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Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe)vsGilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)

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Oblivion
Oblivion 1 mo 5 d
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) vs Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)
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Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse) Goetia or Tiamat can solo fodder hearts let alone CCC Gil
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xrpl320
xrpl320 1 mo 5 d
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) vs Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) Cosmology of Pandora Hearts is way above Fate/stay night.

Proof:


Intention of the Abyss stomps Gilgamesh & Co. without trying.
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Oblivion
Oblivion 1 mo 5 d
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) vs Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)
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Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse) Who cares about stay night? I said fate extra Gilgamesh not stay night. Those you posted doesn't even makes ground for low 1c, any relevant mooncell entity, lostbelt king or beast can blink the verse
xrpl320
xrpl320 1 mo 5 d
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) vs Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) First off, you have not yet shown anywhere that "any" Gilgamesh can create, destroy or significantly affect (*) an infinite number of (at least-) 4- dimensional stories / universes.
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You also ignored that the infinite number of stories exist BEYOND perception.
Considering that "any" kind of perception certainly requires a pre-existent (a priori) concept for both space and for time, we can therefore rightfully conclude that the Pandora Hearts cosmology and its personified embodiment are above both concepts, hence Outerversal or even more.

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Oblivion
Oblivion 1 mo 5 d
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) vs Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)
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Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse) Infinite stories doesn't mean anything , 4 dimensional stories doesn't means anything to fodder ccc tiers

BB :: However…The Moon Cell is, you might say impudent, or that its defenses are flawless. Even though I managed to pass through the imaginary number space at the speed of light, a huge wall now stands before our devilish heroine BB-chan! It’s a perfectly spherical spirit particle defense wall that cuts through eight dimensions. It looks like it’ll be very hard to break down this wall. But this is the last move. After I break this wall into little pieces I’ll have reached my goal. So I’ve left all of you in Meltlilith’s care. The girl can’t really take a joke, but her work is perfect. So take care, senpai. Please entertain me with your useless flailing on this layer too ♥

There are at least 8 dimensions within the mooncell


Each mooncell dimension views lower one as written in book

BB is the mooncell

Gilgamesh after gaining his original power fought and oneshotted Mooncell BB with Enuma Elish

And BB is capable of rewriting concepts and reality

"Cursed Cutting Crater (C. C. C.)
An attack on the world by BB in control of the Moon Cell.
Also called the spirit particle imaginary pit.
A world purge by means of event rewriting, making maximum use of the EX skill “Potnia Theron” BB had acquired.
The goddess who is the mother of the earth goddesses who created the earth is, in other words, the “root” that created all creation.
This Noble Phantasm is an anti-world Noble Phantasm that outputs information like an ultra-precise 3d printer and crushes the present world with the world desired by the user.
The space eroded by BB becomes imaginary space and a curse that consumes reality. CCC as the name suggests is a cursed pit that bores out reality.
In addition to scattering all objects inside on an atomic level and reconstructing them, it is capable of writing over and rewriting information of fields such as luck and coincidence.
While theoretical, it is also thought possible to distort the time axis by interfering with gravity fields and rewrite the law of cause and effect.
When used in combat, BB’s familiars, the shapeshifters engulf the target, and after turning into a sphere, is wiped out of existence along with the target and the dimension with it.
Normally, a structure in which value can be shared cannot be constructed in the far side of the world, which is imaginary space. What established BB’s internal world as the Sakura labyrinth was the power of this Noble Phantasm." -Fate/EXTRA CCC - BB (Moon Cancer) Matrix

I will post a rt soon but im sure your ignorant ass who thinks nasuverse is just fsn won't stop downplaying.
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xrpl320
xrpl320 1 mo 5 d
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) vs Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) Well, a good respectthread at least for Oz, the B-Rabbit, exists at comicvine , and it outlines the vastness of what is Pandora Hearts good enough: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-oz-the-bloodstained-black-rabbit-1844858/
Already Oz, the B-Rabbit, who can end all of existence by severing the chains of the macrocosm (= he's also at least 2-A) is easily "much" too strong and could defeat Gilgamesh .
correction: the essence of Oz is also abstract / metaphysical, and therefore at least Low 1-C / Extradimensional
Gilgamesh has a well-defined, obviously limited (physical, 3-dimensional) shape, and only one and only one point in time and space where he can exist and where he can operate. He's only a friggin 3-dimensional fighter (although a somewhat powerful one).
Gilgamesh is not an abstract , metaphysical concept nor does he transcend even only space or time, and much less so the very concepts of space and time (Core of the Abyss does this).
Why is it so difficult to distinguish abstract, metaphysical, non-corporeal and transcendent beings like e.g. the Core of the Abyss from only a 3-Dimensional fighter like Gilgamesh.
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Oblivion
Oblivion 1 mo 5 d
Intention Of The Abyss (Pandora Hearts Universe) vs Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse)
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Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse) >Gilgamesh has a well-defined, obviously limited (physical, 3-dimensional) shape, and only one and only point in time and space where he can operate.
Except servants aren't physical beings, they can exist in a spiritual state

Spiritual Body and Material Body
“Spiritual Body” is a word that describes an existence with spiritual properties. In other words, a shape is constructed without relying on components with physical properties. On the other hand, “Material Body” means something that is identical in structure as our flesh bodies. A Material Body, just like us, cannot walk through walls, and will hurt and become wounded when beaten with an iron baton. However, a Spirit Body is capable of completely disregarding such physical interference. Attacking a Spiritual Body with a baton or sword (unless they are magical items) will only hit empty space.
When Servants materialise, they acquire Material Bodies in this world. They can also switch to Spiritual Bodies through their will. Spiritual Bodies have the advantages such as low mana consumption, and difficult to be detected by enemies. One of the properties of a Spiritual Body is that it is unaffected by physical interference, but conversely it is difficult for a Spiritual Body to affect a Material Body. As a result, Servants Materialise when engaging in combat.- Fate/complete material III: World material - Records of Heavens Feel - Servant System: Spiritual Body and Material Body, p.018



>Gilgamesh is not an abstract , metaphysical concept nor does he transcend even only space or time, and much less so the very concepts of space and time.

Thats fraud, Base Gil can casually traverse far side where concepts of time and distance do not exist Gil can keep up with bb who absorbed mooncell concept of time doesn't exists in mooncell and those who became mooncell exist in all timelines, nasuverse has shown to have multiple stack of infinite universes and higher r>f dimensions Mooncell is omnilock by its nature and views every layer below it as fiction (i posted above) so yes mooncell transcends time and space, Gilgamesh oblitared it
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Gilgamesh (Fate/Stay Night) (Nasuverse) wins!
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