you realise that thing is coming again very soon... Its a new item, tldr, it gives the user 200% damage to turrets alongside 20-65 armor+MR (if he is without teamates nearby) and it buffs all of his cannon minions in a similar manner, so basically it makes the user a real bossfight 1v1 while it also melts turrets, basically perfect for Yorick. Ey just do whatever you find most fun ofc, absolutely any region you want is yours, if you also find demacia boring we can just split half/half when we get to it.

Aight nice nice, great job again ofc! And yes... Thresh... annnnnnnd some others but shhh.

Ohhhhh i see, and yea tbf Void ranks pretty damn high in my book too, probably top 3 region wise id say. Hmmm, perhaps would have to do something with Xerath imagine? Either that or maybe a story where someone accidentally ascended back when Shurima only started doing the whole ordeal, would be possible there was an unexpected ascenion or two before they really figured out how it really worked. And tbf if someone could/would/should accidentally ascend, just riot, do it with Sivir, she needs something actual happening in her lore besides her being a greedy mercenary and Azir's descendant
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It's just so obnoxious. I mean, there should be counters to classes so none get too OP, but it shouldn't be an oppressive match up. Ooooooo, that is pretty sweet. I can see that being nice on Galio as well, as you'd be able to use his ult to still be able to help a teammate if they get in trouble. Oh, I have no problem with Demacia. They're bland, but workable. They've definitely gotten a lot of love in LoR and I've been experimenting with them there.

Oh yeah, that could work. Oooooo, maybe it could be an Osiris type character. Where he/she was split into a bunch of pieces because the process was flawed or something and then you have someone reassemble them. Idk, might be a way to have a half way point between Xerath's aesthetic and the other Ascended. And yeah, Sivir's fun, but she's been neglected so hard. Using a gameplay update to like semi-ascend her or something could be neat. Be a way to explain how her freakin weapon even works.
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Agreed yea, um, there should be counters but not in a way where there is literally no way for the other person to feasibly win assuming both players play correctly, another example of someone who is really unfun would be Kassadin because, if you pick a typical mage into him nowadays you just get boned, but if you are a Kassadin main and you have to pick first, you already know there is an ad champ on the other side waiting to demolish you, its just 0 fun for either party. Would be but forgot to specify its an AD-bruiser item, still there is probably some cheese master running it, i did get clapped by AD Twisted Fate just 2 days ago aftr all. Mhm i see i see, whelp, i guess you can do Demacia then, but still if you have anyone you find too boring please feel free to just leave them for me.

Oh yea that could be a pretty cool mechanic, maybe something like bard chimes, just with maybe more defined amps, every at 30 (or any other number) stacks the champ gets a completely new effect on abilities since he/she regained a limb or whatnot important part of body, model gets updated with stacks too ofc. Yea honestly just anything for Sivir because right now she is unimportant af in the entire Shurima thing, yet riot wants her to be important. Sooo, the semi-ascension could work, especially since technically there is power of 8 sealed ascended in her weapon already (courtesy of Zoe) and she was also VERY technically present at Azir's ascension, or well her blood was used to finish it and revive him, at least it would make her relevant again and give her some importance.
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Yeah, a matchup being favorable is one thing, but when it turns into an auto-gg... Oooofff, hard counter life there. I remember when Kass was like the number 1 ban pick for a couple months because he just annihilated any other mid-laner. I've never tried AD tank Galion, but it could work. And ngl, I've had some success in the past with AD/Mix TF as an ADC. Not the best thing ever, but if you're first pick it can fake out the opposing mid-laner into picking something that can be countered. The only champ I don't really like from Demaglia is Sylas, so I can do the rest no problem, even if they're a lil uninteresting.

Oo, yeah, that could be neat. Maybe be something of a fusion with Viktor's hextech core enhancing his abilities but tied to a quest system of some kind. That could be a lot of fun and have some good counterplay opportunities. Maybe some day we can get the Shurima story moving forward again, even if it's in drips and drops. And, ah, that's why it can do things. I never really got into Zoe's lore because she's annoting af. I do really like Sivir as an intro level ADC, but her kit just doesn't really have any synergy to it as of right now.
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Mhm yea honestly, AD TF is, probably one of the least troll "off-meta" builds around, its cheezy af but it can work very well into particular comps. Oh damn really Sylas huh? Wouldnt imagine that, since most usually like him, but yea uh, il very gladly take Sylas then.

Yep yep, exactly what i had in mind, like a fusion of Bard's chimes collection and Viktor's upgrades. Yee i only know Zoe stuff cause, she is very connected to a lot of the Shurima/Darkin stuff so had to read it as an avid Shurima enjoyer, if it wasnt for that probably would only quickly skim through her bio cause truth be told find her very annoying and insufferable. Mhm yea, Sivir is the, "garen" of adcs, simple as all hell but yeea preferably, uh, she gets some kind of a game update.

Edit: Okaaay so, it would seem, i might've possibly forgotten to request Kennen back in the Ionia days, because uhh, tried doing a Kinkou Order vs Order of Shadows battle and yea uh, couldnt add Kennen, did i forget or did you just mention you wanted him back in the past?
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It's definitely more of a niche/counter build that I would use more to get a favorable matchup for my mid-laner. Yeah, I just don't like him bc he's such a butt in the Lux comic, so feel free to grab him in your next batch.

I mean, I think that'd be a fun champion. I like ones that evolve throughout the game like Kha and Vik and, to a lesser extent, Kayle. Zoe's also kind of a stalker, which makes her extra creepy (crush on Ez). Sivir being basic is fine, as she works... she just doesn't feel good mechanically. Like Garen is big tank/crit fighter/assassin and feels impactful when you play him right. But, like her Ult is just so situational and can be useful, sure, but it just feels like you press a button and everyone gets a buff.

Oh, I hadn't noticed poor Kennen was missing. I think we both just forgot about the little monster.
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30 seems to be the number we're moving on from, so here we are :3

I'm just too stubborn to give up games and I do like turning things around, but yeah, the higher up you go, the harder it becomes.

Yeah, without Silco I don't know who the main villain is gonna be. Jinx is just kind've chaotic neutral/evil and doesn't really have any goals outside of destruction. I would guess Viktor alongside Singed could be the next main villains? I mean, Vik's already like 30% robot at this point, so he's almost to his villainous transformation. Or you could have a rando Noxus invasion.

Yes, they really need to meet up and have the most jolly adventures possible. Nunu does canonically look up to Braum and the Poro learning ice magic from Willump to complement its sweet stealth skills would be good.

Yes, she's definitely been overtuned hard. There's just not enough chance for interaction against her kit outside of just killing her and outside of specifically needing a healer or something, yeah, why would you pick anyone else? I completely understand your point too. My feeling is more that distinctness and gameplay feel are the most important aspects of a champ. Like Malphite and Galio utilize very similar ideas for their core concepts and even ults (to an extent), but their utility and gameplay feel are different enough thatthey're both useful. And a champion making you feel useful/powerful in the game is paramount. But, when you have abilities that lack counterplay (like Renata and Tryndamere's ults) while it might feel powerful for the player, those fighting them are just going to be frustrating. And if a champ is frustrating to play against purely because of mechanics, they're not a very well designed champ.

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Yeap yeap yeap, 30 it shall be

I see i see, well thats fair too as long as like, its literally yknow uh not, 40 to 5 kills or something, im up for not ffing games where our comp outscales and its realistic, but those impossible level scenarios? Ye no.

Renata DOES actually have interactions with Swain saying that "piltover shall be hers and not his" so it is actually possible, and well uh tbf, since Renata is here, i can see her being the villain, alongside getting some Camille shenanigans. ESPECIALLY, because just 2 days ago or so its been confirmed that after Udyr, Skarner will be the one receiving the VGU (unfortunately... i voted for Shyvana and would prefer both Noc and Koggy over him)

Holy shit, okay yes it must happen, fuck everything else gimme that

True absolutely agreed, another problem with those champions like Tryndamere or Renata is, they have that 1 or so incredibly broken gimmicks, and if people cant deal with it cause of their champion picks, its terrible to play. BUT, if their gimmicks dont work (example Yasuo can block Renata ult which is a huge meme) their champions just become shit and so its annoying for them and their team. Renata (and some other champions) just dont work because they are either shit or broken af, no inbetween.

She seems really good, nothing, id change myself so very well done ofc!

Now that its the weekend il try to finish all the Ionia people tommorow, pretty sure they all got released too so that is nice, slacked a bit too much on it truth be told. Mostly cause was somewhat busy but more so just been really really enjoying this season of league. S12 is very nice imo at least.
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Oh, yeah, if it's like a spread that far, I'm gonna throw in the towel. I was talking like an 8-4 game or something. Like they def have the lead, but it's not like we're getting stomped.

Ahhhh, I see. Those would both work for villains. Maybe that's why Renata was dropped so quickly? Skarner's attached to Shurima, right? Maybe that means some expanded Shurima lore? Maybe?

It'd be so wholesome and fun! Braum teaches Nunu how to put a frost dragon in a headlock while Nunu teaches him how to play the flute. So much fodder for fun times!

I can find no fault with your statement there. The champ should always be fun to play and play against. And maybe it's just me, but I prefer my champs to feel balanced and not like I'm winning just because they're broken. And the opposite sucks as well.

Okay, good. I hadn't really looked into her lore before, but I like her a lot better now that I have.

No worries. It's not like we're being paid to do this. Only reason I get so much done here is because I can work on profiles when there's down time at my job.
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Oh yea yea games like those il also try to win, absolutely, dont mind at all in trying if chances are at all meaningful

Hmmm well, Skarner is shuriman but his lore is more piltover based since all Hextech is powered by hex crystals, which come from the crystals skarners species uses as sort of a sanctuary for their hivemind-soul shenanigans, since after a brackern passes away it digs its crystal into the ground until it is "reborn" as someone else, piltover folk dug up the crystals and realized they be packin quite good juice with the tech sooo, ye.

Truly beautiful yes, truly

Mhm yea uh, kinda that exactly, in an ideal world all of my champions would be aroud 50-51% winrate and 4-5% pickrate, definetely good and completely playable but far from broken or trash.

Yeap yeap, i kinda found her extremely lame before i read her stuff too but, she is actually pretty dope.

Yeeeea i know i know, its just something i generally have a habit of doing tho, im EXTREMELY terrible at starting things, but i usually finish them in one sitting after i start. So ye, gonna try to go for that

Edit: Oh also, uh, pretty sure neither of us requested Vi, sooo rather than have her sit there empty, want me to ask to edit her or would you prefer to do it yourself in case you like Vi?
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I mean, you gotta try.

Oh yeah, that's true, I guess. Just gotta dream of a return to the desert.

A game without under or over performers would be a feat, for sure. Or they could alternate broken and worthless champ releases and hope everything balances out.

The story where she just pushes the dude under the water with her spear was super funny imo.

I have to do things in fits and bursts. Focusing too long on something makes me hate it. But, hey, whatever works.

I have no special affinity for Vi, so if you wanna do her, feel free.
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We all dream of the day the deserts return to glory again...

True, tbf i would say that league is, fairly good with balance in last 1-2 years, there are still champions that riot keeps as their "personal pets" who always need to be good but, it does feel like playing "bad" champions is not as trash as it used to be. You can definetely work with off meta picks whereas in some previous seasons i reeeally wouldnt agree with that.

Lol, ye

Hmm i see, more or less the exact opposite of me kinda.. But hey, whatever works as you said.

Mhm i see, whelp i will request her after i finish Ionia which i will go do right now.

Edit: Just about finished Xayah, Rakan and Yone and with that seemingly Ionia is complete
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Thought I had sent something last night... I was mistaken.

Yup, Desert needs love. Tundra needs love. Battlecast lore needs to be updated. Lots to do.

Well, that's good to hear. I don't have much experience with the main game anymore, but I've been impressed with the balance of TFT. I legit feel there more affinities have some kind of synergy.

Blurble blurble death comes for the betrayer.

I looked at all of em and they look all look good to me. I think Bilgewater and the Isles are finished as well now with Graves. What does that leave us with then: Demacia, Noxus, Piltover, Zaun, Bandle City, Mt Targon... Any I'm forgetting there. Oh! I updated Teemo with Pocket Dimensions because I was watching all of the cinematics they've made and his backpack apparently canonically has infinite storage capacity because he put a freaking sea serpent in there. Also explains the infinite shroom supply. I kinda wanna do Bandle City, if you don't mind. They're just all so goofy and I love it.
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Tbf, i am rather forgetful too, and have forgoten to do that, uh, like 3 days ago or something so yea... League has left us weak and demented

Mhm yea Riot has been, kinda blowing it out of the sky for both (for most part)

Uhhh yea, i guess il take Noxus then since ye you dont like it (besides Sion) and you can absoluty take Bandle City, i dont find Yoooordles toooo entertaining, or rather, i love some of them, and then there are those like Tristana i reeeeeeeeeeeeeally find boring for most part. And yea good update good update, well done!

Oh and technically you forgot void but shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... And ofc if you want me to keep anyone besides Sion for you feel free to mention it!
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Probably something along those lines. Always be thinkin about the best combos or what I should be trying next.

Hopefully they can keep doin so. I've been playin around with a Teemo/Cait deck on LoR and having fun. Love making the opponent kill themselves by drawing.

Sounds like a plan to me then. I do like Sion quite a bit, but if you wanna do him while I'm busy with the Yordles, there'll be no hard feelings. I have just been enjoying the Yordles through the cinematics recently. Especially Corki. He's such an idiot and I love it.

Oh yes, the Void. They're not exactly the largest faction, so dealing with them shouldn't be an issue. I'll get on Bandle City stuff once I finish up Gwen and Vex's stats.
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Oh, Teemo and Cait, the bane of my existnance as it really shits hard on my meme soraka/kench deck, all i wanna do is heal and eat people but the shrooms and the bombs always end up killing me and my low health units.

¸Oh nah its completely cool, Noxus is a rather big region after all so i probably wont be done with all of them in some time. And yes, the yordle cinematic gives them all and especially Corki plenty of justice. Those cinematics are some of the best league content around.

Aight bet bet, sounds good to me.
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I've also found getting the cards is the easiest of the decks, so that's another reason I've leaned into it. I still need to tinker with the Braum Poro deck, but I haven't gotten it quite right yet.

I'll totally admit I'm super shaky on the lore of the region as well. They just kinda seem to be dicks to be dicks. I just like the silly charm of the Yordles is all. They clash and work with the setting so well. And in the one where Graves captures Teemo, I crack up seein TF just sitting there like, I told ya so.

I also need to finish Karthus. But I also stupidly uploaded all of Ultraman Belial's forms at once and I forget the sheer amount of shit he can do. Takin a while to do those.
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Hmmm i see i see, heard Yuumi and Galio came out like a few days ago too right? Seen any in play yet?

Oh absolutely, man, i would pay for an Arcane type series with Graves and TF as the protagonists, they have the perfect "Road to El Dorado" vibe annnnd god did Riot turn them into a great combo over the years. Just them being on dumb adventures would be perfection.

Ahhh i see, ey all in due time, kinda busy myself so ye but alas.
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I just double checked that they aren't in yet. I think they're coming in the next expansion which drops on the 16th.

Holy crap, that'd be such a great series. Really allow them to do a whirlwind tour of all of the regions as they try to swindle themselves out of every problem they create!

I think I have Karthus and Vex ~finished~ if you want to take a look. Kinda pondering if Vex should be t1 or t2, though. I've started work on Gwen as well, so I should knock her out fairly quickly (within the next day).
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Mhm mhm i seee, well since they are a topic, new udyr also got kinda revelead i LoR. Some people have however told me thats supposed to be a younger version of udyr than the one we are getting in the game, pretty cool tbf.

Yeap yeap, i think that honestly at this point, there is no pair more charismatic and fun than TF and Graves in league, and its kinda not even close at least imo, the ammount of synergy those two idiots have is otherwordly

All 3 look good for most part, uh, karthus looks the best out of them all and id legit change nothing. For Vex the only thing id change is give her some level of "power bestowal" because she was the one that amplified Viego's magic for the ruination annd tbf i would have her at tier 2 imo, but ye.

Gwen is a weird one because of how her mist works both ingame and how its explained in sentinels of light, in game it kinda implies some sort of intangiblity but thats vague af, in sentinels of light tho it can seemingly make both her and others around her invisible, along with making all of them intangible at the very least against the harrowing creatures but yeeeea (here in case you have no idea what i mean https://youtu.be/Wk_ZmJ3zaaw?t=516 ). Besides that tho she can actually seemingly make portals with her magic (as she creates one in her recalls for example) and she can also turn back into her doll version at will and make her scissors smaller again, so, id give her some level of transformation too. She can also fly on her scissors as weird as that is and more or less control them while not touching them and whatnot. Maybe i would also give her low level weapon summoing since her ult is just her creating her magical needles but, yea uh. Thooose would be my suggestions from the top of the mind, hopefully at least some of them work
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Hmm, I'll have to see what they add for him in LoR. I've been playing a decent amount recently, so I'll try to keep up.

Yup, they're just a huge amount of fun. I will say they need like a dog or something... Oooooooo, maybe they could grab Gnar/Kog'Maw for a bounty and end up becoming partners that way.

I updated Vex accordingly, as I knew I'd miss something for her. I did put it as power augmentation instead of bestowal, as that seems to work better.

I put all of the vague ones at the lowest level and added your suggestions as well. I also raised her purification to max based on what I was reading about the original Mists and their effects. I think she should be finished then, if I am not mistaken. I see that Lulu. Corki and Trist have been accepted, so I'll get them ready asap.
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I see i see, quite opposite here since yet to log in since the last expansion with Ahri and Kennen

Oh boy, them kidnapping him thinking he is a yordle and then having to just drag him around as nobody wants to buy him would be hilarious, especially when all 3 of them start working together, perhaps they use him for some grand heist of theirs or whatnot, either way would be pure greatess

Oh shit, yea mb i forgot power augmentation existed, it definetely works better alright.

Mhm i see i see, well great job yet again, and damn ye, the yordle squad themselves, without the rock this time unfortunately. (A weird realization just hit me that, that rock has more lore than Shaco)
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I've only played a couple of pvp games and haven't run into anyone running a deck with them. I keep coming back to the same conclusion that my decks aren't up to snuff yet and go back to grinding the story missions (which I do not mind).

Yeeeeeessssss. And like Koggy eats all the Serpents from their heist and they're just all "shucks, but he's such a good pup." And then Koggy calls them his daddies and we have a new happy family!

I forget about powers all the time, no worries.

I think I have Trist done. She came out a little low, though. And Corki's a wip. Idk if he's too low or not because his ROFLcopter complicates things. I think I'm going to add to Lulu one of her relatives (alongside Pix) is the rock, which she is body guard of. No one will notice it and that makes it better. And yeah, poor Shaco. We really need to learn he's freakin Pennywise or something.
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Mhm i see i see, and yea i mean, story missions are amazing, maybe even best addition they did to LoR as a whole since before them pvp was the only real thing around.

Lol, yeap, and all 3 of them sail away in a really small ship into the sunset with Graves complaining on why he has to be the one paddling. Perfection

Hmm yea i imagine tristana as more of a 100-110 range one, hmmmm, not sure if anything could be added/changed tho. Yea, Corki, probably fits like a 150 most so, but, current one is also okay i guess, still uh all abilities seem completely fine, dont really remember his lore too much so really cant comment too much on what could be added/changed. And yes, that is utterly crucial, the only thing more important than that is assuring Urgod's name is known but thankfully that was already achieved. And yea i mean, man, i think riot either really needs to make him a full demon, extremely scary shit like Fiddle, or, legit keep his lore what it is and just let him stay as a permanent meme.
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I do like getting the two story paths for each of the Piltover/Zaun folk. Like Jayce and Viktor becoming bffs again is great.

Yeeeeeeesssssss. We need to send this to the Riot cinematics department!

I upped a couple of her things and boosted combat to 70 and got her to 97, but I really can't justify pushing any of her other stuff further. 3 lower than expected isn't bad, though. Corki's lore is literally 2 paragraphs and the short, it's hilarious. I moved a couple things around on him and 134 seems satisfactory, as he is piloting a machine designed exclusively for murder. On Lulu, I also added guarding the Rock as one of her occupations. I hope some day someone other than us gets a kick out of these memes πŸ˜†. Oh gosh, now that you mention permanent meme status would be worth keeping his lore as is. Or just establish him as some kind of cryptid in canon that's actually based on just the worst murderer ever.
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Yeap yeap, we need more of them, honestly dont find most parts of piltover/zaun lore that interesting but Viktor and Jayce are for sure my favourite parts. (And just heimerdinger existing is 2nd best ofc)

Hmmm yea, thats fine in the end after all. Ye, he was finally meta too suprisingly, until riot removed him after around a month of being viable... Yes, ive seen it, and it is beautiful, it shall withstand the test of time forever! Yeap yeap, just, keep shaco as a joke cause god damn, his community makes him funny, shaco memes are always great.

But alas uh, after a bit of a forced break due to "wifi issues" (to not trash talk the ISP too much) ive returned! Started working on all the noxus stuff a bit ago, updated only riven for now tho cause not much time in mornings but il be done with Leblanc and Swain by end of today and the il request the rest.

Edit: Finished up Swain, wasnt really sure if he should be tier 3 cause weeee dont really know how much of Raum's power he can actually use, tier 2 sound like a very safe estimate for now tho id say, any thoughts on how he looks?
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As much as I used to hate playing against Heimer (just suuuuuch static gameplay), I do love his personality and affectations. Also loved his Poro in Arcane.

Happy it all meets your standards, ha. And yes, Shaco memes are the best. Oh! Did you see the user that tried to make his own Kayle profile with his OC slot. It's pretty funny.

Ahhhh. Happens to the best of us. I didn't really notice anything that needed to be changed on Riven, so thumbs up for her. I would also agree on your assessment of Swain's tier (I can't think of anything to justify past 2), although the only thing I would add is low or medium precognition due to him seeing glimpses of the future. Other than that, excellent work. I'm workin on everyone's favorite evil boy Veigar now and once I'm done with him I'll finish up Yuumi. 😽
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Porofessor is the best pet one can hope for indeed. As far as gameplay goes, in the "how much i hate playing against" Heimer would only score a low 3/10 or 4/10 at worst, i kinda like playing against him especially compared to the current meta picks that tear my ass to shreds.

Yeeea i did, catch me by surpise ngl at all, i guess i should've expected it tho? Dunno havent been on the site for too long after all. Either way uh, a rather random and unexpected occurance.

Aight cool cool, will add that right now and then il probably go finish Leblanc after which il request most of the other Noxus folk. And ah yes, The Tiny Master of Evil shall reign supreme! Honestly he is definetely among my couple favourites for sure (Unlike Yuumi, she is a mistake)
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I don't think that was around when I was actively playing (if that shows you how long I've been without a true fix). And, don't get me wrong, I knew how to deal with him, he just always resulted in a super stale lane. Althoooooouuuuuggggghhhhhhhh... support Donger can be fun! 😁 Who all are the current meta mids? Akali? Voli? Soraka?

Usually get that kinda thing from uber newbies. I think he just wanted the alignment of her changed too? Idk, it's just so silly and dumb and a waste of an OC slot.

Cool cool. I'll look at LB whenever you're ready. When I do my next wave I'll add Sion then. What do you think of Veigar's stats? He feels a tad high, but that might be just because the time manipulation his e does has a high value. Idk. And yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the cat. Like, she's a neat idea, but I always felt her unsatisfying to play.
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Lol, you got a majestic, 0-3 there, granted there are some people that keep trying to force soraka mid to work in soloq, and it juuuust doesnt, havent won a game with it yet. Still still yknow, um, Akali is fine but far from the monster of SoloQ she used to be when she just got reworked.

Yea, im still saving my 3 slots as if they were made of diamonds, too valuable to use up so willy nilly.

Aight will do, probably gonna be ready in 20ish mins or but i will inform ya. Hmmm, yea they are a bit high, i imagined them being more so at around a 450-550 or so ish range but its not too crazy, besides that he looks really good, really glad you used his LoR appearance, i fucking adore that thing (And his level up animation is the single best thing in league canon). Mhm, gameplay wise, she is as big of a mistake as tryndamere, despise her to the core, thankfully she aint no longer pick or ban.

Edit: Only thing id change about veigar is give him some level of homing attack cause well, ulty ye. Oh and, i think "Evil Sorceror" should be spelt as"Evil Sorcerer"

Edit 2: Leblanc is done!
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Dangit, my dreams of bear mid are shattered again... Soraka just wasn't made to live outside of bot lane, unfortunately. I'm surprised they haven't buffed Akali through the roof, she's always seemed to be one of Rito's faves ngl.

I bought a thing for a few bucks back around Xmas time. Figured it helps support the site and I can make memey Frogs.

I knew I was forgetting something! Thank you. And yeah, that's where I thought the Tiny boy was gonna land, but the time manipulation really amps his stats, but he does do it... idk. I generally prefer the LoR art. It's just generally better framed and all that good stuff. Yuumi's also one I struggle to figure out a way to fix her flaws, as it's just part of her naturally. And she just ends up being more annoying than effective in most cases. Hate her in TFT too.
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So are my of bear top, he just kinda blows nowadays : /. And i mean tbf, about Akali, they have kinda, i think Riot decided to put leave her at a good spot cause, either she was always too trash or so OP she was perma banned, now she is good tho. Hoooowever they now have a different pair of favourites, most notably Ahri and Riven, they are somehow dodging all the nerfs eventho they all so much deserve them.

Mhm mhm, yea id probably help myself but money is reeeally short lately, would be glad to turn on an option to turn on more ad's tho, it aint much but i really dont mind them so yea (besides those that spawn while editing profiles, those are annoying)

Yeap yeap, LoR art is just legit, fucking awesome, i think there are maybe only a couple arts where i prefer the regular one. Best example Ezreal cause ngl i think they messed his face up really damn bad in LoR, he looks kinda nasty. Mhm, she gonna be annoying af in LoR too so i guess Riot is keeping that as a core of her identity.

Oh and since seemingly i edited my message just as you were sending yours, leblanc is done and dusted, gonna go request the other ones
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Lord, I have always hated Riven. She's such a pain to deal with and so spamy! Ahri was never tearing it up when I played, but damn could she get strong. Used to not think much of her, but Ruined King made her an actual character, so at least on that front I like her.

That's not a terrible idea to pitch to Galactus. I do the $3 a month thing, which doesn't really hurt me financially at all. Part of the perks of steady employment, I guess.

Oh yeah, I hate Ez's art. He looks so off model. Like maybe too young or something? They really need to redo his art, although I do like his deck. I haven't had the misfortune of going up against her yet, but I'm not looking forward to it. I am excited for Gnar, though! His art is so stinkin cute and the fact he flips back and forth is awesome. Just wish we would get a picture of him in both forms!!

Looked over LB and she looks good. I kinda go back and forth on whether or not her ult clone should be deemed duplication, but it works either way. I think I have Yuumi done and dang does she and book have a crap load of abilities. Set those all to low, though, because they have cast time and such in the lore.
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Ahri has always been kinda just boring before ruined king yea, she kinda just existed as the "ah yes the fox girl, okay" but thats about it, nowadays she is extremely strong because, riot gave her a mini rework where her ult gets an extra dash and heals her every time she gets a kill/assist, soooo, instead of 3 its 3-8, with healing, yea

I see i see, well maybe i hit him up with it, will see.

Yeeea he just looks, not like Ez. Still 90% of them are just amazing beyond amazing. And yea that would be neat, very neat alright, one way or another i am rather happy with how Riot has been handling the new releases into LoR, both fast and all are still pretty darn unique so ye well done to them i suppose.

Yeeaaa kinda same, especially since she has at least a couple clones (or duplicates) in lore too but unfortunately neither in game or lore do they ever do anything that specific so felt cloning felt more accurate but alas. And mmmhmm, honestly having a "house cat on a book" be higher than most regular champions is a bit nerve wracking but, book is book after all so, yeeeee. But yea my "personal dislike" of yuumi aside she looks great. (Id only add Book as one of her relatives cause, book)
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I could see her maybe getting one free dash from a kill, but to have it keep going sounds pretty oppressive. Why not just start applying that to every ult at that point?

They have definitely done a good job in LoR making the champs build around cards that push your deck into a specific direction. It's really nice imo.

Yeah, either power works and she looks good, so it's nbd. I hate Yuumi having such a high power stat as well due to the system rewarding those that have a bunch of abilities instead of a refined few, but her low combat and durability here should make arguing for her death pretty simple overall. And good call, I added Book as a relative and her job as its protector.

I'm working on Rumble now and I can't decide between these two for his pic (I'll obvs crop them). Any thoughts?

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Becauuuuuse, yea. I mean i know these are always "conspiracy theories" and i dont like believing them most of the time but i truly believe they are keeping her broken so when they give her a visual update sometime very soon people buy more of her "reworked" skins.

Agreed agreed

Mhm ye agreed agreed, cause i mean, both yuumi and Book are kinda, idiots as far as combat goes, a whole load of people with less rating than them would absolutely wash them as is buuuut yea.

Hmmm, id probably go for the second one, but truth be told purple or anything vaguely purple is always the winning one for me, favourite color and all that

Oh and since i am waiting for new noxus ones to get accepted, ima go and slowly start thinning out the random ones i have left, probably gonna start with Sona or something easy.
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Hrrrrrrm. That may in fact be a factor at play in their decision making, but I hope that's not true. Maybe someone keeps forgetting to actually apply the change each patch. πŸ˜‚

Yeah, without someone to partner with, Yuumi is probs gonna almost always lose. She's just a house cat with some mild magical abilities and a book with a bunch of spells.

Hmmm, yeah. Plus it looks much better compositionally speaking. Easier to see he's lil and also in a mech.

Oh, yes, the unpleasant task of updating the empties. I have Fizz and Sion on request now. I think I'll tackle the remaining Void bois afterwards. I'm thinking about adding lowest level physics manipulation to the void characters, as they do at least partially ignore normal physics. It'll probs give them a good buff, but hopefully the base stats will communicate their limitations fairly well.
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~Continuation~
Working on Galio right now. Idk, he doesn't feel right to me yet.
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Oh, thanks, even if its just visual i love watching those kinda videos, will check the channel out in a bit.

Mhm mhm, okay yea nice Ahri stuff all around, only thing id change is maybe place combat a bit higher at like 45 or 50 since she has been around for a couple hundred years at the very least, although i guess she isnt that great at controlling her powers so hmmmm. Eiiither way, that aside, everything looks great, she might get even more stuff ironically enough because Riot has announced she would be the new small VGU champion, because... "her model is outdated" (Meanwhile im over here drowning in chogath and malphite land)

Always will be, always will be great.

Damn, Thresh really be on his villain shit, but thats why we love him he might even be the most pure evil of all the league villains. Hmmm, yea, how about we read up on other aspects or just generally from people of targon first before deciding where we go with him? Maybe we get some more justification to where we can put him and whatnot that way?

Aight, thanks for checking her out!

And uhh, Galio looks fine at least now when i look at it, he is a good, giant "stone" golem
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I usually watch their fakemon stuff, but they're all pretty talented artists.

Fair enough. I'm seeing if she does anything else crazy or whatnot too. And really? She looks fine. Poor Cho and Malph only ever got texture updates. They need the love more! And then they and our lord and savior need to get Star Guardian skins!

I've always liked minion masters and his was the closest to the way I pictured it in my head.

Yeah, Thresh is much more imposing in the game than I'm used to. Even had a literal demon he had ensnared into his service before the crew drove it back to wherever it came from. I think once we get a litmus test on the other aspects, we can get back to him, as he should be comparable, but much more fabulous. For now, I'll leave him in limbo.

Keine problem. Danke. I'll finish the edit on him for now and maybe I'll come back to him later and reassess.

Oh, I was reading we're getting a Nunu game with Lissandra as the villain. Supposed to be a puzzle game of some sort. Song of Nunu is the name, I think.

Edit: Just did both Thresh and GP's fight. Confirmation Thresh can teleport and open portals at will. He was only trying to delay the party, though, so it wasn't really a true show of his power. Ruined Gangplank is a thing, though. I'd say he's at least tier 2. He can create explosive "barrels" out of the mist (and a gun too), levitates and can turn the mists into a barrier that heavily weakens non-true damage. All of that on top of his previously granted mist control. Not a bad glow up at all.
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Hey didnt find no Tryndamere video, but, i did watch the chogath one, definetely gonna subscribe to them

Aight aight. Annnd yea, they confirmed it in their 40 minute season 12 plans stream/video, she will be the next, caitlyn level VGU, or well since you probably havent seen that one the Ezreal level VGU. Absolutely! Star Guardian cosplay Urgot is not enough, we need a magical bois Urgod, The Rock and Cho to save us from the dangers of the universe, for nobody else can!

Mhm same, same, although well as long as something scales (and doesnt really on auto attacking since my right hand is trash af) really well into late i will like it, thats probably the most common similarity between my picks.

Oh an actual full demon and not just an Azakana? If so damn, Thresh truly do be something else nowdays. And yea agreed agreed, once we finish others, we will get to the most fabulous of them all

Oh damn really? Okay i generally dooont like freljord that much as a region but thats sounds perfect for a more simple game for riot to make, thanks a bunch for the info.

I know im mentioning it again but its kinda the same topic but anyways, in the sentinels of light Thresh does actually completely wash the entire sentinel squad after he takes Viego's powers, more or less oneshots them all with 1 attack so, yknow, he is probably among the strongest villains, at that point ofc ofc. And yea i mean for GP, someone who was before it for most part a "Stinky cruel pirate that overjuices on citrus fruit", quite a good glow up for sure.
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Oh, I mean they were doing a Shyvana series. At least they had posted about it on Twitter. But yeah, I like their League videos.

Oh yeah, the Ez glow up was good. I think the last I played was season 9 or 10 and then I moved to TFT as my connection got worse. I mean, if they didn't want to make the big boys Star Guardians, they could do something like in the Power Puff Girls and make them a Rowdy Ruff Boys analogue. 😁

They only refer to Amon as a Demon without any other terminology, so he might be, although no specifics are given. You don't fight him, merely get his true name through some miniboss fights to force him out. I love Taric, but I really hope he ends up being tier 3 max. Planetary fabness would be overwhelming.

Yeah, I was just reading up on it. Looks cute, although not a huge amount is known except what I gave you. I do wanna see Nunu beat Lissandra at a game of Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine to save the Freljord, though.

Oh yeah, he's stupid strong based on how after you beat him he's just like "Ohhhhhh noooooooo. My plans are totally foiled. Whatever will I dooooooo?" And then he teleports away. He also does have OHKO moves he can use in the fight and just doesn't, which further cements your point. Yeah, the GP fight was good. He was probably only about as strong as Illaoi or Ahri, but Viego was just using him so he could go to Bilgewater unmolested. Surprised GP didn't get a Ruined skin in the main game now. You can also unlock Ruined versions of the main characters, although there's no gameplay benefit.

I'm working on Pyke, Hec and Yorick now. As of writing this, only Pyke is done, but let me know what you think.
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Yea they are a nice channel

Mhm yea basically Ahri gonna get that too and, they plan to do a lot of those this year, which is nice. We can only hope but, coooonsidering what the new skinlines have been lately i would be very suprised if we got rewarded like that

Hmmmm, i see, well Riot is generally rather consistent when it comes to differentiating Azakana and demons so, i guess Thresh is just somethin else. Oh yea like, id say tier 4 is definetely a bit too much, tier 3 would make more sense since well, he doesnt reeeally do that much but still as a full aspect host he should be at least somewhat close to a half host like Morgana/Kayle, still we gonna see alright.

Lol, well they have been saying that "Nunu and Willump will be important in the Freljord" for a while now, so i can see the two of them double teaming the coldest gamer on the north Lissandra and saving everyone

Mhm i see, still very very good for GP, even if he was just, getting used more or less. About him getting a skin in the main game i guess, they maybe didnt want to spoil the Ruined King game stuff, especially since GP has been seen as dead in lore for ages, or well by MF and most of bilgewater that is. Hmm i see i see, all i knew is that Viego revives some of the champions in his bossfight but extra cosmetics are always cool

They all look pretty good, was expecting Pyke to be a bit higher tbf, more so in the 150-200 range but, yea. Only thing i would change is uhhh, change Yorick's immortality into longevity since, he has been alive since destruction of the ruined isles, but he isnt really immortal in the same way as the other shadow isles people since he TEEEEEEECHNICALLY isnt a part of the black mist, so whether he would get revived by it if he died is questionable. Oh and i would also give non-physical interaction to Hecarim since well, as one of the spirits of the black mist he should be able to touch other spirits, as even the regular wraiths can do it if that makes sense?

Edit: Gone and updated Viktor and Syndra for now. Viktor most definetely has my favourite short story all around, its just, extremely wholesome in the best perfect way. (just like metal)
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I mean, it would be the ultimate fan service. People have been clamoring for Star Guardian Urgot since the line released. I guess there's pajama guardian, but that doesn't count!

Yeah, the monk's spirit you contact to find the demon's name is like, "Thresh did what now!?!" as it's implied Thresh bound the Demon to his service without knowing its true name. That'd make sense being comparable to that. I'll sit on him, though, until we get to Targon.

I mean, I've always liked Nulump, but I didn't see him getting a game before the Dunkmaster or whatever.

Too bad, he looks cool. I was also perusing the Ruined skins and was a little taken aback that Karma got ruined but not someone like Varus or Syndra. And MF doesn't make a whole lot of sense either, as far as the Ruined King game stands (but I won't spoil that plot point).

Updated those a little more. Pyke scoring a little lower is because even in the canon of the story, he heavily relies on stealth to kill the characters he does. Without the element of surprise, he falls off super hard and gets outshined in combat by Yasuo and Braum. I touched up Yorick and Hec too with your suggestions. :)

Looked at em. I'd probably add mechanical aptitude to Viktor, but besides that, they look great.
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True! We want the real deal Riot! Eventho Pajama Guardian is one of my most prized earnings from them hextech crates

Damn, nobody ever in the lore has absolutely destroyed a demon the same way Thresh has, cant wait to see what Riot does next with him cause sheeesh all this is such good villain stuff, more thresh Rito pls. Bet bet

Thaaat i do agree with, but i mean hey, Riot is spamming them games, ruined king, the ekko game thats gonna be released, nunu game, and there is even that mobile phone Ziggs game, League as in the series is probably doing about as great as it ever has all things considered.

Yeea uhhh, Karma was really really random, especially since, uhhh, she turned Ruined FULLY offscreen in the story, they kinda really really messed up with some of the Ruined and Sentinel champion decisions, MF especially cause oh boy i want to rant how she turned ruined so fucking bad but i dont want to spoil so il wait for you to allow me because it is by far the worst of all the ruined champions. And yea uhh like, Varus and Syndra make far more sense, buuut ohhh well (At least it wasnt Akali or one of the other 50 skin champions : / )

Mhm i see i see, yea okay is good. And aight thanks thanks

Holy shit, i cannot believe i missed that, gonna add it right now cause, mechanical aptitude for Viktor is about as obvious as Omnipotence for Urgod, truly blasphemous what ive done and thanks a whole lot for noting it.
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I would also accept Pool Party Urgot on the condition he's in a bikini.

Yeah, I'm really confused why Thresh even thinks he needs to revive Viego to take over the Serpent Isles. Pretty sure he could do it himself, but villains gotta scheme.

I haven't played the Ziggs one, but I've been happy with Ruined King. It'd be cool to explore Shurima or somewhere else in the same style. Maybe they could finally do Azir v Xerath!

Honestly, the only ones that make sense to me are Shyv and Pantheon. Viego has such a short temper in his game that I can't imagine he'd tolerate Draven's antics. If they wanted to pick a member from each faction, I'd say probably Syndra (Ionia), Nautilus (Bilgewater and bc he needs love), and Vladimir/Sion (Noxus). At least, those would be my picks disregarding popularity.

I am so close to finishing RK, lol. Oh, what do you think of focusing our efforts on specific regions/factions before we move on to others? Might allow us to be a bit more efficient.

Vik looks perfect now.

Edit: I've just now unlocked the legendary weapons for our heroes. They canonically gain them, so do you think they should be included? I snapped pics of the descriptions too, if I can figure out how to post them too.

Edit2: Just finished Ruined King and... Miss Fortune's ruination makes sense now. At the end after you've beaten Viego, MF is trying to force him into the Buhru amulet. There, he makes psychic contact with her and shows her she could truly rule Bilgewater with his power. Illaoi snaps her out of it and they finish sealing him, but from then on MF has a teal-ish tint to her eyes and becomes transfixed on killing GP once and for all and bending Bilgewater to her will. So, yeah, it looks like Viego corrupted her then. Still woulda chosen the Naughty Lass for ruination, but story-wise, it does make sense now.
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Yes, and a very big water gun for his right arm, the left arm can have one of those small floaty things on his bicep, that would be amazing yes.

Well technically he does it because he also wants to be fully free from the mist so he can roam the world, which he does achieve after the entire sentinels thing sooo i guess perhaps that.

Please riot, please gimme Xerath v Azir, its been almost 6 years now since a lore update, hell id even take just a regular event at this point nothing more.

Mhm, yea id pick the same champs more or less, but i would go for uhh, Sion over vladimir, although actually no, i would like to see more Vladimir and Viego interactions, they are the only direct family the other have so, could be nice interactions for sure.

Oh,, would definetely help us around so ye great idea, already got ideas what we should focus on or whatnot?

Hmmm, okay so they are fully canon? If so, yea they should get them, about posting images well you can just upload them on imgur and then send the link and whatnot, kinda scuffed yea buuuut, no other alternative i can think off at least

Hmmm i see, yea i guess it makes more sense then, because before the game she was legit the only one of all the ruined champions that fully sided with viego without any mind/mist shenanings which was just, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yea. Its much better now thankfully thankfully.

Also fuck me you are fast af with the whole game, any final thoughts now that you've fully finished it?
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Yeeeeeeeees. And maybe give him that Alolan Dugtrio hair.

Ah, that makes sense. He's much the manipulator in Ruined King. Reminds me of Mark Hamil's Skeletor now that I think of it. I have been working on his profile, if you wanna check it out. He came out a bit higher than expected.

I mean, I honestly think Shurima would benefit heavily from the kind of deep dive a Ruined King-like game could provide. Start out with Sivir and/or Ez tomb raiding and then have its scope grow larger and recruit Nasus and such along the way. Just, y'know, let us fast travel.

Maybe if they do a Ruination part 2. I mean, they could just have the next line be side stories that happened during the event. Or have Veigar try to use the mist so we could get Ruined Veigar attempting to take over Bandle City.

Well, the two we're closest on are Ionia and Freljord, so it'd make sense to finish those up before hitting some of the other factions (probably Zaun and Piltover bc of Arcane). I think I can tackle the non-Demis in Freljord fairly easily and you seem to have a good handle on Ionia.

Yup, they're canon weapons. They even have them at the end cutscenes. I'll see about uploading the pics to imgur tonight when I get home. I know Yas gets Stormrazor and MF makes her mom's final guns, which are supposed to be able to punch through Galleons, which is legit crazy.

I appreciate the explanation provided, but it's still kinda lame imo. And her Ruined design in RK I like better than the in game skin.

Soooo, I liked the story and the primary combat was good. Every character felt like themselves and the ults felt so good to use. I reall enjoyed the exploration, but I will always complain about the back tracking bs. The quests for the legendary weapons were also usually accomplished by normally playing through the game thoroughly, too, so that was appreciated. An easier way to switch party members would've been appreciated as well. I also liked the rest chats you could get, where you find out Braum has a poro that lives in his pauldron. Overall, I really liked it, but it had a few rough edges that needed tweaking. Really want another game in this style with a bit wider scope, preferably.
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Okay, here goes:

Illaoi's


Pyke's


Yasuo's


Miss Fortune's


Ahri's


Braum's (which is the true finished version of his door)



Couple quick ones too...

This is the creature Braum was able to match strength with:



Oh, and you get to fight an avatar of Nagakaborous (which was harder than the Viego fight)


I really shoulda been taking more screenshots, but only though of it when I started getting the weapons.
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If only if only

Woah, yea he did end a lot higher than expected, i was more so expecting around 1.5k to 2k. But i mean hey, honestly considering how Riot has been treating him as more or less the main villain of Runeterra (aside from the void but thats literally the void), i suppose it shouldnt be that suprising. I even double checked everything just to make sure but yea like, everything does seem completely good, so, i guess Thresh is already just really fucking strong, which i mean he is but man one can only wonder what he is gonna have with Viego's power on top of it cauuse yea.

Ye, i mean i would love that, hell even if it was the same type of game i would probably just play it cause well, Shurima is probably my favourite region so it would be too hard to resist. But yea uhh, can defintely see it, maybe the story can begin with Sivir just taking the deal from Cassiopeia, so we can start a bit earlier than the Xerath and Azir stuff while also fleshing out Sivir a bit more cause frankly she is just a less cool greedier Samira rn at least in my eyes.

Ohhhhh, that would be interesting, i mean i honestly do like the idea of Ruined skins, or well to be more specific i love any lore related skins, hell freljord Sylas is one of my favourites and its just sylas in a "jacket". But that aside Ruined skins are decent to good appearance wise and could actually be used to progress the story of a lot of the character so id be all for it. Plus, especially after how fucking lovely they made Veigar in Legends of runeterra (best level up animation no comparison) i would kill for more Veigar content.

Sounds like a plan if you ask me, lets try finishing up Ionia and Freljord then and as far as Voli and co go we can just double team them or whatnot.

Damn, well okay, id say id be waiting happily for you to post them but i can see them a bit lower down so will be more than happy to see them when i get there

I do actually agree since it actually makes her look well, ruined and whatnot instead of just, MF but in black clothes and hair dye, hate the appearance of the ruined guns since, "shark guns" ooookaaaaay?

Mhm mhm, okay well always happy to see Riot pull it through, all around good but rough due to some annoying mechanics, oh well i guess it could be expected due to Covid and whatnot but ye.

But aight for the weapons now:
-So Illaoi well, i guess it would just kinda be a stronger version of her current idol (with a bit worse appearance imo since it looks like a bilgewater bootleg but shhh)

-Oh, so Pyke gets duskblade? I guess that poses an interesting question of whether Pyke would be able to go fully invisible now since thats what the item does in the game?

-Okay i mean hey pretty good stuff for Yasuo, if he wasnt tier 2 before he should be with stormrazor due to well the whole description thing, plus electricity/storm shenanigans so, pretty fkin good

-And there are MF's guns, yea damn, might legit be the strongest created weapon in the world? Aside from idk, presumably Diana's sword or like Mordekaisers mace but all those are kinda just magic enhanced anyways so shhhhhh. Good stuff alright, should she be bumped up a tier and given like explosion stuff and all that things? I think i need to update MF anyways since she was the first champion i added so i dont think ive done that good of a job

-Definetely the most "hmmmmm" of all the weapons, cause im not even sure what to take out of that to be honest...

-Ornn door 2.0 lets go!!! I mean hey even greater defence is always good, i will say one thing tho, i really dont like its appearance, not even cause it looks ugly or anything but just becuase i cannot see Ornn ever making a tool look like himself, he is too humble of a goat/ram thingy to "flex" like that

Thats a big fella, probably even bigger than the kraken Olaf fought in the shadow and fortune story, and olaf was even losing to it slightly when it comes to sheer strenght, so i suppose Braum is just consistently the strongest of the freljord people. Either way uhh, id say 50tons definetely makes sense and one could argue it could go even higher to perhaps 60 or so since that thing definetely weighs as much as some of the whales we got around here or whatnot

Whelp, does make sense since Naga coooooould be the strongest entity in the universe, at least if we fully follow whatever Illaoi says, cause it would kinda be the universe itself then. Funnily enough tho in the sentinels event Pyke becomes a somewhat of an avatar of Nagakaborous himself, or is well at least empowered by it, they dont specify tho.

Hey, you did an amazing job, even just these are great and thanks a lot for the huge effort!
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Yeah, I went over Thresh a few times and lowered his strength value and such, but couldn't really get him any lower. So, yeah, just based on what you've told me, I would assume Unbound Thresh is just him at tier 4 instead of 3 and probably increased durability and strength. Crazy.

Yeah, Sivir needs some love, especially because she's a lot of people's first ADCs. And the RK style is just the perfect way to explore these areas while pushing forward the narrative. Like, I seriously loved getting to see Maokai in action and how they implemented his move set from LoL into it so well. Be really cool if you could like recruit Susan and such after a boss fight or something, idk. Also make Braum show up for some reason because Braum.


Yeah, they did a really good job of integrating Viego's aesthetic into their Ruined forms while still maintaining the character's essence. MF's in LoL just looks like a Halloween costume. I also love Veigar's aesthetic and a story line where he actually becomes the lord of all evil on Runeterra would be phenomenal.

I'll see about finishing up the Freljord champs then. If I'm lookin at this right, it's Gnar, Gragas, Nunu, Olaf, Trundle, Tryndamere and Udyr. Udyr might be just a pic and bio one for a second, though, as I've read they might be revamping him in the near future.

Yeah, I was happy with it. Needed a little polishing, but that's just niggles. I wanna see more.

Yeah, Illaoi's seems to just channel Naga's power more efficiently and makes the tentacles more likely to appear. Might just add Divine Power to her at medium or high and max out awakened power (her final ult is empowered, which sees her briefly become a pure conduit for the Bouros). Other than that, I don't think there's much to change.

Yup... Yeah, I think adding shadow manipulation and invisibility to him with a low durability negation should be representative.

Yeah, Yas actually changes the wind currents in the Serpent Isles to speed up the Galleon your crew is on (I'm blanking on the name), which unloaded could weight between 500 and 1200 tons. He did get help from Ahri to sustain him, but that was a crazy feat. Oh, and Yas decisively defeated Yone and moved past that burden. He actually goes with Braum to the Freljord at the end of the game too.

Yeah, ummmmmmm, even going with a low ball for the Queen's Council, that would make them equivalent to a modern day low caliber cannon, which are capable of shredding concrete. And it actually makes her bullets super heated, causing all of her attacks to inflict the burn status effect. I don't think moving her from 1 to 2 is necessary, but upping her Danmaku and giving her heat gen and explosion would be the minimum imo.

Ahri's is more freeing for her. Because it's feeding her an infinite supply of essence, she's constantly in control (take that for whatever it's worth). It also boosts her magic based attacks and acts as a formidable physical weapon she can use with her telekinetic abilities.

Yeah, Ornn's Will looks dumb, but it boosts Braum's durability into the stratosphere. It looks to be generating heat as well, but no confirmation in entries or anything there. I'd say it just boosts his durability a fair amount.

^For the weapons, I'm going to add an entry into the profiles under the weapon category (surprise) so that if someone checks, they can see why they have these extra powers. I'll do a Braum one as an example, if you wanna take a peak in a bit.

Yeah, boosting Braum up to 60'll probably be fine. He is just so insanely strong compared to everyone else. He also punches several marble-like stone doors to pieces throughout the game. With a single punch, no shield.

That makes sense for Pyke. Illaoi tested him early in the game and Naga seemed to connect to him from that point forward. Nagakabouros reminds me a lot of the Lovecraftian Great Old Ones (unsurprisingly) in that she seems to be in a state of rest or the like and can only really influence events at specific spots (like a temple) or through communication with mortals. I hope there are more Buhru champs in the future, like a Serpent Caller or something.
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More or less yea, he hasnt done too much other great shit to warrant new abilities but he is definetely much better with them, dunno if you saw the unbound thresh short cinematic but damn is he awesome there. Here ya go juuust incase you havent, juuust incase


Oh you know as someone for whom Susan is the favourite champion id kill to be able to +12 some fodders in a RK style game, or just see him anywhere at all, and yes i mean if anyone from league deserves to be in anything its braum.

More or less yea. And yes, him actually becoming the master of evil instead of the, adorable evilish yordle of evil, that would be a fucking great story, or hell fuck it just give us a random skinline for it and boom, perfection

Aight, ima finish up the Ionia ones then first which should be, Ivern, Lillia, Wukong, Lighting Rat (yes im a top main i hate him), Rakan, Xayah, Varus, Sett, Yone and Yasuo (fuck me Ionia has a lot of champs) Although uhh, i would say its probably better if you do Yasuo since, RK and all that, ofc only if you want to that is? And yes Udyr is getting a full rework Mordekaiser style sometime in this year, we have already got clues of how he will look and its pretty good tbf, apparently they will make it so he can call upon the spirits of all the freljord demigods, hence bearstance = Volibear and lighting stuff, etc etc.

Yeap, both of those sound completely fine for Illaoi

Sounds about as good, feel free to go ahead ofc.

Damn, that is really crazy shit, well okay, i mean even just becoming stronger than Yone is nice since before he was at best kinda equal to Yone (when he is a zombie and not alive) but more realistically he was portrayed as weaker imo, either way yea uh, great Yasuo stuff.

Hmmm yea that sounds better tbf, ima change that up in a short ammount of time, thanks for the suggestions ofc

Hmmm, i guess she would just have much better stamina technically speaking then so thats still nice. And oh she can control that orb telekinetically too, similarly to how she controls her normal orb i assume?

Hmmm, yea at least the heat stuff and durability.

Yea il take a look ofc ofc, and after taking a look yea it looks good, il add the same type description for MF's guns.

Aight then 60 sounds completely fine for sure, Braum being braum after all

We can only hope for those more buhru champions because well, we did get a buhru sentinel in the sentinels event but he kinda, just got killed off-screen after doing essentially nothing iirc sooo.. could just be hope but yknow, we hope
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Oh my gosh, I love it. He's such a good villain! Simultaneously incredibly intimidating and good to his servants. Oooooooo, I wanna see more.

I really do want more dog boy. I love the Ancient Egypt aesthetic and it might be a good way to test the waters on some new champs for the region? I mean, why not try. I think Necrit needs to be added in from RK.

Maybe it could reference Masters of the Universe too. Just with the champs that get picked at least to be included in the line. Juxtaposition is great.

Alright, I can grab Yas then. And yeah, I was just noticing how many there are. Holy shit. They almost need to split Ionia up into two regions or something. Cool beans, Udyr's been needing an update for such a long time. No fun to play at all imo.

Updated all of the ones currently added. Yas is gonna be nuts, lol. Keine problem for Fortune. And yeah, Ahri can control it telekinetically. Maybe a couple of meters is her range with it.

Argh, that's so lame. The Buhru are really interesting and need at least one other to augment Illaoi.
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Yea i really really hope they fully fucking keep working on Thresh and give us more stuff, cause now that he is free and well, as strong as he is they can do a loooot of stuff with him. And well putting it plainly he is just amazing. Although from what Riot has been teasing just like last year was focused on the entire ruination stuff, this one will mostly focus on Void stuff and some freljord stuff with Voli, Ornn and Sej.

Mhm, yea agreed, granted, technically, we got Akshan from shurima although if ima put it bluntly, he does not feel shuriman at all... And yes, we need to purely cause well, its Necrit, we are legally obliged to do it.

Hmm, yea interesting idea alright interesting.

Aight thanks a lot. And yes ionia is huge af, only one of those champs i dont think i should be doing is, Varus, since he is a darkin so eeeventho he is counted as an Ionian, i kiiinda see him as far more of a shuriman, since well, darkin. And yea i played a total of 1 game of current udyr in my life, never never again.

Hey still a pretty good thing for Ahri, and lets not even mention the edgelord Yaz himself

Agreed agreed, but tbf, they did kinda shaft all the other non-champion sentinels there too : / (still less shafted than what they did to yorick there, they made him appear for a moment just so he can give them some water of life and the maiden, instead of having him join fighting viego)

And im done updating MF, both the weapon description and stats, i increased her Power and Combat a bit since i think i had it a bit low, any thoughts if its fine or?
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Man i just have to rant my heart out, riot released a new story and, man did they piss on Mantheon in it, they made Pantheon, the guy with the ultimate willpower give up because Viego beat his ass (thats how he got ruined Viego just kinda beat his ass and corrupted him). Viego gave PTSD to Pantheon so bad he gave up on fighting and even asked the wife of his best friend that died climbing the mountain with him if its fine if he gave up because "he lost so much". As a pantheon enjoyer i am fumed.

Oh and apparently he also lost all of his powers now after Viego defeated him in the sentinels of light thing, so like, yea.
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I really do like the path Thresh is on now. Givin him some time to cool off is good, though. Maybe he could hook up with Morde or something/offer his services to Noxus or Zaun or something (for a price). Ooooooooo, more void stuff is always welcome in my book. Maybe finally get Koggy's dad to make an appearance? Only been waiting... like 6 years for that plot point?

I need to do some reading into Shuriman lore. There's a lot I'm unfamiliar with, but their roster seems really lacking imo. Maybe they could try drawing some inspiration from enemies of Egypt? Like a charioteer Hittite inspired champ or someone along the lines of Gilgamesh mixed with Osiris. Or like someone akin to the Sea People that's like a Void invader or some such? This is the history nerd in me getting the better of me.

I could grab Varus too, if you'd like. I played him a fair bit in the past and his stories were interesting iirc.

Her getting it felt like closing her pursuit of the past in game. And that she needed to look to the future from that point forward. Similar to Yas as well, who found closure after his battle with Yone.

Yeah, Yorick not personally going to confront Viego feels... off. Like Maokai, that'd make sense because he's a part of the Isles, but Yorick can go where he pleases. I feel like they could have at least made him a Sentinel in the story and just released the skin later (as I presume time constraints were the issue). I've never expected for every member of a line to drop simultaneously.

MF looks great and checks out in my book.

Lord, that reminds me of how they did Sentry dirty in the King in Black story. Like, he's Mantheon, I think he can take the occasional defeat, especially against an Apocalyptic threat. Only thing I will say is that Viego can ruin your champs in Ruined King if he reduces their health to zero. Regardless, that's super lame.
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Mhm, yea, perhaps that could be where things are taken, it would be interesting to see him and Swain interact really so we can hope. About Koggy's dad, well, they did tease that one of the champion releases this year will be a new void monster broodmother type champ thats apparently got some sorta rivarly with Rek'sai sooo, maybe not quite koggy dad but good enough?

Oh no please do continue, i am an avid enjoyer of history myself (my most played games aside of league are map painter games, if you get the meme you get the meme) But yea no uhh i agree that would be cool since Shurima is very obviously ancient egypt inspired, one thing i would like to see as a champ perhaps is a fake ascended created by Xerath since that is kinda what he is doing right now, trying to create new ascended using his own power to recreate the empire, so having a champion of that sort would be pretty cool. Another 2 champions they could release, are the 2 remaining darkin, because Riot confirmed there are 5 darkin still alive on runeterra, 3 being Aatrox, Rhaast and Vaarus, and then they confirmed there was a mage female type of darkin still around and that the leftover one would probably be a support style darkin so as to have a darkin in each role.

Ye sure ya can grab Varus, i dont find demon pants too intriguing myself but his music video and comic are rather cool even still. Oh and thanks ofc. Any champions you dont care about at all so i can know to take them?

Yeap, both got their fair great ammount of deserved story development, damn, how fucking amazing would it be if everyone got that type of deal. I mean hey if riot keeps blowing things out of the sky like they have recently then over time "everyone" probably will, either way plenty of stuff to look forward to.

Unfortunately, Yorick was almost entirely axed, and yea i suppose time constraints did have an effect but, ima keep it completely honest i think sentinel champs were based purely on popularity since half of them dont make any sense, especially since people like Yorick or Ezreal who is already a sentinel exist. Having a Jarro Lightfeather skin for Ezreal would be something id love to see

Aight thanks for the checkup.

Yeeeap, i mean he already kinda almost died against Aatrox and he was far away from ever giving up, if anything it only strenghtened his resolve, which is his entire deal just kinda getting back up after losing and trying again buuuuuut yea... Eiiither way, in the sentinels event he can technically do the same, he mostly ruins the champions by stabbing them with his sword through their torso, or well, he did that in Pantheon's and MF's cases, although MF willingly allowed him to do it cause yea took his bargain. Karma was ruined fully off screen, Draven i dont remember and Shyvana kinda was already half corruptedish when we first see her.
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Those two would definitely get along until they'd exhausted the partnership's usefulness. Be a cool villain showdown. I guesssssss that'd work. Maybe Kog's species is hermaphroditic. I just want him to have his parental figure return to his life. πŸ˜₯

I have like ~3000 hours in Crusader Kings II, so I can sympathize. I think having Shurima pull in elements from other contemporary regions could be good for variety's sake and allow them some more creative freedom. But, yes, some ascended servants for Xerath would be good. Almost a clash between the new and old guard. And that makes sense for the Darkin. I like thematically consistent teams.

NP... Hmm, the champs I don't like is a fairly short list: Darius, Camille, Ekko, Riven and Sett. And you've already got one taken care of πŸ˜‹ I'm also unfamiliar with champs released after Sett, but I can get caught up pretty quick. My net has been cooperating for matches of TFT at ~300 ping, so I've gotten to know Vex to a degree because of course I'm building a Yordle team.

Yeah, lookin through the line, Rengar, Olad and Graves are nonsensical. Graves could've easily been ditched as they already had a Bilgewater champ on the line up with Pyke. Maybe they'll bring the idea back some day, idk.

NP

Can't expect perpetual victory, bro. I still can't get over Karma. Her fall is so random. And Draven has no power outside of throwing axes good. Why wouldn't Viego go for an actually powerful Noxian like Sion or some such???
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Yeap more or less, just both playing mind tricks with each other until they eventually figure out the other has to go. We can only hope we can only hope. Riot also teased some other champions but, i dont remember too well, apparently a new virus enchanter type of champ too but yea.

Hol up hol up, hooooold up, you are also a fellow enjoyer of CK2? The single only other game ive played as much or maybe even more than League??? Mhm agreed agreed on both.

Oh, so basically top lane in a nutshell and Ekko, which tbf as far as lore goes i dont quite like camille and riven, Ekko and Darius are kinda cool tho so happy to haer that. And yea yea, most of the new champs dont have too much stuff so it shouldnt be too hard but hey glad to hear wifi is good enough to... play tft at 300 ping... yea... very good wifi. But aghm yea thats nice, i did hear the yordle team is apparently really good in this set from a friend but i dont quite play TFT at all anymore so wouldnt know.

Yea, if they really wanted a champion from each region to be a sentinel, just take Braum from freljord or if for whatever reason we cant take braum take Nunu and Willump. But well, maybe they bring it back, we wait and see.

Yea... And i mean, like, damn, she is more or less the face of all spirit shenanigans in Ionia yet she got, corrupted off-screen, like damn Karma getting corrupted should be as big of a thing as being invaded by Noxus for any ionian yet it just kinda happened. Annnd yea, about Draven, legit they only did it so they can explain how Riven somehow escaped from the capital of Noxus and became a sentinel, because nothing else makes sense, taking Draven would be like going to Shurima being able to recruit any single person including the ascended, and he picks Sivir... suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. But alas unfortunately not much to be changed now so i guess we just gotta eat up their choices : /
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Swain is really cool and he could use the spotlight. Frick, even an actual Demacia v Noxus war would be cool. See everyone from those factions in actual battle attire would be cool. Hmmm, a virus enchanter could be cool. The Void has a lot of potential. Actually... I want them to release the guy that controls the void and have his name literally be Daddy (or pronounced Daddy) so that's what Koggy's been referencing this whole time. πŸ˜‚

Yes indeed. Mostly stuck to the HRE, ERE or the Baltics. Actually, one of my play throughs where I accidentally'd into Immortality (forgot to turn the wacky stuff off) is the basis for one of the AU's in the Graphic Novel I've been working on. Nowhere near ready to be shown off, but you can see the main characters in my OCs. Love Paradox games, though. Been playin some HoI4 since they introduced the tank designer.

They're also ones I could never get to work as supports without it being a kill lane (which is not what I wanted). Darius especially, though, I loathe. Just so many people were playing him for a while I got sick of being in top because I hated his stupid voice... Rant over πŸ˜… And TFT is playable at 300, but def not ranked. And yeah, Yordles are pretty stronk. Once you have 3, you get a free rando unit at the start of your turn, which saves so much money.

Nunu steppin up to represent the Freljord woulda been awesome. Playin into his growing hero narrative quite nicely. Maybe they can resurrect the concept for a Void Invasion. Maybe we could get "True" forms for the Voidborn. Idk what that'd look like, but it could be neat.

Uggggh, so lame. If they were wanting shock factor, I feel like Xayah/Rakan or Wukong would've been more impactful. As much fun as Draven is to play, I really wish they had done it from Viego's perspective on who he would recruit, ie the powerful (either in the primary sense or by their position) to make his Ruination go smoothly. The picks (discounting irl popularity) just largely don't make sense and might've been better served by having the narrative unfold over one or two years to build stakes.
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Mhm yea that would be great, and tbf if it could ever happen its probably now considering Demacia should be quite weakened due to Sylas and the entire mage rebellion thingy. Lol, i do quite hope we get that too alright, hell id even just take a teaser of who's at the head of the void but maybe this year, maybe

Oh damn, most of my playthrough's are either in British Isles or Byzantium, although the single most played campaign is probably as a particular norse count in the 769 start but ye. Oh they look pretty good and hey best of luck with the whole writing thing, i used to have plans of writing a novel thingy myself but over the years kinda realized im too much of a procrastinator to ever finish it(ofc i cant help but reveal that the frogge is the best OC, i mean that beautiful thing is simply perfection it cant be helped). Ye same paradox games are all great for me, although ironically enough ive played HOI4 less after the tank designer cause... new DLC lags my pc too much annnd having to wait like an hour to move a month in 1940 is not the most fun...

Enchanters reign supreme! Or well i do mostly play enchanters when i do get supports, or leona if its really needed cause ye. Understandable hate tho, Darius is one of the most resident sleeper people to lane into cause you just die if you fight him in certain matchups, and the voice is pretty annoying BUT, id rather listen to his "Noxus, Strenght! Noxian Might!!!" babblings over and over again, rather than listening to Riven grunt after every Q, especially nowadays when people rush A LOT of Cooldown reduction on her. Huh, i see, i guess TFT is being rather innovative with the new team buffs, i only played during the first expansion soooo, yeea, was pretty tame in comparison.

Yep yep. And yea i mean i am just happy we are gonna be getting a lot of Void stuff, because well void stuff is awesome, AND, it might mean Shurima lore finally advances (yes i am very desperate to get my shurima lore progression)

Mhm agreed, and if Xayah/Rakan were used we could've had a wholesome moment where one of them got ruined and the other prefered getting ruined too over being split apart from the other, but ye instead, karma just appears. But yea uhh id much prefer if that was how they handled it too, a really long event with a lot of stakes and far more sensible champion choices. Oh, and other HUGE thing that i dislike about the whole event thingy, nothing really changed after this world ending event, i guess technically Viego lost but he is now just back where he was for last 1000 years, Vayne is a sentinel i guess but that doooesnt really change much at all, like id imagine a planet wide ruination would affect the story/world a lot more than it has is all im trying to say
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I just really feel like we were building to a conflict there that's just never happened. A Noxus invasion of Demacia could also force an uneasy alliance between Demacia proper and the rebels, perhaps leading into some actual growth for that nation. They just used to be like the biggest factions and feel almost ignored now imo. Designing the head of the Void will be a difficult endeavor. Whatever they do, it has to be awe inspiring or at least as cool as Nagakabouros has ended up being. Maybe even a relative of her's, perhaps?

I generall do the 769 start in an eastern German province so I can do a rebellion against Frankish domination. Makes at least the first generation hard and then the butterflies have piled up and a new threat usually emerges. I'm taking my time with it. I know where everything's going, but writing script is difficult. And yeah, Frög is the mightiest OC, no question. I upgraded by PC over quarantine and it runs everything I want it to buttery smooth.

Leona's a lot of fun. My ADC buddy always wanted me to bring her over Bard (even though Bard is def superior). Oh yeah, porno grunt Riven was super annoying too, but that sounds disgusting. Yeah, I've been impressed with this versions offerings. The Mutant's bonus actually changes between matches, which can make it tough to know if you should run them, although they have Koggy, sooooooo.

I'm actually kind of surprised they haven't done a Void AU like the Battlecast line. Feels kinda strange to me. And I can relate on wanting progression to a story. (I want Koggy's dad!)

Yeah, one dump of skins just feels really rushed, even with the comic that accompanied it. Doing like a new element of the story every like 2 months would've allowed the story to evolve more organically while simultaneously allowing for the scope to be realized much easier. But yeah, there shouldn't be a return to status quo after an event like that. At the very least, Bilgewater and the Serpent Isles should be in chaos atm. I mean, c'mon, MF betrayed y'all for ghost daddy powers and... shark guns?
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Possible possible, we could even get another side in the civil war cause i really doubt Sylas would ever team up with demacia even if it meant the death of all of them, howweeever, it would be interesting if Riot used Sona or Shyvana as the 3rd side which would be the mages that actually would unite, since technically both of them are known mages who are considered as criminals right now, and they both would like to unite demacia properly while also both having connections to Jarvan, Shyvana well being his GF more or less and Sona is the daughter of Lord Barret who was more or less the advisor and best friend of Jarvan 3rd, along with them being like the 3rd most important family in demacia. Yea yea, better be as monstrous and as freakish as it gets, annnd, if not Naga's sibling, perhaps Asol's, because at least if we go by Swain's interactions with him Asol would have siblings so that would be dope af

Ahh i see i see, yeap, i love playing there too or playing as one of the saxon counts cause its kinda hard af at start but ye. Hey, best of luck man alright, im sure ya got it chief just give it time ofc! And naturally, i mean it is a glorious Frog after all! Even more glorious than Tahm himself (yes i know he is more so of a catfish but shhhhhhhh). And ye ima be waiting probably like 2-3 years before upgrading mine because for most part i only play paradox games and League and it does those pretty darn well, besides HOI4 now but i just fix that by playing on the previous patch : /

Brad always will be the most superior yes. Mhmmm, pretty annoying but im slowly turning into a jungle main this season so no more of that thankfully. Ohhhh, i had no idea about that, thats a really interesting mechanic tho, well done rito well done

Mhmm, closest we got is star guardian since, Void is technically the villain there too but cmon, saying Star Guardian is a Void AU brings tears to eyes. We can only hope riot unbenches the "not quite kench but koggy dad" this year, and hope we will!

Yeeeea... doubt Bilgewater would see that as a, "great bargain". I would say Demacia would be probably even more shitfaced, after all uhh, they were attacked and slapped around by a magical threat that not even their city made out of petricite could protect them from, thats about as close to a nightmare scenario as it gets for them.
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I guess I could see maybe Sylas allying with Swain for the short term benefits to his cause? Not as up on his lore, ngl. But, yes, a 3rd side that maneuvers Demacia into being what it's meant to be would be good. And I'm surprised Poppy has never said or done anything (although I know she's on her quest). She was there at the founding and could provide a much needed reality check. Maybe the Void Daddy could be some kind of banished celestial that got their own pocket dimension? That'd explain its influence in multiple universes.

It's a nice central position that allows a lot of choice on where to branch out at while also providing a good challenge early on. I can shoot you a draft when I get there if you want. And yeah, Frög had to give up his ability to play the banjo in exchange for limitless cosmic knowledge. And bugs. Oh that makes sense. They don't usually require too much power. I feel like the tank designer needs one additional slot for add-ons. The current allotment is just not enough to be able to replicate some real world designs. :/ Excited for Vicky 3?

My most played jungle was probably Sej. She just offered everything I wanted in a jungle. Yeah, this season of TFT has been pretty fun, although I've only played a few games. Feels overall pretty balanced with the really good synergies being hard to reach.

Yeah, both of those places would be going through a thorough shake up. The Buhru occupying Bilgewater in the chaos could be a thing. Set the stage for another champ from there. And Demacia growing out of its biggotry due to their ideology failing would be good for everyone involved.
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Very likely he would since, he has technically allied with Winter's Claw in lore already kinda. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea, Poppy is just kinda, chilling around i suppose. And yea love that idea, would be an absolute banger of a release

Ye you can send me an early draft, it might take some time until i read it since i am a rather expert procrastinator but hey feel free to send it. A harsh price for any Frog, but one he was willing to pay... Hmmm yea, maybe with time they expand on it since well, it is a pretty damn cool af feature after all. Oh you already know im waiting for that Vicky 3 like a madman, eventho Vicky 2 isnt even remotely my most played of the paradox games it is certainly the closest to heart aside from CK2, cause man that game eventho its old and shit at some areas, it has a lot of soul, and thats priceless.

Used to play Sej in jungle myself back in days but she has been kinda bad for a while now and i havent been a jungler for ages sooooo, yeea... Most played jungler is Elise tho i got like 90k points purely cause i played her every game in my jungle main phase back in season 5, hate seeing the champ on my team now since tho : /

When was Illaoi even released cause besides her, Buhru have been barely mentioned and they are rather important to bilgewater to say the least so a new champ would be most welcome, especially cause well they are extremely cool.
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Okay, good. He struck me as an opportunist radical type. Now I'm just imagining Queen Poppy ruling Demacia after she finally puts 2 and 2 together. Void Celectial would at least explain what the Voidlings are and why they're so bizarre.

It'll be a some day thing πŸ˜… Honestly, I want them to add in an aircraft designer next with just different frames to build from. And then we could get armored cars and maybe infantry kit? Idk there. I've only barely touched Vicky 2, so I'm interested to try out 3. I really like the time period, so I should enjoy it as long as it doesn't turn out like Imperator...

Ah, oh well. I can always still take her supp if I ever get to play outside of TFT again...

2015 was Illaoi's release. You see a fair amount of them in Ruined King, so I can't fathom why there hasn't been a second one yet.
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Ye, or well whats left of it after all the things going lately in it, Sylas, Viego and seemingly most of the demacia mess with demacia too soooo yeeea... Mhm mhm, i hope they never fully fully explain it tho, the mystery is a part of its charm at least for me.

In due time in due time then. I can already imagine my PC melting from just one of those, but tbf id love to get all of those added, the more the better, because honestly HOI4 has only had great DLCs/patches for more or less all of its existance, pretty easy to trust in paradox to blow it out of the sky next time too. Lets... not talk about imperator... I was so fucking hyped for it, and i actually really really enjoyed it after it got some updates, cause i mean fuck, a paradox style game set in the time of ancient rome??? Perfection, but then after around 2 completed campaigns one realizes there is really not that much to do in the game, an uncooked meal one could say

Seems to me you are willing to take anything support : / (which i really dont mind but i cant say id be happy to see my supp pull out a first time random champion in ranked, thats horror fuel)

Damn, its been that long huh. Hmmm, maybe cause they didnt know what quite to do with them up until the ruined game? Maybe also they didnt want to add one since another Buhru could technically spoil the contents of the ruined king game/event in a way but truthfully those are mediocre excuses at best
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Yeah, the Void getting a leader would give the beginning of an explanation without actually giving details. A place to go off of for theories, but nothing past that.

I just hope Italy gets an update soon and maybe some minor updates to the other Major trees to fit in with the newer DLC. Yeah, Imp just felt... unfinished? Half cooked perhaps? There were a lot of good ideas with none really capitalized on. And the way the tribes were handled was infuriating with the leader randomized every time and not really being able to see who they were when you started, which meant you had to restart if they weren't what you want. And the timeframe seemed... constrained. Hard.

They need to either have some hard lockdown or slows or the like before I'll consider them and then I have to test em out a few times to make sure it works and then I need them to work with the team comp. I do put thought into it, as I want everyone to have a good game at least... Or at least I'm not causing misery.

Yeah, those are pretty weak reasons. They actually introduce a couple of potential archetypes they could work around for a champ, like the Serpent Callers. They call in the giant snake dragons for defense during a Harrowing or use their talents to steer the beasties away from harbors.
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Uhh ive seen a few episodes but besides that only some spoilers and random short youtube videos, sooo, really really not that well
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I think when we get to that point, we should consider what versions of characters should get seperate profiles. Like the Dark Stars/Battlecasts deserve their own versions of the characters imo. Using Cho'Gath as an example, his Battlecast version's sonic scream is equivalent in power to the world's nuclear arsenal and Dark Star has two black holes for a stomach. Just an idea. And I would only consider this for the lines of skins that are clear seperate continuities.
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Oh, yes absolutely, id like to add the alternate canon versions myself, and only those with clear separate continuities ofc. Dark Star and Battlecast Cho being prime examples ofc. The only skinline that i might plan on adding thats canon is the Sentinel/Ruined one as most of the character with those are vastly stronger than normally.
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Oh also sorry but would you like to split apart the workload of adding the normal versions of the characters? We are already both adding them so doing that could make it easier for both of us? Ofc only if you want that ofc.
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Oh of course, absolutely. I have a list of champions I'm comfortable doing because of either me or my buddies playing them a lot and me getting invested in them. It's at my home computer, so I'll shoot you that list when I get beck there.

I 100% agree on the Ruined King storyline ones. And aren't there AU Bilgewater skins that are supposed to be future/possible versions of the characters?

PROJECT has to be one of the lines, I would assume. Maybe Arcade as well? Not sure if that one has enough lore though.
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I do also do work on the Magic the Gathering characters and a couple of other universes, so I'll try to work some League characters in in my request batches.
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Oh, okay okay well im more than happy to let you have those and i can have the rest or however way we organize it but yes im more than happy alright.

Yeap yeap, i am really looking forward to adding them but probably much later. Hmmm, there are technically some canon Bilgewater skins like Captain Miss Fortune and Captain Gankplank is also the version of Gangplank before MF blew him and his ship up, but they dont really have different feats from their current versions so no reaaal point.

Yea project for sure. About Arcade im not too knowledagble on it but at least Final Boss Veigar has enough lore/feats, as he can control all the information in the universe and see it as pixels so thats pretty neat, dont know about others would need to check. Dawnbringer and Nightbringer ones have good lore too, also would you like to split apart the skinlines too cause some skinlines i kinda really dont like the lore, ironically enough dark star and cosmic dawn ones are really boring so id be happy if someone else took the heavy load : D

And yeap ive seen you did more or less all of Magic the Gathering, great job on the profiles and yea ofc thanks for the help, ive got 7 characters iirc waiting rn so it will come along quite nicely
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So, here's my list... It was a bit longer than expected. And if there's any you want, I am happy to give em up. I'll put a * next to the ones I view as faves:
Ashe*, Cassiopeia, Galio*, Hecarim, Janna, Kha'Zix, Leona, Malphite, Malzahar, Nami, Nautilus*, Nidalee, Poppy, Sejuani*, Shyvanna, Sion, Skarner, Soraka, Tahm Kench, Taric*, Thresh, Urgod*, Varus, Veigar, Vel'Koz, Warwick, Yorick*, Zac, Ziggs, Zyra

I don't think any of those conflict with ones you've requested right now.
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Oh feel free to mention even more if you want really its fine, the only one of those id really like is Soraka if thats okay (my 2nd pick support alongside Sona after all) Besides her feel absolutely free to request all others uve mentioned.

Yeap they dont, any of the 7 i requested are your favourites? If you want il remove the request its really not a problem.

Like freljord do you?(And ofc Urgod is everyones favourite)
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No, go ahead. Soraka's all your's. Nope, you're all good. I'd made this list a week or so ago.

I just like champs with stuns and proactive play styles when I'm supporting/support jungling, which a lot of Freljord champs fall into. And like, Sej is my secondary waifu character πŸ˜… Please don't judge me.
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Ah okay thanks thanks. Mhm well okay i see, aight then u can handle those and i will focus on the rest fair?

I see i see, i do enjoy them playmaking tanks myself tbf although at heart im a control mage player. And no no judgments whatsoever Sejuani is pretty great (we all want a strong "viking" waifu sometimes after all) just curiosity for who is first πŸ€”
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That sounds reasonable to me. That's 30 champs for me to do plus the few I have on the request list. I think I'm gonna push Poppy up my personal list because I think I can make the case she's worthy to wield Mjölnir.

Oh, yeah, no, I just kinda got forced into the play style of the tank and ended up loving it. I even played Tankmo support in ranked back in the day. So trolly. And control mage is fun. Just anything that stuns or inconveniences the enemy is fun.

I'm looking through the AUs and I think we can agree that Battlecast, Dawn-Nightbringer, Event Horizon, and [url=https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/PROJECT_(Universe)]PROJECT should probably be the priorities when we get to them. I think there are a fair few other that have enough lore to do, but they're probably less "important."
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Ye sure Poppy is cool too, and tbh never really thought about her wielding mjolnir but yea upon thinking about it she probably could

Oh i see, kinda happened to me and how im a top tank main rn eventhon at heart a control mage player, just kinda really hated meta in mid so swapped but im coming back mid this year. Still tanks are probably 2nd favourite class(Never tankmo, never tankmo tho...)

Yea i do agree, any of those ud really like to do? Personally id really love if i could do the ruined king saga but ye. Still thats only.after we finish the main bulk, or at least thats what i have on mind.
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She'd be too humble to keep it, though.

I've always been drawn to quirkiness, so that's why I went with Bard as my main for a whole season. No regrets. I like doing mid in regular matches, but every time I'm mid in Ranked, i always get the worst jungles. And Tankmo support is great! Have to be super confident with my partner, but no one ever suspects it.

That sounds fine to me. I'm good with doing Event Horizon as well, especially if you find the lore dull.
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Yea, probably would keep it until she finds someone else worthy of wielding it but then shed give it away
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Ah i see, well as far as quirkibess goes Bard is probably number 1 so that do make sense
And yeee them junglers, but oh well ive learned to ignore any such problems and just focus on what i can do. And ye with a duoq friend tankmo support does sound tempting.

Oh, thanks a lot! And yea i generally really find the event horizon lore very boring so id be more than happy if you did it.
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I think what we have her is a plan. I'll keep you updated if I run across anything else. We should feel free to reach out if we're flummoxed about appropriate tier/score on a champ as well.
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Okay okay and same ofc, more than agree about keeping it as organized as possible especially since accidentally enough a lot of characters you mentioned i dont rememeber that well so you came in like a saviour but ye. Ofc thanks a lot for reaching out first, i planned to do it myself but im really bad when it comes to procrastinating.
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Oh forgot to mention btw but since we are on the topic, any stats you really disagree with that are added right now? Perhaps i just didnt think about it enough so might as well ask after all. Oh just incase you think idk Jinx is too high (i think so too), i didnt reeeeally create that profile so, yea, iirc it was Monster cause i assume he really liked Arcane.
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I would prefer to work together rather than squabble, ngl.

Yeah, Jinx should probably be closer to Ezreal, but she's not too far off. I think I did Ustats for Alistar and Annie b/c they're a little low. I'm not familiar enough with the others that are stated to say one way or the other.
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Ye same ofc ofc.

Id probably put Jinx a bit below MF tbf but yea she isnt really that high. And yea your ustats for them seem fine, or well alistar one is good while id say annie is a bit too high, i think il edit alistar more or less exactly to the same thing if thats cool?

About Annie, i dont rate her as highly mostly because in lore, she cant really control her magic, it more so just happens whenever she is angry so my power ranking is a lot lower than yours and whatnot if that makes sense? Still 14 is a bit too low tbf soo yea.. How about i change her to more or less what you did but i put the power at more so like 25 or 30?
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That sounds perfectly reasonable to me on both accounts.
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Aight perfect, then i will change them around tommorow as i dont really have much time today, fair?

As far as those you've done id say they are perfect so great job! (tankmo is obviously omnipotent but the downplay shall be ignored this one time)
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That'll need an alternate profile πŸ˜‚
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