Hey Galactus, if you see this, Hulk should be at least a 17, Deadpool is a 17, and Hulk has a healing factor almost at the level of Deapool, as well as the strength and durability on the level(repeat, on the LEVEL, not trying to start an argument on who would win, that has been done tooooo many times) of Superman, and at top speed, can run at 700 MPH, proven, not just something I made up. Also, Thor Is a 22, and Hulk consistently kicks the crap out of him. I know, there is the rock paper scissors effect, where Thor can beat some that Hulk usually isn't able to defeat, although Hulk is able to defeat Thor, but alas, he is still very powerful. Really think about this, because its been awhile since Hulk has been upped, and he needs it, because there is no way Deadpool should be higher than him.
A Hulk vs. Doomsday book new edition would be so awesome - someone who cannot be killed the same way twice fighting someone who has incalculable strength.
The Sentry has also shown enough physical strength to be able beat the Void into submission more than once with pure force when he was relatively stable, which shows a high degree of power.
Sentry has Incalculable or limitless strength. * Superhuman Strength: The Sentry's strength varies greatly and depends on his mental stability. The Sentry possesses vast superhuman strength, granting him the ability to lift (press) far in excess of 100 tons easily. He is one of the strongest beings in the Universe. The Void was even able to break the Hulk's limbs with relative ease, and the Sentry himself was able to easily kill Ares by ripping him in half. He can also absorb solar radiation for additional strength. The Sentry has yet to demonstrate an upper-limit to his strength, but he has shown that it can rival the likes of the Hulk, although this depends on his mental state.
The sentry has limitless strength too but he only stalemated the hulk because of his mental problem at that time so his strength and other powers were lower,but he true strength equals or maybe stronger then hulk's.Class 100+; the Sentry possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift well over 100 tons easily. He has been able to stalemate one of the most powerful incarnations of the Hulk while weakened by his Agoraphobia, destroy the Shields of Dr Doom and even contain a Cosmic Cube for a while before it was absorbed into the Sentry's body. Marvel dubbed The Sentry as the world's most powerful superhero at some point in time.
Thor's strength is Incalculable or limitless too,but just not as strong as some hulks,but he does start off stronger then savage hulk but savage hulk could match his strength.Absolute Strength - Superpower Wiki-http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Absolute_Strength
@sapuramura I'm not saying raise them 10 or 20 points ahead, no I think 2, 3, or 4 numbers raised. I agree for most part as stats go yes, they are 90% right. Ok, they're not dc fanboys, then they need to fix it.
And he's still slow. He got what he deserved, 47 is enough for someone so slow compared to other characters. Same goes hor his power(ability) stat, he has very limited amount of abilities most of which are very limited/passive, so 41 is enough. Hulks strength is 100 in powergrid, and characetrs can get 100 if their strength is Incalculable, so those 100 speak for themselves. Look at Doomsday's stats and class, 13 and Hulk has 14 class and higher stats, people here are rating characters logically with 90% accuracy. Thors and Hulks stats are fine, some characetrs are underrated I agree, like Sentry who is very powerfull but here he is a worm compared to what I saw in comic books, but not every character that you think is underrated is surely underrated. You could make a topic on forum, make a list of all underrated characters and discuss with oher users without calling everyone DC fanboys. Admins nick name is Galactus(because its his favorite char), so not so much a DC fanboy.
@sapuramura, that's pretty fast for a big guy. Especially for someone who isn't known for their speed. No thunderclap isn't a power more of a move, I know but I still consider it a destructive power with what it can do. It's nearly killed wolverine with it. And that's thanos who is one of the most powerful beings in marvel universe. And all those names you said from marvel, yeah sure I know they are powerful but I'm not talking about them. They are powerful, I'm talking about those who are underrated. And marvel earth heroes, some are underrated bad
@Goldenguardianofgood 1. Thanos once took control over hulk. 2. Thunderclap is just a result of high physical strength, is that some super power? No! 3. 200 miles per hour, Is that much? 200 miles per hour=320 km per hour=89-90 meters per second, thats what cars are able to reach. 4. Superman(19), Martian Manhunter(20) and Darkseid(20) are some of top tiers in DC. Silver Surfer(22), Dormammu(22), Abraxas(24), Apocalypse(24), Thanos(25), Galactus(29) are all marvel! Yeah, marvel characters are sooooo underrated on this site. LOL
@sapuramura, let's see, he doesn't have heat vision or such things like that but, same move doesn't work against him twice, mind control doesn't work, thunderclap devastates anything around him. No he may not have the speed of flash or superman, but he can reach speeds up to 200 mphs, and can travel miles in small leaps. And when multiple marvel characters on here are highly underrated and dc characters are way high up on scale, I pretty much think they are dc fanboys and I love reading dc too
@Goldenguardianofgood Power is special abilities. What special abilities does hulk has? The angrier the stronger and healing factor are his only actual abilities, do you think that two abilities are enough to give him more in power stat of power grid? Look at superman, he has super visions, super hearing, super breath, light speed movement, he can fly, can absorb solar energy and healing factor. And his power stat is 94 and Hulks is 41. Hulks strength is maxed, soooooo... as you can see he's strong. Now to speed, answear me how fast is hulk compared to characters like quicksilver, flash and superman? I guess it's slung(Hulk) vs world fastest sports car(quicksilver, flash and superman). So think before you speak and start calling everyone DC fanboys.
Dc fanboy site, hulk should be at least 17, power should be up, speed should be up. This is the 3rd one I've seen from marvel that is highly underrated on this site
I think people who think that hulk should have 100 in intelligence are dumb, Bruce Banner is smart - Hulk isn't. Even when Bruce controls Hulk, he sill can't use his mind, just talk better than before and not smash everything and everyone(basically not so angry). So his intelligence should be decreased, lets face it hulk is DUMB and is not using Bruce Banners mind, just some important to Bruce memories.
Also I am unsure whether it was a good thing to change the way how the hulk was created or not (in the Incredible Hulk move), because now they've said it was a lab experiment like captain America, it now shows a good bond between two of the avengers? But do people prefer the original way he was formed, the gamma bomb which he was in?
Please change his intelligence bar to full 100%. Bruce Banner is a genius. If you read the Hulk comic books it clearly shows it in the stories. Banner's got a lot of powerful inventions that aid him in battle when he's not in Hulk-form.
@Tim_Tibbles Hulk isn't as fast as Superman. Superman flew from the Earth to the sun in 2 minutes WHILE fighting Wonder Woman. He could probably do it in a minute or less without fighting anyone.
But again. Hulk at his PRIME! That's his top speed (as fast as superman), just top strength (limitless; stronger than superman) and his healing abilities (Better than superman's) so really the only category superman would beat him in would be intillect!
I think world war hulk can beat superman or have a tie with him because world war hulk is somewhat unstoppable and much stronger then the other hulks like professor hulk, savage hulk, grey hulk, and separated hulk. as a hulk fan i can see why some people think superman could beat the savage hulk which is the modern hulk because superman may be stronger even that the hulk gets stronger by his anger, and much faster then him but i know superman would have troubles with the world war hulk.
And nitroshifter, just because gamma radiation exists in the real world (where the marvel universe exists) doesn't mean it exists in the DCU. It does not exist in the DCU.
If he was inside the earth, he can't bench press the entire thing without also moving himself. He would've had to use his power of flying along with his strength.
It is on dc.wikia.com Most recently he has been shown to be able to bench press the weight of the Earth (approximately 6 sextillion tons) for 5 days, while inside the Earth itself (and thus deprived of replenishing his reserves of solar energy).
Very good! You've just taken almost everything I've been saying and put it into one comment! And after some more research, I've discovered that superman can only heal without his birthing matrix when he is at his prime. So to be a fair fight, hulk prime would KISS superman and squash him LIKE A BUG. So that being said, hulk prime's base strength is 2 million tons. After he gets angry though? He has no limit. Where superman maxes out at 200 quintillion tons. And since hulk is faster than quicksilver, ill give it to him thy he's almost as fast as superman, if not as fast. Next on the list is the healing factor. Hulk prime vs superman prime. Superman can't be melted into a puddle and reform back to full functionality. So hulk wins there too. Next is intelligence. Bruce banner and hulk eventually merge. And since Bruce's intelligence parallels tony stark, I'd say they're about equal. All in all, hulk beats or ties superman in EVERY category. Hulk wins hands down.
ok. first of all, superman as healing factor, but not on hulks level. go read planet hulk from issue 1 to the end. hulk can lift 100tons at is base, but when he is angry, is strength increases beyond measure, is speed increases too, but there is limit to is speed. he easily tagged quick silver. so in my opiniion hulk will kick supes ass hands down. forget about superman speed after all hulk as fought speedstars like gladiator, sentry, nova, thor and silver surfer, he defeated them all. hulk is very very durable. he can tag superman speed too.
Next, there is NO SUCH THING as gamma radiation in the DC universe, making it a new concept to superman "fire to a caveman" if you will. So there is no possible way for superman to make a cure for him. Your logic makes 0 sense. ZERO. Just like your level of maturity.
Seriously, don't call me Timmy. That's seriously one of the only names I hate being called. And again, superman doesn't have a healing factor OR regeneration. I took your advice and spent the last few days studying up. NOWHERE in ANY superman comics does it show ANY TRACE of him having super healing factors. And yes he does have strength limits. It's 200 quintillion tons. Hulk has DESTROYED planets with ONE PUNCH, not flying, while using heat vision to melt the earth in front of him to the center and breaking it from the inside with several dozen strikes. So again, tell me when superman can beat hulks strength, and healing abilities. Without hulks healing abilities, I doubt superman can heal from a melted puddle and regenerate to full functionality.
So as you see Timmy super man is fast and can heal and can even use his heat vision to reprogram machines (IE.) Iron man suit turning it into a snow cone machine lmao! If you wanna hang with the big boys Timmy learn something fisrt son.
Genius-Level Intellect: Superman has shown incredible intelligence and computational abilities; his mind works sharply and with extreme speed relative to earth-humans. His analytical powers are impressive — he is able to use his senses to read information directly from machines (and, with careful usage of his heat vision, he can even reprogram machines). Recently after he regained his powers in the "One Year Later" arc, his brain's intelligence has increased and it operates with much greater speed, procession, and analytical prowess, to the point he can recall things in such detail that he knows the ballistics of every shot by Bloodshot and the vector and mass of each and every one of Riot's bodies[362]. He can see into one of the most advanced Kryptonian Sun Stone Battle Ships and watch energy patterns shift and change, trace command signals at light speed down branching, maze-like pathways whilst, at the same time, finding one small knot of circuitry[363]
Healing Factor: In the extreme event that Superman is harmed, either by an alien matching his own strength or other occurrence, he has been shown to have the ability to heal almost instantaneously from any wound, assuming that the process is not impeded from some outside factor i.e. Kryptonite. This "healing factor" is supplemented by his stores of solar energy.
and having the strength necessary to shatter entire worlds[343]. Superman has been chained to the endless wheels of the Mageddon machinery and his strength was used to move the gears of a weapon whose size dwarfed the entire Earth/Moon system itself.[344]. Most recently he has been shown to be able to bench press the weight of the Earth (approximately 6 sextillion tons) for 5 days, while inside (and thus deprived of replenishing his reserves of solar energy).[345] He can become "supercharged" and exceed his "normal" power levels as evident when his power absorption ability ran amok which needed the Parasite to drain off his excessive power levels.
being seen lifting an enormous pyramid and flying it to Mars without any strain (which can weigh millions and millions of tons depending on their size)[340], being strong enough to be capable of ripping off the arm of the likes of Darkseid and physically defeating him in combat[341], being able to move the planet Earth away from the Sun while a powerful Cosmic Entity, Starbreaker was pushing it toward the Sun
Superhuman Strength: The exact magnitude of Superman's strength is unknown. This is because Superman's strength, like his many other powers, has fluctuated over time, however, his strength should effortlessly range into the multi-megaton level at the very least. While the exact magnitude of Superman's strength is unknown, it is generally accepted that his strength easily surpasses the capacity to lift 1,000,000 tons, but how much more is not known exactly. This makes Superman the strongest being on the planet and one of the strongest beings in the universe. Superman has shown feats of strength such as
Solar Battery: Technically, this is the main source of Superman's powers. As a Kryptonian, Superman's cells absorb only yellow solar energy, and this in turn, fuels all of his powers and abilities. Superman's cells also store solar energy as well, allowing him to retain his powers under roofed structures or even at night, although he eventually needs a yellow sun to recharge his powers. Superman can also absorb solar energies of other class stars such as when he absorbed the solar energies of a blue star that increased his abilities to a higher degree and gave him additional abilities.
Kryptonian Physiology: Superman's cellular structure is more dense, resilient and biologically more effective than human tissue. Strangely enough, he does not seem to possess superhuman strength levels despite his enhanced cellular ability without his cellular structure charged with yellow solar energy. Without such charging, his strength seems on par for a human of his height and weight who engages in regular physical activity. As an alien he possesses several organs whose functions are not yet disclosed or understood but are believed to be part of and perhaps even the source of his biomatrix force field and reclamation aura. Superman's body also stores energy actively within his bio-cellular matrix as an energy pattern that is linked to his body's electromagnetic field. This energy powers most of Superman's electromagnetic capabilities such as flight and heat vision. It also supplements his physical strength by a factor of 12,000 times or so.
Let me prove my point to you Timmy but while I explain I'm gonna hold your hand and talk slow very slow to you like a small child with ADHD.Are you ready Timmy? ok here we go.1st superman can move at light speed giving hulk no reaction time the POW! superman smashes his head like a watermelon,2nd superman uses his heat vision and x-ray vision looking through hulks eye and slicing his brain in to like he did in action comics 775 instant lobotomy,3rd supermans heat vision is hotter than the sun he could just melt the hulk,4th he could freeze the hulk with his super breathe then shatter him into millions of pieces,5th throw him into the sun,6th superman uses his genius intellect and creates a cure for the hulk moving at lightspeed he inject the hulk and curing him superman then flicks Banner in the head with his pinky knocking his head clean off,7th need I continue Timmy? LMAO!
Timmy dear Timmy where do you get your info that superman cant heal? go read some superman comics.Supermans healing factor is much greater than hulks timmy.and you may know more about Ironman than anyone you know son but you don't know me timmy and I know Iron man is not stronger than superman even with his hulkbusting armor or even with his future suits he is still out classed by superman likei said you youngsters better read some comics and stop making heroes more than what they are.
tim, first of all Superman can heal. Secondly there is no known limit to supermans strength. He once picked up an island and threw it into space. He has even moved a planet. So when hulk does that let me know.
Please do not call me Timmy. And yet again, you've proved nothing except that your a childish old man who probably needs to go live in a nursing home. Your so incompetent and stupid. Superman can't heal, he has limits to his strength, he has a source to his strength; while hulk can instantaneously heal, regenerate, has no strength limits, and has no outside source. So you can come back when you've grown more brain cells.
You've not proven any point yet. If you can come up with a way for superman to beat hulk in the next "20 years" then tell me. Until then, I will pray that your incompetence doesn't get you killed.
Furthermore, hulk has only ever been beaten by Thanos. He is strong enough to litterally THROW gakactus. And he is stronger than Thor and silver surfer.
Jimmy, you obviously need to go study up on your heroes. Superman has a Max strength of 200quintillion tons! Hulk has NO limit AT ALL. Plust, the only way to defeat the hulk would be tl let him die or keep him melted because he can litterally be liquified and still heal. Hulk is stronger than superman HANDS DOWN. But superman is way faster. But like I said earlier. He eventually merges with Bruce banner and gets all of his intelligence, making him on a "Tony Stark" genius level (smarter than superman). So again. Since hulk is stronger, never gets tired AND can heal INSTANTANEOUSLY, I see no possible way for hulk to beat superman.
Iv been visiting this site for quit sometime and never felt the need to join or comment but this hulk vs superman crap needs to end there is no way hulk could beat superman sure the madder the hulk gets the stronger he becomes but superman is on a whole other level can the hulk move at light speeds? Um no.superman's strength is immeasurable there is no limit to it all superman would have to do is fly at light speed and smash the hulks skull like a watermelon or fly at lightspeed and throw him into the sun end of story hulk is strong but only on an earthly level he cant hang with thor or the silver surfer.
While I agree that superman has an unlimited source of strength, he does eventually max out. So hulk does beat him in that regard. However, in later hulk comic books, hulk gets the intellect of Bruce banner. While I also agree with superman having genius level intellect, he doesn't have any kryptonian tech at his disposal other than what is in his fortress of solitude (not much) and since hulk has higher durability and a healing factor, superman would eventually get run down. Hulk would get SO angry that he would literally BREAK superman.
And the wolverine vs hulk movie is TOTAL BS. It's probably one of the most inaccurate movies I've ever seen. As I recall from the old COMICS, hulk ripped wolverine in half.
No, superman is NOT the strongest hero. In case you forget, hulk is described as "invulnerable" "incredible" and "the strongest hero ever". So your argument of superman being stronger is invalid. Plus, the angrier hulk gets, the stronger he gets. So all he has to do is wait for superman to tire himself out.
Hulk vs superman isn't really a fair fight. Out of all the research I've done, if based on comics a more accurate fight would be THOR vs superman. They both have practically the same strength, speed and over all powers. Ill agree that superman had many more powers, but Thor also has an indestructible hammer that can break anything. He's broken captain America's shield, wolverines claws and Loki's staff. He could crush superman's bones.
Hulk has pummeled Thor so many times. Unlike the Hulk, Thor can't get any stronger than he already is. Hulk can get stronger the angrier he gets and he keeps that strength forever. He keeps getting stronger in ever battle basically.
Hulk has pummeled Thor so many times. Unlike the Hulk, Thor can't get any stronger than he already is. Hulk can get stronger the angrier he gets and he keeps that strength forever. He keeps getting stronger in ever battle basically.
his stats is so wrong so so wrong his speed is higher then that his inteligencemis should be all the way up im really dissapointed in the stats they gave him
if you guys actually read the comics than you will know hulk is unbeatable.
Movies and this site, has inaccurate strength levels for Hulk. They portray superman more accurately according to the comics than hulk to his comics.
Hulk in his comics has repaired destroyed planets, lifted 150 billion ton mountain ranges, almost destroyed the eastern seaboard with his feet, destroyed asteroids more than 3 times the size of earth, survived super nova’s, regenerates in the fraction of a second, moreover he’s not harmed by anti-matter.
Hulk has a base strength, and if nothing can rival his base strength then he doesn’t get stronger, simple. However, if Hulk feels that his strength is being rivaled then he gets stronger to overpower that rival.
The Hulk, one reason is his power level is higher than what is listed on this site. Hulk nearly killed superman in the DC/Marvel wars (even though superman got the upper hand later) but since the DC/Marvel wars, Hulk has become much more powerful and his combat is top notch, even his speed has got faster. He has no remorse towards those who enjoy causing pain or kill for fun. I think it would be a good battle but Hulk would rip doomsday apart at the end.
The Hulk, one reason is his power level is higher than what is listed on this site. Hulk nearly killed superman in the DC/Marvel wars (even though superman got the upper hand later) but since the DC/Marvel wars, Hulk has become much more powerful and his combat is top notch, even his speed has got faster. He has no remorse towards those who enjoy causing pain or kill for fun. I think it would be a good battle but Hulk would rip doomsday apart at the end.
ok i was wrong silver surfer only has 1 more power than thor but thor also has better combat and better strength as where silver surfer has faster speed which wont matter if thor could hit him cuz silver surfer can jus run like hell and come back with a fast 1
id say silver sufer he is the best match against glatius and thor was strungling so hard when he was fighting himand if u look at there powers silver surfer has like tons compared to thor
The World War Hulk comic book series shows the Hulk at one of his strongest physical and mental states ever. He wasn\'t the usual mindless Hulk in that story. It\'s obvious that he is capable of being one of the most powerful beings in the universe given the right set of circumstances.
Hulk wins hands down, Hulk has been through so much more then any of the others. During WW Hulk, Hulk has gotten unimaginable strength even his power rating has gone up (which is not been updated on here), his power has become so powerful he was able to fight Sentry to draw at the end of WW hulk.
Hulk wins hands down, Hulk has been through so much more then any of the others. During WW Hulk, Hulk has gotten unimaginable strength even his power rating has gone up (which is not been updated on here), his power has become so powerful he was able to fight Sentry to draw at the end of WW hulk.
In World War Hulk, Sentry and Hulk fought so hard to the point that they both turned back to their human form so they would destroy earth. I personally believe Hulk would win if he gets so mad that he becomes the Savage Hulk, because the angrier he gets he becomes more powerful. Hulk held back when he fought Sentry because he thought of Sentry as a friend, so he didn\'t allow himself to get too angry.
In World War Hulk, Sentry and Hulk fought so hard to the point that they both turned back to their human form so they would destroy earth. I personally believe Hulk would win if he gets so mad that he becomes the Savage Hulk, because the angrier he gets he becomes more powerful. Hulk held back when he fought Sentry because he thought of Sentry as a friend, so he didn\'t allow himself to get too angry.
ok we have red hulk,where\'s the grey hulk? he was pretty smart in comparison which lead to an odd twist of the hulk actually forming plans prior to engaging his enemy at that time..
I agree with you both, you make some great points. But to the point of Betty being his weakness is true but you can say that for 90% of the heros, Spiderman-Mary Jane, Superman-Lois Lane, just to name a few. but Hulk other weakness is banner himself.
I agree with you both, you make some great points. But to the point of Betty being his weakness is true but you can say that for 90% of the heros, Spiderman-Mary Jane, Superman-Lois Lane, just to name a few. but Hulk other weakness is banner himself.
hulk is good and strong hero but he has one weakness and i think i stand for every one i sayy this that all you need to stop him is BETTY i think you'll agree with me when i say that betty weakens him
i don't know what to say for both arguments but i'm going to agree with caeser anger, strength, and power has its ups yes but having all that rage can make him weak just like in the first hulk movie with eric banner his father in the movie was absobing all of hulks power because of all that rage so i would say hulk is the most power yes but he'e all so very vulnerable
Very nice points and I respect your arguments. I'm not the kind of person who's going to make this into a war of personal opinions. Hulk is very much indeed the strongest one there is. He's undeniably powerful, I'll agree with you there. The only thing I'm saying is that even limitless strength and rage can't win a fight EVERY single time.
Hey caesar, did you ever check out the comics from 15 years ago when they had DC vs Marvel, Hulk almost destroyed Superman when it comes to Marvel Hulk is the most powerful hero and he has proven that by destorying everyone. Yeah, there may have been a fluke where Thor won once but ever other time Hulk as destroyed Thor. Hulk vs Sentry went to a draw after they almost destroyed New York city. Hulk power and strength is never ending, his weakness is Bruce Banner. All the guys you mentioned from DC or the ones from Marvel could not beat the hulk, in my opinion. Also the hulk gets more powerful after every major battle, similar to a Saiyan from Dragon Ball Z and GT.
Hey caesar, did you ever check out the comics from 15 years ago when they had DC vs Marvel, Hulk almost destroyed Superman when it comes to Marvel Hulk is the most powerful hero and he has proven that by destorying everyone. Yeah, there may have been a fluke where Thor won once but ever other time Hulk as destroyed Thor. Hulk vs Sentry went to a draw after they almost destroyed New York city. Hulk power and strength is never ending, his weakness is Bruce Banner. All the guys you mentioned from DC or the ones from Marvel could not beat the hulk, in my opinion. Also the hulk gets more powerful after every major battle, similar to a Saiyan from Dragon Ball Z and GT.
Wolverine is right on par with Hulk. I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Hulk vs. Wolverine, but it was VERY good. Those two add up to make such an interesting battle.
Plenty of characters can beat Hulk. Thor, for example. And with the right preparations, maybe Batman. Same goes for Black Panther. Captain Atom could destroy Hulk, and so could Captain Marvel. Green Lantern, Nova, Martian Manhunter, Silver Surfer, could easily annihilate him.
Indeed Hulk could smash Thor. If Hulk is on par with Thor (Which he is) then Iron Man stands little to no chance considering Thor can easily destroy Iron Man.
